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You produced a pornographic movie? Yes.
When? You were shooting when?
February. The middle of February.
Holly both directed and starred in it. Really? Yes, it's something I've wanted
to do for quite a long time. Holly and I are engaged.
Oh, congratulations.
Thank you. This couldn't have come at a worse time.
How did the DA find out about this movie?
Someone from the lab that processed the film told them. Is there anything in
there that's particularly shocking or illegal?
Absolutely not.
No children, nobody dies? No, Mr. Becker, there are no children and nobody
Arnie. I'm sorry, I have to ask you. You know, at the completion of principal
photography, my boom man said to me...
That if Billy Wilder ever got into porn, this was the movie that he would make.
That is so true, too.
What exactly are you being charged with? I'm being charged with pandering for
the purposes of prostitution.
For some reason, that woman DA wants to make an example of me.
You know I'm not a criminal lawyer, Yale. But I know you, and I trust you.
I don't want to tell my life story to some stranger.
Never hid your interest in pornography before.
Only within the confines of this office.
Or when he's with me. The truth is, I'm very guarded about it otherwise.
I have recurring nightmares in which I'm standing on line somewhere, a train
station, an airport.
My attaché case inexplicably comes open.
A pornographic magazine falls out.
Usually it's the little Danish pocket pals.
Everybody... stops what they're doing.
Everybody sees.
Everybody knows.
Trials are public, Yale.
Then we can't let it go to trial.
My parents cannot know that I have done this.
They can never know about my interest in pornography.
Do they know that you're engaged?
Of course they do. Well, what do they think Holly does for a living?
They think that she's a buyer for Bonwood Tellers. And there's no reason
they can't go on thinking.
Okay. I'll see what I can do.
We also want the film back. Oh, yes.
You don't have a copy?
No. The D .A. has the only copy. It was confiscated from the lab. And neither
Yale nor I have ever seen the film.
And we want to.
Yes, we do.
We want to see it.
Very badly.
Hey, Stuart, you got a minute?
Hi, Joyce.
Do you have a minute?
Sure. No, come in.
I was wondering if one of your partners had changed their mind about
representing me.
No.
Is it strictly a matter of money?
No, not at all.
What is it, then?
Well, we're a small firm, and our resources are limited. Our litigators
surfeited with work.
You know the case. Why don't you represent me?
I do your taxes, Julius.
I'm not a trial lawyer.
Yeah,
trial starts this afternoon.
Yeah, I know.
Well, wish me luck.
Good luck.
Okay, people, let's get started. Hardy versus Hardy.
That's mine. We're representing the wife. Depositions are getting started
What are you doing handling a divorce?
I asked her to handle it. I'm underwater.
Matrimonial law is not Anfield.
Actually, Leland, my first job was with a firm that did exclusively matrimonial
law. I have a fair amount of experience in it. That notwithstanding, in the
future, I want all realignment or reallocation of firm resources to be
the knowledge and consent of either Douglas or myself.
Okay. Pierce versus Watson.
Pierce versus Watson. Whose is it?
Technically, it's not anybody's. I'd just like to discuss it.
Is this the guy with the newsletter?
Yes, it is.
He's being sued for libel by an esteemed nuclear physicist. I think he has a
case. Stewart.
What? He's not a paying client, Stewart. We have taken pro bono cases before.
All the more reason not to take on this one. From everything you've told me,
this guy wants to go to trial just to prove a point.
Assume that he does.
Does that rule out our representing him? We have a finite number of trial
lawyers at this firm, Stewart.
Currently, none of them are available.
I may be available towards the end of the week.
I'm available now.
Maybe I can second chair.
If the decision has been made not to represent this gentleman, I just assume
left it at that. People versus Tobias.
Yale Tobias produced a pornographic movie. He finds himself being prosecuted
pandering. I thought the courts ruled that prostitution laws couldn't be used
prosecute pornographers.
Yeah, they're distinguishing this case based on the theory that Yale Tobias
the movie for his own sexual gratification, that he was, in fact, the
rather than the producer.
That's a bit of a stretch, no?
It's a huge stretch. On the other hand, Yale is an otherwise reputable
businessman who lets his obsession with all things pornographic get him involved
in less than respectable enterprises.
It's my guess that this caught the attention of some hell -bent -for
feminist in the DA's office.
I assume this raises serious free speech issues in your mind, Arnie. Yes, it
does, Jane.
Point of information.
Why doesn't the same concern extend to my client? Because your client has no
monies to it.
Asked and answered.
Fortune comes a -calling, calliope woman, spinning that curious
fence of your own.
Can you answer?
Yes, I can.
But what would be the answer to the answer man? Gentlemen, sorry for the
It's cool.
You'll be deposing Mrs. Hardy today, right?
Right. I think we should get started.
Take it slow, let it grow.
Would you state your name for the record?
Carolyn Hardy.
And you are currently married to Dale Hardy?
Yes, I am. And how long have you been so married?
22 years.
And over the course of those 22 years, you and your husband have accumulated a
great many things.
One of us worked.
There's a house, two vehicles, several bank accounts.
And whose name are all of these things?
They're in both of our names.
Yet you saw fit to lock your husband out of the house, did you not? He was using
our house as a crash pad for other Grateful Dead fanatics.
I asked him to stop on numerous occasions.
He refused. I changed the locks.
And you're asking that most of these personal possessions that you've
accumulated, including the Grateful Dead memorabilia collection, be sold?
Right again.
This despite the fact that your husband remains attached to it? My husband needs
to unattach himself.
Never. Or, in the alternative, find a way to support himself.
When man gathers what another man spills. Bill, did it ever occur to
That not everything that Jerry Garcia ever said was necessarily profound.
Carolyn. And that not every situation in life can be summed up by Grateful Dead
lyrics. Can I ask why the animus toward the dead? Not relevant.
Could it be that you were once a deadhead yourself? Not relevant. She is
being analyzed here, Mr. Ritzig. She's the one who turned me on to the dead.
was into the dead before I was. Yes, and I was 18 years old when I did that.
I'm 41 years old now.
Our kids are grown up and out of the house. And at this point in my life, the
most important thing to me is not the Grateful Dead.
I do not want their posters on my walls.
I do not want their bumper stickers on my car.
What I want is to start over and do my best to try and forget how much of my
life I spent being married to you.
Dr. Pierce, would you tell the court your occupation?
I teach physics at Caltech.
Would you tell the court what you did prior to that?
I taught at Princeton for some year. Before that, I worked for the
And what did you do for the government, sir?
I was a nuclear physicist.
I did research pertaining to nuclear physics.
Were you involved in a particular project in which nuclear devices were
detonated and pilots were engaged to fly through the mushroom cloud at the test
site? Yes, I was. Would you tell us the purpose of this? We were studying the
effects of radiation on human beings.
Were you aware that these pilots were placing themselves at risk?
Yes, I was, and we acted accordingly.
They wore leaded glass hoods. They breathed pure oxygen from self
systems. To the best of our ability, we tried to protect those men.
But some of them got sick. It's a tragedy, for which I'm deeply sorry.
Would you tell us the circumstances, Doctor, under which you first became
of what Julius Watson had written about you.
One of my students is a young man from South Korea, very bright, very new to
this country.
He came to me one day after class. He showed me the article, and he asked me
it could be true.
He was the only one of my students to ask.
What effect, if any, did the publication of this article have on you? The
student newspaper reprinted the article. It was widely circulated among both the
students and the faculty.
The result is that I've become something of a pariah.
Because I have tenure, I can't be fired. It's clear to me, however, that
everyone wishes that I would go away.
I have nothing further.
Mr. Watson.
Did you ever conduct tests into how to poison a city's food supply?
No, I did not.
You never experimented with poisoning a food supply using radioactive strontium?
Objection. Asked and answered.
Sustained. Okay.
I'd like to refer to an interview with an attending physician to Major Revelle.
Objection. Hearsay.
Sustained. What? I can't refer to an interview?
No, you may not, Mr. Watson.
Okay.
Isn't it a fact... I know that's how you're supposed to start the question.
Isn't it a fact that you were told by a number of military personnel that the
pilots felt as though they were being lied to?
Objection. Hearsay.
Sustained. What do I have to do to get a point across here, Judge?
What you have to do, Mr. Watson, is adhere to the rules of evidence.
You'll have to forgive me. I'm not altogether conversant with the rules of
evidence. Then maybe you shouldn't be representing yourself.
I'm sorry, Your Honor. I used to have money for lawyers. I don't anymore.
I can't help that, sir. Your Honor, excuse me. Yes, what?
My name is Stuart Markowitz. I'm with the firm of Mackenzie Brackman. May I
approach the bench?
Yes, you may, sir.
I represent Mr. Watson in other matters. With his consent, I'd like to ask you
for a day's continuance so that I can represent him in this matter. Mr.
Absolutely, I consent.
This court's adjourned.
We'll reconvene tomorrow morning at 10 a .m.
My father was a fighter pilot in World War II in Korea.
He retired in 1965 as a major.
After the Korean War, what was his assignment?
He was a test pilot.
And what was he testing between the years 1952 and 1954?
Well, I was a little girl at the time, so no one actually told me.
But I knew that whatever he was doing was important.
And I knew that it was secret.
Men would come to the house and take blood samples and specimens, and my dad
would make us go outside.
When you got older, did he tell you what he was doing during this period?
Objection, hearsay. Your Honor, I think she should be able to tell us what her
father was doing.
The objection's overruled. I'll allow it.
Whenever they tested bombs, he was one of the pilots that flew through the
clouds. How would you describe his health after he retired?
There were strange things at first. His ear swelled for no apparent reason.
Then he couldn't move his legs.
Then his thyroid had to be removed, and then his colon. He suffered in pain for
five or six years.
And then he died.
Have you ever seen Dr.
Pierce before today?
I saw him the day my father was buried.
And what, if anything, did he say to you on that day? Objection, hearsay. I'll
allow it.
He said he was sorry.
He said that there were certain things that my father couldn't be told.
Objection, hearsay.
Sustained and stricken.
I have nothing further.
Did you ever hear your father blame Dr. Pierce for what happened to him?
No. Did you ever hear him blame anyone?
My father was a patriotic man, Mr. Sumner. He believed that what he was
was his patriotic duty.
He would never have blamed anyone for what happened to him. Your father was
a soldier, was he not, ma 'am? Yes, he was.
A very brave, highly decorated soldier.
Is it possible that he accepted the risks attendant to the radiation tests
the same way that he accepted the risks attendant to the many bombing missions
he flew?
He was never told what the risks were. Do you think he needed to be told?
Objection speculative.
Sustained. No further questions.
No, but my father wasn't supposed to be a guinea pig.
He wasn't supposed to be sent up into those clouds so that this man could
him while he wasted away.
His country owed him better than that.
What do you do for a living, Mr. Hardy?
I do a variety of things.
Like what?
Merchandising, for the most part.
What do you merchandise?
I run a clearinghouse for Grateful Dead concert tapes.
I also go to the concerts where I sell frisbees and beach balls, dog bandanas.
It's what I do.
How much does what you do produce in income?
All together or annually?
Annually.
About $12 ,000.
Plus this year I traded some concert tapes for a 1961 Volvo station wagon.
Mr. Hardy, you've made a practice, have you not, of following the Grateful Dead
from city to city in order to attend their concerts?
Yes, I have made it a practice.
You traveled to Egypt for a Grateful Dead concert.
Yes, I did.
I still can't get over that you went and I didn't. Oh, man, Dark Star in front
of the pyramids. Unbelievable.
Oh, man, all other versions just paled in comparison. Including the 69 Fillmore
West concerts. Oh, including everything.
Could we keep going with this, please?
Would you acknowledge, sir, that it was your wife who provided the funds for the
purchase of your home?
What difference does it make who provided the funds? If it was acquired
course of the marriage, it's marital property. It's irrelevant to the
disposition of assets.
It's in no way relevant to the disposition of assets.
I'm instructing my client not to answer.
Would you acknowledge that it was your wife who provided the funds for you to
to Egypt as well as for a six -week stopover in Kathmandu? I'm going to
to that, too. I thought it wasn't supposed to matter who paid for what.
talk to me, Mr. Hardy. You just answer me yes or no.
Was I a good father to our kids?
That is not the issue, Mr. Hardy, and you are not the one asking the
Answer me. Was I or wasn't I?
You don't need to consult with your attorney for an answer to that, do you?
you were. You were a good father.
Well, then what the hell are we sitting here arguing about money for?
Because we find your demands regarding money to be unreasonable.
I'm not a burnout, Carolyn.
I'm not some kind of hustler, either. Mr. Hardy, I am not done with the
deposition. Well, I am.
I'm done with it. I'm not going to sit here like some kind of a criminal. I
didn't do anything wrong.
I like the Grateful Dead.
I like their music.
People all over the world like their music. There was Grateful Dead lyrics
-painted on the Berlin Wall, man. So what?
So what?
So maybe they're not just another rock and roll band.
Maybe they're on to something.
Maybe there's more to being a deadhead than just the music.
Maybe it's a little heavier than that.
As you know, I'm involved in a community outreach program that helps homeless
and developmentally disabled deadheads. We offer food and emergency counseling,
and we go and check on them and see if they're still alive. Mr. Pritzk, if your
client refuses to finish this deposition, I will go into court and I
for thank you. Well, the last time I looked, I was still a free United States
citizen. And that means that right now, I'm walking out that door.
Alan?
All right.
You wrote the article in which Dr. Pierce is characterized as Dr. Death. Is
right? Right.
What was the basis for that?
Well, the basis was radiation experiments. The good doctor conducted
unwitting human beings, said experiments resulting in their death.
What evidence do you have that said experiments did anything of the kind?
United States government mortality and morbidity reports, Counselor.
Significantly elevated incidence of cancer in subjects of the doctor's
experiments. Are you trained as a scientist, Mr. Watson?
No, I'm not. Did you consult anyone who was?
Prior to writing this article?
Yes, I did. Can you provide me with their names and credentials?
No, I cannot.
Why can you not?
Because they requested that their names not be used.
Do you employ a fact checker at your magazine, sir?
Yeah, me.
An editor?
Also me.
Is it fair to say, then, that you can write and publish pretty much whatever
want? It's the only true compensation for being an ongoing source of
disappointment to my parents.
I'll take that as a yes.
Have you ever been sued for libel before, sir?
Objection irrelevant and prejudicial. Goes to pattern, Your Honor.
I'll allow it.
Mr. Watson?
I've been sued for libel before.
How many times?
Actually sued three times.
Of those, two I won, settled out of court on one. Isn't it a fact that each
every time you were sued, it resulted in more publicity for both you and your
publication?
than you otherwise ever received.
I wrote what I wrote because this man acting with the government's blessing
support victimized and ultimately murdered innocent people.
When reports of his tests came out in the mainstream press, it was a one -day
news story. I picked up the ball. I ran with it. Did the mainstream press
attribute to the experiments of Dr. Aaron Pierce either the victimization or
murder of a single person? No, they didn't. Did they ever refer to him as
Death? Of course not. They're the mainstream press. They're respectable
polite and mainstream.
I'm none of those things.
See, I'm the guy who sits in the back of the class shooting spitballs.
I also happen to be the guy who's telling the truth.
So you say.
Your Honor, I have no further questions, Your Honor.
Belinda Fox?
That's me.
Hi.
I'd like to talk to you about the Tobias case.
Who are you?
Arnold Becker.
I'm Yale Tobias' attorney.
Sit down.
As a rule, I don't get involved in criminal cases, so you'll have to
if I'm not up to date. However, from my readings of past appellate court
decisions, you don't have a case.
You'll understand, Mr. Becker, if I don't send my ship to war based on your
reading of past appellate court decisions.
I'm given a certain amount of discretion here. Sometimes that allows me to get
creative. And who do you think this guy is that you're going after?
I think he's a rich businessman who decided to get into porno.
I want to demonstrate to him that there might be unforeseen consequences in
that. I want to demonstrate it not just to him.
Why go after someone this small? This guy's nothing. I've seen his tax
dearest. He's not nothing.
You've looked at his tax returns.
Are you aghast?
Have you ever met this guy?
No, I haven't.
Would you permit me to bring him in here so that you could meet him?
Sure.
Thank you.
I'll schedule an appointment.
How do you want it?
Excuse me?
The door.
Open or closed?
Open.
Got it.
What? Department of Energy file I requested under the Freedom of
Act. I didn't know you had done that. I only have two requests a month, Stuart.
What for? Anything and everything.
FBI surveillance records, Air Force data on extraterrestrials, CIA logs
regarding various assassinations. I ask for it all.
Once in a while, I actually get lucky.
Come cubby?
No, thanks.
Let's get to work.
Your Honor, I believe I'm entitled to recall Dr. Pierce to the stand for
purposes of cross -examination. Dr. Pierce has already been cross -examined.
Such cross -examination as occurred was conducted by my client, appearing pro
se. That was his decision, Mr. Markowitz.
You don't get a second bite at the apple because you hire a lawyer.
Additionally, Your Honor, we have only recently come into the possession of
certain new evidence.
Proceed, Mr. Markowitz.
On March 1st, 1954, a 15 -megaton nuclear device was tested on the Bikini
Are you familiar with that test, Doctor? Yes, I am. And are you aware of the
fact that radioactive fallout blew over to the islands of Rongelap and Utyrik?
That was unforeseen. And are you aware of the fact that Rongelap and Utyrik are
inhabited? As I said, that was unforeseen.
Did you get the consent of the people who inhabited those islands? Your Honor,
counsel is goading this witness. Dr. Pierce has stated twice that the result
unforeseen. Clearly, no consent would have been obtained.
Move on, Mr. Markowitz.
Are you familiar with the Tenzer School for Boys, Doctor?
No, I'm not. Are you aware of a study that administered radioactive isotopes
antimony to the students of this school?
Well, there are a great many such tests, Mr. Markowitz. That particular one
doesn't ring a bell.
Is it your contention that consent was obtained from all the participants in
these studies?
Oh, yes.
Informed consent?
Yes, Mr. Markowitz, informed consent.
Would it surprise you to learn that the students at the Tenzer School for Boys
were mentally retarded? Your Honor, I object to this whole line of
Overruled. Would it shock you to learn that the participants in this experiment
were told that they were joining a science club to segregate them from the
of the school?
And that the radioactive isotopes were introduced into their milk during mid
-morning snack?
First of all, I didn't do that. Second of all, we didn't have any idea what the
effects of radiation were at that time. I ask that this Department of Energy
study be introduced into evidence, Your Honor, as Defense Exhibit A.
So ordered.
Doctor.
Is this your name?
This is totally misleading.
Is this your name, Doctor?
Yes. According to this study, you and a panel of scientists analyzed the data
from the Tenzer School.
So I'm going to ask you one more time, Doctor.
Did you or did you not know that human subjects were being used who were
incapable of giving informed consent?
You and your client are so sure of your moral superiority.
You take your freedom and your comfort for granted. The world was at war when
this was going on.
We were locked in mortal combat, first against Germany and Japan, then against
the Soviet Union.
We feared being dominated by them. Now, the fact that we no longer fear them
isn't an accident. It didn't just happen.
Myself and men like me spent our lives developing the military strength that
would prevent our enemies from defeating and dominating us.
We tested potential military use of nerve gas.
We tested the potential military use of LSD. We also tested the potential
military use of radiological poison.
See, we didn't have the luxury of forswearing the use of any weapon,
particularly those that our enemies were developing to use against us.
Your freedom and your comfort were provided to you by us, by what we did.
You still haven't given me an answer, Doctor.
I knew everything.
I have no further questions.
Excuse me.
In the interest of bringing this to a close, my client is prepared to make
certain concessions.
Like what?
We agree to let Dale have the house.
One car and 50 % of all money is held in their joint account.
Scary movies, man. We may be able to settle this.
I don't want the house.
What do you mean?
I mean I don't want the house.
She paid for it. It's hers.
Dale, I'm willing to let you have it. What's the problem?
I don't want to be the object of charity, man.
Correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Hardy, but up until today, weren't you in here
asking for the house?
I changed my mind.
Why? Because I don't want to give you the satisfaction of being able to say to
all your friends or their suits and ties that your deadhead ex -husband got the
house. Oh, and that's why I'm doing it, right, Dale? To talk about it.
Carolyn, you don't have to force him to give you the house.
I should just leave it empty and see how long it takes him to move back in. Hey,
I don't want to go back there anymore, and you do. I'm never going back.
Oh, never say never, Dale. You may need a dry place to sleep one night.
You know, I remember being at Watkins Glen.
And the Grateful Dead are up on the stage.
And you and me were right down there in the front.
And Mickey Hart and Bill Kreutzman go into their dual drum solos.
And the boys go into Not Fade Away, into St. Stephen, into The Eleven,
and into Turn On Your Love Light.
And I look over at you.
You got on this crocheted top.
Pink sunglasses.
And I just think to myself, in this whole universe, everything is right
should be.
And I look at you now, sitting here with your lawyer, and I wonder how the hell
I ever could have felt that way.
Just make sure you get all my tapes back from her.
I'll find anything you agree to.
You can arrange something with him?
Yes.
Okay, just let me know what it is.
A small present before we start negotiating?
Sure.
Working man's dead, live dead, oxymoxy.
What are these for?
Consider it a gift.
Ah.
Well.
The only reason that Yale produced this film is that his fiancée got it into her
head that she wanted to direct.
You're not exactly a stranger to the world of pornography, though, are you,
Tobias? As a collector, and solely as a collector, I do not as a rule produce
films. The truth is that between magazines and films, I greatly prefer
magazines. Is that right?
Magazines. And playing cards.
She doesn't have to know all that, Yale. Miss Fox, if there is any way at all...
that we can avoid this becoming public, I would do anything you ask.
I don't know that there is.
I will plead guilty.
I... I will pay any amount of money. I will do community work.
Miss Fox, I have living parents.
In the event that that doesn't strike a sympathetic chord, let me factor into
the equation that the prints of this film were obtained from a lab technician
believe acted only after being coerced by you or those acting on your behalf.
i think that constitutes an illegal search and seizure do you yes i do i
you're all wet that notwithstanding it's possible i was mistaken about you mr
tobias Now, if all this represents is a one -time venture on your part, I think
I'd probably be ill -advised in committing the resources of this office
prosecution. Plead guilty to lewd and lascivious behavior, pay a fine, and
let it go at that. Fine. No way. Arnie. I'll have the whole thing thrown out of
court. I don't want to go to court, Arnie. I'll have you brought up and
Don't threaten me. Arnie, Arnie, Arnie.
Make it disorderly conduct and his records expunged in six months. Deal.
Please.
Deal. Thank God.
I'll have the papers drawn up by the end of the day.
What time should I come by for it? I'll be ready to leave work around 7 .30. Why
don't you come around then?
I'll do that.
Excuse me, Caroline.
Ann called to say she'd be running a little late.
Okay. Sit to read over all the papers.
I read them.
And sign all three copies.
It's a lousy thing, isn't it?
Yeah. Can I get you anything? Tea, coffee, anything?
No.
I've been with this guy since I was 18.
That's a long time.
I had my mind made up that when the kids were out of the house, that was it.
When Dylan started his freshman year of college, I served him the papers.
Had you been thinking about it a long time?
On and off for years.
Well, maybe this is good. I mean, you did it, and now it's done.
I don't want it to be done.
I went through a lot with that idiot. This is hard.
I know it's hard.
I had an idiot like that once myself.
You were with somebody for a long time?
Yeah, from I was 16 until I was 22.
We weren't married, but it was like we were married.
It was worse than being married.
Why did the two of you break up?
You know, we went our separate ways.
I mean, to him, the idea of going beyond heaven you are on 86th Street was like
going to another planet.
Do you miss him?
Yeah, I miss him.
Look, do you think that Ann will be mad at me if I take these overnight to think
about things before I sign?
You're the client. You sign when you're ready to sign.
Talk to death.
A man devotes his whole life to science, works in the service of his government,
conducts tests and experiments that were both approved by the President of the
United States and performed as part of a stated policy of the United States
government.
Years later, he finds himself vilified. He finds his work viewed out of context
and utterly distorted.
He's no longer a scientist.
He's a killer. He's Dr. Death.
Julius Watson, he puts out a little newsletter in which he expresses his
about a variety of things.
He's entitled to his views.
He's entitled to muckrake, to criticize, and to pontificate to his heart's
content. What he is not entitled to do is drag a man out of the quiet life that
he is living so that he can lie about him.
Make no mistake, ladies and gentlemen, lie is exactly what Julius Watson did.
When he wrote that this man personally exposed people without their knowledge
and consent to lethal amounts of radiation, he was lying.
And you don't get to do that.
It's not called freedom of the press. It's called libel.
Julius Watson is guilty of it. We ask you.
to judge him guilty of it.
And we ask that you award Aaron Pierce the sum of one half million dollars.
There can be no question that there were radiation tests done in the 1950s that
resulted in people dying.
There can be no question that many of those people had this done to them
their knowledge or their approval now Did the plaintiff?
Personally administer these tests it scarcely matters he knew about them he
utilized data drawn from studies of Retarded boys who were tricked into
being laboratory animals on what possible?
Basis can you contend that the term doctor death was liable? It's not liable
ladies and gentlemen.
It's the truth Julius Watson was telling the truth and In our country
we don't punish people for that
Somewhere with a view?
Is this a ritual of yours?
What?
Taking women parking in the Bentley on the top of Mulholland. You're the first.
You're lying.
I'm not what?
Truth is, I don't want to be the first.
No?
No.
I want to be the last.
You know, I've noticed you someplace before.
Yeah, when was that?
It might have been in the courthouse.
Might have been at some bar so they can dinner for some soon -to -be -appointed
federal judge.
Wherever and whenever it was, I know I might have noticed you.
What did you think when you noticed me?
I probably thought of doing it.
Oh,
who are those?
for they're all for me doll who sent you roses a very attractive woman sent me
roses oh really and i say attractive not owing exclusively to her physical
beauty either she's also attractive because she takes the initiative is that
what you call it the initiative she's coming after me that's the point she's
making me the object of desire she's sending me 150 dollars worth of roses
off one date what does that tell you about me that you date very disturbed
okay
Has the jury reached a verdict?
We have, Your Honor.
We find in favor of the defendant, Julius Watson.
Jury is dismissed for the thanks of the court.
We stand adjourned.
What's with the suit?
Dressed for a funeral.
Don't let's get morbid, shall we?
And the mustache?
You told me about a thousand times to shave it off.
Think of it as a kind of a going -away present.
Since you're not moving back, I went ahead and brought some stuff that I
you might want back the most.
You may want to inventory the contents.
Why don't we just get the agreement signed first?
Oh, no. Go ahead.
Inventory the contents.
Um, I don't see anything pre -1970.
Oh, yeah. No, wait. I got it. Those are all the A -shelf tapes. I didn't bring
everything.
Is there a 1968 Matrix concert there with Paul Butterfield? I don't know,
I didn't go through them. I just don't see it. Well, I'm not holding out on you
if that's what you're thinking.
Avalon Ballroom, 1967.
Winterland Strike Benefit, 1968.
Clark University, 1969.
Man, I got to get those. Why don't you finish the inventory, Mr. Hardy? Hey,
counselor, man, this is my life in this box.
It might take me a little while to go through it.
I'll do it.
This is not your life, Dale.
This is a box of stuff.
These are your tapes. These are your overalls. This is your lucky hat.
Here's your ticket sub -collection.
This is the crocheted top I wore that impressed you so much. These are the
sunglasses. You kept that stuff all this time?
Now you want to get rid of it? She's offering you the items, Mr. Hardy. Do
want them or not?
I want her to keep what's hers.
Fine. I'll keep what's mine.
Excuse me. I'm going to go to the ladies.
Do you have sparkling water of any kind?
I'll get you one. No, it's cool. I can get it.
Kitchen's right there.
Have you listened to those CDs yet?
No. Is
there any
sparkling water of any kind?
Right here.
Can I get you a glass?
Not necessary.
You're Dale, right?
Right.
We took a little break.
My wife's upset.
Yeah, I talked to your wife yesterday.
I know she's upset.
Why was she upset yesterday?
Pretty much for the same reason she is today.
Thanks for the drink.
You changed.
So what does this mean?
It means I don't feel like signing these papers today.
I may feel like signing them tomorrow, but I definitely don't feel like signing
them today.
Then you shouldn't.
Since the first time I stepped onto a porno set in all the films that I was an
actress, either as an ingenue, secretary, schoolteacher, housewife, I
knew I wanted to direct.
And it took Yale for me to make that happen.
How exactly did you two meet?
Holly was doing a personal appearance at an adult video trade show.
I stammered out in appreciation of her work.
And then it was a matter of a weekend. We were unflinchingly, unreasonably in
love.
Here's to trade shows.
Here's to you.
Yeah, really.
I don't know if you're interested in referrals or not, Mr. Becker, but there
lots of people in the porno business that are looking for a good lawyer, and
talking about people who could pay.
Also, we, Holly and I, may have some upcoming ventures to talk to you about.
I mean, between CD -ROM and software delivery systems utilizing telephone
there is a whole world of opportunity in hardcore pornography.
How long do you think it'll be before the DA returns the film?
That may take a while.
Having made a major concession in dropping the pandering charge, DA's
probably going to drag their feet in returning the evidence.
There are images in this film that I worked very hard to achieve. She really
did. I mean, this isn't just me getting pawed, tearing my clothes off on my
knees, on my back, money shot and out. No. This film has wit.
It has irony.
If I may interrupt, what's really wonderful about it is that none of it
the expense...
of an almost overpowering display of sexual carnage.
I could go on for days, but I won't. I'll stop when I know.
Got it.
Gail? Oh, no, please.
You've given me so much pleasure over the years. I couldn't take any money
you. Oh, that's very sweet.
Thank you.
Honey,
could you hold these for me, please?
Thanks.
Bye, Arnie.
What are you doing here? Get in and I'll tell you.
Love your car.
Thank you.
What are you doing here? I had a date tonight.
A date with a man whom I like, whom I admire, but not in whom, at this moment,
I'm particularly interested.
The entire time that I was here with him, I had my eyes on you.
I suggest we drive up to my house and put Holly's phone on the VCR.
Stephen with the rose In and out of the garden he goes Country garden in the
wind And the rain wherever he goes The people all complain Grateful dead.
Turn down.
Sure.
Now you're listening to the Grateful Dead?
My adversary in the Hardy case gave me some of their albums.
Truth is, though, I used to listen to them a lot.
Oh, I forgot. You did have your communal years.
Unlike you.
Not me.
I make no claims to having participated in anything.
Congratulations on the trial, by the way.
Yeah, it was less than wholly gratifying.
Why was that?
We beat this guy who did all these terrible things in the 50s, right?
Well, if this were the 50s, I might think he was right.
Then you'd both be wrong.
You were never wrong, were you?
Yeah, plenty of times.
Yeah? You mean among the macrobiotic diets and the doctrinaire Marxism and
sexual promiscuity and the Grateful Dead, you actually made a mistake
Yes, absolutely.
Good.
I'm going to go take a bath.
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