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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,68 --> 00:00:02,69 lwoman| \nirby seconds. 2 00:00:02,236 --> 00:00:05,739 [man] All right, ready, VIA. One, you have the audience to pan, 3 00:00:05,873 --> 00:00:07,975 Two, you have the window to pull. 4 00:00:08,108 --> 00:00:11,11 (Goturied] My experience in television started 5 00:00:11,144 --> 00:00:13,547 when | was representing United! Artists Television. 6 00:00:13,714 --> 00:00:18,585 | Was tNelr production vice presicent, and | was in charge of the shows 7 00:00:18,719 --> 00:00:20,821 tia were being produced tor our company. 8 00:00:20,954 --> 00:00:26,426 | sulosequenily, iin television-- | joined the Ed Sullivan company. 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,531 And my joo was to develop new shows, specials 10 00:00:30,664 --> 00:00:33,800 in all ditierent facets of television entertainment, 11 00:00:34,301 --> 00:00:37,37 Interestingly enough, | met Paddy Chayettsky 12 00:00:37,170 --> 00:00:39,39 while | was working ror Ec! Sullivans 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:45,913 So= As a matter of tact, we created a fascinating hour satire, 14 00:00:46,914 --> 00:00:49,850 OUR Ik WAS a Ie too Strong for television att tat time. 15 00:00:50,450 --> 00:00:56,757 But we Used to spend days just walling around the city talking about scripts 16 00:00:56,890 --> 00:00:59,927 and ideas that he had for things. 17 00:01:00,60 --> 00:01:03,463 And lhe was just a fascinating guy to be with 18 00:01:03,597 --> 00:01:06,633 and obviously lorilliant and talented. 19 00:01:07,67 --> 00:01:11,338 ‘SO When Wwe got together, ultimately, to make films, 20 00:01:11,471 --> 00:01:14,341 nt WAS a Great exchement on My part! 21 00:01:22,716 --> 00:01:24,952 | can tum that show into the biggest smash on television. 22 00:01:25,118 --> 00:01:27,87 What do you mean you want that show? ts a news show. 23 00:01:27,220 --> 00:01:28,255 its HOt your depariment, 24 00:01:28,422 --> 00:01:32,593 Now, who the hell is running this network? You or some conglomerate called CCA? 25 00:01:34,127 --> 00:01:36,930 [Gottiried|] What happened was, there was a big story 26 00:01:37,64 --> 00:01:39,800 aloout a major worldwide corporation 27 00:01:39,967 --> 00:01:42,703 the American Broadcasting Company. 28 00:01:42,869 --> 00:01:46,506 They had started negotiations to buy the whole broadcasting company. 29 00:01:46,673 --> 00:01:51,745 Ane wnat immeciately came to Paddy's mine was that, like any other corporation, 30 00:01:51,878 --> 00:01:54,581 trey would look tor where they could make the most profits. 31 00:01:54,715 --> 00:01:58,285 Ihe division producing the lowest rate of retum has been the news division. 32 00:01:58,418 --> 00:02:00,454 (Gottirical] Prior to this happening, 33 00:02:00,587 --> 00:02:03,557 tie News ana the news area nad always been considered 34 00:02:03,724 --> 00:02:07,494 an area Where the Networks UNCEerstood they would lose money. 35 00:02:07,661 --> 00:02:12,532 Ano wnat Padely realized was that once one of these multinational corporations 36 00:02:12,666 --> 00:02:14,368 KOOK OVEF A Major Networlk, 37 00:02:14,501 --> 00:02:19,373 Key would immediately try to make the news area into a profit center. 38 00:02:19,506 --> 00:02:24,244 And iin the process of doing that, they would obviously be willing 39 00:02:24,378 --> 00:02:30,417 to bastarcize the news and to male iit into 2 total entertainment situation, 40 00:02:30,550 --> 00:02:32,786 Ladies and gentlemen, ine Network News Four 41 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,287 wir Siloyl the Sooiisayer! 42 00:02:34,421 --> 00:02:35,922 -[cramatic music plays] -japplause] 43 00:02:36,56 --> 00:02:38,659 (Gottiried!] (But Ae would discuss alll of his ideas, 44 00:02:38,825 --> 00:02:43,697 and we were together practically every day for tares or four hours. 45 00:02:43,830 --> 00:02:46,700 Wheat would happen ts we'd sit in his office very frequently 46 00:02:46,833 --> 00:02:50,570 pDecause we had Offices nearoy, and as we talked, 47 00:02:50,704 --> 00:02:53,240 ned oe typing away or writing on a yellow pad. 48 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,244 And trequently, we'd talk and I'd come up with something in return, 49 00:02:57,411 --> 00:02:59,713 and hed come up with something far better, obviously. 50 00:02:59,846 --> 00:03:04,51 But | Guess... TING greatest value, | guess, that | could bring to it 51 00:03:04,217 --> 00:03:09,222 Was NOt SO MUGA COMING UP win the ideas but assessing them and evaluating them. 52 00:03:09,389 --> 00:03:15,629 And it was the bouncing-oir of ideas that kind of energized him into doing more. 53 00:03:16,129 --> 00:03:20,133 BU It LOOK him aloout a yealr to complete the script. 54 00:03:20,267 --> 00:03:22,202 Bun tat was more than 2 first drat 55 00:03:22,369 --> 00:03:26,239 When we handed it in, it was, you Know, a finn dratt because, you know, 56 00:03:26,406 --> 00:03:30,944 Wwe Kept Working ON these things until we both felt, particularly Paddy, 57 00:03:31,445 --> 00:03:34,414 Kina it was reallly what he wanted to get out of ft. 58 00:03:35,182 --> 00:03:41,321 And once we handed tt tn, dere were very minor changes, very minor. 59 00:03:41,455 --> 00:03:43,990 TV is Showolz, Max: 60 00:03:44,658 --> 00:03:48,762 All| | Know is this violates every canon of respectable broadcasting. 61 00:03:49,796 --> 00:03:53,200 (Goturied] We didnt have a deal on it. We did it on what they call “spec.” 62 00:03:53,333 --> 00:03:56,69 And we made a deal then with United Artists, 63 00:03:56,203 --> 00:03:59,473 and we were aloout ready to move forward. 64 00:04:00,73 --> 00:04:03,710 Ane Artnur rin, wino was tinen tne head or Unitied Artists 65 00:04:03,844 --> 00:04:06,79 and a guy wino loved Network, actually, 66 00:04:06,246 --> 00:04:10,884 NS wanted US to mest with his executive vice president of business atiairs. 67 00:04:11,17 --> 00:04:14,421 SO we thouglat he wanted! to talk about some deal points. 68 00:04:14,554 --> 00:04:17,390 And we go into his ofice, and he says: 69 00:04:17,524 --> 00:04:20,594 “| Aave a problem wit the Howard Beale character.” 70 00:04:21,495 --> 00:04:24,131 ‘SO Paddy looks att him [chuckles] and says: 71 00:04:24,264 --> 00:04:26,967 “YOu have a proolem wite the Howard Beale character?” 72 00:04:27,100 --> 00:04:28,535 And lhe said, “Yes, | cdo." 73 00:04:28,668 --> 00:04:31,571 Padealy got up, lett the room, left the building, 74 00:04:31,705 --> 00:04:33,39 anc went loack to lis office! 75 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:37,277 Its hot that Paddy was not willing KORCISCUSSEAES ERO 76 00:04:37,911 --> 00:04:42,48 OU tO CISCUSS It with the Executive vice president of business atiairs, 77 00:04:42,215 --> 00:04:46,486 not that he doesnt have any notions that are perhaps worthwhile, 78 00:04:46,620 --> 00:04:48,321 out ints not what tis Is gloouu 79 00:04:48,488 --> 00:04:50,924 | mean, you've got enough proslems making a film, 80 00:04:51,91 --> 00:04:56,129 and ir everyoody's gonna start coming In wit cinrerent ideas aloout characters... 81 00:04:56,596 --> 00:04:58,799 Anyhow, subsequently, | met with Arthur Krim, 82 00:04:58,965 --> 00:05:02,502 and Arthur said, “Jeez, iat was unfortunate, what happened,” 83 00:05:02,669 --> 00:05:05,672 "Theyre gonna hold up moving forward.” 84 00:05:05,806 --> 00:05:08,875 SO we contacted Paddy's lawyer, wino called them 85 00:05:09,42 --> 00:05:12,379 and said, “LOOK, if you dont wanna move forward, just release the project." 86 00:05:12,512 --> 00:05:14,681 And they cid release Mt 87 00:05:14,848 --> 00:05:19,886 But word Got around that they released tt; and we got aloout a half dozen calls 88 00:05:20,20 --> 00:05:21,421 rom Gitverent stucios! 89 00:05:21,588 --> 00:05:24,891 Ane eventually, we were gonna make a deal with MGM. 90 00:05:25,25 --> 00:05:28,929 But United Artists were the distrioutors for MGM, 91 00:05:29,95 --> 00:05:33,733 and they got in toucn with MGM and said, MMIC ASCHCIMUSHOCMIMOMEORAISO 92 00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:38,805 as Paricipants, you Know, in financing it and in the protits, etc." 93 00:05:38,939 --> 00:05:41,74 ‘SO they came lack into the picture. 94 00:05:41,241 --> 00:05:44,511 But ONS Of the misconceptions that a lot of people have about Paddy 95 00:05:45,78 --> 00:05:49,716 is that he was very Gitricult with his own works 96 00:05:49,850 --> 00:05:53,386 and it was very ditticult to get him to change things 97 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,555 or to listen to other people's Opinions. 98 00:05:55,689 --> 00:05:56,823 Nina's Hot true at alll] 99 00:05:56,990 --> 00:06:03,196 Paddy was always Open to ideas, and he was willing to work with the people 100 00:06:03,330 --> 00:06:05,365 Wwino were involved in tie production! 101 00:06:05,498 --> 00:06:08,201 a hands-on producer of the film. 102 00:06:08,335 --> 00:06:09,736 Not only was Ine the writer; 103 00:06:10,403 --> 00:06:12,806 lout In Order to protect iis words, 104 00:06:12,939 --> 00:06:17,510 Ne kept procucorial... HOt just the creat 105 00:06:17,644 --> 00:06:20,747 OuK tne actual activity: 106 00:06:20,881 --> 00:06:22,782 ‘SO he was on the set every day. 107 00:06:22,916 --> 00:06:24,751 rie would come to dailies every night. 108 00:06:25,652 --> 00:06:29,256 And! Ae waticned actors to make sure they could get what he was saying, 109 00:06:29,389 --> 00:06:31,124 say what he was writing, actually. 110 00:06:31,558 --> 00:06:33,526 (Gottiriec|] Paddy's great love was the theater, 111 00:06:33,660 --> 00:06:35,695 and he wrote aloout six or eight plays, 112 00:06:35,829 --> 00:06:37,764 many oF which were on Broadway: 113 00:06:37,898 --> 00:06:41,468 And in the theater, it is the writer who is king. 114 00:06:41,601 --> 00:06:45,538 SO wien @ play is procluced, it's “by Tennessee Williams," 115 00:06:45,672 --> 00:06:48,842 “oy Paddy Chayetsky,” “oy Arthur Miller,” you name it. 116 00:06:48,975 --> 00:06:53,179 SO it always was “by Paddy Chayetsky. \ 117 00:06:53,313 --> 00:06:57,484 Not “sereenplay loy” or “story loy” or anything like that. 118 00:06:57,617 --> 00:06:58,985 “By Paddy Chayetsky.| 119 00:06:59,586 --> 00:07:06,92 SO tine idea of Paddy's creciit was essentially how he felt 120 00:07:06,259 --> 00:07:11,97 aloout lls MOVIC SCFipt, Which Was exacily how he telt aloout his theater scripts. 121 00:07:11,231 --> 00:07:13,300 As IS Mass macness! 122 00:07:13,967 --> 00:07:15,235 in Good at My WOrK: 123 00:07:18,238 --> 00:07:22,75 (Gottiriec|] We lhad called Sidney because Paddy had worked with him on television. 124 00:07:22,208 --> 00:07:24,611 [Lumet] | elevision was where | began directing, actually: 125 00:07:24,744 --> 00:07:28,114 | had a dear triend then, Yul Brynner, wio-- 126 00:07:28,248 --> 00:07:30,350 ThAis is betore lhe cid King and I 127 00:07:30,517 --> 00:07:34,421 and he began working at CBS, and he called me one day and he said: 128 00:07:34,554 --> 00:07:36,589 [Russian accent] "Sidney, they're crazy down here. 129 00:07:36,723 --> 00:07:38,625 Nobody knows whet they're doing, Come along.” 130 00:07:38,758 --> 00:07:41,27 lin normal voice] And | went down, and a wonderful guy 131 00:07:41,194 --> 00:07:46,132 by the name or Crarile Underinill was in charge of hiring for CBS then, 132 00:07:46,266 --> 00:07:49,02 and | was lhired like that anc became Yul's assistant. 133 00:07:49,169 --> 00:07:52,238 And then wren Yul leit to do King and I; | took over his show, 134 00:07:52,806 --> 00:07:56,776 a Silly melodrama put a pretty good show, called Danger. 135 00:07:57,410 --> 00:08:02,882 And when | was doing Danger, Paddy Chayetsky did his first script. 136 00:08:03,583 --> 00:08:06,386 ils tirst television script he sole] was on Danger. 137 00:08:06,553 --> 00:08:09,923 Bul we Saw eacn other Over the years, you know, just around 138 00:08:10,56 --> 00:08:11,958 and always liked eacn oer. 139 00:08:12,92 --> 00:08:14,494 rie Was one of the funniest men who ever lived, 140 00:08:14,627 --> 00:08:18,798 é kind of wondertul, otter, wild humor albout him. 141 00:08:18,932 --> 00:08:22,02 And two and a halt years before we did the movie, 142 00:08:22,168 --> 00:08:25,872 he called me and ine said, “Sidney, do you wanna do a movie about television?” 143 00:08:26,06 --> 00:08:28,708 | said, “Paddy, the day you're ready, call me." 144 00:08:29,275 --> 00:08:32,912 And he dic, and it was that simple. 145 00:08:33,79 --> 00:08:38,251 When we made our ceal with Sicihey Lumet, he certainly is a powerful enough 146 00:08:38,385 --> 00:08:40,920 and Important enough cirector to have the final Cutt 147 00:08:41,554 --> 00:08:44,557 But we didnt give lim the tinal cut, and he didnt want it, 148 00:08:44,724 --> 00:08:48,328 ne realized that this was a partnership. 149 00:08:49,95 --> 00:08:54,67 You know, it was Paddy's loaloy; and it was= Fle was directing. 150 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,838 But Sidney dicin’t have ditiicultty working with Paddy as a writer. 151 00:08:59,05 --> 00:09:01,908 You know, we had cditrerences of opinion, but like everything else, 152 00:09:02,42 --> 00:09:03,243 we cl resolve them, 153 00:09:03,376 --> 00:09:04,844 Say something, tor God's sake. 154 00:09:05,245 --> 00:09:08,281 What we're going to see now is something really sensational. 155 00:09:09,849 --> 00:09:12,886 I'm gonna blow my brains out right on the air. 156 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,89 RIGIAt in the miciclle or the 7:00 news: 157 00:09:16,956 --> 00:09:20,260 You'll get a hell or a rating, lll guaranties you that. 158 00:09:20,427 --> 00:09:24,264 Paddy and || always used to saly that, "No, it’s not a satire. 159 00:09:24,397 --> 00:09:27,367 It's sneer reportage. |lauglis] 160 00:09:27,500 --> 00:09:31,37 And it turned Out to le alosolutely true. 161 00:09:31,171 --> 00:09:33,740 (rienrixsen] Look at the realliiy shows iat are on Dow, 162 00:09:33,907 --> 00:09:37,744 | mean, he talked aloout that, you know: “Tur that sihitioox off" 163 00:09:37,877 --> 00:09:39,913 that was his whole thing. 164 00:09:40,80 --> 00:09:43,716 And tine reality shows, ine had talked aloout them before they ever arrived. 165 00:09:43,850 --> 00:09:45,752 An, hell, why limit ourselves’? 166 00:09:46,653 --> 00:09:47,787 EXECUTION OF the week! 167 00:09:49,255 --> 00:09:50,790 ll errorist or the week! 168 00:09:51,558 --> 00:09:52,459 | Jove fi. 169 00:09:52,592 --> 00:09:58,431 It was basically a very serious movie told in comedic terms. 170 00:09:58,598 --> 00:10:02,569 The thing that some people coniuse is that it’s not just about television. 171 00:10:02,735 --> 00:10:06,72 Paddy was 4 visionary about what was going on in the world. 172 00:10:06,206 --> 00:10:10,610 | mean, he precicted in Network the globalization of the world. 173 00:10:10,743 --> 00:10:14,13 (Jonsen] One vast and ecumenical holding company 174 00:10:14,747 --> 00:10:18,751 ror whom alll men will work to serve a common profit, 175 00:10:19,219 --> 00:10:22,822 in which alll recA will hole a share of stock, 176 00:10:24,591 --> 00:10:31,598 all necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized: 177 00:10:32,599 --> 00:10:34,834 A\nd that's wnat's been happening more anc more 178 00:10:34,968 --> 00:10:37,537 in our whole culture, alll over tie world. 179 00:10:37,670 --> 00:10:39,906 Oloviously, it's not just America: 180 00:10:40,39 --> 00:10:42,876 But the beauty of what Paddy did 181 00:10:43,09 --> 00:10:47,13 Is that Ae Understood winat tis business was aloout, 182 00:10:47,147 --> 00:10:49,382 i's an entertainment that we gotta co. 183 00:10:49,516 --> 00:10:53,119 No matter what we want to say, no matter how we want to say it, 184 00:10:53,253 --> 00:10:56,289 Ir you con't entertain, you're Not gonna be successful, 185 00:10:56,422 --> 00:10:59,526 ANG NODOEY'S GONNA GO to Seq what it is that you have to say. 186 00:10:59,659 --> 00:11:01,327 And he was increciiole thet way: 187 00:11:01,494 --> 00:11:05,298 | mean, let's tace It, Network is a hilarious movie in many ways. 188 00:11:05,465 --> 00:11:10,303 (Floware]] im going to blow my brains out right on this program a week from today. 189 00:11:10,436 --> 00:11:13,706 -(PA] Ten seconds to commercial =S0 tune in next Tuesday. 190 00:11:13,873 --> 00:11:17,43 hat Should give ine public-relations people a week to promote the show. 191 00:11:17,610 --> 00:11:21,614 (Gottiriec!]| Untortunately, Paddy nassed away when he was 58 years old. 192 00:11:21,781 --> 00:11:27,487 rie was a relatively young man and very much ready to continue writing 193 00:11:27,620 --> 00:11:31,824 and would have unquestionaloly writien some fantastic material, 194 00:11:31,991 --> 00:11:35,428 Ane God knows, what's been happening since his death, 195 00:11:36,95 --> 00:11:38,264 iere Was @ lot or room for is writing. 196 00:11:38,398 --> 00:11:42,535 But ls ContiriloutION to flim ISPUSMEMONMOUSS 197 00:11:54,914 --> 00:11:57,450 SO dont have any illusions alooutt who's running this network from now on 198 00:11:57,584 --> 00:11:58,384 Youre tired! 199 00:11:58,518 --> 00:12:00,753 You're dressed like tie tule. You eat like the tule, 200 00:12:00,887 --> 00:12:02,755 You raise your children like thie tuloe, 201 00:12:02,889 --> 00:12:05,425 And Aeré are a tew scenes OMMNOVOCKESES NONE 202 00:12:09,195 --> 00:12:12,765 [Lumet] Network had a very tough casting problem 203 00:12:12,899 --> 00:12:16,569 because, first of alll, | needled rilliant actors, 204 00:12:16,703 --> 00:12:19,38 And tien, also, | neecied aciors 205 00:12:19,172 --> 00:12:23,76 that, you know, could oe tunny without having to be funny. 206 00:12:23,776 --> 00:12:25,912 Who uncerstood the nature of comedy, 207 00:12:26,45 --> 00:12:30,116 Wihiicn Is that it has to look like it’s periectly natural, 208 00:12:30,250 --> 00:12:32,385 out it's not perfectly natural. 209 00:12:32,518 --> 00:12:35,655 I's a very tough, hard line to tollow: 210 00:12:35,788 --> 00:12:40,26 The light is impending! | bear witness to the light! 211 00:12:41,94 --> 00:12:43,96 Lumet] Also, there was another consiceration 212 00:12:43,229 --> 00:12:46,599 loecause United Artists was very nervous about the script. 213 00:12:46,766 --> 00:12:49,736 You know, there were no pies tying in this comedy. 214 00:12:49,869 --> 00:12:52,805 ‘SO one of the things we talked albout was 215 00:12:52,939 --> 00:12:57,610 now we could get as good a group of names together. 216 00:12:57,744 --> 00:13:00,546 (Gottiriec!]| Well, the casting was something that, again, 217 00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:02,382 Paddy was very, very involved wit, 218 00:13:02,515 --> 00:13:05,285 and SO was, Oloviously, Sidney Lumet, the director. 219 00:13:05,418 --> 00:13:07,253 And as a matter of fact, INVASHIMNVOMECEOON 220 00:13:07,420 --> 00:13:12,425 Ihe three of us would discuss the casting and particularly the lead, 221 00:13:12,592 --> 00:13:16,996 Fioward Beale, needing the qualities that are not so common in many actors. 222 00:13:17,130 --> 00:13:20,166 And we spent 2 lot of time on that part, 223 00:13:20,333 --> 00:13:24,370 In tact, we had to just put oi production to get somebody we were happy with. 224 00:13:24,504 --> 00:13:27,573 ‘SO if you want thie truth, go to God, 225 00:13:28,474 --> 00:13:29,876 jo to your gurus, 226 00:13:31,210 --> 00:13:32,879 GO to yourselves, 227 00:13:33,46 --> 00:13:36,416 DOecause that’s the only place you're ever going to find any real truth. 228 00:13:36,549 --> 00:13:37,917 Lumet] Padoy came up with lim. 229 00:13:38,618 --> 00:13:43,89 it was Paddy's idea. And! | loved lls worik! | knew his work very well. 230 00:13:43,256 --> 00:13:46,326 | had seen lhim in London on the stage as well as movies, 231 00:13:46,459 --> 00:13:49,762 lout | was atraid of the accent, you know, because he was British. 232 00:13:49,896 --> 00:13:52,765 ‘So we had made an inquiry to his agent. 233 00:13:52,932 --> 00:13:55,902 Ihe agent knew that t was a great part, Fle read the script. 234 00:13:56,803 --> 00:14:02,775 And one day Peter Finch callled and he said, if we would be good enough 235 00:14:02,909 --> 00:14:06,913 to send him a tape of Walter Cronkite or John Chancsllior 236 00:14:07,46 --> 00:14:09,682 or any One OF the evening ancnors, 237 00:14:09,816 --> 00:14:14,987 ne would send us back a tape in two weeks with a periect accent. 238 00:14:15,154 --> 00:14:18,424 That's exactly what we cid. The tape arrived, and we lhired him. 239 00:14:18,558 --> 00:14:21,594 Well, I'll tell you what happened: [ just ran out of bullshit. 240 00:14:21,728 --> 00:14:23,763 PAN] Fight, cut hin off. Leave im on. 241 00:14:23,930 --> 00:14:28,801 Lumet] Bill IFrlolden always, to me, Nac 2 real sense of sacness iin the face. 242 00:14:28,968 --> 00:14:32,839 And we have a saying among ourselves that you cast for the third act. 243 00:14:32,972 --> 00:14:36,242 YOu cast tor what the character finally winds up as being. 244 00:14:36,776 --> 00:14:42,248 And tie third act or Bill's character is a guy who's lost. 245 00:14:42,415 --> 00:14:46,252 | reel lousy aloout the pain that I've caused my wie and my kids. 246 00:14:46,419 --> 00:14:49,422 | reel Quilty ane cConscience-siricken and all of those things 247 00:14:49,555 --> 00:14:51,57 Kat you think sentimental 248 00:14:51,190 --> 00:14:55,194 Ou WhIGA my generation callls simple human decency. 249 00:14:55,328 --> 00:14:58,164 Lumet] There were a lot of actors who could have played it, 250 00:14:58,331 --> 00:15:02,68 Out We were Siting around one day, all of a sudden, “How aloout Bill Holden?” 251 00:15:02,201 --> 00:15:03,69 Pes 252 00:15:03,202 --> 00:15:04,370 =nol Of discussion! 253 00:15:04,504 --> 00:15:07,73 You know, the script went off 254 00:15:08,241 --> 00:15:10,42 and tine response was immediate. 255 00:15:10,176 --> 00:15:11,944 [Gottiricd|| We wanted somebody, you know, 256 00:15:12,78 --> 00:15:14,614 wito could have an aiiair with Faye Dunaway 257 00:15:14,781 --> 00:15:18,985 ane you would loelieve tt and yet had the size and the gravitas, 258 00:15:19,152 --> 00:15:23,656 SO to speak, Of SOMEONE WhO would lbs a network official in charge of news. 259 00:15:23,790 --> 00:15:26,492 | arn NOt putting lrlowared back on the ail. 260 00:15:26,626 --> 00:15:28,995 It's Hot your show anymore, Mian. I's mine. 261 00:15:29,829 --> 00:15:33,533 [Lumet] he tirst thing aloout that character that Faye Dunaway plays 262 00:15:33,666 --> 00:15:36,02 is that she had to joe loeaurtiul 263 00:15:36,135 --> 00:15:40,72 Very limporiant. She's this seductress, ater alll. 264 00:15:40,206 --> 00:15:45,244 Secondly, tt had to be an actress who didnt want to be loved, 265 00:15:45,378 --> 00:15:47,914 who didnt get up on the screen and want to pe loved, 266 00:15:48,80 --> 00:15:51,951 A\nd it was interesting because Faye is the only one | wanted to talk to 267 00:15:52,118 --> 00:15:54,921 oeiore we lnired her, because | just wanted to Make sure aloout that. 268 00:15:55,54 --> 00:15:56,756 | cldint know her personally. 269 00:15:56,923 --> 00:16:00,426 But | knew trom her work that she was very seliless and devoted, 270 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,429 and sae had read the Script, gotten back to us immediately: 271 00:16:03,563 --> 00:16:04,797 Yes, she wanted to do tt. 272 00:16:04,931 --> 00:16:07,433 Dunaway] TAls was sometning iat was around, 273 00:16:07,567 --> 00:16:11,03 It was something that It was such an original piece of material 274 00:16:11,170 --> 00:16:14,340 tat, you know, the powers that loe didn’t quite know what to make of itt. 275 00:16:14,474 --> 00:16:16,576 And | never will torget looking at the pages, 276 00:16:16,742 --> 00:16:20,746 and there were speecnes like that, and everyoody was very nervous aloout this, 277 00:16:20,913 --> 00:16:24,83 Lumet] | went up to her aparument. She was living on Central Park West: 278 00:16:24,217 --> 00:16:26,419 A\nd tie elevator opened into the apariment. 279 00:16:26,953 --> 00:16:29,422 And as | was coming out of tie elevator, 280 00:16:29,555 --> 00:16:31,824 She Was shting there looking so beautiful, 281 00:16:32,391 --> 00:16:34,927 and lberore sie saic| a word, || saids 282 00:16:35,61 --> 00:16:37,930 “Paye, | Know tine tirst question youre going to ask me. 283 00:16:38,64 --> 00:16:40,666 Youre going to ask me, Where's her vulnerability?’ 284 00:16:41,567 --> 00:16:45,238 And Ina telling you here and now, she bas none. 285 00:16:46,38 --> 00:16:49,842 And if you try to sneak itt in, ll cut it out in the cutting room." 286 00:16:50,09 --> 00:16:53,412 Fie cleln’t tall into that trap where we say, “Oh, here’s this character. 287 00:16:53,546 --> 00:16:55,348 Now let's try to explain her, anc say: 288 00:16:55,481 --> 00:16:58,150 ‘Well, tits is way she's like she ts, you know.” 289 00:16:58,284 --> 00:17:00,219 You dont co tinat. iis Is wao sie Is] 290 00:17:00,353 --> 00:17:05,91 And then it's up to me and the writer LORSOMMEMOWECTSANEESOMNCRMNOMNE INE 291 00:17:05,258 --> 00:17:08,761 somewnere in there that you have a sense of what she's paying for. 292 00:17:08,895 --> 00:17:10,930 But that's the most one should ever cdo, | think. 293 00:17:11,63 --> 00:17:12,932 You know, you cant explain a character! 294 00:17:13,65 --> 00:17:15,635 -You have a favorite restaurant? -| eat anything. 295 00:17:16,702 --> 00:17:19,238 [Dunaway] It was something that wasn't casy to say yes to, 296 00:17:19,372 --> 00:17:21,374 and | was advised loy alll my triends 297 00:17:21,507 --> 00:17:24,277 and people wno cared aloout me not to do It, 298 00:17:24,410 --> 00:17:26,245 because, you know, she didn't have a soul. 299 00:17:26,379 --> 00:17:27,947 She was 2 TV baby, 300 00:17:28,80 --> 00:17:31,150 Which meant that there was a kind OMVACAMINESSHOS MINORNOSERE CSE 301 00:17:31,317 --> 00:17:34,720 And people were atrraicl that | would be thought of in that way. 302 00:17:34,887 --> 00:17:37,924 BU it was something tat | couldn't not do, because | thought: 303 00:17:38,57 --> 00:17:42,94 “iit | Can intuse the perrormance with some sense 304 00:17:42,228 --> 00:17:44,597 or wnat she's paying Tor this lire, 305 00:17:44,730 --> 00:17:46,365 or what kine! Of POIgnaNncy... | 306 00:17:46,499 --> 00:17:47,500 Ano | tink | digi 307 00:17:47,633 --> 00:17:49,735 | think there was something there that you felt... 308 00:17:50,202 --> 00:17:54,140 You couldn't put your tinger on It, mayoe, but you felt for this character. 309 00:17:54,273 --> 00:17:55,508 i's probally in the writing: 310 00:17:55,641 --> 00:17:59,245 | seem to be Inept at everyting except my work. 311 00:17:59,845 --> 00:18:04,417 Were talking aloout putting a maniiestly irresponsible man on national television. 312 00:18:07,587 --> 00:18:10,156 (Gottiricd|]| Duvall was a last-minute iciea. 313 00:18:10,723 --> 00:18:13,526 We just never relt right aloout it with anyone else. 314 00:18:13,993 --> 00:18:18,297 Lumet] That was my crazy idea. | didnt know why | thought of him for it 315 00:18:18,464 --> 00:18:22,134 Because you con't think or Rooert Duvall in. 2 character that wears 2 tuxedo, 316 00:18:22,568 --> 00:18:24,170 Ano! Padaly thought tor a moment. 317 00:18:24,303 --> 00:18:26,138 rie said, “Yealn, ae could be Soutihiem,* 318 00:18:26,272 --> 00:18:29,742 pecause, you know, Bol still has a lite bit of that in his soeech. 319 00:18:30,242 --> 00:18:32,345 And again, an immeciate response 320 00:18:32,511 --> 00:18:37,83 And! loy the way, what's tascinating eloout Duvall’s periormance is how funny he is. 321 00:18:37,216 --> 00:18:38,217 (So down to the mailroom, 322 00:18:38,384 --> 00:18:41,754 As of this minute, over 14,000 telegrams, The response is sensational. 323 00:18:41,921 --> 00:18:43,990 Fiero tell nim. riero’s phone hasn't stopped ringing. 324 00:18:44,123 --> 00:18:45,91 every goddamned... 325 00:18:45,257 --> 00:18:48,461 Dunaway] e's the guy | gotta get past, and he’s the one lve gotta talk= 326 00:18:48,628 --> 00:18:52,932 I've got these brilliant ideas, you know? We're two of a kind, | think. 327 00:18:53,65 --> 00:18:55,67 re understands exactly what I'm saying, 328 00:18:55,234 --> 00:18:58,904 and | know exactly what to saly to lhim that will make him go for the idea. 329 00:18:59,38 --> 00:19:01,374 And l'n tirmly convinced, | know, 330 00:19:01,507 --> 00:19:04,76 dia these ideas are going to have a 50 share 331 00:19:04,210 --> 00:19:06,245 and 2... [rattles off gilbloerish]... You know? 332 00:19:06,412 --> 00:19:09,382 Oh, tor God's sakes, Diana, are YOU Suggesting we put that lunatic 333 00:19:09,515 --> 00:19:11,250 pack on the air, yelling bullshit? 334 00:19:11,417 --> 00:19:14,86 (Diana Yes. | think we snAould put Beale back on the air tonight 335 00:19:14,220 --> 00:19:14,954 and Keep lnm On. 336 00:19:15,121 --> 00:19:17,590 Dic] you see the news this moming? Did you see The Times? 337 00:19:17,723 --> 00:19:18,958 [Dunaway] They were tun Scenes 338 00:19:19,91 --> 00:19:22,94 lpecause Bold Is SO unique as @ performer and an actor. 339 00:19:22,228 --> 00:19:25,131 You know, he's just so genuine, and he never lies, 340 00:19:25,264 --> 00:19:26,332 ewe moicrones) 341 00:19:26,465 --> 00:19:28,67 is always happening to him: 342 00:19:28,634 --> 00:19:32,405 Its not happening to the Characier. rie never uses third person, you know. 343 00:19:32,538 --> 00:19:35,908 (Iaughs] Irie's always: “Tl! 1." You know, which is right. 344 00:19:36,42 --> 00:19:37,943 I'S Got to be so personal: 345 00:19:38,77 --> 00:19:40,79 So ne was 2 lot or un to..J 346 00:19:40,946 --> 00:19:43,115 Because he's also very smart, so he got it, 347 00:19:43,282 --> 00:19:47,653 ane you could see his mind kind or working it out as Diana was laying it out to him. 348 00:19:47,787 --> 00:19:49,455 rll Get back to you, Diana! 349 00:19:50,923 --> 00:19:53,859 | sold sewing machines and automobile parts, 350 00:19:53,993 --> 00:19:56,195 nairorushnes and electronic equipment. 351 00:19:56,929 --> 00:19:58,631 ‘They say | can sell anytning. 352 00:19:58,798 --> 00:20:03,202 |Gottiriec|] The Ned Beatty part was cast with somebody else originally. 353 00:20:03,335 --> 00:20:05,905 And when Sidney was rehearsing... 354 00:20:06,38 --> 00:20:08,908 We had two weeks of rehearsal oerTore we started to shoot. 355 00:20:09,75 --> 00:20:14,380 ocalt OOCAMS ODVIOUS that the person that we had cast just couldn't carry It. 356 00:20:14,513 --> 00:20:18,918 SO because tie scene wasn't going to le shot till later on, 357 00:20:19,985 --> 00:20:22,121 we just started a lhunt tor that character. 358 00:20:22,621 --> 00:20:27,259 Ane we couldn't come up with somelocly who we elt could fill the role, 359 00:20:27,426 --> 00:20:32,198 And we were just having luncn one day, and Bob Altman was there, 360 00:20:32,665 --> 00:20:35,367 and we were alll talking aloout the ditiiculty in that character, 361 00:20:35,501 --> 00:20:37,703 anc Boo Altman said, "| got the guy for you. 362 00:20:37,837 --> 00:20:38,904 Its Ned Beatty." 363 00:20:39,38 --> 00:20:40,72 [Lumet] Ihe poor main, 364 00:20:40,206 --> 00:20:42,875 No actor should have to work under those circumstances. 365 00:20:43,409 --> 00:20:47,546 Fie flew in, Stuclying the seript as he came, leaming the lines: 366 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,950 | met with him on a Sunday, did the first work with him, 367 00:20:51,83 --> 00:20:53,152 and loegan shooting with him the following Monday, 368 00:20:53,319 --> 00:20:55,921 DSCAUSS WE did Not have a large budget for this movie, 369 00:20:56,555 --> 00:20:59,625 and so every day's Shooting mattered! 370 00:20:59,759 --> 00:21:03,696 Ana Ned, laless (hin, Came on Se Set So Nervous 371 00:21:03,829 --> 00:21:08,67 DeCAUSE the pressure on him to= First of all, just to memorize fit. 372 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,536 rie had a four-page speecan. 373 00:21:10,703 --> 00:21:14,473 | think somebody may have mentioned that I'd had a lot of theatrical background 374 00:21:14,607 --> 00:21:17,209 and had done some Shakespeare, because, quite frankly, 375 00:21:18,244 --> 00:21:24,116 when | got down to Working on it, this was more like doing a speech 376 00:21:24,283 --> 00:21:29,121 irom Shakespeare than it was anything else I'd ever done in a film, certainly. 377 00:21:29,255 --> 00:21:31,490 ere are ho nations, here are NO peoples, 378 00:21:31,624 --> 00:21:33,759 Knere are No Russians, there are no Aralos. 379 00:21:33,893 --> 00:21:36,495 There are no third worlds. ‘Tiaere is no West 380 00:21:36,629 --> 00:21:41,734 here is only one holistic sysiem of systems, 381 00:21:41,867 --> 00:21:46,972 One vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, 382 00:21:47,106 --> 00:21:49,675 multinational dominion of collars, 383 00:21:49,809 --> 00:21:51,277 |Gottiriec!] Fie was a great joys 384 00:21:51,443 --> 00:21:54,246 And he got an Academy Award nomination for that part. 385 00:21:54,380 --> 00:21:57,82 And it's just one big scene, reallly. 386 00:21:57,216 --> 00:22:01,821 You willl atone! 387 00:22:02,788 --> 00:22:04,890 Am | getting through to you, Mr. Beale? 388 00:22:05,24 --> 00:22:07,92 [Gottiricd|| And interestingly enough, too, 389 00:22:07,226 --> 00:22:10,95 us SCENE aloout the loreakup of the marriage, 390 00:22:10,229 --> 00:22:12,998 that was tine only scene that Beatrice Straight had, 391 00:22:13,132 --> 00:22:15,501 aside trom a Couple of just pass-throughs. 392 00:22:15,634 --> 00:22:17,403 Don't keep telling me that you're obsessed, 393 00:22:17,536 --> 00:22:20,706 that you're infatuated. Say that you're in love with her. 394 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,875 Ane sae won tie Academy Aware jor that scene. 395 00:22:23,342 --> 00:22:25,678 And sie was up against some very well-known 396 00:22:25,811 --> 00:22:28,13 and very terrific actresses. 397 00:22:28,147 --> 00:22:30,950 But site worked for one week, and she got the Academy Award: 398 00:22:31,116 --> 00:22:33,552 she could break your heart in that scene. 399 00:22:33,919 --> 00:22:36,55 And tf you can't Work Up a winter passion tor me, 400 00:22:36,188 --> 00:22:38,991 wie least | require is respect and allegiance: 401 00:22:39,124 --> 00:22:41,694 [Lumet] It was important that he walk away from something, 402 00:22:41,827 --> 00:22:44,964 hina Ine leaves something very valualole. 403 00:22:45,130 --> 00:22:48,367 And | could think or nothing more valualle than Beatrice Straight. 404 00:22:48,500 --> 00:22:51,804 Shed... SAS Was an incredibly beautiful woman. 405 00:22:51,937 --> 00:22:55,341 And |e! been working with Beatrice Straight on and off 406 00:22:55,474 --> 00:22:57,409 in live television for years! 407 00:22:57,543 --> 00:22:58,744 Creat soul. 408 00:22:58,878 --> 00:23:00,880 Youre in tor some dreaciiul grier, Mlen<: 409 00:23:02,248 --> 00:23:04,49 (Giirord] Fucking fascist] 410 00:23:04,183 --> 00:23:06,919 Did you see tne tlm we mace of the San Marino jail oreakoutt 411 00:23:07,86 --> 00:23:10,256 demonstrating the FISINg UP OF 4 seminal orisoner-class intrastructure? 412 00:23:10,389 --> 00:23:11,123 WY OU CAIN. 413 00:23:11,257 --> 00:23:13,325 [Katty] | played Mary Ann Gitrore in the movie, 414 00:23:13,459 --> 00:23:17,429 enc it was kine of modeled airer 415 00:23:17,596 --> 00:23:21,901 the Patty riearst “heiress kidnapped oy the Symbionese Liberation Army.” 416 00:23:22,67 --> 00:23:25,671 Only in this case, it was the Ecumenical Lilberation Army, 417 00:23:25,804 --> 00:23:28,974 an incredible opportunity for me 418 00:23:29,108 --> 00:23:31,577 DSecaUuse | was JUS Staring out as an aciress, 419 00:23:31,710 --> 00:23:35,414 directed by Sidney Lumet 420 00:23:35,547 --> 00:23:37,583 ano written loy Paddy Chayersky; 421 00:23:38,417 --> 00:23:42,54 even though it was quite a small part, 422 00:23:42,187 --> 00:23:43,389 was phenomenal. 423 00:23:43,555 --> 00:23:46,392 (Flerron] That's the Great Almed Kalan. Hie’s their leader. 424 00:23:46,525 --> 00:23:50,362 |Goturied] The Great Anmed Kalin was a fun bit of casting, 425 00:23:50,496 --> 00:23:53,265 loecause | hac a small office, 426 00:23:53,432 --> 00:24:00,139 and this huge mountain of a guy comes in; and he was angry. [laughs] 427 00:24:00,306 --> 00:24:03,242 | mean, Ae kine or wanted to show us that he’s right for ft. 428 00:24:03,742 --> 00:24:08,681 And he started out real vicious-like, and he was screaming at us and everything. 429 00:24:08,814 --> 00:24:11,250 In any event, of all the people we saw, 430 00:24:11,417 --> 00:24:14,753 we felt he would be the most efrective guy ror that role. 431 00:24:14,887 --> 00:24:20,826 Lets get back to page 22, 5a, subsidiary rights. 432 00:24:20,993 --> 00:24:25,164 [Kathy] Arthur Surgharet, wio played the Great Ahmed Kahn, was a vegetarian. 433 00:24:25,331 --> 00:24:29,68 Ane Of course, we had take ater take with him eating this tried chicken. 434 00:24:29,201 --> 00:24:32,404 Ane not only was he a vegetarian, but he was very healt conscious 435 00:24:32,538 --> 00:24:33,906 even loack tien, in tne “70s. 436 00:24:34,39 --> 00:24:37,242 ‘SO he had a bucket sitting down at the side of the talole. 437 00:24:37,743 --> 00:24:41,413 A\nd then as soon as they'd saly “cult, " he'd... Spit it down into the bucket 438 00:24:41,547 --> 00:24:43,182 and Wipe his MOUKA Out, you Know. 439 00:24:43,315 --> 00:24:45,384 Then hAe'a have to do kt again. Fle was like, "Ugh." 440 00:24:45,517 --> 00:24:46,418 IK was hormiole to im! 441 00:24:46,552 --> 00:24:50,89 All of these actors were king of woncdertul actors. 442 00:24:50,222 --> 00:24:53,692 They dicin’ hole! up the set. They didnt have problems. They= 443 00:24:53,826 --> 00:24:56,662 You know, we alll worlked together as a kind of professional. 444 00:24:56,795 --> 00:25:00,132 Lumet] What was thrilling was that we never got a turncdown. 445 00:25:00,265 --> 00:25:02,534 Whoever we seni tine script to said yes. 446 00:25:02,701 --> 00:25:06,905 Usually, somewnere down tne line, you've got second, third, fourth choices, 447 00:25:07,72 --> 00:25:10,576 and then finally some compromised choices. Not on Network 448 00:25:11,43 --> 00:25:14,279 EVveryoody there was the first Choice, and they knew it. 449 00:25:25,557 --> 00:25:29,595 Yesterday, | ANNHOUNCEE ON this program that | was going to commit public suicide. 450 00:25:30,496 --> 00:25:32,97 Adlmitecly an act of madness. 451 00:25:33,198 --> 00:25:36,201 Well, I'll tell you what happened: [ just ran out of bullshit. 452 00:25:36,335 --> 00:25:37,836 |Gotturied] Ihe part or Peter Fincn 453 00:25:37,970 --> 00:25:41,874 was complicated loy the tact inet tere is a madness in hina 454 00:25:42,41 --> 00:25:47,413 Ane! writing that part and keeping it real, we really pushed it. 455 00:25:47,579 --> 00:25:51,283 And that, incidentally, was Obviously also part of the reason 456 00:25:51,417 --> 00:25:54,386 that casting that part was so diticullt, 457 00:25:55,220 --> 00:25:57,589 DeCAUSS the reality has to loe there. 458 00:25:58,223 --> 00:26:02,795 | mean, if the guy is completely mad, you lose that sense of reality. 459 00:26:02,928 --> 00:26:06,799 A\nd tae scene where le does shout “lr mad as hell,” 460 00:26:06,965 --> 00:26:12,871 here Is loth the reality or his passion, which you have to feel 461 00:26:13,05 --> 00:26:15,908 because he cid feel that deeply, tne Howard Beale character. 462 00:26:16,75 --> 00:26:19,278 We sit in the house, and slowly the world we're living in is getting smaller. 463 00:26:19,411 --> 00:26:22,915 And! alll we saly Is, “Please, att least leave us alone in our living rooms. 464 00:26:23,48 --> 00:26:26,318 Let me have my toaster and my IV and my steeHoelted racials 465 00:26:26,452 --> 00:26:27,486 and | wont say anyitning. 466 00:26:27,653 --> 00:26:30,589 Just leave us alone.” Well, ia not going to leave you alone. 467 00:26:30,722 --> 00:26:31,957 | want you to get mac! 468 00:26:32,91 --> 00:26:34,359 [thunder crashes, tien rumioles| 469 00:26:37,362 --> 00:26:40,132 | want alll or you tO Get UP oUt of your chairs. 470 00:26:40,833 --> 00:26:44,203 | want you to get Up Fight now and go to the window, 471 00:26:44,336 --> 00:26:47,573 Open It, and stick your head out and yell: 472 00:26:47,739 --> 00:26:51,743 "lm as mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take this anymore!” 473 00:26:51,877 --> 00:26:53,612 [Dunaway] Finca, he Is just so nutty 474 00:26:53,745 --> 00:26:58,484 and so dignitied within that kine of machness that he went to, 475 00:26:58,617 --> 00:27:01,420 And, yOu know, ne created an indelible character, 476 00:27:01,587 --> 00:27:04,623 with those people opening tie windows and shouting “I'm mad as hell, 477 00:27:04,790 --> 00:27:08,160 and I'm not gonna take hk anymore.” | mean, you know, it’s great. 478 00:27:08,293 --> 00:27:11,163 Wiaen Peter Finch clic 479 00:27:11,296 --> 00:27:15,634 Kine “mad as hell” soliloquy, 480 00:27:15,767 --> 00:27:19,04 de tirst take was alosolutely magniticent. 481 00:27:19,138 --> 00:27:24,576 And | said] to the crew, "Don't cut. Peter, sit down again. 482 00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:28,46 | wanna go trom the beginning without a break,” 483 00:27:28,180 --> 00:27:32,251 lpecause | reallly wanted lnim in such 2 siais of madness 484 00:27:33,218 --> 00:27:35,954 that where he left off is where | wanted him to begin. 485 00:27:36,788 --> 00:27:39,925 And he was very thrown by that 486 00:27:40,92 --> 00:27:44,196 pecause lhe hac poured everything AS coule Into the take. 487 00:27:44,963 --> 00:27:47,866 And! ne-= Burt he went back, he started again, 488 00:27:48,00 --> 00:27:52,37 and he got halhway through again, and then he stopped and he said: 489 00:27:52,171 --> 00:27:55,874 “Sidney, | can't anymore.” Fle said, “I'm so exhausted, | can't.” 490 00:27:56,08 --> 00:27:58,410 | sald, “Peter, no problem. The first take was loriiiiant.” 491 00:27:58,544 --> 00:28:02,447 And So that’s what's in the movie, ine first haly of tae second take... 492 00:28:02,581 --> 00:28:04,583 its like everything everywhere is going crazy, 493 00:28:04,716 --> 00:28:05,817 SO WE Clon t GO OU anymore. 494 00:28:05,951 --> 00:28:08,53 [Lumet] ...and the second hall Of the Tirst take. 495 00:28:08,220 --> 00:28:12,591 YOu Ve gotta say “I am as mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take this anymore!” 496 00:28:12,724 --> 00:28:15,494 I'm mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take it anymore} 497 00:28:15,627 --> 00:28:18,130 I'm mad as hell! I'm not gonna take kt anymore} 498 00:28:18,263 --> 00:28:20,599 Lumet] Ihat was In the seript, out it wasn't detailed, 499 00:28:20,766 --> 00:28:24,736 What Paddy wrote, as | remember, was “And alll over the city, 500 00:28:24,903 --> 00:28:28,674 WIncows are Opening and people are joining in” and so on, 501 00:28:28,807 --> 00:28:32,678 (Gottiried|] Sicihey originally thought that it might be fun to do itt 502 00:28:32,844 --> 00:28:36,748 with people screaming Out their cars and people walking down the street 503 00:28:36,882 --> 00:28:40,85 and just every ditrerent kind of way. 504 00:28:40,252 --> 00:28:45,257 And Paddy insisted that he reallly telkt it should be just numbers of people 505 00:28:45,390 --> 00:28:49,94 GoINg to their windows, just leaving their homes, and just 506 00:28:49,228 --> 00:28:51,330 “lm mad as hell. I'm not gonna take kt anymore.” 507 00:28:51,463 --> 00:28:54,499 Whicn Sidney ultimately telt was the best waly to do it also, 508 00:28:54,633 --> 00:28:57,569 I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take itt 509 00:28:57,736 --> 00:29:01,306 [Lumet] And loecause of loucget, | shot that whole sequence in one night, 510 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,141 and it was part or the regular schedule, 511 00:29:03,275 --> 00:29:05,43 DeCaUSe WEN you have to do night shooting, 512 00:29:05,210 --> 00:29:09,248 generally you save it tor Fricay night in case you have to go very late 513 00:29:09,381 --> 00:29:11,116 SO that you dont have to work on Saturday. 514 00:29:11,283 --> 00:29:15,53 [Rosenberg] It started at the Aptiorpe when Holden's daughter goes to the window. 515 00:29:15,220 --> 00:29:18,590 Ane tien it siatits to various locations and ends up in that building 516 00:29:18,724 --> 00:29:20,959 on Sixta Avenue in the 50s that was empty 517 00:29:21,126 --> 00:29:25,264 Kinat we had dressed into a complete... probably hundreds of apartments. 518 00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:29,234 It was a luilding that was going to be torn down. It was an abancioned building. 519 00:29:29,401 --> 00:29:33,905 So it made it much more citiculk for my crew lbecause every single room, 520 00:29:34,72 --> 00:29:37,42 every aparmeni, had to have equipment in it, had to have lights in it 521 00:29:37,209 --> 00:29:40,579 and elecirichy run to it because there was No electricity in the louilding: 522 00:29:40,746 --> 00:29:45,117 And so it was a monumental rigging task for my electrical crew. 523 00:29:45,717 --> 00:29:48,620 And then the staging ror the assistant cirectors 524 00:29:48,754 --> 00:29:51,123 to get alll tne extras tO GO UP into those rooms 525 00:29:51,290 --> 00:29:54,359 ANd stick their Aeads Out thie wincow at the right time and yell, 526 00:29:54,493 --> 00:29:55,827 anc then for us to cover them, 527 00:29:55,961 --> 00:29:58,163 We covered hen trom all_ over! 528 00:29:58,297 --> 00:30:02,134 We covered them trom the ground, we covered them from a balcony 529 00:30:02,267 --> 00:30:05,03 across the street, all ditrerent angles: 530 00:30:05,170 --> 00:30:10,509 A\nd also, we had to use lightning macnines and rain effects, and it was huge. 531 00:30:10,642 --> 00:30:12,511 it was 2 monstrous undertaking. 532 00:30:12,644 --> 00:30:15,380 Normally, a second unit would shoot something like that, 533 00:30:15,514 --> 00:30:17,282 out we did It ourselves! 534 00:30:18,417 --> 00:30:20,585 Stiek your head out and keep yelling, and yell: 535 00:30:20,719 --> 00:30:24,89 Tin as mad as hell! im not gonna take this anymore!” 536 00:30:24,222 --> 00:30:25,657 [[Katiny] Now it's the power or tae Intemet. 537 00:30:25,791 --> 00:30:27,292 Then it was the power of television. 538 00:30:27,426 --> 00:30:30,195 -lwoman] Where are you going’? -| wanna see if anybody's yelling: 539 00:30:30,329 --> 00:30:33,332 [Kaitiny] But that scene and the power of the people 540 00:30:33,465 --> 00:30:37,02 was a very powerrul Image 541 00:30:37,169 --> 00:30:40,672 and something that, as, you know, | was still pretty rebellious 542 00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:45,243 and that whole kine of youtiniul charge ot; you know: 543 00:30:45,377 --> 00:30:47,179 YOU Te taking OUP Country and wrecking it. 544 00:30:47,312 --> 00:30:49,381 I'm not gonna sit here Tor It," was very powerful, 545 00:30:49,514 --> 00:30:50,782 and it gave me a2 Sense ot; 546 00:30:50,949 --> 00:30:54,386 you know, if enough people get mad enough, things will change. 547 00:30:56,588 --> 00:30:59,925 Ihe catchphrase was “lm mad as hell, and | won't take it anymore.” 548 00:31:00,92 --> 00:31:03,762 | remember at the time the Movie opened, there were J-shirts all over town 549 00:31:03,895 --> 00:31:07,432 and various products had them on bags and oni... 550 00:31:07,566 --> 00:31:12,404 And so the picture lbenertited A great deal in publicity by that. 551 00:31:12,971 --> 00:31:16,942 Paday wrote the line, and Sidney figured out a way 552 00:31:17,75 --> 00:31:19,611 tO Get tne whole worle screaming, 553 00:31:19,745 --> 00:31:22,681 and it became a phrase you still hear today. 554 00:31:22,848 --> 00:31:26,918 [Lumet] At the time | reac the script, it just seemed like a wonderfully funny, 555 00:31:27,52 --> 00:31:29,87 Kerritic SPeeGn: 556 00:31:29,221 --> 00:31:33,925 | never had any idea tat tt would become the-- Part of the language. 557 00:31:34,92 --> 00:31:37,129 But I'll tell you when | did get an idea that it might become 558 00:31:37,262 --> 00:31:40,932 that kind of mad expression that everybody would connect with: 559 00:31:41,66 --> 00:31:43,402 ne Tirst time | saw the picture with an aucionce. 560 00:31:43,568 --> 00:31:48,340 [in unison] We're mad as hell, and we're not gonna take it anymore! 561 00:31:48,473 --> 00:31:51,109 Lumet] There was not only enormous laughter happening 562 00:31:51,243 --> 00:31:53,78 aS tne scene louilt, 563 00:31:53,211 --> 00:31:55,414 lout people in the audience were starting to call out 564 00:31:55,580 --> 00:31:57,883 "lm mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take it anymore!” 565 00:31:58,16 --> 00:31:59,918 Calling, yelling back at the screen. 566 00:32:00,85 --> 00:32:03,755 And then Paday and | were siting together, and we looked at each other, 567 00:32:03,889 --> 00:32:06,391 and we just hac smiles like that On Our face 568 00:32:06,525 --> 00:32:08,760 DSCauUSS We knew we were onto something special. 569 00:32:10,695 --> 00:32:12,597 [Beatty] | would like to channel lee Marvin. 570 00:32:12,764 --> 00:32:16,468 I'd say, “I'm mad as inelll, and I'm not gonna take it anymore.” 571 00:32:17,35 --> 00:32:21,72 I'd lke to Go it calmly like that. But that’s not really who | am. 572 00:32:21,206 --> 00:32:25,110 Who | am is: “I'm mad as hell. I'm not gonna take kt anymore!” 573 00:32:25,844 --> 00:32:30,415 I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore. 574 00:32:31,917 --> 00:32:33,919 -its gonna make me Giggle. This is so funny, 575 00:32:34,52 --> 00:32:35,720 tO just le sitting here out of context, 576 00:32:35,854 --> 00:32:38,657 I'm mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take it anymore. 577 00:32:38,790 --> 00:32:39,724 lexnales) 578 00:32:39,858 --> 00:32:43,94 I'm mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take it anymore} 579 00:32:43,995 --> 00:32:47,632 I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take this anymore. 580 00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:50,335 I'm mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take this anymore. 581 00:32:50,469 --> 00:32:51,903 laughs and mumbles} 582 00:33:03,882 --> 00:33:05,917 | want angry shows: 583 00:33:06,318 --> 00:33:08,987 im going to blow my brains out right on this program. 584 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,589 ne Desi Four. 585 00:33:11,256 --> 00:33:13,592 [static Crackling] 586 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,196 Lumet] | rehearsed with the cast for two weeks, 587 00:33:18,330 --> 00:33:20,432 and ik was a wonderul rehearsal period. 588 00:33:20,565 --> 00:33:22,234 Bill Holden acl never reacarsec! loeore, 589 00:33:22,367 --> 00:33:27,506 rie had never rehearsed a movie. And found himself so grateful for it. 590 00:33:27,672 --> 00:33:31,09 Faye, Of course, had had a lot of theater experience, as had Peter, 591 00:33:31,576 --> 00:33:33,745 and thererore, it was, in a way; 592 00:33:33,879 --> 00:33:37,215 they were almost showing olden how to use rehearsals, 593 00:33:37,349 --> 00:33:39,651 oecause lhe didn’t know quite what to do with itt. 594 00:33:39,784 --> 00:33:43,922 But It Was a Very rich and exciting rehearsal time. 595 00:33:44,89 --> 00:33:47,592 Fie would map out the world that he was gonna have you work in, 596 00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:52,597 and then he would renearse it to give the actors a sense of continuity 597 00:33:52,731 --> 00:33:55,200 and where this Is going ano what Ae wanis tron tiem. 598 00:33:55,333 --> 00:33:58,703 And lhe had this increciiole way of coming up to you and saying: 599 00:33:59,204 --> 00:34:01,406 "Yes, baby.” You know? “Baloy, baloy, baby.” 600 00:34:01,540 --> 00:34:03,742 You know that thing he does? It's a wonderful thing. 601 00:34:03,875 --> 00:34:08,747 But he made you Teel conticent in what you'd been doing all along: 602 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,250 [Dunaway] TINS floor was tajoed out just like the rooms that we'd be in. 603 00:34:12,384 --> 00:34:14,152 TASS WAS A GAANGS to reallly exolore 604 00:34:14,286 --> 00:34:16,254 and get to know tie People you're working with, 605 00:34:16,421 --> 00:34:19,658 ANd Nobody Goss ins, literally nobody, except Sidney Lumet. 606 00:34:19,791 --> 00:34:22,928 And it's something that has always situck me as insane not to do, 607 00:34:23,428 --> 00:34:26,598 And what it does as a perormer Is, when you get on that stage, 608 00:34:26,765 --> 00:34:29,901 you can then say, “You know, | was thinking, what if instead of going 609 00:34:30,35 --> 00:34:32,704 to thie bookcase here, | went over here?” 610 00:34:32,871 --> 00:34:36,908 But you have that treedom lbecause you've got to that point in your development. 611 00:34:37,42 --> 00:34:40,378 Whereas ir you come on a soundstage and there's tine set there 612 00:34:40,512 --> 00:34:42,280 iat you've never seen loetore, [chuckles] 613 00:34:42,414 --> 00:34:44,716 you cant make very profound choices, right? 614 00:34:44,883 --> 00:34:47,586 You know, you can, and! Or course you do do your best and try to, 615 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,588 lout I'S JUSt SO MUCHA beter 616 00:34:49,721 --> 00:34:53,91 to have layered already SOMERS CMSCROMM CHOC MONmanees 617 00:34:53,224 --> 00:34:57,662 And, you Know, if you have @ cratit, you can certainly People say, 618 00:34:57,829 --> 00:35:01,600 ‘Well, you won't oe impulsive enough,” or "You won't be fresh enough.” 619 00:35:01,733 --> 00:35:02,734 cS NONSSeNSe. 620 00:35:03,568 --> 00:35:06,04 [Kathy] Paddy Chayetsky was on te set 2 lot 621 00:35:06,137 --> 00:35:07,639 anc was fantastic! 622 00:35:07,772 --> 00:35:08,640 Whet a guy. 623 00:35:09,174 --> 00:35:12,77 You know, he was just... Fle was great. 624 00:35:13,11 --> 00:35:15,914 BUC WIS Is Just a really embarrassing story: 625 00:35:16,47 --> 00:35:19,818 | had one line, basically, anc twas 2 moutiniul, 626 00:35:19,951 --> 00:35:24,289 And | was so nalve and so young and... 627 00:35:25,423 --> 00:35:28,660 That | asked! Pacey Chayeisky if Ae could change that line. 628 00:35:28,793 --> 00:35:31,329 And Ae was so kind, and he was kind of saying: 629 00:35:31,463 --> 00:35:33,665 “Well, ho, you know, you can tind a way to say iit.” 630 00:35:33,798 --> 00:35:36,735 Did you see tne tlm we mace of the San Marino jail oreakoutt 631 00:35:36,901 --> 00:35:40,305 demonstrating the FISINg UP OF 4 seminal orisoner-class intrastructure? 632 00:35:40,739 --> 00:35:43,08 [Dunaway] | tain | tried to tallk him into giving me 633 00:35:43,141 --> 00:35:45,577 A couple of naturalistic moments, I'm sure. flaughs] 634 00:35:45,710 --> 00:35:48,713 Can't | have one moment where you see how she's feeling? 635 00:35:49,581 --> 00:35:50,882 “NO, AO, NO.° 636 00:35:51,16 --> 00:35:52,751 Lumet] Ire began writing Network 637 00:35:52,884 --> 00:35:55,86 two and a halir years losiore he sent it to me! 638 00:35:55,220 --> 00:35:57,889 rie did tell me ine had talked to John Chancellor a lot, 639 00:35:58,23 --> 00:36:00,492 you know, the anchor tor NBC 640 00:36:00,625 --> 00:36:03,328 The rest of it, he knew. Hie knew trom his own experience, 641 00:36:03,495 --> 00:36:07,265 | think the collaboration with Chayeisky was one of the most thrilling things 642 00:36:07,432 --> 00:36:11,569 I've ever Nadi, pecause we had our own area of expertise. 643 00:36:11,703 --> 00:36:16,41 Paddy himselt hac very little visual sense. 644 00:36:17,242 --> 00:36:21,413 rie only knew i it was right or wrong, US Of NOt IrUS. 645 00:36:21,546 --> 00:36:26,618 Where | needed him clesperatiely was making sure 646 00:36:26,785 --> 00:36:29,721 that | got the laughter out of the seript that was necessary. 647 00:36:29,854 --> 00:36:32,757 Because le knew So much more about comedy than |. 648 00:36:33,792 --> 00:36:36,594 ‘There's a scene where lrioward Beale is walking along the street 649 00:36:36,761 --> 00:36:40,999 and he's in his pajamas and a raincoat, and it's pouring rain, 650 00:36:41,132 --> 00:36:45,370 ANG AC COMES Into the studio all soaking wet, 651 00:36:46,337 --> 00:36:49,908 Into the lodoy, and there's a2 guard, a security guard, at the coor. 652 00:36:50,842 --> 00:36:52,444 Opens the door for him. 653 00:36:52,610 --> 00:36:56,281 And | sai! to the actor, “When he comes, ‘Sure thing, Mr. Beale.” 654 00:36:57,82 --> 00:36:58,116 And he goes In. 655 00:36:58,249 --> 00:37:01,219 Paddy rushed up to me. Hie said, "No, no, no, Sidney, 656 00:37:01,352 --> 00:37:04,456 He Mmusint even notice that he's wet. 657 00:37:04,589 --> 00:37:09,427 rie musint notice that he's crazy. rie lives in a crazy world, this guy. 658 00:37:09,594 --> 00:37:12,363 This Is normal to him.” And of course, he was albsolutely right: 659 00:37:12,530 --> 00:37:17,01 | would have killed the laugin ir Ae had done the line the way | wanted him to. 660 00:37:17,135 --> 00:37:18,536 It would not have oeen Tunny, 661 00:37:18,670 --> 00:37:21,172 -Fiow co you co, Mr. Beale? -(Flowarel] | must make my witness, 662 00:37:21,306 --> 00:37:22,540 ‘Sure thing, Mr. Beale. 663 00:37:22,674 --> 00:37:25,610 [Lumet] What kind of tring, Paddy was lrreplacealole on. 664 00:37:25,744 --> 00:37:29,614 But it wasn't dificult at alll to find the level of craziness in him, 665 00:37:29,748 --> 00:37:33,218 Decause tinat cepends totallly on the actor who's playing the part. 666 00:37:33,384 --> 00:37:37,255 Some, you cain only go this tar pecause they can't push it any farther. 667 00:37:37,722 --> 00:37:43,94 Peter Fincl was Such a ricn vehicle, it could have gone God knows where: 668 00:37:43,628 --> 00:37:45,597 | pushed him as tar as fhe could go: 669 00:37:45,764 --> 00:37:50,735 And you will not take me oir the air for now or for any other soaceless time. 670 00:37:54,839 --> 00:37:55,874 [Maxx] Oln, boy. 671 00:37:56,407 --> 00:37:59,244 All we knew and all Sidney, | think, tried to get us to do 672 00:37:59,377 --> 00:38:02,514 was to play it alosolutely ror reall, Absolutely. 673 00:38:03,14 --> 00:38:04,849 You know, llire-anc-cleawi reall. 674 00:38:05,16 --> 00:38:08,319 And that's wnat made it tunny, pecause what they were talking about 675 00:38:08,453 --> 00:38:09,988 was kind of crazy stutr’ 676 00:38:10,121 --> 00:38:15,627 | want a show developed loased on the activities of a terrorist group. 677 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,531 Lumet] But things like the relationship oetween Holden's character 678 00:38:19,664 --> 00:38:23,234 and Dunaway's cnaracter was so solidly grounded. 679 00:38:23,368 --> 00:38:27,372 Paddy Set UP SO easily 2 man in a miclive crisis 680 00:38:27,505 --> 00:38:29,841 and a young, boeautiirul, amloitious Girl, 681 00:38:30,341 --> 00:38:34,546 SO that, bang, 2S SOON as the two meet, you know it’s almost inevitable. 682 00:38:34,913 --> 00:38:36,14 Is your wite In town’? 683 00:38:37,749 --> 00:38:38,583 Ves] 684 00:38:39,884 --> 00:38:41,786 Well, then we letter go to my place 685 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,724 NBC is Ofrering 3.25 mil per package of tive James Bono movies. 686 00:38:46,858 --> 00:38:48,860 And Inn gonna stick ihe Mao Tse-Tung Hour in at 8 687 00:38:49,27 --> 00:38:51,863 pecause we're having a lot or trouble selling The Mao Tse-Tung hlour. 688 00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:55,600 And Walter says welll all wind up in federal prison. 689 00:38:56,334 --> 00:38:59,204 Dunaway] Tnat’s who she Is. ‘That's what turns her on, her work: 690 00:38:59,737 --> 00:39:04,742 Ane the tact that it was merged with this sexual experience 691 00:39:04,909 --> 00:39:09,447 with the man she actually did kind of love was just beautiful writing. 692 00:39:09,581 --> 00:39:10,682 It was just So funny! 693 00:39:10,815 --> 00:39:13,585 ne New York limes and the Washington Post 694 00:39:13,718 --> 00:39:16,120 will be writing two editorials a week On US, 695 00:39:16,621 --> 00:39:19,591 We'll be tront page ror montis. Weill have more press than Watergate. 696 00:39:19,724 --> 00:39:21,993 Dunaway] It was a hare scene aS an AGiress 697 00:39:22,126 --> 00:39:24,462 thought well of to do. [chuckles] 698 00:39:24,596 --> 00:39:27,131 But it was, | Wlnlk, very important for the character. 699 00:39:27,265 --> 00:39:30,68 You know, it wasn't a naturalistic piece at alll. 700 00:39:30,201 --> 00:39:31,870 It was a lolack comedctys 701 00:39:32,03 --> 00:39:33,972 NBC's got a lock on dayume: 702 00:39:34,472 --> 00:39:36,207 Loves their game shows, 703 00:39:36,374 --> 00:39:39,244 [Dunaway] Thnere was only one naturalistic scene in the whole thing, 704 00:39:39,377 --> 00:39:42,580 and that was with Beatrice Straight woen Bill Holden lek her. 705 00:39:42,714 --> 00:39:45,750 | thought t was a transient thing, ic plow over in a week. 706 00:39:47,85 --> 00:39:51,923 | still pray to God! it's just a menopausal infatuation. 707 00:39:52,90 --> 00:39:55,793 Lumet] | knew that she had to get past 4 certain point 708 00:39:55,927 --> 00:39:59,530 or reallly almost exhaustion before she'd hit it right. 709 00:39:59,697 --> 00:40:02,667 And the only way you clo that ts oy shooting and shooting and shooting: 710 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,337 And || rememioer it was very charming because arter albout the third take 711 00:40:06,504 --> 00:40:09,307 and she was getting bigger and bigger and chewing the scenery, 712 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,543 and Paddy came over and le sald) “Sidney, that's much too much.” 713 00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:15,914 | said, “Paday, you know aloout comedy. | know aloout divorce. 714 00:40:16,881 --> 00:40:19,117 So sit down. It'll be alll right." 715 00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:21,319 Because | knew exacily what | was going for. 716 00:40:21,452 --> 00:40:23,321 | just let her, like a racehorse 717 00:40:23,488 --> 00:40:27,58 where you just want her to get that first burst of speed out of her system. 718 00:40:27,191 --> 00:40:30,28 Is that what's lett tor me? Is that my share? 719 00:40:30,161 --> 00:40:32,597 She gets the winter passion and | get the dotage? 720 00:40:33,164 --> 00:40:35,99 What am | supposed to do? Am | supposed to... 721 00:40:35,233 --> 00:40:37,502 Lumet] And then loy aloout take sb<, take seven, 722 00:40:38,236 --> 00:40:39,737 it began to have a shape. 723 00:40:40,405 --> 00:40:42,974 And= Because | didnt wanna break it up: 724 00:40:43,107 --> 00:40:47,946 | knew | wanted an emotional through line on it 725 00:40:48,79 --> 00:40:51,582 lout with 2 Shape to It, and the shape had to be, 726 00:40:51,716 --> 00:40:55,787 Just as It would loe in those real circumstances, 727 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,924 that you start with a lourst out then you're drained slowly, 728 00:41:00,91 --> 00:41:03,695 it all runs Out, and you just wind up so simply 729 00:41:03,861 --> 00:41:07,298 because there was nothing ler in her anymore, no more feeling, no more tears. 730 00:41:07,432 --> 00:41:08,967 It was alll spent, 731 00:41:10,401 --> 00:41:12,36 | wont give you up easily, Mexx! 732 00:41:12,570 --> 00:41:18,409 [Lumet] Sle was so taloulous, and | love how sympathetic she ts to him, 733 00:41:19,77 --> 00:41:21,379 | think perhaps It Is beter if you move out. 734 00:41:21,512 --> 00:41:23,81 Lumet] As hurt as sine Is, 735 00:41:23,214 --> 00:41:25,917 ner heart is sull going out to him because she loves him. 736 00:41:27,785 --> 00:41:29,420 [Louise] Does she love you, Max? 737 00:41:30,555 --> 00:41:33,624 (leim] Stutr thet makes sense in the script often changes, 738 00:41:33,758 --> 00:41:35,526 and certainly that's what happened here. 739 00:41:35,693 --> 00:41:39,197 The scene with Beatrice Straight used no Come loeiore the scene at the leach 740 00:41:39,364 --> 00:41:45,870 he ditrerence being thet when you saw the scene with Faye Dunaway 741 00:41:46,04 --> 00:41:48,406 aiier the power or the scene with his wite, 742 00:41:49,07 --> 00:41:52,777 you said to yourselt, "Well, this guy's crazy." 743 00:41:52,944 --> 00:41:57,915 rere Ine Is In tals tormented relationship where he’s not even enjoying the sex. 744 00:41:58,49 --> 00:42:02,320 lt made lAinn Out to be a clown. SOMVEMMOMECRINEENVORSCOMe SHAOUINGE 745 00:42:03,421 --> 00:42:04,322 Wit Or without you, 746 00:42:04,455 --> 00:42:06,391 i'm going to take over your network news show, 747 00:42:06,524 --> 00:42:08,760 and | figured | might as well start tonight. 748 00:42:08,893 --> 00:42:11,29 Lumet] In a way, Faye had the most difficult part, 749 00:42:11,162 --> 00:42:14,632 pecause all of her natural warnth 750 00:42:14,766 --> 00:42:17,201 anc alll of her natural emotion 751 00:42:18,36 --> 00:42:21,339 nad to be channeled into one specitic place 752 00:42:21,472 --> 00:42:23,674 and wasn't allowed to have any other expression. 753 00:42:23,808 --> 00:42:25,943 DO you wanna figure out die revenues of a strip show 754 00:42:26,77 --> 00:42:27,712 iat Sells tor 100,000 bucks a minute? 755 00:42:27,879 --> 00:42:30,415 One show like that could pull this whole network right out of the hole 756 00:42:30,548 --> 00:42:32,950 it's being handed to us on a plate, 757 00:42:33,84 --> 00:42:34,218 Lets not plow ft 758 00:42:34,819 --> 00:42:37,455 [Lumet] But | think one of the best moments of acting 759 00:42:37,588 --> 00:42:39,323 Kinat Faye has in the movie 760 00:42:40,91 --> 00:42:41,926 is when he's leaving her 761 00:42:42,493 --> 00:42:45,163 and he's got that long, wondertul speech to her: 762 00:42:45,329 --> 00:42:50,568 And le says, “You're a television baloy. You think lite was created by Bugs Bunny." 763 00:42:50,701 --> 00:42:53,971 You even shatter the sensations of time and space 764 00:42:54,105 --> 00:42:58,443 Into split seconds and instant replays, 765 00:42:58,609 --> 00:43:02,547 [Lumet] When | snot a reaction, inere was 2 look of confusion on ler face, 766 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,248 Youre madness, Diana, 767 00:43:05,349 --> 00:43:08,586 Lumet] She cidnt know what tne hell he was talking about, 768 00:43:09,454 --> 00:43:10,955 lout she knew he was Figini 769 00:43:11,122 --> 00:43:14,258 | think at one point | hac a line there, is what is in my mind. 770 00:43:14,392 --> 00:43:15,593 It May Or may not loe true, 771 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:20,531 out | remember starting to say something and hearing “Cut!” [laughs] I'm thinking: 772 00:43:20,665 --> 00:43:23,401 “Why cid you cut there’? Why did=? What happened?” 773 00:43:23,568 --> 00:43:26,571 And ne said, “Because you looked at iim like he was from Mars, 774 00:43:26,704 --> 00:43:28,673 anc that’s all we need.” You know? 775 00:43:28,806 --> 00:43:32,276 And | think for me, It's that moment when lhe looks at me and says: 776 00:43:32,410 --> 00:43:34,11 | Just wanAt you to love me.” 777 00:43:34,145 --> 00:43:37,515 | Just want you to love me, orimal doubts and alll. 778 00:43:38,82 --> 00:43:40,952 [Dunaway] Ane! | think that's the moment iat devined the character, 779 00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:46,224 That SAS just doesnt know wnio someone Is who needs that stu. 780 00:43:47,325 --> 00:43:49,93 | don’t Know ow to clo ting 781 00:43:49,594 --> 00:43:53,631 [Dunaway] And tt was just So poignant and so painful and so tragic 782 00:43:53,764 --> 00:43:57,201 that there's this person Wino so Cidnt have that 783 00:43:57,335 --> 00:43:59,03 inet she doesn even Know wiiat It Is: 784 00:43:59,170 --> 00:44:02,907 Lumet] For aye, the proolem of not being able to play the feelings 785 00:44:03,307 --> 00:44:06,878 tat SAS would normally have must have been terribly difficult, 786 00:44:07,11 --> 00:44:10,414 Most acwesses would have wanted to let just a litde tear come 787 00:44:10,548 --> 00:44:12,550 Into the edge of the eye, you Know. 788 00:44:12,683 --> 00:44:14,452 No, sie knew loeitter, 789 00:44:14,585 --> 00:44:16,87 TAS IS HOt a Script, Diana. 790 00:44:17,255 --> 00:44:19,957 Where's some reall, actual litte going on here. 791 00:44:20,91 --> 00:44:24,95 Lumet] And | noticed that waenever we did the scene iin rehearsal, 792 00:44:24,228 --> 00:44:27,431 inant Bill Flolden woulc: never look into her eyes. 793 00:44:27,565 --> 00:44:30,568 ried look here, he'd look aloove, he'd look there, he'd look... 794 00:44:30,701 --> 00:44:33,337 Ane! OF course, alll of a sucden, it was quite clear to me why, 795 00:44:33,471 --> 00:44:36,841 which Is that lhe was atiraicl of what was going on inside of hin 796 00:44:36,974 --> 00:44:39,243 anc Cidnt want it to come out 797 00:44:39,377 --> 00:44:41,946 Ane! SO the day that we shot the scene, 798 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,182 | sald] just one thing to him: 799 00:44:44,315 --> 00:44:51,122 | said, “Bill, WASCA you start thls, look at ner anc con't loreal tiie look, 800 00:44:51,289 --> 00:44:55,660 JUSt Stay Eye to eye.” And this world welled up within him. 801 00:44:55,793 --> 00:44:59,263 | mean, it's one of the best pieces of acting he has in the movie. 802 00:44:59,430 --> 00:45:03,367 | reel lousy aloout the pain that I've caused my wie and my kids. 803 00:45:03,534 --> 00:45:06,571 | reel Quilty ane cConscience-siricken and all of those things 804 00:45:06,704 --> 00:45:08,139 Kat you think sentimental 805 00:45:08,272 --> 00:45:12,343 Ou WhIGA my generation callls simple human decency. 806 00:45:12,843 --> 00:45:16,13 [Lumet] What's the Kind or thing you can only find out in rehearsal, 807 00:45:16,147 --> 00:45:19,584 because you need tine continual exposure 808 00:45:19,717 --> 00:45:22,86 tO the same thing happening again and again 809 00:45:22,253 --> 00:45:26,657 to give you an inkling of “An-aln, there's something interesting here.” 810 00:45:27,124 --> 00:45:29,627 Weill tell you any shit you want to hear. 811 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,195 ere is no Americal 812 00:45:31,329 --> 00:45:33,297 Youre Hot the worst fuck I’ve ever had! 813 00:45:33,464 --> 00:45:37,235 I'm Diana Caristensen, 2 racist lackey of the imperialist ruling circles. 814 00:45:37,368 --> 00:45:40,04 I'm Laureen loobs, a badass commie nigga. 815 00:45:40,137 --> 00:45:42,306 Sounds like the basis of a firm friendship. 816 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,09 Lumet] leverythning that happenee was grist tor Paddy's mill, 817 00:45:45,142 --> 00:45:47,211 and everyining to him was funny. 818 00:45:47,345 --> 00:45:50,381 Not necessarily “na-a.- rile was a very wise man. 819 00:45:50,548 --> 00:45:54,85 Fie knows that a lot of what we live through is temporary. 820 00:45:54,585 --> 00:45:57,321 ‘Iheretore, lhe teels quite tree to make fun of it 821 00:45:57,455 --> 00:45:59,657 (Laureen] I'm gonna make a TV star out of you. 822 00:46:00,258 --> 00:46:03,628 Just like Arce Bunker, 823 00:46:03,794 --> 00:46:08,532 Lumet] Ihe whole revolutionary movement was just grist tor his mill. 824 00:46:08,666 --> 00:46:10,568 What the fuck are you talking albout’? 825 00:46:10,968 --> 00:46:13,37 riave we settled that sublicensing thing? 826 00:46:13,204 --> 00:46:19,110 [Gottiried|] With all the posing ance with alll the so-called concern for truth, 827 00:46:19,277 --> 00:46:22,179 the one thing iat these people were interested in, 828 00:46:22,313 --> 00:46:24,415 just like anyone else, Was the proritt. 829 00:46:24,582 --> 00:46:26,917 ihe Communist Party's not gonna see a nickel out of this goddamn show 830 00:46:27,51 --> 00:46:28,586 until we Go Into syndication. 831 00:46:28,753 --> 00:46:32,89 (Gottiriec|] No matter wnat your politics were and how they moved you, 832 00:46:32,223 --> 00:46:35,359 kt was we ultimate buck that everybody was interested in, 833 00:46:35,526 --> 00:46:38,996 SO Stop the double-talk and the bullshit and let's get down to it. 834 00:46:39,497 --> 00:46:42,166 I'm not knocking down my goddamn distriloution charges. 835 00:46:43,801 --> 00:46:47,638 Man, give ler tine tucking overnead clause. 836 00:46:48,72 --> 00:46:50,474 Lumet] "ll tell you, | miss Paddy Chayetsky every day, 837 00:46:50,608 --> 00:46:54,412 pecause is take on te roliculousness| 838 00:46:55,246 --> 00:46:57,415 Of some of the things that we live through Is... 839 00:46:57,548 --> 00:47:01,952 I've never known anyone to have any sense of that 840 00:47:02,86 --> 00:47:03,721 Ko the degree that Pacily did. 841 00:47:03,854 --> 00:47:07,291 What was So much Tun was, | got the feeling from Sidney 842 00:47:07,425 --> 00:47:09,593 drat | couldn't go over tine top, 843 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,998 Now, when | watch it, | teel like | was way over the top, way over the top. 844 00:47:14,131 --> 00:47:16,167 | mean, he said, “Are you a Presbyterian?” 845 00:47:16,300 --> 00:47:18,169 | said, “No, | grew up in a different church, 846 00:47:18,302 --> 00:47:20,71 lout | used to go to a Presbyterian church." 847 00:47:20,237 --> 00:47:22,573 And Ae said, "Do you remember the preacher there?” 848 00:47:22,707 --> 00:47:25,443 | said, “Derinitely. It was a triend! [| used to sing in a choir.” 849 00:47:25,576 --> 00:47:27,511 rie said, “What kind of preacner was this guy?” 850 00:47:27,645 --> 00:47:29,613 | said, “lt was Interesting. He was a sweet man, 851 00:47:29,780 --> 00:47:33,50 our WheN AS Got Going, man, it was like, ohwoo, you know... [mumbles quickly] 852 00:47:33,184 --> 00:47:35,753 nile was like this. And he wore, you know, a robe 853 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,590 And ne would try to stay at the, you know, at the lectern, ut lhe couldn't. 854 00:47:39,757 --> 00:47:43,327 ried walk and he'd move, and, you know... And he said, “It was very theatrical?" 855 00:47:43,461 --> 00:47:45,196 | said, “Yealn, Ae was pretty theatrical.” 856 00:47:45,329 --> 00:47:47,832 rie said, “Okay, that's the guy l want you to do.” flaughing] 857 00:47:47,965 --> 00:47:49,266 ‘SO | said, “Okay.” 858 00:47:50,201 --> 00:47:55,639 And wien he came into that room on Monday and saw ne’s at this end of the room 859 00:47:55,773 --> 00:48:00,77 anc lrlowara |Beale’s at that, they re 35 feet apart, 860 00:48:00,211 --> 00:48:05,282 and Ine became aware of how tar | wanted to go in performance, 861 00:48:05,416 --> 00:48:07,752 mine tension for him was enormous, 862 00:48:07,918 --> 00:48:12,390 And | said! to Alm, | remember saying to him, “Ned, use it. 863 00:48:12,523 --> 00:48:14,425 Your whole litte depends on this man. 864 00:48:14,558 --> 00:48:15,926 Now get througii to him." 865 00:48:16,93 --> 00:48:21,31 You have medalled with the primal torces of nature, Mr. Beale, 866 00:48:21,165 --> 00:48:23,67 ano | wont pave fi 867 00:48:23,567 --> 00:48:25,736 [Lumet] And wien | printed the first take, 868 00:48:25,870 --> 00:48:27,738 ne knew that hed gotten i! 869 00:48:27,872 --> 00:48:31,75 Ile worid is a lousiness, Mr. Beale, 870 00:48:32,109 --> 00:48:34,578 [Beatty] Peter Finch was alosolutely wonderiul off-camera. 871 00:48:34,712 --> 00:48:36,547 rie was always there, always looking at me. 872 00:48:36,714 --> 00:48:39,717 IEVery Ones In a while, | would co something really weird, and he'd go... 873 00:48:40,918 --> 00:48:42,253 KS tals Or SometHING. 874 00:48:42,753 --> 00:48:46,590 SO at the end, | got to do his ot-camera, and he’s sitting there listening to me, 875 00:48:46,724 --> 00:48:48,926 and at ONS POINit, | jumped up on the table. 876 00:48:49,59 --> 00:48:50,828 | could have loeen arrested at that moment, 877 00:48:50,961 --> 00:48:53,497 DSCAUSS that Was ithe reall table that goes in that real room, 878 00:48:53,664 --> 00:48:57,168 whicn is where the Rocketellers and all the people sat who were people 879 00:48:57,301 --> 00:48:58,903 in the New Yorlk Pulolic Library system, 880 00:48:59,36 --> 00:49:02,706 And | got up there and | started l was doing the speech, 881 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,875 and | was acwally coing the gorilla thing. 882 00:49:05,42 --> 00:49:08,913 | was loeating on my Gnest like this and trying to get him to laugh, you know? 883 00:49:09,46 --> 00:49:12,116 But he wouldn't laug|h. rie just went... like that. 884 00:49:12,750 --> 00:49:14,418 [Jensen] Good moming, Mr. Beale: 885 00:49:14,552 --> 00:49:17,421 -I hey tell me youre a macman. -Only desultorily. 886 00:49:17,588 --> 00:49:21,225 [Beatty] | met tewer or the principals than anybody else. 887 00:49:21,392 --> 00:49:24,995 Robert Duvall, | Got to spend a Ite fort of time with, but | was really= 888 00:49:25,162 --> 00:49:28,766 l was a day player. You know, | was a= That was a one-day shot there 889 00:49:28,899 --> 00:49:31,969 | actually got two days’ WOFK Out OF It, lout wet was luGK. 890 00:49:32,102 --> 00:49:35,39 It Was 2 ONG-day Part, WAIGH | 891 00:49:35,206 --> 00:49:38,375 ror a long ime, | used to dine out on reminding people: 892 00:49:38,509 --> 00:49:41,445 Never turn down a daly joo, you know. You never know. 893 00:49:41,579 --> 00:49:44,582 So, what do we do aloourt this Beale son of a loittch? 894 00:49:45,416 --> 00:49:47,84 Suppose we'll have to kill him. 895 00:49:48,118 --> 00:49:51,88 (Gottiriec!] Paddy always telt tniat at the end of the movie, 896 00:49:51,222 --> 00:49:54,124 we would kill oii ine Howard Beale character. 897 00:49:54,625 --> 00:49:57,361 Ane so they sat down in that scene, incidentally, 898 00:49:57,495 --> 00:50:01,365 waticn | think is one of thre lorilliant scenes that Paddy came up with, 899 00:50:01,499 --> 00:50:04,335 ane they had a business discussion, 900 00:50:04,969 --> 00:50:07,671 Killing him became a business decision. 901 00:50:07,838 --> 00:50:10,708 And it is the AR department's carefully considered judgment and mine 902 00:50:10,841 --> 00:50:13,244 that ir we get rid or Beale, Wwe shoulc be glole to maintain 903 00:50:13,377 --> 00:50:15,846 a very respecialole share in the high 20s, possibly 30. 904 00:50:16,413 --> 00:50:20,251 The final scene was just my tav= One of my favorite scenes in the world. 905 00:50:20,384 --> 00:50:23,53 BECAUSS Ow CaN you not wanna play a scene like that 906 00:50:23,187 --> 00:50:26,290 where people tallk alooutt, you know, an assassination 907 00:50:26,423 --> 00:50:28,826 as if it's going out shopping? 908 00:50:28,959 --> 00:50:31,862 [Flackett] Well, tine issue Is, shall we kill Howarc Beale or not’? 909 00:50:31,996 --> 00:50:34,265 I'd like to hear some more opinions on that. 910 00:50:34,431 --> 00:50:38,736 here was a certain kine of mind belhind tg that was so much fun to get involved with. 911 00:50:38,869 --> 00:50:42,406 | dont see we have any option, Irrank. Let's kill the son of 2 fitch. 912 00:50:42,573 --> 00:50:45,776 [narrator] it was a perrectly admissible argument that hloward Beale advanced) 913 00:50:45,910 --> 00:50:47,77 In tne Gays that rollowed. 914 00:50:47,211 --> 00:50:49,880 lt WAS, NOWEVEF, also a very depressing one. 915 00:50:50,447 --> 00:50:53,717 Noboaly particularly cared to hear his life was utterly valueless. 916 00:50:53,884 --> 00:50:57,922 [Lumet] Ihe Lee Richardson narration is 2 great part of the style of the piece. 917 00:50:58,88 --> 00:51:01,458 And what it closes, what that narration does, is two things. 918 00:51:01,592 --> 00:51:04,995 First of all, it Pulls it out of “real” reall! 919 00:51:05,763 --> 00:51:08,432 YOU are In a Movie as soon as that happens, 920 00:51:08,566 --> 00:51:11,335 it Gives you permission to laugh: 921 00:51:11,969 --> 00:51:16,540 Because Paddy's gonna get into some very dicey areas, 922 00:51:16,674 --> 00:51:20,945 and It's important tor an audience to know that it's okay to laugh, 923 00:51:21,912 --> 00:51:24,415 including wnen a guy is having an apoplectic fit, 924 00:51:24,548 --> 00:51:27,51 as lioward Beale keeps having. 925 00:51:29,420 --> 00:51:32,56 luploeat news theme playing] 926 00:51:32,222 --> 00:51:35,159 [Fleiml | like the idea of the narration very much, apart from the fact 927 00:51:35,292 --> 00:51:38,629 diat In a tilm with ho transitions, it helped a great deal. 928 00:51:38,762 --> 00:51:42,32 | mean, tine film has no dissolves. it's all straight cuts. 929 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,236 Everything in the film is straight cut, so that gives you an energy immediately 930 00:51:46,370 --> 00:51:47,571 Wwihicn Keeps YOU MOVING. 931 00:51:47,705 --> 00:51:50,240 And that was tne idea, just keeping that film moving. 932 00:51:51,442 --> 00:51:52,843 Newyork News ancnornman..J 933 00:51:52,977 --> 00:51:56,747 Lumet] And the person wAao put thie last sequence together for me, 934 00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,284 ner name was Lynn Klugman, anc she acted in te movie. 935 00:52:00,417 --> 00:52:02,319 She played the seriot oirl 936 00:52:02,486 --> 00:52:05,255 Flowared just said he was going to blow his brains out next Tuesday. 937 00:52:05,389 --> 00:52:07,992 Lumet] She worked in television. She was 2 script girl, 938 00:52:08,125 --> 00:52:10,861 and then also, she was 2 ite designer. 939 00:52:10,995 --> 00:52:13,497 So she showed me what she wanted to work with, 940 00:52:13,631 --> 00:52:15,466 and tien she put theni up On monitors! 941 00:52:15,966 --> 00:52:17,901 ISA we just pnotographec the four monitors. 942 00:52:18,35 --> 00:52:20,871 ,--S0t to death tonight in a rusillade of automatic mile fire. 943 00:52:21,05 --> 00:52:23,741 Lumet] And the last narration is the bracket 944 00:52:23,907 --> 00:52:28,112 tO PUt the whole thing back Into the place that Paddy wanted that piece, 945 00:52:28,245 --> 00:52:31,448 Wwihicn Is this sarconic laughter. 946 00:52:31,915 --> 00:52:34,251 [narrator] Ils Was ine story of Floward Beale, 947 00:52:34,418 --> 00:52:38,589 ine first Known instance of a man who was killed because he had lousy ratings: 948 00:52:38,722 --> 00:52:39,890 loveriapping cnater on IVs) 949 00:52:40,57 --> 00:52:42,359 [Lumet] But the television communtty kept saying 950 00:52:42,493 --> 00:52:45,496 that we lott the hana that was feeding us, [chuckles] 951 00:52:45,663 --> 00:52:48,298 made Paddy and | laugh even more 952 00:52:48,465 --> 00:52:52,503 OSCAUSS WE Galve them Many Good years and a lot of good work, 953 00:52:52,636 --> 00:52:54,838 and the whole icea Is So Silly. 954 00:52:54,972 --> 00:52:58,742 | mean, loyalty to wnat? To an advertising agency? 955 00:52:58,876 --> 00:53:01,912 A network executive who isn't even there the next year? 956 00:53:02,46 --> 00:53:05,549 You know, thie revolving coor that television lire is. 957 00:53:05,683 --> 00:53:08,285 SO that dic] come up 2 lot. 958 00:53:08,886 --> 00:53:12,790 But | con't think it aiirected either of us very much. 959 00:53:13,323 --> 00:53:15,492 Ihe response Is sensational: Hero, tell him. 960 00:53:15,626 --> 00:53:18,862 Son of a bitch, we struck the mother lode! 961 00:53:18,996 --> 00:53:20,864 I'm gonna make 2 lot of noise aloout this: 962 00:53:20,998 --> 00:53:23,834 [Gottiried|] | don't think the success of the movie, quite honestly, 963 00:53:23,967 --> 00:53:25,669 Was a SUFprISe to any Of us. 964 00:53:26,70 --> 00:53:29,907 From the moment that we started to preview it to audiences, 965 00:53:30,40 --> 00:53:31,575 Kinney responced very well. 966 00:53:31,742 --> 00:53:36,747 And when we tinallly opened tthe movie, die critics were very, very complimentary. 967 00:53:36,914 --> 00:53:39,583 Most of them were. You always get some who arent, obviously. 968 00:53:40,84 --> 00:53:42,319 But fits Hot your typical movie 969 00:53:42,453 --> 00:53:46,123 from thie point of view of a commercial motion picture. 970 00:53:46,256 --> 00:53:47,791 BU I Clic] welll: 971 00:53:47,925 --> 00:53:49,760 it didnt do extraordinarily well 972 00:53:49,893 --> 00:53:51,462 irom the point of view of box Office, 973 00:53:51,628 --> 00:53:56,266 our it mace alll tts money back and made orotits tor the company and all of that. 974 00:53:56,433 --> 00:54:01,138 But we also received ten nominations by the Academy for Oscars. 975 00:54:01,305 --> 00:54:06,09 Almost everyoody who had any important participation in the movie was nominated. 976 00:54:06,510 --> 00:54:08,112 And we received tour Oscars, 977 00:54:08,278 --> 00:54:12,182 But | was crushed that we didnt win the Academy Award for the movie. 978 00:54:12,850 --> 00:54:14,485 Quite candidly, | was. 979 00:54:14,618 --> 00:54:16,587 [Dunaway] You know, I'd been nominated twice, 980 00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:19,223 and usually you have to le nominated a few times 981 00:54:19,356 --> 00:54:22,760 betrore the Academy reallly seriously considers giving it to you: 982 00:54:22,893 --> 00:54:25,996 ‘SO when my name was announced, I... 983 00:54:26,597 --> 00:54:29,933 It was reallly... That's a very intense thing. 984 00:54:30,67 --> 00:54:31,568 Less now as I'm older, you Know, 985 00:54:31,702 --> 00:54:36,840 OU IS JUSt, tO Me, k was, anyway, very, very emotionally powerful. 986 00:54:37,07 --> 00:54:40,744 | mean, | wasnt sure || could wailk up there, but of course, you do, but... 987 00:54:42,346 --> 00:54:43,914 TAS nerves run very lhigin 988 00:54:44,414 --> 00:54:49,887 Lumet] And so we had the nominations, but the voting hadn't taken place yet, 989 00:54:50,20 --> 00:54:52,556 and we had gone out to Calittornia, 990 00:54:52,723 --> 00:54:55,425 | went out there, Peter went out there, and Paddy went out there, 991 00:54:55,559 --> 00:54:57,94 and we were hAuswing, you KNOW. 992 00:54:57,227 --> 00:54:58,762 We were doing radio shows 993 00:54:58,929 --> 00:55:04,01 and newspaper interviews and so on as part of the Academy campaign. 994 00:55:04,168 --> 00:55:07,404 A\nd | was Going to go to a raclo station with Peter that morming. 995 00:55:07,538 --> 00:55:10,307 And | came down the steps of the Beverly Hills Hotel. 996 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:14,378 rie was seated on a round seating area, 997 00:55:14,545 --> 00:55:19,249 and as | came cown onto tie main tiloor, Ae just tell off... 998 00:55:21,251 --> 00:55:22,119 onto tie Tloor: 999 00:55:22,252 --> 00:55:25,656 And | rushed over to him and took him in my arms, 1000 00:55:25,823 --> 00:55:30,928 and | knew something was reallly up pecause fie was not good about falling. 1001 00:55:31,61 --> 00:55:33,530 | mean, Ic create alll kinds Of safeties for Aim 1002 00:55:33,664 --> 00:55:37,67 winenever he would have |his apoplectic tit, 1003 00:55:37,234 --> 00:55:41,471 But this one was so gracerul, | knew that something very serious was up. 1004 00:55:41,605 --> 00:55:45,375 But= And that was the first time | knew that he'd hac 2 load heart 1005 00:55:45,909 --> 00:55:47,177 was 4 lneart attack) 1006 00:55:54,818 --> 00:55:59,89 I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take this anymore! 1007 00:55:59,223 --> 00:56:02,259 -Are they yelling in Atanta’? -Are they yelling in Atlanta, Ted? 1008 00:56:02,759 --> 00:56:06,763 (Gottiriec|] Network was clone aloout 28 years ago, and to this very day, 1009 00:56:06,930 --> 00:56:12,202 people, in writing ednorials in newspapers, will quote from Network 1010 00:56:12,369 --> 00:56:17,40 and discuss What's Going on today in connection with what Network had to say 1011 00:56:17,174 --> 00:56:20,10 aloout tie world and wnat was happening. 1012 00:56:20,177 --> 00:56:23,881 Ane! to have that happen, | mean, it's just almost unbelievable. 1013 00:56:24,47 --> 00:56:27,417 | mean, this isnt Shakespeare, you know’? And it doesn't pretend to be. 1014 00:56:27,584 --> 00:56:33,56 BU tne VISION that the movie displayed so eloquently is alive today. 1015 00:56:33,457 --> 00:56:36,93 Dunaway] It's Interesting that you say it's less funny now 1016 00:56:36,226 --> 00:56:38,362 Dpecause We've been there and done that. [chuckles] 1017 00:56:38,528 --> 00:56:42,633 You know, the reason it was so Tunny was because it was So outrageous as well, 1018 00:56:42,766 --> 00:56:45,502 and you're thinking, “Come on, no one's ever gonna kill somebody 1019 00:56:45,636 --> 00:56:47,70 on television, are they?" 1020 00:56:47,204 --> 00:56:50,707 Ane now we sort of think, "Veal, we think so." 1021 00:56:50,841 --> 00:56:53,76 What would you tellas saly tO an assassination? 1022 00:56:55,545 --> 00:56:59,416 | think | can get the Mao Ise-lung people LON BSACROMUS 1023 00:56:59,549 --> 00:57:00,651 Aas one of their shows. 1024 00:57:00,784 --> 00:57:04,154 The tilms of tthe “70s, you know, people do say, 1025 00:57:04,721 --> 00:57:07,824 nad a kind Of Sense of story and originality 1026 00:57:08,692 --> 00:57:11,328 Ktiat certainly isnt true in Studio films now. 1027 00:57:11,495 --> 00:57:15,699 You know, it's all romantic comedies or, you know, hardware movies. 1028 00:57:15,866 --> 00:57:21,204 ‘SO | think the uniqueness of the vision of the piece was really quite special, 1029 00:57:21,371 --> 00:57:24,574 and | don't know that they're making them like that anymore. 1030 00:57:25,75 --> 00:57:26,743 | was lucky to be a part or It 1031 00:57:27,411 --> 00:57:31,548 Lumet] | dont know where you could go with it if you began trying to do a story 1032 00:57:31,682 --> 00:57:34,718 aloout television today, lDecause its become its own satire. 1033 00:57:34,985 --> 00:57:41,124 Its SO rire with tear anc urgency 1034 00:57:41,258 --> 00:57:46,129 and imporance and unimportance. 1035 00:57:48,298 --> 00:57:53,403 TAS tact that the ratings are sometimes on the front page of The New York Times, 1036 00:57:53,537 --> 00:57:55,672 die Tact that actors Go on strike 1037 00:57:55,806 --> 00:57:58,141 DoecaUuse they can't get a million dollars 2 show, 1038 00:57:58,275 --> 00:58:00,377 | mean, Now are you going to sattirize that? 1039 00:58:00,877 --> 00:58:03,914 You know’? lrlow are you going to even make 2 comment aloour it? 1040 00:58:04,47 --> 00:58:05,916 Its Got tts Own buUIt-In comment. 1041 00:58:17,627 --> 00:58:19,830 Lumet] Because Paddy Chayersky was just, | think, 1042 00:58:19,963 --> 00:58:22,466 one of the magnificent American writers, 1043 00:58:22,632 --> 00:58:26,503 everyining he touched went way beyond thie specitic of what he was writing aloout, 1044 00:58:27,70 --> 00:58:29,172 And thats true or Network! 1045 00:58:29,306 --> 00:58:34,77 i's aloout television, lout it's aloout, really, in a much broader sense, 1046 00:58:34,678 --> 00:58:39,349 aloout tthe Inaloility or people to keep faith with themselves, reallly. 1047 00:58:39,950 --> 00:58:45,322 Everyone, ONS way Or anotnier, gets corrupted over the body of the movie, 1048 00:58:45,489 --> 00:58:50,160 And it Was Interesting now that atfiected the visual side of it, 1049 00:58:50,293 --> 00:58:52,863 loecause | remember talking to Owen Roizman, 1050 00:58:52,996 --> 00:58:54,464 winO Shot it, and || said: 1051 00:58:54,598 --> 00:58:57,834 “Owen, watt I'd like to do is corrupt the camera.” 1052 00:59:01,371 --> 00:59:04,741 -(Car engines rumioling] -[homs honking] 1053 00:59:04,875 --> 00:59:07,411 Lumet] We start very pure, very simple. 1054 00:59:07,577 --> 00:59:12,182 Not mucn light, not mucn aritiricial light, Just try to use what's there. 1055 00:59:12,315 --> 00:59:13,917 im gonna kill myself. 1056 00:59:14,484 --> 00:59:18,922 Lumet] And then by ithe last scene, | want iit to look like a Ford commercial. 1057 00:59:19,56 --> 00:59:22,426 Ane Owen Roizman Understood exactly what | meant 1058 00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:26,430 and siaried that whole transition into the corrupted camera 1059 00:59:26,997 --> 00:59:31,902 Into that first scene between Faye Dunaway and Bill Flolden, 1060 00:59:32,35 --> 00:59:33,970 into his office late at night; 1061 00:59:34,104 --> 00:59:37,74 ain alll of a sudden, tt Stars to take on 4 new look: 1062 00:59:37,207 --> 00:59:40,77 And tnat keeps getting more and more extreme as it goes On. 1063 00:59:40,610 --> 00:59:42,579 [man 1 on screen] It was heavy, baby. 1064 00:59:42,712 --> 00:59:45,615 Lumet] And then one of the rules that Chaplin had created, reallly, 1065 00:59:45,749 --> 00:59:46,750 was tinat with comedy, 1066 00:59:46,917 --> 00:59:51,88 you should lay ofr camera movement, that it had a tendency to hurt laughter. 1067 00:59:51,488 --> 00:59:53,256 | con't Know whether it was true or not, 1068 00:59:53,390 --> 00:59:55,525 lout generally, | moved mucn less than | usually do. 1069 00:59:55,692 --> 00:59:58,261 (Diana Dann tt, if we wanted helliire, we'd get Billy Graham. 1070 00:59:58,395 --> 01:00:00,464 We dont want tain healers, tent-show evangelists 1071 01:00:00,597 --> 01:00:01,932 or Oberammergau Passion Players. 1072 01:00:02,65 --> 01:00:03,600 What alioout that terriric new messiali 1073 01:00:03,767 --> 01:00:06,570 ABC WAS SUPPOSE to have signed Up as our competition for next year? 1074 01:00:07,237 --> 01:00:10,173 -[man 2] That's lAim. -lhe bottomless pit is here. 1075 01:00:10,674 --> 01:00:11,641 [Diana] That's hin? 1076 01:00:12,442 --> 01:00:16,346 ([Roizman] Paddy, the way he wrote nis scripts, he wrote them very visually. 1077 01:00:16,513 --> 01:00:20,550 Fié would cesecriloe how sheatts of light would le coming in through a window, 1078 01:00:20,717 --> 01:00:23,553 and i would be a smoke-tillec room, or it would be very dark. 1079 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,424 rie gave every description you could ever want in reading a script, 1080 01:00:27,591 --> 01:00:31,595 as far as wondering what Is thie look of this story gonna be about. 1081 01:00:31,761 --> 01:00:35,932 And! loesicdes looking tor story content, one of the things | look for is visuals, 1082 01:00:36,66 --> 01:00:39,469 of his description visually 1083 01:00:39,603 --> 01:00:41,371 or Gach Scene, Set and everything! 1084 01:00:41,505 --> 01:00:45,742 SO It took @ lot of mystery Out of it for me, and that appealed to me 1085 01:00:45,876 --> 01:00:47,210 DSSIdes the Story content 1086 01:00:47,377 --> 01:00:51,114 because | thought kt was coming from a guy that was being very ballsy 1087 01:00:51,248 --> 01:00:54,117 and Making statements that nobody had ever heard before. 1088 01:00:54,251 --> 01:00:56,486 A\nd | loved! the fact that he was speaking his mind, 1089 01:00:56,620 --> 01:00:58,788 and | just wanted to be a part or ithat. 1090 01:00:58,955 --> 01:01:02,959 [Rosenberg] Both Sidney and Pacey were experts on the television world. 1091 01:01:03,126 --> 01:01:05,762 They had come trom tine television world more so than I. 1092 01:01:05,896 --> 01:01:08,365 | had to be educated during the course of the film. 1093 01:01:09,499 --> 01:01:13,737 Luckily, Sicihey arranged ror Walter Cronkite to take me around 1094 01:01:13,904 --> 01:01:19,910 for a tour of CBS news facilities, and | began to educate myself about it. 1095 01:01:20,377 --> 01:01:23,880 Lumet] We literally had so many sets in the movie, 1096 01:01:24,47 --> 01:01:27,918 there wasn't a stuclo in New York that could have taken care of that movie. 1097 01:01:28,84 --> 01:01:32,489 TAS only possilole one would have been out in Astoria, and | think that was occupied. 1098 01:01:32,622 --> 01:01:34,324 So it was almost no choice: 1099 01:01:34,491 --> 01:01:39,262 And we got = lriad the great good luck that MGM had this wonderiul building 1100 01:01:39,396 --> 01:01:44,534 at 1350 Avenue of the Americas with three empty floors. 1101 01:01:44,668 --> 01:01:47,704 SO it was like having a studio AllEKOROURSEIMESS 1102 01:01:47,837 --> 01:01:51,374 | was given an entire empty rloor at the MGM building. 1103 01:01:52,42 --> 01:01:55,212 And then, taking Various priorities, 1104 01:01:55,345 --> 01:01:59,583 such as trying to tind a great view clown Sixta Avenue for Hackett's office 1105 01:01:59,716 --> 01:02:03,587 and geting a geography that made sense 1106 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:08,124 so that you had a teeling of seeing trough coors and through spaces 1107 01:02:08,258 --> 01:02:10,927 tO See the entire scale of the network! 1108 01:02:11,428 --> 01:02:14,30 ([Roizman] | was now strapped with working in a place 1109 01:02:14,164 --> 01:02:17,33 where | had to create this light 1110 01:02:17,167 --> 01:02:19,302 ano male it loox like it was reall 1111 01:02:19,436 --> 01:02:21,905 In a place where | had very litte control over. 1112 01:02:22,72 --> 01:02:26,543 ‘SO | was constantly putting ditrerent gels on the windows and things like that 1113 01:02:26,676 --> 01:02:29,579 and changing them from mayoe one shot to the next, 1114 01:02:29,713 --> 01:02:31,881 trying to maken trom one scene tO tae next 1115 01:02:32,15 --> 01:02:33,583 DeCAaUSS OF the light changing outside, 1116 01:02:33,717 --> 01:02:36,419 It mighit be sunny one minute, might be overcast another minute, 1117 01:02:36,586 --> 01:02:40,890 And it was a very difficult situation, lout we had to do it and do it quickly, 1118 01:02:41,24 --> 01:02:44,861 SO in that sense, that was a huge challenge there, 1119 01:02:44,995 --> 01:02:45,829 a huge cnallenge. 1120 01:02:45,996 --> 01:02:49,933 At night, we had to balance the light against the existing windows 1121 01:02:50,66 --> 01:02:51,468 irom buildings across the street! 1122 01:02:51,635 --> 01:02:54,904 We cidnt have backings and things like that that you would use on a stage. 1123 01:02:55,38 --> 01:02:56,906 TAoOse were alll reall backgrounds 1124 01:02:57,40 --> 01:03:00,710 | had! to keep ithe light so low-key inside te Offices 1125 01:03:00,877 --> 01:03:05,115 SO that you could see ithe light outside, you could see the windows outside. 1126 01:03:05,282 --> 01:03:10,287 And we were Working wit litte tiny 25-wait mushroom bullos, we call them, 1127 01:03:10,453 --> 01:03:13,590 and we were Making Up Ide GIMMICKS to put them in 1128 01:03:13,723 --> 01:03:15,392 and tae them loehind the desks 1129 01:03:15,558 --> 01:03:18,995 and on the ceilings and things like that to get little key lights 1130 01:03:19,129 --> 01:03:23,600 and sources of light, and still keeping them so far down 1131 01:03:23,733 --> 01:03:25,702 and working wicle open with tie lenses 1132 01:03:25,835 --> 01:03:28,538 so that we could have some detail outside the windows, 1133 01:03:28,672 --> 01:03:31,308 out a feeling of the background. 1134 01:03:31,441 --> 01:03:34,444 Because It | had worked lorighter and then stopped the lens down, 1135 01:03:34,577 --> 01:03:36,613 we would have had! pure lolack outsicle the windows. 1136 01:03:36,746 --> 01:03:39,416 The way | hear it, Mex«, you were primarily responsible 1137 01:03:39,549 --> 01:03:41,251 ror this colossally stupid prank: 1138 01:03:42,52 --> 01:03:45,88 -jannouncer] The UBS Evening News. 1139 01:03:46,423 --> 01:03:47,624 Wii Flowarg Beale! 1140 01:03:48,158 --> 01:03:51,261 [Rosenberg] We were sul witout 2 control room and 2 studio; 1141 01:03:51,428 --> 01:03:53,863 | thought it migiht be a piece or cake because we could go in 1142 01:03:53,997 --> 01:03:56,433 and get any of the network studios anc control rooms, 1143 01:03:56,566 --> 01:03:57,901 and | thougiit tt would los easy. 1144 01:03:58,34 --> 01:04:00,904 And as | went into the location-finding of i, 1145 01:04:01,71 --> 01:04:05,75 | round that we got Zero cooperation from the networks, understandably. 1146 01:04:05,542 --> 01:04:09,512 [Lumet] Nobody could knock oft their TV schedule for a long enough period 1147 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:11,614 KO GIVE US the time we needed. 1148 01:04:12,182 --> 01:04:15,285 And fortunately, we found this place outside of Toronto 1149 01:04:15,452 --> 01:04:19,622 whicn just rented television facilities, and it was alosolutely periect. 1150 01:04:19,756 --> 01:04:21,424 it had everything we needed. 1151 01:04:21,558 --> 01:04:22,692 And so we went up there! 1152 01:04:22,826 --> 01:04:25,195 | think we were there for a week or ten days. 1153 01:04:25,762 --> 01:04:28,531 Because tnere was 4 lot talking place in the studios. 1154 01:04:28,665 --> 01:04:33,903 | think the determining tactor was niniat we were alae to snoot tie set 1155 01:04:34,37 --> 01:04:39,376 and Nave activity going on live ia. the contro] room at the same time. 1156 01:04:39,509 --> 01:04:43,546 [Lumet] What we did was, In order to get a genuine television feeling, 1157 01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,415 was We put on 2 television show 1158 01:04:46,15 --> 01:04:50,754 and then photographed the television show being cone live. 1159 01:04:50,887 --> 01:04:55,158 [Fioward] This tule ts the gospel, ihe ultimate revelation. 1160 01:04:55,325 --> 01:04:59,763 Als tuloe can malke or lorealkk presidents, popes, Prime ministers... 1161 01:04:59,929 --> 01:05:02,866 [Rosenberg] In the seript, Paddy had called tor Howard to be in front 1162 01:05:02,999 --> 01:05:06,469 of a Gothic stained glass window, a church window. 1163 01:05:06,603 --> 01:05:10,06 And | knew that image was important to him, 1164 01:05:10,140 --> 01:05:13,09 lout || couldln't figure out a way to make that image work 1165 01:05:13,143 --> 01:05:15,578 wit the other clemenis or the show, 1166 01:05:15,712 --> 01:05:18,415 SO that’s when | got the idea of taking the stained glass window 1167 01:05:18,548 --> 01:05:22,619 and tuming It Into a rosette and creating the turntables, 1168 01:05:22,786 --> 01:05:26,589 wihicn originally were going to loe clriven mechanically by winches, 1169 01:05:26,756 --> 01:05:31,594 lout Sidney had a great idea or actually having the stagehands pushing them 1170 01:05:31,728 --> 01:05:33,963 and made it have a much more sense of reality 1171 01:05:34,97 --> 01:05:35,698 because you cid see the audience, 1172 01:05:35,832 --> 01:05:38,468 and he wanted to see as much backstage action 1173 01:05:38,601 --> 01:05:41,838 of the television world being snot as |e COUIIC. 1174 01:05:42,338 --> 01:05:44,908 [Lumet] And | think nS One of the reasons 1175 01:05:45,41 --> 01:05:47,277 tnat it has Such a Teel or reality 1176 01:05:47,410 --> 01:05:49,345 i terms or tie television work on it. 1177 01:05:49,512 --> 01:05:53,917 | mean, wien Fioward Beale comes out on his famous “mad as hell” speech 1178 01:05:54,617 --> 01:05:56,886 and walks out and people are ducking out of the way, 1179 01:05:57,587 --> 01:06:01,324 Kinat tiny lite ridiculous set Is exactly what the news sets looked like 1180 01:06:01,458 --> 01:06:02,525 In those days. 1181 01:06:02,659 --> 01:06:06,763 | rarely go to the set. Most editors don't go to sets, 1182 01:06:08,264 --> 01:06:09,466 You dont. J 1183 01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:11,67 Walter Murch goes as tar as to say 1184 01:06:11,201 --> 01:06:13,903 he never wants (ORSCCHAMACHOMOUMOREOSIUINE? 1185 01:06:14,37 --> 01:06:18,241 But | rememioer | cid go to the set up there, 1186 01:06:19,943 --> 01:06:21,377 DeCaUSse We didn't have film yet, 1187 01:06:21,511 --> 01:06:24,214 and | was just hanging arounc and watching the shooting. 1188 01:06:24,714 --> 01:06:26,749 And | rememioer talking to One of the engineers, 1189 01:06:26,916 --> 01:06:29,819 at how Sidney directed the live cameras, 1190 01:06:29,986 --> 01:06:34,157 and Sidney seemed as happy as I'd ever seen him just doing live television again. 1191 01:06:35,158 --> 01:06:37,427 So we shot that as live television tinen, 1192 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,430 It WaS prety amazing because 4 lot of the actors were nonactors. 1193 01:06:40,563 --> 01:06:42,599 They were people's assistants and tings. 1194 01:06:42,732 --> 01:06:45,568 Many of the technicians, many of the people at the console 1195 01:06:46,69 --> 01:06:49,639 were reall people, and their performances were pretty good. 1196 01:06:49,806 --> 01:06:53,343 | had asked Sidney aloout it at the time. | said, “You know what would lbe nice here? 1197 01:06:53,510 --> 01:06:58,948 What iv we put a star tiker on the camera! so that looking towards the audience, 1198 01:06:59,82 --> 01:07:00,583 nes like surreal?” 1199 01:07:00,717 --> 01:07:03,419 | hated those kind of things, 1200 01:07:03,586 --> 01:07:06,890 lout In this case, | thought mayloe it would just take it over the top enough. 1201 01:07:07,23 --> 01:07:09,859 And Sidney liked the idea. Hie said, "Go ahead, go for it 1202 01:07:09,993 --> 01:07:11,594 Why not?” So we clic that. 1203 01:07:11,728 --> 01:07:13,463 laudience cheering and whistling] 1204 01:07:14,264 --> 01:07:16,599 [Rosenberg] Ihe newsroom, | had done in a huge store 1205 01:07:16,733 --> 01:07:18,234 hat was empty on Sixt Avenue, 1206 01:07:18,368 --> 01:07:22,338 It was a gigantic retail establishment of some kind that | cleared out, 1207 01:07:22,472 --> 01:07:26,709 and we brought a spiral staircase to tie into fine control room 1208 01:07:26,843 --> 01:07:30,947 ane! then louilt the enure newsroom within that storetront. 1209 01:07:31,681 --> 01:07:35,718 Ihe only ume we were In a stucio was in a tiny insert stage 1210 01:07:35,852 --> 01:07:38,254 ror the scene with Flolden and Dunaway. 1211 01:07:38,388 --> 01:07:39,589 We were in tie til lousiness, 1212 01:07:39,756 --> 01:07:44,594 We weren't used to scenes of that nature, which are now quite tame in today's world, 1213 01:07:44,727 --> 01:07:48,431 and we wanted to make sure that she had complete privacy. 1214 01:07:48,598 --> 01:07:52,01 SO that was done in a litte controlled insert stage on 48th Street, 1215 01:07:52,468 --> 01:07:54,537 the exterior or which was shot in East Hampton. 1216 01:07:54,671 --> 01:07:56,372 [Diana] We're standing on the First Amendment, 1217 01:07:56,539 --> 01:07:58,741 freedom of the press, and the right to protect our sources. 1218 01:07:58,875 --> 01:08:00,243 Inarrator] On October the 75th, 1219 01:08:00,410 --> 01:08:04,681 Diana Christensen lew to Los Angeles ror what the trade calls powwows and coniabs 1220 01:08:04,814 --> 01:08:06,783 win our West Coast programming @xecs, 1221 01:08:06,950 --> 01:08:11,321 [Rosenberg] We never went to Calirornia, so the scenes iin California were done, 1222 01:08:11,454 --> 01:08:13,756 | believe, as | rememioer, out in Long Island, 1223 01:08:13,890 --> 01:08:15,959 win the Long Island lexpressway standing in 1224 01:08:16,92 --> 01:08:17,927 ror the thruways in Calitomia, 1225 01:08:18,61 --> 01:08:20,697 and with the use of dressing and light 1226 01:08:20,830 --> 01:08:24,100 we managed to convey the Califomia feeling. 1227 01:08:24,267 --> 01:08:27,370 lm thererore pleased to announce | am submitting to the board of directors 1228 01:08:27,503 --> 01:08:30,239 a plan tor the coordination of the main protit centers. 1229 01:08:30,406 --> 01:08:33,776 [Rosenberg] Ihe stocknolders meeting, we used the Plaza Hotel for the ballroom, 1230 01:08:33,910 --> 01:08:37,180 and then the MGM building was also very useful for the lobby 1231 01:08:37,347 --> 01:08:40,416 DeCause thie actual Howard Beale Show was shot in Canada, 1232 01:08:40,550 --> 01:08:43,86 OUR tAS People entering tne loullding and in the lobloy 1233 01:08:43,252 --> 01:08:47,90 ANG GOING into the show was happening in the MGM building in New York. 1234 01:08:47,991 --> 01:08:50,526 Mr. Jensen Wanhts to mest Floward Beale personally. 1235 01:08:51,861 --> 01:08:55,131 rie wants Mr. Beale in his otrice at 10:00 tomorrow morming. 1236 01:08:55,264 --> 01:08:58,401 Vallhalla, Wir. Beale. Please, sit Cown. 1237 01:08:58,568 --> 01:09:02,805 Lumet] Tae sequence with Ned Beeattiy was shot up in the boardroom 1238 01:09:02,939 --> 01:09:04,540 lor trae New Yorik Public Library: 1239 01:09:04,674 --> 01:09:08,11 And tie tirst moment | walked in, [ said, "That’s ft." 1240 01:09:08,144 --> 01:09:10,747 ([Roizman] In the screenplay, that was so beautifully descriloed 1241 01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:14,83 as far as the light and light efrects and things like that went, 1242 01:09:14,250 --> 01:09:17,153 it WAS ONS Of those things you picture and you can't wait to shoot itt 1243 01:09:17,286 --> 01:09:19,489 it's gonna be great-looking. 1244 01:09:19,622 --> 01:09:22,492 Well, as tt turned out, at the New York Public Library, 1245 01:09:22,625 --> 01:09:24,927 Key wouldn't let us rig any lights anyplace. 1246 01:09:25,94 --> 01:09:29,932 And so | was reallly hamperec oy how much | could co in the room. 1247 01:09:30,700 --> 01:09:36,39 And they allowed me to put one light on a post someplace, and that was it. 1248 01:09:36,172 --> 01:09:39,342 Everytning else had to loe on the tloor, nicden trom the camera, 1249 01:09:39,475 --> 01:09:42,78 Ane! so | found tt very limitne in that way, 1250 01:09:42,211 --> 01:09:44,380 ane so | tried to make tie loest | could of it, 1251 01:09:44,514 --> 01:09:47,83 ihe Arals have taken billions of dollars out of this country, 1252 01:09:47,216 --> 01:09:48,818 and now they must Putt It back, 1253 01:09:48,951 --> 01:09:51,220 [Lumet] And then through the use of the lenses; 1254 01:09:51,354 --> 01:09:53,623 loy Gnanging lenses constantly 1255 01:09:53,756 --> 01:09:55,625 as Ned Beatty was talking, 1256 01:09:56,359 --> 01:10:01,264 | was getting a greater and greater COMPOESSOMOMTOSeH Anoss 1257 01:10:01,998 --> 01:10:09,05 SO It kept, to me, looking like more and more of a starlit sky. 1258 01:10:11,74 --> 01:10:14,343 And! tie voice coming irom aloove It, the man coming trom above it, 1259 01:10:14,911 --> 01:10:18,881 winding up witn his walk around tne talole to where he finally arrives. 1260 01:10:19,415 --> 01:10:23,319 But first, tarough darkness, you lose alll the stars and all that. 1261 01:10:23,453 --> 01:10:25,955 Ano taen e's tiie SUT 1262 01:10:26,89 --> 01:10:27,56 1263 01:10:28,958 --> 01:10:32,528 -Because youre on television, dummy: -[Roizman] Sidney had said to me: 1264 01:10:32,662 --> 01:10:36,632 | WAIN It tO look like Peter's looking at him like he’s looking at God." 1265 01:10:36,799 --> 01:10:41,170 Ano! so | used this heavy backlight on him and lolew it out 1266 01:10:41,337 --> 01:10:44,307 so that Ine had this ethereal halo quality around him: 1267 01:10:44,440 --> 01:10:47,710 [Lumet] And! it lent ttselt, without ever forcing It, 1268 01:10:47,877 --> 01:10:53,716 Into a really complex visual metaphor for what he was saying. 1269 01:10:53,850 --> 01:10:59,255 And the truth of that piece in relation to today is unbelievable. 1270 01:10:59,956 --> 01:11:04,293 TAS world Is one large ecumenical corporation. 1271 01:11:04,427 --> 01:11:06,429 | have seen the face of God, 1272 01:11:07,630 --> 01:11:09,699 You just might be right, Mr. Beale! 1273 01:11:09,832 --> 01:11:12,235 ([Roizman] Ihe sequence that was interesting for me 1274 01:11:12,368 --> 01:11:16,72 was when they were discussing the planning of killing him. 1275 01:11:16,239 --> 01:11:20,243 | think | can get the Mao Ise-lung people LON BSACROMUS 1276 01:11:20,376 --> 01:11:21,410 Aas one of their shows. 1277 01:11:21,544 --> 01:11:24,180 [[Roizman] Sidney sort of let me do whatever | wanted in tinere. 1278 01:11:24,347 --> 01:11:28,217 ‘SO | did it very dramatically, with pools of light on the ditierent people, 1279 01:11:28,351 --> 01:11:30,486 lerYING tO Point Out certain areas 1280 01:11:30,620 --> 01:11:34,891 and the cliiierent faces, anc hice some areas in shacow 1281 01:11:35,24 --> 01:11:37,927 D@CAUSe those People were reallly, in their souls, 1282 01:11:38,60 --> 01:11:39,462 Key were lurking in the shacows. 1283 01:11:39,629 --> 01:11:43,966 They were planning this clancestine murder of another person because of the ratings. 1284 01:11:44,100 --> 01:11:45,568 i Was So bizarre. 1285 01:11:45,701 --> 01:11:48,571 And so | tried to treat it like that visually. 1286 01:11:48,704 --> 01:11:50,873 It reallly does look like 2 Ford commercial 1287 01:11:51,374 --> 01:11:56,579 I's SO perrect. It's so artiicial. 1288 01:11:56,712 --> 01:11:59,248 It looks reall, out it's totally artificial. 1289 01:11:59,382 --> 01:12:03,252 And that was also iin the staging of It, for instance. 1290 01:12:03,386 --> 01:12:06,322 Nobody moves. Everyoody’s in their chair! 1291 01:12:06,489 --> 01:12:10,326 Nobody gets up, NODOGY PIcKS Up a glass of water, nobody takes a cigarette. 1292 01:12:10,459 --> 01:12:11,961 es Static. 1293 01:12:12,94 --> 01:12:13,796 (irlacket] Where does that out us, Diana’? 1294 01:12:15,97 --> 01:12:18,301 ‘hat PUKS US IN the Shithouse, That's where that puts us. 1295 01:12:18,434 --> 01:12:20,570 [Lumet] So it was also in the pauses 1296 01:12:20,703 --> 01:12:24,407 and tie fact that nobody's voice ever got louder than that. 1297 01:12:24,540 --> 01:12:27,510 So, what do we do aloourt this Beale son of a loittch? 1298 01:12:29,679 --> 01:12:31,380 Suppose we'll have to kill him. 1299 01:12:32,114 --> 01:12:35,151 [Lumet] So ithe corruption of the camera was complete. 1300 01:12:35,284 --> 01:12:37,486 it had nothing to do with reality anymore. 1301 01:12:37,620 --> 01:12:42,225 And then It WAS Intercut with people arriving 1302 01:12:42,358 --> 01:12:44,427 Tor the beginning of ihe Howard Beale Show; 1303 01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,363 including our killers. |GAucKIes] 1304 01:12:47,496 --> 01:12:48,831 We see them arriving. 1305 01:12:49,432 --> 01:12:55,571 As a resullt, the movement versus the static quality in that room, 1306 01:12:55,738 --> 01:12:59,508 Ke tension lbetween those two things just keeps building and building. 1307 01:12:59,642 --> 01:13:02,845 It was very calculated on my part exacily how to do it. 1308 01:13:03,279 --> 01:13:04,914 Ladies and gentlemen, let's hear Itt. 1309 01:13:05,681 --> 01:13:08,417 -FlOow co you Teel’? -[in unison] We're mad as hell, 1310 01:13:08,551 --> 01:13:11,220 and were not gonna take this anymore! 1311 01:13:11,354 --> 01:13:14,156 Lumet] You are aiming ror the third act all along: 1312 01:13:14,290 --> 01:13:18,294 That's what everyaniing is being literally directed toward. 1313 01:13:18,427 --> 01:13:19,629 nats wet 2 director does! 1314 01:13:20,96 --> 01:13:22,765 Ihererore, what was very critical, for example, 1315 01:13:22,899 --> 01:13:26,636 WAS ASVEF to ave a2 Scene eadliied the way that scene was edited. 1316 01:13:26,769 --> 01:13:27,970 i's like 2 metronome, 1317 01:13:28,104 --> 01:13:30,239 There's ho other scene in the picture that’s goings 1318 01:13:30,373 --> 01:13:32,74 limmakes metronome ticking] 1319 01:13:32,208 --> 01:13:33,442 hat one does: 1320 01:13:37,914 --> 01:13:41,751 SO it was allso the only time during tie live television show 1321 01:13:41,884 --> 01:13:43,619 Kat we con't go Into the control room. 1322 01:13:43,753 --> 01:13:44,954 es all] out inere! 1323 01:13:45,454 --> 01:13:49,492 And then even tie floor lof the Howard Beale set, 1324 01:13:49,625 --> 01:13:52,428 hak Is Much more Frigtaly Itt 1325 01:13:52,561 --> 01:13:55,765 Khan any or the previous scenes in that television studio, 1326 01:13:56,332 --> 01:14:00,236 So these are alll of the conscious anc unconscious decisions 1327 01:14:00,369 --> 01:14:02,238 Which Go Into the making or a movie. 1328 01:14:02,371 --> 01:14:04,807 | mean, t was a completely unconscious clecision 1329 01:14:04,974 --> 01:14:10,713 to have the major crane camera come parreling in on Floward Beale that way. 1330 01:14:10,846 --> 01:14:12,214 Bur its 2 woncdertul shot 1331 01:14:12,381 --> 01:14:15,751 And so sometimes you know where they come trom, sometines you don't, 1332 01:14:16,285 --> 01:14:19,422 l figured it would loe aloout 42 16-week shoot, and Howard said: 1333 01:14:19,588 --> 01:14:23,793 'Slaney thinks he can do it in 11 weeks.” | said, “Eleven weeks? My God. 1334 01:14:23,926 --> 01:14:25,761 Witte all the material that’s in this? 1335 01:14:25,895 --> 01:14:27,630 Whoa, IS this gonna be a cnallengel” 1336 01:14:27,797 --> 01:14:31,33 Well, we did t in nine weeks. rive days a week, eight hours a day. 1337 01:14:31,167 --> 01:14:33,402 ‘SO | was very intrigued by that whole thing. 1338 01:14:33,536 --> 01:14:35,304 And everything that everyoody ever said 1339 01:14:35,471 --> 01:14:39,408 aloout Siciney being totally organized was extremely accurate. 1340 01:14:39,542 --> 01:14:43,245 One or the things aloout working with Sidney Lumet is that energy, 1341 01:14:43,379 --> 01:14:45,748 tat inerecilole energy that just keeps you moving 1342 01:14:45,881 --> 01:14:48,451 and discovering things all tne time. K's wondertull 1343 01:14:48,617 --> 01:14:53,322 And SO, Not because we were scheduled in any way to do it, 1344 01:14:53,456 --> 01:14:58,294 lout five weeks airier ihe film was shot, Wwe tumed it over to our sound! editors. 1345 01:14:58,461 --> 01:15:04,367 We had a locked ‘film. And usually you're months on a movie. 1346 01:15:04,500 --> 01:15:06,402 nis is terriic sturr 1347 01:15:06,535 --> 01:15:10,72 It is a shattering and oeauttiful sensation: 1348 01:15:10,239 --> 01:15:14,577 The main thing tor me aloout Network was There were two things: 1349 01:15:14,744 --> 01:15:19,415 Spending time with Paddy Chayetsky, which, as | said before, | miss hin every day. 1350 01:15:20,82 --> 01:15:23,652 And aS & Creative Sxperience, it was about as complete a time 1351 01:15:23,786 --> 01:15:26,55 as lve hac ever on a movie! 1352 01:15:26,188 --> 01:15:27,256 Everyining worked. 1353 01:15:27,923 --> 01:15:30,459 And winen It didnt work, we were alle to fix it, 1354 01:15:30,593 --> 01:15:33,829 SO from a2 creative point of view, twas 2 dream. 1355 01:15:34,263 --> 01:15:36,32 Iman & audience] We're number one! 1356 01:15:36,165 --> 01:15:37,700 Were humioer one! 1357 01:15:43,873 --> 01:15:47,543 [Walter] Sichey Lumet is 2 dear irienc! of mine. 1358 01:15:48,77 --> 01:15:51,13 rie was tie clirector on You Are There, 1359 01:15:51,147 --> 01:15:54,984 A program that dramatized historical moments. 1360 01:15:55,151 --> 01:16:01,90 We had CBS news people interviewing these characters trom history. 1361 01:16:01,223 --> 01:16:05,261 And that program was one of the most popular programs 1362 01:16:05,394 --> 01:16:08,130 of tis time in the early “50s 1363 01:16:08,264 --> 01:16:11,801 And people still come up to me OMUNEESINEE! 1364 01:16:11,967 --> 01:16:17,306 and quote my copy, which closed with “What sort of day was it? 1365 01:16:17,440 --> 01:16:19,775 A daly like alll days, iillec! with those events 1366 01:16:19,909 --> 01:16:22,78 inet alter anc illuminate our times." 1367 01:16:22,511 --> 01:16:28,250 It was a very popular snow, and he and | became quite well acquainted 1368 01:16:28,384 --> 01:16:32,254 through his cireciing that wonderful project. 1369 01:16:32,388 --> 01:16:36,592 And ainer tne program was presented, 1370 01:16:36,725 --> 01:16:40,162 every Sunday night, we would retire to-s 1371 01:16:40,296 --> 01:16:45,67 For a litte lilbation at a saloon Across the street trom tie stuclio, 1372 01:16:45,201 --> 01:16:51,73 And there we spent some time, and | got to know him very well. 1373 01:16:51,207 --> 01:16:53,776 rie Is indeed a genius. 1374 01:16:53,909 --> 01:16:55,878 newsreels clacking] 1375 01:16:59,215 --> 01:17:02,751 he nrst attempt on Presicent Ford's Ire was 18 days ago, 1376 01:17:02,885 --> 01:17:04,987 and again yesterday in San Francisco. 1377 01:17:05,121 --> 01:17:09,592 [Walter] In the 1970s, television news was still fairly new. 1378 01:17:10,359 --> 01:17:15,531 It reallly only got tts start 4 decade before, in the "60s. 1379 01:17:16,265 --> 01:17:21,170 SO We were enjoying the excitement of finding our way, 1380 01:17:21,303 --> 01:17:25,40 of discovering the new ways to do television news, 1381 01:17:25,875 --> 01:17:28,344 Kihie techniques we could use 1382 01:17:28,477 --> 01:17:32,915 and how we would get our film in and develop it in time. 1383 01:17:33,82 --> 01:17:37,253 All or that was very primitive compared to what we have today, 1384 01:17:37,386 --> 01:17:40,89 with satellite transmissions anc! all te rest of it. 1385 01:17:40,222 --> 01:17:44,660 SO it was an exciting time ror nearly all of us involved. 1386 01:17:44,827 --> 01:17:51,567 We were developing wnat television news really became in the “70s. 1387 01:17:51,700 --> 01:17:52,468 It Grew Up. 1388 01:17:52,635 --> 01:17:58,207 That was sort Of our passing through adolescence into adulthood. 1389 01:17:58,707 --> 01:18:00,843 | have decided to kill mysell 1390 01:18:01,10 --> 01:18:05,247 i'm going to blow my rains out right on this program 2 week from today. 1391 01:18:06,515 --> 01:18:08,717 lununcder crashes] 1392 01:18:08,851 --> 01:18:10,452 Walter] We were all anxious to see It! 1393 01:18:10,586 --> 01:18:12,254 Witr alll the aclvance pullicnty, 1394 01:18:12,388 --> 01:18:16,458 we realized t was playing upon our business, 1395 01:18:17,92 --> 01:18:20,496 ane we howled with laughter, 1396 01:18:20,629 --> 01:18:22,264 rolled over on thie iloor, 1397 01:18:22,431 --> 01:18:27,403 Wihtn the depiction of what television news was reallly like 1398 01:18:27,536 --> 01:18:29,638 i tne Movie version, 1399 01:18:29,772 --> 01:18:33,943 -TAIs iS going Out live to 6/ afiiliates; -|_ eave him on. 1400 01:18:34,76 --> 01:18:36,412 SO | dont have any bullshit lett 1401 01:18:37,947 --> 01:18:39,682 / just ran Out OF it, You See. 1402 01:18:40,82 --> 01:18:43,152 Walter] | uncerstand that, presumally, 1403 01:18:43,319 --> 01:18:48,457 tie movie was SUPPOSsed to be a combination of drama and comedy. 1404 01:18:49,491 --> 01:18:52,194 JO US in tAe News lousiness, it was all comedy. 1405 01:18:53,128 --> 01:18:58,667 It was So overdrawn as to what took place in the newsrooms 1406 01:18:58,801 --> 01:19:00,736 and how we put a Story togeiner. 1407 01:19:00,869 --> 01:19:03,572 Apparently the ratings went up five points last night, 1408 01:19:03,706 --> 01:19:06,75 and he wants rloware to GO back on and yell “Bullshit.” 1409 01:19:06,208 --> 01:19:08,110 fall laughing) 1410 01:19:08,244 --> 01:19:10,379 Walter] And | guess at the moment, 1411 01:19:10,512 --> 01:19:13,882 we probally had some concern 1412 01:19:14,49 --> 01:19:18,554 Kdiat thie pullic would think that this Is the way newsrooms really operated. 1413 01:19:19,221 --> 01:19:21,90 That is always 2 concerm 1414 01:19:21,223 --> 01:19:28,97 when you Teel thet your occupation is maligned in the movies. 1415 01:19:28,230 --> 01:19:30,99 And we alt tiat way aloourt it, 1416 01:19:30,232 --> 01:19:31,300 ror Goals sakes, Diana, 1417 01:19:31,467 --> 01:19:36,05 were talking aloout putting a manirestly irresponsible man on national television. 1418 01:19:37,72 --> 01:19:40,276 But the SUCCESS OF the Movie was hot a surprise, 1419 01:19:40,442 --> 01:19:44,580 | don't think, to any OF US Wo Saw I, It was beautifully produced. 1420 01:19:45,547 --> 01:19:49,251 Ihe comedy aspects, as | say, appealed to us particularly. 1421 01:19:50,286 --> 01:19:52,988 [man] Go to stancloy, you stupid son of a bitch! Dumlb schmuck. 1422 01:19:54,590 --> 01:19:57,793 Walter] But the drama in tt had its place, 1423 01:19:57,926 --> 01:20:00,663 aNd kt Seemed to me Guite clear the moment we saw it, 1424 01:20:00,796 --> 01:20:03,365 | think we alll sald, "This thing is gonna be a hit." 1425 01:20:03,532 --> 01:20:06,68 You lhad less than a minute of hard national anc intemational news: 1426 01:20:06,201 --> 01:20:08,804 it was alll sex, scandal, brutal crimes, sports, 1427 01:20:09,471 --> 01:20:12,241 children with incurable diseases, and lost puppies. 1428 01:20:12,374 --> 01:20:14,410 ‘SO | don't think I'll listen to any protestations 1429 01:20:14,543 --> 01:20:16,445 or high standards or journalism when... 1430 01:20:16,578 --> 01:20:20,416 (Waliter] | uncerstanc that Lumet was criticized by some 1431 01:20:20,949 --> 01:20:26,121 ror Putting on a movie that appeared to criticize a profession 1432 01:20:26,255 --> 01:20:30,592 that he himself had grown up with. 1433 01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:38,400 rils greet Success on television was with You Are There, and it really made him. 1434 01:20:38,534 --> 01:20:41,470 But the idea of anyloody criticizing lim, 1435 01:20:41,603 --> 01:20:45,574 | dont think, ever occurred to anybody in the profession. 1436 01:20:45,708 --> 01:20:48,911 Sour grapes, perhaps, MOMS OME MUNONMEKERCMNOUS? 1437 01:20:49,44 --> 01:20:53,82 out Not very meaningrul eriicism. 1438 01:20:53,215 --> 01:20:56,752 it'S Ficliculous. e's in. the entertainment business. 1439 01:20:56,919 --> 01:20:59,555 rie was in the enierainment business when he did You Are There, 1440 01:20:59,688 --> 01:21:02,257 which was under the auspices of the news depariment, 1441 01:21:02,391 --> 01:21:03,759 OU KKwas entertainment 1442 01:21:03,892 --> 01:21:08,464 Ane as SUGA, WNO expects im to have to uphold the banner 1443 01:21:08,597 --> 01:21:11,567 of any previous employer or any previous job? 1444 01:21:11,734 --> 01:21:16,739 his tule Is the Most awesome goddamn force in the whole godless world. 1445 01:21:16,872 --> 01:21:20,843 And wnen tie 12 largest company in the worlcl controls 1446 01:21:20,976 --> 01:21:24,413 goddamn propaganda force 1447 01:21:24,546 --> 01:21:26,281 In the whole goclless world, 1448 01:21:26,415 --> 01:21:29,918 wine knows what shit will oe pedalec for truth on this newyork? 1449 01:21:30,85 --> 01:21:35,657 Ihe Movie shows the corporate ownership Of the network 1450 01:21:35,791 --> 01:21:41,630 exercising Tar too muUGA Intluence on the news production, 1451 01:21:41,764 --> 01:21:44,99 actually distoning Mt. 1452 01:21:44,266 --> 01:21:49,04 ‘The new plan calls tor local news to be Wransrerred to owned stations divisions. 1453 01:21:49,171 --> 01:21:53,208 News radio would be transierrac! to the UBS radio division, and in efiiect, 1454 01:21:54,343 --> 01:21:57,413 dae News division would be reduced from an independent division 1455 01:21:57,546 --> 01:22:01,83 KO 2 department accountable to network: 1456 01:22:01,216 --> 01:22:06,822 There ts a lot of talk today; with tine ECC rules 1457 01:22:07,756 --> 01:22:10,92 permitting even more ownership 1458 01:22:10,225 --> 01:22:14,696 of multiple stations in single cities and throughout the nation, 1459 01:22:14,830 --> 01:22:17,766 as well as newspapers In communities... 1460 01:22:17,900 --> 01:22:24,72 ere is Concem that this could oermit serious iinterierence 1461 01:22:24,206 --> 01:22:26,608 with the integrity of the news reports. 1462 01:22:27,576 --> 01:22:33,415 | think that that danger possiloly exists, and itis one of the reasons 1463 01:22:33,582 --> 01:22:38,921 Ktiat we certainly in the news cepariments are somewhat concemed, 1464 01:22:39,54 --> 01:22:42,591 In tact, very concerned, aloout the consolidation of power 1465 01:22:42,724 --> 01:22:45,327 of a few organizations. 1466 01:22:45,494 --> 01:22:49,965 | wouleln't intieriere wiih the actual news itself, out TV is showbiz, Max. 1467 01:22:50,98 --> 01:22:54,69 ‘here ts a lot of criticism of television news today. 1468 01:22:54,203 --> 01:22:59,41 We know that there is a problem of the network executives 1469 01:22:59,174 --> 01:23:04,12 wishing to have the news presented with 2 little more eniieriainment value. 1470 01:23:04,580 --> 01:23:06,748 hey dont even dare use that word 1471 01:23:06,915 --> 01:23:09,918 oecause they know that if they asked the news department 1472 01:23:10,52 --> 01:23:14,423 to make k more entertaining, die News people would revolt. 1473 01:23:14,556 --> 01:23:17,192 lv you think I'm gonna go along with this bastardization of the news, 1474 01:23:17,359 --> 01:23:20,162 you can have my resignation along with Max Schumacher's right now. 1475 01:23:20,295 --> 01:23:21,930 They would protest, 1476 01:23:22,64 --> 01:23:24,500 You keep your hands off my news division, Frank. 1477 01:23:24,633 --> 01:23:25,801 Walter] And mayoe quit, 1478 01:23:26,668 --> 01:23:29,805 That could happen if the pressure got too great. 1479 01:23:29,938 --> 01:23:32,07 lFlackett] Your incignation has been duly recorded. 1480 01:23:32,140 --> 01:23:33,509 You can always resign tomorrow. 1481 01:23:34,76 --> 01:23:38,80 And it is a fact iat the pressure is there, 1482 01:23:38,213 --> 01:23:40,215 I've had it up to here with your cruddy division 1483 01:23:40,349 --> 01:23:42,251 and its annual $33 million deficit! 1484 01:23:42,384 --> 01:23:44,753 We're responsilole to corporate level, not you, 1485 01:23:44,887 --> 01:23:49,124 [Walter] It is not, however, to the extent at this point yet 1486 01:23:49,258 --> 01:23:53,762 Kina it seriously impinges upon the authority 1487 01:23:53,896 --> 01:23:55,597 ofr te evening News broacicast. 1488 01:23:55,731 --> 01:23:57,366 Weill goddamn well see aloout that 1489 01:23:57,933 --> 01:24:01,203 Walter] Tne movie was entirely a satire. 1490 01:24:01,737 --> 01:24:07,109 It POINtEd OU SOMME CONCEeMSs, Pernaps, that people already were beginning to have 1491 01:24:07,242 --> 01:24:10,679 regaraing the enterainment tactor iD. DSOWws. 1492 01:24:10,846 --> 01:24:17,586 It, in a way, waved a banner or warming to the television industry 1493 01:24:17,719 --> 01:24:21,890 Kina it beter not let things ga as far as it clid 1494 01:24:22,24 --> 01:24:24,493 on tina “network. 1495 01:24:25,93 --> 01:24:30,265 Ane | cont know what will happen with tis revival of it on the DVD fom. 1496 01:24:30,399 --> 01:24:33,969 | would expect that it will bring it up again 1497 01:24:34,102 --> 01:24:36,905 dat there Is too MUGA entertainment pressure against 1498 01:24:37,39 --> 01:24:38,974 On the news devariments. 1499 01:24:39,107 --> 01:24:41,610 iiihat won't oe 2 bad erect 1500 01:24:42,678 --> 01:24:46,448 as long as we continue to be remincied 1501 01:24:46,582 --> 01:24:49,585 Kdnat tre public is concerned aloout that, 1502 01:24:50,52 --> 01:24:53,488 [Fiowarel] I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take this anymore! 1503 01:24:53,622 --> 01:24:56,592 [thunder crashes, tien rumioles| 130135

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