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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,770 --> 00:00:04,270 When was the last time 2 00:00:04,270 --> 00:00:07,520 you dreamed about what the future holds 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,440 or changing a moment from the past? 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,950 These are questions that human beings have thought about 5 00:00:14,950 --> 00:00:17,700 since the beginning of our existence. 6 00:00:20,080 --> 00:00:23,410 Where would you go if you could travel through time? 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,830 It'd be great to time travel 8 00:00:26,830 --> 00:00:29,420 and watch some big dinosaurs walking around. 9 00:00:29,420 --> 00:00:31,170 It'd be great to time travel 10 00:00:31,170 --> 00:00:34,800 into one of the very exciting moments 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,510 where there are great works of art being made, 12 00:00:36,510 --> 00:00:38,510 where great discoveries were being made. 13 00:00:40,260 --> 00:00:43,640 Watch the original Olympics. 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:48,020 For me, being able to reach a far distant future 15 00:00:48,020 --> 00:00:51,900 would very much be interesting because of those reasons, 16 00:00:51,900 --> 00:00:55,240 just seeing and experiencing the world 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,370 in a way that we just can't fathom today whatsoever. 18 00:01:00,580 --> 00:01:02,580 Well, we all wish we were younger. 19 00:01:02,580 --> 00:01:04,750 We all wish we had more time. 20 00:01:04,750 --> 00:01:06,540 So wouldn't it be cool to time travel? 21 00:01:06,540 --> 00:01:08,830 Furthermore, I wonder what it would be like 22 00:01:08,830 --> 00:01:10,750 to meet Michael Faraday. 23 00:01:10,750 --> 00:01:13,760 I think the world would look totally different. 24 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,510 Think 800 years ago how different things were. 25 00:01:17,470 --> 00:01:20,140 I feel that we all, all of us, 26 00:01:20,140 --> 00:01:22,720 want to know what's going to happen in the future, 27 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,930 and all of us would like to know 28 00:01:24,930 --> 00:01:26,440 what would happen in the past, 29 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,850 to either see things that happened in the past 30 00:01:28,850 --> 00:01:30,900 or to alter things in our life. 31 00:01:30,900 --> 00:01:33,820 You can say I don't believe this desk isn't here, 32 00:01:33,820 --> 00:01:36,860 but then you're saying I don't wanna believe facts. 33 00:01:36,860 --> 00:01:38,200 That's a fact. 34 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:39,530 Time travel is real. 35 00:01:40,370 --> 00:01:41,530 Join us 36 00:01:41,530 --> 00:01:45,450 in a mind-bending exploration of time travel, 37 00:01:45,450 --> 00:01:48,460 its origins, its evolution, 38 00:01:48,460 --> 00:01:52,960 and its influence on how we perceive time itself. 39 00:02:26,250 --> 00:02:29,120 I think it's something that's always on people's minds. 40 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,880 You always think of, well, 41 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,670 what if I could've done this better? 42 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,630 I think people are interested in time travel 43 00:02:35,630 --> 00:02:39,430 because, for one, for the same reason people believe in flying. 44 00:02:39,430 --> 00:02:41,140 It's not something we can do. 45 00:02:41,140 --> 00:02:42,550 People always have this idea that they wish 46 00:02:42,550 --> 00:02:44,350 they can go back in time and change something, 47 00:02:44,350 --> 00:02:46,270 to do something differently. 48 00:02:46,270 --> 00:02:48,680 Doctor Who isn't just a TV show. 49 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,350 It's a lifestyle. 50 00:02:50,350 --> 00:02:51,230 It's true. 51 00:02:51,230 --> 00:02:53,020 Doctor Who is awesome. Doctor Who. 52 00:02:53,020 --> 00:02:55,570 I picked up my fashion statements from him. 53 00:02:55,570 --> 00:02:57,190 I really like Back to the Future. 54 00:02:57,190 --> 00:02:59,200 I love Back to the Future. Yeah, that's great. 55 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:00,360 I like Heroes. 56 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:01,200 Yatta! 57 00:03:02,950 --> 00:03:03,820 It's a lesson really. 58 00:03:03,820 --> 00:03:05,410 It's every time travel movie and TV show 59 00:03:05,410 --> 00:03:07,450 king of teaches a lesson. 60 00:03:08,410 --> 00:03:11,420 (people chattering) 61 00:03:13,500 --> 00:03:14,670 Ancient Rome. 62 00:03:17,420 --> 00:03:19,470 Time travel is popular 63 00:03:19,470 --> 00:03:21,760 in our mainstream culture. 64 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:26,560 And if you look for it, you'll realize that it's everywhere, 65 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:31,560 from TV shows to movies, your favorite books, video games. 66 00:03:33,060 --> 00:03:35,560 There is even a time travel store. 67 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,960 So when did our obsession with time travel begin? 68 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,340 The earliest known record on time travel 69 00:03:59,340 --> 00:04:03,050 can be traced back to one of the first written texts 70 00:04:03,050 --> 00:04:06,760 in human history, the Mahabharata, 71 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,890 an ancient Hindu scripture from India. 72 00:04:11,020 --> 00:04:16,020 Once there was an ancient kingdom ruled by the King Revaita. 73 00:04:17,940 --> 00:04:20,360 Feeling that no one could prove to be good enough 74 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,530 to marry his lovely and talented daughter, 75 00:04:23,530 --> 00:04:28,530 he took her with him to Brahmaloka, the home of Brahma. 76 00:04:45,840 --> 00:04:49,390 When the King Revaita and his daughter arrived, 77 00:04:49,390 --> 00:04:53,100 Brahma was listening to a musical performance. 78 00:04:53,100 --> 00:04:55,480 They waited until the performance ended 79 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,190 before approaching the god and asking his wisdom 80 00:04:59,190 --> 00:05:01,610 in selecting the perfect husband. 81 00:05:13,410 --> 00:05:17,580 To that, god Brahma smiled and said, 82 00:05:17,580 --> 00:05:19,880 "All of your daughter's suitors," 83 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:24,260 "their sons and grandsons, no longer exist." 84 00:05:24,260 --> 00:05:27,800 "Centuries upon centuries have passed on Earth" 85 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,430 "and they are no longer alive." 86 00:05:31,350 --> 00:05:32,770 The King and his daughter 87 00:05:32,770 --> 00:05:36,310 hurried back to their kingdom, only to realize 88 00:05:36,310 --> 00:05:40,310 that while they only spent minutes in Brahmaloka, 89 00:05:40,310 --> 00:05:43,280 a millennia had passed on Earth. 90 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,670 The king and his daughter 91 00:05:58,670 --> 00:06:02,250 were now in a completely new world. 92 00:06:06,420 --> 00:06:11,420 Since that story, written over 2,500 years ago, 93 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,810 countless other myths and legends 94 00:06:13,810 --> 00:06:16,230 have been recorded across the world 95 00:06:16,230 --> 00:06:19,440 where people have experienced similar fates, 96 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,520 like sleeping untouched through the passage of time 97 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,110 or journeying into a mystical land 98 00:06:26,110 --> 00:06:27,990 where time behaves differently. 99 00:06:29,110 --> 00:06:30,610 These were the precursors 100 00:06:30,610 --> 00:06:33,330 of the time travel stories we know today. 101 00:06:34,540 --> 00:06:38,580 Time travel was a magical and mysterious phenomenon. 102 00:06:39,540 --> 00:06:43,040 But that was all about to change. 103 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,550 Railways were made possible 104 00:06:44,550 --> 00:06:47,300 by Watt's discovery of steam power. 105 00:06:47,300 --> 00:06:49,470 In the 19th century, 106 00:06:49,470 --> 00:06:53,140 the industrial revolution was in full swing. 107 00:06:54,300 --> 00:06:59,230 Before, the perception of time was hazy and imprecise, 108 00:06:59,230 --> 00:07:02,440 as people relied on sundials and hourglasses 109 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:03,810 to measure their day. 110 00:07:04,980 --> 00:07:09,110 These mechanisms improved as clocks and watches were made. 111 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,870 As progress marched forward, 112 00:07:12,870 --> 00:07:16,200 time became an important part of our lives. 113 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,210 We relied on its accuracy as transportation evolved 114 00:07:21,210 --> 00:07:25,040 and timetables were set around minutes and instead of days. 115 00:07:27,500 --> 00:07:29,470 We have broadened our horizons, 116 00:07:29,470 --> 00:07:32,010 and the end is not yet in sight. 117 00:07:32,010 --> 00:07:34,850 New designs, like these cars of the future... 118 00:07:34,850 --> 00:07:36,390 As new inventions 119 00:07:36,390 --> 00:07:38,770 and technologies were discovered, 120 00:07:38,770 --> 00:07:42,100 it seemed like anything was possible in the future. 121 00:07:43,100 --> 00:07:47,190 This evolving world inspired a new genre of thinkers 122 00:07:47,190 --> 00:07:51,320 and writers, like the Spanish novelist Enrique Gaspar. 123 00:07:53,570 --> 00:07:57,950 In 1887, Gaspar wrote what many believe to be 124 00:07:57,950 --> 00:08:00,790 the first story to feature a machine 125 00:08:00,790 --> 00:08:04,540 that can travel through time, El anacronopete. 126 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:11,000 The novel follows the inventor Don Sindulfo and his crew 127 00:08:11,380 --> 00:08:15,590 and their adventures as they visit major historical events. 128 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,970 With El anacronopete, 129 00:08:18,970 --> 00:08:23,970 you can eat breakfast at seven in Paris in the 19th century, 130 00:08:24,230 --> 00:08:28,360 lunch at noon in Russia with Peter the Great, 131 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,070 and dinner at five in Madrid with Cervantes. 132 00:08:34,860 --> 00:08:39,860 Seven years later, the British novelist HG Wells 133 00:08:39,870 --> 00:08:44,870 would write the most iconic time travel story of our era, 134 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,250 The Time Machine. 135 00:08:48,250 --> 00:08:49,500 Relax. 136 00:08:49,500 --> 00:08:52,260 You have all the time in the world. 137 00:08:55,050 --> 00:08:56,840 You're right, David. 138 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,890 That's exactly what I have, 139 00:09:02,180 --> 00:09:05,140 all the time in the world. 140 00:09:05,140 --> 00:09:08,860 When he was a student, HG Wells began to write 141 00:09:08,860 --> 00:09:12,480 about a machine that could travel through time. 142 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,650 After numerous drafts, it took shape 143 00:09:15,650 --> 00:09:20,620 and was published in 1895 as The Time Machine. 144 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,380 It was an instant success 145 00:09:28,380 --> 00:09:31,750 and marked Wells' career as one of the forerunners 146 00:09:31,750 --> 00:09:34,010 of the science fiction genre. 147 00:09:36,170 --> 00:09:40,180 While entertaining, Wells wrote The Time machine 148 00:09:40,180 --> 00:09:43,520 in order to share his political views on England 149 00:09:44,930 --> 00:09:48,520 and what would happen if capitalism continued to exploit 150 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,440 the working class for the benefit of the rich. 151 00:09:55,150 --> 00:10:00,070 Well's Time Machine is crucial in the time travel genre 152 00:10:00,070 --> 00:10:05,040 because he imagined a machine that could travel 153 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:09,000 not only to the past, but also to the future, 154 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,290 which no one had written about before. 155 00:10:13,090 --> 00:10:17,920 "I saw huge buildings rise up faint and fair" 156 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,640 "and pass like dreams." 157 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,430 "The slowest snail that ever crawled" 158 00:10:23,430 --> 00:10:25,970 "dashed by too fast for me." 159 00:10:26,810 --> 00:10:31,270 "The jerking sun became a streak of fire," 160 00:10:31,270 --> 00:10:34,520 "a brilliant arch, in space," 161 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,690 "and I could see nothing of the stars." 162 00:10:39,030 --> 00:10:41,070 You have to remember that time travel stories 163 00:10:41,070 --> 00:10:45,040 were not new with H.G. Wells's book. 164 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,160 For example, one of the extremely important people 165 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,000 in Connecticut, Mark Twain, wrote 166 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,290 A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court. 167 00:10:55,380 --> 00:10:56,920 That can't be Bridgeport. 168 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,420 Yonder, varlet, is Camelot. 169 00:10:59,420 --> 00:11:00,930 Camelot? 170 00:11:00,930 --> 00:11:03,220 Capital of the kingdom of Britain, 171 00:11:03,220 --> 00:11:05,930 residence and state of King Arthur's court. 172 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:07,560 King Arthur? 173 00:11:09,890 --> 00:11:10,690 What year is this? 174 00:11:10,690 --> 00:11:13,190 This is the year of our lord 528. 175 00:11:13,190 --> 00:11:14,310 In all stories like this, 176 00:11:14,310 --> 00:11:16,110 you either had someone got hit on the head 177 00:11:16,110 --> 00:11:17,150 or lightning or something. 178 00:11:17,150 --> 00:11:20,990 What H.G. Wells's is different is that he had a machine. 179 00:11:20,990 --> 00:11:22,860 It was a device, 180 00:11:22,860 --> 00:11:25,160 and that was the thing that was important to me, 181 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,870 because if you can do that, then that means 182 00:11:26,870 --> 00:11:29,330 that it's something that you have control of. 183 00:11:29,330 --> 00:11:33,460 You just have to learn how to put the device together. 184 00:11:34,290 --> 00:11:37,130 Wells didn't believe in time travel. 185 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,590 But the science in his novel tracked so well 186 00:11:41,590 --> 00:11:44,430 with the revolutionary view of space-time 187 00:11:44,430 --> 00:11:48,220 that it emerged in physics a decade later. 188 00:11:52,270 --> 00:11:54,020 Physics is very predictive power, 189 00:11:54,020 --> 00:11:57,860 and it has to do with the evolution of systems in time. 190 00:11:57,860 --> 00:12:00,280 Sir Newton's Law talks about how thing evolve in time. 191 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,950 Einstein's equations talk about how things evolve in time. 192 00:12:02,950 --> 00:12:05,700 Quantum mechanics discusses how things evolve in time. 193 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:08,910 In the last century, 194 00:12:08,910 --> 00:12:11,750 the scientific community around the world 195 00:12:11,750 --> 00:12:16,420 has made great leaps in conceptualizing time, 196 00:12:16,420 --> 00:12:19,340 but there was one person and theory 197 00:12:19,340 --> 00:12:23,430 that would change our understanding of time forever. 198 00:12:24,930 --> 00:12:26,430 The key to the atom's secrets 199 00:12:26,430 --> 00:12:29,260 was first given to the world in 1905 200 00:12:29,260 --> 00:12:32,020 when the genius Albert Einstein defined the relation 201 00:12:32,020 --> 00:12:34,350 between all matter and energy 202 00:12:34,350 --> 00:12:37,480 and evolved his revolutionary theory of special relativity. 203 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,230 (clock ticking) 204 00:12:39,230 --> 00:12:41,740 Whereas Newton and his contemporaries 205 00:12:41,740 --> 00:12:45,070 believed that time ran at a constant rate 206 00:12:45,070 --> 00:12:48,120 no matter where you were in the universe, 207 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,660 Einstein broke that perception with a revolutionary concept, 208 00:12:52,660 --> 00:12:54,830 that time was relative. 209 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,800 Einstein was the first person to realize 210 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,920 that time was not an absolute flowing thing 211 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,680 but rather something which could be different 212 00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:10,060 depending on the situation. 213 00:13:10,060 --> 00:13:11,520 And so it's an extraordinary thing. 214 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,480 You and I as humans living our life on our happy Earth here, 215 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,520 we imagine time passing at a constant rate. 216 00:13:21,820 --> 00:13:25,280 Albert Einstein was apparently the first guy to imagine 217 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,200 that the speed of time is not constant. 218 00:13:30,740 --> 00:13:33,120 Since the speed of everything else can vary, 219 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,830 you can go x-wise, y-wise, z-wise at different rates, 220 00:13:36,830 --> 00:13:39,670 why couldn't the actual time change? 221 00:13:39,670 --> 00:13:41,920 And he was right. 222 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,800 Time travel definitely is possible, 223 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,880 based on Einstein's theories. 224 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,300 That's an important part. 225 00:13:47,300 --> 00:13:51,510 I mean, the thing that makes physicists believe it 226 00:13:51,510 --> 00:13:54,390 and the thing that should make the general public believe 227 00:13:54,390 --> 00:13:56,850 that time travel possible is that it's anchored 228 00:13:56,850 --> 00:13:59,270 in Einstein's theories of relativity. 229 00:13:59,270 --> 00:14:00,860 And we have actually demonstrated 230 00:14:00,860 --> 00:14:04,690 the possibility experimentally, as well as theoretically, 231 00:14:04,690 --> 00:14:07,860 that time travel into the future is possible. 232 00:14:07,860 --> 00:14:09,160 That has been done, 233 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,830 not dramatically with people, 234 00:14:12,830 --> 00:14:14,830 but definitely with subatomic particles 235 00:14:14,830 --> 00:14:18,290 and even on fractions of a second with people. 236 00:14:18,290 --> 00:14:21,670 If you move fast enough, your heart rate slows down. 237 00:14:21,670 --> 00:14:22,920 Your metabolism slows down. 238 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,800 You don't notice it, but other people would see that. 239 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,680 That would mean that you would age less than other people. 240 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,470 And eventually, if we travel fast enough, 241 00:14:31,470 --> 00:14:34,100 then you would actually be able to travel into the future. 242 00:14:34,100 --> 00:14:37,270 Only maybe hours might pass for you, or a few years, 243 00:14:37,270 --> 00:14:40,230 whereas decades could be passing for other people. 244 00:14:40,230 --> 00:14:42,020 And we've already seen that with experiments 245 00:14:42,020 --> 00:14:44,020 that have been done with passenger jets. 246 00:14:45,820 --> 00:14:49,280 One very famous one was done at the naval observatory, 247 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,870 and they kept a clock at rest 248 00:14:52,910 --> 00:14:55,450 and put the other clock on an ordinary passenger jet 249 00:14:55,450 --> 00:14:56,870 and flew it around the world. 250 00:14:58,710 --> 00:15:00,460 They brought it back, they found the clock 251 00:15:00,460 --> 00:15:02,000 that had been on the passenger jet 252 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,590 had actually slowed down. 253 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,670 Now it was only by fractions of a second, 254 00:15:07,670 --> 00:15:11,340 but that meant that the clock and the passengers on it 255 00:15:11,340 --> 00:15:14,390 had actually traveled fractions of a second into the future. 256 00:15:14,390 --> 00:15:16,470 (bell tolling) 257 00:15:16,470 --> 00:15:20,270 Gravity affects the way that clocks run. 258 00:15:20,270 --> 00:15:23,980 Does this mean that somewhere in the universe 259 00:15:23,980 --> 00:15:27,610 time travel into the future will be possible? 260 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,780 When general relativity was invented, 261 00:15:31,780 --> 00:15:32,910 there was a lot of discussion 262 00:15:32,910 --> 00:15:34,990 on whether there's some kind of, 263 00:15:34,990 --> 00:15:36,490 well, it's called the twin paradox. 264 00:15:36,490 --> 00:15:38,370 There's some kind of paradox 265 00:15:38,370 --> 00:15:40,580 about what would happen if you took 266 00:15:40,580 --> 00:15:42,080 one of a pair of twins and took them 267 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,750 in a space ship a long way away and they came back. 268 00:15:44,750 --> 00:15:47,630 (rocket rumbling) 269 00:15:51,260 --> 00:15:53,430 You could get in a rocket 270 00:15:53,430 --> 00:15:56,010 and you could leave the earth. 271 00:15:56,010 --> 00:15:58,180 You could put a camera on yourself 272 00:15:59,270 --> 00:16:00,980 while you're traveling in the rocket 273 00:16:00,980 --> 00:16:03,310 and you could keep a camera on Earth 274 00:16:03,310 --> 00:16:08,020 and you could stay in constant video contact on the trip, 275 00:16:08,020 --> 00:16:11,490 and the video show he would see of the Earth 276 00:16:11,490 --> 00:16:13,450 would see everyone racing around, 277 00:16:14,530 --> 00:16:18,160 and people watching him would see him moving very slowly. 278 00:16:19,290 --> 00:16:21,750 I close with goodnight. 279 00:16:21,750 --> 00:16:24,420 And those images show him just moving very slowly 280 00:16:24,420 --> 00:16:26,210 and eating very slowly 281 00:16:26,210 --> 00:16:31,090 and going to bed seemingly every six months 282 00:16:31,090 --> 00:16:32,260 and he goes to bed 283 00:16:32,260 --> 00:16:33,930 and then he's been six months in bed or something 284 00:16:33,930 --> 00:16:35,220 and he doesn't move. 285 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:38,510 Affirmative. 286 00:16:38,510 --> 00:16:41,100 When he comes back, you're not really surprised 287 00:16:41,100 --> 00:16:43,270 that he's aged less because you've watched him 288 00:16:43,270 --> 00:16:46,650 the whole time and you've seen him in slow motion 289 00:16:46,650 --> 00:16:49,650 and he's seen everything on Earth going by quickly. 290 00:16:50,690 --> 00:16:53,110 And there's no paradox there. 291 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,320 His lifespan is still the human lifespan. 292 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,750 It's just that in the course of his human lifespan, 293 00:17:01,750 --> 00:17:05,330 a lot more time has gone by on Earth, 294 00:17:05,330 --> 00:17:07,710 so he ends up in the future where he's then stuck. 295 00:17:07,710 --> 00:17:11,340 He cannot return 'cause there's no backward in time travel, 296 00:17:11,340 --> 00:17:14,130 so he just then lives 100 years in the future. 297 00:17:14,130 --> 00:17:16,550 That's fine by the laws of physics. 298 00:17:22,140 --> 00:17:23,980 Time traveling into the future 299 00:17:23,980 --> 00:17:26,980 is theoretically possible. 300 00:17:26,980 --> 00:17:31,110 In a sense, some astronauts have been time travelers, 301 00:17:31,110 --> 00:17:34,070 as they have traveled milliseconds into the future. 302 00:17:34,940 --> 00:17:37,950 However, traveling to the past 303 00:17:37,950 --> 00:17:41,120 presents far more complications. 304 00:17:43,830 --> 00:17:48,830 Apparently, there are certain conditions theoretically 305 00:17:49,540 --> 00:17:51,590 where you can get from one part of the universe 306 00:17:51,590 --> 00:17:54,760 to another part of the universe at a different time 307 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,930 through a mathematical thing people call a wormhole 308 00:17:57,930 --> 00:17:59,430 'cause it would be a narrow hole 309 00:17:59,430 --> 00:18:02,140 that only a worm can fit through on its own. 310 00:18:02,140 --> 00:18:04,430 But my understanding of wormholes 311 00:18:04,430 --> 00:18:06,140 that are not in science fiction 312 00:18:07,140 --> 00:18:09,400 is that also if you try to pass through those, 313 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:10,310 it'd be like going into 314 00:18:10,310 --> 00:18:12,980 the extraordinary gravity of a black hole. 315 00:18:12,980 --> 00:18:16,190 A black hole is a star that's so big. 316 00:18:16,190 --> 00:18:17,030 How big is it? 317 00:18:17,030 --> 00:18:19,280 It's so big that it has so much gravity 318 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,570 that not even light can escape from it. 319 00:18:21,570 --> 00:18:22,990 So it's an ironic thing. 320 00:18:22,990 --> 00:18:26,700 It's a star that is inherently invisible. 321 00:18:26,700 --> 00:18:27,540 This would kill you. 322 00:18:27,540 --> 00:18:28,960 If you tried to go through the wormhole, 323 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,330 you'd be stretched extraordinarily thin, 324 00:18:32,340 --> 00:18:35,960 100 kilometers long, and turn to bloody mess in an instant. 325 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,050 But theoretically, it is a fabulous thing. 326 00:18:38,050 --> 00:18:40,090 All we gotta do is overcome that problem. 327 00:18:41,140 --> 00:18:45,560 This evolving idea of time in physics 328 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,770 has laid the groundwork for time travel stories, 329 00:18:49,770 --> 00:18:53,020 which gained popularity in the 20th century. 330 00:18:53,020 --> 00:18:54,360 ("Doctor Who Theme" by Ron Grainer) 331 00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:59,150 It provided inspiration for science fiction writers 332 00:18:59,150 --> 00:19:02,160 and encouraged a greater exploration 333 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,740 of the possibilities of time travel. 334 00:19:04,740 --> 00:19:06,950 ("Quantum Leap" by Mike Post) 335 00:19:06,950 --> 00:19:08,620 I think time travel, yeah, 336 00:19:08,620 --> 00:19:10,620 it's a narrative device, I mean, ultimately. 337 00:19:10,620 --> 00:19:12,380 In science fiction, that's what you're doing. 338 00:19:12,380 --> 00:19:15,300 You're thinking of a way that you're gonna be able 339 00:19:15,300 --> 00:19:17,710 to tell a story from a unique perspective. 340 00:19:17,710 --> 00:19:20,050 Ideally, it's integrated intimately 341 00:19:20,050 --> 00:19:21,760 with the theme of your story. 342 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,470 Charles Yu wrote a book called 343 00:19:24,470 --> 00:19:26,640 How to Live Safely in a Science Fictional Universe, 344 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,520 which uses time travel to examine nostalgia, 345 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,020 your childhood, and your relationships with your parents, 346 00:19:33,020 --> 00:19:34,610 and, like, it was awesome. 347 00:19:34,610 --> 00:19:37,650 I mean, it did exactly what I felt like it should do. 348 00:19:39,150 --> 00:19:41,200 Everyone has a time machine. 349 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,120 Everyone is a time machine. 350 00:19:45,030 --> 00:19:49,790 It's just that most people's time machines are broken. 351 00:19:49,790 --> 00:19:53,250 The strangest and hardest kind of time travel 352 00:19:53,250 --> 00:19:54,960 is the unaided kind. 353 00:19:56,090 --> 00:19:57,960 People get stuck. 354 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,960 People get looped. 355 00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:01,470 People get trapped. 356 00:20:02,550 --> 00:20:04,890 But we are all time machines. 357 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:07,970 You don't see stories 358 00:20:07,970 --> 00:20:11,980 about trying to change the past in ancient mythology. 359 00:20:11,980 --> 00:20:15,190 Time travel stories, stories about changing the past, 360 00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:18,690 they really only appear in modern times. 361 00:20:18,690 --> 00:20:23,610 It is because in the past, we believed in fate, 362 00:20:23,610 --> 00:20:25,870 and it's only in modern times 363 00:20:25,870 --> 00:20:30,250 that the idea of free will became really popular. 364 00:20:30,250 --> 00:20:32,790 The first story in which you see a character 365 00:20:32,790 --> 00:20:35,670 who gets essentially a prophecy from the future 366 00:20:35,670 --> 00:20:38,000 and successfully avoids it 367 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,840 is in Charles Dickens' A Christmas Carol. 368 00:20:43,300 --> 00:20:45,970 In that story, Ebenezer Scrooge, 369 00:20:45,970 --> 00:20:49,100 he is shown a vision of his future 370 00:20:49,100 --> 00:20:52,310 by the ghost of Christmases yet to come. 371 00:20:52,310 --> 00:20:56,480 He sees that he will die unmourned, 372 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,230 and he is horrified by the idea. 373 00:20:59,230 --> 00:21:01,070 What he is essentially asking is, 374 00:21:01,070 --> 00:21:02,610 do I have free will? 375 00:21:03,700 --> 00:21:05,150 Is my future fixed? 376 00:21:07,990 --> 00:21:10,790 My favorite was a Star Trek episode called 377 00:21:10,790 --> 00:21:14,500 City on the Edge of Forever, where Kirk and Spock 378 00:21:14,500 --> 00:21:17,380 go back in time and something has happened 379 00:21:17,380 --> 00:21:21,250 in the past to negate their whole reality, 380 00:21:21,250 --> 00:21:23,590 make it not actually have ever happened. 381 00:21:23,590 --> 00:21:27,890 So they have to undo it by finding that one event, 382 00:21:27,890 --> 00:21:29,550 that one thing that happened 383 00:21:32,140 --> 00:21:33,980 that changed the course of history. 384 00:21:33,980 --> 00:21:34,850 Spock. 385 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,560 If that is a doorway back through time, 386 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,860 could we somehow take Bones back a day in time, then... 387 00:21:44,860 --> 00:21:46,530 Relive the accident? 388 00:21:46,530 --> 00:21:49,620 Time travel is a fun storytelling device. 389 00:21:49,620 --> 00:21:52,950 So I think people like it for that. 390 00:21:52,950 --> 00:21:56,660 It spices up an otherwise dull story. 391 00:21:56,660 --> 00:21:58,250 You get fun paradoxes. 392 00:21:58,250 --> 00:22:00,420 You've seen things like Back to the Future 393 00:22:00,420 --> 00:22:03,300 where Marty starts to fade away 394 00:22:03,300 --> 00:22:05,720 because maybe he's gonna end up 395 00:22:07,090 --> 00:22:08,840 separating his parents or whatever. 396 00:22:09,890 --> 00:22:11,600 (man laughs) 397 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:12,430 George! 398 00:22:15,180 --> 00:22:16,810 Another way time travel 399 00:22:16,810 --> 00:22:21,480 has influenced pop culture is in video games. 400 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,570 For ages, I've been trapped here, 401 00:22:24,690 --> 00:22:26,990 counting hours like the sands of time. 402 00:22:26,990 --> 00:22:27,860 There's a lot of games that let you 403 00:22:27,860 --> 00:22:30,910 actually play with time directly, 404 00:22:30,910 --> 00:22:33,580 like Blinx, the time cat, time-traveling cat, 405 00:22:33,580 --> 00:22:38,540 and Prince of Persia, Sands of Time, and Braid. 406 00:22:38,540 --> 00:22:41,670 And, I mean, most of 'em deal with unwinding time, 407 00:22:41,670 --> 00:22:44,130 just going back in time and starting again. 408 00:22:44,130 --> 00:22:46,590 They don't deal with like the branching time, 409 00:22:46,590 --> 00:22:48,340 although some of 'em, like Super Time Force, 410 00:22:48,340 --> 00:22:51,300 is kind of like you experience time one way, 411 00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:53,050 you character does this, then you rewind, 412 00:22:53,050 --> 00:22:54,640 but that path is still happening 413 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,100 and then you can add to it and kind of layer in 414 00:22:57,100 --> 00:23:00,690 these characters from different time-spaces together. 415 00:23:00,690 --> 00:23:04,570 (electronic zapping) 416 00:23:04,570 --> 00:23:07,240 I mean, the simplest form, that rewinding of time, 417 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,110 is something you get used to 418 00:23:08,110 --> 00:23:09,820 with all software and all applications. 419 00:23:09,820 --> 00:23:11,950 You'd be like, I wanna undo this 420 00:23:11,950 --> 00:23:13,780 and I wanna undo this whole day. 421 00:23:13,780 --> 00:23:15,870 You know, you kind of wish you could rewind it. 422 00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:21,830 And try it again. 423 00:23:21,830 --> 00:23:25,000 Of course, that's why I'll have to it yesterday. 424 00:23:26,130 --> 00:23:28,550 To the time machine. 425 00:23:33,140 --> 00:23:34,850 In Day of the Tentacle, 426 00:23:34,850 --> 00:23:37,350 Fred Edison, the mad scientist, 427 00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:40,020 has these two tentacle kind of creatures 428 00:23:40,020 --> 00:23:41,980 that are like octopus tentacles that hop around 429 00:23:41,980 --> 00:23:44,060 and they don't have any bodies, they're just tentacles. 430 00:23:44,060 --> 00:23:45,520 And one of them drinks toxic sludge 431 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,530 and becomes super intelligent and grows little arms 432 00:23:48,530 --> 00:23:49,570 and decides to take over the world. 433 00:23:49,570 --> 00:23:53,030 Take on the world! 434 00:23:53,030 --> 00:23:54,950 The kids arrive back at the mansion 435 00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:56,780 and accidentally set them free, 436 00:23:56,780 --> 00:23:58,790 and you know they did take over the world 437 00:23:58,790 --> 00:24:01,330 because 200 years in the future, 438 00:24:01,330 --> 00:24:02,750 when your characters travels to that time 439 00:24:02,750 --> 00:24:04,040 and finds the world taken over by tentacles 440 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,790 and the tentacles are running kind of a Planet of the Apes. 441 00:24:06,790 --> 00:24:07,630 Yikes. 442 00:24:07,630 --> 00:24:09,510 (gunfire) 443 00:24:12,590 --> 00:24:14,470 I think of time travel in science fiction 444 00:24:14,470 --> 00:24:16,390 as like a can of worms. 445 00:24:17,390 --> 00:24:20,100 Like, it's a science fiction trope. 446 00:24:20,100 --> 00:24:21,890 There's countless examples, 447 00:24:21,890 --> 00:24:24,770 and people have done it a million different ways, 448 00:24:24,770 --> 00:24:26,610 and that's great. 449 00:24:26,610 --> 00:24:30,110 But if you're going to bring in time travel, 450 00:24:30,110 --> 00:24:32,650 you better have a really good reason, right? 451 00:24:32,650 --> 00:24:35,700 Because you are automatically introducing 452 00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:37,450 a mind-bending concept 453 00:24:37,450 --> 00:24:39,870 that people are gonna have to puzzle out. 454 00:24:39,870 --> 00:24:41,200 Well, you're playing really fast and loose 455 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,960 with the logic of it 'cause if you think too much 456 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,750 about the logic of time travel, 457 00:24:44,750 --> 00:24:46,250 you usually write yourself into a hole 458 00:24:46,250 --> 00:24:48,290 where like it doesn't make any sense. 459 00:24:48,290 --> 00:24:50,670 And if you're making a movie, you have this advantage of 460 00:24:50,670 --> 00:24:52,840 we'll just make a lot of action happen in that part 461 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,840 and no one will think about, hey, wait a second, 462 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:55,680 should that have not, 463 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,010 that person couldn't have done that 464 00:24:57,010 --> 00:24:58,390 'cause if they had done that, 465 00:24:58,390 --> 00:25:01,020 they wouldn't have been alive to do this other thing. 466 00:25:01,020 --> 00:25:01,930 And if you think about that stuff, 467 00:25:01,930 --> 00:25:03,310 they usually get into the circular logic 468 00:25:03,310 --> 00:25:04,230 that makes it impossible. 469 00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:06,560 So you just have an explosion and people run 470 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,860 and then no one has any time to, 471 00:25:07,860 --> 00:25:09,940 if you keep the plot moving fast enough, 472 00:25:09,940 --> 00:25:13,240 people don't think about all the time travel paradoxes. 473 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,280 Time travel can generally be categorized 474 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,240 into three theories. 475 00:25:22,700 --> 00:25:26,000 One of them is the dynamic timeline, 476 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:31,000 also sometimes referred to as the butterfly effect, 477 00:25:31,630 --> 00:25:35,220 where even the smallest changes in the past 478 00:25:35,220 --> 00:25:37,970 can have a huge impact in the future. 479 00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:43,310 In this world, strange contradictions can happen, 480 00:25:43,310 --> 00:25:46,060 like the grandfather paradox. 481 00:25:46,060 --> 00:25:47,980 Here's a puzzle about time travel. 482 00:25:47,980 --> 00:25:49,060 If you went back in time 483 00:25:49,060 --> 00:25:51,320 and you met someone who really is your grandfather, 484 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,400 could you or could you not kill your grandfather? 485 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,440 It seems like you could 'cause you got the gun, 486 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,950 nobody's stopping you, and it seems like you couldn't 487 00:25:57,950 --> 00:25:59,870 because if you did, you would never have existed. 488 00:25:59,870 --> 00:26:01,530 But if that is true, then where did I come from 489 00:26:01,530 --> 00:26:03,120 to have gone back and killed him? 490 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:04,910 Who is this time traveler? 491 00:26:04,910 --> 00:26:08,710 Another theory is the fixed timeline. 492 00:26:08,710 --> 00:26:12,460 No matter how much you try to change the past, 493 00:26:12,460 --> 00:26:15,630 it's essentially locked in time. 494 00:26:15,630 --> 00:26:19,390 Call it destiny or fate, in this world, 495 00:26:19,390 --> 00:26:24,220 the time traveler was meant to travel through history. 496 00:26:24,220 --> 00:26:25,220 That actually illustrates 497 00:26:25,220 --> 00:26:26,600 another fun thing about time travel, 498 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,020 the possibility of closed loops of information. 499 00:26:30,020 --> 00:26:31,520 So here's a time travel story. 500 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,730 I go back in time and I teach my earlier self 501 00:26:33,730 --> 00:26:35,190 how to build a time machine 502 00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:37,320 and then I have the time machine 503 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,200 and I know how to make the time machine, 504 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,240 so then I get in the time machine 505 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,620 and go back in time and teach myself how to make it. 506 00:26:43,620 --> 00:26:45,120 Where did the information 507 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:47,040 about how to make the time machine come from? 508 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,420 It doesn't come from anywhere, it's just a loop. 509 00:26:49,420 --> 00:26:53,000 And the third theory is the multiverse, 510 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,090 which opens up infinite scenarios, 511 00:26:56,090 --> 00:27:01,090 like multiple realities and alternate worlds. 512 00:27:01,340 --> 00:27:04,890 This means that for every decision that you make, 513 00:27:04,890 --> 00:27:07,270 there is going to be a split in the universe 514 00:27:07,270 --> 00:27:09,640 in which all the alternatives play out. 515 00:27:10,650 --> 00:27:12,860 This is actually based on a real scientific theory 516 00:27:12,860 --> 00:27:14,650 called the many worlds theory. 517 00:27:14,650 --> 00:27:17,490 Quantum mechanics says that you can't predict 518 00:27:17,490 --> 00:27:20,740 exactly what happens next, and this leads to the fact 519 00:27:20,740 --> 00:27:23,280 that the universe may play out 520 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,580 all the alternatives but just in parallel. 521 00:27:27,580 --> 00:27:29,330 But if this is true, 522 00:27:29,330 --> 00:27:31,460 if millions of universes 523 00:27:31,460 --> 00:27:35,500 playing out endless possibilities exist, 524 00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:38,210 then there must be a universe 525 00:27:38,210 --> 00:27:40,970 where the multiverse does not exist, 526 00:27:40,970 --> 00:27:44,050 and that in itself is a paradox. 527 00:27:49,020 --> 00:27:50,390 There are more serious reasons 528 00:27:50,390 --> 00:27:53,020 to be interested in time travel 529 00:27:53,020 --> 00:27:55,110 because of how time travel connects 530 00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:56,820 to a lot of different topics. 531 00:27:56,820 --> 00:27:59,030 So maybe I'll just give two examples. 532 00:27:59,030 --> 00:28:01,900 One is time travel connects to general questions 533 00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:03,160 in the philosophy of time. 534 00:28:04,450 --> 00:28:05,370 Like, for example, 535 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,830 if time is like space, then objects in the past 536 00:28:08,830 --> 00:28:10,910 and the objects in the future are real. 537 00:28:10,910 --> 00:28:13,290 They're just as real as objects in the present. 538 00:28:14,580 --> 00:28:15,420 And you might think, well, 539 00:28:15,420 --> 00:28:16,790 if you can travel to other places in space, 540 00:28:16,790 --> 00:28:19,210 why couldn't you travel to other places in time? 541 00:28:20,130 --> 00:28:21,840 Time travel connects to free will. 542 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,760 So what does it meant to be free to do something? 543 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:26,640 Since questions of, 544 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,060 what would a time traveler be free to do? 545 00:28:29,060 --> 00:28:31,680 Would a time traveler be free to kill 546 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,730 his or her earlier self, kill his or her grandparents? 547 00:28:35,730 --> 00:28:38,650 That then bears on questions on free will. 548 00:28:38,650 --> 00:28:39,440 Why are we here? 549 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,360 Actually, the question's invalid. 550 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,190 There is no why. 551 00:28:42,190 --> 00:28:45,160 Why do you assume there's a why that we're here? 552 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,570 We shouldn't be asking that question. 553 00:28:46,570 --> 00:28:49,870 And that makes me think of a lot of things about, 554 00:28:49,870 --> 00:28:53,460 is our perception of time kind of what tripping us up 555 00:28:53,460 --> 00:28:55,830 and making us think that time travel is possible? 556 00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:58,750 It's this way that we're experiencing this world, 557 00:28:58,750 --> 00:29:02,260 and we think of time because we read history books and stuff 558 00:29:02,260 --> 00:29:04,050 that bring the past to life. 559 00:29:04,050 --> 00:29:06,340 It seems like a place we should be able to go, 560 00:29:06,340 --> 00:29:09,050 and we can recreate it in movies and games and stuff. 561 00:29:09,050 --> 00:29:09,890 We should be able to go there, 562 00:29:09,890 --> 00:29:12,730 but is it some mistake we're making in our minds 563 00:29:12,730 --> 00:29:13,560 that even allows us to conceive 564 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,190 of the possibility of time travel? 565 00:29:19,690 --> 00:29:22,280 Eastern religions and philosophies 566 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:27,280 like Hinduism and Buddhism have a different perspective, 567 00:29:27,530 --> 00:29:31,740 that time is an illusion and a figment of the mind. 568 00:32:02,190 --> 00:32:05,650 Time to me is an illusion that has purpose. 569 00:32:05,650 --> 00:32:07,070 It's all in one line. 570 00:32:07,070 --> 00:32:08,980 I think the past, the present, and the future 571 00:32:08,980 --> 00:32:11,240 is all like one line. 572 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,990 I think we're just focused in the present. 573 00:32:14,990 --> 00:32:17,490 But if we're open-minded, 574 00:32:17,490 --> 00:32:20,040 if we can expand ourselves to that thought, 575 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,120 you can go back and you can go forward. 576 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,620 Anyone can do this. 577 00:32:23,620 --> 00:32:26,880 Oh, I totally consider that every time I mediate. 578 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,460 Where am I going when I mediate? 579 00:32:29,380 --> 00:32:33,680 Opening up to a different time of space, a different thing. 580 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,390 You want this experience that you've died, 581 00:32:36,390 --> 00:32:38,760 but then you're moving on into this other life, 582 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,850 and how does that look? 583 00:32:40,850 --> 00:32:42,640 And that's traveling back in time. 584 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,060 You could be going forward, you could be going back. 585 00:32:45,060 --> 00:32:48,900 You're not really knowing where you're going to land. 586 00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:50,690 You can go back in time 587 00:32:50,690 --> 00:32:52,780 in terms of past lives and so forth. 588 00:32:52,780 --> 00:32:54,450 That would literally going back in time, 589 00:32:54,450 --> 00:32:57,700 which we can do or at least see, 590 00:32:57,700 --> 00:33:01,580 and then going into the future, and that's also time travel, 591 00:33:01,580 --> 00:33:02,750 and that's the way I look at it 592 00:33:02,750 --> 00:33:07,290 because you can go back and forward in time. 593 00:33:09,420 --> 00:33:11,670 If you look at the indigenous people, 594 00:33:11,670 --> 00:33:15,680 the shamans of their time, they were traveling. 595 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:20,600 That was kind of their job, from a healing perspective. 596 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,270 So the shamans would go into other realms, 597 00:33:23,270 --> 00:33:26,520 be it past, be it present, be it future, 598 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,860 to bring back what they needed for the people 599 00:33:28,860 --> 00:33:30,860 or for that individual person. 600 00:33:30,860 --> 00:33:32,990 And so that to me is a form of time travel. 601 00:33:34,820 --> 00:33:36,320 If you're looking at the people, 602 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,910 at the time, you don't know. 603 00:33:37,910 --> 00:33:40,580 They're still there, but they're not there. 604 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,870 As a kid, I always, always considered 605 00:33:46,870 --> 00:33:48,880 reading to be a form of time travel. 606 00:33:50,380 --> 00:33:52,670 Anytime I was in a situation that I didn't like 607 00:33:52,670 --> 00:33:55,420 or if I was bored or anything, 608 00:33:55,420 --> 00:33:57,220 I would have a book with me 609 00:33:57,220 --> 00:33:59,140 and I would stick my nose into it, 610 00:33:59,140 --> 00:34:01,970 and then I'd looked up later and be in a different place, 611 00:34:01,970 --> 00:34:05,100 and I always considered it a form of perceptual time travel. 612 00:34:09,310 --> 00:34:11,520 Mentally, what you can do with your mind, 613 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,150 I mean, you can be somewhere and actually feel it. 614 00:34:15,150 --> 00:34:18,280 So you really won't need to almost I think 615 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,280 be there physically as long as you can feel it and sense it. 616 00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:26,910 I think people think of time travel 617 00:34:26,910 --> 00:34:30,250 more as an actual event outside themselves 618 00:34:30,250 --> 00:34:32,250 where they can do it, move their body, 619 00:34:32,250 --> 00:34:34,590 get into a machine, or whatever, 620 00:34:34,590 --> 00:34:38,680 when actually, you have to have an internal sense of self, 621 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,300 and when you have your internal self, 622 00:34:41,300 --> 00:34:43,060 then you're able to time travel. 623 00:34:43,060 --> 00:34:45,310 The past, future, anywhere you want to go, 624 00:34:45,310 --> 00:34:49,100 in your own mind, you will be able to do that internally. 625 00:34:54,690 --> 00:34:56,900 Time is a big issue in computer science 626 00:34:56,900 --> 00:34:59,240 'cause usually we care about how quickly 627 00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:00,530 we can solve a problem. 628 00:35:01,780 --> 00:35:06,290 My more unusual take and what I sort of bring to the table 629 00:35:06,290 --> 00:35:09,370 is the idea that time travel backwards is easy 630 00:35:09,370 --> 00:35:11,460 and time travel forwards is hard 631 00:35:11,460 --> 00:35:13,340 from the perspective of a computer. 632 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,880 Eric's work is on data structures, 633 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,840 which is a particular way to store and organize data 634 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,810 on a computer so it can be used efficiently. 635 00:35:25,810 --> 00:35:28,350 And so time, usually, a computer scientist 636 00:35:28,350 --> 00:35:31,400 thinks about the running time of a program. 637 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,310 It's like you start, it's one point, 638 00:35:33,310 --> 00:35:36,530 it's gonna run for a while, do a bunch of operations, 639 00:35:36,530 --> 00:35:38,150 and then at the end, it has your answer. 640 00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:40,780 The more computation you do, the more time it takes. 641 00:35:42,820 --> 00:35:45,410 At least the naive perspective is that space and time 642 00:35:45,410 --> 00:35:47,490 could be viewed as the same thing. 643 00:35:47,490 --> 00:35:49,660 It's just one more dimension, 644 00:35:49,660 --> 00:35:51,830 so the four dimensional view of space-time. 645 00:35:53,380 --> 00:35:55,000 It's certainly very useful geometrically. 646 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,550 We actually use that a lot in geometry. 647 00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:59,630 We think about moving objects or folding objects, 648 00:35:59,630 --> 00:36:00,470 things like that. 649 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,970 It's appealing from also a time travel perspective 650 00:36:05,970 --> 00:36:08,310 because if you think of time as just another dimension, 651 00:36:08,310 --> 00:36:10,600 then why not go backwards? 652 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,060 With retroactive data structures, you can go back in time, 653 00:36:13,060 --> 00:36:16,650 say, right at the beginning of time and say actually, 654 00:36:16,650 --> 00:36:18,570 I meant to put at time minus one, 655 00:36:18,570 --> 00:36:20,530 I meant to do, you know, insert. 656 00:36:20,530 --> 00:36:21,780 I wanna go back in time to do this 657 00:36:21,780 --> 00:36:23,160 and then return to the present, 658 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,570 and say, what's my data structure look like now? 659 00:36:25,570 --> 00:36:29,040 The idea in retroactive data structures is 660 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,710 you're storing some data in a database, 661 00:36:31,710 --> 00:36:34,830 like maybe all the bank transactions at your bank, 662 00:36:34,830 --> 00:36:37,290 and various operations happen over time. 663 00:36:37,290 --> 00:36:40,960 There's a deposit, a withdrawal at various times of the day. 664 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,340 And then you'd like to at the end of the day say, 665 00:36:43,340 --> 00:36:45,510 oh, actually, there was a mistake. 666 00:36:45,510 --> 00:36:48,010 That withdraw was invalid. 667 00:36:48,010 --> 00:36:50,430 I'd like to undo that operation in the past. 668 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,100 And so this is like the ability to time travel. 669 00:36:54,100 --> 00:36:55,940 You'd like to go back in time, 670 00:36:55,940 --> 00:36:58,480 and what you'd like is for all the ramifications 671 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,940 of that change to propagate forward, 672 00:37:01,940 --> 00:37:03,070 and we're thinking in some sense 673 00:37:03,070 --> 00:37:05,070 how to simulate time travel. 674 00:37:05,070 --> 00:37:08,030 But if you look at it the right way, 675 00:37:08,910 --> 00:37:12,040 the things that we prove about how to simulate time travel 676 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,250 actually relate to how the universe might time travel. 677 00:37:15,250 --> 00:37:17,790 At least in computer science, 678 00:37:17,790 --> 00:37:19,290 we have a very computational perspective. 679 00:37:19,290 --> 00:37:21,260 We think of the universe as a computer. 680 00:37:23,260 --> 00:37:25,180 We proved that in general 681 00:37:25,180 --> 00:37:28,220 it's impossible to time travel forward 682 00:37:28,220 --> 00:37:30,470 any quicker than we do it now. 683 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,020 It takes a lot of work to simulate physics 684 00:37:35,020 --> 00:37:36,730 and to make all this stuff happen. 685 00:37:36,730 --> 00:37:40,270 And so if we were to go back in time and make a change, 686 00:37:40,270 --> 00:37:41,940 that's actually pretty reasonable. 687 00:37:41,940 --> 00:37:45,320 You can prove, in computer science land at least, 688 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,030 that it's not too hard in theory 689 00:37:48,030 --> 00:37:49,990 for the universe to remember the past, 690 00:37:49,990 --> 00:37:52,580 to remember all the things that happened before us. 691 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,540 So it's plausible to me 692 00:37:56,540 --> 00:37:59,420 as a computer scientist ignoring physics 693 00:37:59,420 --> 00:38:00,630 that we could just say, all right, 694 00:38:00,630 --> 00:38:02,460 I wanna to go back one millennia 695 00:38:02,460 --> 00:38:04,260 and see what the universe was like. 696 00:38:06,470 --> 00:38:07,720 It's conceivable the universe 697 00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:10,050 could implement that quickly, efficiently, 698 00:38:10,050 --> 00:38:12,930 and that can be an instantaneous thing to go back in time. 699 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,060 A more realistic way 700 00:38:16,060 --> 00:38:18,400 we can experience time travel 701 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,730 is something that we've been doing for centuries. 702 00:38:21,730 --> 00:38:25,570 Astronomers have been studying the cosmos over the years, 703 00:38:25,570 --> 00:38:27,860 and through every telescope, 704 00:38:27,860 --> 00:38:30,780 they've been peering into the past. 705 00:38:33,740 --> 00:38:36,790 The SETI Institute was founded in 1984, 706 00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:38,420 and the intention was to set up 707 00:38:38,420 --> 00:38:41,040 some sort of nonprofit research organization 708 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,540 that would be concerned with the question 709 00:38:42,540 --> 00:38:44,250 of life beyond Earth. 710 00:38:49,010 --> 00:38:50,890 Time is really an important concept 711 00:38:50,890 --> 00:38:53,720 when you're talking about looking for life elsewhere. 712 00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:57,680 The Earth has been here for roughly 4 and 1/2 billion years. 713 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,810 It's had life for most of that. 714 00:39:00,690 --> 00:39:02,980 It's only had intelligent life, homo sapiens, 715 00:39:02,980 --> 00:39:05,400 we've only had that for the last 200,000 years. 716 00:39:06,490 --> 00:39:09,570 The universe is three times as old as the Earth. 717 00:39:09,570 --> 00:39:12,160 So these time scales give you some idea 718 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,990 that there could be a lot of life out that 719 00:39:13,990 --> 00:39:16,750 that's billions of years more advanced than we are. 720 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,250 But when you talk of time travel, 721 00:39:20,250 --> 00:39:24,420 well, that offers up all sorts of intriguing possibilities. 722 00:39:24,420 --> 00:39:28,670 For example, could we be visited by beings from the future? 723 00:39:28,670 --> 00:39:29,760 Pick up the more sensitive, 724 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:30,680 I mean, it's more sensitive. 725 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,430 You can see much fainter signals if you have a big antenna. 726 00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:39,890 This is the antenna we're using these days. 727 00:39:40,980 --> 00:39:43,900 Here at the institute, we don't really worry too much 728 00:39:43,900 --> 00:39:46,900 about time travel, even though in some sense 729 00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:48,030 we take advantage of it. 730 00:39:48,030 --> 00:39:49,650 I mean, when we point our antennas 731 00:39:49,650 --> 00:39:52,860 at some star system 1,000 light years away, 732 00:39:52,860 --> 00:39:53,870 and we occasionally do that, 733 00:39:53,870 --> 00:39:55,830 I mean, we're trying to pick up a signal and find out 734 00:39:55,830 --> 00:39:57,080 is there somebody there, 735 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,410 somebody there that's clever enough 736 00:39:58,410 --> 00:40:00,000 to build a radio transmitter. 737 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,540 Well, clearly, if we were to pick up a signal, 738 00:40:02,540 --> 00:40:05,630 that signal took 1,000 years to get here. 739 00:40:05,630 --> 00:40:08,880 So in a sense, we would be looking back in time. 740 00:40:11,300 --> 00:40:12,130 When you look at the moon, 741 00:40:12,130 --> 00:40:13,470 you're not seeing the moon as it is now. 742 00:40:13,470 --> 00:40:15,100 Of course, you're seeing it the way it was 743 00:40:15,100 --> 00:40:17,890 about a second-and-a-half ago when the light left it. 744 00:40:17,890 --> 00:40:19,930 If you're looking at star systems for signals, 745 00:40:19,930 --> 00:40:22,980 it might be 10, 100 years, 1,000 years old. 746 00:40:22,980 --> 00:40:25,270 When you look at these distant galaxies, of course, 747 00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:26,730 you're looking at them the way they were 748 00:40:26,730 --> 00:40:27,570 10 billion years ago. 749 00:40:27,570 --> 00:40:29,690 So, in a sense, just by looking at them, 750 00:40:29,690 --> 00:40:31,110 you're going back in time. 751 00:40:31,110 --> 00:40:33,070 It's like some sort of crystal ball, 752 00:40:33,070 --> 00:40:35,910 and you can look back billions of years, right? 753 00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:37,280 Now you're not actually going there, 754 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,120 but you see what the universe was like 755 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,710 when it was, if you will, just a kid. 756 00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:43,920 There's that kind of time travel. 757 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,330 We don't actually get in a machine, 758 00:40:45,330 --> 00:40:47,590 pull a lever, and go back 10 billion years. 759 00:40:47,590 --> 00:40:50,260 But we can see into the past, 760 00:40:50,260 --> 00:40:51,130 and so in that sense, 761 00:40:51,130 --> 00:40:53,180 astronomers are always dealing with time travel. 762 00:40:58,050 --> 00:40:59,680 To some extent, the interest in time travel 763 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,230 is an appeal to a kind of immortality. 764 00:41:03,230 --> 00:41:04,390 Me being able to travel in time 765 00:41:04,390 --> 00:41:05,980 doesn't mean that you're immortal. 766 00:41:05,980 --> 00:41:07,520 But maybe you want to know 767 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,610 how your great-great-great-great grandkids are doing, 768 00:41:09,610 --> 00:41:10,610 if there are any, right? 769 00:41:10,610 --> 00:41:11,400 And what are they like? 770 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,950 And does anybody ever remember your existence? 771 00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:19,660 There's one more possibility for time travel 772 00:41:19,660 --> 00:41:23,330 that some of my colleagues have actually decided to use, 773 00:41:23,330 --> 00:41:26,420 and that is get yourself frozen. 774 00:41:26,420 --> 00:41:30,130 Put yourself in some sort of refrigerated unit when you die, 775 00:41:30,130 --> 00:41:31,920 and then sometime in the future 776 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,550 when they figure out how to reverse all the damage 777 00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:37,470 that was caused to your body because of the freezing, 778 00:41:37,470 --> 00:41:38,640 they'll bring you back. 779 00:41:40,060 --> 00:41:42,470 The possibility of life after death is explored 780 00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:45,480 in Phoenix, Arizona by the Cryonic Society. 781 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,400 They believe that cryo-biology, 782 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,230 the freezing of biological matter, is the answer. 783 00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:53,610 They propose freezing bodies in cold storage capsules. 784 00:41:53,610 --> 00:41:55,450 Scientists are mostly skeptical. 785 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,660 Cryonics is human cryopreservation, 786 00:42:03,660 --> 00:42:06,500 which means that we are using using low temperatures 787 00:42:06,500 --> 00:42:10,540 to preserve a person who is no longer treatable 788 00:42:10,540 --> 00:42:15,540 by contemporary medicine in as pristine a state as possible 789 00:42:16,510 --> 00:42:18,430 such that they can reach a time 790 00:42:18,430 --> 00:42:20,220 that maybe medical technology 791 00:42:20,220 --> 00:42:24,470 can not only reverse the cryopreservation procedure 792 00:42:24,470 --> 00:42:27,390 but can also cure whatever caused their death 793 00:42:27,390 --> 00:42:28,400 in the first place. 794 00:42:31,940 --> 00:42:33,940 That's a tall order, obviously. 795 00:42:33,940 --> 00:42:35,990 That's the thing everyone wants to see. 796 00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:38,450 But it's gonna take a really long time 797 00:42:38,450 --> 00:42:42,080 and a lot of incremental progress towards that goal, 798 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,740 but that progress is definitely being made right now. 799 00:42:46,410 --> 00:42:48,540 There's a lot of speculation among cryonicists 800 00:42:48,540 --> 00:42:52,500 about why people don't sign up 801 00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:56,550 when they would not turn down CPR, for example. 802 00:42:56,550 --> 00:42:57,880 To us, it's kinda the same thing. 803 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,260 It's just an extension of modern medicine 804 00:43:00,260 --> 00:43:02,180 and a life-saving technique. 805 00:43:02,180 --> 00:43:04,140 The biggest issue I think people have 806 00:43:04,140 --> 00:43:07,850 is a psychological barrier to what we like to call 807 00:43:07,850 --> 00:43:11,350 the temporal difference between the time you're stabilized 808 00:43:11,350 --> 00:43:13,730 and the potential time you're resuscitated. 809 00:43:15,110 --> 00:43:16,780 That's a huge disconnect, 810 00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:22,070 because under normal circumstances in medicine, 811 00:43:22,070 --> 00:43:23,580 say you have a heart attack. 812 00:43:24,910 --> 00:43:26,450 If you are successfully resuscitated, 813 00:43:26,450 --> 00:43:28,370 it's going to be within a few minutes, 814 00:43:28,370 --> 00:43:30,250 and you haven't lost your friends or your family 815 00:43:30,250 --> 00:43:32,000 or your life continuity. 816 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,090 In cryonics, at least today, 817 00:43:34,090 --> 00:43:36,420 that is definitely not the case. 818 00:43:36,420 --> 00:43:40,010 You don't know how long it's gonna be before you're back. 819 00:43:44,220 --> 00:43:46,060 This is one of my favorite things to think about 820 00:43:46,060 --> 00:43:48,220 because I think everyone agrees 821 00:43:48,220 --> 00:43:52,730 that it would subjectively feel very much like time travel. 822 00:43:57,730 --> 00:44:00,070 You're going to be taking healthy people, 823 00:44:00,070 --> 00:44:02,570 not people who are dying for any particular reason, 824 00:44:02,570 --> 00:44:06,580 and applying this reversible suspended animation technology 825 00:44:06,580 --> 00:44:08,580 to put them into suspension 826 00:44:08,580 --> 00:44:12,370 and then take them out of it at will. 827 00:44:12,370 --> 00:44:15,380 The concepts don't exist for the same purpose, 828 00:44:15,380 --> 00:44:16,920 but they are extremely similar. 829 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,920 A model demonstrates how one person, 830 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,720 a California man who died of cancer, 831 00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:23,470 has already been frozen. 832 00:44:23,470 --> 00:44:25,970 A freezing liquid replaces the blood supply, 833 00:44:25,970 --> 00:44:28,310 and the subject is wrapped in aluminum foil 834 00:44:28,310 --> 00:44:30,100 and placed in a capsule at 200... 835 00:44:30,100 --> 00:44:32,060 Cryonics itself is a newer concept, 836 00:44:32,060 --> 00:44:35,520 but I think we all know that mankind 837 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,940 has long had the desire 838 00:44:37,940 --> 00:44:41,570 to either live a longer life 839 00:44:41,570 --> 00:44:43,240 or live forever. 840 00:44:44,410 --> 00:44:48,450 We've always wanted to push the limits of our lifespan, 841 00:44:48,450 --> 00:44:51,710 and now that we're actually starting to do so, 842 00:44:51,710 --> 00:44:56,710 it seems like we've whetted that taste a little more. 843 00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:58,750 We want more. 844 00:45:04,550 --> 00:45:07,720 Realistically, I think time travel is pretty unlikely. 845 00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:10,060 But I'd like to entertain the possibility 846 00:45:10,060 --> 00:45:11,730 that it's possible because I think 847 00:45:11,730 --> 00:45:14,100 it's more fun to imagine a world 848 00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:18,690 in which things like time travel could happen someday. 849 00:45:18,690 --> 00:45:22,070 (keyboard keys clicking) 850 00:45:24,780 --> 00:45:26,780 The problem is not the technology. 851 00:45:26,780 --> 00:45:29,330 The problem is always the physics. 852 00:45:29,330 --> 00:45:30,660 If the physics doesn't allow, 853 00:45:30,660 --> 00:45:33,000 or maybe the physics does allow it 854 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,370 but you don't know how to do it, 855 00:45:34,370 --> 00:45:35,540 then you really can't build it. 856 00:45:35,540 --> 00:45:38,960 (keyboard keys clicking) 857 00:45:42,090 --> 00:45:45,840 When you see that the whole universe will end 858 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,350 before time travel is allowed, 859 00:45:49,350 --> 00:45:53,100 it made me think that maybe the laws of physics 860 00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:55,190 are conspiring to prevent this. 861 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,100 Though there are many ways 862 00:45:58,100 --> 00:46:01,480 to consider time travel, physicists, 863 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,940 the ones who work with space and time, 864 00:46:03,940 --> 00:46:06,860 the ones who could have the final answer, 865 00:46:06,860 --> 00:46:08,780 don't think it's possible. 866 00:46:10,660 --> 00:46:12,080 I would be pretty surprised 867 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,580 if anyone was currently proposing an experiment 868 00:46:15,580 --> 00:46:18,420 which would hope to indicate 869 00:46:18,420 --> 00:46:21,250 that backward in time time travel was possible. 870 00:46:21,250 --> 00:46:23,420 I would be surprised by that. 871 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,110 I've been working on the subject of time travel 872 00:46:42,110 --> 00:46:45,690 for several decades, ever since I was 11 years old 873 00:46:45,690 --> 00:46:48,400 and I became aware of the whole notion 874 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,870 that time travel and the time machine might be possible, 875 00:46:51,870 --> 00:46:53,910 and it started out as a fantasy, 876 00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:57,460 and I learned the real science behind it, Einstein's theory. 877 00:47:02,090 --> 00:47:04,590 The first 10 years of my life were very, very happy. 878 00:47:04,590 --> 00:47:06,510 I came from a very loving family. 879 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,840 And I was the oldest of four children, 880 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,300 and I grew up in the Bronx. 881 00:47:12,300 --> 00:47:14,350 My father was a television repairman. 882 00:47:18,270 --> 00:47:20,770 And he was very, very good at his craft. 883 00:47:20,770 --> 00:47:23,230 The thing is, is that he looked healthy. 884 00:47:23,230 --> 00:47:25,820 We didn't know that he had a very weak heart, 885 00:47:25,820 --> 00:47:28,780 and he died unexpectedly of a massive heart attack, 886 00:47:28,780 --> 00:47:32,820 and for me, it was like the death of Superman, 887 00:47:32,820 --> 00:47:33,990 because here was this person 888 00:47:33,990 --> 00:47:37,200 who seemed to me to be indestructible, and now he was gone. 889 00:47:38,370 --> 00:47:40,080 The shock to me was something 890 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,170 that I've never experienced anything like it since. 891 00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:48,880 My world just fell completely apart. 892 00:47:51,630 --> 00:47:53,600 The thing is, is I went into a depression, 893 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,560 actually, as a child, 894 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,640 and I'm not sure what would've happened to me 895 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,140 if I didn't have, 896 00:48:00,140 --> 00:48:02,440 one of the gifts he gave me was love for reading, 897 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:03,940 and I love reading science fiction. 898 00:48:03,940 --> 00:48:06,190 About a year after he died, when I was 11, 899 00:48:06,190 --> 00:48:09,240 I came across HG Wells's book The Time Machine. 900 00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:12,110 Actually, it was the Classics Illustrated version of that. 901 00:48:14,370 --> 00:48:15,490 It changed my life 902 00:48:15,490 --> 00:48:17,790 because at the very beginning of it said 903 00:48:17,790 --> 00:48:20,040 scientific people know very well 904 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,120 that time is just a kind of space 905 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,460 and we can move forward or backward in time 906 00:48:24,460 --> 00:48:26,590 just as we can in space. 907 00:48:26,590 --> 00:48:27,840 And when I read that, 908 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,300 it was like this is the answer for me. 909 00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:34,840 If I can build a time machine, 910 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,140 then I could go back into the past and see him again 911 00:48:37,140 --> 00:48:39,310 and maybe change things. 912 00:48:39,310 --> 00:48:43,650 That became my saving. 913 00:48:43,650 --> 00:48:45,360 That was it, that was my life preserver. 914 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:46,650 That was the thing that saved me, 915 00:48:46,650 --> 00:48:49,860 and I developed a passion for that. 916 00:48:49,860 --> 00:48:53,610 The questions is, is that, how was I going to achieve that? 917 00:48:56,950 --> 00:48:59,910 This Classics Illustrated had a picture 918 00:48:59,910 --> 00:49:03,210 about of what the time machine would look like, 919 00:49:03,210 --> 00:49:05,460 and I decided to try to do this 920 00:49:05,460 --> 00:49:10,170 based on putting together bicycle parts and everything 921 00:49:10,170 --> 00:49:12,050 to try to do that, and, of course, it didn't work. 922 00:49:12,050 --> 00:49:14,630 I even used some of my father's equipment 923 00:49:14,630 --> 00:49:15,840 my mother had kept. 924 00:49:19,010 --> 00:49:21,180 I was disappointed but not discouraged 925 00:49:21,180 --> 00:49:24,060 because it said scientific people know very well, and that, 926 00:49:24,060 --> 00:49:27,980 when I look back now, I realize just how important 927 00:49:27,980 --> 00:49:30,690 that phrase in the book was because it meant 928 00:49:30,690 --> 00:49:34,240 there was a distinction between the fantasy of something 929 00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:38,070 and the reality of something, and that reality was science. 930 00:49:42,370 --> 00:49:46,120 I went to Penn State as a physics major, 931 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,460 but I didn't tell any of the people 932 00:49:48,460 --> 00:49:49,540 what I was interested in. 933 00:49:49,540 --> 00:49:53,420 I kept this as a secret because, even as a child, 934 00:49:53,420 --> 00:49:56,430 I knew number one that people were already worried about me, 935 00:49:56,430 --> 00:50:01,140 and I thought this is probably not going to be a good idea 936 00:50:01,140 --> 00:50:03,560 to tell them I was interested in building a time machine. 937 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,270 So I didn't tell them, anyone about it. 938 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,940 And when I went to college, I still realized 939 00:50:09,940 --> 00:50:12,730 that this was not something that I should talk about. 940 00:50:12,730 --> 00:50:17,160 And certainly, when I eventually came to be interviewed 941 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,700 at the University of Connecticut physics department, 942 00:50:19,700 --> 00:50:22,870 I knew it would be instant suicide if I said, 943 00:50:22,870 --> 00:50:25,120 oh, by the way, what I want to do 944 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,580 is to build a time machine. 945 00:50:26,580 --> 00:50:28,830 So then I kept all of that secret. 946 00:50:28,830 --> 00:50:33,830 But I did continually try to decide, is it possible? 947 00:50:34,090 --> 00:50:35,550 Is there a way that one could use 948 00:50:35,550 --> 00:50:38,630 Einstein's general theory of relativity in a way 949 00:50:38,630 --> 00:50:41,010 that might allow for the possibility? 950 00:50:41,010 --> 00:50:43,510 So that was always going on there. 951 00:50:48,770 --> 00:50:50,100 In the beginning, I was afraid 952 00:50:50,100 --> 00:50:51,610 of what my colleagues would think 953 00:50:51,610 --> 00:50:55,280 because physics is a conservative science. 954 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,910 I was afraid that they wouldn't take me seriously. 955 00:50:59,910 --> 00:51:03,080 I'm grateful of the fact that I'm now living in a time 956 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:07,040 in which my colleagues are much more open about these ideas. 957 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,540 Now it's just simply a matter 958 00:51:08,540 --> 00:51:12,540 of what sort of experiments can be done. 959 00:51:16,300 --> 00:51:19,470 Gravity is matter. 960 00:51:19,470 --> 00:51:24,430 In Einstein's theory, not only can matter affect gravity, 961 00:51:25,890 --> 00:51:29,190 but also energy can affect gravity. 962 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,230 Gravity can affect time. 963 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,110 Now light does not have mass, it's not matter, 964 00:51:39,110 --> 00:51:40,820 but light does have energy. 965 00:51:44,990 --> 00:51:49,250 So that means that light could create gravity. 966 00:51:49,250 --> 00:51:51,750 Thus, light could affect time. 967 00:51:53,790 --> 00:51:56,250 I've been able to theoretically show 968 00:51:56,250 --> 00:51:58,590 that by using a certain configuration of light, 969 00:51:58,590 --> 00:52:01,260 in particular, a circulating light beam, 970 00:52:01,260 --> 00:52:04,220 we can alter space, 971 00:52:04,220 --> 00:52:07,680 and that can lead us to alter space-time. 972 00:52:11,310 --> 00:52:15,270 Just showing that very first stage will be exciting and new. 973 00:52:23,490 --> 00:52:26,120 So this is much larger scale 974 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,410 than would be practical for an experiment. 975 00:52:28,410 --> 00:52:30,870 The actual experiment would be something that would be 976 00:52:30,870 --> 00:52:34,380 squeezed down to about the size of a human hair. 977 00:52:34,380 --> 00:52:35,960 The energies might not be achievable, 978 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,840 but it's an engineering problem. 979 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,300 It's like trying flying. 980 00:52:40,380 --> 00:52:41,970 It was very, very difficult. 981 00:52:41,970 --> 00:52:43,050 We didn't achieve flight 982 00:52:43,050 --> 00:52:45,470 until the beginning of the 20th century, okay. 983 00:52:45,470 --> 00:52:48,220 (plane rumbling) 984 00:52:49,180 --> 00:52:52,140 And rocket travel later on in the century. 985 00:52:55,860 --> 00:52:58,270 For the first time in the laboratory, 986 00:52:58,270 --> 00:53:02,990 we will have been able to use light to manipulate space. 987 00:53:02,990 --> 00:53:07,410 These four lasers are creating a circulating light beam. 988 00:53:07,410 --> 00:53:09,620 That's one of the things that I'm looking at is, 989 00:53:09,620 --> 00:53:12,460 how we can send information back into the past? 990 00:53:12,460 --> 00:53:15,250 And I've actually looked at a practical way 991 00:53:15,250 --> 00:53:16,630 in which that could be done. 992 00:53:16,630 --> 00:53:18,130 Neutrons spin. 993 00:53:19,170 --> 00:53:21,420 If you have a neutron spinning up, 994 00:53:21,420 --> 00:53:22,670 you can assign a number to it. 995 00:53:22,670 --> 00:53:26,760 As a symbol, let's say I call a spinning neutron a one. 996 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,100 Suppose I call a spinning down neutron a zero. 997 00:53:30,100 --> 00:53:33,270 So I have a stream of neutrons, 998 00:53:33,270 --> 00:53:36,270 and spin up, spin up, spin down. 999 00:53:36,270 --> 00:53:37,900 What's that, that's binary code. 1000 00:53:37,900 --> 00:53:38,730 What will happen is, 1001 00:53:38,730 --> 00:53:41,780 is that as the empty space is being twisted, 1002 00:53:41,780 --> 00:53:44,070 it will actually twist the spin. 1003 00:53:44,070 --> 00:53:46,660 So by using neutrons, 1004 00:53:46,660 --> 00:53:50,910 I can actually send information back into the past 1005 00:53:50,910 --> 00:53:54,290 that could be decoded to give me information 1006 00:53:54,290 --> 00:53:56,540 about what is going to happen in the future. 1007 00:54:07,930 --> 00:54:10,390 Think of it as being an early warning device. 1008 00:54:10,390 --> 00:54:14,890 Imagine if we could warn ourselves of future disasters, 1009 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,400 for instance, hurricanes, tsunamis, 1010 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,610 like devastated Japan or the Hurricane Katrina, 1011 00:54:23,610 --> 00:54:26,780 the thousands of lives that could be saved 1012 00:54:26,780 --> 00:54:31,490 by having advanced information about the future. 1013 00:54:32,330 --> 00:54:35,830 Or suppose we could send information back to us 1014 00:54:35,830 --> 00:54:39,500 about cures that have happened in the future. 1015 00:54:39,500 --> 00:54:41,460 Okay, think how exciting that would be. 1016 00:54:43,630 --> 00:54:47,550 It took a long time, but it was worth it. 1017 00:54:47,550 --> 00:54:49,680 I mean, it has been worth it. 1018 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,470 And it's been a fantastic journey for me, 1019 00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:53,970 and it's still ongoing, 1020 00:54:53,970 --> 00:54:56,810 but I do know now that it can be done. 1021 00:54:56,810 --> 00:54:59,270 It's just going to be difficult. 1022 00:54:59,270 --> 00:55:00,100 But I also know 1023 00:55:00,100 --> 00:55:02,230 that there's some drawbacks associated with it, 1024 00:55:02,230 --> 00:55:04,440 that when you change things in the past, 1025 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,820 that can radically change things 1026 00:55:06,820 --> 00:55:10,030 in the present with unintended consequences. 1027 00:55:10,030 --> 00:55:12,910 If you have backward in time travel, 1028 00:55:12,910 --> 00:55:15,080 it's pretty hard to think of how to have 1029 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:19,580 a consistent picture of evolution, of time evolution, 1030 00:55:19,580 --> 00:55:22,380 or the laws of physics, which are consistent 1031 00:55:22,380 --> 00:55:23,460 when you evolve in time, 1032 00:55:23,460 --> 00:55:27,340 because if you can go forward in time and affect the past, 1033 00:55:27,340 --> 00:55:29,880 well, it makes it very complicated 1034 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,300 to know how you're gonna understand 1035 00:55:32,300 --> 00:55:36,520 how you move forward in time from where you are now. 1036 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,350 Because if I tell you, well, 1037 00:55:38,350 --> 00:55:39,890 if I know the present well enough 1038 00:55:39,890 --> 00:55:40,810 and I know the laws of physics, 1039 00:55:40,810 --> 00:55:43,400 I can predict what's going to happen in 10 minutes. 1040 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,940 But if you tell me in 10 minutes you may appear in my past, 1041 00:55:46,940 --> 00:55:48,570 well, then you may affect the present, 1042 00:55:48,570 --> 00:55:49,740 and then it's hard for me to know 1043 00:55:49,740 --> 00:55:52,200 what it's going to look like in 10 minutes. 1044 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,660 You have to remember that it's the device 1045 00:55:54,660 --> 00:55:57,450 that's creating this effect in time. 1046 00:55:57,450 --> 00:56:00,120 In my case, I'm talking about circulating light. 1047 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,120 But even if you're talking about wormholes 1048 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,500 or rotating black holes, 1049 00:56:04,500 --> 00:56:07,300 all of these processes start at some time, 1050 00:56:07,300 --> 00:56:10,380 which means that you can go back in time, 1051 00:56:10,380 --> 00:56:12,050 but you can only go back to the time 1052 00:56:12,050 --> 00:56:15,470 that the process itself was created. 1053 00:56:15,470 --> 00:56:17,970 And that would mean that the time machine 1054 00:56:17,970 --> 00:56:20,940 that I was talking about would have the limitation 1055 00:56:20,940 --> 00:56:22,980 of only being able to go back, for instance, 1056 00:56:22,980 --> 00:56:26,360 if you turn it on today and leave it on for a hundred years, 1057 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:27,860 someone a hundred years from now, 1058 00:56:27,860 --> 00:56:29,440 if you're leaving it on constantly, 1059 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,070 could travel back 75 years, 50 years, 1060 00:56:32,070 --> 00:56:35,410 all the way back up to the time the machine was turned on, 1061 00:56:35,410 --> 00:56:39,160 but you can't go earlier than that. 1062 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,420 That, I didn't even really realize 1063 00:56:42,420 --> 00:56:45,460 until I finally had solved the problem, 1064 00:56:45,460 --> 00:56:48,500 which meant that it was a barrier 1065 00:56:48,500 --> 00:56:50,970 to being able to go back and see my father. 1066 00:56:57,220 --> 00:56:59,640 I would like to have it happen in my lifetime, 1067 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:00,560 but once again, as I said, 1068 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,060 these are expensive things to occur. 1069 00:57:03,060 --> 00:57:05,980 But I do know that I've been helping to establish 1070 00:57:05,980 --> 00:57:08,020 the basis of it, so I know it is going to happen. 1071 00:57:08,020 --> 00:57:10,230 I believe it's going to happen in this century. 1072 00:57:10,230 --> 00:57:11,820 That, I definitely believe. 1073 00:57:15,950 --> 00:57:18,490 Dr. Ron Mallett isn't the only one 1074 00:57:18,490 --> 00:57:21,250 inspired by science fiction. 1075 00:57:21,250 --> 00:57:23,080 Over the past century, 1076 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:27,380 time travel has provided fertile ground for novelists, 1077 00:57:27,380 --> 00:57:31,590 storytellers, philosophers, as well as scientists, 1078 00:57:31,590 --> 00:57:34,180 as they explore the possibilities 1079 00:57:34,180 --> 00:57:37,800 of our universe and our place in it. 1080 00:57:40,140 --> 00:57:42,850 Good science fiction has to be based on good science. 1081 00:57:42,850 --> 00:57:44,480 I mean, I've always said that. 1082 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,400 And for me, science fiction's inspirational. 1083 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,980 And time travel is generally part of science fiction, 1084 00:57:49,980 --> 00:57:53,820 or the ability to overcome 1085 00:57:53,820 --> 00:57:56,990 what we currently believe are the constraints of nature. 1086 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,830 So many science fiction ideas have come to pass. 1087 00:58:02,830 --> 00:58:03,950 You can't help but wonder 1088 00:58:03,950 --> 00:58:05,710 if there's something we don't know. 1089 00:58:08,630 --> 00:58:10,630 So science allows people to fly. 1090 00:58:10,630 --> 00:58:13,380 It allows you to look inside of people without opening them. 1091 00:58:13,380 --> 00:58:14,760 It allows you to communicate with people 1092 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,300 on the other side of the Earth, 1093 00:58:18,010 --> 00:58:21,350 send images through space, which you can see. 1094 00:58:22,180 --> 00:58:23,930 And I think it's just imagination 1095 00:58:23,930 --> 00:58:25,680 which takes you to the next level. 1096 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,850 I mean, that's part of what science fiction is, 1097 00:58:28,850 --> 00:58:30,150 expanding the boundaries 1098 00:58:30,150 --> 00:58:32,900 of what's real in science to other domains. 1099 00:58:36,490 --> 00:58:38,530 I mean, it's I think in every scientist's nature 1100 00:58:38,530 --> 00:58:42,950 to be a skeptic and to question what we think is true, 1101 00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:45,960 and I think that science fiction is fun, 1102 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,210 but it also drives us to wonder about, well, 1103 00:58:49,210 --> 00:58:50,750 maybe this is possible. 1104 00:58:50,750 --> 00:58:52,800 It'd be really nice to have flying cars. 1105 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:54,550 It would be nice to have teleportation. 1106 00:58:54,550 --> 00:58:57,510 It would be nice to have faster than light travel. 1107 00:58:57,510 --> 00:58:59,260 It would be really nice to have time travel. 1108 00:58:59,260 --> 00:59:01,800 Science fiction is all around us. 1109 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,430 Most scientists are trying to make science fiction happen. 1110 00:59:04,430 --> 00:59:06,480 So that's a big driving force. 1111 00:59:10,350 --> 00:59:13,020 On the one hand, every scientist you meet 1112 00:59:13,020 --> 00:59:15,860 has been inspired by science fiction at some point, 1113 00:59:15,860 --> 00:59:20,360 and by seeing science fiction and sharing it culturally, 1114 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,830 by having pop culture icons 1115 00:59:22,830 --> 00:59:25,200 like Star Trek or even Terminator, 1116 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:30,170 it gives a culture a language to communicate ideas 1117 00:59:30,170 --> 00:59:32,460 that are for things that have never existed. 1118 00:59:33,750 --> 00:59:35,340 Oh my god, do you see that tea kettle? 1119 00:59:35,340 --> 00:59:36,170 Yeah. 1120 00:59:51,100 --> 00:59:52,650 Doctor! 1121 00:59:52,650 --> 00:59:53,560 Doctor! 1122 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,320 (people shouting) 1123 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,480 If I could travel in time, 1124 00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,070 I would probably go back in time. 1125 00:59:59,070 --> 01:00:01,860 Back to the 20s for a night and party. 1126 01:00:01,860 --> 01:00:03,240 That might be kind of fun. 1127 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,080 My number one choice would be medieval times 1128 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:07,040 just to see if there actually was 1129 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:08,500 a medieval times restaurant. 1130 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:11,120 I'd wanna go to the future. 1131 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:12,500 That seems pretty cool. 1132 01:00:12,500 --> 01:00:13,420 Definitely the future. 1133 01:00:13,420 --> 01:00:14,590 I'd like to see what's going on 1134 01:00:14,590 --> 01:00:17,210 100 years from now in the United States. 1135 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,600 Go back to see a Queens concert or something like that 1136 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,470 'cause I thought that would be really awesome. 1137 01:00:27,470 --> 01:00:28,470 My high school days 1138 01:00:28,470 --> 01:00:31,480 because it was really, really difficult for me back then, 1139 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,150 so I'd wanna tell myself that it's going to get better. 1140 01:00:34,150 --> 01:00:35,190 Don't worry about it. 1141 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,150 (clock ticking) 1142 01:00:45,620 --> 01:00:47,830 There's this whole history of the universe 1143 01:00:47,830 --> 01:00:50,500 and I've only seen one little tiny slice, 1144 01:00:50,500 --> 01:00:52,120 one little brief flash. 1145 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,920 And what will it be like to live in the 30th century? 1146 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,750 Something that everybody wants to know, 1147 01:00:57,750 --> 01:00:58,960 and we don't have the answers to that. 1148 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,260 We don't really know. 1149 01:01:00,260 --> 01:01:03,260 Even in the past, we can only roughly describe things. 1150 01:01:03,260 --> 01:01:04,470 We can't experience them. 1151 01:01:06,390 --> 01:01:08,970 All of the movies and all of the stories 1152 01:01:08,970 --> 01:01:11,100 and all of the imagination that goes into that 1153 01:01:11,100 --> 01:01:14,020 is towards that end because we want to know 1154 01:01:14,020 --> 01:01:15,440 whether we can do it or not, 1155 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:19,070 and we're gonna figure out whether we can do it or not. 1156 01:01:19,070 --> 01:01:20,650 (people applauding) 1157 01:01:20,650 --> 01:01:23,650 How many of you believe in the possibility of time travel? 1158 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,410 Oh, quite a few. 1159 01:01:27,410 --> 01:01:29,910 I'm open to the fact that it could be 1160 01:01:29,910 --> 01:01:32,330 that we arrive in a parallel universe 1161 01:01:32,330 --> 01:01:35,420 or the possibility that we really do alter the universe. 1162 01:01:35,420 --> 01:01:38,960 I think it may be that the universe is much more flexible 1163 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,090 and stranger than we could've imagined. 1164 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,650 I don't think there's any of us who has not wondering, 1165 01:02:03,650 --> 01:02:05,610 what's gonna happen next? 1166 01:02:05,610 --> 01:02:06,990 What's the future going to be like? 1167 01:02:06,990 --> 01:02:08,820 It may not be that they've thought about 1168 01:02:08,820 --> 01:02:10,280 the future of everything, 1169 01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,620 but just the future of their family. 1170 01:02:12,620 --> 01:02:15,290 But they've thought about the future, and the past. 1171 01:02:15,290 --> 01:02:18,830 Who of us has not had 1172 01:02:18,830 --> 01:02:20,840 either some regret or some interest 1173 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,050 to something that happened in our past and said, 1174 01:02:23,050 --> 01:02:26,630 I wonder what would've happened if I had taken that path? 1175 01:02:27,470 --> 01:02:28,390 What would've happened 1176 01:02:28,390 --> 01:02:31,510 if I had met this person rather than that? 1177 01:02:32,770 --> 01:02:36,640 We all have this passion to know, 1178 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,770 what would happen if I could change something in the past? 1179 01:02:39,770 --> 01:02:41,650 Or what's going to happen next? 1180 01:02:41,650 --> 01:02:43,900 I think that goes back to the beginning. 1181 01:02:44,860 --> 01:02:48,110 We do know we have the basis for the possibility. 1182 01:02:48,110 --> 01:02:50,240 It's just that we have to have the desire, 1183 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,030 the will, to do it. 1184 01:02:53,290 --> 01:02:56,160 From ancient stories in the Mahabharata 1185 01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:01,040 to El anacronopete and HG Wells' The Time Machine 1186 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,340 to Dr. Mallett's theory on ring lasers, 1187 01:03:04,340 --> 01:03:08,260 mankind has been on a quest to control time. 1188 01:03:09,470 --> 01:03:11,390 But is it possible? 1189 01:03:11,390 --> 01:03:13,260 Can we do it? 1190 01:03:13,260 --> 01:03:17,480 Will we be able to travel to the future or the past? 1191 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,730 The answer is still out there. 1192 01:03:21,650 --> 01:03:24,020 The possibilities are endless, 1193 01:03:24,020 --> 01:03:26,820 but all we have right now is the present. 1194 01:03:28,030 --> 01:03:31,740 Someday, we might be able to answer the questions we have, 1195 01:03:32,660 --> 01:03:37,620 and time travel will no longer be a dream but a reality. 94695

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