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I feel like there's water coming out of
holes in my face. Yeah, that's what
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happens. We're squeezed like a sponge a
little bit. But all that said, there's
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no place I'd rather be.
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Hey, what's going on, everybody? For
First We Feast, I'm Sean Evans, and
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watching Hot Ones. It's the show with
hot questions and even hotter wings. And
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today we're joined by Jason Siegel. Hey,
man.
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He's an actor, writer, and producer you
know from films like I Love You Man,
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Forgetting Sarah Marshall, The Muppets,
and many more. He had a nearly decade
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-long run on the mega -hit sitcom How I
Met Your Mother, and you can also catch
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him on the acclaimed series Shrinking,
which returns for its much -anticipated
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third season January 28th on Apple TV+.
Jason Siegel, welcome to the show.
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Thanks, Sean. I'm really excited to be
here. What's going through your head as
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you prepare to take on the gauntlet? Are
you someone who enjoys spicy food?
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Yeah, I am, but I feel like that's not a
fair question. This is not designed to
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be eaten casually, right? It's designed
to fuck me up, but I'm ready for it. I'm
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excited. I feel nervous in my body, but
calm in my heart and mind.
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We just jump right in. We start with the
wing, I think.
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That's how it goes.
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Great.
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I've seen the show when people go, oh,
great, no problem.
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I'm no fool.
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Have you absorbed any profound words of
wisdom playing a therapist on
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television? Like, is there a therapeutic
tool that you've discovered by reading
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a script that's actually been helpful in
your day -to -day life?
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Yeah, I think that the approach that the
therapist that Shrinking is based on
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have is that people actually want to be
told what to do.
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And so unlike some other therapies,
they're like, listen, we will get to the
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bottom of this. Like, we'll get to the
why over months and months. But people
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want to know what to do on Tuesday.
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You know what I mean? When they have to
have the conversation.
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And these therapists will just tell you
what to say.
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It's a little bit controversial, but I
think it's actually wish fulfillment.
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I think that's what you want. Like, what
do I say to my boss on Tuesday?
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Great.
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I'm trying to take legit bites.
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The people will love that. Yeah, I think
so. Forever a showman, Jason.
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Well.
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That one's nice.
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That's really nice.
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So when Paul Rudd was on the show, he
talked about how the movies that he
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funniest are often categorized as
dramas, while some of the most dramatic
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moments in film have happened in
comedies. Does that at all ring true to
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and what immediately comes to mind when
you think about the phrase dramatic
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comedy? I've always felt like that was
the most honest version of any of these
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subjects. Heavy on heavy isn't really
how it goes in real life.
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And also, I think as a viewer, you kind
of get turned off. Like, okay, I get it.
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Like, I understand cancer is hard.
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You know, but like, what is it like to
get through it?
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Like, Sarah Marshall, that guy's having
a really hard time.
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You know, he's like crying at everything
and just really devastated about, you
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know, a breakup.
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I think it's fun to see somebody feeling
things a little too much on screen.
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And it lowers the defenses so then you
can sucker punch with some real dramatic
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stuff.
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So up next is a white hot mustard sauce.
You said it, dog.
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Man, I know it's coming.
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I'm a fool.
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But I feel like we're in kind of a...
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We're living in a safe space right now.
Yeah, you know, the difference between
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sauce one, sauce two, sauce three, we're
on the margins, you know, incremental.
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That's right. It will not remain that
way. No, I know. I'm a chicken wing talk
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show host of the highest dignity, and I
try to be transparent. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I appreciate that.
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I know everyone does.
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Try. Yeah.
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What was it like working as an usher at
the Santa Monica Playhouse as an 11
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-year -old? Like, did that experience do
anything to shape your aspirations of
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one day becoming an actor?
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I was a weird kid.
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And so they sent me to the Santa Monica
Playhouse, which at that age, it's not
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really for kids who, like, love acting.
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It's for kids who don't have friends.
You know, so you're in this room of,
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equally awkward people.
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But what I found there was that when I
was acting, I felt very comfortable. And
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I felt like I understood the assignment.
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In that space, I was like, oh, I know
how to do this.
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That was my first kind of flirting with,
this might be something
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that I'm, like, uniquely good at. And I
didn't have other things like that at
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the time.
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So far, so great.
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Some smokiness action on this one.
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Yeah. Little sweetness from the peach.
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Terrific. Kind of a little afterburn,
you know, to let you know where you are.
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Yeah, that's right. It says, hey, we're
getting there.
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A sign of what's to come. Yeah, yeah,
great.
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Was there any advice that Judd Apatow
gave you as a teenager that maybe at the
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time you didn't really understand, but
you look back now and think of as
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profound?
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Two moments I remember as being kind of
like anchor moments.
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One was I had to play a song on Freak
and Geek, on the guitar. I had to write
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and sing it.
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The script came in on like a Monday and
I had to do it on a Friday.
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I got the script and I said, Judd, I
don't know how to play guitar.
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Without missing a beat, he said, you'll
figure it out.
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You're living your dream. You figure it
out.
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And ever since then, I really do think
you'll figure it out.
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The other thing he said, which is the
best advice I ever got, and I've talked
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about it before, but he took me aside
and he said, Jace, if you can improv the
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way you're improvving here, you can
write. You just need to learn how to do
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You're a really weird dude. And the only
way you're going to make it is if you
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write your own material.
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I think, honestly, I'm still around
because of that.
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All right. Would you believe me if I
told you we are at the halfway mark?
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Totally.
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Story checks out. I can tell.
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The next one is called Tropical Amarillo
here. Great five spot.
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A fool who was too eager would start
chowing them down and then be met with
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consequences.
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Is it true that your mother sent out a
mass email warning family members about
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your nude scene and forgetting Sarah
Marshall, which included the line, it is
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not gratuitous and is essential to the
plot?
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Yeah, so I thought it would be a really,
really great, like one of the great
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practical jokes not to tell my parents
that I did full frontal nudity and
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forgetting Sarah Marshall.
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and then take them to the premiere.
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This was like a really thrilling idea
for me.
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And so we go to the premiere, and I have
my dad on one side and my mom on the
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other, because I always sit in between
them.
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And, like, within, it's like five
minutes into the movie, my dick comes
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know? And I'm like, oh, here it comes.
You don't have to wait long. Yeah, yeah.
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And I turn to my mom, expecting her to
be laughing hysterically, and her face
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beet red, and there's a tear coming down
her face.
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And I said,
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Are you okay? And she said, why didn't
you tell me?
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And I said, I thought it would be a
funny joke.
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It's not a funny joke.
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And she got up and left the theater. And
then she came back in and she put
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herself together.
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And then that night she sent out an
email to the entire family that said, I
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would like to inform you that Jason has
chosen to do full frontal nudity in his
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newest film.
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However, I'd like to assure you that it
is not gratuitous and essential to the
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plot.
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Factor of fiction. After a test
screening of The Muppets, you received a
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feedback card written by a seven -year
-old who said the one thing that he
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didn't like about the movie was your
character's face. That's right.
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That is fact.
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What do you learn from something like
that? I have it framed.
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It's like, what did you like? Muppets
are cute.
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What's your favorite part?
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Muppets sing.
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What did you not like?
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Gary's face.
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Isn't that awesome?
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Now, I've watched a bunch as compared to
other.
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Eaters, guests.
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How am I doing in relation to the wings?
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Steady hands.
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Steady. But up next is one that rather
rudely announces itself as homegrown
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in the sixth spot. The soft leopard.
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Mm -hmm. Her.
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Sean.
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I think trying to have any strategy,
trying to swallow it fast or anything
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that, it's useless.
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It's like a boxing match. You can walk
in with strategy, but once the punches
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start flying, all there is is survival.
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Story checks out.
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That's right, man.
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If you were to put together a Peter
Sellers double feature to show off his
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-taking as an actor, which two films
would you screen?
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I mean, I think if you do...
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Look, being there is for sure in there.
Being there broke my brain open.
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I was like, oh, you're allowed to do
anything.
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Don't let anybody tell you you're just
this or just that.
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And also, that movie is a drama, I
guess.
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There's also incredibly funny moments
and incredibly funny line readings. And
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I'm like, you do not have to be limited
by anything.
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I think you either put, like, for the
juxtaposition, maybe Pink Panther.
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Talk about dancing out there.
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There's like a little bit of bravery
that is required to take it for a spin.
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My nose is running a little bit, but
that's normal, I assume? Mine too. You
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know, do this whole thing, same
wavelength.
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Amazing, man. Up next is a sauce called
Nirvana.
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Yeah.
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Funky's hot sauce.
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And then the possessive. Like, Funky's
the guy.
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I'm not trying to be tough.
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Mm -hmm.
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But we're okay.
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Respect, because I'm a little smoky in
the chest right now, but I'm being
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totally honest. Because you confessed to
me, it's a new year, this is your first
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run at this conference. I've been on
vacation, you know, a lot of practice,
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I can feel it. I've got to work my way
back into game shape over here. That's
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all right. You're doing great.
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Thanks, Chase. Yeah.
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I understand that you would eat three
Hot Pockets.
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Every three hours. Yeah. To prepare for
your role in the end of the tour. What
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is pound for pound the greatest Hot
Pocket flavor in your opinion?
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The original pepperoni pizza.
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It's what I grew up on. But this was not
a healthy thing I did. I had to gain
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like 50 pounds for it because I had
gotten too skinny for something else
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before. I feel it now.
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Yeah. I had gotten a little too skinny
before.
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So I had like a month to gain 50 pounds.
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So I ate three Hot Pockets every three
hours. And it was super fun. It was a
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great time in my life, but I wouldn't do
it again.
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What makes the BLT the all -time
greatest sandwich? Because you can eat
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time of day.
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It's versatile.
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It is an absolutely perfect sandwich.
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From how I met your mother's best burger
in New York, to the raw potato and
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shrink one, to playing a chef in the
five -year engagement, do you have an
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-time favorite Jason Segel food scene?
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from your career? Ooh, a scene involving
food.
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Yes. There is a scene in I Love You Man
where we go around the table and all
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give totems.
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There were a bunch of comic geniuses at
that table and everybody was just
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slaughtering. Zinging?
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Everybody was zinging.
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I often make sure that I am enjoying the
company that I'm in.
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You know what I mean? Like...
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Holy moly, this person is amazing.
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And where better to do it than over a
meal?
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I feel that way right now.
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Yeah,
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this is the one.
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Starting to sweat a little bit, but I'm
keeping my cool.
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Always.
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Yeah.
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Might take a second to get this one out.
No, you're not like that, are you?
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A little bit? It's touching you. Every
time. Every time this sauce. I'll join
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you.
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Double bite and a bomb.
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Listen, man. Oh, so you go one for one
with whoever's here. I always, yeah.
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You have the wheel right now. I'm a
passenger.
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Okay. Good to know.
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Yeah.
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So.
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I should ask you some shit. Yeah, maybe.
Take the pressure off over here.
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So, before writing and starring in the
Muppet movie, I know that you were a
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longtime fan. Even crediting Kermit the
Frog as one of your most important and
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significant acting influences.
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Absolutely. Who do you think is the most
underrated, deep -cut Muppet character?
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Like, does Lou Zeland get the credit he
deserves?
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Look, I'm a big fan.
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I'm a big Janice fan.
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I think Piggy gets a lot of credit on
the lady puppet front.
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Janice is pretty exceptional as well.
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I also have the Jason Segel Muppet from
the Muppets, which is pretty cool
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because they also gave me a thing to
control it by remote control.
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So back in the day, I would tell people,
hey, come on over to the house.
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I'll leave the front door open. I'll be
there.
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And the puppet would be sitting on the
couch.
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And they'd come in and they'd look
around and I could see them. And then
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a sudden the puppet would be like,
hello.
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I've been waiting for you.
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When you're working on a movie with blue
chip IP, like the Muppets, do you ever
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have to lose a scene or a plot point
because it's nixed by the lawyers? Do
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have a scene that you most regret losing
to the red lines of a contract?
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I do, but it wasn't to a contract. It
was to an ethos.
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You know, you have this bad guy, Tex
Richmond, who's going to destroy their
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studio, and so the Muppets all have to
get back together to defeat this common
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enemy. I had a scene at the end of the
movie where all of a sudden Tex Richmond
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unzips himself, and it's Kermit. And
Kermit had orchestrated this whole
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plot to get his friends back together.
He missed his friends.
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And it actually was, like, really cool,
and I think very beautiful, but then
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they said, listen, we can't do this. And
I said, why? They said, because Kermit
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never lies.
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Kermit never tells a lie. It's a rule
that's never broken.
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And so, you know, what can you say to
that?
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I feel like there's water coming out of
holes in my face.
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Yeah, that's what happens. We're
squeezed like a sponge.
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Sure. A little bit. But all that said,
there's no place I'd rather be.
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Jason, let's see if you still feel that
way after sauce number nine.
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Up next.
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A smoked Serrano.
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The Squash Reaper X.
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That's like a terrible basketball
nickname.
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What a poetic segue, by the way.
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Big three by the Squash Reaper.
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Boom.
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You get kind of like so blasted by the
bone.
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Right, that it kind of creates
everything.
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It all becomes the same. Right.
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There's a cumulative effect that we've
had of these wings.
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Total scorched earth. Just a
flamethrower with the bomb. But it does
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make everything a little bit easier
afterwards.
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I find, at least. Yeah, what you got?
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Well, you know, on the topic of
basketball nicknames, I know that you
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Dr. Dunk. I did. I didn't go by Dr.
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Dunk.
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Say hello.
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Hello, my name's Dr. Dunk.
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As Dr. Dunk, you won the East Coast Slam
Dunk Contest in 1997.
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Do you remember the marquee dunk that
helped you win?
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Yes, I pulled a jersey over my head, and
I had one of my teammates spin me
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around three times.
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You could obviously see through the
jersey, but I was like, acting really
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discombobulated.
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Oh, no.
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And then dunked. And so I managed to
figure out where the hoop was, you know.
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But, yeah, and then the next day it
said, like, Dr.
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Dunk is born.
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And people called me Dr.
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Dunk for a couple years.
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They're really weird.
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But this is not a skill that I'm good at
at life either, opening these things.
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How much are you putting on?
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Like, we're doing it. Yeah, that's
textbook right there.
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Is this the worst one, by the way?
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We'll see.
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As you'll find, it'll build over here
over, like, the next 15 to 30 seconds.
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Okay, sir. Let's finish it up. Let's do
it.
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We did great.
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And with that...
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We've reached the summit of Spice
Mountain.
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And, you know, if there's a through line
in this interview, it's that as your
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Hollywood career continues, you're
always evolving, you know, from
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comedies to intimate indies to prestige
television to multicam sitcoms and even
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a Muppets movie. To close things out,
I'm curious, which of those projects or
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environments made you most nervous as an
actor and which one felt most
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immediately like home? Oh, what a great
question.
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You know where I felt really at home?
Forgetting Sarah Marshall.
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Forgetting Sarah Marshall, I really had
the naivety of youth.
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That's the best. It really is. I was
like a kid when I wrote it. I was like
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25 when I wrote it.
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So people often ask, like, what would
you go back and tell your younger self?
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I actually play the opposite game, and I
try to remember, like, younger Jason
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who wasn't afraid of anything.
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Like, remind me to be that dude. Like,
let your freak flag fly.
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Felt very at home there.
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I was actually...
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I was nervous coming here. I don't know
if this counts as me. It counts.
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Yeah, yeah.
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This is probably the most nervous I've
been in a while because I didn't know
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what my body was going to do. But it
turns out I'm great at this.
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Let your freak flag fly and look at you,
Jason Stegall, taking on the wings of
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death, living to tell the tale. Now
there's nothing left to do but roll out
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red carpet for you.
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This camera, this camera, this camera.
Let the people know what you have going
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on in your life.
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Cool. My name's Jason Siegel, and I've
just completed the Hot Wins gauntlet,
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my TV show Shrinking premieres now,
nowish, on Apple TV with a bunch of
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amazing actors, and I'm getting married
this year, which is the most important
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thing I've ever done.
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Okay, thanks.
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We did it.
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That was great.
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Had a great time. That's what I like to
hear.
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Thanks so much. You did great.
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Thank you. Bodied that.
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So did you.
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I was just trying to keep pace, to be
honest with you. I mean, it's hot for
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sure. Yeah.
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Cool.
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