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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:09,959 SARAH: Out of the blue, 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:11,959 this handsome, gorgeous man appeared. 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:13,799 INTERVIEWER: You're living the fairy tale. 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,799 TOMMY: To the happy couple. Cheers. 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,959 Well, you know our Tommy. Can't say no to a pretty face. 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,319 Unless they're trying to tie him down. 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,959 JANE: Get out of the strip club and call me back. 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,639 You can't just ignore me, Tommy! It's not funny. Argh! 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,639 SIMON: You said certain things happened 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,959 in your childhood that your parents didn't want to know about. 11 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,959 Do you feel that's what's happening here? 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,959 I have tried to kill myself in the past. 13 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,479 I just need to know you're not using me. 14 00:00:35,480 --> 00:00:36,639 I wouldn't do that. 15 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,999 Things seem to be going much better between the two of you. 16 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,959 I think he may be planning to propose when we're in France. 17 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,959 Mum said you're buying a place in the Cotswolds? 18 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,959 He's always had an excellent head for business. 19 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:47,959 Sorry, so the cottage is for your mother? 20 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,959 Loony Bin Jane. I'll just jump in the river, shall I? 21 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,959 That'll solve all your problems, won't it, Tommy? You're insane. 22 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,959 If we were married, you wouldn't treat me like this. 23 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,959 But you'd rather just keep stringing me along 24 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:57,959 as long as Tommy gets what he wants! 25 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,959 You are sick, do you know that? 26 00:00:59,960 --> 00:01:02,959 Shut up! Will you SHUT UP?! 27 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,959 There's something deeply wrong with you. 28 00:01:04,960 --> 00:01:06,319 'What is it you want the police to do?' 29 00:01:06,320 --> 00:01:08,479 I would like someone to stop us hurting each other. 30 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,959 If you don't have somebody here soon, somebody is. 31 00:01:10,960 --> 00:01:12,959 We're three days into a national manhunt 32 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:14,959 and still no closer to bringing her in. 33 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:16,959 SMART: 'If she's taking risks, maybe she intends 34 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:19,480 'to be dead before we can get to her.' 35 00:01:23,960 --> 00:01:26,640 BIRDSONG 36 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:36,319 They found the car. 37 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:38,959 Local bobby spotted the licence plate from the road. 38 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:39,959 Is she in it? 39 00:01:39,960 --> 00:01:40,959 We don't know yet. 40 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:42,959 Parked in a lay-by. No signs of movement. 41 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:45,959 He's asking if he should approach? 42 00:01:45,960 --> 00:01:47,960 Yeah. Tell him yes, but with caution. 43 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:59,800 Jane? 44 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:02,960 Jane Andrews? 45 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,960 MUFFLED: Are you OK? Can you open this door? 46 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,960 Jane? KNOCKING 47 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,160 STEADY BEEP 48 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,959 DOUGLAS CLEARS THROAT 49 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,479 I'm Detective Chief Inspector Keith Douglas, 50 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,959 attached to the Serious Crime Group. 51 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:46,479 The other officer is... 52 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:47,959 Detective Sergeant Kay Smart, 53 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,959 also attached to the Serious Crime Group. 54 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,959 We are in the interview room at Bloomsbury Police Station, 55 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,639 and I am interviewing... 56 00:02:55,640 --> 00:02:57,320 Please could you state your full name? 57 00:02:59,960 --> 00:03:01,960 Jane Dawn Elizabeth Andrews. 58 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,959 Whatever happened between them, it couldn't have been deliberate. 59 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,639 I mean, Janey can't have been in her right mind. 60 00:03:13,640 --> 00:03:14,959 MAN: Cut there. 61 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,959 Just one moment, Francesca. Was that not... 62 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,999 That was great. We just need to check your mic for sound. 63 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,479 Oh, OK. Yeah, we're all good. 64 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,959 So, if you can go back to before Tommy's death, 65 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,959 did you ever think he might be in danger? 66 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:27,960 SHE SIGHS 67 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:30,960 You have to remember... 68 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,639 ...she really did love him. 69 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:38,159 She was a woman scorned, and she took her revenge. 70 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,959 I think she was telling the truth. 71 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,960 She was prepared to say anything to save her skin. 72 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,639 You've told us that after Thomas Cressman's call 73 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,959 to the emergency services, the arguments continued, 74 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,960 and then you decided to leave the house. 75 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,959 You drove around for a while, 76 00:03:59,960 --> 00:04:03,959 and, following a phone conversation with Mr Cressman, 77 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,319 you decided to return. 78 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:06,959 Is that right? 79 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,320 Yes. 80 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,959 He said to come home, so I did. 81 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,999 And when you got back, there was another big row, 82 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,960 and you went up to bed. 83 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:18,960 Yes. 84 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,960 And I tried to go to sleep. 85 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,960 But he curled up next to me and said... 86 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,959 ..."Oh, come on. 87 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,960 "I want to have sex with you. You know you like it." 88 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,799 And then he... 89 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,160 sort of grabbed me... 90 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,960 ...and, well, I was, I was frightened, so I went down... 91 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,960 ...and I got the cricket bat. 92 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,960 Just to place next to the bed. 93 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,960 Protect myself. 94 00:04:59,960 --> 00:05:01,959 But then Tommy woke up, and he... 95 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,800 was going on about how horrible I was. 96 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,960 And he kneed me in the back. 97 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:10,960 And... 98 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,800 I should've just left. 99 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,959 But I went down. 100 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,480 And I saw... I saw the knife... 101 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,960 ...on the draining board. 102 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,959 I thought if he did anything, I-I'd just say... 103 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,159 "Look, I've got a knife. 104 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:32,960 "Don't touch me." 105 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,960 And then, eventually, I went to sleep. 106 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:41,960 And he just started hitting me. 107 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,959 So I picked up the bat, and I hit him, 108 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,479 and he was lashing out at me, and he was pulling my hair out. 109 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,799 So I grabbed the knife. 110 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,319 And he just came at me, and I... I didn't know what was happening. 111 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,959 I just remember him falling down, so I ran out of the room. 112 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,320 And then I panicked, so I got in my car, and I just... 113 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,960 ...I just drove and drove and drove. 114 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:07,960 SHE SNIFFLES 115 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,959 So, after leaving the house, 116 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,960 you made a number of calls and sent a number of text messages... 117 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,959 ...where you seemed unaware of what happened to Mr Cressman. 118 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,959 Were you trying to convince your friends 119 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,959 that his death was nothing to do with you? 120 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,960 No, I just... 121 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,960 I didn't know he was dead. 122 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,959 'Denying it, claiming it was an accident. 123 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,959 'Her story was all over the place from the start.' 124 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,959 Well, if in doubt, play the self-defence card. 125 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,959 But we had what we needed, so we charged her with murder. 126 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,960 The only surprise was that she got bail. 127 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:03,959 Janey? 128 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,959 Brought you a cup of tea, love. 129 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,800 Thanks, Mum. 130 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,960 You're settling in, then. That's good. 131 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:15,960 That, erm... 132 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,960 That lady solicitor called. 133 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,960 She wants you to ring her back about a meeting next week. 134 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,959 OK. 135 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,959 Does that mean you have to go back down to London? 136 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,959 I guess so. 137 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,800 They said they'd sort somewhere for me to stay. 138 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,959 Where did Dad put my sewing machine? 139 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,960 Ah, it's on the landing. 140 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:50,000 She sounded very on the ball, the solicitor. 141 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,959 I'm sure she'll be able to sort things out. 142 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,640 That's not really how it works, Mum. She can't just "sort it out". 143 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,959 But it wasn't your fault, was it? 144 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,959 I mean, it's like you say, it was an accident. 145 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,319 You didn't mean for it to happen. 146 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:11,960 No, of course not. 147 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,959 Do we still have that gingham cotton that I bought? 148 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,160 The pale blue one? 149 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,160 I don't know. It might be in the airing cupboard. 150 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:26,959 HE KNOCKS 151 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:27,959 All right, Jane, love? 152 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,960 This just came for you. 153 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,959 'I told her you'd be welcome to stay with us during the trial.' 154 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,960 Especially after reading such diabolical things in the papers. 155 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,959 I've been trying not to look. Of course. 156 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,479 I knew there had to be more to it. 157 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,959 All this talk of premeditated murder - 158 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,959 it simply didn't ring true. 159 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,320 It's not. 160 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:03,960 I loved Tommy. 161 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,960 I never meant to hurt him. 162 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:11,960 That's what I told the police. 163 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,319 I was just trying to get away from him. 164 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,960 I had no idea he was badly hurt. 165 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,959 I thought I'd just given him a scratch. 166 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,320 A scratch? 167 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,960 Oh, you poor thing. 168 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,999 And did the Duchess really contact you? 169 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,959 While you were on the run? 170 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,959 Yes. 171 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,639 Yes, she did. 172 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,639 Well, that's quite something. 173 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,959 Clearly, she still cares about you. 174 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:43,960 I know. 175 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,960 I'm making matching gingham dresses for Beatrice and Eugenie. 176 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,960 Are you? As a thank-you. 177 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,960 How sweet. 178 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,960 Coffee, darling? Please. 179 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,959 Thank you so much for this. 180 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,959 I really appreciate you both letting me stay. 181 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,960 Well, Roger and I are happy to help. 182 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,959 Pay no attention. 183 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,959 At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what rubbish they print. 184 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:48,999 No, you're right. 185 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,959 You just tell the truth, and it'll all come out in the wash. 186 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,960 I've always had the utmost faith in British justice. 187 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,959 REPORTERS CLAMOUR 188 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,960 Do you expect to get away with murder, do you, Jane? 189 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,959 'Everyone had made up their minds - the press, the public.' 190 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,480 They cast her as this "bunny boiler". 191 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:40,959 'There she was on every front page, just like when she was with Fergie.' 192 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,960 I'm sure she was lapping it up. 193 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,959 'Head to toe in black.' 194 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,959 Like she was some sort of grieving widow. 195 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,960 I mean, seriously? 196 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,960 Poor thing must've been terrified. 197 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,639 There is no doubt 198 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,999 as to the identity of Thomas Cressman's killer. 199 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,959 Jane Andrews wielded the bat 200 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,959 and held the knife. 201 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,959 The real question we must consider 202 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,959 is why she committed these violent acts. 203 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,959 And on this occasion, we need not look far for motive, 204 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,959 for, as you will see, hers was the classic one 205 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,479 of the jilted and betrayed lover. 206 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,959 Having learnt that Mr Cressman no longer intended to marry her, 207 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,960 she returned to that house with one thought in mind. 208 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,959 Namely... 209 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,960 to take her revenge by ending his life. 210 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,959 Now, the defence will try and persuade you 211 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,959 that Miss Andrews was acting in self-defence, 212 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,959 that she was afraid for her own safety. 213 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,959 And in order to support this, 214 00:12:59,960 --> 00:13:02,959 they will paint a picture of the deceased 215 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,960 that bears no relation to the truth. 216 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:12,959 Indeed, the evidence will show you that it was, in fact, Jane herself 217 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,959 who was the controlling and, ultimately, violent partner 218 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:16,959 in this relationship, 219 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,959 a relationship that was brutally ended 220 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:25,959 by a cold-blooded, premeditated murder. 221 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,320 MURMURS FROM GALLERY 222 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:45,959 The, erm, body of the deceased was in a very awkward position, 223 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,959 wedged between the bed and the wall. 224 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,000 We could see that he'd been stabbed in the chest, and his hands were... 225 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:54,959 ...like this. 226 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:56,959 Er, almost as if he was trying to... 227 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,959 cover the wound, or extract the knife from his body. 228 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,959 And can you describe the knife that you found at the scene? 229 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,959 It was a kitchen knife with an eight-inch blade, 230 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,639 and it had been taken from the block in the kitchen. 231 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,959 Well, it appeared that Mr Cressman had also been hit over the head 232 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,959 with a cricket bat and stunned, prior to being stabbed. 233 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,319 Was there any sign that Mr Cressman 234 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,959 had attempted to defend himself against the attack? 235 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:23,959 No, there was not. 236 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,639 No defensive wounds were found on his body. 237 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:28,959 No defensive wounds, 238 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,960 suggesting that Tommy was defenceless when the attack came. 239 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,319 Well... 240 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,960 I'm sure things will go better this afternoon. 241 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:46,960 I'm sure they will. 242 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,960 'Seeing her in court was pretty unpleasant, as you can imagine.' 243 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:02,959 But someone needed to speak for Tommy. 244 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:08,960 What did you make of Jane Andrews when she and Tom first began dating? 245 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,319 I was aware of who she was and where she'd worked, 246 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,479 and I think that had maybe impressed Tom a bit. 247 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,959 And I'm sure she was attracted to him. 248 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,479 But I think, ultimately, she was very attracted to his lifestyle. 249 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,960 Did you have any misgivings about the relationship? 250 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,479 It was kind of full-on from the start. 251 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,959 Jane became increasingly possessive. 252 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,959 She basically gave him no space. 253 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,959 And how did Tommy respond when faced with this kind of behaviour? 254 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,960 Erm, Tommy was an incredibly gentle kind of guy. 255 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,959 Plus, he was worried about what she would do. 256 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,960 MURMURS FROM GALLERY 257 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,960 I could've done that for you. It's fine, Mum. It's done now. 258 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,960 This house is something else. 259 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,959 You'll have to buy Aleksandra a present to say thank you 260 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,160 when all this is... 261 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,960 ...you know. I shall when I get a chance. 262 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,960 Everything's gonna be all right, you'll see. 263 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,960 And tomorrow, you'll tell your side of the story. 264 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:32,960 Put things straight. 265 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:42,960 Mum, tomorrow, there's going to be things... you won't want to hear. 266 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:45,960 Right. 267 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,959 Things that happened to me when I was young. 268 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:51,959 Oh, Jane, I... 269 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,160 So if you'd rather not be there, you and Dad... 270 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,480 No. 271 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,960 No, we'll be there. 272 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:07,960 You just... 273 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,960 You say what you have to. 274 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:45,960 Miss Andrews. 275 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,639 Before dealing with the events of that night, 276 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,960 I want to deal briefly with your medical history. 277 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,959 In the spring of 1999, 278 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:01,639 did you undergo a few sessions with a private psychotherapist? 279 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,799 Yes, I did. 280 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:04,959 Tom arranged them for me. 281 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:09,960 And what was the particular focus of the psychotherapy? 282 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,320 To deal with my abuse as a child. 283 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,959 And the abuse to which you refer, 284 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,959 was it sexual abuse? 285 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,959 Yes. MURMURS FROM GALLERY 286 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,960 At about what age, so far as you were concerned? 287 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,959 About eight years old. 288 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,959 Am I right in saying you do not wish to say who was involved in that? 289 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:41,959 That is correct. 290 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,959 But am I right that we are not talking about parental abuse? 291 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,959 That's right, yes. 292 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,959 So, during your relationship with Thomas Cressman, 293 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,959 you were still dealing with the effects of that abuse. 294 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,959 This left you with a heightened perception of threat. 295 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:57,959 Is that right? 296 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:58,999 Yes. 297 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,959 And in a high-stress situation, 298 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,959 you would find yourself less able to make rational judgements, 299 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,959 instead, finding yourself in a... 300 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,959 a sort of "grey mist" of helplessness. 301 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:11,960 Is that right? 302 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:13,960 Yes, that's true. 303 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:19,959 Can you now tell me about your relationship with Mr Cressman? 304 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,959 Tommy and I were together for nearly two years. 305 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,960 I was devoted to him. 306 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,959 But, in terms of your sex life, 307 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,959 would it be correct to say that you were... 308 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,959 relatively innocent and straight-laced, sexually, 309 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,959 whereas Thomas was relatively adventurous? 310 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,959 Yes, that's true. 311 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,959 In what ways, Miss Andrews, 312 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,960 was Thomas "relatively adventurous", so far as you were concerned? 313 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,319 He would want to have anal sex with me. 314 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,959 MURMURS FROM GALLERY 315 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:00,319 And he wanted me to dress up in kinky clothing. 316 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,479 You also discovered sexually explicit emails 317 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,960 on Mr Cressman's computer, did you not? 318 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,319 Did you take these to imply 319 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,959 that Mr Cressman was no longer committed to your relationship? 320 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,959 What was his attitude to your future together? 321 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,960 He was committed. 322 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,960 But he had periods of... 323 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,480 ...confusing moments on his part... 324 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,159 ...where he would say that he needed space. 325 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,479 And this caused rows between you? 326 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:38,640 Yes. 327 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,000 Because I would... push him to find out... 328 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,959 ...where our future was going. 329 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,959 And are we talking merely about rows where people shout at each other, 330 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,959 or was there, on occasion, more than that? 331 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,959 Yes. 332 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,960 In the sense that...? 333 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,799 That he hit me. 334 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,959 And, on another occasion when we were arguing, 335 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:04,959 he pushed me down the stairs. 336 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,960 GASPS, MURMURS 337 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,959 Well, we'd been warned 338 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,959 that things were probably gonna get pretty nasty. 339 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,960 And, er, so it began. 340 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,319 Well, now we come to the rows between yourself and Tom 341 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,960 on Saturday the 16th of September, last year. 342 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:25,959 Yes. 343 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,959 The Saturday morning, 344 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:33,959 he calls and tells me things with Jane were just awful. 345 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,959 He sounded stressed and hassled. 346 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,160 I told him if they got married, this is how it would be. 347 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,959 She was just too hysterical. 348 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,959 I asked him what had started the argument, 349 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,959 and he said that she wanted to know if they were getting married, 350 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,959 and he told her that she wasn't... 351 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,479 stable enough to be the mother of his children. 352 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,959 Was there one aspect of those rows 353 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,960 which you did not tell the police about? 354 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,000 On Saturday morning... 355 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,960 ...he put a pillow over my head... 356 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,960 ...and tied me to the bed. 357 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,160 His full weight was on top of me. 358 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,479 And he anally raped me. 359 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,160 SHOCKED CHATTER FROM GALLERY 360 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,959 DOUGLAS: 'I mean, they basically threw everything at it.' 361 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,319 But to say... 362 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,959 she was raped, you know, and-and like that, I mean... 363 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,319 To be honest, it was just disgusting. 364 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,960 Vile... 365 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,960 ...despicable lies. 366 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,479 I don't know. 367 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:08,959 Miss Andrews, when you placed a knife by your bed, 368 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,959 what exactly did you fear might happen? 369 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,959 I was afraid that he was going to rape me again, 370 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,959 like he had that morning. 371 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,959 And when he began to attack you, you tried to ward him off. 372 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,959 First with a blow from the cricket bat, 373 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,960 and when that failed, you took up the knife. 374 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,959 Yes. Did you, however, 375 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,960 intend that Thomas Cressman be stabbed with it? 376 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,320 No, not at all. 377 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:38,960 We just... 378 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,959 ...came together, and the next thing I knew, he was on top of me. 379 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,960 And that's the point the knife went in? 380 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,960 And at that stage, did you know how badly injured he was? 381 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:58,960 No. 382 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,000 I just panicked. 383 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,960 I crawled out from underneath him and ran out of the room. 384 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,960 I was terrified that he was going to come after me. 385 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,960 So I took my dressing gown cord and tied the door. 386 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:22,959 I couldn't think. 387 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,320 So, one might say you were in a "grey mist"? 388 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:27,959 Yes. 389 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:33,160 And as you left the house, was there any sight or sound from Tom? 390 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:35,960 No. 391 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,480 No, there was nothing. 392 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,960 That's when I realised he must be dead. 393 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:49,959 ALEKSANDRA: 'Well, you see, 394 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,959 'that's when her story really began to change. 395 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,959 'This was quite different to the tale I'd been told.' 396 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,960 And I realised that I had made a dreadful mistake. 397 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,000 There are one or two things that are a bit... confusing. 398 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:07,960 What do you mean? 399 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,959 Well, you said yourself 400 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,640 you'd told differing versions to different people. 401 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,960 Yes, because I was confused. 402 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,959 And scared. 403 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:22,960 Right. 404 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,160 It's just, you told me that you thought you'd given him a scratch. 405 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:32,959 But then, today, 406 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,640 you said you knew he was dead before you left the house. 407 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,960 I know. I just... 408 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,960 ...couldn't even admit it to myself. 409 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,959 You know, Roger and I have been talking, 410 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,960 and he feels, we both feel... 411 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,959 ...that, actually, it might be more appropriate 412 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,319 for you to move into a hotel for the remainder of the trial. 413 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:11,960 Maybe tomorrow? 414 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:14,959 I see. 415 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,959 It's just simpler all round. 416 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:18,960 Don't you think? 417 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,959 Oh, hello. SHE GIGGLES 418 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,960 You're doing a very good job. 419 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,960 SHE SNIFFLES 420 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,800 So, Miss Andrews. 421 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,959 You left the house in the early hours of Sunday morning 422 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,999 and spent the next two and a half days 423 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,959 driving round the country. 424 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,960 During which time, as far, as far as you knew... 425 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,959 ...nobody had found Tom's body. 426 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,959 Why not tell someone? 427 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,479 Even as you were keying in messages 428 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,959 and speaking to people on your phone, 429 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:42,960 why did you not say this man was lying there, dying? 430 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,960 I didn't want anybody to think I'd fled the scene. 431 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,959 Left Tom to die in that room. 432 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,959 Oh, so the messages were calculated to mislead? 433 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,960 No. 434 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,959 I know it's absurd. It doesn't make any sense. 435 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,959 No, no, it-it makes perfect sense. 436 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,959 This was no "grey mist", er, whatever that may be. 437 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,319 Rather, you were deliberately attempting 438 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,959 to mislead your friends and former husband. 439 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,959 And now you've told this court that you'd been admitted 440 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,959 to Charing Cross Hospital after falling down some stairs. 441 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,959 Tommy pushed me down the stairs. I was very upset. 442 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,959 But you never told that to any doctor, 443 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,959 to any police officer, did you? 444 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,959 Just as you never told anyone about the occasion 445 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:31,959 you say you got a bruise on your head because he hit you. 446 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,959 No. Because I was too ashamed. 447 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,319 But when you're talking to the police, 448 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,959 this is not a time for shame. 449 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:37,959 Is it? 450 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,959 I just wanted to get the interview over and done with. 451 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,959 But what was the reason that you failed to mention something 452 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,959 that you now rely on in this court? 453 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,959 Namely, that earlier that day, 454 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,960 he had had sexual intercourse with you by force? 455 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,959 Because I was totally ashamed and embarrassed. 456 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,999 You were seen three times by a woman doctor at the police station. 457 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,959 It was a private examination. 458 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,959 You could've drawn attention, if you wished, 459 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,959 to anything that had happened to you that you felt 460 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,959 might be relevant to the trouble that you were facing. 461 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,639 But you did not draw anyone's attention to it, did you? 462 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,959 I was too traumatised by the whole thing. 463 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,639 Ah, well, you were in a fit state to be interviewed 464 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,959 and to explain all you did to the police. 465 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,479 Why not explain to the doctor, 466 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,959 "I've been raped, 467 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,959 "and there will be physical signs of that, if you have a look."? 468 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,159 I physically could not. 469 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,959 You didn't tell anyone about it 470 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,959 because it's completely invented, that story. 471 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:31,999 In fact, both stories about anal rape, 472 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,959 in the morning and the alleged second attempt that evening, 473 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,319 completely invented, are they not? 474 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:37,959 No, not at all. 475 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,159 Ever since your arrest, 476 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,959 you have fabricated a succession of contradictory stories 477 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,799 in a blatant attempt to escape blame 478 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,959 for Thomas Cressman's death, have you not? 479 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:47,959 No, that's not true. 480 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,959 Even now, the evidence you've presented here in court 481 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,639 is riddled with inconsistencies. 482 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,959 You claim that Mr Cressman attacked you that morning, 483 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,639 and, as a result, you left the house for several hours. 484 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:58,959 But then you chose to return. 485 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,959 You claim that you feared further sexual assault, 486 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,959 yet in the next breath, you say you happily took off your clothes 487 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:04,959 and got into bed beside him. 488 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:05,960 Why would you do that? 489 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,960 Tom wanted me to sleep in his bed. 490 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:13,959 I couldn't say no. 491 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,959 So, you are afraid for your safety, 492 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,959 yet you left the bedroom multiple times, 493 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,959 went up and down the stairs, 494 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,959 first to fetch a bat, later to arm yourself with a knife, 495 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,959 which means that at any point, you could've left that house again, 496 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:27,959 but you chose not to. 497 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,959 Now, that makes no sense, does it? 498 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,959 I was afraid of what Tommy might do. 499 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,999 Meanwhile, y-your description of the attack has changed. 500 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,799 When talking to the police, 501 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,959 you said that Mr Cressman said he was going to hurt you. 502 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,959 However, as soon as you reach court, you're claiming 503 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,959 he shouted that he was going to "fucking kill you". 504 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,959 You claimed initially you thought you'd just given him "a scratch", 505 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,479 but now you say you were so covered in blood 506 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,479 that you assumed he must be dead. 507 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,960 Not one word of it rings true. 508 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,960 It's... hard to remember. 509 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,959 Everything just happened so fast. 510 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,959 Right. 511 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,799 We earlier heard that 512 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,959 Tom had arranged for you to see a psychiatrist 513 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,959 to help with your, er, problems. 514 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,960 What problems were they, again? 515 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,479 Er, my child abuse. 516 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,959 Oh, yeah. The child abuse you've now chosen to reveal in court. 517 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,959 No, that's... And about which you refuse to disclose any details. 518 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,159 I don't want to. Which is entirely your right. 519 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,959 But it seems convenient, does it not, 520 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,959 to present us with an allegation 521 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,480 which has never been officially made, nor legally proven? 522 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,960 Do you want a break? 523 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,960 Ten minutes, members of the jury. 524 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,960 GRAHAM-LLOYD: Jane, are you all right? 525 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:34,960 Antibiotics. 526 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,960 Doctor says it's just a low-grade infection. 527 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,320 You must've been feeling poorly for days. 528 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,000 A bit. 529 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:49,959 Bless you. 530 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,959 Us women just soldier on, don't we? 531 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:53,960 We have to. 532 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,960 DOOR OPENS 533 00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:01,960 Would the foreman of the jury please stand? 534 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,959 Have you reached a verdict? Yes. 535 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,999 On the count of murder, 536 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,960 do you find the defendant, Jane Andrews, guilty or not guilty? 537 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,999 Guilty. 538 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,960 VOICES FADE 539 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,959 I think she honestly thought she'd get away with it. 540 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,959 CHATTER 541 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,960 SOBBING: Oh, God. Oh, Tommy. 542 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,800 Jane Andrews. 543 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,959 In killing the man you loved, 544 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,960 you ended his life and ruined your own. 545 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,959 'It is evident that you made your attack on him 546 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,639 'when you were consumed with anger and bitterness. 547 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,959 'But nothing could justify what you did.' 548 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,639 DOOR SLAMS 549 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,959 'Even if you were feeling wronged and were emotionally vulnerable, 550 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,959 'you were attacking an unarmed man 551 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,799 'who had possibly been asleep only a few minutes 552 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,959 'before you attacked him. 553 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,959 'You then left him to die without remorse.' 554 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,959 REPORTERS CLAMOUR 555 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,959 'Therefore, as your counsel recognises, 556 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,960 'there is only one sentence I can place upon you... 557 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,960 '..and that is life imprisonment.' 558 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,959 People don't believe her. But... 559 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,960 that doesn't mean Jane isn't telling the truth. 560 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,959 It just means people don't WANT to believe her. 561 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,959 There's no excuse for what she did, 562 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,159 and I know no-one wants to speak ill of the dead, 563 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,959 but Tom wasn't an angel. 564 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,160 And Janey wasn't a monster, either. 565 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:17,159 The whole thing is just terribly, terribly sad. 566 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,959 The fact is, she's a murderer. However you wanna look at it. 567 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:21,959 She was a woman scorned, 568 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,959 and she took Thomas Cressman's life in anger. 569 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,799 And even that wasn't enough for her. 570 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,960 She had to try and destroy his good name. 571 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,159 But, you know, at the end of the day, 572 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,960 we didn't let her get away with it. 573 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,320 Any other personal items? 574 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,960 Oh, no, you can keep that. Well, unless it's valuable. 575 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,319 Er, no. 576 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,959 It's just... 577 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,959 it was a present from The Duchess of York, actually. 578 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,960 No-one asked for your life story, love. 579 00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,960 GUARD: Follow me. 580 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,480 LAUGHTER, CHATTER 581 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,959 INMATE 1: Ey up, it's Fergie's bird! 582 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,319 INMATE 2: Welcome home, Your Majesty. 583 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,639 LAUGHTER, JEERS 584 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,960 BANGING 585 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,959 INMATE 3: All right, Your Ladyship? 586 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,480 PRISONERS JEERING 587 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,960 JEERS FADE 588 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,960 MUFFLED BANGING 589 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,960 So, how have you been this week? 590 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,319 Pretty much the same. 591 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,959 Jane, as we discussed last time, 592 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,960 I think your earlier diagnosis of depression was correct. 593 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,959 Right. 594 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,959 But now that I'm getting to know you better, 595 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,960 I think it possibly doesn't explain everything you're dealing with. 596 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,960 Have you ever heard of borderline personality disorder? 597 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,960 No, I don't think so. 598 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,999 Well, a person with BPD 599 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,959 often has a longstanding pattern of thoughts and feelings 600 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,959 that probably began when they were very young. 601 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,159 They experience certain recurrent impulses 602 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,959 and ways of being in relationships 603 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,799 which often cause them a lot of distress, 604 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,959 and which often involve self-damaging behaviours. 605 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:47,960 So, things like recurrent suicidal threats. 606 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,960 Does any of that feel familiar to you? 607 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,960 I don't know. 608 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:58,960 Maybe. 609 00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:01,480 OK. 610 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,799 Well, we often find that there are other common behaviours too. 611 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:11,999 People with BPD feel deeply entrenched shame. 612 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,999 So whenever they make mistakes or have weaknesses, 613 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,959 they try very hard to avoid admitting it. 614 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,960 And sometimes, that means they lie so they don't have to face it. 615 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:26,960 Right. 616 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,959 But that doesn't mean they're trying to deceive. 617 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,959 But they're a way of coping when you're feeling a lot of pain. 618 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,999 It's a bit like going out in the sun when you're already sunburnt. 619 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,959 If you're already feeling emotionally raw, 620 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,960 you can't begin to make healthy emotional connections. 621 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,999 So I need to stay out of the sun? 622 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,959 For now. 623 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,480 Well, that shouldn't be a problem. 624 00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:01,959 Jane, with the right support, 625 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,960 you can begin to learn to control your behavioural triggers. 626 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,959 It'll take work, 627 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:12,000 but I really think this could be a whole fresh start for you. 628 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,959 JUNE: 'How are your sessions going with Dr Chaudhry?' 629 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,319 Yeah, good. 630 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,959 We're doing a lot of work on my triggers, 631 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,000 identifying behavioural patterns, you know? 632 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,959 Working through why I do the things that I do. 633 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,959 I think it's really helping. 634 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:34,960 And... 635 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,959 ...has there been any more news about the appeal? 636 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,960 Mum, I told you. They said it'd be ages before we hear. 637 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,959 But it should make a difference, shouldn't it, this diagnosis? 638 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:48,960 It changes everything, really. 639 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,320 And the new solicitor thinks there are new avenues that we can explore. 640 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,960 That's really good, Jane. Mm. 641 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,160 'Can't believe it's Christmas already.' 642 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,960 We had a card. 'Sorry?' 643 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,640 We had a Christmas card from Mr and Mrs Cressman. 644 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,959 'They said they knew it would be a difficult Christmas 645 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,960 'and they sent their best wishes, and... 646 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:21,960 'That was...' 647 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,960 That... That was kind of them, wasn't it? 648 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:28,959 I wondered if we... 649 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,959 Listen, Mum, I've got to go soon. 650 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,319 No, no, of course. Er, J... Er, Jane? 651 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,959 'Jane, will we, erm, will we speak to you on Christmas Day?' 652 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,640 'I hate to think of you all alone in that place.' 653 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,159 Actually, I've made a new friend. 654 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,960 'Oh.' 655 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,960 Well, more of a pen pal. 656 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,959 'The way she's been portrayed, as completely hard and unfeeling - 657 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,799 'that's not Janey.' 658 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,960 If anything, she feels things much too deeply. 659 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,959 She had all these... 660 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,959 lovely dreams of a great fairy tale romance, 661 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,160 and when that fell apart, so did she. 662 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,960 The fact is that woman... 663 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,960 ...never showed any remorse. 664 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:32,960 Not to me... 665 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:36,960 ...or to my family. 666 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,959 'So, if you ask me, they should never let her out. 667 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:47,960 'And any man who gets involved with her... 668 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,960 '..should be very, very careful.' 669 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,960 I miss Tommy every single day. 670 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,960 The sound of his voice. 671 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:09,960 The way he laughed. 672 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,960 SHE LAUGHS Silly jokes. 673 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,960 He had this incredible gift for living. 674 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,960 He was my... my beautiful boy. 675 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,959 And now he's gone. 676 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,960 SHE WHIMPERS, TAKES DEEP BREATH 677 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,960 I just want to keep my brother's memory alive. 678 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,960 Can we stop there? 679 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,960 INTERVIEWER: Of course. 680 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,960 Subtitles by accessibility@itv.com 681 00:45:40,010 --> 00:45:44,560 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 51928

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