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Hello and welcome to the Kim Iverson Show. Thank you so much for joining us.
do have a great show for you tonight.
The Rothschilds. This is a shadowy family, banking family with a lot of
Their name has been dropped a lot lately. Now, you've probably heard their
many times in conspiracy theory circles, but now those conspiracy theorists seem
to be proven right once again.
as the Rothschild's name continues to be brought up from Lex Wexner's deposition
about Epstein to Bill Clinton's deposition about Epstein to Epstein's
himself saying he worked for the Rothschilds or represented the
today, Representative James Comer revealing that Jeffrey Epstein's
has identified five clients who paid money directly to Epstein, and guess who
was top of the list?
That's right, the Rothschilds. So we're going to get into who is this family
and, more importantly, how they might have shaped Israel as a nation and also
the current conflict we're in, the war with Iran. Are they behind it? We're
going to talk about that. Also, X has been handing over our private data to
Israelis.
We have Alan McLeod joining us from Mint Press News. That and more is coming up
here on The Kim Iverson Show.
Well, users on X who are otherwise anonymous say that Google Trends is
their real names are being searched by people in Israel. And this brings up a
lot of concerns about safety and security and actually the whole
you use with X in order to verify that you're a real human being so that you
could get the checkmark and maybe even receive payments from X, all of that.
might actually be compromised.
Joining us now is Alan McLeod. He's a journalist with Mint Press News.
Recently wrote a piece about this. X users find their real names are being
Googled in Israel after using X verification software.
Alan, welcome to the show.
Thank you so much for being here.
It's a pleasure to be back with you.
Okay, so what is the issue?
So we use a verification software.
I guess that's not directly X.
I kind of assumed when we were doing verification for various different
media that the social media platforms had their own mechanism, their own
software for verifying us, but apparently that's not true.
No, that's not the case, Kim. With X, or Twitter, if you want to call it that,
they've actually outsourced this to an Israeli company called Authentics.
Now, Authentics was started in the early 2000s to provide things like airport
security, etc.
But perhaps the most important thing for X users to know is that it was actually
started, it was founded, and it continues to be staffed by former spies
Israeli spying group Unit 8200.
And Unit 8200 has been behind some of the most high -profile and infamous
warfare and terror attacks of the past few years, including the Lebanese Pager
bombing that we saw not so long ago. They were behind the Pegasus software,
which infiltrated the phones and devices of tens of thousands of people, from
journalists to activists to members of royal families, even heads of state like
Emmanuel Macron of France or Imran Khan of Pakistan.
And we know that this was being driven by the Israeli government who had to
off on every sale of Pegasus. And Pegasus was even used to go after
like Jamal Khashoggi, who was killed by Saudi forces in Turkey.
So this is a group that has some seriously sketchy background. And we
really be wondering what's going on here. A lot of ex -users linked that.
They were being searched in Israel to the fact that they had given their real
names, their data, pictures of their passport and other ID, facial
scans to authentics. And they're wondering whether the government of
some sort of national security state entity in Israel has been subpoenaing
Twitter or X.
to find out the real identities of these people. And that's not such a crazy
claim, because actually the Department of Homeland Security already does this
with Meta, with Instagram, Facebook, with Google, with Discord, and they're
already looking to find out the real names of anonymous activists who are
criticizing ICE online.
And we know from New York Times reporting that some of these big
already acquiesced to the Department of Homeland Security's advances.
So the idea that the Israeli government could be doing the same thing is not so
outlandish.
Yeah, I didn't think that it maybe would be even the government that's
subpoenaing. And we would never know. So if the Israeli government or really any
government in the world, maybe even our own government, if they wanted to find
out who was really behind a handle and they subpoenaed X, we would never be
noticed. So the person who owns that handle would never be notified.
Yes, correct.
And of course, they might not need even to go to X. They can just go to this
shady Israeli company who claims that they delete all the data that they take
from us within 72 hours.
As I said, this is a company that was founded and has continued to be led and
staffed by, quote -unquote, X Israeli spies from Unit 8200, which is the group
that has been...
most responsible for the AI -generated genocide that has gone on in Gaza, using
AI -generated pill lists, using big data that Israel has picked up on
Palestinians. So the idea that they would go so far as to break terms of
to find out critics of Israel when they're doing 100 times worse to
Palestinians, as I said, is not that outlandish.
Yeah, it really isn't. And it really, I think it raises some questions on whose
laws does X have to adhere to?
Right. And I think that they have to adhere to every the laws of every
they operate in. But I'm not sure.
Is it where there is it based only on where they're physically based or is it,
you know, like if they have an office in Israel, then they have to adhere to
some Israeli laws. And those Israeli laws might say, hey, we're allowed to
know, we don't have this particular freedom. And so, you know, freedom of
speech. And so we're allowed to crack down on these critics. And so you have
give over their information because that's the laws of our country.
I don't know if if these social media companies have to adhere to the laws of
whichever country where they're headquartered, where they have offices
where they operate.
But that is something that is I mean, that that really that changes the
I mean, if if Israel can, you know, here in the United States, we have freedom
of speech, supposedly.
So, supposedly, you're allowed to criticize the government and they're not
supposed to come after you and subpoena who you are and try to unmask you simply
because you criticized.
But I guess another country could do that. I mean, but here we are, we're
sitting safe in the United States thinking, well, I'm an American, I'm
protected, I'm allowed to do that stuff here.
But I guess maybe not.
The other countries and those governments could go after us.
There is a massive...
Oh, sure. I mean, there is a massive silent war going on for our eyeballs.
Social media platforms are vastly more powerful than any media that has existed
before it. You know, something like Facebook has three billion monthly users
all of them get some amount of their news from Facebook. And you can say the
same for Instagram, TikTok, etc.
And there's been such a palaver, a pandemonium in the United States over
fact that TikTok is not owned by an American company, but a Chinese company.
that was seen as a national security threat. We have to remember that these
companies like X, like Instagram, WhatsApp.
Signal, Facebook, etc, etc.
We like to think of these things as transnational companies that exist just
cyberspace. But they're also brick and mortar facilities, and most of them have
their headquarters in Texas or California, which means they are subject
American laws.
And when you look at who is actually staffing these companies, very often
people who used to be in the State Department.
or in the FBI, or even the CIA in a lot of cases. They're calling shots on big
social media platforms.
And we've already seen that governments try to control the flow of information
in their countries and around the world. That's been standard practice ever
since the nation state was born.
And we've also seen that Elon Musk has...
being willing to acquiesce to some highly authoritarian states when asked
provide data.
He's worked with the Turkish government, he's worked with the Indian government,
the Saudi government, etc.
He seems not to care too much about freedom of speech when it comes to
countries that he perhaps is not super familiar with, that doesn't care too
about. So again, the idea that the Israeli government, which is a
Elon Musk has openly supported, he met with Netanyahu, he's taken public trips
with the Prime Minister of Israel, for Christ's sake. So the idea that the
Israeli government could lean on X and get some sort of...
There's some sort of benefits from them. Again, it seems entirely plausible.
And the main feedback I've got from my article actually has been dozens and
dozens of people contacting me or commenting underneath posts saying, I've
looked into this. This is happening to me too. What on earth is going on here?
So do we think that it's, do we think that the people who are being unmasked,
we think that it's then maybe the Israeli government who's searching them,
you think that it's maybe people just, their names are leaking somewhere and
just random citizens in Israel are looking them up? Like, who would be the
people doing the searching, I guess, in Israel?
You know, it's very hard to tell, and we could speculate all we want, but I will
say that...
The Israeli government is almost unique in the world in really caring what
global public opinion thinks of it, particularly Western public opinion,
Israel's legitimacy really rests upon its backing from Western Europe and
particularly from the United States.
Without that sort of economic, political and military backing from the world's
biggest superpower, Israel in its current form couldn't exist and
couldn't expand like it wants to.
So Israel is particularly keen to control the narrative and control public
perception of it in the West. That's why it spends gargantuan amounts of money
trying to influence public opinion in Western Europe and the United States.
We also know they have armies of thousands of people working in the
working in certain NGOs or government -based groups.
or indeed in national security state apparatus, whose main job is to try to
influence the conversation online.
They have huge armies of bots, or not even bots, but people behind these bot
networks that put certain narratives that will attack people who are
Israel, who try to smear them.
So this is par for the course for the Israeli government. They've been doing
this for decades.
this kind of operation.
And so, as I said, you know, if we, you know, want to get even slightly
conspiratorial about this, start putting two and two together, you pretty
quickly come up with the answer for.
And that, you know, when it comes to Israel, I think this sort of thing is
certainly not beyond their capabilities.
I just don't know how American citizens would be or anybody in the world would
be within their jurisdiction for them to be able to subpoena X and get this
information.
Or to subpoena, not X, but like you said, Authentics.
Authentics is the name of the... But I guess if Authentics is an Israeli
company... Yes.
I mean, is that... But even then, I mean... Well, that's the thing, Tim.
I mean, we don't even need to talk about legal subpoenas here. We're talking
about a company that was founded and continues to be staffed by, quote
-unquote... former spies from unit 8200 which is the most notorious uh cyber
warfare and spying organization in the world as i said it's been behind some of
the biggest uh you know uh leaks hacks of big social media companies out there
they have former unit 8200 hundreds of them uh former 8200 agents working at
companies like google like facebook like amazon and when Companies like this,
which is an outgrowth of the Israeli national security state, are actually
controlling our most sensitive data.
The idea that there might be something untoward going on here, considering what
Israel is doing across the Middle East and also online as well, I think we have
to start asking questions about that. So it's not even a legal thing. It might
be an entirely different question.
Companies like this have been set up in the first place to try to get
information and to try to control narratives in the first place.
Well, that's certainly a suspicion, right? I mean, it's like, why would Elon
Musk and X choose this Israeli company to gather all of our information for
verification?
I mean, talk about a security breach. But then, you know, from the perspective
of X, they're probably thinking, well, users are all around the world.
You know, it's not like...
The United States saying, well, TikTok can't be owned by China because that's a
security, a national security issue, only for it to be sold to Israelis,
essentially.
But, you know, X could say, well, but users are from all around the world. We
even have users in Israel.
So, you know, if we're picking any company we select is going to be foreign
a huge number of our users.
So what does that matter?
And then they select this Israeli company. But you're right. I mean, the
issue is that Israel has.
I would think China also has an interest in controlling the optics of
what people say about their countries or how their country is perceived.
Certainly, Israel is much more aggressive about it right now because of
support that they want. But China sometimes is also a bit wanting to shape
narrative around their country quite a bit. But then the United States...
propagandizes too. I mean, we're getting propaganda from everywhere.
Doesn't seem like we're safe from that.
But the Israelis wanted to control and then also not just control but punish.
And that's something we don't really see with China. You know, we're not seeing
them going after American citizens and students at universities trying to get
them expelled or harmed in some way, you know, financially or legally harmed in
some way because they criticize them. But we're certainly seeing a lot of that
with Israel.
Why do you think X would choose this company? Are there other companies that
they could have chosen, do we think?
I mean, this just makes me think none of us should use the Internet anymore.
I'm talking about a loss.
I'm starting to feel like nothing is safe and we should all just stop using
Internet. I mean, I'm getting to that point.
I mean, there were definitely other companies that they could have used. And
actually, at the time, a couple of years ago, when X announced this, there was a
kind of serious pushback from its user base saying, This is an awful decision.
This is a security issue.
I personally know people, you know, I'm in the alternative journalism world. I
know people who decided not to apply for that blue check because they did not
want to give their personal details to an Israeli company with very close ties
to the Israeli national security state.
But my gripe with this isn't that Authentics or Israeli companies are not
capable of providing verification software.
Israel is a huge tech hub globally, and the centerpiece of that is actually Unit
8200, their cyber warfare division. It's the largest unit in the IDF in total,
and it's also the most elite unit.
And rich parents spend thousands and thousands of dollars on courses.
for their children to try to get them into Unit 8200 in the first place.
Israel has mandatory national service.
The reason is because they know that two years in Unit 8200 is kind of like a
free ticket to a very lucrative life in the burgeoning tech sector. These Unit
8200 graduates...
Thousands of them go on to work for Google, Facebook, Amazon, or big Israeli
tech companies as well. So they certainly do have the capability of
the product.
The problem is that Israel is such a controversial country right now,
considering what it's doing in the Middle East and around the world. And I
say, just as a thought experiment, imagine we were using, say, a Russian
media platform.
decided to use a Russian company that was staffed by former KGB and FSB agents
to verify our most sensitive data, we could obviously see the huge
security risk there immediately.
And, in fact, the idea is so absurd that it's beyond reasonable that that would
be allowed to happen. But because it's a U .S. ally, we all just have to say,
oh, well, that's a bit strange. Oh, well, that's fine, yeah.
Yeah, if it was a Russian company, like you mentioned, the first thing that
would happen is Elon Musk would be carted into Congress immediately and
and they would be asking questions, and they'd essentially say, this is a
national security threat, and you can't use this company.
But you're right, because it's a supposed ally, which is debatable.
Then, yeah, we all just have to, I guess, hand over. And the issue, too, I
one thing that would be simple to say is, well, then I guess none of us would
just, you know.
verify our accounts we shouldn't give our personal information to any place
yeah with x i mean you can't if you have a big account you can't get money you
can't get paid um there's a lot of a lot of implications with not having the
blue check that's why they made it well you want to get this right they make it
really enticing so people want to get it and then you do hand over your personal
information um Excellent reporting on this, Alan, and just exposing this. It
definitely, like I said, gets me to a point where I think, okay, maybe we're
just way too connected online and maybe it's time to start scaling back. And I
think that people are going to start getting to that point, like the pendulum
swinging to where we're using so much AI, we're using so much social media,
then we start having these breaches and AI, you know, now AI is kind of looking
scary. I mean, AI might have been...
for targeting the girls at the school that was bombed in Iran. I mean, you
there's a lot of questions about AI right now and whether or not it's even
conscious. And I think a lot of people are starting to say, okay, maybe it's
time to go back to the old flip phone and the old, you know, like maybe it's
time to kind of like scale back and go back to some pen and paper for a little
bit on some things. And it's maybe not such a bad idea.
But the article is on...
Mint Press News.
It is, X users find their real names are being Googled in Israel after using X
verification software, Authentics.
Definitely everybody should read this and then kind of think about your future
online, I suppose.
Alan McLeod, thank you for being here. I do want to talk to you, Alan, about
this other article you wrote for Mint Press News.
We have Alan McLeod with us. He is a journalist with Mint Press News, and he
wrote the recent article, 10 Epstein Revelations You Might Have Missed.
Oh, boy.
Let's start off with Epstein plotting war with Iran, because here we are in a
war with Iran.
Many people think that Donald Trump might be compromised by these Epstein
He fought tooth and nail to ensure they weren't released after campaigning on
it. And many believe that Epstein was a...
an operative for Israel to do the nation's bidding. And here we are in a
with Iran.
So what gives?
Tell us about this.
It's becoming less and less of a secret that Jeffrey Epstein did have a close
relationship with the Israeli government.
One example of that is Ehud Barak, the former prime minister of Israel,
an inordinate amount of time living at Jeffrey Epstein's Manhattan mansion.
In fact, to the point where the Israeli government actually installed spy
cameras and surveillance equipment in Jeffrey Epstein's Manhattan mansion.
Epstein would talk with Barak especially constantly about politics, about
current affairs, anything really.
The two became very, very close friends.
One thing he did was, yeah, he talked about the news of the day with Barack.
And, you know, in 2013, the United States and Iran were negotiating with
International Atomic Energy Agency. And with the talks kind of stalling,
Epstein actually emailed Ehud Barak saying that hopefully someone suggests
getting authorization now for Iran.
Congress would do it. That's a direct quote from him. So he was actually
and plotting war with Iran with Ehud Barak, which, of course, has been
dream for decades now, that the United States would somehow take out their
biggest enemy in the region for them. And now it seems that the Israeli
government is getting exactly what it wants, seen, of course, as close to the
.S. government as well. So this really goes to show just how...
Close and tight -knit are the Epstein class, where everybody knew each other,
and Epstein was throwing out these sorts of ideas, hoping that something would
stick at the wall. And you can see from the emails that he was very much a hawk
when it came to Iran. He dreamed of war in the Middle East because, for one
reason, he was a massive supporter of the State of Israel.
And here we are.
And here we are.
I mean, it's just, when you connect the dots, it's one of those things where,
when you're in the thick of it, It's hard to see what's really happening. And
lot of us want to make different excuses or think, no, there must be something
else. You know, Trump can't possibly be implicated in the Epstein files.
You know, he was trying to he was against Epstein. He hated Epstein. So
no way he's implicated. But then I feel like, you know, 10 years from now, when
we have like the 20 foot view, you know, we'll look back at this and say, wow,
OK, so many dots connecting here.
And those dots.
all lead to the same one conclusion.
This is a shocking revelation that you say was in the Epstein files that we
might have missed, which was that a U .S. ambassador may have raped and
impregnated an 11 -year -old child.
Wow.
And why are we still hiding these Epstein files?
What is this about?
Essentially no play. Only a couple of corporate media outlets in the United
States have touched this, but it has been quite widely written about in
media. The documents show that an FBI informant who was talking.
to the fbi uh described his name is kenneth daryl turner he actually died
recently but in 2014 he said that the u .s ambassador to mexico a man called uh
earl wayne impregnated an 11 year old mexican child uh while she was at a u
.s consulate controlled building in ciudad juarez which is on the border
the united states the girl gave birth to this child and then that child had a
positive DNA match with Wayne. Wayne completely refutes this. He rejects this
entirely. But these allegations, I should say, was enough to actually
really quite large protests at the American University in Washington, D
where Wayne continues to teach to this day.
You know, he completely denies this, but, you know, that is something that is
the acting files. These FBI documents say that there are allegations against
this U .S. ambassador, and it seems that there has been no follow -up from this.
Nothing has come of it, and very few people have even touched this story,
except, of course, in Mexico.
Wait a minute. So the kid had a positive DNA match to this guy, to Earl Anthony
Wayne is his name.
That is what the FBI document says, Turner says. So Turner says that he
that there was a positive DNA match with Wayne. But again, that is just his
testimony. And as I said, he actually died quite recently. So we're not going
get any more information out of him, sadly.
But it seems like this would be such an easy thing to investigate.
This is one of those that would be so simple. This is no longer a he said, she
said. There's a kid. There's physical.
evidence of um sex having have happened and because there's a kid so if
they could take the dna from the kid and then say yeah it's this uh earl wayne
guy's kid and the mother is at this eight you know at whatever age the
now so you just reverse the clock there and it's like really you know easy
simple to this one seems to be in a simple case to crack and yet we've had
investigations from the United States into the Epstein files.
I mean, that's outrageous.
Yeah, journalists could look at this, but honestly, the group that could...
say yay or nay to this almost immediately is the FBI. They presumably
the documents and data out there. So they could suddenly just come out and
actually, this is not true. We looked into this. That's not the case. Or they
could say, we confirm this. But there has been absolutely zero peep from the
on this story.
And unfortunately, that is what it's like when you try to get information out
the US National Security State.
I don't know if you've ever tried to use the Freedom of Information Act to get
documents out of big government entities, but it takes years and years,
will stonewall you at every single opportunity.
So I'm not holding my breath and waiting for the FBI to come out and confirm or
deny this.
Just sickening. I mean, all the stuff that's in these files has been
and the fact that our government does nothing about it. I mean, at least other
governments are starting to go after people, and I think that they're But the
United States, we've done absolutely nothing. And it's just really, really,
truly shameful.
Let's talk about Bill Gates, another thing that you uncovered.
And then I encourage people to read this article because there's 10 things that
you might have missed from those Epstein files. It's always good to keep up with
those things. And we do have the link down below to this article. But let's
about Bill Gates, his affairs, his sexually transmitted infection that he
apparently might have had. And that was in the Epstein files.
Yes, there was actually an email that Jeffrey Epstein composed, but never
So he just saved it in his draft.
And we have the draft because the Epstein files were published.
And basically it said that his good friend, he was really annoyed at Bill
for constantly hassling him. He said, I can't believe you had sex with these
Russian, probably trafficked women. And then you were badgering me to try to get
antibiotics.
so that your wife wouldn't find out that you had an STD and that you'd given it
to her.
So Bill Gates was not only sleeping around, according to Epstein, I should
he also was giving his wife an STD and then slipping her pills
on the slide to try to hide the fact.
Now, Bill Gates initially denied all of this. He said, this is completely
untrue. This is just an email that Jeffrey sent to himself.
It's not true.
However, a couple of days later, he did actually admit to at least the affair
part with the Russian woman being completely true.
Moreover, Melinda was asked about these claims and she did not deny them and
said it was just, and I'll use the quote that she said, she said, it was
unbelievable sadness.
That was one quote she used. And she said it was an extraordinarily painful
time, end quote, in her life.
And of course, people might remember that Melinda Gates filed for divorce in
2021, citing Gates.
Bill Gates' close relationship with Jeffrey Epstein as the reason, or at
one of the reasons, that the marriage broke down. So there's certainly some
of smoke going on there.
Yeah.
Yeah. I wonder what he got out of Bill Gates. I know Bill Gates wanted
a Nobel Prize, and he was bothering Jeffrey Epstein about that, like, help
out, get me a Nobel Prize, right? But I wonder what Epstein was getting from
Bill.
That's what I'm curious about. I'm wondering what Epstein got from all of
people. I mean, that's the big question that I think all of us want out of these
Epstein files is not just the exposure that, okay, these people are a bunch of
perverts that are in pedophiles and doing all these terrible things. We want
know what did they get, what did Epstein get from them that may be compromising
our national security, may be compromising our data, our information.
I mean, I don't know. Bill Gates is not a world leader. Bill Gates is not a
politician. He can't influence Israel policy, not directly anyway. Maybe
indirectly he can.
So what was it that Epstein was getting from Bill Gates? I think that's a big
question we should all be asking. I don't know if you have a hunch or a
on that. I don't, but maybe you do.
Yeah, I mean, listen.
Epstein loved to collect the rich and famous people, maybe because it made him
feel safer, or maybe it was because he was, you know, some sort of influence op
or some sort of national security op, and he was trying to collect dirt and
on as many rich and powerful people as possible. Because even though Gates is
not a politician, he is more powerful than most.
heads of state he has enormous power over big institutions like the world
organization like the shape of education and health policy all around the world
because he donates gigantic amounts of money to uh to all sorts of bodies
via the bill and melinda gates uh however when you accept money from a
billionaire there are always a multitude of strings attached to that money And
part of it is that Gates really wanted to reshape public health and education
policy all around the world.
In education, he loved charter schools, which is basically privatising schools.
He loved to get involved in public health as well. You know, he was
essentially privatising one of the COVID vaccines, the Oxford University
vaccine. You might remember that Oxford University, very early on in the
pandemic, came out and said they had...
created a safe vaccine that cost them almost nothing to make and that they
going to make it free to use for everyone around the world.
And then Gates got on the phone to Oxford University and said, you better
this. And they reversed their decision and they privatized it. And immediately
they ran into problems where they had huge supply issues and tens of millions
people didn't get the vaccine because of that. And the reason Gates wanted to do
that. I think he absolutely loves the idea of privatizing intellectual
because, of course, Gates made his billions that way, cornering the market
in software and forcing people to pay for decades for his crappy products
because they've just become the leader and they've become basically a monopoly.
how Gates has got his money ever since the 1980s. So, of course, we want to see
that in public health and education as well. So, yeah, Gates is a very powerful
person. And so I'm not surprised that, you know, somebody who may or may not
have been an intelligence op would want to have dirt on him so they could
influence his decisions as well.
Yeah. And again, that's the question we all have. What did Epstein get?
specifically, you know, out of Bill Gates? What did he get out of Bill
What did he get out of any of these people that were connected in his world?
That's the big question that we should all ask.
Alan McLeod, thank you so much for being here. Really appreciate your insight.
Great work at Mint Press News.
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It's 67 words long, it's 100 years old, and it changed the course of history for
the Middle East and the Jewish people.
The Balfour Declaration, the expression of the British government's support for
a Jewish home in Palestine, was sent by British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour
to the Second Lord Rothschild.
I'm here in Buckinghamshire at Waddesdon Manor to speak with the Fourth Lord
Rothschild. about the Balfour Declaration, what it means for Britain,
Jewish people, and the Rothschild family.
The Foreign Office, November 2nd, 1917.
Dear Lord Rothschild, I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf
Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish
aspirations, which has been submitted to... and approved by the cabinet.
So it's possibly the most famous letter in modern Jewish history, and it begins
with three words.
Dear Lord Rothschild, why was it that this letter was sent by the Foreign
Secretary to your great -uncle Walter?
It's an interesting question, because he was brilliant in ornithology.
although he became interested in Zionism. I think the reason was this,
it was primarily a movement from Eastern Europe,
but they didn't clarify who was in charge of that movement.
And in addition, it was, after all, in Great Britain. So they felt that the
Rothschild family...
should be the one to whom it was addressed.
And Walter was Lord Rothschild, and he was a Zionist.
And those really are the background reasons.
So Walter received the Balfour Declaration, and I have a copy here.
And I wonder if I could possibly ask you to read it for us.
Yes, indeed.
I'm going to put on my spectacles to make sure I read it accurately.
His Majesty's Government,
deal with favour the establishment of Palestine as a national home for the
Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement
of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing will be done
prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non -Jewish communities in
Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other
country.
I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the
Zionist Federation.
Yours, Arthur Balfour.
And here it is, the Balfour Declaration.
What do you feel when you see it here?
I genuinely feel it's one of the most extraordinary moments in the history of
the Jewish people. If you think it took 3 ,000 years to get to this.
And then you say, how did this miracle happen?
It was the most incredible piece of opportunism. I mean, if you think, you
an impoverished would -be scientist, Chaim Weizmann, who somehow gets to
England, meets a few people, including members of my family, seduces them. He
has such great charm and conviction.
He gets to Balfour, and he unbelievably persuades
Balfour. and Lloyd George, the Prime Minister, and most of the ministers,
this idea of the National Home for Jews should be allowed to
take place.
I mean, it's so, so unlikely.
And then he starts to fight a difficult battle with the British Cabinet, and
this letter goes through five drafts, as you know.
and in the end it comes out as a rather compromising letter. I mean, the
essential point is there for the Jewish community to fasten on to.
You have the first bit, which promises a national home rather than the national
home, and then you have the bit that nothing that's to be done should in any
harm the Arab community.
But you come back to the big point, which is that this is perhaps the
event in Jewish life for thousands of years.
And it's a miracle that it took place.
I think it was his experience at an industrial level, like looking for a
big company like Bear Stearns, and then he had done personal work.
For the Rothschild family in France.
Personal wealth management, essentially?
I don't know.
We've seen some reports that he would present himself as a bounty hunter, that
he would find people's missing money. Do you recall him saying anything like
that? No.
Well, specifically, I talked to Elie de Rothschild, and I mentioned that
earlier.
So he represented their whole families. There had been a whole bunch of people.
Most of them I never would have met, but I knew L .A.
We've been hearing a lot about the Rothschilds lately, the shadowy banking
family many suspect run the world. Well, in looking deeper into their
connections, influence, and their world, it sort of looks like it. And
interestingly, Jeffrey Epstein seemed to be a central figure in their world.
A few weeks ago, Les Wexner said Jeffrey Epstein worked for the Rothschilds.
This was before his lawyer told him to shut his mouth or he'd kill him.
Then Bill Clinton said he was connected to Ghislaine through the Rothschilds.
And today, Representative James Comer came out and said, yes, the Rothschilds
were paying Epstein.
First of all, Mr. Khan's answering every question thus far. He's completed two
full hours of depositions. I would say we are possibly at the halfway point. It
could could last more than four hours. But he confirmed
there were five.
clients that paid money to Epstein, and that was Les Wexner, Glenn
Newben, Stephen Sanofsky, the Rothschilds, and Leon Black.
We've already deposed Wexner. We're going to be deposing Leon Black very
Yeah, what about deposing the Rothschilds? I doubt we're going to be
anytime soon.
So now you might have seen this from the Epstein files. This is an email sent by
Jeffrey Epstein to Peter Thiel in 2016.
And in that email, Epstein writes, quote, as you probably know, I represent
Rothschilds. I was hoping to find a way for the bank that manages $160 billion
to get involved in tech. It has been the best client list in the world and
ancient products. It can wait. Good luck in China.
Okay, so...
He's not saying, I know some Rothschilds. He's saying, I represent
Rothschilds. And he talks about the bank that manages $160 billion with the best
client list in the world.
Now, fast forward to 2018. The head of Swiss Rothschild Bank is Ariane de
Rothschild. She's emailing back and forth with Jeffrey Epstein about
homeless shelter.
He says, quote, I thought you'd find...
In amusing that in a Harvard class on Hitler, they told the story of when he
so poor he lived in a shelter for homeless and destitute that had been
by the three wealthy families, the Gutmans, the Ecksteins, and the
It turns out to be accurate.
Now, Ariane, she isn't amused. She fires back and says, you know, it doesn't
matter whether the story is about generosity or not.
You know, that it's still a conspiracy theory and it's pathetic.
But then Epstein doubles down and says, first, it turns out to be 100 % true.
Hitler was selling his clothes and artwork and living in a shelter funded
Jews. Epstein, Rothschild, and Gutman. No conspiracy.
The Epsteins were the Vienna bankers, bought their bank on the ring, hence
Palais Epstein.
which is kind of interesting.
So in one email you have Hitler, a Jewish -funded shelter, the Epstein
Rothschild name, and a Rothschild banker trying to bat the whole thing away as
pathetic. Now, Epstein and Ariane first met in 2013, introduced by Oslo Accords
diplomat Tarji Rod Larson. And within months, Epstein is emailing former
Prime Minister Ehud Barak to get him in front of her.
One of the DOJ -released emails shows Epstein setting up a breakfast between
Barack and Iran de Rothschild. Now, Epstein is playing social engineer
Rothschild banker and an ex -prime minister.
And right around that time, another email appears, this one from Epstein to
Barack, talking about Iran.
And in that email, Epstein writes, quote, Hopefully someone suggests
authorization now for Iran.
Authorization? He's not talking about a charity grant.
He's talking about war.
So put those two together. Epstein arranged private breakfast between a
Rothschild Bank CEO and an Israeli ex -prime minister, and Epstein told that
same ex -prime minister, hopefully someone suggests getting authorization
war with Iran.
Okay. Now, by 2013.
The U .S. Justice Department was cracking down on Swiss banks for helping
Americans hide money.
Ariane's bank, Edmund Rothschild, is in trouble, and she turns to Epstein.
Emails reported from the DOJ files show Ariane confirming the final settlement
figure with Epstein.
$45 million?
And Epstein answers with the math, including $10 million for lawyer's fees
$25 million for me. I think you'll find a total below $80 million is quite a
bargain. And a few days later, the U .S. announces that Edmund de Rothschild
will pay a $45 million fine.
Exactly what they just discussed.
How's that?
So in a contract dated October 5th of 2015, it shows Epstein Southern Trust
Company, based in the Virgin Islands, entering into an agreement with the
Rothschilds Group.
Angelo summarizes it this way. A document dated October 5th, 2015
Epstein, through his Southern Trust Company, entered into an agreement with
Rothschilds Group valued at $25 million.
The contract covered risk analysis and algorithm -related services with Epstein
listed as president of Southern Trust.
And according to reporting based on those same emails, after that deal,
started giving Ariane advice on how to deal with her own family.
One email has him telling her, I think you should prepare a custodian motion
against Benjamin, giving him the choice between you filing the motion or him
voluntarily resigning. He has lost control and is a danger to both you and
family. So that's Jeffrey Epstein, the Rothschild representative, telling a
Rothschild which Rothschild should be pushed out of the bank.
So if you're making this up in a thriller, it would feel like pretty on
nose, right?
Now, the emails show that Epstein wasn't just brokering fines.
He was.
trying to use Arianne's bank to fund Ehud Barak's private cyber weapons
One report quotes Epstein relaying Arianne's condition, saying, Arianne de
Rossell sent this to me. If Ehud wants to make serious money, he'll have to
build a relationship with me.
Epstein then tells Barak he needs to give her time, attention, stable,
reoccurring, predictable, where, what, when, is what he says.
So former Israeli Prime Minister Rothschild banker and Jeffrey Epstein in
middle choreographing the relationship and talking about serious money and war
with Iran in the same slice of time. So this is a small, tight network in a
recent deposition.
Bill Clinton was asked why he was friendly with Ghislaine Maxwell, and he
answered that he had mutual friends.
Lynn and Evelyn de Rothschild watched this.
During Ms. Maxwell's interview, she stated that President Clinton was her
friend, not Epstein's friend.
Is that accurate?
I would say that it was accurate to say that I felt closer to her than him.
And for the record, why was that?
Because I had seen her more and because she was very good friends with Evelyn
Rothschild and his wife Lynn, whom I knew and was in regular touch with.
So back in 1995, before she married into the family, Lynn Forrester wrote
directly to President Clinton. The Clinton archives summarized it this way.
said she had used her 15 seconds of access to discuss Jeffrey Epstein and
currency stabilization.
That's not us editorializing. That's how mainstream write -ups describe the
letter.
In the mid -90s, you've got a future Lady de Rothschild telling a sitting U
president she spent her 15 seconds of access on Jeffrey Epstein and currency
stabilization. Then years later, she marries into the British Rothschild
and Bill Clinton hosts the wedding reception at the White House.
Epstein, meanwhile, visited that same White House at least 17 times in the
Again, Epstein, a Rothschild, a U .S. president, and the words currency
stabilization in one sentence.
Now, the Rothschild story starts in the Frankfurt ghetto with Mayor Amschel
Rothschild trading rare coins and doing favors for princes.
He becomes the banker for Prince Willem of Hesse, whose wealth includes cash
from leasing Hessian soldiers to the British in the American Revolutionary
Encyclopedia -style histories openly say Mayer and his sons eventually became
bankers, to whom the French Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars of
became a business opportunity.
So that's not fringe. That's how the Rothschild's archive itself describes
rise of the family, making money off of war.
Now, Mayer sends his five sons out like an early modern franchising operation.
He sends Nathan to London, James to Paris, Solomon to Vienna, Carl to
Amschel stays in Frankfurt.
The five arrows on their logo there commemorate that network.
And Nathan uses fast couriers and better intel to front run the bond market
after Waterloo. The exact numbers are debated, but he later calls it the best
business I ever did.
He later arranges a loan big enough to stabilize the Bank of England in a
crisis, and from there the family funds or underwrites a secret loan so the
British can grab a 44 % stake in the Suez Canal Company, major help to the
Vatican's struggling finances, state -building loans to Greece, Brazil, and
others.
So you don't have to believe they secretly own every central bank to see
obvious. For about a century, if a Western empire needed money for war,
or colonies, the Rothschilds were on the short list of the people you called.
So for over 80 years, Rothschild's London House chaired the London Gold
the twice -daily call where a small group of bullion banks agreed on a
gold price. And that direct role ended in 2004.
when N .M. Rothschild's son walked away from the bullion business and sold its
seats to Barclays.
Now move into the 21st century, and they show up in other sensitive places.
Rothschild and company has advised governments on sovereign debt crises,
including Ukraine's restructuring after Russia's invasion.
Nathaniel Rothschild co -founded Janelle Energy, which drills in Iraqi
Kurdistan, a territory that's literally the outcome of U .S. war and occupation.
Then there's Genie Energy, which holds oil rights in the Israeli -occupied
Heights. Genie's own disclosures list the members of its strategic board as...
Dick Cheney, Rupert Murdoch, James Woolsey, Larry Summers, Michael
Jacob Rothschild, and Mary Landrieu. So that's a former U .S. vice president, a
media magnate, an ex -CIA director, a former U .S. Treasury secretary, a Wall
Street billionaire, a former U .S. senator, and a Rothschild, all advising
company drilling in land Israel stole from Syria in 1967.
So if you wanted to see how war...
Media, intelligence apparatus, finance, and occupied resources intersect. That
one board list is a pretty good start.
Now, Baron Edmund de Rothschild funded some of the first Jewish agricultural
colonies in Palestine, including Rishon LeZion, now one of Israel's largest
cities. He used entities like the Palestine Jewish Colonization
buy land and move settlers in. Theodor Herzl's pamphlet, The Jewish State, was
originally conceived as a speech for the Rothschilds and at one point carried
the working title Address to the Rothschilds. In other words, the
theorist of Zionism literally wrote his pitch with the Rothschilds in mind.
Then in 1917, British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour issued the Balfour
Declaration, supporting a national home for the Jewish people in Palestine.
He addresses it not to a foreign minister, but to Lord Rothschild.
Specifically, Lionel Walter Rothschild, a key figure in British Zionist circles.
The Rothschild family archives itself titles page Walter Rothschild and the
Balfour Declaration.
So you've got one branch buying land and funding settlements and another branch
receiving the letter that becomes the political foundation for Israel as a
state. Jacob Rothschild later says he's been traveling to Israel every year
since the 1960s and talks openly about the family's role in the country's
development.
possibly the most famous letter in modern Jewish history, and it begins
three words.
Dear Lord Rothschild, why was it that this letter was sent by the Foreign
Secretary to your great -uncle Walter?
It's an interesting question because he was very interested in ornithology,
although he became interested in Zionism. I think the reason was this,
that...
It was primarily a movement from Eastern Europe, but they
didn't clarify who was in charge of that movement.
And in addition, it was, after all, in Great Britain. So they felt that the
Rothschild family should be the one to whom it was addressed.
And Walter was Lord Rothschild, and he was a Zionist.
And those really are the background reasons.
Okay, so the fingerprints are everywhere. At least several towns,
and institutions in Israel bear the Rothschild name. So there you go.
They're pretty much behind the entire creation of the State of Israel. In
a group of U .S. policy intellectuals wrote a memo for Benjamin Netanyahu
A Clean Break, A New Strategy for Securing the Realm. And it advocates
down regional rivals, starting with Iraq and extending to Syria and beyond.
And a few years later, retired General Wesley Clark says he saw a Pentagon memo
after 9 -11.
About 10 days after 9 -11, I went through the Pentagon and...
I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs
to say hello to some of the people on the joint staff who used to work for me.
And one of the generals called me in. He said, sir, you've got to come in and
talk to me a second. I said, well, you're too busy. He said, no, no.
He says, we've made the decision we're going to war with Iraq.
This was on or about the 20th of September.
I said, we're going to war with Iraq? Why?
He said, I don't know.
He said, I guess they don't know what else to do.
So I said, well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al
He said, no, no. He says, there's nothing new that way. They just made the
decision to go to war with Iraq.
He said, I guess it's like we don't know what to do about terrorists, but we've
got a good military and we can take down governments.
And he said, I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has
look like a nail.
So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing
Afghanistan. I said, are we still going to war with Iraq? And he said, oh, it's
worse than that.
He said, he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper, and he
said, I just got this down from upstairs, meaning the Secretary of
office today. And he said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to
out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria,
Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off.
I said, is it classified?
He said, yes, sir.
I said,
well, don't show it to me.
And I saw him a year or so ago, and I said, you remember that? He said, sir, I
didn't show you that memo. I didn't show it to you.
I'm sorry, what did you say his name was?
I'm not going to give you his name. So go through the countries again.
Well, starting with Iraq, then Syria and Lebanon, then Libya, then Somalia and
Sudan, and then back to Iran.
Okay. So the timeline slipped, but the countries line up with the wars and
covert operations we actually watched unfold.
Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria. Now we're watching it unfold in Lebanon and
in Iran.
And in the background of the bombs and sanctions, another pattern. Central
reorganized. oil contracts written, sovereign debt restructured with firms
Rothschild and Company, sometimes standing by to advise.
So when you see Jeffrey Epstein writing to Ehud Barak, hopefully someone
suggests getting authorization now for Iran, while representing a Rothschild
bank and coaching an ex -prime minister on how to tap Rothschild money for a
cyber weapons venture, it starts to feel less like a random email and more like
a window into how this world actually works.
On February 28th of 2026, the same day the U .S. and Israel escalate into full
-scale war with Iran, Nathaniel Rothschild posts this on X.
History is written by the winners. Iran Revolution 2026.
Now look at that timing. Look at that hashtag.
The heir to one of the most powerful banking dynasties on Earth tags Iran
Revolution 2026 and reminds everyone that history is written by the winners.
The winners have certainly been the Rothschilds financially throughout
now. And maybe that's just bravado, maybe it's just commentary, or maybe
exactly what it sounds like. A man whose family helped invent modern war finance
and funded Israel into existence, he's now watching another chapter of that
story unfold in real time.
So here's the question. When a convicted sex offender can email Rothschild, a
former prime minister of Israel, a future Rothschild, a U .S. president's
lawyer, and say things like, I represent the Rothschilds, and hopefully someone
suggests getting authorization now for Iran, whose world are we actually living
in? Is this just a coincidence of rich people knowing rich people? Or are we
getting a rare, unfiltered glimpse into the true deep state, a shadowy banking
network that's been making a killing off killing and writing the story since the
days of Hessian mercenaries and Napoleon?
All right, guys, that is it for tonight's show. Thank you so much for
us. We'll be back tomorrow with another great show, 2 p .m. Pacific, 5 p .m.
Eastern. See you guys then. Bye -bye.
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