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JOOST BAKKER: The most
destructive thing
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we humans do is eat...
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..which is madness.
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And it's because we've
got this stupid system
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that doesn't
respect and value waste.
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(MUSIC DRAMATISES)
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We've spent the last
hundred years
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removing ourselves
from our food system
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and I think we need to spend
the next hundred years
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living in our food system
like we've done
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for millions of years.
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The World Bank say
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that between 30 and 40% of the
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food that's actually grown today
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is wasted.
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Nature doesn't have waste.
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A tree that falls down
in this forest,
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it actually creates
all these resources
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for so many other species
to get started again.
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It's a perfect example
of a closed loop system.
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I don't see why a house should
be any different to this.
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I've always had this dream
that our homes
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can be a place that provides us
with everything that we need.
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Imagine if our houses
grew our food.
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Imagine our cities as
ecosystems feeding themselves.
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Imagine if we could
green our homes
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and every family
could feed themselves.
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(MARKER SCRIBBLING)
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It's an occupational hazard,
picking these,
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with all the bees.
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Dad used to love these.
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This is Sedum,
it's a succulent actually.
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We are from a little place
called Obdum,
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which is about 20 minutes
north of Amsterdam,
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well known for growing tulips,
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and that's what my family
did there,
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my grandfather,
my great grandfather,
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and it's really interesting that
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my dad started doing it here.
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These flowers,
I use them when they're green,
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I use them at this stage.
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Obviously,
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they're at their best right now,
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but they're also
really beautiful
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when they completely
darken off.
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I still use them then.
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And I actually suspend them,
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so people walk underneath
clouds of Sedum.
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I've got this from my dad,
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I personally don't believe
in talking about doing stuff.
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I'm a big believer
in doing stuff.
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When people see a physical,
living, breathing example
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of an idea,
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it's much more powerful
than verbalising that idea.
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There's something very powerful
about smelling it,
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seeing it, hearing it,
touching it.
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You walk away and it
leaves you with something
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and it kind of makes you want
to change the way you live.
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(CAR RUMBLES)
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(RHYTHMIC DRUMMING)
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I'm an artist and I understand
that, if it's not desirable,
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if it's not
aesthetically pleasing,
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if people don't love it
and don't want it,
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it won't become an idea
that's mainstream.
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So, I understand it's
critical that it's appealing.
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Ten years ago, florists were
not really into using natives
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and now,
I think it's been really good
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to have, like,
an outsider's perspective
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of how incredible and beautiful
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these amazing plants really are.
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I think I need to put
more water in that.
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Everything that we waste
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in our society and
in our culture today,
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to me is a resource.
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My work has always been
about utilising waste,
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and that led into doing
interiors of restaurants
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and using wasted materials
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and ultimately doing
much larger installations
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again with wasted materials
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and it ultimately
led to restaurants.
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At the end of 2012,
I opened Silo,
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which was the world's first
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completely zero-waste
restaurant.
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And it led to restaurants
all over the world
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implementing change,
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change that really saves an
unbelievable amount of waste,
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even from McDonald's through to some of the
world's best restaurants.
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(PULSATING POP TRACK PLAYS)
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(APPLAUSE)
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Imagine your house growing food
on the roof, on the walls.
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JEREMY McLEOD: I think
the thing about Joost
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is that he's so idealistic
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and he's so fearless
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and it's kind of like this,
you know, crazy naivete,
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you know, where he just says,
here's the vision,
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and it's this
massive, bold vision,
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and then he gets to work on it.
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JOOST: So, I wanna prove
that we can live zero waste
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and, to achieve that,
you need to solve waste
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where most of it is generated
and that's our homes.
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My goal is to build a house
like no-one's ever seen before,
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a house that's inspired
by nature, really,
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a house that doesn't
generate any waste,
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is its own closed system.
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To me, the rules
are really simple.
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If you can't recycle it or if
it's toxic, we can't use it.
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And that rules out about
95% of building materials
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you can normally use.
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And at the end of
the building's life,
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that the whole thing can be
just be easily recycled,
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composted or biodegraded.
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This design, this system,
this building,
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I think it could be a place
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that provides us with everything
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that we need if we do it right.
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Let's change our urban areas,
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our cities, our houses, our
buildings to food systems.
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JEREMY: I think the incredible
thing about Joost
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is he's a florist,
not an architect.
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He thinks like an artist,
not an architect.
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And so he's not
making architecture,
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he's building a system
to live within.
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And he calls it
future food systems.
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(TRUCK BEEPING)
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JOOST: There's so much waste
generated by
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actually getting a site
prepared for a building.
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And there's so much energy
and cost
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that's goes into
the foundations.
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So, I started playing
around with the idea of,
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what about if you build a house
that doesn't need foundations,
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and you can plough that money
into a rooftop garden.
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JEREMY: The way that houses
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have always been
built historically
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is that you put them on stumps
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or on a concrete slab
on the ground.
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But, for every kilogram
of concrete you make,
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you make a kilogram of carbon.
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The incredible thing
about the Greenhouse
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is that it doesn't use
concrete footings.
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Instead, it uses
soil on the roof,
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to weigh the building down.
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This system can be built
in a factory, taken to site,
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the soil can then be loaded on,
and the building is there.
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This is a great solution for
a rapidly urbanising society.
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JOOST: From an engineering
point of view,
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we can't start putting in
windows or cladding it
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because the building
becomes like a sail
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without the soil on the roof
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because it's part
of the engineering.
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That's why that garden
needs to go on immediately.
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(TRUCK RUMBLES)
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How amazing is that
view through there?
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You get to see the MCG
and everything.
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So, the soil is
going on the roof.
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And... so today's
the most exciting day
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of the whole project,
pretty much, for me, anyway.
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And that's what
we plan to garden.
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It'll grow some amazing food.
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As well, the black barrels
are made from recycled plastic,
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so I like using them.
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So, this is a 44-gallon drum.
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So, I've got this thing
about 44-gallon drums -
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the last 100 years
were about oil,
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the next 100 years
are about soil.
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So, I call them
44-gallon soil drums.
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And people say to me
all the time,
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how can you have black barrels
in the middle of summer
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and everything grows so well?
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Because the plants constantly
have access to water.
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And so you don't lose nutrients
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and you don't lose water,
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so the ultimate
zero-waste design.
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(CHALK MARKS OFF)
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You can see how there's
a real science to this.
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(JIGSAW WHIRRING)
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Please put this
in your recycling.
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It's polypropylene,
it gets recycled,
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and there's a huge shortage
of it in Australia.
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This goes in like that.
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Basically, force this in.
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You've got to make sure that
something goes all the way down
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to the bottom, so that
it's always sitting in water.
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And the water will wick out,
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but it can't be synthetic
because it won't wick.
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So if you want... let's say
you're growing watercress,
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you have it all the way
up there,
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you want the water
as high as possible.
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And the water level doesn't
stay like that all the time,
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it's just when you're watering
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and then the plants
start pulling water out.
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And I love that, before
we put any windows in
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or any cladding on or anything,
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the first thing we do
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is put the soil on the roof
and put the garden up.
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I dream that one day
every house is built that way.
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- Yeah, that's good.
- Yep, perfect.
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You can't suddenly
walk up the street
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and throw a little bit
of rubbish in the bin
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because once you do that
you compromise the whole idea,
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and so I think you've got
to have a purist approach.
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Because, once people
see you compromise,
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then they compromise,
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and then suddenly it becomes
a slippery slope.
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All transport companies
want their pallets wrapped.
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Oh, I might go on this side.
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I hate wrap because
you can't recycle it,
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it just ends up in the bin.
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And so someone told me not
that long ago about a guy,
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who is a winemaker,
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he hated that his wine,
his organic wines
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were getting wrapped
in this plastic
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that just ended up
in landfill.
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And so he invented a plastic
wrap made from food waste.
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So, we get to wrap this garden
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in stuff that we can then
compost which is really cool.
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We don't need to be generating
any waste is my philosophy,
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so there's always an
alternative, always a solution.
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No, I'd rather... No.
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But it starts with the soil,
it's all about the soil.
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I know how good the soil is
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so I know stuff will grow
really well.
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I've put really coarse material,
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but also really fine material,
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and I can put my hand into this,
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there's a scrub worm.
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These can go down up to two
and a half, three metres deep.
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I actually reckon this is
probably the most important
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living organism on earth.
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My dad used to say that lots
of worms means happy people.
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I've been mucking around
with soil for about 30 years,
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um, and just copying what's
in the natural environment.
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I always try and have something
from the ocean in it,
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so these are scallop shells
that have been ground up
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and composted and, of course,
worms, you can see here.
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Just a few, eh?
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This is bintje,
my favourite potato.
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The most success I've had
is 34 kilos of potatoes
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from one square metre.
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I's remarkable how much
this will yield.
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And I love this because
the soil's made from waste
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and the barrels
are made from waste.
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(AIRY MUSIC)
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You know, I think everybody
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should have vertical gardens
in their house.
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I think everybody should be
growing a little bit of food
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even if it's a square metre.
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And that's what I hope
will become normal.
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Because, once you start
planting something,
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and you grow something,
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you're connected to the outside
world like never before
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because you start worrying
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about whether
it's going to rain.
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Do I need to water that plant?
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Have we got rain coming
tonight? I better harvest it.
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Time to plant some veggies.
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Suddenly, you're connected
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and then that becomes
the stepping stone.
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(THUNDER RUMBLES)
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Awesome.
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(GENTLE MUSIC)
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Whatever this tree is,
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there's a deciduous tree
here that's dropping leaves
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and it reminds me of
my childhood in Holland.
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We must have had
a similar tree growing.
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What's so exciting about today
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is that everyone's holding
a phone in their hands
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and everyone can
follow the project.
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Have a look at this one.
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That bird sounds so cool,
doesn't it?
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So, as frustrating as it is
for us
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to kind of be building while
these lockdowns are going on,
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people sitting at home,
stuck at home were able to,
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through social media,
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follow the build, watch the
wicking beds being made
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and the soil getting made.
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Saffron cap.
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This is probably
the one that's easiest
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for people to identify but
it's also the most delicious.
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We needed to radically change
everything before COVID
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and I think that people
are more open to it now
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because they've realised
that we can suddenly
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stop going to work, we can
quickly change what we do.
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And that fills me with hope.
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This is a very, very good day.
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That's it, you've just picked
the most perfect one.
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Actually, I like it
when they've got little...
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looks like an artwork.
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So, this is the south
of the building,
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that's why there's no windows,
so there's no sun.
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And, yeah, we've made a ramp
so we can get disability access
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and all that sort of stuff
like that,
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used complete waste
for the ramp.
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So, this is all form ply
that's been
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used many, many times
by concreters.
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You can see some of them might
have been used 15 or 20 times.
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- Yeah.
- We used that form ply...
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Getting things done on time
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has proven to be impossible,
constant lockdowns,
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and it's quite
a stressful situation,
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especially because
I've got two friends
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that have left their jobs
ready to move into this place.
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- Yep, alright?
- Yeah.
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Lean it in. Alright?
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And, you know,
because of the lockdowns,
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we weren't allowed to start
early, either, you know,
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there were very limited hours
that we could work.
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And, then, of course,
it just made it worse
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so the anxiety and the costs
and the blowouts
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and, you know,
all that sort of stuff.
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And, really, you know,
there's only four of us
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working on this
most of the time.
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So, the join on the one behind
is here.
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- Oh, yeah.
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And so luckily for us it's only
a relatively small house.
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JEREMY: Australian houses
have been getting bigger
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and bigger and bigger,
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so, in the last hundred years,
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our houses have got four times
bigger than they used to be.
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You know, these houses
are over 200 square metres.
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Joost's Greenhouse is under
90 square metres,
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so it's less than half the size
of that,
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and the single biggest
carbon emitter on this planet
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is buildings,
is the built environment.
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It gives us a carbon problem
at construction,
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and it gives us a carbon problem
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for, you know, the operational
life of the building.
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You know, it's time
that we all just, uh,
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used a little less space and
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build a little bit more quality.
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JOOST: This is the last straw.
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COLLEAGUE: This Joost at, what
is it, a quarter past seven,
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more hay in his hair
than there is hair.
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I love this stuff.
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(LAUGHTER)
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What can I say?
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Well, I'm a bit of a sucker
for straw.
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All my past projects
have used straw
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just bailed the way
that farmers sell it.
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But, in the new project,
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I use a compressed panel that's
made in Bendigo since 1952.
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This panel was very popular
in the '60s and '70s
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and then it became, like,
this hippy product
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and people started
designing it out.
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And I'm trying to
resurrect the product
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and bring it back
and make it more popular
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so that every building
is made with it
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because it's really
easily recycled.
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And it's completely
made from waste.
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(UPLIFTING MUSIC)
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So, for every kilo of oats,
rice, wheat, barley,
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we produce a kilo of straw,
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and there's a hundred million
farmers
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that produce it every year.
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more than enough material to
make all of our toilet paper,
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copy paper, cardboard.
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And yet we're cutting
down trees for toilet paper.
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27,000 trees are cut down every
day just to make toilet paper.
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And at the same time farmers
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are burning straw
to get rid of it.
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Private farmers are sitting
on an untapped resource,
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in my opinion.
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There's huge potential
industry here
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to use agricultural waste
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that could go into paper
and particle board.
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We use straw on the walls,
there's straw on the ceiling,
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so you get this
beautifully insulated wall
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that is made with the material
that's most wasted on earth
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and, best of all,
when it's tight and compact,
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the straw in itself
is very fire resistant
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which makes it
even more amazing.
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(JIGSAW WHIRRS)
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And, of course,
any waste can just be
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either composted or biodegraded.
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- Is this barley?
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JOOST: Oats.
- Oats.
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A bit late
but they'll still be fine.
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The most important element
in soil is air.
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Soil life is no different to us,
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the number one thing
that they need is air.
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- Wow!
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- You watch...
- It looks so healthy!
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Once you've got air,
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then all of the
microflora and bacteria
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can thrive.
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And then the goal, the magic...
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And carbon, charcoal, is a
permanent home for microflora.
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This is biochar and I always
mix this into the soil,
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this is carbon
and it stays in the soil
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for hundreds and hundreds
of years,
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and just mix it all through.
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RUSSELL BURNETT:
Biochar is highly porous.
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Its surface area is huge.
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If you've got a gram of
just ordinary biochar
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from a woody material,
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it will have the surface area
of a tennis court, it's huge.
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And, because it's so porous,
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it's like a housing complex
for soil microbes.
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We'll use anything
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that's basically a dry, organic
material - wood chips,
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shells, nuts, grape marc,
residue from the hemp industry,
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if it's a dry,
considered a waste material,
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which you'd normally
burn, shred it,
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put it through a continuous
pyrolysis process like this.
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Beautiful, it's win-win.
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JOOST: What happens
with biochar is
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you're burning without oxygen,
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so there's no smoke,
there's no emissions.
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If you burnt it in a fire,
it would turn to ash,
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and you'd lose it,
but when you're turning it
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into charcoal, it's a great way
to store carbon.
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We know of charcoal
that's thousands of years old
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from fires from
2 or 3 thousand years ago,
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so it stays in the soil
for a long time.
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RUSSELL: When we make
our biochar,
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we leave a few little goodies
in there.
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We don't cook the crap
out of it.
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It's got some of these
pyroligneous compounds,
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these acids and foods for soil
microbes and plants, as well.
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Once it goes in the soil
and the biology sees
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this wonderful housing complex,
bingo, they explode.
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- Wow.
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- There you go.
- Yeah.
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RUSSELL: Because it's based
around this beautiful
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complex fixed carbon matrix,
it's like compost for life.
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You get the same wonderful
effect you get from compost
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but it's never-ending
and it just gets better.
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PHOTOGRAPHER: Five, four,
three, two, one.
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JOOST: Welcome to
our first livestream,
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FutureFoodSystem livestream.
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I'm really excited
to have Jeremy here,
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who's a real architect,
unlike me,
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and we're going to
take you through
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all the different elements
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that have made this building
what it is today.
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We've got a tiny little roof
up the top,
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which is... I've calculated
is enough for drinking water
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for a year, so all the water
off the solar panels
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on the roof will be used
for drinking and cooking
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and that sort of thing
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and that's what this
stainless steel tank is for.
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JEREMY: So, it seems like
your whole frame is all steel,
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no concrete,so I guess the goal is at
the end of all this, Joost,
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that you can recycle
the entire building,
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the whole frame, everything.
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- Yep.
- Yep. Zero waste.
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JOOST: Well, as you know,
I'm obsessed with zero waste,
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so, if you can't recycle it,
I don't want it.
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- Yeah.
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This building, what most people
say when they walk in,
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they go, "It doesn't smell
like a house at all."
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And that's because we haven't
used any glues, resins,
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coatings, paints,
any synthetic materials,
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it's just all natural materials.
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JEREMY: It smells
like Apollo Bay,
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that's what it smells like.
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The cypress macrocarpa.
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JOOST: Well, I'm really proud
of the fact
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that there's not one stick of
FSC timber in this building,
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so everything's come
from a farm.
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So, FSC,
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it's Forest
Stewardship Council.
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You'll find it on copy paper,
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toilet paper, on everything
that's made from wood chips.
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It's a body that was set up
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to give us confidence in knowing
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that it's sustainable timber.
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20 years ago, Jenny, my wife,
and I went into the Amazon,
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and, flying over the Amazon,
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we saw the clearing and the
logging that was going on,
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which was so disappointing
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because we went deep
into the Amazon
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and we saw how diverse
and beautiful it was.
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I noticed a place
that was cutting timber
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and it was obvious that
the timber came from
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an old-growth forest,
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and every piece of timber
had an FSC stamp on it.
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And that made me think,
"Hang on,
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"isn't that supposed to be
sustainable timber,
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"isn't that supposed to be
coming from a non-wild source?"
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So, I can't support wild forest
getting turned into FSC timber.
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(TENSE MUSIC)
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Everyone talks about
monoculture forest,
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plantation timber.
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It's clearly a beautiful setting
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but this is possibly the worst
form of locking up land.
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This is the most profitable
form of forestry,
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planting the same species
the same distance apart,
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all the same age, en masse.
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What it does is it
basically wipes out
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any chance of competition,
they grow really quickly,
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they're really uniform,
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they're all planted
the same distance apart,
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they're all the same age
and there's no chance
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for an understory.
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You can see there's nothing
growing underneath here.
499
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:24,160
There's no plants, there's no
wildlife, there's no insects,
500
00:28:24,190 --> 00:28:27,600
there's no birds, there's nothing that lives
in this monoculture.
501
00:28:33,150 --> 00:28:36,060
(BIRD CALLS)
502
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,290
We've walked through
an old-growth forest
503
00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:42,620
and the biodiversity just
under your feet is incredible.
504
00:28:42,650 --> 00:28:44,750
The amount of different species
505
00:28:44,770 --> 00:28:47,770
of fungus and ferns and grasses.
506
00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:51,370
None of that exists here.
507
00:28:51,390 --> 00:28:52,660
In my eyes, this is dead.
508
00:28:52,690 --> 00:28:55,710
There's no life here and, sadly,
509
00:28:55,730 --> 00:29:00,310
this is the most common form
of forestry globally.
510
00:29:00,390 --> 00:29:01,750
We don't need to be doing this,
511
00:29:01,770 --> 00:29:04,400
we could be getting our timber
from farmers.
512
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:09,290
FARMER: That... I planted
that tree, this thing here.
513
00:29:09,310 --> 00:29:13,370
I've harvested it,
it's all in furniture.
514
00:29:13,390 --> 00:29:16,370
That was only 25 years old.
515
00:29:16,390 --> 00:29:19,660
JOOST: A lot of people have
heard the term agroforestry,
516
00:29:19,690 --> 00:29:22,660
and that basically means
that farmers,
517
00:29:22,690 --> 00:29:24,620
who normally farm sheep or
518
00:29:24,650 --> 00:29:27,370
grain or other crops,
plant trees.
519
00:29:27,390 --> 00:29:29,750
And those trees are actually
planted for harvesting
520
00:29:29,770 --> 00:29:33,290
but those trees also provide
shade and wind protection
521
00:29:33,310 --> 00:29:33,710
for livestock
522
00:29:33,730 --> 00:29:36,370
or they'll stop erosion
in waterways,
523
00:29:36,390 --> 00:29:38,580
and agroforestry is
about planting trees
524
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,160
to stop that erosion but then,
also, ultimately, for profit
525
00:29:42,190 --> 00:29:45,400
so that you do get to
harvest those trees.
526
00:29:45,850 --> 00:29:50,120
It's estimated that most farms
have between 15-20%
527
00:29:50,150 --> 00:29:52,120
of their land
that's unproductive
528
00:29:52,150 --> 00:29:53,540
and is able to have trees.
529
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,370
FARMER: This is what
we got out of it.
530
00:29:55,390 --> 00:29:58,160
You can see the colour
of the timber, beautiful.
531
00:29:58,190 --> 00:30:00,750
JOOST: I believe that we
need to support farmers
532
00:30:00,770 --> 00:30:04,370
in planting trees but don't
just pay them to plant trees,
533
00:30:04,390 --> 00:30:08,250
we need to pay them ongoing
to maintain that tree
534
00:30:08,270 --> 00:30:10,160
so that, over the next 10 years,
535
00:30:10,190 --> 00:30:13,400
we build a really sustainable
timber industry.
536
00:30:13,730 --> 00:30:17,370
We've got a huge land mass
and we've got the potential
537
00:30:17,390 --> 00:30:18,580
to grow billions of trees
538
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,410
and create habitat and
restore the environment
539
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,660
at the same time.
540
00:30:22,690 --> 00:30:24,730
So, it's a win-win.
541
00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:32,160
Every single bit of timber
has come from a farm.
542
00:30:32,190 --> 00:30:35,270
Nothing has come from
a monoculture.
543
00:30:38,690 --> 00:30:42,330
Hey, Andrew,
the kitchen's too big, mate.
544
00:30:42,350 --> 00:30:43,600
- Really?
545
00:30:44,390 --> 00:30:46,160
Nah, it's unreal.
546
00:30:46,190 --> 00:30:48,230
Unreal.
547
00:30:49,390 --> 00:30:53,370
Everything was really, I
suppose, a lot more considered
548
00:30:53,390 --> 00:30:57,210
and it probably wasn't as rough.
549
00:30:57,230 --> 00:31:01,120
62 plus 70.
So, that'll be fine...
550
00:31:01,150 --> 00:31:04,370
Like, all my other work was
made from recycled materials
551
00:31:04,390 --> 00:31:08,370
so you'd bang, you know, sheets
of ply from a packing crate
552
00:31:08,390 --> 00:31:09,330
from caterpillar on the wall
553
00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:12,370
or, you know, everything was
made from recycled materials.
554
00:31:12,390 --> 00:31:13,250
This is the first project
555
00:31:13,270 --> 00:31:15,290
where everything is made
from new materials.
556
00:31:15,310 --> 00:31:18,790
Because I wanted it
to be an idea
557
00:31:18,810 --> 00:31:21,390
that was available
to the masses.
558
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,290
So, my approach was
make it from materials
559
00:31:24,310 --> 00:31:27,330
that are ubiquitous,
anyone can access,
560
00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:29,290
anywhere in the world,
561
00:31:29,310 --> 00:31:31,160
but create a paradigm shift,
562
00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:33,370
you know, the whole using straw,
563
00:31:33,390 --> 00:31:36,250
not using PVC,
not using toxic glues,
564
00:31:36,270 --> 00:31:38,390
not using monoculture timber.
565
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,250
- So I need a table that's...
- A long bench?
566
00:31:42,270 --> 00:31:46,370
And because the projects
that I do are open source,
567
00:31:46,390 --> 00:31:48,370
it makes it very easy
to collaborate
568
00:31:48,390 --> 00:31:50,160
and people feel
really comfortable
569
00:31:50,190 --> 00:31:51,710
putting their ideas forward.
570
00:31:51,730 --> 00:31:52,660
- It all works.
571
00:31:52,690 --> 00:31:53,750
- At least you can just put a
572
00:31:53,770 --> 00:31:55,210
few other timber chopping boards
573
00:31:55,230 --> 00:31:59,370
on that and use it as a... And that's always been
my approach and so it becomes
574
00:31:59,390 --> 00:32:03,370
like this creative project
where it constantly evolves.
575
00:32:03,390 --> 00:32:06,730
(UPBEAT MUSIC)
576
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,870
MATT STONE:
Yeah, it's all very well
577
00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:13,250
to talk about
these sort of things,
578
00:32:13,270 --> 00:32:15,790
but, if you can't use the
produce that we're talking
579
00:32:15,810 --> 00:32:18,830
about growing sustainably,
producing sustainably,
580
00:32:18,850 --> 00:32:21,450
it sort of doesn't really
back up the values
581
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,370
that we try to spread,
582
00:32:22,390 --> 00:32:26,370
so I think it's important
to practice what we preach.
583
00:32:26,390 --> 00:32:29,620
I've known Joost for
at least 10 years
584
00:32:29,650 --> 00:32:32,370
since we did the
Greenhouse project in Perth,
585
00:32:32,390 --> 00:32:35,870
and every restaurant-based
installation he's done
586
00:32:35,900 --> 00:32:39,500
since then I've been the
foolish guy to help execute it.
587
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,540
Which has been a really
interesting journey
588
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,370
and through that time,
589
00:32:42,390 --> 00:32:44,790
I think there's been
a lot of learnings,
590
00:32:44,810 --> 00:32:47,390
a lot of trial and error.
591
00:32:50,390 --> 00:32:53,370
JO: I like the challenge
to find something new
592
00:32:53,390 --> 00:32:55,370
and, even though
we're in the world
593
00:32:55,390 --> 00:32:56,370
of hospitality and cooking,
594
00:32:56,390 --> 00:32:58,710
and that's what we do
on a daily basis,
595
00:32:58,730 --> 00:33:00,790
I think we've come to a time,
596
00:33:00,810 --> 00:33:02,540
like, a realisation for everyone
597
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,350
that something has to change.
598
00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:11,500
MATT: We're leaving
the restaurant world
599
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,540
for a little bit,
I generally love it,
600
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,710
so I'll be back at some stage,
601
00:33:14,730 --> 00:33:16,080
but we're just gonna
build this house,
602
00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:19,620
getting to know
how it's all come together,
603
00:33:19,650 --> 00:33:20,830
troubleshooting as we go,
604
00:33:20,850 --> 00:33:23,330
then grow some food,
then move in
605
00:33:23,350 --> 00:33:25,370
and just make
a modern urban cuisine
606
00:33:25,390 --> 00:33:26,370
out of food that's grown on a
607
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,400
house in the middle of the city.
608
00:33:30,650 --> 00:33:31,370
JO: I think living in it
609
00:33:31,390 --> 00:33:34,580
and really figuring out how
to get it to work properly
610
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,410
for people is important
611
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,390
and we're interested
in learning, as well.
612
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,910
MATT: We're taking, you know,
613
00:33:42,940 --> 00:33:44,540
near 20 years of
culinary experience
614
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,960
working across Australia
and around the world
615
00:33:46,980 --> 00:33:49,370
into this tiny, little, unique
new concept.
616
00:33:49,390 --> 00:33:52,080
It's not very often
you get that opportunity
617
00:33:52,100 --> 00:33:53,040
as a chef to do something
618
00:33:53,060 --> 00:33:55,520
that's truly new
and truly unique.
619
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:58,330
If we were asked what our
dream situation would be
620
00:33:58,350 --> 00:34:02,370
in our careers, this is
pretty much it, it's exciting,
621
00:34:02,390 --> 00:34:03,450
it's new, it's got meaning
622
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,620
and it's going to be delicious,
you know,
623
00:34:05,650 --> 00:34:06,540
I'm really confident we're
624
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:07,370
gonna create some delicious food
625
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,620
that people will go, "Wow,"
full of flavour and delicious,
626
00:34:10,650 --> 00:34:12,790
and it came from here,
this tiny little box
627
00:34:12,810 --> 00:34:14,620
in the middle of, you know,
Federation Square,
628
00:34:14,650 --> 00:34:17,410
like, that's just so exciting,
that's so cool.
629
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,710
- Alright. We'll...
630
00:34:19,730 --> 00:34:22,650
We might just move this one.
631
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,960
(LIVELY MUSIC)
632
00:34:29,980 --> 00:34:31,960
JOOST: So, we've got
this insane system
633
00:34:31,980 --> 00:34:34,410
that harvests fish out of
the ocean, grinds them up,
634
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,450
pelletises them and then sends
them all around the world
635
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:38,900
to fish farms.
636
00:34:39,730 --> 00:34:42,580
That to me is beyond belief.
637
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,660
So, I'm a big believer
that our urban environment
638
00:34:45,690 --> 00:34:49,940
can easily provide us
with more than enough fish.
639
00:34:51,650 --> 00:34:52,370
So, a city like Melbourne,
640
00:34:52,390 --> 00:34:55,830
I believe, could have over a
million micro aquaponic systems
641
00:34:55,850 --> 00:34:58,080
producing more fish
than we can possibly eat.
642
00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:00,370
- Beautiful-looking fish,
aren't they?
643
00:35:00,390 --> 00:35:00,830
- Yeah.
644
00:35:00,850 --> 00:35:03,190
- Oh, they look so happy.
- Yeah.
645
00:35:03,390 --> 00:35:07,210
So, that's how it is,
have a look underneath there.
646
00:35:07,230 --> 00:35:09,440
Beautiful blue yabbies.
647
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:10,620
The way we've set it up,
648
00:35:10,650 --> 00:35:13,370
we've added another element
which is yabbies,
649
00:35:13,390 --> 00:35:14,960
which sit in a separate tank
650
00:35:14,980 --> 00:35:16,370
because the fish and the yabbies
651
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:21,390
will often eat each other,
so we've got them separated.
652
00:35:22,810 --> 00:35:23,790
JO: You know when they came in,
653
00:35:23,810 --> 00:35:27,440
and one had its arm,
like, its claw missing?
654
00:35:27,940 --> 00:35:29,120
Do they become territorial?
655
00:35:29,150 --> 00:35:31,980
- They do, yeah,
they're really territorial.
656
00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:36,000
JO: I didn't expect to
learn as much as I have
657
00:35:36,020 --> 00:35:36,580
around aquaponics.
658
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,120
It's something that Matt and I
have done before
659
00:35:40,150 --> 00:35:41,830
but this was a lot bigger.
660
00:35:41,850 --> 00:35:45,040
So, with this one, right,
in here,
661
00:35:45,060 --> 00:35:47,910
so this is called
an auto siphon,
662
00:35:47,940 --> 00:35:51,210
so what it does is...
663
00:35:51,230 --> 00:35:53,750
Matt Stone, Matt Stone,
you should listen to this.
664
00:35:53,770 --> 00:35:55,160
MATT: Yeah.
(CHUCKLES)
665
00:35:55,190 --> 00:35:55,710
- And that air...
666
00:35:55,730 --> 00:35:59,370
JOOST: Jo, she's a sponge
and, like, she doesn't sleep.
667
00:35:59,390 --> 00:36:03,250
She just will Google stuff,
research stuff, buys books
668
00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:06,370
and then, within a very short
time, she knows more about it
669
00:36:06,390 --> 00:36:10,750
than I do. It's awesome, you know,
and that's a real joy
670
00:36:10,770 --> 00:36:12,450
when you're working with
someone like that,
671
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,000
who's so passionate about it.
672
00:36:14,020 --> 00:36:17,190
JO: I love when it's
something so simple.
673
00:36:17,390 --> 00:36:23,000
Yeah, so basically fish poo
with turn into plant food.
674
00:36:23,020 --> 00:36:27,290
So, this bit of rock,
compared to a bit of bluestone
675
00:36:27,310 --> 00:36:28,580
or whatever that you would see,
676
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,620
this has got, like, ten times
the surface area.
677
00:36:30,650 --> 00:36:33,540
Because it's got all those
little nooks and crannies,
678
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,540
those little holes, so
the bacteria live in there
679
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,810
and they convert the ammonia
into plant food.
680
00:36:43,270 --> 00:36:46,850
(MARKER SCRIBBLING)
681
00:37:09,390 --> 00:37:12,370
All those little holes
are full of bacteria.
682
00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:16,600
- So it's full of life.
- Correct, yep, exactly.
683
00:37:16,810 --> 00:37:18,290
It's just living like the soil.
684
00:37:18,310 --> 00:37:20,710
JO: Isn't it amazing? Like,
it's always the same concept.
685
00:37:20,730 --> 00:37:24,540
No matter if it's, like,
a wicking bed or soil or...
686
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,270
- Yeah, yeah.
687
00:37:26,770 --> 00:37:27,410
Yeah, it's really cool.
688
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,580
JOOST: The aquaponic system
is really mimicking nature.
689
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,120
The fish generate waste.
690
00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:36,870
That waste gets fed
to the plants,
691
00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:38,750
and then it also
filters the water
692
00:37:38,770 --> 00:37:39,410
and cleans it out again.
693
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,450
That's why the plants in an
aquaponic system look so lush
694
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:48,730
and green, because the fish thrive
and make that system thrive.
695
00:37:48,850 --> 00:37:51,830
But we can't have a million
micro aquaponic systems
696
00:37:51,850 --> 00:37:55,370
in Melbourne if we're reliant
on ocean-harvested fish
697
00:37:55,390 --> 00:37:56,850
to feed them.
698
00:37:57,390 --> 00:37:58,370
We met a marine biologist
699
00:37:58,390 --> 00:38:03,710
who had done a study on fish
food and she just said to me,
700
00:38:03,730 --> 00:38:04,620
"I don't know if you realise
701
00:38:04,650 --> 00:38:08,080
"but worms are the most
perfect food for fish,
702
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:10,790
"they contain everything
a fish needs to thrive."
703
00:38:10,810 --> 00:38:12,660
And so that was a game-changer,
I just went,
704
00:38:12,690 --> 00:38:16,370
well, that makes so much sense,
we just put our organic waste
705
00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:18,790
that we have left over at
the end, feed it to worms,
706
00:38:18,810 --> 00:38:21,500
and then we harvest the worms
and feed them to the fish.
707
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,660
It's the ultimate closed system.
708
00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:26,730
(WATER CASCADING)
709
00:38:34,940 --> 00:38:35,870
JO: I was really looking
710
00:38:35,900 --> 00:38:37,620
forward to just
launching into it,
711
00:38:37,650 --> 00:38:40,960
like, moving in, cooking,
and Joost kept saying,
712
00:38:40,980 --> 00:38:44,370
"We're two weeks away, we're
two weeks away moving in,"
713
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:45,830
and then it's not.
714
00:38:45,850 --> 00:38:52,390
We've got beans, we've
got zucchini, rocket.
715
00:38:54,730 --> 00:38:55,540
Many, many oats.
716
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,620
We already had started
harvesting beans
717
00:38:57,650 --> 00:39:00,540
because the garden was
kinda producing food
718
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,370
before the house was finished.
719
00:39:01,390 --> 00:39:05,370
So it's kind of frustrating,
we wanted to use that stuff.
720
00:39:05,390 --> 00:39:06,620
(JO AND MATT LAUGH)
721
00:39:06,650 --> 00:39:08,790
So, you know, all these
exciting things
722
00:39:08,810 --> 00:39:10,750
you just want to
take advantage of,
723
00:39:10,770 --> 00:39:15,230
but it's not finished
to be able to do it.
724
00:39:18,730 --> 00:39:21,710
Everything is just
Joost pioneering
725
00:39:21,730 --> 00:39:23,370
and trying to do things
the correct way
726
00:39:23,390 --> 00:39:27,080
and, like, who knew that
doing the correct thing
727
00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:29,350
would actually be so difficult?
728
00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:31,870
MATT: It was just frustrating
729
00:39:31,900 --> 00:39:35,620
because we just can't get in,
so we just want to get rolling
730
00:39:35,650 --> 00:39:37,910
and get cooking and
work with the space
731
00:39:37,940 --> 00:39:43,120
because its's a very intimate,
small, unique space to work in
732
00:39:43,150 --> 00:39:45,830
so, after cooking
in large kitchens
733
00:39:45,850 --> 00:39:47,370
with a large team
for so many years,
734
00:39:47,390 --> 00:39:51,850
to adapt what you think
might work and might not work.
735
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:57,370
JO: I love this.
736
00:39:57,390 --> 00:40:00,160
I know, it's insane, isn't it?
737
00:40:00,190 --> 00:40:01,370
JOOST: Matt and Jo
have left their jobs
738
00:40:01,390 --> 00:40:04,290
so they're really reliant on
this project getting finished
739
00:40:04,310 --> 00:40:07,210
and we are now at least
eight weeks behind,
740
00:40:07,230 --> 00:40:09,620
and so we've decided
have it as a building site,
741
00:40:09,650 --> 00:40:13,020
get some people through,
have our first event.
742
00:40:15,770 --> 00:40:16,330
MATT: Sick.
743
00:40:16,350 --> 00:40:18,370
WOMAN: Today still doesn't
quite feel real.
744
00:40:18,390 --> 00:40:20,160
MATT: I feel nervous
for no reason,
745
00:40:20,190 --> 00:40:21,160
like, I'm not cooking
or anything,
746
00:40:21,190 --> 00:40:23,370
we're just using the space,
but it's the first time...
747
00:40:23,390 --> 00:40:25,250
I mean, we've had
friends through and stuff
748
00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:25,910
but it's the first time,
749
00:40:25,940 --> 00:40:28,710
like, hospo crew are going
to see it and come through.
750
00:40:28,730 --> 00:40:30,660
It's obviously
nowhere near finished.
751
00:40:30,690 --> 00:40:36,370
And, like, we're funding it
all so we need to make money.
752
00:40:36,390 --> 00:40:37,870
Like, if we're doing it,
you know...
753
00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:40,290
It's the first time
I haven't had a full-time job
754
00:40:40,310 --> 00:40:42,390
in a long time, it's scary.
755
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,060
We'll have power
in five minutes.
756
00:40:45,350 --> 00:40:48,830
- We were, like, fully planning
to be finished and built...
757
00:40:48,850 --> 00:40:49,500
- What were you doing?
758
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,580
- Well, we couldn't have
any builders here,
759
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,830
that was the problem, and all of our supplies
took forever
760
00:40:53,850 --> 00:40:56,370
because no-one was working
and it's just blown out,
761
00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:59,000
like, it should've
been finished ages,
762
00:40:59,020 --> 00:41:00,390
like, months ago.
763
00:41:06,100 --> 00:41:09,160
JOOST: I'm still hoping
to achieve being open
764
00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:11,370
by the end of this year but
765
00:41:11,390 --> 00:41:15,230
it's a crazy situation but yeah.
766
00:41:32,730 --> 00:41:35,710
One of the things that I love
the most about the building
767
00:41:35,730 --> 00:41:38,040
is that you walk in
and you can smell it,
768
00:41:38,060 --> 00:41:39,960
it's a combination
of the plants growing,
769
00:41:39,980 --> 00:41:45,000
the water trickling and
the fish are at the very top
770
00:41:45,020 --> 00:41:48,250
and you could just smell
that ecosystem coming down
771
00:41:48,270 --> 00:41:50,750
which is very reminiscent
of walking into a forest
772
00:41:50,770 --> 00:41:53,060
and walking along a creek.
773
00:41:55,230 --> 00:41:57,830
JO: Our solar panels
weren't connected at the time
774
00:41:57,850 --> 00:42:02,390
and power was shorting out
quite often.
775
00:42:03,850 --> 00:42:05,250
We thought we were on top
of everything,
776
00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:07,370
and we weren't staying here,
there was no bed.
777
00:42:07,390 --> 00:42:08,450
The bedrooms weren't even
finished.
778
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,370
So, the fish looked like
they would be OK,
779
00:42:11,390 --> 00:42:15,390
the water was pumping again
and we went home.
780
00:42:18,060 --> 00:42:18,910
I walked in and I could smell
781
00:42:18,940 --> 00:42:21,040
there was something out of
balance, it wasn't right,
782
00:42:21,060 --> 00:42:24,980
so I ran upstairs and I saw
that some fish had died.
783
00:42:27,390 --> 00:42:28,370
JO: It was very emotional,
784
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:33,160
and I felt very riddled with
guilt that we had introduced
785
00:42:33,190 --> 00:42:38,790
animals into this home and we'd
killed them for no reason.
786
00:42:38,810 --> 00:42:40,830
And I guess part of this
787
00:42:40,850 --> 00:42:43,790
project is to share
those troubles
788
00:42:43,810 --> 00:42:48,400
but we weren't living here so
I don't know if we were ready.
789
00:42:51,390 --> 00:42:55,330
I was very hesitant to bring
back fish so we decided
790
00:42:55,350 --> 00:42:58,370
that we wouldn't do anything
for a couple of weeks
791
00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:59,040
and then Joost was like,
792
00:42:59,060 --> 00:43:02,060
no, we've just gotta get fish
back in here.
793
00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:05,960
JOOST: It just shows that
that ecosystem
794
00:43:05,980 --> 00:43:07,000
is reliant on human tenants
795
00:43:07,020 --> 00:43:10,830
as much as nature is reliant
on all the different elements
796
00:43:10,850 --> 00:43:12,520
that make that work.
797
00:43:19,230 --> 00:43:20,370
JEREMY: So this is
your battery wall?
798
00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:23,370
JOOST: Batteries are a disaster
when it comes to recycling,
799
00:43:23,390 --> 00:43:24,250
they're difficult to recycle,
800
00:43:24,270 --> 00:43:26,250
so I've just been researching
and researching
801
00:43:26,270 --> 00:43:29,520
and then I came across
nickel ion batteries.
802
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,870
- So, OK, I've bought these
in a scrap metal yard,
803
00:43:40,900 --> 00:43:41,910
a dollar apiece sort of thing,
804
00:43:41,940 --> 00:43:46,500
brought them home, my father
used to do a bit of solar panel
805
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,450
installation, he didn't think
they would suit a solar panel,
806
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,450
so I never put solar panels in
until after he'd died
807
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,120
and then after he'd died,
I thought, well,
808
00:43:57,150 --> 00:43:59,210
I just started doing
my own homework
809
00:43:59,230 --> 00:44:01,410
and couldn't see why they
wouldn't work,
810
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:02,370
so I bought a panel.
811
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,370
- Yeah. And it's worked for you?
812
00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:07,290
- It worked perfectly
so I thought, right,
813
00:44:07,310 --> 00:44:09,250
so I just started buying more.
814
00:44:09,270 --> 00:44:09,960
- Wow.
815
00:44:09,980 --> 00:44:11,250
- And they were fitted to
816
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:13,080
submarines during the
Second World War.
817
00:44:13,100 --> 00:44:15,330
I believe they were incredibly
expensive at the time
818
00:44:15,350 --> 00:44:18,370
and that's why no-one else
could do anything with them
819
00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:21,580
as far as
alternative power goes.
820
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,540
JOOST: Love it, it's awesome.
821
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,160
I just can't believe
that these batteries
822
00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:28,660
are from World War 2 and
you're still using them today.
823
00:44:28,690 --> 00:44:29,450
- Oh, yes.
824
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,370
- Oh, I reckon it's
a game-changer.
825
00:44:31,390 --> 00:44:33,370
- They're very rough
and crude looking.
826
00:44:33,390 --> 00:44:36,250
This is all salt building up
around the hinges,
827
00:44:36,270 --> 00:44:36,960
- Yeah.
828
00:44:36,980 --> 00:44:39,540
- See, there's one
that's very stiff.
829
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:40,390
- Yeah.
830
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,080
They've been like that for 30
years and it doesn't matter.
831
00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:45,370
- That is insane.
- Yes.
832
00:44:45,390 --> 00:44:47,330
- And still functioning the way
833
00:44:47,350 --> 00:44:48,960
that they were
originally designed.
834
00:44:48,980 --> 00:44:50,370
JOOST: The thing
that inspires me
835
00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:53,370
and excites me
is this constant connection
836
00:44:53,390 --> 00:44:54,910
with brilliant people.
837
00:44:54,940 --> 00:44:56,370
- It's minimalist.
- Yeah.
838
00:44:56,390 --> 00:45:00,370
And that's what projects
like this have always done.
839
00:45:00,390 --> 00:45:02,120
- They're magnets.
- Mm.
840
00:45:02,150 --> 00:45:03,370
You know, I didn't...
841
00:45:03,390 --> 00:45:06,000
Most of the crazy ideas
just come about
842
00:45:06,020 --> 00:45:07,250
because you're just a magnet
843
00:45:07,270 --> 00:45:08,370
for a whole bunch
of crazy people.
844
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:11,330
And then you're just like,
"why don't we do it that way?"
845
00:45:11,350 --> 00:45:13,370
This battery here
is 100 years old
846
00:45:13,390 --> 00:45:17,660
and still works, as good
as the day that it was made.
847
00:45:17,690 --> 00:45:19,620
This is a battery
that can be recycled
848
00:45:19,650 --> 00:45:21,080
but it probably never will be.
849
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:22,410
Like, my grandchildren will have
850
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,450
these batteries in their houses.
851
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:25,370
JEREMY: Incredible.
852
00:45:25,390 --> 00:45:27,620
And so tell us how
you charge these,
853
00:45:27,650 --> 00:45:28,450
like, have you got solar?
854
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,080
- Yeah, just solar, so South
Australian-made solar panels.
855
00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:33,330
- So Australian-made solar.
856
00:45:33,350 --> 00:45:35,750
JEREMY: So, we've got
climate change,
857
00:45:35,770 --> 00:45:37,370
we've got a warming planet,
858
00:45:37,390 --> 00:45:40,370
we've also got
an urbanising planet.
859
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:42,210
The big thing is
this thing called
860
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:43,370
the urban heat island effect.
861
00:45:43,390 --> 00:45:47,250
And what that means is that,
when you have lots of asphalt,
862
00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:50,120
which is black,
lots of concrete,
863
00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:52,370
and then the sun is
beating down on that,
864
00:45:52,390 --> 00:45:56,370
it absorbs that heat
and it retains the heat.
865
00:45:56,390 --> 00:45:59,370
And so, for Joost, basically,
866
00:45:59,390 --> 00:46:03,250
instead of having a black roof
which absorbs heat,
867
00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:04,660
he's got solar panels,
868
00:46:04,690 --> 00:46:07,500
which take the sun and
converts it to electricity,
869
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,750
and then he's got plants,
and plants help cool the house
870
00:46:11,770 --> 00:46:15,660
and plants absorb the sun
and, through photosynthesis,
871
00:46:15,690 --> 00:46:19,250
turn it into food
for the occupants,
872
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:22,410
so it's a solution
873
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,580
that, in dense cities, we're
all going to have to look to.
874
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,520
(TOOLS WHIRRING)
875
00:46:41,390 --> 00:46:43,830
JOHN FORD:
So, you've got air in.
876
00:46:43,850 --> 00:46:45,080
You're gonna sort the air out,
877
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:46,620
so, as I say,
draw it from the base
878
00:46:46,650 --> 00:46:48,330
'cause carbon dioxide
will sink to the bottom.
879
00:46:48,350 --> 00:46:51,370
You want a continual flow, you
want moving air all the time.
880
00:46:51,390 --> 00:46:53,250
I think that's the first mistake
881
00:46:53,270 --> 00:46:53,830
that a lot of people make
882
00:46:53,850 --> 00:46:56,370
with mushrooms because they
think they grow in caves,
883
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,790
they grow in the dark
with no air movement
884
00:46:58,810 --> 00:46:59,450
and they do their thing,
885
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,660
but most of the mushrooms
don't want to do that.
886
00:47:01,690 --> 00:47:04,370
They don't grow in caves,
they grow in forests
887
00:47:04,390 --> 00:47:05,660
and they want to find the light,
888
00:47:05,690 --> 00:47:07,450
they want to find
that fresh air, right?
889
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:08,830
So, that's where
they want to go.
890
00:47:08,850 --> 00:47:10,370
So, the most... Yeah, as I say,
891
00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:12,370
the two things
we're talking about today
892
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:13,710
and trying to get right is
air flow,
893
00:47:13,730 --> 00:47:15,830
because we need
lots of fresh air,
894
00:47:15,850 --> 00:47:16,580
and we need humidity.
895
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,370
Right, and so
that's the next step.
896
00:47:18,390 --> 00:47:20,370
- OK, let's talk about
humidity, then.
897
00:47:20,390 --> 00:47:21,980
- Absolutely, let's do it.
898
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:27,290
- Take this off.
899
00:47:27,310 --> 00:47:29,250
JOHN: So, basically, this is
going to fill with water
900
00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:31,580
to a certain amount and then
underneath here is a big fan,
901
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,250
a big plastic fan, and
a really strong motor in there.
902
00:47:34,270 --> 00:47:36,370
It basically creates
a sucking action,
903
00:47:36,390 --> 00:47:37,790
it sucks the water up
through here.
904
00:47:37,810 --> 00:47:40,710
So, basically,
little, tiny, droplets of water
905
00:47:40,730 --> 00:47:41,450
will shoot out from here.
906
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,500
So, the issue with it
being on the ground
907
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,620
is will it reach high enough
to get humidity to the top?
908
00:47:46,650 --> 00:47:49,660
JO: Is that where the shower
could come into play?
909
00:47:49,690 --> 00:47:50,580
- Absolutely.
910
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,520
(MARKER SCRIBBLING)
911
00:48:15,390 --> 00:48:19,020
JOOST: This is going to look
so cool, I can't wait.
912
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,410
Hey, John, do you want to put
the first mushroom in?
913
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:27,500
- Love to.
914
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,520
Am I in these guys' way?
915
00:48:29,650 --> 00:48:35,560
White oyster, white oyster
going in, the mushroom wall.
916
00:48:36,730 --> 00:48:39,540
- OK, Jo, you need to go
and have to shower
917
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,960
to make sure
they've got enough steam.
918
00:48:41,980 --> 00:48:42,620
(LAUGHTER)
919
00:48:42,650 --> 00:48:44,500
- Thanks, mate.
- Absolute pleasure.
920
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:49,350
I cannot wait to see
this full of mushrooms.
921
00:48:51,690 --> 00:48:54,480
(UPLIFTING MUSIC)
922
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,330
JOOST: Let's see how long it
takes for this one to go in.
923
00:49:14,350 --> 00:49:17,370
I can't believe
they're already popping out.
924
00:49:17,390 --> 00:49:18,770
- Yeah.
925
00:49:24,020 --> 00:49:28,080
JEREMY: The whole goal, right,
is that you've built a house
926
00:49:28,100 --> 00:49:30,000
that is essentially
food-positive,
927
00:49:30,020 --> 00:49:31,540
that it's enough
for Matt and Jo
928
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,870
to live here, to get enough
water, to have enough energy,
929
00:49:34,900 --> 00:49:40,370
to have enough food here,
and also they like entertaining
930
00:49:40,390 --> 00:49:41,620
so they're going to
have friends over,
931
00:49:41,650 --> 00:49:43,710
so it's actually going
to be more than enough
932
00:49:43,730 --> 00:49:44,750
food for them to be able to...
933
00:49:44,770 --> 00:49:45,540
- That's my goal.
- Yeah.
934
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,370
So, do you think that it's
going to work, like, you know?
935
00:49:49,390 --> 00:49:51,080
- Yeah.
- Yeah. I think...
936
00:49:51,100 --> 00:49:53,080
I wouldn't be doing it if...
937
00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:54,620
I don't know how well...
938
00:49:54,650 --> 00:49:56,330
Like, I'm not saying
that this...
939
00:49:56,350 --> 00:49:59,620
everything we do here is the
way that it needs to be done,
940
00:49:59,650 --> 00:50:02,370
I just want people
to get inspired and go,
941
00:50:02,390 --> 00:50:03,370
"He's doing it like that.
942
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,370
"Well, what about if
we do it like that?"
943
00:50:05,390 --> 00:50:06,370
I just want it to be a catalyst.
944
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:11,370
JEREMY: I've never seen a house
do what this house does.
945
00:50:11,390 --> 00:50:16,600
This is... this is something
that's come from pure creation.
946
00:50:16,810 --> 00:50:20,330
This has been the evolution
of 20 years of thinking
947
00:50:20,350 --> 00:50:24,960
about the environment, our food
systems, our housing systems.
948
00:50:24,980 --> 00:50:29,370
And, you know, he doesn't need
people to do every part of it,
949
00:50:29,390 --> 00:50:31,370
they can just take the bits
that they want.
950
00:50:31,390 --> 00:50:34,040
But everyone can learn
something from what he's done.
951
00:50:34,060 --> 00:50:35,960
And I think that
the big thing is that
952
00:50:35,980 --> 00:50:40,500
it's so ambitious and such
a simple, clear idea.
953
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,370
"I'm going to make a house
954
00:50:42,390 --> 00:50:45,370
"that grows enough food for
the people that live there."
955
00:50:45,390 --> 00:50:47,850
Like, what a simple,
beautiful idea.
956
00:50:56,940 --> 00:50:59,450
JOOST: We were kind of ready
to go but we couldn't occupy
957
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:04,390
the building, so for a lot of
January it just sat there.
958
00:51:06,940 --> 00:51:09,910
Uh, I probably should've
959
00:51:09,940 --> 00:51:11,370
waited to install the batteries,
960
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,370
because nickel ion batteries
need to be used,
961
00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:15,790
otherwise they go to sleep.
962
00:51:15,810 --> 00:51:18,370
And once they go to sleep
you've gotta wake them back up
963
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:19,870
which can take up to six weeks.
964
00:51:19,900 --> 00:51:22,370
So, delay after delay
after delay,
965
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,120
and we just struggled
to get them connected
966
00:51:25,150 --> 00:51:26,450
and eventually
we did get them connected
967
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,580
but they were sitting still for
too long and not being used.
968
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,370
They'd gone to sleep and
we didn't have enough time
969
00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:36,480
to resurrect the batteries
and charge them properly.
970
00:51:38,980 --> 00:51:41,830
I've now installed another
Australian-designed battery
971
00:51:41,850 --> 00:51:45,370
which doesn't have as long
a life as what nickel ion does
972
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,500
but it's still a brilliant
battery that they have actually
973
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,790
put a lot of energy into making
sure that they can be recycled.
974
00:51:50,810 --> 00:51:52,120
In hindsight, we should've just
975
00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:54,660
run all of the electrical
equipment, the batteries,
976
00:51:54,690 --> 00:51:59,370
all of the tools should've been
charging off those batteries
977
00:51:59,390 --> 00:52:00,500
so it's my fault,
978
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:05,400
I got too excited, I should've
installed them later.
979
00:52:21,190 --> 00:52:23,910
JO: Welcome to
FutureFoodSystem,
980
00:52:23,940 --> 00:52:25,370
this is the entry.
981
00:52:25,390 --> 00:52:26,450
I thought I'd take you
on a little tour.
982
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,830
So this is one of two aquaponic
systems we have in the house.
983
00:52:30,850 --> 00:52:34,210
Currently, we've got
golden barramundi
984
00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:35,620
and regular barramundi.
985
00:52:35,650 --> 00:52:38,560
That's our bedroom,
with a grow bed.
986
00:52:38,690 --> 00:52:42,790
We've got plants growing in the
top, that's designed by Joost.
987
00:52:42,810 --> 00:52:45,120
They're our solar panels
out there
988
00:52:45,150 --> 00:52:48,770
and they wrap around the house
like that.
989
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,870
We'll head up to
the biggest module,
990
00:52:51,900 --> 00:52:54,660
which is the kitchen
and dining room.
991
00:52:54,690 --> 00:52:57,850
There's Pippies, hey, Pippy.
992
00:52:57,980 --> 00:53:00,620
This is our MCG,
our cricket farm,
993
00:53:00,650 --> 00:53:06,660
so we use crickets as a source
of vitamin K2 and protein.
994
00:53:06,690 --> 00:53:08,450
(DOG GROWLS)
995
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,710
Dog verse crickets.
996
00:53:10,730 --> 00:53:13,710
Then we've got our flow hive,
997
00:53:13,730 --> 00:53:17,710
our beehive,
you can just tap the honey,
998
00:53:17,730 --> 00:53:19,870
so this comes up.
999
00:53:19,900 --> 00:53:22,040
And then in here
we have our bees,
1000
00:53:22,060 --> 00:53:24,910
so there's not much honey
in there at the moment.
1001
00:53:24,940 --> 00:53:28,770
(DOG BARKS AND GROWLS)
1002
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,160
Finally, got the batteries
installed
1003
00:53:46,190 --> 00:53:48,410
that were meant to be
at Fed Square.
1004
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:49,910
Pretty excited.
1005
00:53:49,940 --> 00:53:53,660
Just in the last two weeks,
they've really already woken up
1006
00:53:53,690 --> 00:53:56,580
again and fully charged,
and hopefully
1007
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,790
these will be in our family for
1008
00:53:58,810 --> 00:54:01,580
quite a few generations to come.
1009
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,850
(BLOWS KISS)
1010
00:54:13,650 --> 00:54:16,910
JO: We're not serving any
guests but we're still here.
1011
00:54:16,940 --> 00:54:19,540
There's some more bit and bobs
from the garden.
1012
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,870
We've harvested over 40kg
of pumpkin.
1013
00:54:22,900 --> 00:54:24,540
That's been pretty cool.
1014
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,650
And there's the view
from the kitchen window.
1015
00:54:32,690 --> 00:54:35,230
That is a good parsnip.
1016
00:54:37,650 --> 00:54:40,040
Having a garden
is really important
1017
00:54:40,060 --> 00:54:42,450
to the way that Matt and I cook
1018
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,580
because we just
let the garden guide
1019
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,450
what we're actually cooking,
it's not the other way around.
1020
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,790
It's really about
coming out here
1021
00:54:49,810 --> 00:54:52,160
and seeing what's growing
and what is the best
1022
00:54:52,190 --> 00:54:56,150
and then just picking that
and cooking something with it.
1023
00:55:01,270 --> 00:55:04,160
I mean, you might eat snow peas
for a week
1024
00:55:04,190 --> 00:55:06,580
but they're probably
the best snow peas
1025
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:12,390
you're ever going to eat. And then you learn how to serve
snow peas ten different ways.
1026
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,620
And then, the next week,
cavolo nero is ready
1027
00:55:15,650 --> 00:55:19,290
and then you cook cavolo nero
five different ways.
1028
00:55:19,310 --> 00:55:22,370
So, I feel like we're really
pushing ourselves
1029
00:55:22,390 --> 00:55:23,710
with our cooking.
1030
00:55:23,730 --> 00:55:27,390
(EXCITING MUSIC)
1031
00:55:27,850 --> 00:55:31,080
MATT: We'll document
all our recipes as we go
1032
00:55:31,100 --> 00:55:32,810
and photograph as we go.
1033
00:55:32,980 --> 00:55:35,870
JOOST: Matt and I want to know
if anyone's got any questions.
1034
00:55:35,900 --> 00:55:39,580
- Ask us, food, building,
materials, whatever.
1035
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,500
There's no hiding
any of the ideas here
1036
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,290
with the building, with the
food, it's gotta be out there
1037
00:55:45,310 --> 00:55:47,080
and that's how you can inspire
1038
00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:48,830
people to do this stuff, really.
1039
00:55:48,850 --> 00:55:52,790
JOOST: So, we used 400 grams
of tiger nuts
1040
00:55:52,810 --> 00:55:55,210
and got a litre of milk.
1041
00:55:55,230 --> 00:55:56,580
(LAUGHTER)
1042
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,120
Got enough for me?
Come on, mate.
1043
00:55:59,150 --> 00:56:00,390
- Sure.
1044
00:56:05,020 --> 00:56:08,940
JO: Be interesting... Oh, yeah.
1045
00:56:09,390 --> 00:56:16,310
Isn't that mental?
Tiger nuts! It's so cool!
1046
00:56:16,390 --> 00:56:23,350
So, that's two blades - one,
two, three, four, five, six.
1047
00:56:27,350 --> 00:56:28,390
Seven.
1048
00:56:36,810 --> 00:56:41,120
Mm! Tiger nut milk
and we're gonna milk it.
1049
00:56:41,150 --> 00:56:43,830
JOOST: Jo, what are you making?
1050
00:56:43,850 --> 00:56:45,620
- Tiger nut ice-cream.
1051
00:56:45,650 --> 00:56:49,790
It's really starchy
and really sweet,
1052
00:56:49,810 --> 00:56:52,980
and then this nut meal.
1053
00:56:53,390 --> 00:56:57,290
Use it for stuffing or put it
in the tiger nut cake
1054
00:56:57,310 --> 00:56:58,580
as a bit of moisture.
1055
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,160
And then the chickens love it.
1056
00:57:01,190 --> 00:57:06,370
I've never used tiger nuts
before until this house.
1057
00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:08,330
But they have been
a real lifesaver
1058
00:57:08,350 --> 00:57:10,370
when you have to have something
to produce sweetness,
1059
00:57:10,390 --> 00:57:12,330
you know, we're not
growing any wheat,
1060
00:57:12,350 --> 00:57:15,370
so to use it as flour
is awesome, as well.
1061
00:57:15,390 --> 00:57:18,790
And I like that challenge,
the challenge
1062
00:57:18,810 --> 00:57:20,210
has kind of introduced me to
1063
00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:21,330
something that I never imagined.
1064
00:57:21,350 --> 00:57:25,870
And then to be making things
that are nut free, dairy free,
1065
00:57:25,900 --> 00:57:31,810
gluten free, sugar free, all
from this magical little tuber.
1066
00:57:35,810 --> 00:57:38,390
And that is the crazy tiger nut.
1067
00:57:39,390 --> 00:57:41,210
Like, I feel like every country
1068
00:57:41,230 --> 00:57:44,370
must have their version
of something like this.
1069
00:57:44,390 --> 00:57:48,390
For Australia,
I think it's bunya nuts.
1070
00:57:51,350 --> 00:57:53,060
So silky.
1071
00:57:55,060 --> 00:57:56,390
Liquid gold.
1072
00:57:57,730 --> 00:57:59,250
Mm!
1073
00:57:59,270 --> 00:58:01,330
Magma, yum.
1074
00:58:01,350 --> 00:58:03,230
I love cooking.
1075
00:58:03,350 --> 00:58:05,900
I love everything about it.
1076
00:58:09,390 --> 00:58:13,750
- Look, there's ice-cream.
- Wait, is that ice cream?
1077
00:58:13,770 --> 00:58:15,750
- Yeah.
- Oh! I thought...
1078
00:58:15,770 --> 00:58:17,000
- Look at the bowl,
1079
00:58:17,020 --> 00:58:20,370
it's frozen. Does
that feel cold?
1080
00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:21,850
- Oh!
1081
00:58:24,190 --> 00:58:25,390
JO: Ice-cream.
1082
00:58:28,980 --> 00:58:33,080
You know what blows my mind?
It's three ingredients.
1083
00:58:33,100 --> 00:58:34,940
That's all it is.
1084
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,390
Double scoop.
1085
00:58:50,270 --> 00:58:55,020
JOOST: I was hoping to see
some babies in there today.
1086
00:58:58,390 --> 00:59:00,370
Jeez, look how much darker
they are.
1087
00:59:00,390 --> 00:59:01,290
JO: Oh, wow!
1088
00:59:01,310 --> 00:59:03,330
- They've got to be
close to hatching.
1089
00:59:03,350 --> 00:59:06,040
- Yeah. Wow.
1090
00:59:06,060 --> 00:59:07,160
- That's so cool.
1091
00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:09,390
(PLAYFUL MUSIC)
1092
00:59:11,060 --> 00:59:13,390
JO: That's my finger for scale.
1093
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:17,540
JOOST: We thought that this
project would be successful
1094
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:18,370
through social media
1095
00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:22,370
but we never expected it
to be as successful.
1096
00:59:22,390 --> 00:59:23,540
So, we've got people all over
1097
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,370
the world following the project.
1098
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:26,370
MAN: If you told people
1099
00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:30,370
that mealworms eat polystyrene,
they wouldn't believe it.
1100
00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:34,080
JO: People don't believe it.
Oh, it's just incredible.
1101
00:59:34,100 --> 00:59:36,910
So much polystyrene
goes into restaurants.
1102
00:59:36,940 --> 00:59:41,370
JOOST: Jo posted a video,
it had 40,000 people saw it,
1103
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,040
on mealworms.
1104
00:59:43,060 --> 00:59:45,500
JO: Wow! - And I think that that's what
shocked Federation Square,
1105
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:52,370
as well, the reach that we have
had globally is phenomenal.
1106
00:59:52,390 --> 00:59:54,370
It's a little bit
like a butterfly?
1107
00:59:54,390 --> 00:59:54,960
- Yeah.
1108
00:59:54,980 --> 00:59:57,160
So then do they just fly out
of there when they're...?
1109
00:59:57,190 --> 01:00:00,160
- I don't know, we haven't
worked that bit out yet.
1110
01:00:00,190 --> 01:00:01,390
(LAUGHTER)
1111
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:03,870
Possums or the birds?
1112
01:00:03,900 --> 01:00:07,330
No, I think it's possums that
have actually beaten us to it.
1113
01:00:07,350 --> 01:00:08,290
MATT: Had a little nibble?
1114
01:00:08,310 --> 01:00:11,830
JO: We are doing a dish at
the moment which is a cake,
1115
01:00:11,850 --> 01:00:13,250
that we're layering with apples
1116
01:00:13,270 --> 01:00:15,450
and its served with
a tiger nut ice-cream.
1117
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,370
I did a video of how
to make those cakes
1118
01:00:18,390 --> 01:00:19,910
and surprisingly a lot of people
1119
01:00:19,940 --> 01:00:23,910
have sourced tiger nuts on
their own and have made them.
1120
01:00:23,940 --> 01:00:26,910
And, I mean, that dish
only has four ingredients
1121
01:00:26,940 --> 01:00:29,410
and all of the ingredients
are coming from the house -
1122
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:33,210
eggs, honey, tiger nuts, apples.
1123
01:00:33,230 --> 01:00:35,330
It's kind of a no-brainer
1124
01:00:35,350 --> 01:00:36,370
that things could be that
1125
01:00:36,390 --> 01:00:38,580
simple but you're
not missing out.
1126
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,060
Yeah.
1127
01:00:42,020 --> 01:00:42,910
MATT: This is so unique,
1128
01:00:42,940 --> 01:00:46,040
and it's already becoming
the catalyst for change.
1129
01:00:46,060 --> 01:00:49,040
WOMAN: That's pumpkins,
we've got zucchinis,
1130
01:00:49,060 --> 01:00:53,370
pumpkins, tomatoes in that bed,
in the middle.
1131
01:00:53,390 --> 01:00:56,330
We have some tall,
skinny tomatoes.
1132
01:00:56,350 --> 01:00:57,580
MATT: The way people are looking
1133
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,370
at their homes, the way they eat
1134
01:00:59,390 --> 01:01:01,080
food, how they prepare food,
1135
01:01:01,100 --> 01:01:03,410
the waste that is
generated by food.
1136
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,000
WOMAN: I have gone zero waste
at home
1137
01:01:06,020 --> 01:01:09,270
by doing a few simple things.
1138
01:01:11,730 --> 01:01:15,160
Everything gets put into
a Bokashi bin
1139
01:01:15,190 --> 01:01:16,500
or into the worm farm.
1140
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,160
MATT: Nothing's too small,
I think, be it
1141
01:01:19,190 --> 01:01:21,540
growing some parsley
on their balconies,
1142
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,330
but the upside of it
is it's always more delicious,
1143
01:01:24,350 --> 01:01:28,370
so, you know, we're proving
this is possible.
1144
01:01:28,390 --> 01:01:29,370
MAN: All the scraps and that
1145
01:01:29,390 --> 01:01:30,660
went straight in
the top of that.
1146
01:01:30,690 --> 01:01:33,000
MATT: If people want to
make changes at home,
1147
01:01:33,020 --> 01:01:34,910
just little things,
nothing is too small,
1148
01:01:34,940 --> 01:01:36,370
and, once you start to
do one or two things,
1149
01:01:36,390 --> 01:01:39,330
it just becomes infectious
and you just do the next thing
1150
01:01:39,350 --> 01:01:41,250
and, you know,
in a short matter of time,
1151
01:01:41,270 --> 01:01:42,540
you can actually be making
a big difference.
1152
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:46,370
And, with some small changes,
we didn't produce any waste.
1153
01:01:46,390 --> 01:01:49,370
Imagine a world without waste.
1154
01:01:49,390 --> 01:01:53,100
(GENTLE MUSIC)
1155
01:02:03,390 --> 01:02:06,370
(BIRD CALLS)
1156
01:02:06,390 --> 01:02:10,520
(INSECTS BUZZ)
1157
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:23,000
JOOST: I'm walking up there,
up the stairs
1158
01:02:23,020 --> 01:02:23,580
and I'm looking in the sky
1159
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:28,450
and I just see
these really, really big flies,
1160
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,400
like, they're huge.
1161
01:02:31,770 --> 01:02:34,450
Then I ran back up the stairs
and the whole solar panel
1162
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,480
was covered with a blanket
of dead bees.
1163
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:42,480
There's no bees in there,
what the hell?
1164
01:02:45,020 --> 01:02:48,250
What it was is the bees
were dragging dead bees
1165
01:02:48,270 --> 01:02:51,390
out of the hive
and dropping them.
1166
01:02:51,810 --> 01:02:55,390
MATT: It's like a massacre
JOOST: I know.
1167
01:02:57,390 --> 01:02:58,660
We worked out somebody was
1168
01:02:58,690 --> 01:03:01,370
using a chemical
to get rid of a pest.
1169
01:03:01,390 --> 01:03:04,370
The bees had obviously...
were attracted to it,
1170
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,250
had taken it back to the hive.
1171
01:03:06,270 --> 01:03:08,620
(SOMBRE MUSIC)
1172
01:03:08,650 --> 01:03:11,400
(BEES BUZZING)
1173
01:03:12,390 --> 01:03:15,620
Luckily, the bees were
smart enough to work out,
1174
01:03:15,650 --> 01:03:16,790
don't go back to that spot,
1175
01:03:16,810 --> 01:03:21,370
and within a week the hive
was back to full strength.
1176
01:03:21,390 --> 01:03:23,580
We couldn't believe
how resilient.
1177
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:24,370
Oh, I was shocked,
1178
01:03:24,390 --> 01:03:27,350
I really thought
that I'd lost that hive.
1179
01:03:36,650 --> 01:03:40,450
JOOST: Juicy, juicy,
juiciest nashis.
1180
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,540
- Sorry, what?
- It's been a big day.
1181
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,390
- It's been a big six months.
1182
01:03:52,190 --> 01:03:54,330
JO: What are you doing?
1183
01:03:54,350 --> 01:03:56,390
(PLAYFUL MUSIC)
1184
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,160
(JO LAUGHS WICKEDLY)
1185
01:04:01,190 --> 01:04:03,080
I'll get ya, I'll get ya.
1186
01:04:03,100 --> 01:04:05,370
JO: What are you guys
doing here?
1187
01:04:05,390 --> 01:04:07,810
(LAUGHTER)
1188
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,910
Stunning, right?
FutureFoodSystem.
1189
01:04:11,940 --> 01:04:14,710
- You guys can do the mushrooms,
1190
01:04:14,730 --> 01:04:18,520
I'm going to do the barramundi.
1191
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,810
(SHOCKED SQUEAL)
1192
01:04:32,770 --> 01:04:34,370
JOOST: You going to go
fishing, Matt?
1193
01:04:34,390 --> 01:04:37,370
- Oh, I don't know if I'm
going to be able to get one.
1194
01:04:37,390 --> 01:04:40,230
- That's not the attitude, mate.
1195
01:04:40,350 --> 01:04:43,370
- It's going to be really
hard to get one, Joost.
1196
01:04:43,390 --> 01:04:45,390
The water's so high.
1197
01:04:46,390 --> 01:04:49,250
JO: Out of everything
in this house,
1198
01:04:49,270 --> 01:04:52,290
I think the rainbow trout
are my favourite.
1199
01:04:52,310 --> 01:04:52,960
They were the yabbies,
1200
01:04:52,980 --> 01:04:57,160
but we've been growing these
fingerlings for months now,
1201
01:04:57,190 --> 01:04:59,540
they were tiny,
and now they're at full size
1202
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,370
and ready to harvest and
we actually have to harvest
1203
01:05:02,390 --> 01:05:04,370
before it gets too hot.
1204
01:05:04,390 --> 01:05:06,560
Sorry, fishy!
1205
01:05:07,980 --> 01:05:10,370
It's actually really hard
to catch them...
1206
01:05:10,390 --> 01:05:12,370
Ooh!
..using a net.
1207
01:05:12,390 --> 01:05:13,250
You'd think in a small container
1208
01:05:13,270 --> 01:05:18,390
you could just reach in and
grab 'em but they're so tricky.
1209
01:05:18,940 --> 01:05:22,980
- Oh! Oh, shit, sorry.
- No, that's alright.
1210
01:05:25,060 --> 01:05:27,330
It's hard,
we've been living with them
1211
01:05:27,350 --> 01:05:28,370
and we're going to
have to kill 'em,
1212
01:05:28,390 --> 01:05:32,000
which, yeah, I know is part of
being a chef and eating food
1213
01:05:32,020 --> 01:05:35,060
but it doesn't make it
any easier.
1214
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,710
MATT: Do you want me to,
like, poke something one way,
1215
01:05:37,730 --> 01:05:39,620
just to get 'em
to go towards you?
1216
01:05:39,650 --> 01:05:40,370
- Yeah.
1217
01:05:40,390 --> 01:05:41,410
- Maybe I could use the Go-Pro.
1218
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:45,580
If we poke them under there,
they can swim out?
1219
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,600
- Yeah, we can do that.
1220
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,850
Oh, it's really murky.
1221
01:05:58,730 --> 01:06:00,980
JO: They're so quick.
1222
01:06:03,390 --> 01:06:06,390
(MATT SIGHS)
1223
01:06:07,350 --> 01:06:09,020
JO: Did it go in?
1224
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:14,980
- Oi, beauty!
- There you go.
1225
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,390
JO: Oh, it's slippery.
1226
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:45,350
MATT: It's got a lot of fat
in it, it's really healthy.
1227
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,370
JO: We always have the
connection with the food
1228
01:06:47,390 --> 01:06:50,410
of where it comes from and
that you have to kill something
1229
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,810
if you're going to eat meat.
1230
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,830
And when it's in your house
and they're really beautiful
1231
01:06:58,850 --> 01:07:01,540
and you feed them every day
or they're there,
1232
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:05,390
you have to use all of it
because you're killing it.
1233
01:07:08,100 --> 01:07:11,660
Matt: That, that and that,
that'll be roasted for a sauce.
1234
01:07:11,690 --> 01:07:14,830
The guts we save up
till we've got enough
1235
01:07:14,850 --> 01:07:15,660
to make a batch of fish sauce,
1236
01:07:15,690 --> 01:07:18,370
and then, the fillets, they
could be roasted or pan seared
1237
01:07:18,390 --> 01:07:21,060
or baked in the oven,
however you like.
1238
01:07:21,390 --> 01:07:25,830
JO: To have this fish and have
to kill it, gut it, scale it
1239
01:07:25,850 --> 01:07:26,370
and then prepare
1240
01:07:26,390 --> 01:07:30,370
and then feed it to people and
I hope that they realise that,
1241
01:07:30,390 --> 01:07:31,370
you know, you actually go
1242
01:07:31,390 --> 01:07:32,580
through probably a bit of trauma
1243
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:33,370
when you kill something.
1244
01:07:33,390 --> 01:07:35,450
- I don't know I don't have
that connection so much,
1245
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,370
I'm more like
it wouldn't be here
1246
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:38,370
without us growing it to eat,
1247
01:07:38,390 --> 01:07:42,370
so, I don't know, I think it
makes me much more respectful.
1248
01:07:42,390 --> 01:07:43,710
For sure, like,
you have to make sure
1249
01:07:43,730 --> 01:07:45,830
everything is being utilised,
you definitely wouldn't
1250
01:07:45,850 --> 01:07:48,620
waste anything, so I think
that's a really big motivator
1251
01:07:48,650 --> 01:07:53,370
but for me I don't have an
issue with that side of things.
1252
01:07:53,390 --> 01:07:54,600
- Far out.
1253
01:07:56,730 --> 01:07:59,980
It was just alive
six minutes ago.
1254
01:08:00,190 --> 01:08:00,790
- Now it's in pieces.
1255
01:08:00,810 --> 01:08:04,080
JO: Because we've grown the
fish, you see how much effort
1256
01:08:04,100 --> 01:08:07,000
goes into every part of it,
feeding them every day
1257
01:08:07,020 --> 01:08:08,910
and making sure
the water's clean.
1258
01:08:08,940 --> 01:08:12,080
It's got, like, really nice fat
around its stomach.
1259
01:08:12,100 --> 01:08:13,370
- It's really healthy.
1260
01:08:13,390 --> 01:08:15,500
- Then, when we go to use it,
1261
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,370
really give justice to the whole
1262
01:08:17,390 --> 01:08:19,850
animal and not waste anything.
1263
01:08:21,390 --> 01:08:22,370
Like the swim bladder,
1264
01:08:22,390 --> 01:08:26,620
so we can clean it up,
dry it and then deep fry it
1265
01:08:26,650 --> 01:08:27,500
and get a cracker.
1266
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:28,580
And then same with the eyes,
1267
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:30,540
you can make
crackers out of those,
1268
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,690
as well, the skin, as well.
1269
01:08:33,850 --> 01:08:36,910
And then the bones
will go into compost,
1270
01:08:36,940 --> 01:08:38,210
which then goes
back into the soil
1271
01:08:38,230 --> 01:08:41,900
so it's just a complete
closed loop.
1272
01:08:42,390 --> 01:08:44,830
Things like organic waste
and water
1273
01:08:44,850 --> 01:08:47,370
and cardboard and
all these things
1274
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:48,450
actually get used on site.
1275
01:08:48,480 --> 01:08:53,210
So, this system, this building,
uses all those materials
1276
01:08:53,230 --> 01:08:54,370
as a valuable resource
1277
01:08:54,390 --> 01:08:56,790
and recombines it
back into the building.
1278
01:08:56,810 --> 01:08:58,540
So, cardboard gets ground up
1279
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,120
and turned into food
for mycelium,
1280
01:09:00,150 --> 01:09:02,370
then we harvest the mushrooms
and then
1281
01:09:02,390 --> 01:09:04,580
that compost that's generated
by the mushrooms
1282
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,500
then goes back into the
gardens, and things like
1283
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,960
organic waste goes
into a biodigester,
1284
01:09:09,980 --> 01:09:11,520
like a big stomach.
1285
01:09:12,440 --> 01:09:14,960
So, we inoculate this tank
with cow manure.
1286
01:09:14,980 --> 01:09:18,540
JO: I thought you were going
to put your hand in there.
1287
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:19,040
Oh!
1288
01:09:19,060 --> 01:09:21,910
JOOST: Hang on, I just washed
this shirt.
1289
01:09:21,940 --> 01:09:24,310
Put your flowers in there.
1290
01:09:26,770 --> 01:09:28,060
Done.
1291
01:09:28,650 --> 01:09:31,870
JO: And then that just
goes into the base?
1292
01:09:31,900 --> 01:09:34,040
JOOST: Yeah, the bacteria
from the cow's stomach
1293
01:09:34,060 --> 01:09:37,160
will break down
all of our organic waste
1294
01:09:37,190 --> 01:09:41,770
and turn it into gas
and amazing fertiliser.
1295
01:09:45,650 --> 01:09:49,230
(MARKER SCRIBBLING)
1296
01:10:06,810 --> 01:10:08,250
MATT: We're still
kind of measuring
1297
01:10:08,270 --> 01:10:09,330
how much we get out of it
but, um,
1298
01:10:09,350 --> 01:10:10,830
you know, we don't have
that much waste
1299
01:10:10,850 --> 01:10:13,750
but, when it breaks down
and when the gas is created,
1300
01:10:13,770 --> 01:10:14,500
it's actually quite a lot.
1301
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,210
So, there's I think maybe
four hours a day, at least,
1302
01:10:17,230 --> 01:10:19,270
of cooking gas coming from this.
1303
01:10:22,770 --> 01:10:26,000
So, just add a little bit, poke
it in, add another little bit.
1304
01:10:26,020 --> 01:10:27,500
JEREMY: I was struggling with
1305
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,410
the aesthetic of the biodigester
1306
01:10:29,440 --> 01:10:30,290
to be totally honest,
1307
01:10:30,310 --> 01:10:32,410
how do I get clients
to engage with human
1308
01:10:32,440 --> 01:10:37,450
waste as a resource, as well as
their food waste as a resource?
1309
01:10:37,480 --> 01:10:41,960
I think that sort of technology
in an urban environment
1310
01:10:41,980 --> 01:10:48,080
should be handled at a civic
scale, at a grid scale,
1311
01:10:48,100 --> 01:10:51,910
but I think it's incredible
and I think it's great
1312
01:10:51,940 --> 01:10:54,100
in remote locations.
1313
01:10:55,150 --> 01:10:58,600
(TRAMS TRUNDLE)
1314
01:11:08,270 --> 01:11:11,480
(SERENE MUSIC)
1315
01:11:30,730 --> 01:11:32,120
So, there's been
lots of action here
1316
01:11:32,150 --> 01:11:34,660
but no-one, really,
in the house to enjoy it,
1317
01:11:34,690 --> 01:11:37,250
so it's just been us, so it's been very quiet
for the last six,
1318
01:11:37,270 --> 01:11:40,580
what is it now,
three months almost, longer?
1319
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,270
- Yeah, three months.
1320
01:11:42,650 --> 01:11:44,040
Yeah, so we're pretty excited to
1321
01:11:44,060 --> 01:11:45,250
get some people into the house.
1322
01:11:45,270 --> 01:11:48,730
And the garden's out of control
so it's perfect.
1323
01:11:50,770 --> 01:11:53,310
Dumplings and fish
are both downstairs,
1324
01:11:53,770 --> 01:11:56,520
so we need to check them.
1325
01:11:58,310 --> 01:12:02,000
JO: It's been funny because
we've only ever really been
1326
01:12:02,020 --> 01:12:06,080
in the kitchen and now doing
all front-of-house stuff,
1327
01:12:06,100 --> 01:12:08,540
getting all the plates ready and
1328
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,770
polishing cutlery and glasses.
1329
01:12:13,810 --> 01:12:16,370
This is the beauty about having
solar panels on the ground.
1330
01:12:16,390 --> 01:12:19,660
JOOST: If you, at the start of
this project said to someone,
1331
01:12:19,690 --> 01:12:22,120
"Look, I think we can grow food
where we live,"
1332
01:12:22,150 --> 01:12:23,500
everyone would assume
it's a salad.
1333
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:27,000
"Do I eat a salad for
breakfast, lunch and dinner?"
1334
01:12:27,020 --> 01:12:28,000
And what we've proven is
1335
01:12:28,020 --> 01:12:31,830
the food that we've generated
over the last six months,
1336
01:12:31,850 --> 01:12:33,580
the diversity and difference
1337
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,390
and it's all delicious, as well.
1338
01:12:39,650 --> 01:12:42,370
LOU: The crickets will be out
soon, we'll fry some up.
1339
01:12:42,390 --> 01:12:44,120
But we're going to
season the crickets
1340
01:12:44,150 --> 01:12:45,580
with the cricket salt, as well.
1341
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,370
- Imagine it like a dukkah.
1342
01:12:47,390 --> 01:12:48,000
- Yeah, pretty much.
1343
01:12:48,020 --> 01:12:51,370
- So, you would put nuts and
different things in a dukkah,
1344
01:12:51,390 --> 01:12:55,330
but we're doing different seeds
and different crickets.
1345
01:12:55,350 --> 01:12:57,390
(BOTH LAUGH)
1346
01:13:00,390 --> 01:13:04,310
Bit nervous, we haven't
cooked for anyone in so long.
1347
01:13:05,350 --> 01:13:07,290
LOU: Kind of looks like
a garlic salt,
1348
01:13:07,310 --> 01:13:10,390
about a quarter roast cricket.
1349
01:13:18,390 --> 01:13:21,370
JO: Smells a bit like
ginger beer to me.
1350
01:13:21,390 --> 01:13:24,770
Can you smell it? Smell-evision.
1351
01:13:26,810 --> 01:13:29,350
LOU: Has a pretty nice pop.
1352
01:13:38,270 --> 01:13:40,120
JO: It's like having
people over for dinner,
1353
01:13:40,150 --> 01:13:43,660
so it's not, like,
a typical dining experience.
1354
01:13:43,690 --> 01:13:46,750
So, it's just... Like you would
have a dinner party at home,
1355
01:13:46,770 --> 01:13:48,250
it's just having people over
for dinner.
1356
01:13:48,270 --> 01:13:51,250
The only difference is we
just don't know who's coming.
1357
01:13:51,270 --> 01:13:53,390
(JO CHUCKLES)
1358
01:13:55,850 --> 01:13:57,100
Hello.
1359
01:13:57,690 --> 01:13:59,290
- Hi.
- Welcome.
1360
01:13:59,310 --> 01:14:01,330
- Hello!
- G'day.
1361
01:14:01,350 --> 01:14:02,960
- I'm Jo.
- G'day, Jo.
1362
01:14:02,980 --> 01:14:04,350
Come on in.
1363
01:14:09,100 --> 01:14:11,120
Yeah. Cheers.
1364
01:14:11,150 --> 01:14:12,790
- It smells so...
1365
01:14:12,810 --> 01:14:17,370
Cheers. And feel free
to wander up.
1366
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,330
So, the water from the fish
1367
01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:21,210
tanks cycles across the growbeds
1368
01:14:21,230 --> 01:14:25,390
and then we've got
sweet potatoes and snow peas.
1369
01:14:26,390 --> 01:14:28,750
- Ah, hello.
- How are you?
1370
01:14:28,770 --> 01:14:31,410
Welcome. Hello.
1371
01:14:31,440 --> 01:14:34,390
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
1372
01:14:36,770 --> 01:14:39,660
MATT: Alrighty, everyone,
welcome to lunch.
1373
01:14:39,690 --> 01:14:41,370
So, there's some
different shoots,
1374
01:14:41,390 --> 01:14:42,160
some different veggies.
1375
01:14:42,190 --> 01:14:44,040
Everything you can see
is completely edible,
1376
01:14:44,060 --> 01:14:46,370
the flowers and even
the crickets on top.
1377
01:14:46,390 --> 01:14:47,830
So there's some fried crickets
in there.
1378
01:14:47,850 --> 01:14:50,250
It's very casual, it's like
dinner at home, right?
1379
01:14:50,270 --> 01:14:51,870
And the idea is to
just grab some leaves,
1380
01:14:51,900 --> 01:14:54,290
put it through the dip and
just eat it with your hands.
1381
01:14:54,310 --> 01:14:56,660
- Lovely.
- Cool, thank you.
1382
01:14:56,690 --> 01:14:57,750
- Try the cricket.
1383
01:14:57,770 --> 01:14:58,830
(CHUCKLES)
Yeah.
1384
01:14:58,850 --> 01:15:01,390
- Beautiful.
- How's your cricket?
1385
01:15:08,390 --> 01:15:10,210
The next little bite we have
1386
01:15:10,230 --> 01:15:13,120
is a cannoli that's filled
with smoked and cured trout,
1387
01:15:13,150 --> 01:15:14,910
rainbow trout
that is growing up here.
1388
01:15:14,940 --> 01:15:18,370
It's encased in
a sorghum tostada,
1389
01:15:18,390 --> 01:15:19,250
so similar to making a corn
1390
01:15:19,270 --> 01:15:20,210
chip but we made
it with sorghum,
1391
01:15:20,230 --> 01:15:22,830
which is a grain
that we've grown here.
1392
01:15:22,850 --> 01:15:25,290
(CHATTER AND LAUGHTER)
1393
01:15:25,310 --> 01:15:27,480
- Bon appetit.
- Thank you.
1394
01:15:33,440 --> 01:15:37,060
(TRANQUIL MUSIC)
1395
01:15:58,100 --> 01:16:02,750
JO: These are cured,
then smoked egg yolks.
1396
01:16:02,770 --> 01:16:06,000
And then we dry them
and then we grate them.
1397
01:16:06,020 --> 01:16:08,210
MATT: Sorry to interrupt
again, guys.
1398
01:16:08,230 --> 01:16:09,540
We have a kind of pasta
that's not pasta.
1399
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,830
It's made from celeriac we've
just really lightly blanched.
1400
01:16:12,850 --> 01:16:18,120
It's like a gluten-free,
dairy-free carbonara, kind of.
1401
01:16:18,150 --> 01:16:19,370
Mm!
1402
01:16:19,390 --> 01:16:22,000
- Looks delish! Thank you.
1403
01:16:22,020 --> 01:16:25,390
(LAUGHTER)
1404
01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:28,120
It's fun to be cooking again
and running around,
1405
01:16:28,150 --> 01:16:32,980
and feel like we
have a bit of a meaning.
1406
01:16:46,980 --> 01:16:49,830
I think the guests have got
into it, they ate the crickets
1407
01:16:49,850 --> 01:16:53,120
and had some things that are
familiar and not familiar
1408
01:16:53,150 --> 01:16:53,870
and mixed it up.
1409
01:16:53,900 --> 01:16:56,040
JO: Yeah, not being able
to cook for people
1410
01:16:56,060 --> 01:16:58,370
has been hard and
not having people
1411
01:16:58,390 --> 01:16:59,290
being able to go out and dine,
1412
01:16:59,310 --> 01:17:02,330
so I think there's a really
nice feeling in the air
1413
01:17:02,350 --> 01:17:06,730
that finally we can
be around each other.
1414
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:09,410
Yeah, really nice.
1415
01:17:09,440 --> 01:17:13,660
Kind of worried that we
couldn't remember how to cook,
1416
01:17:13,690 --> 01:17:16,270
but clearly that's not a thing.
1417
01:17:21,730 --> 01:17:25,440
(MARKER SCRIBBLING)
1418
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:03,150
(EXCITED CHATTER)
1419
01:18:13,650 --> 01:18:18,440
JOOST: That's called recycling.
Bring your own bucket.
1420
01:18:19,390 --> 01:18:20,580
MATT: Something like this
is so special,
1421
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:24,040
to put it into a public space,
to share it with people
1422
01:18:24,060 --> 01:18:24,580
is really important.
1423
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,000
JOOST: So, there's huge
potential for us to turn
1424
01:18:27,020 --> 01:18:30,370
our urban areas into the most
biodiverse places on earth,
1425
01:18:30,390 --> 01:18:31,160
which they already are,
1426
01:18:31,190 --> 01:18:34,390
but what about if we
actually grow food?
1427
01:18:37,310 --> 01:18:40,500
Hi! It's Yvie Jones
from Studio 10.
1428
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,600
JO: Straight lines, Costa.
1429
01:18:44,150 --> 01:18:46,080
I would blanch them, definitely,
1430
01:18:46,100 --> 01:18:48,370
and I would not have them
squeaky.
1431
01:18:48,390 --> 01:18:49,730
- OK.
1432
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,000
A lot of our colleagues
are saying
1433
01:18:58,020 --> 01:19:01,370
it must be so nice to only
cook for 14 people a night
1434
01:19:01,390 --> 01:19:01,750
and it is,
1435
01:19:01,770 --> 01:19:04,210
but we're also
picking the vegetables,
1436
01:19:04,230 --> 01:19:05,370
trying to preserve them,
1437
01:19:05,390 --> 01:19:08,750
managing all of
the fermentations, the sauces,
1438
01:19:08,770 --> 01:19:10,370
the pastes, all of that flavour,
1439
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:11,370
you know, important stuff.
1440
01:19:11,390 --> 01:19:15,230
Wow. It smells amazing. There's
so much flavour in there.
1441
01:19:15,350 --> 01:19:16,370
JO: It's a multi-course dinner,
1442
01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:20,250
so we're cooking, serving,
washing the dishes.
1443
01:19:20,270 --> 01:19:23,250
Usually by 10:30,
we've finished cooking food.
1444
01:19:23,270 --> 01:19:26,080
- And then clean up again.
- And then we clean up.
1445
01:19:26,100 --> 01:19:27,450
Vacuum, mop, finish the dishes
1446
01:19:27,480 --> 01:19:30,790
and then we're
usually in bed by 1,
1447
01:19:30,810 --> 01:19:34,230
1:30, and then do it again.
1448
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:41,250
MATT: But, you know,
Joost reminds me all the time,
1449
01:19:41,270 --> 01:19:42,210
like, there's nothing like this,
1450
01:19:42,230 --> 01:19:46,810
it's never been done and, if
we don't do it, no-one will.
1451
01:19:52,270 --> 01:19:55,580
JO: It's very fulfilling,
being here.
1452
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:56,660
Beans galore.
1453
01:19:56,690 --> 01:20:01,500
Being a part of a system that
you know is reliant on you,
1454
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,620
and you're giving back to it
and it gives to you,
1455
01:20:04,650 --> 01:20:08,210
and being able to cook and
be a part of that, as well,
1456
01:20:08,230 --> 01:20:09,410
so you kind of close the loop
1457
01:20:09,440 --> 01:20:11,370
by showing that thing respect,
as well,
1458
01:20:11,390 --> 01:20:14,600
so it's a very fulfilling
project.
1459
01:20:17,650 --> 01:20:21,660
JOOST: I view the building
like a dandelion.
1460
01:20:21,690 --> 01:20:23,080
We've planted a dandelion
1461
01:20:23,100 --> 01:20:26,390
and, when it flowers,
its seeds go everywhere.
1462
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,480
That's how I see it.
1463
01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:34,480
(TRANQUIL PIANO MUSIC)
1464
01:20:46,390 --> 01:20:49,450
JOOST: Yeah, so I'm still
a little bit in shock,
1465
01:20:49,480 --> 01:20:50,830
but I'm also excited
1466
01:20:50,850 --> 01:20:55,580
because I've just been asked to
design a zero-waste supermarket
1467
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,370
that implements
many of the ideas
1468
01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:00,210
that FutureFoodSystem is about.
1469
01:21:00,230 --> 01:21:05,480
Where's Sam? This could be catalyst for
change in the whole country.
1470
01:21:06,690 --> 01:21:08,660
Tree-free packaging and no
1471
01:21:08,690 --> 01:21:12,390
plastic and reusable containers.
1472
01:21:12,850 --> 01:21:14,370
So it's pretty exciting,
1473
01:21:14,390 --> 01:21:17,710
I can't believe that
this has happened.
1474
01:21:17,730 --> 01:21:18,540
I love the idea
1475
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:22,770
that a supermarket could
be completely zero waste.
1476
01:21:23,390 --> 01:21:25,540
So, the organic waste
that we generate
1477
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,290
will get fed into
a biodigester,
1478
01:21:27,310 --> 01:21:31,580
and then the biodigester will
create heat and energy and gas,
1479
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,660
and from that gas we use that
for hot water,
1480
01:21:34,690 --> 01:21:36,330
but, also, we'll have every
1481
01:21:36,350 --> 01:21:38,370
second pane of glass on the roof
1482
01:21:38,390 --> 01:21:39,290
will be a solar panel.
1483
01:21:39,310 --> 01:21:41,910
So, the idea is that
it's a productive building,
1484
01:21:41,940 --> 01:21:45,830
but on a massive scale, it's
actually like a large version
1485
01:21:45,850 --> 01:21:47,160
of FutureFoodSystem really,
1486
01:21:47,190 --> 01:21:48,750
it's a Greenhouse
on a massive scale.
1487
01:21:48,770 --> 01:21:50,830
So, every single element
allows for the production
1488
01:21:50,850 --> 01:21:55,520
of food, but also for the
utilisation of waste on site.
1489
01:21:56,190 --> 01:21:57,500
And so everything
is designed to be
1490
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,290
a circular system
and then, all the packaging,
1491
01:21:59,310 --> 01:22:01,710
so we'll have a washing plant
on site, so people can bring
1492
01:22:01,730 --> 01:22:04,500
their packaging back
to the supermarket
1493
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,480
and it'll get reused.
1494
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,910
There's no stickers on jars,
there's no stickers on fruit,
1495
01:22:09,940 --> 01:22:11,660
there's no stickers
on vegetables,
1496
01:22:11,690 --> 01:22:15,560
because they are the
enemy of recycling.
1497
01:22:16,900 --> 01:22:17,870
So, the rooftop garden,
1498
01:22:17,900 --> 01:22:19,370
so, as you're walking
up the aisles,
1499
01:22:19,390 --> 01:22:22,370
you'll actually look up
and see the plants growing
1500
01:22:22,390 --> 01:22:23,000
above the aisle,
1501
01:22:23,020 --> 01:22:24,910
so it'll be
a double-storey glasshouse
1502
01:22:24,940 --> 01:22:27,370
which allows you to have
productivity above,
1503
01:22:27,390 --> 01:22:29,410
but it also shades the
glasshouse underneath,
1504
01:22:29,440 --> 01:22:32,370
so we'll be able to create
a really amazing environment
1505
01:22:32,390 --> 01:22:33,960
for people walking
in the supermarket,
1506
01:22:33,980 --> 01:22:36,250
it's like a natural
air conditioner.
1507
01:22:36,270 --> 01:22:37,830
It'll use a lot less energy than
1508
01:22:37,850 --> 01:22:40,390
a conventional supermarket.
1509
01:22:42,940 --> 01:22:47,600
I'm a big believer in that
a vision can be realised.
1510
01:22:47,940 --> 01:22:52,390
I think, if you can think it,
you can realise it.
1511
01:22:52,980 --> 01:22:56,520
It's not easy
but I think you can do it.
1512
01:22:59,480 --> 01:23:02,500
It's not a compromise
to do things sustainably,
1513
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,370
we can do everything
that we want
1514
01:23:04,390 --> 01:23:06,940
and have a much better life.
1515
01:23:07,900 --> 01:23:09,500
It doesn't matter how big
the dream
1516
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:11,850
is, you can actually
make it real.
1517
01:23:13,390 --> 01:23:16,770
And that's really what
Greenhouse is about.
1518
01:23:17,940 --> 01:23:21,730
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