Original subtitles

- TONIGHT, THE REUNION CONCLUDES.

- SHE'D KIND OF BEEN POKING...

- ME? - ALL EVENING. YEAH, YOU.

- "DID YOU KNOW? 25,000."

- SHE SAYS, "I WANT TO SLEEP WITH YOUR HUSBAND."

- I DO. - THAT'S WHAT SHE SAYS.

- HE GRABBED ME, THREW ME IN THE POOL,

HELD ME UNDER UNTIL I WAS...

ALMOST DROWNING.

- AND KIM RICHARDS SPEAKS.

CAN YOU TELL US WHAT YOU SOUGHT TREATMENT FOR?

- YEAH.

I'M AN ALCOHOLIC.

TAYLOR, WE MENTIONED EARLIER

THAT YOU JUST FINISHED A BOOK.

RIGHT AFTER RUSSELL'S DEATH,

HIS BUSINESS ASSOCIATE

ALSO COMMITTED SUICIDE. - MM-HMM.

- DO YOU THINK THE TWO WERE RELATED?

- I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE LINK IS.

THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT THINK

THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN I KNOW.

AND THEY'VE ASKED ME TO COME AND MEET WITH THEM.

I HATE TO SAY IT,

BUT IT WOULD GIVE ME GREAT SOLACE TO THINK

THAT THIS WAS AT THE HANDS OF SOMEONE ELSE,

AS OPPOSED TO MY HUSBAND BEING IN SUCH DESPAIR

THAT HE TOOK HIS OWN LIFE.

- OH, SO YOU THINK THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY

THAT THIS COULD BE A MURDER.

- WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO STOP.

- SO HAVING DISCOVERED HIM, WHAT'S YOUR GUT?

- HE WAS SUCH A TOUGH GUY,

AND I FIND IT REALLY HARD TO BELIEVE

THAT SOMEONE COULD CONVINCE HIM

TO DO SOMETHING HE DIDN'T WANT TO DO,

WITHOUT A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT FIGHT.

- A PART OF YOUR BOOK THAT REALLY SURPRISED ME

WAS THAT YOU TALK ABOUT

THAT RUSSELL USED TO MONITOR YOU, SECRETLY.

- MM-HMM. - HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?

- I GUESS THE FIRST TIME I FOUND RECORDING DEVICES,

I WAS TRYING TO PRINT A DOCUMENT

AND IT WASN'T CONNECTING.

THE COMPUTER AND THE PRINTER HAD LOST THE CONNECTION.

SO I CRAWLED UNDER THE DESK.

AND I LOOKED UP AND I SAW A RECORDING DEVICE--

A SMALL TAPE RECORDER--

ATTACHED TO THE BOTTOM OF THE DESK.

AND I PULLED IT DOWN.

AND HE HAD BEEN RECORDING ME EVERY DAY

WHEN HE LEFT FOR WORK.

- JUST ALL DAY LONG? - MM-HMM.

'CAUSE HE KNEW I'D BE IN THE OFFICE ALL DAY.

AND IT, YOU KNOW, WENT ON FROM THERE.

I HAD HOUSEKEEPERS FIND RECORDING DEVICES.

I HAD RECORDING DEVICES IN MY CARS.

- HE ACTUALLY HAD YOU TAKE A LIE DETECTOR TEST ONCE--

TO PROVE WHAT?

- I TOOK A POLYGRAPH TEST, UM,

AFTER A FEW YEARS OF HIM ACCUSING ME

OF HAVING RELATIONSHIPS WITH PEOPLE

THAT I HADN'T HAD RELATIONSHIPS WITH.

AND FINALLY-- HE KEPT SAYING

"I'M GOING TO MAKE YOU TAKE A LIE DETECTOR--

I'M GOING TO MAKE YOU TAKE A LIE--"

AND FINALLY, ONE DAY I JUST SAID,

"TAKE ME." AND SO WE WENT. AND--

- AND YOU PASSED, RIGHT? - 100%.

THE QUESTIONS WERE RIDICULOUS.

- AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED AFTER YOU PASSED?

- ABOUT A MONTH LATER HE SAID,

"I'M CONVINCED THAT YOU KNOW HOW TO CHEAT A POLYGRAPH."

THAT, OR A PAID OFF THE EXAMINER.

- YOU ALSO GO INTO DETAIL

ABOUT HOW HE WENT ON THE ATTACK

WHEN HE OVERHEARD YOU TALKING TO SOMEONE

WHO WAS OFFERING YOU HELP. - MM-HMM.

- WHAT HAPPENED THERE?

- I WAS AT MY FRIENDS' HOUSE.

THEY WERE PLANNING THEIR WEDDING.

AND I WAS SITTING, IN THEIR BACKYARD,

WITH RUSSELL. UM, HE WENT HOME,

AND I STAYED TO LISTEN

TO THE REST OF THE WEDDING PLANNING,

'CAUSE HE WASN'T INTERESTED.

AND APPARENTLY HE WAS HIDING IN THE BUSHES.

AND HER FIANCE SAID, "WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED

ABOUT YOU, AND WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW"--

AS THEY WERE WALKING ME OUT--

"IF YOU NEED ANY HELP, WE'RE HERE FOR YOU.

WE'LL GET YOU AN APARTMENT-- WHATEVER YOU NEED."

AND I SAID, "JUST TAKE CARE OF KENNEDY

IF ANYTHING HAPPENS." AND, UH...

UM, SORRY.

HE JUMPED OUT OF THE BUSHES,

HIT MY FRIEND'S HUSBAND IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD

SEVERAL TIMES,

GRABBED ME, THREW ME IN THE POOL,

HELD ME UNDER UNTIL I WAS...

ALMOST DROWNING.

AND BY THAT POINT, THE FRIEND HAD COME TO

AND WAS STARTING TO-- I THINK HE THREW HIM IN FIRST,

AND THEN HE WAS STARTING TO MAKE HIS WAY

OUT THE END OF THE POOL.

UM, SO HE LET ME GO.

THREW MY GIRLFRIEND IN THE POOL, THREW THE DOG IN THE POOL.

WENT AND STARTED A FIGHT,

AND THE GUY ENDED UP GETTING TAKEN AWAY

IN AN AMBULANCE.

UM, PLASTIC SURGERY HERE-- $10,000 IN VENEERS.

- SO DID YOUR FRIEND PROSECUTE RUSSELL FOR THIS?

- NO, BECAUSE I ASKED THEM NOT TO.

I ASKED THEM NOT TO...

TO DO ANYTHING, BECAUSE I WAS CONCERNED

ABOUT HOW KENNEDY AND I WOULD SURVIVE.

- BENNETT FROM GREEN BAY SAID,

"TAYLOR, YOU CLAIM THAT CAMILLE EXAGGERATED

"WHAT YOU TOLD HER ABOUT RUSSELL'S ABUSE.

HOW SO?"

- IT WAS NOT AN EXAGGERATION, I GUESS.

WHAT I MEANT WAS,

I SAID HE DISLOCATED MY JAW,

SHE SAID "BROKE," AND SO RUSSELL FELT LIKE

THAT WAS, LIKE, THE PERFECT THING

FOR HIM TO GO IN AND SAY,

"WE CAN MAKE HIM TAKE IT OUT OF THE SHOW,

"BECAUSE SHE SAID 'BROKE' AND IT WAS REALLY

JUST POPPED OUT OF THE SOCKET."

- I READ IN THE BOOK THAT YOUR JAW WAS POPPED OUT

OF ITS SOCKET AND YOU POPPED IT BACK IN YOURSELF?

- MM-HMM. OVER A TOILET.

- BRANDI, IN YOUR BLOG YOU WROTE,

"AFTER MY PARTY IN MALIBU,

I DECIDED TO STAY AWAY

FROM THE WHOLE TAYLOR AND RUSSELL SITUATION,

BECAUSE NOTHING WAS ADDING UP TO ME.

WHAT'D YOU MEAN BY THAT?

- JUST NONE OF IT MAKES SENSE TO ME.

I GUESS I'M IN THE GROUP

THAT THINKS THAT IT ALL DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

IT FREAKS ME OUT AS WELL,

BECAUSE HE CAN'T DEFEND HIMSELF.

AND I JUST FEEL LIKE...

I DON'T EVEN WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.

LIKE, THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE WHOLE SITUATION.

- SO HAVING-- - WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS.

IT CREEPS US OUT ALTOGETHER. - IT CREEPS US OUT.

- THE WHOLE THING, 'CAUSE IT'S SO HORRIFIC.

- I'M SORRY WHAT I SAID ABOUT YOUR BOOK.

BUT YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE--

ME SLASHING TIRES.

- I SAID THAT AFTER. YOU SAID THE BOOK THING FIRST.

- NO, I'M SAYING, "WHEN SOMEONE BITES, I BITE BACK."

- NO, WAIT. YOU SAID THE BOOK THING FIRST.

- I JUST SAID I WAS SORRY.

- OKAY, BUT YOU SAID IT FIRST. SO I'M SORRY TOO.

- I'M SAYING, "I'M SORRY." - OKAY.

- KATHY FROM MEMPHIS SAID,

"TAYLOR, LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT.

"RUSSELL ABUSED YOU AND SMASHED YOUR HEAD,

"YET YOU STAYED WITH HIM. BUT THE MOMENT YOU WERE GOING

"TO GET TOSSED OUT OF YOUR HOUSEWIVES CIRCLE,

"BECAUSE OF RUSSELL THREATENING A LAWSUIT,

YOU FINALLY MOVED OUT. WHAT GIVES?"

- IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

UM, I HAD AN MRI RESULT

WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT I HAD AN ORBITAL FLOOR BLOW-OUT.

AND I NEEDED TWO--

A CRANIOFACIAL RECONSTRUCTIVE SURGEON

AND AN ORBITAL RECONSTRUCTIVE SURGEON

TO RECONSTRUCT MY ORBITAL FLOOR,

AND I COULD HAVE LOST MY EYE.

THAT'S WHAT MADE ME LEAVE.

IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HOUSEWIVES.

- I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN REALLY DIFFICULT

TO REEXAMINE, AND SO-- - YOU KNOW WHAT, THOUGH?

IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME, ANDY, BECAUSE I'M--

I HAVE RECOGNIZED NOW

THAT I WAS LIVING IN A VERY UNHEALTHY ENVIRONMENT

AND I DRUG A LOT OF MY FRIENDS INTO IT.

AND I HAVE A LOT OF REMORSE FOR THAT.

AND I HAVE REMORSE FOR MY HUSBAND'S DEATH

AND REMORSE FOR LETTING MY CHILD LIVE IN A DANGEROUS SITUATION.

AND SO NOW I'M JUST DUSTING MYSELF OFF

AND HOPING THAT PEOPLE CAN FORGIVE AND FORGET.

AND PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIKE ME

HAVEN'T LIVED A DAY IN MY SHOES.

- WELL, BEST OF LUCK. - THANK YOU.

- JOINING US NOW IS A FRESH FACE

ON THE 90120 HOUSEWIVES SCENE.

IT IS DANA/PAM. - WHOO!

- HEY, DANA. - HEY, HOW ARE YOU?

- GREAT, HOW ARE YOU? - GOOD.

- YOU LOOK FIRED UP AND READY TO GO.

- I'M READY. LET'S DO SOMETHING.

- WOW. [laughter]

OH, MY GOD.

DARE I ASK WHO YOU'RE WEARING TONIGHT?

- I'M NOT TELLING. - ACTUALLY, CHECK OUT HER SHOES.

- NO, I'M NOT TELLING! - NO, NO, NO.

- NO, I'M NOT TELLING EVER AGAIN.

- SHOW THE SHOES. - OH, THIS IS HOW I FEEL,

ALL SEASON LONG, BUT I NEVER SAY IT.

[laughs] - YOU BASICALLY DO SAY IT.

- [laughs] I DO, RIGHT? - YOUR SHOES SAY, UM--

- THE "EFF U" WORD. [laughs] - "EFF U," BASICALLY, YES.

- THEY'RE ACTUALLY A MIDDLE FINGER

WITH A DIAMOND ON IT. I THOUGHT THAT WAS HOT.

- PERFECT. THAT'S PERFECT.

- JUST CLASSIN' IT UP A LITTLE HIGHER.

- EXACTLY, EXACTLY.

WELL, BEING THE NEW GIRL ON THE BLOCK IS NEVER EASY,

BUT DECKED OUT IN HER $25,000 SHADES,

VALENTINO HOT PANTS,

AND MILLION-DOLLAR LOLLIPOP HOLDER,

DANA HAS DEFINITELY ANNOUNCED THAT SHE'S ARRIVED.

- I'M DOING, LIKE, A SUPER-MEGA-WEDDING.

I'M RENTING OUT A CASTLE.

IT'LL BE RIGHT OUTSIDE OF PARIS.

I'M STILL TRYING TO BE A PRINCESS.

- DANA LIKES THINGS OVER THE TOP.

SHE'S DEFINITELY OUT THERE.

SHE'S NOT AFRAID TO BE WHO SHE IS.

AND, I THINK, THE MORE OVER THE TOP THE BETTER, FOR HER.

- I LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE ON. - THIS IS VALENTINO.

SO IT'S 125 KARATS OF PERFECT DIAMOND.

IT'S FOR SALE FOR A MILLION DOLLARS.

- LOOK AT THOSE BEAUTIFUL GLASSES.

- AND THEY WERE 25,000.

DID YOU KNOW? 25,000.

- INSANE. - THAT'S RIGHT.

- MOST PEOPLE THAT HAVE A LOT OF MONEY

DON'T REALLY BRAG TOO MUCH ABOUT IT.

AND THAT'S THE HONEST TRUTH.

- LISTEN, KIM, I LIKE YOU.

YOU WANT TO DO, LIKE, A HEALTHY, SAFE THING?

LIKE ALL OF US? A HEALTHY, SAFE VACA?

LET'S DO IT.

- DANA WAS REALLY, REALLY, REALLY FAR UP

KIM AND KYLE'S ASSES.

- WE'RE TOGETHER FOREVER-- THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ABOUT,

ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.

- WHO?

[laughter covers video audio]

- AND A MILLION OTHERS.

WE'RE ALWAYS--FOREVER-- THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

[laughter]

- WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?

- I WAS THINKING, "WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS WOMAN?

WHAT'S SHE TALKING ABOUT?"

- I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT EITHER.

I WAS HAMMERED.

- SHE WAS LIKE, "COME ON, LET'S JUST DO IT."

- I WAS LIKE, "SAFE AND HAPPY, LET'S DO IT."

- ACTUALLY, YOU DO A GREAT IMPERSONATION

OF--OF DANA. CAN YOU DO IT?

- "25,000. DID YOU KNOW?

25,000."

- WELL, DANA,

IT DOESN'T TAKE A BABY GENIUS

TO KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER ONE QUESTION

COMING YOUR WAY IS.

ERIC IN JERSEY CITY SAID IT BEST.

"$25,000 FOR SUNGLASSES?

"ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR EFF-ING MIND?

DON'T YOU HAVE BETTER THINGS TO SPEND YOUR MONEY ON?"

- WELL, I MEAN, I DIDN'T THINK

IT WAS SUCH A BIG DEAL, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

I MEAN, I LOOKED AROUND AT THE GIRLS.

AND SHE'S GOT A JET, A CASINO,

A $25-MILLION HOUSE.

GIGGY'S GOT A BETTER WARDROBE THAN I DO, FRANKLY.

IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE A PRACTICAL GROUP,

SO I THOUGHT, "WHY NOT?" YOU KNOW?

- CAMILLE, YOU SAID MOST PEOPLE WHO HAVE A LOT OF MONEY

DON'T BRAG TOO MUCH ABOUT IT.

- DO YOU THINK DANA BRAGGED TOO MUCH?

- IN THE BEGINNING, YES.

- WELL, YOU KNOW,

THEY'RE NOT, LIKE, LOW-KEY, HUMBLE CHICKS EITHER.

I MEAN, LOOK AT THEM.

- YEAH, BUT IT IS A BIT WEIRD.

I MEAN, WHEN YOU WERE SAYING THE PRICES.

I MEAN, THAT WAS A BIT WEIRD.

- WELL, I MEAN, YOUR DOG WEARS ATTIRE

FOR EVERY...EVENT,

AND THAT'S NOT WEIRD TO YOU. - 'CAUSE HE'S GOT ALOPECIA.

AND HE HAS LITTLE-- BUT IT IS A BIT WEIRD.

YOU KNOW HE'S GOT ALOPECIA.

- ACTUALLY, I LEFT HOME AT 15, OKAY.

AND I BUILT MY WHOLE LIFE AND MY COLLEGE,

AND YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW THAT ABOUT ME.

BUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER

IS I REALLY AM PROUD OF MYSELF.

AND I DO SCREAM MONEY, YOU KNOW, SO, YEAH,

I GUESS THAT'S MAYBE TACKY OF ME

BUT THAT'S...

THAT'S WHO I AM, BECAUSE OF THAT.

- WHERE'D YOU GROW UP? - I GREW UP

IN METHUEN, MASSACHUSETTS. IS ANYONE FROM THERE?

AND THEN, UM, WHEN MY MOM DIED

IN A CAR ACCIDENT,

UM, I MOVED TO NEW YORK CITY.

AND I LITERALLY WAS LIVING TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT LIVES.

MY MOM WAS POOR, MY DAD WAS RICH.

AND I LITERALLY WAS IN THE WORST SCHOOL

IN, PROBABLY, THE COUNTRY.

AND I MOVED TO NEW YORK TO LIVE WITH MY DAD.

AND I ENDED UP AT NIGHTINGALE-BAMFORD,

ONE OF THE THIRD BEST. - WOW.

- AND SO I'M TWO PEOPLE ALL THE TIME.

I'M A GUY WHO'S, LIKE, REALLY NOT FROM ANYTHING,

THAT WANTS SO BAD TO BE A PART

OF SOMETHING THAT'S SO AMAZING--

THE MONEY AND THE GLAMOUR AND ALL THIS.

AND THEN I'M ALSO A GUY WHO WAS RAISED IN IT

AND MY FACE WAS SHOVED IN IT,

BECAUSE WHEN I WENT TO SCHOOL AT NIGHTINGALE,

BELIEVE ME, I WENT WITH THE TOP PEOPLE

WITH SO MUCH MONEY.

AND THEY HAD 80 MILLION BENETTON SWEATERS

AND EVERYTHING. AND I JUST WANTED

TO BE A PART OF THAT.

- INTERESTING. - WOW, THAT EXPLAINS A LOT.

- IT DOES. - YEAH, DOESN'T IT?

- THAT'S INTERESTING.

- THANKS. - MADISON FROM GALVESTON WRITES,

"DANA, YOU MAY BE A PARTY PLANNER,

"BUT GAME NIGHT PROVED

"THAT YOU WEREN'T A GREAT HOSTESS.

"NOT ONLY DID YOU ALLOW BRANDI TO GET ATTACKED,

"YOU JOINED IN.

"ARE YOU SO DESPERATE FOR FRIENDS

THAT YOU CONDONE BULLYING IN YOUR HOUSE?"

- I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT OPINION

OF WHAT HAPPENED ON GAME NIGHT. KIM CAME TO THE DOOR.

KYLE WAS REALLY CONCERNED

ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT SHE LOOKED GOOD.

BRANDI KEPT CALLING OUT THE FACT

THAT THEY WERE GOING IN THE BATHROOM--

BEING LIKE, "OH, THEY'RE GOING IN THE BATHROOM.

BATHROOM, BATHROOM." KIND OF MAKING IT SEEM

LIKE THERE WAS DRUGS OR SOMETHING GOING ON.

SO WHEN KYLE KIND OF...

BACKLASHED A LITTLE, IT DIDN'T SURPRISE ME,

BECAUSE SHE HAD KIND OF

BEEN POKING... - ME?

- ALL EVENING. YEAH, YOU.

- PAM? - YES.

WATCH THE EPISODE. - WATCH THE EPISODE?

- YEAH. [overlapping chatter]

- I WAS THERE. I INVITED YOU

EVEN AFTER YOU SAID THAT MY FIANCE CHEATED.

SO I'M INVITING YOU INTO MY HOUSE

AFTER YOU JOKED AROUND ABOUT MY FIANCE CHEATING,

WHICH IS NOT REALLY THAT APPROPRIATE.

AND I HAD YOU THERE.

AND THEN THE LEAST YOU COULD DO IS BE A GOOD GUEST,

AND TRY TO BE NICE AND FRIENDLY AND HAPPY.

BUT YOU'RE LIKE, "OH, THERE THEY GO

"IN THE BATHROOM AGAIN.

"WONDER WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN THE BATHROOM.

WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE BATHROOM?"

SO WHEN KYLE SNAPPED IT DIDN'T SURPRISE ME.

- WE CLEARLY HAVE TWO DIFFERENT VIEWS

OF WHAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT.

- CLEARLY. - IT'S TOO BAD.

- YOLANDA FROM AUSTIN SAID, "TAYLOR, YOU'RE GOOD FRIENDS

"WITH DANA. WERE YOU SURPRISED

BY HOW SHE BRAGGED AND BROWN-NOSED?"

- YOU KNOW WHAT? SHE'S ALWAYS...

BEEN A GOOD FRIEND TO ME. - I THINK IT'S A COMPLIMENT

TO SOMEONE, TO WANT TO BE THEIR FRIEND

AND PUT THEMSELVES OUT THERE.

I WAS COMPLIMENTING KYLE AND KIM AND CAMILLE

BY SAYING, "HEY, I REALLY WANT TO BE YOUR FRIEND."

AND I PUT MYSELF OUT THERE.

I'M NEVER GOING TO BE ASHAMED FOR THAT.

AND I'LL KISS THEIR ASS ALL OVER AGAIN,

'CAUSE THAT'S WHO I AM.

- DANA, THANKS FOR LETTING US GET TO KNOW YOU

A LITTLE BIT THIS SEASON.

YOU'VE CERTAINLY BEEN VERY FUN TO HAVE AROUND.

- THANK YOU.

- UP NEXT...

- SHE SAYS, "I WANT TO SLEEP WITH YOUR HUSBAND."

- WHAT DO YOU FIND ATTRACTIVE ABOUT KEN?

- [growling] EVERYTHING.

- JOINING US NOW

ARE THREE OF THE HUNKIEST HOUSE-HUSBANDS

IN ALL OF BEVERLY HILLS.

PLEASE HELP ME WELCOME KEN... [applause]

MAURICIO... - WHOO!

- AND LAST, BUT NOT LEAST,

OUR BUDDY PAUL. [cheering, applause]

- THE SEVENTH HOUSEWIFE!

- WELCOME, GUYS.

BY THE WAY, WHILE I HAVE YOU HERE,

YOUR CONSULTATION WITH TAYLOR

ABOUT HER FACE, IN THE FRONT GATE

OF LISA'S PLACE-- - ACTUALLY, PAUL,

CAN YOU KIND OF GIVE ME A FEEL?

- DO YOU WANT TO? HOW IS HER FACE DOING?

- I'VE GAINED TEN POUNDS. WHAT DO YOU THINK?

- ACTUALLY, WHAT I WAS DOING WHEN SHE WANTED ME

TO LOOK AT HER, I WAS LOOKING AT HER CHEEKS.

BECAUSE BIG CHEEKBONES--

BUT SHE WAS VERY, VERY HOLLOW RIGHT HERE.

AND SO-- AND IF YOU GAIN WEIGHT,

SHE'S GOING TO GAIN IT RIGHT THERE.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU'RE STILL THIN.

- OKAY. - YOU STILL NEED A LITTLE MORE.

JUST THAT. - SEE YOU ON MONDAY, DOC.

- WEIGHT IS WHAT IT NEEDS, NOT FILLER.

- I GAINED 10 POUNDS.

THE PROBLEM IS I DON'T GAIN IT

IN MY BOOBS OR MY ASS OR MY FACE.

THE PROBLEM IS I JUST GAIN IT IN MY MIDSECTION.

- AND YOUR LIPS.

- AND HER BIG TOE.

- I CAN'T SEE YOU OVERWEIGHT, FOR SOME REASON.

I JUST CAN'T SEE THAT HAPPENING.

- OLIVIA FROM PASADENA, TEXAS WRITES,

"KEN, ADMITTING THAT YOU WOULD FEEL WEAK

"BY GOING TO A THERAPIST IS HONEST,

"AND IT'S YOUR OPINION,

"BUT DON'T YOU SEE HOW IT FEEDS

INTO A NEGATIVE STEREOTYPE ABOUT PEOPLE WHO GO TO THERAPY."

- YES, I DO.

OBVIOUSLY, THERAPY WORKS FOR SOME PEOPLE--

A LOT OF PEOPLE.

IT JUST DOESN'T WORK FOR ME.

I CAN'T SEE MYSELF SITTING IN A LITTLE ROOM

WITH A THERAPIST WHO I DON'T KNOW

AND TELLING HIM MY INNER SECRETS.

IT'S NOT FOR ME.

I'D RATHER SIT DOWN WITH MY WIFE,

AS I'VE DONE FOR 30 YEARS, AND TALK IT OUT.

- AND HAVE ME TELL YOU HOW IT WORKS.

- YEAH. AND THEN I DO WHAT I'M TOLD.

- AND YOU AND TAYLOR HAVE OBVIOUSLY GOTTEN PAST THAT.

- OH, YEAH. I WASN'T HAVING A GO

AT TAYLOR, AND I'VE TOLD HER THAT.

AND WE'RE...STILL FRIENDS. - HAVING A GO AT ME?

- KYLE... TOOK ME TO TASK ON IT.

AND WE'LL STILL ALL FRIENDS.

- AMBER FROM FARGO SAYS, "MAURICIO,

"DO RANDOM WOMEN STILL SEND YOU NUDE PHOTOS?

OR HAS KYLE PUT PARENTAL CONTROLS ON YOUR EMAIL ACCOUNT?"

- I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY NUDE PHOTOS THIS YEAR.

- OH, YOU WILL NOW. [laughter]

- I'M STILL WAITING FOR A COUPLE OF THEM,

BUT NOT THIS YEAR. - YOU MAY START GETTING THEM,

BECAUSE ALL THESE GUYS ARE SEXY IN THEIR OWN RIGHT,

BUT IT'S HARD TO IGNORE WHAT SOME WOULD CALL

"THE MAGIC OF MAURICIO."

EVEN PAUL CAN'T ESCAPE IT.

WATCH THIS. - OH, MY GOD.

HONEY, I'M HOME.

- MAURICIO-- MR. DEBONAIR.

MR. PROFESSIONAL GOLFER, DEEP DIVER,

TENNIS PLAYER, DOWNHILL SKIER.

WHO KNOWS WHAT OTHER THINGS ARE IN HIS FORTE.

MAURICIO, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, BUDDY.

[laughter]

- WHOO!

- OH, MY GOD!

OH, MY GOD!

- FOR SOME REASON, WHEN HE TAKES OFF THAT SHIRT,

IT JUST DOESN'T LOOK LIKE MAURICIO.

[laughter]

- YOU KNOW, HE'S NO MAURICIO.

- AMAZING.

[laughter]

- PAUL, HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE COMPARED TO MAURICIO?

- YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T COMPARE EACH OTHER.

YOU KNOW, I'M A WONDERFUL SURGEON, FOR GOD'S SAKES--

LOOK AT ME. - SASHA FROM SACRAMENTO SAID,

"MAURICIO, I SAW ONLINE THAT OUT OF ALL

"THE HOUSEWIVES SHOWS, YOU WERE VOTED

"THE NUMBER ONE HOTTEST HOUSE-HUSBAND.

DO YOU CARE TO GIVE A THANK YOU SPEECH?"

[laughter]

- I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL OF MY FANS OUT THERE.

- DING, DING, DING! - I ALWAYS SAY

MY HUSBAND WAS JUST A NICE, JEWISH BOY.

AND SINCE WE'VE DONE THIS SHOW,

HE'S TURNED INTO THIS, HOT, LATIN LOVER

ACCORDING TO THE AUDIENCE. I'M LIKE,

"WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED TO MY HUSBAND?"

- CONNOR FROM LAS VEGAS SAID,

"KEN, IN HAWAII, YOU AND BRANDI SEEMED

"TO HAVE REAL CHEMISTRY.

"IS SHE THE TYPE OF WOMAN YOU WENT FOR

BACK IN YOUR WILD DAYS?"

[laughter]

- IN MY WILD DAYS I WENT FOR ANY TYPE OF WOMAN.

- ANYBODY WHO WOULD SAY YES, OR WHO HE WAS INTRODUCED TO.

- BUT I FIND THAT WOMEN... I'M ATTRACTED TO--

[laughter] - WHAT ABOUT--

- I'M FAIRLY ATTRACTIVE TO WOMEN, BUT, UH--

- YOU'RE ATTRACTIVE TO WOMEN?

- YES, I AM. - YEAH, THEY WANT HIM.

- THEY WANT ME. - EXACTLY.

- THAT IS WHY I WOULDN'T TAKE MY SHIRT OFF--

IN CASE SHE ATTACKED ME.

- WHAT DO YOU FIND ATTRACTIVE ABOUT KEN?

- [growling] EVERYTHING. I DO.

EVERYTHING. - SHE'S VERY HONEST ABOUT THAT.

SHE SAYS, "I WANT TO SLEEP WITH YOUR HUSBAND."

THAT'S WHAT SHE SAYS.

ABSOLUTELY. - YES, ALL THE TIME.

- LOOK AT HIM. HE'S BLUSHING.

[laughter]

- CHARLOTTE FROM DAVENPORT, IOWA WRITES,

"KEN, WERE YOU DISAPPOINTED THAT KYLE PUT THE KIBOSH

ON BRANDI'S BJ PARTY?

- UM--

- HE'S TURNING RED. - I DON'T THINK

LISA WOULD HAVE GONE TO A BJ PARTY.

SHE DOESN'T NEED TO. - EXACTLY.

- THAT'S NICE. - SHE WAS THE TEACHER.

THAT'S WHY WE COULDN'T DO IT.

- BACK IN THE '70s. YOU REMEMBER THAT ONE, RIGHT?

- YEAH, I THINK SO. [laughter]

- MONIQUE FROM AUGUSTA, GEORGIA HAS A QUESTION ABOUT SEDRICK.

"KEN, DID YOU KEEP A STRAIGHT FACE

WHEN SEDRICK TOLD YOU HE WAS A LIFE COACH?"

[laughter

- UM, NO, I DIDN'T.

I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO TELL ME

HE HAD A RICH BOYFRIEND,

OR HE WAS DOING THIS OR THAT

AND SUDDENLY TO COME OUT WITH "I'M A LIFE COACH,"

I'M JUST LIKE...

I NEARLY FAINTED ON THE SPOT.

- WHY DO YOU THINK HE SHOWED UP AT SUR?

TO APOLOGIZE OR CAUSE A SCENE, OR WHAT?

- YOU NEVER KNOW WITH SEDRICK.

HE PROBABLY TURNED UP FOR ATTENTION--

JUST TO GET ON CAMERA. - I THINK, YEAH,

TO GET ON CAMERA, AND IT WOULD PERPETUATE IT,

SO THAT WOULD GIVE HIM ANOTHER CHANCE TO TELL ANOTHER STORY.

I MEAN, IT'S BEEN ENDLESS, THE AMOUNT OF KIND OF ABUSE

WE'VE TAKEN IN THE PRESS FROM HIM.

BUT I'VE NEVER HIT BACK, BECAUSE IT'S POINTLESS.

- LAURIE FROM ESSEX, VERMONT SAID

"MAURICIO, HOW'S YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH KIM NOW?

DID SHE EVER APOLOGIZE TO YOU?"

- WELL, MY RELATIONSHIP WITH KIM,

RIGHT NOW, IS IN LIMBO.

A FORMAL APOLOGY HASN'T OCCURRED.

I WOULD ASSUME THAT ONCE KIM IS ALL GOOD,

THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE A SIT-DOWN CONVERSATION.

AND I REALLY HOPE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO WORK IT OUT,

BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT FUN HAVING A FEUD WITH A FAMILY MEMBER

OR HAVING ANY ISSUES WITH A FAMILY MEMBER.

SO I REALLY DO HOPE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO WORK THAT OUT.

- VERY GOOD. WELL, MAURICIO, KEN AND PAUL,

THANKS FOR SPENDING SOME TIME WITH US.

IT'S BEEN A GREAT TREAT.

THERE'S MORE AFTER THIS.

TONIGHT, KIM RICHARDS COMES CLEAN.

- I DRANK AND THEN I HAD GUILT AND SHAME.

AND THEN I DRANK TO COVER THE GUILT AND SHAME.

- WELL, KIM FINISHED HER STAY IN REHAB

JUST ONE DAY AFTER WE TAPED THE REUNION.

AND SHE JOINS US NOW.

- ARE YOU READY? - HI,

COME ON IN. - READY? ALL RIGHT, I WILL.

CHECK 'EM OUT, CHECK 'EM OUT. - WOW, YOU LOOK GREAT.

- OH, THANK YOU. - HI.

- HOW ARE YOU? YOU LOOK GREAT.

- SO HAPPY TO SEE YOU. COME ON IN.

SO HAPPY YOU'RE HERE. - I'M SO HAPPY TO BE HERE.

- I BET. - YEAH.

- ABSOLUTELY. - YEAH.

- YOU LOOK HEALTHY.

- REALLY? - YEAH, YOU DO.

- I'VE BEEN TAKING CARE OF MYSELF.

- YOU FEEL HEALTHY? - I DO.

- YEAH? - I DO.

HAPPY TO BE HOME AND, UH...

I FEEL GOOD.

- WHEN I SPOKE TO KYLE, SHE DIDN'T WANT TO SAY

WHAT YOU HAD GONE TO REHAB FOR.

SHE SAID, "THIS IS REALLY FOR KIM TO SAY."

CAN YOU TELL US WHAT YOU SOUGHT TREATMENT FOR?

- YEAH.

I'M AN ALCOHOLIC.

AND I DRINK.

I DRINK.

- HOW LONG HAS THIS BEEN A PROBLEM FOR YOU?

- IT'S BEEN A PROBLEM LONG ENOUGH

THAT I CAN SAY THAT I'VE STRUGGLED WITH IT,

AND I'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR A WHILE.

I HAD SO MUCH GUILT AND SHAME

FROM MY BEHAVIOR AND WHAT I DID.

AND THEN I DRANK TO COVER THE GUILT AND SHAME

TO MAKE IT GO AWAY.

SO IT IS A VICIOUS CYCLE.

- YOU'VE SOUGHT TREATMENT FOR THIS BEFORE.

- MM-HMM. - HOW MANY TIMES

HAVE YOU BEEN THROUGH REHAB?

- THREE. - THREE TIMES.

WHAT WAS IT ABOUT THE FIRST TWO

THAT DIDN'T TAKE, DO YOU THINK?

- I THINK THAT...

I WASN'T READY MAYBE? I WASN'T READY.

I THOUGHT I WAS. - WHAT IS IT ABOUT THIS ONE

THAT MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.

- I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S-- ONE--THAT I'M READY,

AND OR--TWO-- THIS IS JUST...

THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE FOR ME, WHERE I WENT.

I AM A PERSON THAT HAS DONE IT AND RELAPSED AND DONE IT.

AT LEAST I'M TRYING. I'M REALLY TRYING.

SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T BLAME PEOPLE FOR LOOKING AND GOING,

"OH, ANOTHER? WHAT IS THIS GIRL--"

WELL, AT LEAST I'M NOT THERE-- I'M TRYING, YOU KNOW,

AND I'M DOING IT RIGHT NOW.

AND I FEEL CONFIDENT IN THIS A LOT.

- WAS THERE A FAMILY INTERVENTION?

- IT WAS, LIKE, THE DAY AFTER THANKSGIVING.

AND MY DAUGHTER KIND OF WENT

TO THE OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS AND JUST SAID,

"I THINK MOM SHOULD GO AWAY OR SOMETHING."

BUT I ALREADY DECIDED THAT I WANTED TO GO.

MY BEHAVIOR-- FROM THE MEDICATION

OR WHATEVER-- I JUST FELT OFF.

- ANXIETY MEDICATION? - MM-HMM.

I JUST DIDN'T LIKE ME ANYMORE,

AND...

I-I COULDN'T LOOK AT MYSELF IN THE MIRROR ANYMORE.

- DO YOU STILL SUFFER FROM HIGH ANXIETY

WHEN YOU ARE SOBER? - OH, YEAH.

- YOU DO? - YEAH.

YOU KNOW, I'M ON MY MEDICATION.

AND IF I DON'T TAKE IT PROPERLY,

YEAH, IT CAN BE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

- IT'S WITHIN YOUR PROGRAM, THOUGH,

TO BE ON THESE MEDICATIONS?

- ACTUALLY, IT'S FROM-- YEAH.

IT WAS FROM THE TREATMENT CENTER--THEY PUT ME ON IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN I CAME OUT, I THOUGHT,

"YOU KNOW WHAT? I DON'T NEED THIS ONE

OR THAT ONE." THAT'S JUST STUPID.

I TOOK MYSELF OFF A COUPLE AND IT HAD A HORRIBLE SIDE-EFFECT.

- SO WHILE THE SHOW WAS IN PRODUCTION,

YOU WERE DRINKING.

- WHEN I FIRST STARTED THE SEASON,

I WAS STILL NOT DRINKING.

YOU COULD EVEN SEE MY CONFIDENCE LEVEL,

AND HOW STRONG AND POWERFUL I CAME IN.

- WELL, LET ME TALK ABOUT THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON.

BECAUSE IN COLORADO,

YOU WERE REALLY THE VOICE OF REASON WITH TAYLOR.

YOU WERE SAYING, "SHE'S FALLING APART," SO--

- I WAS SOBER.

- AND I'M SO TERRIFIED OF GOING BACK TO THAT.

- YOU'RE SMART, GIRL.

AND YOU HAVE GREAT OPPORTUNITIES.

YOU NEED TO CHANGE THAT INSIDE, AND SAY, "YOU KNOW WHAT?

- I'M TRYING.

- "NOTHING'S GOING TO BRING ME DOWN."

AND THEN YOU COULD SEE, JUST FROM MY BEHAVIOR,

WHERE I LOST MY CONFIDENCE

AND STARTED DRINKING A LITTLE BIT.

LOOK WHO'S HERE.

I CAN--I'M NOT THAT GREAT OF A SKIER, BUT--

I COULDN'T WATCH THE SHOW AFTER I SAW THAT BEHAVIOR

COMING OUT OF MYSELF, 'CAUSE I WAS SO DISAPPOINTED

IN MY CHOICE-- WHAT I'D DONE.

- WATCHING THIS SEASON, IT SEEMED LIKE YOU WERE

EITHER PERENNIALLY LATE OR ABSENT ENTIRELY.

WAS THIS A RESULT OF YOUR SUBSTANCE ABUSE?

- UM...

MOST LIKELY, YEAH, THAT'S A BIG SIGN

OF SOMEBODY THAT'S USING. - RIGHT.

SO AT THE NIGHT OF BEAUTY,

YOU DESCRIBED TO PAUL

A LIST OF MEDICATIONS THAT YOU WERE ON.

- I'M ON TRAZODONE, TOPAMAX,

AND I JUST STARTED LEXAPRO.

- WHAT WERE YOU BEING TREATED FOR THEN?

- SEVERE ANXIETY AND PANIC DISORDER.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS BEING TREATED FOR.

- DO YOU THINK THAT THOSE PILLS AFFECTED YOUR BEHAVIOR ALSO?

OR DO YOU THINK IT WAS MAINLY ALCOHOL?

- IT WAS PROBABLY WHEN I MIXED THE ALCOHOL WITH THOSE.

LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, THE GAME NIGHT--

THAT WAS STRICTLY THE MEDICATION THE DOCTOR GAVE ME.

I'M LOSING MY BALANCE, I CAN'T--

I LOOK AT PEOPLE, I SEE--I CAN'T HEAR.

- BRANDI ACCUSED YOU, AT GAME NIGHT,

OF BEING ON CRYSTAL METH. - YES, SHE DID.

- WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH YOU?

- I JUST LEFT A 2 1/2-HOUR DOCTOR SESSION.

FINALLY, HE GAVE ME SOME MEDICATION IN HIS OFFICE.

AND WHEN I WALKED IN, I TOLD EVERYBODY,

"BY THE WAY, I DON'T FEEL RIGHT.

I JUST LEFT THE DOCTOR AND I TOOK SOME MEDICATION."

AND MY SISTER KYLE WAS LIKE, "OH, KIM."

EVEN SHE SAID, "YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN THAT RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S A BEDTIME MEDICATION."

- THOUGH SHE APOLOGIZED FOR THE ACCUSATION,

BRANDI THINKS MAYBE IT HELPED YOU,

SINCE IT BROUGHT THE TOPIC OUT IN THE OPEN.

- MAYBE I HELPED YOU.

- I ALSO THINK-- - I'M SERIOUS.

MAYBE IT GOT IT OUT THERE THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM,

AND THEN EVERYONE HAD TO ADDRESS IT.

- NO OFFENSE, BUT IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU.

- I THINK WHAT BRANDI HAS CAUSED,

FOR MY FAMILY AND MYSELF,

HAS NOT BEEN HELPFUL AT ALL.

- DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU OWE BRANDI AN APOLOGY?

- I GUESS I OWE HER AN APOLOGY

FOR HIDING HER CRUTCHES. YES, I DO.

- DO YOU FEEL LIKE SHE OWES YOU AN APOLOGY?

- IF I PUT IT ALL OUT THERE,

SHE OWES ME ONE AND I OWE HER ONE.

THE DIFFERENCE IS I OWE HER ONE

FOR MOVING HER CRUTCHES,

AND SHE OWES ME ONE FOR, BASICALLY,

HURTING ALL THE PEOPLE I LOVE.

- HOW DID SHE HURT YOU?

- ONE DAUGHTER JUST CRIED AND THE OTHER ONE TOLD ME,

"YOU DON'T KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO WALK DOWN THE STREET."

SO IT'S JUST WHAT SHE DID WAS JUST HORRIBLE,

HONESTLY, IN MY OPINION.

- WELL, REBECCA FROM HOUSTON WANTED TO KNOW,

"KIM, WILL YOU FINALLY FORGIVE BRANDI FOR HER COMMENTS,

OR AT LEAST ACT CIVIL TOWARDS HER?"

- I WILL NEVER FORGET BRANDI--

FORGIVE HER FOR HER COMMENTS OR FORGET IT, NO.

BECAUSE THEY WERE JUST TOO DETRIMENTAL TO MY FAMILY.

WILL I EVER BE CIVIL TO HER?

ABSOLUTELY.

I WON'T EVER WALK THROUGH A ROOM AND NOT ACKNOWLEDGE HER.

- BUT YOU WILL NEVER FORGIVE HER.

- I WON'T. - YOUR BEHAVIOR ON THE SHOW

WAS REALLY PUZZLING AT TIMES. - YOU THINK?

- BOTH TO THE VIEWERS AND TO THE OTHER WOMEN.

- WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? - [laughs]

- WHY ARE YOU GOING TO THIS PLACE, ANDY?

I'M JUST CONFUSED WHY YOU'RE GOING THERE.

- AND SPECIFICALLY AT SUR, ON THE OPENING NIGHT,

WE GOT AN OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF EMAILS FROM VIEWERS.

HAVE YOU SEEN THAT EPISODE? - NO.

- NO? WHY NOT?

- WELL, AS I SAID, I STOPPED WATCHING

RIGHT AFTER I SAW TOO MUCH OF, LIKE,

JUST BEHAVIOR THAT WASN'T ME.

IT WASN'T ME.

- I HAVE CLIPS OF THAT SUR EPISODE HERE.

DO YOU WANT TO SEE ANY?

IT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU.

- OH, ALL RIGHT.

- YES? - YEAH.

- UP NEXT...

HOW STRESSFUL WAS IT FOR YOU,

BEING ON THIS SHOW WITH YOUR SISTER?

- SHE BEING EXPOSED WAS DIFFICULT.

- I HAVE CLIPS OF THAT SUR EPISODE HERE.

DO YOU WANT TO SEE ANY?

IT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU.

- OH, ALL RIGHT.

- YES?

- YEAH. - OKAY.

[toothbrush buzzes]

- A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.

- WHY DO YOU HAVE ALL THAT STUFF IN YOUR HANDS?

JESUS CHRIST.

[clunking] HERE, JUST GIVE IT TO ME

IN THE TOWEL-- THROW IT IN.

- PUT IT IN THAT SHOPPING BAG. - JUST THROW IT IN.

- [sighs] - LET'S GO.

OUT, OUT. COME ON.

KIM. COME ON, BABE. - HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

- I LOVE THE BUTTONS.

OOH, WHAT'S ALL THIS?

- WHAT DO YOU--

- OH, MY GOD. - WHAT IS ALL THAT?

- [strong exhale] - LOOKS LIKE GARBAGE.

IT'S A GARBAGE CONTAINER. - UM...

WELL, IT'S... - YEAH, I GET IT.

I GET IT. - NOT MY GARBAGE.

- IT'S GARBAGE.

- THAT'S-- - THAT'S FULL OF CRAP.

I SEE IT FROM-- - EW!

IS THAT, LIKE, POOP?

I THINK I SHOULD TAKE THE BRA OFF.

- NO. - YES.

ALL RIGHT THAT'S ENOUGH. - OKAY.

WHAT'S IT LIKE TO SEE THAT NOW?

- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HECK'S GOING ON THERE.

I FELT BAD FOR HER...

YOU KNOW.

IT'S JUST SAD.

AND I REALLY JUST COULDN'T WATCH,

I COULDN'T BARE TO SEE-- IT WASN'T ME.

I DIDN'T HEAR-- THE VOICE WASN'T MINE,

THE MANNERISMS WEREN'T MINE.

- YOU DIDN'T RECOGNIZE YOURSELF.

- NO. NOTHING ABOUT THAT PERSON WAS ME.

- I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT KEN A LITTLE BIT.

ARE YOU STILL TOGETHER?

- NO. - NO?

- I WISH HIM THE BEST, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM

SINCE I'VE BEEN BACK. - DID YOU MOVE OUT?

- YES, I DID. - AND WHERE ARE YOU LIVING NOW?

- I'M IN A HOTEL,

AND I'M GETTING READY TO MOVE OVER THE WEEKEND.

LAURIE FROM ARCADIA, CALIFORNIA EMAILED

AND WANTS TO KNOW, "KIM, CONSIDERING

"HOW EVERYTHING TURNED OUT,

"DO YOU THINK KYLE WAS RIGHT

ABOUT HOW KEN WASN'T THE RIGHT MAN FOR YOU?"

- YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LOVE SOMEONE AND NOT BE ABLE

TO LIVE WITH THEM.

SO I THINK THAT WAS IT.

I WON'T SAY KYLE'S RIGHT IN THIS--

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY IT. - WILL YOU EVER SAY

KYLE'S RIGHT? - YES, I DO.

- HOW IS YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR KIDS THESE DAYS?

- UH, MY RELATIONSHIP WITH MY KIDS RIGHT NOW

IS AWESOME, AWESOME.

- HOW HAS IT CHANGED

FROM WHAT IT WAS THREE MONTHS AGO?

- OH, IT'S CHANGED A LOT.

ACTUALLY, IT'S CHANGED-- I THINK THAT, UM,

I THINK THAT THEY COULDN'T BEAR TO BE AROUND

AND SEE WHERE I WAS AT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S HURTFUL TO SEE SOMEBODY YOU LOVE

DOWN AND OUT.

SO, UM...MY KIDS, BASICALLY,

JUST STOPPED COMING OVER TO MY HOUSE.

THEY STOPPED TALKING TO ME A LOT.

ALMOST...

ANYWAY...

SINCE I GOT SOBER...

MY KIDS...

EVERY NIGHT NOW, IT'S LIKE IF THEY'RE NOT WITH ME,

THEY'RE SENDING ME TEXTS. "I LOVE YOU, MOMMY.

I LOVE YOU SO MUCH, MOMMY."

AND I'M SO GRATEFUL.

- I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT KYLE.

- OH, RIGHT.

HEH! OH, HER.

- WELL, KIM, YOU AND YOUR SISTER KYLE

HAVE A VERY INTERESTING RELATIONSHIP.

- YEP. - LOVING...

INTENSE, SOMETIMES A LOT OF FRICTION.

BUT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ULTIMATELY COME TOGETHER.

AND KYLE IS HERE WITH US. KYLE?

- HI. - HELLO.

- HOW ARE YOU? - HAVE A SEAT.

both: MWAH!

- HI, ANDY. [kisses]

- JOIN US.

- [sighs]

- WHEN YOU LOOK AT KIM NOW,

VERSUS WHEN YOU SAW HER, SAY,

AT SUR THAT NIGHT,

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?

- THIS IS THE REAL KIM.

THIS IS THE KIM THAT I GREW UP WITH

AND THAT I LOVE.

AND THAT WAS A DIFFERENT KIM.

- [chuckles]

- YOU WERE THE PERSON WHO FIRST SUGGESTED

KIM BE ON THE REAL HOUSEWIVES OF BEVERLY HILLS.

- MM-HMM. - IS THAT A DECISION

THAT YOU REGRET?

- I DON'T-- NO, I DON'T.

BECAUSE A LOT OF WHAT HAPPENED IN SEASON ONE

BETWEEN THE TWO OF US WAS--

IT WAS A VERY PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE RELATIONSHIP GOING ON WITH US.

AND I THINK THAT WE HAD BUILT UP

SO MUCH ANIMOSITY.

I WAS ANGRY WITH KIM,

AND OBVIOUSLY SHE WAS ANGRY WITH ME TOO.

SO I THINK, IN THE LONG RUN,

IT COULD HAVE HELPED OUR RELATIONSHIP.

- AND KYLE SEEMS TO HAVE A REAL THING

ABOUT THE BACK OF LIMOUSINES. SO EITHER TAYLOR,

ME-- LET ME TELL YOU--

- A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON. - THIS IS A LOT OF--YEAH--

YEAH, SHE JUST LIKES THE LIMOUSINE THING.

BUT, UM, HONESTLY, I THINK THAT

IT REALLY BROUGHT SO MUCH-- THAT WAS LIKE THIS HUGE--

JUST RELEASE OF INFORMATION THAT WE BOTH HAD IN OUR HEADS,

THAT WAS JUST KIND OF BLURTED OUT.

- WELL, HOW DO YOU FEEL NOW ABOUT...

THE FACT THAT YOU BROUGHT UP KIM'S ALCOHOLISM?

- I STILL FEEL BAD ABOUT THAT.

- HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT IT?

- I STILL FEEL REALLY BAD ABOUT IT.

I JUST STILL FEEL THERE WAS A BETTER WAY TO DO THAT.

- AFTER THAT ACCUSATION WAS MADE IN THE LIMO,

THEN WE ALL GOT TOGETHER AT THE REUNION LAST YEAR,

AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU STILL WERE

ABSOLUTELY UNCOMFORTABLE DISCUSSING.

WHY THE DIFFERENCE NOW VERSUS AT THAT POINT,

AT THAT LAST REUNION?

- I THINK THAT-- AS I SAID TO YOU EARLIER--

THAT THERE'S THAT TIME OF

GUILT, SHAME, EMBARRASSMENT.

AND THE FIGHT--I JUST COULDN'T BEAR TO TALK ABOUT.

WAY TOO PAINFUL.

AND WE WERE JUST KIND OF SITTING IN THE SAME ROOM

FOR THE FIRST TIME.

AND I-- - I THINK TOO,

THAT, UM, THE WAY WE WERE RAISED

WAS, YOU KNOW, TO KEEP THINGS MORE PRIVATE.

AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED OUT THERE

FOR MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO SEE.

IT WASN'T ANYBODY'S BUSINESS.

- I HAVE HAD TIME TO SIT ON THAT.

AND, I'M NOT HERE TO DISCUSS MY ARGUMENT WITH KYLE.

THAT'S PRIVATE.

BUT I AM HERE TO SAY I'M AN ALCOHOLIC.

THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. - AND WHAT'S IT LIKE FOR YOU,

HEARING YOUR SISTER SAY THOSE WORDS

IN FRONT OF CAMERAS?

- IT'S A BIG RELIEF.

BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S PART OF HER ROAD TO RECOVERY,

IS BEING HONEST, SO WHEN I HEAR HER TALK

LIKE THAT, I KNOW THAT SHE'S ON THE RIGHT PATH.

- HOW STRESSFUL WAS IT FOR YOU...

BEING ON THIS SHOW WITH YOUR SISTER,

KNOWING PRIVATELY WHAT SHE WAS GOING THROUGH?

- SHE WAS BEING EXPOSED.

AND IT WAS-- IT WAS DIFFICULT.

BECAUSE, UM, I STILL HAD A LOT OF ANGER,

AND I ALSO WAS TRYING TO PROTECT HER

AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT

TO SET THINGS OFF TO MAKE HER WORSE.

A LOT OF WHAT HAPPENED ON GAME NIGHT,

TO BE HONEST, I HAD A LOT OF...

NERVOUS TENSION EVERY TIME I WAS AROUND HER--

WORRIED AND ALSO PROTECTIVE AT THE SAME TIME.

- DID YOU THEN RESENT HER

FOR TRYING TO MAYBE OVERPROTECT YOU?

- I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT I WAS ANGRY AT.

AND I DON'T FEEL--

I THINK THAT PART I LOVED, YOU KNOW.

IT'S JUST WHEN SHE GOES GETTING IN ALL MY BUSINESS--

WHEN SHE STARTS, YOU KNOW, GETTING ALL ENTWINED.

- WELL, I'M CLOSE. WE'RE ALL CLOSE

WITH EACH OTHER'S CHILDREN.

ALL OF OUR CHILDREN ARE-- - RIGHT.

YOU THINK YOU'RE THE MOTHER TO MY FOUR.

- YEAH, AND YOU THINK THAT YOU'RE THE MOM TO MINE TOO.

- OKAY, WAIT, OKAY.

- KIM, THE MOST NOTORIOUS EXAMPLE OF YOU BEING LATE

WAS HAWAII.

WHAT WAS REALLY GOING ON THERE? - WHEN I FOUND OUT

THAT YOU COULDN'T USE AN UN-VALID DRIVER'S LICENSE

AND YOU CAN USE A PASSPORT.

WELL, I HAD JUST MOVED. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

SO I COULDN'T FIND MY PASSPORT IN THE MOVE.

- KYLE, IT'S AN EXPIRED DRIVER'S LICENSE

AND I'M TRYING TO FIND MY PASSPORT NOW.

THERE'S NOTHING ELSE I CAN DO.

I'VE HAD A BAD-- - WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

YOU DON'T HAVE AN ID TO GET ON THE PLANE?

I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU FIXED THAT,

'CAUSE I ASKED YOU TO GO TO THE DMV WITH ME

AND YOU SAID, NO, YOU ALREADY FIXED THAT.

- WELL, I LIED TO YOU.

- YOU'VE TOLD ME ALREADY THAT BY THAT POINT

YOUR SOBRIETY HAD GOTTEN AWAY FROM YOU.

- MM-HMM.

- SO WOULD YOU PUT THIS IN THAT BUCKET, OR...

- I WOULD, I WOULD.

BECAUSE EITHER WAY,

WHETHER I HAD BEEN DRINKING THAT DAY OR NOT,

MY BEHAVIOR WAS THAT OF AN ALCOHOLIC.

- ONCE KIM ARRIVED IN HAWAII,

SHE WANTED YOU TO LET IT ALL GO.

AND YOU COULDN'T.

- I COULD NOT.

- WHY ARE YOU SO WORRIED ABOUT ME? ENJOY YOURSELF.

AND YOU'RE NOT ENJOYING YOUR OWN LIVES.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO BACK TO YESTERDAY--

WHY--WHATEVER. WE'RE HERE. SO--

- WELL, IT'S [bleep]. - IT'S NOT [bleep].

- IT IS [bleep]. - OKAY, WELL IT'S [bleep].

- YOU GUYS--

- BECAUSE WE'D ALL BEEN DISCUSSING IT.

IT WASN'T LIKE THE GIRLS DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON.

WE WERE ALL TOGETHER. THEY WERE THERE

FOR THE PHONE CONVERSATIONS AND AT THE AIRPORT WITH ME.

SO WHEN SHE WALKED IN, I EXPECTED HER TO SAY SOMETHING.

- WELL, HONESTLY, KYLE, WHAT DID YOU EXPECT?

WE ALREADY MISSED IT.

I ALREADY SAID TO YOU "I'M SORRY,"

AND YOU KNEW HOW STRESSED OUT I WAS.

- TRAVELING, FLYING ALL TOGETHER

IS PART OF THE FUN. YOU KNOW,

GOING TOGETHER AND THEN THE FIRST NIGHT THERE,

AND OUR DINNER, AND WAKING UP

AND HAVING BREAKFAST-- EVERYONE TOGETHER.

SHE WAS MISSING A BIG PART OF OUR TRIP.

- AND I'M SORRY FOR MISSING THE FLIGHT.

I'M SORRY FOR NOT BEING THERE.

OKAY, I'M SORRY. SO--

- BUT WHAT SHE WAS MISSING IN ALL THAT, WAS THAT

I WANTED HER THERE. - NO, I GOT THAT.

- OKAY. - I DID.

- JUST MAKING SURE YOU KNEW. - YOU TWO HAVE BEEN THROUGH

SUCH A RIDE ON THIS SHOW TOGETHER.

- YOU CAN'T HELP IT WITH HER AS A SISTER.

JUST JOKING. - I'M HERE RIGHT NOW

TO LOVE YOU AND BE SUPPORTIVE OF YOU.

I'M NOT HERE TO ARGUE WITH YOU. - I'M JUST JOKING.

- I'M REALLY NOT. - JUST THINK IT'S FUN TO--

- OKAY, WELL, YOU PUT ME THROUGH A LOT.

[overlapping chatter]

- YOU PUT ME THROUGH EQUAL. - I'M JUST CURIOUS.

WHEN YOU SAY THAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK SHE'S PUT YOU THROUGH?

UP NEXT... - I WENT TO GO GIVE HER A HUG,

AND IT WAS LIKE...

I COULD ALREADY FEEL A VERY DIFFERENT KIM.

- NOW AT SUR, YOU TOLD KYLE

THAT YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE A BABY.

- I SAID--NO, I DIDN'T SAY I WAS GOING--

WELL, I ACTUALLY DID SAY I WAS GOING--

- I JUST CAN'T EVEN START WITH THAT.

- I WAS PRETTY SURE-- I WAS THREE MONTHS BEHIND.

AND SO, UM...

I THOUGHT MAYBE I MIGHT BE.

AND THEN I JOKED THEN, BECAUSE I STILL DIDN'T KNOW.

"I'M GOING TO HAVE A BABY." BUT I WAS JUST JOKING WITH HER.

- YOU DIDN'T SEEM LIKE YOU WERE JOKING, ON THE SHOW.

- I'M GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER BABY.

- WHY DON'T YOU TAKE A [bleep] TEST.

- I'M TOO SCARED.

YEAH. I WAS LATE, SO--

BUT I WAS WRONG.

- YOU WERE-- - SHUT UP. STOP IT.

- GOD, YOU'RE SO RIDICULOUS. - THANK GOD.

- I'M JUST CURIOUS. WHEN YOU SAY THAT,

WHAT DO YOU THINK SHE'S PUT YOU THROUGH?

- THAT'S SOMETHING I DON'T WANT TO SAY.

OBVIOUSLY SHE'S ADMITTED AND TALKED ABOUT HER ISSUES.

THAT AFFECTS FAMILIES.

ANYBODY WHO LIVES WITH A FAMILY MEMBER

THAT THEY LOVE WHO'S AN ALCOHOLIC

KNOWS THAT THEY'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT.

AND IT'S VERY PAINFUL FOR THE PEOPLE AROUND THEM.

AND THEN I BECOME ANGRY

AND I ACT DIFFERENTLY TOWARD HER.

AND THEN SHE'S MAD AT ME FOR THE WAY I'M ACTING,

BUT I CAN'T HELP IT.

- DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE'S SAYING?

- YEAH, BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH IT ON FAMILY WEEK.

IT'S LIKE, I DRINK AND THEN SHE'S ANGRY

AND TREATS ME-- AND I TREAT HER--

MAYBE I DO THINGS THAT AREN'T RIGHT

AND SHE'S UPSET.

THEN SHE TREATS ME MEAN,

'CAUSE SHE'S MAD. - IT'S A VICIOUS CYCLE.

- AND THEN I GET MEAN. THEN I'M ANGRY, HURT OR MAD.

AND THE THING IS SOMETIMES, AS AN ALCOHOLIC,

WHEN I TREAT HER A CERTAIN WAY,

I DON'T REMEMBER, SOMETIMES, EVERYTHING I SAID OR DID.

HER ANGER IS STILL THERE, SO SHE'LL BE MEAN TO ME.

AND I'M SOBER THE NEXT DAY

AND I JUST DON'T GET WHY SHE'S MAD.

AND SO IT'S A VICIOUS CIRCLE AGAIN.

IT'S ANOTHER VICIOUS CIRCLE.

- WHAT IS IT ABOUT NOW AND THIS TIME

THAT MAKES YOU FEEL LIKE...

HER SOBRIETY IS GOING TO STICK?

- BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T GO TO GET HELP KICKING AND SCREAMING.

UM, WHEN WE SAT DOWN WITH HER,

SHE...WANTED TO GO, CALMLY.

AND SHE WAS VERY POSITIVE WHEN SHE HUGGED ME GOOD-BYE.

I THINK THAT...

[sobbing] I THINK THAT BOTH OF-- I WAS SO ANGRY WITH HER

FOR SO LONG.

AND SHE WAS ANGRY WITH ME IN RETURN

FOR BEING ANGRY WITH HER.

AND THEN WHEN SHE LEFT THAT DAY...

I WENT TO GO GIVE HER A HUG, AND IT WAS LIKE...

I COULD ALREADY FEEL A VERY DIFFERENT KIM.

IT WAS LIKE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PERSON,

IT WAS, LIKE, NOT HUGGING HER

WITH ANGER INSIDE ANYMORE.

IT'S LIKE WE HUGGED EACH OTHER, WE HELD EACH OTHER

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN YEARS--YEARS--

AND I COULD TELL THAT SHE WAS JUST IN A DIFFERENT MIND-SET.

[sighs] WHEN I WENT TO VISIT HER,

I COULD JUST SEE SHE WAS SERIOUS.

SHE WAS TAKING IT VERY SERIOUSLY.

AND SHE WANTED TO BE THERE,

AND SHE WAS DOING EVERYTHING SHE HAD TO DO.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT WAS LIKE...

THIS KIM THAT I HAD BEEN SO ANGRY WITH WAS GONE,

AND THE SISTER THAT...

I GREW UP WITH-- LAUGHING AND, YOU KNOW,

PLAYING WITH-- WAS ALL OF A SUDDEN BACK.

WE COULD LAUGH AND HAVE FUN AGAIN.

WHICH WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO FOR A LONG TIME.

- WHAT'S YOUR REACTION THEN?

- IT FEELS REALLY GOOD.

IT'S WEIRD, BECAUSE AS GOOD AS IT FEELS,

IT FEELS OVERWHELMING.

AND WHEN SHE TALKS ABOUT THE HUGS--

I FELT SOMETHING REALLY DIFFERENT AS WELL.

AND THAT'S WHY...

I JUST REALLY WANT THIS--

SO THAT YOU KNOW.

I'LL OWN MY STUFF,

BUT THE SOBRIETY'S MINE.

AND I'LL WORK REALLY HARD FOR IT, EVERY DAY.

- THE OTHER DAY, UM, KIM SAID SOMETHING TO ME.

SHE SAID, UM,

"I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I'M BACK,

"AND I'M REALLY HAPPY TO BE YOUR BIG SISTER AGAIN,

"'CAUSE I KNOW YOU NEED SOMEONE

"TO LOOK OUT FOR YOU SOMETIMES TOO,

AND I'M HERE AGAIN."

SO...THAT FELT GOOD.

- WHAT A GREAT WAY TO END THE SEASON--

WITH YOU BACK AND LOOKING TOWARDS YOUR FUTURE.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, KIM.

- THANK YOU. - AND GREAT TO SEE YOU, KYLE.

- THANK YOU. both: THANKS, ANDY.

- YOU ALWAYS DO THAT. - DITTO. [laughs]

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