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- Previously,
on "The Inbetween"...
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- I can't wake up my mom.
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- The woman I saw was dead.
He'd taken out her eyes.
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- Perp's name was Ed Roven--
Texas, mid '90s.
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Six women murdered.
Same MO, same signature.
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Executed October 2, 2005.
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Roven screwed up when he left
his last victim's son alive.
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Mark Waterman told the cops
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everything Roven did
to his mom.
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He couldn't save her,
and he blamed himself,
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so he starts to create
violent fantasies
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in which he's like Roven.
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- We're not a team.
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- I want out of the Inbetween.
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And you're gonna help me,
Cottontail.
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[Simple Minds' "Someone,
Somewhere In Summertime" plays]
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♪
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- Hey, we're closed!
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- ♪ I'm burning slow,
with me in the rain ♪
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- [sighs]
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- ♪ Walking in the subway,
calling out my name ♪
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- Last call was
half an hour ago.
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Hey. You don't have to go home,
but you can't stay here!
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♪
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Millie?
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[music distorts]
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[gasps]
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[grunts, panting]
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[boat horn blares]
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[machine whirring]
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[ominous music]
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♪
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- Find me.
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- [gasping]
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- ♪ Someone, somewhere
in summertime ♪
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♪
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♪ Someone,
somewhere, somewhere ♪
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- Okay, I understand.
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Thank you so much
for calling, Doctor.
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- Why is the doctor
calling so early?
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- He had some news.
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Uh, he took a look
at my most recent film,
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and the steroids
aren't shrinking the tumor
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quite as fast as he'd like.
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[somber music]
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♪
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- I see.
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So what does that mean?
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- Look, we knew that
the surgery was inevitable.
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- Yeah, but not this soon.
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- Well, he also had
some good news.
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Dr. Ramona Ashcroft,
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who's one of the best
brain surgeons in the country--
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he said she's available to fly
in in the next few weeks
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to perform the procedure.
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[footsteps approaching]
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- Okay.
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- Oh, let's not get into it
right now.
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- Hey, guys.
- Hey, sweetie.
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How's it going?
- Hey.
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- I need a favor.
- Yeah?
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- Can you look
into a cold case for me?
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- Yeah, sure.
Do you have a name?
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- Millicent Pierce.
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I saw her last night
at the bar,
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and then I spent a few hours
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looking through
missing-persons websites
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until I found her photo.
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She disappeared
in the summer of 1985.
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She wants me to find her.
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- 1985, that's almost ten years
before you were born.
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- Yeah.
There are other things, too.
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There was a fishing boat
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and rope
and another dead woman.
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- Okay, well, look,
I'm going to the office early,
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so I'll look up the file--
I'll give you a call.
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- Thank you.
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I'll see you later.
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[indistinct chatter]
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- Did we catch a case?
- Millicent Pierce.
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Disappeared August 29, 1985.
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- A cold case.
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So no body, no forensics,
and not to mention
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a 34-year lag time for
witnesses' memories to fade.
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What are you thinking--
reinterview the parents?
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- I can handle that.
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But if you wouldn't mind,
I could use some help
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with these files.
- What files?
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- These files.
Thanks, fellas.
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- Anytime, Detective.
- I did a quick search.
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In 1985, every detective
on Millie's case
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was working at least
two other missing women--
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mostly sex workers
and runaways.
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- Oh. Was Millie a runaway?
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- No, but she was pegged
as one because she snuck out
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of the house post curfew,
never came home.
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But she was a good student.
She was close to her family.
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- Oh, what's the connection?
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Cassie.
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- She said
when she saw Millie,
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there was
another girl there as well.
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Now, it could be they were
taken by the same person.
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These seven women went missing
the same year as Millie,
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and like her,
the bodies were never found.
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A task force worked on the
cases as long as they could
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back in '85, but eventually
the trail went cold.
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- Detectives retire,
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files were sent to storage.
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These women were forgotten.
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And if he was never caught,
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whoever took them
could still be active.
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- I've asked unis to gather
all missing-persons files
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for the last 34 years.
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But, basically,
any woman that disappeared
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in that time and hasn't been
found is potentially
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a victim,
especially prostitutes.
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- Well, I'll check
with Vice,
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see if any sex workers
have recently gone missing.
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- I've already done that.
According to them, this woman,
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Becky Russell,
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disappeared just five days ago.
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Last seen down near Sea-Tac.
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- The airport's popular
with working girls.
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- Yeah. Friend of hers
said the last time she saw her,
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she was getting into a car
with an older guy.
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Didn't see his face.
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- Well, guess it goes
without saying
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that if he's been active
for over 30 years,
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he'd best
be described as older.
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He'd be in his 50s or 60s
by now.
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- Cassie said Millie
wants to be found.
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[ominous music]
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What if she's also trying
to help us
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bring down a serial killer?
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♪
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- So you're saying seven
other women
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went missing
the same year as Millie?
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- Mm-hmm. All prostitutes,
all last seen near Sea-Tac.
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Asante and I
are looking into it.
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♪
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- That's her. This is the woman
I saw in the fishing net.
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- Tara Burns.
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She went missing
two days before Millie.
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All right,
are you ready for this?
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Grieving relatives?
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It's never easy.
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- I understand.
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What did you tell them
about me?
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- I told them
you were my daughter,
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you saw Millie's case
on the Internet,
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and you asked me
to look into it.
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But they're not going
to tell me anything
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that they haven't already said
to the original detectives
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a million times.
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If there's any new information
to glean in there,
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you'll be
the one getting it...
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from Millie.
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[thunder rumbles]
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- We were surprised to get
your call, Detective.
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It's been a long time
since anyone
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has been interested
in looking for Millie.
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- Very long time.
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- I can't make any promises.
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- We understand.
It's been 34 years.
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And if Millie
were still alive, she--
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- If my sister
were still alive,
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she would have
come back to us by now.
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We don't expect miracles.
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- We just want to give
our daughter a proper burial.
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She shouldn't be out there...
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out there alone.
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- We'll do everything we can.
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The night Millie disappeared,
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you thought she'd slipped out
of the house to meet someone?
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- Earlier that summer,
I had caught her
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sneaking out the back door.
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She was all dressed up.
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She had a date, I'm sure of it.
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- And she never mentioned
to you
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the name of the person
that she was seeing?
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- No. None of her friends
knew, either.
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- Millie wasn't supposed
to be dating.
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We had her
on a strict curfew.
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But...
- Our daughter was headstrong.
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[chuckles]
Independent.
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She wanted one
of those Walkmans, you know?
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And we told her that he would
buy her one for Christmas
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if she kept her grades up.
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- But she couldn't wait.
She...
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she made money herself,
babysitting.
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I swear I never saw her
without those headphones--
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music playing all the time.
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- Millie didn't walk,
she danced...
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everywhere she went.
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- Is the Walkman still here?
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- They think
she was wearing it when...
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A-anyway,
we--we never found it.
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- Everything else in her room
is exactly how she left it.
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- Would it be okay if--
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That is, do you think
I could look in Millie's room?
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- Upstairs,
second door on the left.
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[dramatic music]
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♪
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- You had style,
Millie Pierce.
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♪
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[whirring]
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- ♪ Peter Rabbit
and Little Boy Blue ♪
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♪ Hidden in the brush...
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[tempo quickens,
music distorts]
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♪
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♪ Everybody run,
Peter Rabbit ♪
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- Well, nothing new my end.
How about you?
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- I'm not sure.
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Do you remember
the "Peter Rabbit" song,
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the one I said
would be important
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in the Shannon Bell case?
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- Yeah.
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- I heard it again
up in Millie's room.
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- Mark Waterman wasn't even
alive when Millie disappeared.
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- No, but Ed Roven was.
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- What do you know
about Ed Roven?
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- The night
you caught Waterman,
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Roven came to visit me.
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- Just the once?
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- No.
- Why didn't you tell me?
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- I knew you'd be upset.
- Oh...
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- But he's been not unhelpful
a couple of times.
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The guy knows his way
around the underworld.
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- Putting aside
my keen discomfort
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with this for a moment,
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what could Ed Roven have to do
with Millie's disappearance?
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He was killing women in Texas.
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- Yes, but not until
the 1990s, right?
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I don't know what it means.
It might be nothing, but...
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I don't think it's nothing.
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- I'll look into it.
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Is there anything else
you want to tell me?
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- Yes, uh...
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I love you.
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- [chuckles]
- Bye.
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- ♪ You got me
where you want me ♪
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♪ I'm going left, right,
left, right, left ♪
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[static whirs]
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[music resumes briefly, stops]
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[ominous music]
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♪
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- You better stay out
of my business, little girl!
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[engine revving]
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[dramatic music]
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♪
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- You think all these women
were grabbed by the same guy?
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- No, we think the killer
was concentrating
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on high-risk victims--
prostitutes and runaways.
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- Any bodies turn up?
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- No, none of these women
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have ever been found,
alive or dead.
258
00:10:52,695 --> 00:10:54,262
- We're still going
through files,
259
00:10:54,305 --> 00:10:56,177
but it looks like our guy
has a type--
260
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Young, Caucasian, brunette.
261
00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,616
- All of these women were
last seen near Sea-Tac.
262
00:11:00,660 --> 00:11:02,139
Looks like that
was his hunting ground.
263
00:11:02,183 --> 00:11:03,445
- Becky Russell
fits the profile.
264
00:11:03,488 --> 00:11:05,099
- Yeah, but Millie Pierce
doesn't.
265
00:11:05,142 --> 00:11:07,971
She wasn't a sex worker.
She had light eyes, light hair.
266
00:11:08,015 --> 00:11:10,365
- Yeah, that's true, but Millie
disappeared two days
267
00:11:10,408 --> 00:11:12,106
after Tara Burns
was last seen--
268
00:11:12,149 --> 00:11:13,847
August 27, 1985.
269
00:11:13,890 --> 00:11:15,109
- Could be a coincidence.
270
00:11:15,152 --> 00:11:17,067
- Or maybe Millie
was an outlier.
271
00:11:17,111 --> 00:11:18,678
- Then how do you explain
the fact
272
00:11:18,721 --> 00:11:20,941
that these eight women
and Becky Russell
273
00:11:20,984 --> 00:11:23,117
disappeared 34 years apart.
274
00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,467
- We don't think he quit
in 1985.
275
00:11:25,510 --> 00:11:27,948
We think he just slowed down,
enough to stay under the radar.
276
00:11:27,991 --> 00:11:29,471
- Becky's suspected abductor
277
00:11:29,514 --> 00:11:31,821
was thought to be
in his 50s or 60s.
278
00:11:31,865 --> 00:11:34,345
Unis are going through
missing-persons reports
279
00:11:34,389 --> 00:11:35,956
from the last 34 years.
280
00:11:35,999 --> 00:11:37,871
- How many?
281
00:11:37,914 --> 00:11:39,524
- 15 women so far.
282
00:11:40,830 --> 00:11:42,789
- I just hung up with
Becky Russell's sister.
283
00:11:42,832 --> 00:11:45,487
Their mother's sick, and Becky
was helping take care of her.
284
00:11:45,530 --> 00:11:47,228
The family's sure
she wouldn't have left town
285
00:11:47,271 --> 00:11:48,838
without telling anybody.
286
00:11:49,970 --> 00:11:53,408
- If you're right about this
and there's a serial
287
00:11:53,451 --> 00:11:54,844
who has been operating
under the nose
288
00:11:54,888 --> 00:11:57,281
of the police department
for over 30 years,
289
00:11:57,325 --> 00:11:59,806
I want us to be the ones
who catch this guy.
290
00:11:59,849 --> 00:12:01,808
Keep digging.
Find out everything
291
00:12:01,851 --> 00:12:03,548
you possibly can
about these missing women
292
00:12:03,592 --> 00:12:06,073
and keep me posted
on Becky Russell.
293
00:12:06,116 --> 00:12:09,076
[dramatic music]
294
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♪
295
00:12:10,207 --> 00:12:11,905
- Let's go.
296
00:12:15,256 --> 00:12:17,519
- Cassie's sure Ed Roven
was involved
297
00:12:17,562 --> 00:12:18,999
in Millie's disappearance?
- Yeah.
298
00:12:19,042 --> 00:12:21,697
- But obviously he couldn't
have taken Becky Russell.
299
00:12:21,741 --> 00:12:23,525
- What are the odds two serials
300
00:12:23,568 --> 00:12:25,353
were operating in Seattle
at the same time?
301
00:12:25,396 --> 00:12:27,050
- It's happened before.
302
00:12:27,094 --> 00:12:29,009
In the 1970s,
Santa Cruz had three.
303
00:12:29,052 --> 00:12:31,663
- So maybe Roven's responsible
for Millie,
304
00:12:31,707 --> 00:12:33,317
and our other women,
the prostitutes,
305
00:12:33,361 --> 00:12:35,015
belong to our unknown serial.
306
00:12:35,058 --> 00:12:37,365
Look at this.
307
00:12:37,408 --> 00:12:40,716
Bank statements in the early
'80s show that Roven
308
00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,720
was mostly
in the Southern states until...
309
00:12:44,764 --> 00:12:47,288
April '85,
he cashes a check in Colorado.
310
00:12:47,331 --> 00:12:49,507
- He was heading northwest.
- Mm-hmm.
311
00:12:49,551 --> 00:12:51,814
After that,
the trail goes cold
312
00:12:51,858 --> 00:12:54,382
until he shows up back in Texas
almost eight months later.
313
00:12:54,425 --> 00:12:57,559
- So it's possible he was in
Seattle the summer of 1985.
314
00:12:57,602 --> 00:12:59,822
- Right. Maybe he was working
off the books.
315
00:12:59,866 --> 00:13:02,172
He was living
out of pocket, he was--
316
00:13:02,216 --> 00:13:03,870
♪
317
00:13:03,913 --> 00:13:07,743
Cassie said she saw
a fishing boat...
318
00:13:07,787 --> 00:13:09,353
and a net.
319
00:13:09,397 --> 00:13:11,529
- Could be he worked
a fishing trawler for cash.
320
00:13:11,573 --> 00:13:14,445
- Let's get down to the docks.
321
00:13:14,489 --> 00:13:17,448
[indistinct chatter]
322
00:13:29,983 --> 00:13:32,768
- Last chance, Cottontail.
323
00:13:32,812 --> 00:13:35,075
Walk away.
324
00:13:35,118 --> 00:13:36,554
- How'd you know Millie, Ed?
325
00:13:36,598 --> 00:13:39,427
- That a piece of fluff
in your ears?
326
00:13:39,470 --> 00:13:42,038
I said it ain't
your business.
327
00:13:42,082 --> 00:13:44,432
- Her parents want her back.
328
00:13:44,475 --> 00:13:46,651
It's their business, isn't it?
329
00:13:46,695 --> 00:13:48,392
She doesn't belong with you.
330
00:13:48,436 --> 00:13:50,612
- Millie's fine where she is.
331
00:13:50,655 --> 00:13:52,919
She's in a lovely spot.
332
00:13:52,962 --> 00:13:54,790
- Millie disagrees.
333
00:13:56,226 --> 00:13:58,359
- You've seen her?
334
00:13:58,402 --> 00:14:01,449
- You said that you wanted
out of the inbetween,
335
00:14:01,492 --> 00:14:04,887
wanted to do some good
so you could move on.
336
00:14:04,931 --> 00:14:06,193
Here's your chance.
337
00:14:06,236 --> 00:14:07,890
Why aren't you taking it?
338
00:14:07,934 --> 00:14:10,980
♪
339
00:14:11,024 --> 00:14:13,809
What will I learn about you
when I find Millie?
340
00:14:13,853 --> 00:14:15,942
- Nothing...
341
00:14:15,985 --> 00:14:18,248
because you
won't find her...
342
00:14:18,292 --> 00:14:19,859
ever.
343
00:14:19,902 --> 00:14:22,296
Now you leave it be.
344
00:14:22,339 --> 00:14:23,993
- Or you'll what?
345
00:14:24,037 --> 00:14:27,170
♪
346
00:14:27,214 --> 00:14:28,955
That's what I thought.
347
00:14:28,998 --> 00:14:36,005
♪
348
00:14:48,278 --> 00:14:52,456
[indistinct chatter]
349
00:14:52,500 --> 00:14:53,893
- We're just about to close up.
350
00:14:53,936 --> 00:14:57,505
- And we'd just like
to ask some questions.
351
00:14:57,548 --> 00:14:58,985
- How long have you
worked here?
352
00:14:59,028 --> 00:15:00,856
- Since right after
high school.
353
00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:03,946
- Do you, by any chance,
recognize this man?
354
00:15:03,990 --> 00:15:05,252
Ed Roven.
355
00:15:05,295 --> 00:15:07,297
- Nah, is he a fisherman?
- Was.
356
00:15:07,341 --> 00:15:08,951
This would have been
in the mid 1980s.
357
00:15:08,995 --> 00:15:11,693
- This is what
he'd look like then.
358
00:15:11,736 --> 00:15:15,349
- Hey, Frank!
Can you come her a sec?
359
00:15:15,392 --> 00:15:17,525
It's Frank Blair.
He's my boss.
360
00:15:17,568 --> 00:15:19,570
- Good evening, sir.
- What can I do you for?
361
00:15:19,614 --> 00:15:22,225
- Do you ever remember seeing
this man?
362
00:15:22,269 --> 00:15:23,705
- Would have been 1985.
363
00:15:23,748 --> 00:15:25,533
- Sorry, these guys
all blend together,
364
00:15:25,576 --> 00:15:27,013
especially if it was
that long ago.
365
00:15:27,056 --> 00:15:28,449
- Mm-hmm.
366
00:15:28,492 --> 00:15:29,972
- But we've got records
of every vessel
367
00:15:30,016 --> 00:15:31,887
that's come and gone
from this port since the 1950s.
368
00:15:31,931 --> 00:15:33,671
Some of them have the names
of crew members.
369
00:15:33,715 --> 00:15:35,586
- Well, we need May
to December, '85.
370
00:15:35,630 --> 00:15:38,111
- All right, give me a minute
to pull the files.
371
00:15:38,154 --> 00:15:40,026
- Thank you, sir.
372
00:15:40,069 --> 00:15:42,158
[indistinct chatter]
373
00:15:42,202 --> 00:15:44,378
- ♪ I'm wired
374
00:15:44,421 --> 00:15:48,034
♪ On Red Bull
and Hennessy ♪
375
00:15:48,077 --> 00:15:52,908
♪ Higher than you
376
00:15:52,952 --> 00:15:54,388
♪
377
00:15:54,431 --> 00:15:58,261
♪ I'm on fire
378
00:15:58,305 --> 00:16:01,308
[eerie music]
379
00:16:01,351 --> 00:16:04,224
- [gasping]
380
00:16:04,267 --> 00:16:08,532
♪
381
00:16:08,576 --> 00:16:10,012
[gasps]
382
00:16:10,056 --> 00:16:11,753
[choking]
383
00:16:11,796 --> 00:16:14,234
- ♪ Peter Rabbit
and Little Boy Blue ♪
384
00:16:14,277 --> 00:16:16,714
- What the hell
is going on here?
385
00:16:16,758 --> 00:16:20,153
- Help me, please. Help me.
[door closes]
386
00:16:20,196 --> 00:16:22,068
- Oh.
387
00:16:22,111 --> 00:16:23,939
God damn.
388
00:16:23,983 --> 00:16:26,768
You think I was coming
to save you?
389
00:16:26,811 --> 00:16:30,163
Remember, now,
we said the next one's mine.
390
00:16:35,690 --> 00:16:36,082
.
391
00:16:36,125 --> 00:16:38,084
[indistinct chatter]
392
00:16:38,127 --> 00:16:40,651
- So you don't know
who the other guy was?
393
00:16:40,695 --> 00:16:42,044
- I couldn't see his face.
394
00:16:42,088 --> 00:16:44,307
It was horrible.
They were so cruel.
395
00:16:44,351 --> 00:16:47,441
They talked about the next one.
Roven said it was his turn.
396
00:16:47,484 --> 00:16:49,008
- All right, they must
have been
397
00:16:49,051 --> 00:16:51,488
working together,
for that summer at least.
398
00:16:51,532 --> 00:16:53,012
- Right.
399
00:16:53,055 --> 00:16:54,926
- This serial we're hunting...
400
00:16:54,970 --> 00:16:56,450
is Ed Roven's mentor.
401
00:16:56,493 --> 00:16:58,713
- This is the guy you said
was taking prostitutes?
402
00:16:58,756 --> 00:17:01,063
- Roven went to Texas
at the end of the summer.
403
00:17:01,107 --> 00:17:02,934
After that, we found reports
404
00:17:02,978 --> 00:17:05,024
for 31 more missing women
in Seattle--
405
00:17:05,067 --> 00:17:07,330
Caucasian, brunette,
all the victims
406
00:17:07,374 --> 00:17:09,245
were prostitutes,
runaways, or homeless.
407
00:17:09,289 --> 00:17:11,334
- Every one of them was last
seen down near Sea-Tac.
408
00:17:11,378 --> 00:17:13,119
- [sighs]
- The last woman we found
409
00:17:13,162 --> 00:17:15,077
who fit the profile,
Becky Russell,
410
00:17:15,121 --> 00:17:17,601
she went missing five days ago.
411
00:17:17,645 --> 00:17:18,950
- Maybe this is why Roven
412
00:17:18,994 --> 00:17:20,952
doesn't want us
looking for Millie.
413
00:17:20,996 --> 00:17:22,606
He's protecting his friend.
414
00:17:22,650 --> 00:17:25,609
[ominous music]
415
00:17:25,653 --> 00:17:27,872
♪
416
00:17:27,916 --> 00:17:29,352
[indistinct chatter]
417
00:17:29,396 --> 00:17:31,963
- Hey, I've gone through
the paperwork
418
00:17:32,007 --> 00:17:33,965
from the dock
master's office.
419
00:17:34,009 --> 00:17:35,532
- You find Ed Roven?
- No.
420
00:17:35,576 --> 00:17:37,230
But the summer Millie
disappeared,
421
00:17:37,273 --> 00:17:38,840
there was a private boat moored
on the marina
422
00:17:38,883 --> 00:17:40,102
called "Acquiesce."
423
00:17:40,146 --> 00:17:41,582
It stayed there
for five months
424
00:17:41,625 --> 00:17:43,323
and left two days
after Millie disappeared.
425
00:17:43,366 --> 00:17:45,281
- Something special
about that boat?
426
00:17:45,325 --> 00:17:47,283
- Mm, the captain--Amos Scott.
427
00:17:47,327 --> 00:17:48,980
He retired to Fidalgo Island.
428
00:17:49,024 --> 00:17:51,896
I sent him a photo of Millie,
but he didn't recognize her.
429
00:17:51,940 --> 00:17:53,333
But he did remember Ed Roven.
430
00:17:53,376 --> 00:17:56,466
Said Roven worked for him
that whole summer.
431
00:17:56,510 --> 00:17:58,294
- Thanks for coming in,
Captain Scott.
432
00:17:58,338 --> 00:18:00,688
- Well, it's not many things
get me over to the mainland
433
00:18:00,731 --> 00:18:03,299
these days, but a call
from the cops is one of them.
434
00:18:03,343 --> 00:18:07,129
- Captain, Detective Asante
said you remembered this man.
435
00:18:07,173 --> 00:18:10,654
- Yep.
That's Eddie.
436
00:18:10,698 --> 00:18:13,004
Signed on to my crew...
437
00:18:13,048 --> 00:18:16,312
sometime in, uh, '85,
I guess.
438
00:18:16,356 --> 00:18:18,140
Didn't stay long, though.
439
00:18:18,184 --> 00:18:20,664
- How come?
- The way Eddie was...
440
00:18:20,708 --> 00:18:22,275
he was a bit off.
441
00:18:22,318 --> 00:18:25,191
Tell you the truth, he gave us
all the heebie-jeebies.
442
00:18:25,234 --> 00:18:27,758
I was glad to get rid of him
at the end of the season.
443
00:18:27,802 --> 00:18:29,543
- Did Ed have any friends?
444
00:18:29,586 --> 00:18:31,501
- Yeah, he spent most
of his time
445
00:18:31,545 --> 00:18:33,329
with this buddy of his
from town.
446
00:18:33,373 --> 00:18:35,331
What the hell
was his name now? Um...
447
00:18:35,375 --> 00:18:37,594
- Can you describe him?
- Yeah.
448
00:18:37,638 --> 00:18:42,295
Dark hair, tan,
bit of a salesman--
449
00:18:42,338 --> 00:18:43,861
always ready with a glad hand
450
00:18:43,905 --> 00:18:46,168
and the shark eyes,
you know what I mean?
451
00:18:46,212 --> 00:18:47,691
Working construction.
452
00:18:47,735 --> 00:18:50,564
I think he got Eddie
a few jobs off the books.
453
00:18:50,607 --> 00:18:54,176
I remember one time Eddie
borrowed my truck
454
00:18:54,220 --> 00:18:56,091
and a few hundred bucks
against his salary
455
00:18:56,135 --> 00:18:58,180
to go bail this guy
out of jail.
456
00:18:58,224 --> 00:19:00,182
- Did Eddie say
what the charge was?
457
00:19:00,226 --> 00:19:01,923
- Solicitation.
458
00:19:01,966 --> 00:19:05,056
This guy picked up a prostitute
down by Sea-Tac there.
459
00:19:05,100 --> 00:19:08,364
[tense music]
460
00:19:08,408 --> 00:19:10,540
- It wasn't till 1984
that the brass
461
00:19:10,584 --> 00:19:12,194
finally convinced the city
to prioritize
462
00:19:12,238 --> 00:19:13,848
arresting johns
over working girls.
463
00:19:13,891 --> 00:19:17,547
- Well, it gives us a nice pool
of suspects to wade through.
464
00:19:17,591 --> 00:19:20,855
It's mostly out-of-towners,
guys at their bachelor party.
465
00:19:20,898 --> 00:19:21,899
- Look at this.
466
00:19:21,943 --> 00:19:23,901
- What?
You get something?
467
00:19:23,945 --> 00:19:25,338
♪
468
00:19:25,381 --> 00:19:27,253
- Frank Blair.
- What, the dock master?
469
00:19:27,296 --> 00:19:29,211
- Well, he is now,
but, yes, look at this.
470
00:19:29,255 --> 00:19:32,258
Back in '85, he was working
in construction.
471
00:19:32,301 --> 00:19:34,477
♪
472
00:19:34,521 --> 00:19:38,394
- Arrested for solicitation
on July 1, 1985.
473
00:19:38,438 --> 00:19:40,831
Bailed out
by one Edward Roven.
474
00:19:40,875 --> 00:19:42,398
♪
475
00:19:42,442 --> 00:19:44,879
- Frank Blair
is Ed Roven's mentor.
476
00:19:44,922 --> 00:19:47,882
[suspenseful music]
477
00:19:47,925 --> 00:19:51,233
♪
478
00:19:51,277 --> 00:19:53,453
- Frank Blair!
Seattle P.D.!
479
00:19:53,496 --> 00:19:56,934
- Help me! Help me!
[sobbing]
480
00:19:56,978 --> 00:19:58,109
♪
481
00:19:58,153 --> 00:20:00,460
Help!
482
00:20:00,503 --> 00:20:03,811
Help me! Help!
- Go, go, go, go!
483
00:20:03,854 --> 00:20:05,160
- Help!
484
00:20:05,204 --> 00:20:07,118
- Seattle P.D.!
Stop where you are!
485
00:20:07,162 --> 00:20:10,383
- Open it.
- [sobbing]
486
00:20:12,341 --> 00:20:13,951
- Police. Police.
487
00:20:13,995 --> 00:20:16,258
You're safe. You're safe.
- All clear, Detective.
488
00:20:16,302 --> 00:20:23,265
♪
489
00:20:23,309 --> 00:20:25,267
[elevator bell dings]
490
00:20:25,311 --> 00:20:26,790
[indistinct chatter]
491
00:20:26,834 --> 00:20:29,402
- Hey, kid, it's me.
- Hey, what's up?
492
00:20:29,445 --> 00:20:32,448
- We found Ed Roven's mentor--
a guy named Frank Blair.
493
00:20:32,492 --> 00:20:35,234
- What about Becky Russell?
- She's pretty banged up.
494
00:20:35,277 --> 00:20:37,671
But she's still alive.
- And Millie?
495
00:20:37,714 --> 00:20:41,457
- CSU is in Blair's yard now
using ground-penetrating radar.
496
00:20:41,501 --> 00:20:44,547
They think there are at least
seven bodies buried there.
497
00:20:44,591 --> 00:20:46,288
- If they find Millie,
I want to be there.
498
00:20:46,332 --> 00:20:48,029
- Well,
we're at the precinct now.
499
00:20:48,072 --> 00:20:49,509
We're booking Blair for murder.
500
00:20:49,552 --> 00:20:51,162
Meet me here.
I'll drive you over to Blair's.
501
00:20:51,206 --> 00:20:54,035
Okay, I just finished my shift.
I'll be there in 15.
502
00:20:54,078 --> 00:20:56,429
[indistinct chatter]
503
00:20:56,472 --> 00:20:58,779
[dramatic music]
504
00:20:58,822 --> 00:21:01,956
- He told me what you are.
505
00:21:01,999 --> 00:21:04,306
He told me to take your eyes.
506
00:21:04,350 --> 00:21:10,660
♪
507
00:21:10,704 --> 00:21:13,837
- [screaming]
508
00:21:13,881 --> 00:21:16,318
[car beeps]
509
00:21:16,362 --> 00:21:18,755
♪
510
00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:20,366
You're a witch!
511
00:21:20,409 --> 00:21:23,891
He told me
you have to be stopped!
512
00:21:23,934 --> 00:21:25,936
♪
513
00:21:29,462 --> 00:21:29,853
.
514
00:21:29,897 --> 00:21:32,334
[indistinct chatter]
515
00:21:32,378 --> 00:21:34,684
- Hey.
516
00:21:34,728 --> 00:21:37,034
There you go.
517
00:21:37,078 --> 00:21:38,384
Are you sure you're all right?
518
00:21:38,427 --> 00:21:40,473
- Yeah, I'm okay.
519
00:21:40,516 --> 00:21:42,170
Mm.
520
00:21:42,213 --> 00:21:43,954
- I guess that pepper spray
key chain I bought you
521
00:21:43,998 --> 00:21:45,304
came in handy after all.
522
00:21:45,347 --> 00:21:47,741
- [scoffs] You're gloating.
Really?
523
00:21:47,784 --> 00:21:50,744
- No, I'm just glad
you're safe.
524
00:21:50,787 --> 00:21:52,136
- Did they arrest the guy?
525
00:21:52,180 --> 00:21:53,747
- Yeah, he's got multiple
assault priors,
526
00:21:53,790 --> 00:21:55,314
long history of mental illness.
527
00:21:55,357 --> 00:21:58,491
Looks like you were in the
wrong place at the wrong time.
528
00:21:58,534 --> 00:22:00,362
- I'm not so sure.
529
00:22:00,406 --> 00:22:02,059
- What do you mean?
530
00:22:02,103 --> 00:22:05,498
- [sighs] I've seen him before
with Roven.
531
00:22:05,541 --> 00:22:07,195
They were talking.
532
00:22:07,238 --> 00:22:09,415
- Are you saying Roven
got someone to attack you?
533
00:22:09,458 --> 00:22:11,199
- The guy called me a witch,
534
00:22:11,242 --> 00:22:12,983
said he wanted
to take out my eyes.
535
00:22:13,027 --> 00:22:17,031
That's...
it's pretty Roven specific.
536
00:22:17,074 --> 00:22:18,859
- [sighs]
537
00:22:18,902 --> 00:22:21,949
[dramatic music]
538
00:22:21,992 --> 00:22:25,082
- I'm probably just paranoid.
Roven's a ghost.
539
00:22:25,126 --> 00:22:28,216
I mean, when he talks
to people, they can't hear him.
540
00:22:28,259 --> 00:22:32,220
- Unless they're
like you, right?
541
00:22:32,263 --> 00:22:33,874
[knock at door]
542
00:22:33,917 --> 00:22:37,094
- CSU found 13 bodies
at Blair's cabin so far.
543
00:22:37,138 --> 00:22:40,707
Preliminary IDs came in for the
women who disappeared in 1985,
544
00:22:40,750 --> 00:22:42,186
including Tara Burns.
545
00:22:42,230 --> 00:22:43,666
- Wow.
546
00:22:43,710 --> 00:22:45,886
- A lot of grateful families
are finally getting answers
547
00:22:45,929 --> 00:22:48,845
about their missing daughters
and sisters.
548
00:22:48,889 --> 00:22:51,152
- Did they find Millie?
549
00:22:51,195 --> 00:22:55,417
- There's no sign
of her at Blair's cabin.
550
00:22:55,461 --> 00:22:57,941
- If Millie was taken
the same week as Tara,
551
00:22:57,985 --> 00:22:59,769
killed by the same man,
then it stands to reason
552
00:22:59,813 --> 00:23:02,816
that they would be
buried together.
553
00:23:02,859 --> 00:23:04,905
- Frank Blair's got a lawyer,
and he's talking.
554
00:23:04,948 --> 00:23:08,256
He says he doesn't know
where Millie is.
555
00:23:08,299 --> 00:23:10,911
- Can I see him?
556
00:23:10,954 --> 00:23:13,740
Roven killed Millie.
I'm sure of it.
557
00:23:13,783 --> 00:23:15,698
If I get close
to his best friend,
558
00:23:15,742 --> 00:23:18,397
maybe I can get
something off him.
559
00:23:19,485 --> 00:23:22,096
- My client has a agreed
to cooperate.
560
00:23:22,139 --> 00:23:24,359
He can help close
over 60 cold cases today.
561
00:23:24,403 --> 00:23:26,927
- You're keen to make
a quick deal, Frank?
562
00:23:26,970 --> 00:23:28,798
- I had a good run.
563
00:23:28,842 --> 00:23:33,020
- We know you were friends
with Ed Roven.
564
00:23:33,063 --> 00:23:35,065
The only reason you gave us
the ship's manifests
565
00:23:35,109 --> 00:23:37,416
is because you knew
we wouldn't find his name
566
00:23:37,459 --> 00:23:39,026
on any of the crew lists.
567
00:23:39,069 --> 00:23:42,203
- You didn't think that we'd
look for him on private boats,
568
00:23:42,246 --> 00:23:44,945
track down retired captains?
569
00:23:44,988 --> 00:23:47,382
- You're thorough,
I'll give you that.
570
00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:51,473
- We know you and Ed Roven
took Millie Pierce.
571
00:23:51,517 --> 00:23:53,127
- I told you already--
I don't know nothing
572
00:23:53,170 --> 00:23:54,433
about that little bitch.
573
00:23:54,476 --> 00:23:56,435
- Pick one
of the 60 other cases
574
00:23:56,478 --> 00:23:59,089
my client is willing
to confess to, Detective.
575
00:23:59,133 --> 00:24:01,309
- Right after we get
an answer on this one.
576
00:24:01,352 --> 00:24:02,571
Where is Millie?
577
00:24:02,615 --> 00:24:05,182
♪
578
00:24:05,226 --> 00:24:08,316
- You're asking the wrong guy,
Detective.
579
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,362
The only man
with all those answers...
580
00:24:11,406 --> 00:24:13,016
he's long dead.
581
00:24:13,060 --> 00:24:15,976
[eerie music]
582
00:24:20,763 --> 00:24:22,635
- He'll talk.
They always do.
583
00:24:22,678 --> 00:24:24,811
- He doesn't know
where Millie is.
584
00:24:24,854 --> 00:24:26,639
I think Ed Roven took her
somewhere.
585
00:24:26,682 --> 00:24:28,075
He's the only one who knows.
586
00:24:28,118 --> 00:24:30,773
And that is why he's so sure
we'll never find her.
587
00:24:30,817 --> 00:24:32,993
And we won't, unless--
588
00:24:33,036 --> 00:24:35,648
- Unless what?
589
00:24:35,691 --> 00:24:37,911
- How do I question Roven?
590
00:24:37,954 --> 00:24:40,174
Like, get him to tell me
what he knows?
591
00:24:40,217 --> 00:24:42,263
- [scoffs]
It's not that simple.
592
00:24:42,306 --> 00:24:44,047
Detectives go through years
of training
593
00:24:44,091 --> 00:24:45,745
before they sit down
to interrogate serials.
594
00:24:45,788 --> 00:24:46,963
- Yeah, we don't have
that kind of time.
595
00:24:47,007 --> 00:24:48,530
Break it down for me.
596
00:24:48,574 --> 00:24:50,619
[dramatic music]
597
00:24:50,663 --> 00:24:53,404
- Well, there are a couple of
simple techniques you can try.
598
00:24:53,448 --> 00:24:55,537
You can ask him if he has--
- Hang on a minute.
599
00:24:55,581 --> 00:24:57,191
I'm not throwing Cassie
into a game
600
00:24:57,234 --> 00:24:59,106
of psychological cat-and-mouse
with Ed Roven.
601
00:24:59,149 --> 00:25:00,542
- I can handle myself.
602
00:25:00,586 --> 00:25:03,980
- He's not
your average visitor, Cassie.
603
00:25:04,024 --> 00:25:06,417
Spectral or not,
he is capable of harming you
604
00:25:06,461 --> 00:25:08,507
in ways that go
beyond physical.
605
00:25:08,550 --> 00:25:10,813
- We told Millie's family we
would do everything we could
606
00:25:10,857 --> 00:25:12,075
to find her.
- And we will.
607
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,947
Asante and myself.
608
00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:16,950
- [scoffs]
609
00:25:16,993 --> 00:25:20,301
So it's fine when you need
my help with a case,
610
00:25:20,344 --> 00:25:22,782
but when it's the other way
around and I come to you,
611
00:25:22,825 --> 00:25:25,262
I get shut down?
612
00:25:25,306 --> 00:25:28,483
You need to decide
how you see me, Tom.
613
00:25:28,527 --> 00:25:31,051
Am I the little girl
you want to protect,
614
00:25:31,094 --> 00:25:35,055
or am I the woman
who helps you solve crimes?
615
00:25:35,098 --> 00:25:37,579
You can't have it both ways.
616
00:25:37,623 --> 00:25:44,586
♪
617
00:25:45,587 --> 00:25:49,417
[indistinct chatter,
siren wails]
618
00:25:49,460 --> 00:25:52,551
- I'm gonna head home,
grab a shower.
619
00:25:52,594 --> 00:25:56,119
And I was thinking, on the way,
I'd stop at Council,
620
00:25:56,163 --> 00:25:58,731
talk to Cassie.
621
00:25:58,774 --> 00:26:01,560
- Sure.
622
00:26:01,603 --> 00:26:03,083
Asante.
623
00:26:03,126 --> 00:26:05,085
I've worked
my share of serials,
624
00:26:05,128 --> 00:26:07,783
but never a copycat
until Mark Waterman.
625
00:26:07,827 --> 00:26:09,916
Would you say
he was fairly typical?
626
00:26:09,959 --> 00:26:12,092
- Typical?
627
00:26:12,135 --> 00:26:15,443
[sighs] No.
Waterman was a special case.
628
00:26:15,486 --> 00:26:16,966
I chalk it up to him
629
00:26:17,010 --> 00:26:19,099
having an up-close and personal
relationship with Roven.
630
00:26:19,142 --> 00:26:20,709
Saw him work firsthand,
631
00:26:20,753 --> 00:26:24,452
but he was more dedicated
to Roven's MO and signature
632
00:26:24,495 --> 00:26:27,629
than any copycat
I've ever seen.
633
00:26:27,673 --> 00:26:29,762
I mean, their kills
were almost identical.
634
00:26:29,805 --> 00:26:30,937
Why do you ask?
635
00:26:30,980 --> 00:26:32,852
- Uh, just curious.
636
00:26:32,895 --> 00:26:34,505
- Mm.
637
00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:35,768
- I'm keeping you.
638
00:26:35,811 --> 00:26:42,078
♪
639
00:26:43,079 --> 00:26:46,300
- Wait a minute--you're sure
Roven can't hear us?
640
00:26:46,343 --> 00:26:47,649
- [chuckles]
Yeah, we're good.
641
00:26:47,693 --> 00:26:50,783
I can feel when he's here
and when he isn't,
642
00:26:50,826 --> 00:26:53,046
and right now he isn't, so...
643
00:26:53,089 --> 00:26:54,482
- It's good to know
the universe
644
00:26:54,525 --> 00:26:56,136
has your back
a bit in all this.
645
00:26:56,179 --> 00:26:58,138
- Yeah.
Where do we start?
646
00:26:58,181 --> 00:26:59,748
- [chuckles] Mm.
647
00:26:59,792 --> 00:27:01,097
Let's talk about Roven.
648
00:27:01,141 --> 00:27:02,316
You know, a guy like that,
649
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,274
he needs to feel
that he's in control,
650
00:27:04,318 --> 00:27:06,450
that he's the smartest person
in the room.
651
00:27:06,494 --> 00:27:08,975
All right, you have to go in
there and rock his confidence.
652
00:27:09,018 --> 00:27:11,325
You have to make him give you
the information you need.
653
00:27:11,368 --> 00:27:14,197
- Okay. I-I've already tried
asking him.
654
00:27:14,241 --> 00:27:16,852
- No, you were feeding his ego
instead of attacking it.
655
00:27:16,896 --> 00:27:19,376
It's not that psychopaths
have no feelings.
656
00:27:19,420 --> 00:27:21,683
They just have no empathy
for anyone but themselves.
657
00:27:21,727 --> 00:27:23,163
Now, you can get to Roven.
658
00:27:23,206 --> 00:27:25,078
It just has to be
about his needs,
659
00:27:25,121 --> 00:27:28,385
not yours and not Millie's.
660
00:27:28,429 --> 00:27:31,258
Challenge him.
Push him.
661
00:27:31,301 --> 00:27:34,348
Make Roven prove he's smarter
and better than you
662
00:27:34,391 --> 00:27:37,351
by giving you
what you want.
663
00:27:37,394 --> 00:27:40,659
- You want me to piss him off?
664
00:27:40,702 --> 00:27:42,704
- In a nutshell, yeah.
665
00:27:42,748 --> 00:27:44,663
Look, it's a dangerous move,
and I won't lie
666
00:27:44,706 --> 00:27:47,666
and say that I know exactly
how Roven's gonna react,
667
00:27:47,709 --> 00:27:49,537
because I don't.
668
00:27:49,580 --> 00:27:51,539
[sighs]
But based on his profile,
669
00:27:51,582 --> 00:27:54,934
it's the one that will best
get a reaction.
670
00:27:54,977 --> 00:27:57,719
- Right.
Okay, I can do that.
671
00:27:57,763 --> 00:27:59,025
- Mm.
672
00:27:59,068 --> 00:28:00,896
So what do you got
in your arsenal?
673
00:28:00,940 --> 00:28:03,725
- I think he cares
about Millie.
674
00:28:03,769 --> 00:28:06,859
When he realized I'd seen her,
he seemed jealous.
675
00:28:06,902 --> 00:28:08,556
- Great.
Use that.
676
00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:10,210
Lift that rock,
and you'll see
677
00:28:10,253 --> 00:28:14,040
all the squirmy bugs
that run through his brain.
678
00:28:14,083 --> 00:28:15,650
Uh, there's something else.
679
00:28:15,694 --> 00:28:18,958
It's something
I wouldn't mention otherwise.
680
00:28:19,001 --> 00:28:20,786
You look like Millie.
681
00:28:20,829 --> 00:28:22,352
I don't think
he's hanging around you
682
00:28:22,396 --> 00:28:23,919
just because you can see
and hear him.
683
00:28:23,963 --> 00:28:27,618
- Gross.
684
00:28:27,662 --> 00:28:30,186
Anything else?
685
00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:32,406
- Well, there's this quote...
686
00:28:32,449 --> 00:28:35,409
by Friedrich Nietzsche
we used to say at the Bureau.
687
00:28:35,452 --> 00:28:39,326
"If you gaze long
into an abyss...
688
00:28:39,369 --> 00:28:43,722
the abyss
also gazes into you."
689
00:28:43,765 --> 00:28:46,986
Ed Roven is the abyss.
690
00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:49,771
- I'll be careful.
I promise.
691
00:28:49,815 --> 00:28:52,687
[dramatic music]
692
00:28:52,731 --> 00:28:54,689
Hey.
693
00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:56,778
Thank you.
694
00:28:56,822 --> 00:28:58,780
- Anytime.
695
00:28:58,824 --> 00:29:04,307
♪
696
00:29:11,967 --> 00:29:13,490
- Here goes nothing.
697
00:29:13,534 --> 00:29:16,493
- ♪ Peter Rabbit
and Little Boy Blue ♪
698
00:29:16,537 --> 00:29:20,454
♪ Hidden in the brush
with Mr. Magoo ♪
699
00:29:20,497 --> 00:29:23,457
♪ Along came McDonald
with his trusty gun ♪
700
00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:26,939
♪ And he goes,
"Everybody run" ♪
701
00:29:26,982 --> 00:29:30,072
♪ Peter Rabbit
702
00:29:30,116 --> 00:29:33,423
♪ Peter Rabbit
703
00:29:33,467 --> 00:29:35,948
♪ Peter Rabbit
704
00:29:35,991 --> 00:29:38,080
♪ He'll be hopping along
705
00:29:38,124 --> 00:29:40,953
♪
706
00:29:40,996 --> 00:29:43,216
♪ Peter Rabbit and--
707
00:29:50,832 --> 00:29:54,401
[eerie music]
708
00:29:54,444 --> 00:30:01,625
♪
709
00:30:01,669 --> 00:30:04,106
- Hey.
710
00:30:04,150 --> 00:30:05,847
We need to talk.
711
00:30:09,068 --> 00:30:09,285
.
712
00:30:09,329 --> 00:30:11,505
- You're playing
with fire, girl.
713
00:30:11,548 --> 00:30:13,724
Careful you don't burn
your fingers.
714
00:30:13,768 --> 00:30:16,815
- Did you hear
about your buddy, Frank?
715
00:30:16,858 --> 00:30:19,469
He's telling
the cops everything.
716
00:30:19,513 --> 00:30:22,864
Says he killed more women
than Ted Bundy.
717
00:30:22,908 --> 00:30:26,433
Says they'll be finding bodies
for years.
718
00:30:26,476 --> 00:30:27,738
- Not Millie, though.
719
00:30:27,782 --> 00:30:30,089
- No, because she was
too special
720
00:30:30,132 --> 00:30:32,787
to go into that pit
behind Frank's house.
721
00:30:32,831 --> 00:30:34,833
You didn't want that
for her.
722
00:30:34,876 --> 00:30:36,704
You're sweet on her.
723
00:30:36,747 --> 00:30:40,360
You think that loving Millie
made you human,
724
00:30:40,403 --> 00:30:41,970
made you normal.
725
00:30:42,014 --> 00:30:45,365
But that's
just a fake-out...
726
00:30:45,408 --> 00:30:47,149
a con.
727
00:30:47,193 --> 00:30:49,543
You're not better than Frank.
728
00:30:49,586 --> 00:30:53,286
You couldn't control yourself.
729
00:30:53,329 --> 00:30:54,722
You're pathetic.
730
00:30:54,765 --> 00:30:57,116
- Careful now.
731
00:30:57,986 --> 00:31:01,424
- Do I remind you
of her, Eddie?
732
00:31:01,468 --> 00:31:04,036
Is that why you started
coming around?
733
00:31:04,079 --> 00:31:06,212
Because I look like
the girl you lost?
734
00:31:06,255 --> 00:31:08,040
- You ought to stop.
735
00:31:08,083 --> 00:31:10,781
- Is it the eyes or the hair?
736
00:31:10,825 --> 00:31:12,174
- I mean it.
737
00:31:12,218 --> 00:31:13,480
- Hmm?
738
00:31:13,523 --> 00:31:17,397
You didn't lose Millie, Ed.
You killed her.
739
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,356
And you enjoyed it.
740
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,532
Just like you'd kill me...
741
00:31:22,576 --> 00:31:24,883
if you could.
742
00:31:24,926 --> 00:31:26,841
You're thinking about it.
743
00:31:26,885 --> 00:31:29,888
Ah, look at you...
744
00:31:29,931 --> 00:31:33,804
just dying to wrap those hands
around my throat
745
00:31:33,848 --> 00:31:35,937
and squeeze.
746
00:31:35,981 --> 00:31:37,896
♪
747
00:31:37,939 --> 00:31:39,680
But you can't hurt me.
748
00:31:39,723 --> 00:31:42,770
- Can't I?
[breathing shakily]
749
00:31:42,813 --> 00:31:45,599
I'll show you.
750
00:31:45,642 --> 00:31:48,558
I'll show you
what I did to her.
751
00:31:48,602 --> 00:31:50,821
I'll show you everything.
752
00:31:50,865 --> 00:31:53,389
- Do it, then.
753
00:31:53,433 --> 00:31:56,392
Come on, you coward!
- [screams]
754
00:31:56,436 --> 00:31:58,568
- [gasps]
755
00:31:58,612 --> 00:32:05,445
♪
756
00:32:10,667 --> 00:32:13,496
- Pretty, ain't she?
757
00:32:13,540 --> 00:32:15,890
♪
758
00:32:15,934 --> 00:32:19,241
The way
she looked at me...
759
00:32:19,285 --> 00:32:22,201
with those emerald eyes
of hers...
760
00:32:22,244 --> 00:32:24,768
- She didn't know
you were a killer.
761
00:32:24,812 --> 00:32:26,248
- Not yet, I wasn't.
762
00:32:26,292 --> 00:32:29,599
Never killed anything
didn't have four legs
763
00:32:29,643 --> 00:32:32,428
and a brain
the size of a plum.
764
00:32:32,472 --> 00:32:34,604
When I was with Millie,
765
00:32:34,648 --> 00:32:37,042
I didn't think about that.
766
00:32:37,085 --> 00:32:38,913
- And when you were
with Frank?
767
00:32:38,957 --> 00:32:42,003
- [chuckles] Well, now...
768
00:32:42,047 --> 00:32:44,788
that was a different story.
769
00:32:44,832 --> 00:32:47,008
That's the summer
I fell in love with Millie
770
00:32:47,052 --> 00:32:50,620
and the summer I discovered
who I was.
771
00:32:50,664 --> 00:32:54,973
- [choking]
Help me.
772
00:32:55,016 --> 00:32:57,279
- Oh, Cottontail.
773
00:32:57,323 --> 00:33:00,108
Did you think
I was coming to save you?
774
00:33:00,152 --> 00:33:03,285
Remember, now, you said
the next one's mine.
775
00:33:03,329 --> 00:33:05,722
Frank showed me
a whole new world.
776
00:33:05,766 --> 00:33:09,204
And it was as dark
as Millie's was light.
777
00:33:09,248 --> 00:33:12,816
I could have gone on
like that forever--
778
00:33:12,860 --> 00:33:14,818
spending my days
with Millie,
779
00:33:14,862 --> 00:33:17,647
my nights with Frank.
780
00:33:17,691 --> 00:33:21,912
♪
781
00:33:21,956 --> 00:33:25,177
I had everything I wanted.
782
00:33:25,220 --> 00:33:29,268
It was Frank who said
I had to choose.
783
00:33:29,311 --> 00:33:32,836
When I couldn't,
I guess he chose for me.
784
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:40,105
♪
785
00:33:46,546 --> 00:33:48,809
- No!
[screaming]
786
00:33:48,852 --> 00:33:50,506
Help me!
787
00:33:50,550 --> 00:33:52,769
[whimpering]
Help me!
788
00:33:52,813 --> 00:33:54,032
Help me!
[choking]
789
00:33:54,075 --> 00:33:57,252
[screaming]
No, stop!
790
00:33:57,296 --> 00:33:58,732
Please, no!
Stop, please!
791
00:33:58,775 --> 00:34:01,126
- Millie swore
she wouldn't tell.
792
00:34:01,169 --> 00:34:02,866
She just wanted to live.
793
00:34:02,910 --> 00:34:05,869
In that moment,
she'd promise me anything.
794
00:34:05,913 --> 00:34:07,958
♪
795
00:34:08,002 --> 00:34:10,570
But I knew she was lying.
796
00:34:10,613 --> 00:34:16,837
♪
797
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,882
- [sobs]
798
00:34:18,926 --> 00:34:24,105
♪
799
00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:27,717
- I couldn't stand her staring
at me like that...
800
00:34:27,761 --> 00:34:29,893
begging...
801
00:34:29,937 --> 00:34:31,199
pleading.
802
00:34:31,243 --> 00:34:33,245
Those pretty eyes of hers
were almost enough
803
00:34:33,288 --> 00:34:34,898
to sweet-talk me
out of it.
804
00:34:34,942 --> 00:34:37,336
♪
805
00:34:37,379 --> 00:34:38,511
Almost.
806
00:34:38,554 --> 00:34:40,817
- You didn't take out
her eyes?
807
00:34:40,861 --> 00:34:42,384
- No, ma'am.
808
00:34:42,428 --> 00:34:46,388
But I never gave another girl
a chance to change my mind.
809
00:34:46,432 --> 00:34:47,520
- [sobs]
810
00:34:47,563 --> 00:34:50,958
- You're never gonna
find Millie, never.
811
00:34:51,001 --> 00:34:53,308
- [gasping]
812
00:34:53,352 --> 00:34:55,876
- You okay there, Cottontail?
813
00:34:55,919 --> 00:34:57,704
- Get away from me.
814
00:34:57,747 --> 00:34:59,097
- [chuckles]
815
00:34:59,140 --> 00:35:00,968
- Get away!
816
00:35:01,011 --> 00:35:04,537
♪
817
00:35:04,580 --> 00:35:07,540
[sobbing]
818
00:35:07,583 --> 00:35:14,634
♪
819
00:35:23,512 --> 00:35:23,817
.
820
00:35:23,860 --> 00:35:25,819
- Hey.
821
00:35:25,862 --> 00:35:28,822
[dramatic music]
822
00:35:28,865 --> 00:35:30,432
♪
823
00:35:30,476 --> 00:35:33,566
You all right?
- Never better.
824
00:35:33,609 --> 00:35:37,700
♪
825
00:35:37,744 --> 00:35:40,050
I think I know where Millie is.
826
00:35:40,094 --> 00:35:43,576
Roven wanted to remember her
when she was happy.
827
00:35:43,619 --> 00:35:46,318
He told me
it was a lovely spot.
828
00:35:46,361 --> 00:35:48,407
♪
829
00:35:48,450 --> 00:35:51,497
It's where they met.
830
00:35:51,540 --> 00:35:53,325
[dog barks]
831
00:35:53,368 --> 00:35:56,545
[indistinct chatter
over police radio]
832
00:35:56,589 --> 00:35:59,548
[siren wails]
833
00:35:59,592 --> 00:36:02,943
[indistinct chatter]
834
00:36:02,986 --> 00:36:05,815
♪
835
00:36:05,859 --> 00:36:08,122
- It looks like
it's gonna be a long day.
836
00:36:08,166 --> 00:36:09,471
The ground's frozen in places,
837
00:36:09,515 --> 00:36:11,778
and after 30 years
of soil displacement,
838
00:36:11,821 --> 00:36:14,346
moisture, decomposition...
839
00:36:14,389 --> 00:36:17,218
- Don't get my hopes up.
840
00:36:17,262 --> 00:36:18,611
I've got it.
841
00:36:18,654 --> 00:36:22,963
♪
842
00:36:23,006 --> 00:36:26,184
[indistinct chatter, dogs bark]
843
00:36:26,227 --> 00:36:29,012
♪
844
00:36:29,056 --> 00:36:30,797
- I just, uh...
845
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,581
wanted to check in on you.
846
00:36:32,625 --> 00:36:34,496
- Thanks.
847
00:36:36,759 --> 00:36:40,415
You weren't kidding
about the abyss.
848
00:36:40,459 --> 00:36:43,505
What those women
went through...
849
00:36:43,549 --> 00:36:45,290
I know it wasn't happening
in the moment,
850
00:36:45,333 --> 00:36:49,468
and there's nothing
I could do to save them.
851
00:36:49,511 --> 00:36:51,644
I just wanted to look away,
852
00:36:51,687 --> 00:36:54,299
shut my eyes.
853
00:36:54,342 --> 00:36:55,822
But Millie--
she came to me,
854
00:36:55,865 --> 00:36:58,825
and she asked
for my help, so...
855
00:36:58,868 --> 00:37:03,438
I forced myself to watch...
856
00:37:03,482 --> 00:37:06,789
when he killed her.
857
00:37:06,833 --> 00:37:09,183
She was just so scared.
858
00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:12,055
And even though
she couldn't see me,
859
00:37:12,099 --> 00:37:14,232
I guess I was hoping
860
00:37:14,275 --> 00:37:17,278
that the universe would...
861
00:37:17,322 --> 00:37:21,326
somehow find a way
to connect us so that...
862
00:37:21,369 --> 00:37:24,677
in that moment...
863
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:27,070
she'd know she wasn't alone.
864
00:37:27,114 --> 00:37:30,726
It sounds crazy.
- It doesn't.
865
00:37:30,770 --> 00:37:33,163
You did a great thing.
866
00:37:35,296 --> 00:37:38,212
- GPR's hit on something
about 30 feet from the gazebo,
867
00:37:38,256 --> 00:37:40,693
down by the trees,
but it's getting dark.
868
00:37:40,736 --> 00:37:43,043
We're gonna have to come back
in the morning.
869
00:37:43,086 --> 00:37:46,176
- I guess Millie's waited
this long, so...
870
00:37:46,220 --> 00:37:48,396
[indistinct chatter]
871
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,486
♪
872
00:37:51,530 --> 00:37:54,359
- I'll see what we can do.
873
00:37:54,402 --> 00:37:57,318
[men grunting]
874
00:37:57,362 --> 00:38:04,586
♪
875
00:38:10,636 --> 00:38:14,292
[shovels scraping]
876
00:38:14,335 --> 00:38:16,163
♪
877
00:38:16,206 --> 00:38:17,773
- I got something!
878
00:38:17,817 --> 00:38:21,037
♪
879
00:38:21,081 --> 00:38:24,737
[indistinct chatter
over police radio]
880
00:38:24,780 --> 00:38:27,392
♪
881
00:38:27,435 --> 00:38:30,830
[car doors open, close]
882
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:37,402
- We came as soon
as we got your call.
883
00:38:37,445 --> 00:38:38,881
- Is she here?
884
00:38:38,925 --> 00:38:41,493
Did--did you find her?
885
00:38:41,536 --> 00:38:44,322
- She's here.
886
00:38:44,365 --> 00:38:46,585
[somber music]
887
00:38:46,628 --> 00:38:48,630
- That's hers.
888
00:38:50,153 --> 00:38:52,373
That's Millie's.
889
00:38:52,417 --> 00:38:54,854
- [sobbing]
890
00:38:54,897 --> 00:38:56,377
- Do you know who did this?
891
00:38:56,421 --> 00:38:59,293
- We believe the man
was executed many years ago.
892
00:38:59,337 --> 00:39:01,295
♪
893
00:39:01,339 --> 00:39:03,297
- We can talk about it
when you're ready.
894
00:39:03,341 --> 00:39:05,299
- [crying]
895
00:39:05,343 --> 00:39:07,519
♪
896
00:39:07,562 --> 00:39:09,956
- Thank you...
897
00:39:09,999 --> 00:39:12,175
for bringing
our little girl home.
898
00:39:12,219 --> 00:39:14,613
♪
899
00:39:14,656 --> 00:39:16,397
- This way, please.
900
00:39:16,441 --> 00:39:23,012
♪
901
00:39:27,843 --> 00:39:30,368
- ♪ Someone, somewhere
902
00:39:30,411 --> 00:39:35,198
♪ Somewhere,
somewhere in summertime ♪
903
00:39:35,242 --> 00:39:37,418
♪
904
00:39:37,462 --> 00:39:41,988
♪ Someone, somewhere,
someone, somewhere ♪
905
00:39:42,031 --> 00:39:44,643
♪ In summertime
906
00:39:44,686 --> 00:39:46,949
♪
907
00:39:46,993 --> 00:39:51,824
♪ Somewhere, somewhere
908
00:39:51,867 --> 00:39:54,653
♪ In summertime
909
00:39:54,696 --> 00:39:56,568
♪
910
00:39:56,611 --> 00:40:01,573
♪ Somewhere, somewhere,
somewhere, somewhere ♪
911
00:40:01,616 --> 00:40:04,358
♪ In summertime
912
00:40:04,402 --> 00:40:07,013
♪
913
00:40:07,056 --> 00:40:10,495
- [breathes deeply]
914
00:40:10,538 --> 00:40:12,018
- ♪ In summer...
915
00:40:12,061 --> 00:40:13,628
[door buzzes, clanks]
916
00:40:13,672 --> 00:40:18,198
- All C Block inmates
prepare for yard detail.
917
00:40:18,241 --> 00:40:20,983
[door closes]
- Mr. Waterman.
918
00:40:21,027 --> 00:40:22,855
- Detective Hackett.
919
00:40:22,898 --> 00:40:25,118
This is a surprise.
920
00:40:27,903 --> 00:40:30,210
- I hear you're pleading
insanity.
921
00:40:30,253 --> 00:40:32,908
- [inhales deeply] The big
defense lawyers were lining up
922
00:40:32,952 --> 00:40:35,041
to work for me pro bono.
923
00:40:35,084 --> 00:40:37,870
It's a headline-grabbing case,
they say.
924
00:40:37,913 --> 00:40:40,873
Apparently I have PTSD
925
00:40:40,916 --> 00:40:43,876
from witnessing Ed Roven
kill my mother.
926
00:40:43,919 --> 00:40:45,486
- And that drove you to kill?
927
00:40:45,530 --> 00:40:47,314
- Allegedly.
928
00:40:47,357 --> 00:40:50,099
- Did you ever see Ed Roven
after that night?
929
00:40:52,493 --> 00:40:53,929
Did you ever hear his voice?
930
00:40:53,973 --> 00:40:55,278
- At the trial.
931
00:40:55,322 --> 00:40:56,976
- What about after
he was executed?
932
00:40:57,019 --> 00:40:58,412
- That's an odd question.
933
00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:00,632
How would I be able
to see and hear a dead man?
934
00:41:00,675 --> 00:41:02,895
- I've heard of things
like that.
935
00:41:02,938 --> 00:41:05,201
The way you murdered
Shannon Bell,
936
00:41:05,245 --> 00:41:07,160
it was very similar
to Ed Roven's work.
937
00:41:07,203 --> 00:41:09,423
Beyond copycat, really.
938
00:41:09,467 --> 00:41:10,903
It's almost like he's
whispering in your ear,
939
00:41:10,946 --> 00:41:12,252
telling you what to do.
940
00:41:12,295 --> 00:41:15,255
[ominous music]
941
00:41:15,298 --> 00:41:17,257
♪
942
00:41:17,300 --> 00:41:18,737
- That's crazy.
943
00:41:18,780 --> 00:41:21,217
♪
944
00:41:21,261 --> 00:41:23,698
[breathes deeply]
Are we done?
945
00:41:23,742 --> 00:41:25,439
- Yeah, we're done.
946
00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:29,922
♪
947
00:41:29,965 --> 00:41:32,011
I'll see you at court.
948
00:41:32,054 --> 00:41:35,101
I'll be testifying
for the prosecution.
949
00:41:35,144 --> 00:41:39,758
[door buzzes, opens]
950
00:41:39,801 --> 00:41:41,716
[door closes]
- Come on.
951
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,719
[dramatic music]
952
00:41:44,763 --> 00:41:47,679
[door buzzes]
953
00:41:47,722 --> 00:41:54,990
♪
954
00:42:00,082 --> 00:42:02,171
- Tell you what, son...
955
00:42:02,215 --> 00:42:06,219
it might be about time
we bust you out of here.
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