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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,330 --> 00:00:03,190 Previously on L .A. Law. Hello. 2 00:00:03,610 --> 00:00:05,450 Ah, you're... Jane Halliday. 3 00:00:06,090 --> 00:00:10,450 I'm Douglas Brackman. This is Ann Kelsey, Jonathan Rollins, and Arnold 4 00:00:11,830 --> 00:00:13,230 You've been charged with a murder. 5 00:00:14,130 --> 00:00:17,170 That means you need to have someone paying very close attention to what 6 00:00:17,170 --> 00:00:18,170 to you. 7 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,500 Last night I was at this restaurant, and the husband of the woman who your 8 00:00:21,500 --> 00:00:23,220 client was charged with killing was there. 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,560 Yeah? He was with this hot tomato, and they were all over each other. They were 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,860 drinking, grabbing, kissing. I mean, it was like nauseating already. 11 00:00:32,259 --> 00:00:33,260 Huh. 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:39,980 Do you mind that I'm here? 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,320 Well, you've got to be here, right? 14 00:00:42,620 --> 00:00:43,620 Sort of. 15 00:00:50,090 --> 00:00:51,650 How often have you been seeing Gail? 16 00:00:53,050 --> 00:00:54,050 Once or twice a week. 17 00:00:54,310 --> 00:00:55,610 So on the day she was killed? 18 00:00:56,030 --> 00:00:58,330 Yeah. And you had a fight with her of any kind? 19 00:01:00,270 --> 00:01:01,270 From New York? 20 00:01:01,970 --> 00:01:04,670 Yeah. There's a lot of crazy people in New York. 21 00:01:05,230 --> 00:01:07,690 It's like they're all talking at the same time. 22 00:01:09,190 --> 00:01:10,190 Or arguing. 23 00:01:10,390 --> 00:01:11,710 Or crying. 24 00:01:12,030 --> 00:01:13,030 Or praying. 25 00:01:13,070 --> 00:01:15,550 Sandy. The seat opens up on the subway, so I sit down. 26 00:01:16,460 --> 00:01:21,400 And the lady next to me, standing, starts crying because she wanted to sit 27 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,280 Sandy, I need your help. 28 00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:26,440 I need you to stop thinking about crazy people in New York and start thinking 29 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:27,800 about the crime you've been charged with. 30 00:01:28,100 --> 00:01:29,100 Oh, I hate these patterns. 31 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,200 What patterns? 32 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:34,300 Patterns on the floor. 33 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:35,780 The linoleum. 34 00:01:36,300 --> 00:01:40,420 Keep dividing and subdividing. There's lines in the quadrants and hemispheres, 35 00:01:40,420 --> 00:01:43,740 and it's not that restful to have to look at that. I prefer to have plain 36 00:01:43,740 --> 00:01:44,740 floors. 37 00:01:45,860 --> 00:01:46,860 Plain walls. 38 00:01:47,180 --> 00:01:50,100 Although these walls are pretty plain, but there's too much going on with those 39 00:01:50,100 --> 00:01:52,340 floors. Did you kill anybody, Sandy? 40 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,160 What the hell would you do if I said I did? I'd be your lawyer. The same thing 41 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:57,300 I'd do if you said you didn't. 42 00:01:57,780 --> 00:01:58,759 What's the difference? 43 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,400 It might affect the way I try the case. 44 00:02:00,620 --> 00:02:01,620 Yeah, but it shouldn't, though. 45 00:02:01,940 --> 00:02:03,980 You should try and get me off no matter what, right? 46 00:02:04,300 --> 00:02:05,660 If that's what you want. 47 00:02:07,100 --> 00:02:08,100 That's what I want. 48 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,920 Let me begin this morning by welcoming our newest associate, Miss Jane 49 00:04:13,100 --> 00:04:13,759 You're here. 50 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,920 Welcome. How do you do? Hi. Hi. 51 00:04:16,220 --> 00:04:20,760 I appreciate you giving me the opportunity to work with you. I do hope 52 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:21,760 of some service. 53 00:04:22,220 --> 00:04:27,540 Also, I would like to thank everyone in advance for all of the help I'm sure I 54 00:04:27,540 --> 00:04:29,920 will be asking for. Ask and it shall be given you. 55 00:04:30,260 --> 00:04:31,320 Seek and you shall find. 56 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,720 Knock and it shall be opened unto you. 57 00:04:35,140 --> 00:04:36,140 Matthew 7. 58 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,880 Well, I don't know the appropriate biblical passage for new business, but 59 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,880 whatever it is, this young lady is responsible for bringing some with her. 60 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,960 Carrie versus the Department of Veteran Affairs. Miss Halliday. David Carrie is 61 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,200 a veteran of the Gulf War. 62 00:04:48,500 --> 00:04:51,540 Like hundreds of others, he's come down with a debilitating illness. 63 00:04:52,030 --> 00:04:55,730 as a result of exposure to chemicals in Kuwait. I heard about that. They have 64 00:04:55,730 --> 00:04:59,650 all kinds of strange symptoms, like hair loss, immune system problems. 65 00:04:59,950 --> 00:05:03,810 Well, until recently, VA doctors routinely dismissed this condition as 66 00:05:03,810 --> 00:05:07,350 psychosomatic. How did you come to represent him? He's a member of my 67 00:05:07,690 --> 00:05:12,090 Great. Religious organizations, I believe, are a terrific and largely 68 00:05:12,090 --> 00:05:13,090 source of referrals. 69 00:05:13,230 --> 00:05:15,590 Would that more of us were trolling in those waters. 70 00:05:15,870 --> 00:05:18,790 Next up, Bannister versus the American Buying Network. 71 00:05:19,050 --> 00:05:21,330 That's mine. We represent the Buying Network. 72 00:05:21,790 --> 00:05:26,250 The plaintiff is a guy who's suing them for selling to his wife. He claims she's 73 00:05:26,250 --> 00:05:29,830 got an obsessive -compulsive shopping disorder that they took undue advantage 74 00:05:29,830 --> 00:05:30,830 of. You're kidding. 75 00:05:30,870 --> 00:05:33,350 Yet another theory for avoiding personal responsibility. 76 00:05:33,710 --> 00:05:37,630 Those channels do play to people's compulsions. Oh, come on, she's weak. 77 00:05:37,630 --> 00:05:40,670 extravagant and she's weak. Compulsions like this are a sign of weakness. 78 00:05:41,110 --> 00:05:44,950 That wouldn't apply to your desire to own a $275 ,000 Bentley, would it? 79 00:05:45,450 --> 00:05:48,770 No, it wouldn't. I'm expecting that if we're successful in this matter, then 80 00:05:48,770 --> 00:05:51,610 American Buying Network may tap us for a variety of other services. 81 00:05:51,910 --> 00:05:53,170 Eli, what's happening with your case? 82 00:05:54,150 --> 00:05:58,190 I'm preparing for trial, interviewing witnesses, going over police reports, 83 00:05:58,190 --> 00:06:01,530 kind of thing. I do need to hire a private investigator. If you've used 84 00:06:01,530 --> 00:06:03,110 who you'd recommend... Jinx Baldessari. 85 00:06:03,750 --> 00:06:04,750 You've used her? 86 00:06:05,810 --> 00:06:06,729 Yes, I have. 87 00:06:06,730 --> 00:06:07,730 Look out, look out! 88 00:06:08,830 --> 00:06:12,690 How much is this one going to cost us, Douglas? 89 00:06:12,950 --> 00:06:13,799 Not a dime. 90 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,380 Are you sure? First of all, the contract is primarily liable. Second of all, 91 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,280 those stilts are illegal in the state of California. 92 00:06:19,700 --> 00:06:22,840 Assumption of risk, comparative negligence, we've got nothing to worry 93 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,440 How many do you see, Dave? 94 00:06:32,100 --> 00:06:36,020 Mr. Bannister, how long has your wife been shopping with the American Buying 95 00:06:36,020 --> 00:06:38,040 Network? Since March of 1992. 96 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,020 What kinds of items did she purchase? 97 00:06:41,450 --> 00:06:47,030 Clothes, power tools, kitchen appliances, a radio transmitter dog 98 00:06:47,030 --> 00:06:48,030 mind that we don't have a dog. 99 00:06:48,610 --> 00:06:51,590 Stuffed animals and dolls. Never mind that we don't have any children. 100 00:06:51,910 --> 00:06:55,990 The stuffed animals and dolls are collectibles. Ms. Bannister, please. The 101 00:06:55,990 --> 00:06:59,010 ceramic ducks wearing galoshes are also collectibles? 102 00:06:59,230 --> 00:07:00,230 Yes, they are. 103 00:07:00,410 --> 00:07:04,990 Folks, for the purposes of this trial, you two are on the same side. I don't 104 00:07:04,990 --> 00:07:05,990 want to hear any arguing. 105 00:07:06,230 --> 00:07:07,230 I'm sorry, Your Honor. 106 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,600 Mr. Bannister, is your wife currently under treatment for any kind of mental 107 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,240 disorder? She's under treatment for obsessive -compulsive shopping. 108 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,120 Did you inform the American Buying Network of that fact? 109 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:20,420 By registered mail. 110 00:07:20,700 --> 00:07:21,700 How did they respond? 111 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:26,100 They responded by continuing to sell her anything and everything she wanted. Mr. 112 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,840 Bannister, what has been the result? 113 00:07:28,100 --> 00:07:30,220 The result has been that I'm facing bankruptcy. 114 00:07:30,700 --> 00:07:32,060 I have no further questions. 115 00:07:33,300 --> 00:07:37,580 Mr. Bannister, let's talk about those ceramic ducts. Your wife has collected 116 00:07:37,580 --> 00:07:41,640 ornamental birds for some time, hasn't she? Birds, rabbits, souvenirs, spoons. 117 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:42,679 She collects everything. 118 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,160 But your wife started collecting before she started watching the American Buying 119 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,160 Network, didn't she? 120 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,100 In a limited capacity, I suppose she did. 121 00:07:49,340 --> 00:07:54,940 $1 ,500 worth of glass wands your wife bought in 1989 at the Crystal Palace 122 00:07:54,940 --> 00:07:56,880 boutique. Is that a limited capacity? 123 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:01,480 All I know is that since they have been broadcasting, a day doesn't go by when a 124 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,800 delivery truck does not come to my house. You claim your wife suffers from 125 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,660 shopping compulsion. Is there anything about your wife's voice that would 126 00:08:08,660 --> 00:08:09,720 indicate this compulsion? 127 00:08:10,350 --> 00:08:15,310 No. Anything at all that would, in your opinion, indicate to a phone operator at 128 00:08:15,310 --> 00:08:18,630 the American buying network that your wife was compulsive? Well, how about the 129 00:08:18,630 --> 00:08:20,910 fact that she calls 50 times a day? 130 00:08:21,130 --> 00:08:24,190 So you're saying that based on the frequency of your wife's calls, an 131 00:08:24,190 --> 00:08:26,830 should have been able to diagnose her as having a psychiatric disorder? 132 00:08:27,190 --> 00:08:30,390 That's right. And furthermore, based on the diagnosis, they should have refused 133 00:08:30,390 --> 00:08:31,770 to sell her anything? That's right. 134 00:08:32,250 --> 00:08:36,429 You don't have an American booze network selling to drunks, an American dope 135 00:08:36,429 --> 00:08:40,210 network selling to junkies. By the same token, you should not have an American 136 00:08:40,210 --> 00:08:41,770 buying network selling to my wife. 137 00:08:44,350 --> 00:08:48,610 Mr. Carey, when did you first experience symptoms related to your current 138 00:08:48,610 --> 00:08:53,810 condition? During Operation Desert Storm. My unit secured the albopro oil 139 00:08:53,810 --> 00:08:55,530 which the Iraqis had set on fire. 140 00:08:55,750 --> 00:09:00,110 The smoke was so thick that you could taste it. And that week I got a skin 141 00:09:00,190 --> 00:09:01,270 headaches, and I... 142 00:09:01,710 --> 00:09:06,530 I coughed black fluid from my lungs. And how was your health after returning to 143 00:09:06,530 --> 00:09:07,530 the United States? 144 00:09:07,570 --> 00:09:12,590 I experienced fatigue, pain in my joints, and some hair loss, as well as 145 00:09:12,590 --> 00:09:16,930 headaches whenever I smelled anything chemical. But I didn't realize how bad 146 00:09:16,930 --> 00:09:20,930 I was until I failed my annual physical performance test that August. 147 00:09:21,170 --> 00:09:22,610 What happened after you failed? 148 00:09:24,570 --> 00:09:26,050 I was discharged. 149 00:09:26,550 --> 00:09:30,690 What? If any, medical treatment did you receive after your discharge? 150 00:09:31,030 --> 00:09:34,930 Well, I went to the Veterans Hospital maybe a dozen times over a period of six 151 00:09:34,930 --> 00:09:38,690 months, but the doctor said they could never find anything wrong with me. Dr. 152 00:09:38,890 --> 00:09:42,290 Kreuter asked me if I was malingering, right to my face. 153 00:09:43,090 --> 00:09:46,790 In the end, he just wrote me down as being depressed and gave me some pills. 154 00:09:47,130 --> 00:09:49,570 How has your illness affected your life? 155 00:09:49,930 --> 00:09:54,270 Two years ago, my wife and I had plans to buy a house and start a family. 156 00:09:55,990 --> 00:10:02,480 Today... I have no job, no savings, $100 ,000 in medical bills. 157 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:09,800 My wife divorced me, and my career in the military is over. 158 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,500 Why are you suing the Department of Veterans Affairs? 159 00:10:13,300 --> 00:10:17,720 I served my country, and I don't regret that for a second, but the deal was, if 160 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,400 I got hurt, that the VA was supposed to take care of me. 161 00:10:20,860 --> 00:10:24,160 And instead, they just watched me fall apart. 162 00:10:25,130 --> 00:10:26,330 I have nothing further. 163 00:10:28,810 --> 00:10:35,250 Mr. Carey, according to your hospital file, you were seen by nine 164 00:10:35,250 --> 00:10:41,810 VA specialists who conducted no fewer than 23 diagnostic tests on you. Blood 165 00:10:41,810 --> 00:10:46,510 panels, bone marrow biopsies, EMGs, EKGs, CAT scans. 166 00:10:46,870 --> 00:10:50,390 Is this your idea of doctors just watching you fall apart? 167 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,180 They never tested me for chemical poisoning. 168 00:10:53,420 --> 00:10:56,800 Let me ask you something, Mr. Carey. How do you explain the fact that of the 120 169 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:01,580 men in your unit, you're the only one claiming to be permanently harmed by oil 170 00:11:01,580 --> 00:11:05,080 fires? Maybe I breathe more smoke. I don't know. Look, there are hundreds of 171 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,680 guys from other units who came back just as sick as me. Nobody disputes that you 172 00:11:08,680 --> 00:11:12,220 and other vets are sick, but you're accusing VA doctors of negligence. 173 00:11:12,830 --> 00:11:17,090 Do you have any reason for believing that Dr. Kreuter and his staff were less 174 00:11:17,090 --> 00:11:20,490 than diligent in their attempts to diagnose and treat you? Yes, I got hurt 175 00:11:20,490 --> 00:11:21,490 there. 176 00:11:21,810 --> 00:11:23,610 Just as sure as if I'd taken a bullet. 177 00:11:24,750 --> 00:11:28,230 And Dr. Kreuter, he told me it was all in my head. I mean, he let me get worse 178 00:11:28,230 --> 00:11:29,770 and worse to where I'll never recover. 179 00:11:30,690 --> 00:11:33,790 To me, that's being less than diligent. To me, he was just being a government 180 00:11:33,790 --> 00:11:35,970 bureaucrat when what he should have been was a doctor. 181 00:11:45,580 --> 00:11:49,580 I don't like what's happening. Ray, I entered a plea of not guilty because I 182 00:11:49,580 --> 00:11:51,080 think there's a chance of getting him off. 183 00:11:51,420 --> 00:11:55,720 I hate to say this, but I don't think that's necessarily what's best for him. 184 00:11:56,140 --> 00:11:57,280 What are you talking about? 185 00:11:57,500 --> 00:12:01,180 Ed, face it. For once in your life, look at things the way they really are. 186 00:12:01,580 --> 00:12:06,540 Our son is incapable of living outside of an institution. We have known that 187 00:12:06,540 --> 00:12:09,840 since he was a teenager. I don't accept that. I know you don't accept it, but 188 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,980 whether you accept it or not, it's the truth. Eli, I want you to change the 189 00:12:13,980 --> 00:12:14,980 to insanity. 190 00:12:15,810 --> 00:12:16,810 I won't do that. 191 00:12:17,170 --> 00:12:18,510 What do you mean you won't do that? 192 00:12:18,710 --> 00:12:19,710 Just what I said. 193 00:12:19,950 --> 00:12:21,730 You hired me to be your son's attorney. 194 00:12:21,970 --> 00:12:25,010 That doesn't make you my client. That makes him my client. And I'm going to do 195 00:12:25,010 --> 00:12:26,010 it in his best interest. 196 00:12:26,090 --> 00:12:29,990 Do you think it's in his best interest for him to be on the street? I think 197 00:12:29,990 --> 00:12:33,790 in his best interest to be in a controlled therapeutic environment. That 198 00:12:33,790 --> 00:12:34,790 mean locking him up. 199 00:12:35,190 --> 00:12:37,870 Particularly when he's innocent of the crime with which he's been charged. 200 00:12:43,370 --> 00:12:48,450 Dr. Anson, as a specialist in environmental medicine, have you 201 00:12:48,450 --> 00:12:49,790 Carey? Yes, I have. 202 00:12:50,050 --> 00:12:54,670 Mr. Carey is suffering from chemical sensitivity due to petroleum exposure. 203 00:12:55,410 --> 00:12:59,910 I might also add that I've personally diagnosed 27 Gulf veterans with the same 204 00:12:59,910 --> 00:13:02,460 condition. On what do you base your diagnosis? 205 00:13:02,780 --> 00:13:04,120 On chemical response tests. 206 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,820 Normally harmless concentrations of petroleum triggered violent reactions in 207 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,520 Carey, indicating a past exposure to a damaging dose of chemicals. 208 00:13:12,820 --> 00:13:16,400 What treatment, if any, exists for this condition? 209 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,740 Patients are injected with tiny amounts of petroleum derivates to rebuild their 210 00:13:20,740 --> 00:13:24,800 tolerance. Now, if Mr. Carey had received such treatment early on, I 211 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:25,800 would have fully recovered. 212 00:13:25,900 --> 00:13:29,980 Doctor, in your opinion, should a physician who isn't trained in your 213 00:13:30,180 --> 00:13:30,979 like Dr. 214 00:13:30,980 --> 00:13:34,480 Kreuter, be expected to know about chemical sensitivity? 215 00:13:34,940 --> 00:13:38,940 Generally, no. But two years ago, when the first vet showed up with these 216 00:13:38,940 --> 00:13:40,660 symptoms, I contacted Dr. 217 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,820 Kreuter to alert him about chemical sensitivity. 218 00:13:43,610 --> 00:13:46,070 I sent him case studies, treatment protocols. 219 00:13:46,490 --> 00:13:49,650 If he would have used them, he could have saved David Carey untold suffering. 220 00:13:49,910 --> 00:13:50,970 I have nothing further. 221 00:13:51,270 --> 00:13:55,610 Doctor, isn't it true that the American Board of Medical Specialists rejects 222 00:13:55,610 --> 00:13:59,490 environmental medicine as a specialty because they find your methods 223 00:13:59,490 --> 00:14:00,770 inconclusive? Yes. 224 00:14:01,150 --> 00:14:02,150 Naturally, I disagree. 225 00:14:02,530 --> 00:14:06,090 Naturally. Now, these response tests... 226 00:14:06,410 --> 00:14:10,750 You spoke of assuming they're accurate. They show that Mr. Carey is sensitive to 227 00:14:10,750 --> 00:14:11,750 chemicals, correct? 228 00:14:11,810 --> 00:14:15,310 Yes, and such sensitivity indicates chemical poisoning in the past. 229 00:14:15,570 --> 00:14:18,010 But assuming that's true, how do you know that chemical poisoning and not 230 00:14:18,010 --> 00:14:21,890 something else is behind Mr. Carey's fatigue, joint pain, and weight loss? 231 00:14:22,090 --> 00:14:25,910 Our research shows that those symptoms are consistent with chemical exposure. 232 00:14:26,230 --> 00:14:30,450 Are you aware that there are other theories that have been proposed for 233 00:14:30,450 --> 00:14:31,450 wrong with these vets? 234 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,460 Some doctors say they have a rare bacterial infection. 235 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:39,260 Others say the culprit is a parasite transmitted in the bite of a Middle 236 00:14:39,260 --> 00:14:43,100 sand flea. I know that I have been treating these vets and getting results. 237 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,840 After a year of your treatments, Mr. Carey still appears to be quite ill. 238 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,160 because Dr. Croyder has allowed his condition to progress to an irreversible 239 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,700 stage. That's one explanation. Another is that your diagnosis is wrong and your 240 00:14:54,700 --> 00:14:55,700 treatment's ineffective. 241 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,500 Objection. That's all right. I'm done with the doctor. 242 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,440 What is your position at the American Buying Network, Mr. Atkins? 243 00:15:05,860 --> 00:15:09,420 Founder, president, chief cook and bottle washer. It's pretty much my baby. 244 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,480 Could you describe for us the kind of interaction that would have likely taken 245 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,360 place between Philomena Bannister and the various operators she would have 246 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:17,179 orders with? 247 00:15:17,180 --> 00:15:19,340 Generally, there would have been an exchange of pleasantries. 248 00:15:19,780 --> 00:15:24,000 We'd take her name, address, daytime telephone number and a major credit 249 00:15:24,260 --> 00:15:27,220 She'd place an order and that would be that. Mr. Atkins. 250 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,440 Why did the American Buying Network continue to sell to Philomena Bannister? 251 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,680 It's not our role to decide for our customers how much they should spend or 252 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,600 they should buy or how often they should shop any more than it's the role of 253 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,020 Neiman Marcus or Nordstrom's or Bob's Big Boy. 254 00:15:42,220 --> 00:15:45,740 As long as Philomena Bannister wants to be our customer, it's not up to me to 255 00:15:45,740 --> 00:15:46,719 say she can't be. 256 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:47,840 Thank you. Nothing further. 257 00:15:48,380 --> 00:15:52,740 Mr. Atkins, do you have any idea how much Philomena Bannister purchased from 258 00:15:52,740 --> 00:15:54,100 American Buying Network? 259 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:59,180 No, actually, I don't. Would it surprise you to learn that she averaged over $1 260 00:15:59,180 --> 00:16:02,600 ,500 a week in the past two years? 261 00:16:03,460 --> 00:16:06,400 No. Would you say that sounds a little excessive? 262 00:16:06,820 --> 00:16:10,920 I'm in no position to say anything of the kind. What's excessive for one 263 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,400 is moderate for another. 264 00:16:12,660 --> 00:16:14,500 Does the fact that these two people... 265 00:16:14,990 --> 00:16:20,210 face the prospect of the bank foreclosing on their mortgage, suggest 266 00:16:20,210 --> 00:16:21,630 their case might not be moderate? 267 00:16:21,870 --> 00:16:26,530 Again, I don't presume to tell someone how to spend their money. If a shelf 268 00:16:26,530 --> 00:16:31,370 of figurines or a strand of faux pearls and matching earrings brings joy and a 269 00:16:31,370 --> 00:16:35,490 sense of well -being to someone's existence, who am I to tell them they 270 00:16:35,490 --> 00:16:36,490 shouldn't have those things? 271 00:16:36,570 --> 00:16:40,250 Tell me, Mr. Atkins, do you have any familiarity with compulsive shopping 272 00:16:40,250 --> 00:16:44,650 disorder? Not really, no. Well, let me put it this way. Did it ever occur to 273 00:16:44,650 --> 00:16:49,470 that Philomena Bannister might not need any more shelves of figurines or strands 274 00:16:49,470 --> 00:16:51,570 of faux pearls with matching earrings? 275 00:16:51,910 --> 00:16:53,510 If I thought that way, I'd be out of business. 276 00:16:53,910 --> 00:16:55,810 Spoken like a true visionary. 277 00:16:56,370 --> 00:16:57,530 Objection. Withdrawn. 278 00:16:58,010 --> 00:16:59,010 Nothing further. 279 00:17:05,329 --> 00:17:06,329 Eli? 280 00:17:06,650 --> 00:17:08,790 Eli, this is Jinx Baldessari. 281 00:17:09,150 --> 00:17:10,150 How do you do? 282 00:17:10,569 --> 00:17:11,730 Hi. Can I get you something? 283 00:17:11,990 --> 00:17:13,510 A bottle of water would be great. 284 00:17:13,790 --> 00:17:14,790 Thanks for coming over. 285 00:17:14,910 --> 00:17:18,710 You're representing that guy who's charged with killing a social worker. 286 00:17:18,950 --> 00:17:23,089 Right. From what my friends in the DA's office tell me, you've got your work cut 287 00:17:23,089 --> 00:17:24,089 out for you. 288 00:17:24,210 --> 00:17:26,210 That I do. What can I do for you? 289 00:17:26,849 --> 00:17:29,350 I have reason to suspect that the husband is not all he seems. 290 00:17:29,670 --> 00:17:30,950 You think he killed his wife? 291 00:17:31,470 --> 00:17:35,550 I don't know. Is this an exercise in wishful thinking, then? It's a little 292 00:17:35,550 --> 00:17:38,630 more than that. The husband's been seen around town with a woman he seems to 293 00:17:38,630 --> 00:17:39,630 know quite well. 294 00:17:40,010 --> 00:17:43,730 I'm led to believe their behavior is on the libidinous side. I can put a tail on 295 00:17:43,730 --> 00:17:47,930 him 24 hours a day. I can find out who the girlfriend is and put a tail on her. 296 00:17:48,230 --> 00:17:51,950 Sounds good. I charge $750 per eight -hour day. 297 00:17:52,370 --> 00:17:54,770 Overtime and out -of -pocket expenses are extra. 298 00:17:54,990 --> 00:17:57,650 You come very highly recommended. I'm sure you're worth whatever you charge. 299 00:17:57,950 --> 00:17:58,950 Excuse me. 300 00:17:59,110 --> 00:18:00,009 Here's your water. 301 00:18:00,010 --> 00:18:03,770 Thanks. Sure. I love your outfit. Oh, thank you. Really fabulous. 302 00:18:04,330 --> 00:18:05,890 Thank you. Is that at Harold and Beth? 303 00:18:07,110 --> 00:18:08,630 Actually, it's at Comme des Garcons. 304 00:18:08,990 --> 00:18:09,990 Oh. Really? 305 00:18:10,500 --> 00:18:12,440 Glass. Oh, I'm sorry. I'll practice. 306 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,060 I'm sure people tell you all the time how you don't look like a private 307 00:18:15,060 --> 00:18:16,620 investigator. Yes, they do. 308 00:18:16,900 --> 00:18:19,780 Yeah, I figured they did. Is that something you were planning on saying? 309 00:18:20,020 --> 00:18:21,020 Me? No. 310 00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:22,100 Good. 311 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,480 Why don't we start going over the file? 312 00:18:24,900 --> 00:18:25,900 Right. 313 00:18:31,500 --> 00:18:37,020 Dr. Kreuter, during your examination of David Carey, what evidence of physical 314 00:18:37,020 --> 00:18:38,180 illness did you find? 315 00:18:38,570 --> 00:18:43,010 Despite extensive diagnostic testing, I found no evidence of anything physically 316 00:18:43,010 --> 00:18:43,929 wrong with Mr. 317 00:18:43,930 --> 00:18:46,050 Carey. And what did you conclude was the cause of Mr. 318 00:18:46,250 --> 00:18:47,250 Carey's symptoms? 319 00:18:47,290 --> 00:18:50,310 At the time, I concluded the cause was clinical depression. 320 00:18:50,670 --> 00:18:55,050 Mr. Carey's fatigue, weight loss, mood swings, and loss of appetite fit the 321 00:18:55,050 --> 00:18:57,750 criteria. I prescribed medication accordingly. 322 00:18:58,170 --> 00:19:01,210 Do you recall during this period having a conversation with Dr. 323 00:19:01,470 --> 00:19:03,290 Anson on chemical sensitivity? 324 00:19:03,830 --> 00:19:06,510 Yes, and I received and read his materials. 325 00:19:06,870 --> 00:19:09,630 Did you consider treating Mr. Carey for chemical sensitivity? 326 00:19:10,030 --> 00:19:14,130 No. I found the theory speculative, and I wasn't about to experiment on my 327 00:19:14,130 --> 00:19:18,270 patients with treatments whose efficacy and safety was unproven. 328 00:19:18,490 --> 00:19:23,330 Dr. Kreuter, is there anything you know now that might cause you to revise your 329 00:19:23,330 --> 00:19:27,730 diagnosis of Mr. Carey? The truth is, nobody knows what's causing these 330 00:19:27,730 --> 00:19:31,690 symptoms. But having seen more cases of Gulf veterans with these sort of 331 00:19:31,690 --> 00:19:35,480 problems... We have a basis for concluding that some sort of 332 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,480 condition does exist, so I might very well revise my diagnosis. 333 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:40,960 I have nothing further. 334 00:19:43,580 --> 00:19:49,100 Dr. Kreuter, in your mind, does it indicate a prudent standard of care when 335 00:19:49,100 --> 00:19:53,260 patient is allowed to deteriorate to the point where he can't walk unassisted? 336 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:54,439 I watch Mr. 337 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,300 Carey's decline with great frustration and sympathy. 338 00:19:58,410 --> 00:20:02,190 But I did everything I could for him based on accepted medical practice. 339 00:20:02,250 --> 00:20:06,250 given that accepted medical practice had failed, Mr. Carey, how could you 340 00:20:06,250 --> 00:20:07,290 dismiss Dr. 341 00:20:07,510 --> 00:20:08,510 Anson's approach? 342 00:20:08,530 --> 00:20:11,230 I received my training at Johns Hopkins, Miss Halliday. 343 00:20:12,170 --> 00:20:16,610 I was taught not to subject my patients to the risks of unproven treatments. 344 00:20:16,830 --> 00:20:18,470 You never told me a treatment existed. 345 00:20:18,810 --> 00:20:20,130 How could you know and not tell me? 346 00:20:20,630 --> 00:20:23,550 I mean, it should have been up to me. How could you know and not even tell me? 347 00:20:23,630 --> 00:20:24,630 David. 348 00:20:27,370 --> 00:20:32,490 Dr. Kreuter, the treatment for chemical exposure is virtually risk -free. Didn't 349 00:20:32,490 --> 00:20:35,210 you owe it to David Carey to at least give it a try? 350 00:20:35,490 --> 00:20:37,930 We see hundreds of veterans a day, Miss Halliday. 351 00:20:38,450 --> 00:20:43,050 We do not have the time or the funds to try every non -conventional treatment 352 00:20:43,050 --> 00:20:44,230 that comes down the pike. 353 00:20:44,430 --> 00:20:49,150 So to be cost -effective, you gave this man a handful of happy pills and shoved 354 00:20:49,150 --> 00:20:52,600 him out the door. Objection. The fact that he laid down his life... For his 355 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:53,680 country didn't matter. 356 00:20:54,020 --> 00:20:56,640 Objection, Miss Halliday. His country was through with him, and you weren't 357 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,960 about to expend the time or money to treat him. Objection, Miss Halliday. Is 358 00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:02,140 possible, Doctor, that had you tried Dr. 359 00:21:02,380 --> 00:21:06,740 Anson's treatment two years ago, David Carey would be well by now? Is it 360 00:21:06,740 --> 00:21:10,880 possible that had you been of the mind to try, you could have done something to 361 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,160 help David Carey when he asked you for help? 362 00:21:15,020 --> 00:21:17,060 I don't know the answer to that question. 363 00:21:17,740 --> 00:21:18,880 I have no others. 364 00:21:23,110 --> 00:21:24,190 Thank you, Doctor. 365 00:21:42,430 --> 00:21:44,730 Do you go to war and get hit by a bullet? 366 00:21:45,890 --> 00:21:49,350 They give you a medal, and everyone wants to see the scar. 367 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:55,200 But when you're hit with a bolt of toxic chemicals, they tell you it's all in 368 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:56,019 your head. 369 00:21:56,020 --> 00:22:02,160 Like hundreds of other Desert Storm veterans, David Carey came home sick, 370 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,980 to face skepticism and denial from those charged with making him well. 371 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,439 It was Dr. 372 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,660 Kreuter's job to do everything in his power to relieve David Carey's 373 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:16,920 Not only did he fail to do so, but by choosing to ignore a promising therapy 374 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,240 heaped enormous and needless amounts of suffering onto his patient. 375 00:22:20,540 --> 00:22:21,560 If not for Dr. 376 00:22:21,820 --> 00:22:26,660 Kreuter's inaction, David Carey would be able to walk right now without using a 377 00:22:26,660 --> 00:22:31,660 cane. He would be able to climb a flight of stairs without gasping for breath. 378 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,340 David Carey deserved better. 379 00:22:34,910 --> 00:22:39,730 All of the men and women who risk their lives in service of our country deserve 380 00:22:39,730 --> 00:22:40,730 better. 381 00:22:41,450 --> 00:22:44,910 Dr. Kreuter got the physician's credo mixed up. 382 00:22:45,250 --> 00:22:49,450 Instead of first do no harm, he heard first do nothing. 383 00:22:50,070 --> 00:22:55,750 And by doing nothing, he caused David Carey a great deal of harm. 384 00:22:57,150 --> 00:22:59,690 Harm from which he will never recover. 385 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,300 Standard of care. 386 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,660 That's the guideline you look to when judging whether a doctor acted 387 00:23:10,660 --> 00:23:16,220 negligently. And Dr. Kreuter acted no differently in caring for Mr. Carey than 388 00:23:16,220 --> 00:23:21,160 any responsible physician would have. The fact is, nobody could pin down this 389 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,320 disease two years ago. 390 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,740 And they can't pin it down now. 391 00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:26,520 All we have are theories. 392 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,360 Against these odds, Dr. 393 00:23:28,620 --> 00:23:33,420 Kreuter and his staff worked diligently to try to find out what was wrong with 394 00:23:33,420 --> 00:23:34,420 Mr. Carey. 395 00:23:34,430 --> 00:23:38,090 The fact that Dr. Kreuter had read some literature about a non -traditional 396 00:23:38,090 --> 00:23:43,150 method of treatment in no way obliged him to experiment with it, especially 397 00:23:43,150 --> 00:23:47,910 he had such serious doubts about its efficacy and safety. Dr. Kreuter is not 398 00:23:47,910 --> 00:23:50,450 incompetent or a negligent physician. 399 00:23:51,390 --> 00:23:57,090 He is a kind and caring doctor who treated his patients as best he could. 400 00:24:02,899 --> 00:24:03,920 Don't ignore me, man. 401 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:05,780 Hey, I'm a human being. 402 00:24:06,340 --> 00:24:07,360 I'm a subterfuge. 403 00:24:07,860 --> 00:24:08,860 An experience? 404 00:24:09,220 --> 00:24:10,720 Don't you pretend to be a husband and wife? 405 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,940 You know, I could be wrong, but somehow I don't think this woman is going to be 406 00:24:14,940 --> 00:24:16,740 all that interested in our marital status. 407 00:24:17,220 --> 00:24:21,500 You're Pamela Reisenfeld? 408 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,660 Yes, I am. We'd like to talk to you about Jonah Berge. 409 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,800 Who are you? I'm a private investigator. My name is James Baldessari. 410 00:24:29,020 --> 00:24:30,820 This is Eli Levinson. He's an attorney. 411 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,260 Hi. I really have nothing to say about Jonah, and if that's what you're here to 412 00:24:35,260 --> 00:24:37,460 talk to me about, I'd like to ask you to leave. 413 00:24:37,780 --> 00:24:39,080 You don't want to talk to us? 414 00:24:39,380 --> 00:24:40,920 No, I don't want to talk to you. 415 00:24:41,180 --> 00:24:45,020 If I get a opinion issue, you'll have to testify in court. If you talk to us, we 416 00:24:45,020 --> 00:24:46,480 may find there's no reason to put you through that. 417 00:24:46,900 --> 00:24:49,260 Look, I don't know anything about Gail's death. 418 00:24:49,540 --> 00:24:52,140 I'm sure you don't. What I'm looking for is just a little background 419 00:24:52,140 --> 00:24:53,140 information. 420 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:54,800 What kind of background information? 421 00:24:55,380 --> 00:24:59,240 What kind of shape was Jonah's marriage in? I don't know what that means. 422 00:25:00,020 --> 00:25:01,120 Was he planning on getting a divorce? 423 00:25:01,870 --> 00:25:06,170 I wouldn't know. How long had the two of you been sleeping together when his 424 00:25:06,170 --> 00:25:07,170 wife was murdered? 425 00:25:07,350 --> 00:25:11,410 I can't believe you're asking me that. That 1993 Jaguar you're driving is 426 00:25:11,410 --> 00:25:14,810 registered to him. You're trying to hide the nature of your relationship. 427 00:25:15,390 --> 00:25:17,130 You're not doing a very good job. 428 00:25:18,750 --> 00:25:22,470 This discussion is over. I want you both to leave. 429 00:25:22,830 --> 00:25:24,510 This is a murder trial, Ms. Reithenfeld. 430 00:25:24,730 --> 00:25:26,110 There are no secrets anymore. 431 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,720 Your Honor, at this time, defense would like to call Philomena Bannister. Ms. 432 00:25:39,820 --> 00:25:40,820 Mitchell, where's your client? 433 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,400 Your Honor, I apologize. 434 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,500 She said she'd be right back. 435 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,900 Your Honor, she's in your chambers. 436 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,040 She's what? 437 00:25:50,220 --> 00:25:51,400 Are you kidding? 438 00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:54,880 I love the fit. I love the color. I love the material. 439 00:25:58,100 --> 00:26:01,340 Yvonne, I love those unicorns. Excuse me, Your Honor. Case closed. 440 00:26:01,620 --> 00:26:04,440 We got Exhibit A right here. Your Honor, I want this excluded from the 441 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,320 proceedings. I do not want the jury told about this. 442 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,760 Never mind telling the jury. Just bring them in here and let them take a look 443 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:11,519 for themselves. 444 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,200 There will be no mention of this in front of the jury. 445 00:26:15,540 --> 00:26:20,940 I want everyone back in that courtroom. I want to continue this trial in an 446 00:26:20,940 --> 00:26:21,940 orderly fashion. 447 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,720 Now get out of my chamber. 448 00:26:29,390 --> 00:26:33,290 Ms. Bannister, would you tell the court if you are currently in therapy for 449 00:26:33,290 --> 00:26:35,310 treatment of an obsessive compulsive disorder? 450 00:26:35,910 --> 00:26:40,810 Yes, I am. And it's a fact, is it not, that when you talk to your husband and 451 00:26:40,810 --> 00:26:45,910 your therapist and others about shopping via this television channel, you didn't 452 00:26:45,910 --> 00:26:48,290 just refer to the merchandise you ordered? 453 00:26:48,530 --> 00:26:52,410 Oh, there's more to it than the merchandise. I acknowledge that. You 454 00:26:52,410 --> 00:26:55,410 each of the on -air hosts by name? 455 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:01,180 You refer to feeling a sense of physical exhilaration each time they announced a 456 00:27:01,180 --> 00:27:03,480 price reduction by tooting a bicycle horn. 457 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,700 I know I'm a compulsive shopper. 458 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,460 And I know that some people might find me ridiculous or pathetic. 459 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,900 But no matter what my therapist says, I don't shop because there's something 460 00:27:17,900 --> 00:27:23,420 missing in my life or because I'm secretly angry with my husband. 461 00:27:25,390 --> 00:27:26,610 I'm sorry, Howard. 462 00:27:26,850 --> 00:27:30,630 I look at your face and I know you're trying so hard to do what you think is 463 00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:31,630 best for us. 464 00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:36,250 I shop because I love to. 465 00:27:38,470 --> 00:27:41,250 I love everything about it. 466 00:27:41,590 --> 00:27:44,850 I love picking up the phone and placing the order. 467 00:27:45,090 --> 00:27:49,510 I love standing at my window every morning watching the truck arrive right 468 00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:54,250 schedule. Asking the delivery man about his kids while I sign for my package. 469 00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:01,580 I love slicing open the packing tape and opening the box and seeing what I got 470 00:28:01,580 --> 00:28:02,580 new today. 471 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,940 I'm a housewife. 472 00:28:04,220 --> 00:28:06,820 I've been married to the same man for 20 years. 473 00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:08,800 Lived in the same house for 15. 474 00:28:09,060 --> 00:28:13,280 The basics of my life don't change very much from day to day, and I don't expect 475 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,940 they ever will, but that's okay. 476 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:21,280 I'm not looking for a lot of excitement, so I call the American Buying Network. 477 00:28:24,110 --> 00:28:25,450 And I chat with the hosts. 478 00:28:25,970 --> 00:28:31,990 And then I buy something. Maybe a piece of jewelry or a blouse or even something 479 00:28:31,990 --> 00:28:37,090 silly like a ceramic duck. But at that moment, I feel sustained. 480 00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:39,590 I feel happy. 481 00:28:40,770 --> 00:28:42,790 I have something new. 482 00:28:48,210 --> 00:28:49,630 Please be seated. 483 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,080 Clerk will read the verdict. 484 00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:06,880 In the matter of Kerry versus the United States of America, the jury finds for 485 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:07,880 the defendant. 486 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,540 Jury is dismissed to the thanks of the court. 487 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:11,980 We are adjourned. 488 00:29:13,340 --> 00:29:14,420 I'm sorry, David. 489 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,140 Well, we gave it a shot, right? 490 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,560 We'll appeal. 491 00:29:20,380 --> 00:29:21,380 Right. 492 00:29:22,380 --> 00:29:25,420 Come on. Why don't you let me give you a ride home? No, I can get home by 493 00:29:25,420 --> 00:29:26,540 myself. I think I'll... 494 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,220 Just sit here for a little while. 495 00:29:28,780 --> 00:29:29,780 Sure. 496 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,240 Yeah. 497 00:29:45,820 --> 00:29:47,300 I'd like to see Eli Levinson. 498 00:29:47,620 --> 00:29:48,199 You want? 499 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,740 Jonah Bergen. Do you have an appointment? 500 00:29:50,020 --> 00:29:51,240 No, I don't have an appointment. 501 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,880 What's with the attitude? I just asked a question. 502 00:29:55,020 --> 00:29:56,080 I don't have an appointment. 503 00:29:56,420 --> 00:29:57,680 Well, then how did you get past reception? 504 00:29:58,060 --> 00:29:59,060 I lied. 505 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,120 Oh. 506 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,300 Let me see if Eli's available. 507 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:05,920 Eli. 508 00:30:06,260 --> 00:30:07,760 Yeah, is it Jonah Berge here? 509 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,480 I have no idea. 510 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,600 Yeah. Okay. 511 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,200 Come right this way. 512 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,320 What can I do for you, Mr. Berge? You can honor a very simple request. 513 00:30:28,660 --> 00:30:30,560 If you're interested in me, you come to me. 514 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,900 Don't violate the privacy of other people. 515 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,360 Are you willing to answer a few questions? 516 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,120 What is it that you would like to know? 517 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,440 How long have you been going out with Pamela Reisenfeld? 518 00:30:41,740 --> 00:30:44,980 I don't know what you mean by going out. We've been friends for a number of 519 00:30:44,980 --> 00:30:47,520 years. Were the two of you having an affair while your wife was alive? 520 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,640 I assume that the import of that question is that if we were, I killed my 521 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,580 I'm just trying to get a picture of who everyone is in all this. 522 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,020 You know, whenever I've had dealings with lawyers, I'm always struck by how 523 00:30:59,020 --> 00:31:00,440 utterly amoral they are. 524 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,420 Really? You're willing to go into court and spread absolute falsehoods. 525 00:31:06,020 --> 00:31:07,320 You're willing to impugn me. 526 00:31:07,580 --> 00:31:10,880 You're willing to encroach on the lives of innocent people, not because you 527 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,400 actually think that I'm guilty of anything, but as a way of manufacturing 528 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,240 about whether or not your client is guilty. 529 00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:19,680 It's amazing. You're totally unconcerned with what actually happened. 530 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,340 I don't know what actually happened. 531 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:22,720 Okay. 532 00:31:24,260 --> 00:31:26,500 I'm not going to answer any more questions. 533 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,800 If I'm cold to the stand, I'll testify, but I don't want to answer any more 534 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:31,800 questions voluntarily. 535 00:31:31,860 --> 00:31:33,800 I find what you're doing deeply offensive. 536 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,120 And I'm not going to cooperate with you. I didn't really expect that you would. 537 00:31:39,340 --> 00:31:43,880 By the way, someone told me that you're a patient of Max Binderman's. 538 00:31:46,180 --> 00:31:47,480 What someone was that? 539 00:31:47,740 --> 00:31:49,160 I don't know who it was. 540 00:31:50,060 --> 00:31:53,640 They said that you had a major breakdown a couple of years ago. Now, you've been 541 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:54,640 under Max's care. 542 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,440 The reason I mention it is that Max and I were in graduate school together. 543 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,280 I didn't realize you were trained in psychology. 544 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,220 One of my doctorates is in psychology. 545 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,660 I just never practiced. 546 00:32:04,540 --> 00:32:05,540 Uh -huh. 547 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,780 Can we say hi to Max for me? 548 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,120 When you talk to him. 549 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,460 Compulsive shopping disorder. 550 00:32:18,350 --> 00:32:19,510 It sounds like a joke. 551 00:32:19,930 --> 00:32:25,350 I assure you, ladies and gentlemen, to those facing bankruptcy, it is no joke. 552 00:32:25,550 --> 00:32:28,690 An addiction to shopping is just like any other addiction. 553 00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:32,930 It robs you of your free will and it takes over your life. 554 00:32:33,210 --> 00:32:38,210 This particular addiction is a little different, though. This addiction is 555 00:32:38,210 --> 00:32:44,170 actively encouraged by a powerful broadcast network that lures in people 556 00:32:44,170 --> 00:32:47,710 Philomena. They get them and they don't let them go. 557 00:32:48,110 --> 00:32:51,970 Gerard Atkins claims he is not familiar with this disorder. 558 00:32:52,210 --> 00:32:57,530 The truth is, he is all too familiar with it. He's made a fortune exploiting 559 00:32:58,050 --> 00:33:04,110 The American Buying Network is designed to extract every dime they can from 560 00:33:04,110 --> 00:33:05,630 people like Philomena Bannister. 561 00:33:05,910 --> 00:33:10,350 They came into her home, they pretended to be her friend, and then they 562 00:33:10,350 --> 00:33:15,230 systematically drove both her and her husband to the brink of financial ruin. 563 00:33:16,430 --> 00:33:22,730 We ask that damages be assessed in the amount of half a million dollars to make 564 00:33:22,730 --> 00:33:28,970 these two whole and to tell this corporation its behavior isn't justified 565 00:33:28,970 --> 00:33:31,390 fact that it made the sale. 566 00:33:37,870 --> 00:33:42,410 Philomena Vance loves to shop. 567 00:33:43,330 --> 00:33:44,870 We all heard her testimony. 568 00:33:46,350 --> 00:33:48,450 Howard Bannister thinks his wife shops too much. 569 00:33:48,970 --> 00:33:50,530 Do I think she shops too much? 570 00:33:50,790 --> 00:33:52,110 Maybe I do. 571 00:33:52,530 --> 00:33:56,150 But the truth is, whatever anybody thinks about how much Philomena 572 00:33:56,150 --> 00:33:58,010 shops, it's none of anybody's business. 573 00:33:58,530 --> 00:34:00,590 And if you doubt that, ask yourself this. 574 00:34:01,510 --> 00:34:04,190 Is it anybody's business how much you shop? 575 00:34:04,570 --> 00:34:08,810 Philomena Bannister is seeing a therapist who says she has shopping 576 00:34:08,810 --> 00:34:13,190 disorder. Now, the fact is, there's no listing for this disorder in the 577 00:34:13,190 --> 00:34:15,630 Psychiatric Association's diagnostic manual. 578 00:34:16,030 --> 00:34:18,929 Howard Bannister couldn't tell us one identifying characteristic. 579 00:34:19,290 --> 00:34:25,090 Yet he expected the American Buying Network to take his word for it and act 580 00:34:25,090 --> 00:34:28,850 the capacity of a surrogate parent by refusing to sell to this woman what she 581 00:34:28,850 --> 00:34:30,090 asked to buy. 582 00:34:30,489 --> 00:34:32,469 Was the American Buying Network negligent? 583 00:34:32,949 --> 00:34:33,949 No. 584 00:34:34,310 --> 00:34:38,730 No, the American Buying Network is a business, and they do make a profit. 585 00:34:39,070 --> 00:34:42,409 But that does not make them responsible for the personal choices of their 586 00:34:42,409 --> 00:34:46,550 customers. It does not make it their responsibility to decide who can and 587 00:34:46,550 --> 00:34:50,850 shop. And frankly, ladies and gentlemen, I'm glad they don't have that power. 588 00:34:51,889 --> 00:34:56,690 I'm glad that each and every one of us is free to make our own choices. 589 00:34:56,909 --> 00:35:02,370 As you see, the minute we make someone else responsible, we give our freedom 590 00:35:02,370 --> 00:35:03,370 away. 591 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:11,760 Hi, Sandy. 592 00:35:11,780 --> 00:35:16,120 Hello. I got you some reading material. I didn't really know what your current 593 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,460 tastes are, so I picked out some stuff that I like. 594 00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:22,060 Larry McMurtry, Jim Harrison, some mysteries, magazines. 595 00:35:22,580 --> 00:35:23,680 Yeah, it's a little too much. 596 00:35:23,980 --> 00:35:26,280 Pick out what you like, and I'll bring the rest back. 597 00:35:26,500 --> 00:35:30,720 No, it's all too much. There's too much coming in. I can't keep track of other 598 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:36,300 people's stories and plots and characters and some magazine article 599 00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:38,060 something different and advertisements. 600 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:39,980 I can't keep track. 601 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,400 Of all that. 602 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:42,840 Okay. 603 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,740 Is there something that we need to discuss today? 604 00:35:44,980 --> 00:35:47,720 There are a couple of things I wanted to ask you. Come on, Ed, let's go. 605 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,140 Is it necessary that we go? Sandy, do you mind if we stay? 606 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:52,600 Do what you want. 607 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:57,520 What do you want to ask me? 608 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,280 Did you ever meet Gail's husband? 609 00:36:00,980 --> 00:36:03,300 No. He was never in the office when you were there? 610 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,360 I don't know what he looks like. 611 00:36:05,660 --> 00:36:07,840 So you have no way of knowing whether or not he was in the office when you were 612 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,040 there? Right. 613 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,200 Okay. Is that it? 614 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,960 Sandy, can you tell me where you were in the morning Gail was killed? 615 00:36:17,140 --> 00:36:18,140 Yeah, it was in my room. 616 00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:20,120 Can you think of anybody who might have seen you in your room? 617 00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:23,000 No. No one came by? 618 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,540 No. Did you go out to eat? 619 00:36:26,140 --> 00:36:27,140 Okay. 620 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,280 Next week we start picking a jury. 621 00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:30,700 Then we go to trial. 622 00:36:31,700 --> 00:36:32,700 Right. 623 00:36:33,220 --> 00:36:34,620 You need clothes for your trial. 624 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:36,680 Do you have clothes? 625 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,360 Yeah. 626 00:36:39,069 --> 00:36:40,069 Back in your room? 627 00:36:41,050 --> 00:36:42,930 Yeah. We'll go get them. 628 00:36:43,410 --> 00:36:47,130 Wait, if I'm found guilty, they won't keep me here, right? Don't be thinking 629 00:36:47,130 --> 00:36:48,170 about being found guilty. 630 00:36:48,410 --> 00:36:52,050 Well, excuse me, I'm sorry, but I am thinking about it. And the question I 631 00:36:52,050 --> 00:36:54,910 is whether or not they're going to keep me here or move me someplace else. 632 00:36:55,870 --> 00:36:57,130 They'll move you someplace else. 633 00:36:57,870 --> 00:36:58,870 Okay. 634 00:37:07,210 --> 00:37:08,750 So nobody smokes around here, huh? 635 00:37:09,610 --> 00:37:11,510 No, I don't think anyone here smokes. 636 00:37:12,070 --> 00:37:15,490 We had a champ who used to blow a reefer in the stairwell. Other than that, I 637 00:37:15,490 --> 00:37:16,490 don't think anybody smokes. 638 00:37:16,710 --> 00:37:19,290 So if I want to smoke, I have to go out by the elevator to the ladies' room, 639 00:37:19,330 --> 00:37:22,130 huh? Yeah, unless you want to risk incurring the wrath of your co -worker. 640 00:37:22,970 --> 00:37:25,650 Damn, if there was a nun pounding on the door, I'd feel like I was right back in 641 00:37:25,650 --> 00:37:26,770 high school. Let me help you with that. 642 00:37:27,150 --> 00:37:29,650 You're Jane Halliday, right? Yes. You have a call. 643 00:37:30,070 --> 00:37:31,070 Langston. Here. 644 00:37:32,090 --> 00:37:33,090 Hello. 645 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,080 I'll be down in front of the building. 646 00:37:39,060 --> 00:37:39,879 What's wrong? 647 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,560 My client's about to jump off a freeway overpass. 648 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:46,520 How 649 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:54,920 long 650 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,280 has he been there? About an hour. We can't get close to him. I thought maybe 651 00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,400 could. David! 652 00:38:27,530 --> 00:38:29,110 I'm just coming a little closer. 653 00:38:30,590 --> 00:38:32,330 I'm just going to sit right here. 654 00:38:33,950 --> 00:38:34,950 Okay? 655 00:38:40,590 --> 00:38:41,830 They made me beg. 656 00:38:42,770 --> 00:38:46,130 Like one of those guys with the signs that stands by the freeway entrance. 657 00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:48,830 David, you never asked for anything you didn't deserve. 658 00:38:49,210 --> 00:38:52,450 You know, when I was 24 years old, I was the youngest staff sergeant at Fort 659 00:38:52,450 --> 00:38:55,550 Sills. I was responsible for 40 men. 660 00:38:56,140 --> 00:38:59,460 I led my men into battle and I distinguished myself in combat. 661 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,540 I've already filed a notice of appeals. I intend to pursue this. I'll never be a 662 00:39:03,540 --> 00:39:04,540 soldier again. 663 00:39:05,220 --> 00:39:07,020 I'll never get my wife back again. 664 00:39:07,780 --> 00:39:11,300 I'll never be able to walk up a flight of stairs without having to sit down. 665 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,940 I have no reason to end your life. 666 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,660 Are you going to give me some article of religious faith? 667 00:39:19,060 --> 00:39:21,160 Are you going to quote me some scripture? 668 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,520 I can, if you want me to. 669 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:25,840 Sure. 670 00:39:26,540 --> 00:39:28,700 You tell me what the Bible says I should do. 671 00:39:30,020 --> 00:39:33,000 The Bible says, wait for the Lord. 672 00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:36,380 Be strong and wait for the Lord. 673 00:39:36,980 --> 00:39:41,860 If God is for us, who shall be against us? Who shall separate us from the love 674 00:39:41,860 --> 00:39:42,860 of Christ? 675 00:39:44,300 --> 00:39:45,740 And that does it for you, huh? 676 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,700 Praying does it for me. 677 00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:53,960 When I feel confused or depressed, I pray. 678 00:39:54,860 --> 00:39:58,960 I asked God to guide me. I asked him to show me the way. Well, I asked God to 679 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,820 guide me, but I haven't heard back from him yet. 680 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,920 You don't know any more than I know what the future holds. 681 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,980 You could find things that make you grateful for every year of life you're 682 00:40:09,980 --> 00:40:10,979 given. 683 00:40:10,980 --> 00:40:12,360 Is God talking? 684 00:40:13,580 --> 00:40:14,980 No, it's me talking. 685 00:40:21,470 --> 00:40:24,350 David, I want you to take my hand and come down from here. 686 00:40:26,050 --> 00:40:28,010 I want you to take my hand. 687 00:40:35,570 --> 00:40:37,610 I just want to have someone care about me. 688 00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:39,390 Stay ready. 689 00:40:40,010 --> 00:40:42,190 You have someone who cares about you. 690 00:40:43,970 --> 00:40:44,970 You have me. 691 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,100 Has the jury reached a verdict? 692 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,840 We have, Your Honor. What say you? In the matter of Bannister versus the 693 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,880 American buying network, we fine for the defendant. 694 00:41:03,260 --> 00:41:05,220 The jury is dismissed with the thanks of the court. 695 00:41:05,540 --> 00:41:06,780 We are adjourned. 696 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,400 Don't think this is over. I'll appeal. Mr. Bannister, Mrs. Bannister, I'd like 697 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:16,700 to discuss an idea I had. 698 00:41:16,940 --> 00:41:17,940 Is there someplace we can talk? 699 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,120 Sure. 700 00:41:24,590 --> 00:41:25,590 What are you proposing? 701 00:41:25,630 --> 00:41:27,270 We're proposing a job. What? 702 00:41:27,630 --> 00:41:32,050 I was watching you testify, Mrs. Bannister, and I wasn't visualizing you 703 00:41:32,050 --> 00:41:32,948 witness stand. 704 00:41:32,950 --> 00:41:36,710 I was visualizing you being broadcast into 43 million homes. 705 00:41:37,570 --> 00:41:38,830 What are you talking about? 706 00:41:39,110 --> 00:41:42,710 I'm talking about offering you a position at the American Buying Network 707 00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:43,790 on -air product host. 708 00:41:44,170 --> 00:41:44,988 Oh, no. 709 00:41:44,990 --> 00:41:48,050 We have the technology. What we don't want to lose is the humanity, and that's 710 00:41:48,050 --> 00:41:52,010 you, Mrs. Bannister. That's me? I believe you embody all the qualities 711 00:41:52,010 --> 00:41:54,730 keep us grounded, all the qualities our customers can relate to. 712 00:41:55,090 --> 00:41:57,670 I believe you are the American Buying Network customer. 713 00:41:58,130 --> 00:42:02,370 Really? We'd be willing to negotiate a substantial salary plus a signing bonus. 714 00:42:02,530 --> 00:42:03,610 Plus you forgive the debt? 715 00:42:03,830 --> 00:42:06,730 Plus we'll forgive the debt. And you agree not to sell her anything? 716 00:42:07,170 --> 00:42:08,170 Done. 717 00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:10,470 Gosh, I don't know what to say. 718 00:42:11,180 --> 00:42:12,078 Say yes. 719 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,620 Now, wait a minute, wait a minute. I'm going to stop being a lawyer here just 720 00:42:14,620 --> 00:42:17,720 for a second and ask a question. It's just someone who's watched you 721 00:42:17,720 --> 00:42:18,279 the trial. 722 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,980 Is it a good idea for you to be surrounded by this much temptation? 723 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,100 Oh, Mr. Rollins, I'm surrounded by temptation every day of my life. 724 00:42:25,540 --> 00:42:29,900 I'm in therapy. I realize the effect my extravagances have had on my husband, 725 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,780 and I know that in order for our marriage to survive, I must learn to 726 00:42:33,780 --> 00:42:37,880 them. So, if I succumb to temptation, I will quit. 727 00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:41,900 Okay. So right now I'm going to go home and figure out what to wear. 728 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,980 We'll give you help with that. We'll give you a complete orientation before 729 00:42:44,980 --> 00:42:45,980 go on the air. 730 00:42:46,060 --> 00:42:47,060 Wonderful. 731 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,420 I believe that you and I are going to have a lot of fun together. 732 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,480 I heard there was a little excitement today. 733 00:42:58,740 --> 00:43:00,260 Well, I guess you could call it that. 734 00:43:00,980 --> 00:43:02,060 I'm glad to hear he's all right. 735 00:43:03,140 --> 00:43:04,140 He's alive. 736 00:43:04,460 --> 00:43:05,740 I wouldn't say he's all right. 737 00:43:06,380 --> 00:43:09,880 Let me get to the point. I understand you intend to move forward with an 738 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,660 I'd like to see if we can avoid that. What do you propose? 739 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,020 $250 ,000. 740 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,540 Full and final payment. 741 00:43:19,460 --> 00:43:22,100 Only condition being absolute confidentiality. 742 00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:26,620 Suicidal veterans make for bad press, don't they? As do overly eager young 743 00:43:26,620 --> 00:43:28,700 attorneys with a great deal of time on their hands. 744 00:43:28,940 --> 00:43:33,100 Mr. Highgate, just so you know, I'm not overly eager and I don't have a lot of 745 00:43:33,100 --> 00:43:34,780 time on my hands. What I have... 746 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,880 He's a client whom I believe in. I'm prepared to pursue his case for as long 747 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,960 necessary until he feels he's been adequately compensated. And I think a 748 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,800 million dollars qualifies, wouldn't you? 749 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,340 I'll talk to my client. 750 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,440 I appreciate that. 751 00:43:51,700 --> 00:43:53,080 We'd like this to be over. 752 00:44:11,580 --> 00:44:13,260 Take what there is to take and go. 753 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,080 It's like a cell. 754 00:44:17,740 --> 00:44:19,920 What I'd like to know is how I was able to pay for it. 755 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:21,820 Seller knows how it costs money. 756 00:44:23,340 --> 00:44:25,160 I don't know how he paid for it. 757 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:26,960 It wasn't working. 758 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,220 He's paid for it through the end of the month. 759 00:44:29,620 --> 00:44:30,620 Where did he get the money? 760 00:44:30,940 --> 00:44:34,200 Should we at least fold his things so they don't get all wrinkled? 761 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,040 I think we're best off just buying him something to wear, Ed. I know, but he 762 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,240 should hang his things up. 763 00:44:39,710 --> 00:44:41,930 He's got a closet. He's got hangers. 764 00:44:42,150 --> 00:44:45,910 He should hang his things up when he takes them off so when he puts them back 765 00:44:45,910 --> 00:44:49,350 again, they don't get all wrinkled. Then he wouldn't have to send them out to be 766 00:44:49,350 --> 00:44:53,070 dry cleaned as much. And they wouldn't look like hell when he puts them back 767 00:44:53,130 --> 00:44:56,990 Hang them up. You get into the habit. When you take them off, you hang them 768 00:44:57,110 --> 00:45:00,410 Stop talking about him as though he's well, as though he's normal. 769 00:45:00,630 --> 00:45:02,690 He's not well. He's not normal. 770 00:45:04,090 --> 00:45:05,670 Okay, assume he's not. 771 00:45:06,500 --> 00:45:10,380 What should we do, Ray? Should we just forget about him? Should we write him 772 00:45:10,380 --> 00:45:13,320 and let him die? Is that what you want to do? Folks, you can't turn on each 773 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,240 other. You know, sometimes I get the feeling that she'd just rather be done 774 00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:19,660 him. I get the feeling that it's too much trouble, that she'd rather not be 775 00:45:19,660 --> 00:45:23,460 bothered. The way he pays for this room is that I send him money. 776 00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:25,720 You do? 777 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:26,880 Yes. 778 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:32,260 So you've known where he's been? I send a money order to a post office box. 779 00:45:32,900 --> 00:45:35,280 I knew he was in L .A. That's all I knew. 780 00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:39,940 Why didn't you say something right? Why didn't you tell me? Because I knew you'd 781 00:45:39,940 --> 00:45:42,160 try to find him. What would have been wrong with that? 782 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,640 Didn't you want to find him? No! 783 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,600 No! I wanted him to have a roof over his head. I wanted him not to starve. 784 00:45:48,660 --> 00:45:50,680 Beyond that, I stopped wanting anything. 785 00:45:51,580 --> 00:45:53,040 Oh, God, help me. 786 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,880 I never wanted to see him again. 65429

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