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(footsteps plodding)

- [Jeremy] I often wonder about the nature of reality,

about our relationship to the creative force

that forged the particles of our stars

and intertwined them with the molecules of our bodies.

Who are we, and where are we actually sitting

within the architecture of our universe?

Are we alone, or is the answer simply stranger

than we can think?

My name is Jeremy Corbell.

I seek to weaponize your curiosity.

And if you're ready to suspend your own prejudice,

welcome to the world of extraordinary beliefs.

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(voice speaking indistinctly)

(tone pulsating)

(patient 17 exhales)

(water sloshing)

(patient exhaling)

(patient 17 sniffs)

(stove clicking)

(gas whooshing)

(stove clicking) (gas hissing)

(brooding music)

(pan clanking)

(egg thudding)

(egg cracking)

(egg sizzling)

(toaster clattering)

- [Patient 17] I've just so grown tired

of all of this already.

My world will not be turned upside down.

I just wanna live my life.

I mean, you don't wanna relive this.

Either people are gonna believe you, or you don't.

It's kind of put me on edge again.

(bells chiming)

(footsteps plodding) (floor creaking)

(keys jangling)

(latch clicking)

Dr. Roger Leir did confirm I was gonna be patient number 17.

- [Jeremy] So you're gonna get this thing out?

- [Patient 17] That's what he's telling me.

- [Jeremy] And what did you know of Dr. Leir before?

- [Patient 17] Absolutely nothing,

I knew nothing about Dr. Leir until I was introduced.

(engine roaring)

- [Jeremy] Would you consider your life

to have been completely normal up until the point

where you've engaged these people interested in your story?

- [Patient 17] My life has been normal,

but it did get thrown into a storm

once I met these UFO folks.

(engine roaring)

When Dr. Leir and his associates told me

that this could be an implant,

now it's all been brought back up to the surface.

I'm wondering what I'm gonna see in the shadows,

or is there missing time?

This is scarier than hell.

(engine roaring)

(brooding music) (engine humming)

- [Jeremy] So you've met Dr. Leir.

Do you trust him? (brooding music continues)

- [Patient 17] You know, I don't trust anybody

in today's world.

(engine roaring)

I just want all this to end.

I just want it removed, not have to worry about a piece

of metal floating around in my body.

(air whooshing) (flesh squelching)

(insects chirping) (brooding music continues)

(sound waves whistling) (static hissing)

(radio frequencies whirring)

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- [Radio Host] Good evening, everyone.

You're in the right place at the right time.

This is "Coast to Coast AM."

We're gonna be joined by Dr. Roger Leir,

one of the most important leaders in the search

for physical evidence in the field of ufology.

As listeners to this program know,

he's been on the program many times.

He and his surgical team have performed all kinds

of surgeries on alleged alien abductees.

(static hissing)

(tone blaring)

(radio frequencies whirring)

(birds chirping and squawking)

(traffic whooshing)

(cart clattering) (birds chirping)

(pensive music)

- [Dr. Leir] This mystery is

kinda like a musical composition.

If you're missing a note or two,

you probably wouldn't be able to make sense of it all.

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- [Jeremy] I was recently introduced to a surgeon who claims

to remove implants, nanotechnology microchips

embedded by aliens, non-humans monitoring our earth.

He talked about abductions, scalar wave transmissions,

and a program to study or manipulate the human race.

Armed with a patient, a scalpel, black lights,

and a stud finder, (device beeping)

I was eager to verify the authenticity

of this alleged off-world implant technology.

- It's not broadcasting in this electromagnetic spectrum

at all but is using scalar wave technology.

And then when we use our electromagnetic devices

and pick up a radio wave,

we're actually reading a harmonic.

- [Technician] It would be right about here.

I feel something vaguely.

Whether that's the foreign material or not, I don't know.

We've got the X-ray with us right here.

We lay it down on his leg.

You can see this little spot here that shows through.

- [Patient 17] Yeah.

- [Technician] So it would be about here.

So, you know, sometimes you talk yourself into something.

You're not sure if you really feel it or no,

but you have to know it when you're gonna do it.

(device beeping)

- [Dr. Leir] It's gotta be right there.

(device continues beeping)

- [Jeremy] Well, you have optics anyway, right?

You have ultrasound optics you're using?

- [Technician] Right here, yeah, so I'll show 'em

when I do the ultrasound, so we're not gonna guess it.

We're gonna find it. - Yeah.

- [Technician] So this is the ultrasound goo.

So I'm gonna go straight up and down on this.

- [Jeremy] So, Dr. Leir, what are we experiencing right now?

- We're using ultrasound to try

and locate the exact position of the object.

It's not easy because it's not only superficial,

but it's also close to the bone.

So we're using ultrasound to try and locate it.

- That's it right there. (person whistling)

- [Dr. Leir] Yeah.

(technician laughs)

- Pretty sure, Doctor, somebody just didn't slip you a 50,

just cut 'em.

(Dr. Leir laughing)

- So now we're gonna draw the patient's blood,

and then we put it in a centrifuge, and spin it down,

and separate the cellular portion

of the blood from the liquid.

(machine whirring)

And then that cellular portion is then mixed

a anticoagulant preservative.

And that's what we actually use to put the object in.

Then when we take out small pieces

of the surrounding tissue, that goes into a pathology lab.

The object undoubtedly is some form of metal.

So that goes into a metallurgical process,

one step at a time where we look at it

under an electron microscope and some other tests

that we do to look for isotopes

and non-terrestriality, - [Jeremy] Non-terrestriality.

It is alleged that many of these mysterious objects

that Dr. Leir and his team have removed display

bizarre characteristics such as having nanotopography

and metallic composition described by some labs

as exotic meteorite material,

not having been forged in the furnace of our own sun.

- [Researcher] I don't think

that you've been abducted recently-

- No. - Based on this.

- [Jeremy] As a surgeon, I know it's not your position

to speculate on the origin of this object,

but obviously, you know the story going around

that maybe there's a correlation

between the abduction phenomena and these types of objects.

- Well, it's interesting.

I mean, I don't know if you wanna quote me on this,

but I just don't believe it's alien.

I believe it's some earthly particle

that's from some carpentry thing.

They whack something.

A little piece of metal flew off and stuck in 'em.

They don't remember it 'cause it was so tiny.

And then those people, enough people have 'em,

people with abductive experiences (laughs)

also may have the metal, so I don't know.

He's doing the analysis on the metal.

So I'm not, and that's where the things come in.

I would reanalyze the metal,

have another group analyze it and look at it

if it was me doing it. (pensive music)

- [Researcher] Yeah, that up there, yeah, sort of-

- [Jeremy] A foreign object was about to be removed

from a man carrying this burden for over a decade,

nefarious implant by an extraterrestrial big brother

or a piece of childhood shrapnel?

I personally wanted to see

what this foreign object was made of.

- This piece of metal's in my leg or whatever it is,

and it's been there for God how long,

so be nice yank it out, do the experiments on it,

and see what it is.

Like I said, I have some people in my life

that just shake their heads.

My girlfriend, my mom, a few other people are just saying,

"Don't let 'em do it."

It's a small incision.

It's not like they're going into my lung,

a few stitches, and it's a pretty simple procedure.

- [Jeremy] Small incision, big mystery.

- Yes. (Jeremy laughing)

- [Jeremy] Were you surprised when they used the device

for frequency, that what was in your leg seemed

to be emitting-

- That's pretty amazing. - A frequency?

- If that test is accurate, this is really an implant.

Just by fluke, we found it.

One thing led to another, and here we are today.

- [Jeremy] Thing, I mean it sounds like you've had

some powerful experiences that have at least led you

to entertaining the idea that, you know,

there are non-humans, they are visiting the planet,

and that, you know, they are engaging humanity.

- [Patient 17] The memories were as a child.

I thought I had a couple abductions.

Parents put locks high on the door when I was a young guy

so I wouldn't drown in the pool,

and they'd find me outside, and the locks were still locked.

I remember waking up and being elevated on my back,

straight up and feeling my nightgown being pulled back.

My thoughts were, "Man, I'm really going up quick

if you can feel the clothes on your body being pulled back."

So that was, like, the last time.

This felt like they were up to no good.

- [Jeremy] Have you ever seen a UFO?

- [Patient 17] No.

- [Jeremy] Never have?

- [Patient 17] Not that I remember.

- You've witnessed- - There's no insanity

in my family, and we're healthy as logs,

and this has somehow happened.

- [Researcher] That's my little incision.

We spread it a little bit, and the question is,

is it next to the skin, or is it next to the fascia?

Well, I think it's close to both.

- [Dr. Leir] Probably.

Well, I think it said it was subcutaneous,

so it's probably between the skin and the fascia.

- [Researcher] We're gonna use a little metal

with this thing, see if I feel it click.

No.

Sometimes you can find 'em just by a little click.

No.

- [Dr. Leir] Usually, oh, what was that?

- [Jeremy] As I watched hopeful believers slice an opening

into the flesh suit of a living man,

I began to reflect on exactly what was going on.

An alleged abductee, patient number 17,

standing at over six foot nine inches tall,

was a human monolith, a force of nature,

and like the old cowboys of past,

an absolutely honest man,

one of those people, soft spoken, stoic,

who is genuinely looking for answers to questions

that have plagued him since childhood.

And all I could think was,

what the fuck is about to be pulled out of this man's leg?

- [Researcher] Can you see it? Little spot there?

- Oh, yeah, there it is. - Little black spot.

- Yeah, yeah, right there. - That is it.

Now it's a little bigger than that. See?

So we'll get it with some

of the surrounding tissue around it.

- [Jeremy] No wonder it was so invisible in the ultrasound.

- It wasn't very big. - Wow.

- [Researcher] So that is the entire thing right there.

I'll put it right here, right there.

I'll shine the light around it a little better.

(heartbeat thudding)

Here, I'll show it to you.

That's the whole thing.

- Wow.

- Let's see, we have a sponge. - Amazing.

- We'll put the soft tissue in that,

and then this will go in the serum.

So did you wanna get a closeup of this?

(heartbeat thudding)

Don't put it in anything till I dissect off the tissue.

(researchers chattering indistinctly)

I'll leave a little piece of soft tissue on there

so that when we use things like electron microscope,

which we'll do with SEAL Labs,

that soft tissue will show up under the electron microscope.

- [Jeremy] So, Roger, a success today?

- Oh, yeah, I'm very happy with the results

that we got today, you know.

The object, it appeared, it went through all the testing,

we got it out, and now we're gonna, you know, look at it

and see what both the biological

and the metallurgical components are that it's made.

And that will determine, you know, whether we have something

that's out of the rose garden

or something that's non-terrestrial.

- [Jeremy] Do not underestimate the cosmopolitics

of an alleged alien implant removal surgery.

Word had spread, and many faithful arrived with camcorders

and flooded the waiting room with anticipation.

Patient number 17 quietly made his exit

through the back door, avoiding the crowd that had formed

to glimpse that which has yet to be explained.

- [Dr. Leir] Just as I'm learning more about music

and harmonics, I'm also learning more

about the nature of the cosmos and reality.

(heartbeat thudding)

- [Jeremy] When traversing uncharted territories

and exploring alleged

and advanced nanocybernetic transmitters believed

to have been embedded into a human host

to monitor unknown rhythms, fields,

and energies, to transmit scalar wave frequencies

to beings with hidden intentions

who either traverse space-time

or dimensionally shift into our reality.

There are key moments in your investigation

that require a monumental leap of faith,

or of course, you can just go

to your local scanning electron microscopy lab

to actually see what it is that you have.

- My name is Steve Colbern. I'm a material scientist.

I work on carbon nanotubes at my primary job,

and I'm Roger's head scientist

in the ANS research organization that he founded.

- [Dr. Leir] Must be stuck some place.

There it is.

- [Researcher] Religion made those guys, too.

It's all one world?

- Yeah. - That's what they're saying?

- Kind of. - This is

the official testing, a foreign body

that was removed from you.

Are you curious about it all?

- Absolutely.

- What do you- - A mystery.

- [Jeremy] It is a mystery.

Do you think we'll solve it today?

- Yes, we will.

- So- - Yeah.

- [Researcher] Thousands of 'em.

- [Researcher] Is it shining on the inside, Steve?

- Yeah, we see metal.

- Cool. - Definitely metal.

All right, let's load it back up.

- [Dr. Leir] Now do you wanna remount it

so that we got it sitting up on end?

- [Researcher] Test it with the gauss meter?

- [Dr. Leir] That would be a good idea.

- [Researcher] Hold on, Steve gauss meter test.

- [Dr. Leir] Finger off, just hold it straight up.

Okay. (device clicking)

Hmm, you're getting a little bit.

- A little bit. - Little bit.

- [Researcher] Not much.

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- [Steve] This diagnostic's really unstructured.

- Yeah? - Checking.

(machine whirring)

- There. - Right there?

- [Jeremy] With the power to look at the object

at almost the atomic level, an alien landscape emerged

similar to topographical surveys

of our stars' celestial satellites

orbiting our solar center.

Structures and shapes began to take form within my mind.

Spectral analysis, seeking explanation of composition,

measurements of features, which looked like mountains

and valleys, were taken with great precision.

I was hopeful that today patient number 17

would be given some answers.

- [Steve] A nerve would also probably wither up

under the electron bombardment.

(heartbeat thudding)

- [Jeremy] So, Roger, is there anything that surprised you

so far from today's analysis?

- Yes,

that the visualization of something

that may be a carbon nanotube

at a low magnification is kind of surprising.

- [Jeremy] And what would prove that it's a carbon nanotube?

- Well, when we look

at the chemical components,

which is the peaks on the screen, we can see that,

on that particular one, it's all carbon.

Then we'll have to go on with other testing

with what's called Raman spectroscopy

and a couple of other tests

to determine actually if it is a carbon nanotube.

- [Jeremy] Will you be able to do that today or?

- No.

- [Jeremy] You got your first look at what, you know,

they've pulled outta ya.

What are your thoughts?

- It's just interesting.

Like I said, it still could be this is

a rock from childhood,

or it could be a meteorite piece from space.

You just never know until breakdown.

- [Jeremy] You're saying is,

"I'm just trying to figure out what this is."

- The mechanics of this object in my leg

'cause I consider myself a Christian,

and if this thing's mister space alien deal,

it kind of blows everything I've believed in

for the last 50 years out the water, I mean, technically.

I mean... Yeah. - It doesn't go around

implanting people, and there's, you know what I mean?

It's just kinda puts Christianity

and the question of, is it true or not?

In a way, I hope this is just a rock

or something from the past.

For my beliefs, if it is, I kind of start rethinking.

- [Jeremy] Would it shake the foundations

of your faith if this was something

from another intelligent species?

- It could definitely.

- [Jeremy] Did you feel that we saw

something anomalous today?

- Yeah, it was definitely anomalous,

and it was very similar to several other objects

that we've seen that were removed from Roger's patients.

The nerve cells grow into the membrane,

and this membrane forms the interface

between the nervous system

and the electronics of the device.

- [Jeremy] What can you say conclusively from today?

- That it's probably

a sophisticated neurotechnological device

rather than just a fragment of something.

These devices seem to be deliberately inserted into people.

There's no portal of entry,

and there's never an inflammatory response to the objects,

which is, you know, highly unusual.

It's unheard of, so when we have the path report back,

that'll tell the tale as well as to whether it's one

of these anomalous objects we've seen before.

My working hypothesis is that these are

nanotechnological devices from off planet

that have been perfected by some society

that has had this technology for a very long time.

I'll send half the object in for ICP-MS analysis,

and that will give us some isotopic ratios

and tell us whether the material is from off planet.

(birds chirping)

- [Researcher] I mean, everybody wants to squeeze

every last bit of information out, every piece of evidence

they can possibly get to try to solve the puzzle

of what's going on.

(bell tolling)

(garage door clattering)

- [Jeremy] While the scientific team was busy

analyzing the composition, structures, and isotopic ratios

of the surgically removed mystery object,

I decided to meet up with patient number 17

and find out more about his abductive experiences

and his post-operation state of mind.

You think that this is sinister.

Like, when you saw the eyes

of those three oval-head alien dudes that you tackled

or tried to tackle in Las Vegas,

you said that you could tell it was sinister.

You could tell it was-

- They're not there to take you out for pizza.

That's for sure.

I mean, they're there to manipulate you somehow,

not to save you or give you a cure for cancer.

They have their own agendas,

and if it didn't, it'd be disclosure already.

I mean, it has to be something behind this to keep it quiet.

- Where did you come to that understanding?

- Of course, their appearances are disturbing,

but it's a sense.

Like, when you meet somebody that's nice and friendly,

you go, "Hey, it's a nice person,"

And with these three people, things in my room,

you just knew, well, they're in your house

without your permission.

You know they're about to maybe take you somewhere

and do whatever they want with you.

I mean, how can that be a good thing?

There's no way they rang the doorbell

and said, "Hey, we're from outer space.

Wanna have a beer?"

I mean, they're gangsters, you know.

Alien gangsters are doing what they want.

God knows what they're doing to people.

At least I was caught and released.

- [Jeremy] What would you say to an alien

that was trying to abduct you if you could?

- I don't know if I'd say anything

rather than just treating like any burglar

that was trying to break into my house

and mess with my family is

shoot 'em dead, you know, take 'em down.

I mean, I think they're criminals.

They're doing what they want

and a lot of cruel things to people, and be nice if,

little payback 'cause this is unreasonable.

How many abductees do you really need?

How many people's lives do you have to ruin?

I mean, you know, man up, show your face, or take off.

And for them to, you know,

always take you on a deserted road or late at night,

they're obviously cowards on top of it.

So they're criminals. They're cowards.

If they're that advanced,

they should be able to talk to us and explain things out

and, you know, comfort us rather than

like mean little kids with a magnifying glass

frying ants on a sunny day, cowards, so leave me alone,

and I hope I can take one of you out when it's possible.

- [Jeremy] You fought back against these alien gangsters.

I mean, you did that day.

- Yep, I was ready to duke it out with 'em.

For some reason, they just didn't wanna deal with it,

but I was able to break that trance.

It was really a weird feeling.

You can't move, and it's like there's no way

this is happening to me tonight.

And I was able to get up and go for it.

Yeah, that's pretty amazing, tell you the truth,

'cause most people can't, so I was able to break.

So they have weaknesses

that you can break through, apparently.

- [Jeremy] Are you saying to me that you feel strongly

that the experiences you had were real?

- Oh, the experiences of childhood are real memories,

and what happened in Vegas with the two abductions

were real, but just fine details aren't there.

Like I said earlier, conversations,

maybe they are doing mental blocks on people

'cause they know how frightening it is

for the human race to deal with all this.

But they still feel like we deal with animals.

They can do what they want with us.

- [Jeremy] Do you feel that you were given a mental block

from the experiences that you had?

- Absolutely, there's no other way

they could have made me forget about it.

So however that's done, I'm glad that's possible

because just knowing they were there in my room

from childhood, sometimes in young adult

and with this possible implant, you kind of feel violated.

I mean, these people are, like, kidnapping you.

You can believe what you want,

but unless you get other people to believe, too,

it just seems like a fairytale.

I mean, it means nothing.

You know, but if you tell people the story,

they look at you like you're crazy, or you're a fool,

or your religious friends think

you're going to the dark side

'cause if there's aliens, there's no God,

which means you're an atheist or something.

So everybody has their opinion on this.

You know, with all this going on,

I'm just, like, a normal guy with extraordinary experiences

that can't really be explained.

You know you've gone through 'em.

But unless you meet other abductees

or somebody in the line of work, nobody believes you.

Nobody really cares.

And they really just wanna put their fingers in their ears

and walk away.

They're just afraid of the truth maybe.

I mean, when it happens to them or they know somebody

personally that this stuff happens to,

maybe they'll open their eyes.

Everybody thought that the world was flat at one time.

Those folks don't want it to be true,

or they're afraid of the truth.

They just weren't nightmares. They were real.

(pensive music)

- [Jeremy] I joined patient number 17

for his postoperative evaluation.

We were to confirm with X-ray

that the entire foreign object was successfully removed

and that the patient was healing properly.

As Dr. Leir explained that the surgery was a success,

I started to get the sense

that patient number 17 was slightly agitated.

- [Patient 17] I guess you guys

haven't analyzed the material yet?

- Well, not anymore than we did at SEAL Labs.

Not every lab does every test.

- [Patient 17] But when I was talking to Richard,

he was saying it's just a sliver of steel

with cotton bits on it from the bandaid

when they pulled it out.

- No. (laughs)

(switches clicking)

We can see it completely devoid of metal postoperatively,

let's see, about two weeks.

And evidently, we have definitively removed

the object that was there before.

There's no pieces left of the object.

So it was removed what we call in toto,

which means the whole thing was excised.

- [Patient 17] You ever find a case

where they put multiples on a person?

- We did two surgeries on the same day,

and that gentleman had one in the back of his hand

that was also a little rod, cantaloupe-seed-shaped object.

And then we had a whole string of 'em

that were about the same that looked like yours.

- So I could still be tagged somewhere else.

- Yeah.

- Guess the memories I have already as a child

and even Las Vegas, couple visits, was enough for me.

I mean, it was just frightening to see these images.

I mean, you just, I mean it's just frightening.

I mean, you just know it's not of this world.

(pensive music)

- [Dr. Leir] Most people want to remember.

- [Jeremy] You're kind of over it, it sounds like.

- [Patient 17] I just wanna get back to my life

of enjoying my family, and riding my dirt bikes,

and move on.

We'll get the data here shortly

and see what it's made out of, and should be game over.

We'll know one way or another what the deal was in my leg.

(pensive music continues)

(sound waves whistling)

(static hissing) (radio frequencies whirring)

(pensive music)

- [Radio Host] Good evening, everyone.

This is "Coast to Coast AM."

We have sad news to report tonight.

Prominent UFO researcher Dr. Roger Leir has passed away

due to a heart attack.

Dr. Leir was a pioneer in the investigation

for physical evidence of extraterrestrial contact.

Roger will be missed.

(static hissing)

(device whirring and beeping)

(sound waves whistling)

- The isotopic ratios of most of these samples

have been highly different from the isotopic ratios

of earthly elements.

The materials come from not only a different place

in the solar system but a different part

of our galaxy entirely.

This is a juvenile of that big one right there.

They apparently turn dark when they get larger.

(water burbling)

And this is Cryptocoryne plant from the Amazon

and Amazon sword plant.

These fish are very aggressive.

They'll eat each other given half the chance.

So it's good to provide 'em places to hide from each other.

(water burbling)

(heartbeat thudding)

After we went to SEAL Labs,

Dr. Leir was in pretty good health at that point,

and he had an apparent heart attack,

and they found him near death, and he died soon after.

And that was about six weeks ago now.

It's a great loss to the UFO community.

And he was a good friend, and

(water burbling)

he was a good friend and a great research associate.

(pensive music) (water continues burbling)

(glasses clanking)

Sorry.

(Steve sniffs)

(water continues burbling) (pensive music continues)

Well, Dr. Leir worked hard in pursuit of the truth,

and he was striving to bring science

to the UFO community and bring the scientific method

to investigate UFO sightings.

And he was particularly interested in hard evidence

of UFO sightings and abductions.

And that's why he got into the implant field

because that's one of the only ways we can get hard evidence

that people have been visited by aliens

with these devices left behind in their bodies.

- [Jeremy] Do you still have patient number 17's sample?

- [Steve] Yes.

(pensive music)

I think most people are like the fish.

Most of the masses of humanity like the fish,

and they don't really know or care

what's outside their immediate sphere of influence.

And we need to be better than that as a race.

(water burbling) (pensive music continues)

- [Jeremy] What are we looking to learn

about patient number 17?

- [Steve] The isotopic analysis will tell us

if the material's from off planet,

so that's very important.

- [Jeremy] Well, if this thing is emitting frequency,

there's gotta be a way to capture that data somehow.

- The ultimate goal is to hack the alien internet.

We have reason to believe there's a complex web

of communication between aliens

and some supercomputer someplace,

and abductees are also plugged into this system.

It's the biggest story of the 20th and 21st centuries.

It's the biggest story never told.

(pensive music)

(engine humming) (birds chirping)

(gear stick clattering)

(door thudding) (birds chirping)

(footsteps plodding) (birds continue chirping)

(nail gun clanking)

(brooding music) (birds chirping)

(tool whirring)

- [Jeremy] It's the waiting that will grind you down.

It's the slow wear and tear of the mental highway.

If it's not true, you're crazy.

If it is true, the implications are even worse.

How do we navigate an experience that is real to us

but will never be real to others?

Do we push it so far down

that we can discount our own perception?

(pensive music)

(birds chirping)

(footsteps plodding)

It's one thing to ask a question.

It's another to receive the answer.

(hand knocking)

(patient 17 and Steve chattering indistinctly)

Is knowledge power?

Or can knowledge be fundamentally destructive?

We've been waiting a long time

to find a broad spectrum elemental analysis

and isotopic analysis that you're gonna be able to read

for us because we wanna know, as patient 17 will often say,

is this a piece of Tonka truck

or just a rock from the ground?

What was it that was taken out of his leg?

And this should be definitive in some way of what it was

that was taken out if it's anomalous or not.

(envelope rustling)

- We got quite a few elements here. Let's see.

We have boron, sodium, magnesium, aluminum,

silicon, phosphorus, potassium, calcium,

titanium, chromium, manganese, iron.

Iron's a major component,

cobalt, nickel, copper, zinc, gallium, germanium.

And the gallium and the germanium are indicative

of the presence of meteoric iron.

Got arsenic, strontium, yttrium.

It's a rare earth element,

zirconium, niobium, molybdenum.

That molybdenum's kinda high.

That's the highest I've seen it in one

of these objects, actually, 405 ppm.

And we have some palladium,

which is also indicative of meteoric iron.

There's quite a few precious metals like palladium,

platinum, rhodium, and meteoric iron.

Lanthanum, that's also rare, barium, hafnium, tantalum,

tungsten, rhenium, (pensive music)

thallium, lead, and there's more.

- As you look at this, Steve,

does it look like it's a cake mix

of they could have used this chemistry

to build something here on the planet?

I mean, is that could be a piece

of steel fragment from something from my past?

- Yeah, it looked like it would be very strong

with iron mixed with all these different elements.

One, two, three, we had 53 elements in object number 15.

So (speaking faintly).

- Seems kinda complex just to be a manmade thing.

I mean, do chemists actually put this stuff together

to make steel objects here?

- Yeah, this is a lot of elements.

12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17.

So we have a total of 36 elements here.

So that is quite complex. (pensive music)

Most industrial alloys don't have

nearly that many elements in them.

- Hmm.

- And so I'd say

this was an iron alloy

with a significant amount of meteoric iron in it,

based on this perhaps 25% meteoric iron

and then with that same biological hard-part type coating

on the outside.

- When you say meteorite, is it like carbon,

like our whole universe is created with,

or I mean is that a common element, meteorite?

- Meteoric iron, like they were the cores

of planets that exploded.

(pensive music)

- Thing that I'm still trying to figure out,

you're the scientist, but what that could have,

what made that up that could have been in my everyday life

instead of the implant.

I mean, it could have been a piece of a nail

or just a ordinary rock embedded in my shin from the past.

- Well, one thing that would be good

to do when we get more funding is

to just take a regular nail

and analyze it at the same lab and see what comes up.

But I can almost guarantee you there there'll only be

about four or five elements in it, and-

- I see. - It will not have

a complex structure like this.

So I don't think there's any way

you could have gotten that

from your ordinary life. - An accident-

- No. - From childhood forward.

- Very unlikely.

- Well, there wasn't ever an entry wound,

and I have no recollection of an injury in that area.

- [Steve] So you have no idea

how long the object had been there?

- Could have been from childhood,

but it started giving me problems in 2005.

Now you mention it,

I'm trying to remember what the pain was

'cause it felt like a railroad spike

being driven through my leg.

But I'm trying to remember the point of entry.

It could have been in the line of the pain.

Been riding my motorcycles on mountain roads,

and it would start kicking in the pain,

and it took all my strength to stop the motorcycle

and lay on the ground without crashing

with the pain. - Wow.

- So, and then it just stopped.

- Do you think the pain was

to punish you somehow or to control you or?

- Well, they all know I've been a bad boy,

but I have no explanation. (pensive music)

- [Steve] The electron micrographs of the object

look very similar to the corresponding pictures

of object number 15, which that turned out to be

a sophisticated nanotechnological device.

- [Jeremy] You're saying, Steve, that this is

a highly complex alloy, 36 different elements,

some of which are rare earth elements.

- Yeah, it's got, for example, 410 ppm of yttrium.

I mean, I know for a fact that no nail

on the market's gonna have that.

- [Jeremy] There's all these different metals in it.

They're highly complex.

They were fabricated. They were put together.

It would be highly expensive and probably difficult

to make a single object out of all of these elements.

- Yeah. - Some of which are very rare,

some of which are even toxic in small amounts.

I mean, this is a very strange object in patient 17's leg

that was taken out.

- Yeah, no doubt, man.

- [Jeremy] You've talked to us about the elemental analysis,

but we also specifically got isotopic analysis.

- Every element on earth

or most elements on earth have more than one isotope,

isotopes being forms of the element

with different atomic weights

and having different numbers of neutrons in the nucleus.

The number of protons in the nucleus defines

what the element is.

And the number of neutrons in the nucleus defines

its exact atomic weight.

So in elements with more than one of these isotopes,

there's a certain pattern, certain ratio

of the isotopes one to another.

And that ratio is characteristic for elements

that originate on earth, and-

- [Jeremy] What do you see in the isotopes?

Are they from here, or are they not?

- They were similar to earthly isotopic ratios

but off by enough where I would tend

to conclude it was from off planet.

- [Jeremy] So you're saying that within these results

for the isotopic percentages,

usually one to 2% could be a miscalculation.

How many percentages are we off by?

- Zinc-64,

we're off by about 2.5%. (pensive music)

So that definitely puts it

into the for sure off-planet range.

And the standard deviation of that measurement

was only 1.25%, so there's not much variation there

or much room for error there.

- [Jeremy] So zinc-64 and zinc-66

have isotopic ratios that are

definitively not from earth?

- Based on these results, I would say yes.

- [Jeremy] It's a federal crime to change,

I mean, it's not like the labs are messing

around with the data.

- Yeah. - And they're looking

at something that is not from here.

- Yeah, and I wanna emphasize

this is not backdoor research or anything.

As you say, it's a federal crime

to alter these results since we did pay it for them.

- They're actually truly mystery metals?

They're not forged on this planet?

- Not- - How do they know what it is?

- You could forge it on this planet,

but the isotopic results are pretty indicative

of it being from off planet, so.

- Well, our planet's a meteorite.

It's a chunk off of something, and then a meteorite,

we think of as this little ball thing floating

through space, but we're- - To get

that type of material- - actually a meteorite.

- from the earth, you'd have to drill into the core.

- [Patient 17] Or it got evacuated from the core

through a volcano, right?

It could be laying around.

They might- - Well, there's parts

of other planetary cores out there on the asteroid belt

that they're flying around, so.

Well, in my opinion,

it's a nanotechnological device

that was probably hooked into your nervous system.

That's what caused the pain,

made of partly meteoric iron

and having a lot of odd elements in it.

- Guess I'm still a little in denial

'cause I wasn't expecting finding material in this object

that from out of this world, not at all.

- Have you seen my report on object number 15?

It's similar to your device.

And I'll stick my neck out a little bit saying

that this is probably a device.

- [Jeremy] Is it the smoking gun

as it says in the magazine article?

- I would say so.

I mean, we would need 100 tests like this

to convince the entire scientific community.

But based on the fact that we're just trying to do this

on what to them would be a shoestring budget,

I think we've got some really good results here.

And I think that this is a strong indication

that the object is from off planet

and a sophisticated device, and we need to, you know,

follow up with some more research.

- I don't have any answers.

I'm still a doubting Thomas on what this could possibly be,

but I'm not jumping for joy

'cause it just affirms that this whole story

and this adventure is true,

and it's just been a nightmare since childhood.

- [Jeremy] You don't want it to be true.

- Not really, yeah, it's a pain.

- Mm-hmm. - And you can't talk to anybody about it-

- No. - Except for other UFO people.

And it does, you just can't even bring it up anywhere.

The media has a taboo. It's like politics.

Once people have their mind set a certain way,

there's no convincing them.

I mean- - How does this make you feel?

Are you surprised by these results?

- Yes, 'cause I honestly thought

it was something from the past.

We don't have control over any of this.

We're just being herded like cattle and tagged,

and who knows what they're doing.

- It does require a period of adjustment,

and it's a door that you can never close again.

(pensive music)

- [Jeremy] What happens to the ego when it confronts a truth

that is poised to transform our belief systems,

and is truth itself a matter of interpretation?

(paper rustling)

- All right, you take care, Steve.

- Yeah, you too. - Good seeing ya, man.

- [Steve] Good to see you, too.

- [Patient 17] We're members of an exclusive club.

(door clattering) (pensive music)

- [Jeremy] You were patient number 15?

- Yeah. - You never told me that.

- I didn't? - No.

- Dr. Leir didn't want me to tell very many people that.

I just was supposed to be the scientist in his organization.

But I went through the whole process.

I lost my marriage over this whole thing.

Or at least that was a major factor.

Yeah, it's been a big deal.

I mean, I never would even entertain a lot of this stuff

if I didn't have physical evidence

that there's something going on.

I've chosen to embrace it in part to get

better treatment on the abductions,

and there's no sense fighting 'em.

I mean, they're far too powerful for that.

All they have to do is turn the mental control up

to level seven from level three,

and they can get you to do whatever they want.

(pensive organ music)

(heartbeat thudding)

(voice speaking indistinctly)

- [Jeremy] Like Schrodinger's famous thought experiment,

I simply wanted to know if the cat in the box

was dead or alive.

Is this object anomalous or not?

The facts of the analysis do not lie,

but the interpretation seems to be deeply subjective.

The hard scientific line presupposed by the data

is easily bent by the worldview developed

by those who seek answers.

Where was the doc when you needed him?

Where was the man who started it all?

Was he playing his symphony in the sky,

having found peace from his questions in the realms

of the knowing while the mysteries

that keep us mortals in a state

of insomniatic disturbance roll on?

(heartbeat thudding) (pensive music continues)

- [Patient 17] I just wanna thank him for his understanding

and his help and acceptance of this whole thing.

And you know, it's too bad he had to pass

before we knew 100%

what the item was in my leg.

It's a big thank you actually, thanks.

(pensive music)

- [Jeremy] The next move was to get interpretation

of the data from a scientist known as Nano Man,

a military-funded nanophysicist who might be able

to shine light on our seemingly anomalous analysis.

Maybe he could tell me if there was anything to this data.

(footsteps plodding) (pensive music continues)

(chair clattering)

(paper rustling)

(book clattering)

(brooding music) (insects chirping)

(paper rustling)

(Christopher speaking faintly)

(paper rustling)

- Huh.

(paper rustling) (Christopher sighs)

- [Jeremy] This came out of a man's leg.

There've been a lot of kind of assumptions about it,

but now we have the hard physical evidence,

the elemental analysis.

I just wanted you as a nano physicist

to basically look at it and-

- Yes. - Is this a Tonka truck?

- No. (laughs)

This sample is not a Tonka truck. (laughs)

It is not a rock or a pebble from the gravel.

Maybe he picked up a piece of something in his leg,

and it's been bothering him.

He had a strange experience

and decided that he had an implant.

No, this is not a stone, a pebble, or a Tonka truck.

There is nothing I can imagine

that could explain why this man would have

a witch's brew of elements

within a sample embedded in his leg.

Arsenic.

Quite a lot of arsenic, actually, in the sample.

Yttrium, yttrium is a material used

in making superconductors.

We have a huge amount of yttrium inside this,

and yttrium is extremely toxic.

Machining superconductors, you have to wear masks and gloves

because the powder is deadly.

There are just really

an astounding number of elements here

that are quite poisonous.

- [Jeremy] Are these elements unique in any way,

just the elements themselves?

- Oh, absolutely, this is the most astounding array

of elements in a single sample I've ever seen.

I have no idea how you would make such a thing.

- [Jeremy] Even in your world of nanotechnology

where you do fabricate pretty exotic,

minute-scale machines and that kind of thing,

this is still interesting to you?

- This object has an elemental analysis

of a complexity I've never seen before.

- [Jeremy] Wow. (crickets chirping)

This thing is fabricated is what you're saying?

- Oh, yes, this thing is fabricated.

Our most complex alloys, maybe you will have

five different metals

or oxides present in an alloy.

This sample has an astounding array

of metals present. (pensive music)

- [Jeremy] We're talking about something

that is highly advanced and fabricated by an intelligence.

Is that correct? - Yes.

- Straight up? - Yes, straight up.

This material had to be fabricated by something,

by somebody, by an intelligence

that was very sophisticated.

Somebody went to a great deal of effort

to create this object.

- [Jeremy] You know, I was told that there are four types

of isotopes that are found on earth in zinc.

Those are the four that they analyzed?

- There's a fifth one in very small quantity,

but they basically looked at the big four.

- [Jeremy] Okay, so they're created here by,

within our star system, the supernova that created

our star systems and our neighboring star systems.

- Yes. - And they have certain ratios

that are typically found as far as the concentration

of these different types of zinc,

so zinc-64, zinc-66, this kind of thing?

- Yes.

- [Jeremy] What ratios are you seeing there?

Are they out of proportion with terrestrial ratios,

and what does that tell us?

- So in any sample, you expect some deviation

from the normal isotopic ratio of any of these elements.

But what we're seeing here is

a dramatic shift in the isotopic ratios

of the sample versus the average isotopic ratio

of zinc found on earth. (pensive music)

This zinc is from some other part

of the galaxy at a minimum.

I'm telling you it's not from here.

This sample did not come from our solar system,

much less the earth.

These isotopes provided us the evidence.

These are not naturally occurring on earth.

- [Jeremy] My mind is still kind of frozen with shock.

I did not expect there to be proof.

You're just nodding your head, but I'm freaked out.

- We have material that has been pulled out of a man's leg

that should not exist.

This sample could not have been made on earth

because the isotopic ratios

do not support the idea

or the theory that this sample was made here.

- [Jeremy] I mean, so you got the smoking gun,

but it's in the form of an isotopic analysis.

How do you make someone understand the implication

of those numbers?

(siren wailing)

(paper rustling)

Or maybe you don't.

(pensive music)

- The $64 trillion question remains.

How did these ratios get here?

This is not a ratio of zinc that you would find

that would be naturally occurring.

This has nothing to do with naturally occurring zinc

in our solar system or in the surrounding solar systems.

Within our neighborhood of the galaxy,

this did not come from.

These elements were created in a supernova

that was manufacturing these elements in different ratios.

- [Jeremy] Do you think, from what you've seen,

these isotopes show us non-terrestriality?

- Yes, I do.

- [Jeremy] Would you consider this scientific report

of the isotopes a smoking gun?

- Yes, I would.

I don't believe any human made this sample.

(pensive music)

- [Jeremy] I'm just trying to figure out my next step.

I mean, I guess we're at a point

where we can say big questions.

- Yes, huge questions.

(birds chirping)

(pensive music) (birds continue chirping)

This is the most significant pieces

of actual hardcore data we have ever seen

in the field of UFO and extraterrestrial.

That is white whirl.

This is the single most compelling piece of data

that's ever been generated.

So that's a mystery.

But the implication of this is stretching my imagination.

(pensive music continues)

- [Jeremy] This is just about the point

where I feel utterly lost.

I've been investigating Dr. Leir's claims

for almost a year now.

It's been one step forward, two steps back.

So here are the facts.

Patient 17 had a strange object taken out of his leg.

It was analyzed and interpreted by Dr. Leir's team.

They believe the object is proof

of advanced non-human intelligence engaging humanity.

Patient 17 and I are less convinced.

I called the lab, and they stood behind their results.

When I asked them if the isotopic results were consistent

with non-terrestriality,

they quickly admitted that errors can occur.

I presented the data to the head meteorite specialist

at UCLA, and he basically told me

that we would need more tests

to determine the object's origin.

Innumerable scientists from material specialists

to nanotechnicians have interpreted the data,

and it's a coin toss.

Some find the composition anomalous.

Others say it's what you might expect

to find in a common alloy.

Most simply say, "We need more tests."

With Dr. Leir gone, our only hope to further this case is

to get our hands on the sample and continue the quest.

This has proven to be a challenge.

(paper rustling) (pensive music continues)

(chair creaking)

(pen clanking)

(phone ringing)

(paper rustling)

(phone ringing)

- [Voicemail] Please leave your message after the tone.

(phone beeps)

- [Jeremy] Hey, man, it's me.

I've been trying for months to get ahold of Steve.

He's changed his phone number.

He won't answer any of my messages.

I just don't know if we're gonna be able

to get the sample back

or if we're gonna be able to figure out what this is.

I'm extremely frustrated.

I mean, I figure the only thing left is

to go bang on his door.

You know, we've come this far, man.

We need to do more tests.

(tape whirring) (pensive music)

It seems that we each have front row seats

for this cosmic symphony, an ultra-dimensional theater

where we are observers and participants.

We are actors on this multi-galactic

and incomprehensibly mysterious stage.

And the price of admission is simply your own curiosity.

(organ clanking)

(heartbeat thudding)

(energy pulsating and whirring)

The problem with peeking behind the curtain is

that you can't unsee and you can't unknow.

Your curiosity becomes weaponized

and from that moment forward, you become a mechanism,

a beacon radiating with desire

magnitudes greater than you ever dreamed possible.

(pensive music continues)

("Theme from Close Encounters of the Third Kind")

(sound waves whistling) (static hissing)

("Theme from Close Encounters of the Third Kind")

(sound waves whistling) (static hissing)

(being speaking in foreign language)

(signal pinging) (satellite whirring)

(pensive music)

(pensive music continues)

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