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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,767 --> 00:00:07,367 [Wayne] People get kidnapped. 2 00:00:07,433 --> 00:00:08,667 People get taken against their will. 3 00:00:08,734 --> 00:00:10,166 That is not that uncommon, 4 00:00:10,166 --> 00:00:11,467 but for it to happen to a couple 5 00:00:11,467 --> 00:00:12,867 like the Van Oostens, 6 00:00:12,867 --> 00:00:16,100 who have never wronged anyone is a terrible feeling. 7 00:00:16,100 --> 00:00:20,367 How does something like this happen, especially in our little town? 8 00:00:20,433 --> 00:00:23,867 You could see footage of two people on a mattress 9 00:00:23,867 --> 00:00:26,634 in a room that had no windows or doors. 10 00:00:27,667 --> 00:00:30,066 -[FEDS speaking] -[suspect speaking] 11 00:00:30,133 --> 00:00:33,333 When they said, "Do you know anybody you can think of that would do this?" 12 00:00:34,100 --> 00:00:36,066 [suspect speaking] 13 00:00:36,066 --> 00:00:37,767 Never would have thought. 14 00:00:37,834 --> 00:00:40,367 There was definitely an understanding that kidnappings don't end well. 15 00:00:40,367 --> 00:00:42,100 [police siren wailing] 16 00:00:42,100 --> 00:00:44,867 [Wayne] The level of depravity they're subjected to, 17 00:00:44,934 --> 00:00:46,266 it's unlike anything I've ever seen, 18 00:00:46,266 --> 00:00:48,333 and I hope I never seen anything like it again. 19 00:00:50,500 --> 00:00:52,567 I'm Special Agent Wayne Jackowski. 20 00:00:52,567 --> 00:00:54,467 I'm Special Agent Andy Kehren. 21 00:00:54,533 --> 00:00:57,567 [intense music playing] 22 00:00:57,567 --> 00:00:59,734 [narrator] This is FEDS. 23 00:01:01,900 --> 00:01:04,567 [police siren wailing] 24 00:01:04,634 --> 00:01:07,667 [dramatic music playing] 25 00:01:09,166 --> 00:01:11,867 [Amy] I grew up on a farm outside of Erie. 26 00:01:11,867 --> 00:01:14,033 It's very quiet, peaceful. 27 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,867 My brother and I were able to 28 00:01:16,934 --> 00:01:18,166 run and do what kids do 29 00:01:18,166 --> 00:01:21,066 when there's a wide open space. 30 00:01:21,066 --> 00:01:24,467 Erie is a small rural town in central Illinois, 31 00:01:24,467 --> 00:01:27,367 about two hours west of Chicago. 32 00:01:27,367 --> 00:01:30,567 Farms just about everywhere that you look. 33 00:01:30,634 --> 00:01:32,867 Everybody knows everybody. 34 00:01:32,867 --> 00:01:35,367 It really is a great place to live. 35 00:01:35,367 --> 00:01:39,066 My parents own their own businesses for many years. 36 00:01:39,133 --> 00:01:42,166 My mom, Connie, had a flooring store. 37 00:01:42,233 --> 00:01:45,266 My dad, Larry, owned his own pest control business. 38 00:01:45,333 --> 00:01:48,166 They were very respected in the community. 39 00:01:48,166 --> 00:01:51,367 Both businesses really thrived. 40 00:01:51,367 --> 00:01:54,467 When I got pregnant with my daughter, 41 00:01:54,467 --> 00:01:56,467 I took over the flooring store. 42 00:01:56,467 --> 00:01:58,867 My brother, Jeff wasn't really interested 43 00:01:58,934 --> 00:02:01,100 in taking over the pest control business 44 00:02:01,100 --> 00:02:05,266 because he had a heart for farming. 45 00:02:05,333 --> 00:02:07,533 So, my dad sold his business. 46 00:02:08,467 --> 00:02:11,100 We didn't know how much he sold the business for, 47 00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:13,767 but it was enough to have investments 48 00:02:13,767 --> 00:02:15,433 to live on and retire. 49 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,867 They were able to do a little bit of traveling 50 00:02:18,867 --> 00:02:21,367 and get very active in their church, 51 00:02:21,433 --> 00:02:22,667 teaching Sunday school, 52 00:02:22,734 --> 00:02:26,166 helping out with different community groups. 53 00:02:26,166 --> 00:02:28,867 When my brother Jeff and I started having our own kids, 54 00:02:28,867 --> 00:02:31,266 they really stepped into action, 55 00:02:31,333 --> 00:02:32,834 helped whenever they could. 56 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,767 They were always there, 57 00:02:35,834 --> 00:02:38,667 just giving us whatever we needed. 58 00:02:38,734 --> 00:02:41,967 We were blessed to have such great parents. 59 00:02:49,467 --> 00:02:51,667 [Amy] The day that it happened, 60 00:02:53,166 --> 00:02:56,100 I was between my house and the school 61 00:02:56,100 --> 00:02:57,367 to pick up my daughter. 62 00:02:57,433 --> 00:02:58,667 My brother called 63 00:02:58,667 --> 00:02:59,867 and he was telling me, 64 00:02:59,867 --> 00:03:01,934 "Mom and dad were abducted." 65 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,166 And I thought that somebody is pranking you 66 00:03:05,166 --> 00:03:06,367 or that's not funny. 67 00:03:06,367 --> 00:03:08,166 It's not a funny joke. 68 00:03:08,166 --> 00:03:12,166 But he kept telling me, "No, they told me that..." 69 00:03:12,166 --> 00:03:14,967 We have a friend who is in the local police department 70 00:03:15,033 --> 00:03:16,166 that called my brother and he said, 71 00:03:16,166 --> 00:03:18,667 "They've got your mom on camera 72 00:03:18,667 --> 00:03:22,166 and we think that she has been kidnapped." 73 00:03:22,567 --> 00:03:25,233 It was complete disbelief. 74 00:03:25,867 --> 00:03:28,467 I could barely breathe. 75 00:03:28,467 --> 00:03:30,867 There was a lot of chaos in my head 76 00:03:30,934 --> 00:03:32,734 of how could this be? 77 00:03:35,467 --> 00:03:36,967 I had to get off the phone with my brother 78 00:03:36,967 --> 00:03:39,667 because the police was calling me, 79 00:03:39,667 --> 00:03:42,000 asking me to meet them. 80 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,367 [police siren wailing] 81 00:03:45,433 --> 00:03:46,867 I'm Sheriff John Booker, 82 00:03:46,934 --> 00:03:49,066 but at the time, I was service lieutenant 83 00:03:49,133 --> 00:03:50,734 for the Whiteside County Sheriff's Office. 84 00:03:52,667 --> 00:03:55,266 When we got the phone call of a possible kidnaping 85 00:03:55,333 --> 00:03:57,166 at the bank, I thought, 86 00:03:57,166 --> 00:03:58,567 "There's no way a kidnaping happened 87 00:03:58,634 --> 00:03:59,500 in the Whiteside County." 88 00:03:59,500 --> 00:04:01,367 We don't have crimes like that that happen. 89 00:04:01,367 --> 00:04:02,634 That's in the bigger areas. 90 00:04:03,266 --> 00:04:06,634 But the bank has video that runs the whole time, 91 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,567 so when we arrived, we were able to find out 92 00:04:09,634 --> 00:04:12,867 that Connie Van Oosten had came into the bank 93 00:04:12,867 --> 00:04:14,567 and asked the teller 94 00:04:14,567 --> 00:04:18,233 for a large amount of money, $350,000. 95 00:04:20,867 --> 00:04:23,667 But then she gave a note to the teller 96 00:04:23,667 --> 00:04:25,867 saying her and her husband were held at gunpoint 97 00:04:25,934 --> 00:04:28,066 against their will and they needed help. 98 00:04:30,867 --> 00:04:34,166 She had a church bulletin in her purse 99 00:04:34,166 --> 00:04:37,133 and that's what she wrote the note on. 100 00:04:38,266 --> 00:04:42,767 I can't even imagine being under that sort of duress 101 00:04:42,834 --> 00:04:44,867 and even having the frame of mind 102 00:04:44,867 --> 00:04:47,133 to think of doing something like that. 103 00:04:49,567 --> 00:04:51,567 [John] The bank personnel tried to talk Connie 104 00:04:51,634 --> 00:04:54,000 into staying at the bank. 105 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,266 But Connie told the bank people if she didn't leave, 106 00:04:57,333 --> 00:04:59,567 that she was afraid her husband would be killed. 107 00:05:00,900 --> 00:05:02,767 The bank agreed to write the check 108 00:05:02,767 --> 00:05:04,567 and give that to Connie because they didn't want 109 00:05:04,634 --> 00:05:06,233 anything to happen to her or her husband. 110 00:05:09,700 --> 00:05:12,266 You can see Connie leave the bank, 111 00:05:13,467 --> 00:05:15,133 walk down the sidewalk. 112 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,467 The bank personnel started making phone calls 113 00:05:19,467 --> 00:05:21,166 to the police authorities 114 00:05:21,166 --> 00:05:22,567 to try and get some help. 115 00:05:22,567 --> 00:05:24,467 Through the video, we were able to see 116 00:05:24,533 --> 00:05:26,767 the car parked down the road, 117 00:05:27,767 --> 00:05:31,266 Connie gets inside the vehicle before it takes off. 118 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,100 We can't see license plate. 119 00:05:36,100 --> 00:05:39,166 We have no idea where this vehicle traveled to. 120 00:05:40,266 --> 00:05:41,867 [Amy] There was a little bit of relief 121 00:05:41,867 --> 00:05:43,867 knowing that she was still alive 122 00:05:43,934 --> 00:05:46,567 at that moment, fear, obviously, 123 00:05:46,634 --> 00:05:48,967 that we didn't know where my dad was. 124 00:05:49,033 --> 00:05:50,367 Were they separated? 125 00:05:51,166 --> 00:05:53,333 Was he even still with us? 126 00:05:59,667 --> 00:06:02,867 [intense music playing] 127 00:06:03,700 --> 00:06:05,567 [John] You always wanna check out the residence 128 00:06:05,567 --> 00:06:07,367 of the victims of crimes 129 00:06:07,433 --> 00:06:10,467 to see what might have been going on at their house. 130 00:06:10,467 --> 00:06:13,266 When our deputies arrived at the Van Oostens' house, 131 00:06:13,266 --> 00:06:17,166 their son, Jeff, was already on scene at that residence. 132 00:06:17,166 --> 00:06:19,367 Jeff said he's been away for a few days, 133 00:06:19,367 --> 00:06:22,166 so he hasn't talked to his parents in a little while. 134 00:06:24,066 --> 00:06:26,567 The deputies conducted a search of the residence. 135 00:06:27,700 --> 00:06:30,867 They were able to find a window in the basement 136 00:06:30,867 --> 00:06:33,634 that appeared to be broke from the outside in. 137 00:06:34,300 --> 00:06:37,000 They were also able to find confetti 138 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,000 that would come out of a taser. 139 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,467 When tasers deployed, 140 00:06:40,467 --> 00:06:43,667 it shoots out little pieces of paper 141 00:06:43,667 --> 00:06:46,367 and that was around the area as well. 142 00:06:46,433 --> 00:06:48,066 As they looked around, they were able to find 143 00:06:48,133 --> 00:06:50,467 a few spots where drops of blood 144 00:06:50,533 --> 00:06:52,433 had fell on to the carpet. 145 00:06:54,166 --> 00:06:57,634 We are realizing we have a full-blown kidnaping case. 146 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,667 So, we reached out to our federal agency, 147 00:07:01,734 --> 00:07:03,133 the FBI out of Rockford. 148 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,467 My name is Wayne Jackowski. 149 00:07:07,467 --> 00:07:09,166 I'm an FBI Special Agent. 150 00:07:10,100 --> 00:07:12,467 I work at the Rockford Resident Agency, 151 00:07:12,467 --> 00:07:15,166 a smaller satellite office of Chicago. 152 00:07:15,233 --> 00:07:17,100 One of our main roles is to support 153 00:07:17,100 --> 00:07:19,667 the local agencies within a 10-county area. 154 00:07:20,367 --> 00:07:22,066 Most of which is rural, 155 00:07:22,066 --> 00:07:23,967 smaller law enforcement departments 156 00:07:24,033 --> 00:07:25,567 who have limited resources, 157 00:07:25,567 --> 00:07:27,667 when things happen that maybe are not something 158 00:07:27,734 --> 00:07:29,133 that they can handle on their own. 159 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,066 As I remember it that day, I was in the office 160 00:07:35,066 --> 00:07:36,567 the majority of the day. 161 00:07:36,634 --> 00:07:37,667 Ended up arriving at home 162 00:07:37,667 --> 00:07:39,567 and sat down to have dinner with my wife, 163 00:07:39,567 --> 00:07:41,133 and then a call came. 164 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,166 The call is coming from the FBI office in Chicago, 165 00:07:45,166 --> 00:07:47,000 which doesn't give you a good feeling 166 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,767 because you know something bad 167 00:07:48,767 --> 00:07:50,367 has probably happened or is happening 168 00:07:50,367 --> 00:07:52,266 and you're gonna need to deal with it. 169 00:07:52,333 --> 00:07:53,467 When I answered the call, 170 00:07:53,467 --> 00:07:55,667 I was told that the Whiteside County Sheriff's Department 171 00:07:55,734 --> 00:07:58,166 was looking into a matter involving two people 172 00:07:58,233 --> 00:07:59,667 who were believed to be missing 173 00:07:59,667 --> 00:08:01,166 and that they might need assistance. 174 00:08:03,166 --> 00:08:05,166 Once the information is shared, 175 00:08:05,233 --> 00:08:07,166 that Connie Van Oosten had gone into the bank, 176 00:08:07,166 --> 00:08:09,066 that made everything very clear 177 00:08:09,066 --> 00:08:11,767 and very real, very quickly. 178 00:08:11,767 --> 00:08:14,000 With my experience, when someone is kidnaped, 179 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,567 and there is a purpose, 180 00:08:15,634 --> 00:08:17,767 once that purpose is fulfilled, 181 00:08:17,834 --> 00:08:20,567 something bad happens to the people who have been kidnaped. 182 00:08:20,567 --> 00:08:22,266 And knowing that Mrs. Van Oosten 183 00:08:22,266 --> 00:08:24,867 went into the bank and got the money, 184 00:08:24,867 --> 00:08:26,867 to me right away, struck a nerve 185 00:08:26,934 --> 00:08:29,266 because the kidnaper got what they were after, 186 00:08:29,333 --> 00:08:31,266 so time is not on our side. 187 00:08:31,266 --> 00:08:32,867 [John] Talked with the FBI. 188 00:08:32,934 --> 00:08:34,667 No one was convinced we were gonna find 189 00:08:34,667 --> 00:08:36,066 the Van Oostens alive. 190 00:08:36,867 --> 00:08:38,867 [Wayne] So it drives the urgency level way up. 191 00:08:38,867 --> 00:08:40,734 It is incredibly stressful. 192 00:08:41,967 --> 00:08:44,166 I remember getting a knot in my stomach at that point, 193 00:08:44,166 --> 00:08:46,166 thinking, we have to figure this out. 194 00:08:49,667 --> 00:08:52,667 [dramatic music playing] 195 00:08:54,567 --> 00:08:57,667 Whiteside County don't have a lot of resources to draw from, 196 00:08:57,667 --> 00:08:59,467 so we quickly determined that we would need 197 00:08:59,467 --> 00:09:01,967 to bring in as many other agents as we could. 198 00:09:02,900 --> 00:09:04,367 My name is Andy Kehren. 199 00:09:04,433 --> 00:09:06,066 I'm a Special Agent with the FBI. 200 00:09:06,667 --> 00:09:08,367 Not all agents are gonna tell you 201 00:09:08,367 --> 00:09:10,066 that they wanted to be an agent 202 00:09:10,066 --> 00:09:11,166 when they were a kid, 203 00:09:11,166 --> 00:09:13,767 but I was recruited in the FBI by Tom Clancy. 204 00:09:13,767 --> 00:09:16,166 I read... I read these Tom Clancy novels. 205 00:09:16,233 --> 00:09:18,867 I wanted to be in the FBI or the CIA. 206 00:09:18,867 --> 00:09:20,667 I wanted to catch terrorists and bank robbers, 207 00:09:20,734 --> 00:09:23,066 and it was gonna be awesome. 208 00:09:23,066 --> 00:09:25,467 And it just happened to be that my dream came true. 209 00:09:26,867 --> 00:09:29,166 At the time of the case, I was the newest agent 210 00:09:29,166 --> 00:09:32,100 at the FBI in the Rockford office. 211 00:09:32,100 --> 00:09:34,867 I had the worst vehicle that our office had. 212 00:09:34,867 --> 00:09:37,066 I was driving a minivan. 213 00:09:37,066 --> 00:09:38,467 I didn't mind because I was an agent 214 00:09:38,533 --> 00:09:39,734 and I was excited about it. 215 00:09:42,467 --> 00:09:44,367 This was my first kidnaping case, 216 00:09:44,367 --> 00:09:46,066 so I have a million questions 217 00:09:46,066 --> 00:09:48,266 racing through my mind as I'm driving there. 218 00:09:48,333 --> 00:09:49,867 But with all the experience in the office, 219 00:09:49,934 --> 00:09:51,667 those guys had worked kidnappings 220 00:09:51,667 --> 00:09:53,867 and there was definitely an understanding that 221 00:09:53,934 --> 00:09:55,567 they might already be killed. You know what I mean? 222 00:09:55,567 --> 00:09:59,066 Like it might already... It might be too late, 223 00:09:59,066 --> 00:10:00,467 you know, even right now. 224 00:10:00,467 --> 00:10:02,567 It might not be, but it might be. 225 00:10:02,567 --> 00:10:05,367 In fact, it probably is. 226 00:10:05,367 --> 00:10:07,567 And so, we're just trying to get to the bottom of it 227 00:10:07,567 --> 00:10:08,967 as fast as we can, 228 00:10:09,033 --> 00:10:10,266 because if there's any chance, 229 00:10:10,333 --> 00:10:12,233 we only get it if we're fast. 230 00:10:16,266 --> 00:10:17,367 Got to the sheriff's department. 231 00:10:18,767 --> 00:10:21,567 Walking in to the investigations area, 232 00:10:21,634 --> 00:10:24,333 I would describe it best as a little chaotic. 233 00:10:26,500 --> 00:10:29,767 I heard that the FBI had come in, 234 00:10:29,767 --> 00:10:32,000 clinging on to a little bit of hope there, 235 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,667 that if we have the FBI covering this, 236 00:10:34,667 --> 00:10:36,934 that we've got to find something. 237 00:10:38,467 --> 00:10:40,266 [Wayne] As well as the other agents, 238 00:10:40,333 --> 00:10:41,667 people kept coming through the door. 239 00:10:41,667 --> 00:10:43,367 Most were very small town departments, 240 00:10:43,367 --> 00:10:45,667 but they're sending resources from everywhere 241 00:10:45,734 --> 00:10:47,033 to try to pitch in and help. 242 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,467 For all of us to get on the same page quickly 243 00:10:50,533 --> 00:10:51,867 was extremely important. 244 00:10:53,100 --> 00:10:55,767 At that point, generally, the FBI form a command post, 245 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,166 central base of operations were any information 246 00:10:59,233 --> 00:11:00,867 about that case is shared. 247 00:11:00,867 --> 00:11:02,967 There will be whiteboards that will show 248 00:11:02,967 --> 00:11:04,467 what cars are of interest, 249 00:11:04,467 --> 00:11:06,133 persons are of interest. 250 00:11:08,300 --> 00:11:11,767 Early on, everybody is a suspect, I... I'll just put it that way. 251 00:11:11,767 --> 00:11:14,066 You don't know exactly who you're dealing with. 252 00:11:14,867 --> 00:11:16,767 Not that many people would likely know 253 00:11:16,767 --> 00:11:18,367 that they have that kind of money available, 254 00:11:18,367 --> 00:11:21,166 so there are important people who need to be interviewed, 255 00:11:21,166 --> 00:11:22,233 such as their children. 256 00:11:23,100 --> 00:11:24,667 The FBI explained that 257 00:11:24,667 --> 00:11:26,367 we're gonna have to do a tough thing 258 00:11:26,367 --> 00:11:29,634 and interview the Van Oostens' daughter, Amy, 259 00:11:30,100 --> 00:11:31,667 son, Jeff, 260 00:11:31,667 --> 00:11:33,667 and ask them questions 261 00:11:33,667 --> 00:11:35,367 that they're probably not gonna like. 262 00:11:35,367 --> 00:11:38,567 [intense music playing] 263 00:11:40,367 --> 00:11:43,166 The interviews were tough to go through, 264 00:11:43,166 --> 00:11:44,634 but it had to be done. 265 00:11:47,266 --> 00:11:51,100 More interrogation was done to Jeff than Amy, 266 00:11:51,100 --> 00:11:53,367 because of Jeff was away for a few days 267 00:11:53,433 --> 00:11:55,934 and, he was at the house before the deputies. 268 00:11:57,667 --> 00:11:59,166 Knowing that Mrs. Van Oosten 269 00:11:59,166 --> 00:12:02,000 went into the bank and obtained $350,000, 270 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,734 money seemed to be the motivation. 271 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,166 [John] Our detectives were asking Jeff 272 00:12:07,166 --> 00:12:09,667 tough financial questions, 273 00:12:09,734 --> 00:12:11,367 "Did you borrow money from your parents? 274 00:12:11,367 --> 00:12:13,233 Were you into financial trouble?" 275 00:12:15,166 --> 00:12:17,967 At that time, I was like, whatever you have to ask me, 276 00:12:18,033 --> 00:12:20,066 ask me and I will tell you 277 00:12:20,133 --> 00:12:23,333 as truthfully as I can what is going on. 278 00:12:24,767 --> 00:12:27,166 They asked me some questions about how I had just flown in 279 00:12:27,166 --> 00:12:30,967 from Washington getting back from a business trip, 280 00:12:31,033 --> 00:12:32,567 and how when I got the call, 281 00:12:32,634 --> 00:12:34,667 my initial reaction was to 282 00:12:34,667 --> 00:12:37,433 get up right away and come here to the house. 283 00:12:38,567 --> 00:12:42,166 They asked me some questions about my finances and how I... 284 00:12:42,233 --> 00:12:45,367 You know, how I was financially, 285 00:12:45,433 --> 00:12:47,000 and got down to... 286 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,467 Well, basically, 287 00:12:49,467 --> 00:12:51,667 if I wanted money from my parents, 288 00:12:51,734 --> 00:12:54,867 I would ask them and they would give it to me, so... 289 00:12:54,934 --> 00:12:56,767 The investigators that conducted the interviews 290 00:12:56,834 --> 00:12:59,367 did not believe Amy or Jeff had any involvement 291 00:12:59,367 --> 00:13:02,000 in Larry and Connie's disappearance. 292 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,667 [Jeff] That's kinda when everything ended, 293 00:13:03,667 --> 00:13:05,333 as far as the questioning. 294 00:13:06,266 --> 00:13:08,567 The thought of me 295 00:13:08,634 --> 00:13:11,767 ever doing something like that to my parents would just... 296 00:13:11,767 --> 00:13:13,767 It makes you sick to your stomach. 297 00:13:13,767 --> 00:13:16,367 But you've got to think about the bigger picture here 298 00:13:16,367 --> 00:13:18,367 and if they have to ask a question, 299 00:13:18,367 --> 00:13:21,367 they're doing their job, whatever. 300 00:13:21,433 --> 00:13:23,567 Let's just keep moving. 301 00:13:23,567 --> 00:13:25,667 [police siren wailing] 302 00:13:25,734 --> 00:13:27,867 [Wayne] It's getting frustrating. 303 00:13:27,867 --> 00:13:29,667 You're hoping the light bulb's gonna go on 304 00:13:29,667 --> 00:13:32,066 and somebody is gonna be a clear cut suspect, 305 00:13:32,133 --> 00:13:33,367 and that didn't happen. 306 00:13:33,433 --> 00:13:35,266 But it's a constant process. 307 00:13:35,266 --> 00:13:37,033 What's the next lead that needs to be handled? 308 00:13:38,166 --> 00:13:41,066 Based on video surveillance outside of the bank, 309 00:13:41,133 --> 00:13:43,000 we're able to determine that the vehicle 310 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,567 that Mrs. Van Oosten was driven away in, 311 00:13:45,567 --> 00:13:49,000 it's an older, like early 1990s Chevy Caprice, 312 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,166 and that's a rarer vehicle. 313 00:13:51,166 --> 00:13:52,667 There aren't a lot of those left on the road, 314 00:13:52,667 --> 00:13:54,867 especially in small town America. 315 00:13:54,934 --> 00:13:58,000 But when we put the vehicle in our computer system, 316 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,467 nothing showed up. 317 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,166 [Wayne] So for a case like this, 318 00:14:03,233 --> 00:14:05,266 if people who are missing and in danger, 319 00:14:05,266 --> 00:14:08,266 the FBI has the ability to set up a tip line. 320 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,767 So, any person that believes they may have information, 321 00:14:11,767 --> 00:14:14,567 can call the number 1-800-CALL-FBI 322 00:14:14,634 --> 00:14:18,166 and it goes in to our national call center in West Virginia. 323 00:14:18,233 --> 00:14:21,066 So, the video, it was distributed to the media 324 00:14:21,066 --> 00:14:23,767 and information started coming in the command post 325 00:14:23,767 --> 00:14:25,867 through the FBI tip line from anyone who thought 326 00:14:25,934 --> 00:14:27,533 they saw a similar vehicle. 327 00:14:30,066 --> 00:14:32,166 I didn't like sitting in the command post. 328 00:14:32,233 --> 00:14:33,767 I didn't like it. 329 00:14:33,834 --> 00:14:35,867 I felt like I was sitting on my hands. 330 00:14:35,934 --> 00:14:38,166 But then we got this lead. 331 00:14:38,233 --> 00:14:40,567 Somebody says that they saw the vehicle 332 00:14:40,567 --> 00:14:43,767 in one of the bigger towns in this area, Geneseo. 333 00:14:45,266 --> 00:14:48,066 I finally got the chance to chase down this lead. 334 00:14:48,133 --> 00:14:49,867 I took it and I was excited to get out of the command post, 335 00:14:49,867 --> 00:14:52,767 and I didn't intend to go back unless I was told to. 336 00:14:52,767 --> 00:14:54,166 [laughs] 337 00:15:00,100 --> 00:15:02,467 [Andy] Geneseo, which is a small Midwest town 338 00:15:02,467 --> 00:15:03,867 with a handful of gas stations 339 00:15:03,867 --> 00:15:05,066 and a grocery store. 340 00:15:07,066 --> 00:15:09,667 We went there, we did the interview. 341 00:15:09,734 --> 00:15:12,667 The person told us the car was heading northbound, 342 00:15:12,667 --> 00:15:16,166 and so I just started heading down that road 343 00:15:16,166 --> 00:15:18,667 and there was a hospital right by the road, I was like, "Oh, perfect." 344 00:15:18,734 --> 00:15:21,166 The hospital might have security footage, 345 00:15:22,300 --> 00:15:24,367 but we didn't see the car. 346 00:15:27,700 --> 00:15:28,667 There was pressure. 347 00:15:28,667 --> 00:15:30,867 There was pressure on us to perform. 348 00:15:31,367 --> 00:15:32,667 [Wayne] In the back of your mind, 349 00:15:32,734 --> 00:15:34,634 you know the clock is not your friend. 350 00:15:35,900 --> 00:15:38,667 But as an FBI agent, we don't give up, 351 00:15:38,667 --> 00:15:40,533 especially not for something like this. 352 00:15:44,567 --> 00:15:46,266 Early on, we're trying to process 353 00:15:46,266 --> 00:15:48,233 a lot of information very quickly. 354 00:15:48,867 --> 00:15:50,467 You have to sit back down in the command post 355 00:15:50,467 --> 00:15:52,100 with the people you've been working it with 356 00:15:52,100 --> 00:15:53,367 and see if we missed something, 357 00:15:53,367 --> 00:15:55,066 because it is easy to do. 358 00:15:57,367 --> 00:15:59,867 We started to go back over what we currently knew 359 00:15:59,934 --> 00:16:01,967 and what the details were surrounding those things, 360 00:16:02,033 --> 00:16:05,066 which included Mrs. Van Oosten's visit into the bank. 361 00:16:07,567 --> 00:16:10,367 We started to reexamine that trip back inside the bank 362 00:16:10,367 --> 00:16:12,133 in a greater detail. 363 00:16:14,567 --> 00:16:17,100 Mrs. Van Oosten went inside the bank, 364 00:16:17,100 --> 00:16:21,133 approached the teller counter and asked for a $350,000. 365 00:16:21,967 --> 00:16:23,567 But then the question was asked, 366 00:16:23,634 --> 00:16:25,166 what form of money did she get it? 367 00:16:25,233 --> 00:16:26,266 Was it a wire transfer? 368 00:16:26,266 --> 00:16:28,467 Was it a check? What was it? 369 00:16:28,467 --> 00:16:31,066 And we're told it was specifically a cashier's check. 370 00:16:31,767 --> 00:16:33,367 The bells go off at that point. 371 00:16:34,066 --> 00:16:35,266 My question was immediately asked, 372 00:16:35,266 --> 00:16:36,667 well, who was the check made out to? 373 00:16:36,667 --> 00:16:39,066 Because somebody needs to cash it at some point, 374 00:16:39,133 --> 00:16:41,867 because if they can't, all of this is for nothing. 375 00:16:41,867 --> 00:16:44,266 We asked the bank to provide a copy of the check. 376 00:16:44,333 --> 00:16:46,166 Could we see it? 377 00:16:46,166 --> 00:16:48,467 At which point somebody produced a copy of it, 378 00:16:48,467 --> 00:16:49,467 which was very exciting 379 00:16:49,467 --> 00:16:51,467 because the check was made out 380 00:16:51,467 --> 00:16:53,066 to an actual company, 381 00:16:53,133 --> 00:16:55,133 The Store Edge, LLC. 382 00:16:56,900 --> 00:16:59,166 So the knot in my stomach was turning into more 383 00:16:59,166 --> 00:17:01,000 like a jittery excitement 384 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,166 because this is the first thing 385 00:17:02,166 --> 00:17:04,767 that we really feel is a good, solid lead 386 00:17:04,767 --> 00:17:05,767 that we can run down. 387 00:17:05,767 --> 00:17:07,667 [phone ringing] 388 00:17:07,734 --> 00:17:09,967 So as we were looking into the individuals 389 00:17:10,033 --> 00:17:11,467 associated with The Store Edge, LLC, 390 00:17:11,467 --> 00:17:13,467 we're also looking into their background, 391 00:17:13,467 --> 00:17:16,333 things that are related to them, any vehicles. 392 00:17:17,300 --> 00:17:19,100 At that point, we noticed 393 00:17:19,100 --> 00:17:21,166 that there was a older model Chevy Caprice 394 00:17:21,233 --> 00:17:22,767 that could match the description 395 00:17:22,767 --> 00:17:24,133 of the one at the bank, 396 00:17:24,967 --> 00:17:26,967 registered to one of the individuals 397 00:17:27,033 --> 00:17:28,767 tied into the Store Edge, LLC. 398 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,533 That individual's name... was Chad Schipper. 399 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,767 That was a totally new name to us, 400 00:17:38,834 --> 00:17:41,000 but one that we had to run down very quickly. 401 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,367 Can we bring a connection 402 00:17:42,433 --> 00:17:43,634 between he and the Van Oostens? 403 00:17:44,367 --> 00:17:45,967 [John] We reached out to the family 404 00:17:45,967 --> 00:17:47,266 trying to get some information 405 00:17:47,266 --> 00:17:48,834 about Chad Schipper. 406 00:17:51,467 --> 00:17:52,867 [Jeff] When you grow up in a small town, 407 00:17:52,867 --> 00:17:54,533 you know who everybody is, 408 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,166 but it's not him, 409 00:17:57,166 --> 00:17:59,133 you know, it couldn't be possibly be him. 410 00:18:02,567 --> 00:18:03,867 Never. 411 00:18:03,934 --> 00:18:05,266 Never. 412 00:18:05,266 --> 00:18:07,667 I've known him... 413 00:18:07,667 --> 00:18:09,667 since we were in Sunday school together, 414 00:18:09,667 --> 00:18:13,567 you know, little five, six, seven-years-old, probably. 415 00:18:13,567 --> 00:18:16,000 Growing up, he was always a year ahead of me in school, 416 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,266 from elementary to high school. 417 00:18:21,867 --> 00:18:24,467 We didn't run in the same crowd, 418 00:18:24,467 --> 00:18:26,667 but if I saw him, I'd say hi to him 419 00:18:26,734 --> 00:18:28,266 and maybe talk to him a little bit. 420 00:18:29,667 --> 00:18:32,367 He was valedictorian of his class. 421 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,867 Growing up, I don't want to admit that I looked up to him, but I'm like, "Man, 422 00:18:37,867 --> 00:18:40,266 that guy is living the life." 423 00:18:40,333 --> 00:18:43,467 He's intelligent and smart. 424 00:18:43,467 --> 00:18:45,066 You look at somebody like that 425 00:18:45,066 --> 00:18:46,867 and you're like, "Well, you know, 426 00:18:46,934 --> 00:18:48,767 there's somebody that's got their act together." 427 00:18:48,767 --> 00:18:50,467 [Amy] Families went to the same church, 428 00:18:50,467 --> 00:18:53,066 we were in the same youth groups. 429 00:18:53,066 --> 00:18:55,266 He could whip out those Bible verses 430 00:18:55,266 --> 00:18:58,867 in Sunday school like nobody else, you know, 431 00:18:58,867 --> 00:19:02,667 just would have never expected anybody from the community 432 00:19:02,667 --> 00:19:06,166 ever, let alone somebody that we went to church with. 433 00:19:06,900 --> 00:19:08,133 Never. 434 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,100 [Wayne] The next step was, where does Mr. Schipper live? 435 00:19:15,100 --> 00:19:16,266 Where does he work? 436 00:19:16,266 --> 00:19:18,000 Does he have a financial background? 437 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,066 And more importantly, 438 00:19:19,133 --> 00:19:20,767 where could he possibly have the Van Oostens, 439 00:19:20,767 --> 00:19:22,166 if he has them? 440 00:19:26,100 --> 00:19:28,000 [Jeff] Several years prior to this, 441 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,367 I remember having a conversation with my dad. 442 00:19:31,433 --> 00:19:33,667 At that time, dad was an elder at the church 443 00:19:33,667 --> 00:19:35,567 and Chad was an elder at the church. 444 00:19:35,634 --> 00:19:40,033 And Chad was starting out as a financial advisor. 445 00:19:40,700 --> 00:19:42,000 I remember dad, he's like, 446 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,367 "Well, I'll give him a shot because, you know, 447 00:19:43,367 --> 00:19:44,567 we go to the same church." 448 00:19:44,567 --> 00:19:46,667 You should be able to trust somebody like that. 449 00:19:47,367 --> 00:19:49,767 But dad looked at Chad's proposal 450 00:19:49,834 --> 00:19:52,266 and he's like, "This is not a benefit 451 00:19:52,266 --> 00:19:53,834 for me and my finances." 452 00:19:54,700 --> 00:19:56,166 [Amy] They had mentioned that 453 00:19:56,166 --> 00:19:58,967 they had met with him those year... 454 00:19:58,967 --> 00:20:00,767 Two years prior, 455 00:20:00,767 --> 00:20:04,066 so he knew about the money and the investments. 456 00:20:05,700 --> 00:20:07,934 Complete, just, shock. 457 00:20:14,867 --> 00:20:16,967 So as we continue to look into Mr. Schipper, 458 00:20:16,967 --> 00:20:18,967 we determined he would likely know 459 00:20:19,033 --> 00:20:20,734 that they have that kind of money available. 460 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,266 And we determined he had several properties 461 00:20:24,266 --> 00:20:26,567 that he was associated with. 462 00:20:26,634 --> 00:20:29,033 At least two residences were in Geneseo, Illinois. 463 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,266 [Andy] I got a call from the command post saying, 464 00:20:34,266 --> 00:20:35,567 "We think we might have figured out 465 00:20:35,567 --> 00:20:37,166 who the subject is. 466 00:20:37,233 --> 00:20:38,567 We're all heading to some little small town 467 00:20:38,567 --> 00:20:40,166 called Geneseo." 468 00:20:40,166 --> 00:20:42,834 And I was like, perfect, we're already there. 469 00:20:45,567 --> 00:20:47,367 We went to one of the addresses 470 00:20:47,433 --> 00:20:49,000 that was tied to the subject. 471 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,967 It was a big house. 472 00:20:51,033 --> 00:20:54,066 It had, you know, at least a four-car garage. 473 00:20:55,767 --> 00:20:58,266 We're moving around this house. 474 00:20:58,333 --> 00:20:59,567 We were trying to stick to the shadows 475 00:20:59,567 --> 00:21:01,734 of the trees and things like that. 476 00:21:03,667 --> 00:21:05,567 We're trying to find probable cause. 477 00:21:05,567 --> 00:21:07,567 Anything in the premises that suggests 478 00:21:07,567 --> 00:21:09,934 that there's kidnapped people. 479 00:21:11,166 --> 00:21:13,266 But as we looked around the property, 480 00:21:13,266 --> 00:21:15,333 there was no reason to think that they were there. 481 00:21:16,166 --> 00:21:20,266 We'd all had loved to just gone into the house, 482 00:21:20,266 --> 00:21:21,867 but we can't just enter people's residence 483 00:21:21,934 --> 00:21:23,834 unless we have probable cause to go in. 484 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,367 [Andy] Once we figured out we didn't have any 485 00:21:30,367 --> 00:21:32,266 probable cause to think that the victims 486 00:21:32,266 --> 00:21:34,066 are at that address, 487 00:21:34,133 --> 00:21:36,266 at that point, it was a game of surveillance, 488 00:21:36,266 --> 00:21:37,467 where you're gonna, sit and watch, 489 00:21:37,533 --> 00:21:38,867 and wait for anything that would add 490 00:21:38,867 --> 00:21:40,667 to our probable cause. 491 00:21:42,300 --> 00:21:43,667 It was a lull. 492 00:21:43,667 --> 00:21:44,867 There was nothing going on. 493 00:21:44,867 --> 00:21:46,567 Surveillance is boring anyway 494 00:21:46,634 --> 00:21:49,166 and it's especially boring in rural Illinois. 495 00:21:49,900 --> 00:21:51,767 It was frustrating because we knew 496 00:21:51,767 --> 00:21:54,166 that the Van Oostens were good people... 497 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,166 but everyone kinda knows, 498 00:21:57,233 --> 00:21:59,066 like, these rarely have happy endings. 499 00:22:00,100 --> 00:22:02,367 We're just sitting here hoping for something, 500 00:22:02,433 --> 00:22:04,166 some type of probable cause 501 00:22:04,166 --> 00:22:06,967 and we're probably not gonna get it 502 00:22:07,033 --> 00:22:08,867 because it's 1:00 in the morning 503 00:22:08,867 --> 00:22:10,867 in rural Illinois. 504 00:22:15,467 --> 00:22:17,000 [John] It was getting late in the night. 505 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,100 We had all worked all day, 506 00:22:20,100 --> 00:22:22,467 but none of us were ready to quit. 507 00:22:23,867 --> 00:22:27,367 We had deputies at Van Oostens' house, 508 00:22:27,433 --> 00:22:30,266 in case anyone would come back to that residence. 509 00:22:30,266 --> 00:22:32,367 One of our deputies radioed. 510 00:22:32,867 --> 00:22:35,066 [deputy speaking] 511 00:22:35,066 --> 00:22:37,834 [woman speaking] 512 00:22:38,867 --> 00:22:41,533 [deputy speaking] 513 00:22:42,367 --> 00:22:45,066 [woman speaking] 514 00:22:45,133 --> 00:22:46,867 [Wayne] We hear across the radio something 515 00:22:46,867 --> 00:22:49,266 to the effect of, "I saw the car, 516 00:22:49,333 --> 00:22:51,066 this Chevy Caprice," 517 00:22:51,133 --> 00:22:54,266 which has been a car of interest from earlier on. 518 00:22:54,333 --> 00:22:56,066 That vehicle had been spotted. 519 00:22:56,133 --> 00:22:58,166 [John] The deputy was able to get behind it, 520 00:22:58,166 --> 00:23:00,767 and then attempted to make a traffic stop on it. 521 00:23:00,767 --> 00:23:03,967 [intense music playing] 522 00:23:14,700 --> 00:23:17,734 [deputy speaking] 523 00:23:18,266 --> 00:23:20,634 [woman speaking] 524 00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:23,667 [Wayne] We're listening to the radio traffic. 525 00:23:23,734 --> 00:23:27,567 [deputy speaking] 526 00:23:27,567 --> 00:23:28,767 [Wayne] I'm in a car chase. 527 00:23:28,834 --> 00:23:30,867 I'm chasing the car, now I tried to stop it 528 00:23:30,934 --> 00:23:32,100 and it sped away. 529 00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:34,100 [police siren wailing] 530 00:23:34,100 --> 00:23:38,266 [deputy speaking] 531 00:23:38,333 --> 00:23:40,367 All of a sudden, you get that spark and it's back. 532 00:23:40,433 --> 00:23:44,266 This is the actual car that she was in. 533 00:23:44,333 --> 00:23:45,834 That's good. That's a good lead. 534 00:23:47,467 --> 00:23:50,433 [deputy speaking] 535 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,667 It sounds like, hey, maybe they're onto something now. 536 00:23:53,667 --> 00:23:56,367 Maybe it's Mr. Schipper and he's running, 537 00:23:56,433 --> 00:23:58,166 and there's a reason why he's running. 538 00:23:59,266 --> 00:24:01,667 [deputy speaking] 539 00:24:01,734 --> 00:24:04,467 We had a good lead and there's reason to think 540 00:24:04,467 --> 00:24:08,066 that it will lead to the Van Oostens. 541 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,867 [deputy speaking] 542 00:24:10,934 --> 00:24:12,266 [woman speaking] 543 00:24:12,266 --> 00:24:16,000 We're holding the radio trying to will the officer 544 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,066 to catch him, 545 00:24:17,066 --> 00:24:18,233 "Come on." 546 00:24:20,066 --> 00:24:23,934 [deputy speaking] 547 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,767 [Wayne] Things are happening very quickly. 548 00:24:25,767 --> 00:24:27,467 Every second that you're waiting 549 00:24:27,467 --> 00:24:29,233 for what's gonna happen next... 550 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,467 it's extremely exciting 551 00:24:31,467 --> 00:24:33,734 and incredibly painful at the same time. 552 00:24:34,133 --> 00:24:37,834 [deputy speaking] 553 00:24:37,900 --> 00:24:39,767 [woman speaking] 554 00:24:39,767 --> 00:24:42,100 All of us were hoping that the car chase would end 555 00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:44,734 peacefully, slowly, and that he would just pull over. 556 00:24:47,567 --> 00:24:50,133 And that the Van Oostens would be alive and well 557 00:24:50,133 --> 00:24:51,834 maybe in the back unharmed. 558 00:24:53,166 --> 00:24:56,967 [deputy speaking] 559 00:24:56,967 --> 00:24:58,834 But that's not what happened. 560 00:24:58,900 --> 00:25:02,000 [police siren wailing] 561 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,433 [deputy speaking] 562 00:25:15,667 --> 00:25:19,533 [police siren wailing] 563 00:25:20,567 --> 00:25:23,000 Chad Schipper was the driver of the vehicle. 564 00:25:23,934 --> 00:25:26,133 The deputies ordered him out at gunpoint, 565 00:25:26,133 --> 00:25:28,900 got him on the ground, cuffed him. 566 00:25:29,367 --> 00:25:31,266 [deputy speaking] 567 00:25:31,266 --> 00:25:33,467 [John] The other driver was okay, 568 00:25:33,533 --> 00:25:36,233 only minor injuries, and was able to walk away. 569 00:25:36,967 --> 00:25:38,467 We're all on pins and needles and just waiting 570 00:25:38,467 --> 00:25:41,467 for the next voice to come across the radio to tell us 571 00:25:41,467 --> 00:25:44,567 anything that would help ease our concerns. 572 00:25:44,634 --> 00:25:46,100 Are they with him? 573 00:25:46,100 --> 00:25:47,567 Are they alive? 574 00:25:47,634 --> 00:25:49,934 [deputy] Whiteside 324, can you advise how many injuries? 575 00:25:51,834 --> 00:25:54,100 There was no one else in the vehicle, 576 00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:56,734 but we discovered a shovel, 577 00:25:56,734 --> 00:25:59,867 plastic sheeting, duct tape, 578 00:25:59,867 --> 00:26:03,734 a saw, which all to us indicated he was going 579 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,667 to put someone in this plastic sheeting 580 00:26:05,667 --> 00:26:06,734 and bury them. 581 00:26:07,667 --> 00:26:10,567 They advised Chad with his Miranda warnings 582 00:26:10,567 --> 00:26:13,100 before they started asking questions. 583 00:26:13,100 --> 00:26:15,734 The next bit of radio traffic was Mr. Schipper 584 00:26:15,734 --> 00:26:17,567 is now acknowledging he knows who the Van Oostens are 585 00:26:17,567 --> 00:26:20,467 and he is saying, "I have them" 586 00:26:20,467 --> 00:26:22,934 and provides an actual specific residence address, 587 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,667 which is one we were already aware of. 588 00:26:26,467 --> 00:26:28,767 The address that we were doing surveillance at 589 00:26:28,767 --> 00:26:32,066 was the address that was chirped in over the radio. 590 00:26:32,567 --> 00:26:35,100 Probable cause is established. 591 00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:37,233 We're going into the house. 592 00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:39,734 [intense music playing] 593 00:26:39,734 --> 00:26:42,333 [Andy] Everybody's moving towards the door. 594 00:26:44,300 --> 00:26:46,667 There was breaching equipment available, 595 00:26:46,734 --> 00:26:48,834 but I kicked the door in and it went in, 596 00:26:48,900 --> 00:26:50,133 and so we didn't even need it. 597 00:26:50,133 --> 00:26:52,166 [slams on door] 598 00:26:53,767 --> 00:26:55,133 [Wayne] There's a ladder pretty much right 599 00:26:55,133 --> 00:26:56,467 in the middle of our way, 600 00:26:56,533 --> 00:26:58,266 which doesn't really make sense, 601 00:26:58,266 --> 00:27:00,767 doesn't really seem to serve a purpose. 602 00:27:00,767 --> 00:27:03,166 We pair off and started going room by room. 603 00:27:05,100 --> 00:27:08,667 It's a methodical search, but quickly at the same time. 604 00:27:11,266 --> 00:27:13,033 [Andy] The house was the typical house 605 00:27:13,033 --> 00:27:15,734 you would see that was under construction. 606 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,033 There was saw dust kinda all over. 607 00:27:18,967 --> 00:27:21,000 There was tools all over. 608 00:27:21,767 --> 00:27:24,166 And we go room by room, we're not finding anything. 609 00:27:25,233 --> 00:27:28,233 [Andy] We cleared the upstairs a couple times... 610 00:27:28,233 --> 00:27:30,934 so we went down to the basement. 611 00:27:30,934 --> 00:27:33,734 There was a couple rooms, we cleared those. 612 00:27:34,667 --> 00:27:35,934 [Wayne] We go through the entire house, 613 00:27:35,934 --> 00:27:38,066 we do not find any threat 614 00:27:38,066 --> 00:27:39,367 and more importantly did not find 615 00:27:39,367 --> 00:27:40,266 the Van Oostens 616 00:27:40,266 --> 00:27:42,333 which was extremely disappointing. 617 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,467 Everyone's like, well, they must not be 618 00:27:44,467 --> 00:27:45,567 at this house. 619 00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:50,867 [Wayne] We get done clearing the house, 620 00:27:50,867 --> 00:27:54,166 but then we find something that is extremely odd. 621 00:27:54,166 --> 00:27:57,867 On the floor in one of the rooms was a TV monitor. 622 00:27:57,867 --> 00:27:59,467 We didn't study it at first because we're trying 623 00:27:59,467 --> 00:28:02,467 to clear the house, but looking at it closer, 624 00:28:02,467 --> 00:28:04,567 the TV monitor showed, appeared to be some type 625 00:28:04,567 --> 00:28:06,667 of a surveillance video feed. 626 00:28:09,266 --> 00:28:12,900 [Andy] You could see footage of two people... 627 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,734 on a mattress... 628 00:28:16,967 --> 00:28:19,567 in a room that had no windows or doors. 629 00:28:20,500 --> 00:28:22,634 [Wayne] It could be the Van Oostens. 630 00:28:23,300 --> 00:28:25,333 And we're not sure that they're moving. 631 00:28:27,834 --> 00:28:30,467 We're fearful at that point, they may not be alive. 632 00:28:32,367 --> 00:28:34,266 We circle together and said, 633 00:28:34,266 --> 00:28:35,834 "Where is this video feed coming from? 634 00:28:35,834 --> 00:28:37,467 Could it be somewhere else? Is it here? 635 00:28:37,467 --> 00:28:39,734 And we're missing it." 636 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,367 There's just an overall gut feeling, 637 00:28:41,433 --> 00:28:43,467 we still think they could be here somewhere, 638 00:28:43,467 --> 00:28:45,367 but we need to go back through this house, 639 00:28:45,367 --> 00:28:47,800 go through every closet, go through every cupboard, 640 00:28:48,467 --> 00:28:50,734 see if there is something we missed. 641 00:28:52,834 --> 00:28:54,066 We get down into the basement. 642 00:28:57,166 --> 00:28:58,634 We cleared a second time... 643 00:29:00,767 --> 00:29:03,166 but there's something in the back of my mind 644 00:29:03,166 --> 00:29:05,433 that says, this basement's weird. 645 00:29:07,834 --> 00:29:10,233 Everyone's been in a basement. 646 00:29:10,300 --> 00:29:13,367 And a basement is almost always a rectangle, 647 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,300 but this one's not. 648 00:29:22,066 --> 00:29:24,567 There was a corner of the basement 649 00:29:24,634 --> 00:29:25,734 that was unavailable. 650 00:29:27,367 --> 00:29:29,834 Pushing on this wall, this looks like 651 00:29:29,834 --> 00:29:32,934 it was pretty recently painted and sanded. 652 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,867 We were a short time away from starting 653 00:29:35,867 --> 00:29:38,767 to fight our way through that wall, and then we hear it, 654 00:29:38,767 --> 00:29:42,066 "Wayne, they found something upstairs." 655 00:29:44,033 --> 00:29:45,467 [Wayne] I happened to be looking in a closet 656 00:29:45,467 --> 00:29:47,467 and there was a piece of plywood on the floor. 657 00:29:47,467 --> 00:29:49,367 Something just told me to pick up the piece of plywood 658 00:29:49,367 --> 00:29:52,567 and I picked it up, looked underneath, 659 00:29:52,567 --> 00:29:54,467 and I got the biggest knot on my stomach 660 00:29:54,467 --> 00:29:57,233 from the whole investigation leading up to that moment. 661 00:29:58,667 --> 00:30:01,767 There was a fortified steel hatch. 662 00:30:01,767 --> 00:30:05,567 It was a solid steel door in the floor, 663 00:30:05,567 --> 00:30:09,166 above where that area of the basement would've been. 664 00:30:12,567 --> 00:30:14,867 [Wayne] It has a padlock on it. 665 00:30:14,867 --> 00:30:17,767 A very thick, heavy padlock. 666 00:30:17,767 --> 00:30:19,367 Another agent had his breaching equipment, 667 00:30:19,433 --> 00:30:22,667 which included a set of bolt cutters. 668 00:30:22,667 --> 00:30:24,266 I had the bolt cutters and put it in there, 669 00:30:24,266 --> 00:30:27,867 and I squeezed as hard as I could and I could not do it. 670 00:30:27,867 --> 00:30:29,567 So, what I ended up doing was putting one side 671 00:30:29,567 --> 00:30:31,567 of the bolt cutters against the wall and I grabbed 672 00:30:31,567 --> 00:30:35,066 the other side with both hands and broke it off that way. 673 00:30:38,667 --> 00:30:40,934 Reached down, lifted it up. It was heavy. 674 00:30:41,934 --> 00:30:46,266 Push it open, a dark room underneath. 675 00:30:46,266 --> 00:30:48,667 [Wayne] The ladder that we encountered as soon as we made entry 676 00:30:48,734 --> 00:30:50,934 through the door started making sense now. 677 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,467 [Andy] I'm looking down into this room 678 00:30:54,467 --> 00:30:56,734 and I don't see much because it's dark. 679 00:30:57,500 --> 00:30:59,367 [Wayne] Andy puts his feet into the hole, 680 00:30:59,433 --> 00:31:01,567 starts to shimmy over. 681 00:31:01,567 --> 00:31:03,567 [Andy] I went to my elbows just dangling. 682 00:31:03,634 --> 00:31:05,133 There's no ground for me to reach. 683 00:31:05,834 --> 00:31:07,133 Put his arms over on each side, 684 00:31:07,133 --> 00:31:08,900 to the point he was kinda just dangling. 685 00:31:10,266 --> 00:31:12,934 [Andy] At some point, you have to just let go, 686 00:31:12,934 --> 00:31:17,033 fall through the chasm and land on the other side... 687 00:31:17,033 --> 00:31:18,667 and so I did. 688 00:31:19,834 --> 00:31:21,100 He had his arms on either side, 689 00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:22,266 and all of a sudden his arms came up 690 00:31:22,266 --> 00:31:25,033 and he just plunged into the hole and he's gone. 691 00:31:27,467 --> 00:31:29,467 [ominous music playing] 692 00:31:29,533 --> 00:31:32,400 I just brought my arms up and fell it through the hole. 693 00:31:35,066 --> 00:31:36,934 It was just exactly as you would think. 694 00:31:36,934 --> 00:31:40,300 It was an eight foot ceiling and I landed on the ground. 695 00:31:42,834 --> 00:31:45,367 It was eerie, it was a room 696 00:31:45,367 --> 00:31:48,233 that had no doors or windows. 697 00:31:49,467 --> 00:31:51,834 There was a mattress on the floor, 698 00:31:51,900 --> 00:31:53,300 it had some blankets. 699 00:31:56,867 --> 00:31:59,867 And that's where we found them. 700 00:31:59,867 --> 00:32:03,066 [ominous music playing] 701 00:32:09,667 --> 00:32:12,333 [Connie] When Andy jumped through the hole... 702 00:32:13,266 --> 00:32:15,166 he had a huge smile on his face 703 00:32:15,166 --> 00:32:17,967 and just said, they're fine, they're okay. 704 00:32:17,967 --> 00:32:20,667 [Andy] Larry and Connie were good. 705 00:32:22,467 --> 00:32:26,867 They were very pleased to have been recovered. 706 00:32:26,867 --> 00:32:28,734 They told us it was the FBI, 707 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,333 and, uh, that they were here 708 00:32:31,333 --> 00:32:33,233 to rescue us, and that we were... 709 00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:34,333 we were safe. 710 00:32:34,333 --> 00:32:38,567 So that was a very joyful moment, 711 00:32:38,567 --> 00:32:40,867 but also one of, 712 00:32:40,867 --> 00:32:42,834 is this really happening? 713 00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:46,033 You know, are we actually, after all this, safe? 714 00:32:46,033 --> 00:32:47,734 I don't think we quit smiling 715 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,066 because, you know, they were there. 716 00:32:50,066 --> 00:32:52,834 They did come, they did come to rescue us. 717 00:32:52,900 --> 00:32:54,567 Connie gave me a big hug. 718 00:32:54,634 --> 00:32:56,367 Larry gave me a big hug. 719 00:32:56,367 --> 00:32:58,467 You could hear them upstairs celebrating. 720 00:32:58,467 --> 00:33:01,033 "We found them. We found them. They're okay." 721 00:33:02,166 --> 00:33:03,834 [Wayne] We put the ladder down in through the opening, 722 00:33:03,834 --> 00:33:06,266 and then the Van Oostens came out. 723 00:33:06,266 --> 00:33:08,934 To see them emerge from a makeshift dungeon 724 00:33:08,934 --> 00:33:10,133 and to be okay 725 00:33:10,133 --> 00:33:12,934 was the most rewarding feeling of my career. 726 00:33:13,667 --> 00:33:16,934 It was unbelievable, except it happened. 727 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,934 It never happens except it did. 728 00:33:21,667 --> 00:33:23,433 So, yeah. 729 00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:29,667 [Jeff] When the police let me know that they had found 730 00:33:29,667 --> 00:33:32,934 my parents, I didn't know how to react. 731 00:33:32,934 --> 00:33:37,567 I didn't know how to... Um, how to feel, really. 732 00:33:37,567 --> 00:33:39,567 I've never felt emotions like that in my life. 733 00:33:39,567 --> 00:33:44,033 My brother was calling me saying, we found them. 734 00:33:44,033 --> 00:33:47,033 Ripping into the driveway and pounding on our door. 735 00:33:47,033 --> 00:33:51,100 So we were all able to just hug. 736 00:33:53,266 --> 00:33:56,634 We were told that they were at the hospital in Geneseo. 737 00:33:57,367 --> 00:34:00,667 Obviously, just complete breakdown, 738 00:34:00,667 --> 00:34:04,567 relief, and almost angry 739 00:34:04,567 --> 00:34:06,467 because I wanted to know 740 00:34:06,467 --> 00:34:10,000 what he had done to her, to them. 741 00:34:18,133 --> 00:34:20,233 [man speaking] 742 00:34:20,233 --> 00:34:21,934 [Chad speaking] 743 00:34:34,166 --> 00:34:36,934 [John] He was basically a scammer, a swindler, 744 00:34:36,934 --> 00:34:40,066 and was taking money from family members. 745 00:34:40,066 --> 00:34:42,467 He had no money to cover the investments 746 00:34:42,467 --> 00:34:44,133 that he was supposedly doing. 747 00:34:44,133 --> 00:34:45,467 And that's why he decided to act 748 00:34:45,467 --> 00:34:47,567 because he thought Connie and Larry had 749 00:34:47,567 --> 00:34:51,066 lots of money and could cover the wrongdoings. 750 00:34:53,834 --> 00:34:57,000 [intense music playing] 751 00:34:57,967 --> 00:35:00,400 [Larry] It was about seven o'clock in the morning. 752 00:35:01,166 --> 00:35:02,533 I was sound asleep. 753 00:35:03,367 --> 00:35:04,934 I thought I was dreaming. 754 00:35:04,934 --> 00:35:08,133 I felt a presence in the room... 755 00:35:09,467 --> 00:35:13,100 and I saw this person standing next to the bed 756 00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:19,333 dressed in a black and with a gun. 757 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,834 Finally, I realized that this is real and I yelled. 758 00:35:23,900 --> 00:35:28,033 And the next thing I knew, he shot a taser at me. 759 00:35:29,266 --> 00:35:31,333 [Connie] The first words that I spoke were, 760 00:35:31,333 --> 00:35:34,066 "Oh, Lord, please help us. Please help us." 761 00:35:34,066 --> 00:35:36,667 And his first words to me were, 762 00:35:36,734 --> 00:35:38,533 "Where's your God now?" 763 00:35:39,467 --> 00:35:41,934 He had me put handcuffs on Larry, 764 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,233 and then he proceeded to handcuff me. 765 00:35:45,166 --> 00:35:47,166 He took duct tape and put it over our eyes 766 00:35:47,166 --> 00:35:48,867 and our mouths, and we were told 767 00:35:48,867 --> 00:35:50,533 to be quiet and not say anything. 768 00:35:51,033 --> 00:35:53,467 [Larry] He took us out to the garage 769 00:35:53,467 --> 00:35:56,667 where there was an old Chevy Caprice parked there 770 00:35:56,734 --> 00:36:00,233 and somehow got us into the trunk. 771 00:36:01,367 --> 00:36:04,734 We rode in that trunk for half an hour or so. 772 00:36:11,266 --> 00:36:14,367 [Connie] He took me out first 773 00:36:14,367 --> 00:36:16,734 and led me to what I thought 774 00:36:16,734 --> 00:36:18,734 was gonna be a small room, 775 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,000 but it turned out to be a closet 776 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,834 and I had to climb down a ladder. 777 00:36:25,333 --> 00:36:27,233 It was a completely sealed room, 778 00:36:27,233 --> 00:36:30,934 concrete walls, so it was very sturdy. 779 00:36:30,934 --> 00:36:34,934 It was designed to make sure that people 780 00:36:34,934 --> 00:36:38,367 could stay there for a period of time. 781 00:36:38,367 --> 00:36:40,834 They had like stack of ramen noodles. 782 00:36:42,767 --> 00:36:46,467 They had a shower and a toilet. 783 00:36:47,266 --> 00:36:48,467 And then on the other side, 784 00:36:48,533 --> 00:36:52,233 they had locking mechanism for handcuffing. 785 00:36:52,300 --> 00:36:54,567 It was very apparent that this was a room made 786 00:36:54,634 --> 00:36:57,166 for locking people against their will. 787 00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:02,467 This was a purposeful plan that he had contemplated, 788 00:37:02,533 --> 00:37:05,934 and thought about, and worked to fruition 789 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,133 over months and years. 790 00:37:10,133 --> 00:37:13,300 [Chad speaking] 791 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,867 I said to him, "Why are you doing this?" 792 00:37:23,867 --> 00:37:26,467 There was no emotion. It was... It was basically, 793 00:37:26,467 --> 00:37:28,333 "I'm gonna keep you until I get all your money, 794 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,433 and then I have to kill you." 795 00:37:32,467 --> 00:37:37,333 [Chad speaking] 796 00:37:46,333 --> 00:37:48,533 [Larry] When he took her to the bank... 797 00:37:49,166 --> 00:37:52,934 I kept going through different scenarios. 798 00:37:52,934 --> 00:37:55,033 What should I have done? What could I have done? 799 00:37:55,033 --> 00:37:56,333 What can I do? 800 00:37:58,934 --> 00:38:01,967 How do I help her? 801 00:38:01,967 --> 00:38:05,000 And just being tied up there 802 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,867 and knowing that there was nothing 803 00:38:06,867 --> 00:38:09,467 I could do to help her, 804 00:38:09,467 --> 00:38:12,000 I'll never forget that, you know, never. 805 00:38:13,333 --> 00:38:17,333 [investigator speaking] 806 00:38:17,333 --> 00:38:20,533 [Chad speaking] 807 00:38:27,567 --> 00:38:30,233 [John] Eventually, he took a guilty plea. 808 00:38:30,300 --> 00:38:33,467 He received 60 years in prison 809 00:38:33,467 --> 00:38:35,433 with no chance of parole. 810 00:38:35,867 --> 00:38:37,266 For the rest of his life, 811 00:38:37,266 --> 00:38:40,800 he will be incarcerated in the state of Illinois. 812 00:38:46,667 --> 00:38:47,734 People get kidnapped, 813 00:38:47,734 --> 00:38:49,233 people get taken against their will. 814 00:38:49,300 --> 00:38:50,467 That is not that uncommon, 815 00:38:50,467 --> 00:38:52,333 but for it to happen to a couple like the Van Oostens 816 00:38:52,333 --> 00:38:54,166 who have never wronged anyone, 817 00:38:54,166 --> 00:38:56,667 the level of depravity, which they're subjected to, 818 00:38:56,734 --> 00:38:58,567 its unlike anything I've ever seen and I hope 819 00:38:58,567 --> 00:39:00,533 I never see anything like it again. 820 00:39:03,567 --> 00:39:04,934 [Connie] Larry never thought 821 00:39:04,934 --> 00:39:06,934 that he protected me... 822 00:39:07,767 --> 00:39:09,333 but he did. 823 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,333 He stood by me the whole time, 824 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,567 and he was there, and did everything 825 00:39:13,567 --> 00:39:15,867 in his power to protect me, 826 00:39:15,867 --> 00:39:17,634 and he's continued to do that. 827 00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:21,567 [Larry] She didn't have to come back. 828 00:39:21,567 --> 00:39:23,233 She could have stayed right there at the bank 829 00:39:23,300 --> 00:39:25,066 and sent the police, but she didn't do it. 830 00:39:25,066 --> 00:39:28,567 She came back on her own free will, 831 00:39:29,233 --> 00:39:31,333 just so they could find me. 832 00:39:31,333 --> 00:39:33,133 She came back to save me. 833 00:39:33,133 --> 00:39:35,233 [Connie] I just felt that I had to do 834 00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:38,767 something because it was our last chance. 835 00:39:38,767 --> 00:39:42,233 I believe God was there saying, write that note. 836 00:39:43,767 --> 00:39:45,934 And she may not want to hear it, but... 837 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,467 [laughs] 838 00:39:48,533 --> 00:39:51,433 ...she absolutely is the hero. 839 00:39:52,367 --> 00:39:54,934 [Amy] I don't even know if there are any words 840 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,033 to say how proud I am of them. 841 00:39:58,033 --> 00:40:01,567 Just can't say enough about how strong they are. 842 00:40:01,567 --> 00:40:03,333 I wanna be like them when I grow up someday. 843 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:04,767 [chuckles] 844 00:40:04,767 --> 00:40:07,233 [dramatic music playing] 845 00:40:11,734 --> 00:40:13,834 [doorbell chimes] 846 00:40:13,834 --> 00:40:15,867 [Larry] We saw God act in real time 847 00:40:15,867 --> 00:40:18,367 in a matter of two and a half, three days, 848 00:40:18,367 --> 00:40:24,467 where he took us from captivity to being saved. 849 00:40:24,533 --> 00:40:27,734 He put those people in those places, 850 00:40:27,734 --> 00:40:30,467 the perfect people at the exact right time 851 00:40:30,467 --> 00:40:34,033 to be able to get us out of there alive. 852 00:40:34,033 --> 00:40:35,367 You know, I joke about it now 853 00:40:35,367 --> 00:40:36,934 and I say, I peaked early. 854 00:40:36,934 --> 00:40:38,867 You know, like, is this what the FBI does? 855 00:40:38,867 --> 00:40:41,133 Like, it really does this? 856 00:40:41,967 --> 00:40:43,867 I'm just glad it was you guys 857 00:40:43,867 --> 00:40:45,266 and you made it wonderful. 858 00:40:45,266 --> 00:40:47,934 -[Larry] Yeah. -[Connie] I mean, all you guys did. 859 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,133 As a new agent, it gave me the utmost 860 00:40:51,133 --> 00:40:53,333 optimism in the career 861 00:40:53,333 --> 00:40:55,467 that I was getting into. 862 00:40:55,467 --> 00:40:58,467 And that's what the FBI is, an incredible group of people 863 00:40:58,467 --> 00:41:01,266 that given the opportunity or the need arises, 864 00:41:01,266 --> 00:41:03,467 we will get together and accomplish whatever 865 00:41:03,467 --> 00:41:05,567 needs to get done for the greater good. 866 00:41:05,567 --> 00:41:08,734 [dramatic music playing] 867 00:41:15,667 --> 00:41:17,634 The criminals we target are the worst of the worst. 868 00:41:22,467 --> 00:41:24,800 They just appear to be completely unstoppable. 869 00:41:25,867 --> 00:41:27,133 One of the biggest cases of my career. 870 00:41:27,133 --> 00:41:30,834 The level of hate was just so horrific. 871 00:41:30,900 --> 00:41:33,367 Nobody was dealing anywhere near as many pills as they were. 872 00:41:33,367 --> 00:41:37,133 Each day that went by the challenge built. 873 00:41:37,133 --> 00:41:39,467 We could start bringing in resources from 874 00:41:39,467 --> 00:41:40,834 all over the country. 875 00:41:40,834 --> 00:41:42,667 [Knocking] FBI! 876 00:41:42,667 --> 00:41:45,367 We risked having more victims. 877 00:41:45,367 --> 00:41:48,133 People are panicking. Time is running out. 878 00:41:48,133 --> 00:41:51,033 Inmates could order violence out on the street. 879 00:41:53,166 --> 00:41:55,867 I had to separate myself so I could do this job 880 00:41:55,867 --> 00:41:57,400 because it's horrifying. 881 00:41:58,467 --> 00:42:00,667 He's in the middle of a field, by himself dead, 882 00:42:00,734 --> 00:42:02,367 and I'm rolling up on a dead body. 883 00:42:02,367 --> 00:42:06,367 This is a lifestyle and you will live it until you're done. 71585

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