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Ray Nagin: We come to you with facts. 8 00:04:03,770 --> 00:04:08,200 We come to you With eyewitness accounts. 9 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,230 We come to you Because we were there Before the storm hit, 10 00:04:12,230 --> 00:04:14,670 We were there When the storm hit, 11 00:04:14,670 --> 00:04:17,800 We were there after the storm, And we're still there. 12 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,130 Are your teams, Is fema ready for this? 13 00:04:20,130 --> 00:04:23,800 Because you guys have been Pretty taxed lately, with all The hurricanes of last year, 14 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,900 - and this year's Busy hurricane season. - well, we have been taxed. 15 00:04:26,900 --> 00:04:29,870 Right now we're still Doing recovery operations In florida, 16 00:04:29,870 --> 00:04:32,330 And I've got a long-term Recovery office down there. 17 00:04:32,330 --> 00:04:34,600 And some people have been Trying to second-guess 18 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,770 How fema responded And recovered in florida. 19 00:04:36,770 --> 00:04:38,400 Let me say To all those critics: 20 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,270 We are ready, We're going to respond 21 00:04:40,270 --> 00:04:44,100 And we're going to do exactly What we did in florida and Alabama and the other places. 22 00:04:44,100 --> 00:04:46,630 We're going to do whatever It takes to help victims. 23 00:04:46,630 --> 00:04:49,000 That's why we've already Declared an emergency. 24 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,830 President bush had no Reservations about doing that. 25 00:04:51,830 --> 00:04:54,000 We're going to lean forward As far as possible 26 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,070 And do everything we can To help those folks 27 00:04:56,070 --> 00:04:58,130 In Louisiana or alabama Or mississippi. 28 00:04:58,130 --> 00:05:00,730 Brendan loy: New Orleans in peril, 29 00:05:00,730 --> 00:05:03,630 Friday, August 26, 2005, 1:57 P.M. 30 00:05:17,330 --> 00:05:19,800 There were forecasters Out there-- 31 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,370 There were legitimate Meteorologists who were Saying this is a threat. 32 00:05:23,370 --> 00:05:25,700 And the national hurricane Center was saying 33 00:05:25,700 --> 00:05:28,700 There's a wide range Of area that could be Hit by this hurricane, 34 00:05:28,700 --> 00:05:32,000 Ranging from The florida panhandle All the way over to Louisiana. 35 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,570 So New Orleans was Within their strike target. 36 00:05:34,570 --> 00:05:38,200 I first heard about Hurricane Katrina-- I want to say, 37 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,500 Because it was on the 29th-- Maybe the 26th-- 38 00:05:41,500 --> 00:05:44,000 Kind of like word That it was out there, 39 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,800 And what it was building to, The strength it was Building to. 40 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,400 Calvin mackie: Anytime a hurricane gets Into the gulf, 41 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,230 We become very aware Here in New Orleans. 42 00:05:52,230 --> 00:05:54,300 Friday morning I was in detroit, 43 00:05:54,300 --> 00:05:56,770 And Saturday morning When I saw that the hurricane 44 00:05:56,770 --> 00:05:58,630 Had reached category five, 45 00:05:58,630 --> 00:06:00,870 I began to call My family members 46 00:06:00,870 --> 00:06:03,400 And pretty much implored them To leave out of town. 47 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,470 I had flown in for the funeral Of clarence barney, 48 00:06:07,470 --> 00:06:10,600 Who had run the urban league Of greater New Orleans. 49 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,600 About 2/3rds Through the funeral, 50 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,930 My communications director Michele moore, 51 00:06:17,930 --> 00:06:19,800 Who was with me, 52 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,270 Slipped me a note up At the front of the church, 53 00:06:23,270 --> 00:06:26,370 And the note said, "We must leave. 54 00:06:26,370 --> 00:06:28,700 The storm is A category five now." 55 00:06:28,700 --> 00:06:31,030 Will chittenden: I was living in metairie. 56 00:06:31,030 --> 00:06:34,400 I was living there With my ex-fiancee, 57 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,770 Her three kids, And two grandchildren. 58 00:06:36,770 --> 00:06:39,870 Saturday, Before the hurricane, 59 00:06:39,870 --> 00:06:42,970 That morning at 11:00 a.M., 60 00:06:42,970 --> 00:06:46,530 I sent her, two cars, All the kids, the grandkids 61 00:06:46,530 --> 00:06:50,630 And two friends that had Come down from illinois, 62 00:06:50,630 --> 00:06:53,530 And sent them away To get to a safe spot. 63 00:06:53,530 --> 00:06:56,670 I came down here That Saturday for a vacation 64 00:06:56,670 --> 00:06:58,770 Before I was going To work in baltimore, 65 00:06:58,770 --> 00:07:01,900 And arrived, and at the rport Everyone was just trying To get out. 66 00:07:01,900 --> 00:07:05,530 There was this huge exodus Trying to happen. And I'm like, "What's going on?" 67 00:07:05,530 --> 00:07:08,070 They said, "Oh, you didn't Hear about the hurricane?" 68 00:07:08,070 --> 00:07:11,600 And I actually hadn't Been in touch with the news Or weather or whatever. 69 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,330 So I came to my parents' house And we just said, "Look, Let's just wait." 70 00:07:15,330 --> 00:07:17,870 I think it was probably About Saturday about noon, 71 00:07:17,870 --> 00:07:21,170 They really started saying that It was going to come and hit us. 72 00:07:21,170 --> 00:07:23,900 And my house was Kind of unprepared. 73 00:07:23,900 --> 00:07:26,970 I had stuff in the yard, Windows needed to be boarded up, 74 00:07:26,970 --> 00:07:29,270 All of that. So I just started going to it. 75 00:07:29,270 --> 00:07:32,770 I was here during Hurricane Katrina 76 00:07:32,770 --> 00:07:36,830 Because my Mother-in-law decided-- As many new orleanians did-- 77 00:07:36,830 --> 00:07:39,730 That they could weather The storm. 78 00:07:39,730 --> 00:07:42,970 We haven't had a major Hurricane since 1965. 79 00:07:42,970 --> 00:07:46,070 I remember I was five years old. It was called hurricane betsy. 80 00:07:46,070 --> 00:07:49,770 I remember driving And the water coming up Behind us and surviving that. 81 00:07:49,770 --> 00:07:52,170 So I have always been Afraid of hurricanes. 82 00:07:52,170 --> 00:07:54,170 Herbert freeman, jr.: My mother had been Bedridden 83 00:07:54,170 --> 00:07:55,870 For a while, So she was in good spirits. 84 00:07:55,870 --> 00:07:58,200 I told her, I said, "There's a hurricane coming." 85 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,300 She said, "Oh yeah, Well, we survived betsy. You remember that?" 86 00:08:01,300 --> 00:08:05,000 I said, "Yeah, I remember that. But I'm going to board up The windows and things. 87 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,170 We're just going to try To survive it out." 88 00:08:07,170 --> 00:08:10,470 You know, on the 26th, As I recall, 89 00:08:10,470 --> 00:08:13,270 The governor and I Had talked 90 00:08:13,270 --> 00:08:16,400 A little bit about this Particular situation, 91 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,030 And we were Already in the mode Of evacuating people. 92 00:08:20,030 --> 00:08:23,570 I signed a declaration Of emergency for the state Of Louisiana, 93 00:08:23,570 --> 00:08:26,970 To begin activating All of the assets 94 00:08:26,970 --> 00:08:29,400 That could be Brought to bear, 95 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,370 So that we could petition 96 00:08:31,370 --> 00:08:33,600 The federal government To help us 97 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,230 To also pay for the big things That needed to happen. 98 00:08:37,230 --> 00:08:39,670 Reporter: Katrina is now In the Gulf of Mexico 99 00:08:39,670 --> 00:08:41,600 And growing stronger Rapidly, 100 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,900 After leaving At least six people dead In south florida. 101 00:08:44,900 --> 00:08:46,900 Many heavily-populated Areas there 102 00:08:46,900 --> 00:08:49,370 Are in deep water And without power. 103 00:08:49,370 --> 00:08:51,430 New computer information Just coming in 104 00:08:51,430 --> 00:08:53,570 Tells us that now There's a possibility 105 00:08:53,570 --> 00:08:55,730 Of this storm even Shifting further west, 106 00:08:55,730 --> 00:08:58,800 Perhaps even Involving the New Orleans Metropolitan area. 107 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,730 Of course, new orlea is One of the most vulnerable Hurricane places, 108 00:09:01,730 --> 00:09:04,130 If not the most vulnerable In the country. 109 00:09:04,130 --> 00:09:06,000 I was having dinner With my family, 110 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,930 Getting ready to evacuate them The next morning. 111 00:09:08,930 --> 00:09:11,170 Got a call From max mayfield. 112 00:09:11,170 --> 00:09:14,200 He said, "Mr. Mayor, I am calling you. 113 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,500 I just finished talking To the governor. 114 00:09:16,500 --> 00:09:19,330 This is one Of the worst storms 115 00:09:19,330 --> 00:09:21,800 That I've ever seen In my 33-year history. 116 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,270 The conditions are The worst I've seen, 117 00:09:24,270 --> 00:09:26,800 And this storm is one Of the worst that I've seen. 118 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,070 If I were you, I would issue A mandatory evacuation, 119 00:09:30,070 --> 00:09:32,330 And try and get everybody Out that you can 120 00:09:32,330 --> 00:09:34,270 'cause this is The real deal." 121 00:09:34,270 --> 00:09:35,870 This is very serious. 122 00:09:35,870 --> 00:09:38,470 This is the storm that Everybody was afraid of. 123 00:09:38,470 --> 00:09:41,800 And when you get Somebody like the head Of the hurricane center 124 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,600 To say that in 33 years They hadn't seen Anything like it, 125 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,200 We should Take heed to it. 126 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,200 The city of New Orleans Had never in its history 127 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,230 Issued a mandatory Evacuation. 128 00:09:53,230 --> 00:09:55,830 There's all sorts Of legal concerns, 129 00:09:55,830 --> 00:09:58,130 Because you have So many residents 130 00:09:58,130 --> 00:10:01,430 Who rely upon Public transportation, 131 00:10:01,430 --> 00:10:04,630 And there's a question about Whether you can really deliver 132 00:10:04,630 --> 00:10:06,700 On that order. 133 00:10:06,700 --> 00:10:08,970 I basically called My city attorney 134 00:10:08,970 --> 00:10:11,830 After that Saturday night Conversation with max mayfield 135 00:10:11,830 --> 00:10:14,130 And said, "I don't care What you have to do, 136 00:10:14,130 --> 00:10:16,970 Figure out a way for us To order mandatory evacuation." 137 00:10:16,970 --> 00:10:18,700 And we did that The next morning. 138 00:10:18,700 --> 00:10:21,930 I pretty much just Disregarded the fact 139 00:10:21,930 --> 00:10:25,530 That hurricane Katrina was Headed towards New Orleans. 140 00:10:27,730 --> 00:10:31,200 A few of my friends seemed To be particularly worried. 141 00:10:33,030 --> 00:10:35,600 But I guess I'd been through Enough of them, that I just-- 142 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,330 And I'd never particularly Been very worried about it. 143 00:10:38,330 --> 00:10:41,730 It was a Saturday night At 4:00 in the morning. 144 00:10:41,730 --> 00:10:43,400 I went to bed that night, 145 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,130 And my son-in-law called me About 4:00 in the morning, 146 00:10:46,130 --> 00:10:49,330 Said "Father-in-law, You better get up and watch tv," 147 00:10:49,330 --> 00:10:52,630 And turned on margaret orr, And we watched her. 148 00:10:52,630 --> 00:10:55,130 And when they showed you What was happening-- 149 00:10:55,130 --> 00:10:57,470 That thing was Covering the gulf. 150 00:10:57,470 --> 00:11:01,100 Nagin: Hurricane Katrina will likely Affect the Louisiana coast 151 00:11:01,100 --> 00:11:04,530 With tropical-force winds And heavy rainfall By this evening. 152 00:11:04,530 --> 00:11:07,730 Governor blanco and I, Mayor c. Ray Nagin, 153 00:11:07,730 --> 00:11:10,530 Have each declared A state of emergency. 154 00:11:10,530 --> 00:11:13,230 Every person Is hereby ordered 155 00:11:13,230 --> 00:11:16,800 To immediately evacuate The city of New Orleans. 156 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,570 Hurricane Katrina Is now designated A category five hurricane. 157 00:11:22,100 --> 00:11:25,270 We cannot stress enough The danger this Hurricane poses 158 00:11:25,270 --> 00:11:27,830 To gulf coast communities. 159 00:11:27,830 --> 00:11:30,700 I urge all citizens To put their own safety 160 00:11:30,700 --> 00:11:34,970 And the safety Of their families first By moving to safe ground. 161 00:11:34,970 --> 00:11:36,770 My name is Tanya Harris, 162 00:11:36,770 --> 00:11:39,670 And I'm a lower 9th ward resident. 163 00:11:39,670 --> 00:11:42,770 This is-- actually, This is three generations Of us right here. 164 00:11:42,770 --> 00:11:44,800 This is my grandmother Josephine butler, 165 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,630 And that's my mother Chirrie Harris. 166 00:11:46,630 --> 00:11:49,170 We evacuated the Sunday Before the storm. 167 00:11:49,170 --> 00:11:53,630 My sister's van Had broken down, 168 00:11:53,630 --> 00:11:57,270 And basically She didn't want to leave; 169 00:11:57,270 --> 00:12:00,000 She just had No desire to leave, Because, you know, 170 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,100 Evacuating can get Kind of costly. 171 00:12:02,100 --> 00:12:06,130 And a lot of times, We'd always just leave And nothing happens. 172 00:12:06,130 --> 00:12:08,330 So she didn't Want to leave. 173 00:12:08,330 --> 00:12:10,530 And my grandmother said, "You know, 174 00:12:10,530 --> 00:12:13,430 I think this is going to be A pretty strong storm. 175 00:12:13,430 --> 00:12:15,730 And so I think we ought To get out of here." 176 00:12:15,730 --> 00:12:19,000 And my sister Still wouldn't leave. But if one of us doesn't go, 177 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,770 None of us will go. We all stay. 178 00:12:21,770 --> 00:12:24,170 I told them-- I got a stick, I went around there, 179 00:12:24,170 --> 00:12:27,370 I said, "Y'all going To leave out of that house." I said, "Right now." 180 00:12:27,370 --> 00:12:29,700 I said, "Come on, get in the car. If you don't have anything, 181 00:12:29,700 --> 00:12:31,400 Get in the car. Let's go. We got to go." 182 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,370 So they got in the car. We all packed up in the car And then we left. 183 00:12:34,370 --> 00:12:36,600 We begin with two words Coastal residents 184 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,270 Never want to hear: Category five. 185 00:12:39,270 --> 00:12:42,770 Hurricane Katrina now threatens To bring catastrophic damage 186 00:12:42,770 --> 00:12:45,130 To coastal Louisiana And mississippi. 187 00:12:45,130 --> 00:12:46,830 This monster Of a storm is now 188 00:12:46,830 --> 00:12:49,230 At the most powerful Level for a hurricane, 189 00:12:49,230 --> 00:12:52,470 And it's taking aim At a wide swath of The gulf coast. 190 00:12:52,470 --> 00:12:54,370 And that includes New Orleans-- 191 00:12:54,370 --> 00:12:56,600 A city six feet Below sea level. 192 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,270 When I heard The category five Was coming, 193 00:12:59,270 --> 00:13:02,570 I decided to evacuate. 194 00:13:02,570 --> 00:13:05,100 I took my entire family 195 00:13:05,100 --> 00:13:08,130 And I went To north Louisiana, Stayed with my brother. 196 00:13:08,130 --> 00:13:12,300 They said, "Well, we got to leave. The hurricane coming." 197 00:13:12,300 --> 00:13:14,930 I said, "Listen, man, 198 00:13:14,930 --> 00:13:17,930 Everybody who's afraid Should leave, 199 00:13:17,930 --> 00:13:20,300 But I ain't For that leaving. 200 00:13:20,300 --> 00:13:22,000 I'm going to stay Right here." 201 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,330 The main reason that I decided to leave is 202 00:13:24,330 --> 00:13:26,630 I hadn't gone shopping; I had intended to. 203 00:13:26,630 --> 00:13:30,200 So I was out of food And I knew the grocery stores Would be shutting down. 204 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:34,000 I left late, once I took A good look inside my ice box, 205 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,130 And that was Sunday evening. 206 00:13:36,130 --> 00:13:39,130 I had never evacuated From New Orleans For a hurricane. 207 00:13:39,130 --> 00:13:41,730 We've had others. And we didn't know how severe 208 00:13:41,730 --> 00:13:43,570 This one was going to be. 209 00:13:43,570 --> 00:13:46,130 But my wife and my sons Convinced me-- 210 00:13:46,130 --> 00:13:49,630 "Well, just leave the house And let's go downtown To a hotel, 211 00:13:49,630 --> 00:13:51,530 Then you can Come back tomorrow." 212 00:13:51,530 --> 00:13:53,370 So I said, "Fine, I'll do that." 213 00:13:53,370 --> 00:13:55,870 The same thing was happening That happens with a lot 214 00:13:55,870 --> 00:13:57,930 Of hurricanes coming To New Orleans. 215 00:13:57,930 --> 00:14:00,230 There's a group that says, "I'm going to leave; 216 00:14:00,230 --> 00:14:02,200 You don't have To tell me twice." 217 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,270 And then there's The other group that says, "I rode out betsy, 218 00:14:05,270 --> 00:14:08,370 And I'm going to stay here And it's going to be okay." 219 00:14:08,370 --> 00:14:11,800 We left the city That Sunday, when they made it A mandatory evacuation. 220 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,830 I was at a hotel, Right across the street 221 00:14:13,830 --> 00:14:16,070 From the convention center And the superdome. 222 00:14:16,070 --> 00:14:20,470 Went to get my bags, And as I was driving back home To pick up my parents, 223 00:14:20,470 --> 00:14:23,970 There was lines of people Already going into The superdome. 224 00:14:23,970 --> 00:14:27,600 And they were holding them Back, saying this is a place Of last resort 225 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,300 So don't go yet. So people were just Lined up like a parade, 226 00:14:31,300 --> 00:14:34,930 Waiting for the superdome To open and go into it. 227 00:14:34,930 --> 00:14:37,630 Nagin: As the storm was Bearing down on us, 228 00:14:37,630 --> 00:14:41,070 We had opened up the superdome For people with special needs, 229 00:14:41,070 --> 00:14:43,670 Medical needs, Which we always do. 230 00:14:43,670 --> 00:14:45,500 The superdome is used 231 00:14:45,500 --> 00:14:47,800 Because there's No other facility 232 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,170 In the New Orleans area 233 00:14:50,170 --> 00:14:52,530 That is capable Of sustaining winds 234 00:14:52,530 --> 00:14:55,570 Higher than a category Three storm. 235 00:14:55,570 --> 00:14:59,170 Nagin over p.A.: We have been very fortunate 236 00:14:59,170 --> 00:15:02,270 To get food 237 00:15:02,270 --> 00:15:04,770 For you tonight. 238 00:15:04,770 --> 00:15:07,000 ( applause ) 239 00:15:10,070 --> 00:15:12,930 Shelton shakespear alexander: The mood in the beginning 240 00:15:12,930 --> 00:15:14,830 Was kind of like, "Okay, we're okay." 241 00:15:14,830 --> 00:15:17,900 You know, we was cheering When they were speaking, You know? 242 00:15:17,900 --> 00:15:20,270 It was kind of exciting To know they had food. 243 00:15:20,270 --> 00:15:22,130 We wanted to see the tvs. 244 00:15:22,130 --> 00:15:24,700 We wanted to know What was going on With the news out there. 245 00:15:24,700 --> 00:15:27,430 And so everybody Kind of like, was kind of, 246 00:15:27,430 --> 00:15:30,530 I guess, accepting Where they was at 247 00:15:30,530 --> 00:15:33,970 At that particular time, Even though the storm Was coming. 248 00:15:35,830 --> 00:15:39,500 Reporter: at 7:38 this Evening, we are continuing To track hurricane Katrina, 249 00:15:39,500 --> 00:15:42,300 As we are now starting to feel Some of the effects of Katrina. 250 00:15:42,300 --> 00:15:45,500 This right here is a, Well, empty street here In New Orleans. 251 00:15:45,500 --> 00:15:47,600 It actually looks A little eerie, you know? 252 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,200 To see our city looking Like this on a Sunday evening. 253 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,370 Montana leblanc: I started praying a lot. 254 00:15:52,370 --> 00:15:54,770 And I called my sister cheryl In california-- 255 00:15:54,770 --> 00:15:57,530 She could see the news-- 'cause we had already Lost power. 256 00:15:57,530 --> 00:16:01,770 So she could see the news In california on cnn and she was Giving me the update. 257 00:16:01,770 --> 00:16:04,030 This was before it actually Full-blown hit us. 258 00:16:04,030 --> 00:16:06,600 And she said, "Phyllis, It's 30 minutes away." 259 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,770 So I hang up, I'm praying, I'm praying, I'm praying, 260 00:16:08,770 --> 00:16:11,300 I'm getting My husband prayed up, I'm getting me prayed up. 261 00:16:11,300 --> 00:16:14,170 I'm like, "Ron, you know what I never thought about? God's will. 262 00:16:14,170 --> 00:16:16,370 What if this is Actually god's will, 263 00:16:16,370 --> 00:16:20,800 For us to die right now; For this to be the time, For us to die like this?" 264 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,070 Gina montana: We both knew how to swim, 265 00:16:23,070 --> 00:16:25,370 But jahiya's a better Swimmer than I am. 266 00:16:25,370 --> 00:16:28,500 And I talked to her about If the storm starts hitting, 267 00:16:28,500 --> 00:16:31,630 We found ourselves in the water And having to swim, 268 00:16:31,630 --> 00:16:33,870 If she could get to safety 269 00:16:33,870 --> 00:16:35,830 And if I was trailing Behind her, 270 00:16:35,830 --> 00:16:37,670 To keep going. 271 00:16:37,670 --> 00:16:41,530 Don't worry about me. Get herself to safety. 272 00:16:41,530 --> 00:16:45,430 And she said, "Mom, you know I wouldn't leave you." 273 00:16:45,430 --> 00:16:47,100 You know? 274 00:16:47,100 --> 00:16:51,130 Because we knew it was A life-or-death situation. 275 00:16:51,130 --> 00:16:53,170 The potential danger, 276 00:16:53,170 --> 00:16:55,470 The threat of the storm Was enormous. 277 00:16:55,470 --> 00:16:57,930 Reporter: Cnn is your hurricane Headquarters. 278 00:16:57,930 --> 00:17:01,000 We are watching A category five hurricane, Hurricane Katrina, 279 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,300 As it makes its way towards The city of New Orleans, 280 00:17:04,300 --> 00:17:08,600 The expected landfall About 5:00 to 8:00 a.M. Tomorrow morning. 281 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,470 I wasn't in good Physical condition, 282 00:17:10,470 --> 00:17:13,270 But it was about 12:00 Before I left. 283 00:17:13,270 --> 00:17:15,100 And I really was-- 284 00:17:15,100 --> 00:17:17,270 Had anticipated Not leaving the house. 285 00:17:17,270 --> 00:17:19,800 I was going to ride This one out. 286 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,900 And so-- but then I made a decision 287 00:17:22,900 --> 00:17:26,370 That I needed to go up To the complex. 288 00:17:26,370 --> 00:17:30,230 So I asked my wife, After I got in the car, 289 00:17:30,230 --> 00:17:33,700 I told her, we only live About a block away from... 290 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,530 The chalmette back levee That surrounds st. Bernard, 291 00:17:40,530 --> 00:17:42,700 And the area I live in Is verret. 292 00:17:42,700 --> 00:17:45,870 I told my wife just To take the back road, And she asked me why. 293 00:17:45,870 --> 00:17:48,500 I said, "Well, It's a sceniroute." 294 00:17:48,500 --> 00:17:51,830 And I said, "I just want you To look at it and just Remember," I said, 295 00:17:51,830 --> 00:17:56,000 "Because if this thing hits, That's all you going to have Is memories of this place." 296 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,170 Well, everybody left. I went out, ran 10 miles, 297 00:17:59,170 --> 00:18:01,870 Came back, Boarded up my house, 298 00:18:01,870 --> 00:18:05,200 Called my man, We went to the hospital To see my brother, 299 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,100 And then we went Up to the hyatt, 300 00:18:08,100 --> 00:18:11,530 Parked the car, Went up to the 27th floor. 301 00:18:11,530 --> 00:18:14,430 About 11:30, a guy came On the p.A. System, 302 00:18:14,430 --> 00:18:18,630 Says, "Everybody place your Belongings in the bathrooms, 303 00:18:18,630 --> 00:18:22,500 Grab your spread, your pillow And come to the fourth-floor Ballroom." 304 00:18:22,500 --> 00:18:26,100 I guess about 2:30 in the morning 305 00:18:26,100 --> 00:18:28,530 It got rough. 306 00:18:33,030 --> 00:18:35,730 ; 307 00:18:41,130 --> 00:18:43,870 Eddie compass: We started listening To the wind, 308 00:18:43,870 --> 00:18:47,170 And that sound-- I'll never forget that sound, 309 00:18:47,170 --> 00:18:49,970 The wind hitting the glass At the hyatt. 310 00:18:49,970 --> 00:18:52,530 And those glasses Started breaking. 311 00:18:52,530 --> 00:18:56,030 And that's when you could see The true power of mother nature. 312 00:18:56,030 --> 00:18:58,700 The winds woke me up and I Got up and looked outside, 313 00:18:58,700 --> 00:19:02,700 And saw trees In the courtyard across From me just like swaying. 314 00:19:05,830 --> 00:19:08,830 Rhonda washington: You could hear the squall Through the window, 315 00:19:08,830 --> 00:19:11,030 Going "Shhhh," Like a tornado. 316 00:19:11,030 --> 00:19:13,930 I thought a tornado Was by the hospital, It was so loud. 317 00:19:13,930 --> 00:19:16,900 Moved all our patients Out into the hallway, 318 00:19:16,900 --> 00:19:21,670 Because we didn't want Any windows cracking on them, Any windows breaking. 319 00:19:23,870 --> 00:19:26,830 Alexander: This is August 29t , 2005. 320 00:19:26,830 --> 00:19:29,500 About 6:00 in the morning, Everybody kind of sleeping. 321 00:19:29,500 --> 00:19:31,500 And then, all of a sudden, You just hear-- 322 00:19:31,500 --> 00:19:34,430 ( thunderous crashing ) 323 00:19:37,570 --> 00:19:40,330 Reporter: It sounded like A new york city subway train. 324 00:19:40,330 --> 00:19:43,530 Others said they Thought it was thunder Or someone hammering. 325 00:19:43,530 --> 00:19:45,730 And in a way, it was. It was Katrina 326 00:19:45,730 --> 00:19:48,530 Hammering away at the roof, Trying to get in. 327 00:19:50,100 --> 00:19:53,430 And then this: the first break Visible in the roof. 328 00:19:53,430 --> 00:19:57,170 That is Daylight coming through, And the rain soon followed. 329 00:19:58,500 --> 00:20:00,900 Blanco: There are reports About the superdome. 330 00:20:00,900 --> 00:20:04,330 Some reports that we have Gotten from people in the dome 331 00:20:04,330 --> 00:20:06,770 Tell us that there has been... ( clears throat ) 332 00:20:06,770 --> 00:20:10,270 A portion of the roof That is leaking. 333 00:20:10,270 --> 00:20:12,300 The structure is sound. 334 00:20:12,300 --> 00:20:15,130 Right now there is No structural damage. 335 00:20:15,130 --> 00:20:17,200 They have moved the people 336 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,270 Who were on the floor Of the superdome 337 00:20:19,270 --> 00:20:21,470 In a very orderly fashion To get them 338 00:20:21,470 --> 00:20:24,800 Out of the water That's coming through. 339 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,770 Now having said that, We have several more Hours to go, 340 00:20:28,770 --> 00:20:31,270 Watching The situation and... 341 00:20:31,270 --> 00:20:33,870 The rains are Pretty heavy. 342 00:20:45,500 --> 00:20:47,630 Montana leblanc: The wind is roiling. 343 00:20:47,630 --> 00:20:50,630 It's roiling too much. I mean, there's tin Flying off this. 344 00:20:50,630 --> 00:20:54,130 Everything is ripping, The whole aluminum siding Of the building-- 345 00:20:54,130 --> 00:20:57,800 You can actually hear it Being peeled like-- 346 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,330 Like somebody-- it's just like That darryl hannah movie 347 00:21:00,330 --> 00:21:03,630 From a long time ago, "The 50-foot woman" or whatever The hell she was. 348 00:21:03,630 --> 00:21:06,530 That's what Katrina was; She was peeling our shit apart. 349 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,970 Seelig: And it just got worse And worse and worse. 350 00:21:23,970 --> 00:21:27,130 I mean, it was Just incredible, the sound. 351 00:21:27,130 --> 00:21:29,300 It was like having A freight train 352 00:21:29,300 --> 00:21:31,570 In your ear For hours on end. 353 00:21:31,570 --> 00:21:33,970 Just this-- ( growls ) 354 00:21:35,300 --> 00:21:37,530 You can't describe it 'cause it's deafening. 355 00:21:37,530 --> 00:21:40,100 You can't even hear Yourself think after a while. 356 00:21:47,700 --> 00:21:51,100 Montana: All I could think of was one Word and I said it out loud. 357 00:21:51,100 --> 00:21:54,630 And I remember my daughter Looking at me like, "What is She saying?" 358 00:21:54,630 --> 00:21:56,930 But all I could say was, "Stabilize." 359 00:21:56,930 --> 00:21:59,670 I just wanted the winds 360 00:21:59,670 --> 00:22:03,300 And the house to stop shaking And to stabilize. 361 00:22:12,930 --> 00:22:15,200 Cameraman: What's up? 362 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,130 How you doing, man? I had to leave out Of my house, man. 363 00:22:18,130 --> 00:22:21,830 I don't know whether That water's coming over That levee or what. 364 00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:24,500 - cameraman: The storm missed us. - I can't hear you. 365 00:22:24,500 --> 00:22:27,600 - the storm went east. - so you haven't heard About that water 366 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,630 Coming over That levee from the lake? 367 00:22:29,630 --> 00:22:32,670 - no. I'll check it out. - 'cause the water start Rising so high 368 00:22:32,670 --> 00:22:34,930 In my two-story apartment, I had to get out, man. 369 00:22:34,930 --> 00:22:38,330 - where's that at? - right across from Robinson's overpass. 370 00:22:38,330 --> 00:22:40,600 - okay. - around clouet And louisa street. 371 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,170 Around 9:00, we heard A big boom noise. 372 00:22:44,170 --> 00:22:48,030 Boom-- and it was Loud loud loud. 373 00:22:48,030 --> 00:22:52,100 Yes, I heard the explosion. We heard it first, The echo from here. 374 00:22:53,870 --> 00:22:57,000 Then it was here. I said, "Oh my god, It's the end of the world." 375 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,470 We heard some explosions-- Two, three. 376 00:23:00,470 --> 00:23:06,470 We thought about-- I thought maybe it was An electrical transformer, 377 00:23:06,470 --> 00:23:09,370 Or something popping In the distance. 378 00:23:09,370 --> 00:23:12,330 First I heard one boom. I though it was a big Transformer. 379 00:23:12,330 --> 00:23:15,600 'cause fred said, "It's a transformer." 380 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,770 But I said, "We've been sitting In the dark now for about Two hours, three hours." 381 00:23:19,770 --> 00:23:22,300 But it went again, Boom boom. 382 00:23:22,300 --> 00:23:23,870 I think the levee cracked 383 00:23:23,870 --> 00:23:25,800 And they helped it The rest of the way. 384 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,070 They had a bomb; They bombed that sucker. 385 00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:31,170 I didn't only Hear the explosion, I felt the explosion. 386 00:23:33,130 --> 00:23:35,300 And there should be Somebody else heard 387 00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:38,170 And felt the explosion Besides me. 388 00:24:32,170 --> 00:24:34,370 I don't believe that The levees were blown; 389 00:24:34,370 --> 00:24:36,570 I believe that my people Heard explosions 390 00:24:36,570 --> 00:24:40,400 When the water gushed Through a gaping hole. 391 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,200 You know, you have A crack that goes 392 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,300 From being a crack To a gaping hole-- 393 00:24:44,300 --> 00:24:46,300 You're going to hear Some type of sound. 394 00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:48,200 The levees gave. 395 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,700 I don't think it was blown up; I'll be honest with you. 396 00:24:50,700 --> 00:24:53,200 I think what they heard was-- It was a possibility-- 397 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,730 They could have heard The snapping of the ropes 398 00:24:55,730 --> 00:24:59,000 That hold These barges together. 399 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,470 I almost have to believe That they heard the barge hit 400 00:25:01,470 --> 00:25:04,630 That concrete wall, Because it just looks To me like that barge 401 00:25:04,630 --> 00:25:06,700 Was the thing that Knocked that wall down. 402 00:25:06,700 --> 00:25:10,030 I'm 45 years old. I'm a New Orleans native. 403 00:25:10,030 --> 00:25:12,030 I've been in New Orleans All my life. 404 00:25:12,030 --> 00:25:15,400 My mother was born In New Orleans; my father Was born in New Orleans; 405 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,530 My grandmother was born In New Orleans. 406 00:25:17,530 --> 00:25:19,800 And I was there When hurricane betsy hit. 407 00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:25,530 Montana: In 1965, during Hurricane betsy, 408 00:25:25,530 --> 00:25:31,530 There was an intentional Dynamite of the levees, 409 00:25:31,530 --> 00:25:35,530 And that caused The lower 9th ward To flood. 410 00:25:35,530 --> 00:25:37,300 People were On their roofs. 411 00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:40,200 Several people Lost their lives. 412 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:45,170 They dynamited the levees And flooded the lower 9th ward, 413 00:25:45,170 --> 00:25:48,470 In order to save some Of the more expensive property 414 00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:50,570 In the lakefront area. 415 00:25:50,570 --> 00:25:52,500 They're not going to never Leave nothing 416 00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:54,400 Happen to this French quarter. Okay? 417 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,430 Nothing is going to happen. If the french quarter go, Everything go. 418 00:25:57,430 --> 00:25:59,170 They blowed that levee 419 00:25:59,170 --> 00:26:02,870 So the water could release On that side of the city. 420 00:26:02,870 --> 00:26:06,070 Morial: During hurricane betsy, There were rumors, 421 00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:09,300 And it became almost An article of faith 422 00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:12,600 With people in the community, That the 9th ward flooded 423 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,430 Because there was An intentional breach Of the levee. 424 00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:17,300 It was never Investigated. 425 00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:19,900 It was neither proven Nor disproven. 426 00:26:19,900 --> 00:26:22,400 In this case, 427 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,870 For the government And others 428 00:26:25,870 --> 00:26:29,830 To sort of dismiss it Without looking Into all of it, 429 00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:32,970 Is not doing the people 430 00:26:32,970 --> 00:26:35,000 Or the public a service. 431 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,700 These people that live Along where it flooded, 432 00:26:37,700 --> 00:26:39,670 That believe It was dynamited, 433 00:26:39,670 --> 00:26:42,600 Have a long experience Of being ripped off. 434 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,530 The 1927 flood, 435 00:26:44,530 --> 00:26:47,170 When black communities Were dynamited, 436 00:26:47,170 --> 00:26:49,770 What happened during betsy Was on their mind, 437 00:26:49,770 --> 00:26:52,600 It's not a far jump To believe 438 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,730 The urban myth That it got dynamited. 439 00:26:55,730 --> 00:26:58,730 I think there are Too many similarities 440 00:26:58,730 --> 00:27:02,470 Between the 1927 flood And Katrina. 441 00:27:02,470 --> 00:27:04,130 For one thing, 442 00:27:04,130 --> 00:27:07,730 The levee policy Of the federal government-- 443 00:27:07,730 --> 00:27:10,930 The flood protection policy Of the federal government 444 00:27:10,930 --> 00:27:14,370 Was directly responsible. 445 00:27:14,370 --> 00:27:17,200 I mean, it was Deeply flawed in 1927, 446 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,870 And had been Widely criticized. 447 00:27:19,870 --> 00:27:21,800 The city of New Orleans 448 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,400 Had exercised Its political muscle, 449 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,170 And dynamited the levee Outside the city, 450 00:27:27,170 --> 00:27:28,830 Flooded out its neighbors. 451 00:27:28,830 --> 00:27:31,830 And this wasn't about race; It was about money. 452 00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:35,700 The people who were Flooded out of their homes 453 00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:38,130 Were in St. Bernard parish. They were almost, 454 00:27:38,130 --> 00:27:42,000 All of them, were white. So, as I say, it had nothing About race. 455 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,730 It was an enormous event. 456 00:27:44,730 --> 00:27:47,930 It flooded the homes Of over a million people, 457 00:27:47,930 --> 00:27:52,430 Which back then was almost 1% of the entire population Of the united states. 458 00:27:52,430 --> 00:27:57,070 In Louisiana alone, There were 200,000 people 459 00:27:57,070 --> 00:28:00,000 Who were fed By the red cross 460 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,030 For months after the flood. 461 00:28:02,030 --> 00:28:05,130 More than half of them Were living in tent cities. 462 00:28:05,130 --> 00:28:09,370 Until Katrina, it was The greatest natural disaster 463 00:28:09,370 --> 00:28:11,330 The country Had ever seen. 464 00:28:11,330 --> 00:28:14,570 Two years ago, fema actually Funded a study called "Pam," 465 00:28:14,570 --> 00:28:18,730 Where they did a study, A numerical study, 466 00:28:18,730 --> 00:28:21,100 Computer simulation model Of what would happen 467 00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:23,370 If a hurricane category five Hit New Orleans. 468 00:28:23,370 --> 00:28:27,530 Hurricane pam was A fictitious hurricane 469 00:28:27,530 --> 00:28:32,200 Engineers And the federal emergency Management agency designed 470 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:37,370 To see what happens If we flood New Orleans. 471 00:28:37,370 --> 00:28:39,400 What we are looking at here 472 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,900 Is as the storm moved Toward New Orleans, 473 00:28:42,900 --> 00:28:46,600 It started to flood New Orleans From east and west, 474 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,930 And eventually entire bowl Gets flooded. 475 00:28:49,930 --> 00:28:53,800 Hurricane pam Came up with some very Very significant findings. 476 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,900 And unfortunately, These seem to have been ignored 477 00:28:56,900 --> 00:29:00,400 By many many agencies As we move forward. 478 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,200 One of the most significant 479 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:08,070 Was that we had identified Through our own research 480 00:29:08,070 --> 00:29:11,700 That there were 127,000 people In New Orleans 481 00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:14,500 Who didn't have access To motor vehicles. 482 00:29:14,500 --> 00:29:17,300 In addition, there were A large number of homeless 483 00:29:17,300 --> 00:29:19,630 And the disabled. 484 00:29:19,630 --> 00:29:22,630 So you were talking about A significant percentage 485 00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:24,900 Of the population That couldn't evacuate. 486 00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:27,600 Rodriguez: In 1965, 487 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,930 They started Those levees. 488 00:29:30,930 --> 00:29:32,970 They haven't Finished them today, 489 00:29:32,970 --> 00:29:35,170 And that's 40-something Years later. 490 00:29:35,170 --> 00:29:38,630 They haven't Put the last lift On these levees. 491 00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:41,130 It's like the guy that Used to get up there with-- 492 00:29:41,130 --> 00:29:44,100 Years back, Hold that oil filter In his hands, 493 00:29:44,100 --> 00:29:46,100 Say, "Pay me now, Or pay me later." 494 00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:48,570 Well, this is the pay me later. This is the payback. 495 00:29:48,570 --> 00:29:51,670 It's like, "Oh, it costs Too much money." 496 00:29:51,670 --> 00:29:55,200 Now they've failed And now look how much money They got to spend. 497 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,600 You know the old saying, "A stitch in time..."? 498 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,730 Well, we don't Deal that way. 499 00:30:01,730 --> 00:30:04,530 We said, "If we look the other y, It'll go away." 500 00:30:04,530 --> 00:30:07,330 And now it's just coming back Home to roost, you know? 501 00:30:07,330 --> 00:30:09,900 All the stuff they've Done for the last 40 years 502 00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:11,730 Came home in a big way. 503 00:30:11,730 --> 00:30:15,300 President hoover in 1947, In a famous speech about Engineers said, 504 00:30:15,300 --> 00:30:17,900 He said that engineering Is a great profession. 505 00:30:17,900 --> 00:30:20,300 He said, but engineers, We build stuff. 506 00:30:20,300 --> 00:30:23,970 He said, politicians may put Their name on it, but we can't Deny that we did it. 507 00:30:23,970 --> 00:30:27,470 He said an engineer is Unlike a doctor who can Bury his mistakes. 508 00:30:27,470 --> 00:30:30,230 He said an engineer is not like A politician who can blame it 509 00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:32,500 On his opponent on the opposite Side of the aisle, 510 00:30:32,500 --> 00:30:34,830 Or hope that The public forgets. 511 00:30:34,830 --> 00:30:38,370 He said, an engineer Is not like a lawyer, 512 00:30:38,370 --> 00:30:41,100 Who could blame it on the judge, Or try to argue their way. 513 00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:43,030 He said, an engineer is Unlike an architect 514 00:30:43,030 --> 00:30:46,030 Who can hide his mistakes With trees and shrubbery. 515 00:30:46,030 --> 00:30:48,930 He said when an engineer makes A mistake, he is damned 516 00:30:48,930 --> 00:30:52,000 Because his mistake is there For the world to see. 517 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,470 The engineers should have Designed those 518 00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:58,600 Much better And much stronger. 519 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,530 And we haven't seen that. 520 00:31:00,530 --> 00:31:02,970 As for example, 17th street canal-- 521 00:31:02,970 --> 00:31:05,830 The sheet pile Was too shallow 522 00:31:05,830 --> 00:31:08,770 And didn't go all the way It should go. 523 00:31:08,770 --> 00:31:12,500 In st. Bernard parish, Where the levees overtop, 524 00:31:12,500 --> 00:31:14,970 Levee material Was not strong enough, 525 00:31:14,970 --> 00:31:16,900 And those were Not armored. 526 00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:21,430 My understanding is people Think we got hit by a hurricane. 527 00:31:21,430 --> 00:31:24,530 We got missed by a hurricane. The hurricane went east. 528 00:31:24,530 --> 00:31:27,500 But the water Backed up the lake. 529 00:31:27,500 --> 00:31:30,070 My understanding is The lake backed up 530 00:31:30,070 --> 00:31:33,500 A category one Into our levees, 531 00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:36,830 And then they failed. Not a category three; 532 00:31:36,830 --> 00:31:40,330 Category three came up The industrial canal And the m.R.G.O., 533 00:31:40,330 --> 00:31:42,830 Breached the levees, Topped the levees, 534 00:31:42,830 --> 00:31:45,700 But the two main ones That broke, 535 00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:48,930 Broke under category one, Category two, tops. 536 00:31:48,930 --> 00:31:52,530 So we've been lied to All these years 537 00:31:52,530 --> 00:31:54,730 By the federal Government. 538 00:31:54,730 --> 00:31:58,170 And it cost the people, Not just New Orleans And the 9th ward, 539 00:31:58,170 --> 00:32:01,000 But the whole Freakin' southeast Louisiana. 540 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,170 It cost the people Their homes and Their lives. 541 00:32:04,170 --> 00:32:07,100 I hope the politicians, Whoever did this, 542 00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:09,670 The corp of engineers, Whoever's responsible, 543 00:32:09,670 --> 00:32:12,430 I hope that they can Sleep at night. 544 00:32:12,430 --> 00:32:15,530 I hope they can sleep At night... 545 00:32:15,530 --> 00:32:19,470 Knowing that They're the ones Who's responsible. 546 00:32:19,470 --> 00:32:22,930 And that's not this talking, That's the freakin' truth. 547 00:32:22,930 --> 00:32:24,900 Deejay: Let's go to anita In uptown. 548 00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:26,900 Anita, are you Seeing any water 549 00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:28,870 In the streets Where you are now? 550 00:32:28,870 --> 00:32:31,800 Anita: Yes, it's actually up to The top step, and we have-- 551 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,730 Deejay: How many steps do you have? 552 00:32:33,730 --> 00:32:36,900 Anita: We only have four. And we Have 12 people in our house, 553 00:32:36,900 --> 00:32:39,330 Including a senior citizen And two babies. 554 00:32:39,330 --> 00:32:41,830 Seelig: I walked over To the sewer drain, 555 00:32:41,830 --> 00:32:44,270 The storm drains on the side Of the street, 556 00:32:44,270 --> 00:32:47,730 And I could hear this low Rumbling gurgle coming at me. 557 00:32:47,730 --> 00:32:50,870 It sounded like... 558 00:32:50,870 --> 00:32:53,070 Just bubble and boil. 559 00:32:53,070 --> 00:32:56,970 And it just spit out all over, Spit all over my shoes. 560 00:32:56,970 --> 00:33:00,830 Then I started hearing Clang clang clang Down the street, 561 00:33:00,830 --> 00:33:03,070 And it was the manhole covers Popping off, 562 00:33:03,070 --> 00:33:05,830 And the water was just Blowing out the manhole covers, 563 00:33:05,830 --> 00:33:07,900 And it was coming out Of the storm drains 564 00:33:07,900 --> 00:33:11,830 And it was filling up. And you could see it coming Down the side streets. 565 00:33:11,830 --> 00:33:14,930 You know, it wasn't like A wall of water, but it Was coming out quick, 566 00:33:14,930 --> 00:33:17,570 And you could see it was Starting to rise up real quick. 567 00:33:17,570 --> 00:33:21,000 Judy come and woke me up, And says, "Hey, go out and look At the street." 568 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,000 When I went And looked at the street, The water was pouring in. 569 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,300 I run back in the house, Told them 570 00:33:26,300 --> 00:33:29,870 To put on their Life jackets and everything. We had to get out of the house. 571 00:33:29,870 --> 00:33:33,700 And henry was trying to open The back door for us to get Out of the house, 572 00:33:33,700 --> 00:33:37,300 Because the water was Coming up so quickly. It was up to the window. 573 00:33:37,300 --> 00:33:39,870 I got up and I went To my front door, 574 00:33:39,870 --> 00:33:43,170 And I had water 575 00:33:43,170 --> 00:33:46,230 Up over my head. If I'd have stepped Out on my step, 576 00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:47,870 I'd have drowned. 577 00:33:47,870 --> 00:33:50,430 I'm going to throw you A life preserver, okay? 578 00:33:51,930 --> 00:33:54,170 There it is; you see it? Put your feet on anything. 579 00:33:54,170 --> 00:33:57,630 Go for that life preserver Right there. Don't let it Drift away from you. 580 00:33:57,630 --> 00:34:01,130 - man: grab that life jacket. - all right, Take the life jacket. 581 00:34:01,130 --> 00:34:03,630 Now the water's Going to be deep. Come on, ma'am. 582 00:34:03,630 --> 00:34:07,400 Come on; you can do it. Let go. Let go, come on. 583 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,670 - I can't. - yes, you can! 584 00:34:09,670 --> 00:34:12,430 - the life preserver Will help you. - don't panic. 585 00:34:12,430 --> 00:34:14,370 Don't panic. Just come to us. 586 00:34:14,370 --> 00:34:18,500 - don't make me fall. - once you get to us, we can Get you into the boat. 587 00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:21,230 Come on. 588 00:34:21,230 --> 00:34:24,370 - there you go. - don't panic, don't panic! 589 00:34:24,370 --> 00:34:27,130 Hang on, just go right On the top of that. 590 00:34:27,130 --> 00:34:30,830 I went out on the second-floor Porch to look over, 591 00:34:30,830 --> 00:34:34,430 And see the water just Kept rising and kept rising. 592 00:34:34,430 --> 00:34:36,030 So I went in the room, 593 00:34:36,030 --> 00:34:39,430 And I broke down, got on My knees and I started praying. 594 00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:43,730 I was like, "I'm not going To let nobody die, 595 00:34:43,730 --> 00:34:46,470 So I got to get myself together And get my mind right 596 00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:49,600 To focus on how I'm going To do this here." 597 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,170 So I'm steady dialg On my cell phone 911. 598 00:34:53,170 --> 00:34:56,400 You can't get through, You can't get through. I got so desperate 599 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,630 And lost a sense Of intelligence 600 00:34:58,630 --> 00:35:02,400 That I dialed zero For the operator and asked her Could she transfer me to 911. 601 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,530 She said, "I can't do it." I said, "Why not?" 602 00:35:04,530 --> 00:35:07,000 She said, "Because they're Not taking any calls." 603 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,730 "What do you mean they're Not taking any calls? I'm dying. 604 00:35:09,730 --> 00:35:12,200 I'm fucking dying in here; We're about to fucking drown," 605 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,600 Because I'm here in the water, And I'm sorry for cursing, 606 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,800 But the more I think about it, The more angry I get. 607 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,900 Because I'm like... 608 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,670 "I'm here talking to you, So if you can hear my voice Talking to you, 609 00:35:28,670 --> 00:35:31,330 Then you know a heart must be Beating inside of a body, 610 00:35:31,330 --> 00:35:34,470 Which means there's a life here. So you mean you can't Connect me," 611 00:35:34,470 --> 00:35:37,100 Even though I know, They told me, 612 00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:39,570 "If you stayed, we're not Going to help you." 613 00:35:39,570 --> 00:35:42,230 They told me point blank, Channel after channel 614 00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:45,200 Saying fill your tub Up with water 615 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,000 So you can Flush the damn toilet If you survive this. 616 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,700 Woman on phone: My family and I are Stranded here, 617 00:35:50,700 --> 00:35:53,270 Along with about 100 other Tenants and their families. 618 00:35:53,270 --> 00:35:56,800 The street water-- we have been Monitoring it all day 619 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,330 On the front of gravier-- Is increasingly rising, 620 00:36:00,330 --> 00:36:03,000 And it's now coming Through the lobby door, 621 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,130 And it's filling up The basement. 622 00:36:05,130 --> 00:36:09,430 - ( cries ) - and I expect that our lobby Is going to fill up, 623 00:36:09,430 --> 00:36:11,700 And we have Nowhere to go. 624 00:36:11,700 --> 00:36:14,630 Kevin martin: This is actually the first Pumping station 625 00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:16,500 Built in New Orleans, Right here. 626 00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:19,370 It was built here because this Is the lowest area in the city. 627 00:36:19,370 --> 00:36:21,370 There are about 27 pumping stations, 628 00:36:21,370 --> 00:36:24,030 And we were One of the last ones To shut down here. 629 00:36:24,030 --> 00:36:26,800 When the levee broke, When it got to its Highest point, 630 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,600 It was off the chain. It was off the level up there. 631 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,070 This is 16 feet here. It was much higher, 632 00:36:32,070 --> 00:36:34,330 Because it was Lapped around the back, 633 00:36:34,330 --> 00:36:36,370 And we could Hear it pulling. 634 00:36:36,370 --> 00:36:38,670 Alexander: People was getting reports 635 00:36:38,670 --> 00:36:40,670 That st. Bernard parish Was underwater; 636 00:36:40,670 --> 00:36:44,530 The 9th ward was underwater; New Orleans east was Underwater. 637 00:36:44,530 --> 00:36:46,630 And you could only hear stuff Over the radio. 638 00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:50,970 And you can hear the callers Calling in, like, "I'm stuck In the attic," 639 00:36:50,970 --> 00:36:53,370 You know, "Me and my kids," And it was kind of like, 640 00:36:53,370 --> 00:36:56,100 We was almost safe Inside the superdome, 641 00:36:56,100 --> 00:36:58,800 But we still felt For the people outside. 642 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,730 And you didn't know What was going on. 643 00:37:00,730 --> 00:37:03,430 You didn't know what happened To your family at that time. 644 00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:06,800 Terence blanchard: I turned on the news, And the commentator said 645 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,530 That 80% of New Orleans Is underwater. 646 00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:13,300 And they hadn't shown Any pictures yet. 647 00:37:13,300 --> 00:37:15,300 And I'm still thinking-- When they say 80% 648 00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:17,400 Of the city's underwater, I'm still thinking, 649 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,970 "Okay, they mean like Two feet of water, three feet Of water, something like that. 650 00:37:20,970 --> 00:37:24,470 We're used to that. I grew up With that. Water would come Right up to the doorsill. 651 00:37:24,470 --> 00:37:28,200 We'd sit there and look at it, Make little paper boats and Throw in it, you know? 652 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,170 But, man, I looked around 653 00:37:30,170 --> 00:37:32,970 And I saw there was a picture Of the circle food store. 654 00:37:32,970 --> 00:37:36,400 And the water was Midway to the door. 655 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,730 And I couldn't believe that. And what messed me up About that picture 656 00:37:39,730 --> 00:37:42,370 Was the fact that That was more inland; 657 00:37:42,370 --> 00:37:45,100 That wasn't near the lake, It wasn't near the river. 658 00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:48,630 If the water was that high At the circle food store, 659 00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:51,000 I knew we had a problem In the city. 660 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,170 ( trumpet music continues ) 661 00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:15,700 What you looking at? What you looking at?! 662 00:38:15,700 --> 00:38:18,730 Moses: This is the barge. When it came, 663 00:38:18,730 --> 00:38:21,270 And we thought We were going to die, 664 00:38:21,270 --> 00:38:25,870 And I remember The number: ing4727. 665 00:38:25,870 --> 00:38:29,130 If they would have took That away, I would have Remembered the number 666 00:38:29,130 --> 00:38:31,800 Because I wrote it down And I put it in my pocketbook. 667 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,270 And the couple That lived there, 668 00:38:34,270 --> 00:38:37,100 They couldn't get a boat To get out either. 669 00:38:37,100 --> 00:38:40,530 They're still in there, If they're still there. 670 00:38:40,530 --> 00:38:43,470 They had a man That lived in here. 671 00:38:43,470 --> 00:38:47,330 He tied hisself to beer kegs. They may still be in the yard. 672 00:38:47,330 --> 00:38:51,070 And he floated in the water Just-- for three days. 673 00:38:51,070 --> 00:38:53,070 And I just kept Talking to him, 674 00:38:53,070 --> 00:38:55,830 And telling him, "God's going to make a way. God's going to make a way. 675 00:38:55,830 --> 00:38:57,970 You going to make it." ( sobbing ) 676 00:38:57,970 --> 00:39:02,300 And he would say, "I'm so tired." I said, "I know you're tired." 677 00:39:02,300 --> 00:39:06,200 And I wanted to feed him What I had, but I couldn't Get to him 678 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:07,770 'cause I didn't Know howo swim. 679 00:39:07,770 --> 00:39:11,230 ( singing blues ) 680 00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:08,630 ( chuckles ) 681 00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:11,070 Yep. 682 00:40:11,070 --> 00:40:13,730 St. James infirmary. 683 00:40:13,730 --> 00:40:16,170 St. James Infirmary. 684 00:40:16,170 --> 00:40:19,500 We were vacationing In Italy at the time. 685 00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:22,230 It was on a Monday morning, And the driver picked us up 686 00:40:22,230 --> 00:40:24,330 From our hotel On the amalfi coast, 687 00:40:24,330 --> 00:40:27,630 And said, "Would you Like to go see the ruins Of pompeii?" 688 00:40:27,630 --> 00:40:33,430 And we got in the limousine. They took us over to right up outside of Naples. 689 00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:35,830 You know, it's right across From the bay of Naples? 690 00:40:35,830 --> 00:40:39,570 And Mt. Vesuvius Was in the background. 691 00:40:39,570 --> 00:40:42,970 And that morning, we went in To visit the ruins of pompeii, 692 00:40:42,970 --> 00:40:47,230 And didn't know anything At all about the flood strike In New Orleans. 693 00:40:47,230 --> 00:40:51,800 We saw dead people lined up Back in 66 a.D. 694 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,830 We learned about 6,000 people being 695 00:40:53,830 --> 00:40:57,600 Smothered to death With the ashes of mt. Vesuvius. 696 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,700 We saw all the things That were preserved. 697 00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:03,300 Walked out Of the ruins of pompeii-- And it's most ironic-- 698 00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:06,600 We sat down, having a little Lunch in the little square, 699 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,530 The little town there. And they turned on cnn, 700 00:41:09,530 --> 00:41:12,330 And I could see the flood In New Orleans. 701 00:41:12,330 --> 00:41:16,500 And I think the mayor said Possibility of 10,000 people Drowning. 702 00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:19,630 And, you know, it's quite ironic To be in a place like this 703 00:41:19,630 --> 00:41:23,230 Where the greatest tragedy Ever happened in europe, 704 00:41:23,230 --> 00:41:25,730 And see your own city Being flooded. 705 00:41:25,730 --> 00:41:27,670 We slept that night, And then we decided 706 00:41:27,670 --> 00:41:31,270 To make a move the next Morning to the superdome. 707 00:41:31,270 --> 00:41:35,030 We walked through tonti street, Which is my mother's street, 708 00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:39,400 To esplanade avenue, To claiborne, 709 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,130 Where the circle Food store is. 710 00:41:42,130 --> 00:41:44,970 There's my mom Which is 85, 711 00:41:44,970 --> 00:41:48,530 My daddy which is 84, 712 00:41:48,530 --> 00:41:51,700 Miss emma-- Miss emma's got To be in her 70s. 713 00:41:51,700 --> 00:41:54,500 We had one guy-- 714 00:41:54,500 --> 00:41:56,770 I can't think Of his name right now-- 715 00:41:56,770 --> 00:41:59,970 He had a colostomy bag That needed to be changed. 716 00:41:59,970 --> 00:42:03,130 So we had all these people were Just going to the superdome. 717 00:42:03,130 --> 00:42:06,000 Originally the day After the hurricane 718 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,200 I went walking around Throughout metairie And kenner area. 719 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,030 I went around, 720 00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:15,970 Swam through water-- Some of it was eight feet; 721 00:42:15,970 --> 00:42:19,400 Some of it, you couldn't Touch the bottom. 722 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,670 You'd see the levels At the malls that you knew Were more than 20-feet high, 723 00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:26,570 And the water was Higher than that. 724 00:42:26,570 --> 00:42:30,130 And I waded through to see If there was anybody around, 725 00:42:30,130 --> 00:42:32,770 Anybody anywhere, And there was nothing. 726 00:43:06,170 --> 00:43:10,300 Helicopter pilot: Right now, what we're showing You is memorial hospital here, 727 00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:13,400 West of downtown New Orleans. 728 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,700 We'll show you the parking lot Of the hospital 729 00:43:15,700 --> 00:43:17,900 And give you an idea How deep the water is. 730 00:43:17,900 --> 00:43:20,970 ( woman on phone ) We have some concerned Employees 731 00:43:20,970 --> 00:43:23,230 That want to check On two locations. 732 00:43:23,230 --> 00:43:26,670 - deejay: okay. What are you looking for? - okay. The first one is 733 00:43:26,670 --> 00:43:29,870 - the lakefront area. - I think there's very Little doubt. 734 00:43:29,870 --> 00:43:33,100 - lakefront got a lot of water. - deejay #2: yeah. And especially out there 735 00:43:33,100 --> 00:43:36,170 - in that area By lakefront airport... - help! Help us, someone! 736 00:43:36,170 --> 00:43:39,170 In the New Orleans east Part of the lakefront. 737 00:43:39,170 --> 00:43:43,370 From what we've been hearing A lot of New Orleans east Has been inundated. 738 00:43:43,370 --> 00:43:45,930 Woman: The heights In avondale? 739 00:43:45,930 --> 00:43:49,930 Deejay: Avondale did fairly well As far as the water. 740 00:43:58,830 --> 00:44:01,370 ( helicopter blades Whirring ) 741 00:44:07,500 --> 00:44:10,500 I think the winds had just Died down to a reasonable level, 742 00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:13,370 Where it was Pretty safe to be out. 743 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,470 And I walked Over the bridge 744 00:44:16,470 --> 00:44:20,230 And there was 10, 15, 20 feet of water everywhere. 745 00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:24,430 And you could start to hear The people screaming from The balconies and rooftops. 746 00:44:24,430 --> 00:44:28,000 And we could actually Physically see some of them. 747 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,170 Montana leblanc: A helicopter came by. 748 00:44:30,170 --> 00:44:32,470 He came in the middle Of the complex. 749 00:44:32,470 --> 00:44:35,530 I mean, I'm standing there With a mop stick, 750 00:44:35,530 --> 00:44:39,100 With a towel That I found somewhere, A white towel, 751 00:44:39,100 --> 00:44:42,730 With "S.O.S." And on the back of it, "Help me please." 752 00:44:42,730 --> 00:44:45,100 And I'm waving thithing Like I'm going crazy, 753 00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:47,230 And he looks at me And he does this, 754 00:44:47,230 --> 00:44:49,970 Like get up and go. And they left us! 755 00:44:49,970 --> 00:44:52,730 Oh, yeah, they passed. They were going to the White neighborhood. 756 00:44:52,730 --> 00:44:55,330 They didn't care about me. They were going somewhere else. 757 00:44:55,330 --> 00:44:59,100 I kept trying to flag them Down with-- man, we had lights, Everything to try and stop them. 758 00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:01,400 People did not come. They came here the fourth day. 759 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,800 They gave me some water. I was in a boat-- 760 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,530 They dropped the water so hard, They tried to sink my boat. 761 00:45:07,530 --> 00:45:09,930 I asked for some water; They gave it to me-- 762 00:45:09,930 --> 00:45:11,700 Betcha you don't want it No more. 763 00:45:11,700 --> 00:45:15,370 I will say though, In the backdrop of it all, 764 00:45:15,370 --> 00:45:19,370 And I want to say this, Is that I think that There's one agency 765 00:45:19,370 --> 00:45:22,300 That we should single out For a job well done, 766 00:45:22,300 --> 00:45:24,870 And that's the united states Coast guard. 767 00:45:24,870 --> 00:45:27,630 They moved in very quickly. They were in there on tuesday. 768 00:45:27,630 --> 00:45:29,930 They did numerous 769 00:45:29,930 --> 00:45:32,870 Very difficult helicopter 770 00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:35,270 And boat Rescue operations. 771 00:45:35,270 --> 00:45:37,930 Brinkley: Because the coast guard Threw out the books. 772 00:45:37,930 --> 00:45:41,000 The head Of the coast guard said, "There are no rules here, guys. 773 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,230 This is all Improvation now. Let's go." 774 00:45:43,230 --> 00:45:45,430 For example, Pilots were only supposed 775 00:45:45,430 --> 00:45:48,730 To be able to fly Eight hours a day legally, 776 00:45:48,730 --> 00:45:50,570 Because you have Flight fatigue. 777 00:45:50,570 --> 00:45:52,030 They said, "Screw it. 778 00:45:52,030 --> 00:45:54,670 Go 16 hours." People were going 16 hours, 779 00:45:54,670 --> 00:45:57,100 So the coast guard, Both with their helicopters 780 00:45:57,100 --> 00:46:00,370 And then with boats Could not have done more For their resources. 781 00:46:00,370 --> 00:46:03,200 Seelig: I started noticing That I've got neighbors 782 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,170 All over the place On their roof. 783 00:46:05,170 --> 00:46:07,470 Because I'm on a second story, I can see. 784 00:46:07,470 --> 00:46:09,700 I can see three or four In front of me. 785 00:46:09,700 --> 00:46:14,600 I can hear people yelling And screaming at any given Direction you want to go to. 786 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:15,830 And it was hot. 787 00:46:15,830 --> 00:46:19,400 It was so hot. It was like a 95°-100° 788 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,430 In the shade. The wind never blew. 789 00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:25,130 And they say that New Orleans Has humidity down there 790 00:46:25,130 --> 00:46:29,000 Which kind of cools Us off-- that's bullshit. It was death heat. 791 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,370 Inside of the convention center Was so stifling hot, people Tried to stay outside. 792 00:46:32,370 --> 00:46:34,770 Hot as hell, 100°-something. 793 00:46:34,770 --> 00:46:37,400 - it's hot. - it was very very Hot at that time. 794 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,230 It was 97°, 98°. 795 00:46:40,230 --> 00:46:43,200 - it was hot. - the heat radiating Off the highway, 796 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,570 At night Was intensely hot. 797 00:46:45,570 --> 00:46:48,130 - it's hot as hell. - that was the worst summer. 798 00:46:48,130 --> 00:46:52,200 I mean, that-that was-- That heat was ridiculous. 799 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,070 - hot as heck in here. - it was beyond africa heat. 800 00:46:55,070 --> 00:46:57,170 If africa heat was Anything like that, 801 00:46:57,170 --> 00:46:59,230 Like I said before And I'll say it again, 802 00:46:59,230 --> 00:47:02,330 They keep saying go back To africa-- hell no. 803 00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:06,630 Freeman: for a minute, When I seen the water, I knew we had to get out. 804 00:47:06,630 --> 00:47:09,630 And she said, "Well, why we have to go?" And I explained it to her 805 00:47:09,630 --> 00:47:12,100 That the water was Coming up, rising up. 806 00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:15,270 Because she said we didn't have To leave for hurricane betsy. 807 00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:17,670 I said, "No we didn't, But we got to leave now." 808 00:47:17,670 --> 00:47:22,470 So I had to get a guy That lived in the neighborhood To get someone with a canoe, 809 00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:25,630 A little boat, and I took her And put her in the boat 810 00:47:25,630 --> 00:47:28,200 In her wheelchair. And I had to get her 811 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,130 From the house all the way Till st. Charles avenue 812 00:47:31,130 --> 00:47:33,700 Where the water had Subsided a little bit. 813 00:47:33,700 --> 00:47:37,070 I ain't seen this many boats In the project, bro. 814 00:47:37,070 --> 00:47:39,570 It was like cars, man. I'm telling you, 815 00:47:39,570 --> 00:47:41,800 Everybody in the project Had a boat. 816 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,530 It was like cars, bro. 817 00:47:43,530 --> 00:47:46,870 And we was just going, Get the stuff, helping The people out. 818 00:47:46,870 --> 00:47:49,900 And day by day, We was bringing people To the bridge. 819 00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:52,270 We found some refrigerators, 820 00:47:52,270 --> 00:47:54,700 Opened the tops of them, Put the kids-- 821 00:47:54,700 --> 00:47:56,700 We had an elderly lady Back there 822 00:47:56,700 --> 00:48:00,700 And nicholas my nephew, And another two kids-- I think It was three kids altogether. 823 00:48:00,700 --> 00:48:03,500 We put them In the refrigerator And we floated 824 00:48:03,500 --> 00:48:05,530 To what's called Hayne boulevard, 825 00:48:05,530 --> 00:48:08,030 Which is close To lake pontchartrain. 826 00:48:09,330 --> 00:48:12,970 Morial: There were citizen First responders. 827 00:48:12,970 --> 00:48:16,630 There were people In neighborhoods who were Carrying children 828 00:48:16,630 --> 00:48:20,470 And women and older people Out on their backs, 829 00:48:20,470 --> 00:48:23,570 On their shoulders, Making makeshift rafts. 830 00:48:23,570 --> 00:48:27,130 The sense of sadness And anger that I felt, 831 00:48:27,130 --> 00:48:29,900 To see 832 00:48:29,900 --> 00:48:33,330 The people I love so much In my own community suffering, 833 00:48:33,330 --> 00:48:36,770 And abandoned is just something That will remain with me 834 00:48:36,770 --> 00:48:40,000 Every day of my life. 835 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,130 I got you, I got you. I got you. 836 00:48:42,130 --> 00:48:44,400 - don't go out that way. Don't go-- - which way? 837 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:45,830 - that way. - okay. 838 00:48:45,830 --> 00:48:49,100 Compass: I remember captain timmy bayard Had organized the boats 839 00:48:49,100 --> 00:48:50,930 Because there weren't Any other boats, 840 00:48:50,930 --> 00:48:53,330 So police officers Were using their Personal boats 841 00:48:53,330 --> 00:48:56,830 And boats that we had Commandeered to start the Rescue missions immediately, 842 00:48:56,830 --> 00:49:00,030 Because people were Out there drowning. 843 00:49:00,030 --> 00:49:03,300 And we had a lot of guys Thinking on their feet. 844 00:49:03,300 --> 00:49:06,700 I mean, many people In the police department Acted very heroically. 845 00:49:06,700 --> 00:49:10,000 - great to see you. - I'm glad you're all right. 846 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,570 Brinkley: What was inspiring is People that stayed. 847 00:49:13,570 --> 00:49:17,100 It was all citizens. I mean, people call it "The cajun navy," 848 00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:21,000 Or you call it Just the locals Stepping to the plate, 849 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,630 But a lot of just everyday People were out there, 850 00:49:23,630 --> 00:49:26,870 From all walks of life, Really puttin' their life On the line, 851 00:49:26,870 --> 00:49:29,100 Diving in water, bringing out Particularly 852 00:49:29,100 --> 00:49:31,300 People with alzheimer's And dementia. 853 00:49:32,730 --> 00:49:36,400 Pastor willie walker, jr.: That afternoon with sean penn, 854 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,430 We must have pulled out About 30 or 40 people. 855 00:49:38,430 --> 00:49:41,170 And everybody that we Pulled out, sean made A promise: 856 00:49:41,170 --> 00:49:43,870 "If I can just Get you out of here, I'll take care of you." 857 00:49:43,870 --> 00:49:47,070 I've never seen anything Like it before in my life. 858 00:49:47,070 --> 00:49:50,030 I met sean penn On my sixth day out, 859 00:49:50,030 --> 00:49:51,900 Went up, Boldly talked to him, 860 00:49:51,900 --> 00:49:54,700 And said, "Hey, how you doing? Nice to meet you. 861 00:49:54,700 --> 00:49:56,770 I'm pastor walker. How can I help you here?" 862 00:49:56,770 --> 00:49:59,130 He said, "Well, I'm trying To save some people." 863 00:49:59,130 --> 00:50:02,970 He told us that-- and you'd Have to check with him 864 00:50:02,970 --> 00:50:05,730 If he was Fibbing or not, But it was a good fib, 865 00:50:05,730 --> 00:50:07,970 And I understand Why he told it. 866 00:50:07,970 --> 00:50:11,700 He told us there were 40 children stuck In this one place, 867 00:50:11,700 --> 00:50:14,170 So we went to that place. Really what we were doing is 868 00:50:14,170 --> 00:50:15,730 Checking out His neighborhood. 869 00:50:15,730 --> 00:50:18,300 He was concerned About his people In his congregation. 870 00:50:18,300 --> 00:50:20,800 We came together, Organized, 871 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,500 And we drove from st. Charles To napoleon avenue. 872 00:50:23,500 --> 00:50:25,770 We used that spot As a launch spot, 873 00:50:25,770 --> 00:50:28,530 To go out into the middle Of the city. 874 00:50:28,530 --> 00:50:31,070 It was only after I took his lead 875 00:50:31,070 --> 00:50:33,630 That I was willing to wade 876 00:50:33,630 --> 00:50:36,630 Seven blocks in this stuff, Past a cemetery, 877 00:50:36,630 --> 00:50:40,130 To get to these couple-- He was very driven. 878 00:50:40,130 --> 00:50:42,530 And it was, you know, 879 00:50:42,530 --> 00:50:47,070 It just seemed so poetic That his church was called The noah's ark church. 880 00:50:47,070 --> 00:50:49,430 I live in the 9th ward, Not the lower 9th ward, 881 00:50:49,430 --> 00:50:51,370 But it's still a part Of the 9th ward. 882 00:50:51,370 --> 00:50:54,970 So the day after the storm, The ward had been flooded. 883 00:50:54,970 --> 00:50:59,000 Okay, so we had to stay there Till the rescue boat came. 884 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:04,130 And when the boat came, They took us to I-10 and louisa. 885 00:51:04,130 --> 00:51:07,170 And when we got On the bridge, on I-10, 886 00:51:07,170 --> 00:51:11,230 Everybody was Telling us to walk To the convention center. 887 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,900 Compass: No one knew everyone 888 00:51:16,900 --> 00:51:19,370 Would gravitate To the convention center, 889 00:51:19,370 --> 00:51:22,300 But as people started Dropping people off at The convention center, 890 00:51:22,300 --> 00:51:24,170 Then it just spread Like word of mouth, 891 00:51:24,170 --> 00:51:26,930 And then that area was Kind of high and dry, 892 00:51:26,930 --> 00:51:29,530 As it relates to the area Around the superdome. 893 00:51:29,530 --> 00:51:32,000 So it was easy for people to get To the convention center. 894 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,800 I saw a guy at Convention center boulevard 895 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,570 Who retired from our newspaper, Disabled guy, walks with a cane, 896 00:51:36,570 --> 00:51:40,600 Had diabetes, sitting there In the hot sun for three days. 897 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,100 He was in bad shape. 898 00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:44,430 Man: 20-30,000 people, Just in the streets. 899 00:51:44,430 --> 00:51:47,030 I mean, it was everywhere. People were everywhere. 900 00:51:47,030 --> 00:51:50,130 No food, no water, I mean, The bare necessities. 901 00:51:50,130 --> 00:51:54,200 - what do we get? Nothing. - they won't even bring water; They won't bring food. 902 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,000 Where's fema? Where's the mayor? 903 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,630 My mother is 83 years old. She's in dire need of Her heart medication. 904 00:51:59,630 --> 00:52:03,370 There's no Medical services here. She's on the floor. 905 00:52:03,370 --> 00:52:06,900 She's dying right now. She needs help to get Her out of here. 906 00:52:06,900 --> 00:52:09,030 Freeman: My mother kept Asking me, you know, 907 00:52:09,030 --> 00:52:11,930 Where were we, And I told her we was At the convention center. 908 00:52:11,930 --> 00:52:15,100 She knew a lot of people Was around, but she didn't Know how many. 909 00:52:15,100 --> 00:52:18,230 So I told her, I said, "Ooh, it's a lot of people Out there." 910 00:52:18,230 --> 00:52:21,130 I said everybody's trying To evacuate for the hurricane. 911 00:52:21,130 --> 00:52:23,730 She said, "What they going To do with all these people?" 912 00:52:23,730 --> 00:52:25,900 I said, "They're supposed To have buses coming," 913 00:52:25,900 --> 00:52:28,330 I said, "But I don't see Any buses," which I didn't. 914 00:52:28,330 --> 00:52:31,400 So with all the noise, That was kind of getting To her, you know. 915 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,900 So I kept trying to tell The policeman what was going on, 916 00:52:34,900 --> 00:52:37,700 He told me, he said, "Look, I'll tell you what to do: 917 00:52:37,700 --> 00:52:41,030 Take all this stuff And we gonna roll her outside Way down to the end," 918 00:52:41,030 --> 00:52:43,800 He said, "'cause that's Where the bus is going To be coming. 919 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,200 When the bus comes, She'll be the first to load up." 920 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,830 So I was checking on her And checking on her, 921 00:52:48,830 --> 00:52:52,970 And last time I checked on her, She had asked me was The bus coming yet. 922 00:52:52,970 --> 00:52:55,070 I said "No, the bus Hasn't came yet. 923 00:52:55,070 --> 00:52:57,100 It should be coming Any minute now." 924 00:52:57,100 --> 00:53:01,130 So I sit back down-- I was sitting on the curb; 925 00:53:01,130 --> 00:53:05,670 She was in the wheelchair. So after a while, 926 00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:09,330 She hadn't said nothing For about maybe 10 minutes, 15 minutes. 927 00:53:09,330 --> 00:53:11,600 It looked like she was Asking me questions-- 928 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,200 Looked like every five minutes, Something like that. 929 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,170 So I said, "Well let me see," You know, 930 00:53:16,170 --> 00:53:18,630 'cause it looked like She had fell asleep. 931 00:53:18,630 --> 00:53:20,530 'cause she was Nodding out, you know. 932 00:53:20,530 --> 00:53:22,600 Every so often, She would nod out. 933 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,330 So I seen her With her head down Like she was asleep. 934 00:53:25,330 --> 00:53:29,000 So I went to go shake her And she didn't respond. 935 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,170 So I shook her again; She didn't respond. 936 00:53:31,170 --> 00:53:35,130 And then I said, "Oh lord, It looks like my mom Died out here." 937 00:53:35,130 --> 00:53:38,330 And then, you know, I just waited till Daylight came, 938 00:53:38,330 --> 00:53:42,000 Then another guy was Out there, and he told me, 939 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,800 He said, "Man, we got to put Something over her," you know. 940 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,930 'cause I had like A little towel over her. 941 00:53:46,930 --> 00:53:51,000 He said, "Wait a minute. I might have a blanket Over here by me." 942 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,370 So he went and found the poncho That we throwed over her. 943 00:53:54,370 --> 00:53:56,630 And after we Throwed it over her, 944 00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:59,830 They had someone that was Working at the convention center 945 00:53:59,830 --> 00:54:02,500 Said that when they was Dying like that, 946 00:54:02,500 --> 00:54:06,070 They was pushing them To the side-- 'cause they had Another body back there, 947 00:54:06,070 --> 00:54:08,130 By that doorway I had Pushed her at anyway. 948 00:54:08,130 --> 00:54:10,870 Said you have to push her there, You know, leave here there. 949 00:54:10,870 --> 00:54:13,000 So I didn't want To really do it, 950 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,500 But I had to push her Out the way, do something. 951 00:54:15,500 --> 00:54:17,630 So what I did, I pushed her back there, 952 00:54:17,630 --> 00:54:20,030 And I got a piece of paper, Put her name on it, 953 00:54:20,030 --> 00:54:22,870 My name, My telephone number And everything. 954 00:54:22,870 --> 00:54:26,600 You know, letting them know I was her son, to contact me Whenever they come, 955 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,100 'cause I thought they was Going to put her in, like, 956 00:54:29,100 --> 00:54:31,170 A freezer or something They had back there. 957 00:54:31,170 --> 00:54:34,300 The guy said that The electric was off, The freezer wasn't working. 958 00:54:34,300 --> 00:54:36,970 - that's why they Had them outside. - lee: the bus never came? 959 00:54:36,970 --> 00:54:39,370 Freeman: It never came-- Came four days later. 960 00:54:39,370 --> 00:54:42,300 There's no place where Anyone that was elderly 961 00:54:42,300 --> 00:54:45,830 Or sick or handicapped-- That wasn't no place to be. 962 00:54:45,830 --> 00:54:50,070 Really wasn't no place For anyone to be, Any human being. 963 00:54:50,070 --> 00:54:52,330 British reporter: We're asked to go to a house 964 00:54:52,330 --> 00:54:54,600 Where there are children Without their mother. 965 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,830 We pull the boat to the door. Inside, a daughter explains 966 00:54:57,830 --> 00:55:02,730 - her mother couldn't breathe. - she needed oxygen to breathe. 967 00:55:02,730 --> 00:55:05,870 Boy: She needed oxygen. She ain't had none. 968 00:55:05,870 --> 00:55:09,500 But she didn't have any. 969 00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:12,670 Reporter: In a back bedroom, We find her mother dead. 970 00:55:12,670 --> 00:55:15,470 There are five children, And a neighbor insists 971 00:55:15,470 --> 00:55:17,900 They can't stay in the house In the heavy heat. 972 00:55:17,900 --> 00:55:20,700 And we agree to take Them out in our boat. 973 00:55:20,700 --> 00:55:23,630 See if you can sit Closer to the back. 974 00:55:25,100 --> 00:55:27,200 Damon hewi In the days after Katrina, 975 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,700 Many many of us cried. I'm not afraid to say that. 976 00:55:29,700 --> 00:55:32,700 I cried because I was sad About what I was seeing. 977 00:55:32,700 --> 00:55:35,430 And I cried because people Were losing their lives, 978 00:55:35,430 --> 00:55:37,500 And I cried because There was such chaos, 979 00:55:37,500 --> 00:55:40,730 And I cried because I felt helpless and I didn't Know what I could do. 980 00:55:40,730 --> 00:55:44,330 Woman: I have me and my children; Nothing else matters. 981 00:55:44,330 --> 00:55:47,370 Clothes, all that Is materialistic things; I can get that back. 982 00:55:47,370 --> 00:55:51,330 My life-- I'm just glad We got out alive. 983 00:55:51,330 --> 00:55:54,670 That's all that matters to me, Getting out in one piece. 984 00:55:54,670 --> 00:55:58,500 Montana: When I saw that There were people... 985 00:55:59,630 --> 00:56:02,070 Being treated like animals 986 00:56:02,070 --> 00:56:04,870 In my city-- 987 00:56:04,870 --> 00:56:06,430 It could have been In any city, 988 00:56:06,430 --> 00:56:08,870 I would have been Grief-stricken and Heartbroken-- 989 00:56:08,870 --> 00:56:11,530 But it hurt Even more so 990 00:56:11,530 --> 00:56:15,700 That this was From my hometown, Where all of my generations, 991 00:56:15,700 --> 00:56:20,430 My great-grand-- Great-great-great-grandparents Come from-- 992 00:56:20,430 --> 00:56:23,130 And I was so hurt And devastated 993 00:56:23,130 --> 00:56:27,530 To see human beings Being treated like cattle. 994 00:56:27,530 --> 00:56:30,100 It was like-- When I grew up, 995 00:56:30,100 --> 00:56:33,330 The nickname of New Orleans That I knew 996 00:56:33,330 --> 00:56:35,100 Was not the big easy. 997 00:56:35,100 --> 00:56:38,000 People used to call it "The city that care forgot." 998 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,270 And it was like nobody cared. 999 00:56:41,270 --> 00:56:44,000 Look at how hot he is. He's not waking up very easy. 1000 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,330 I'm not-- This is not about Low-income. 1001 00:56:47,330 --> 00:56:51,000 It's not about rich people, Poor people, it's about people. 1002 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:55,200 Well, I fully understand People wanting things to have Happened yesterday. 1003 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,270 I mean, I understand the anxiety 1004 00:56:58,270 --> 00:57:01,200 Of people on the ground. I can imag-- I just Can't imagine 1005 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,370 What it's like to be Waving a sign that says, "Come and get me now." 1006 00:57:04,370 --> 00:57:08,300 So there is frustration. But I want people to know 1007 00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:10,770 There's a lot of help coming. I don't think anybody 1008 00:57:10,770 --> 00:57:12,630 Anticipated the breach Of the levees. 1009 00:57:12,630 --> 00:57:15,530 My grandmother is a diabetic. She's 76 years old. 1010 00:57:15,530 --> 00:57:17,730 She out of her insulin. What is she going to do? 1011 00:57:17,730 --> 00:57:20,070 She don't know if she's going To live or die. 1012 00:57:20,070 --> 00:57:22,300 We all don't know What we're going to do. 1013 00:57:22,300 --> 00:57:25,470 So we just need Some help and support. 1014 00:57:25,470 --> 00:57:28,130 Blanchard: You have to worry About a country 1015 00:57:28,130 --> 00:57:31,170 That can look 1016 00:57:31,170 --> 00:57:35,130 At a vast number Of mistakes 1017 00:57:35,130 --> 00:57:37,800 That this administration Has made 1018 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,870 That has directly affected People's lives-- 1019 00:57:43,230 --> 00:57:46,270 You have to worry about A country that can look At all of that 1020 00:57:46,270 --> 00:57:48,630 And still not see this guy For who he is. 1021 00:57:48,630 --> 00:57:50,670 I know I'm going To get mail, 1022 00:57:50,670 --> 00:57:52,970 I know I'm going to get Ostracized, 1023 00:57:52,970 --> 00:57:54,870 But you got to say that, 1024 00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:57,170 Because I'm worried About the country. 1025 00:57:57,170 --> 00:57:59,770 When you look At an organization like fema 1026 00:57:59,770 --> 00:58:02,770 That was passing The buck about, you know, 1027 00:58:02,770 --> 00:58:07,130 How to just bring in Normal stuff-- Water, man. 1028 00:58:07,130 --> 00:58:11,230 Water and food, How hard could that be? 1029 00:58:11,230 --> 00:58:14,230 I still haven't heard Any answers about that 1030 00:58:14,230 --> 00:58:17,270 That convinced me 1031 00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:20,670 That it couldn't have Been done differently. 1032 00:58:20,670 --> 00:58:23,070 On the fourth day, 1033 00:58:23,070 --> 00:58:26,100 I was sitting in my office At the refinery, 1034 00:58:26,100 --> 00:58:28,670 And in walks a guy 1035 00:58:28,670 --> 00:58:31,830 And shakes my hand, And I shook his hand. 1036 00:58:31,830 --> 00:58:34,800 The guy said, "Can we help you?" 1037 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,670 I said, "Certainly. Where are you from?" 1038 00:58:37,670 --> 00:58:40,470 "Well," he said, "I'm canadian mounted police. 1039 00:58:40,470 --> 00:58:42,800 We're from vancouver, Canada." 1040 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,630 I said, "How the hell Did you get here?" 1041 00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:47,770 He said, "I come Across the ferry." where was The federal government? 1042 00:58:47,770 --> 00:58:51,600 One of the things that came To my attention very early on 1043 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:56,870 Was how many nations had Extended their... Offers 1044 00:58:56,870 --> 00:58:59,770 To step in And make a difference, Who had resources 1045 00:58:59,770 --> 00:59:04,130 And capacities to lend Assistance immediately To the citizens of the region. 1046 00:59:04,130 --> 00:59:07,630 One of those places Was Venezuela. 1047 00:59:07,630 --> 00:59:10,900 And as a consequence, I went with 15 of my colleagues 1048 00:59:10,900 --> 00:59:14,500 down to Venezuela to have a meeting with Chavez, 1049 00:59:14,500 --> 00:59:17,000 which we had, to discuss particularly 1050 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,970 what he would be able to do to help 1051 00:59:18,970 --> 00:59:22,370 specifically the people of the region of Katrina. 1052 00:59:22,370 --> 00:59:24,470 And while we were at it, To take a look and see 1053 00:59:24,470 --> 00:59:26,600 If there were anything else He could do 1054 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,770 For a host of needy Black people and latino, 1055 00:59:29,770 --> 00:59:32,300 And people of color, And poor people in general 1056 00:59:32,300 --> 00:59:34,100 In the united states Of america 1057 00:59:34,100 --> 00:59:36,400 Who were being wholly Underattended 1058 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,430 By the united states Government, 1059 00:59:38,430 --> 00:59:41,800 And particularly by bush's Will and mandate. 1060 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,570 Reporter: This is the center of one 1061 00:59:43,570 --> 00:59:46,230 Of the great cities Of america-- New Orleans. 1062 00:59:46,230 --> 00:59:47,900 Here we have a virtual Refugee camp 1063 00:59:47,900 --> 00:59:50,800 With thousands Of people waiting For some sort of help: 1064 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,130 Medical, food, water, You name it. 1065 00:59:53,130 --> 00:59:55,330 And then, over there, The police; 1066 00:59:55,330 --> 00:59:58,330 Scores of police officers All concerned 1067 00:59:58,330 --> 01:00:00,900 About one looter Who's in that supermarket. 1068 01:00:00,900 --> 01:00:03,770 Compass: You did have people Breaking into stores, 1069 01:00:03,770 --> 01:00:07,100 Some for survival, And some for some Felonious deeds. 1070 01:00:07,100 --> 01:00:10,030 Thevenot: There seemed to be in general Two classes of looters. 1071 01:00:10,030 --> 01:00:12,130 There were the looters Who were taking things 1072 01:00:12,130 --> 01:00:14,300 That I would think are Very understandable: 1073 01:00:14,300 --> 01:00:16,530 Food, water, clothes, 1074 01:00:16,530 --> 01:00:18,600 Socks, t-shirts, whatever, What have you. 1075 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,270 And then there were People who had, like, 1076 01:00:21,270 --> 01:00:25,100 Assembly-line operations Coming out of the electronics Department. 1077 01:00:25,100 --> 01:00:28,970 You had one guy who also told me They took a 60-inch tv and they Threw it in the water. 1078 01:00:28,970 --> 01:00:31,500 They thought it would float And it sunk to the bottom; 1079 01:00:31,500 --> 01:00:34,870 Which was crazy. You know, one of those Flat-screen tvs? 1080 01:00:34,870 --> 01:00:38,200 They're not really heavy, And I guess he thought he Could float away on it. 1081 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,730 - I mean, it was crazy. - meeks: so we get off On tchoupitoulas, 1082 01:00:40,730 --> 01:00:42,800 And terri troncale, Our editorial page editor, 1083 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,670 Says, "We can go to my house." She lives uptown. 1084 01:00:44,670 --> 01:00:47,270 "Let's go there and set up A base and we'll report From there." 1085 01:00:47,270 --> 01:00:50,230 I head up tchoupitoulas. Before we even get To her house, 1086 01:00:50,230 --> 01:00:52,500 I drive right into The wal-mart looting. 1087 01:00:52,500 --> 01:00:55,870 Thevenot: There was basically Traffic jams at the doors, 1088 01:00:55,870 --> 01:00:58,300 With looters trying To get out with their loot 1089 01:00:58,300 --> 01:01:00,230 And other looters Trying to get in. 1090 01:01:00,230 --> 01:01:02,470 Meeks: So we go in, And we report the story, 1091 01:01:02,470 --> 01:01:05,830 And a couple of My reporters, mike perlstein And brian thevenot, 1092 01:01:05,830 --> 01:01:10,000 Had the guts to walk Right up to these cops and say "What are you doing?" 1093 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:11,530 I'm doing my job. 1094 01:01:11,530 --> 01:01:13,800 Thevenot: Our photographer John mccusker 1095 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,700 Took a picture Of a cop coming out With an armload of dvds, 1096 01:01:16,700 --> 01:01:19,370 Which didn't strike us 1097 01:01:19,370 --> 01:01:21,870 As necessary equipment For the hurricane. 1098 01:01:23,270 --> 01:01:25,670 Meeks: No doubt there was Looting going on in town, 1099 01:01:25,670 --> 01:01:28,400 But that is by far The number one crime That occurred. 1100 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,130 Just as true is that 1101 01:01:31,130 --> 01:01:33,430 The vast vast majority Of people 1102 01:01:33,430 --> 01:01:35,930 Needed help. 1103 01:01:35,930 --> 01:01:38,530 Anchorman: Ed, if you could explain, 1104 01:01:38,530 --> 01:01:40,370 At what point Was it obvious 1105 01:01:40,370 --> 01:01:43,600 That the conditions In the superdome were Deteriorating 1106 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:47,030 To the point that Everybody was going to have To eventually leave? 1107 01:01:47,030 --> 01:01:48,770 Ed: The running water stopped, 1108 01:01:48,770 --> 01:01:50,830 And then no sewer, 1109 01:01:50,830 --> 01:01:54,000 And then with all that Humidity and heat-- 1110 01:01:54,000 --> 01:02:01,430 Body heat, that's creating All that internal humidity In there. 1111 01:02:01,430 --> 01:02:04,770 It's crazy, man. I've seen some strange shit Up in here. 1112 01:02:04,770 --> 01:02:08,530 All the bathrooms got Shit flooding everywhere To the top, man. 1113 01:02:08,530 --> 01:02:10,470 It's nasty already. 1114 01:02:11,930 --> 01:02:14,230 You know, it's been real Crazy up in here, man. 1115 01:02:14,230 --> 01:02:17,200 It was like being in a sewer. It truly was like being In a live sewer. 1116 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,100 Because there was Nowhere else to go. Everything was backed up. 1117 01:02:20,100 --> 01:02:22,270 Things were overflowing. People were hot. 1118 01:02:22,270 --> 01:02:24,370 They were agitated. They were irritated. 1119 01:02:24,370 --> 01:02:26,770 Special needs people Were very very sick. 1120 01:02:26,770 --> 01:02:30,870 As time went on, of course, People who came in died. 1121 01:02:30,870 --> 01:02:32,930 It was a horrific time. 1122 01:02:32,930 --> 01:02:36,400 It was something truly That you never would think Would happen in america. 1123 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:40,270 There was no way For you to take a bath. 1124 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,370 There was no way for you To brush your teeth. 1125 01:02:44,370 --> 01:02:47,970 There was nowhere To change clothes. 1126 01:02:47,970 --> 01:02:50,900 No food. 1127 01:02:50,900 --> 01:02:55,570 So over at the arena They had those little... 1128 01:02:55,570 --> 01:02:58,730 Food that come in the box For the military. 1129 01:02:58,730 --> 01:03:01,570 It was days That we didn't eat. 1130 01:03:01,570 --> 01:03:03,670 No ice; 1131 01:03:03,670 --> 01:03:06,030 No nothing. 1132 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,830 It was deplorable At that-- 1133 01:03:12,830 --> 01:03:14,730 That dome. 1134 01:03:14,730 --> 01:03:16,800 They had this brother Named radio, 1135 01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,530 A kind of big brother, You know, 1136 01:03:19,530 --> 01:03:21,930 He was A spiritual brother too. 1137 01:03:21,930 --> 01:03:25,500 And he started clapping it up, Like for basketball games, 1138 01:03:25,500 --> 01:03:28,400 When the people just Clapping up and warming it up. 1139 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,270 It just was a spirit, It was a big big big spirit, 1140 01:03:31,270 --> 01:03:34,500 And this was one of The proud moments for us. 1141 01:03:34,500 --> 01:03:37,670 Because as we started Clapping it up, 1142 01:03:37,670 --> 01:03:40,330 People just started Shouting out praises. 1143 01:03:40,330 --> 01:03:42,600 It was like, we have To do something. 1144 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:46,000 - ( clapping ) - ( singing gospel song ) 1145 01:03:51,930 --> 01:03:54,270 We went around the dome And we started singing 1146 01:03:54,270 --> 01:03:57,270 "This little light of mine, I'm going to let it shine." 1147 01:03:57,270 --> 01:04:00,230 And to explain it-- It was powerful because It was a sad time, 1148 01:04:00,230 --> 01:04:03,730 And you didn't know What was going to happen, But you only had faith in god. 1149 01:04:03,730 --> 01:04:07,800 And we gave him the glory And we marched around the dome 1150 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,800 And the people was coming From the inside of the dome 1151 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,730 And they was joining in. And after we marched Around one time, 1152 01:04:13,730 --> 01:04:16,000 We go on the outside. At that time, 1153 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,830 I felt the movement, 1154 01:04:17,830 --> 01:04:20,270 Like the civil rights movement. It was real powerful. 1155 01:04:20,270 --> 01:04:22,830 It was like powerful when you Watch a movement like that. 1156 01:04:22,830 --> 01:04:26,270 After that march, Things kind of settled A little bit. 1157 01:04:27,230 --> 01:04:30,600 ( singing continues ) 1158 01:04:40,870 --> 01:04:43,830 ( score playing ) 1159 01:05:19,030 --> 01:05:22,430 Michael seelig: By wednesday, we realized That the floodwaters 1160 01:05:22,430 --> 01:05:25,400 Weren't going To be going down Anytime soon. 1161 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,370 Meanwhile, the across-the-street Neighbor, the cab driver-- 1162 01:05:28,370 --> 01:05:30,030 Well, he'd run out Of food and water 1163 01:05:30,030 --> 01:05:32,230 'cause all his kitchen stuff Was downstairs, 1164 01:05:32,230 --> 01:05:34,130 So he had, like, Half a thing. 1165 01:05:34,130 --> 01:05:35,900 He couldn't make it Anymore, 1166 01:05:35,900 --> 01:05:39,430 So he came busting out Of his house and he Swam across. 1167 01:05:39,430 --> 01:05:41,100 And he just about Didn't make it, 1168 01:05:41,100 --> 01:05:43,030 And I kind of had To jump in a little bit 1169 01:05:43,030 --> 01:05:45,330 And grab him And pull him out. 1170 01:05:45,330 --> 01:05:47,200 Got him hydrated 1171 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,070 With a little bit Of ice I had left, 1172 01:05:49,070 --> 01:05:52,300 Made a cold drink, Got him outside, 1173 01:05:52,300 --> 01:05:56,530 And we were just talking About how crazy this all is, 1174 01:05:56,530 --> 01:05:59,300 And what are We going to do? 1175 01:05:59,300 --> 01:06:01,370 Also, on the radio They were having reports 1176 01:06:01,370 --> 01:06:04,070 That they were rescuing peopl, But they were bringing them 1177 01:06:04,070 --> 01:06:06,070 To the superdome, Or the convention center 1178 01:06:06,070 --> 01:06:09,030 Or they were sticking them On some expressway Ramp somewhere. 1179 01:06:09,030 --> 01:06:11,070 I never did find out Where that was. 1180 01:06:11,070 --> 01:06:13,300 But they were just Saying it was god-awful. 1181 01:06:13,300 --> 01:06:16,100 There were thousands of peopl, They have no food and water. 1182 01:06:16,100 --> 01:06:18,700 There's no police, Or military presence, 1183 01:06:18,700 --> 01:06:21,430 Or something To help and all that. These people are stranded. 1184 01:06:21,430 --> 01:06:23,530 Will chittenden: I heard advertising on-- 1185 01:06:23,530 --> 01:06:25,500 I think it was q93. 1186 01:06:25,500 --> 01:06:28,000 They were advertising that They were doing pickup points 1187 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,030 At various points On I-10 and 210. 1188 01:06:31,030 --> 01:06:34,570 So I got my lantern, A few supplies That I needed, 1189 01:06:34,570 --> 01:06:36,800 And I started swimming Through the water, 1190 01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,200 Wading through the water, To get out to the pickup point. 1191 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,770 I got to the pickup point, 1192 01:06:41,770 --> 01:06:45,130 Where the I-10/210 Split was, 1193 01:06:45,130 --> 01:06:48,030 And they had already had Some commotions going on 1194 01:06:48,030 --> 01:06:50,130 With people a little Fidgety from waiting. 1195 01:06:50,130 --> 01:06:52,400 There were people That had been waiting there 1196 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,330 Since the day After the hurricane. 1197 01:06:54,330 --> 01:06:56,800 I ended up waiting about Six and a half hours 1198 01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,930 Before they finally Got the buses running 1199 01:06:58,930 --> 01:07:01,070 To take people To southern university. 1200 01:07:01,070 --> 01:07:02,800 Let me tell you All something: 1201 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:06,230 You know, we've been On this bridge about Five fucking days. 1202 01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:08,830 British reporter: Most of them are black And poor-- 1203 01:07:08,830 --> 01:07:10,670 America's underclass, 1204 01:07:10,670 --> 01:07:13,700 The real victims of what Has become a human storm. 1205 01:07:13,700 --> 01:07:15,300 Woman: Three whole days... 1206 01:07:15,300 --> 01:07:17,900 Ray Nagin: During the event, Or right after the event, 1207 01:07:17,900 --> 01:07:19,900 We were rescuing Lots of people 1208 01:07:19,900 --> 01:07:22,230 Using lots Of different resources, 1209 01:07:22,230 --> 01:07:25,430 And they would leave people On the interstates 1210 01:07:25,430 --> 01:07:28,930 To go complete the rescue Missions and get other folk. 1211 01:07:28,930 --> 01:07:30,900 For the most part, 1212 01:07:30,900 --> 01:07:33,630 Individuals were left On those interstates 1213 01:07:33,630 --> 01:07:37,370 For several days With little water, Little food. 1214 01:07:37,370 --> 01:07:39,370 We started To get a sense 1215 01:07:39,370 --> 01:07:41,300 From people At the convention center 1216 01:07:41,300 --> 01:07:43,370 And on those interstates 1217 01:07:43,370 --> 01:07:45,800 That they were getting tired Of just sitting. 1218 01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:49,130 So they wanted To walk across the Crescent city connection 1219 01:07:49,130 --> 01:07:51,170 Which is the Mississippi river bridge. 1220 01:07:51,170 --> 01:07:53,800 To meet the buses that Were supposedly coming. 1221 01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,070 So, we started Walking up the highway, 1222 01:07:56,070 --> 01:07:58,970 And we passed All these people. 1223 01:07:58,970 --> 01:08:01,530 And got up towards The bridge. 1224 01:08:01,530 --> 01:08:05,900 And when we were In shouting distance Of the bridge, 1225 01:08:05,900 --> 01:08:09,470 All of a sudden there Was a line of guns Across the bridge. 1226 01:08:09,470 --> 01:08:11,730 We yelled back at them That they told us 1227 01:08:11,730 --> 01:08:13,400 We could walk Out of town. 1228 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,400 And they said, "Turn around." So we're like, 1229 01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,670 - "Okay, men with guns, We turn around now." - yeah. 1230 01:08:17,670 --> 01:08:19,930 It's interesting how things Kind of broke down, 1231 01:08:19,930 --> 01:08:22,100 Because the president Of jefferson parish-- 1232 01:08:22,100 --> 01:08:24,430 We've got parishes here Instead of counties-- 1233 01:08:24,430 --> 01:08:27,530 Declared jefferson parish "Jeffersonia," 1234 01:08:27,530 --> 01:08:30,430 And blatantly said On the radio 1235 01:08:30,430 --> 01:08:32,430 That they were not Going to allow anybody 1236 01:08:32,430 --> 01:08:35,170 From orleans parish to cross The parish line to get out. 1237 01:08:35,170 --> 01:08:37,830 They were going to put Armed police there. 1238 01:08:37,830 --> 01:08:39,970 They were going to turn You back at gunpoint. 1239 01:08:39,970 --> 01:08:42,200 This was jefferson Parish police 1240 01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,600 Lined up with shotguns, 1241 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,630 Would not let us Cross that bridge, Made us go back. 1242 01:08:47,630 --> 01:08:50,270 A guy told me That harry lee said that 1243 01:08:50,270 --> 01:08:52,170 That wasn't His police officer. 1244 01:08:52,170 --> 01:08:54,830 If that wasn't His police officer, I'd like to know who it was. 1245 01:08:54,830 --> 01:08:57,370 People were walking. There were elderly People walking. 1246 01:08:57,370 --> 01:08:59,470 There were people Who were injured. 1247 01:08:59,470 --> 01:09:01,470 There were people Who had driven through, 1248 01:09:01,470 --> 01:09:03,100 Who had been carjacked On the way, 1249 01:09:03,100 --> 01:09:05,670 Just seeking refuge, Who could not get through 1250 01:09:05,670 --> 01:09:07,770 And who were told by Their own government 1251 01:09:07,770 --> 01:09:10,130 That they were Not allowed in. 1252 01:09:10,130 --> 01:09:12,130 The convention center 1253 01:09:12,130 --> 01:09:14,430 Was completely accessible The whole time. 1254 01:09:14,430 --> 01:09:16,630 You come over the bridge And it's right there. 1255 01:09:16,630 --> 01:09:18,600 It's like the manhattan bridge In new york. 1256 01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,400 It's as if people were At metrotech in brooklyn, And people were 1257 01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,870 In manhattan saying, "Can't we just cross the bridge And help those people?" 1258 01:09:24,870 --> 01:09:27,430 And they said, "No, you can't" Well, people are going out. 1259 01:09:27,430 --> 01:09:29,700 Then when the people took The initiative themselves 1260 01:09:29,700 --> 01:09:32,430 To walk out, They were met by 1261 01:09:32,430 --> 01:09:36,000 These redneck ps in gretna Saying, "Turn back." 1262 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,700 I can give you a take On the gretna bridge thing. 1263 01:09:38,700 --> 01:09:40,630 It wasn't An isolated incident. 1264 01:09:40,630 --> 01:09:43,000 I'm going to tell you That during that storm 1265 01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,170 The national media Reported rampant rumors 1266 01:09:45,170 --> 01:09:47,330 That have now turned out Not to be true. 1267 01:09:47,330 --> 01:09:50,100 They were flying all over The place and nobody Could verify them. 1268 01:09:50,100 --> 01:09:52,900 One of the rumors was There was a hostage crisis 1269 01:09:52,900 --> 01:09:55,100 At children's hospital. That wasn't true. 1270 01:09:55,100 --> 01:09:58,000 One of the rumors was that There was a jailbreak, right? 1271 01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:59,470 And that all the guns 1272 01:09:59,470 --> 01:10:01,870 From all the gun stores Had been looted, right? 1273 01:10:01,870 --> 01:10:03,700 So people were terrified. 1274 01:10:03,700 --> 01:10:06,830 African-americans and whites Were terrified on the street. 1275 01:10:06,830 --> 01:10:09,000 So in my estimation, 1276 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,400 That gretna thing Was a way overreaction 1277 01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,430 To rampant rumors That were being pushed 1278 01:10:13,430 --> 01:10:15,530 In the mainstream media. 1279 01:10:15,530 --> 01:10:18,300 They were calling the people Who were trying to cross-- 1280 01:10:18,300 --> 01:10:20,930 They were calling them "Thugs" And in today's language 1281 01:10:20,930 --> 01:10:23,870 We know that when people Are referred to as thugs And looters 1282 01:10:23,870 --> 01:10:26,600 That they are talking-- They were clearly Talking about 1283 01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,970 The african-american citizens Of New Orleans 1284 01:10:28,970 --> 01:10:30,830 Who were trying To escape. 1285 01:10:30,830 --> 01:10:33,230 It was a race thing. I don't know how anyone 1286 01:10:33,230 --> 01:10:34,900 Could see it Anything but that. 1287 01:10:34,900 --> 01:10:37,270 I thought that I lived in america 1288 01:10:37,270 --> 01:10:39,470 Until shortly after Katrina, 1289 01:10:39,470 --> 01:10:42,300 And the crescent city Connection was blocked off 1290 01:10:42,300 --> 01:10:46,700 From people being able To walk freely 1291 01:10:46,700 --> 01:10:49,230 On united states soil. 1292 01:10:49,230 --> 01:10:53,100 Very disheartening, Unacceptable. 1293 01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:55,930 I hope that the lawsuit Is successful 1294 01:10:55,930 --> 01:10:57,730 For all of those involved. 1295 01:10:57,730 --> 01:10:59,700 There is no question 1296 01:10:59,700 --> 01:11:01,730 That the officials There were wrong, 1297 01:11:01,730 --> 01:11:03,230 Absolutely wrong, 1298 01:11:03,230 --> 01:11:05,930 And they need to be Reprimanded accordingly. 1299 01:11:05,930 --> 01:11:07,530 It was unjust. 1300 01:11:07,530 --> 01:11:10,100 It was inhumane And unacceptable. 1301 01:11:10,100 --> 01:11:13,330 British reporter: Late afternoon in the sky Over New Orleans, 1302 01:11:13,330 --> 01:11:16,570 And a moment of life And death is unfolding. 1303 01:11:16,570 --> 01:11:19,670 Here, a helicopter rescue Brings relief. 1304 01:11:19,670 --> 01:11:22,530 A child is plucked From the wreckage-- 1305 01:11:22,530 --> 01:11:25,100 One little life saved. 1306 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,970 Today's evacuees Have survived 1307 01:11:30,970 --> 01:11:33,670 For three days Without food or water. 1308 01:11:33,670 --> 01:11:35,870 Some just stare Into space. 1309 01:11:35,870 --> 01:11:38,200 Everything they knew Is gone. 1310 01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,700 This is now the biggest Domestic relief operation 1311 01:11:40,700 --> 01:11:43,700 By the military In america's history. 1312 01:11:43,700 --> 01:11:45,770 Thousands are making It out of the city. 1313 01:11:45,770 --> 01:11:47,930 Many who couldn't get out In the initial rush 1314 01:11:47,930 --> 01:11:49,630 Have been crowding Onto buses. 1315 01:11:49,630 --> 01:11:52,300 Henry morgan: We wound up underneath That overpass 1316 01:11:52,300 --> 01:11:55,000 With a handful 1317 01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,830 Of not niggers, But animals. 1318 01:11:58,830 --> 01:12:01,770 They were dead set on A handful of people leaving. 1319 01:12:01,770 --> 01:12:04,830 They jammed us up against The fences and everything else 1320 01:12:04,830 --> 01:12:06,800 To keep us From being evacuated. 1321 01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:08,830 I really thought I was going to die Under there. 1322 01:12:08,830 --> 01:12:10,700 I thought that I was going to die. 1323 01:12:10,700 --> 01:12:13,070 I thought I was Going to be killed Or something else. 1324 01:12:13,070 --> 01:12:15,800 There was fighting. There was drugs. There was alcohol. 1325 01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,700 There was everything Going on there, 1326 01:12:17,700 --> 01:12:20,800 And there was not enough People to take care Of the people. 1327 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,800 The first time I came Back to New Orleans 1328 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,630 Was the thursday After Katrina. 1329 01:12:24,630 --> 01:12:27,170 And, like everyone, We were 1330 01:12:27,170 --> 01:12:30,230 Not sure what to expect, 1331 01:12:30,230 --> 01:12:32,070 So we were Sort of loaded-- 1332 01:12:32,070 --> 01:12:34,770 .9mm, shotguns, The whole thing. 1333 01:12:34,770 --> 01:12:37,070 Spike lee: How many guns do you have? 1334 01:12:37,070 --> 01:12:40,530 I had a .9mm And two shotguns. 1335 01:12:40,530 --> 01:12:43,100 But all I had to do Was get to the house And I had a couple more. 1336 01:12:43,100 --> 01:12:47,030 - and-- - yo, were you looking For bin laden? 1337 01:12:47,030 --> 01:12:50,530 ( laughs ) No, I wasn't, 1338 01:12:50,530 --> 01:12:52,930 But I wasn't sure what I was going to find here. 1339 01:12:52,930 --> 01:12:56,330 I mean, it was like I drove Into shootin' and lootin' 1340 01:12:56,330 --> 01:12:58,730 And carrying on, And the buildings were burning. 1341 01:12:58,730 --> 01:13:00,970 I could see the dome, And the dome-- 1342 01:13:00,970 --> 01:13:03,970 The roof was ripped Off of it. 1343 01:13:03,970 --> 01:13:06,070 The hotels and businesses, The high-rises 1344 01:13:06,070 --> 01:13:08,970 All had the curtains Blowing out and the Windows went in. 1345 01:13:08,970 --> 01:13:12,200 There was A church's chicken Down the corner. 1346 01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,630 It looked like It was on fire. 1347 01:13:14,630 --> 01:13:16,600 I kind of stopped 1348 01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:18,370 In the middle Of the neutral ground. 1349 01:13:18,370 --> 01:13:21,400 You take that in, Because you're just Not ready for that. 1350 01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,430 You're just not ready To think, you know, 1351 01:13:23,430 --> 01:13:25,470 "It's all screwed up." 1352 01:13:25,470 --> 01:13:27,430 And while I was there, 1353 01:13:27,430 --> 01:13:29,230 They had some kids Coming over, 1354 01:13:29,230 --> 01:13:31,170 And they managed To grab the car door, 1355 01:13:31,170 --> 01:13:32,670 And they were Opening it up. 1356 01:13:32,670 --> 01:13:35,470 I didn't see it Because I was too busy Looking there, 1357 01:13:35,470 --> 01:13:38,230 But my dog saw it, And he jumps over me, 1358 01:13:38,230 --> 01:13:40,370 And he just flipping out-- ( mimics barking ) 1359 01:13:40,370 --> 01:13:42,730 Complaining, Barking and growling. 1360 01:13:42,730 --> 01:13:45,600 I think it scared him. Because I turned around And I looked 1361 01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:47,600 And there was like Four or five kids, 1362 01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,570 And they had pipes And everything else. 1363 01:13:49,570 --> 01:13:51,970 I think they were getting in On all that crazy. 1364 01:13:51,970 --> 01:13:54,030 Darnnell herrington: We were walking down The street, 1365 01:13:54,030 --> 01:13:56,000 Which is in algiers, 1366 01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,600 And I'm talking to my cousin. 1367 01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,270 I had a bottle Of water in my hand. I'm talking to him, 1368 01:14:01,270 --> 01:14:03,330 And we're talking About different things 1369 01:14:03,330 --> 01:14:06,500 And before you know it, I heard a boom, a blast. 1370 01:14:06,500 --> 01:14:08,900 - ( gunshot ) - my body lifted up in the air 1371 01:14:08,900 --> 01:14:10,830 And I hit the ground. 1372 01:14:10,830 --> 01:14:13,630 My cousin, he was Standing over me, 1373 01:14:13,630 --> 01:14:16,000 He was hollering-- 1374 01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:19,470 He was hollering my name And asking me if I was okay. 1375 01:14:19,470 --> 01:14:23,070 He was hysterical At this time. 1376 01:14:23,070 --> 01:14:25,100 He was looking At the blood 1377 01:14:25,100 --> 01:14:27,330 On my shirt and my arms. 1378 01:14:27,330 --> 01:14:29,400 I looked up And I saw a white guy, 1379 01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,630 With a white t-shirt, 1380 01:14:31,630 --> 01:14:33,830 With a shotgun in his hand, Coming toward me. 1381 01:14:33,830 --> 01:14:36,600 So I managed to get up-- Like I said, 1382 01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,600 By the grace of god, I managed to get up, 1383 01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,770 And they had some debris In the street. 1384 01:14:40,770 --> 01:14:43,570 So when I turned away From the guy, 1385 01:14:43,570 --> 01:14:45,600 He coming toward me With the shotgun, 1386 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:47,570 It looked like he was Trying to reload. 1387 01:14:47,570 --> 01:14:50,700 So as I turned away from him, I jumped over the debris 1388 01:14:50,700 --> 01:14:52,670 And I heard Another bang. 1389 01:14:52,670 --> 01:14:54,600 Yeah, some of the buckshots 1390 01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:56,900 Caught me in my back And I hit the ground again. 1391 01:14:56,900 --> 01:14:58,830 And, uh, this is, uh-- 1392 01:14:58,830 --> 01:15:02,300 This is the buckshots From the shotgun. 1393 01:15:02,300 --> 01:15:05,800 This is the incision From the surgery. 1394 01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:09,570 From the buckshots That penetrated my neck 1395 01:15:09,570 --> 01:15:11,530 And hit my jugular vein. 1396 01:15:11,530 --> 01:15:14,230 Usually, Disasters like this 1397 01:15:14,230 --> 01:15:17,530 Bring out the best In everybody, 1398 01:15:17,530 --> 01:15:19,830 And that's what We expected to see. 1399 01:15:19,830 --> 01:15:21,800 Now we've got people 1400 01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:23,800 That it's bringing out The worst in. 1401 01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,000 And we're going to restore Law and order. 1402 01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,130 We are not going to put up 1403 01:15:28,130 --> 01:15:30,470 With the kinds of things That we have heard. 1404 01:15:30,470 --> 01:15:33,600 These troops know how To shoot and kill, 1405 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:37,400 And they are More than willing To do so if necessary. 1406 01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,370 And I expect they will. 1407 01:15:39,370 --> 01:15:42,600 Kathleen blanco: We never could find Clear evidence 1408 01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,570 That the city was Totally out of control. 1409 01:15:45,570 --> 01:15:48,800 We know there was Some looting going on. 1410 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:52,200 We knew that there was A little bit of that activity. 1411 01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,230 I kept trying To get information, 1412 01:15:55,230 --> 01:15:57,800 Solid information Through the state police. 1413 01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,770 That's the law enforcement Agency that I depend on. 1414 01:16:00,770 --> 01:16:02,430 They were here. 1415 01:16:02,430 --> 01:16:04,530 They were working With the city police, 1416 01:16:04,530 --> 01:16:07,770 And they could not Verify those reports. 1417 01:16:07,770 --> 01:16:10,330 ( on bullhorn ) We've got food and water On the way 1418 01:16:10,330 --> 01:16:12,030 ...Our lives... 1419 01:16:12,030 --> 01:16:14,030 I've got this Food and water Here for you. 1420 01:16:14,030 --> 01:16:16,170 We've got medical Attention on the way. 1421 01:16:16,170 --> 01:16:19,270 We're gonna do Everything we can to Keep you out here safe. 1422 01:16:19,270 --> 01:16:22,830 What I'm trying to do Right now is save People's lives. 1423 01:16:22,830 --> 01:16:25,530 I'm trying to get People out of this Convention center. 1424 01:16:25,530 --> 01:16:29,400 I don't get involved With the bureaucracy Because I'm a police chief. 1425 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,070 I am someone who tries To protect and serve 1426 01:16:32,070 --> 01:16:33,830 The citizens of this city. 1427 01:16:33,830 --> 01:16:38,070 I need somebody To get me a cruise boat, Or some type of boat, 1428 01:16:38,070 --> 01:16:40,070 A cruise ship, Or some kind of ship, 1429 01:16:40,070 --> 01:16:43,400 So I can put my people In some comfort, so I Can help the people. 1430 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:46,100 We have people In here who have Lost their families, 1431 01:16:46,100 --> 01:16:48,200 And they have not Gotten out of this fight. 1432 01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,270 I didn't know where My daughter was at for Two days and we endured. 1433 01:16:51,270 --> 01:16:53,630 I'm so tired of this, But it's finally Almost over. 1434 01:16:53,630 --> 01:16:55,500 That's it. I don't want To talk no more. 1435 01:16:55,500 --> 01:16:57,570 Trymaine lee: I'll tell you about Eddie compass. 1436 01:16:57,570 --> 01:16:59,500 This dude is from The lafitte housing projects. He's a street cop. 1437 01:16:59,500 --> 01:17:01,300 And he's a very Emotional type of dude, 1438 01:17:01,300 --> 01:17:03,270 And when you talk to him, He gets amped up. 1439 01:17:03,270 --> 01:17:05,070 I think his emotions-- 1440 01:17:05,070 --> 01:17:07,300 I think he was just emotional Under the circumstances. 1441 01:17:07,300 --> 01:17:09,570 This is his city. His wife was eight And a half months pregnant. 1442 01:17:09,570 --> 01:17:11,270 He got caught up In the whirlwind, 1443 01:17:11,270 --> 01:17:13,370 And I guess he lost Some of his composure. 1444 01:17:13,370 --> 01:17:16,300 What eddie was trying to do Was tell the truth 1445 01:17:16,300 --> 01:17:18,800 Because there had been-- Nobody trusted the police. 1446 01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,870 His view was, "I'll tell you everything You want to hear." 1447 01:17:21,870 --> 01:17:24,070 Unfortunately, He was spreading rumors 1448 01:17:24,070 --> 01:17:27,170 And started becoming A celebrity and media star. 1449 01:17:27,170 --> 01:17:30,970 And couldn't-- loved to be On with doctor phil And oprah winfrey, 1450 01:17:30,970 --> 01:17:34,130 And on those programs He would exaggerate The problems, 1451 01:17:34,130 --> 01:17:37,870 Such as Hundreds of helicopters Being shot at by looters 1452 01:17:37,870 --> 01:17:39,630 And babies being raped In the superdome. 1453 01:17:39,630 --> 01:17:42,370 And that's the scene They kept showing-- "They're raping babies!" 1454 01:17:42,370 --> 01:17:44,030 That just didn't happen. 1455 01:17:44,030 --> 01:17:45,930 Now I don't know Why he was doing that. 1456 01:17:45,930 --> 01:17:48,800 Maybe it to draw attention To how much the city Needed help, 1457 01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,970 But it had a very negative Impact on our city. 1458 01:17:51,970 --> 01:17:54,230 I've got family All over the place 1459 01:17:54,230 --> 01:17:56,130 And they're contacting Me via e-mail. 1460 01:17:56,130 --> 01:17:59,600 They think like this is The end of civilization Down there. 1461 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,400 There was reports of rapes, And children being raped. 1462 01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,730 And I even got a report At the ritz-carlton 1463 01:18:05,730 --> 01:18:07,830 Where my daughter Was a concierge 1464 01:18:07,830 --> 01:18:10,170 That my daughter was raped, And it tore me up. 1465 01:18:10,170 --> 01:18:13,000 What happened was Some individuals 1466 01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,170 Tried to break Into the hyatt regency-- 1467 01:18:15,170 --> 01:18:17,130 I'm sorry, To the ritz-carlton, 1468 01:18:17,130 --> 01:18:19,730 But the police were there And they fought them back 1469 01:18:19,730 --> 01:18:21,370 And so my daughter Wasn't harmed. 1470 01:18:21,370 --> 01:18:23,300 But by the time Word got back to me, 1471 01:18:23,300 --> 01:18:26,970 You tell one person Who tells one person, Who tells one person-- 1472 01:18:26,970 --> 01:18:29,670 And the person that relayed The information to me, 1473 01:18:29,670 --> 01:18:31,670 They were so distraught When they told me, 1474 01:18:31,670 --> 01:18:34,100 I just thought they Were telling the truth. 1475 01:18:34,100 --> 01:18:35,670 It was really difficult. 1476 01:18:35,900 --> 01:18:37,800 And I guess in hindsight-- 1477 01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,170 I guess I heightened People's fears 1478 01:18:40,170 --> 01:18:42,230 By me being The superintendent Of police 1479 01:18:42,230 --> 01:18:44,700 Reporting these things That were reported to me, 1480 01:18:44,700 --> 01:18:47,630 But there was Really no way for me To check definitively. 1481 01:18:47,630 --> 01:18:50,670 So instead of erring On the side of caution, Saying nothing, 1482 01:18:50,670 --> 01:18:54,030 I didn't want people To think that we were trying To cover anything up, 1483 01:18:54,030 --> 01:18:56,770 So I reported these things Without them being Substantiated 1484 01:18:56,770 --> 01:18:59,800 And it caused A lot of problems. 1485 01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:02,300 I'm not looking forward To this trip. 1486 01:19:02,300 --> 01:19:04,800 I got a feel for it When I flew over before. 1487 01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,300 For those who have not-- Can't poss-- 1488 01:19:07,300 --> 01:19:10,100 Trying to conceive What we're talking about, 1489 01:19:10,100 --> 01:19:14,400 It's as if the entire Gulf coast were obliterated 1490 01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:16,500 By the worst kind of weapon You can imagine. 1491 01:19:16,500 --> 01:19:19,800 Brinkley: You had to have Your heart broken 1492 01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:21,770 If you love this country 1493 01:19:21,770 --> 01:19:24,370 And watched the slow federal Response to Katrina. 1494 01:19:24,370 --> 01:19:25,970 You had the specter 1495 01:19:25,970 --> 01:19:28,500 Of the president Of the united states seeming-- 1496 01:19:28,500 --> 01:19:30,430 First off, he was totally Not curious. 1497 01:19:30,430 --> 01:19:33,870 He goes to san diego And gives a speech on iraq, 1498 01:19:33,870 --> 01:19:37,430 Comparing it to japan After world war ii. 1499 01:19:37,430 --> 01:19:39,470 And barely Mentions Katrina, 1500 01:19:39,470 --> 01:19:44,130 And then starts doing A giddy air guitar skit On the stage there... 1501 01:19:44,130 --> 01:19:46,930 ...Which is almost like Pouring salt in the wound. 1502 01:19:46,930 --> 01:19:50,130 And then when he Finally addressed it, 1503 01:19:50,130 --> 01:19:51,970 He said that he had Not been informed. 1504 01:19:51,970 --> 01:19:55,030 First of all, The government did know, 1505 01:19:55,030 --> 01:19:57,900 Had been amply warned By agencies, 1506 01:19:57,900 --> 01:20:00,330 By people who Are meteorologists, 1507 01:20:00,330 --> 01:20:03,530 People who study Weather patterns, 1508 01:20:03,530 --> 01:20:05,500 That this catastrophe 1509 01:20:05,500 --> 01:20:08,000 Was headed towards The gulf region, 1510 01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,530 And that it had The capacity to be bigger 1511 01:20:10,530 --> 01:20:13,070 Than anything else The region had ever Experienced. 1512 01:20:13,070 --> 01:20:15,530 Max mayfield: Everyone, let's go ahead and Get started. It's noon. 1513 01:20:15,530 --> 01:20:17,600 We have a lot of Business to cover today. 1514 01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,900 If the really Strong winds 1515 01:20:19,900 --> 01:20:22,000 Clip lake pontchartrain, 1516 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,630 That's going To pile some of that water From lake pontchartrain, 1517 01:20:24,630 --> 01:20:26,900 Over on the south side Of the lake. 1518 01:20:26,900 --> 01:20:30,600 I don't think anyone Can tell you with any Confidence right now 1519 01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:32,830 Whether the levees Will be topped or not, 1520 01:20:32,830 --> 01:20:36,470 But that's obviously A very very grave concern. 1521 01:20:36,470 --> 01:20:39,230 I do want to thank The good folks in the offices 1522 01:20:39,230 --> 01:20:41,530 Of Louisiana And alabama and mississippi 1523 01:20:41,530 --> 01:20:43,300 For listening To these warnings 1524 01:20:43,300 --> 01:20:46,200 And preparing Your citizens for-- 1525 01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,330 This, uh-- 1526 01:20:48,330 --> 01:20:51,970 This, uh-- Huge storm. 1527 01:20:51,970 --> 01:20:53,770 So there was Information. 1528 01:20:53,770 --> 01:20:56,370 Why the government Of the united states, 1529 01:20:56,370 --> 01:21:00,270 And particularly bush, Decided not to respond, 1530 01:21:00,270 --> 01:21:02,100 Not to pay attention To that, 1531 01:21:02,100 --> 01:21:05,770 I think was based Upon a host of reasons. 1532 01:21:05,770 --> 01:21:07,830 First of all, The arrogance of power. 1533 01:21:07,830 --> 01:21:10,830 Huge arrogance on the part Of the government. 1534 01:21:10,830 --> 01:21:13,630 It didn't mean that much To other things 1535 01:21:13,630 --> 01:21:15,500 That were capturing His attention 1536 01:21:15,500 --> 01:21:18,200 And that he thought Was far more important. 1537 01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:19,900 And when it did Finally happen, 1538 01:21:19,900 --> 01:21:21,930 He just felt That the people 1539 01:21:21,930 --> 01:21:24,570 Who were caught In this terrible tragedy 1540 01:21:24,570 --> 01:21:27,800 Were, first of all, Socially of no importance, 1541 01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:31,600 And certainly racially Of no importance as well. 1542 01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,700 There are going to be Plenty of opportunities To help later on. 1543 01:21:34,700 --> 01:21:37,200 But right now The immediate concern Is to save lives 1544 01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,400 And get food and medicine To people 1545 01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:42,100 So we can stabilize The situation. 1546 01:21:42,100 --> 01:21:43,770 Again, I want to Thank you all for-- 1547 01:21:43,770 --> 01:21:45,570 And brownie, you're doing A heck of a job. 1548 01:21:45,570 --> 01:21:47,070 --and brownie, You're doing a heck Of a job. 1549 01:21:47,070 --> 01:21:49,070 --and brownie, you're doing A heck of a job. 1550 01:21:49,070 --> 01:21:52,130 Calvin mackie: I'll never forget Turning on the television 1551 01:21:52,130 --> 01:21:54,000 And seeing interviews 1552 01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,170 When george bush Was saying, 1553 01:21:56,170 --> 01:21:59,300 "Good job, brownie." And then they flipped To the screen 1554 01:21:59,300 --> 01:22:00,730 With george bush Flying over, 1555 01:22:00,730 --> 01:22:03,030 Looking out Of the airplane 1556 01:22:03,030 --> 01:22:05,770 At the devastation below. 1557 01:22:05,770 --> 01:22:08,630 He needed to have put His boot heels on the ground, 1558 01:22:08,630 --> 01:22:10,230 To have touched The floodwaters, 1559 01:22:10,230 --> 01:22:12,030 To have smelled The death. 1560 01:22:12,030 --> 01:22:14,730 Lyndon johnson, in 1965, 1561 01:22:14,730 --> 01:22:17,830 Came down to the 9th ward, 1562 01:22:17,830 --> 01:22:21,370 And in the pitch Blackness of night In his awkward texas way, 1563 01:22:21,370 --> 01:22:23,630 Had a big old Flashlight with him. 1564 01:22:23,630 --> 01:22:25,830 He went out there And put a flashlight on And said, 1565 01:22:25,830 --> 01:22:28,130 "This is your president. I am here." 1566 01:22:28,130 --> 01:22:30,500 In some ways, That's a funny l.B.J. Story, 1567 01:22:30,500 --> 01:22:32,870 But what johnson was Saying is, "We care. 1568 01:22:32,870 --> 01:22:34,500 I represent The american people. 1569 01:22:34,500 --> 01:22:36,370 You may have lost Your home, 1570 01:22:36,370 --> 01:22:38,570 You may have lost all Your heirlooms, 1571 01:22:38,570 --> 01:22:40,630 But we care. You mean something to us." 1572 01:22:40,630 --> 01:22:42,600 How could it be That in a country 1573 01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:45,370 That is supposedly The richest country In the world, 1574 01:22:45,370 --> 01:22:47,570 Where the 82nd airborne Are prepared to be 1575 01:22:47,570 --> 01:22:50,970 Anywhere in the world In a day and a half, 1576 01:22:50,970 --> 01:22:55,270 Where we were In the region of sri lanka 1577 01:22:55,270 --> 01:22:57,930 When the tsunami hit In less than two days, 1578 01:22:57,930 --> 01:22:59,970 Here we are-- Day four, day five-- 1579 01:22:59,970 --> 01:23:03,130 And the federal government Still had not made it To New Orleans? 1580 01:23:03,130 --> 01:23:05,030 Soledad o'brien: You were unaware Of the situation 1581 01:23:05,030 --> 01:23:07,030 At the convention center Until yesterday. 1582 01:23:07,030 --> 01:23:09,330 When yesterday Did you become aware? 1583 01:23:09,330 --> 01:23:11,700 Michael brown: I think it was Yesterday morning 1584 01:23:11,700 --> 01:23:13,670 When we first found out About it. 1585 01:23:13,670 --> 01:23:15,970 We were just as surprised As everybody else. 1586 01:23:15,970 --> 01:23:19,470 We didn't know that The city had used that As a staging area. 1587 01:23:19,470 --> 01:23:23,230 That shows how difficult Communications are. 1588 01:23:23,230 --> 01:23:26,330 Fema has been on The ground for four days Going into the fifth day. 1589 01:23:26,330 --> 01:23:30,600 Why no massive airdrop Of food and water? 1590 01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:34,030 In banda aceh in indonesia, They got a food drop 1591 01:23:34,030 --> 01:23:36,030 Two days after The tsunami struck. 1592 01:23:36,030 --> 01:23:38,700 We're feeding those people In the convention center. 1593 01:23:38,700 --> 01:23:41,100 We have fed Over 150,000 people 1594 01:23:41,100 --> 01:23:43,300 As of last night. That is happening. 1595 01:23:43,300 --> 01:23:46,470 - soledad o'brien: the point Is as of last night-- - you're witnessing-- 1596 01:23:46,470 --> 01:23:48,470 Forgive me, I have To stop you here. 1597 01:23:48,470 --> 01:23:50,930 What we are hearing Is people's frustration. 1598 01:23:50,930 --> 01:23:53,500 There are people beginning To manifest themselves 1599 01:23:53,500 --> 01:23:55,830 Out of the community We didn't know were there. 1600 01:23:55,830 --> 01:23:57,870 Why are you discovering This now? 1601 01:23:57,870 --> 01:24:00,170 It's five days that fema's Been on the ground. 1602 01:24:00,170 --> 01:24:02,400 The head of police Says it's been five days 1603 01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:03,930 That fema's been there. 1604 01:24:03,930 --> 01:24:05,430 The mayor, The former mayor, 1605 01:24:05,430 --> 01:24:08,170 Putting out s.O.S.S On tuesday morning, 1606 01:24:08,170 --> 01:24:09,930 Crying on national Television, 1607 01:24:09,930 --> 01:24:12,500 Saying, "Please send in Some troops." 1608 01:24:12,500 --> 01:24:14,700 So the idea that-- Yes, I understand that 1609 01:24:14,700 --> 01:24:17,600 You're feeding people And trying to get In there now, 1610 01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,570 But it's Friday. It's Friday. 1611 01:24:19,570 --> 01:24:23,270 It was baffling to me How you could have, 1612 01:24:23,270 --> 01:24:26,030 What was at point a sort Of official estimate 1613 01:24:26,030 --> 01:24:28,600 Of 50,000 people At the convention center, 1614 01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:31,870 And not know about it, And have no idea. 1615 01:24:31,870 --> 01:24:35,270 The other thing that Was surprising to me 1616 01:24:35,270 --> 01:24:39,270 Was that he seemed To have no intelligence. 1617 01:24:39,270 --> 01:24:41,230 At one point I said, 1618 01:24:41,230 --> 01:24:43,430 "How can we have better Intel than you have? 1619 01:24:43,430 --> 01:24:46,430 Because I have A research file 1620 01:24:46,430 --> 01:24:49,970 Prepared by my 23-year-old Research assistant, 1621 01:24:49,970 --> 01:24:51,630 My production assistant, 1622 01:24:51,630 --> 01:24:54,530 And I'm getting Better intelligence Than you're getting? 1623 01:24:54,530 --> 01:24:56,830 How is that possible?" It was really baffling. 1624 01:24:56,830 --> 01:25:01,130 It was really one Of the more baffling Interviews, 1625 01:25:01,130 --> 01:25:03,200 Because they seemed so 1626 01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,430 Out-of-touch With the reality 1627 01:25:06,430 --> 01:25:09,830 That I think a lot of people Had been watching day After day after day. 1628 01:25:09,830 --> 01:25:13,700 Brinkley: Michael brown is kind of A valet for the oil lobby. 1629 01:25:13,700 --> 01:25:17,730 His specialty was doing Junkets for the oil crowd. 1630 01:25:17,730 --> 01:25:20,530 He'd get them a hunting Lodge up in wyoming. 1631 01:25:20,530 --> 01:25:24,200 Where they could have two Perfect weeks to get away. 1632 01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:28,000 So he slowly worked his way Up the ladder in that way. 1633 01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,430 He was given fema Which is like giving somebody 1634 01:25:31,430 --> 01:25:33,430 The ambassadorship To luxembourg 1635 01:25:33,430 --> 01:25:35,430 Or something As a patronage. 1636 01:25:35,430 --> 01:25:37,930 Who knew that bush had Appointed the head 1637 01:25:37,930 --> 01:25:41,370 Of the arabian horse Association to run fema? 1638 01:25:41,370 --> 01:25:42,900 New Orleans was On the hit list 1639 01:25:42,900 --> 01:25:45,330 Of three worst Disaster zones-- 1640 01:25:45,330 --> 01:25:48,400 A terrorist attack in new yor, Earthquake-- san francisco, 1641 01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,230 Breached levees In New Orleans. 1642 01:25:50,230 --> 01:25:53,170 Instead fema And homeland security 1643 01:25:53,170 --> 01:25:55,300 Treated the hurricane 1644 01:25:55,300 --> 01:25:57,300 As if the levees Never breached. 1645 01:25:57,300 --> 01:25:59,130 They never understood 1646 01:25:59,130 --> 01:26:02,870 The complexities Of a city 80% underwater, 1647 01:26:02,870 --> 01:26:06,300 Which is what happened To New Orleans by the end Of that first week. 1648 01:26:06,300 --> 01:26:08,230 Michael brown, 1649 01:26:08,230 --> 01:26:10,830 And I never thought I'd live to see this day-- 1650 01:26:10,830 --> 01:26:13,170 To defend michael brown, But he was scapegoated. 1651 01:26:13,170 --> 01:26:15,370 Because michael brown Was not the main problem. 1652 01:26:15,370 --> 01:26:17,370 It was michael chertoff Who was the head 1653 01:26:17,370 --> 01:26:19,230 Of the department Of homeland security. 1654 01:26:19,230 --> 01:26:21,270 Chertoff had The responsibility 1655 01:26:21,270 --> 01:26:24,200 To name this an incident Of national significance. 1656 01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,970 Once he did that, That was the golden key 1657 01:26:26,970 --> 01:26:29,600 To unlock federal Resources to make sure 1658 01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,300 That the federal government Would respond to a disaster. 1659 01:26:32,300 --> 01:26:35,270 Since he didn't do that, Michael brown's hands were tied. 1660 01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:37,130 In the bush administration, 1661 01:26:37,130 --> 01:26:38,670 If you go through Each one of them, 1662 01:26:38,670 --> 01:26:42,030 And say, "Where were you When the golden hour came? 1663 01:26:42,030 --> 01:26:44,100 Dick cheney? Fly fishing. 1664 01:26:44,100 --> 01:26:46,830 Karl rove? Nowhere around. 1665 01:26:46,830 --> 01:26:49,470 You have chertoff Going to atlanta 1666 01:26:49,470 --> 01:26:52,130 On a disease Prevention kick. 1667 01:26:52,130 --> 01:26:54,300 You see condoleezza rice Shopping. 1668 01:26:54,300 --> 01:26:56,600 Dyson: What was dr. Condoleezza Rice doing 1669 01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:58,130 That looked very poorly? 1670 01:26:58,130 --> 01:27:01,970 She was at ferragamo's Buying shoes. 1671 01:27:01,970 --> 01:27:03,870 I think a white patron Came up to her-- 1672 01:27:03,870 --> 01:27:05,330 Maybe a white woman, And said, 1673 01:27:05,330 --> 01:27:08,400 "How dare you?! While people Are down there drowning!" 1674 01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:10,770 It was like The sandman hook. Whoop! 1675 01:27:10,770 --> 01:27:12,770 She got pulled off, Brother, 1676 01:27:12,770 --> 01:27:14,330 That was A mini-apollo stage, 1677 01:27:14,330 --> 01:27:15,830 And she wasn't Hitting it. 1678 01:27:15,830 --> 01:27:17,670 So they pulled her Offstage. 1679 01:27:17,670 --> 01:27:19,970 Then she goes to "Spamalot" That night. 1680 01:27:19,970 --> 01:27:35,370 And when the cameras frame Her familiar figure, 1681 01:27:47,300 --> 01:27:49,470 I can tell you that This response 1682 01:27:49,470 --> 01:27:51,900 Is not a response About color. 1683 01:27:51,900 --> 01:27:54,430 This is a response about Americans helping Americans. 1684 01:27:54,430 --> 01:27:58,070 No american wants to see Another american suffer. 1685 01:27:58,070 --> 01:28:00,000 - what do we want? - we want help! 1686 01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,200 - what do We want? - we want help! 1687 01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:04,330 - what do we want? - we want help! 1688 01:28:04,330 --> 01:28:06,030 We want help! 1689 01:28:06,030 --> 01:28:07,500 We want help! We want help! 1690 01:28:07,500 --> 01:28:09,600 Mackie: When you consider The situation-- 1691 01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:11,700 If you wasn't rich, If you wasn't middle class, 1692 01:28:11,700 --> 01:28:14,230 If you didn't have an explorer, If you didn't have a car-- 1693 01:28:14,230 --> 01:28:17,070 Right now, I don't know what plan Was put in place 1694 01:28:17,070 --> 01:28:19,830 For those people tget out. That's the real question. 1695 01:28:19,830 --> 01:28:23,230 If there was A mandatory evacuation, 1696 01:28:23,230 --> 01:28:26,500 And there was A mandatory evacuation, 1697 01:28:26,500 --> 01:28:29,370 Then that means That everyone had to leave. 1698 01:28:29,370 --> 01:28:31,270 And those people, 1699 01:28:31,270 --> 01:28:33,630 Who could not otherwise Do for themselves, 1700 01:28:33,630 --> 01:28:36,470 Supposedly the government Was supposed to do for them. 1701 01:28:36,470 --> 01:28:38,630 That's the responsibility And role of the government-- 1702 01:28:38,630 --> 01:28:40,930 To do for those otherwise Who cannot do for themselves. 1703 01:28:40,930 --> 01:28:42,900 Nobody chose to go Through what they did! 1704 01:28:42,900 --> 01:28:45,300 If anybody Would have known, 1705 01:28:45,300 --> 01:28:47,670 God knows everyone Would have left. 1706 01:28:47,670 --> 01:28:49,530 But again, some people Don't have the means. 1707 01:28:49,530 --> 01:28:52,070 You can't keep evacuating. People don't have the funds. 1708 01:28:52,070 --> 01:28:54,900 They don't have The places to go. They don't have vehicles. 1709 01:28:54,900 --> 01:28:56,530 And they say that This was all 1710 01:28:56,530 --> 01:28:58,600 Available to people. That's crap. 1711 01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:01,570 The whole deal was A bad experience, man. 1712 01:29:01,570 --> 01:29:04,630 But I think it could have Been done much better, okay? 1713 01:29:04,630 --> 01:29:06,670 And just to me, You know, 1714 01:29:06,670 --> 01:29:10,430 The city on the whole Didn't do what they were Supposed to do, 1715 01:29:10,430 --> 01:29:12,870 And you've got To fault the mayor. 1716 01:29:12,870 --> 01:29:15,970 - we want help! - all these people You see here dying? 1717 01:29:15,970 --> 01:29:18,100 - it's your fault. No more. - we want help! 1718 01:29:18,100 --> 01:29:19,600 Where are The policemen at? 1719 01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:22,570 Where are the national guard That can control all this? 1720 01:29:22,570 --> 01:29:24,900 Nagin: I think we probably Have evacuated 1721 01:29:24,900 --> 01:29:28,530 75% to 80% of the citizens Out of this city. 1722 01:29:28,530 --> 01:29:30,600 And normally, People would say 1723 01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:33,800 If you can get 60% Of the people out, You're doing a great job. 1724 01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,300 Ray Nagin was warned On Saturday night 1725 01:29:36,300 --> 01:29:38,570 That this was The worst storm ever. 1726 01:29:38,570 --> 01:29:40,570 The head of the national Weather service 1727 01:29:40,570 --> 01:29:43,000 Said, "You've got to get These people out of there." 1728 01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:46,430 Ray Nagin consulted first With the business community. 1729 01:29:46,430 --> 01:29:48,170 I found that remarkable. 1730 01:29:48,170 --> 01:29:51,130 His first instinct was not To protect his own citizens 1731 01:29:51,130 --> 01:29:54,400 But to go out and protect The business community, Because he felt 1732 01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:57,470 That if he Faced the reprisals Of the business community, 1733 01:29:57,470 --> 01:29:59,030 He would lose His economic base. 1734 01:29:59,030 --> 01:30:00,870 Understandable, But still lamentable. 1735 01:30:00,870 --> 01:30:04,130 Carter: He is supposed to be That first line of defense, 1736 01:30:04,130 --> 01:30:07,600 And organize The police department, The fire department, 1737 01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:11,070 And all other emergency Response folks. 1738 01:30:11,070 --> 01:30:14,330 And if he didn't-- There was a plan in place, 1739 01:30:14,330 --> 01:30:17,370 But I'm not sure if he knew What was in the plan, To be quite honest. 1740 01:30:17,370 --> 01:30:19,400 I'm not sure if He'd ever read it before. 1741 01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:20,930 - Nagin: I... - Judge: Ray Nagin. 1742 01:30:20,930 --> 01:30:22,870 Nagin: ...Clarence R. Nagin, Jr. 1743 01:30:22,870 --> 01:30:24,870 Otherwise known As "C. Ray Nagin..." 1744 01:30:24,870 --> 01:30:26,930 ( audience chuckles ) 1745 01:30:26,930 --> 01:30:30,070 - ...Do solemnly swear... - ...Do solemnly swear... 1746 01:30:30,070 --> 01:30:33,630 ...That I will support The constitution and laws Of the united states. 1747 01:30:33,630 --> 01:30:36,130 ...That I will support The constitution And laws... 1748 01:30:36,130 --> 01:30:38,330 Melancon: Ray Nagin done what He could do. 1749 01:30:38,330 --> 01:30:41,770 Ray Nagin's only a mayor. He's not no governor. 1750 01:30:41,770 --> 01:30:43,530 He's not no Vice-president. 1751 01:30:43,530 --> 01:30:45,530 He's not no President. 1752 01:30:45,530 --> 01:30:47,530 He only have So much power. 1753 01:30:47,530 --> 01:30:50,070 You know, I voted for Nagin, 1754 01:30:50,070 --> 01:30:53,830 And I think He was just confounded 1755 01:30:53,830 --> 01:30:57,230 By the tremendous import Of the problem here. 1756 01:30:57,230 --> 01:31:00,900 Things got on him, And he should have gotten his People out of the city faster, 1757 01:31:00,900 --> 01:31:02,430 But what else He was going to do 1758 01:31:02,430 --> 01:31:05,100 But put them in the superdome And the convention center? 1759 01:31:05,100 --> 01:31:07,170 The pictures of these Poor people 1760 01:31:07,170 --> 01:31:08,930 With nothing to eat 1761 01:31:08,930 --> 01:31:11,630 And without their clothes, And people looting the city, 1762 01:31:11,630 --> 01:31:14,000 I don't think you can Attribute all that-- 1763 01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,430 It's easy in hindsight To say what you would have done 1764 01:31:16,430 --> 01:31:18,300 Under the same Or similar circumstances. 1765 01:31:18,300 --> 01:31:21,670 If I had to grade mayor Nagin, I would say this-- 1766 01:31:21,670 --> 01:31:24,270 I would say there has not Been a man in america 1767 01:31:24,270 --> 01:31:27,730 That has been challenged The way he's challenged. 1768 01:31:27,730 --> 01:31:29,630 Many people want To talk about giuliani, 1769 01:31:29,630 --> 01:31:32,800 But 9/11 was 16 square acres-- 1770 01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:34,300 This is 90,000 Square miles. 1771 01:31:34,300 --> 01:31:36,000 Giuliani went home Every night. 1772 01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:39,100 Giuliani had His police, his firemen. He had communication. 1773 01:31:39,100 --> 01:31:42,500 That's right. Rudy would have tramped out There in the midst of the storm 1774 01:31:42,500 --> 01:31:44,200 And walked on water Like jesus. 1775 01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:47,270 The reality is That the entire city Of New Orleans was flooded, 1776 01:31:47,270 --> 01:31:50,800 So to his credit, Mr. Nagin attempted In the aftermath 1777 01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:52,800 To get resources Available for his city. 1778 01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:54,330 Nagin: I'm not trying To be rudy. 1779 01:31:54,330 --> 01:31:56,270 I don't think I can be rudy. 1780 01:31:56,270 --> 01:31:59,930 I don't get The giuliani pass For a lot of different reasons, 1781 01:31:59,930 --> 01:32:02,000 Some good And some bad. 1782 01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:06,470 The 9/11 situation Was a very contained event. 1783 01:32:06,470 --> 01:32:09,200 This event in New Orleans Was totally different. 1784 01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:12,900 You've never had a city Totally devastated. 1785 01:32:12,900 --> 01:32:16,230 You never had a city With 80% of it underwater. 1786 01:32:16,230 --> 01:32:19,530 You've never had a city With communications gone, 1787 01:32:19,530 --> 01:32:21,000 With electricity gone, 1788 01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:24,030 With the media For the most part gone, 1789 01:32:24,030 --> 01:32:27,930 Because of fears Of what was happening In the city. 1790 01:32:35,370 --> 01:32:39,400 Well, as I was Dealing with the crisis Right after the storm, 1791 01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,970 There was two major Flood events. 1792 01:32:41,970 --> 01:32:44,430 The first one happened Right after the storm 1793 01:32:44,430 --> 01:32:46,130 With the florida avenue. 1794 01:32:46,130 --> 01:32:50,300 And then right Close thereafter, 1795 01:32:50,300 --> 01:32:53,130 We had breaches At 17th street 1796 01:32:53,130 --> 01:32:55,500 And the london avenue 1797 01:32:55,500 --> 01:32:57,700 And we were in crisis. 1798 01:32:57,700 --> 01:33:01,130 Everything that we did Was basically 1799 01:33:01,130 --> 01:33:02,970 To try and get As many people out, 1800 01:33:02,970 --> 01:33:06,170 And then to put people In shelters of last resort, 1801 01:33:06,170 --> 01:33:09,470 To basically allow them To spend a couple of days, 1802 01:33:09,470 --> 01:33:12,030 And then we always thought The cavalry would come-- 1803 01:33:12,030 --> 01:33:13,970 The state police, 1804 01:33:13,970 --> 01:33:16,100 National guard, The feds. 1805 01:33:16,100 --> 01:33:20,270 And then After two or three days, They didn't show up. 1806 01:33:29,700 --> 01:33:31,770 Woman: They've been making Promises to us 1807 01:33:31,770 --> 01:33:34,400 That they were going To move us, move us And move us, 1808 01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:37,170 And we've been Believing in it, And people just really been 1809 01:33:37,170 --> 01:33:38,830 Getting frustrated At this point. 1810 01:33:38,830 --> 01:33:40,900 Woman: No red cross or nothing. 1811 01:33:40,900 --> 01:33:44,000 ( crowd shouting Angrily ) 1812 01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:47,530 This is terrorism America-style. Help us! 1813 01:33:47,530 --> 01:33:51,270 To try to figure out Why there was 1814 01:33:51,270 --> 01:33:54,370 A slow federal response Is still a puzzle to me. 1815 01:33:54,370 --> 01:33:58,670 I look at that time, And it was so desperate. 1816 01:33:58,670 --> 01:34:01,600 And as governor, 1817 01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,170 I had thrown every asset That we had 1818 01:34:04,170 --> 01:34:06,000 Against the fury Of the storm, 1819 01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:07,830 And the aftermath Of the storm. 1820 01:34:07,830 --> 01:34:09,630 We had 400 boats 1821 01:34:09,630 --> 01:34:12,400 From wildlife and fisheries Ready to deploy-- 1822 01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:15,070 In fact, deploying, While the winds 1823 01:34:15,070 --> 01:34:17,600 Were still blowing 30 and 40 miles an hour-- 1824 01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:20,400 That's not real safe. If you're a boater, You know that. 1825 01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:22,970 But they were doing that Because we understood 1826 01:34:22,970 --> 01:34:25,570 There was going to be A big lifesaving mission. 1827 01:34:25,570 --> 01:34:28,970 We understood, though, As events unfolded, 1828 01:34:28,970 --> 01:34:32,970 That that was not enough, And we continued to ask 1829 01:34:32,970 --> 01:34:37,030 In every way possible To get more help. 1830 01:34:37,030 --> 01:34:40,500 Robinette's voice: What do you need right now 1831 01:34:40,500 --> 01:34:43,330 To get control Of this situation? 1832 01:34:43,330 --> 01:34:47,700 Nagin's voice: I need reinforcements. I need troops, man. 1833 01:34:47,700 --> 01:34:52,370 I need 500 buses, man. We ain't talking about-- 1834 01:34:52,370 --> 01:34:55,600 You know, one of The briefings we had, They were talking about 1835 01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:58,170 Getting public school Bus drivers 1836 01:34:58,170 --> 01:35:00,400 To come down here And bus people out of here. 1837 01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:02,230 I'm like, you've got To be kidding me! 1838 01:35:02,230 --> 01:35:04,100 This is a national Disaster. 1839 01:35:04,100 --> 01:35:07,500 Get every doggone Greyhound bus line In the country 1840 01:35:07,500 --> 01:35:09,770 And get their asses Moving to New Orleans! 1841 01:35:09,770 --> 01:35:13,170 The interview With mayor Nagin has Some historic proportions, 1842 01:35:13,170 --> 01:35:16,130 But primarily, It was an accident. 1843 01:35:16,130 --> 01:35:18,370 I had broadcast Through the hurricane... 1844 01:35:19,630 --> 01:35:22,500 Into the couple of days After the hurricane, 1845 01:35:22,500 --> 01:35:24,870 And then taken A couple of days off 1846 01:35:24,870 --> 01:35:26,600 To go find my family. 1847 01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:29,370 And when I came back, I hadn't been listening To the news, 1848 01:35:29,370 --> 01:35:32,830 And I just figured The president was here, The army was here, 1849 01:35:32,830 --> 01:35:35,170 Things were starting To turn around. 1850 01:35:35,170 --> 01:35:38,000 And in my drive in, I listened to 1851 01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:40,700 All of these Public officials-- 1852 01:35:40,700 --> 01:35:42,770 The governor, 1853 01:35:42,770 --> 01:35:46,370 Parish officials-- In hysteria. 1854 01:35:46,370 --> 01:35:48,030 And when I got Into the studio 1855 01:35:48,030 --> 01:35:50,230 I said, "What the hell's going on?" 1856 01:35:50,230 --> 01:35:52,600 And they said, "We don't know." 1857 01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:55,930 And the mayor Called in. 1858 01:35:55,930 --> 01:35:58,730 Nagin's voice: You know the reason why the Looters got out of control? 1859 01:35:58,730 --> 01:36:01,900 Because we had Most of our resources Saving people, 1860 01:36:01,900 --> 01:36:05,570 Thousands of people that were Stuck in attics, man-- 1861 01:36:05,570 --> 01:36:09,100 Old ladies. When you pull off The doggone ventilator vents 1862 01:36:09,100 --> 01:36:11,870 And you look down there, And they're standing in there 1863 01:36:11,870 --> 01:36:14,300 In water up to their Frickin' neck. 1864 01:36:14,300 --> 01:36:16,870 And they don't have a clue What's going on down here. 1865 01:36:16,870 --> 01:36:19,100 They flew down here One time 1866 01:36:19,100 --> 01:36:21,970 Two days after the doggone Event was over 1867 01:36:21,970 --> 01:36:25,770 With tv cameras, A.P. Reporters, 1868 01:36:25,770 --> 01:36:28,670 All kind of goddamn-- Excuse my french, 1869 01:36:28,670 --> 01:36:31,900 Everybody in america, But I am pissed. 1870 01:36:33,270 --> 01:36:36,300 That was the moment I think we started Getting help. 1871 01:36:37,630 --> 01:36:40,470 Everybody else was being Politically correct, 1872 01:36:40,470 --> 01:36:42,670 Racially correct, 1873 01:36:42,670 --> 01:36:45,070 Economically correct, Class correct, 1874 01:36:45,070 --> 01:36:47,630 And nobody Had the balls 1875 01:36:47,630 --> 01:36:50,730 To say what Was happening. 1876 01:36:50,730 --> 01:36:54,170 And until he did, Nothing did ppen. 1877 01:36:54,170 --> 01:36:57,570 This is the thing That people have To understand-- 1878 01:36:57,570 --> 01:37:02,530 That america Can no longer-- 1879 01:37:02,530 --> 01:37:06,270 ( choked sobs ) 1880 01:37:10,030 --> 01:37:13,130 I'm sorry. 1881 01:37:16,070 --> 01:37:19,000 It's been a long Few months. 1882 01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:22,800 I'm sorry, um-- 1883 01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:26,530 It's, uh-- ( sighs ) 1884 01:37:30,130 --> 01:37:33,070 I kind of went off, man. After I did it... 1885 01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:37,030 I said to myself-- I was really emotional. 1886 01:37:37,030 --> 01:37:39,570 I said, "Man, I have really Screwed up. 1887 01:37:39,570 --> 01:37:42,230 This is the end Of my business career, 1888 01:37:42,230 --> 01:37:43,970 My political career, 1889 01:37:43,970 --> 01:37:46,530 And maybe the cia Is going to swoop in here, 1890 01:37:46,530 --> 01:37:48,800 And inject me with something I don't know about, 1891 01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:51,470 Where in two months I'm going to be history." 1892 01:37:51,470 --> 01:37:53,400 And I really Believed that. 1893 01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:55,900 And after I kind of Got over it, man, 1894 01:37:55,900 --> 01:37:58,200 It kind of started The ball rolling. 1895 01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,030 You know, Air force one was 1896 01:38:04,030 --> 01:38:06,730 Something that was Pretty amazing. 1897 01:38:06,730 --> 01:38:08,900 I've never been on... 1898 01:38:08,900 --> 01:38:10,900 What I'm calling A pimp-mobile, man. 1899 01:38:10,900 --> 01:38:13,670 This thing is incredible. It's like-- 1900 01:38:13,670 --> 01:38:15,630 It's like nothing You've ever seen. 1901 01:38:15,630 --> 01:38:17,930 It's a penthouse In the sky. 1902 01:38:17,930 --> 01:38:20,070 They called me and said, 1903 01:38:20,070 --> 01:38:22,630 "Look, the president would Like to meet with you." 1904 01:38:22,630 --> 01:38:24,470 I said, "Look, I haven't taken a bath. 1905 01:38:24,470 --> 01:38:27,830 I've been doing this Military bathing thing. I haven't shaved." 1906 01:38:27,830 --> 01:38:30,400 They said, "No problem, We're going to set you up." 1907 01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:32,430 I go on air force one. 1908 01:38:32,430 --> 01:38:35,100 This brother from new york Takes care of everything. 1909 01:38:35,100 --> 01:38:37,400 He said, "Look, man, We're going to hook you up." 1910 01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:40,070 Sent me to the back, In the president's quarters, 1911 01:38:40,070 --> 01:38:41,930 And I get in the shower, 1912 01:38:41,930 --> 01:38:44,300 And he knocks on the door And says, 1913 01:38:44,300 --> 01:38:46,830 "Mr. Mayor, five minutes. They need you." 1914 01:38:46,830 --> 01:38:50,430 And I'm like, to myself, "There's no way I'm getting Out of this warm shower 1915 01:38:50,430 --> 01:38:52,730 In five minutes. They're going to wait on me." 1916 01:38:52,730 --> 01:38:55,200 So he comes back And knocks on the door again 1917 01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:57,200 And basically says, "They need you. 1918 01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:59,030 The president is Waiting for you." 1919 01:38:59,030 --> 01:39:01,570 So I took Another five minutes And eventually got out. 1920 01:39:01,570 --> 01:39:04,400 We have lunch On the plane 1921 01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:07,430 With the president, Senators 1922 01:39:07,430 --> 01:39:10,900 And congressmen. Chertoff is there, 1923 01:39:10,900 --> 01:39:13,930 Brown was there, The governor was there. 1924 01:39:13,930 --> 01:39:16,270 Mayor Nagin was still Very upset about 1925 01:39:16,270 --> 01:39:17,930 Everything going on, Very justly. 1926 01:39:17,930 --> 01:39:20,900 We were all upset. I mean, you know, let's be Frank about it-- 1927 01:39:20,900 --> 01:39:22,700 None of us were Happy and content. 1928 01:39:22,700 --> 01:39:26,300 As everybody's going Around the room and they Kind of get to me, 1929 01:39:26,300 --> 01:39:28,570 And I cut to the chase. 1930 01:39:28,570 --> 01:39:31,800 I said, "Mr. President, With all due respect, 1931 01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:34,530 If you and the governor Don't get on the same page, 1932 01:39:34,530 --> 01:39:37,700 This thing is going To continue to degrade Into something 1933 01:39:37,700 --> 01:39:39,930 That's going to further Embarrass the nation." 1934 01:39:39,930 --> 01:39:42,670 So he and the governor Went in another room. 1935 01:39:42,670 --> 01:39:45,270 They had a meeting For about 15 minutes. 1936 01:39:45,270 --> 01:39:48,670 Somebody came and got me And said, "The president Would like to see you." 1937 01:39:48,670 --> 01:39:52,230 So I go in this room, This little private room, The governor's coming out. 1938 01:39:52,230 --> 01:39:54,800 He said, "Mr. Mayor, The governor and I talked. 1939 01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:56,670 I took your advice. 1940 01:39:56,670 --> 01:40:00,200 I offered her somebody Who could run this thing 1941 01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:02,770 And have ultimate Authority. 1942 01:40:02,770 --> 01:40:05,000 And she did not want To go in that direction, 1943 01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:07,470 So I gave her Two options." 1944 01:40:07,470 --> 01:40:10,470 And he basically said, "I'm sad to say 1945 01:40:10,470 --> 01:40:13,130 That she said she needed Some time to think about it." 1946 01:40:13,130 --> 01:40:15,400 I didn't say, "Give me 24 hours 1947 01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:17,930 To decide If I want your help." 1948 01:40:17,930 --> 01:40:20,700 I had said from day one, 1949 01:40:20,700 --> 01:40:22,570 "Mr. President, I need your help." 1950 01:40:22,570 --> 01:40:25,370 Nagin: Well, you know, From my perspective, 1951 01:40:25,370 --> 01:40:28,170 The big problem In this catastrophe 1952 01:40:28,170 --> 01:40:32,100 Was who ultimately Had the authority 1953 01:40:32,100 --> 01:40:34,070 To make the final calls. 1954 01:40:34,070 --> 01:40:36,030 And the feds, 1955 01:40:36,030 --> 01:40:37,900 The federal government, In my opinion, 1956 01:40:37,900 --> 01:40:42,300 Was dancing around This whole issue Of state rights. 1957 01:40:42,300 --> 01:40:45,670 And the state Had to call the feds in 1958 01:40:45,670 --> 01:40:47,930 For the resources That they needed. 1959 01:40:47,930 --> 01:40:52,530 And the state was kind Of hesitant in doing that, 1960 01:40:52,530 --> 01:40:54,630 Because the governor Wanted to look like 1961 01:40:54,630 --> 01:40:56,730 She was in charge And in control. 1962 01:40:56,730 --> 01:40:58,870 And that's what I'm Talking about when I say 1963 01:40:58,870 --> 01:41:01,200 There was this dance About final authority. 1964 01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:05,900 And people were suffering. It was frustrating me. 1965 01:41:05,900 --> 01:41:07,730 Brinkley: Governor blanco, I think, 1966 01:41:07,730 --> 01:41:09,600 Was in many ways Angry at Nagin, 1967 01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:11,800 Because Nagin, As a democrat, 1968 01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:15,030 Backed the republican Bobby jindal 1969 01:41:15,030 --> 01:41:16,530 When she Ran for governor. 1970 01:41:16,530 --> 01:41:18,300 He didn't think she Had a chance to win, 1971 01:41:18,300 --> 01:41:21,200 And he did in politics, Which is one of those Unthinkable things, 1972 01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:24,200 He broke out and said, "I don't want the democratic Candidate. 1973 01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:26,000 I'm going to vote For a republican," 1974 01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,330 Who is a great friend Of the bush administration, 1975 01:41:28,330 --> 01:41:29,930 So Nagin backed Bobby jindal. 1976 01:41:29,930 --> 01:41:32,200 Well, blanco won, And she's harbored 1977 01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:34,600 A great deal of animosity Towards Nagin ever since. 1978 01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:39,070 I don't care what The political relationship is 1979 01:41:39,070 --> 01:41:41,330 Between a gornor Or a mayor. 1980 01:41:41,330 --> 01:41:44,670 When there's a crisis, Like a hurricane crisis, 1981 01:41:44,670 --> 01:41:46,770 Or a weather crisis, 1982 01:41:46,770 --> 01:41:49,170 All political b.S. 1983 01:41:49,170 --> 01:41:51,300 Has to go to the side. 1984 01:41:51,300 --> 01:41:53,170 "Ray Nagin, What happened? 1985 01:41:53,170 --> 01:41:55,170 You dropped the ball." 1986 01:41:55,170 --> 01:41:57,800 Then I would say the same Thing to the governor. 1987 01:41:57,800 --> 01:42:00,570 "Ms. Blanco, what were You thinking about? 1988 01:42:00,570 --> 01:42:03,170 What the hell Was going on?" 1989 01:42:03,170 --> 01:42:04,830 Then I would ask bush, 1990 01:42:04,830 --> 01:42:07,300 "You're out of touch, And you don't have a clue." 1991 01:42:07,300 --> 01:42:08,970 You know, He's the type of person 1992 01:42:08,970 --> 01:42:12,700 That gives "C" students All over the world A bad name. 1993 01:42:12,700 --> 01:42:14,900 British reporter: And here he was in biloxi, 1994 01:42:14,900 --> 01:42:17,430 Feeling the pain of Some of the survivors. 1995 01:42:17,430 --> 01:42:21,330 He's very good at this, But many feel he should have Done it much earlier. 1996 01:42:21,330 --> 01:42:25,870 Then the question that May well come to haunt Him in his second term-- 1997 01:42:25,870 --> 01:42:28,470 The war in iraq And hurricane Katrina-- 1998 01:42:28,470 --> 01:42:30,400 The perfect storm. 1999 01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:32,300 Reporter: What do you say to The people who say there's 2000 01:42:32,300 --> 01:42:34,870 Too much money being Spent on iraq, and it's Time to bring it home? 2001 01:42:34,870 --> 01:42:36,730 I-I-I just completely Disagree. 2002 01:42:36,730 --> 01:42:39,700 We've got a job To defend this country In the war on terror 2003 01:42:39,700 --> 01:42:42,230 And we've got a job To bring aid and comfort 2004 01:42:42,230 --> 01:42:45,100 To people Of the gulf coast-- And we'll do both. 2005 01:42:45,100 --> 01:42:47,000 I'll never forget. 2006 01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:49,930 I went to one of the shelters In shreveport, Louisiana, 2007 01:42:49,930 --> 01:42:51,730 And I met a man Named daniel webster. 2008 01:42:51,730 --> 01:42:53,300 I'll will never Forget him. 2009 01:42:53,300 --> 01:42:56,170 And he was sitting there, And he said to me, 2010 01:42:56,170 --> 01:42:58,130 "You know, reverend, 2011 01:42:58,130 --> 01:43:00,170 My wife was Wheelchair-bound. 2012 01:43:00,170 --> 01:43:03,270 When I heard The storm coming, I ran to the door. 2013 01:43:03,270 --> 01:43:07,300 I knew I was in trouble Because I took my finger And tapped the doorknob, 2014 01:43:07,300 --> 01:43:09,330 And I tasted the water. It was salt water, 2015 01:43:09,330 --> 01:43:12,270 So I knew that the waters From the river was coming." 2016 01:43:12,270 --> 01:43:14,800 He said, "But before I could run back 2017 01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:16,730 To where my wife was, 2018 01:43:16,730 --> 01:43:19,000 I looked outside And saw my car floating, 2019 01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:20,970 And before I could Reach my wife, 2020 01:43:20,970 --> 01:43:23,930 The door came off The hinges and water Was everywhere." 2021 01:43:23,930 --> 01:43:26,070 He said, "I finally Grabbed her chair, 2022 01:43:26,070 --> 01:43:28,270 And pushed her up To the roof of the house, 2023 01:43:28,270 --> 01:43:31,730 And I held her as long As I could. And I couldn't Hold no longer, 2024 01:43:31,730 --> 01:43:35,000 And I watched my wife's Wheelchair just go With the flow, 2025 01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:36,600 And watched her drown 2026 01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:38,900 As a tree branch Held me for 12 hours." 2027 01:43:38,900 --> 01:43:42,300 He said, "The only thing I don't know is why god Didn't just let me die. 2028 01:43:42,300 --> 01:43:44,000 I have nothing To live for." 2029 01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:46,330 These are the kinds of things We had to listen to, 2030 01:43:46,330 --> 01:43:48,270 And then turn on the news That night, 2031 01:43:48,270 --> 01:43:50,570 And george bush And michael brown 2032 01:43:50,570 --> 01:43:52,070 Are talking politics. 2033 01:43:52,070 --> 01:43:54,070 They didn't have Information. 2034 01:43:54,070 --> 01:43:55,800 They were waiting On reports. 2035 01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:57,400 They could have done What we did: 2036 01:43:57,400 --> 01:43:59,730 Go right there And talk to the people. 2037 01:43:59,730 --> 01:44:02,630 Activate the national guard, Activate the military. 2038 01:44:02,630 --> 01:44:05,030 Oh. I forgot. They were in iraq, 2039 01:44:05,030 --> 01:44:08,330 Making democracy free For those abroad, 2040 01:44:08,330 --> 01:44:11,000 While those at home Had nothing. 2041 01:44:12,730 --> 01:44:15,130 - I'm her daughter. - man: how old is your mother? 2042 01:44:15,130 --> 01:44:18,130 86. She have A heart condition. 2043 01:44:18,130 --> 01:44:21,900 Cynthia hedge-morrell: The feeling that residents Had about the national guard, 2044 01:44:21,900 --> 01:44:24,900 And the state police, And the visiting police 2045 01:44:24,900 --> 01:44:28,070 That they were in An armed, occupied city. 2046 01:44:28,070 --> 01:44:30,970 I can't help but believe 2047 01:44:30,970 --> 01:44:33,400 That's the same way They treated people 2048 01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:36,270 In any city That we go in and invade, 2049 01:44:36,270 --> 01:44:40,130 Or kosovo, Or wherever. 2050 01:44:40,130 --> 01:44:42,700 I don't know. 2051 01:44:42,700 --> 01:44:46,000 I guess maybe that's The way the iraqis Feel sometimes. 2052 01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:47,830 Good morning. 2053 01:44:47,830 --> 01:44:50,570 Yesterday was a good day. 2054 01:44:50,570 --> 01:44:53,130 We made much progress In building our capability 2055 01:44:53,130 --> 01:44:57,270 In the area of operation, In mississippi, 2056 01:44:57,270 --> 01:44:59,500 As well as in Louisiana. 2057 01:44:59,500 --> 01:45:02,770 Nagin: Next thing that happened Was I get this call. 2058 01:45:02,770 --> 01:45:04,830 I need to meet This general 2059 01:45:04,830 --> 01:45:07,070 And he's at The heliport. 2060 01:45:07,070 --> 01:45:09,870 So I walk in, And I'm waiting, 2061 01:45:09,870 --> 01:45:12,630 And his aircraft Was a little late. 2062 01:45:12,630 --> 01:45:15,070 And I'll never forget this As long as I live. 2063 01:45:15,070 --> 01:45:17,100 This brother walks In the room, 2064 01:45:17,100 --> 01:45:20,670 And he's got all these Military guys around, 2065 01:45:20,670 --> 01:45:23,670 And he takes-- he's got This little tammy on, 2066 01:45:23,670 --> 01:45:25,300 And he takes His dark shades on, 2067 01:45:25,300 --> 01:45:27,230 And gets his little pad, And his pen. 2068 01:45:27,230 --> 01:45:28,630 He says, "All right. 2069 01:45:28,630 --> 01:45:30,970 What are we going to do? What's going on?"" 2070 01:45:30,970 --> 01:45:33,670 Weapons down! Weapons down, damn it! 2071 01:45:33,670 --> 01:45:36,070 Nagin: They started giving Him a bunch of b.S., 2072 01:45:36,070 --> 01:45:39,030 And he started cussing, And things started happening, 2073 01:45:39,030 --> 01:45:41,000 And that's when Things changed. 2074 01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:42,970 Put those damn Weapons down! 2075 01:45:42,970 --> 01:45:45,530 I'm not going To tell you again, God damn it. 2076 01:45:45,530 --> 01:45:50,430 Get those goddamn Weapons down. 2077 01:45:50,430 --> 01:45:52,600 The black John wayne dude-- 2078 01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:55,370 General honore. That's a bad man. 2079 01:45:55,370 --> 01:45:57,500 He was the guy That did it. 2080 01:45:57,500 --> 01:45:59,470 He wasn't stuck on stuck. 2081 01:45:59,470 --> 01:46:01,970 I want that on the ground So the trucks can go Get another load. 2082 01:46:01,970 --> 01:46:03,500 - yes, sir. - you can make that happen? 2083 01:46:03,500 --> 01:46:06,130 - I can make it happen. - you the man. I'm depending on you. 2084 01:46:06,130 --> 01:46:08,430 - I'm gonna make it happen. - I got something for you At the end. 2085 01:46:08,430 --> 01:46:10,070 All right. Thank you. 2086 01:46:10,070 --> 01:46:12,570 Honore: The next 24 hours Will be critical to us, 2087 01:46:12,570 --> 01:46:15,170 As we are trying To evacuate 2088 01:46:15,170 --> 01:46:19,230 The 25,000 people At the convention center. 2089 01:46:19,230 --> 01:46:20,630 This will be tough work, 2090 01:46:20,630 --> 01:46:22,900 But we have The conditions set, 2091 01:46:22,900 --> 01:46:24,900 And we will Get that done. 2092 01:46:24,900 --> 01:46:28,000 We'll continue To flow forces in And capability, 2093 01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:29,900 So we can sustain This operation 2094 01:46:29,900 --> 01:46:33,130 And continue The enormous search And rescue mission 2095 01:46:33,130 --> 01:46:37,700 That runs from I-20 to the gulf coast Of mississippi, 2096 01:46:37,700 --> 01:46:40,870 And in and around The greater New Orleans area. 2097 01:46:40,870 --> 01:46:43,600 So we will do our best And continue to do that 2098 01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:45,870 Over the next 24 hours. Over. 2099 01:46:45,870 --> 01:46:47,530 Reporter: Right now we're being told 2100 01:46:47,530 --> 01:46:50,100 That this is A convoy of food, 2101 01:46:50,300 --> 01:46:54,770 Possible food And supplies coming in-- 2102 01:46:54,770 --> 01:46:58,600 Maybe we can slow it down A little bit here-- 2103 01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:02,030 Into the area Of the convention center. 2104 01:47:02,030 --> 01:47:05,430 Relief is finally Arriving here on large 2105 01:47:05,430 --> 01:47:09,170 National guard Or army vehicles 2106 01:47:09,170 --> 01:47:10,830 Around the superdome. 2107 01:47:10,830 --> 01:47:13,400 Dale girard: In the lines for the people 2108 01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:16,500 To evacuate the superdome, 2109 01:47:16,500 --> 01:47:19,000 They had no direction 2110 01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:21,300 Or no clue of what Was going on. 2111 01:47:21,300 --> 01:47:23,270 You couldn't hear Anything 2112 01:47:23,270 --> 01:47:25,300 Because there Was no sound system. 2113 01:47:25,300 --> 01:47:27,530 When you did get 2114 01:47:27,530 --> 01:47:30,100 Something that somebody Was telling you-- 2115 01:47:30,100 --> 01:47:32,330 The men in one line, 2116 01:47:32,330 --> 01:47:34,330 The women in one line, 2117 01:47:34,330 --> 01:47:36,700 The family In another line, 2118 01:47:36,700 --> 01:47:38,800 The elderly In another line. 2119 01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:41,530 It was just so chaotic 2120 01:47:41,530 --> 01:47:44,700 Trying to get out Of that dome, 2121 01:47:44,700 --> 01:47:47,500 Because no one Had any clue 2122 01:47:47,500 --> 01:47:50,030 Or direction How we were 2123 01:47:50,030 --> 01:47:52,700 To get out the dome At the time. 2124 01:47:52,700 --> 01:47:54,700 Man: Grab her-- Grab her legs. 2125 01:47:54,700 --> 01:47:57,130 Gralen banks: The hyatt is located Right next 2126 01:47:57,130 --> 01:47:59,400 To the superdome. We were actually called 2127 01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:02,230 The hyatt regency New Orleans At Louisiana superdome. 2128 01:48:02,230 --> 01:48:04,330 We were right In the vicinity, 2129 01:48:04,330 --> 01:48:06,100 But it was like Being miles away, 2130 01:48:06,100 --> 01:48:08,700 Because there was water And everything else 2131 01:48:08,700 --> 01:48:11,470 Separating us from The folks at the dome. 2132 01:48:11,470 --> 01:48:15,330 They evacuated all The folks from the dome, 2133 01:48:15,330 --> 01:48:18,800 Probably about 40,000 people, Through the hyatt, 2134 01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:23,930 And we had no idea What to expect. 2135 01:48:23,930 --> 01:48:25,900 The day that the folks Were going to be 2136 01:48:25,900 --> 01:48:28,100 Evacuated from the dome Through the hotel, 2137 01:48:28,100 --> 01:48:30,730 I found out about it, 2138 01:48:30,730 --> 01:48:32,830 And I was told That I would have 2139 01:48:32,830 --> 01:48:36,700 National guard, State and local police To do the security. 2140 01:48:36,700 --> 01:48:38,470 Because... 2141 01:48:38,470 --> 01:48:40,800 Gralen was Afraid that the guys 2142 01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:43,830 Who were in there Doing what they weren't Supposed to do 2143 01:48:43,830 --> 01:48:47,370 Would fan out into the hotel, And it could be a problem. 2144 01:48:47,370 --> 01:48:48,970 So we were on our way 2145 01:48:48,970 --> 01:48:52,470 To go and speak to This major-- state police, 2146 01:48:52,470 --> 01:48:56,170 When I saw this Brother in a uniform-- 2147 01:48:56,170 --> 01:48:58,930 Just a brother In a uniform happened To be walking by. 2148 01:48:58,930 --> 01:49:02,170 I said, "Excuse me, sir. Are you with the National guard?" 2149 01:49:02,170 --> 01:49:05,170 He said, "Yes, I am." I said, "Listen, this is What I need, man. 2150 01:49:05,170 --> 01:49:07,600 I got a problem, because The state troopers--" 2151 01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:10,900 And I just started Going off, right? 2152 01:49:10,900 --> 01:49:14,030 And the brother said, "Wait a second. 2153 01:49:14,030 --> 01:49:16,500 Stop. Take a deep breath. 2154 01:49:16,500 --> 01:49:19,700 Tell me what it is you want Me to do. Tell me what I could do for you. 2155 01:49:19,700 --> 01:49:22,230 Well, in the meantime, The crew I'm with, 2156 01:49:22,230 --> 01:49:25,470 We looking At each other like, 2157 01:49:25,470 --> 01:49:29,630 "Okay let's get these People out of the dome," 2158 01:49:29,630 --> 01:49:32,530 Cause gralen Didn't cut the deal, Him and the other folk, 2159 01:49:32,530 --> 01:49:34,130 They didn't cut the deal. 2160 01:49:34,130 --> 01:49:37,470 And the military Created a line 2161 01:49:37,470 --> 01:49:40,030 From the entrance Of the hyatt, 2162 01:49:40,030 --> 01:49:42,230 From the entrance Of the New Orleans center 2163 01:49:42,230 --> 01:49:43,870 All the way Through the hyatt, 2164 01:49:43,870 --> 01:49:46,570 All the way down To the loyola street door. 2165 01:49:46,570 --> 01:49:50,430 And I mean, A physical line, Like a chute. 2166 01:49:50,430 --> 01:49:53,170 He said, "Mr. Banks," He said, "Will this do 2167 01:49:53,170 --> 01:49:55,270 So I dapped him off, 2168 01:49:55,270 --> 01:49:57,430 Dapped the brother off, Give him a hug, 2169 01:49:57,430 --> 01:49:59,900 And I had To call my mom, 2170 01:49:59,900 --> 01:50:02,230 Because I saw The significance. 2171 01:50:02,230 --> 01:50:05,330 I never told you His name. You know What his name was? 2172 01:50:05,330 --> 01:50:07,130 Captain christian. 2173 01:50:07,130 --> 01:50:09,630 His name was Captain christian. 2174 01:50:09,630 --> 01:50:13,270 And as they came through, The military was good and bad. 2175 01:50:13,270 --> 01:50:17,430 Because I guess as A trained soldier, 2176 01:50:17,430 --> 01:50:20,300 You have to see things And act like you Don't see it. 2177 01:50:20,300 --> 01:50:22,300 You're oblivious to it. 2178 01:50:22,300 --> 01:50:25,270 And for much pain-- I mean, people were Carrying people 2179 01:50:25,270 --> 01:50:27,630 And dragging, And dragging bags Of clothes, 2180 01:50:27,630 --> 01:50:31,130 And crippled people, And people bleeding. 2181 01:50:31,130 --> 01:50:35,970 I mean, it was just Horrific conditions. 2182 01:50:35,970 --> 01:50:38,500 Horrific conditions-- 2183 01:50:38,500 --> 01:50:42,500 Women, periods was Down on them, 2184 01:50:42,500 --> 01:50:45,330 They had shit on them, Piss on them. 2185 01:50:45,330 --> 01:50:47,270 Children were By themselves. 2186 01:50:47,270 --> 01:50:51,100 You would have Thought we were In the middle of a war, 2187 01:50:51,100 --> 01:50:54,000 And everybody took out Running and hiding, 2188 01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:57,030 And all of a sudden They were able to flee. 2189 01:50:57,030 --> 01:51:00,100 And I saw that, 2190 01:51:00,100 --> 01:51:03,100 And all I could Do was cry 2191 01:51:03,100 --> 01:51:06,200 And stand up there And feel helpless 2192 01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:08,870 Until I looked On the sidewalk and saw 2193 01:51:08,870 --> 01:51:11,630 All of this water That the military Had stacked up, 2194 01:51:11,630 --> 01:51:15,030 And I began to bust The cases of the water, 2195 01:51:15,030 --> 01:51:17,470 And put a bottle of water In everybody's hand, 2196 01:51:17,470 --> 01:51:21,130 Just to give it Some humanistic side. 2197 01:51:21,130 --> 01:51:24,370 Not a lot, But something. 2198 01:51:24,370 --> 01:51:26,830 I mean, we had To do something. 2199 01:51:26,830 --> 01:51:30,000 If he sees this, Captain christian, I owe you one. 2200 01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:31,500 Thank you, brother. Thank you. 2201 01:51:31,500 --> 01:51:33,970 He looked out, man, And it was just the idea-- 2202 01:51:33,970 --> 01:51:36,070 When I told my mom, She said the same thing. 2203 01:51:36,070 --> 01:51:39,800 She said, "Lord have mercy. God is good." 2204 01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:41,770 My mother died September 1st, 2205 01:51:41,770 --> 01:51:45,230 And she had to Stay out there in The heat for four days. 2206 01:51:45,230 --> 01:51:47,270 Because I left On the 4th, 2207 01:51:47,270 --> 01:51:49,200 She was still there. 2208 01:51:49,200 --> 01:51:52,330 I wanted to go And be with her. 2209 01:51:52,330 --> 01:51:55,530 The national guard told me I had to get on the bus. 2210 01:51:55,530 --> 01:51:57,930 And they all had ak-47s. 2211 01:51:57,930 --> 01:51:59,730 He told me he was Doing his job. 2212 01:51:59,730 --> 01:52:02,830 I said, "Let me Just go back there just To see her before I leave." 2213 01:52:02,830 --> 01:52:05,070 He said, "No, you're not Going to do anything. 2214 01:52:05,070 --> 01:52:07,700 You're going To get on this bus And stay on this bus." 2215 01:52:07,700 --> 01:52:10,470 Just like that, So I had to make A decision 2216 01:52:10,470 --> 01:52:14,000 Whether to go Against authority And get myself in trouble 2217 01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:16,800 Or to just Leave it alone, 2218 01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:19,400 And I can handle it A little better later on. 2219 01:52:19,400 --> 01:52:22,030 So I prayed to myself, 2220 01:52:22,030 --> 01:52:24,270 And the voice within me 2221 01:52:24,270 --> 01:52:27,430 Told me just To get on the bus, Don't do anything, 2222 01:52:27,430 --> 01:52:29,700 Just stand still And watch my salvation. 2223 01:52:39,770 --> 01:52:41,900 Here we are in what's Real the oldest part 2224 01:52:41,900 --> 01:52:44,470 Of the airport terminal, Built in 1959, 2225 01:52:44,470 --> 01:52:46,770 And today it's doing Its normal function, 2226 01:52:46,770 --> 01:52:49,030 Which is being A quiet waiting area 2227 01:52:49,030 --> 01:52:51,600 Before you go Through security And go to your plane. 2228 01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:54,300 A few shops are open, And it looks pretty normal. 2229 01:52:54,300 --> 01:52:56,170 But at the height Of the evacuation 2230 01:52:56,170 --> 01:52:58,600 This was an entirely Different facility. 2231 01:52:58,600 --> 01:53:01,170 It was filled with people, People hoping to get out, 2232 01:53:01,170 --> 01:53:04,070 Hoping to get away From the disaster That was Katrina. 2233 01:53:04,070 --> 01:53:07,130 Phyllis montana leblanc: When we got here, we had Blisters on our feet. 2234 01:53:07,130 --> 01:53:10,470 So on top of the blisters We stood for 15 hours. 2235 01:53:10,470 --> 01:53:12,230 I counted them. 2236 01:53:12,230 --> 01:53:14,400 There was a group Called "The ice unit." 2237 01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:17,400 They weren't here When we got here, They were brought in, 2238 01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:19,330 And this was To keep "Order," 2239 01:53:19,330 --> 01:53:21,070 Because we were Getting out of order, 2240 01:53:21,070 --> 01:53:24,700 Because people were yelling, "My child is dying," "My mother is dying." 2241 01:53:24,700 --> 01:53:26,270 We were getting Out of order. 2242 01:53:26,270 --> 01:53:29,530 By day, the ticket lobby Was filled with evacuees Waiting, 2243 01:53:29,530 --> 01:53:33,430 Standing in line patiently, Hoping to make that Next flight. 2244 01:53:33,430 --> 01:53:36,500 But as the day Would come to an end, Each night again, 2245 01:53:36,500 --> 01:53:38,300 All of the folks In this lobby-- 2246 01:53:38,300 --> 01:53:42,770 We estimate In these two lobbies At peak 8,000 people-- 2247 01:53:42,770 --> 01:53:45,730 Would have to find Someplace to bed down For the night. 2248 01:53:45,730 --> 01:53:48,800 Right now, no firm numbers On the number of people 2249 01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:50,970 Inside of this main terminal. 2250 01:53:50,970 --> 01:53:53,730 About 4,000 is what They are guesstimating At this point. 2251 01:53:53,730 --> 01:53:56,400 O'brien: The first week, we actually Were in the studio. 2252 01:53:56,400 --> 01:53:58,300 When the hurricane hit, We reported on it, 2253 01:53:58,300 --> 01:54:00,670 We were on the air As it was making landfall, 2254 01:54:00,670 --> 01:54:04,070 And then we Went to New Orleans Right after that. 2255 01:54:04,070 --> 01:54:07,030 And then we got Into the airport, And that was the real shocker. 2256 01:54:07,030 --> 01:54:09,700 It was just full And full of people. 2257 01:54:09,700 --> 01:54:14,230 Every hallway in this Part of the airport, Full of people. 2258 01:54:14,230 --> 01:54:18,130 And then upstairs was The sort of hospital Triage area. 2259 01:54:18,130 --> 01:54:20,500 So what you had was A lot of really old people 2260 01:54:20,500 --> 01:54:23,100 Either on gurneys, Or in wheelchairs, 2261 01:54:23,100 --> 01:54:25,730 Or with canes, Hooked to I.V.S. 2262 01:54:25,730 --> 01:54:29,430 The stench Was unbelievable. It was just filthy. 2263 01:54:29,430 --> 01:54:33,970 And so many people That just went on And on and on. 2264 01:54:33,970 --> 01:54:36,730 They had to... 2265 01:54:36,730 --> 01:54:39,170 Basically corral us 2266 01:54:39,170 --> 01:54:41,900 In an area where there Were children fainting. 2267 01:54:41,900 --> 01:54:43,700 I had to keep coming In the cool area, 2268 01:54:43,700 --> 01:54:46,700 Because I kept getting What I'm thinking were Panic attacks, 2269 01:54:46,700 --> 01:54:49,030 Anxiety attacks, Because there was no air. 2270 01:54:49,030 --> 01:54:53,370 People were packed In here from this wall To over here. 2271 01:54:53,370 --> 01:54:56,100 And when I say "Wall-to-wall"-- 2272 01:54:56,100 --> 01:54:58,600 Four, five times over Wall-to-wall. 2273 01:54:58,600 --> 01:55:01,900 The line was, like, 20-people wide, 2274 01:55:01,900 --> 01:55:04,570 And it was just snaking Through the entire airport-- 2275 01:55:04,570 --> 01:55:08,100 From the downstairs Through the upstairs Through the security. 2276 01:55:08,100 --> 01:55:10,830 Thankfully, Despite the vast crowds, 2277 01:55:10,830 --> 01:55:13,570 Despite the uncertainty, Despite all the pressure 2278 01:55:13,570 --> 01:55:16,300 On all of these folks That all of them were feeling, 2279 01:55:16,300 --> 01:55:19,070 We did not have Any significant crime, 2280 01:55:19,070 --> 01:55:22,500 Any significant violence. It was an orderly process 2281 01:55:22,500 --> 01:55:26,030 To, I think, Everyone's amazement, And thankfully so. 2282 01:55:26,030 --> 01:55:28,630 Petri laurimaa: And then it's like-- 2283 01:55:28,630 --> 01:55:32,200 At these checkout points You get a little sandwich 2284 01:55:32,200 --> 01:55:36,770 And something to drink. There's a cardboard box, 2285 01:55:36,770 --> 01:55:39,500 And the guards go, "Throw your Guns there. 2286 01:55:39,500 --> 01:55:42,400 - no questions asked." - yeah, guns, knives, Whatever. 2287 01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:44,570 "Just get rid Of them," 2288 01:55:44,570 --> 01:55:47,430 And all the way, There was maybe 2289 01:55:47,430 --> 01:55:50,670 Seven or eight That kind of points, And there were actually-- 2290 01:55:50,670 --> 01:55:54,830 Yeah, they kept just yelling Out the different things you Couldn't take on the airplane. 2291 01:55:54,830 --> 01:55:57,330 It was a great list, Because it covered Everything. 2292 01:55:57,330 --> 01:56:00,630 We finally got able To go to the door. Hour 15-- We walked through the door. 2293 01:56:00,630 --> 01:56:04,030 And I'm walking through, Like, "Okay, we're finally Through this shit." 2294 01:56:04,030 --> 01:56:07,130 Metal detector For what? We have nothing. What metal detector? 2295 01:56:07,130 --> 01:56:09,330 "Do you have any drugs on you? Do you have.-" 2296 01:56:09,330 --> 01:56:12,230 If I did, I'd smoke them. Fuck. 2297 01:56:12,230 --> 01:56:15,070 But at any rate, We get through the door-- 2298 01:56:15,070 --> 01:56:17,270 So I'm just like trying To get through the shit. 2299 01:56:17,270 --> 01:56:19,800 She's standing There looking at me. What they call, 2300 01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:21,800 I learned this in d.C., "Gritting" on me. 2301 01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:24,330 Like she wanted to fight, Which is not a good thing. 2302 01:56:24,330 --> 01:56:26,230 I mean, I don't know Who I am, 2303 01:56:26,230 --> 01:56:29,000 So when I whip your ass, I'm not going to know Who you are either. 2304 01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:32,170 So I'm like, "What the fuck are you looking At me like that for?" right? 2305 01:56:32,170 --> 01:56:34,670 So she's like, "Um, do we have a problem?" "Not fucking yet, 2306 01:56:34,670 --> 01:56:36,970 But come here, Let me whisper something In your ear. 2307 01:56:36,970 --> 01:56:39,430 You know what? You're on your job and I'm Not on my job. 2308 01:56:39,430 --> 01:56:41,200 Let's take this Fucking shit outside." 2309 01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:43,070 You whisper something Where nobody else can hear, 2310 01:56:43,070 --> 01:56:46,100 Because I'm that angry, I just want to take you Where nobody else can see you, 2311 01:56:46,100 --> 01:56:49,100 Fuck you up And go on about my business. You know what I'm saying? 2312 01:56:49,100 --> 01:56:52,230 Because you're standing here In air conditioning with A goddamn uniform on, 2313 01:56:52,230 --> 01:56:55,570 Never mind how much they Pay you, but the stupid-ass Attitude behind it. 2314 01:56:55,570 --> 01:56:59,130 We're out here suffering-- And not just because your skin Is black like mine is, 2315 01:56:59,130 --> 01:57:02,330 But some fucking sympathy, Some compassion, empathy, Anything. 2316 01:57:08,930 --> 01:57:12,230 Sarah dean: They told us they thought It was going to san antonio. 2317 01:57:12,230 --> 01:57:14,830 - so then we Got on the plane... - we called everyone. 2318 01:57:14,830 --> 01:57:17,970 - we're trying to get-- - trying to get a pick-up From san antonio. 2319 01:57:17,970 --> 01:57:20,200 "Does anybody have A friend in san antonio?" 2320 01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:22,170 We wound up getting up 2321 01:57:22,170 --> 01:57:26,230 On the dallas-Louisiana- Shreveport welcome station, 2322 01:57:26,230 --> 01:57:30,470 Where we got off the bus, Because we was too scared To go further. 2323 01:57:30,470 --> 01:57:32,870 Told my bus driver, said, "Where are we going?" 2324 01:57:32,870 --> 01:57:35,430 He said, "They didn't tell us Where we're going." 2325 01:57:35,430 --> 01:57:39,100 They had 56 buses That convoyed us to... 2326 01:57:39,100 --> 01:57:41,170 Muskogee, oklahoma. 2327 01:57:41,170 --> 01:57:44,830 Then I realized they Were trying to ship us off To utah in an airplane. 2328 01:57:44,830 --> 01:57:48,470 I was like, "No no, I don't want to go to utah. I want to go to baton rouge." 2329 01:57:48,470 --> 01:57:50,830 We got on a plane And we didn't know Where we were going. 2330 01:57:50,830 --> 01:57:53,470 They didn't tell us Where we were going Until we actually got there. 2331 01:57:53,470 --> 01:57:55,900 And figured out. We saw a sign that Said "Texas," okay? 2332 01:57:55,900 --> 01:57:57,300 And san antonio At that. 2333 01:57:57,300 --> 01:57:59,170 So they took us Up to oklahoma. 2334 01:57:59,170 --> 01:58:01,470 - lee: oklahoma? - oklahoma. 2335 01:58:01,470 --> 01:58:04,900 - how long is the bus ride? - 30 hours. 30 hours. 2336 01:58:04,900 --> 01:58:07,030 Some of my family Is in utah. 2337 01:58:07,030 --> 01:58:09,170 Some of my family Is in colorado. 2338 01:58:09,170 --> 01:58:12,470 First place I headed, I made it to tennessee, 2339 01:58:12,470 --> 01:58:15,000 Slept there for a night. And then I went 2340 01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:18,670 To some relatives Of my girlfriend in evergreen. 2341 01:58:18,670 --> 01:58:20,000 Then I wen- 2342 01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:21,870 - lee: where's that? - evergreen, alabama. 2343 01:58:21,870 --> 01:58:25,800 We've been to lafayette, Gonzales, baton rouge, 2344 01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:27,970 South carolina, orlando. 2345 01:58:27,970 --> 01:58:31,130 And some went to eugene, Some went to baton rouge, 2346 01:58:31,130 --> 01:58:33,770 Some went to atlanta. 2347 01:58:33,770 --> 01:58:36,370 My mom was in houston. 2348 01:58:36,370 --> 01:58:40,030 My sister phyllis was In san antonio, texas. 2349 01:58:40,030 --> 01:58:42,630 And then I went To pensacola, florida. 2350 01:58:42,630 --> 01:58:44,930 And then I went back To evergreen. 2351 01:58:44,930 --> 01:58:46,930 Then I made it To atlanta. 2352 01:58:46,930 --> 01:58:50,400 Some of 'em is In houston, texas, 2353 01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:53,800 Some of 'em is In fort worth, texas. 2354 01:58:53,800 --> 01:58:56,800 My uncle james was On an army base in utah, 2355 01:58:56,800 --> 01:59:00,670 My niece alicia And her mother carla, 2356 01:59:00,670 --> 01:59:03,300 They were In Lafayette, Louisiana. 2357 01:59:03,300 --> 01:59:05,100 Jahiya and I Were in new york. 2358 01:59:05,100 --> 01:59:07,570 They went to lafayette, They went to hammond, 2359 01:59:07,570 --> 01:59:09,330 And the worst part About that-- 2360 01:59:09,330 --> 01:59:11,600 They were sending you Where they want to send you. 2361 01:59:11,600 --> 01:59:14,130 They'd tell you, "I've got relatives in atlanta. 2362 01:59:14,130 --> 01:59:16,100 It'd be great if I Could get to atlanta." 2363 01:59:16,100 --> 01:59:19,330 Knowing what I knew, Knowing that if they waited For the atlanta plane, 2364 01:59:19,330 --> 01:59:21,330 They might be there Two or three more days, 2365 01:59:21,330 --> 01:59:24,230 And whether they got To dallas or oklahoma city Or wherever, 2366 01:59:24,230 --> 01:59:27,000 They were At least getting back To civilization. 2367 01:59:27,000 --> 01:59:29,730 With the evacuation 2368 01:59:29,730 --> 01:59:32,200 Scattering my family 2369 01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:34,430 All over The united states, 2370 01:59:34,430 --> 01:59:38,800 I felt like it was An ancient memory, 2371 01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:42,130 As if we had been up On the auction block. 2372 01:59:42,130 --> 01:59:44,700 Some people suggested that This was akin to slavery. 2373 01:59:44,700 --> 01:59:46,570 "Oh no, You're being hyperbolic. 2374 01:59:46,570 --> 01:59:49,470 You're just engaging In all forms 2375 01:59:49,470 --> 01:59:52,500 Of racial Inflammatory rhetoric. Calm down." 2376 01:59:52,500 --> 01:59:55,370 Well, the fact is, They were treating them 2377 01:59:55,370 --> 01:59:58,130 Like slaves In the ship. 2378 01:59:58,130 --> 01:59:59,800 Families were Being separated. 2379 01:59:59,800 --> 02:00:02,930 Children were Being taken from their Mothers and fathers. 2380 02:00:02,930 --> 02:00:05,770 Those who were More weary 2381 02:00:05,770 --> 02:00:08,630 And those who Were more likely To be vulnerable 2382 02:00:08,630 --> 02:00:11,200 Were separated From those who Were stronger. 2383 02:00:11,200 --> 02:00:15,530 Babies literally ripped Out of the arms of their Mothers and fathers. 2384 02:00:15,530 --> 02:00:19,600 The separation Of the evacuation, Where people lost sight 2385 02:00:19,600 --> 02:00:23,530 And lost sound And lost sense Of their loved ones. 2386 02:01:32,630 --> 02:01:35,100 A lot of people Have been asking us, "What's it like now?" 2387 02:01:35,100 --> 02:01:37,070 And it's essentially A ghost town. 2388 02:01:37,070 --> 02:01:39,400 Choppers fly Overhead as well, And it's relatively quiet. 2389 02:01:39,400 --> 02:01:41,370 We wanted, though, To take a tour of a center 2390 02:01:41,370 --> 02:01:44,030 That many people heard about-- The convention center-- 2391 02:01:44,030 --> 02:01:46,200 To show you what it looks Like right now. 2392 02:01:46,200 --> 02:01:48,870 The first thing You notice-- the smell. 2393 02:01:48,870 --> 02:01:52,900 It smells like-- It smells like dead bodies. 2394 02:01:52,900 --> 02:01:54,970 It smells like urine. 2395 02:01:54,970 --> 02:01:58,270 It smells like People who've waded Through sewage... 2396 02:01:58,270 --> 02:02:01,270 O'brien: The moment I knew How bad it was 2397 02:02:01,270 --> 02:02:03,230 Was when I was covering The convention center. 2398 02:02:03,230 --> 02:02:04,770 I was doing a story. We walked through. 2399 02:02:04,770 --> 02:02:06,730 It was weird. There was just Nobody there. 2400 02:02:06,730 --> 02:02:08,400 It's empty, And everything's open, 2401 02:02:08,400 --> 02:02:10,230 And just filthy. All the garbage was Still there. 2402 02:02:10,230 --> 02:02:13,200 As we walked back Across the street from The convention center-- 2403 02:02:13,200 --> 02:02:14,830 Which is a huge Convention center. 2404 02:02:14,830 --> 02:02:17,370 It goes on for blocks And blocks and blocks-- A dead guy. 2405 02:02:17,370 --> 02:02:19,330 Under this comforter-- 2406 02:02:19,330 --> 02:02:23,770 Someone has covered up-- It's a dead body, 2407 02:02:23,770 --> 02:02:27,030 And at some point They'll figure it out And move it off. 2408 02:02:27,030 --> 02:02:29,500 Two days later, I come back to do A stand-up-- 2409 02:02:29,500 --> 02:02:33,230 Same backdrop... Dead guy still there. 2410 02:02:33,230 --> 02:02:36,070 And that to me was A sign of just How chaotic-- 2411 02:02:36,070 --> 02:02:39,730 I mean that a dead man In the middle of the street In New Orleans, 2412 02:02:39,730 --> 02:02:42,770 Which is a major city, Didn't merit being Cleaned up, 2413 02:02:42,770 --> 02:02:45,670 And picked up, Because there were so Many other priorities. 2414 02:02:45,670 --> 02:02:47,900 People stopped us Because they knew-- 2415 02:02:47,900 --> 02:02:49,930 We had "Times-picayune" Written on our truck. 2416 02:02:49,930 --> 02:02:51,870 They wanted help. They were pointing Out stuff-- 2417 02:02:51,870 --> 02:02:53,530 "There's dead bodies up On top of the interstate. 2418 02:02:53,530 --> 02:02:55,130 Is anyone going To come and get them?" 2419 02:02:55,130 --> 02:02:57,130 I saw them with my own eyes. There were dead people. 2420 02:02:57,130 --> 02:02:59,500 People's family members Had taken them up On the interstate 2421 02:02:59,500 --> 02:03:01,400 Because they didn't want To leave them in the houses, 2422 02:03:01,400 --> 02:03:03,670 And they were laying there, Covered with blankets, 2423 02:03:03,670 --> 02:03:06,270 Up on I-10, And no one's coming To pick them up. 2424 02:03:06,270 --> 02:03:08,230 It's a mess now. 2425 02:03:08,230 --> 02:03:10,130 I've seen a lot of dead People floating. 2426 02:03:10,130 --> 02:03:12,600 My buddy was over the gate, Round the corner. 2427 02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:15,770 He swolled up this big, man. His name was eddie. 2428 02:04:32,130 --> 02:04:35,900 Alexander: Blessed are the ones Who sacrificed 2429 02:04:35,900 --> 02:04:38,500 Their lives to save us-- You truly are dedicated. 2430 02:04:38,500 --> 02:04:41,770 And blessed are the ones Who cried-- your tears Will not be wasted. 2431 02:04:41,770 --> 02:04:44,270 And blessed are the ones Who were lost and displaced 2432 02:04:44,270 --> 02:04:47,630 And whose houses were Knocked off its foundation By winds and tidal waves. 2433 02:04:47,630 --> 02:04:49,530 Cemeteries Turned into mazes. 2434 02:04:49,530 --> 02:04:51,970 Caskets coming Out of their graves, Like they was in texas, 2435 02:04:51,970 --> 02:04:53,500 And they was Sitting sideways. 2436 02:04:53,500 --> 02:04:55,470 Days for days, I'm seeing skeletal remains, 2437 02:04:55,470 --> 02:04:57,800 Remains scattered And unclaimed, That's a shame. 2438 02:04:57,800 --> 02:05:00,570 Bush said he accepted The blame, so tell me Why they playing games 2439 02:05:00,570 --> 02:05:02,570 With the money, Trying to give us The change? 2440 02:05:02,570 --> 02:05:05,100 Our neighborhoods are being Reconfigured to be rearranged. 2441 02:05:05,100 --> 02:05:07,300 Everything is strange. I know you can, because I... 2442 02:05:07,300 --> 02:05:10,970 ( singing ) 2443 02:05:14,970 --> 02:05:17,900 ...They done signed my name, I proclaim, and jesus Done led me 2444 02:05:17,900 --> 02:05:20,500 Through the fire, The storm, the hurricane, And the rain. 2445 02:05:20,500 --> 02:05:23,830 Broke off the chains. Loosen up their hands Then kicked in the frame. 2446 02:05:23,830 --> 02:05:26,270 You don't even have To remember my name. 2447 02:05:26,270 --> 02:05:28,700 I told you I would be here, 2448 02:05:28,700 --> 02:05:30,700 With some partners That I came. 2449 02:05:30,700 --> 02:05:34,330 I'm leaving, But I'll be back again. 2450 02:05:34,330 --> 02:05:37,300 Will you be there? 2451 02:05:37,300 --> 02:05:40,030 ( score playing ) 2452 02:06:43,070 --> 02:06:45,570 ( '50s music playing ) 207490

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