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♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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I started out making a film
about the New York disco scene
in the '70s.
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And I discovered this sort
of genius at the center
of it all.
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Whether it was disco,
the Bee Gees,
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Saturday Night Fever,
you name it,
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Robert Stigwood's fingerprints
are all over it.
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He was the Wizard of Oz
of the 1970s.
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♪ (“BOOGIE OOGIE OOGIE”
BY A TASTE OF HONEY PLAYING) ♪
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KEVIN MCCORMICK: I moved back
to New York in late '75,
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beginning of '76.
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I had gotten a job to work
for RSO,
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the Robert Stigwood
Organization.
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Robert at that point
was in the music business,
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and other than the Bee Gees,
I really didn't know that much.
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I knew he had Eric Clapton
he was managing...
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and it was just at a moment
where he was transitioning
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into producing movies.
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I'm like, in my early twenties,
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and I'm head of development
and production.
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And one of the first things
Robert had done,
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when he set up the new company,
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was sign John Travolta
to a three-picture deal.
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But we didn't have any pictures
to support it,
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so I said to Robert,
"What do I do now?"
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And he said, "Well, you go out
and buy projects."
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♪ If you're thinkin'
You're too cool to boogie ♪
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KEVIN: In '75, '76, in New York,
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there was a very cool
disco culture.
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You know, music was happening
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and people were coming out
to do something
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that you weren't allowed to do
in any other environment.
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♪ ...'Cause we're gonna
Boogie oogie oogie ♪
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♪ 'Till you just can't boogie
No more ♪
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♪ Ah, boogie
Boogie no more... ♪
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KEVIN:
And as I'm looking for stories,
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I met this sort of cutting-edge
rock 'n' roll journalist
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called Nik Cohn.
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Nik had this particular insight
about music, and about people,
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and nocturnal explorations
of Manhattan and the boroughs.
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♪ 'Cause we're gonna
Boogie oogie oogie... ♪
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KEVIN: And he'd written
a New York Magazine article
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called "Tribal Rites
of the New Saturday Night."
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♪ Boogie no more... ♪
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KEVIN:
It was an incredible story
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about a kid growing up
in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn,
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and the part of his life
that comes alive
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with his dreams,
which is on the dance floor.
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For me,
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what made it stand out was
I totally got this character.
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He was like somebody
that I could have known
growing up.
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There were a lot of kids
I'd gone to school with who,
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what they lived for
was Saturday night,
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and how they looked,
and how they danced,
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and how other people thought
about them.
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♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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FREDDIE GERSHON: I don't know
if Robert actually just read
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the story, or if Kevin said,
"You ought to read this,"
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but Robert's the one
who called me.
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It was 4th of July weekend,
I believe.
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It was like two weeks
after the article had come out.
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And I said, "It was fascinating,
wasn't it?"
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And he said,
"Yes, it was fascinating."
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"Do you see what I see?"
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I said, "I don't know
what you see."
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He said, "This is
a hundred-million-dollar movie."
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KEVIN: When we got the article,
Robert's first thought was,
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"This could be
John's first picture."
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And we sent it on to John,
and John said, "I'm in."
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♪ (“STAYIN' ALIVE”
BY THE BEE GEES PLAYING) ♪
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♪ Well, you can tell
By the way I use my walk ♪
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♪ I'm a woman's man
No time to talk... ♪
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NIK COHN: If anybody else
had bought
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that little magazine story
I had written,
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any other producer, Fever would
not have happened.
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We wouldn't be talking
about it now.
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♪ We can try to understand ♪
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♪ The New York Times' effect
On man... ♪
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NIK: When they bought
that story, Robert said to me,
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"I smell something real here."
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He existed by sense of smell.
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To say he had a wonderful
sense of smell.
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You just get the sense of,
you know, you put that there,
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and that there, and that there,
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and they might work together.
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♪ (“THE KIDS ARE ALRIGHT”
BY THE WHO PLAYING) ♪
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♪ I don't mind other guys
Dancing with my girl ♪
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♪ That's fine, I know them
All pretty well ♪
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♪ But I know sometimes... ♪
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REPORTER:
In the last five years,
Robert Stigwood,
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a diffident, awkward Australian
who shambled into a fortune
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on the other side of the world,
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has become the entertainment
industry's newest
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and most unexpected tycoon.
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Stigwood is 37, a millionaire,
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and one
of the world's biggest owners
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and manipulators
of other people's talents.
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You don't personally come across
as somebody with immense drive
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or tremendous, abrasive cutting
edge or anything like that.
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You strike me rather
as a rather shy person.
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Yes, but drive, I think,
comes from, uh, inside oneself.
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♪ Better leave her behind ♪
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♪ With the kids
They're all right ♪
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BOB ADCOCK: I first met Robert
when I was a tour manager
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with a band called The Merseys,
and that would have been '66.
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And he was the agent
for the Merseys and the Who.
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♪ ...be a lot better for her
I don't mind other guys... ♪
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BOB: And when Cream formed,
Robert was their manager.
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And he called me to hook up
with Cream.
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♪ ...Sometimes I must get out
In the light... ♪
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BOB: Robert's reputation
was a good one.
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He conducted business
ruthlessly,
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but on behalf of his artists.
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♪ The kids are all right ♪
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I'm speaking to you
from a club in, uh...
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in Hamburg, and I'm Barry Gibb
of the Bee Gees.
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Robin, here. Robin,
we've heard rumors
that the group is splitting up.
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Would you like to verify
those rumors?
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If I was to say that was true,
then I would be
the Premier of Russia.
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No. No.
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-♪ (EARLY ROCK MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
-(CROWD CHEERING)
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ANNOUNCER: Ladies
and gentlemen, would you meet
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Robert Stigwood and Barry,
Robin, and Maurice,
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-The Bee Gees!
-(CROWD CHEERING, APPLAUDING)
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MERV GRIFFIN: Do you
all remember your first meeting?
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Somebody sent you a tape
of these boys from Australia?
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-Yes, they did.
-(ALL LAUGH)
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And I heard it
and I was absolutely astounded,
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it was the most brilliant
harmony, singing,
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and composing I had ever heard.
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MERV: Did you make them
audition for you live?
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-(CROSSTALK)
-I'm afraid I did.
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He came in, aided by two men...
(LAUGHS) ...holding each arm.
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-MERV: Good heavens. Hmm.
-He had a hangover
like you wouldn't believe.
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-(ROBERT GRUNTING)
-He sat down in front of us...
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-(LAUGHS)
-MAURICE: Don't worry, Robin.
This is 11 years ago.
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BARRY: ...and put his head like
this, you know, and said,
"Carry on."
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So we did what we had
worked up, which-- In Australia,
where we had a nightclub act,
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and our act was a medley
of Peter, Paul, and Mary songs,
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ending with Maurice
kissing Robin.
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-MAURICE: This was a long time
ago, folks.
-(ALL LAUGHING)
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In those days.
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-(CROSSTALK)
-I am straightened out now.
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-(ROBERT LAUGHING)
-He never saw a minute of it,
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he heard something and said,
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"Come and see me
in my office later on,"
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-and staggered out again.
-ROBIN: But we later discovered
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that he didn't have a hangover
at all.
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-(LAUGHS)
-He just couldn't stand
what he was hearing.
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(ALL LAUGHING)
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♪ (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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ROBERT: It didn't take a genius
to know
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that one had an incredible new,
exciting talent,
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and I signed the record deal
for them.
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BILL OAKES: I was actually
on the payroll of the Beatles,
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which was a company called
Beatles & Co.
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I was just 17, I was a dogsbody,
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I was the guy that got the fleas
out of Paul McCartney's dog,
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I can't claim that-- You know,
it wasn't a great career start,
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but it got me to meet people,
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and that's how I met
Robert Stigwood.
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KEVIN: Stigwood was working
with Brian Epstein.
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Brian had sort of hit a place
in his life
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where he wasn't sure how much
longer he wanted to manage,
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and obviously the Beatles
were the biggest thing
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ever, ever, ever.
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♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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BILL: Brian Epstein was fed up
with managing.
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He wanted to manage
a bullfighter, as I remember,
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and the Beatles were going
their own way,
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so Robert was brought in really
to run the company.
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ROBERT: I became
Joint Managing Director
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of NEMS on Brian's invitation.
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With Brian looking after
the Beatles,
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and with me really
administrating
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and running the business.
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JAMES DAYLEY: Robert
was in negotiations with Brian
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to take over
as the Beatles' manager.
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ROBERT: If I paid him
half a million pounds,
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I would control the company,
including the Beatles.
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KEVIN: The Beatles didn't know
about it,
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and they didn't like him.
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And they certainly
didn't like the Bee Gees.
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PAUL MCCARTNEY: We said, "Well,
let's just get this straight."
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"We are not going to be sold
to anyone."
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If you-- You can continue
to manage us, we love you.
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We're not going to be sold.
We said in fact, if you do,
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we will record
"God Save the Queen"
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for every single record we make
from now on,
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and we'll sing it out of tune.
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JAMES: Robert finally--
The way he explained it to me
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was he said to the Beatles,
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he said, "You know,
we've kind of ruined
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our work relationship
with each other,
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so why don't you guys
do your thing and I'll do mine?"
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And Robert took his artists,
the Bee Gees, Clapton.
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KEVIN: And they said,
"You can go and take
the Bee Gees with you."
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And he started his own company.
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♪ (“I GUESS THE LORD MUST BE
IN NEW YORK CITY”
BY HARRY NILSSON PLAYING) ♪
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♪ I'll say goodbye
To all my sorrow ♪
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♪ And by tomorrow
I'll be on my way ♪
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♪ I guess the Lord must be
In New York City ♪
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♪ I'm so tired of getting... ♪
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BILL: I got word
that Robert Stigwood
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was starting a company
in New York.
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And I just leapt at it.
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This was a chance
to sort of build his empire.
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♪ I guess the Lord must be... ♪
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BILL: And his attack on America
was spearheaded
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by Jesus Christ Superstar.
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♪ Well, here I am, Lord
Knockin' at your back door... ♪
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TIM RICE: When we were doing
the Superstar album,
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before it was a show,
Robert got in touch with us,
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and Robert definitely knew
what he was doing.
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I mean, a lot of people
had turned us down.
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I mean, I think we always hoped
it would become a show,
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but, I mean,
we had a number one album
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in America,
which was a great thrill for us.
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In a way,
if nothing else had happened,
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we might have thought,
"Well, great,
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we did better than we thought."
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But Robert was the sort
of person
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who could see beyond
a hit record.
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He thought super big...
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and his timing was fortuitous.
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He was lucky to be around
when he was.
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♪ (“BORN ON THE BAYOU”
BY CREEDENCE CLEARWATER
REVIVAL PLAYING) ♪
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(SINGING)
♪ Now, when I was
Just a little boy... ♪
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KEVIN: From Woodstock on,
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Hollywood was totally
in transition.
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♪ My Papa said, "Son"... ♪
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KEVIN: Part of it was that
young people had other choices.
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They had the choice of how
they wanted to spend their time.
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Did they want to go to concerts?
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Did they want
to listen to music?
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And the movie business
had realized it had to change,
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to try to become relevant.
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♪ (“BORN TO BE WILD”
BY STEPPENWOLF PLAYING) ♪
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KEVIN: They started to use music
to illustrate a movie.
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Easy Rider becomes
sort of a snapshot
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of that particular moment.
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♪ (“MRS. ROBINSON”
BY SIMON & GARFUNKEL PLAYING) ♪
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KEVIN: Or The Graduate.
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It was, "What can you provide
that feels relevant and urgent?"
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How do you guys get to being
a Secret Service man?
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KEVIN: It's why you see
all these fantastic filmmakers,
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you know, like Scorsese,
Taxi Driver.
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(GUNSHOT)
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NARRATOR: It was a dog day
afternoon.
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KEVIN: Sidney Lumet.
Francis Ford Coppola.
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Steven Spielberg. George Lucas.
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There were just all
of these voices,
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making really signature films,
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and getting to make them
without handcuffs, creatively.
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You're looking for things
that you wouldn't have thought
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would have worked
as a movie before.
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Because you were reaching
a new audience.
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WOMEN: (SINGING)
♪ Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ ♪
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♪ Who are you?
What have you sacrificed... ♪
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KEVIN: And so for Robert,
these were the things
that he understood.
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He had a great vision
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of how things
could work together.
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And he helped these guys
build Jesus Christ Superstar
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into a worldwide phenomenon.
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BILL: He put together
a concert tour,
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and then the Broadway show,
and then the film.
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(SINGING)
♪ Tell me what you think
About your friends... ♪
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INTERVIEWER: There's been quite
a bit of criticism
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from the religious sections
of society.
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How do you feel about this?
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It's a free world, you know?
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Let everybody say
what they like about anything.
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♪ I only want to know ♪
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♪ (“PINBALL WIZARD”
BY THE WHO PLAYING) ♪
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(SINGING)
♪ Ever since I was a young boy ♪
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♪ I've played
The silver ball... ♪
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KEVIN: People had wanted
to make a movie of Tommy
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for many years, and the guys
would never give 'em the rights.
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And what they knew
with Robert was,
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Robert understood music,
and so they felt looked after.
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Robert got Jack Nicholson,
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just as a lark,
to come in for three days,
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and Ann-Margaret
and Tina Turner,
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like, right after she left Ike,
284
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and she thought Robert
was just her savior.
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♪ Always playing clean
He plays by... ♪
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JAMES: My first
official function
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with the Stigwood Organization
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was the opening
of the movie Tommy.
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The movie opened
at the Ziegfeld Theatre
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and then everybody walked
to the subway station
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on a red carpet.
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Robert had taken it over.
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♪ He's a pinball wizard
There has to be a twist ♪
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♪ A pinball wizard's... ♪
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JAMES: The following morning,
all of these celebrities
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flew from the opening
in New York
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to Los Angeles
for the television program
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that was a 90-minute special.
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NEWSCASTER: Army Archerd
is greeting the celebrities
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as they arrive,
thronging into the foyer,
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for the premiere performance,
right here, of Tommy.
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It's like an old Hollywood
premiere.
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Well, it's a new Hollywood
premiere.
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BOB: I think Robert was more
into show business than music.
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The showbiz side of it,
that's what he excelled at.
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TIM: He covered concerts,
records, stage, film,
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he was good at it all.
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Plus, he was a good impresario.
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♪ He can beat my best ♪
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♪ His disciples lead him in
And he just does the rest... ♪
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ROBERT: I'm a gambler.
I act instinctively.
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You have to know
what people want,
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and I suppose
I'm fairly tuned in to that.
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KEVIN: Robert really understood
the synthesis of movies,
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music, and storytelling.
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He was always looking
for where trends were going,
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and had such a great nose
for what works.
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NEWSCASTER: You have to go all
the way back to Elvis Presley,
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to the Beatles,
to rock and roll,
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and then finally comes disco.
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A very large, very lucrative
new business of dance music,
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maybe the biggest wave yet.
323
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'Cause it certainly seems
that more and more Americans
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are getting more and more
into the disco scene.
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♪ (“NEVER CAN SAY GOODBYE”
BY GLORIA GAYNOR PLAYING) ♪
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♪ I never can say goodbye ♪
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♪ No, no, no, I
I never can say... ♪
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NIK: When I came over to America
in the early '70s,
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New York Magazine hired me
to write about music.
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♪ ...had enough
And start heading... ♪
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NIK: It was the beginning
of disco.
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Disco was essentially gay music,
and Black gay music.
333
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But it was inclusive,
it was all-inclusive.
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♪ It's that same
Old dizzy hang-up... ♪
335
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NILE RODGERS: In the '70s,
I was living in New York.
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We were into jazz,
and we thought our world
was the hippest.
337
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One night I went out
with my girlfriend,
338
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and we went to a disco.
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♪ I don't wanna let you go... ♪
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NILE: And we just
couldn't believe
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that there was this whole other,
really hip world.
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♪ Ooh, ooh, baby... ♪
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NILE: The crowd was such
a disparate crowd.
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It was Latino, Black,
gay, straight,
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but the fact is,
is that everybody treated us
with love.
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In the Black Panthers,
347
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we used to call
that "Liberated territory."
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And that's what a disco
felt like,
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it was '"Liberated territory."
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♪ (“CHANGES”
BY SYLVESTER PLAYING) ♪
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PATRICK BYWALSKI: Robert
used to make numerous trips
to Paris.
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I'm talking about '71, '72.
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Going to discotheques
on the Left Bank.
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It was the place where
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gay people used to meet
and dance.
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♪ Changes
Oh, yes I am... ♪
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PATRICK: He used to love people
taking enhancing stuff,
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you know, to be able to enjoy
the music
359
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and to experiment
with their bodies
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on the dance floor.
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Things that men wouldn't do
before that, I think.
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♪ No more bridges shall... ♪
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JAMES: Robert was-- How did
they put it in Britain? They--
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He was a "confirmed bachelor."
365
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♪ ...going through... ♪
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PATRICK: England, I mean,
it wasn't the place to be gay,
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if I may say so,
because it was outlawed.
368
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♪ ...going through... ♪
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RICHARD GOLDSTEIN: In the '60s,
it was a very harsh environment.
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You could be fired, disgraced,
your family kick you out.
371
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So, for gay people,
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dancing, with someone
of your own sex,
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that is a real emblem
of liberation.
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♪ Changes, changes, changes ♪
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FREDDIE GERSHON:
Before there was ever
a Saturday Night Fever,
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before the disco craze,
Robert got it.
377
00:20:02,117 --> 00:20:06,496
He saw that
it was a new phenomena
378
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taking over the world.
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MURRAY THE K:
Hi, I'm Murray the K.
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Murray the K's Hustle
381
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is now Murray the K's
Hustle C'est La Vie.
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♪ (“THE HUSTLE” BY VAN MCCOY
& THE SOUL CITY SYMPHONY
PLAYING) ♪
383
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♪ Do the hustle ♪
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♪ Do the hustle ♪
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NIK: After "The Hustle,"
suddenly disco was mainstream.
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You had secretaries
and ordinary guys
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going up to hustle class.
388
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There were these hustle contests
and disco dance contests
389
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all over the straightest parts
of New York.
390
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I went to one and I met
a great, great dancer
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called Tu Sweet Allen.
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And I wrote an article about him
in New York Magazine.
393
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Tu Sweet mentioned that
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there were these Italian clubs
in Brooklyn
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that were the opposite
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from what I thought
of as disco culture.
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♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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NIK: And so,
he and I went out there.
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It was very, very forlorn
in those days.
400
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Bay Ridge, around the clubs,
was a desert.
401
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Locked-up body shops.
402
00:21:20,404 --> 00:21:24,449
Bay Ridge was this sort
of bastion of Italian life.
403
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It was tribal.
Everybody was Italian.
404
00:21:34,501 --> 00:21:38,213
So we get out to one
of these Italian clubs...
405
00:21:39,172 --> 00:21:40,215
and we walked in,
406
00:21:40,298 --> 00:21:42,592
and Tu Sweet went
on the dance floor.
407
00:21:42,676 --> 00:21:47,556
And I would say three seconds,
he was jumped on and pounded.
408
00:21:47,639 --> 00:21:50,726
We were out of there
in 25 seconds.
409
00:21:50,809 --> 00:21:52,894
And this wasn't just a sort
of stern warning.
410
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This was a beatdown.
411
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It was the
a hundred and eighty
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from the original
Manhattan clubs.
413
00:22:03,697 --> 00:22:08,035
They were misogynist,
they were anti-gay,
414
00:22:08,118 --> 00:22:10,078
by God, they were anti-Black.
415
00:22:17,002 --> 00:22:18,503
JIM MCMULLAN:
I was an illustrator
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00:22:18,587 --> 00:22:20,047
for New York Magazine.
417
00:22:21,131 --> 00:22:23,425
Nik had said
there's a whole scene
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00:22:23,508 --> 00:22:26,428
happening at clubs in Brooklyn
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that people were paying
no attention to,
420
00:22:29,264 --> 00:22:31,141
so the magazine said to me,
421
00:22:31,224 --> 00:22:32,559
"I think it'd be
really interesting
422
00:22:32,642 --> 00:22:36,146
if you went out with him
and took a camera, look around,
423
00:22:36,229 --> 00:22:37,606
see what you can do."
424
00:22:37,689 --> 00:22:39,608
♪ (“THAT'S WHERE
THE HAPPY PEOPLE GO”
BY THE TRAMMPS PLAYING) ♪
425
00:22:39,691 --> 00:22:43,028
JIM: So we went back
to this converted
426
00:22:43,111 --> 00:22:46,907
sort of supper club
called the 2001 Club.
427
00:22:53,455 --> 00:22:56,583
♪ I used to spend
Most of my time ♪
428
00:22:56,666 --> 00:22:59,961
♪ Just being alone, yes, I did ♪
429
00:23:01,046 --> 00:23:03,965
♪ Nothing to do
No place to go... ♪
430
00:23:04,049 --> 00:23:06,134
JIM: The club was kind of corny,
431
00:23:06,218 --> 00:23:09,930
with these wrought iron
balconies and stuff,
432
00:23:10,013 --> 00:23:11,056
which is not to knock it,
433
00:23:11,139 --> 00:23:13,683
because it had a great
sort of funky charm.
434
00:23:13,767 --> 00:23:16,019
♪ ...to live a little myself ♪
435
00:23:16,103 --> 00:23:19,773
♪ So I went on down
To the disco ♪
436
00:23:20,357 --> 00:23:21,566
♪ Disco... ♪
437
00:23:21,650 --> 00:23:23,777
RALPHIE DEE: Odyssey
wasn't the most elegant place.
438
00:23:23,860 --> 00:23:25,445
(LAUGHING) Put it that way.
439
00:23:25,529 --> 00:23:28,448
But what was good about it,
they would always have groups,
440
00:23:28,532 --> 00:23:31,243
you know, Harold Melvin
and the Blue Notes,
441
00:23:31,326 --> 00:23:33,578
-the Joneses.
-♪ ...disco... ♪
442
00:23:36,498 --> 00:23:38,708
ALEX MARCHAK:
Every disco group they had there
443
00:23:38,792 --> 00:23:40,919
on a Friday night
or Saturday night,
444
00:23:41,002 --> 00:23:43,463
Gloria Gaynor, The Trammps.
445
00:23:43,547 --> 00:23:46,508
♪ And they're just dancing along
To a perfect song... ♪
446
00:23:46,591 --> 00:23:48,009
EARL YOUNG:
That was our home club,
447
00:23:48,093 --> 00:23:49,177
2001 Odyssey.
448
00:23:50,470 --> 00:23:53,682
In Brooklyn, that was one
of the most popular clubs there.
449
00:23:53,765 --> 00:23:55,851
We worked there all the time.
450
00:23:55,934 --> 00:23:57,853
I mean, we were
really well-liked,
451
00:23:57,936 --> 00:23:59,563
but I mean,
we didn't come to socialize,
452
00:23:59,646 --> 00:24:01,606
we come there to work,
it's our job.
453
00:24:02,399 --> 00:24:03,984
At that time, I don't even think
454
00:24:04,067 --> 00:24:05,986
Blacks were even allowed
in the neighborhood,
455
00:24:06,069 --> 00:24:07,654
'cause it was
an Italian neighborhood.
456
00:24:07,737 --> 00:24:10,699
♪ ...I got myself together ♪
457
00:24:10,782 --> 00:24:13,201
♪ I danced my blues away
They're gone forever... ♪
458
00:24:13,285 --> 00:24:14,744
ELIZABETH CURCIO:
It was very Italian.
459
00:24:14,828 --> 00:24:19,166
The boys were called cugines.
"The cugine in the car."
460
00:24:19,249 --> 00:24:22,794
Italian guy with the blown back
DA haircut
461
00:24:22,878 --> 00:24:25,463
in their daddy's Cadillac,
which was very popular,
462
00:24:25,547 --> 00:24:27,716
or maybe a Monte Carlo then.
463
00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:30,635
And had a certain look
that they all feeded into.
464
00:24:30,719 --> 00:24:33,513
The gabardine pants,
the huckapoo shirts.
465
00:24:33,597 --> 00:24:37,267
♪ That's where
The happy people go ♪
466
00:24:37,350 --> 00:24:39,686
♪ And they're
Just dancing along... ♪
467
00:24:41,271 --> 00:24:44,024
♪ (CALM MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
468
00:24:45,317 --> 00:24:46,985
JIM: When I got my photographs
back,
469
00:24:47,068 --> 00:24:51,865
there was so much nuance
that was somewhat concealed
470
00:24:51,948 --> 00:24:54,576
in the dim light of the club.
471
00:24:54,659 --> 00:25:00,707
Nuances of expression, of anger,
hostility, sadness even.
472
00:25:03,543 --> 00:25:04,586
Girls that got left
473
00:25:04,669 --> 00:25:06,755
and were sitting
in their booths alone,
474
00:25:06,838 --> 00:25:08,715
while everybody else danced.
475
00:25:08,798 --> 00:25:13,053
Guys looking for clues
as to how they should behave.
476
00:25:13,136 --> 00:25:17,891
You could really see them
assemble in a hierarchy.
477
00:25:23,230 --> 00:25:27,317
NIK: What I'd tapped into
was that eternal dreaming.
478
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,779
Someone who is trapped,
whose life is going nowhere.
479
00:25:31,780 --> 00:25:34,282
And who,
Saturday night rolls around,
480
00:25:34,366 --> 00:25:36,368
has this dream come true.
481
00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:39,704
It was something I'd seen
482
00:25:39,788 --> 00:25:41,748
where I grew up
in Northern Ireland.
483
00:25:42,916 --> 00:25:45,543
Catholic teenagers,
who had no outlet,
484
00:25:45,627 --> 00:25:48,797
and nowhere to go,
dressed as Teddy Boys,
485
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,341
dancing on the sidewalk
to "Tutti Frutti"
486
00:25:51,424 --> 00:25:52,676
by Little Richard.
487
00:25:54,844 --> 00:25:58,306
When I went to London
in the early '60s,
488
00:25:58,390 --> 00:25:59,808
and Mods were just starting,
489
00:25:59,891 --> 00:26:03,395
and I'd see them work
nine-to-five in a grunt job,
490
00:26:03,478 --> 00:26:06,022
and yet you were King Mod
on the weekend.
491
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,111
I fell in love with the idea
of the alternate reality.
492
00:26:12,529 --> 00:26:15,824
And you'd watch all the rites
and how they interacted.
493
00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:19,828
This extraordinary vanity.
494
00:26:19,911 --> 00:26:25,542
This male, teen thing
of preening, of peacockery.
495
00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:31,881
So when I walked into 2001,
496
00:26:31,965 --> 00:26:34,467
I didn't think,
"This is a specific culture."
497
00:26:34,551 --> 00:26:37,053
I just thought,
"Here it is again."
498
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:44,853
-♪ (PEACEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
-(TYPEWRITER KEYS CLACKING)
499
00:27:23,058 --> 00:27:24,893
BILL: New York Magazine called
it the "Tribal Rites
500
00:27:24,976 --> 00:27:26,478
of the New Saturday Night,"
501
00:27:26,561 --> 00:27:28,480
which was a rather
pretentious title.
502
00:27:34,694 --> 00:27:38,323
NIK: When the article came out,
Robert called me up.
503
00:27:38,406 --> 00:27:40,492
ROBERT: I said,
"You have a movie here already."
504
00:27:40,575 --> 00:27:43,620
I said, "Come to my apartment
this afternoon."
505
00:27:43,703 --> 00:27:46,206
NIK: Robert said,
"Come around for tea."
506
00:27:46,289 --> 00:27:49,292
I think he was attracted
to the street feel.
507
00:27:49,376 --> 00:27:51,836
I mean, that's where he would
have smelled something real.
508
00:27:55,090 --> 00:27:57,384
ROBERT: My next film
is a story about
509
00:27:57,467 --> 00:28:00,845
a ghetto called Bay Ridge
in Brooklyn
510
00:28:00,929 --> 00:28:03,723
and Italian kids
in dead-end jobs,
511
00:28:03,807 --> 00:28:06,559
and how far away Manhattan is.
512
00:28:06,643 --> 00:28:10,897
And a young guy
who discovers himself.
513
00:28:10,980 --> 00:28:13,149
It's much more exciting
than I tell it.
514
00:28:15,610 --> 00:28:17,654
FREDDIE: Robert did not know
who would direct it.
515
00:28:17,737 --> 00:28:18,988
He didn't know
how it would be cast.
516
00:28:19,072 --> 00:28:20,532
He didn't know
what the script would be.
517
00:28:20,615 --> 00:28:23,451
He just knew the skeletal bones
518
00:28:23,535 --> 00:28:27,080
of a fabulous story,
which had global appeal,
519
00:28:27,163 --> 00:28:30,083
was right there
in that New York Magazine.
520
00:28:31,793 --> 00:28:34,337
BILL: That was where Robert
was really inspired.
521
00:28:34,421 --> 00:28:36,047
He could see a magazine article
like that,
522
00:28:36,131 --> 00:28:37,465
and he could see
the whole thing.
523
00:28:37,549 --> 00:28:38,967
He said, "This is a movie."
524
00:28:40,510 --> 00:28:44,389
And Robert saw the soundtrack
as being the killer ingredient.
525
00:28:44,472 --> 00:28:47,267
FREDDIE: Robert believed
that the movie had to have...
526
00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:48,601
(TAPPING RHYTHMICALLY)
527
00:28:48,685 --> 00:28:51,896
...that rhythm. The same rhythm
you heard in a discotheque.
528
00:28:53,731 --> 00:28:55,358
BILL: And right away,
he said, "We're gonna get
529
00:28:55,442 --> 00:28:56,943
the Bee Gees
to write the music."
530
00:28:58,486 --> 00:29:02,574
At the time, the Bee Gees
had a couple of bad years.
531
00:29:02,657 --> 00:29:05,118
There were probably two albums
that I was involved in,
532
00:29:05,201 --> 00:29:06,411
Life in a Tin Can, I remember,
533
00:29:06,494 --> 00:29:09,122
one was Mr. Natural,
that no one bought.
534
00:29:09,205 --> 00:29:12,584
They were stiffs, as they say
in the record business.
535
00:29:12,667 --> 00:29:14,794
ROBERT: I didn't feel they
were really
536
00:29:14,878 --> 00:29:17,297
on the right track musically.
537
00:29:17,380 --> 00:29:19,883
And this happens to stars
very easily,
538
00:29:19,966 --> 00:29:24,179
they close their ears
and just go their own merry way.
539
00:29:24,262 --> 00:29:25,889
And I told them so.
540
00:29:26,931 --> 00:29:28,391
I was saying, for God's sake,
541
00:29:28,475 --> 00:29:31,686
listen to what's happening
in the world today.
542
00:29:31,769 --> 00:29:34,314
♪ ("PICK UP THE PIECES"
BY AVERAGE WHITE BAND PLAYING) ♪
543
00:29:34,397 --> 00:29:37,108
BILL: And so what Robert did,
which was inspired,
544
00:29:37,192 --> 00:29:38,401
was he got Arif Mardin,
545
00:29:38,485 --> 00:29:40,653
who was the producer
of Average White Band,
546
00:29:40,737 --> 00:29:42,113
to produce the next album.
547
00:29:52,207 --> 00:29:54,709
KARL RICHARDSON: Arif Mardin
was a staff producer
548
00:29:54,792 --> 00:29:58,463
at Atlantic Records
and would come into our studio
549
00:29:58,546 --> 00:30:01,382
in Miami
with various Atlantic artists.
550
00:30:06,054 --> 00:30:08,348
KARL: We were working on
Average White Band
551
00:30:08,431 --> 00:30:09,516
and one day he goes,
552
00:30:09,599 --> 00:30:10,934
"Boy, have I got a group
for you, Karl."
553
00:30:11,017 --> 00:30:13,102
He says,
"They sing like angels."
554
00:30:13,186 --> 00:30:14,812
And I said to Arif,
"Who's that?"
555
00:30:14,896 --> 00:30:15,980
He goes, "The Bee Gees!"
556
00:30:17,524 --> 00:30:19,692
The Bee Gees
had had major hit records.
557
00:30:19,776 --> 00:30:22,237
But they'd passed
through the success zone.
558
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,405
They had been
sort of passed over.
559
00:30:25,990 --> 00:30:28,535
Arif Mardin, though,
was a genius.
560
00:30:28,618 --> 00:30:31,204
So he says, "Yeah, it's gonna be
a little more R&B,
561
00:30:31,287 --> 00:30:32,497
a little more rhythm, you know."
562
00:30:32,580 --> 00:30:34,082
'Cause that's what
the studio was.
563
00:30:36,918 --> 00:30:38,795
And I said, "Well, great,
let's do it."
564
00:30:41,047 --> 00:30:43,299
They came in,
and I met their band,
565
00:30:43,383 --> 00:30:45,051
their house band.
566
00:30:45,134 --> 00:30:47,220
And I think it was
about 20 minutes later,
567
00:30:47,303 --> 00:30:49,138
I knew Barry was the leader
of the group,
568
00:30:49,222 --> 00:30:52,267
and we hit it off.
569
00:30:52,350 --> 00:30:55,603
We all just, you know,
had music in our minds.
570
00:30:55,687 --> 00:30:57,188
♪ (“JIVE TALKIN'”
BY THE BEE GEES PLAYING) ♪
571
00:30:57,272 --> 00:31:01,401
♪ It's just your jive talkin'
You're telling me lies, yeah ♪
572
00:31:01,484 --> 00:31:05,738
♪ Jive talkin'
You wear a disguise... ♪
573
00:31:05,822 --> 00:31:08,616
KARL: Because Atlantic Records
was all about R&B.
574
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:11,536
Arif goes, "You know, we tried
a click track at one point
575
00:31:11,619 --> 00:31:13,288
in the drummer's headphones."
576
00:31:13,371 --> 00:31:15,456
He said "Karl, are you up
for that?" I said, "Sure!"
577
00:31:16,624 --> 00:31:18,459
So I found a metronome
hidden way back
578
00:31:18,543 --> 00:31:21,546
in the bowels of Criteria,
and put a microphone on it.
579
00:31:21,629 --> 00:31:23,965
And that became a click...
580
00:31:24,048 --> 00:31:26,801
-(FINGERS SNAPPING)
-♪ Oh, my child
You got so much... ♪
581
00:31:26,884 --> 00:31:30,972
...so that the drummer
would have a positive feel
582
00:31:31,055 --> 00:31:33,099
to where those beats belonged.
583
00:31:33,182 --> 00:31:35,143
(SINGING)
♪ With all your jive talkin' ♪
584
00:31:35,226 --> 00:31:38,396
KARL: And everybody in the band
heard the same click.
585
00:31:38,479 --> 00:31:41,733
So when Barry played guitar,
Barry was grooving,
586
00:31:41,816 --> 00:31:45,320
'cause Barry has amazingly
good time.
587
00:31:45,403 --> 00:31:48,531
That became a fundamental
approach that we got a hold of,
588
00:31:48,615 --> 00:31:50,867
was this pulse.
589
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:52,577
ROBIN GIBB: The difference
in our music now and then,
590
00:31:52,660 --> 00:31:56,289
is our music is completely,
sort of, Black-oriented now,
591
00:31:56,372 --> 00:31:58,166
where it wasn't completely then.
592
00:31:58,249 --> 00:32:02,295
We could play this kind
of music that we're doing now.
593
00:32:02,378 --> 00:32:05,173
And we daren't do it,
because at that time,
594
00:32:05,256 --> 00:32:07,050
people would say, if we did it,
595
00:32:07,133 --> 00:32:08,593
they wouldn't say
it was the Bee Gees.
596
00:32:08,676 --> 00:32:12,930
(SINGING) ♪ There you go
With your fancy lies ♪
597
00:32:13,014 --> 00:32:17,185
♪ Leavin' me lookin'
Like a dumbstruck fool ♪
598
00:32:17,268 --> 00:32:19,354
♪ With all your jive talkin' ♪
599
00:32:19,437 --> 00:32:21,314
KARL: It became one
of the guiding factors
600
00:32:21,397 --> 00:32:23,066
in making a lot
of those records,
601
00:32:23,149 --> 00:32:24,734
was, "Where's the groove?"
602
00:32:24,817 --> 00:32:28,863
♪ (“YOU SHOULD BE DANCING”
BY THE BEE GEES PLAYING) ♪
603
00:32:30,198 --> 00:32:31,824
-BARRY: You heard the lyrics?
-MAURICE: Yes.
604
00:32:31,908 --> 00:32:33,034
BARRY: Great!
605
00:32:38,081 --> 00:32:39,957
BARRY: Albhy, I'm ready to sing,
606
00:32:40,041 --> 00:32:41,334
got the lyrics finished!
607
00:32:41,417 --> 00:32:43,419
-Love it, you sing 'em,
we play 'em, tape 'em!
-All right.
608
00:32:43,503 --> 00:32:44,545
BARRY: Okay 'em.
609
00:32:44,629 --> 00:32:46,255
♪ ...on 'til the dawn ♪
610
00:32:48,091 --> 00:32:50,843
♪ My woman takes me higher ♪
611
00:32:51,803 --> 00:32:53,012
♪ My woman keeps me warm... ♪
612
00:32:53,096 --> 00:32:54,722
ALBHY GALUTEN: The three people
who were in the room
613
00:32:54,806 --> 00:32:58,559
eight hours a day, were me,
and Karl, and Barry.
614
00:32:59,727 --> 00:33:03,898
Barry and I loved R&B.
We connected on that level.
615
00:33:03,981 --> 00:33:05,650
We were never making
disco records.
616
00:33:05,733 --> 00:33:08,486
We were making R&B records
with good songs.
617
00:33:08,569 --> 00:33:10,530
♪ ...she's trouble... ♪
618
00:33:10,613 --> 00:33:12,865
ALBHY: At that time,
Barry was sort of tapped
619
00:33:12,949 --> 00:33:14,534
into the collective unconscious.
620
00:33:14,617 --> 00:33:18,037
When he'd write a new song,
it wouldn't be,
621
00:33:18,121 --> 00:33:19,455
"How big of a hit will this be?"
622
00:33:19,539 --> 00:33:21,541
It would be,
"How many weeks at number one?"
623
00:33:22,959 --> 00:33:25,044
♪ What you doin' on your bed
On your back? ♪
624
00:33:26,921 --> 00:33:29,549
KARL: Main Course, we had three
number one records.
625
00:33:29,632 --> 00:33:32,427
♪ Dancing, yeah... ♪
626
00:33:32,510 --> 00:33:34,262
KARL: When we did
"You Should Be Dancing"
627
00:33:34,345 --> 00:33:35,596
off Children of the World,
628
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,266
Stigwood came in the studio,
and he got the vibe,
629
00:33:38,349 --> 00:33:41,102
he says "Oh, my gosh,
this is a hit record!"
630
00:33:41,185 --> 00:33:42,520
He could just feel it.
631
00:33:44,814 --> 00:33:48,735
(CROWD CHEERING)
632
00:33:48,818 --> 00:33:51,112
BILL: Robert took advantage
of a form of music
633
00:33:51,195 --> 00:33:53,573
that was all there,
and he handed it
634
00:33:53,656 --> 00:33:54,741
to the Bee Gees.
635
00:33:57,910 --> 00:34:00,037
So when Saturday Night Fever
comes about,
636
00:34:00,121 --> 00:34:02,665
the Bee Gees weren't exactly
rookies at this.
637
00:34:04,709 --> 00:34:08,254
At the time, they were mixing
a live album in France.
638
00:34:08,337 --> 00:34:09,505
Robert said,
"Do you have any songs?"
639
00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:10,840
And they said, "Yeah,
we've got a few,
640
00:34:10,923 --> 00:34:13,426
but we're going to keep them
for our own next album."
641
00:34:14,552 --> 00:34:15,970
So, I sent the script to them,
642
00:34:16,053 --> 00:34:17,472
you know, thinking
they'd like to read it,
643
00:34:17,555 --> 00:34:19,682
which was a mistake,
they never read the script.
644
00:34:19,766 --> 00:34:21,434
But about ten days later,
645
00:34:21,517 --> 00:34:24,187
I got a package
from northern France,
646
00:34:24,270 --> 00:34:27,356
and these songs came piling out,
one after the other.
647
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,275
♪ Oh, girl, I've known you
Very well ♪
648
00:34:29,358 --> 00:34:30,943
BILL: "More Than a Woman,"
"Night Fever..."
649
00:34:31,027 --> 00:34:35,281
♪ (“NIGHT FEVER”
BY THE BEE GEES PLAYING) ♪
650
00:34:35,364 --> 00:34:36,616
BILL: "If I Can't Have You..."
651
00:34:36,699 --> 00:34:39,452
♪ (“IF I CAN'T HAVE YOU”
BY THE BEE GEES PLAYING) ♪
652
00:34:39,535 --> 00:34:40,745
BILL: "How Deep Is Your Love..."
653
00:34:40,828 --> 00:34:42,288
♪ (“HOW DEEP IS YOUR LOVE”
BY BEE GEES PLAYING) ♪
654
00:34:42,371 --> 00:34:45,124
♪ I know your eyes
In the morning sun ♪
655
00:34:45,208 --> 00:34:46,292
BILL: ...and "Stayin' Alive."
656
00:34:46,375 --> 00:34:48,961
♪ Well, you can tell by the way
I use my walk ♪
657
00:34:49,045 --> 00:34:51,255
♪ I'm a woman's man
No time to talk... ♪
658
00:34:51,339 --> 00:34:53,341
BILL: And the hairs on the back
of my neck stood up.
659
00:34:53,424 --> 00:34:55,510
This was extraordinary,
to get five demos
660
00:34:55,593 --> 00:34:58,012
of obviously brilliant songs,
661
00:34:58,096 --> 00:34:59,639
which is exactly
what we wanted for the film.
662
00:34:59,722 --> 00:35:02,767
♪ ...the other way
We can try to understand... ♪
663
00:35:02,850 --> 00:35:06,020
BILL: To have those songs
was an enormous boost for me.
664
00:35:06,103 --> 00:35:07,688
We were in preproduction
on the movie,
665
00:35:07,772 --> 00:35:09,690
and we were really rushing.
666
00:35:09,774 --> 00:35:12,276
We had a start date,
'cause we had John Travolta
667
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,072
booked for that time
on his hiatus from his TV show.
668
00:35:16,155 --> 00:35:18,282
You gotta loosen up here,
all right?
669
00:35:18,366 --> 00:35:20,451
All right. Start to relax.
670
00:35:24,539 --> 00:35:26,541
Start to feel who you are.
671
00:35:29,252 --> 00:35:32,588
♪ I said a bar-bar-bar
Bar-bar-barino ♪
672
00:35:32,672 --> 00:35:35,550
♪ Bar-bar-bar, Bar-bar-barino ♪
673
00:35:35,633 --> 00:35:38,010
♪ Bar- bar-bar, Bar-bar-barino ♪
674
00:35:38,094 --> 00:35:39,470
♪ You got me rockin'
And a-reelin' ♪
675
00:35:39,554 --> 00:35:41,848
♪ And a-boppin'
And a-reelin' Barbarino ♪
676
00:35:41,931 --> 00:35:44,725
Vinnie!
Earth to Vinnie!
677
00:35:44,809 --> 00:35:47,186
♪ (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
678
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:49,647
NIK: Travolta was having
a moment as one
679
00:35:49,730 --> 00:35:51,774
of these teen idols.
680
00:35:51,858 --> 00:35:54,443
NEWSCASTER: The young,
sweeter-than-thou,
male adolescent star
681
00:35:54,527 --> 00:35:56,529
is a multi-million-dollar
business.
682
00:35:56,612 --> 00:35:58,698
Donny Osmond and "Puppy Love."
683
00:35:58,781 --> 00:36:01,534
TV's Partridge Family created
David Cassidy
684
00:36:01,617 --> 00:36:03,035
as the newest dreamboat.
685
00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:06,080
FaVE! and STAR!
and 16 and Tiger Beat,
686
00:36:06,163 --> 00:36:08,416
they tell the kids
what their hero wears to bed
687
00:36:08,499 --> 00:36:11,919
and how to get a pillowcase
with his picture on it.
688
00:36:12,003 --> 00:36:15,506
NIK: Somebody else would
have signed him maybe to a film.
689
00:36:15,590 --> 00:36:19,176
But Robert signed him
to three films.
690
00:36:19,260 --> 00:36:21,804
JAMES: Robert paid John
a million dollars
691
00:36:21,888 --> 00:36:23,598
to do three movies.
692
00:36:23,681 --> 00:36:26,100
At the time, it was
the biggest dollar amount
693
00:36:26,183 --> 00:36:28,352
that was ever given
to a television star
694
00:36:28,436 --> 00:36:29,562
to do a movie.
695
00:36:29,645 --> 00:36:31,856
PATRICK: Everybody was laughing
about it.
696
00:36:31,939 --> 00:36:33,107
Because nobody had done that,
697
00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:36,652
you know, coming from television
into feature films.
698
00:36:36,736 --> 00:36:38,946
BARRY DILLER: Travolta,
all of the research said
699
00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:42,199
he's a television person,
he's not a movie person.
700
00:36:42,283 --> 00:36:44,702
KEVIN:
There were a lot of actors
that had not transitioned
701
00:36:44,785 --> 00:36:46,245
to movies.
702
00:36:46,329 --> 00:36:48,539
But Robert just
had this instinct
703
00:36:48,623 --> 00:36:51,167
about John Travolta.
704
00:36:51,250 --> 00:36:53,753
PATRICK: In 1971,
Robert was touring
705
00:36:53,836 --> 00:36:56,255
Jesus Christ Superstar
in the states.
706
00:36:56,339 --> 00:36:58,674
Travolta wanted to be cast.
707
00:36:58,758 --> 00:37:03,012
He was very young at the time.
He probably was like 15 or 16.
708
00:37:03,095 --> 00:37:05,222
I remember the day
my father started saving
709
00:37:05,306 --> 00:37:07,141
for my college education.
710
00:37:07,224 --> 00:37:08,976
It was my tenth birthday,
711
00:37:09,060 --> 00:37:11,771
and he opened a savings account
for ten dollars.
712
00:37:11,854 --> 00:37:14,607
"Brian," he said, "You're gonna
have it better than me."
713
00:37:14,690 --> 00:37:16,734
"You're not going to have
to stand on your feet all day
714
00:37:16,817 --> 00:37:18,444
just to make a buck."
715
00:37:18,527 --> 00:37:20,446
PATRICK: Robert made a note
on his yellow pad,
716
00:37:20,529 --> 00:37:22,907
that this kid will be
a great star.
717
00:37:24,283 --> 00:37:26,702
FREDDIE: Robert said,
"I don't want to have this star
718
00:37:26,786 --> 00:37:29,997
and then not own him
for two more movies.
719
00:37:30,081 --> 00:37:31,248
I'll make him a star,
720
00:37:31,332 --> 00:37:33,334
and then I'll make him
a star a second time,
721
00:37:33,417 --> 00:37:34,752
and then a third time."
722
00:37:34,835 --> 00:37:36,337
NIK: Then he had to find
those three films.
723
00:37:36,420 --> 00:37:38,547
Well, Grease was sitting there.
724
00:37:39,757 --> 00:37:41,175
KEVIN: Grease was an old show
725
00:37:41,259 --> 00:37:42,927
that had been running
on Broadway.
726
00:37:43,010 --> 00:37:45,346
TIM: The first stage show,
Grease, didn't really work.
727
00:37:45,429 --> 00:37:48,391
I mean, it was good,
but it wasn't a huge success.
728
00:37:48,474 --> 00:37:50,434
Most people thought
it was just a fun,
729
00:37:50,518 --> 00:37:51,978
'50s revival show.
730
00:37:52,061 --> 00:37:55,022
But Robert saw it was more
than that.
731
00:37:55,106 --> 00:37:57,984
FREDDIE: Robert said,
"What about it for John?"
732
00:37:58,067 --> 00:38:01,404
And sure enough,
it was exactly what John wanted.
733
00:38:01,487 --> 00:38:03,114
JOHN TRAVOLTA: I get a call
from Robert Stigwood.
734
00:38:03,197 --> 00:38:04,907
Stigwood said, "I think
this is the kid for us,
735
00:38:04,991 --> 00:38:07,451
why don't we put him in Grease
because he can sing and dance?"
736
00:38:08,828 --> 00:38:11,205
NIK: And then,
when the article came out,
737
00:38:11,288 --> 00:38:14,250
Robert said, "This will be just
right for Travolta."
738
00:38:15,501 --> 00:38:18,462
KEVIN: So we got Travolta
just based on the article.
739
00:38:18,546 --> 00:38:20,631
-INTERVIEWER: Do you dance?
-I am going to get to dance
740
00:38:20,715 --> 00:38:23,050
in a film in January
and it's gonna be hot.
741
00:38:23,134 --> 00:38:24,427
Are you scared?
742
00:38:24,510 --> 00:38:26,595
No, it's about discotheques
themselves,
743
00:38:26,679 --> 00:38:28,514
so I'll be, like,
king of the discos.
744
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:30,975
FREDDIE: He believed in John,
745
00:38:31,058 --> 00:38:34,812
and he felt that everything else
was going to fall into place.
746
00:38:34,895 --> 00:38:37,523
But there was no plan
for how it was going to be made.
747
00:38:38,441 --> 00:38:40,651
♪ (UNSETTLED MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
748
00:38:40,735 --> 00:38:43,988
FREDDIE: My job was to make
a deal with Paramount Pictures.
749
00:38:46,115 --> 00:38:48,576
Robert spoke directly
with Barry Diller.
750
00:38:48,659 --> 00:38:51,662
And they agreed
they would be the distributor,
751
00:38:51,746 --> 00:38:53,706
and the deal would be financed
by us.
752
00:38:53,789 --> 00:38:55,374
We wanted 50 percent
of the gross,
753
00:38:55,458 --> 00:38:58,461
and it was compromised
at 45 percent of the gross.
754
00:38:58,544 --> 00:38:59,962
That was the deal.
755
00:39:01,005 --> 00:39:02,798
BILL: No one had ever done that.
756
00:39:02,882 --> 00:39:05,593
When George Lucas, who had made
a deal for Star Wars
757
00:39:05,676 --> 00:39:06,927
at Fox, heard about it,
758
00:39:07,011 --> 00:39:08,929
he wanted that deal,
he wanted the Stigwood deal
759
00:39:09,013 --> 00:39:10,765
he'd heard about at Paramount.
760
00:39:10,848 --> 00:39:12,767
George told me his lawyers
could not believe
761
00:39:12,850 --> 00:39:14,643
the deal that Robert
had somehow extracted
762
00:39:14,727 --> 00:39:17,897
at Paramount
on this little disco movie.
763
00:39:17,980 --> 00:39:19,648
It helped that Robert
was pitching a movie
764
00:39:19,732 --> 00:39:21,233
that none of them
really believed in,
765
00:39:21,317 --> 00:39:22,985
so they didn't care,
they didn't think
it would make money,
766
00:39:23,069 --> 00:39:24,570
they gave him fifty percent.
767
00:39:26,322 --> 00:39:30,451
NIK: Paramount didn't think
it was going to be a hit.
768
00:39:30,534 --> 00:39:34,080
But Robert had
an extraordinary instinct.
769
00:39:34,163 --> 00:39:38,042
And he built up
this little group of people
770
00:39:38,125 --> 00:39:39,710
who he trusted.
771
00:39:41,545 --> 00:39:43,255
BILL: I must've looked about 12.
772
00:39:43,339 --> 00:39:46,675
Literally, I had no experience.
What was I doing in that job?
773
00:39:48,052 --> 00:39:50,012
KEVIN: At this point,
I'm like in my early '20s.
774
00:39:50,096 --> 00:39:54,433
I'm basically running the show,
and I have no experience.
775
00:39:57,353 --> 00:39:59,647
And I said to Robert, "Well,
now what are we going to do?"
776
00:39:59,730 --> 00:40:01,649
And he said,
"You gotta go get a director."
777
00:40:07,530 --> 00:40:11,450
♪ (LIVELY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
778
00:40:12,993 --> 00:40:15,079
KEVIN: So, I had
this magazine article.
779
00:40:15,162 --> 00:40:18,582
Then I'm going around
to various agencies.
780
00:40:18,666 --> 00:40:22,169
I go to CAA,
I go to William Morris.
781
00:40:22,253 --> 00:40:24,004
Basically, nobody
was that interested
782
00:40:24,088 --> 00:40:25,631
in anything I had to say.
783
00:40:26,757 --> 00:40:28,509
I go to this guy Marvin Moss.
784
00:40:28,592 --> 00:40:30,928
And I'm talking to him
about a particular client
785
00:40:31,011 --> 00:40:33,305
and he says to me,
"You know what, kid?
786
00:40:33,389 --> 00:40:35,724
My directors do movies,
787
00:40:35,808 --> 00:40:37,560
they don't do
magazine articles."
788
00:40:39,019 --> 00:40:43,149
NIK: In that time, articles,
they weren't turned into films.
789
00:40:43,232 --> 00:40:45,317
I mean,
Tom Wolfe wrote all those,
790
00:40:45,401 --> 00:40:46,902
you know, very famous articles,
791
00:40:46,986 --> 00:40:48,779
but they weren't turned
into movies.
792
00:40:48,863 --> 00:40:51,532
It was just something
that didn't happen.
793
00:40:51,615 --> 00:40:53,409
KEVIN: I had been in California
for like three days.
794
00:40:53,492 --> 00:40:54,618
I go back to the hotel,
795
00:40:54,702 --> 00:40:56,954
and I make a reservation
to come back to New York,
796
00:40:57,037 --> 00:40:59,832
and I figure, I don't know
what the hell I'm doing.
797
00:40:59,915 --> 00:41:01,834
And the phone rings
and it's Marvin Moss,
798
00:41:01,917 --> 00:41:03,335
who calls me in,
and sort of says,
799
00:41:03,419 --> 00:41:05,004
"I was on a long phone call
with a client
800
00:41:05,087 --> 00:41:06,213
who you wanted to talk to.
801
00:41:06,297 --> 00:41:07,965
He's read the article
and he's interested,
802
00:41:08,048 --> 00:41:10,759
but you should see
his movie first."
803
00:41:13,429 --> 00:41:15,389
"You could see it in New York.
When are you going back?"
804
00:41:15,472 --> 00:41:17,224
And I said, "Over the weekend."
805
00:41:17,308 --> 00:41:19,185
"My boss is
gonna be there, and,
806
00:41:19,268 --> 00:41:22,229
you know, so Stigwood
needs to see the movie, and..."
807
00:41:22,313 --> 00:41:26,150
So Robert and I go to see Rocky,
before it's released...
808
00:41:27,401 --> 00:41:28,861
and we hire John Avildsen.
809
00:41:32,281 --> 00:41:33,949
And Avildsen said,
810
00:41:34,033 --> 00:41:35,826
I want to work with this guy
Norman Wexler.
811
00:41:37,995 --> 00:41:39,705
Norman Wexler is a guy
who's literally
812
00:41:39,788 --> 00:41:41,790
just gotten out
of a mental institution,
813
00:41:41,874 --> 00:41:43,626
is a famous bipolar cat,
814
00:41:43,709 --> 00:41:46,420
and had written
a bunch of movies
815
00:41:46,503 --> 00:41:48,005
and after each one of them,
816
00:41:48,088 --> 00:41:50,299
he sort of would have
this manic flip
817
00:41:50,382 --> 00:41:52,426
and set his life on fire.
818
00:41:52,509 --> 00:41:55,012
FREDDIE: Avildsen said,
if you want gritty,
819
00:41:55,095 --> 00:41:57,598
this is what he makes.
He's a little crazy,
820
00:41:57,681 --> 00:41:59,725
but he's someone I admire
very greatly.
821
00:41:59,808 --> 00:42:01,352
♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
822
00:42:01,435 --> 00:42:03,354
KEVIN: I go down
to his apartment in Chelsea,
823
00:42:03,437 --> 00:42:06,065
which consists of a bed,
a table and two chairs,
824
00:42:06,148 --> 00:42:08,192
and this guy who chain smokes.
825
00:42:10,110 --> 00:42:12,488
I've never supervised
a script before.
826
00:42:12,571 --> 00:42:14,490
I'd go at like 2:00
in the afternoon when he got up,
827
00:42:14,573 --> 00:42:18,285
and he'd show me the pages
he had written the night before.
828
00:42:19,411 --> 00:42:20,663
And it was fantastic.
829
00:42:22,206 --> 00:42:23,666
Stigwood loved it.
830
00:42:23,749 --> 00:42:27,544
And when Travolta read
the script, he loved it too.
831
00:42:27,628 --> 00:42:29,463
JOHN: When I first saw it,
I said, "Gee, you know,
832
00:42:29,547 --> 00:42:32,466
this character seems like
he's underwater most
of the time."
833
00:42:32,549 --> 00:42:34,260
But then every once in a while
he comes up out
834
00:42:34,343 --> 00:42:36,804
and sees everything
exactly how it is.
835
00:42:36,887 --> 00:42:39,348
And has so much knowledge about,
836
00:42:39,431 --> 00:42:40,933
I mean,
like he knows everything.
837
00:42:42,226 --> 00:42:43,978
FREDDIE: When Robert saw
the first draft
838
00:42:44,061 --> 00:42:45,813
of the screenplay,
and his heart was pounding,
839
00:42:45,896 --> 00:42:47,773
he said, "Freddie,
this director,
840
00:42:47,856 --> 00:42:49,942
this screenplay, it's all here,
841
00:42:50,025 --> 00:42:52,319
it's all in the script,
I could see it,
842
00:42:52,403 --> 00:42:53,654
I could visualize it.
843
00:42:55,114 --> 00:42:57,032
This is the movie."
844
00:42:57,116 --> 00:42:58,784
♪ (“JUNGLE BOOGIE”
BY KOOL & THE GANG PLAYING) ♪
845
00:42:58,867 --> 00:43:03,539
♪ Get down, get down
Get down, get down ♪
846
00:43:03,622 --> 00:43:05,374
♪ Get down, get down... ♪
847
00:43:05,457 --> 00:43:07,376
DENEY TERRIO:
I was living in Hollywood Hills.
848
00:43:08,085 --> 00:43:09,628
In my condo building,
849
00:43:09,712 --> 00:43:12,423
there was this young lady
that was on a soap opera.
850
00:43:12,506 --> 00:43:14,508
We were out by the pool one day,
and she said,
851
00:43:14,591 --> 00:43:16,719
"You've done a lot of dancing
shows, haven't you?"
852
00:43:16,802 --> 00:43:17,845
I said, "Yeah."
853
00:43:19,388 --> 00:43:21,682
She goes, "My manager
is Bob Lamont."
854
00:43:21,765 --> 00:43:24,601
Now, he manages John Travolta.
855
00:43:24,685 --> 00:43:26,854
She goes,
"Well, they've got this script
856
00:43:26,937 --> 00:43:28,731
that they're gonna use for John
857
00:43:28,814 --> 00:43:30,733
and they're looking
for a choreographer."
858
00:43:34,111 --> 00:43:37,489
Now Bob lived up in the Hills,
about a mile away.
859
00:43:37,573 --> 00:43:39,241
So I drove over to his house.
860
00:43:39,325 --> 00:43:40,492
I come in the front door.
861
00:43:40,576 --> 00:43:43,287
I didn't even know
what the movie was about,
862
00:43:43,370 --> 00:43:47,124
but I knew I had a chance,
so I moved all the furniture.
863
00:43:47,207 --> 00:43:50,502
He had a nice stereo system,
and I found "Jungle Boogie"
864
00:43:50,586 --> 00:43:52,046
by Kool and the Gang.
865
00:43:52,129 --> 00:43:53,213
♪ ...and shake it around... ♪
866
00:43:53,297 --> 00:43:55,215
DENEY: And I just started doing
all the steps.
867
00:43:55,299 --> 00:43:58,677
The knee drops,
the clock splits, locking up.
868
00:43:59,636 --> 00:44:01,972
Those knee drops, up and down,
869
00:44:02,056 --> 00:44:03,724
I picked up a lot
of those steps
870
00:44:03,807 --> 00:44:07,061
from Don Campbell
and the Lockers, and Soul Train.
871
00:44:07,144 --> 00:44:11,190
♪ ("JUNGLE BOOGIE" CONTINUES) ♪
872
00:44:11,273 --> 00:44:14,777
DENEY: So the next thing I know,
they called me in, at Paramount,
873
00:44:14,860 --> 00:44:18,113
they said, "We're signing you up
to teach this man how to dance."
874
00:44:18,197 --> 00:44:19,490
♪ Jungle boogie ♪
875
00:44:20,491 --> 00:44:22,284
♪ Jungle boogie... ♪
876
00:44:22,368 --> 00:44:23,535
DENEY: John Travolta said,
877
00:44:23,619 --> 00:44:26,246
"Everything I do,
I want it to be great."
878
00:44:26,330 --> 00:44:27,915
I would take him
to these clubs,
879
00:44:27,998 --> 00:44:30,709
and he started discovering
the nightlife
880
00:44:30,793 --> 00:44:33,003
and the dancing and the music.
881
00:44:33,087 --> 00:44:34,421
He was like a sponge.
882
00:44:34,505 --> 00:44:38,050
I just tried to work
on making him a really good,
883
00:44:38,133 --> 00:44:40,177
believable street dancer.
884
00:44:47,726 --> 00:44:50,729
DENEY: One night,
Kevin McCormick
and Robert Stigwood
885
00:44:50,813 --> 00:44:52,356
come in to see
what we're doing
886
00:44:52,439 --> 00:44:54,400
and where we're going
with this dancing.
887
00:44:54,483 --> 00:44:55,818
♪ Till you feel it, y'all... ♪
888
00:44:55,901 --> 00:44:58,904
DENEY: We went side by side
and start doing the step backs,
889
00:44:58,987 --> 00:45:02,616
the crazy legs, the wavy arms
and all the steps.
890
00:45:02,699 --> 00:45:05,869
We got through
and it was dead silence,
891
00:45:05,953 --> 00:45:07,079
you know, nobody said anything,
892
00:45:07,162 --> 00:45:08,622
they'd all look over
at Stigwood.
893
00:45:08,705 --> 00:45:10,416
And all of a sudden,
Robert Stigwood
894
00:45:10,499 --> 00:45:13,252
got this big smile on his face.
895
00:45:14,253 --> 00:45:15,504
He goes, "I love it."
896
00:45:16,588 --> 00:45:20,801
♪ (GENTLE PIANO MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
897
00:45:25,222 --> 00:45:29,977
KEVIN: When Rocky came out,
John Avildsen became a maniac.
898
00:45:31,728 --> 00:45:34,606
He and John Travolta
went from loving each other
899
00:45:34,690 --> 00:45:36,108
to he was impatient with John,
900
00:45:36,191 --> 00:45:38,777
he thought he was too fat,
he thought he needed to train,
901
00:45:38,861 --> 00:45:40,612
he didn't think he could dance.
902
00:45:40,696 --> 00:45:43,449
John takes everything
incredibly seriously
903
00:45:43,532 --> 00:45:45,617
and had a very clear idea
of what he wanted
904
00:45:45,701 --> 00:45:47,453
to do dance-wise.
905
00:45:47,536 --> 00:45:48,787
And Avildsen wasn't, you know,
906
00:45:48,871 --> 00:45:50,664
he couldn't even select
a choreographer
907
00:45:50,747 --> 00:45:52,958
and never could
really quite key into
908
00:45:53,041 --> 00:45:54,501
what it was gonna look like.
909
00:45:54,585 --> 00:45:56,170
He just gets more
and more impatient.
910
00:45:56,253 --> 00:45:58,464
He decides he doesn't like
Norman's script,
911
00:45:58,547 --> 00:46:00,215
which we all loved.
912
00:46:00,299 --> 00:46:02,926
At this point,
Stigwood called me to say,
913
00:46:03,010 --> 00:46:04,845
"What's going on?"
914
00:46:04,928 --> 00:46:06,680
And I said,
"There's something else,
915
00:46:06,763 --> 00:46:07,890
John has decided
916
00:46:07,973 --> 00:46:10,267
that he doesn't want to use
the Bee Gees' music."
917
00:46:10,934 --> 00:46:12,895
And he said, "Really?"
918
00:46:12,978 --> 00:46:15,105
"Call John and tell him
to be at my apartment
919
00:46:15,189 --> 00:46:18,442
tomorrow morning at ten o'clock,
and you should be there, too."
920
00:46:20,402 --> 00:46:24,364
So, Avildsen and I show up,
we're there, waiting.
921
00:46:24,448 --> 00:46:27,367
Stigwood comes in,
and he said,
922
00:46:27,451 --> 00:46:29,161
"John, there's good news
and bad news."
923
00:46:29,244 --> 00:46:31,288
"The good news is
you've just been nominated
924
00:46:31,371 --> 00:46:33,999
for an Academy Award
for Rocky."
925
00:46:34,082 --> 00:46:35,626
"The bad news is you're fired."
926
00:46:39,129 --> 00:46:40,631
And I said to Robert,
"What do we do now?"
927
00:46:40,714 --> 00:46:42,674
And he goes, "Go out,
go get a director."
928
00:46:47,596 --> 00:46:49,223
So I came out to California.
929
00:46:49,306 --> 00:46:52,184
There was a director,
John Badham, who I'd met,
930
00:46:52,267 --> 00:46:54,102
who'd just been fired off
of The Wiz.
931
00:46:55,145 --> 00:46:56,355
JOHN BADHAM: My agent said
to me,
932
00:46:56,438 --> 00:46:59,900
"Do not read this script.
They want you to do this,
933
00:46:59,983 --> 00:47:03,695
but I want to make a deal first
before you go and read it."
934
00:47:03,779 --> 00:47:06,740
And I said,
"Okay, yeah."
935
00:47:06,823 --> 00:47:09,159
So I promptly started
reading it.
936
00:47:09,243 --> 00:47:11,495
Well, like an hour
and a quarter later,
937
00:47:11,578 --> 00:47:13,539
I'm running
around our little house
938
00:47:13,622 --> 00:47:17,042
at that time going,
"This is great! Oh, my God!"
939
00:47:17,125 --> 00:47:20,671
♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
940
00:47:20,754 --> 00:47:23,507
BADHAM: The characters,
the dialogue, the situation,
941
00:47:23,590 --> 00:47:27,261
everything
about the Tony Manero character
942
00:47:27,344 --> 00:47:29,388
just leaps off the page.
943
00:47:30,764 --> 00:47:33,850
I'm a guy who was,
A, born in England,
944
00:47:33,934 --> 00:47:36,645
B, raised in Birmingham,
Alabama,
945
00:47:36,728 --> 00:47:39,398
had been in Brooklyn
maybe once.
946
00:47:39,481 --> 00:47:41,316
And what I knew about dancing
947
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,902
was the dance classes
my mother sent me to
948
00:47:43,986 --> 00:47:46,154
when I was 12 or 13 years old.
949
00:47:46,238 --> 00:47:50,242
And yet, for me,
it jumped off the page.
950
00:47:50,325 --> 00:47:53,453
And only as I'm on a plane
two days later
951
00:47:53,537 --> 00:47:54,871
to go to New York,
952
00:47:54,955 --> 00:47:57,916
to get this thing shooting
in two and a half weeks,
953
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,170
that I go, "Ho, my holy God,
this is a musical!"
954
00:48:02,254 --> 00:48:05,716
♪ (ENERGETIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
955
00:48:05,799 --> 00:48:08,093
BADHAM: I get to New York
and I go to meet Robert,
956
00:48:08,176 --> 00:48:10,262
and one of the first things
he does
957
00:48:10,345 --> 00:48:12,848
is hand me
a little tape cassette,
958
00:48:12,931 --> 00:48:16,226
and he says, "My boys,
the Bee Gees,
959
00:48:16,310 --> 00:48:18,228
have done five demos
960
00:48:18,312 --> 00:48:20,397
that we're going to use
in this movie."
961
00:48:21,690 --> 00:48:24,901
And he said, "Three of them
are gonna be number one hits!"
962
00:48:26,445 --> 00:48:31,199
♪ (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
963
00:48:37,205 --> 00:48:39,958
KEVIN: We started production
flying by the seat of our pants.
964
00:48:40,042 --> 00:48:42,711
You know, all the locations
weren't locked down.
965
00:48:42,794 --> 00:48:44,338
You know,
it was a three-million,
966
00:48:44,421 --> 00:48:46,340
five hundred
thousand-dollar movie.
967
00:48:46,423 --> 00:48:49,343
It's not like
it's a luxurious studio budget.
968
00:48:51,928 --> 00:48:53,597
BILL: We were shooting the movie
at the same time
969
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:54,973
as me getting the music.
970
00:48:55,057 --> 00:48:57,434
We were really rushing, because
I didn't-- never done it before,
971
00:48:57,517 --> 00:48:58,977
I didn't know you had
to get a sync pulse
972
00:48:59,061 --> 00:49:01,480
and a click track... (CHUCKLING)
...and all this stuff, you know?
973
00:49:01,563 --> 00:49:03,231
It was like, we were sort
of making it up
974
00:49:03,315 --> 00:49:04,983
as we went along.
975
00:49:05,067 --> 00:49:09,029
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
976
00:49:09,112 --> 00:49:12,616
KEVIN: There was something
quite wonderful about being
in that neighborhood.
977
00:49:12,699 --> 00:49:15,619
You have to fill the club
with extras who can dance.
978
00:49:15,702 --> 00:49:16,828
You know, better
that they're people
979
00:49:16,912 --> 00:49:19,414
from the neighborhood
who get this, you know?
980
00:49:19,498 --> 00:49:21,458
MAN: Now shape up, you assholes.
We're the faces!
981
00:49:21,541 --> 00:49:26,254
♪ (“A FIFTH OF BEETHOVEN”
BY WALTER MURPHY PLAYING) ♪
982
00:49:45,982 --> 00:49:49,361
ELIZABETH: I did the movie
when I was 20 years old.
983
00:49:50,612 --> 00:49:53,907
My brother and I would compete
in dance contests.
984
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:56,118
JOE CURCIO: They did
a contest for the movie.
985
00:49:56,201 --> 00:49:57,661
If we entered the contest
and we won,
986
00:49:57,744 --> 00:49:59,538
we would get one day
in the movie.
987
00:49:59,621 --> 00:50:03,000
We ended up walking in,
Saturday afternoon,
988
00:50:03,083 --> 00:50:05,085
and I was a little like,
starstruck,
989
00:50:05,168 --> 00:50:07,254
John Travolta was in the corner
reading his lines,
990
00:50:07,337 --> 00:50:08,755
Karen Lynn Gorney was there.
991
00:50:08,839 --> 00:50:11,174
ELIZABETH: So I said,
"Oh, my God, this is really it,
you know?"
992
00:50:11,258 --> 00:50:12,426
JOE: The most beautiful
memory for me,
993
00:50:12,509 --> 00:50:14,928
and this is straight up, no lie,
994
00:50:15,011 --> 00:50:16,596
John Travolta stopped
reading his lines
995
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,807
when we stopped dancing.
He came right over to me,
996
00:50:18,890 --> 00:50:20,308
and he put out his hand
and he said,
997
00:50:20,392 --> 00:50:22,269
"You guys are great,
you're wonderful!"
998
00:50:22,352 --> 00:50:24,646
"My name is John." And I said,
"Well, who don't know that?"
999
00:50:24,730 --> 00:50:26,815
ELIZABETH: My brother goes,
"Yeah, okay,
like I don't know that."
1000
00:50:26,898 --> 00:50:28,567
(LAUGHING) I was like,
"Shut up!"
1001
00:50:28,650 --> 00:50:30,527
MONTI ROCK: We have Elizabeth
and Joseph Curcio!
1002
00:50:30,610 --> 00:50:32,904
Give 'em a hand!
Come on down! Yeah, baby!
1003
00:50:32,988 --> 00:50:34,531
(CROWD CHEERING, APPLAUDING)
1004
00:50:34,614 --> 00:50:36,867
ELIZABETH: To be in a movie,
with John Travolta,
1005
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:38,285
I couldn't believe it.
1006
00:50:38,368 --> 00:50:40,704
And once it got out,
it was like an epidemic.
1007
00:50:42,706 --> 00:50:44,499
The whole 86th Street.
1008
00:50:49,254 --> 00:50:51,298
BADHAM: Our very first day
of filming,
1009
00:50:51,381 --> 00:50:54,926
you couldn't turn anywhere
without seeing people.
1010
00:50:55,010 --> 00:50:56,678
Even if you looked straight up,
1011
00:50:56,762 --> 00:50:59,347
you were seeing kids
hanging over the building.
1012
00:51:00,891 --> 00:51:03,560
We had to shut down
by lunchtime.
1013
00:51:03,643 --> 00:51:05,103
We could not shoot.
1014
00:51:09,816 --> 00:51:11,860
RONA BARRETT: Mr. Stigwood
in a short period of time
1015
00:51:11,943 --> 00:51:13,987
has developed a reputation
1016
00:51:14,070 --> 00:51:18,450
as being someone who knows
exactly what he wants.
1017
00:51:18,533 --> 00:51:21,828
How much control does he have
over the people
1018
00:51:21,912 --> 00:51:23,413
who work for him?
1019
00:51:23,497 --> 00:51:26,583
Well, I think
the great thing about...
1020
00:51:27,834 --> 00:51:31,004
the, uh-- doing pictures
with him, would be
1021
00:51:31,087 --> 00:51:35,509
that he likes the artists
to have a lot of say-so.
1022
00:51:35,592 --> 00:51:38,136
Because I think
he trusts artists' instincts.
1023
00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:41,515
One of the most important
things working with Robert
1024
00:51:41,598 --> 00:51:45,894
is that he gave that kind
of freedom within the projects,
1025
00:51:45,977 --> 00:51:49,356
to get a lot of your own
creative ideas in there.
1026
00:51:49,439 --> 00:51:51,525
And he really did, I mean,
I must say.
1027
00:51:53,568 --> 00:51:56,321
KEVIN: John had
a very evolved sense
1028
00:51:56,404 --> 00:51:58,615
of what the dance solo
should be like,
1029
00:51:58,698 --> 00:52:02,244
and really thought it should
be covered in a specific way.
1030
00:52:02,327 --> 00:52:05,413
And his imagination led him
to what it had to be,
1031
00:52:05,497 --> 00:52:07,165
to be excellent.
1032
00:52:07,249 --> 00:52:08,834
And when he saw the dailies,
1033
00:52:08,917 --> 00:52:12,963
Badham had a much
more ordinary version of it.
1034
00:52:13,046 --> 00:52:15,215
You know, it wasn't anywhere
near captured
1035
00:52:15,298 --> 00:52:17,884
the way he had slaved
for about 18 months
1036
00:52:17,968 --> 00:52:20,136
to really make it
look fantastic.
1037
00:52:21,304 --> 00:52:23,181
BADHAM: The first time
we saw the dailies,
1038
00:52:23,265 --> 00:52:24,933
there were a couple of places
where he went,
1039
00:52:25,016 --> 00:52:26,142
"Why did you do that?"
1040
00:52:26,226 --> 00:52:28,562
And he said, "When you're ready
to shoot it my way,
1041
00:52:28,645 --> 00:52:31,147
"then," you know,
"I'll be in my trailer."
1042
00:52:31,231 --> 00:52:33,817
KEVIN: The movie literally
shut down for three days.
1043
00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:35,151
John wouldn't go back to work,
1044
00:52:35,235 --> 00:52:38,071
he just couldn't imagine
finishing this out
1045
00:52:38,154 --> 00:52:40,740
because Badham
had screwed it up.
1046
00:52:40,824 --> 00:52:42,993
And Robert had to be
a peacemaker,
1047
00:52:43,076 --> 00:52:44,536
to sort of put it back
together again,
1048
00:52:44,619 --> 00:52:47,122
so we could get everybody
back up on the high wire...
1049
00:52:47,205 --> 00:52:49,374
(LAUGHING)
...of making the movie.
1050
00:52:49,457 --> 00:52:52,085
We really talked about it,
and argued a little bit,
1051
00:52:52,168 --> 00:52:53,753
and he said, "Well,
if you really feel
1052
00:52:53,837 --> 00:52:57,132
that strong about it,
it must be-- it must be right."
1053
00:52:57,215 --> 00:53:01,094
BADHAM: Absolutely he was right,
so I went into John's trailer
1054
00:53:01,177 --> 00:53:03,263
and said, "Okay, come on,
we're gonna do this."
1055
00:53:03,346 --> 00:53:05,765
"You're right. I take
your point, I'm sorry."
1056
00:53:05,849 --> 00:53:07,934
"So we'll go and fix it."
1057
00:53:08,018 --> 00:53:13,982
♪ (“YOU SHOULD BE DANCING”
BY THE BEE GEES PLAYING) ♪
1058
00:53:15,692 --> 00:53:17,777
♪ My baby moves at midnight ♪
1059
00:53:17,861 --> 00:53:19,070
(CROWD CHEERING)
1060
00:53:19,154 --> 00:53:22,282
♪ Goes right on till the dawn ♪
1061
00:53:23,491 --> 00:53:24,910
♪ My woman takes me higher... ♪
1062
00:53:24,993 --> 00:53:29,122
KEVIN: In the end, it was rather
simple coverage that sells it.
1063
00:53:29,205 --> 00:53:33,293
You know, that really gave you
how magnificent it was.
1064
00:53:33,376 --> 00:53:35,170
-All right!
-(CHEERING)
1065
00:53:35,253 --> 00:53:37,839
KEVIN: I always think about John
as being incandescent
1066
00:53:37,923 --> 00:53:40,133
in that moment, you know,
he becomes that character.
1067
00:53:40,216 --> 00:53:41,801
♪ ...you should be dancing
Yeah ♪
1068
00:53:41,885 --> 00:53:43,011
All right!
1069
00:53:43,094 --> 00:53:46,473
♪ Dancing, yeah... ♪
1070
00:53:46,556 --> 00:53:50,268
KEVIN: For me, it was both an
incredibly intense experience,
1071
00:53:50,352 --> 00:53:52,270
but I kept thinking,
"How lucky am I?"
1072
00:53:52,354 --> 00:53:54,105
Every day, I couldn't wait
to get there, you know?
1073
00:53:54,189 --> 00:53:56,983
And I think everybody sort
of felt the same way,
1074
00:53:57,067 --> 00:53:59,527
because they knew something
special was going on.
1075
00:54:00,904 --> 00:54:04,491
♪ (UNSETTLED MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
1076
00:54:17,379 --> 00:54:20,131
BILL: I was on the lot
in Paramount Studios
that summer.
1077
00:54:20,215 --> 00:54:21,716
We were editing the movie.
1078
00:54:24,010 --> 00:54:25,553
I was doing Grease
at the same time.
1079
00:54:25,637 --> 00:54:27,847
We were shooting Grease
in Venice, California,
1080
00:54:27,931 --> 00:54:29,766
so we were going
from "Summer Nights,"
1081
00:54:29,849 --> 00:54:33,186
or something like that,
to "Night Fever" at night.
1082
00:54:33,269 --> 00:54:35,522
And I remember they said,
"How's your little disco movie?"
1083
00:54:35,605 --> 00:54:38,024
That was the phrase I got
from Michael Eisner,
of all people.
1084
00:54:38,108 --> 00:54:40,318
He was the president
of the studio.
1085
00:54:40,402 --> 00:54:44,072
He had Looking for Mr. Goodbar,
a movie with Richard Gere,
scheduled for Christmas.
1086
00:54:44,155 --> 00:54:46,408
That was the Paramount
Christmas picture.
1087
00:54:46,491 --> 00:54:47,534
The idea that Robert wanted
1088
00:54:47,617 --> 00:54:49,744
this "little disco movie"
to come out before it,
1089
00:54:49,828 --> 00:54:53,039
and then come out in more
screens, was absurd to Eisner.
1090
00:54:54,541 --> 00:54:57,210
You know, people think
Saturday Night Fever
somehow kicked off disco.
1091
00:54:57,293 --> 00:54:59,170
It actually didn't.
It was dying on its feet
1092
00:54:59,254 --> 00:55:01,214
when we came out with
that movie, I have to tell you.
1093
00:55:01,297 --> 00:55:04,426
Disco was almost over.
I was worried we were too late.
1094
00:55:07,679 --> 00:55:10,306
I remember, when I'd finished
mastering the album,
1095
00:55:10,390 --> 00:55:13,393
I was up all night in Hollywood
at Capitol Records.
1096
00:55:14,602 --> 00:55:16,104
I had the album
that I'd been working on
1097
00:55:16,187 --> 00:55:18,189
for nearly a year and a half
in the back of my car,
1098
00:55:18,273 --> 00:55:19,733
and I was stopped
at a traffic light
1099
00:55:19,816 --> 00:55:22,527
on the way home
on La Brea in Hollywood.
(CHUCKLING)
1100
00:55:22,610 --> 00:55:24,070
And in front of me
there was a truck,
1101
00:55:24,154 --> 00:55:27,032
and on the bumper sticker
said "Death to Disco."
1102
00:55:29,117 --> 00:55:30,660
I remember calling Robert,
I said,
1103
00:55:30,744 --> 00:55:32,746
"You know, I've got a feeling
we might be too late."
1104
00:55:37,625 --> 00:55:39,919
FREDDIE: Saturday Night Fever
did not do well
1105
00:55:40,003 --> 00:55:41,421
in its sneak preview.
1106
00:55:42,047 --> 00:55:43,673
We flew to Ohio.
1107
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,767
People weren't quite sure
what to make of it.
1108
00:55:53,850 --> 00:55:57,020
When we got the so-called
"focus group" report,
1109
00:55:57,103 --> 00:56:00,398
it said, "Saturday Night Fever
sounds like a venereal disease
1110
00:56:00,482 --> 00:56:02,150
you pick up
on a Saturday night."
1111
00:56:02,233 --> 00:56:05,570
"Boy in a white suit,
subliminally,
that's a sissy boy."
1112
00:56:05,653 --> 00:56:07,739
You know,
all these silly things.
1113
00:56:10,158 --> 00:56:13,745
BILL: For a movie musical,
it's quite dark, you know?
1114
00:56:13,828 --> 00:56:15,872
-(SOBS)
-(CAR HORN HONKING)
1115
00:56:15,955 --> 00:56:17,207
(PANTS)
1116
00:56:17,290 --> 00:56:18,792
-(GROANS)
-BILL: There's a rape scene,
1117
00:56:18,875 --> 00:56:20,877
and then, you know, the scenes
in the back of the car,
1118
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,545
and the guy falling off
the bridge.
1119
00:56:22,629 --> 00:56:24,255
This is not
your grandma's musical.
1120
00:56:24,339 --> 00:56:28,093
-Tony, look at me.
-Look at the punk.
1121
00:56:28,176 --> 00:56:30,720
Bobby, get down!
It's too dangerous!
1122
00:56:30,804 --> 00:56:33,306
BILL: The language alone,
we had endless discussions
1123
00:56:33,389 --> 00:56:34,974
about taking all
the language out.
1124
00:56:35,058 --> 00:56:36,726
TONY MANERO:
Oh, fuck the future!
1125
00:56:36,810 --> 00:56:40,063
No, Tony, you can't fuck
the future.
1126
00:56:40,146 --> 00:56:41,481
BILL: Because
it was full of F-words
1127
00:56:41,564 --> 00:56:43,817
that Paramount just
couldn't get their heads around.
1128
00:56:43,900 --> 00:56:45,193
C'mon, fuckhead!
1129
00:56:46,027 --> 00:56:48,071
Hey! Son of a fuck won't budge!
1130
00:56:50,365 --> 00:56:53,743
♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
1131
00:57:01,626 --> 00:57:03,753
PATRICK: Robert was staying
at the Beverly Hills Hotel,
1132
00:57:03,837 --> 00:57:05,880
bungalow five or ten.
1133
00:57:05,964 --> 00:57:08,925
Barry Diller and the execs
at Paramount met with Robert,
1134
00:57:09,008 --> 00:57:12,011
they had breakfast,
and Barry said,
1135
00:57:12,095 --> 00:57:15,098
"There's too many 'fucks'
into the script,
1136
00:57:15,181 --> 00:57:18,685
and it's bad for the audience,
for the young audience."
1137
00:57:18,768 --> 00:57:20,687
"What can I do
to sweeten you off,
1138
00:57:20,770 --> 00:57:22,147
and can you take
1139
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:24,399
a few of the 'fucks'
out of the script?"
1140
00:57:24,482 --> 00:57:26,192
And Robert said,
"How many do you want?"
1141
00:57:26,276 --> 00:57:27,944
"Well, at least five,
1142
00:57:28,027 --> 00:57:30,196
there are about twenty,
at least five."
1143
00:57:30,947 --> 00:57:32,490
Robert said, "Well, five,
1144
00:57:32,574 --> 00:57:35,160
that's five percent extra
on the gross."
1145
00:57:35,243 --> 00:57:36,953
And Barry, "You've got a deal."
1146
00:57:39,414 --> 00:57:41,457
FREDDIE: Ultimately, Robert,
I think, agreed
1147
00:57:41,541 --> 00:57:44,043
to one dirty word
being taken out.
1148
00:57:45,420 --> 00:57:48,965
KEVIN: I remember, very vividly,
I'm in the airport,
1149
00:57:49,048 --> 00:57:50,550
getting ready
to get on a plane to L.A.,
1150
00:57:50,633 --> 00:57:51,718
and somebody paged me,
1151
00:57:51,801 --> 00:57:53,261
and I thought,
"Wonder who the hell that is."
1152
00:57:53,344 --> 00:57:55,180
And I picked up the phone.
And Michael Eisner got
1153
00:57:55,263 --> 00:57:57,599
on the phone
and started screaming at me.
1154
00:57:57,682 --> 00:58:00,768
I think he had just watched
the new cut of the movie.
1155
00:58:00,852 --> 00:58:03,313
"Who do you think you are?
What are you doing?"
Blah-blah-blah.
1156
00:58:03,396 --> 00:58:04,898
He just went on and on
and on and on.
1157
00:58:04,981 --> 00:58:07,150
He was enraged
that there was still a lot
1158
00:58:07,233 --> 00:58:08,985
of language in the movie.
1159
00:58:09,068 --> 00:58:11,321
When I told Stigwood...
(LAUGHING)
1160
00:58:11,404 --> 00:58:13,448
...he thought
it was the funniest thing ever,
1161
00:58:13,531 --> 00:58:15,533
and it made him
absolutely determined
1162
00:58:15,617 --> 00:58:18,453
that it was done,
and that's exactly
what it was gonna be.
1163
00:58:20,914 --> 00:58:22,707
NIK: Robert was very driven
by the idea,
1164
00:58:22,790 --> 00:58:24,918
"You can't do that."
1165
00:58:25,001 --> 00:58:26,961
The moment any suit said to him,
1166
00:58:27,045 --> 00:58:28,922
"You can't do that," it was,
"Right,
1167
00:58:29,005 --> 00:58:32,383
roll up your sleeves,
here we go, lads." You know?
1168
00:58:32,467 --> 00:58:36,262
♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
1169
00:58:36,346 --> 00:58:37,722
NIK: Paramount made clear
1170
00:58:37,805 --> 00:58:41,351
that they were not really going
to push it.
1171
00:58:41,434 --> 00:58:43,436
MICHAEL EISNER:
I had no idea what we had.
1172
00:58:43,519 --> 00:58:44,938
I didn't even know
it was a musical.
1173
00:58:45,021 --> 00:58:47,315
I was walking down the street
on Central Park West
1174
00:58:47,398 --> 00:58:49,442
and I ran into Robert Stigwood
and he said,
1175
00:58:49,525 --> 00:58:51,903
"Do you want to come upstairs
and listen to music?"
1176
00:58:51,986 --> 00:58:53,988
I can say categorically
I went up and listened to it,
1177
00:58:54,072 --> 00:58:55,990
and had no idea
it was a musical, still.
1178
00:58:58,326 --> 00:59:00,536
NIK: That was the thing
that triggered Robert
1179
00:59:00,620 --> 00:59:02,914
to do what no one
had done before,
1180
00:59:02,997 --> 00:59:07,126
release the soundtrack
before the film came out.
1181
00:59:07,210 --> 00:59:09,921
KEVIN: He instinctively knew
that he could use that
1182
00:59:10,004 --> 00:59:14,509
to water anticipation,
and that more than any trailer,
1183
00:59:14,592 --> 00:59:18,096
the music from the movie
would really compel people
1184
00:59:18,179 --> 00:59:20,723
to wanna come
and see what it was.
1185
00:59:20,807 --> 00:59:21,975
BILL: Eventually, Michael Eisner
said,
1186
00:59:22,058 --> 00:59:23,810
"How will we know
if your record's a hit?"
1187
00:59:23,893 --> 00:59:25,436
And Robert said, "Guarantee it,
1188
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,438
it will be a hit,
it'll be number one."
1189
00:59:27,522 --> 00:59:28,856
"How will we know?"
He said, "Okay,
1190
00:59:28,940 --> 00:59:32,235
if it's number one, then you
give me 250 more screens."
1191
00:59:32,318 --> 00:59:36,447
♪ (“A FIFTH OF BEETHOVEN”
BY WALTER MURPHY PLAYING) ♪
1192
00:59:36,531 --> 00:59:37,949
BILL: "If the next one
goes number one,
1193
00:59:38,032 --> 00:59:40,493
you give me
500 more screens."
It was an escalating thing.
1194
00:59:40,576 --> 00:59:42,203
He wrote this all down.
1195
00:59:42,287 --> 00:59:43,621
So they went with it.
1196
00:59:48,751 --> 00:59:50,128
But of course,
he had the last laugh.
1197
00:59:50,211 --> 00:59:52,755
We were number one
seven times with it.
1198
00:59:55,258 --> 00:59:56,467
Every time you turned on
the radio
1199
00:59:56,551 --> 00:59:58,011
you heard
"How Deep Is Your Love,"
1200
00:59:58,094 --> 00:59:59,345
"Stayin' Alive," "Night Fever,"
1201
00:59:59,429 --> 01:00:01,639
"More Than a Woman,"
and "If I Can't Have You."
1202
01:00:05,643 --> 01:00:08,521
NEWSCASTER 1: Four singles
from Saturday Night Fever
1203
01:00:08,604 --> 01:00:10,982
have hit number one
since the album's release,
1204
01:00:11,065 --> 01:00:14,319
more than from any other
new album in history.
1205
01:00:14,402 --> 01:00:16,321
NEWSCASTER 2:
The album Saturday Night Fever
1206
01:00:16,404 --> 01:00:21,367
is projected
to sell some 12 million copies.
1207
01:00:23,036 --> 01:00:24,412
NIK: Right, take that.
1208
01:00:24,495 --> 01:00:26,164
Now can you put it
in the dumpster?
1209
01:00:26,247 --> 01:00:29,042
NEWSCASTER: The album
has sold more
than ten million copies,
1210
01:00:29,125 --> 01:00:31,711
on its way to being
the biggest-selling album
1211
01:00:31,794 --> 01:00:33,004
of all time.
1212
01:00:37,133 --> 01:00:39,886
MICHAEL: I was skiing in Vail,
Colorado.
1213
01:00:39,969 --> 01:00:41,054
I think it opened December 7th,
1214
01:00:41,137 --> 01:00:42,472
this was like two weeks earlier,
1215
01:00:42,555 --> 01:00:44,849
and I heard the guy at the lift
at the bottom,
1216
01:00:44,932 --> 01:00:46,309
and I heard "Stayin' Alive."
1217
01:00:46,392 --> 01:00:48,102
And then I went up
to the top of the lift
1218
01:00:48,186 --> 01:00:50,229
then at the top of the lift,
and went to the restaurant,
1219
01:00:50,313 --> 01:00:52,857
and there was "Stayin' Alive."
1220
01:00:52,940 --> 01:00:54,692
I called up Barry Diller
and I said,
1221
01:00:54,776 --> 01:00:56,694
"Do we have a hit here?"
1222
01:00:56,778 --> 01:01:01,157
♪ (“DISCO INFERNO”
BY THE TRAMMPS PLAYING) ♪
1223
01:01:08,623 --> 01:01:09,957
Oh!
1224
01:01:11,709 --> 01:01:13,252
ANNOUNCER: Presenting
the world premiere
1225
01:01:13,336 --> 01:01:14,754
of Paramount Pictures'
1226
01:01:14,837 --> 01:01:18,758
Saturday Night Fever,
starring John Travolta.
1227
01:01:18,841 --> 01:01:20,885
(CROWD CHEERING)
1228
01:01:20,968 --> 01:01:23,971
ANNOUNCER: Ladies
and gentlemen,
this is John Travolta!
1229
01:01:24,055 --> 01:01:25,473
♪ Burn, baby, burn ♪
1230
01:01:26,974 --> 01:01:28,768
♪ Burn, baby, burn ♪
1231
01:01:30,645 --> 01:01:32,397
RONA: The movie
is Saturday Night Fever,
1232
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:36,442
and the star is John Travolta
disco dancing his way to fame.
1233
01:01:38,194 --> 01:01:40,571
♪ To my surprise... ♪
1234
01:01:41,489 --> 01:01:42,740
ANNOUNCER: Ladies
and gentlemen,
1235
01:01:42,824 --> 01:01:45,410
-will you welcome the Bee Gees!
-(CROWD CHEERING)
1236
01:01:45,493 --> 01:01:48,663
♪ People getting loose y'all ♪
1237
01:01:48,746 --> 01:01:52,125
♪ Getting down on the roof
You hear? ♪
1238
01:01:53,668 --> 01:01:55,461
♪ The funk was flaming... ♪
1239
01:01:55,545 --> 01:01:57,296
PRESENTER 1: Did you get
Saturday Night Fever?
1240
01:01:57,380 --> 01:01:59,257
PRESENTER 2: I do-- I have
Saturday Night Fever.
1241
01:01:59,340 --> 01:02:00,466
Did you disco down?
1242
01:02:00,550 --> 01:02:03,636
-I discoed on down.
-Me too, I had such fun.
1243
01:02:03,719 --> 01:02:07,306
♪ When the boogie started
To explode I heard... ♪
1244
01:02:07,390 --> 01:02:08,474
BILL: When the film did open,
1245
01:02:08,558 --> 01:02:10,893
and it opened massively
to a lot of screens,
1246
01:02:10,977 --> 01:02:12,979
the cinema operators
were immediately all asking
1247
01:02:13,062 --> 01:02:15,940
for more prints,
they wanted to add more screens.
1248
01:02:16,023 --> 01:02:17,733
Paramount said,
"The cinemas are billing us
1249
01:02:17,817 --> 01:02:19,152
for the ushers
they are having to bring in
1250
01:02:19,235 --> 01:02:21,696
to stop the dancing
in the aisles."
1251
01:02:21,779 --> 01:02:24,073
NEWSCASTER 1:
Saturday Night Fever
put rock and roll to bed
1252
01:02:24,157 --> 01:02:26,159
-with a bad cold.
-NEWSCASTER 2:
Saturday Night Fever
1253
01:02:26,242 --> 01:02:28,453
has apparently
revived disco fever.
1254
01:02:28,536 --> 01:02:30,288
NEWSCASTER 3: Hundreds
are rushing to schools
1255
01:02:30,371 --> 01:02:32,039
to learn the right steps.
1256
01:02:33,207 --> 01:02:36,544
♪ ...till I had
To self-destruct... ♪
1257
01:02:36,627 --> 01:02:38,337
BILL: What it did,
was it gave disco
1258
01:02:38,421 --> 01:02:41,007
another, maybe,
five more years of life.
1259
01:02:41,090 --> 01:02:43,426
In the year or two
after Fever came out,
1260
01:02:43,509 --> 01:02:45,344
you couldn't go
to a single nightclub
1261
01:02:45,428 --> 01:02:48,222
anywhere in the world
without people
wearing white suits
1262
01:02:48,306 --> 01:02:50,600
and chains and dancing
like Travolta.
1263
01:02:50,683 --> 01:02:53,686
DENEY: Everybody was going
to the clubs, dressing up,
1264
01:02:53,769 --> 01:02:55,646
fixing their hair, looking good.
1265
01:02:55,730 --> 01:02:59,358
-♪ Burn, baby, burn ♪
-♪ Burn that mother down ♪
1266
01:02:59,442 --> 01:03:01,569
♪ Burn, baby, burn ♪
1267
01:03:01,652 --> 01:03:02,695
♪ Disco inferno ♪
1268
01:03:02,778 --> 01:03:05,072
DENEY: People that would
never dance,
1269
01:03:05,156 --> 01:03:08,242
never want to dance,
wanted to be John Travolta.
1270
01:03:09,494 --> 01:03:12,997
NIK: To me, it was always
just this little magazine story,
1271
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:14,665
and then suddenly it wasn't.
1272
01:03:14,749 --> 01:03:18,961
♪ (“YOU MAKE ME FEEL"
BY SYLVESTER PLAYING) ♪
1273
01:03:22,632 --> 01:03:25,051
PATRICK: I met Robert in '78
in France,
1274
01:03:25,134 --> 01:03:27,887
when he was having
so much success coming through.
1275
01:03:28,971 --> 01:03:30,515
I was driving a limo.
1276
01:03:30,598 --> 01:03:32,391
One afternoon, I was sent
to the airport
1277
01:03:32,475 --> 01:03:34,727
with two other limos
to pick up a group of people
1278
01:03:34,810 --> 01:03:36,103
coming from London.
1279
01:03:36,187 --> 01:03:40,107
♪ When we're out there dancin'
On the floor, darlin'... ♪
1280
01:03:40,191 --> 01:03:41,692
PATRICK: I can see
this lovely group,
1281
01:03:41,776 --> 01:03:45,071
young people arriving,
all smiling and full of fun.
1282
01:03:45,154 --> 01:03:47,573
And then, Robert
is amongst them,
1283
01:03:47,657 --> 01:03:49,867
with a white scarf...
(CHUCKLING)
1284
01:03:49,951 --> 01:03:51,118
...and he picks my car.
1285
01:03:51,202 --> 01:03:53,871
♪ You make me feel
Mighty real... ♪
1286
01:03:53,955 --> 01:03:56,916
PATRICK: Robert said,
"Can you put the radio on?"
1287
01:03:56,999 --> 01:04:00,169
"Okay." And of course,
soon as we put the radio on,
1288
01:04:00,253 --> 01:04:03,089
"Stayin' Alive" is blasting
through the loudspeakers.
1289
01:04:03,172 --> 01:04:04,507
♪ ...mighty real... ♪
1290
01:04:05,675 --> 01:04:07,510
PATRICK:
And he says, "This is my music."
1291
01:04:07,593 --> 01:04:09,929
I said, "No,
you're not a musician."
1292
01:04:10,012 --> 01:04:12,348
And he said, "No,
I'm the producer of the film."
1293
01:04:12,431 --> 01:04:16,602
♪ When we get home, darlin'
And it's nice and dark and... ♪
1294
01:04:16,686 --> 01:04:18,771
Could I ask, for example,
what Saturday Night Fever
1295
01:04:18,854 --> 01:04:20,147
has grossed, thus far?
1296
01:04:20,231 --> 01:04:25,027
I think around 110 million,
at the moment, in America.
1297
01:04:25,111 --> 01:04:27,780
MERV: And what do you
anticipate
after it's all wrapped up
1298
01:04:27,863 --> 01:04:29,198
in a nice big bag?
1299
01:04:29,282 --> 01:04:32,577
ROBERT: I would think something
in the region of 250 million.
1300
01:04:32,660 --> 01:04:34,203
-MERV: Mm.
-It's a very popular film.
1301
01:04:34,287 --> 01:04:37,999
♪ Oh, you make me feel... ♪
1302
01:04:38,082 --> 01:04:39,667
PATRICK: Robert said to me,
1303
01:04:39,750 --> 01:04:41,002
"You stay on, I'm going
to use you,
1304
01:04:41,085 --> 01:04:44,255
I need to go to San Remo,
I'm buying a yacht."
1305
01:04:45,756 --> 01:04:48,050
♪ Mighty real ♪
1306
01:04:48,134 --> 01:04:49,719
PATRICK: Everything
is moving forward,
1307
01:04:49,802 --> 01:04:52,555
he's getting his toy,
this big yacht.
1308
01:04:52,638 --> 01:04:54,307
Money was flowing in.
1309
01:04:54,390 --> 01:04:55,975
MERV: And the album?
1310
01:04:56,058 --> 01:04:59,478
The album, I think,
is nearing 18 million
1311
01:04:59,562 --> 01:05:01,606
double albums worldwide
at the moment.
1312
01:05:01,689 --> 01:05:03,399
But that would be the record
breaker of all time.
1313
01:05:03,482 --> 01:05:06,652
Yes, it's already
the biggest-grossing album
1314
01:05:06,736 --> 01:05:07,945
in the history of music.
1315
01:05:08,029 --> 01:05:09,989
♪ I feel real, I feel real... ♪
1316
01:05:10,072 --> 01:05:11,949
EARL: When that movie came out,
we worked every day.
1317
01:05:12,033 --> 01:05:14,744
Wasn't a day we didn't work.
It was unbelievable,
1318
01:05:14,827 --> 01:05:16,954
you know, how much
money we made.
1319
01:05:17,038 --> 01:05:18,623
Had a suitcase going
to the bank.
1320
01:05:18,706 --> 01:05:21,125
♪ I feel real, I feel real... ♪
1321
01:05:22,918 --> 01:05:24,420
KARL: The Bee Gees
were a little surprised,
1322
01:05:24,503 --> 01:05:25,963
like everybody else.
1323
01:05:26,047 --> 01:05:29,842
It just mushroomed
beyond what expectations
would be.
1324
01:05:29,925 --> 01:05:34,221
They had a 727 plane,
"Spirits Having Flown."
1325
01:05:34,305 --> 01:05:36,432
They sold out
Dodger Stadium in L.A.
1326
01:05:36,515 --> 01:05:38,142
They sold out
Madison Square Garden
1327
01:05:38,225 --> 01:05:39,602
for five nights in a row.
1328
01:05:41,228 --> 01:05:42,521
DENEY: I don't think anybody
1329
01:05:42,605 --> 01:05:46,651
really foresaw the phenomenon
of this movie,
1330
01:05:46,734 --> 01:05:49,528
other than Robert Stigwood
and John Travolta.
1331
01:05:49,612 --> 01:05:51,238
BILL: I remember, when we were
shooting Grease,
1332
01:05:51,322 --> 01:05:54,033
John asking me, like,
"So, what do you think
about Fever?"
1333
01:05:54,116 --> 01:05:55,493
'Cause he wanted to know
how it was shaping.
1334
01:05:55,576 --> 01:05:57,328
I said, "Well, you look great,
you look fantastic."
1335
01:05:57,411 --> 01:05:59,455
He said, "No, is there
any chance for, maybe like,
1336
01:05:59,538 --> 01:06:01,165
an Academy recognition for it?"
1337
01:06:01,248 --> 01:06:03,084
And I thought, "Oh, my God,
this is ridiculous,
1338
01:06:03,167 --> 01:06:05,378
this is not an Academy movie,
are you nuts?"
1339
01:06:05,461 --> 01:06:08,005
-Johnny!
-(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
1340
01:06:08,089 --> 01:06:09,215
BILL: Well, he had
the last laugh,
1341
01:06:09,298 --> 01:06:11,550
he got a nomination,
Academy role for it.
1342
01:06:11,634 --> 01:06:13,260
-How are you?
-INTERVIEWER: You want
to win tonight?
1343
01:06:13,344 --> 01:06:15,763
-Sure, why not?
-INTERVIEWER: What would
the win mean tonight?
1344
01:06:16,472 --> 01:06:19,058
Terrific, terrific validation.
1345
01:06:19,141 --> 01:06:21,394
-INTERVIEWER: See you later!
-(CROWD CHEERING)
1346
01:06:21,477 --> 01:06:23,854
♪ (HOPEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
1347
01:06:23,938 --> 01:06:25,189
PATRICK: Robert was so relieved
1348
01:06:25,272 --> 01:06:28,025
that he was right
in every which way.
1349
01:06:28,109 --> 01:06:30,152
Fever came out,
and then Grease.
1350
01:06:30,236 --> 01:06:33,823
(CROWD APPLAUDING, CHEERING)
1351
01:06:37,118 --> 01:06:39,161
KEVIN: No reason why kids should
have liked it,
1352
01:06:39,245 --> 01:06:42,331
but Stigwood, brilliantly,
got enough new music into it
1353
01:06:42,415 --> 01:06:44,792
that it was both recognizable
but new again.
1354
01:06:46,210 --> 01:06:48,796
FREDDIE: Robert said,
"I want two hit songs!"
1355
01:06:48,879 --> 01:06:50,881
This really happened,
just like this.
1356
01:06:50,965 --> 01:06:55,970
He said, "I want two songs
that could go with this script,
1357
01:06:56,053 --> 01:06:57,179
with this character,
1358
01:06:57,263 --> 01:07:00,683
and if I have two hits,
I could sell this album."
1359
01:07:00,766 --> 01:07:02,685
♪ (“YOU'RE THE ONE THAT I WANT”
BY JOHN FARRAR PLAYING) ♪
1360
01:07:02,768 --> 01:07:04,270
♪ You are the one that I want ♪
1361
01:07:04,353 --> 01:07:06,188
FREDDIE: They wrote
"You're the One That I Want"
1362
01:07:06,272 --> 01:07:10,067
and '"Hopelessly Devoted to You"
and it worked.
1363
01:07:10,151 --> 01:07:15,197
Grease sold 28 million albums.
This was a big deal.
1364
01:07:15,281 --> 01:07:17,825
BILL: Those two movies,
Saturday Night Fever
and Grease,
1365
01:07:17,908 --> 01:07:21,537
carried Paramount
through several fiscal quarters.
1366
01:07:21,620 --> 01:07:24,999
(BRITISH ACCENT)
Robert, I'm over the moon
about our three-picture deal
1367
01:07:25,082 --> 01:07:27,376
and that it has become
so successful.
1368
01:07:28,127 --> 01:07:29,795
(LAUGHS)
1369
01:07:29,879 --> 01:07:33,048
The winner is, Evita,
producer Robert Stigwood.
1370
01:07:33,132 --> 01:07:36,969
(CROWD APPLAUDING, CHEERING)
1371
01:07:37,052 --> 01:07:39,472
TIM: I mean,
from about '75 to '80,
1372
01:07:39,555 --> 01:07:42,266
almost everything
that was successful
was Robert Stigwood.
1373
01:07:42,349 --> 01:07:45,311
You know, Grease, Tommy,
Superstar, Evita,
1374
01:07:45,394 --> 01:07:48,981
RSO Records, the Bee Gees,
Saturday Night Fever.
1375
01:07:49,064 --> 01:07:52,067
He had all these things
going at once, more or less.
1376
01:07:53,986 --> 01:07:56,280
KEVIN: He's on the cover
of Newsweek, and, you know,
1377
01:07:56,363 --> 01:07:57,782
we used to jokingly say
to each other,
1378
01:07:57,865 --> 01:08:00,326
if only they knew
how mad this all is.
1379
01:08:03,537 --> 01:08:06,123
PATRICK: There was so much
money flowing in at the time.
1380
01:08:06,207 --> 01:08:08,000
In the New York office,
the flower bills
1381
01:08:08,083 --> 01:08:11,504
were something like
15,000 dollars a month.
1382
01:08:13,631 --> 01:08:15,341
I mean, the amount of money
that was spent
1383
01:08:15,424 --> 01:08:19,136
by everybody in the office,
let's say, was just staggering.
1384
01:08:19,220 --> 01:08:20,930
But, you know,
it was there to be enjoyed.
1385
01:08:21,013 --> 01:08:22,431
That's what Robert said,
you know,
1386
01:08:22,515 --> 01:08:23,974
"Rather my guys enjoy it,
1387
01:08:24,058 --> 01:08:26,727
rather than pay the IRS
too much money."
1388
01:08:28,437 --> 01:08:30,314
KEVIN: You know, and within
a couple of years,
1389
01:08:30,397 --> 01:08:33,651
you know, it had started
to change.
1390
01:08:33,734 --> 01:08:35,653
-(CROWD CHEERING)
-MAN 1: Turn all the lights on!
1391
01:08:35,736 --> 01:08:37,571
This sign was the original sign
1392
01:08:37,655 --> 01:08:40,324
used when they made all
the posters
1393
01:08:40,407 --> 01:08:43,661
-for Saturday Night Fever!
-(CROWD JEERING)
1394
01:08:43,744 --> 01:08:46,580
Let's give them the salute,
ladies and gentlemen.
1395
01:08:46,664 --> 01:08:49,917
MAN 2: It's time to ring out
the old and bring in the new!
1396
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:51,710
(CROWD CHEERING)
1397
01:08:51,794 --> 01:08:54,130
'Cause we've got something
to say about that.
1398
01:08:54,922 --> 01:08:57,925
♪ I hate disco music ♪
1399
01:08:58,008 --> 01:09:00,719
♪ 'Cause disco music
Really sucks ♪
1400
01:09:00,803 --> 01:09:01,971
That's right.
1401
01:09:02,054 --> 01:09:05,140
♪ And I hate disco music ♪
1402
01:09:05,224 --> 01:09:07,726
♪ 'Cause disco music
Really sucks ♪
1403
01:09:07,810 --> 01:09:09,311
♪ ("DISCO AT AL'S"
BY JAMES O'CONNELL PLAYING) ♪
1404
01:09:09,395 --> 01:09:12,523
♪ Disco sucks
Turn off the radio ♪
1405
01:09:12,606 --> 01:09:15,484
♪ Disco sucks
'Cause I don't wanna hear it ♪
1406
01:09:15,568 --> 01:09:16,861
BILL: I think it
was that natural pushback
1407
01:09:16,944 --> 01:09:19,363
that anything really successful
gets at some point.
1408
01:09:19,446 --> 01:09:21,949
-♪ Disco sucks ♪
-It had become so mainstream,
1409
01:09:22,032 --> 01:09:23,242
that anywhere you went
in the world,
1410
01:09:23,325 --> 01:09:25,369
weddings, funerals,
they always played disco music.
1411
01:09:25,452 --> 01:09:27,079
♪ Disco sucks ♪
1412
01:09:27,162 --> 01:09:28,163
MAN: I hate disco.
1413
01:09:28,247 --> 01:09:29,415
-INTERVIEWER: Yeah?
-It's a snore.
1414
01:09:29,498 --> 01:09:31,917
-I think it sucks, man!
-Disco sucks!
1415
01:09:32,001 --> 01:09:33,460
Disco is a disease!
1416
01:09:34,336 --> 01:09:36,005
RICHARD: Why does it suck?
1417
01:09:36,088 --> 01:09:37,965
Because that's something
gay men do.
1418
01:09:38,674 --> 01:09:39,925
♪ Disco sucks ♪
1419
01:09:40,009 --> 01:09:41,468
RICHARD: It was about the fact
that these people
1420
01:09:41,552 --> 01:09:44,179
were asserting themselves
and shouldn't have.
1421
01:09:44,263 --> 01:09:47,266
I saw Ted Nugent last Saturday,
you know what he said about it?
1422
01:09:47,349 --> 01:09:49,018
He said he was glad for disco
1423
01:09:49,101 --> 01:09:51,312
because it kept them away
from his concerts. (LAUGHS)
1424
01:09:51,395 --> 01:09:53,647
He says, "Those guys don't come
close to me, boy."
1425
01:09:53,731 --> 01:09:54,732
♪ Disco sucks ♪
1426
01:09:54,815 --> 01:09:56,400
NEWSCASTER:
Fifty thousand people got in
1427
01:09:56,483 --> 01:09:58,777
before the White Sox
called upon Chicago Police
1428
01:09:58,861 --> 01:10:00,029
to help close the gate.
1429
01:10:00,112 --> 01:10:02,448
It was billed as
"Disco Demolition Night."
1430
01:10:02,531 --> 01:10:03,741
Then came the main event,
1431
01:10:03,824 --> 01:10:07,494
a crate of disco records
was blown up in center field.
1432
01:10:07,578 --> 01:10:10,581
♪ I don't wanna hear it
I don't wanna hear it ♪
1433
01:10:10,664 --> 01:10:12,333
♪ 'Cause disco sucks ♪
1434
01:10:13,667 --> 01:10:15,586
BILL: It was directed very much
at the Bee Gees,
1435
01:10:15,669 --> 01:10:16,795
more than disco I think.
1436
01:10:16,879 --> 01:10:18,631
It was they were fed up
with the Bee Gees,
1437
01:10:18,714 --> 01:10:20,466
it was weird.
1438
01:10:20,549 --> 01:10:22,384
The Bee Gees were upset
about that,
1439
01:10:22,468 --> 01:10:24,428
you know, having
all their records burnt
1440
01:10:24,511 --> 01:10:26,096
in the middle of a ballpark.
1441
01:10:26,180 --> 01:10:27,973
(CHUCKLES) Who wouldn't be?
1442
01:10:28,057 --> 01:10:30,309
BARRY: We're not really
a disco group,
we do all kinds of music.
1443
01:10:30,392 --> 01:10:32,144
And what happened
with Saturday Night Fever,
1444
01:10:32,228 --> 01:10:33,729
is we actually were asked
to write the music
1445
01:10:33,812 --> 01:10:34,855
and we did so,
1446
01:10:34,939 --> 01:10:37,107
and they used the film
as a disco film,
1447
01:10:37,191 --> 01:10:39,234
which we didn't, weren't aware
that is what they
were going to do,
1448
01:10:39,318 --> 01:10:43,155
was going to be done.
And the music, I think the songs
1449
01:10:43,238 --> 01:10:44,698
stand on their own
apart from disco.
1450
01:10:44,782 --> 01:10:46,241
If "Stayin' Alive" had come out
five years ago,
1451
01:10:46,325 --> 01:10:47,785
no one would have called
it a disco record.
1452
01:10:47,868 --> 01:10:49,370
It's as simple as that.
1453
01:10:51,288 --> 01:10:54,959
KEVIN: Saturday Night Fever
was the apotheosis of disco.
1454
01:10:55,042 --> 01:10:57,086
Then all bets were off.
1455
01:10:57,169 --> 01:11:00,130
ROMAN RICARDO: The film
definitely expedited
disco's death.
1456
01:11:00,214 --> 01:11:01,966
It took the mystery out of it.
1457
01:11:02,049 --> 01:11:04,802
There was no cool scene
around it anymore.
1458
01:11:04,885 --> 01:11:09,223
VINCE ALETTI: Once everybody
is going out in Suburbia, USA,
1459
01:11:09,306 --> 01:11:12,184
and pretending
that they're John Travolta,
1460
01:11:12,268 --> 01:11:14,061
it's done, it's done.
1461
01:11:15,396 --> 01:11:17,815
Anything that big,
it has to end.
1462
01:11:17,898 --> 01:11:20,943
The success, I knew, was going
to be a problem.
1463
01:11:21,026 --> 01:11:23,237
♪ (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
1464
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,864
NEWSCASTER: The movie
Saturday Night Fever
grossed record earnings
1465
01:11:25,948 --> 01:11:27,658
and escalated actor
John Travolta
1466
01:11:27,741 --> 01:11:29,243
to the heights of superstardom.
1467
01:11:29,326 --> 01:11:31,787
Practically everyone involved
made a bundle on the film.
1468
01:11:31,870 --> 01:11:34,832
But there's one man who says
he should've made a bundle,
but didn't.
1469
01:11:34,915 --> 01:11:37,459
He's taking action
to see to it that he does.
1470
01:11:37,543 --> 01:11:40,379
KEVIN: Some guy who said
he spoke to Nik in Brooklyn,
1471
01:11:40,462 --> 01:11:43,173
somebody quite specific,
took it to court.
1472
01:11:43,257 --> 01:11:46,093
INTERVIEWER: What makes
you think that Tony Manero
is you?
1473
01:11:46,176 --> 01:11:49,680
EUGENE "TONY" ROBINSON: I know,
because I was interviewed
by Nik Cohn,
1474
01:11:49,763 --> 01:11:51,098
who wrote the original script,
1475
01:11:51,181 --> 01:11:52,433
"Tribal Rites
of the New Saturday Night,"
1476
01:11:52,516 --> 01:11:53,767
and it was developed
from that article
1477
01:11:53,851 --> 01:11:56,228
in New York Magazine.
1478
01:11:56,311 --> 01:11:57,771
ELIZABETH: From what
I understood, Nik Cohn
1479
01:11:57,855 --> 01:12:00,858
came down to the club one night,
was observing stuff.
1480
01:12:00,941 --> 01:12:02,526
JOE: I'm not sure--
Don't quote me on it.
1481
01:12:02,609 --> 01:12:04,695
I know they-- Somebody
was interviewing somebody.
1482
01:12:04,778 --> 01:12:06,280
ALEX: Basically, there was a guy
coming down,
1483
01:12:06,363 --> 01:12:09,867
asking about this, you know,
all different questions.
1484
01:12:09,950 --> 01:12:13,537
In filing the suit,
what are you really after?
1485
01:12:13,620 --> 01:12:15,164
I would like Paramount
themselves to come out
1486
01:12:15,247 --> 01:12:16,874
and admit
that I'm the character,
1487
01:12:16,957 --> 01:12:19,043
and I would like these writers
to back down,
1488
01:12:19,126 --> 01:12:21,170
and admit
that it's my original gem.
1489
01:12:22,546 --> 01:12:25,424
KEVIN: That lawsuit went on
for a number of years,
1490
01:12:25,507 --> 01:12:27,051
and in the end, Nik said,
"I don't know what
1491
01:12:27,134 --> 01:12:28,761
this guy's talking about.
I made it up."
1492
01:12:28,844 --> 01:12:32,514
♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
1493
01:12:49,114 --> 01:12:50,783
NIK: I made up
the main character
1494
01:12:50,866 --> 01:12:53,702
and built him around a Mod
I had known
1495
01:12:53,786 --> 01:12:55,829
in London in the '60s.
1496
01:12:55,913 --> 01:12:58,749
There was a certain degree
of authenticity about it
1497
01:12:58,832 --> 01:13:02,002
in the sense that I had watched
the various rituals,
1498
01:13:02,086 --> 01:13:04,588
so the attitudes
of the main character
1499
01:13:04,671 --> 01:13:07,841
in terms of his mates,
that was observed.
1500
01:13:07,925 --> 01:13:10,135
The actual character himself
did not exist,
1501
01:13:10,219 --> 01:13:12,012
I have to say I made that up.
1502
01:13:14,306 --> 01:13:15,974
They were guesses,
1503
01:13:16,058 --> 01:13:19,478
and trying to put myself
in somebody else's shoes.
1504
01:13:20,729 --> 01:13:24,566
When I looked at any group
of young teenagers,
1505
01:13:24,650 --> 01:13:27,444
in any culture, it was just,
1506
01:13:27,528 --> 01:13:29,988
I wonder what it's like
to be that way.
1507
01:13:30,072 --> 01:13:34,493
So my imagination would go,
and that's what came out.
1508
01:13:37,955 --> 01:13:39,790
ELIZABETH: So he didn't even
really talk to some kid
1509
01:13:39,873 --> 01:13:42,709
named Tony Manero? Oh, my God.
1510
01:14:01,770 --> 01:14:04,565
(SEAGULLS CAWING)
1511
01:14:18,203 --> 01:14:24,710
♪ (DOWNCAST MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
1512
01:14:41,810 --> 01:14:45,022
NIK: For a long time, he had
just an infallible touch,
1513
01:14:45,105 --> 01:14:47,232
and then, suddenly, he didn't.
1514
01:14:48,942 --> 01:14:51,069
FREDDIE: Moment by Moment
was a disaster
1515
01:14:51,153 --> 01:14:54,573
and humiliating to him.
A horrifically bad movie.
1516
01:14:55,866 --> 01:14:57,951
It may be too early to pick
the worst movies of the year,
1517
01:14:58,035 --> 01:15:00,454
but it is not too early to cite
one of the worst movies
1518
01:15:00,537 --> 01:15:01,830
in the past ten years.
1519
01:15:01,914 --> 01:15:04,374
Maybe the worst big-budget
movie ever made.
1520
01:15:04,458 --> 01:15:07,127
It is Sgt. Pepper's
Lonely Hearts Club Band.
1521
01:15:08,170 --> 01:15:09,505
(ENERGY ZAPPING)
1522
01:15:11,131 --> 01:15:14,343
TIM: The Sgt. Pepper film
and album just was a disaster.
1523
01:15:14,426 --> 01:15:17,471
It was a bad idea,
looking back on it.
1524
01:15:17,554 --> 01:15:20,474
But I'm trying to remember
what other flops he had.
1525
01:15:20,557 --> 01:15:26,146
♪ (“FAR FROM OVER”
BY FRANK STALLONE PLAYING) ♪
1526
01:15:30,025 --> 01:15:31,527
BILL: We did the sequel
to Saturday Night Fever
1527
01:15:31,610 --> 01:15:34,279
called Staying Alive,
which was not enjoyable for me.
1528
01:15:34,363 --> 01:15:35,447
♪ This is the end ♪
1529
01:15:37,616 --> 01:15:42,621
♪ You made your choice
And now my chance is over ♪
1530
01:15:42,704 --> 01:15:45,165
BILL: Stallone was the director
and I was the English meat
1531
01:15:45,249 --> 01:15:47,542
in this rather
weird Italian sandwich,
1532
01:15:47,626 --> 01:15:50,045
with Travolta on one side,
and Stallone on the other,
1533
01:15:50,128 --> 01:15:52,673
and it was me in the middle,
as producer of the film by then.
1534
01:15:57,844 --> 01:15:59,763
But, I mean,
we were just retreading.
1535
01:16:00,973 --> 01:16:03,267
And I think Robert's interest
sort of...
1536
01:16:03,976 --> 01:16:05,435
well really, it went away.
1537
01:16:08,814 --> 01:16:13,610
(SHIP HORN BLARING)
1538
01:16:13,694 --> 01:16:15,279
BILL: And he folded up
his record company,
1539
01:16:15,362 --> 01:16:18,907
and moved to Bermuda,
and never really went back.
1540
01:16:22,411 --> 01:16:28,834
♪ (DREAMY PIANO MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
1541
01:16:34,256 --> 01:16:36,633
PATRICK: He decided
to lift his foot a little bit
1542
01:16:36,717 --> 01:16:39,261
and go into yachting
for a couple of years.
1543
01:16:40,971 --> 01:16:43,515
-MAN 1: Oh, wow, look at this!
-MAN 2: Look at that!
1544
01:16:43,598 --> 01:16:48,145
(MAN CHEERING)
1545
01:16:50,188 --> 01:16:52,316
PATRICK: He had his retreat
in Bermuda.
1546
01:16:52,399 --> 01:16:55,152
A beautiful place in Bermuda
where he would spend,
1547
01:16:55,235 --> 01:16:57,529
-you know, months on end.
-(MAN CHEERING)
1548
01:17:01,658 --> 01:17:03,744
KEVIN: He became
fantastically wealthy.
1549
01:17:04,870 --> 01:17:06,121
JAMES: I watched Robert make,
1550
01:17:06,204 --> 01:17:07,873
you know, a billion dollars
for Paramount
1551
01:17:07,956 --> 01:17:10,667
within three years.
I think 300 million of it
1552
01:17:10,751 --> 01:17:12,586
wound up in his pocket.
1553
01:17:12,669 --> 01:17:15,547
FREDDIE: If you sell 22 million
soundtrack albums,
1554
01:17:15,630 --> 01:17:17,382
and you're averaging
four dollars an album
1555
01:17:17,466 --> 01:17:20,552
as your profit,
that's 88 million dollars more,
1556
01:17:20,635 --> 01:17:23,096
and you're not splitting that
with the studio,
1557
01:17:23,180 --> 01:17:26,933
because Paramount never had
a piece of the album.
1558
01:17:28,727 --> 01:17:31,229
BILL: The studio
wasn't interested
in soundtracks.
1559
01:17:31,313 --> 01:17:32,689
They said,
"Soundtracks don't sell."
1560
01:17:32,773 --> 01:17:34,775
So he said,
"Fine, I'll keep it."
1561
01:17:34,858 --> 01:17:39,029
Which was kind of a mistake
on their part, I think.
1562
01:17:39,112 --> 01:17:42,157
That was probably one
of Robert's lasting
great achievements,
1563
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:46,078
is to wake up the synergy
between records and film.
1564
01:17:46,161 --> 01:17:47,371
You saw the film,
you'd buy the album.
1565
01:17:47,454 --> 01:17:50,082
You listened to the album,
you'd go to the movie.
1566
01:17:50,165 --> 01:17:53,251
KEVIN: The soundtrack became
part of the way
1567
01:17:53,335 --> 01:17:56,797
that you looked
at a movie's success or failure.
1568
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:58,590
You know, Urban Cowboy,
let's see
1569
01:17:58,673 --> 01:18:01,760
if there's a country music
application to it.
1570
01:18:01,843 --> 01:18:03,595
♪ (“WHAT A FEELING”
BY IRENE CARA PLAYING) ♪
1571
01:18:03,679 --> 01:18:06,973
KEVIN: It just became
this crazy phenomenon.
1572
01:18:07,057 --> 01:18:09,267
-♪ (“DANGER ZONE”
BY KENNY LOGGINS PLAYING) ♪
-Top Gun was successful
1573
01:18:09,351 --> 01:18:11,645
on its own, but music
certainly helped it.
1574
01:18:11,728 --> 01:18:14,398
♪ (“I'VE HAD THE TIME
OF MY LIFE” BY BILL MEDLEY,
JENNIFER WARNES PLAYING) ♪
1575
01:18:14,481 --> 01:18:16,858
And it went on
for a really long time.
1576
01:18:20,821 --> 01:18:23,907
♪ (DREAMY PIANO MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
1577
01:18:23,990 --> 01:18:27,244
Robert really did change
a lot of things.
1578
01:18:28,703 --> 01:18:30,122
The good news
was he made more money
1579
01:18:30,205 --> 01:18:31,957
than he ever could
have imagined.
1580
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,085
And I suppose the bad news
is once he did that,
1581
01:18:35,168 --> 01:18:36,628
I think the incentive
1582
01:18:36,711 --> 01:18:39,506
to keep working,
to keep plugged in,
1583
01:18:39,589 --> 01:18:41,800
to keep looking for new things,
went away.
1584
01:18:43,802 --> 01:18:47,764
(WAVES CRASHING)
1585
01:18:47,848 --> 01:18:51,059
NIK: There was a great
loneliness at the heart of him.
1586
01:18:51,143 --> 01:18:52,978
He was always very unsure
of himself.
1587
01:18:53,061 --> 01:18:57,107
Pink-faced, not comfortable,
he was never comfortable.
1588
01:18:57,190 --> 01:18:58,442
He was only close to the people
1589
01:18:58,525 --> 01:19:01,987
who was in his
very immediate circle,
1590
01:19:02,070 --> 01:19:04,281
basically lived with him.
1591
01:19:04,364 --> 01:19:07,701
I mean, the beautiful boys
flitted in and out.
1592
01:19:09,411 --> 01:19:10,787
(LAUGHS)
1593
01:19:10,871 --> 01:19:13,415
ROBERT: Well, I had you,
if you didn't make that move,
1594
01:19:13,498 --> 01:19:14,958
I had you checkmated.
1595
01:19:15,041 --> 01:19:16,418
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
1596
01:19:17,335 --> 01:19:18,503
(ROBERT GROANING)
1597
01:19:20,714 --> 01:19:22,924
PATRICK: He fell in love
with Barry, with me,
1598
01:19:23,008 --> 01:19:24,551
with everyone around him.
1599
01:19:24,634 --> 01:19:27,262
And then, all you had to do
was put the record straight.
1600
01:19:27,345 --> 01:19:31,183
And that was it, then he
was happy to be around you.
1601
01:19:31,266 --> 01:19:34,311
So, he wasn't pushing
anything to anyone.
1602
01:19:34,394 --> 01:19:35,729
ROBERT: Yes.
1603
01:19:35,812 --> 01:19:38,190
They're cheating again.
1604
01:19:38,273 --> 01:19:41,610
-MAN: Would you believe that?
-The two, he gives them advice.
1605
01:19:47,741 --> 01:19:51,286
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
1606
01:19:51,369 --> 01:19:52,621
NIK: His deepest instinct,
1607
01:19:52,704 --> 01:19:57,167
I think, was still
to just charge, madly,
1608
01:19:57,250 --> 01:20:00,170
don't think about the odds,
just keep going.
1609
01:20:01,588 --> 01:20:03,215
But that's impossible
to sustain,
1610
01:20:03,298 --> 01:20:06,218
there comes a day where you
just can't keep doing that.
1611
01:20:06,968 --> 01:20:09,679
And the culture's moved on,
1612
01:20:09,763 --> 01:20:12,098
and you no longer have
the feel for it.
1613
01:20:12,182 --> 01:20:14,392
And part of the art is,
1614
01:20:14,476 --> 01:20:16,228
at that point,
getting off the train,
1615
01:20:17,187 --> 01:20:18,480
and that's what he did.
1616
01:20:20,857 --> 01:20:26,988
♪ (DREAMY PIANO
MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪
1617
01:20:27,072 --> 01:20:32,827
(SEAGULLS CAWING)
1618
01:20:47,133 --> 01:20:49,010
♪ (PIANO MELODY CONCLUDES) ♪
1619
01:20:52,347 --> 01:20:56,476
♪ (“HEART OF GLASS”
BY BLONDIE PLAYING) ♪
1620
01:21:04,568 --> 01:21:08,822
♪ Once I had a love
And it was a gas ♪
1621
01:21:08,905 --> 01:21:11,992
♪ Soon turned out
Had a heart of glass ♪
1622
01:21:13,159 --> 01:21:17,247
♪ Seemed like the real thing
Only to find ♪
1623
01:21:17,330 --> 01:21:20,208
♪ Mucho mistrust
Love's gone behind ♪
1624
01:21:27,841 --> 01:21:31,970
♪ Once I had a love
And it was divine ♪
1625
01:21:32,053 --> 01:21:36,016
♪ Soon found out
I was losing my mind ♪
1626
01:21:36,099 --> 01:21:40,395
♪ It seemed like the real thing
But I was so blind ♪
1627
01:21:40,478 --> 01:21:43,273
♪ Mucho mistrust
Love's gone behind ♪
1628
01:21:46,818 --> 01:21:48,695
♪ In between ♪
1629
01:21:48,778 --> 01:21:52,782
♪ What I find is pleasing
And I'm feeling fine ♪
1630
01:21:52,866 --> 01:21:57,120
♪ Love is so confusing
There's no peace of mind ♪
1631
01:21:57,203 --> 01:22:01,124
♪ If I fear I'm losing you
It's just no good ♪
1632
01:22:01,207 --> 01:22:03,627
♪ You teasing like you do ♪
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