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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:19,080 --> 00:00:23,800 Hello and welcome to Global Eye from the BBC World Service. 2 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,040 In the next half hour, we'll bring you some of the best 3 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,120 of our global investigative journalism and reportage. 4 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,240 I'm Nomsa Maseko, the BBC's Southern Africa Correspondent, 5 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,600 and I'm based here in South Africa, 6 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,880 which recently hosted leaders from around the world for the G20 summit. 7 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,720 Here in Johannesburg, South Africa's economic heartland, 8 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,680 the Government has been giving the city a makeover, 9 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,040 filling in potholes, 10 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,880 fixing traffic lights and painting buildings 11 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,880 in preparation for the summit. 12 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,200 Yet beneath the fresh coat of paint, 13 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,640 the gathering has become a lightning rod for anger, 14 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,760 exposing deep-seated social dysfunction, 15 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,960 racial divisions and economic deprivation 16 00:01:09,960 --> 00:01:14,880 that many residents feel have been ignored for far too long. 17 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,400 Later in the programme, 18 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:21,360 BBC Eye investigates the reality just a few miles from the G20 venue, 19 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,280 where people live in derelict buildings, 20 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,520 often hijacked by criminal gangs 21 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,680 and in conditions unfit for human habitation. 22 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:38,480 And President Trump refused to attend the G20 23 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,280 due to the widely discredited claim 24 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,600 Afrikaners are the victims of white genocide. 25 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,040 Are South Africa's white minority 26 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,280 really victims of large-scale killings and land grabs? 27 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,280 I mean, you see a lot of things 28 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,000 in the last few years that's been brutal - 29 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,640 murder and torture and all that kind of stuff. 30 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,440 I don't want that to happen with us. 31 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,000 Here in South Africa's biggest and richest city, 32 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,600 there's always been a stark contrast 33 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,320 between the haves and the have-nots. 34 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:19,000 Shimmering skyscrapers have long stood alongside festering slums. 35 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,440 And, of course, the apartheid regime 36 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:26,640 added a brutal racial dimension to the economic divides. 37 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:30,640 South Africa hadn't hosted an international event on the scale 38 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:34,720 of the G20 since the 2010 FIFA World Cup. 39 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:39,000 Officials here hoped that the summit would allow the country to champion 40 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,000 issues vital to developing nations, 41 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,560 making borrowing cheaper for countries 42 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,920 that pay two to four times more in interest than richer nations, 43 00:02:48,920 --> 00:02:51,560 and persuading leaders to scale up spending 44 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,720 on climate disaster resilience. 45 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,160 But despite attempts to downplay it, 46 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,120 the meeting was dominated 47 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,240 by Donald Trump's very public decision not to attend. 48 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,760 The contrast between global diplomacy and local reality 49 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,760 is stark in Johannesburg itself. Its central business district, 50 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,400 once a symbol of wealth and power during the apartheid era, 51 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,960 fell into decline after big businesses moved out. 52 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,560 Over time, gangs moved in. 53 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,440 BBC Eye has gained unprecedented access to these buildings 54 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,880 to uncover a story of organised crime, political corruption 55 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,600 and squalid living conditions that shame this city. 56 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,280 Here's Ayanda Charlie's report. 57 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,320 Johannesburg's inner city stands on the brink of collapse. 58 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,720 Once a symbol of ambition, it has become a wasteland of neglect. 59 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,440 In an area of only seven square miles, 60 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,160 there are hundreds of derelict or abandoned buildings. 61 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,120 A vast number of these buildings are infested with crime... 62 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,880 They hide here. 63 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,200 ..and are unfit for human habitation. 64 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,960 Can the City of Johannesburg be saved? 65 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,120 Or is it an impossible dream? 66 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,200 Ever since I've lived in Joburg, 67 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,480 a lot of what I would hear is that, you know, 68 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,600 "Be careful when you're in the inner city." 69 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,200 You know, "Watch your back, keep your belongings close to yourself 70 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,840 "because you might most likely get pickpocketed." 71 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:35,560 Uh... Or mugged. 72 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,240 There's a lot of criminal activity, 73 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,760 drug use, lots of homelessness in the inner city. 74 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,680 It's not a place you go mindlessly. 75 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,680 We are not going to be apologetic. Once we say building is hijacked, 76 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,720 it means a crime has been committed. 77 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,960 Under South Africa's constitution, 78 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,800 everyone has a right to adequate housing. 79 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,880 So, basically, today we disconnect hijacked buildings 80 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,080 across Jeppestown area. 81 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,960 But for as long as I can remember, 82 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,400 the city has been spiralling out of control. 83 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,480 See what you found here. The needles. 84 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,600 We're driving into Hillbrow, a no-go zone for most people... 85 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,080 SIREN WAILS 86 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,000 ..where the murder rate ranks in the top 1% in the world. 87 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,880 We're headed to a notorious city-owned abandoned building 88 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,680 called Vannin Court. 89 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,680 All right, I lead the way, you go behind me? 90 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,840 INDISTINCT CHAT Perfect. 91 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:37,280 Around 300 people live in Vannin Court. 92 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,840 The people are running away from me immediately. 93 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,760 Good, thank you. 94 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,440 One young man has agreed to show me around. 95 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,960 Take me from floor to floor and show me around. Yeah. 96 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,440 No water? No water. No electricity. 97 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,160 OK. 98 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:09,880 Bedroom. 99 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,680 Lounge, OK. 100 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,720 I'm taken to an apartment on the ground floor. 101 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,240 So this is your room. 102 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,040 Oh, this is your kitchen area? Yeah, it's my kitchen. 103 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,480 The municipality is saying anything about... 104 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,280 So, why don't you have water? What have they said? Let me ask you that. 105 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:32,440 OK. 106 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,040 OK. 107 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,840 As this building is owned by the city, 108 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:51,080 under normal circumstances, it would receive income from tenants' rent. 109 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,880 So you pay how much? 110 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,360 Oh. How does that work? How come you don't have to pay? 111 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,640 So you charge people to live in this unit? 112 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,040 Another guy collect the money? 113 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,000 Yes. That's what I'm trying to understand. 114 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,280 Hijacked buildings like this one are a common phenomenon 115 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,880 in which occupants take control of a building 116 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,080 and collect rent for themselves. 117 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,240 So this is the toilet? 118 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,640 But there's no plumbing system. 119 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,840 Or does it work? 120 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,520 So everything flushes down properly? 121 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,680 The basement, once a car park, 122 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,200 is down these stairs, but no-one wants to take me. 123 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,160 So this is the basement. 124 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,040 Human waste is literally filling the basement up... 125 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,520 So that's the smell? 126 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,480 ..overflowing into the adjacent alleyway. 127 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,960 The sewage situation is worse than I thought, 128 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,640 but I've walked past, driven past those parts of the city 129 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,440 so many times, and you can smell it. 130 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,760 But these are permanent broken sewage systems and pipes. 131 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,080 And people live there permanently. 132 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,360 So the only time you get attention from the city council 133 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,040 is when it's election time. 134 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,000 Nelson Khetani lives just a mile away 135 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,080 in a building owned by the city called MBV1. 136 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,160 This building is a rare example of temporary accommodation 137 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:42,040 provided when the city did evict people from another building. 138 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,400 So this used to be, like, a laundry area? 139 00:08:45,560 --> 00:08:46,840 Wow. 140 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,040 Human waste. 141 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,120 So what happened here? Did the pipes...? 142 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,320 So what do you do? 143 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,240 The shocking thing is, Nelson and his fellow residents 144 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:12,680 were moved here way back in 2008 from a building called San Jose. 145 00:09:12,680 --> 00:09:15,400 He still pays rent to the city, 146 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,640 but his so-called temporary accommodation 147 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,240 has continued for 17 years. 148 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,240 If you were to compare this building to San Jose, 149 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,120 would you say this is better or worse? 150 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,560 Residents like Nelson feel abandoned 151 00:09:47,560 --> 00:09:50,920 and are left to rue the city's broken promises. 152 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:55,320 When you ask the city where the permanent accommodation 153 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,240 you were supposed to be moved into is, what do they say? 154 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,520 City has no money. There's no money. 155 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,360 According to a recent report, 156 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,520 more than three-quarters of so-called bad buildings 157 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,520 have no water, sanitation, 158 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,360 refuse removal or electricity. 159 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,400 But how did we get here? 160 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,840 Johannesburg, The City of Gold, 161 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,240 has always been known as the financial 162 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,120 and industrial centre of South Africa. 163 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,720 But by the 1990s, the inner city was in steady decline, 164 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,320 barely sustaining the white minority it had once been designed for. 165 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:49,640 When apartheid fell, Johannesburg became legally open to all races. 166 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,720 A huge population influx, combined with underinvestment 167 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,000 and the departure of wealthy landlords, 168 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,040 placed immense pressure on the inner city. 169 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,120 Buildings fell into disrepair 170 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,560 and became havens for illegal activity. 171 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,560 When I started making this film, 172 00:11:08,560 --> 00:11:10,680 I thought it was about abandoned buildings, 173 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:14,520 but I now see it's about abandoned people, 174 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,760 and I've come to realise that when the state becomes neglectful, 175 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,600 that's when criminals can prosper. 176 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,120 We're on our way right now to meet a man who says 177 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,560 that he used to be a building hijacker. 178 00:11:25,560 --> 00:11:27,960 Now, this is the first time he's ever told his story, 179 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:32,080 and he's agreed to speak with us on condition that we hide his identity. 180 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,240 So how did you get into the building hijacking business? 181 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:08,480 Mm. 182 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,960 When you were in that building, 183 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,480 was there ever any notice of eviction? 184 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:35,920 Led to anything. 185 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,200 And then what happened? If they're not willing... 186 00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:07,880 And you would have to go and intimidate them, scare them. 187 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,320 What else? 188 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,360 You were involved in the drug trade. 189 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,240 You were involved in hijacking buildings. 190 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,360 You did cause misery to a lot of people. 191 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,400 So how do you feel about that? 192 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:52,560 After the interview, this ex-hijacker told me he left the gang 193 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:56,000 because he discovered they were plotting to kill him. 194 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,800 He also shared his relief at leaving a criminal life 195 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,720 and moving out of the city. 196 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,240 The city council spokesman, Nthatisi Modingoane, 197 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,720 has agreed to meet me at the Moth Building 198 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,600 to discuss some of these claims. 199 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,120 The council did manage to clear this city-owned building 200 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:21,440 in December 2024, evacuating the occupants on safety grounds. 201 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,880 But it's the only evacuation they've completed in the last ten months. 202 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,960 So far in our investigation, we've heard claims from people 203 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,600 that there are very concerning criminal activity, 204 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,360 high-level criminal activity there, 205 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,200 like the drug trade, in some of these hijacked buildings. 206 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,680 What is the city doing to crack down on those criminal forces? 207 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,480 Yes. In some of the buildings, 208 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,240 some of the things that we see there are scary, to say the least. 209 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,560 But we will intensify our operations 210 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,400 and make sure that we clean the city. 211 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,760 There have been operations where we found people with drugs. 212 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,240 We have found people with illegal weapons. 213 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,000 And those cases are currently sitting with 214 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,200 the South African Police Services for further investigation. 215 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:07,920 We've also heard claims 216 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,160 that certain parts of the Government and the police, 217 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:15,280 in fact, are being bribed and are somehow colluding 218 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,160 with criminals and building hijackers 219 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:22,920 in the city to stall the justice system, essentially. 220 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,720 What do you know about that? 221 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,760 In our investigation thus far, 222 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:33,360 we have not had any physical reports or credible reports 223 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,560 that seems to suggest that there might be any wrongdoing. 224 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,520 Under South Africa's constitution, 225 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,520 in theory, everyone has the right to adequate housing, 226 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,880 but the city needs to do far more to turn that into a reality. 227 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,520 We contacted the Johannesburg police 228 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,160 and asked them if they were aware of any bribes, 229 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,320 intimidatory tactics or even murders by criminals 230 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,520 to prevent officers from carrying out their duties. 231 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,720 They did not reply. 232 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,720 We also asked the city council 233 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,920 about cutting off the water supply at Vannin Court. 234 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,280 They did not respond. 235 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,960 Apartheid - the almost 50 years 236 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,240 of institutionalised racial segregation has left 237 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,840 a deep and bitter legacy across this nation. 238 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,760 Under that political system, 239 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,320 marriages were banned across racial lines, 240 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,280 many skilled and semi-skilled jobs were reserved for white people, 241 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,040 and black people were forced to live 242 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,080 in what were called townships and homelands. 243 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:45,240 The shift from minority rule to democracy in 1994 244 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,800 left many white South Africans struggling to adjust. 245 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,000 Some claim they are now being driven out by violent crime, 246 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:56,440 economic decline and the looming threat of land expropriation. 247 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,760 Among some right-wing groups, 248 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,240 this narrative has been adopted as proof of a white genocide, 249 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,760 an assertion that has repeatedly been debunked 250 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,000 by the facts and statistics, 251 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,320 and rejected by South Africa's Government 252 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,640 and senior Afrikaner officials. 253 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,600 Since he returned to the White House, 254 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,280 the narrative has also been promoted by President Trump. 255 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,080 As he closed America's door to almost all refugees, 256 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,880 he opened it for one group in particular - 257 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,280 white South Africans. 258 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,560 For BBC Eye, Claire Mawisa has been following 259 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:35,280 a group of white South Africans caught in the storm of ideology, 260 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,640 fear and migration politics, 261 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:42,360 as she asks what truth, if any, lies behind the rhetoric. 262 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,160 It's a genocide that's taking place 263 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,120 that you people don't want to write about, 264 00:17:47,120 --> 00:17:49,080 but it's a terrible thing that's taking place. 265 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:53,280 And farmers are being killed. 266 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,000 They happen to be white, 267 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,640 but whether they're white or black makes no difference to me. 268 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,560 I'm about to sign some very important executive orders 269 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,640 of our new administration. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 270 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,920 In February 2025, Donald Trump signed an executive order 271 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,920 offering white Afrikaners refugee status in America. 272 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,880 He claimed Afrikaner land was being taken 273 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,040 by the South African Government without compensation. 274 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,640 A month later, the US cut most foreign aid to South Africa. 275 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:34,440 I've come to the town of Brits, just an hour's drive from Pretoria. 276 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,520 I want to meet some of the people 277 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,680 who are hoping to leave South Africa, 278 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,760 to try and understand what is pushing them to leave. 279 00:18:44,360 --> 00:18:48,680 Hi, Carlien. Hi, nice to meet you. Claire. I'm very well, thank you. 280 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,520 Hello, hello. And you must be...? James. Nice to meet you, James. 281 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:53,920 My name is Claire. 282 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,720 Thank you so much for having me, guys. 283 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,040 Carlien is applying for refugee status to the United States 284 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,080 for herself and her three youngest children. 285 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,920 Carlien and her family came to Brits after the farm 286 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,240 they were living on was broken into and robbed. 287 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,560 Fortunately, they weren't at home. 288 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,440 Now 17, Stephen has almost finished school. 289 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,680 I want to go work in America to do farming. 290 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,480 I want to go in farming because I love farming. 291 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,680 It's a passion of mine since small. 292 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,800 Why didn't you want to become a farmer in South Africa? 293 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,080 It's dangerous here to become a farmer. 294 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,680 And it's... 295 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,560 It's just not the... It's not worth it 296 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,520 to become a farmer here and risk it to get maybe attacked. 297 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:48,480 Carlien has been unemployed for ten years. 298 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,600 She scrapes a living selling clothes online. 299 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,760 The situation with our crime, 300 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,520 every morning when they go to school, 301 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,600 I worry - I worry, is something happening? 302 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,200 Are they going to be OK? 303 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:07,080 We don't know, tonight. Someone... Someone can break in tonight. 304 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:13,240 I'm on my way to a farm in Free State Province. 305 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,240 I'm meeting farm manager Marthinus. 306 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,680 I mean, you see a lot of things that 307 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:23,080 in the last few years that's been brutally murdered 308 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,880 and tortured and all that kind of stuff. 309 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,880 I mean, you don't want to... I don't want that to happen with us. 310 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,360 Marthinus is speaking from bitter experience. 311 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:43,320 Both his wife's grandfather and his own grandfather 312 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,280 were murdered in farm attacks. 313 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,240 They came into my grandpa's bedroom. 314 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,560 He had a shotgun next to his bed. 315 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,480 And then when he grabbed the shotgun and he wants to aim him, 316 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,840 the guy took the shotgun. 317 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,640 I think he was 72 or 70 years old or something like that. 318 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,520 In February, Marthinus applied to become a refugee 319 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,840 in the United States. 320 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,280 He and his family have been interviewed 321 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,520 by the State Department and are now awaiting the verdict. 322 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,480 Does the thought of leaving South Africa, 323 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,360 does that break your heart? Does that make you sad? 324 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:27,040 Yes, that makes me really sad. 325 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,000 I mean, I've been born and raised here, 326 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,040 you know, but I'm prepared to do that, 327 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:38,280 to get a better life for my wife and children. 328 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,280 Because I don't want to be slaughtered 329 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,000 and be hanged or whatever, you know? 330 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,400 No, I don't want that. 331 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,000 No nation state or international court, 332 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,840 and none of South Africa's political parties, 333 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,800 including those representing Afrikaners, 334 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,680 claim there is a genocide in South Africa. 335 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:07,560 But it seems that murders on farms are fuelling a conspiracy theory. 336 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,880 I want to find out how prevalent they really are. 337 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,960 Are white farmers more at risk of facing violence or crime 338 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,520 on their farms than black farmers? 339 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,920 I will not say it's only the white farmers. 340 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,400 There's also black farmers and black workers 341 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:33,920 and foremen and people residing on farms get targeted. 342 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:39,960 Over 30 years after apartheid, 72% of privately owned farmland 343 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,680 is still white-owned. 344 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,440 Despite the land reform laws, 345 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,800 no white properties have been forcibly seized by the Government. 346 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,520 Black or white, many of the farmers 347 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,640 in this area have experienced a violent robbery. 348 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,760 I'm on my way to meet Catherine. 349 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,040 She has a farm and a polo school. 350 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,760 Originally from England, 351 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,480 she came to South Africa 25 years ago 352 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,160 and fell in love with the place. 353 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,320 She's lived here ever since. 354 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,560 I'm Claire. Yes. Catherine, nice to meet you. 355 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:24,080 One night in 2021, men came uninvited onto her property. 356 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,920 Well, I thought I was going to die that evening. 357 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:31,200 But, you know, they'd actually come to steal. 358 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,760 That's why they were here, to steal. 359 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,440 Do you think it's accurate to say 360 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,960 that white Afrikaners or white farm owners 361 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,520 are being intentionally attacked 362 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,520 because they are white Afrikaners? 363 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:54,720 The reason why farm attacks happen is essentially because of theft. 364 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,840 Most of the farms are owned by whites, 365 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:02,520 so inevitably it's whites that suffer from those attacks. 366 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,720 But there are plenty of rich black farmers 367 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,760 who also suffer attacks. 368 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:13,920 This story about a white genocide is absolutely absurd. 369 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,640 The story that is out there is that there's 370 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,680 a white genocide happening in South Africa. 371 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,160 That's the story that's out there. 372 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,720 It's an inaccurate story. 373 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,000 There are shootings every week in a township. 374 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,720 There are assaults every week in the township. 375 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,120 People have lost count. 376 00:24:34,120 --> 00:24:36,760 Communities don't report things to the police. 377 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,320 It's just like they're numb 378 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,120 to the crime that's happening in their own environment. 379 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:44,400 Is there crime happening on farms in South Africa? Absolutely. 380 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,920 Have Afrikaners experienced that violent crime 381 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,040 on their properties? Absolutely. Nobody's denying that. 382 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,000 But, wow, at a... 383 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,760 ..on a whole other scale, 384 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,320 crime is happening in townships 385 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,280 where mostly black people are living. 386 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,560 The divisions created by apartheid continue 387 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,320 to run deep in South African society. 388 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,520 And nowhere is that more clear than within families. 389 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,120 Hello, hello. How are you? 390 00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:22,760 While Carlien is determined to seek asylum in America, 391 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,920 her daughter Wilma wants to stay. 392 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,800 Your mother's expressed interest, 393 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,880 and she's in the process of wanting to go to America. 394 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,680 What are your thoughts and feelings about that decision? 395 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,480 I'm happy for them, and I hope it works. 396 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,360 And I hope they can do it and they can start a new life, 397 00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:43,240 um, you know, and get out of this country, 398 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,560 because it doesn't look hopeful. 399 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,680 President Trump has said that 400 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,600 there's a white genocide going on in South Africa, 401 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:57,400 and he wants to help the Afrikaners escape South Africa. 402 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,280 What are your thoughts and opinions? 403 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:00,880 They can call it a white genocide 404 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,960 because most white people own farmland. 405 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,160 But there's so much crime in South Africa - 406 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,960 if you're black, if you're white, doesn't matter. 407 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,160 So it's affecting everyone equally. Everyone equally. 408 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:22,920 In October, the US set a refugee cap of just 7,500, 409 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,800 reserving most spots for Afrikaners. 410 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,400 OK. 411 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,400 Carlien submitted her application 412 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,080 and has been advised to complete more paperwork. 413 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:39,040 Marthinus and his family have now been granted refugee status 414 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,040 and are preparing to move to the United States. 415 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,520 Now, here's some other great content 416 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,400 from the BBC World Service that you can find this week. 417 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,680 We've launched a brand-new podcast, Asia Specific, 418 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:57,120 hosted from Singapore in twice-weekly episodes 419 00:26:57,120 --> 00:27:02,120 that will also appear in vision on the World Service YouTube channel. 420 00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:04,680 I've been based in the BBC's Singapore bureau 421 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,040 for 20 years, covering stories all over Asia - 422 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,360 the 2011 Japan earthquake, 423 00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:12,800 the pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong, 424 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,280 and the Tokyo Olympics. 425 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,520 And during this time, Asia has become an economic powerhouse 426 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,160 and a region increasingly shaping the world 427 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,560 on everything from tech trends to clean energy. 428 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,440 Since Singapore achieved its independence in 1965 from Malaysia, 429 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,840 it has had one of the highest economic growths in the world, 430 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,320 helped by its strategic location 431 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,000 and time-zone advantage for the Eastern and Western world. 432 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,320 Singapore is one of the world's 433 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,320 most densely populated countries, and it has four official languages. 434 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,560 It's a melting pot of culture. 435 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,400 It's the perfect base for our new Asia Specific podcast, 436 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,520 where we have in-depth discussions on the region's big news issues, 437 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,120 as well as the unexpected trends shaping Asia. 438 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:04,640 Asia Specific - unpacked by those who know it best. 439 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,720 Thanks for joining me in South Africa. 440 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,720 We want your feedback on Global Eye. 441 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,760 Let us know what you think on social media, 442 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,920 Global Eye will be back 443 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,080 from the BBC's headquarters in London next week. 444 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,720 Goodbye. 36831

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