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(gentle music)
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Sebastian Bach:
All right,
here it is,
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this is the song.
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This
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fuckin' rules.
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This is-
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(guitar strings strumming)
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This is beautiful
to me, man.
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(soft guitar music)
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("24 Hours A Day"
by Triumph)
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♪ I'll tell you
sweetly now
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♪ Why I can't
come to bed
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♪ I'm listening
to the music
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♪ That's playing
in my head ♪
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Okay, let's talk
about Triumph.
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(hand clap)
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Boom.
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Bubbles:
Are you rolling?
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Fuckin' roll 'er up!
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Triumph documentary.
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Take one, mark it.
(hand clap)
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(guitar strings strumming)
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John 5:
I was obsessed,
you know.
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I had to see
this band live.
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♪ I see myself up on
the stage and holding ♪
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Sebastian Bach:
Triumph were gods
in our town.
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John 5:
I knew every song
and I bought the shirt.
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Oh, that's my
old shirt, man.
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I think I had the
coolest one, though.
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Short-sleeved
sweatshirts were cool.
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♪ It's late
at night and
I can't sleep
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♪ I gotta write some
rock and roll ♪
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John 5:
I was like,
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how are these guys not
as big as Led Zeppelin?
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(crowd cheering)
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Announcer:
Please welcome from
Toronto, Canada,
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the rock & roll machine,
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Triumph!
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(crowd cheering)
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Gil Moore:
I'd like to see some
hands in the air!
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I wanna see some
allied forces out there
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making a little
bit of noise,
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you know what I'm
talking about?
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Live rock & roll should be
big and great and fantastic.
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Rik Emmett:
That's the element
of rock & roll
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that keeps adolescent
youth so gonzo about it.
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Do you wanna
rock and roll?!
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Mike Levine:
That gathering of 14,000
people in a hockey rink
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is the epitome
of what we do.
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Lawrence Gowan:
They had so many lights
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it looked like a used
car parking lot.
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Brian Posehn:
A lot of Flying-Vs
and feathered hair.
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Bubbles:
Rik Emmett wore
really tight pants.
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Danko Jones:
And there's Levine rockin' a
'stache in a hockey jersey.
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How Canadian
can you get?
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These guys are
from Torontoch:
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and they're
blowing shit up!
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(hard rock music)
(explosions booming)
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Announcer:
Triumph! Triumph! Triumph!
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Gil Moore:
Overkill has always been
one of my philosophies.
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(explosions booming)
(people cheering)
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Fan:
Triumph is number one!
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Eddie Trunk:
And I was just
like, whoa!
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This jumped out of
the radio at me.
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♪ Lay it on the line
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Steve Wozniak:
Triumph stood out a little
bit special and different
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and put on a great show.
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John Roberts:
Suddenly people realized this
Canadian music is damn good
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and we should be
promoting it to the world.
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John 5:
They just kept going
and going and going
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and then all of a sudden,
that's it.
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Nancy Inch:
That day changed the life
of a Triumph fan forever.
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Man:
We never got to say
goodbye to them
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and they never got to
say goodbye to us.
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Paulette Borkowski:
And wmissing something.
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(loud rock music)
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Gil Moore:
(shouting)
Triumph loves you!
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(crowd cheering)
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Gil Moore:
Metalworks is like
Triumph's home.
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We came here in the
early part of '78.
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You know, we're now the
oldest studio in the country,
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believe it or not,
yeah.
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Hey, Marc.
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But it doesn't feel
like coming to work.
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You know, I come here
'cause this is where I hang.
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("Magic Power" by Triumph)
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Gil Moore:
This is really the only piece of
Metalworks that's as it was.
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It's like an old violin
or an old guitar.
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The character of this
room will never change,
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it'll be here until the
building's torn down.
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You know, obviously Triumph
was the genesis of it,
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but the studio
itself has been
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part of a lot of
recording stories,
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you know,
over forty years.
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All the artists that
have come through here
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and the music they've
made that's on the radio
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or Spotify or wherever,
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it makes it part
of history.
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Self-admittedly,
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I'm just a pack rat.
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The band would be going
from city to city to city
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and Mike and Rik
would always think,
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oh, there goes Gil packing
a flight case full of stuff
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to take back to Toronto.
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Just goes on and
on and on and on.
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We collected an
unbelievable amount
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of historical
information on the band.
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Cassettes, press clippings,
boxes and boxes.
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Not for sale Triumph album.
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Master tapes.
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A postcard.
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Backstage passes.
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Piles of fan mail.
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A mobile.
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So these would hang
in record stores.
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A Rock & Roll Machine poster.
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An original Attic
"Magic Power" vinyl.
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A dub.
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Junk. Sticker.
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T-shirts.
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This is amazing.
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What that is,
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is an original first
generation Triumph shirt.
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I think we sold them for,
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if I'm not mistaken,
it was about six bucks.
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Yeah, try to buy a Beyonce
shirt for six bucks.
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Oh my God.
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I don't think I've heard
this for 25 years at least.
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This was the very
first one for Triumph.
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This went number one
in Dryden, Ontario,
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isn't that an
interesting fact?
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Who goes to
number one in Dryden?
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♪ I took you in and tried
to make you feel at home ♪
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Gil Moore:
Sounds like a
really young guy.
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So that's the first thing
that goes through my head.
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I never liked
my own voice
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but, you know,
that guy's young,
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that's for sure.
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Sounds like a kid.
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(chuckles)
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("Hobo" by Triumph)
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Gil Moore:
When I was a teenager,
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I was trying to
get into bands
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with musicians who were five,
six years older than I was,
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and they were far more
skilled than I was,
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so it took a lot of nerve
just to kind of, you know,
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show up and try to
get in the band.
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But eventually I finally
passed an audition
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and I joined
Mondo Plus Four,
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went from Mondo Plus Four
to Sherman & Peabody,
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and Sherman & Peabody morphed
into Abernathy Shagnaster,
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it was all very hard rock.
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We'd come into schools,
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full-on Marshall
stacks on both sides,
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two lead guitar players,
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louder than, you know,
Iron Butterfly.
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(rock music)
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Gil Moore:
Teachers go like this and go,
you know,
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can't you play some
Beatles covers?
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Or agents said,
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can't you guys get
matching suits
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and then we can
book you in bars?
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So I figured out how
to become an agent
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and get an agent's licence
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and get aggressive about
booking my own band.
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That was kind of the
beginning of me thinking,
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when the industry
tells you something
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and they say go east,
I go west.
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And that was kind of
a pivotal moment.
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(explosion)
(glass breaking)
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Gil Moore:
Back then it was
experimenting with
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different types
of homemade pyro,
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building speakers,
buying amplifiers.
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And I bought a truck to
move the stuff around.
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One thing led to another
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and that's how I met Mike.
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(rock music)
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(explosion)
(glass breaking)
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Okay, let's get the
timeline chart out,
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the whiteboard.
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Gil may have a whole different
timeline than I do, so-
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Man:
That's okay.
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I am always right,
he is always wrong.
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(laughter)
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(groovy 60s music)
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Mike Levine:
I grew up playing piano,
guitar and bass.
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And by the early 70s,
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I had been in lots of bands
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which just went nowhere,
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so being a professional
gigging musician,
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not on my dance card.
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(upbeat music)
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Mike Levine:
So then I started working
at a record label.
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So I learned a lot about
the record business
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and I got to know people
that made the music
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and people that
promoted the music,
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that had to put the
records in their trunk
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and put hundred dollar bills
into the sleeves
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and they gave them to radio
guys to get it on the air.
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For young a kid to be around
these professional guys
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that make huge records,
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taught me a lot about
how the people at the top
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don't start at the top,
they start at the bottom,
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and it's a lifetime of work
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up to the point where
you're successful.
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(70s rock music)
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Mike Levine:
When I met Gil,
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he booked bands
and he had a band
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and I had a PA business,
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the equipment
was in his garage
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and at that point I
was also quasi-co-managing
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a band called Motherlode,
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and I used to rent
stuff off Gil.
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Broken down stuff
that he rented me,
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it didn't work
half the time
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and I'd have to take it back
and get new stuff off him.
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But we became
kind of buddies
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and I realized
that he was smart,
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except he had
lousy PA gear.
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♪ Everything I did for ya
always turned out wrong ♪
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Gil Moore:
At that point in my band,
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the musicians kept changing
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and I knew that Mike was
a really good bass player.
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So I called Mike and I go-
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Can you do me a favour?
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I'm in-between
bass players,
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my guy quit,
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would you fill in?
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It's not a serious band,
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we don't play
original music,
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we just play some covers.
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You know all the songs,
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you can play them
in your sleep.
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I said no. Next call.
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(phone rings)
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It's only three weeks.
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It's really low stress
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and we make pretty
good money.
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I need help,
I can't find anybody.
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No, not interested.
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So I got all this
sound equipment.
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Sorry, I can't help you.
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We got Marshall stacks.
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Blah, blah, blah.
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We got lots of jobs.
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Wah, wah, wah.
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I've got jobs and jobs and jobs.
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I can't take him calling me
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and badgering me
about it anymore.
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Jobs and jobs and
jobs and jobs.
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He basically,
power of persuasion,
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talked me into it.
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(rock guitar riff)
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Mike Levine:
Well, the
money was okay.
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We were playing cover
songs in high schools,
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but it was fun
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and I realized how
much I missed it.
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That's when Gil and I
started chatting about
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let's do something serious.
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What if we took
one more shot,
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like really dug in.
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Mike Levine:
The vision was to
create a superstar,
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arena-filling,
three-piece hard rock band.
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Gil Moore:
But our part-time
band that we play in,
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that's not gonna be it.
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Plus, Attic Records
had written us a cheque,
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we had a record deal.
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Sam Dunn:
How did you get a record
deal without a band?
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I have no fucking idea.
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Honestly, it's like,
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I'm a pretty good salesman.
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(upbeat rock music)
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Gil Moore:
Mike and I really had
the eye of the tiger
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and we went searching for
this, you know, god on gui.
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We're picturing
like a Jimmy Hendrix,
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and, uh, that's
not easy to find.
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♪ I've been searching
since you first left me
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♪ Trying to find
someone new ♪
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(dog barks)
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Marc:
Hello.
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How are ya, man?
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No, no, no,
that's Pico.
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(dog barks)
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Rik Emmett:
All right, you're gonna
go up to your cart.
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(soft guitar music)
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♪
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Rik Emmett:
In the early seventies,
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I was still living at
home with my parents
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and my girlfriend and I wad
to move out and be togethe.
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By this time,
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I'd been in bands
that had played
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straight mainstream-ish
kinds of music,
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so I was disenchanted.
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Plus, I-I really
wanted to be
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in something that was
playing progressive rock.
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(rock guitar music)
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Rik Emmett:
Act III, and it
was progressive,
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but we were playing
way over our heads.
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Yes medleys,
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King Crimson,
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Gentle Giant.
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(hard rock music)
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Neill Dixon:
Because we booked
so many clubs
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and I was out looking
at bands every night,
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as soon as I came
across Act III,
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I knew that this was going
to be a happening band
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and they were
building a reputation
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quite quickly
because of Rik,
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so there was
some notoriety.
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If you're looking
for a guitar player,
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there's only a handful
of great guitar players
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and he was one
of the best.
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(rock guitar riff)
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Rik Emmett:
Gil and Mike,
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they had posters
already printed
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and the word was out
along the grapevine
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that there was this
thing called Triumph
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that was trying to
find guitarists.
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I remember playing
that Hollywood Tavern
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and there's two lanky,
skinny guys with long hair.
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Those guys look
like musicians.
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Why are they here?
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Levine just looked like
something biblical,
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like really,
really long hair
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and then this
incredibly thick beard.
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And Gil was a
tall, skinny guy
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and he was wearing one
of those hats of his.
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He knew we were
looking at him
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and his playing
was phenomenal.
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Mike Levine:
Visually, he was awesome;
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singing, he was awesome.
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Rik Emmett:
During my performance
I did a flying kick
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and my shoe came off.
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Gil Moore:
And the shoe goes
flying across the stage,
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miraculously he
doesn't miss a beat.
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I look at Mike,
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he looks at
me and we go,
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that's him.
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Mike Levine:
He's the guy.
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He's a little short but,
you know, that's okay.
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♪ I'm all right
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Rik Emmett:
At some point I got
called over to their table.
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Mike Levine:
We sat down with
Rik and had a chat.
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Rik Emmett:
At a certain point,
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Mike Levine slid an
Attic Records cheque
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for me to look at and say,
we're legit,
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we've got a record deal,
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there's a record
company cheque.
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So if I join this band
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the ability to make records
is not that far off,
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it's a strong possibility
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'cause they know how
to make it happen.
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00:13:43,255 --> 00:13:45,224
And Triumph said,
whether we work or not,
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we'll guarantee you
175 bucks a week.
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And so, that, with my
girlfriend's earnings,
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we could rent a
crappy little house.
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Act III would not
have made that possible,
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there wasn't a
consistent 175 a week.
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So, meeting them,
I went,
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maybe there's a
stronger marriage here
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in terms of a
common ground
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that's going to
be a partnership.
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00:14:07,012 --> 00:14:13,018
(rock music)
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00:14:15,054 --> 00:14:16,388
(boat horn tooting)
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00:14:16,422 --> 00:14:22,862
(acoustic guitar music)
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00:14:22,895 --> 00:14:24,029
Nancy Inch:
My name is Nancy Inch
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and I am a
Triumph junkie.
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I am probably one of
their greatest fans.
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00:14:29,568 --> 00:14:31,036
And in my spare time,
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00:14:31,070 --> 00:14:34,206
I participate in
Facebook groups
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created for Triumph
fans exclusively,
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00:14:37,243 --> 00:14:39,411
and we celebrate
everything Triumph,
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videos and pictures
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00:14:40,913 --> 00:14:42,882
and concert footage
and stories,
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00:14:42,915 --> 00:14:45,918
and we live vicariously
every day through the page.
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00:14:47,286 --> 00:14:50,089
I wrote a letter to Gil
really just letting him know
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that the magic power of
Triumph is alive and well
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and thriving
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and that they
are celebrated.
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00:14:55,828 --> 00:14:57,796
And we're here,
we're supporting you,
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we haven't gone anywhere.
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("Magic Power"
by Triumph)
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Gil Moore:
From time to time,
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fans come in from out of
town and visit Metalworks
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00:15:07,740 --> 00:15:13,045
and it fascinates me how
strong their feelings are
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00:15:13,078 --> 00:15:14,914
after all these years,
for the band.
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00:15:15,915 --> 00:15:17,082
Fan:
Annapolis, Maryland.
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00:15:17,783 --> 00:15:19,084
Triumph's Metalworks Studio.
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It's a rock & roll studio.
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00:15:21,954 --> 00:15:23,122
The band Triumph.
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00:15:25,457 --> 00:15:26,659
Thanks.
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00:15:28,794 --> 00:15:32,598
Gil Moore:
This idea of a fan event
started with Nancy Inch,
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who said,
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would you let a group of
Triumph fans tour Metalworks?
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00:15:37,636 --> 00:15:40,773
And it was such a
heart-warming kind of requ.
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00:15:40,806 --> 00:15:44,109
And we've always felt this
huge debt to our fans,
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um, always will,
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00:15:46,145 --> 00:15:47,980
and I went,
of course we'll do it!
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00:15:50,816 --> 00:15:52,785
We're really lucky
in the sense that
402
00:15:52,818 --> 00:15:56,021
we have a big live event
sound and lighting company
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00:15:56,055 --> 00:15:57,156
and audio visuals.
404
00:15:57,189 --> 00:16:00,526
So to do the kind of
event we're talking about
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00:16:00,559 --> 00:16:02,494
it's all there in
our warehouses.
406
00:16:05,130 --> 00:16:06,098
This is a great warehouse
407
00:16:06,131 --> 00:16:09,268
because it's a double
wide for starters,
408
00:16:09,301 --> 00:16:11,437
so a little more elbow room
409
00:16:11,470 --> 00:16:14,440
and we'll clear the
whole floor area
410
00:16:14,473 --> 00:16:15,941
and dream something up
411
00:16:15,975 --> 00:16:18,143
that we think will
be fun for the fans.
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00:16:22,481 --> 00:16:23,782
Mike and Rik and I
have talked about it
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00:16:23,816 --> 00:16:26,618
and if we can play
a couple songs,
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00:16:26,652 --> 00:16:29,655
absolutely we want to try
to do that, you know,
415
00:16:29,688 --> 00:16:31,357
to play loud and
to play strong,
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00:16:31,390 --> 00:16:32,658
it's an endurance contest,
417
00:16:32,691 --> 00:16:34,693
so that's the tough part.
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00:16:36,729 --> 00:16:37,863
Mike Levine:
We haven't played
in a long time,
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me personally,
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00:16:40,065 --> 00:16:41,166
in a band.
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00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:42,534
I did practice
a little bit
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00:16:43,869 --> 00:16:45,704
but, uh, we'll see.
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00:16:47,206 --> 00:16:48,841
Rik Emmett:
I think it'll
be nice from a,
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you know, sort of closing
a chapter for the band.
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00:16:52,578 --> 00:16:54,713
There's a lot more
history now behind it,
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00:16:54,747 --> 00:16:56,682
but it's still kind of
just a similar process
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00:16:56,715 --> 00:16:57,683
where we're going
to build up
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00:16:57,716 --> 00:16:59,718
and then just play
a little gig.
429
00:17:02,688 --> 00:17:06,358
This is about the three
of us having an integrity
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00:17:06,392 --> 00:17:07,826
for what's happening.
431
00:17:07,860 --> 00:17:09,828
And, you know,
that'll take
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00:17:09,862 --> 00:17:13,665
several more rehearsals
to get the thing to gel.
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00:17:13,699 --> 00:17:15,534
Well, I've done the
wah-wah thing, right?
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00:17:15,567 --> 00:17:18,003
(guitar jamming)
435
00:17:18,037 --> 00:17:21,340
(cymbals ringing)
436
00:17:21,373 --> 00:17:23,008
(vocalization)
437
00:17:23,042 --> 00:17:26,045
(guitar riffing)
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00:17:26,078 --> 00:17:27,713
Gil Moore:
Back in the 70s
when we got Rik
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00:17:27,746 --> 00:17:29,715
we went, oh my god,
we've got it,
440
00:17:29,748 --> 00:17:33,018
like we've got the exact
group that we dreamed of
441
00:17:33,052 --> 00:17:34,720
but we know it's
going to be bigger
442
00:17:34,753 --> 00:17:37,089
and more exciting
and more dramatic
443
00:17:37,122 --> 00:17:39,591
and we're going to do things
that other bands don't do.
444
00:17:39,625 --> 00:17:41,560
So, yeah,
Alice Cooper's cool,
445
00:17:41,593 --> 00:17:42,795
KISS is cool,
446
00:17:42,828 --> 00:17:45,731
and the psychedelic bands
from the sixties were cool,
447
00:17:45,764 --> 00:17:50,569
and we're going to take cues
from every one of these eras
448
00:17:50,602 --> 00:17:52,771
and do something
completely different.
449
00:17:55,107 --> 00:17:56,442
John Roberts:
Back in those days,
450
00:17:56,475 --> 00:17:58,277
I was working
for CHUM Radio
451
00:17:58,310 --> 00:18:00,746
and all of the
kids in the
neighbourhood
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00:18:00,779 --> 00:18:02,347
I was only 18
at the time,
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00:18:02,381 --> 00:18:04,349
knew that there
was a rock band
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00:18:04,383 --> 00:18:06,018
that was living
down the street
455
00:18:06,051 --> 00:18:08,887
because we would hear music
emanating from the basement
456
00:18:08,921 --> 00:18:10,122
every once in a while.
457
00:18:10,155 --> 00:18:11,924
And there was always trucks
that were coming and going
458
00:18:11,957 --> 00:18:13,725
and putting things
into the garage
459
00:18:13,759 --> 00:18:15,227
and taking them
out of the garage.
460
00:18:15,260 --> 00:18:18,063
Most bands were travelling
around in minivans at the time,
461
00:18:18,097 --> 00:18:19,231
well, they had a minivan
for a little while
462
00:18:19,264 --> 00:18:20,766
but then they bought
a 10-ton truck
463
00:18:20,799 --> 00:18:22,267
and they ended up with
a tractor trailer
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00:18:22,301 --> 00:18:24,403
that they would roll up
to these small venues
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00:18:24,436 --> 00:18:25,938
in and around
the Toronto area
466
00:18:25,971 --> 00:18:28,240
and they would start unloading
all of this equipment.
467
00:18:28,273 --> 00:18:29,608
(horn honking)
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00:18:29,641 --> 00:18:30,943
Rik Emmett:
When we played high schools,
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00:18:30,976 --> 00:18:33,912
no one had ever seen an
act that did what we did
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00:18:33,946 --> 00:18:35,581
on the scale
that we did,
471
00:18:35,614 --> 00:18:36,748
at that level.
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00:18:36,782 --> 00:18:37,916
(rock music)
473
00:18:37,950 --> 00:18:38,917
Rik Emmett:
It was like...
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00:18:38,951 --> 00:18:40,185
(truck honks)
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00:18:40,252 --> 00:18:41,787
Rik Emmett:
They're bringing a
transport trailer truck
476
00:18:41,820 --> 00:18:43,789
into our school parking lot,
477
00:18:43,822 --> 00:18:44,790
what the hell?!
478
00:18:44,823 --> 00:18:48,127
(rock music)
479
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,328
Rik Emmett:
We had principals
that got mad
480
00:18:49,361 --> 00:18:51,630
because the trucks
wrecked their grass.
481
00:18:51,663 --> 00:18:54,967
(loud rock music)
482
00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,135
Yeah!
483
00:18:56,168 --> 00:18:57,503
Rik Emmett:
And loading this gear in
484
00:18:57,536 --> 00:18:59,972
and setting up and teachers
and students going like,
485
00:19:00,005 --> 00:19:00,973
oh my god,
486
00:19:01,006 --> 00:19:03,575
something amazing
is about to happen!
487
00:19:03,609 --> 00:19:08,113
♪ Don't take my
life away from me ♪
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Gil Moore:
We had a desire
to be theatrical
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00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:13,585
and be
somewhat outrageous
490
00:19:13,619 --> 00:19:15,454
but we had no budget,
or very little,
491
00:19:15,487 --> 00:19:17,289
so Mike and Rik would
come out on stage
492
00:19:17,322 --> 00:19:19,158
with sparklers
on their guitars.
493
00:19:19,825 --> 00:19:20,959
We had the mirror wheel,
494
00:19:20,993 --> 00:19:23,462
which was this rotating
disc of broken mirrors
495
00:19:23,495 --> 00:19:25,831
that we'd shine
a spotlight on.
496
00:19:25,864 --> 00:19:27,633
And we had so
much dry ice
497
00:19:27,666 --> 00:19:30,969
that there would be this
wall of fog on the stage.
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00:19:31,003 --> 00:19:32,471
Rik Emmett:
And people are
going, whoa,
499
00:19:32,504 --> 00:19:35,641
they have dry ice in a
high school, you know.
500
00:19:35,674 --> 00:19:37,976
And they're in a cloud!
501
00:19:38,010 --> 00:19:45,851
(loud rock music)
502
00:19:48,086 --> 00:19:49,521
Gil Moore:
I can't believe it.
503
00:19:49,555 --> 00:19:51,690
This is the Triumph torch.
504
00:19:51,723 --> 00:19:52,891
This was a beauty.
505
00:19:54,226 --> 00:19:55,227
It's built to last.
506
00:19:55,260 --> 00:19:57,062
This thing is
like heavy duty.
507
00:19:57,095 --> 00:19:58,864
One day I decided
we needed a torch.
508
00:19:58,897 --> 00:20:00,199
(laughter)
509
00:20:00,232 --> 00:20:03,869
So I did what any
torch seeker would do
510
00:20:03,902 --> 00:20:07,239
and I looked in the
Yellow Pages under "torch".
511
00:20:08,740 --> 00:20:11,410
And I found a company
called Rexo-Therm.
512
00:20:12,244 --> 00:20:13,412
I drove down
to Rexo-Therm,
513
00:20:13,445 --> 00:20:15,047
a guy comes out of the
back and he comes up,
514
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,048
can I help you, sir?
515
00:20:16,081 --> 00:20:18,750
I said, yes, sir,
I'd like to buy a torch.
516
00:20:18,784 --> 00:20:20,919
What type of torch
would you like?
517
00:20:20,953 --> 00:20:22,921
The biggest one
you have, sir.
518
00:20:22,955 --> 00:20:24,256
What are you going
to do with it?
519
00:20:24,289 --> 00:20:26,091
I have a rock band
named Triumph,
520
00:20:26,124 --> 00:20:27,426
we need a torch.
521
00:20:27,459 --> 00:20:28,427
He's got this thing,
522
00:20:28,460 --> 00:20:29,428
he brings it over,
523
00:20:29,461 --> 00:20:31,263
and he goes,
stand back.
524
00:20:31,296 --> 00:20:34,433
Gas comes in here
through a hose.
525
00:20:34,466 --> 00:20:35,934
This is a gate valve
526
00:20:35,968 --> 00:20:39,271
that controls how
much gas goes in.
527
00:20:39,304 --> 00:20:40,606
This is the manifold.
528
00:20:40,639 --> 00:20:42,274
This thing that looks
like a spark plug
529
00:20:42,307 --> 00:20:45,611
is the igniter switch
that fires this baby.
530
00:20:45,644 --> 00:20:47,946
And this is where the
gas comes out and woosh!
531
00:20:47,980 --> 00:20:50,949
(laughter)
532
00:20:50,983 --> 00:20:55,020
He does this, then he goes
over with, uh, an igniter.
533
00:20:55,053 --> 00:20:56,488
(booming explosion)
534
00:20:56,521 --> 00:21:00,192
This flame goes
like fourteen feet.
535
00:21:01,627 --> 00:21:02,761
And I went,
I'll take it.
536
00:21:02,794 --> 00:21:04,129
(laughter)
537
00:21:04,162 --> 00:21:11,136
(loud rock music)
538
00:21:11,169 --> 00:21:16,608
♪
539
00:21:16,642 --> 00:21:17,943
Gowan:
In the seventies,
540
00:21:17,976 --> 00:21:21,313
there was a club
scene in Toronto
that was so vibrant
541
00:21:21,346 --> 00:21:25,651
and so vital to the
rock music that we know
542
00:21:25,684 --> 00:21:28,020
that-that arose
from that era,
543
00:21:28,053 --> 00:21:30,188
and Triumph falls
squarely into that period
544
00:21:30,222 --> 00:21:31,690
and that's when I
first saw them.
545
00:21:31,723 --> 00:21:33,992
Right off the
bat I noticed
546
00:21:34,026 --> 00:21:36,361
they had enough gear to
play Maple Leaf Gardens.
547
00:21:36,395 --> 00:21:37,863
And although that
sounds like,
548
00:21:37,896 --> 00:21:39,665
I'm not making a
joke about that,
549
00:21:39,698 --> 00:21:41,500
that was really important
550
00:21:41,533 --> 00:21:45,504
because they had declared
themselves above the pack.
551
00:21:45,537 --> 00:21:52,010
("Rocky Mountain Way"
by Triumph)
552
00:21:52,044 --> 00:21:53,879
Rik Emmett:
Canadians loved
cover bands,
553
00:21:53,912 --> 00:21:55,013
they just loved them,
554
00:21:55,047 --> 00:21:57,716
so you couldn't find
and build an audience
555
00:21:57,749 --> 00:22:01,053
unless you played the game
that the audience wanted.
556
00:22:01,086 --> 00:22:02,521
So we were playing
led Zeppelin
557
00:22:02,554 --> 00:22:04,489
and Deep Purple
and Hendrix.
558
00:22:04,523 --> 00:22:06,825
And in our rehearsals
we had decided
559
00:22:06,858 --> 00:22:09,995
that the closing number
of the show would be
560
00:22:10,028 --> 00:22:11,997
Rocky Mountain Way
because it had that
561
00:22:12,030 --> 00:22:13,332
bam bam!
562
00:22:13,365 --> 00:22:14,666
(guitar riff)
563
00:22:14,700 --> 00:22:15,834
Rik Emmett:
Bam bam!
564
00:22:15,867 --> 00:22:16,935
Gil's thing was like,
565
00:22:16,968 --> 00:22:20,339
you could have flash
pots on both sides
566
00:22:20,372 --> 00:22:22,674
and you could either
go boom, boom
567
00:22:22,708 --> 00:22:25,010
or you could
go a boom, boom!
568
00:22:25,043 --> 00:22:27,679
♪ Rocky Mountain way
569
00:22:27,713 --> 00:22:33,518
♪ Is better than
the way we had ♪
570
00:22:33,552 --> 00:22:36,254
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah
571
00:22:36,288 --> 00:22:41,293
♪
572
00:22:43,795 --> 00:22:48,400
(soft guitar music)
573
00:22:48,433 --> 00:22:49,901
Gil Moore:
We started in
the era where
574
00:22:49,935 --> 00:22:51,069
getting in the studio
575
00:22:51,103 --> 00:22:53,071
was like getting to
meet the Wizard of Oz,
576
00:22:53,105 --> 00:22:55,741
it was something you hoped
would happen to you someday,
577
00:22:55,774 --> 00:22:58,744
and the transition hits
you like a ton of bricks.
578
00:22:58,777 --> 00:23:03,181
So, all the chutzpah and all
the energy and the stage slides
579
00:23:03,215 --> 00:23:05,517
and antics that
we would do live,
580
00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:06,885
were meaningless
in the studio.
581
00:23:06,918 --> 00:23:09,388
That's when you have to learn
how to be a better musician.
582
00:23:10,255 --> 00:23:12,724
Rik Emmett:
Gil and I had
written a few songs
583
00:23:12,758 --> 00:23:14,893
but we just, we didn't
have enough material.
584
00:23:14,926 --> 00:23:16,128
And Mike and
Gil would say,
585
00:23:16,161 --> 00:23:18,397
well, was there something
that you played in your band
586
00:23:18,430 --> 00:23:20,399
before you joined
us that's an original?
587
00:23:20,432 --> 00:23:22,934
I went, yeah, you know,
"Blinding Light Show", maybe.
588
00:23:22,968 --> 00:23:24,069
I'm telling Gil,
no, no,
589
00:23:24,102 --> 00:23:25,737
you're going to have to
play a floor tom roll,
590
00:23:25,771 --> 00:23:27,239
it's gotta sound
like a tympani,
591
00:23:27,272 --> 00:23:29,574
(imitates drum roll)
592
00:23:29,608 --> 00:23:31,943
You know, like, and
Gil's going like, what?!
593
00:23:32,944 --> 00:23:34,946
These are the dreaded
mallets of death.
594
00:23:37,282 --> 00:23:39,951
(background laughter)
And, uh, every Rik Emmett's
song ever written
595
00:23:39,985 --> 00:23:44,156
(background laughter)
requires these mallets of death
to be utilized, you know,
596
00:23:44,189 --> 00:23:48,293
in a sort of a whoosh
kinda thing, you know.
597
00:23:48,326 --> 00:23:49,628
That's why we did
well together,
598
00:23:49,661 --> 00:23:51,463
I have the mallets,
he writes the songs.
599
00:23:51,496 --> 00:23:52,631
Man:
Can we hear a
sample of that?
600
00:23:52,664 --> 00:23:53,999
(rolling cymbal)
601
00:23:57,169 --> 00:24:01,139
Rik Emmett:
And then the wind
literally is me going-
602
00:24:01,173 --> 00:24:02,908
(blows heavily)
603
00:24:02,941 --> 00:24:04,276
And then doing
another track of-
604
00:24:04,309 --> 00:24:06,077
(softly blows)
605
00:24:06,111 --> 00:24:08,580
And then putting the tracks
together and making the wind,
606
00:24:08,613 --> 00:24:10,782
'cause we didn't have
anything to make wind.
607
00:24:11,817 --> 00:24:18,457
("Blinding Light Show"
by Triumph)
608
00:24:18,490 --> 00:24:20,792
Mike Levine:
"Blinding Light Show"
is a very cool song.
609
00:24:20,826 --> 00:24:22,327
It's heavy,
it's light,
610
00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:25,130
and it's got all kinds of
different changes through it.
611
00:24:25,163 --> 00:24:27,999
It opened the door
for us as a band
612
00:24:28,033 --> 00:24:29,801
to step out
whenever we wanted.
613
00:24:29,835 --> 00:24:32,304
We could, you know,
have an acoustic guitar thing
614
00:24:32,337 --> 00:24:33,638
anytime we wanted,
you know.
615
00:24:33,672 --> 00:24:35,307
We could have an
orchestral sounding piece
616
00:24:35,340 --> 00:24:36,641
whenever we wanted.
617
00:24:36,675 --> 00:24:38,310
It was a little
bit different.
618
00:24:38,343 --> 00:24:42,013
♪ And from where I stand,
I reach my hand
619
00:24:42,047 --> 00:24:45,350
♪ To catch a love blow
620
00:24:45,383 --> 00:24:48,720
♪ But the selfish stare
through electric air
621
00:24:48,753 --> 00:24:51,223
♪ Is a blinding
light show ♪
622
00:24:51,256 --> 00:24:54,025
Bubbles:
I got into Triumph 'cause I was
playing the guitar back then
623
00:24:54,059 --> 00:24:55,360
and I was into Rush.
624
00:24:55,393 --> 00:24:56,862
Same band.
625
00:24:56,895 --> 00:24:57,863
What?
626
00:24:57,896 --> 00:24:59,130
Same band.
627
00:24:59,164 --> 00:25:01,032
Bubbles:
Rush and Triumph,
they're two different bands
628
00:25:01,066 --> 00:25:02,968
with six different people.
629
00:25:03,001 --> 00:25:04,669
You could easily turn
these guys into Rush,
630
00:25:04,703 --> 00:25:06,304
no problem,
with some makeup.
631
00:25:06,338 --> 00:25:07,672
So you think
that's Geddy Lee?
632
00:25:08,673 --> 00:25:11,009
And he's just glued on
a big fuckin' moustache.
633
00:25:11,042 --> 00:25:12,477
It just, it could be.
634
00:25:12,511 --> 00:25:15,514
You never saw them
play together.
635
00:25:15,547 --> 00:25:17,649
Never saw them in
the same building,
636
00:25:17,682 --> 00:25:18,884
Same band.
637
00:25:19,518 --> 00:25:20,619
(rock music)
638
00:25:20,652 --> 00:25:25,357
♪ And while the crowd keeps
Calling out "Hoorah" ♪
639
00:25:25,390 --> 00:25:27,225
Danko Jones:
There's elements
about Triumph,
640
00:25:27,259 --> 00:25:29,394
that trump
elements of Rush.
641
00:25:29,427 --> 00:25:32,030
But as a Triumph
fan growing up,
642
00:25:32,063 --> 00:25:34,866
I had to deal with
like people going,
643
00:25:34,900 --> 00:25:36,868
why do you like Triumph?
644
00:25:36,902 --> 00:25:38,203
Because they're amazing
645
00:25:38,236 --> 00:25:41,373
and they've got a
guitar hero that slays,
646
00:25:41,406 --> 00:25:42,707
so fuck you!
647
00:25:42,741 --> 00:25:44,042
I like Triumph.
648
00:25:44,075 --> 00:25:46,578
I've chosen Triumph
as well as Rush.
649
00:25:46,611 --> 00:25:47,879
It's not an either/or thing.
650
00:25:47,913 --> 00:25:50,081
I'm not on a home team
or a visiting team.
651
00:25:50,115 --> 00:25:52,083
They're both from Toronto.
652
00:25:52,117 --> 00:25:54,052
John Roberts:
Triumph unfairly get
compared to Rush
653
00:25:54,085 --> 00:25:56,087
because Rush came out
a little bit earlier
654
00:25:56,121 --> 00:25:57,956
and Rush got success
in the United States
655
00:25:57,989 --> 00:25:59,090
a little bit earlier.
656
00:25:59,124 --> 00:26:00,091
And then the fact that,
657
00:26:00,158 --> 00:26:02,227
oh, here comes another
power trio from Canada,
658
00:26:02,260 --> 00:26:05,030
and in the same way that
Rush broke out in Cleveland,
659
00:26:05,063 --> 00:26:06,364
when they delivered a
copy of "Working Man"
660
00:26:06,398 --> 00:26:07,866
to a local radio station,
661
00:26:07,899 --> 00:26:10,368
San Antonio was the
kickoff for Triumph.
662
00:26:10,402 --> 00:26:12,037
(hard rock music)
663
00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:13,705
Radio DJ:
In San Antonio, Texas,
664
00:26:13,738 --> 00:26:18,376
this is KISS,
K-I-S-S FM at 99.5.
665
00:26:18,410 --> 00:26:19,878
Mike Levine:
There was this
radio station,
666
00:26:19,911 --> 00:26:20,879
KISS FM,
667
00:26:20,912 --> 00:26:22,581
and there was two
hard rock freaks,
668
00:26:22,614 --> 00:26:24,049
Joe Anthony
and Lou Roney,
669
00:26:24,082 --> 00:26:27,085
and they started playing
"Blinding Light Show".
670
00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:32,591
The phones lit up and
kind of became a hit
671
00:26:32,624 --> 00:26:36,094
and it spread from
San Antonio into Austin,
672
00:26:36,127 --> 00:26:38,496
into Corpus Christi
and to those areas.
673
00:26:39,831 --> 00:26:40,966
And then one day we
get the phone call.
674
00:26:40,999 --> 00:26:41,967
(phone rings)
675
00:26:42,067 --> 00:26:44,269
Will you guys come down
and headline a concert?
676
00:26:44,302 --> 00:26:48,440
(hard rock music)
677
00:26:48,473 --> 00:26:51,610
Gil Moore:
Sammy Hagar's headlining
with The Runaways
678
00:26:51,643 --> 00:26:53,945
and Yesterday & Today
on the bill,
679
00:26:53,979 --> 00:26:56,281
at the Municipal Auditorium
in San Antonio,
680
00:26:56,314 --> 00:26:58,149
which is a 5,500 seater,
681
00:26:58,183 --> 00:27:00,285
so not a small
venue at all.
682
00:27:00,318 --> 00:27:02,587
Sammy bails out
on the show.
683
00:27:03,788 --> 00:27:05,924
And so the
proposition to us is,
684
00:27:05,957 --> 00:27:08,627
can you take
Sammy Hagar's place?
685
00:27:08,660 --> 00:27:09,628
And we realized that
686
00:27:09,661 --> 00:27:11,596
we don't really know
what we're doing, right?
687
00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:13,965
(stammers) We're capable
of playing high schools
688
00:27:13,999 --> 00:27:15,433
and bars at this point
689
00:27:15,467 --> 00:27:16,935
and here we get a
shot at the big time.
690
00:27:16,968 --> 00:27:22,107
♪ We've been five years
working in a rock and roll band
691
00:27:22,140 --> 00:27:25,777
♪ Blasting heavy metal
out across the land ♪
692
00:27:25,810 --> 00:27:26,945
Mike Levine:
When we came on stage
693
00:27:26,978 --> 00:27:28,813
the audience went
absolutely ape shit.
694
00:27:28,847 --> 00:27:30,281
Gil Moore:
They were just out
of their chairs
695
00:27:30,315 --> 00:27:31,783
and standing up
the whole time.
696
00:27:31,816 --> 00:27:33,952
Mike and Rik and I kind of
looked at each other like,
697
00:27:33,985 --> 00:27:35,186
this is really happening!
698
00:27:35,220 --> 00:27:36,521
Mike Levine:
So the confidence level,
699
00:27:36,554 --> 00:27:38,323
the meter went, errp,
700
00:27:38,356 --> 00:27:40,358
you know, just like
deep in the red.
701
00:27:41,226 --> 00:27:42,527
Rik Emmett:
How do they know
these songs?
702
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,162
You know, the album
hasn't been out that long.
703
00:27:44,195 --> 00:27:47,832
Well, they must be
getting so much rotation,
704
00:27:47,866 --> 00:27:49,701
so much airplay exposure,
705
00:27:49,734 --> 00:27:50,835
that they know
these songs.
706
00:27:50,869 --> 00:27:51,870
(hard rock music)
707
00:27:51,903 --> 00:27:55,840
♪ What's another day
of rock and roll ♪
708
00:27:55,874 --> 00:27:57,175
Gil Moore:
Record Week,
709
00:27:57,208 --> 00:27:58,843
which was the trade
mag at the time,
710
00:27:58,877 --> 00:28:00,712
they put us on the front
cover the next week
711
00:28:00,745 --> 00:28:01,946
with a map of Texas,
712
00:28:01,980 --> 00:28:03,615
a circle around
San Antonio
713
00:28:03,648 --> 00:28:05,617
and Austin and
Corpus Christi,
714
00:28:05,650 --> 00:28:07,285
so that recognition
kind of went
715
00:28:07,318 --> 00:28:10,321
across the whole music
industry in Canada.
716
00:28:10,355 --> 00:28:11,856
It's a great moment.
717
00:28:13,358 --> 00:28:16,027
Michael Cohl:
The late seventies was
the early renaissance,
718
00:28:16,061 --> 00:28:18,163
greatest time
for rock music,
719
00:28:18,196 --> 00:28:22,000
whether it was within
Canada or internationally.
720
00:28:22,033 --> 00:28:25,170
So whenever a Canadian group
started getting a buzz,
721
00:28:25,203 --> 00:28:27,338
most of them
you went, meh,
722
00:28:27,372 --> 00:28:28,673
not very good,
not very good,
723
00:28:28,707 --> 00:28:29,674
oh, pretty good.
724
00:28:29,708 --> 00:28:31,342
And then there was
a buzz on Triumph.
725
00:28:31,376 --> 00:28:34,179
Gil Moore:
Michael Cohl now thinks
we can play Massey Hall,
726
00:28:34,212 --> 00:28:35,680
so we're going to
play a real concert
727
00:28:35,714 --> 00:28:38,016
in a real historic venue.
728
00:28:38,049 --> 00:28:39,684
This is like a dream.
729
00:28:39,718 --> 00:28:41,686
So, we put our
tickets on sale,
730
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,555
there was a really
strong response,
731
00:28:43,588 --> 00:28:45,090
sold two thirds
of the tickets.
732
00:28:45,123 --> 00:28:47,726
Twenty-four hours later
the fire marshall says,
733
00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:49,060
no Triumph,
734
00:28:49,094 --> 00:28:51,396
Massey Hall is a tinderbox
735
00:28:51,429 --> 00:28:54,232
and those lunatics are going
to burn it to the ground.
736
00:28:54,265 --> 00:28:57,102
"Triumph's smoke bombs
too hot for Massey Hall".
737
00:28:58,436 --> 00:29:00,405
"Triumph, the local
heavy rock trio,
738
00:29:00,438 --> 00:29:03,007
"was forced to cancel its
Massey Hall debut tonight
739
00:29:03,041 --> 00:29:04,843
"when the hall's management
discovered the band
740
00:29:04,876 --> 00:29:07,679
"was planning to use smoke
bombs as special effects."
741
00:29:07,712 --> 00:29:09,013
After we found out
742
00:29:09,047 --> 00:29:12,217
that they weren't going to
go along with our-our pyro,
743
00:29:12,250 --> 00:29:13,218
and let's face it,
744
00:29:13,251 --> 00:29:15,019
pyro is mandatory,
745
00:29:15,053 --> 00:29:17,055
so we went, okay,
that's a deal breaker.
746
00:29:17,088 --> 00:29:18,723
And I said,
well, of course,
747
00:29:18,757 --> 00:29:19,891
we just go to
the big venue,
748
00:29:19,924 --> 00:29:21,893
that's all, we're just
too big for Massey Hall.
749
00:29:21,926 --> 00:29:23,428
So we call CPI,
750
00:29:23,461 --> 00:29:24,729
get Michael Cohl
on the phone.
751
00:29:24,763 --> 00:29:26,030
(phone rings)
752
00:29:26,064 --> 00:29:27,398
Gil Moore:
And we said we want to
play Maple Leaf Gardens.
753
00:29:27,432 --> 00:29:29,234
And he went,
"You out of your mind?
754
00:29:29,267 --> 00:29:30,602
"You haven't even
played Massey Hall yet,
755
00:29:30,635 --> 00:29:32,403
"you can't possibly play
Maple Leaf Gardens,
756
00:29:32,437 --> 00:29:33,905
"we'd lose a
zillion dollars."
757
00:29:33,938 --> 00:29:35,240
Most of the time
you would play
758
00:29:35,273 --> 00:29:37,075
two Massey Hall shows,
759
00:29:37,108 --> 00:29:39,410
that'd be five and a half
thousand people,
760
00:29:39,444 --> 00:29:41,079
and depending on how
your record did,
761
00:29:41,112 --> 00:29:43,581
you could jump to the
Gardens and do 10,000.
762
00:29:43,615 --> 00:29:45,750
Gil Moore:
This back and forth ensued.
763
00:29:45,784 --> 00:29:46,918
We went trust us,
764
00:29:46,951 --> 00:29:48,753
the band is going to
somehow magically
765
00:29:48,787 --> 00:29:49,954
bring all these fans in,
766
00:29:49,988 --> 00:29:51,289
you got nothing
to worry about.
767
00:29:51,322 --> 00:29:53,124
Michael Cohl:
And they were very pushy.
768
00:29:53,158 --> 00:29:55,627
Now they were pushing at
a level of they were here
769
00:29:55,660 --> 00:29:57,295
but they were
really only here.
770
00:29:57,328 --> 00:29:59,964
I had more confidence
in their business sense
771
00:29:59,998 --> 00:30:02,333
and their pushiness and
their aggressiveness
772
00:30:02,367 --> 00:30:03,535
helping them get along,
773
00:30:03,568 --> 00:30:05,804
than I was about whether I
was sure about their show
774
00:30:05,837 --> 00:30:06,805
or their music.
775
00:30:06,838 --> 00:30:11,643
(hard rock music)
776
00:30:11,676 --> 00:30:13,144
Rik Emmett:
You walk out on a stage
777
00:30:13,178 --> 00:30:14,179
in Maple Leaf Gardens
Concert Bowl
778
00:30:14,212 --> 00:30:16,481
and you look out
and you're going,
779
00:30:16,514 --> 00:30:18,349
man, are we going to
be able to do this?
780
00:30:18,383 --> 00:30:20,318
I had, and this
was Gil's idea.
781
00:30:20,351 --> 00:30:22,387
I had a transformer
782
00:30:22,420 --> 00:30:29,394
inside my guitar so that I could
run like 135 feet of cable
783
00:30:29,427 --> 00:30:30,895
without losing any
guitar signal.
784
00:30:30,929 --> 00:30:34,532
(hard rock music)
(crowd cheering)
785
00:30:34,566 --> 00:30:36,534
Rik Emmett:
And so from that stage,
786
00:30:36,568 --> 00:30:38,703
we had a set of stairs
787
00:30:38,736 --> 00:30:41,206
and I went down and
out and into the crowd
788
00:30:41,239 --> 00:30:43,041
and the crowd went crazy
789
00:30:43,074 --> 00:30:44,909
and I had sort of a
bodyguard with me, you know,
790
00:30:44,943 --> 00:30:46,878
like, as I'm doing this,
you know.
791
00:30:46,911 --> 00:30:48,746
So when I came back to
the stage after that, I went,
792
00:30:48,780 --> 00:30:51,049
we got this
one in the bag.
793
00:30:51,082 --> 00:30:58,089
(hard rock music)
794
00:30:58,122 --> 00:31:02,861
♪
795
00:31:02,894 --> 00:31:05,063
(crowd cheers)
796
00:31:05,096 --> 00:31:07,031
Riley O'Connor:
Massey Hall and
Maple Leaf Gardens
797
00:31:07,065 --> 00:31:08,700
were the milestones.
798
00:31:08,733 --> 00:31:10,034
If you can play
Maple Leaf Gardens,
799
00:31:10,068 --> 00:31:11,536
you can play anywhere,
800
00:31:11,569 --> 00:31:13,371
'cause it was
the centre of
the universe
801
00:31:13,404 --> 00:31:15,707
as far as the music
industry in Canada
was concerned.
802
00:31:15,740 --> 00:31:18,076
(crowd cheers)
803
00:31:18,109 --> 00:31:20,211
Mike Levine:
Maybe six record labels
came up to see us
804
00:31:20,245 --> 00:31:22,547
and after the show
they're all talking deal
805
00:31:22,580 --> 00:31:24,048
and how much they
loved the band
806
00:31:24,082 --> 00:31:26,384
and wah wah
wah wah wah.
807
00:31:26,417 --> 00:31:27,719
Five of them get
up in the morning
808
00:31:27,752 --> 00:31:30,121
for the-the early flight
back to New York.
809
00:31:30,154 --> 00:31:31,122
The Globe and Mail,
810
00:31:31,155 --> 00:31:33,758
which is out at five
or six in the morning,
811
00:31:33,791 --> 00:31:35,426
just slaughtered us.
812
00:31:35,460 --> 00:31:36,594
It was horrible.
813
00:31:36,628 --> 00:31:37,929
Okay, so here we are.
814
00:31:37,962 --> 00:31:38,930
Headline: "Triumph:
815
00:31:38,963 --> 00:31:40,598
"all the trimmings but...
816
00:31:40,632 --> 00:31:42,634
this does not start well.
817
00:31:42,667 --> 00:31:45,637
"This three man
Toronto based rock combo
818
00:31:45,670 --> 00:31:48,139
"has been hovering in
our peripheral vision
819
00:31:48,172 --> 00:31:50,275
"like a winged insect.
820
00:31:50,308 --> 00:31:53,778
"Let's hope one
swatting is enough".
821
00:31:53,811 --> 00:31:56,281
(laughs) My god, I
forgot how bad this was.
822
00:31:56,314 --> 00:31:58,616
So all of these guys
read the newspaper
823
00:31:58,650 --> 00:32:01,452
and took a pass
on the band.
824
00:32:01,486 --> 00:32:04,255
And Warren Schatz from
RCA Records slept in
825
00:32:04,289 --> 00:32:05,623
and he's reading
the Toronto Sun,
826
00:32:05,657 --> 00:32:08,426
which gave us a
glowing review.
827
00:32:08,459 --> 00:32:11,262
So he's thinking that he
better get on the phone
828
00:32:11,296 --> 00:32:12,263
and make a deal.
829
00:32:12,297 --> 00:32:13,932
So, he ended up
making a deal.
830
00:32:13,965 --> 00:32:17,435
Announcer:
Triumph. Triumph. Triumph.
831
00:32:17,468 --> 00:32:19,771
Experience the kind
of rock energy
832
00:32:19,804 --> 00:32:21,105
you've been waiting for.
833
00:32:21,139 --> 00:32:23,608
Rik Emmett:
We had film footage
from that concert
834
00:32:23,641 --> 00:32:25,443
and we went on
this Canadian tour
835
00:32:25,476 --> 00:32:27,779
and we cut together
a TV commercial.
836
00:32:27,812 --> 00:32:30,481
Announcer:
Their mission is to
blow up the country.
837
00:32:30,515 --> 00:32:32,984
(loud rock music)
(booming explosions)
838
00:32:33,017 --> 00:32:33,985
Announcer:
Triumph.
839
00:32:34,018 --> 00:32:35,453
Rik Emmett:
This was the masterstroke.
840
00:32:35,486 --> 00:32:38,022
Buy time during
Star Trek reruns,
841
00:32:38,056 --> 00:32:39,023
after the high school-
842
00:32:39,057 --> 00:32:40,024
That was my idea.
843
00:32:40,058 --> 00:32:41,526
That was genius.
844
00:32:41,559 --> 00:32:44,495
Announcer:
Triumph, the three-man rock
and roll machine is coming.
845
00:32:44,529 --> 00:32:45,697
(loud rock music)
846
00:32:45,730 --> 00:32:47,532
Gil Moore:
We gotta be the
first rock band
847
00:32:47,565 --> 00:32:49,500
that's got its
own TV commercial
848
00:32:49,534 --> 00:32:52,003
that sells the big
theatrical performance
849
00:32:52,036 --> 00:32:53,838
because you could see
it 'cause it was visual.
850
00:32:53,871 --> 00:32:55,840
Announcer:
Rock & Roll Machine,
851
00:32:55,873 --> 00:32:57,542
a new perspective
in power.
852
00:32:57,575 --> 00:32:58,643
(explosion booms)
853
00:32:58,676 --> 00:33:01,012
Announcer:
Available on RCA
records and tapes.
854
00:33:01,045 --> 00:33:02,280
(crowd cheers)
855
00:33:02,313 --> 00:33:04,115
(gentle music)
856
00:33:04,148 --> 00:33:07,318
Announcer:
August 26th, 1978,
857
00:33:07,352 --> 00:33:11,656
the biggest outdoor rock
concert ever held in Canada.
858
00:33:11,689 --> 00:33:12,857
Mosport Park racetrack,
859
00:33:12,890 --> 00:33:14,659
where revving engines
were replaced
860
00:33:14,692 --> 00:33:17,161
by the hard pounding
beat of rock and roll.
861
00:33:17,195 --> 00:33:18,696
This is Canada Jam!
862
00:33:18,730 --> 00:33:22,000
(loud rock music)
863
00:33:22,033 --> 00:33:23,368
John Roberts:
Everything was
coming together
864
00:33:23,401 --> 00:33:25,370
at the right time
for Triumph,
865
00:33:25,403 --> 00:33:28,673
and this was their
biggest gig to date.
866
00:33:28,706 --> 00:33:31,676
(drum beats)
867
00:33:31,709 --> 00:33:33,344
John Roberts:
Suddenly, Canadians
were saying
868
00:33:33,378 --> 00:33:35,713
this is an act that you
need to pay attention to.
869
00:33:36,748 --> 00:33:38,516
Gil Moore:
We were on a
pretty good roll
870
00:33:38,549 --> 00:33:40,018
but the whole
goal from day one
871
00:33:40,051 --> 00:33:42,053
was we're going
across the border.
872
00:33:42,086 --> 00:33:45,056
If you were going to make ,
you had to make it in Amer.
873
00:33:45,089 --> 00:33:50,228
And we just saw that as the
Goliath that you had to slay.
874
00:33:50,261 --> 00:33:52,397
(crowd cheers)
875
00:33:52,430 --> 00:33:55,566
(loud rock music)
876
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,936
Sebastian Bach:
I saw Triumph when I
was about 10 or 11,
877
00:33:59,804 --> 00:34:03,041
and here's my most
amazing memory of
that show:
878
00:34:03,074 --> 00:34:06,344
Gil Moore comes
down off the kit
879
00:34:06,377 --> 00:34:08,346
and grabs the mic
and goes, what's up,
880
00:34:08,379 --> 00:34:10,181
we're gonna rock this
fuckin' place down!
881
00:34:10,214 --> 00:34:13,217
I go, the drummer
is the frontman!
882
00:34:13,251 --> 00:34:14,685
Down in the
United States,
883
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,387
if anybody says to me,
884
00:34:16,421 --> 00:34:18,723
what do they call
you up in Canada?
885
00:34:18,756 --> 00:34:20,558
What name do
they lay on you,
886
00:34:20,591 --> 00:34:21,559
what's your ID,
887
00:34:21,592 --> 00:34:23,394
what do you sign
on your moniker,
888
00:34:23,428 --> 00:34:24,729
I tell 'em,
889
00:34:24,762 --> 00:34:26,431
(screaming)
everywhere we play,
890
00:34:26,464 --> 00:34:28,399
it's one name,
891
00:34:28,433 --> 00:34:31,903
'cause I know that
you people gave us,
892
00:34:31,936 --> 00:34:34,238
the rock and roll machine!
893
00:34:34,272 --> 00:34:38,076
(crowd cheers)
894
00:34:38,109 --> 00:34:40,244
("Rock & Roll Machine"
by Triumph)
895
00:34:40,278 --> 00:34:42,447
♪ Ooh baby,
you're crazy
896
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,083
♪ If you try to
steal the show
897
00:34:45,116 --> 00:34:47,118
♪ Get set,
get ready
898
00:34:47,151 --> 00:34:48,753
♪ Time to watch
the Rocket go! ♪
899
00:34:48,786 --> 00:34:50,621
Sebastian Bach:
I wanted to be that.
900
00:34:50,655 --> 00:34:53,124
Triumph really
created a rock star.
901
00:34:53,157 --> 00:34:54,125
("Rock & Roll Machine
continues)
902
00:34:54,158 --> 00:34:55,126
♪ A fireball steamer,
903
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:56,294
♪ heavy metal screamer
904
00:34:56,327 --> 00:34:58,129
♪ Playin' licks
hotter than hell ♪
905
00:34:58,162 --> 00:35:00,298
(screaming)
906
00:35:00,331 --> 00:35:01,666
Rik Emmett:
In order to communicate
907
00:35:01,699 --> 00:35:03,568
to the people at the
back of the building,
908
00:35:03,601 --> 00:35:05,236
you have to kind of
be larger than life,
909
00:35:05,269 --> 00:35:08,072
you have to become a
cartoon kind of character
910
00:35:08,106 --> 00:35:11,109
and there was a lot more of
that going on inside the b.
911
00:35:11,142 --> 00:35:13,111
Like Levine's hair was
starting to get down to here
912
00:35:13,144 --> 00:35:15,913
and he was moving around like
the lion in the Wizard of Oz,
913
00:35:15,947 --> 00:35:18,583
you know, making
faces at the crowd.
914
00:35:18,616 --> 00:35:20,918
Everybody was starting
to understand
915
00:35:20,952 --> 00:35:22,753
the energy of
how this worked.
916
00:35:22,787 --> 00:35:24,155
You know, we
belonged to them,
917
00:35:24,188 --> 00:35:25,456
they belonged to us
918
00:35:25,490 --> 00:35:27,959
'cause we belonged
to this song.
919
00:35:27,992 --> 00:35:30,461
And if all three
things are...
920
00:35:30,495 --> 00:35:32,463
you've got a cyclone
going on here, you know.
921
00:35:32,497 --> 00:35:40,471
(rock guitar riff)
(crowd cheers)
922
00:35:40,505 --> 00:35:42,473
♪ Rock and Roll Machine
923
00:35:42,507 --> 00:35:44,976
♪ Faster than
you ever seen
924
00:35:45,009 --> 00:35:47,145
♪ Rock and Roll Machine
925
00:35:47,178 --> 00:35:49,647
♪ Everybody's eyes's
just lookin' at you
926
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,016
♪ Yeah, ooh, ahh, ahh!
927
00:35:52,049 --> 00:35:56,687
(drum roll)
928
00:35:56,721 --> 00:35:57,855
Fuck!
929
00:35:57,889 --> 00:36:04,862
("Rock & Roll Machine"
continues)
930
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,134
Rosie Levine:
Oh my Gothe spandex.
931
00:36:10,168 --> 00:36:11,202
Jeannette Emmett:
That was the
white spandex.
932
00:36:11,235 --> 00:36:12,303
Sunny Moore:
Oh yeah, yeah,
I like that one.
933
00:36:12,336 --> 00:36:14,172
I've got a copy of
that one downstairs.
934
00:36:14,205 --> 00:36:15,973
That is quite a spandex.
935
00:36:16,007 --> 00:36:18,309
Jeannette Emmett:
Yeah. Ooh,
isn't he cute?
936
00:36:18,342 --> 00:36:20,311
He is, he is.
937
00:36:20,344 --> 00:36:21,312
Kind of fond of this.
938
00:36:21,345 --> 00:36:22,847
Sunny Moore:
The world tour.
939
00:36:23,181 --> 00:36:24,849
Those I found in
a tin box at his
mother's house.
940
00:36:24,882 --> 00:36:27,818
Jeannette Emmett:
Oh, that's cool,
all the ticket stubs.
941
00:36:27,852 --> 00:36:29,687
Rosie Levine:
I think the fans are going
to be really surprised.
942
00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:31,522
I think for some
of these fans,tt:
943
00:36:31,556 --> 00:36:33,691
it's going to just
blow their minds,
944
00:36:33,724 --> 00:36:35,393
especially
because they are
going to play
945
00:36:35,426 --> 00:36:37,528
a couple of songs,
which nobody knows about.
946
00:36:37,562 --> 00:36:40,031
So I think that
will just be,
947
00:36:40,064 --> 00:36:41,532
that will be really,
really cool.
948
00:36:41,566 --> 00:36:42,700
Sunny Moore:
They rehearsed
the other day.
949
00:36:42,733 --> 00:36:45,536
Gil played drums for
three hours straight.
950
00:36:45,570 --> 00:36:46,871
Rosie Levine:
Well, I saw him
playing the bass,
951
00:36:46,904 --> 00:36:50,041
I was like, wow,
this is serious.
952
00:36:50,074 --> 00:36:52,043
Oh, look,
this is awesome.
953
00:36:52,076 --> 00:36:53,544
Jeannette Emmett:
You can see the
evolution, right?
954
00:36:53,578 --> 00:36:54,545
Yeah.
955
00:36:54,579 --> 00:36:55,546
And you go, okay,
956
00:36:55,646 --> 00:36:59,717
we're-we're starting to
become this mega thing.
957
00:36:59,750 --> 00:37:02,086
The hair, it's all
about the hair.
958
00:37:02,119 --> 00:37:03,154
Well, no-
959
00:37:03,187 --> 00:37:05,056
(in unison) That's
all about the hair.
960
00:37:05,089 --> 00:37:07,058
(laughing)
961
00:37:07,091 --> 00:37:09,727
Oh yeah,
hello honey, hello.
962
00:37:11,229 --> 00:37:15,733
Gil Moore:
So, this is gen two
963
00:37:15,766 --> 00:37:18,569
of the Triumph sign,
which we lost gen one,
964
00:37:18,603 --> 00:37:21,706
it ended up in a warehouse
in London, England
965
00:37:21,739 --> 00:37:24,375
with one of
Blue Oyster Cult's Godzillas,
966
00:37:24,408 --> 00:37:27,411
probably there's an
Iron Maiden Eddie there as well.
967
00:37:28,746 --> 00:37:30,548
Yeah, we'll haul her out,
dust her off,
968
00:37:30,581 --> 00:37:32,583
fire it up and enjoy.
969
00:37:34,118 --> 00:37:37,421
(soft upbeat music)
970
00:37:37,455 --> 00:37:38,623
Man:
You ready?
971
00:37:38,823 --> 00:37:40,091
Mike Primeau:
When this
thing turned on,
972
00:37:40,124 --> 00:37:41,626
it would bake you.
973
00:37:42,460 --> 00:37:46,264
You know, 81
aircraft landing
lights hitting ya.
974
00:37:46,297 --> 00:37:47,632
Brutal and bright.
975
00:37:48,332 --> 00:37:49,767
I had forty-one
here already
976
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,270
and it looks like we got
another eight or nine.
977
00:37:52,303 --> 00:37:54,272
There's the T,
there's your R,
978
00:37:54,305 --> 00:37:55,606
there's your M.
979
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,441
Hopefully it works
980
00:37:57,475 --> 00:37:59,477
and we don't find any
issues like this.
981
00:38:00,478 --> 00:38:02,213
We've got to find out
where this came from.
982
00:38:02,246 --> 00:38:04,715
We'll just have
to chase it down.
983
00:38:04,749 --> 00:38:05,883
But we should be
able to get it going,
984
00:38:05,916 --> 00:38:07,418
we got a couple
months, right?
985
00:38:14,292 --> 00:38:15,793
(cowbell clanging)
986
00:38:15,826 --> 00:38:17,928
Announcer:
Now "Just a Game",
987
00:38:17,962 --> 00:38:20,131
the new
Triumph album.
988
00:38:20,164 --> 00:38:21,265
Rik Emmett,
989
00:38:21,299 --> 00:38:22,633
Mike Levine,
990
00:38:22,667 --> 00:38:24,935
Gil Moore.
991
00:38:24,969 --> 00:38:26,437
Triumph's "Just a Game",
992
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:29,140
on RCA records
and tapes now.
993
00:38:29,173 --> 00:38:30,608
(rock music)
994
00:38:30,641 --> 00:38:32,109
Gil Moore:
Everything was
going north.
995
00:38:32,143 --> 00:38:33,611
Our phone lines
were burning up
996
00:38:33,644 --> 00:38:35,279
with this offer
and that offer,
997
00:38:35,313 --> 00:38:36,614
and can you do this
and go on this show
998
00:38:36,647 --> 00:38:37,815
and go on that show,
999
00:38:37,848 --> 00:38:38,983
and these guys want
to talk to you.
1000
00:38:39,016 --> 00:38:41,152
So Mike and I were
fending off the wolves
1001
00:38:41,185 --> 00:38:43,287
and the industry was
kind of pounding on us
1002
00:38:43,321 --> 00:38:44,488
because we didn't
have managers.
1003
00:38:44,522 --> 00:38:48,192
(loud rock music)
1004
00:38:48,225 --> 00:38:50,027
Rik Emmett:
Gil is spending more and
more time in the office
1005
00:38:50,061 --> 00:38:52,330
doing managerical stuff.
1006
00:38:52,363 --> 00:38:54,498
And Mike knew how he
was going to be able to
1007
00:38:54,532 --> 00:38:57,335
leverage the record company
to spend more money
1008
00:38:57,368 --> 00:38:59,704
on us than they were
spending on other bands.
1009
00:38:59,737 --> 00:39:00,838
Mike Levine:
And we had a motto,
1010
00:39:00,871 --> 00:39:02,039
if the door's
open a little bit,
1011
00:39:02,073 --> 00:39:03,941
a little crack in the door,
you drive a semi through it.
1012
00:39:03,974 --> 00:39:07,945
♪ No I'm talking
about American girls
1013
00:39:07,978 --> 00:39:11,282
♪ They got what I need,
American girls ♪
1014
00:39:11,315 --> 00:39:12,583
Rik Emmett:
We make a record deal
1015
00:39:12,616 --> 00:39:14,618
and then the first thing Mike
and Gil are figuring out is,
1016
00:39:14,652 --> 00:39:16,987
how do we get more
money out of the label?
1017
00:39:17,021 --> 00:39:19,857
Gil Moore:
We had this crazy idea
that we would film videos,
1018
00:39:19,890 --> 00:39:22,660
you know, and this was
before there was MTV.
1019
00:39:22,693 --> 00:39:24,028
Mike Levine:
But I convinced RCA
1020
00:39:24,061 --> 00:39:25,830
to give us a couple of
hundred thousand dollars
1021
00:39:25,863 --> 00:39:27,198
so we could go
to a soundstage
1022
00:39:27,231 --> 00:39:30,668
and film the band live
and make four videos.
1023
00:39:30,701 --> 00:39:32,370
Gil Moore:
And they really
kind of lit a fire
1024
00:39:32,403 --> 00:39:33,871
everywhere we
went in America.
1025
00:39:33,904 --> 00:39:35,005
And I would go,
1026
00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:36,841
these guys are
fucking geniuses.
1027
00:39:36,874 --> 00:39:43,848
("American Girls"
by Triumph)
1028
00:39:43,881 --> 00:39:47,351
♪
1029
00:39:47,385 --> 00:39:50,388
Gil Moore:
We all kind of had
a role to play.
1030
00:39:50,421 --> 00:39:51,522
So I think Rik saw
1031
00:39:51,555 --> 00:39:54,058
somebody's got to really
concentrate on music here,
1032
00:39:54,091 --> 00:39:56,227
so he shouldered
that responsibility.
1033
00:39:56,260 --> 00:40:03,234
(soft rock music)
1034
00:40:03,267 --> 00:40:04,668
♪
1035
00:40:04,702 --> 00:40:06,604
Rik Emmett:
I grew up listening to
everything from Deep Purple
1036
00:40:06,637 --> 00:40:08,773
to Crosby, Stills and Nash,
1037
00:40:08,806 --> 00:40:10,741
and I'd written
pop songs for Triumph
1038
00:40:10,775 --> 00:40:13,911
and Gil and Mike would
both go no, no, too wimpy.
1039
00:40:13,944 --> 00:40:15,913
But when I presented
"Lay It On The Line",
1040
00:40:15,946 --> 00:40:17,248
they both went,
yeah, yeah,
1041
00:40:17,281 --> 00:40:19,083
no, this is,
this is good.
1042
00:40:19,116 --> 00:40:23,254
(soft guitar music)
1043
00:40:23,287 --> 00:40:24,955
Mike Levine:
Rik became better
as a writer
1044
00:40:24,989 --> 00:40:26,290
and proof was
in the pudding
1045
00:40:26,323 --> 00:40:29,126
because he wrote one of the
"evergreen" Triumph songs:
1046
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,161
"Lay it on the Line".
1047
00:40:30,995 --> 00:40:34,465
(soft guitar music)
1048
00:40:34,498 --> 00:40:35,666
Oh.
1049
00:40:37,001 --> 00:40:38,803
Wow, where did you dig this?
1050
00:40:38,836 --> 00:40:40,304
Where did I put my glasses?
1051
00:40:40,337 --> 00:40:42,306
(laughing)
1052
00:40:42,339 --> 00:40:43,841
Kids, he's got
to put on his,
1053
00:40:43,874 --> 00:40:45,509
they're progressive lenses.
1054
00:40:46,177 --> 00:40:49,313
♪ It's the same old
story all over again ♪
1055
00:40:49,346 --> 00:40:50,815
It's the same old
story all over again.
1056
00:40:50,848 --> 00:40:52,483
You turn a lover into
just another friend.
1057
00:40:52,516 --> 00:40:54,151
I want to love you.
I want to make you mine.
1058
00:40:54,185 --> 00:40:56,020
Won't you lay
it on the line?
1059
00:40:56,687 --> 00:40:59,523
♪ I want to love you.
1060
00:40:59,557 --> 00:41:02,359
♪ I want to
make you mine ♪
1061
00:41:02,393 --> 00:41:04,462
Rik Emmett:
I've written
two drum holds.
1062
00:41:04,495 --> 00:41:05,463
So those are those
1063
00:41:05,496 --> 00:41:08,632
(imitates drum)
1064
00:41:08,666 --> 00:41:13,671
♪ I'm tired of
playing foolish games
1065
00:41:13,704 --> 00:41:19,543
♪ I'm tired of all your
lies makin' me insane
1066
00:41:20,010 --> 00:41:23,981
♪ I don't ask for much,
truth will do just fine
1067
00:41:24,014 --> 00:41:29,854
♪ Won't you lay
it on the line ♪
1068
00:41:29,887 --> 00:41:33,357
♪ Lay it on the line
1069
00:41:33,891 --> 00:41:35,059
Rik Emmett:
As a songwriter,
1070
00:41:35,092 --> 00:41:36,193
I was starting to realize
1071
00:41:36,227 --> 00:41:38,529
it's not just a question
of the earworm,
1072
00:41:38,562 --> 00:41:41,699
it's a question of where
the earworm gets placed,
1073
00:41:41,732 --> 00:41:44,535
so I was now figuring
this stuff out.
1074
00:41:44,568 --> 00:41:46,704
Okay, we're going to
make these choruses come
1075
00:41:46,737 --> 00:41:47,872
and I would be
saying, okay,
1076
00:41:47,905 --> 00:41:49,573
we're going to
have a triad
1077
00:41:49,607 --> 00:41:51,208
and then we're going
to double the triad.
1078
00:41:51,242 --> 00:41:52,743
And then we're going
to go to another triad
1079
00:41:52,776 --> 00:41:54,044
and it's going to
be already doubled.
1080
00:41:54,078 --> 00:41:55,379
So, those choruses
1081
00:41:55,412 --> 00:41:58,883
♪ lay it on the line
1082
00:41:58,916 --> 00:42:00,050
♪ don't waste my time
1083
00:42:00,084 --> 00:42:02,987
Like radio is going
to go for that.
1084
00:42:03,020 --> 00:42:10,027
♪ Lay it on the line
1085
00:42:10,060 --> 00:42:11,896
♪ Don't waste my time
1086
00:42:11,929 --> 00:42:14,765
That's when album radio
really embraced Triumph.
1087
00:42:16,567 --> 00:42:18,903
Announcer:
Over a year
in the making,
1088
00:42:18,936 --> 00:42:20,704
eight new songs,
1089
00:42:20,738 --> 00:42:22,206
one great group:
1090
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,207
Triumph.
1091
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:25,209
♪ Hold on
1092
00:42:25,242 --> 00:42:28,078
Gil Moore:
"Just a Game" went gold
in the US in 1979
1093
00:42:28,112 --> 00:42:30,581
and that was a big
deal back then.
1094
00:42:30,614 --> 00:42:33,050
It meant bigger venues,
more ticket sales,
1095
00:42:33,083 --> 00:42:35,052
and a lot more fans.
1096
00:42:35,085 --> 00:42:37,054
♪ Listen to your heart
1097
00:42:37,087 --> 00:42:40,624
♪ Hold on
1098
00:42:40,658 --> 00:42:43,661
♪ To your dreams
1099
00:42:46,297 --> 00:42:48,299
Matt Hoffman:
All right, I'm going to
take you down to the, uh,
1100
00:42:48,332 --> 00:42:50,935
the walls of Triumph.
1101
00:42:50,968 --> 00:42:53,804
A lot of rearranging,
a lot of nails.
1102
00:42:54,171 --> 00:42:55,773
This is the only room
in the whole house
1103
00:42:55,806 --> 00:42:56,941
where there's no
children's toys.
1104
00:42:56,974 --> 00:42:58,142
This is my
sanctuary
1105
00:42:58,175 --> 00:43:01,478
and this is my collection
of Triumph stuff.
1106
00:43:01,512 --> 00:43:03,747
It spans the whole
career of Triumph
1107
00:43:03,781 --> 00:43:06,550
and these walls here have t
over 200 photos in them,
1108
00:43:06,584 --> 00:43:08,085
if you can believe that,
1109
00:43:08,118 --> 00:43:11,255
but I figured this was my little
way of paying homage to them.
1110
00:43:11,288 --> 00:43:13,924
(loud rock music)
1111
00:43:13,958 --> 00:43:15,092
Matt Hoffman:
Back in the eighties,
1112
00:43:15,125 --> 00:43:16,427
every time you
turned on MTV,
1113
00:43:16,460 --> 00:43:17,461
it was Triumph,
1114
00:43:17,494 --> 00:43:20,598
and seeing those explosions,
those lights,
1115
00:43:20,631 --> 00:43:22,433
the double-neck guitar,
grabbed me
1116
00:43:22,466 --> 00:43:24,635
and that's how I really
discovered Triumph.
1117
00:43:25,970 --> 00:43:28,472
Yesterday, I got onto the
computer to check my emails
1118
00:43:28,505 --> 00:43:31,775
and I actually had an
email from Triumph.
1119
00:43:31,809 --> 00:43:33,611
Now I'm like, but I
had to double-check.
1120
00:43:33,644 --> 00:43:35,112
I'm like this can't
be happening.
1121
00:43:35,145 --> 00:43:38,816
So I'm actually invited to go
to Metalworks for a fanfest.
1122
00:43:38,849 --> 00:43:40,618
Maybe there's a chance
they'll play a song or two,
1123
00:43:40,651 --> 00:43:43,454
I don't know, that's a fingers
crossed wishful thinking
1124
00:43:43,487 --> 00:43:44,521
but heck,
I can't wait.
1125
00:43:44,555 --> 00:43:46,991
This-this day can't
happen soon enough.
1126
00:43:47,024 --> 00:43:48,392
Best email I ever got.
1127
00:43:49,526 --> 00:43:51,662
(birds squawk)
1128
00:43:51,695 --> 00:43:53,163
Paulette Borkowski:
I'm just waiting for
them to announce the dates
1129
00:43:53,197 --> 00:43:54,999
'cause I already have
the hotel chosen,
1130
00:43:55,032 --> 00:43:56,333
close to Metalworks,
1131
00:43:56,367 --> 00:43:57,835
so that I can book the
hotel that we need
1132
00:43:57,868 --> 00:43:59,703
and then book
our flights, yeah.
1133
00:44:01,071 --> 00:44:02,506
I'm Paulette Borkowski
1134
00:44:02,539 --> 00:44:05,309
and my number one job is
to be a super Triumph fan.
1135
00:44:06,810 --> 00:44:10,280
I fell in love with Triumph
when I was 15 years old
1136
00:44:10,314 --> 00:44:11,982
and it's 35 years later
1137
00:44:12,016 --> 00:44:15,119
and I'm still in
love with Triumph.
1138
00:44:15,152 --> 00:44:17,821
When I got my driver's
licence on my 16th birthday
1139
00:44:17,855 --> 00:44:19,490
I knew that there was
only one thing I'd want
1140
00:44:19,523 --> 00:44:20,658
on my car for my
licence plate
1141
00:44:20,691 --> 00:44:22,159
and that was going
to be "Triumph".
1142
00:44:22,192 --> 00:44:23,827
When I applied for
the licence plate,
1143
00:44:23,861 --> 00:44:25,496
it was taken
1144
00:44:25,529 --> 00:44:30,501
and T-R-Y-U-M-P-H
was not taken.
1145
00:44:30,534 --> 00:44:33,671
So the next opportunity
to go backstage
1146
00:44:33,704 --> 00:44:35,839
I had all three members
autograph them.
1147
00:44:35,873 --> 00:44:38,375
Triumph kicks ass!
1148
00:44:39,376 --> 00:44:40,511
There's times
when I thought,
1149
00:44:40,544 --> 00:44:41,845
is this overboard?
1150
00:44:41,879 --> 00:44:43,681
You know, some people like to
go out to dinner every night
1151
00:44:43,714 --> 00:44:44,715
or every other night,
1152
00:44:44,748 --> 00:44:46,717
some people like
to buy a new car
1153
00:44:46,750 --> 00:44:48,018
every two or three years,
1154
00:44:48,052 --> 00:44:50,054
I drive a 12-year-old car but
I have a Triumph addiction,
1155
00:44:50,087 --> 00:44:52,923
so it's kind of
what I do, yeah.
1156
00:44:53,424 --> 00:44:59,096
(soft dreamy music)
1157
00:44:59,129 --> 00:45:03,000
Rik Emmett:
1981 is when everything
was really solid
1158
00:45:03,033 --> 00:45:06,170
and the success of
"Just a Game" taught me
1159
00:45:06,203 --> 00:45:08,539
time is an important thing,
1160
00:45:08,572 --> 00:45:12,009
you can't be worried
about the clock.
1161
00:45:12,042 --> 00:45:13,544
Gil Moore:
If we had our
own place
1162
00:45:13,577 --> 00:45:15,045
that was beyond
a rehearsal hall,
1163
00:45:15,079 --> 00:45:17,047
where it
encompassed recording,
1164
00:45:17,081 --> 00:45:18,182
we could, you know,
1165
00:45:18,215 --> 00:45:20,384
really work harder
on the songs.
1166
00:45:20,417 --> 00:45:21,852
Mike Levine:
Sometimes Gil's the guy,
you know,
1167
00:45:21,885 --> 00:45:23,020
you ask him what
time it is,
1168
00:45:23,053 --> 00:45:25,255
he tells you how
to build a watch.
1169
00:45:25,289 --> 00:45:27,725
And so Gil asked himself
what time it was
1170
00:45:27,758 --> 00:45:30,594
and then decided to
build a recording studio.
1171
00:45:30,627 --> 00:45:32,062
We decided to build
a control room,
1172
00:45:32,096 --> 00:45:33,297
that was the first thing.
1173
00:45:33,330 --> 00:45:34,732
You know, then one thing led
to another and we're like,
1174
00:45:34,765 --> 00:45:35,933
well now we've
taken it this far,
1175
00:45:35,966 --> 00:45:37,735
maybe we should
just build a studio
1176
00:45:37,768 --> 00:45:38,902
to go with the
control room,
1177
00:45:38,936 --> 00:45:41,438
and it just gave us
the ability to record,
1178
00:45:41,472 --> 00:45:42,906
you know, on a whim.
1179
00:45:42,940 --> 00:45:44,775
Mike Levine:
Okay, we're ready
to roll...
1180
00:45:45,609 --> 00:45:46,910
Rik Emmett:
On "Allied Forces",
1181
00:45:46,944 --> 00:45:49,113
I'm feeling my
oats as a writer
1182
00:45:49,146 --> 00:45:52,449
and I'm thinking I can
write almost anything.
1183
00:45:53,817 --> 00:45:56,286
I want to take the
"Just a Game" album
1184
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,790
and bring it into,
you know, 1981
1185
00:45:59,823 --> 00:46:01,792
and what radio's doing
1186
00:46:01,825 --> 00:46:06,230
and our post-Zep
kinds of influences.
1187
00:46:06,263 --> 00:46:13,237
("Fight The Good Fight"
by Triumph)
1188
00:46:13,270 --> 00:46:17,908
♪
1189
00:46:17,941 --> 00:46:20,077
Rik Emmett:
"Fight the Good Fight"
grew out of the band,
1190
00:46:20,110 --> 00:46:21,578
pre-production,
in the studio together,
1191
00:46:21,612 --> 00:46:22,579
writing together,
1192
00:46:22,613 --> 00:46:24,081
coming up with
parts together,
1193
00:46:24,114 --> 00:46:25,082
taking our time,
1194
00:46:25,115 --> 00:46:26,750
we were in our
own studio.
1195
00:46:26,784 --> 00:46:27,851
(rhythmic rock music)
1196
00:46:27,918 --> 00:46:33,123
♪ Days grow shorter and
the nights are getting long
1197
00:46:33,157 --> 00:46:37,294
♪ Feels like we're
running out of time ♪
1198
00:46:37,327 --> 00:46:40,798
Rik Emmett:
I just felt like I had found
my home away from home
1199
00:46:40,831 --> 00:46:44,001
and I would sit there and e
the hockey game on the TV
1200
00:46:44,034 --> 00:46:46,470
and I would just be doing
overdubs all night long,
1201
00:46:46,503 --> 00:46:47,871
and I loved it.
1202
00:46:48,672 --> 00:46:51,308
♪ Don't get discouraged
1203
00:46:51,341 --> 00:46:53,310
♪ Don't be afraid
1204
00:46:53,343 --> 00:46:56,980
♪ We can make it
through another day ♪
1205
00:46:57,014 --> 00:47:00,651
Gil Moore:
I do remember Rik spending
an inordinate amount of time
1206
00:47:00,684 --> 00:47:02,319
in the studio
and-and Mike too.
1207
00:47:02,352 --> 00:47:04,087
I mean, Mike spent a
bajillion hours in there
1208
00:47:04,121 --> 00:47:07,825
mixing and refining stuff
and that sort of thing.
1209
00:47:07,858 --> 00:47:09,293
Mike Levine:
We've always produced
our own records
1210
00:47:09,326 --> 00:47:12,162
and some of my background comes
out of record production,
1211
00:47:12,196 --> 00:47:14,498
so that becomes my
responsibility within the group
1212
00:47:14,531 --> 00:47:15,632
when we're making a record.
1213
00:47:15,666 --> 00:47:18,302
We worked well
creatively together
1214
00:47:18,335 --> 00:47:19,970
and those two guys
listened to me
1215
00:47:20,003 --> 00:47:21,805
when they were singing
and doing overdubs.
1216
00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:22,806
As a producer,
1217
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,508
when I had my
producer's hat on,
1218
00:47:24,541 --> 00:47:27,811
they-they performed
very, very well for me.
1219
00:47:27,845 --> 00:47:28,812
Okay, are you ready, sir?
1220
00:47:28,846 --> 00:47:29,880
Rik Emmett:
Okay!
1221
00:47:29,913 --> 00:47:31,014
Mike Levine:
Okay, one time
from the top.
1222
00:47:31,048 --> 00:47:32,850
Let's do this in
one take, okay?
1223
00:47:32,883 --> 00:47:34,885
Rik Emmett:
Okay. If I've got it in me,
I'll get it out of me.
1224
00:47:35,686 --> 00:47:38,689
The band found
its true heart,
1225
00:47:38,722 --> 00:47:42,526
as a musical
entity in that studio.
1226
00:47:42,559 --> 00:47:44,695
("Fight the Good Fight"
by Triumph)
1227
00:47:44,728 --> 00:47:48,565
♪ Fight the good
fight every moment ♪
1228
00:47:48,599 --> 00:47:50,534
Eddie Trunk:
I remember the impact
hearing Allied Forces
1229
00:47:50,567 --> 00:47:51,835
on the radio.
1230
00:47:51,869 --> 00:47:54,872
It was a very
stark contrast
to what was
1231
00:47:54,905 --> 00:47:58,909
part of, um, a lot of rock
and metal at that time.
1232
00:47:58,942 --> 00:48:02,079
♪ Show the way
1233
00:48:02,112 --> 00:48:04,147
Eddie Trunk:
There was a very
uplifting message,
1234
00:48:04,181 --> 00:48:06,984
a very unifying message,
which is important to fans,
1235
00:48:07,017 --> 00:48:09,853
especially when you're
discovering music.
1236
00:48:12,389 --> 00:48:15,192
Brian Posehn:
This was the one that I
just remember playing over
1237
00:48:15,225 --> 00:48:16,360
and over and over.
1238
00:48:16,393 --> 00:48:18,729
To me, this is the-the
quintessential record.
1239
00:48:19,396 --> 00:48:21,198
They wrote a couple
of big anthems
1240
00:48:21,231 --> 00:48:23,533
and those were the
songs that really
appealed to me,
1241
00:48:23,567 --> 00:48:24,902
You know, "Fight
the Good Fight",
1242
00:48:24,935 --> 00:48:26,703
where you could,
you'd be alone
1243
00:48:26,737 --> 00:48:29,039
but you could picture being
in an arena full of people,
1244
00:48:29,072 --> 00:48:30,040
just, you know,
1245
00:48:30,073 --> 00:48:33,076
it had that sing-a-long
element to it
1246
00:48:33,110 --> 00:48:35,279
and a positive
message too.
1247
00:48:37,447 --> 00:48:39,883
As a teenager and
as a rock fan,
1248
00:48:39,917 --> 00:48:41,585
you have bands that
just disappoint you,
1249
00:48:41,618 --> 00:48:43,053
you know what I mean?
1250
00:48:43,086 --> 00:48:45,589
And, and Triumph
never did that.
1251
00:48:45,622 --> 00:48:50,627
♪ I can tell you
where to start
1252
00:48:50,961 --> 00:48:54,431
♪ Take a look
inside your heart ♪
1253
00:48:54,464 --> 00:48:57,267
Joey Scoleri:
Triumph connected with
one person at a time.
1254
00:48:57,301 --> 00:49:00,604
Every song that
they wrote felt
very personal.
1255
00:49:00,637 --> 00:49:02,139
And when you were
a Triumph fan
1256
00:49:02,172 --> 00:49:03,540
and you met another
Triumph fan,
1257
00:49:03,573 --> 00:49:05,742
it created this bond
1258
00:49:05,776 --> 00:49:07,377
because you heard the
song on the radio,
1259
00:49:07,411 --> 00:49:09,046
they heard the
song on the radio
1260
00:49:09,079 --> 00:49:11,281
and you both felt
the same way.
1261
00:49:14,584 --> 00:49:17,721
Rik Emmett:
The teenage high school
experience is one where
1262
00:49:17,754 --> 00:49:20,090
there's an awful lot of
people that feel lonely
1263
00:49:20,123 --> 00:49:24,594
and ostracized and feel
like they don't fit in.
1264
00:49:24,628 --> 00:49:26,263
There are an awful lot of
bands that were saying
1265
00:49:26,296 --> 00:49:28,265
let's get hammered,
let's get laid,
1266
00:49:28,298 --> 00:49:29,933
you know,
let's die young.
1267
00:49:29,967 --> 00:49:34,471
And so, we were going to
be a band that gives kids
1268
00:49:34,504 --> 00:49:38,608
a positive sense
of themselves.
1269
00:49:38,642 --> 00:49:41,111
Mike Levine:
Our lyrics were
uplifting and positive
1270
00:49:41,144 --> 00:49:43,280
and a lot of times
giving people hope
1271
00:49:43,313 --> 00:49:45,782
and changing
people's lives,
1272
00:49:45,816 --> 00:49:47,951
and that's something that,
you know,
1273
00:49:47,985 --> 00:49:49,052
I'm forever proud of.
1274
00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:52,155
Like we did get letters
about how people were gonna
1275
00:49:52,189 --> 00:49:54,491
you know, this girl was
going to commit suicide,
1276
00:49:54,524 --> 00:49:57,494
she couldn't live anymore
and then she put on "Hold On"
1277
00:49:57,527 --> 00:49:58,829
and it changed her life.
1278
00:49:58,862 --> 00:49:59,997
You know,
that kind of stuff,
1279
00:50:00,030 --> 00:50:01,865
like you can't
buy that, right?
1280
00:50:01,898 --> 00:50:04,501
There's no price you
can ever put on that
1281
00:50:04,534 --> 00:50:06,370
except feeling
really good.
1282
00:50:07,037 --> 00:50:11,541
♪ You're the master
of your own destiny
1283
00:50:11,575 --> 00:50:19,883
♪ So give and take the
best that you can ♪
1284
00:50:19,916 --> 00:50:26,223
(loud rock music)
1285
00:50:26,256 --> 00:50:28,091
Nancy Inch:
Triumph's music
has seen me
1286
00:50:28,125 --> 00:50:31,061
through some of the
highest points in my life
1287
00:50:31,094 --> 00:50:34,398
but there has been
more times than not
1288
00:50:34,431 --> 00:50:36,900
that Triumph has brought me
from a really dark place,
1289
00:50:36,933 --> 00:50:40,270
kept me from, I was in a
dark place for a long time.
1290
00:50:40,303 --> 00:50:45,108
Um, yeah, and
these guys, oof,
1291
00:50:45,142 --> 00:50:49,246
these guys, uh, gave me a
reason to keep going, you know,
1292
00:50:49,279 --> 00:50:52,115
reminding me that it's
going to be okay.
1293
00:50:53,650 --> 00:50:55,752
They mean the
world to me.
1294
00:50:55,786 --> 00:50:58,255
Matt Hoffman:
A couple years ago
I got this tattoo
1295
00:50:58,288 --> 00:50:59,456
with the motto
Fight the Good Fight,
1296
00:50:59,489 --> 00:51:01,625
which is part of the
reason I'm here right now,
1297
00:51:01,658 --> 00:51:03,560
little reminder
every single day,
1298
00:51:03,593 --> 00:51:04,895
people should always, uh,
1299
00:51:04,928 --> 00:51:07,431
when things get bad
fight the good fight.
1300
00:51:09,099 --> 00:51:13,603
I was diagnosed in 2010
with stage 3 rectal cancer
1301
00:51:13,637 --> 00:51:16,273
and every single day
that I went to the-
1302
00:51:16,306 --> 00:51:17,941
to the hospital for
my chemo treatments
1303
00:51:17,974 --> 00:51:20,577
I would have
Triumph playing.
1304
00:51:20,610 --> 00:51:23,580
"Fight the Good Fight" was
always the first song
1305
00:51:23,613 --> 00:51:24,915
going into the subway,
1306
00:51:24,948 --> 00:51:26,917
it just really,
really took on
1307
00:51:26,950 --> 00:51:28,452
a whole new
meaning for me.
1308
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:31,755
Less than a month
after I got diagnosed
1309
00:51:31,788 --> 00:51:33,957
I sent an email
to Rik Emmett.
1310
00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:35,492
"Hi Rik, hope all is well.
1311
00:51:35,525 --> 00:51:37,160
"I just wanted to
take a couple minutes
1312
00:51:37,194 --> 00:51:38,495
"to tell you some things.
1313
00:51:38,528 --> 00:51:41,965
"I have recently been diagnosed
with stage 3 cancer.
1314
00:51:41,998 --> 00:51:44,968
"I am only 42 years old
and just got married.
1315
00:51:45,001 --> 00:51:46,136
"Your music has
always been
1316
00:51:46,169 --> 00:51:48,305
"a very important
piece of my life,
1317
00:51:48,338 --> 00:51:50,807
"especially now during
this difficult time.
1318
00:51:50,841 --> 00:51:51,975
"Thanks for the inspiration.
1319
00:51:52,008 --> 00:51:53,844
"All the best,
Matt Hoffman."
1320
00:51:53,877 --> 00:51:56,813
And less than 24 hours,
I got a reply from Rik
1321
00:51:56,847 --> 00:51:58,682
and this is what
he had to say.
1322
00:51:58,715 --> 00:52:01,518
"Hi Matt, I'm very sorry to
hear of your difficulties
1323
00:52:01,551 --> 00:52:02,853
"and these challenges.
1324
00:52:02,886 --> 00:52:05,122
"My heart goes out
to you and yours.
1325
00:52:05,155 --> 00:52:08,792
"I can only offer you the same
advice I gave my own brother:
1326
00:52:08,825 --> 00:52:11,962
"Don't let the disease or even
the fight against the disease
1327
00:52:11,995 --> 00:52:15,332
"become your
defining characteristics.
1328
00:52:15,365 --> 00:52:18,301
"Stay true to the best
parts of yourself.
1329
00:52:18,335 --> 00:52:19,836
"With love, Rik."
1330
00:52:20,670 --> 00:52:23,006
(Matt sobs)
1331
00:52:23,874 --> 00:52:25,342
You guys are
making me cry.
1332
00:52:27,677 --> 00:52:28,845
That's cool.
1333
00:52:32,215 --> 00:52:35,051
This is my rock hero
writing that message to me.
1334
00:52:37,854 --> 00:52:39,689
Doesn't get
better than that.
1335
00:52:42,592 --> 00:52:45,195
(soft guitar music)
1336
00:52:45,228 --> 00:52:51,034
("Magic Power"
by Triumph)
1337
00:52:51,067 --> 00:52:53,870
Rik Emmett:
That's a pretty strong
thing that happens in music,
1338
00:52:53,904 --> 00:52:57,374
the bonding thing that occurs
between the band on stage
1339
00:52:57,407 --> 00:52:59,543
and the audience
in the seats
1340
00:52:59,576 --> 00:53:01,244
and the music
that's in the air.
1341
00:53:01,278 --> 00:53:04,648
♪ Something's in
the air tonight
1342
00:53:04,681 --> 00:53:06,816
♪ Don't know what it is
1343
00:53:06,850 --> 00:53:09,486
Rik Emmett:
You write a song and
it becomes a hit
1344
00:53:09,519 --> 00:53:11,655
and then you go and you're
playing it for an audience
1345
00:53:11,688 --> 00:53:13,690
and they start singing
it back to you,
1346
00:53:13,723 --> 00:53:16,193
is that song the same
thing that you wrote?
1347
00:53:16,226 --> 00:53:18,228
Not anymore,
it belongs to them.
1348
00:53:19,896 --> 00:53:23,366
Along comes MTV and
it's changing the nature
1349
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:24,868
of all of these things
1350
00:53:24,901 --> 00:53:28,705
and we hated that a video was
going to create a set of images
1351
00:53:28,738 --> 00:53:30,040
and people are going
to see that image
1352
00:53:30,073 --> 00:53:32,242
and they're never going
to hear that song again
1353
00:53:32,275 --> 00:53:37,214
without seeing that thing happen
at that point in that song,
1354
00:53:37,247 --> 00:53:38,882
with that imagery.
1355
00:53:38,915 --> 00:53:40,884
But we had to do it.
1356
00:53:40,917 --> 00:53:41,952
We had to make videos.
1357
00:53:41,985 --> 00:53:44,054
Interviewer:
Okay, so what we
have here Gil,
1358
00:53:44,087 --> 00:53:46,923
this is, if you press the
space bar and just...
1359
00:53:48,124 --> 00:53:49,125
Uh oh.
1360
00:53:49,159 --> 00:53:50,760
("Magic Power" plays)
1361
00:53:50,794 --> 00:53:54,097
This is the dreaded
birthday cakes in space.
1362
00:53:54,130 --> 00:53:55,098
(laughing) Oh my God!
1363
00:53:55,131 --> 00:53:57,434
♪ Something's in
the air tonight
1364
00:53:57,467 --> 00:53:59,769
♪ You don't know
what it is ♪
1365
00:53:59,803 --> 00:54:01,104
John Roberts:
MTV was brand new,
1366
00:54:01,137 --> 00:54:03,540
people weren't really sure
what to do about videos.
1367
00:54:03,573 --> 00:54:04,874
Concert videos were great
1368
00:54:04,908 --> 00:54:07,544
but then they wanted to start
doing these conceptual things
1369
00:54:07,577 --> 00:54:09,579
and in some cases
1370
00:54:09,613 --> 00:54:13,250
the concept went way so
far off into left field,
1371
00:54:13,283 --> 00:54:15,252
as you would wonder
how it ever got there.
1372
00:54:15,285 --> 00:54:19,789
♪ I'm young, I'm wild
1373
00:54:19,823 --> 00:54:21,925
I don't remember
this video, though.
1374
00:54:21,958 --> 00:54:23,927
I've never seen this!
1375
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,264
Gil Moore:
Well that was complete
unmitigated disaster.
1376
00:54:27,297 --> 00:54:30,100
(Gil laughs)
1377
00:54:30,133 --> 00:54:31,501
The director...
1378
00:54:32,335 --> 00:54:33,637
We come to the video
1379
00:54:33,670 --> 00:54:35,772
and there's this
gigantic white guitar
1380
00:54:35,805 --> 00:54:37,140
that looks like
a birthday cake.
1381
00:54:37,173 --> 00:54:38,642
So he goes, okay,
that's the stage,
1382
00:54:38,675 --> 00:54:40,110
you guys are going
to go up on there.
1383
00:54:40,143 --> 00:54:42,612
And we went, no, no,
we don't do that,
1384
00:54:42,646 --> 00:54:43,613
that's stupid looking.
1385
00:54:43,647 --> 00:54:44,614
But now you've
got this thing,
1386
00:54:44,648 --> 00:54:45,615
it exists.
1387
00:54:45,649 --> 00:54:48,285
(tape rewind effect)
1388
00:54:48,318 --> 00:54:50,620
♪ Something you will hold
1389
00:54:50,654 --> 00:54:51,988
(tape rewind effect)
1390
00:54:52,022 --> 00:54:54,190
It's built,
so we go, reluctantly,
1391
00:54:54,224 --> 00:54:55,659
kind of looking
at each other, like,
1392
00:54:55,692 --> 00:54:57,527
ah, I don't know
about this.
1393
00:54:58,862 --> 00:55:02,332
Whoa! The drums just
came out of a black hole!
1394
00:55:02,365 --> 00:55:05,101
(imitates
otherworldly effect)
1395
00:55:05,135 --> 00:55:06,770
Ricky:
Whoa, what the hell
is going on here?
1396
00:55:06,803 --> 00:55:07,771
Julian:
Now we're talking.
1397
00:55:07,804 --> 00:55:08,938
Where did she come from?
1398
00:55:08,972 --> 00:55:10,440
She's a space chick.
1399
00:55:10,473 --> 00:55:12,108
On a, what is
she sleeping on?
1400
00:55:12,142 --> 00:55:13,276
Bubbles:
Space bed?
1401
00:55:13,310 --> 00:55:14,444
Ricky:
A space floaty bed.
1402
00:55:14,477 --> 00:55:16,112
(guitar riff)
1403
00:55:16,146 --> 00:55:17,113
♪ She's young
1404
00:55:17,147 --> 00:55:19,115
Now the guitar-
Oh shit.
1405
00:55:19,149 --> 00:55:21,117
Sebastian Bach:
Now the guitar's
in her bedroom.
1406
00:55:21,151 --> 00:55:23,119
I didn't see that coming.
1407
00:55:23,153 --> 00:55:26,656
♪ Got the magic power
of the music in me ♪
1408
00:55:26,690 --> 00:55:27,824
Gil Moore:
That's logical, right?
1409
00:55:27,857 --> 00:55:29,659
If you had a spaceship,
where would you take it?
1410
00:55:29,693 --> 00:55:37,167
("Magic Power"
by Triumph)
1411
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,268
(tape rewind effect)
1412
00:55:38,301 --> 00:55:40,370
Gil Moore:
The minute it
came out we went,
1413
00:55:40,403 --> 00:55:41,371
oh no, we gotta
pull this,
1414
00:55:41,404 --> 00:55:42,539
it-it-it can't come out.
1415
00:55:42,572 --> 00:55:44,007
this is like too, this-
1416
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:45,175
wanna talk Spinal Tap,
1417
00:55:45,208 --> 00:55:46,843
this was serious
Spinal Tap,
1418
00:55:46,876 --> 00:55:48,712
that's what I'm talking
about right now.
1419
00:55:49,379 --> 00:55:53,183
John Roberts:
Concept videos really were
great fodder for MTV rotat,
1420
00:55:53,216 --> 00:55:54,851
but they're awful
in retrospect,
1421
00:55:54,884 --> 00:55:57,520
whereas what has longevity
1422
00:55:57,554 --> 00:55:58,788
and what will last
1423
00:55:58,888 --> 00:56:02,225
is this idea of just a good old
honest concert presentation.
1424
00:56:02,258 --> 00:56:05,161
(hard rock music)
1425
00:56:05,195 --> 00:56:07,497
Announcer:
Triumph. Critics call it
the best rock and roll show
1426
00:56:07,530 --> 00:56:08,865
of the year.
1427
00:56:08,898 --> 00:56:10,667
Announcer 2:
Come see Triumph's
brilliant stage production.
1428
00:56:10,700 --> 00:56:12,502
The pride of Canada,
Triumph.
1429
00:56:12,535 --> 00:56:14,337
Live in concert
tonight at 8:00 PM
1430
00:56:14,371 --> 00:56:16,005
at the
Convention Centre Arena.
1431
00:56:16,039 --> 00:56:17,374
Mike Levine:
Hi, this is Mike Levine
of Triumph
1432
00:56:17,407 --> 00:56:19,008
and we'll be playing
centre field
1433
00:56:19,042 --> 00:56:20,343
at the
World Series of Rock,
1434
00:56:20,377 --> 00:56:22,846
Milwaukee County Stadium
on May the 28th.
1435
00:56:22,879 --> 00:56:24,347
Gil Moore:
Thank you very
much, Cleveland!
1436
00:56:24,381 --> 00:56:25,682
You're hot tonight!
1437
00:56:25,715 --> 00:56:26,916
(crowd cheers)
1438
00:56:26,950 --> 00:56:28,218
Gil Moore:
Our tours back then
would be, you know,
1439
00:56:28,251 --> 00:56:31,020
close to a hundred shows,
mainly in the United States.
1440
00:56:31,054 --> 00:56:32,188
Mike Levine:
Madison, Thursday.
1441
00:56:32,222 --> 00:56:33,223
Milwaukee, Friday.
1442
00:56:33,256 --> 00:56:34,391
Chicago, Saturday.
1443
00:56:34,424 --> 00:56:36,259
In the big buildings,
in the big cities.
1444
00:56:36,292 --> 00:56:38,094
MTV VJ:
A great triumvirate, Triumph,
1445
00:56:38,128 --> 00:56:40,897
in concert Saturday night,
only here at MTV.
1446
00:56:40,930 --> 00:56:43,767
Announcer:
Triumph on RCA
records and cassette.
1447
00:56:45,935 --> 00:56:46,903
JD Roberts:
Are you all set?
1448
00:56:46,936 --> 00:56:48,238
Crew:
We're all set.
1449
00:56:48,271 --> 00:56:50,740
Okay. Anyways, you've been on
the road since, uh, January.
1450
00:56:50,774 --> 00:56:52,409
How are things
going on the tour?
1451
00:56:52,442 --> 00:56:54,911
We've gone from being
popular and happening
1452
00:56:54,944 --> 00:56:58,081
to being suddenly, you know,
larger than life.
1453
00:56:58,114 --> 00:57:00,617
And we decided
that it was time
1454
00:57:00,650 --> 00:57:02,585
to really break
the United States.
1455
00:57:02,619 --> 00:57:04,687
You know, we wanted to
end up on the US Festival.
1456
00:57:04,721 --> 00:57:07,056
(80s pop music)
1457
00:57:07,090 --> 00:57:08,725
Steve Wozniak:
For the US Festival
in 1983,
1458
00:57:08,758 --> 00:57:11,227
I wanted all people
of all music types
1459
00:57:11,261 --> 00:57:14,731
to find kind of their
days in this event.
1460
00:57:14,764 --> 00:57:16,766
And I love
good heavy
metal music.
1461
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:17,934
And I even
understand
1462
00:57:17,967 --> 00:57:19,569
how they're
somehow
relating
1463
00:57:19,602 --> 00:57:21,905
to other human beings
in playing it.
1464
00:57:21,938 --> 00:57:22,972
But I didn't realize
1465
00:57:23,006 --> 00:57:25,742
how incredible our heavy
metal day was going to be.
1466
00:57:25,775 --> 00:57:27,911
Festival Goer:
Over 300,000 people
just getting along,
1467
00:57:27,944 --> 00:57:30,413
having a good time,
no trouble.
1468
00:57:30,447 --> 00:57:31,448
It's California,
1469
00:57:31,481 --> 00:57:32,782
it's where it's at.
1470
00:57:32,882 --> 00:57:35,285
Mike Levine:
I think the event is
bigger than any one band,
1471
00:57:35,318 --> 00:57:36,786
you know,
there's so many fans,
1472
00:57:36,820 --> 00:57:38,755
there's two or 300,000
people out there.
1473
00:57:38,788 --> 00:57:39,956
Some of them are
here to see us.
1474
00:57:39,989 --> 00:57:41,458
Some of them are here
to see Van Halen,
1475
00:57:41,491 --> 00:57:43,460
but more-more than that,
they're here for the event.
1476
00:57:43,493 --> 00:57:45,462
It's a gathering
of people.
1477
00:57:45,495 --> 00:57:48,298
John Roberts:
I remember flying in
over the US Festival
1478
00:57:48,331 --> 00:57:50,467
and it was an amazing
adrenaline rush,
1479
00:57:50,500 --> 00:57:51,968
I can only imagine what it
was like for those guys,
1480
00:57:52,001 --> 00:57:54,137
it was the biggest venue
they've ever played.
1481
00:57:54,170 --> 00:57:55,805
Rik Emmett:
I'm sitting in
the helicopter
1482
00:57:55,839 --> 00:57:59,476
and we're going over these
fields of all of these peo.
1483
00:57:59,509 --> 00:58:01,511
I was going,
oh shit!
1484
00:58:02,345 --> 00:58:04,280
What the fuck have we
got ourselves into here?
1485
00:58:04,981 --> 00:58:06,416
(crowd cheers)
1486
00:58:06,449 --> 00:58:07,917
Gil Moore:
There were so
many people,
1487
00:58:07,951 --> 00:58:11,921
the security and the
throngs of press and media,
1488
00:58:11,955 --> 00:58:13,323
it was just a circus.
1489
00:58:13,690 --> 00:58:15,959
(cameras clicking)
(crowd cheering)
1490
00:58:15,992 --> 00:58:18,795
Gil Moore:
I met Steve on the
afternoon of the show
1491
00:58:18,828 --> 00:58:21,464
and we hit it
off and I said,
1492
00:58:21,498 --> 00:58:24,300
why don't you introduce
us when we go on stage?
1493
00:58:24,334 --> 00:58:25,969
Have you introduced
any bands?
1494
00:58:26,002 --> 00:58:26,970
No.
1495
00:58:27,003 --> 00:58:27,971
Would you introduce us?
1496
00:58:28,004 --> 00:58:29,339
Oh, I'd love to.
1497
00:58:29,372 --> 00:58:33,009
So, we literally walk
on stage together.
1498
00:58:34,043 --> 00:58:37,146
Steve Wozniak:
That was very rare but I
mean I was glad to do it.
1499
00:58:37,180 --> 00:58:39,349
(chuckles) I'm so glad
now that I did it!
1500
00:58:40,850 --> 00:58:42,318
Okay, there's
more to come.
1501
00:58:42,352 --> 00:58:44,487
Here's one of the groups that
really believed in this event
1502
00:58:44,521 --> 00:58:46,356
as we believe in them,
Triumph!
1503
00:58:46,389 --> 00:58:48,525
(crowd cheers)
1504
00:58:48,558 --> 00:58:51,361
I'd like to see some
hands in the air!
1505
00:58:51,394 --> 00:58:53,062
I want to see some
Allied Forces out there
1506
00:58:53,096 --> 00:58:55,031
making a little
bit of noise!
1507
00:58:55,064 --> 00:58:56,232
Rik Emmett:
For the heavy metal day,
1508
00:58:56,266 --> 00:58:59,068
it was mostly guys and
it was broiling hot,
1509
00:58:59,102 --> 00:59:00,703
so they'd all taken
their shirts off,
1510
00:59:00,737 --> 00:59:04,307
so it was just pink flesh t
went as far as you could s,
1511
00:59:04,340 --> 00:59:05,808
out and over the hills.
1512
00:59:05,842 --> 00:59:08,311
It was surreal to be
playing that gig.
1513
00:59:08,344 --> 00:59:18,655
("Allied Forces"
by Triumph)
1514
00:59:18,688 --> 00:59:21,357
♪ I've got something
on my mind
1515
00:59:21,391 --> 00:59:23,526
♪ I want you to know
1516
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,396
♪ Rock troops
are on the move
1517
00:59:26,429 --> 00:59:28,431
♪ It's startin' to show
1518
00:59:28,731 --> 00:59:30,199
Eddie Trunk:
The US Festival
in '83
1519
00:59:30,233 --> 00:59:34,871
can be looked at as one of
the defining greatest moments
1520
00:59:34,904 --> 00:59:37,073
in the history for
hard rock and metal,
1521
00:59:37,106 --> 00:59:40,410
and it was an incredibly
important stage
1522
00:59:40,443 --> 00:59:42,078
for Triumph to be on.
1523
00:59:42,111 --> 00:59:44,714
Their inclusion
sent a big message
1524
00:59:44,747 --> 00:59:46,749
about how far
they had come
1525
00:59:46,783 --> 00:59:48,718
in their career
at that point.
1526
00:59:48,751 --> 00:59:50,887
Danko Jones:
If you go down the list
of the heavy metal day,
1527
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:52,889
Van Halen, Ozzy Osbourne,
1528
00:59:52,922 --> 00:59:54,757
Judas Priest, M tley Cr e,
1529
00:59:54,791 --> 00:59:56,759
these are bands
that look dangerous
1530
00:59:56,793 --> 00:59:58,962
and then here are these
three guys from Canada
1531
00:59:58,995 --> 01:00:01,631
who are on the same stage
but they're all in white.
1532
01:00:01,664 --> 01:00:04,133
Rik Emmett sounds angelic,
even Gil,
1533
01:00:04,167 --> 01:00:07,437
and they looked like they
went to boys choir school.
1534
01:00:07,470 --> 01:00:09,939
So it situated Triumph
as the good guys
1535
01:00:09,973 --> 01:00:13,343
in an era that was
meant for the dirtbags.
1536
01:00:14,177 --> 01:00:15,278
Here's what I want to do,
1537
01:00:15,311 --> 01:00:16,613
I want to see
everybody now
1538
01:00:16,646 --> 01:00:18,481
putting your hands
together like this.
1539
01:00:18,514 --> 01:00:23,152
(loud rock music)
1540
01:00:23,186 --> 01:00:24,954
(crowd cheers)
1541
01:00:24,988 --> 01:00:26,155
Gil Moore:
Louder!
1542
01:00:26,189 --> 01:00:28,157
(crowd cheering)
(loud rock music)
1543
01:00:28,191 --> 01:00:29,492
Gil Moore:
Louder!
1544
01:00:29,525 --> 01:00:32,328
Triumph was a well-oiled
machine that day.
1545
01:00:32,362 --> 01:00:35,164
The singing,
the playing, everything.
1546
01:00:35,198 --> 01:00:37,700
And you could tell they
wanted perfection.
1547
01:00:37,734 --> 01:00:39,569
And that was rare.
1548
01:00:40,536 --> 01:00:52,682
(guitar riff)
1549
01:00:52,715 --> 01:00:57,186
John 5:
I was definitely connected
to this band because of Rik.
1550
01:00:57,220 --> 01:00:59,555
It was kind of like
if Eddie Van Halen
1551
01:00:59,589 --> 01:01:01,758
was this lead
singer too.
1552
01:01:01,791 --> 01:01:08,164
(rock guitar riff)
1553
01:01:08,197 --> 01:01:10,500
Rik Emmett:
I remember thinking I
gotta try and play this good
1554
01:01:10,533 --> 01:01:11,567
because there's all
these cameras here.
1555
01:01:11,601 --> 01:01:14,003
They had them on arms,
they had them on tracks,
1556
01:01:14,037 --> 01:01:16,506
you couldn't escape them,
they were everywhere.
1557
01:01:16,539 --> 01:01:17,840
And sometimes
I'm going to run
1558
01:01:17,874 --> 01:01:19,509
and I'll look like
a tiny little guy
1559
01:01:19,542 --> 01:01:21,878
running all the way over
in front of this giant PA
1560
01:01:21,911 --> 01:01:23,713
and it'll look
a little goofy.
1561
01:01:23,746 --> 01:01:25,848
So I thought, wow,
1562
01:01:25,882 --> 01:01:29,519
there isn't a human
within a hundred yards,
1563
01:01:29,552 --> 01:01:31,688
except the cameramen.
1564
01:01:31,721 --> 01:01:34,057
John 5:
I remember watching
this on TV
1565
01:01:34,090 --> 01:01:35,892
and I was like this
is incredible,
1566
01:01:35,925 --> 01:01:37,727
and he was running
around entertaining
1567
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,729
these couple of hundred
thousand people,
1568
01:01:39,762 --> 01:01:40,897
playing perfectly.
1569
01:01:40,930 --> 01:01:47,270
(rock guitar riff)
1570
01:01:47,303 --> 01:01:49,272
John 5:
But then he sat down
1571
01:01:49,305 --> 01:01:52,075
and entertained a
couple million people,
1572
01:01:52,108 --> 01:01:53,776
the people at home,
1573
01:01:53,810 --> 01:01:56,079
and it was genius.
1574
01:01:56,112 --> 01:02:03,086
(soft guitar strumming)
(crowd cheers)
1575
01:02:03,119 --> 01:02:27,577
♪
1576
01:02:27,610 --> 01:02:30,947
Gil Moore:
The US Festival
represented a realization
1577
01:02:30,980 --> 01:02:33,583
that we had
reached a point
1578
01:02:33,616 --> 01:02:37,920
where our fans were
unequivocal in their support.
1579
01:02:37,954 --> 01:02:40,623
(crowd cheers)
1580
01:02:42,325 --> 01:02:45,294
Steve Wozniak:
Gil Moore, Rik Emmett
and Mike Levine!
1581
01:02:45,328 --> 01:02:46,295
Triumph!
1582
01:02:46,329 --> 01:02:47,497
(crowd cheers)
1583
01:02:47,530 --> 01:02:50,366
Gil Moore:
We felt grateful
and legitimized.
1584
01:02:50,833 --> 01:02:52,668
♪ Happy birthday to you
1585
01:03:02,345 --> 01:03:05,248
♪ Happy birthday
dear Triumph
1586
01:03:05,281 --> 01:03:08,785
♪ happy birthday to you
1587
01:03:09,619 --> 01:03:13,089
("When the Lights Go Down"
by Triumph)
1588
01:03:13,122 --> 01:03:15,124
♪ When the
lights go down ♪
1589
01:03:16,826 --> 01:03:20,329
♪ When the
lights go down ♪
1590
01:03:20,530 --> 01:03:26,969
♪ We're ready to
light the fuse ♪
1591
01:03:27,003 --> 01:03:33,976
(rock music)
1592
01:03:34,010 --> 01:03:42,819
♪
1593
01:03:42,852 --> 01:03:45,988
♪ Oh when the
lights go down ♪
1594
01:03:46,022 --> 01:03:47,523
One more.
1595
01:03:47,557 --> 01:03:50,193
♪ When the lights go down
1596
01:03:50,226 --> 01:03:51,194
Now.
1597
01:03:51,227 --> 01:03:54,063
♪ It's time to
light the fuse ♪
1598
01:03:55,231 --> 01:04:00,036
(vocalization)
1599
01:04:00,069 --> 01:04:06,008
(electric guitar strums)
1600
01:04:06,042 --> 01:04:08,477
So, yeah, we're remembering it
the same way, right, yeah, yeah.
1601
01:04:08,511 --> 01:04:09,679
Okay.
1602
01:04:09,712 --> 01:04:11,347
Yeah, just don't let this
one throw you off though.
1603
01:04:11,380 --> 01:04:13,149
(electric guitar strums)
1604
01:04:13,182 --> 01:04:14,684
Don't let that
throw you off.
1605
01:04:15,551 --> 01:04:16,519
It's years of going...
1606
01:04:16,552 --> 01:04:18,654
(electric guitar strums)
1607
01:04:18,688 --> 01:04:19,889
Gil Moore:
Yes.
1608
01:04:20,056 --> 01:04:27,063
(hard rock music)
1609
01:04:27,096 --> 01:04:38,107
♪
1610
01:04:39,909 --> 01:04:41,043
Rik Emmett:
It's not supposed
to have bang bang.
1611
01:04:41,077 --> 01:04:42,445
That was two, yeah.
1612
01:04:45,581 --> 01:04:48,384
Gil Moore:
Does it seem to you
that I'm pounding the crap
1613
01:04:48,417 --> 01:04:49,385
out of the drums?
1614
01:04:49,418 --> 01:04:50,386
Playing regular, no.
That's fine.
1615
01:04:50,419 --> 01:04:51,387
Gil Moore:
I mean it's like-
1616
01:04:51,420 --> 01:04:52,889
No, it's good.
1617
01:04:52,922 --> 01:04:54,123
It sounds good.
1618
01:04:54,156 --> 01:04:55,992
It all sounds,
it's gonna be fine.
1619
01:04:58,961 --> 01:05:00,263
Reporter:
Who did you come down
to see in particular?
1620
01:05:00,296 --> 01:05:01,264
Fan:
Triumph!
1621
01:05:01,297 --> 01:05:02,265
Fan 2:
Triumph.
1622
01:05:02,298 --> 01:05:03,599
Great Canadian band.
1623
01:05:03,633 --> 01:05:06,068
We're here for
Triumph, man, Triumph.
1624
01:05:06,102 --> 01:05:08,371
(rock music)
1625
01:05:08,404 --> 01:05:10,706
Gil Moore:
In those years after
the US Festival,
1626
01:05:10,740 --> 01:05:15,378
we'd reached the stage where
we were part of this wave,
1627
01:05:15,411 --> 01:05:16,879
in the United States
particularly,
1628
01:05:16,913 --> 01:05:18,547
but it was really
kind of worldwide,
1629
01:05:18,581 --> 01:05:20,716
of hard rock
just dominating.
1630
01:05:20,750 --> 01:05:22,718
(crowd cheers)
1631
01:05:22,752 --> 01:05:24,053
Mike Levine:
We were starting
to realize
1632
01:05:24,086 --> 01:05:27,423
that we were in that lucky
1/10th of 1% of the populan
1633
01:05:27,456 --> 01:05:29,458
that gets to live
their dream.
1634
01:05:29,492 --> 01:05:35,097
(rock music)
1635
01:05:35,131 --> 01:05:36,766
John Roberts:
Triumph, in the early 80s,
1636
01:05:36,799 --> 01:05:37,967
they were as big
as Van Halen,
1637
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:39,101
they were as big
as M tley Cr e,
1638
01:05:39,135 --> 01:05:41,470
they were drawing
equal crowds to them
1639
01:05:41,504 --> 01:05:44,106
and they were really
kind of riding high.
1640
01:05:44,140 --> 01:05:46,275
And then from a
business perspective,
1641
01:05:46,309 --> 01:05:47,643
things crashed.
1642
01:05:52,181 --> 01:05:54,283
Gil Moore:
When we started
with RCA,
1643
01:05:54,317 --> 01:05:55,985
they were
very supportive
1644
01:05:56,018 --> 01:05:58,287
but we saw this shift
1645
01:05:58,321 --> 01:05:59,322
and they seemed like
they were going
1646
01:05:59,355 --> 01:06:01,824
in a different
direction musically.
1647
01:06:01,857 --> 01:06:04,260
And we really didn't
think that they believed
1648
01:06:04,293 --> 01:06:05,261
in hard rock,
1649
01:06:05,294 --> 01:06:08,264
or for that matter,
in Triumph.
1650
01:06:08,297 --> 01:06:10,433
Mike Levine:
RCA fired the president
1651
01:06:10,466 --> 01:06:13,769
and replaced him with a
guy named Jose Menendez.
1652
01:06:13,803 --> 01:06:16,939
And Jose broke the news
that he was signing Menudo
1653
01:06:16,973 --> 01:06:19,108
for tens of
millions of dollars,
1654
01:06:19,141 --> 01:06:20,443
of which a big
chunk of it
1655
01:06:20,476 --> 01:06:22,645
would have been
our marketing money.
1656
01:06:22,678 --> 01:06:26,816
So we got into a
contractual dispute.
1657
01:06:26,849 --> 01:06:29,618
Rik Emmett:
Mike and Gil decided
we're going to figure out
1658
01:06:29,652 --> 01:06:31,487
how to get
away from RCA.
1659
01:06:32,989 --> 01:06:33,990
And I was going like,
1660
01:06:34,056 --> 01:06:35,825
well you guys go to
New York and fight that
1661
01:06:35,858 --> 01:06:38,828
I'll go in the studio and see
if I can record some stuff.
1662
01:06:38,861 --> 01:06:41,163
(guitar riff)
1663
01:06:41,197 --> 01:06:44,166
Gil Moore:
We had a very, very high
profile lawyer represent us.
1664
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,002
He represented the
Rolling Stones
1665
01:06:46,035 --> 01:06:47,003
and Yoko Ono
1666
01:06:47,069 --> 01:06:50,006
and he found a deficiency
in our contract
1667
01:06:50,039 --> 01:06:51,674
but the judge just
dismissed it,
1668
01:06:51,707 --> 01:06:53,075
looked the other way.
1669
01:06:53,109 --> 01:06:56,345
Mike Levine:
At the time, RCA was still
a big name in America
1670
01:06:56,379 --> 01:06:59,181
and we're are these long-haired
musicians from Canada
1671
01:06:59,215 --> 01:07:00,850
in front of a
75-year-old judge
1672
01:07:00,883 --> 01:07:04,620
who probably owned an
RCA TV, an RCA telephone.
1673
01:07:04,653 --> 01:07:06,455
I grew up with a
RCA dishwasher,
1674
01:07:06,489 --> 01:07:08,657
an RCA this,
an RCA that.
1675
01:07:08,691 --> 01:07:10,860
Gil Moore:
You know,
Elvis is on RCA
1676
01:07:10,893 --> 01:07:13,863
and how dare these Canadians
challenge these guys,
1677
01:07:13,896 --> 01:07:16,866
that's the feeling
that we got in court.
1678
01:07:16,899 --> 01:07:18,367
We had this lawyer
1679
01:07:18,401 --> 01:07:21,003
that was full of
courtroom theatrics.
1680
01:07:21,037 --> 01:07:23,339
And at one point
he got so animated
1681
01:07:23,372 --> 01:07:25,508
that he kind of goobered
1682
01:07:25,541 --> 01:07:28,844
and then this spit goober
went right towards the judge
1683
01:07:28,878 --> 01:07:32,848
and it was disastrous because
all of a sudden our lawyer
1684
01:07:32,882 --> 01:07:34,850
is spitting on the judge.
1685
01:07:34,884 --> 01:07:37,186
(Gil laughs)
1686
01:07:37,219 --> 01:07:38,220
True.
1687
01:07:38,254 --> 01:07:42,391
(rock music)
1688
01:07:42,425 --> 01:07:44,260
Mike Levine:
Now we've lost in court.
1689
01:07:44,293 --> 01:07:46,896
We have to buy the
contract out from RCA.
1690
01:07:46,929 --> 01:07:48,264
How much does RCA want?
1691
01:07:49,098 --> 01:07:50,232
Three million.
1692
01:07:50,266 --> 01:07:51,734
Rik Emmett:
That money was
on advance,
1693
01:07:51,767 --> 01:07:53,569
we were going to
have to sell,
1694
01:07:53,602 --> 01:07:55,604
you know, 5 million,
6 million records
1695
01:07:55,638 --> 01:07:56,639
on the next record
1696
01:07:56,672 --> 01:07:58,908
in order to start getting
back to level again.
1697
01:07:58,941 --> 01:08:02,244
♪ Spellbound
(spellbound) ♪
1698
01:08:02,278 --> 01:08:06,215
♪ Dreaming of you
all of the time ♪
1699
01:08:06,248 --> 01:08:08,184
Mike Levine:
We had already recorded
"Thunder Seven",
1700
01:08:08,217 --> 01:08:10,386
so we figured whoever
liked that album
1701
01:08:10,419 --> 01:08:11,687
was going to sign us,
1702
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,722
if they came up with
the dough as well.
1703
01:08:14,590 --> 01:08:17,393
Gil Moore:
Irving Azoff had
just taken over MCA,
1704
01:08:17,426 --> 01:08:21,063
which was not the greatest
label at the time.
1705
01:08:21,097 --> 01:08:22,398
Irving Azoff:
When I went to MCA,
1706
01:08:22,431 --> 01:08:24,900
it was this joke of a
record company in the valley
1707
01:08:24,934 --> 01:08:27,069
that nobody wants
to sign to.
1708
01:08:27,103 --> 01:08:28,237
Um, so, you know,
1709
01:08:28,270 --> 01:08:30,239
we had nowhere to go
but up when we started.
1710
01:08:30,272 --> 01:08:32,241
And having been a manager,
1711
01:08:32,274 --> 01:08:35,578
I believed that the core
to a band's longevity
1712
01:08:35,611 --> 01:08:38,581
was the ability to tour
well and sell tickets.
1713
01:08:38,614 --> 01:08:43,119
Triumph was an arena sellout,
headlining mega star.
1714
01:08:43,152 --> 01:08:44,587
They kind of checked
all the boxes
1715
01:08:44,620 --> 01:08:46,789
for what we were looking
for in those days.
1716
01:08:47,656 --> 01:08:50,626
Gil Moore:
So we went over
to meet Irving.
1717
01:08:50,659 --> 01:08:52,795
We sat down for lunch
and Irving said, okay,
1718
01:08:52,828 --> 01:08:53,796
so I got the worst label,
1719
01:08:53,829 --> 01:08:55,331
but I'll pay
the most money.
1720
01:08:55,364 --> 01:08:56,999
So what do you guys
want for lunch?
1721
01:08:57,032 --> 01:09:00,970
(rock music)
1722
01:09:01,003 --> 01:09:04,907
Gil Moore:
It seemed like the start
of phase two of Triumph.
1723
01:09:04,940 --> 01:09:06,408
Reporter:
For five months
of the year,
1724
01:09:06,442 --> 01:09:08,744
touring is a way of
life for Triumph.
1725
01:09:08,777 --> 01:09:11,247
This sold out concert at the
Spectrum in Philadelphia
1726
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:15,584
is just one of 94 stops
on the '85 tour.
1727
01:09:15,618 --> 01:09:18,420
Altogether, a million
people will pay to see
1728
01:09:18,454 --> 01:09:21,790
and hear the high
tech extravaganza
1729
01:09:21,824 --> 01:09:24,126
that is a Triumph
show this year.
1730
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:28,464
♪ Rock and roll
lives and breathes ♪
1731
01:09:28,497 --> 01:09:30,299
Joey Scoleri:
When Triumph came
out with "Thunder Seven",
1732
01:09:30,332 --> 01:09:31,800
they're firing on
all cylinders.
1733
01:09:31,834 --> 01:09:34,970
And they were writing songs
that got on rock radio.
1734
01:09:35,004 --> 01:09:37,973
Levine had the promotion
down to a science
1735
01:09:38,007 --> 01:09:40,309
and they finally started
making really good videos
1736
01:09:40,342 --> 01:09:43,145
that were getting a
ton of play on MTV.
1737
01:09:43,179 --> 01:09:46,482
♪ Keep your dreams alive
1738
01:09:46,515 --> 01:09:48,817
♪ Follow your heart
1739
01:09:48,851 --> 01:09:50,319
♪ You've got to
follow your heart ♪
1740
01:09:50,352 --> 01:09:51,587
Riley OBy that point,
1741
01:09:51,687 --> 01:09:54,690
Triumph was delivering big arena
numbers in the United States
1742
01:09:54,723 --> 01:09:57,026
because they would go into as
many markets as they could
1743
01:09:57,059 --> 01:09:59,028
possibly put their show in
1744
01:09:59,061 --> 01:10:01,730
and all the audiences
were just lapping it up.
1745
01:10:04,099 --> 01:10:06,368
You were driven into
the show experience
1746
01:10:06,402 --> 01:10:10,072
from the opening number and
then it became a journey.
1747
01:10:10,105 --> 01:10:13,209
Let me hear
you out there.
1748
01:10:13,242 --> 01:10:15,211
(crowd cheers)
1749
01:10:15,244 --> 01:10:16,712
Joey Scoleri:
Triumph's
"Thunder Seven"
1750
01:10:16,745 --> 01:10:19,415
it was the envy of
the touring business.
1751
01:10:19,448 --> 01:10:20,549
And at that time,
1752
01:10:20,583 --> 01:10:22,551
Michael Jackson
and his brothers
1753
01:10:22,585 --> 01:10:25,254
were looking to have the
biggest show in pop.
1754
01:10:25,287 --> 01:10:26,722
I think it was
Jermaine and Tito,
1755
01:10:26,755 --> 01:10:27,723
or maybe it was Marlon,
1756
01:10:27,756 --> 01:10:28,891
I can't remember
which ones,
1757
01:10:28,924 --> 01:10:32,094
but those guys went to the
Triumph show in New Mexico,
1758
01:10:32,127 --> 01:10:34,430
saw the show and
went holy shit!
1759
01:10:34,463 --> 01:10:37,099
And then they hired
Triumph's lighting guys.
1760
01:10:37,132 --> 01:10:39,101
What better way to have
the biggest show in pop
1761
01:10:39,134 --> 01:10:41,437
then just to steal the
biggest show in rock?
1762
01:10:41,470 --> 01:10:43,272
(rock music)
1763
01:10:43,305 --> 01:10:46,308
♪ Yes I know
1764
01:10:47,309 --> 01:10:49,111
♪ You've got
to let it go ♪
1765
01:10:49,144 --> 01:10:51,280
(rock music)
(crowd cheers)
1766
01:10:51,313 --> 01:10:52,615
Gil MooreThank you!
1767
01:10:52,648 --> 01:10:54,650
Triumph loves you!
1768
01:10:56,151 --> 01:10:59,455
Reporter:
This year's Triumph
tour is now over,
1769
01:10:59,488 --> 01:11:01,991
but next March after a
new record's released
1770
01:11:02,024 --> 01:11:04,593
the band will be back
on the road again.
1771
01:11:04,627 --> 01:11:07,630
Ninety more concerts
in ninety more cities.
1772
01:11:08,297 --> 01:11:11,000
Rik Emmett:
There was so much
touring and so many gigs
1773
01:11:11,033 --> 01:11:14,003
but the whole landscape
was changing.
1774
01:11:14,036 --> 01:11:17,339
AOR radio did not mean
what it had meant before
1775
01:11:17,373 --> 01:11:20,676
and MCA said "Thunder Seven"
was too album-oriented.
1776
01:11:20,709 --> 01:11:23,679
It's the MTV era,
we-we need hits,
1777
01:11:23,712 --> 01:11:25,114
we gotta get
outside writers.
1778
01:11:25,147 --> 01:11:26,115
So we gotta
get a producer
1779
01:11:26,148 --> 01:11:27,116
that had those kind
of connections
1780
01:11:27,149 --> 01:11:28,517
and brought those songs.
1781
01:11:33,322 --> 01:11:36,392
Ron Nevison:
A lot of people like the
engineering work I did
1782
01:11:36,425 --> 01:11:41,230
on Led Zeppelin, Bad Company,
The Who, Quadrophenia.
1783
01:11:41,263 --> 01:11:43,399
And as a
producer, uh,
1784
01:11:43,432 --> 01:11:44,400
I was on the charts,
1785
01:11:44,433 --> 01:11:47,169
I was, had a
hot mid-80s.
1786
01:11:47,202 --> 01:11:48,904
Summer of '85,
1787
01:11:48,937 --> 01:11:52,007
my Heart single exploded,
"What About Love".
1788
01:11:52,041 --> 01:11:53,909
Rik Emmett:
Ron was the guy that
got parachuted in
1789
01:11:53,942 --> 01:11:55,411
to save these
things commercially
1790
01:11:55,444 --> 01:11:57,579
and now his reputation with
record company presidents
1791
01:11:57,613 --> 01:11:58,580
was he's the man,
1792
01:11:58,614 --> 01:11:59,581
he's the guy
that can do it.
1793
01:11:59,615 --> 01:12:00,916
Ron Nevison:
In those days,
1794
01:12:00,949 --> 01:12:05,454
the albums that had rock hits
that could cross over to pop,
1795
01:12:05,487 --> 01:12:06,522
that was the big success,
1796
01:12:06,555 --> 01:12:08,190
that was what
we aimed for,
1797
01:12:08,223 --> 01:12:10,326
uh, hopefully without
compromising the band.
1798
01:12:11,860 --> 01:12:15,531
I had read that Triumph
was a faceless band,
1799
01:12:15,564 --> 01:12:20,703
so I pushed them a little
bit to have Rik sing mostly.
1800
01:12:20,736 --> 01:12:22,871
It had a lot to
do with MTV,
1801
01:12:22,905 --> 01:12:24,707
lead guitar player,
singer, frontman.
1802
01:12:24,740 --> 01:12:26,842
I thought it would
be a better look.
1803
01:12:26,875 --> 01:12:28,877
Ron's job was to
make records,
1804
01:12:28,911 --> 01:12:32,014
not to supply an
image for a band.
1805
01:12:32,047 --> 01:12:34,750
Ron has a particular
way to work
1806
01:12:34,783 --> 01:12:37,519
and, uh, he can be a
little heavy-handed,
1807
01:12:37,553 --> 01:12:39,922
which is good with a band,
1808
01:12:39,955 --> 01:12:43,225
but Triumph was used to
doing records on their own,
1809
01:12:43,258 --> 01:12:45,427
so it was a little
backwards for them.
1810
01:12:45,461 --> 01:12:46,962
Mike Levine:
Traditionally in Triumph,
you know,
1811
01:12:46,995 --> 01:12:49,798
Gil would sing some songs and
Rik would sing some songs.
1812
01:12:49,832 --> 01:12:52,568
Now it became,
you know, almost a war.
1813
01:12:52,601 --> 01:12:55,404
Ron would play Gil
off against Rik
1814
01:12:55,437 --> 01:12:56,972
or Rik off against Gil,
1815
01:12:57,005 --> 01:12:59,141
and, you know, about
who's going to sing what
1816
01:12:59,174 --> 01:13:01,944
and he'd tell them both they
were going to sing this one song
1817
01:13:01,977 --> 01:13:04,146
and they both
learned it and then,
1818
01:13:04,179 --> 01:13:05,914
no, Gil, you're not
going to sing it,
1819
01:13:05,948 --> 01:13:07,549
or Rik, you're not
going to sing it.
1820
01:13:07,583 --> 01:13:10,552
I'm thinking this is
not going to end well.
1821
01:13:11,387 --> 01:13:13,222
Rik Emmett:
We'd cut all
the beds in LA
1822
01:13:13,255 --> 01:13:15,257
and Ron pulled me aside
1823
01:13:15,290 --> 01:13:17,893
and said you've got to be
able to sing all these songs.
1824
01:13:17,926 --> 01:13:20,329
And I went, whoa,
whoa, whoa, whoa.
1825
01:13:23,665 --> 01:13:25,968
I know that it's
Gil's band,
1826
01:13:26,001 --> 01:13:28,003
really in the end,
it's Gil's band,
1827
01:13:29,004 --> 01:13:31,006
and Ron doesn't
understand that.
1828
01:13:33,108 --> 01:13:35,244
On the flight back
I sat with Gil
1829
01:13:35,277 --> 01:13:37,446
and I broached
the subject.
1830
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,617
I kind of feel like we
should give this a shot.
1831
01:13:41,650 --> 01:13:44,153
And Gil was not
happy with me,
1832
01:13:44,186 --> 01:13:45,487
I was a traitor.
1833
01:13:45,521 --> 01:13:49,491
And so it was like,
oh man, you know,
1834
01:13:49,525 --> 01:13:51,994
I think I even had
tears on that flight.
1835
01:13:53,829 --> 01:13:55,798
Gil Moore:
It's enough of a problem
for us to figure out
1836
01:13:55,831 --> 01:13:58,467
how we're going to
write a really good song
1837
01:13:58,500 --> 01:14:00,202
and how we're going
to perform it,
1838
01:14:00,235 --> 01:14:01,670
we don't need
somebody else in here
1839
01:14:01,703 --> 01:14:04,740
mucking around with a formula
that we already know works.
1840
01:14:04,773 --> 01:14:06,575
Mike Levine:
We're flying home
and nobody's happy
1841
01:14:06,608 --> 01:14:09,311
and we're arguing
about stuff.
1842
01:14:09,344 --> 01:14:11,113
You know, as we
called ourselves,
1843
01:14:11,146 --> 01:14:12,815
the Three Musketeers,
1844
01:14:12,848 --> 01:14:13,916
all of a sudden
we weren't really
1845
01:14:13,949 --> 01:14:15,751
the Three Musketeers anymore.
1846
01:14:15,784 --> 01:14:18,287
That was the very,
very first time
1847
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,490
that I felt isolated
from Mike and Rik,
1848
01:14:21,523 --> 01:14:23,125
I mean, just in every way,
1849
01:14:23,158 --> 01:14:24,793
we just felt like,
you know,
1850
01:14:24,827 --> 01:14:28,530
all of a sudden the brotherhood
just seemed to feel fractured.
1851
01:14:28,564 --> 01:14:32,367
♪ Hold on to love
1852
01:14:32,401 --> 01:14:36,638
♪ Just one night
1853
01:14:36,672 --> 01:14:38,974
♪ Don't try to
fight about it
1854
01:14:39,007 --> 01:14:42,344
♪ Take me I'm yours
1855
01:14:43,345 --> 01:14:46,482
Gil Moore:
We ended up firing
Ron because it was like
1856
01:14:46,515 --> 01:14:47,683
if we don't get away
from this guy,
1857
01:14:47,716 --> 01:14:48,984
we won't even
get a record.
1858
01:14:49,017 --> 01:14:51,687
And aside from his
technical skills,
1859
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,223
Mike Clink was
cheering us on saying,
1860
01:14:54,256 --> 01:14:56,024
you know, hey the world
hasn't come to an end,
1861
01:14:56,058 --> 01:14:57,359
we're going to make
a great record,
1862
01:14:57,392 --> 01:14:59,228
let's pull this together.
1863
01:14:59,261 --> 01:15:02,264
He was our Dr. Phil,
you know,
1864
01:15:03,098 --> 01:15:06,869
that was pulling us back from
the brink of the abyss, really.
1865
01:15:06,902 --> 01:15:09,371
Mike Clink:
We completed 90%
of the record,
1866
01:15:09,404 --> 01:15:12,341
yet we were still
shy of that one song
1867
01:15:12,374 --> 01:15:14,843
and maybe possibly
that one single,
1868
01:15:14,877 --> 01:15:18,747
so it was up to the
band to write that song.
1869
01:15:20,015 --> 01:15:22,050
Irving Azoff:
It was a difficult time
for rock bands in the 80s
1870
01:15:22,084 --> 01:15:26,221
that weren't making three
and a half minute jingles,
1871
01:15:26,255 --> 01:15:28,657
but I never expected
pop hits from Triumph.
1872
01:15:28,690 --> 01:15:30,425
Now I can't tell you
that our, you know,
1873
01:15:30,459 --> 01:15:33,061
one of our promotion
heads didn't say to them,
1874
01:15:33,095 --> 01:15:35,697
give me something I
can put on the radio.
1875
01:15:35,731 --> 01:15:38,033
Mike Levine:
Every promo guy
wants hit singles,
1876
01:15:38,066 --> 01:15:41,537
so we had to deliver
and Ron's gone,
1877
01:15:41,570 --> 01:15:42,971
what are we
going to do?
1878
01:15:43,572 --> 01:15:44,873
Rik, go home.
1879
01:15:44,907 --> 01:15:46,308
Go home and write.
1880
01:15:50,279 --> 01:15:51,613
It was 11th hour.
1881
01:15:51,647 --> 01:15:52,781
(clock chimes)
1882
01:15:52,814 --> 01:15:55,050
Rik Emmett:
I gotta write
about something,
1883
01:15:55,083 --> 01:15:57,452
somehow, some way,
some buddy, somehow,
1884
01:15:57,486 --> 01:15:58,954
something,
somebody, someway.
1885
01:15:58,987 --> 01:16:00,088
(crashing)
1886
01:16:00,122 --> 01:16:03,292
Rik Emmett:
Uh oh, somebody's
out there.
1887
01:16:03,325 --> 01:16:05,193
Somebody's out
there somewhere.
1888
01:16:05,227 --> 01:16:06,695
Hmmm,
1889
01:16:06,728 --> 01:16:07,763
that's something.
1890
01:16:07,796 --> 01:16:14,570
("Somebody's Out There" Intro)
1891
01:16:14,603 --> 01:16:17,706
♪ Is it fate or
random chance
1892
01:16:17,739 --> 01:16:21,777
♪ How can I decide
1893
01:16:21,810 --> 01:16:24,880
♪ Are we victims
of circumstance
1894
01:16:24,913 --> 01:16:28,283
♪ When destinies collide
1895
01:16:29,151 --> 01:16:31,720
Rik Emmett:
"Somebody's Out There" didn't
involve outside writers
1896
01:16:31,753 --> 01:16:34,590
and was just Rik going
you wanna pop single,
1897
01:16:34,623 --> 01:16:37,092
I'll give you a pop single,
here you go.
1898
01:16:38,327 --> 01:16:40,095
Joey Scoleri:
That song had
all the elements
1899
01:16:40,128 --> 01:16:41,430
that radio loved
at that time.
1900
01:16:41,463 --> 01:16:42,598
It had keyboards,
1901
01:16:42,631 --> 01:16:44,099
harmony, vocals,
1902
01:16:44,132 --> 01:16:45,601
a huge chorus.
1903
01:16:45,634 --> 01:16:49,438
♪ Somebody's out
there somewhere ♪
1904
01:16:49,471 --> 01:16:50,973
Joey Scoleri:
Every rock station
played it,
1905
01:16:51,006 --> 01:16:52,441
it crossed over
to pop radio,
1906
01:16:52,474 --> 01:16:56,144
and you heard it every 15
minutes on some radio stat.
1907
01:16:56,178 --> 01:16:57,646
The song was massive.
1908
01:16:59,381 --> 01:17:01,316
Rik Emmett:
Triumph seemed
to me to be like
1909
01:17:01,350 --> 01:17:03,952
this cat that
had nine lives,
1910
01:17:03,986 --> 01:17:06,221
it just kept pulling
itself up off the mat
1911
01:17:06,254 --> 01:17:07,389
and I would go,
1912
01:17:07,422 --> 01:17:09,291
I guess we're going to have
another round of this.
1913
01:17:09,324 --> 01:17:10,792
Announcer:
Five semi-trailer trucks,
1914
01:17:10,826 --> 01:17:12,427
over 100 stagehands,
1915
01:17:12,461 --> 01:17:16,298
set to bring you the biggest
show in rock, Triumph.
1916
01:17:16,331 --> 01:17:17,766
John Roberts:
Gil was always thinking
1917
01:17:17,799 --> 01:17:19,601
about how to make
the band better,
1918
01:17:19,635 --> 01:17:21,436
how to make the
show bigger,
1919
01:17:21,470 --> 01:17:24,006
and he had the drum riser t
comes up out of the ground
1920
01:17:24,039 --> 01:17:25,774
and it looks like
an alien spaceship
1921
01:17:25,807 --> 01:17:27,442
taking off with all
of these lights.
1922
01:17:27,476 --> 01:17:30,112
(drum beating)
1923
01:17:30,145 --> 01:17:32,681
John Roberts:
He really understood
the power of technology
1924
01:17:32,714 --> 01:17:35,150
and how to apply that
to Triumph's live show.
1925
01:17:36,685 --> 01:17:39,821
(crowd cheers)
1926
01:17:39,855 --> 01:17:42,724
Gil Moore:
We were still
completely viable,
1927
01:17:42,758 --> 01:17:45,227
our popularity on radio
wasn't suffering,
1928
01:17:45,260 --> 01:17:47,696
our concert touring
wasn't suffering,
1929
01:17:48,597 --> 01:17:52,434
but the communication
broke down within the band.
1930
01:17:57,606 --> 01:17:59,508
Mike Levine:
Everybody was
somewhat burnt out
1931
01:17:59,541 --> 01:18:01,376
because of all
the bullshit
1932
01:18:01,410 --> 01:18:03,845
around the
"Sport of Kings" record.
1933
01:18:03,879 --> 01:18:08,650
The fallout from
that was-was horrible
1934
01:18:08,684 --> 01:18:11,653
and reflected from
that point onwards
1935
01:18:11,687 --> 01:18:13,155
in the band's career.
1936
01:18:14,322 --> 01:18:17,359
Rik Emmett:
It was very unsettling
1937
01:18:17,392 --> 01:18:21,029
that record companies
somehow could lose that faith
1938
01:18:21,063 --> 01:18:24,499
and that even your partners
might lose that faith,
1939
01:18:24,533 --> 01:18:28,203
you know, like, why are we
losing faith in ourselves?
1940
01:18:28,236 --> 01:18:33,241
Sometimes I ask myself,
how can I maintain this?
1941
01:18:33,909 --> 01:18:36,378
And the answer is that I
don't think that I can.
1942
01:18:37,412 --> 01:18:40,015
The spectre of huge tours
1943
01:18:40,048 --> 01:18:42,184
that last really long
periods of time,
1944
01:18:42,217 --> 01:18:45,554
they just bite too big
a chunk out of my life.
1945
01:18:45,587 --> 01:18:48,056
And I need time
1946
01:18:48,090 --> 01:18:51,226
to be able to do some of the
other things that I want to do.
1947
01:18:51,259 --> 01:18:58,233
(upbeat guitar music)
1948
01:18:58,266 --> 01:19:01,403
♪
1949
01:19:01,436 --> 01:19:04,072
Rik Emmett:
Music is an
infinite challenge.
1950
01:19:04,106 --> 01:19:06,208
Creativity is an
infinite challenge.
1951
01:19:06,241 --> 01:19:08,243
I want to chase that
1952
01:19:08,276 --> 01:19:11,246
and Triumph was feeling
like a box to me.
1953
01:19:11,279 --> 01:19:13,515
(rock music)
1954
01:19:13,548 --> 01:19:16,918
♪ Keeping the faith
is a constant fight
1955
01:19:16,952 --> 01:19:20,555
♪ We live and
we breathe it
1956
01:19:20,589 --> 01:19:24,726
♪ And when you feel
the cause is right
1957
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:28,563
♪ You gotta believe it
1958
01:19:28,597 --> 01:19:32,467
Gil Moore:
Triumph started to feel
more like we were working
1959
01:19:32,501 --> 01:19:38,907
and we had an obligation
to continue as a band
1960
01:19:38,940 --> 01:19:41,910
but for me personally,
you know,
1961
01:19:41,943 --> 01:19:43,411
everything changed
with my father,
1962
01:19:43,445 --> 01:19:48,450
so, um, I don't know that
I would have survived,
1963
01:19:48,683 --> 01:19:53,021
uh, you know, my father's
passing any better than I did.
1964
01:19:55,123 --> 01:20:01,363
(sombre music)
1965
01:20:01,396 --> 01:20:03,565
Gil Moore:
He was my mentor
and my best friend
1966
01:20:04,499 --> 01:20:06,501
and suddenly
he's not there.
1967
01:20:09,004 --> 01:20:12,140
When Triumph started,
he took such a keen interest,
1968
01:20:12,174 --> 01:20:13,975
documenting every
single show,
1969
01:20:14,009 --> 01:20:16,211
handling all our
financial matters
1970
01:20:16,244 --> 01:20:18,847
and teaching me all
his business skills.
1971
01:20:20,015 --> 01:20:21,850
And he was really
proud of the band.
1972
01:20:23,385 --> 01:20:25,687
He was really the fourth
member of Triumph.
1973
01:20:28,089 --> 01:20:30,892
All I can remember was
how horrible it was
1974
01:20:30,926 --> 01:20:34,262
to actually have
to play shows
1975
01:20:34,296 --> 01:20:40,769
and had not made a-a
recovery, uh, psychologically,
1976
01:20:40,802 --> 01:20:44,439
and just go through the
motions like a ghost.
1977
01:20:44,472 --> 01:20:46,942
It adversely affected
Mike and Rik
1978
01:20:46,975 --> 01:20:49,878
because they had to
put up with the fact
1979
01:20:49,911 --> 01:20:53,548
that I was essentially
completely silent
1980
01:20:53,582 --> 01:21:00,589
and we played maybe ten shows
under those circumstances.
1981
01:21:02,257 --> 01:21:05,694
I remember once, in a
conversation with Rik,
1982
01:21:06,595 --> 01:21:09,931
and he said that Triumph
felt like an empty house.
1983
01:21:11,066 --> 01:21:13,535
I knew what a house
full of love was like
1984
01:21:13,568 --> 01:21:15,036
and how it made me feel
1985
01:21:15,070 --> 01:21:17,772
and when he used that
expression I thought,
1986
01:21:17,806 --> 01:21:19,641
I think he's got a point.
1987
01:21:22,277 --> 01:21:27,048
Rik Emmett:
My own unhappiness with the
circumstances of the band,
1988
01:21:27,082 --> 01:21:28,416
the parameters of it,
1989
01:21:28,450 --> 01:21:32,254
the way that it had played
out over 13-odd years,
1990
01:21:32,287 --> 01:21:33,755
I'd had enough.
1991
01:21:33,788 --> 01:21:37,259
I didn't see a future
for myself there anymore.
1992
01:21:41,496 --> 01:21:47,302
This is, "band splits after
wowing 12,000 rock fans.
1993
01:21:47,335 --> 01:21:49,504
"Last show for
Triumph guitarist".
1994
01:21:49,537 --> 01:21:53,141
Yeah, this was the end.
1995
01:21:53,174 --> 01:21:55,110
"Triumph guitarist and
guiding light Rik Emmett
1996
01:21:55,143 --> 01:21:57,112
"played his last show
with the band yesterday
1997
01:21:57,145 --> 01:21:59,314
"in a bittersweet homecoming.
1998
01:21:59,347 --> 01:22:01,950
"Shortly after a show
that left 12,000 fans
1999
01:22:01,983 --> 01:22:04,152
"standing on their feet at
the Kingswood Music Theatre,
2000
01:22:04,185 --> 01:22:05,587
"Emmett announced he
was quitting the band
2001
01:22:05,620 --> 01:22:07,455
"he helped found nearly
two decades ago
2002
01:22:07,489 --> 01:22:08,590
"in the city's west end,
2003
01:22:08,623 --> 01:22:11,993
"and took from beginnings
in the Gasworks Tavern
2004
01:22:12,027 --> 01:22:15,597
"to the heights of the
US Festival in California.
2005
01:22:15,630 --> 01:22:18,099
"Emmett's backstage announcement
capped weeks of rumours
2006
01:22:18,133 --> 01:22:19,668
"that Triumph's
end was near
2007
01:22:19,701 --> 01:22:22,604
"and spelled the end of one
of Toronto's most successful
2008
01:22:22,637 --> 01:22:24,639
"and influential
rock bands".
2009
01:22:27,375 --> 01:22:29,611
Rik Emmett:
I only ever wanted
to be good at music.
2010
01:22:29,644 --> 01:22:31,646
I only wanted to
service my talent
2011
01:22:32,514 --> 01:22:36,318
and I only wanted
to honour my talent
2012
01:22:36,351 --> 01:22:38,486
and Triumph had
become something
2013
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,189
where I could no
longer honour
2014
01:22:41,222 --> 01:22:42,657
in the way that
I wanted to...
2015
01:22:43,692 --> 01:22:47,362
that gift that I possessed.
2016
01:22:47,395 --> 01:22:49,397
And I don't say that.
2017
01:22:53,868 --> 01:22:55,870
I say it with all humility.
2018
01:22:57,872 --> 01:22:59,240
It's called "Say Goodbye".
2019
01:23:00,108 --> 01:23:07,015
(soft guitar music)
2020
01:23:07,048 --> 01:23:10,785
♪
2021
01:23:10,819 --> 01:23:13,955
Gil Moore:
I wanted it to end
on a positive note
2022
01:23:13,989 --> 01:23:18,159
but we went into a
dark place for years.
2023
01:23:19,027 --> 01:23:22,697
Mike Levine:
All those special things
that we did together, uh,
2024
01:23:22,731 --> 01:23:25,867
it was really sad when we
weren't doing them anymore
2025
01:23:26,534 --> 01:23:29,704
and there was acrimony
and that's never any good.
2026
01:23:29,738 --> 01:23:31,206
♪ Say goodbye
2027
01:23:31,239 --> 01:23:37,846
♪ Cuz I'll be leavin'
in the mornin' ♪
2028
01:23:37,879 --> 01:23:40,582
Gil Moore:
It's a strange place
to find yourself in
2029
01:23:40,615 --> 01:23:43,184
when you've played with
the same three guys
2030
01:23:43,218 --> 01:23:46,621
for years and years and then
the guitar player leaves.
2031
01:23:49,057 --> 01:23:50,725
Do you keep going?
Do you replace him?
2032
01:23:50,759 --> 01:23:52,727
It's a tough decision.
2033
01:23:52,761 --> 01:23:55,563
So we decided to
give it a shot
2034
01:23:55,597 --> 01:23:57,632
and that led
us to Phil X.
2035
01:23:57,665 --> 01:24:00,135
♪ Child of the city
2036
01:24:00,168 --> 01:24:01,803
Phil X:
I was a huge fan,
2037
01:24:01,836 --> 01:24:04,739
so it was cool to
go into the studio,
2038
01:24:04,773 --> 01:24:07,275
be holding a guitar and
looking at Gil and Mike.
2039
01:24:08,209 --> 01:24:10,612
So it was kind of like,
is this really happening?
2040
01:24:11,546 --> 01:24:18,186
(rock music)
2041
01:24:18,219 --> 01:24:20,522
Phil X:
We were all in
new territory
2042
01:24:20,555 --> 01:24:22,557
but everybody had
the same goal:
2043
01:24:22,590 --> 01:24:24,225
let's make a great record.
2044
01:24:25,994 --> 01:24:28,563
And I think it was
eleven shows we played,
2045
01:24:28,596 --> 01:24:31,232
and obviously
it's a tough gig.
2046
01:24:31,266 --> 01:24:32,600
People want to
hear the hits
2047
01:24:32,634 --> 01:24:34,436
and if I was in
the audience
2048
01:24:34,469 --> 01:24:36,471
and I didn't see Rik Emmett
play with Triumph,
2049
01:24:36,504 --> 01:24:38,506
I'd be like, who
the fuck is that?
2050
01:24:39,174 --> 01:24:41,643
(rock guitar riff)
2051
01:24:41,676 --> 01:24:43,745
Mike Levine:
It was a great experience
working with Phil
2052
01:24:43,778 --> 01:24:48,450
but it was kind of weird
being on stage without Rik,
2053
01:24:48,483 --> 01:24:50,485
it didn't really
feel like Triumph.
2054
01:24:53,455 --> 01:24:55,623
Gil Moore:
For me it was a
turning point in my life
2055
01:24:55,657 --> 01:24:58,793
and I wanted to spend
time at Metalworks,
2056
01:24:58,827 --> 01:25:01,663
go behind the scenes
and get off the stage.
2057
01:25:02,730 --> 01:25:03,965
Mike Levine:
We had paid our dues,
2058
01:25:03,998 --> 01:25:05,600
had a lot of success,
2059
01:25:05,633 --> 01:25:08,269
and there's other
things in life to do.
2060
01:25:12,941 --> 01:25:14,242
Rik Emmett:
After I left Triumph,
2061
01:25:14,275 --> 01:25:16,744
I was really trying
to figure out
2062
01:25:16,778 --> 01:25:18,813
what kind of an artist
did I want to be
2063
01:25:18,847 --> 01:25:21,116
and how much did
I want to evolve,
2064
01:25:21,149 --> 01:25:25,753
because Triumph had had
enough success at a level
2065
01:25:25,787 --> 01:25:28,423
that it was probably going
to be almost impossible
2066
01:25:28,456 --> 01:25:32,127
for me to overshadow it,
2067
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:35,830
so I knew that there
was a legacy there
2068
01:25:35,864 --> 01:25:37,298
that I would
have to honour,
2069
01:25:37,332 --> 01:25:39,801
not the least of
which was the songs.
2070
01:25:39,834 --> 01:25:41,469
♪ Hold on
2071
01:25:41,503 --> 01:25:43,471
♪ Hold on to your dreams
2072
01:25:43,505 --> 01:25:45,006
♪ Hold on
2073
01:25:45,039 --> 01:25:48,176
Rik Emmett:
I was touring and writing and
eventually making records,
2074
01:25:48,209 --> 01:25:51,312
so I got to scratch a lot of
things off my bucket list.
2075
01:25:51,346 --> 01:25:52,547
If I'd stayed in Triumph,
2076
01:25:52,614 --> 01:25:55,316
I never would have had an
opportunity to do those things.
2077
01:25:55,350 --> 01:25:58,019
(crowd cheers)
2078
01:25:59,220 --> 01:26:02,023
Rik Emmett:
I was really starting
to change who I was.
2079
01:26:03,892 --> 01:26:07,128
But the thing that changed
the world for me was
2080
01:26:07,162 --> 01:26:11,299
my brother Russell
got sick in 2006
2081
01:26:11,332 --> 01:26:14,169
and passed away in
the fall of 2007.
2082
01:26:15,837 --> 01:26:17,639
And he was the
one that said,
2083
01:26:17,672 --> 01:26:19,674
you gotta clean
up this baggage.
2084
01:26:19,707 --> 01:26:23,044
My dying wish, you gotta
fix things with Triumph.
2085
01:26:24,045 --> 01:26:25,480
And the olive
branch was there
2086
01:26:25,513 --> 01:26:27,849
and I said,
okay, I'll try.
2087
01:26:28,750 --> 01:26:29,984
(crowd cheers)
2088
01:26:30,018 --> 01:26:31,186
Tom Cochrane:
Ladies and gentlemen,
2089
01:26:31,219 --> 01:26:33,388
it's a great pleasure to
welcome the newest members
2090
01:26:33,421 --> 01:26:34,689
to the
Canadian Music Hall of Fame
2091
01:26:34,722 --> 01:26:35,890
and my friends,
2092
01:26:35,924 --> 01:26:38,426
Rik Emmett, Mike Levine,
2093
01:26:38,459 --> 01:26:40,361
one of my best friends,
2094
01:26:40,395 --> 01:26:43,031
Gil 'The Impaler' Moore,
of Triumph.
2095
01:26:43,064 --> 01:26:44,599
Yeah, lets hear
it for Triumph!
2096
01:26:44,632 --> 01:26:46,000
(crowd cheers)
2097
01:26:46,034 --> 01:26:49,370
Gil Moore:
Being inducted into the
Canadian Music Hall of Fame
2098
01:26:49,404 --> 01:26:50,572
in 2008,
2099
01:26:50,605 --> 01:26:52,207
turned out
to be a catalyst
2100
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,242
to get back
together with Rik.
2101
01:26:56,778 --> 01:26:59,714
Rik Emmett:
And I didn't realize it
meant that much to me.
2102
01:26:59,747 --> 01:27:01,883
Now I know that it
does and that it did.
2103
01:27:01,916 --> 01:27:05,853
(crowd cheers)
2104
01:27:06,554 --> 01:27:08,890
Gil Moore:
Through that process
it just seemed like
2105
01:27:08,923 --> 01:27:11,059
we got to get a couple
of shows on the road
2106
01:27:11,092 --> 01:27:13,728
to show our kids
what's going on
2107
01:27:13,761 --> 01:27:15,763
and interact
with each other.
2108
01:27:16,431 --> 01:27:18,099
Mike Levine:
The fun part of
it was there,
2109
01:27:18,132 --> 01:27:20,702
which was always part
of the Three Musketeers,
2110
01:27:20,735 --> 01:27:22,737
when we were on the
road all the time.
2111
01:27:23,605 --> 01:27:25,573
Rik Emmett:
You know, I'd
lost my brother
2112
01:27:25,607 --> 01:27:28,543
but the beautiful thing
about the Triumph reunion
2113
01:27:28,576 --> 01:27:32,714
was I got other brothers back
that I'd lost for decades,
2114
01:27:32,747 --> 01:27:35,984
so that was kind of
like a sweet miracle.
2115
01:27:37,418 --> 01:27:40,221
Twenty years is a long time
to not talk to each other.
2116
01:27:40,255 --> 01:27:42,056
I-I broke their hearts,
I know I did
2117
01:27:42,090 --> 01:27:44,492
and I felt, you know,
it's a terrible thing.
2118
01:27:44,525 --> 01:27:47,929
Um, there was a lot guilt.
2119
01:27:47,962 --> 01:27:50,632
I had a lot of anger
2120
01:27:50,665 --> 01:27:52,934
but when you're angry,
in the end,
2121
01:27:52,967 --> 01:27:55,103
who are you angry at
in those circumstances,
2122
01:27:55,136 --> 01:27:57,005
you're angry at yourself
2123
01:27:57,038 --> 01:28:01,776
for not being able to figure
it out and move past it.
2124
01:28:01,809 --> 01:28:03,811
And you try to be
angry at other people
2125
01:28:03,845 --> 01:28:07,582
and blame them and you go,
but it's not them,
2126
01:28:07,615 --> 01:28:08,583
this is all on you,
2127
01:28:08,616 --> 01:28:11,452
you're the one that
has to figure this out.
2128
01:28:11,486 --> 01:28:13,388
So, it took me
a long time,
2129
01:28:13,421 --> 01:28:16,724
but in the end I think
I'm better for it.
2130
01:28:16,758 --> 01:28:19,260
And I think Triumph
fans are better for it.
2131
01:28:20,862 --> 01:28:24,165
(rock music)
(crowd cheers)
2132
01:28:24,198 --> 01:28:28,269
♪ I know that I can
survive just fine
2133
01:28:28,303 --> 01:28:32,273
♪ I said I can survive
2134
01:28:32,307 --> 01:28:39,280
♪ I said I can
survive on my own ♪
2135
01:28:39,314 --> 01:28:49,957
♪
2136
01:28:49,991 --> 01:28:51,159
Wow.
2137
01:28:51,192 --> 01:28:52,827
I'm from Honolulu, Hawaii.
2138
01:28:52,860 --> 01:28:53,895
I came up from Connecticut.
2139
01:28:53,928 --> 01:28:55,330
Dripping Springs, Texas.
2140
01:28:55,363 --> 01:28:56,331
San Antonio.
2141
01:28:56,364 --> 01:28:58,566
We are the only
one from Brazil
2142
01:28:58,599 --> 01:28:59,567
that are enjoying this,
2143
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:01,569
it is such a
huge privilege.
2144
01:29:01,602 --> 01:29:03,404
Nancy Inch:
There's photos that
I've never seen.
2145
01:29:03,438 --> 01:29:05,206
This is like
early seventies.
2146
01:29:05,239 --> 01:29:07,709
I've only gotten ten feet
and I can't breathe.
2147
01:29:08,710 --> 01:29:11,312
I wasn't sure what to
expect for this fan event
2148
01:29:11,346 --> 01:29:13,481
and I'm in it and
I'm still not sure
2149
01:29:13,514 --> 01:29:16,017
what I'm supposed to expect
because this is beyond
2150
01:29:16,050 --> 01:29:20,121
any of my wildest fantasies
that I could have dared dr.
2151
01:29:20,154 --> 01:29:21,522
Matty!
-What's up Nancy?
2152
01:29:21,556 --> 01:29:22,657
Nancy Inch:
Did you see-did
you see this?
2153
01:29:22,690 --> 01:29:23,958
No, I haven't
seen that one.
2154
01:29:23,991 --> 01:29:25,059
Okay, take it in.
2155
01:29:25,093 --> 01:29:27,362
It's the handwritten lyrics
to "Lay it on the Line".
2156
01:29:27,395 --> 01:29:28,363
Get the hell out.
2157
01:29:28,396 --> 01:29:29,564
Yeah.
2158
01:29:29,597 --> 01:29:31,032
Matt Hoffman:
This is blowing me away.
2159
01:29:31,065 --> 01:29:33,334
Man, I'm so glad I
stayed a Triumph fan
2160
01:29:33,368 --> 01:29:34,369
and I'm part of
this experience.
2161
01:29:34,402 --> 01:29:37,538
This is, this is
truly amazing.
2162
01:29:37,572 --> 01:29:41,042
Paulette Borkowski:
We all have that same common
thread of the commitment,
2163
01:29:41,075 --> 01:29:43,177
nobody would be here if
they weren't committed,
2164
01:29:43,211 --> 01:29:44,846
but Triumph breaking up,
you know,
2165
01:29:44,879 --> 01:29:46,881
decades and decades ago,
2166
01:29:46,914 --> 01:29:49,350
there's people that
still wanted more.
2167
01:29:49,384 --> 01:29:51,352
Gil Moore:
We really were connecting
with each other
2168
01:29:51,386 --> 01:29:54,856
more than with our fans in
Sweden and at Rocklahoma,
2169
01:29:54,889 --> 01:29:58,226
and so the fan event
needed to be intimate
2170
01:29:58,259 --> 01:30:01,295
because really it's for the
hardest of the hardcore
2171
01:30:01,329 --> 01:30:03,398
Triumph fans who
were the most loyal,
2172
01:30:03,431 --> 01:30:04,966
the most dedicated
2173
01:30:04,999 --> 01:30:08,102
and stuck with us for
years and years and years,
2174
01:30:08,136 --> 01:30:12,273
so it's about being able to
give something back to them.
2175
01:30:13,107 --> 01:30:14,308
Joey Scoleri:
Good afternoon, everybody.
2176
01:30:14,342 --> 01:30:15,443
How are we doing today?
2177
01:30:15,476 --> 01:30:17,812
(crowd cheers)
2178
01:30:17,845 --> 01:30:19,247
Joey Scoleri:
Triumph super fans!
2179
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:21,416
(crowd cheers)
2180
01:30:21,449 --> 01:30:22,850
This is awesome.
2181
01:30:22,950 --> 01:30:26,454
Mike Levine:
Unbeknownst to the fans,
they had no idea we were there.
2182
01:30:26,487 --> 01:30:28,823
They hadn't seen us
and they're all seated
2183
01:30:28,856 --> 01:30:32,193
to watch a thank you video
that we put together.
2184
01:30:32,226 --> 01:30:33,961
Direct your attention
to the screen here,
2185
01:30:33,995 --> 01:30:35,797
I think you're going to
really enjoy this video.
2186
01:30:35,830 --> 01:30:36,898
(crowd cheers)
2187
01:30:36,931 --> 01:30:38,466
Mike Levine:
We're hiding
behind the screen
2188
01:30:38,499 --> 01:30:41,836
and we can see out but
nobody can see in.
2189
01:30:42,737 --> 01:30:45,339
What we're feeling
backstage is, boy,
2190
01:30:45,373 --> 01:30:48,142
these are the top
fans that we have.
2191
01:30:48,176 --> 01:30:49,644
We may never play again.
2192
01:30:49,677 --> 01:30:52,146
We better be really
fucking good.
2193
01:30:52,180 --> 01:30:54,549
Gil Moore:
We've always felt this
huge debt to our fans.
2194
01:30:54,582 --> 01:30:59,153
It fascinates me how
strong their feelings are
2195
01:30:59,187 --> 01:31:01,022
after all these
years with the band,
2196
01:31:01,055 --> 01:31:04,559
it's hard to get over,
really, you know,
2197
01:31:04,592 --> 01:31:05,526
I want to see them,
2198
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:06,794
I want to
shake their hands.
2199
01:31:06,828 --> 01:31:08,029
Thank them.
2200
01:31:08,062 --> 01:31:10,865
(crowd cheers)
2201
01:31:10,898 --> 01:31:13,534
(rock music)
2202
01:31:13,568 --> 01:31:15,470
(crowd cheers)
2203
01:31:15,503 --> 01:31:20,975
(rock music)
2204
01:31:21,008 --> 01:31:27,515
("When the Lights Go Down"
by Triumph)
2205
01:31:27,548 --> 01:31:28,516
♪
2206
01:31:28,549 --> 01:31:32,653
♪ Spotlights
2207
01:31:32,687 --> 01:31:36,324
♪ Houselights
ready to cue
2208
01:31:36,357 --> 01:31:40,194
♪ Backstage
smoke is risin'
2209
01:31:40,228 --> 01:31:43,698
♪ Steaming like
a witch's brew
2210
01:31:43,731 --> 01:31:47,702
♪ I wanna play
some rock 'n' roll
2211
01:31:47,735 --> 01:31:51,706
♪ I wanna sing the blues
2212
01:31:51,739 --> 01:31:54,542
♪ But I've had enough
2213
01:31:54,575 --> 01:31:57,044
♪ I feel it comin'
2214
01:31:57,078 --> 01:32:00,214
♪ Left the party roll
2215
01:32:00,248 --> 01:32:04,252
♪ When the
lights go down
2216
01:32:04,285 --> 01:32:07,889
♪ We're ready to
play the blues
2217
01:32:07,922 --> 01:32:12,593
♪ When the
lights go down
2218
01:32:12,627 --> 01:32:14,862
♪ It's time to light
2219
01:32:14,896 --> 01:32:16,697
♪ Time to light
2220
01:32:16,731 --> 01:32:19,934
♪ Time to light the fuse
2221
01:32:19,967 --> 01:32:23,437
(crowd cheers)
(loud rock music)
2222
01:32:23,471 --> 01:32:24,705
Rik Emmett:
Talk about surreal,
2223
01:32:24,739 --> 01:32:27,375
it was like all of
those kinds of moments
2224
01:32:27,408 --> 01:32:29,710
of like being on stage
at the US Festival,
2225
01:32:29,744 --> 01:32:32,046
being on stage at the
Aragon in Chicago
2226
01:32:32,079 --> 01:32:33,214
or Maple Leaf Gardens,
2227
01:32:33,247 --> 01:32:35,583
they're all part and
parcel of this tsunami
2228
01:32:35,616 --> 01:32:38,085
that's coming over
you from the fans.
2229
01:32:38,119 --> 01:32:40,388
Mike Levine:
How's everybody
doing today?
2230
01:32:40,421 --> 01:32:42,623
(crowd cheers)
2231
01:32:42,657 --> 01:32:44,592
Mike Levine:
Being on stage with
Rik and Gil again,
2232
01:32:44,625 --> 01:32:47,261
I mean, that was quite
an emotional experience
2233
01:32:47,295 --> 01:32:49,664
and I think it
was a validation
2234
01:32:49,697 --> 01:32:53,100
as to what we actually
meant to people's lives,
2235
01:32:53,134 --> 01:32:55,136
how we could thrill
them with our music.
2236
01:32:55,169 --> 01:32:56,637
It was pretty incredible.
2237
01:32:56,671 --> 01:32:58,940
It's like really
special for us.
2238
01:32:58,973 --> 01:33:01,342
We want to thank you
guys for coming.
2239
01:33:01,375 --> 01:33:03,711
I think you know
what to do right now.
2240
01:33:04,712 --> 01:33:06,747
Gil Moore:
In a band there
are milestones,
2241
01:33:06,781 --> 01:33:08,950
if you're lucky enough
to be successful
2242
01:33:08,983 --> 01:33:10,618
the first time you
get a gold record
2243
01:33:10,651 --> 01:33:12,453
or your sell
out a concert,
2244
01:33:12,486 --> 01:33:15,957
and the fan event
was in that realm
2245
01:33:15,990 --> 01:33:19,760
of life's greatest moments
that you'll never forget.
2246
01:33:19,794 --> 01:33:21,095
♪ Come on and sing now
2247
01:33:21,128 --> 01:33:22,430
♪ I'm young now
2248
01:33:22,463 --> 01:33:27,435
♪ I'm wild now,
I want to be free
2249
01:33:27,468 --> 01:33:33,641
♪ Got the magic power
of the music in me ♪
2250
01:33:33,674 --> 01:33:35,142
♪ I'm young now
2251
01:33:35,176 --> 01:33:39,814
♪ I'm wild and I'm free
2252
01:33:39,847 --> 01:33:45,453
♪ Got the magic
power of the music
2253
01:33:45,486 --> 01:33:50,324
♪ I got the music
2254
01:33:51,692 --> 01:33:54,161
♪ Yeah yeah
2255
01:33:54,195 --> 01:34:11,946
♪
2256
01:34:11,979 --> 01:34:20,988
(crowd cheers)
2257
01:34:21,155 --> 01:34:23,124
Mike Levine:
Thank you everybody!
2258
01:34:23,157 --> 01:34:25,660
Triumph loves you!
2259
01:34:25,693 --> 01:34:35,703
(crowd cheers)
2260
01:34:45,379 --> 01:34:55,389
(crowd cheers)
2261
01:35:05,433 --> 01:35:12,339
(crowd cheers)
2262
01:35:12,373 --> 01:35:15,342
(crowd chants "Triumph")
2263
01:35:15,376 --> 01:35:16,377
Joey Scoleri:
All right, everybody.
2264
01:35:16,410 --> 01:35:17,511
Let's hear it
for Triumph!
2265
01:35:17,545 --> 01:35:18,846
How did ya like that?
2266
01:35:18,879 --> 01:35:23,384
(crowd cheers)
2267
01:35:23,417 --> 01:35:25,086
Joey Scoleri:
That was pretty
amazing, right?
2268
01:35:25,119 --> 01:35:30,357
(rock music)
2269
01:35:30,391 --> 01:35:33,060
I just cannot tell you
how much you meant to me
2270
01:35:33,094 --> 01:35:35,563
as a young person
starting to play music,
2271
01:35:35,596 --> 01:35:37,098
how much you
inspired me,
2272
01:35:37,131 --> 01:35:38,632
how much you
made me believe
2273
01:35:38,666 --> 01:35:41,936
that coming from Toronto,
Canada things could happen.
2274
01:35:46,440 --> 01:35:47,975
Rik Emmett:
Credit and thanks goes
to my two partners,
2275
01:35:48,008 --> 01:35:49,043
Gil and Mike,
2276
01:35:49,076 --> 01:35:52,313
who invited me along on
their quest for success.
2277
01:35:52,346 --> 01:35:53,781
Interviewer:
What have you
got planned?
2278
01:35:53,814 --> 01:35:57,418
Is it going to be more
spectacular than anything ever?
2279
01:35:57,451 --> 01:35:58,586
Absolutely.
2280
01:35:58,619 --> 01:36:00,087
Mike Levine:
We'd like to
share this award
2281
01:36:00,121 --> 01:36:01,255
with those in the
music industry
2282
01:36:01,288 --> 01:36:02,823
who helped us do
the heavy lifting
2283
01:36:02,857 --> 01:36:04,458
at the very
beginning of
the band.
2284
01:36:04,492 --> 01:36:06,560
We know who you are
and we thank you.
2285
01:36:06,594 --> 01:36:07,962
Crew:
We take a lot
of precautions.
2286
01:36:07,995 --> 01:36:08,963
JD Roberts:
Do you ever
have accidents?
2287
01:36:08,996 --> 01:36:09,964
No.
2288
01:36:09,997 --> 01:36:10,965
(explosion booms)
2289
01:36:10,998 --> 01:36:12,399
No, not too often.
2290
01:36:12,433 --> 01:36:13,734
You must think to
yourself that eventually
2291
01:36:13,768 --> 01:36:15,569
the rock and roll
machine is just gonna
2292
01:36:15,603 --> 01:36:17,972
sputter out and
run out of gas.
2293
01:36:20,141 --> 01:36:21,408
(laughs)
2294
01:36:21,442 --> 01:36:22,409
Gil Moore:
Mike and Rik,
2295
01:36:22,543 --> 01:36:24,411
thank you for
your enduring
friendship.
2296
01:36:24,445 --> 01:36:25,412
We're a team.
2297
01:36:25,446 --> 01:36:27,314
We'll be a
team forever.
2298
01:36:27,348 --> 01:36:28,582
Thank you.
2299
01:36:28,616 --> 01:36:45,866
(crowd applauds)
2300
01:36:45,866 --> 01:36:47,468
JD Roberts:
When you walked
up the ramp
2301
01:36:47,501 --> 01:36:49,136
and you looked out
into that amphitheatre
2302
01:36:49,170 --> 01:36:51,639
and saw 300,000 people,
what did you think?
2303
01:36:51,672 --> 01:36:54,041
It's good to see
California is into Triumph.
2304
01:36:55,409 --> 01:36:57,411
I mean you didn't go,
holy shit.
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