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This programme contains themes of child abuse and discussions about drugs

Michael Jackson met Gavin Arvizo in 2000.

He was ten years old and he was dying of cancer.

Michael wanted me to edit a short film of Michael

and Gavin.

And I don't think it was meant for the public to see.

When I see that footage it makes me uneasy.

Is it possible that Michael is a child molester,

is it possible that he did something to this kid?

Can you copy?

Dozens of investigators swarmed Michael Jackson's Neverland ranch.

The search is tied to allegations from

a 12-year-old boy that he was molested by Jackson.

Sherrif's Department. We have a search warrant.

I was told if you say or do anything you're going to kill your career.

Are there any secret rooms?

Michael had some kind of control over me.

I didn't say what I should have said.

Tonight, Jackson is wanted by police.

The entire accusations against Michael was a scam.

Michael Jackson under arrest.

He had a succession of boys coming through his room

and spending the night.

He could abuse children almost with impunity.

I remember Gavin's mom saying,

"I don't care what he offers,

"I will never take the devil's money."

The jury in Santa Maria, California has reached a verdict.

If he is found guilty,

it will be a journey not back

to Neverland but straight to prison.

Do you think he's innocent? After everything you've seen,

do you still think he's possibly innocent?

Michael Jackson has a lot at stake.

After years of scandal and some pretty odd behaviour,

The King of Pop may have to fight to retain his title.

At one time the singer Michael Jackson was

the hottest showbiz act in the world

but then his career drastically declined.

When I met Michael Jackson,

he was renting this beautiful townhouse right off

Central Park. I walk in, and Michael's in this room.

It was a little bit like this, you know.

It was, not a lot of light.

And he's very shy.

Michael was very shy.

So, I just started asking him questions like,

"What are you doing in New York?" "Well, Shmuley,

"I'm finishing my Invincible album."

Little did I realise that was going on for like

a decade already.

I was the Rabbi at Oxford University for 11 years.

And because I was so involved in

the space of helping people order their lives,

I felt that I could do that for Michael.

I mean, everyone knew that Michael Jackson was troubled in some way,

that he was a little bit off. He was different.

In fact, if we want to be

a little bit less kind, he was called Wacko Jacko.

We start talking,

and the conversation just began to roll.

Probably turned into a two, three-hour meeting.

And then he starts sharing even

these very private things immediately.

Testing, one, two, three. Testing.

OK. Let me ask you about, were you happy?

When I was little?

Nobody has heard those tapes before.

And the things that Michael reveals in those tapes have no precedent.

How did I feel listening to it? it? Unnerved.

But I did begin

to understand Michael so much more deeply.

KNOCKING

Joseph had this thing. "I'm raising men,

"not boys." Crying was unacceptable.

Anything that he thought made them appear

the least bit feminine,

that didn't sit well with him at all.

His father had wanted him to be a performer

but had never given him unconditional love.

He said to me,

"Do you understand that from the age of five I was taken

"to nightclubs where we saw stuff..." Nightclubs.

His brothers, any time they were on tour,

when they were adults,

there were many women that they would go in

and out of hotels with, all that, you know,

rock and roll stuff.

Except for Michael. Michael would run away from it.

Sometimes, even by his own admission, he would cry.

He always said to me he found it disgusting.

Did it lead him to believe that sex can be disgusting?

Yeah, possibly.

That's not the best way

to discover what love and sex is about.

Michael was robbed of that childhood innocence,

and Michael spent his life trying to get

the world's attention,

thinking it might compensate. And it never did.

I met Michael Jackson in 1984.

The Jackson Five was on the Victory tour.

Their reunion.

Michael introduced the moonwalk to the world at that time.

- I saw Michael Jackson! Michael Jackson! - I saw him.

At that time,

his popularity was through the roof.

When you think about 1984

and you think about Michael Jackson,

you think about this dark-skinned black man who women,

whether they were black, white or whatever,

they were crazy about.

And thought he was the most handsome dude there was.

He was sexy. He was charming. He was electric.

He was the King of Pop.

And then there was this mystery to him,

too, because he never really said much.

He lives here with his mother and two sisters,

a boa constrictor, a llama,

and a room full of mannequins. He loves mannequins.

He is a Jehovah's Witness. Neither smokes,

drinks, nor swears, loves Disneyland and is very shy.

And then Michael did something weird.

In the late '80s, early '90s,

he stopped really having adult friends.

I know family members were wondering what's happening there.

He basically cut them off. And then,

of course, he built this amazing place, Neverland.

It was a very isolated ranch, like 3,000 acres,

so there was this contradictory dichotomy of him on

the one hand being

the most recognisable entertainer on Earth

and then on the other hand never visible.

It was the summer of 2000.

My family and I arrived in Neverland.

Michael was so reclusive, never visible,

always hidden away. And I would say to him,

"You're a youthful guy and you don't have friends here."

He was totally alienated from his father.

And I began to understand that Michael was living a nightmare.

- Michael! - Stop pulling it down. - Michael. - Stop. - Michael!

They're getting hurt.

Come on watch your fingers. Put your hand down.

You're so beautiful. You're so beautiful.

Watch your fingers.

I love you. I love you.

Working for Michael Jackson was a sea of madness all the time.

Michael, did you sign my picture from yesterday?

Can you give it back to me, please?

I didn't see it. I'm sorry, I didn't see it, I don't have it.

OK we've got to go. We have to go.

Watch out. We have to go. Watch your head.

Watch your head. Watch your head. Pull it back.

Why aren't they helping us out there? The security.

OK. All the way up, all the way up. Let go.

I was a 21-year-old producer trying

to make it in Hollywood.

One project led

to another project, and before I know it,

I'm working for the biggest star in

the history of stardom, Michael Jackson.

From that day on, for the next few years,

me and Michael's Director of Photography filmed everything

for Michael.

Going into a public place

with Michael Jackson can only be

properly or sufficiently understood if you actually have seen it happen.

CHEERING

There is no comparison to Michael Jackson fans versus

the rest of fandom. It is an entire different planet.

SCREAMING AND CHEERING

It is people that truly look at Michael Jackson not just as a man,

but also as a god and a religion.

CHEERING

It's like the biblical version of modern stardom.

But I have very,

very few memories

of when I actually felt like Michael was happy.

I think that the only times that I really saw

Michael happy was when he was playing,

when he was, when he was surrounded by kids.

And that's why Neverland was perfect for Michael Jackson.

If any kid could build their dream house,

they would build Neverland Ranch. A train station,

a carousel, roller-coasters, a zoo. It was just surreal.

Michael Jackson in my opinion was just a kid.

I never saw a sexual side of Michael Jackson.

I saw an asexual man who wanted to be 12 years old

and wanted to have water balloon fights.

Welcome to Neverland. And have a wonderful day. OK?

Thank you.

CHEERING

We love you.

I saw a ton of kids visit Neverland.

I saw a ton of sick kids with big smiles on their faces.

- Thank you. - Thank you.

You have all these sick kids who came to Neverland Ranch

and met Michael Jackson

and met this Peter Pan-like figure

and had the time of their lives

for one day before they went back to a cancer hospital.

Michael wanted me

to understand that he had noble motives,

that he was a good person, that he had a kind heart,

that he was genuinely devoted to children in general

and to sickly children in particular.

Michael kept on saying to me that a child who has cancer,

who he had met and befriended was coming to stay for the first time.

Gavin Arvizo was a ten-year-old kid. He was small,

he was frail, and he had terminal cancer.

I remember having to edit a short film of Michael

and Gavin.

The video was made for Gavin's family

and for Michael to enjoy and for Michael to have.

And I don't think it was meant for the public to see.

The first time you see it,

I think you're a little taken back,

especially if you don't know Michael Jackson really well.

It felt really uncomfortable

because it's an adult man seemingly having like a picnic

with a ten-year-old.

It shows Michael and Gavin holding hands,

and the soundtrack that Michael specifically wanted

to use was I'll Be There, which is a really,

really sweet song,

but it seems to sound like a little bit of

a romantic song to the adult ear.

But he wanted to be his best friend.

He wanted to give this kid

the best possible memories that he could at the end of his life.

We're going to walk out of the shot.

I walked into Gavin's hospital room

and there was

a gigantic gift basket full of things like PlayStations.

And I said, "Who gave you that?" And Gavin said, "Michael."

That's the first time I heard about

the involvement of Michael Jackson in Gavin's life.

I was teaching stand-up comedy at The Laugh Factory

to kids from tough neighbourhoods

and Gavin was naturally funny.

The Arvizos lived in East LA in a one-bedroom apartment.

There were mattresses on the floors

and sheets dividing where the parents slept

and where the children slept.

Janet Arvizo had three kids. She was an effervescent,

outgoing person who wanted

to give her kids opportunities,

even though they didn't have a lot of money.

Gavin was a very affectionate child

and his father had been abusive so he craved attention.

We had comedians that worked frequently at

The Laugh Factory helping out as mentors.

I saw a lot of people going out of their way

to help Gavin and his family

and so he was introduced to Michael Jackson

because they thought he would get joy out of it.

Gavin would talk to me about

the fun he was having at Neverland

and how I should go with them.

Janet told me that Michael

and Gavin were doing a lot of pranks,

a lot of sneaking up on people,

a lot of playful wrestling.

And I would say,

"Where is everyone sleeping?" She would say,

"Oh, we're sleeping in the cottages."

I never said to her, "I worry,"

but my view was that Michael Jackson probably had

a sexual attraction for children.

I knew about the Jordan Chandler accusations.

So, this is ten years prior to Gavin.

Michael Jackson is at

the centre of a criminal investigation.

Pop superstar Michael Jackson is facing allegations of child abuse.

He knew how to manipulate his world.

I am not guilty of these allegations

but if I am guilty of anything it is of giving all I that have to give

to help children all over the world.

Jackson settled this case out of court

and paid his accuser an estimated $20 million.

There is a widespread feeling that he still had something to hide.

Michael Jackson built an amusement park in

the middle of nowhere.

I don't think that's

the behaviour of somebody who's not attracted sexually

to children.

But we don't know the truth

because we're not in the room.

So, all we can do is formulate an opinion.

And I wasn't worried about Gavin being targeted

because he had cancer, he was dying.

I thought, why not let him go, pet the giraffe?

Just enjoy it.

Michael and Gavin had obviously created

a bond through Gavin's sickness,

and his family had an obvious

and reasonable reason to really adore Michael.

My name is Star

and I really feel sad about my brother all sick

and everything.

All they know about

the cancer is aggressive and everything. That's it.

The youngest son of the Arvizos was named Star.

And when you met Star,

all he talked about was his future in comedy and TV.

Star just wanted to be a famous kid.

Star wanted to be a TV host.

Star wanted so much of the LA and fame world.

And obviously,

if you're put in Michael Jackson's world

and you have access to cameras and Neverland Ranch,

you've just found your way to the big time.

Good evening. Welcome to the Neverland Channel.

My name is Star. Here we are live at the Neverland Park.

As you can see,

the kids are excited and they're full of popcorn.

Michael paid for a big production crew to make a television pilot.

You are watching the Neverland Channel.

All kids. All fun. 24 hours around the world.

And it was the exploits around Neverland Ranch.

Meeting the elephants,

feeding the giraffes, going on the train.

Look at... Michael has

so many fields of grass. I love being here.

Sort of like Nickelodeon at Neverland.

Whoa. Look at all sorts of rides over there.

Gavin was in it a little bit. But Star was the host.

As you can see, I'm here with the elephants

and their trainer. Could I ask you...?

It was obviously done out of the kindness of Michael's heart

to make this child Star feel good about something,

or to do something for the child.

And there you have it.

The exclusive of Neverland pre-historic animals.

BEEP

And... And there it is. The exclusive of the elephants.

BEEP

And that's a wrap.

On the surface, Neverland looks like a marvellous experience

for children,

and they felt like the most special little boys in

the world. They craved more of that.

Here I am with my very, very good friend of mine, Gavin.

But Michael Jackson was really good at seducing these kids.

He presented himself to the world as, "I am Peter Pan,"

and the spin control that he had never had

a childhood was to disarm us.

Well, my favourite show is...

But it was a facade.

..because I want to be the greatest dancer in the world.

Gavin was a fierce little boy, but he suffered.

They had to remove a giant tumour from his abdomen.

They also removed one of his kidneys.

I said goodbye

to him in my prayers every night when I left

the hospital. We thought he would die.

Michael helped arrange blood transfusions.

He helped arrange certain cancer cares.

And who knows why or how,

but somehow Gavin Arvizo survived a terminal form of cancer.

My heart just broke wide open. And he...

And he was really going to recover,

and I was just overwhelmed by that.

We went and bought Christmas presents.

I remember that Gavin's hair had all grown back.

I was almost in tears.

But when I saw him that Christmas and he was healthy,

that's when I worried about how he

might really now be in harm's way regarding Michael Jackson.

After Gavin got better,

Janet told me that she wasn't able to get through

to Michael Jackson

and they were not being invited back to Neverland.

So, there was all these confusing things that were happening.

But I know how Gavin is

and, you know, once he became friends with Michael Jackson,

he wanted to spend time with Michael.

Well, after spending three years

and a reputed $20 million,

Michael Jackson is out to rock the word

with his first studio album of new songs in ten years.

I am at The Beverly Hills Hotel meeting Michael Jackson

for the first time.

I had received a phone call from

a friend at Sony who was complaining

and very worried that

the Michael Jackson record was not

going to come in on time. And that was a problem

because that's costing

a million dollars a minute kind of thing.

My role was to make sure that they could get a record in.

When you work with like rap artists

and stuff like that it is like, no hookers,

no blow, we've got to get this in

and we've got a due date of the 15th.

I'm there to talk business.

But then there was a mysterious man that just kind of showed up with

a briefcase full of just pharmaceuticals.

There was loads of pills and drugs. Demerol was a big one.

And then we zipped around the corner and went to a pharmacy

and picked up more drugs.

And I'm like, what the hell? What is this?

Genius? What are you talking about? He's drugged out.

In the studio,

I realised very quickly that we

are not focused on what we should be focused on.

He doesn't wake up until three in the afternoon

and then you are sitting there, like, waiting,

for hours and hours and hours

and then he gets up and, "I don't feel like it."

He wasn't even there half the time.

I thought, "Why isn't anybody saying anything?"

He was surrounded by yes people

and if you didn't say yes, you were whisked into the corner.

- Michael! - Michael! - REPORTERS SHOUT

My biggest concern was the fact that he is woozy

and out of it all the time.

The fact that he would call me up from Neverland,

here in this house and say to me, "Shmuley, I love you, I miss you."

REPORTERS SHOUT

And I would say to Michael, "You know this is going to kill you."

"Shmuley it's not medical, it's this..."

I said, "Michael, you are too smart to talk yourself into this.

"There is nothing medical about this.

REPORTERS SHOUT

I was trying to save him from a downward spiral.

Thank you for waiting, really appreciate it.

- Michael! - Michael!

At that time, Michael was divorced.

I felt very strongly that he needed a wife.

He needed a soulmate.

He needed someone who would ground him.

Let's go shake 'em up.

Let's show what you do to the crowds with your daddy in the window.

They have been there since six o'clock this morning.

Look, now they're out there...

He had been married to Debbie Rowe,

and they two kids together.

SHOUTING OUTSIDE

CHEERING

People were already speculating about the marriage.

Was she a surrogate mother, was it a real marriage?

Michael made a decision to have kids that were not African Americans.

Shake. Do you want a Life Saver? Shake yourself.

He did not want them to have the looks of his father

and he did want have the traits of his father.

In 2000, he divorces Debbie Rowe,

and then suddenly he is raising the kids by himself.

They were probably three and two at the time, and very attached to him.

I was trying to resuscitate and rehabilitate Michael -

not his career, but his personhood.

You know to get him - let's have a more normal schedule.

Let's get the kids out with play dates with other kids.

Let's even get the kids maybe into school -

and then he wasn't being productive with his artistry.

It's a continuous kind of train wreck ride

of not being able to focus on this record.

You can see where it's going.

It's heading towards a tragedy.

A self-imposed tragedy.

Michael! Michael! Michael! Michael! Michael! Michael!

Shortly after the album comes out,

we are committed to go to several record stores.

One of them, being the biggest,

is the Virgin megastore in New York City, Times Square.

Michael! Michael! Michael!

He didn't want to be there.

There was kind of like this feeling of hope being lost.

CROWD CHEERS

A hit, that's what they want.

THEY SCREAM

Well, that's not what they got.

$30 million later...

..they get a clunker.

His latest album, Invincible,

only sold a disappointing two million copies in the US.

Invincible? I don't think so.

The train keeps going.

Where is the next stop coming to, folks?

Michael! Michael! Michael!

Michael! Michael! Michael! Michael! Michael!

Jackson shocked the world,

dangling his own son from high atop a hotel balcony.

Once I saw him dangling his child,

I mean that was game, set match point for me.

That man shouldn't be around children.

What's with your brother?

My brother is not a crazy character.

He is not the Wacko Jacko that people say.

He was just caught up in the moment.

Michael calls Jermaine after the Larry King interview

and says, you know, "Don't do any more interviews

"I have something coming up,

"it is going to just blow everyone away.

"People are going to be amazed.

"They are going to be shocked with what I got coming."

He talked about what turned out to be The Martin Bashir documentary.

I started getting calls from someone who worked with Martin Bashir,

his Jewish producer trying, like, to pull the Jewish card.

"Hi, Shmuley. You're a Rabbi.

"You therefore have to help me get my boss Martin Bashir

"to interview Michael Jackson,"

and I went to Michael, and I said, "I don't know Martin Bashir,

"but the thing he did with Diana was not good."

Bombshell after Bombshell dropped by the Princess of Wales

in her first-ever prime time television interview.

A British public unaccustomed to television therapy sessions

heard their fairy tale princess

admit to having an extra marital affair, an eating disorder.

I have known the Jackson family for going on close

to half a century.

I was the attorney to the family for many years

and I knew all about the Martin Bashir documentary

way far in advance.

Michael's managers asked Michael if there were any children

that they could bring to Neverland Ranch to film for the documentary,

and Gavin Arvizo's name came up.

Michael hadn't seen Gavin for a year and half.

So many people warned him,

"Don't do the Martin Bashir documentary. Don't do it.

"He will hurt Michael.

"He hurt Princess Diana.

"Diana divorced Charles as a result,

"and you are going to do a documentary

"with Martin Bashir, Michael?

"Don't do it, Michael."

There's a nervousness, a very nervous, tense vibe

about him doing this documentary at Neverland, right?

This is an indicator that people are nervous

about what Michael could be doing or saying,

because you can't control him.

What happens when you spend eight months with Michael Jackson?

ABC Start dropping amazing commercials.

See for yourself.

It's Michael Jackson.

It looked like it was going to be a phenomenal show -

and everyone is excited.

The family's excited, Jermaine is excited.

A two-hour event you have to see it to believe.

You know, a global audience is watching this.

Michael Jackson's star has been falling for some time,

but the anticipation ahead of this documentary is now immense.

When Living With Michael Jackson airs this evening,

these streets are going to be deserted.

Fans and critics alike are saying they're going to staying in

to watch the programme.

With his reputation in America very much at stake,

for Michael Jackson, it must be a nervous wait.

I went to Hayvenhurst, the Jacksons' home.

I sit down in the living room there

and, you know, Katherine comes down the stairs,

this winding staircase and she comes down.

You know, Jermaine is sitting on the couch next to me

and we're talking, and there's a big television there,

and we watched the Martin Bashir documentary,

and I'll never forget it.

Eight months ago, I put a proposal to Michael Jackson -

show me the real man, but show me everything.

My boyfriend called and said,

"Have you seen this special with Michael Jackson?"

I said, "No, my VCR recorded it."

Jimmy said, "Gavin's in it,"

and my heart just sank,

because that didn't sound like a good idea.

I'm staying in this little crappy hotel one night.

I think it was in the South somewhere.

And it's going to be on. "Should I watch it?

"No, Shmuley don't succumb to temptation, don't watch it,

"because you know to is going to upset you,"

but I watched it.

Did I believe that Martin Bashir was there to make Michael look good?

No, I did not.

- Come on, show me. - I'm going to show you.

This is Michael Jackson's favourite shop in Las Vegas,

with the luckiest manager in the world.

I bought that.

You bought that?

Michael's life was not ready to be opened to the public -

because he would wake up every day

at six in the afternoon, stay up the entire night,

you know - and he was blowing money

to compensate for feelings of maybe worthlessness.

This chess set. Isn't it beautiful, this set?

And that's what you saw on that stupid documentary.

He goes in and spends $6 million

on total garbage he probably never saw again.

- Oh, it's sold, look. - I bought this one, right? - Uh-huh.

- Is this yours? - Yeah, that's the sold sign, means it for me.

OK, How much is that one?

- Oh... - Did we ever get this one, these ones?

It's only 89,000.

Being able to have a front row seat with his family,

and seeing their reaction,

I'll never forget, where Michael tells Martin Bashir

that he's climbing a tree...

Let me hold the umbrella.

- Yeah. - You go and climb it, and when you've climbed it,

let's see how inspiring it is.

..and Joseph, of course,

like, "What is wrong with that boy?"

You know?

Jermaine was like, "This kid is crazy.

"He is out of his mind."

Having water ballon fights and climbing trees.

I think those two are my favourite.

Don't you prefer making love, or...

- Hmm? - ..going to a concert?

And he's saying he would rather climb a tree than have sex.

This grown man?! They were horrified.

Michael Jackson was, socially, not like you or like I.

Michael was in a different class of human.

I think that's why Martin Bashir didn't understand Michael.

I think that's why most journalists didn't understand Michael.

Like most Martin Bashir productions, 80% of it is really great.

Oh, you know how to do a moonwalk.

I learned it from you guys.

Playing with kids and comforting them, that's great.

Oh, don't stand up yet. Hold on.

And 20% of it...is like getting shot in the head,

especially the interview the Arvizo family.

THEY SING

And then I met 12-year old Gavin and his brother and sister.

And then there was a scene where we see this young boy, Gavin Arvizo,

who, supposedly, Michael helped cure his cancer.

It was like, "OK, they might make something of this."

There was one night where I asked him if I could stay in his bedroom

and he let me stay in the bedroom.

I was like, "Michael you can sleep on the bed."

Wow. I just remember looking at Joseph's face,

and Jermaine's face, Katherine -

they were stunned.

And then he finally said, "OK, if you love me,

"you'll sleep on the bed."

I was like, "Oh, man!"

and so I finally slept on the bed.

But it was fun, that night.

I slept on the floor.

It was like, "What the heck was that?"

and you see Gavin put his head on Michael's shoulder,

and there was this cloud that came over the living room.

Why can't you share your bed?

The most loving thing to do is to share your bed with someone.

- You know? - You really think that?

Yeah.

My mouth was agape.

Did you just say that it is OK for an adult to share a bed

with a child that is not their own?

It was, for me, as if he had fallen and crashed.

But haven't you got a spare room,

or a spare house here where he could've stayed?

Yeah, but - no... Yes, we have guest units, but whenever kids come here,

they always want to stay with me.

I thought, "Man he is really a glutton for punishment here,"

and the Jacksons knew it was a problem.

They knew, based on what they had already went through with Michael

with Jordan Chandler,

that somebody is going to say something about this.

This is going to be a media talking point.

The documentary was pretty shocking.

I was worried that Michael was using Gavin

to normalise his lifestyle,

sleeping with children he is not related to.

That's sort of the narcissist at work.

They always just want to stay.

They say, "Can I stay with you tonight?"

I go, "If it's OK with your parents, yes, you can."

But whatever he was trying to do with Martin Bashir had back-fired,

and it's Michael Jackson's brand that's at stake here.

That's big.

Pop star Michael Jackson drops one bombshell after another

about his bizarre behaviour.

Millions of people were watching

as Jackson revealed he allows young children to sleep his bed.

What kind of loony would, A, do it,

and, B, go on national TV and admit it?

Michael made tragic, horrific mistakes.

What are you doing alone with a kid in your bed,

even if it's not physical or sexual?

The next day, I decided I had to make a statement.

Those of us who were once in Michael's circle, or still are,

enough of the defence - we have to save this man from self-destructing.

We went into red alert, all hands of deck.

What can we do from a public relations standpoint

to help Michael?

Every time we trust the media to do something for us,

they turn around and they do us wrong.

They feel burned by the media?

They feel very burned by the media.

It caused a worldwide commotion.

27 million people watched that show.

Gavin Arvizo put his head to his left on Michael's right shoulder.

Michael told me that when the kid did that,

he was furious.

"He's putting his head on my shoulder?

"What is going on here? This is going to be terrible!"

Michael knew it right away.

Did Bashir tell him to do that?

Well, that's the word that I got.

Do I know that for a fact? No, I do not.

You had to know that Martin Bashir was going to be Martin Bashir,

and Martin Bashir bullshit was going to come out with it.

And anything that was reasonable and not provocative

was going to be left on the editing room floor.

Now Michael Jackson is fighting back,

releasing some of the interview with the British journalist.

As it turns out, Michael's personal videographer

was videotaping Martin Bashir.

And we started going to media outlets with that footage.

Here's some of what you didn't see.

Your relationship with your children is spectacular...

I love them.

..and, in fact, it almost makes me weep when I see you with them,

because your interaction with them is just so natural,

- so loving, so caring. - Thank you.

Well, that's not quite how it came out on television, is it?

It was quite a production.

You gotta give the devil his due.

Martin Bashir did an incredible job.

We are at DEFCON 12,000,

and we don't know what the possible kickback,

blowback from this event is going to be.

- Are we on camera? - Yeah. - Oh!

We don't know this family very well,

we don't know what their motivations are.

I thought, we want to keep them as far away from the tabloids

and people with cheques as possible.

What are some of the things that people say about Michael

that are true or aren't true?

Don't believe what they say.

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