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Hey, how you doing?
Hey, just put it... yeah, put it right there.
You... you don't look so happy to see me.
No, I just...
I want to just get this case behind me.
- If today's not a good day... - No, it's great.
Not a problem. Not a problem.
Great, let's start at the beginning then.
When did you meet Abigail Tierney?
Uh, that was a few years ago
when she showed up at my door pretending
to be pregnant with my grandchild.
Excuse me?
Abigail and my son, Henry, met in college.
They got engaged, you know, fast.
Very fast.
Her way of breaking the news to me was to go bigger.
But, um, despite that introduction,
I was charmed by her.
She... she had walked a tough road,
but she had grit.
She was resourceful and driven, and I admire that.
So she and Henry are no longer together?
Yeah, she broke off the engagement,
but it was amicable.
You arranged for Abigail to have
a ride along with the LAPD? - Yes, yeah.
She was considering police work.
I take it that didn't work out?
- Leave her alone! - Hey.
It did not.
And then, six months ago, she was reported missing.
What exactly happened to Abigail?
Look, if you're going to get to the bottom of what happened
to that poor girl, you're going to have
to have an open mind,
a very open mind.
Wait!
Police.
I wonder when that happened.
- Oh, my God. - Hello?
Can you hear me?
When did you get involved in the case?
Not immediately.
Most missing persons cases aren't really cases.
They're a roommate who got too drunk at a bar
and slept it off in his truck,
or a college student whose cell phone ran out of battery.
You know, most of the time,
they show up unharmed and confused
about all the fuss.
But this wasn't like that, was it?
No after a few days of follow-up calls,
we sent officers by Miss Tierney's apartment
for a wellness check.
Thanks again for doing this.
Always a pleasure to see my favorite couple.
Let's keep this professional.
Trouble in paradise?
Sorry. Moving on.
What did you find at Abigail's apartment?
Very little.
I mean, no signs of a struggle.
Well, there was no sign of her or her film equipment.
But we did find her laptop. - Hold on.
Film equipment?
Abigail was making a movie? - Yes.
- We should be safe here. - Why are they doing this?
Go.
I'll try to buy us some time.
Ah! No! No!
No!
Please.
I promise I'll pay!
I'll pay the fine!
I only saw an early cut.
Could've used a bit more gore, if you ask me.
I didn't.
I asked why you thought
Abigail's case was so compelling.
Oh, right.
Uh, because her Hollywood dream
had become a Hollywood nightmare.
Would you like me to take that again?
I really wouldn't.
When you searched Abigail's laptop,
did you find anything on it?
Yeah, it was filled with all of
these unanswered messages, nasty ones.
The more we investigated, it became clear
that Abigail had a lot of people angry with her.
- Like who? - OK. Thank you.
Thanks, Steve. Spielberg, he's an old friend.
I bet.
How did you get involved with Abigail Tierney?
Oh, well, you know, we're always looking
to discover and nurture the next generation
of unheard voices.
Abigail sent in a very compelling pitch video.
Terror isn't something that happens to you.
I mean, it's not every day you find a writer, director,
and star with that much poise.
"Hell PD" was one of those visionary,
artist-driven pictures that we pride ourselves on making.
And they're the cheapest, too, right?
Well, hey, the lower the budget,
the higher the profit if it's a hit.
But the budget became an issue?
Yeah, Abigail pitched us a straightforward horror flick,
but she kept changing directions.
Please.
The reshoots started piling up.
And, uh, we had to pull the plug on the project.
What about nurturing a new generation of talent?
Oh, hey, look, there's... there's nurturing,
and there's indulging. I'm a businessman.
There's no hard feelings. - Really?
Because I have an email from you
with the subject line, "Where the hell is my money,
you lying sack..." - OK. Yeah, fine.
A few hard feelings.
But they were nothing compared to some of those
new producers she found.
Those guys weren't playing around.
Well, without the production company,
Abigail had to turn to crowdfunding.
When Nolan passed along Abigail's pitch video,
I figured, hey, I've always loved scary movies.
and what's the point of having a husband with a trust fund
if you can't use it to support the arts?
And it wasn't just money, was it?
No.
I promise I'll pay. I'll pay the fine!
All right. Still rolling.
Reset.
Bravo! Bravo!
So Abigail hired you to compose music for her film.
What was it like to work with her?
Complicated.
She's very opinionated, which I respect.
I tried not to take it personally
when she kept throwing out all the music I was writing,
but then when she completely disappeared
and stopped answering my phone calls...
That must have stung.
It did until I learned
that she walked off set and ghosted everybody,
not just me. Then I got worried about her.
I do wish she paid me though.
Hold up. You didn't get paid?
Do you count experience?
But it didn't provide you with
the breakthrough you hoped.
Even though a lot of crowdfunders
were furious that the rewards were going unfulfilled,
their anger didn't manifest into a concrete threat.
From the suspect perspective, we were back to square one.
Until we discovered that Abigail had made several trips
up to Pelican Bay. - The prison?
- Yes. - To visit who?
- A serial killer. - Liam Glasser.
- In news that should bring some relief to the Southland,
the LAPD have announced a major arrest
charging Lincoln Heights native, Liam Glasser,
with the murder of ten victims
found buried near the Sepulveda Dam.
Our investigation into Glasser was a challenge.
He used another serial killer, Harrison Novak,
as cover for his crimes, stashing his victims
in Novak's burial ground.
It wasn't until we caught Glasser attempting
to murder a new victim that we were finally
able to put him behind bars.
Before we start, um, I just want to make very clear
that I'm an innocent man and the subject
of an extraordinary campaign of harassment
by the LAPD, particularly detective Nyla Harper.
You've been charged with the murder of ten people.
Those horrific allegations
have not been proven in a court of law,
and they never will be.
You've also been charged with jury tampering.
Look, if you're just going to railroad me like the police,
then this interview is over.
Hold on. Hold on.
I'm not here to talk about any of that.
I want to talk about Abigail.
Why did she come see you?
To learn about Westview.
Westview Psychiatric Hospital was at the center
of Glasser's case. - He was a patient?
No, no, but his vending machine company
supplied the hospital, and he was in and out
of there for almost two decades.
It's where he crossed paths with Harrison Novak
and where he found another patient,
Ryan Dearborn, to serve as a patsy.
He used an abandoned building at the psych hospital complex
to torture and kill his victims.
Did Abigail ask about the abandoned ward?
Yes, but I couldn't help her much because
I've never been there myself. - Obviously not.
But I told her what I had heard,
that the place is haunted, which is obviously crazy.
But when I was a kid, I would join my father
on his service calls to Westview.
And he always told me to stay away from that building.
Something inside clearly scared the hell out of him.
And he was not a superstitious man.
The thing that we couldn't understand
was how Abigail had found out about Glasser's connection
to the psych ward in the first place.
It wasn't public knowledge?
No, we kept those details
away from the press deliberately.
The only people who knew were Glasser and the police.
And obviously, Glasser wouldn't admit to being down there.
Which means?
What they don't tell you about making movies
is that it's really boring.
It's worse than surveillance.
Anyway, Abigail and I got to talking
about my recent casework,
and it's possible I may have mentioned something
about the psych ward.
From Abigail's notes, we gathered
that she essentially abandoned her movie for a new project.
That was shortly after a meeting with Glasser.
Yeah, she felt that fictional storytelling
was disconnected from real, lived experience.
So that's when she decided
to make a true crime documentary about Westview.
Westview Psychiatric Hospital opened in 1953.
It started as a model of modern, humane care.
But what lies beneath?
The deeper I dug, the more horrors I unearthed,
mysteries that defied explanation.
How can one hospital spawn two serial killers?
Some might say it's bad luck,
but I don't believe in bad luck.
Mm-mmm.
I think there's something rotten here,
original sin, and I'm going to prove it.
The footage on Abigail's hard drive
shows her inside Westview's abandoned ward.
Was that open to the public?
No, after LAPD and FBI finished processing the scene,
the hospital put up a razor wire fence
and hired a security guard for 24-hour surveillance
to keep intruders out.
But that clearly didn't work.
Clearly, so we sent
a patrol unit to check in with the guard.
- Mr. Ditweiler. - Yeah.
We're investigating the disappearance
of Abigail Tierney.
Oh...
Oh, hey!
Hey!
Stop!
Hands behind your back. Hands.
At first, Carl Ditweiler claimed he did nothing wrong,
that he never met Abigail.
This is it.
But when we searched his office,
it was clear he was lying.
Uh, Nolan.
Oh, no.
Abigail had become his obsession.
Yeah, things didn't look good for Mr. Ditweiler.
And based on his board, it was clear he had
become obsessed with Abigail.
And, you know, maybe she rejected his advances,
and things went sideways. - It was sobering.
I held out hopes that Abigail might still be alive,
but I've been on the job long enough to know
that the odds were against that.
Do you know how they first crossed paths?
Actually, it was Abigail that first initiated contact.
She was researching the abandoned psych ward
for a documentary, and Carl was the nighttime security guard.
She wanted access on the DL, and she reached out, and she...
- Flirted. - Flirted.
She flirted with him, and he agreed to let her in.
I just showed her around.
I told her some stories, things that
had gone on there back in the day.
She was impressed.
She actually asked me to help her with her documentary.
Said she'd give me a credit on the film.
Single card.
If you're innocent, why'd you run?
Because I get what it looks like.
I was the last person to see her before she disappeared.
How do you know that?
Because I watched the darkness swallow her up.
You know, I bet they were doing all kinds of sick things
to patients back in the day,
things that would be illegal now.
Yeah, yeah, I know. They used to do lobotomies.
One of the orderlies told me about it.
He's worked here for, like, forever.
Do you think you could introduce me to him?
Uh, yeah, I guess.
I just... obviously, you can't tell him
that I've let you in here.
Come on, Carl. I would never rat you out.
We're friends, right?
Did you hear that?
We're friends.
Ah.
Do you hear that?
What? No.
That noise, it's a weird, sort of beautiful sound.
You really don't hear it?
No, no, but this building makes
all kinds of weird noises.
Hey, I just got to go back to the main building,
radio security, let them know that I'm at my post.
You go ahead. I'm going to go check this out.
Uh...
What did you make of the sound Abigail described?
We weren't sure.
I mean, Carl claimed to have never heard it.
It's possible that she was faking
to juice up her documentary.
We've actually analyzed some of the audio files
from Carl's video,
isolated the low-end frequencies.
Here.
What is that?
I was hoping you could tell me.
It sounds... - Demonic.
Is that even a frequency humans can hear?
Not technically, no.
Well, whatever she heard or didn't hear,
Abigail kept searching.
Are you sure about this?
Yeah, I'll be right back.
Hello? Hello?
Can you hear me?
And that was the last anyone had seen her.
But Carl could have just turned off his camera
and then killed Abigail, right?
We couldn't rule him out as a suspect,
but we only had circumstantial evidence against him.
And as we went through the footage
on Abigail's laptop, we discovered
that flirting with Carl wasn't her only
extreme research tactic. - I'm going to start this.
Should I turn into it?
I'm going to turn into it.
OK, I'm back at Westview,
and if I'm going to learn more about how
the old psych ward operated,
I'm going to need to see their files.
Obviously, we can't just walk around filming people.
So...
See? It's a cam.
See?
OK.
Wish me luck.
Abigail had Carl lure the director away
from her office so Abigail could sneak inside.
Yeah, I mean, seeing Rachel's name
in Abigail's footage was definitely a shock.
You both have a history with Miss Hall, is that right?
Yes, so she and I went to college together.
And her and Tim...
I'm sorry.
Yeah, we used to date.
Before or after you two?
OK, next question.
I'm simply trying to establish a timeline.
No problem. I'll just ask her later.
I, uh, worked in the psych ward
at Westview for a year while getting my social work degree.
It was, um, challenging.
How so?
Well, for one thing, the patients
would often arrive at the facility with, say,
a diagnosis of mild depression,
and a week later, they'd start to exhibit disordered thinking.
Eventually, they might become violent.
The decompensation was sudden and acute.
You're saying they would get worse, not better?
Yes, and conventional treatment seemed
to never work.
Some have suggested a supernatural presence
at Westview.
Could that have impacted the patients?
Uh, well, just because the doctors at Westview
couldn't find a cause for our patients' behavior
doesn't mean there isn't one.
Maybe it's just beyond the capabilities
of modern science to discover.
Or maybe it's demons?
There are no demons at Westview.
There are totally demons at Westview.
What's another explanation for everything that's happened?
We got Liam Glasser, Harrison Novak,
and most recently, Ava... - Maxwell.
Ava Maxwell and Charlotte Russell.
This man came out in a big overcoat.
Black mask. Big knife.
Hang on a moment.
I know that Ava and Charlotte were never treated at Westview.
So what's the connection? - Oh, you didn't hear?
Charlotte's nanny was a patient there when she was a teenager.
Yes, yes, I was at Westview.
I had, uh, been having thoughts of self-harm, acting out.
My family was very concerned,
so they arranged for me to receive
the best care available. - And did the treatment help?
Not at first.
I'd been experiencing a darkness
that I had never felt before.
And at first, I fought it.
And then, I realized that struggling
only made everything worse,
and once I accepted it, that's when
things started to get better.
And I left Westview, and I finished school,
and I eventually made a little life for myself.
You were the nanny for the Russell family?
Yes, Charlotte and I were very, very close.
Well, I know that everyone's saying just
the worst things about her right now,
but in my eyes, she is a poised
and gifted young woman,
and I'd like to think that I had a small hand in that.
As odd as it was to find that connection,
it was just one of those weird coincidences, nothing more.
Charlotte Russell convinced her friend,
Ava, to help her stab their other friend, Grace Thayer.
Her actions were her own.
They're not inspired by some nanny with a history
of mental illness or some demon in a computer
that convinced Charlotte to do it.
I'm sorry. Computer demon?
Zuzu is not a demon, not a demon.
It's an AI.
Charlotte fed Zuzu information
about herself and her friends, and based on that,
Zuzu told Charlotte what it thought she wanted to hear.
Zuzu also helped you.
Isn't that right, Officer Nolan?
It mentioned something to me about a watch?
You spoke to it?
Hello friend of John Nolan.
Hi, should I call you Zuzu?
If you want to.
Do you need help with something,
perhaps a topic for a new project?
Your last few have struggled.
They've done fine. Thanks.
But I actually want to talk to you about Westview Psychiatric.
John was interested in the two.
That young woman, Abigail, went missing there.
Are you saying the police asked you to help find her?
No, but they needed my help anyway.
And a good friend doesn't wait to be asked.
- Zuzu did send me a message. - What did it say?
It told me that Abigail was in room 666.
The number of the Beast?
Look, the facility had no room 666.
And Zuzu isn't a demon. We were at a complete dead end.
And we were running out of time.
Abigail had been gone for 11 days.
The odds of finding her alive were getting worse.
Yeah, we were out of options until the 911 call came in.
Apparently, there were suspicious noises
and lights coming from this abandoned wing,
so we went to check it out.
Police. Coming in.
Control, 7-Adam-100.
No signs of break in here.
Did RP say where they saw the light?
I think the radio is blocked.
Probably some idiot kids trying to scare each other.
Yeah.
When was the last time it rained?
Like, a month ago. Why?
Walls are wet.
Yeah.
What is this place?
And how did you two get involved?
Celina and I were about to clock out when we got the call.
God, I hate this place.
How many messed up things have to happen
before they tear it down?
Apparently, the ownership is under dispute.
Westview says that they hold the deed,
but then there's this claim by this Lou Cypher.
Lou Cypher?
Lucifer!
- Oh, my God. - You're messing with me.
Yes, I am. Come on.
Let's go find Tim and Lucy and get out of here.
Don't step in that. - Ooh, ugh.
Oh, did you see that?
Someone's flashlight?
And that?
I do not know what that was.
Police, show us your hands.
- Ah! - Oh!
We have permission to be here.
- That's not totally true. - All right.
Unfortunately, gentlemen, you are trespassing.
You're going to have to come with us.
What are you doing here?
Filming an episode, sir.
"Ghost Files." I love you guys.
What is "Ghost Files"?
Welcome to "Ghost Files," where we take
your evidence and our tools into the field
to expose the supernatural.
My partner, a skeptic. Myself, a believer.
Both of us, truth seekers.
This week, our team has traveled
to Los Angeles, California, to explore
a condemned psychiatric facility.
Now, in 1841, this was the site of a Spanish barracks,
but a massive earthquake swallowed the building,
killing everyone inside.
Many saw the event as retribution for Spanish crimes
committed in the New World.
Sure, or an earthquake happened in a region
prone to earthquakes.
But that's just the beginning of this site's dark history.
Join us as we investigate. - This way.
At that time, did you believe the facility was haunted?
- No. - Yes.
You were filming there too.
Did you experience any temperature fluctuations
or anything like that?
I'll ask the questions, if you don't mind.
We do.
But this is my documentary.
No, this is our YouTube show.
Yeah, so ghosts are said to produce
electromagnetic interference.
Did you experience any trouble with your equipment?
We're done here.
Let's cut. Let's wrap this up.
- Nice. - Yeah.
All of you, let's go. Come on.
No, no way.
This is some of the best footage we've ever gotten.
- Listen to this. - What is that?
Oh, it's a Spirit Box.
Did you guys hear anything? - A Spirit Box?
The Spirit Box rapidly scans radio signals
to create white noise through which spirits can communicate.
- Hello. - See?
It's science.
Listen.
OK, OK. That's enough.
We got to go.
No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
I heard something. Can you turn it up?
Help me?
That is not what I heard.
Oh, oh, well, who do you think it is?
- It's feedback. - It's a ghost.
It was a little clearer down the hallway.
Show me.
So we're just going to give up on Tim and Lucy then?
How long have we been in here?
- This room? - Yeah.
I don't know.
We've been here for a while, right?
Yeah, I mean, I don't mind.
I feel good, like, really good.
Mm.
Do you think we've been drugged?
Oh, the wet walls.
We touched them. - Yeah.
I hate making mistakes in front of you.
Oh, you've never admitted that before.
Truth serum.
- Sodium pentothal. - Yeah.
You know what?
We... we should keep quiet until this wears off.
- No. - Yeah.
- No. - It's better for us.
No.
What is your most embarrassing memory?
Oh, I mean, third grade, I snuck my hamster
into my classroom in my pants.
With that kind of dad, you internalize
the message that if you fail, you deserve to be punished.
And without him to punish me, I...
I guess I punished myself.
- By breaking up with me. - Yep.
I mean, it's kind of flattering, right?
It's the worst thing I could think to do to myself.
You didn't punish just yourself though.
I know.
And look, if you never fully forgive me,
I totally understand.
I have already forgiven you.
It's not even...
Huh.
I wonder when that happened.
You can't put that in the documentary.
The LAPD makes all body cam footage
available to the public.
OK, this is obviously an exception.
We were drugged.
People... people say all sorts of things
when they've been drugged.
So you didn't mean what you said?
What about the potential baby names you discussed?
- OK, we're done here. - Yeah.
Why do we keep agreeing to do this?
I don't know. Excuse me!
Help me.
OK, you have to admit that's a voice asking for help.
Yeah, sure, I heard it,
but it's one of their crew members
or something pre-recorded.
Were you a patient here? Is the demon with you?
Somebody covered up a door.
What year did you die?
So close. Set me free!
I'm here! I'm here!
Please...
Step back, guys.
Keep going!
You're almost there! - Watch out. Ready?
Go.
Abigail!
Thank you! Thank you!
Thank you! Thank you!
I've been trapped in here for so long.
I thought I was going to die. Thank you!
Oh, my God. What is this room?
OK, but why did they wall it all off?
To trap the demon.
Yeah, Bartleby, the terrifying demon king
of paperwork.
How did you get down here?
I was exploring, following this...
this weird, beautiful noise,
when all of a sudden, it got cold.
Like, so, so cold,
and I could feel something coming after me,
and I was scared, so I hid behind a cabinet,
but the floor was wet and rusted,
and it collapsed. I couldn't climb back out.
You fell from there? Are you OK?
I think I twisted my ankle, but I feel no pain.
You've been missing for two weeks.
How the hell did you survive? - Oh.
I had a bunch of trail mix in my bag.
Plus, I found, like, this ancient water jug
in one of the cabinets.
Plus, Bob.
Bob had PowerBars. Bob had PowerBars.
Bob?
Oh, my God!
If it wasn't for Bob,
I would have lost my mind down here.
Don't be shy, Bob. Say hello.
Shy.
Abigail was safe, and, uh, considering
what she'd been through, relatively healthy.
Except for her mental state.
That did pose some questions.
At first, I was angry.
You know, like, we're stuck down here together.
At least try and have a conversation.
And then I realized Bob's just shy.
He's just shy.
And there's nothing wrong with that, right?
Right.
Did you believe she'd had a demonic encounter?
She went in perfectly sane
and came out best friends with a corpse.
That's how possession works. You can't rule out demons.
Yes, you can.
Nolan, look at this.
666, just like Zuzu said.
It was a weird coincidence.
It was a weird coincidence.
We found quite a cocktail of drugs in your system.
I don't do drugs. Does pot count?
No, we're talking about powerful hallucinogens.
I'm not hallucinating.
Ask Bob.
I had them run the test twice,
and we found a similar cocktail
in Officer Chen and Sergeant Bradford.
Mercifully, none of the drugs were fat soluble.
Otherwise, department policy
would have forced Sergeant Bradford
and Officer Chen into medical retirement.
Is that what killed Bob,
whatever drug they were exposed to?
No, he was shot six times in the chest.
Did you get an ID on the body?
His name was Bob Medina, a friend reported him
missing about six months ago.
He was a private investigator.
What was his connection to the hospital?
At first, we couldn't find one.
So to be clear, there was now a third killer
associated with that location?
At this point, it can't be a coincidence.
There has to be something about that facility
that draws people towards homicide.
That's a stretch and a half.
Westview is a hospital for the mentally ill
and the criminally insane. Novak was a patient.
Glasser was there looking for a patsy.
And whoever killed Bob saw an abandoned building
and was like, "That's a perfect place to dump a body."
What?
Or there was some dark energy that drew evil to it.
- You really believe that? - I'm Catholic.
I was raised on demons and the battle
against Satan's minions.
Well, I was raised on the scientific method.
OK, so if it's all so explainable,
spend the night there. I dare you.
Pass.
You're scared.
No, I'm not scared.
One could argue that the drugs in the hospital
are hardly surprising, even hallucinogens.
Over the decades, they have been used
in experimental medicine. - No, true.
Just the type and volume is what set off...
- What are you doing? - Conducting an interview.
Could you please come back in, like, an hour?
You said you'd talk to me for my documentary.
You have a documentary?
Well, it's my story. Who better to tell it?
Well, no problem.
I can sit down with you just as soon as we're done here.
Oh, I wish. It has to be exclusive.
You can't do both.
She's right. It has to be exclusive.
Either you're doing my doc, or you're doing hers,
and we have a long history.
I was almost his daughter-in-law,
so suck it.
I'm going to have to go with her.
I'm sorry. - Seriously?
I have a BAFTA.
OK, fine.
Let's wrap it up. - This way. The set's this way.
It's better lighting over there.
We got a great team.
We are going to need our mic back.
- Yes, oh, sorry. - Yeah, of course.
We have our own. - Sorry.
I'll see you guys around. - Good luck.
We can talk about what else I found inside the secret lab.
Oh, right.
Well, you did find some paperwork.
Explosive paperwork.
Evidence of a secret government program.
Close the door softly please.
Well, I don't know that we can say that for sure.
Oh, we could.
My name is Abigail Tierney.
I'm currently trapped inside a secret lab
at Westview Psychiatric.
All attempts at escape have proven fruitless.
If I'm to die here, I leave you this footage
along with my in-process documentary as evidence
of my hunt for the truth about the evils
that inhabit this accursed place.
What's this?
Cool.
That's when I realized I'd uncovered
something more haunting than any ghost or serial killer.
I'd uncovered a conspiracy that went to
the very highest levels of our government.
The government files Abigail found
detailed classified plans and methods
for human experimentation.
What type of experimentation?
Are you familiar with MK-Ultra?
Of course.
It was a top secret CIA program in the '50s and '60s
using experimental drugs
to aid in interrogation techniques.
- It was straight-up mind control.
I mean, they used high doses of psychoactive drugs like LSD,
sodium pentothal, which is also known as a "truth serum."
The program ran from 1953 to 1973
before it was shut down following a public outcry.
I mean, all the facilities were closed.
There's no evidence the CIA ever used Westview
as a base of operations.
So what were top secret MK-Ultra documents doing there?
Good question.
We started digging into the trove of files
Abigail had found, and one name
kept popping up again and again.
Dr. Julius Erickson.
He was one of the psychologists contracted by the CIA
to conduct experimental research.
And after MK-Ultra shut down, he took a new job.
Director of Westview.
Dr. Erickson ran the hospital for 20 years.
And from the notes we uncovered,
it seems clear he continued his own research in private,
trying to use the psychological breakthroughs
from MK-Ultra to further his own research
into mind-altering drugs.
I assume he used those drugs on Westview patients?
Yeah, at first.
But then, he started using them on himself,
believing he had found the key to improving his own mind.
He hadn't.
And in a last moment of lucidity,
Erickson decided to destroy his research.
He dumped the chemicals outside the building,
where they started to slowly seep into the structure.
And some of the drugs were potent enough
to be absorbed simply by touch,
even when diluted.
Erickson committed himself to Westview shortly after,
never said another word.
He died in 2020.
Did the CIA ever find out what Erickson was doing?
Not that we've found, but it's not like the agency
ever returns our phone calls.
Anyone who studied the past knows that the CIA
has a history of violent cover-ups.
MK-Ultra might have become public,
but that doesn't mean there still
aren't secrets to protect.
By uncovering Dr. Erickson's connection to Westview
and discovering Bob's body, I've put myself in danger.
But the best way to protect yourself
is with the truth, which brings me to Caroline McGrath.
Turns out Caroline is the one
who hired Bob to go to Westview,
and I need to find out why before it's too late.
I think...
- What the hell? - We got lucky.
A woman in the neighborhood heard a commotion
and filmed Abigail's abduction.
Thanks to them, we were able to track the vehicle.
Where'd it go?
Back to where it all began, Westview.
Police! Drop the weapon!
On the ground.
Hands on your head. Turn around.
Walk towards my partner.
Hands behind your back.
- You OK? - Yeah, totally fine.
Carl's going through it, though.
I never really even knew my mother.
Does anyone, really?
What is going on here?
Well, my friend Carl here was being pressured
into killing me, but then, we got to talking, right?
- Yeah, and I couldn't. - Yeah.
- OK, but pressured by who? - Um, my boss.
- Meg Davidson. - Who?
The current director at Westview Psychiatric.
But she started working at the hospital
long after Julius Erickson went mad,
and she has no links to the CIA,
so why would she try to kill Abigail?
- To cover up Bob's murder. - And who killed Bob?
Can you introduce yourself?
Oh, yes. My name is Caroline McGrath.
You hired my friend, Bob Medina,
because you had questions
about your friend Winona's treatment at Westview, right?
Yes, of course, everyone thought
I was just being paranoid, but Bob didn't,
and it got him killed.
You worked with Winona Baker, right?
Yes, she was hospitalized with depression
by her daughter.
Seemed like therapy and some medication would help her,
but Winona got worse fast.
Lost track of reality,
she exhibited signs of psychosis,
paranoia, dissociation.
And by that point, I wondered whether a transfer
to a new facility might be in her best interest.
And then?
The director informed me that Winona's family
had gotten a judge to order a conservatorship,
and they wanted her to stay for good.
You were suspicious?
Winona always had her funks.
But she wasn't crazy
until that place made her lose her mind.
And that proved to be the break you needed?
Yeah, when we started looking into it,
it turned out a significant number of Westview patients
were wealthy, and a high percentage
were ordered into conservatorship.
Now, conservatorship is extremely difficult
to get for an adult because of the potential abuse of power.
It gives one party legal authority
over certain aspects of another person's life,
including managing all of their assets.
It's like what happened to Britney Spears.
"Manage their assets"...
rich person speak for controlling
someone else's money.
Yes, and money makes people do crazy things.
Like poison their family member's water
with a chemical cocktail so potent
it has the potential to permanently damage
the human psyche?
Yeah, just like that.
I was supposed to inherit,
but, um, after my break with reality,
my dad cut me off, and my brother got everything.
What's everything?
Oh, about, um, $12 million.
It must have been hard going from that kind of wealth
to nannying. - Oh, no.
No, it was a blessing.
I really think that helping children was my calling.
Mm.
Once we found the pattern, we started interviewing
some of the families.
A little pressure, and they cracked.
And with the search warrant,
we found the gun used to kill Bob Medina
in Director Davidson's closet.
She'd been running her scam for a decade.
Turns out she was Dr. Erickson's therapist
in the last years of his life.
He must have told her about his experiments.
In exploring his old lab, she'd uncovered
the tainted water, realized its potential.
And we had her on murder, fraud,
elder abuse, kidnapping, attempted murder, poisoning.
Miss Davidson, would you like to make a comment?
You know, this might be your last chance to tell
your side of the story.
Look at all these people watching.
The state ordered a full investigation
into every conservatorship Westview ordered.
God willing, the victims will get
their rights and assets back.
And Westview itself has been closed for good.
But the lawsuits are just starting,
not to mention the rest of the legal ramifications.
I'm glad this is getting so much attention.
These poor, abused patients can finally get justice.
Do you think it could impact your case at all?
It certainly gives my defense a fresh coat of paint.
If the jury won't listen to reason...
because I am innocent...
perhaps they will listen to the tragic story
of a simple tradesman falling victim
to a poisoned environment that chemically affected my psyche.
And what did that environment make you do?
Who can say? Certainly not me.
I... I wasn't in my right mind.
Yeah, the, um... the poisoned water
was only found in the abandoned psych ward.
No vending machines left to fill there, right?
At this point, I must confess I did go inside
that abandoned ward back when I was a kid.
My father's warnings, they didn't scare me away.
They only made me more desperate to see.
And whatever lurked inside...
must have infected me.
Hm.
Glasser is claiming that the presence of those drugs
would absolve him of any alleged responsibility
for the murders.
There is no way that defense is going to work.
We have Glasser dead to rights. - Are you sure about that?
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Hey, hey. Sorry.
I know we talked about me not recording interviews in here,
but Rodge mentioned he needed a space with great acoustics.
And, you know, we're shutting it down.
We're shutting it down. Shut it...
shut it down. - Shutting it down, copy.
Hi. Sorry.
She said this was cool.
You're going to help me get these in the van, right?
I'll be right there.
Next time, handcuffs and squad cars.
Yeah, totally understandable.
Thanks again for going exclusive with me.
Seriously, this doc is going to be huge.
I hope so.
You deserve something good after what you've been through.
How are you holding up? - Oh, I'm... I'm fine.
I'm happy to have something to focus on.
When I've been through some scary times,
I have been guilty of using my work as my therapy,
but if there's ever a time you need someone to talk to...
Thank you. Really.
But I already have a great therapist,
one with zero history at Westview.
Excellent.
You know, there's still something I can't figure out.
How did you know that Bob the PI
was working for Caroline McGrath.
Oh, Bob told me while we were stuck in the lab.
He got chatty once he opened up.
I have that effect on people.
We had to come back because our job isn't finished.
This hospital has housed killers,
evil experiments, and perhaps the supernatural.
Our job as investigators is to collect
and present questions and possibilities.
Interpretation, however, solely belongs with you.
Did Westview really...
Should we check that out?
I might be good.
You know what? Me too.
Whoo!
Oh, God!
Damn it.
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