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When I found out
that it wasn't just me
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and that he got away
with this, your blood boils.
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Jeffrey Epstein
is gonna get away
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with molesting me
and all my friends,
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and the government's
cosigning it.
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It's scary.
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When you look
at the evidence,
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it's utterly damning.
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And then, in 2006,
the federal authorities
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in Florida
begin an investigation
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into Jeffrey Epstein.
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They were expanding it
beyond Florida.
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They were looking
at his properties
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in New York and elsewhere.
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They were starting to really
get into who this guy was,
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where his investments were,
what he was doing.
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Who really was
Jeffrey Epstein?
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Truth is stranger
than fiction in this case.
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I mean, we're talking
about hundreds of girls
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being victimized,
which was really
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just astonishing to me...
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that this had gone on
for so long
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and that there had been
so many people involved.
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As attorneys who represent
the victims,
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we were really trying
to expose the scheme,
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and we were using Virginia's
voice to be able to do that.
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The recruitment process
was never-ending,
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so it wasn't like
he was finally set up.
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He's got his five girls here,
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there, there,
and there and there.
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And so you were forced to try
to bring other girls in.
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I call it a pyramid scheme.
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"A" would talk to B,
B would talk to C
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so on and so forth.
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And these girls, that's how
it worked down the line.
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Jeffrey had a particularly
elaborate seduction system.
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He had women around him
that he trained
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to understand
what he was looking for.
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They would find
young potential victims
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who were malleable,
who had some level of need
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or some level
of naiveté about them.
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I grew up in Dayton, Ohio,
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surrounded by cornfields
and woods
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that I often played in.
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Growing up,
I always was into healing,
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and my dad was a dentist.
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My mom was a teacher,
and I've always had
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a mission to help others,
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and since I was a kid,
I've also had this dream
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about going to California.
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So when I was 22 years old,
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I chose
a massage therapy school
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in California and went.
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I was very excited
and just ready
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to take on the world.
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One day, I was approached
by a student
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further along in the program,
and she asked me
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if I would be interested
in learning about
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a once-in-a-lifetime
opportunity
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to be a traveling
massage therapist.
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I was excited,
and I told her yes.
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The next person
that I was in contact with
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was Sarah Kellen.
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Sarah Kellen was one
of the main recruiters
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for Epstein.
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Someone who approached girls,
rounded up girls,
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and also did logistics.
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The pyramid scheme started
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with Ghislaine Maxwell
and Sarah Kellen.
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Sarah was so successful
in bringing girls in.
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She's telling you,
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"You're gonna get
a really amazing job.
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"This is gonna be
life-changing for you.
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This is gonna be amazing."
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Sarah and I met
at the Santa Monica Beach.
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I felt comfortable
with her instantly.
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We resembled one another
as far as age and hair color
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and even just body type.
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I kind of felt like, wow,
she's kind of just like me.
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Sarah's telling me
about the position.
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She had been this
personal massage therapist
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traveling the world
for the last several years.
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She said,
"You'll be filling my place."
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She said,
"Imagine the most grand,
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most amazing, incredible life
you could want,"
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and she stopped speaking,
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and I took a couple moments
thinking about that
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and creating that image
in my mind.
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She's like, "Teresa,
it is so much more
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than you could ever,
ever imagine."
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Sarah referred to Ms. Maxwell
who would be hiring me
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for the position,
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and the next steps
are for me to fly
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to New York City
to meet Ms. Maxwell.
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I thought that this was
the opportunity of a lifetime.
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This was going to allow me
to see my dreams.
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I arrive in New York City,
and I go meet with Ms. Maxwell
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to give a massage.
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I felt quite comfortable
with her.
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There was a point
where she fell asleep
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during the massage,
so I felt, like, wow,
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this is really going well.
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After the massage, she told me
that I was going to go
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meet her partner, Jeffrey,
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to continue
with the interview,
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and that was
the very first time
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I had heard his name.
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She said to me,
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"Make sure you give Jeffrey
what he wants.
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Jeffrey always gets
what he wants."
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The entire operation,
from start to finish,
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was very calculated.
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Before any individual
ever even met Jeffrey Epstein,
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she had already met three
or four other people
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who she felt like she trusted.
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They were totally
out of their element.
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They didn't know what
the rules were for this world,
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so to have someone saying,
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"These are the rules,"
effectively,
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"This is normal.
This is how things are."
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That's incredible powerful
as a tool of manipulation,
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and I think Ghislaine
was essential
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in fulfilling that role.
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I went to Jeffrey's
townhouse that night
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and met Jeffrey.
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You walk in,
and it's pretty breathtaking.
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One of the first things
I noticed when I walked in...
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there was
a butler standing there.
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The coat, the tux,
a silver tray in his hand.
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You don't see that anywhere.
You see that in a movie.
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He said, "Follow me this way,"
and then I met Jeffrey.
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He led me over to a couch,
and he sat next to me.
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He was asking me questions
about myself and my family.
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Just in the middle
of conversation,
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he put his foot on my lap
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and asked me
for a foot massage.
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And as I'm doing so,
he's pushing his foot
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closer to my body.
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He starts pushing
his heel between my legs.
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Then he's pressing
the top of his foot...
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like, literally his toes...
like, into my breast.
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I was so confused.
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Like, what
is going on right now?
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None of it made sense
from the massage school
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to meeting Sarah
to meeting Ghislaine
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to now I'm here.
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None of it added up.
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I stood up to leave the room...
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And he's following behind me,
and he grabbed me
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from behind,
and I just completely froze.
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He was just behind me,
and he assaulted me
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there in that hallway.
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I don't know how long
I was even standing there.
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I ran straight
to the front door,
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and he's following
right behind me,
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and as I leave,
he patted me on my butt,
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and he says to me,
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"Don't do anything
I wouldn't do."
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I felt very, you know,
afraid of him.
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I felt an overwhelm
of shame and confusion.
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For some reason, I felt
like I should have known,
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like, it was
too good to be true.
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I felt so fooled.
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That individual
who has been groomed
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feels that they had agency
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and therefore
had some responsibility.
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They do not understand that
by the time of the big reveal,
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which is the sexual assault,
they were tricked.
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I was targeted
by the student
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at the massage school.
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She spotted me
knowing what they wanted.
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I was a human baton
passed along
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from one person to the next,
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and it began with her
at the school that day.
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They knew exactly
how to pull you in
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to trust them.
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It's a game.
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It's a sick and twisted game
to them,
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and they felt like they were
the kings and queens
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of their sick domain.
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The recruiting focus
was constant.
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Any of the individuals
that you talk to
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who were subjected
to Ghislaine and Jeffrey
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will tell you that every day
they were asking
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these young girls
to bring in other girls.
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Ghislaine
was the master at that.
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Jeffrey liked diversity.
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He didn't want the same person
over and over again,
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and when you do the math,
and he's requiring
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a different person
three times a day,
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those numbers add up.
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He literally
ate, slept, thought...
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that was all he did was abuse.
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It was a revolving door
of girls coming through.
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- I first met Jeffrey
- January of 2000.
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I was working as a model.
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All my friends
were models and actresses.
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I loved the lifestyle.
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Going out,
art gallery openings,
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charity events.
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Ghislaine I saw
a lot at events.
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We all kind of knew
that she had
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a very special relationship
with Jeffrey,
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and I was so fascinated
with his whole world
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that he lived in.
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He was mysterious,
he was wealthy,
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and he knew
all the right people.
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When I would be there,
he would always be talking
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to the richest man
in the world.
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He would tell me, like,
little secrets about people.
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He always knew the secrets.
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That was really important
to him.
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Jeffrey Epstein became
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a spectacularly rich
financial advisor.
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He said at the time
that he only wanted clients
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who had assets worth
a billion dollars or more.
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Through a mutual acquaintance,
Epstein meets
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a genuine billionaire
and arguably
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the most important man
in his life.
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At some point in time
you met and managed the money
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for a fella named
Leslie Wexner, correct?
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Again, I would like
to answer all questions...
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Les Wexner was the owner
of the Limited Brand,
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which is Victoria's Secret,
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and a very,
very wealthy individual.
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By 1991, Epstein
had not only become
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Wexner's financial advisor.
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He was his only client.
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What was even more bizarre
was that Wexner
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signed over power of attorney
to Epstein.
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This was essentially
allowing Epstein
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to do absolutely anything
in relation
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to his financial affairs.
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And if you're thinking
this is a weird arrangement,
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that's because
it's a very weird arrangement.
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Les Wexner
had bought and renovated
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a house on East 71st Street,
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and then the next thing
we knew about this house
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was that Jeffrey Epstein
had moved in,
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and the story going around
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was that he had
just given it to Jeffrey.
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What is it
about the relationship
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between Les Wexner
and Jeffrey Epstein
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that would inspire him to make
such an extraordinary gift?
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The way Les Wexner
looked at Epstein was
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with, like, puppy dog eyes.
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It was... I think
if Epstein could love,
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the only person he loved
was himself and Les Wexner.
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This relationship
is so important
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because it allows Epstein to
create a fortune for himself
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and it also allows him
a kind of entry
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into the world of modeling.
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Les Wexner
and Victoria's Secret
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is a huge
modeling connection...
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something that I'm sure
Jeffrey Epstein identified
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from the very beginning.
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One model knows
a whole bunch of models.
258
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One person gave him access
to hundreds of people.
259
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He had you
introduce friends
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and the friends
introduce more friends.
261
00:16:03,571 --> 00:16:07,792
Jeffrey would pay you if you
introduced him to people.
262
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He would say
it was transactional.
263
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That was his thing.
264
00:16:12,406 --> 00:16:15,235
He really liked me,
but I wasn't his type.
265
00:16:15,322 --> 00:16:19,500
What he liked me for
was to meet more women.
266
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He was very specific...
267
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young, pretty, tall,
thin blondes.
268
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He liked blondes.
269
00:16:29,771 --> 00:16:33,035
I was a model
in New York City,
270
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and it was a job
that I didn't think
271
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I could ever have,
and it was a job that I wanted.
272
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And it's everything you think
New York and fashion is.
273
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It was very exciting.
274
00:16:48,616 --> 00:16:51,010
I lived in a model's
apartment in Midtown.
275
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I think it was on 42nd street.
276
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And it was a huge apartment.
277
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Any given time,
there could be three girls
278
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or there could be 20 girls.
279
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We were all
about the same age,
280
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and we were in the city
by ourselves, you know,
281
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some of us for the first time.
282
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The modeling industry
was a clear, easy target
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for Jeffrey Epstein.
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You had young, ambitious,
beautiful women
285
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coming to New York
from all over the world,
286
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dying to make it.
287
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They want to be
the next big model
288
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more than anything
they've ever wanted,
289
00:17:29,048 --> 00:17:30,745
and Jeffrey Epstein
290
00:17:30,832 --> 00:17:32,355
promised to make
their dreams come true.
291
00:17:34,488 --> 00:17:35,837
Jeffrey was very powerful.
292
00:17:37,665 --> 00:17:39,188
As a model,
I was doing really well,
293
00:17:39,275 --> 00:17:41,277
but I wanted
to be a Ford model,
294
00:17:41,364 --> 00:17:43,323
so I had told Jeffrey,
and he said,
295
00:17:43,410 --> 00:17:45,412
"Oh, I know the owner,"
and he called up,
296
00:17:45,499 --> 00:17:48,502
and, like, within a few days,
I went and met with them,
297
00:17:48,589 --> 00:17:50,895
and they said,
"Oh, we love Jeffrey,"
298
00:17:50,982 --> 00:17:54,595
of course,
and they signed me right up.
299
00:17:54,682 --> 00:17:58,164
He would manipulate you
in any way that he could
300
00:17:58,251 --> 00:18:00,905
for whatever you wanted
to get more women.
301
00:18:00,992 --> 00:18:03,386
I'll make this happen for you
if you do what I want.
302
00:18:05,519 --> 00:18:06,911
He used people
for what they were good at,
303
00:18:06,998 --> 00:18:08,739
and that's it.
304
00:18:08,826 --> 00:18:10,393
I'm sure he had the same kind
of relationship with men.
305
00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,440
He took whatever somebody
had to offer
306
00:18:13,527 --> 00:18:15,442
whether it was money,
whether it was an idea,
307
00:18:15,529 --> 00:18:17,270
whether it was an opportunity.
308
00:18:17,357 --> 00:18:20,316
Whatever that person
had to offer,
309
00:18:20,403 --> 00:18:21,883
Jeffrey Epstein took it.
310
00:18:24,407 --> 00:18:27,628
Jean-Luc Brunel
is a French model scout.
311
00:18:27,715 --> 00:18:29,673
He's someone
who rose to the top
312
00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,720
of the modeling profession
and had a terrible reputation
313
00:18:32,807 --> 00:18:35,505
for harassing and trying
to sleep with his models.
314
00:18:35,592 --> 00:18:39,422
He met Ghislaine in the '80s,
and she introduced him
315
00:18:39,509 --> 00:18:42,077
to Jeffrey Epstein
in the '90s.
316
00:18:42,164 --> 00:18:44,645
Brunel was another
central figure
317
00:18:44,732 --> 00:18:46,168
in this operation.
318
00:18:48,257 --> 00:18:50,346
They ultimately decide
to go into business
319
00:18:50,433 --> 00:18:52,000
with one another.
320
00:18:52,087 --> 00:18:53,436
Jeffrey Epstein is here
321
00:18:53,523 --> 00:18:56,657
with an unlimited amount
of money,
322
00:18:56,744 --> 00:18:58,267
and Jean-Luc Brunel
is over here
323
00:18:58,354 --> 00:19:00,791
with unlimited access
to young women
324
00:19:00,878 --> 00:19:02,837
that are in
the modeling industry.
325
00:19:02,924 --> 00:19:05,796
It was really
the perfect storm.
326
00:19:05,883 --> 00:19:07,537
Jean-Luc Brunel
was the owner
327
00:19:07,624 --> 00:19:09,278
of the agency
I modeled with.
328
00:19:09,365 --> 00:19:11,933
I had the impression
that he was kind of...
329
00:19:12,020 --> 00:19:14,240
he could make or break
a girl's career.
330
00:19:14,327 --> 00:19:18,069
I was warned by a few models...
stay away from him.
331
00:19:18,157 --> 00:19:21,551
It's easy to capitalize
on the inherent exploitation
332
00:19:21,638 --> 00:19:23,640
that comes with being a model.
333
00:19:26,861 --> 00:19:29,994
It is very common practice,
if you're doing a runway show,
334
00:19:30,081 --> 00:19:32,910
to get undressed very quickly
in front of other people,
335
00:19:32,997 --> 00:19:35,174
and you're desensitized to it
because that's what you do,
336
00:19:35,261 --> 00:19:37,393
you know, to get the job done.
337
00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,439
It puts
very vulnerable women
338
00:19:39,526 --> 00:19:42,442
that are very young
in a position
339
00:19:42,529 --> 00:19:44,052
where they can't say no.
340
00:19:44,139 --> 00:19:48,535
You have no choice
but to submit, to say yes,
341
00:19:48,665 --> 00:19:50,841
in order
to further your career.
342
00:20:02,897 --> 00:20:04,725
As a kid,
what I would daydream about
343
00:20:04,812 --> 00:20:06,901
was being a model.
344
00:20:06,988 --> 00:20:08,381
I remember my room.
345
00:20:08,468 --> 00:20:10,774
My walls were covered
with ad campaigns
346
00:20:10,861 --> 00:20:12,646
and pictures of models.
347
00:20:12,733 --> 00:20:13,864
It just seemed so glamorous.
348
00:20:15,779 --> 00:20:18,304
My parents took photos
in the backyard
349
00:20:18,391 --> 00:20:21,176
and sent them
to several agencies.
350
00:20:21,263 --> 00:20:23,613
Summer after I signed,
I went by myself to New York.
351
00:20:26,964 --> 00:20:29,097
I grew up in rural Alaska.
352
00:20:29,184 --> 00:20:30,881
It was a very unusual place
to grow up.
353
00:20:30,968 --> 00:20:33,188
There's not many people there.
354
00:20:33,275 --> 00:20:34,494
It's mostly surrounded
by nature,
355
00:20:34,581 --> 00:20:36,278
and comforts don't come easy.
356
00:20:36,365 --> 00:20:37,758
Like, running water.
357
00:20:37,845 --> 00:20:39,194
We had an outhouse
for a little while.
358
00:20:40,891 --> 00:20:43,894
So when I left,
I was definitely very naive.
359
00:20:45,896 --> 00:20:48,551
My cousin was living
in San Francisco,
360
00:20:48,638 --> 00:20:50,466
and so I just thought
it was an opportunity
361
00:20:50,553 --> 00:20:52,642
to go down there
and just dip my toe
362
00:20:52,729 --> 00:20:54,818
into what life was like
in the city.
363
00:20:54,905 --> 00:20:57,560
I must have been shy
of my 19th birthday.
364
00:20:57,647 --> 00:20:59,519
I had lived with her
just for a couple months
365
00:20:59,606 --> 00:21:01,347
before I was scouted
to be a model
366
00:21:01,434 --> 00:21:03,218
and moved to New York City.
367
00:21:06,308 --> 00:21:09,746
Jeffrey Epstein
particularly targeted models.
368
00:21:09,833 --> 00:21:12,401
If you come to New York City
and you want to be a model,
369
00:21:12,488 --> 00:21:15,361
being given an opportunity
to meet a very powerful,
370
00:21:15,448 --> 00:21:18,102
very wealthy man
who has connections...
371
00:21:18,189 --> 00:21:19,800
that's an opportunity
that you wanna take.
372
00:21:21,541 --> 00:21:23,325
I was 19.
373
00:21:23,412 --> 00:21:26,633
I was in New York on my own,
which was a scary place,
374
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,504
but I knew that I could do it.
375
00:21:28,591 --> 00:21:30,027
They had me cut my hair
376
00:21:30,114 --> 00:21:31,812
really short
like "Rosemary's Baby,"
377
00:21:31,899 --> 00:21:33,640
and it looked horrible.
378
00:21:33,727 --> 00:21:36,469
After that, they let me go.
379
00:21:36,556 --> 00:21:38,906
I had no money,
and so I started working
380
00:21:38,993 --> 00:21:41,561
at The Coffee Shop
as a hostess.
381
00:21:41,648 --> 00:21:45,086
The Coffee Shop was kind of
a legendary establishment.
382
00:21:45,173 --> 00:21:47,741
They hired models
and actresses,
383
00:21:47,828 --> 00:21:49,482
and that's when I met
the recruiter.
384
00:21:51,092 --> 00:21:53,964
She was a young,
beautiful blonde,
385
00:21:54,051 --> 00:21:55,444
and she was like, "Wow,
you're really beautiful."
386
00:21:57,403 --> 00:21:58,752
And she said, "I actually
wanted to talk to you
387
00:21:58,839 --> 00:22:00,580
about an opportunity."
388
00:22:00,667 --> 00:22:03,104
She told me about this man
that she worked for.
389
00:22:03,191 --> 00:22:05,149
She called him her client,
390
00:22:05,236 --> 00:22:08,370
and he likes
to receive massages
391
00:22:08,457 --> 00:22:09,850
and he'll pay you
several hundred dollars
392
00:22:09,937 --> 00:22:11,808
for 30 minutes.
393
00:22:11,895 --> 00:22:13,332
She just kept making it seem
394
00:22:13,419 --> 00:22:15,246
like a really great
opportunity,
395
00:22:15,334 --> 00:22:16,726
and it just kept sounding
better and better.
396
00:22:16,813 --> 00:22:18,424
He has ties
to the fashion industry.
397
00:22:18,511 --> 00:22:20,730
He's friends
with a bunch of supermodels.
398
00:22:20,817 --> 00:22:22,906
I said, "Well, I don't have
any massage experience."
399
00:22:22,993 --> 00:22:24,734
And she said,
"It doesn't matter.
400
00:22:24,821 --> 00:22:26,475
You know, he just
likes young, pretty girls."
401
00:22:28,259 --> 00:22:30,349
I was broke, and it sounded
like an opportunity
402
00:22:30,436 --> 00:22:32,002
where he could help me
if he liked me.
403
00:22:34,178 --> 00:22:37,094
I had an accident, and I had
to get stitches on my chin.
404
00:22:37,181 --> 00:22:39,183
They didn't think
I was a viable model,
405
00:22:39,270 --> 00:22:41,621
and so they kicked me out
of the modeling apartment.
406
00:22:41,708 --> 00:22:44,667
It was kind of, like,
in survival mode.
407
00:22:44,754 --> 00:22:46,582
A friend of mine at the time
408
00:22:46,669 --> 00:22:48,236
said that she wanted
to introduce me
409
00:22:48,323 --> 00:22:50,369
to a friend of hers,
that he was helping her
410
00:22:50,456 --> 00:22:53,328
pursuing her passion
of being an artist.
411
00:22:53,415 --> 00:22:55,809
That happens every single day
in New York.
412
00:22:55,896 --> 00:22:58,507
It's all about meeting people
and hanging out.
413
00:22:58,594 --> 00:23:00,335
I really didn't think
anything of it.
414
00:23:02,293 --> 00:23:05,209
We took the subway
to the Upper East Side.
415
00:23:05,296 --> 00:23:07,386
I remember my friend
saying that this guy
416
00:23:07,473 --> 00:23:10,214
lived in the largest townhouse
in New York.
417
00:23:10,301 --> 00:23:12,739
The mansion
on East 71st Street
418
00:23:12,826 --> 00:23:14,349
is one of
the largest private residence
419
00:23:14,436 --> 00:23:15,872
in Manhattan.
420
00:23:17,874 --> 00:23:21,791
Very imperial, very kind of
palace-like inside.
421
00:23:21,878 --> 00:23:23,532
It's like a museum,
422
00:23:23,619 --> 00:23:25,447
but it was very dark
and very dreary
423
00:23:25,534 --> 00:23:27,797
and just had this,
like, really eerie feeling.
424
00:23:27,884 --> 00:23:29,756
I never got a good feeling
there at all.
425
00:23:29,843 --> 00:23:31,975
And apparently there was
a room by the front door
426
00:23:32,062 --> 00:23:33,977
with a surveillance system
throughout the whole house
427
00:23:34,064 --> 00:23:36,110
so that things could be
monitored and recorded.
428
00:23:36,197 --> 00:23:38,417
And it was
monitoring everything...
429
00:23:38,504 --> 00:23:41,724
bathrooms, massage rooms,
everyone's room.
430
00:23:41,811 --> 00:23:43,900
The entire mansion
was being watched.
431
00:23:43,987 --> 00:23:46,076
This mansion
had dozens of rooms.
432
00:23:46,163 --> 00:23:49,079
It was intended
to intimidate people.
433
00:23:49,166 --> 00:23:51,734
"Alice in Wonderland"
is, like, how I describe it.
434
00:23:51,821 --> 00:23:53,867
How do I know
how to get out of that house?
435
00:23:53,954 --> 00:23:57,174
That house is huge,
and it's a maze.
436
00:23:57,261 --> 00:23:59,916
Beneath the kind of glamour
and the wealth,
437
00:24:00,003 --> 00:24:02,528
there was a very dark side
to this property.
438
00:24:02,615 --> 00:24:04,573
Jeffrey was
really particular about
439
00:24:04,660 --> 00:24:08,142
who he was seen with, but he
was not a very social person.
440
00:24:08,229 --> 00:24:11,319
He wasn't out in front
of everybody with everything.
441
00:24:11,406 --> 00:24:13,930
He was very private.
442
00:24:14,017 --> 00:24:16,672
Jeffrey always wanted
to meet women at his house.
443
00:24:16,759 --> 00:24:20,589
They always came to his house,
like, behind closed doors.
444
00:24:25,638 --> 00:24:27,161
The appointment was around
445
00:24:27,248 --> 00:24:29,250
11:00 or 12:00
in the afternoon.
446
00:24:31,861 --> 00:24:33,907
A maid answered the door.
447
00:24:33,994 --> 00:24:36,126
She could barely look me
in the eye.
448
00:24:36,213 --> 00:24:38,302
She led me to an elevator
449
00:24:38,389 --> 00:24:40,391
where we went
to the second floor.
450
00:24:40,479 --> 00:24:43,873
I had never seen anything
like that before in my life,
451
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,180
so I just went and sat down
and I was super nervous.
452
00:24:46,267 --> 00:24:48,008
Finally, he walks in
453
00:24:48,095 --> 00:24:50,967
with a towel
wrapped around his body.
454
00:24:51,054 --> 00:24:52,621
I didn't know where I was.
455
00:24:52,708 --> 00:24:53,927
I wasn't really
paying attention
456
00:24:54,014 --> 00:24:55,276
walking into the house.
457
00:24:55,363 --> 00:24:56,320
After the maid
had shut the door,
458
00:24:56,407 --> 00:24:57,844
I felt trapped.
459
00:24:59,628 --> 00:25:00,847
When Jeffrey Epstein
entered the room,
460
00:25:00,934 --> 00:25:03,414
she knew
she was trapped already.
461
00:25:03,502 --> 00:25:06,679
She was terrified already.
462
00:25:06,766 --> 00:25:09,333
The conversation
that he started with her
463
00:25:09,420 --> 00:25:13,294
was to calm her down
so he could get what he wanted.
464
00:25:15,122 --> 00:25:16,253
He asked me
what my name was.
465
00:25:16,340 --> 00:25:18,255
He asked me where I was from.
466
00:25:18,342 --> 00:25:20,170
I told him I was from Texas,
and he was kind of tickled
467
00:25:20,257 --> 00:25:21,998
by it, but it seemed like
business as usual for him.
468
00:25:23,783 --> 00:25:25,393
So he laid facedown
on the massage table
469
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,092
where I very awkwardly began
to massage him.
470
00:25:29,179 --> 00:25:30,790
I didn't know
what I was doing,
471
00:25:30,877 --> 00:25:32,487
and I was like, "This guy
is gonna hate this."
472
00:25:34,315 --> 00:25:36,883
He asked me
to take my clothes off.
473
00:25:36,970 --> 00:25:39,102
I was trembling.
474
00:25:39,189 --> 00:25:41,844
I was so scared,
and I took my clothes off.
475
00:25:43,716 --> 00:25:47,502
He began to touch me...
476
00:25:47,589 --> 00:25:49,243
aggressively.
477
00:25:51,071 --> 00:25:54,727
And it quickly turned
into an assault.
478
00:25:58,165 --> 00:26:00,994
I distinctly remember
him smiling
479
00:26:01,081 --> 00:26:03,474
and enjoying the fact
that he was doing
480
00:26:03,562 --> 00:26:07,740
this horrible thing to me
that obviously terrified me
481
00:26:07,827 --> 00:26:10,699
and was violating me,
482
00:26:10,786 --> 00:26:12,875
but he was somehow
getting off on that.
483
00:26:16,749 --> 00:26:19,186
She knew that she had
484
00:26:19,273 --> 00:26:24,234
to either
fight, run, or freeze.
485
00:26:24,321 --> 00:26:26,802
Those are the three
human responses
486
00:26:26,889 --> 00:26:28,412
to that perceived sense
of danger.
487
00:26:30,719 --> 00:26:32,112
She froze.
488
00:26:34,027 --> 00:26:37,596
Jeffrey came in, and he,
like, interviews me.
489
00:26:37,683 --> 00:26:40,076
"What are your interests?
Where do you live?
490
00:26:40,163 --> 00:26:42,426
I like to help young people.
I'm helping your friend here."
491
00:26:42,513 --> 00:26:44,559
And she's looking at me
and looking all coy
492
00:26:44,646 --> 00:26:45,734
'cause she's sitting
next to me.
493
00:26:47,344 --> 00:26:50,217
My friend
initiated the assault,
494
00:26:50,304 --> 00:26:54,134
and that continued with him
participating in it as well.
495
00:26:55,831 --> 00:26:58,355
It's like all of reality
just kind of fell away.
496
00:26:58,442 --> 00:27:02,142
I just kind of froze,
497
00:27:02,229 --> 00:27:04,405
and I just complied.
498
00:27:07,147 --> 00:27:11,020
They have to do literally
what they have to do
499
00:27:11,107 --> 00:27:14,067
to get out of the moment
and keep their life intact
500
00:27:14,154 --> 00:27:17,505
because the fear
is at a mortal level,
501
00:27:17,592 --> 00:27:21,422
and the damage of that trauma
continues into their lives
502
00:27:21,509 --> 00:27:22,945
from that point forward.
503
00:27:24,860 --> 00:27:26,993
I had never had
a sexual experience before.
504
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,258
I was 19,
and that was my introduction
505
00:27:31,345 --> 00:27:34,304
to any intimate experience.
506
00:27:35,697 --> 00:27:38,482
He handed me the money, $200,
507
00:27:38,569 --> 00:27:40,833
and that was it.
508
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,399
He left.
509
00:27:42,486 --> 00:27:44,314
The maid came back
a couple minutes later,
510
00:27:44,401 --> 00:27:46,621
and she led me out.
511
00:27:46,708 --> 00:27:48,057
I couldn't figure out
what had just hap...
512
00:27:48,144 --> 00:27:50,625
I was so confused.
513
00:27:50,712 --> 00:27:52,801
What just happened?
514
00:27:55,369 --> 00:27:57,588
I called my mom
just bawling in tears.
515
00:27:57,676 --> 00:27:59,808
I said, "You have
to come get me now.
516
00:27:59,895 --> 00:28:02,376
You have to get me.
I can't be here anymore."
517
00:28:02,463 --> 00:28:05,466
And I was home.
518
00:28:06,946 --> 00:28:08,469
But it didn't feel like home
519
00:28:08,556 --> 00:28:10,340
because I wasn't
the same person anymore.
520
00:28:14,562 --> 00:28:16,651
When you traditionally
think of rape,
521
00:28:16,738 --> 00:28:19,045
you think of someone coming in
with, like, you know,
522
00:28:19,132 --> 00:28:21,569
a ski mask on
holding a knife to you,
523
00:28:21,656 --> 00:28:23,789
tying you up, and raping you.
524
00:28:23,876 --> 00:28:25,704
You don't think
of manipulation.
525
00:28:27,531 --> 00:28:29,882
And I remember my friend
clearly saying to me,
526
00:28:29,969 --> 00:28:32,406
"Oh, that was so much fun.
We should do that again."
527
00:28:34,277 --> 00:28:36,018
And she went on,
and he really liked me...
528
00:28:36,105 --> 00:28:38,238
she could tell...
like she was grooming me
529
00:28:38,325 --> 00:28:40,109
to go back.
530
00:28:44,461 --> 00:28:48,988
After a young woman
was abused by Jeffrey Epstein,
531
00:28:49,075 --> 00:28:50,816
she would leave the house,
and she would be called
532
00:28:50,903 --> 00:28:52,774
by one of Jeffrey's assistants
533
00:28:52,861 --> 00:28:54,645
and asked, "Hey, do you
wanna come back again?
534
00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:57,648
Mr. Epstein really liked you.
He wants to see you again."
535
00:28:57,736 --> 00:29:00,434
And he was able
to use this process
536
00:29:00,521 --> 00:29:02,697
to feel out
their comfort level.
537
00:29:08,659 --> 00:29:10,618
Sexual predators
cast their net widely.
538
00:29:10,705 --> 00:29:12,838
They have a pattern
of behavior,
539
00:29:12,925 --> 00:29:15,492
and a type
that they're looking for.
540
00:29:15,579 --> 00:29:18,539
Some of them will have
enough ego strength
541
00:29:18,626 --> 00:29:23,109
or something in their lives
that allows them to escape,
542
00:29:23,196 --> 00:29:26,242
not be swept in, and the ones
that do get swept in
543
00:29:26,329 --> 00:29:29,332
are the ones
that have psychological,
544
00:29:29,419 --> 00:29:32,596
environmental vulnerabilities.
545
00:29:32,683 --> 00:29:34,337
If you're abused,
if you're neglected,
546
00:29:34,424 --> 00:29:40,474
and those are the individuals
that he exploited.
547
00:29:49,265 --> 00:29:51,093
Epstein's
property portfolio
548
00:29:51,180 --> 00:29:53,269
wasn't just about
showing off his wealth
549
00:29:53,356 --> 00:29:55,576
and being ostentatious.
550
00:29:55,663 --> 00:29:58,753
It allowed him to have
private bases in areas
551
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,234
where he could conduct
his sex trafficking operation.
552
00:30:01,321 --> 00:30:03,976
So having a place
in Florida,
553
00:30:04,063 --> 00:30:07,370
New York, Paris,
in New Mexico,
554
00:30:07,457 --> 00:30:09,677
gave him another layer
of privacy,
555
00:30:09,764 --> 00:30:11,070
another layer of secrecy
556
00:30:11,157 --> 00:30:12,723
so that he could carry on
what he's doing.
557
00:30:18,251 --> 00:30:22,733
Jeffrey had bought
this ranch in New Mexico...
558
00:30:24,387 --> 00:30:26,085
And he'd named El Zorro.
559
00:30:30,654 --> 00:30:34,267
Ghislaine's nickname for him
at the time was Silverado.
560
00:30:37,487 --> 00:30:41,274
"Silverado, Silverado,
urban cowboy, desperado."
561
00:30:47,236 --> 00:30:50,500
Zorro Ranch
is this vast holding...
562
00:30:50,587 --> 00:30:54,026
10,000 acres
in southern Santa Fe County.
563
00:30:54,113 --> 00:30:58,813
Part of that 10,000 acres
were 1,200 state-owned land.
564
00:31:01,816 --> 00:31:05,515
I'm the commissioner
of public lands in New Mexico.
565
00:31:05,602 --> 00:31:07,648
So if you look back
in the history
566
00:31:07,735 --> 00:31:10,477
of how this land was acquired
by Jeffrey Epstein,
567
00:31:10,564 --> 00:31:14,263
you'll see these big,
political names pop up.
568
00:31:16,222 --> 00:31:18,180
Jeffrey Epstein
was giving contributions
569
00:31:18,267 --> 00:31:21,140
not only
to the top decision makers,
570
00:31:21,227 --> 00:31:26,406
but at all levels of government
even in the sheriff's race.
571
00:31:28,887 --> 00:31:31,367
What was striking
about going back
572
00:31:31,454 --> 00:31:33,935
through the documents
is that even after
573
00:31:34,022 --> 00:31:37,896
Jeffrey Epstein was arrested,
these leases were renewed
574
00:31:37,983 --> 00:31:39,332
by previous commissioners.
575
00:31:43,466 --> 00:31:46,556
I'm the first woman that's
ever held this position,
576
00:31:46,643 --> 00:31:49,646
and, to me, that's significant
because I look
577
00:31:49,733 --> 00:31:52,519
through a different lens
than my predecessors did.
578
00:31:52,606 --> 00:31:54,216
To know that people
look the other way
579
00:31:54,303 --> 00:31:57,567
and allowed it to continue
is devastating to me.
580
00:32:01,310 --> 00:32:03,965
Jeffrey Epstein
essentially had an island
581
00:32:04,052 --> 00:32:06,446
within the state
of New Mexico.
582
00:32:06,533 --> 00:32:09,014
If you talk with some
of the folks who did work
583
00:32:09,101 --> 00:32:11,320
during the construction,
they talk about
584
00:32:11,407 --> 00:32:13,975
how secretive everything was,
how they had to be escorted
585
00:32:14,062 --> 00:32:15,890
everywhere they went.
586
00:32:15,977 --> 00:32:17,457
There are many stories
about that veil of secrecy.
587
00:32:19,633 --> 00:32:21,461
- Somebody like
- Jeffrey Epstein...
588
00:32:21,548 --> 00:32:25,030
the whole process was designed
to evade detection.
589
00:32:27,510 --> 00:32:31,123
Every single successful
sexual predator
590
00:32:31,210 --> 00:32:33,952
is successful
because the way
591
00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:36,171
that they manipulate,
592
00:32:36,258 --> 00:32:38,478
the way that they
pull the strings.
593
00:32:40,871 --> 00:32:42,961
Jeffrey always wanted
to meet more women.
594
00:32:43,048 --> 00:32:44,571
It was always
about meeting more women.
595
00:32:44,658 --> 00:32:46,399
Some of them were
on the level that I was on.
596
00:32:46,486 --> 00:32:48,140
Some of them were
on the massage level,
597
00:32:48,227 --> 00:32:49,837
and I think he was testing
some of them
598
00:32:49,924 --> 00:32:53,101
for the deeper level
that we've now come to know.
599
00:32:57,714 --> 00:33:00,587
I was born
in Santa Fe, New Mexico.
600
00:33:02,502 --> 00:33:05,505
My parents were divorced
when I was four years old.
601
00:33:07,594 --> 00:33:11,641
It was a tumultuous childhood,
and I was rebellious,
602
00:33:11,728 --> 00:33:13,252
acting out.
603
00:33:13,339 --> 00:33:15,515
Lost my virginity
when I was young.
604
00:33:15,602 --> 00:33:18,257
I started running away
when I was 13 years old
605
00:33:18,344 --> 00:33:22,391
probably seeking
some attention.
606
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,179
As an adult, didn't really
know what I wanted.
607
00:33:29,398 --> 00:33:31,531
And I went to massage school.
608
00:33:35,230 --> 00:33:39,147
He targeted industries
in which he could use
609
00:33:39,234 --> 00:33:42,759
the nature of the job
to get what he wanted.
610
00:33:44,979 --> 00:33:48,113
He knew that to manipulate
the situation
611
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,854
into a sexual relationship
612
00:33:50,941 --> 00:33:52,856
that he didn't have to start
from square one.
613
00:33:52,943 --> 00:33:55,685
He could start with a massage
with touching.
614
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,820
You're recruited by somebody
who's a real masseuse,
615
00:33:59,907 --> 00:34:02,866
and it looks like
there's a massage table,
616
00:34:02,953 --> 00:34:05,695
and it slowly evolves.
617
00:34:08,524 --> 00:34:10,918
Massage school,
it was a really great
618
00:34:11,005 --> 00:34:12,180
turning point in my life.
619
00:34:12,267 --> 00:34:14,269
I did a lot of growing up.
620
00:34:14,356 --> 00:34:16,228
I wasn't running away
and on the streets
621
00:34:16,315 --> 00:34:18,665
and trying to survive.
622
00:34:18,752 --> 00:34:21,711
As a massage therapist,
it put me
623
00:34:21,798 --> 00:34:25,237
in a very positive place
in my life.
624
00:34:25,324 --> 00:34:29,502
During massage school,
I met a massage therapist.
625
00:34:29,589 --> 00:34:32,374
She had a practice,
and she was contracting
626
00:34:32,461 --> 00:34:36,074
other therapists
to do the work for her.
627
00:34:36,161 --> 00:34:39,338
She has a clientele that was
a little more discerning
628
00:34:39,425 --> 00:34:41,818
and that she thought
that I was a good fit for it.
629
00:34:43,516 --> 00:34:46,214
So she contracted me
to go to Zorro Ranch.
630
00:34:51,611 --> 00:34:54,788
When I first went out there,
I massaged Ghislaine.
631
00:34:54,875 --> 00:34:57,530
She made sure
that I knew her name
632
00:34:57,617 --> 00:34:59,532
and how
to pronounce it correctly.
633
00:35:00,968 --> 00:35:03,449
She had this teacup Yorkie.
634
00:35:03,536 --> 00:35:06,408
She says, "This is Max,
short for Maxwell."
635
00:35:06,495 --> 00:35:07,801
And she picks him up
636
00:35:07,888 --> 00:35:10,804
and smothers his face
with kisses.
637
00:35:10,891 --> 00:35:13,589
Ghislaine
was very intimidating to me
638
00:35:13,676 --> 00:35:16,026
'cause I knew we'd come from
complete different worlds.
639
00:35:17,854 --> 00:35:20,901
She disrobed
and plopped on my table.
640
00:35:22,642 --> 00:35:24,948
I was trying to cover her
with the towel, you know,
641
00:35:25,035 --> 00:35:27,647
and do all the proper
draping techniques.
642
00:35:27,734 --> 00:35:30,128
She had no modesty,
643
00:35:30,215 --> 00:35:32,956
but she liked my massage.
644
00:35:34,175 --> 00:35:36,482
She wanted me to come back.
645
00:35:36,569 --> 00:35:38,048
Then I massaged Jeffrey.
646
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,188
Zorro Ranch,
it's about a 40 minute drive
647
00:35:47,275 --> 00:35:49,886
from Santa Fe,
and it's a beautiful drive.
648
00:35:49,973 --> 00:35:51,279
I was really excited.
649
00:35:52,889 --> 00:35:55,153
It's very private,
very secluded.
650
00:35:57,198 --> 00:35:59,679
And then you drive
a quarter of a mile.
651
00:35:59,766 --> 00:36:02,769
You can see stables.
652
00:36:02,856 --> 00:36:05,206
Then you drive
two or three miles
653
00:36:05,293 --> 00:36:06,990
to the main house.
654
00:36:07,077 --> 00:36:09,079
It was enormous.
655
00:36:11,734 --> 00:36:15,085
The massage room
was in a downstairs area
656
00:36:15,173 --> 00:36:17,262
with a gym
and then a massage table
657
00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:20,003
off to the side,
and then double doors
658
00:36:20,090 --> 00:36:21,831
that opened
into a indoor pool.
659
00:36:23,398 --> 00:36:27,446
Very luxurious.
That impressed me.
660
00:36:27,533 --> 00:36:29,839
These people were big,
big-time.
661
00:36:31,319 --> 00:36:33,103
And then he came in.
662
00:36:36,106 --> 00:36:38,979
He was very intimidating
to me,
663
00:36:39,066 --> 00:36:42,243
but, you know, I tried to be
as professional as I could.
664
00:36:42,330 --> 00:36:44,289
I asked him if he had
any outstanding areas
665
00:36:44,376 --> 00:36:46,334
that he wanted me to work on
and he said,
666
00:36:46,421 --> 00:36:48,467
"We'll massage my feet,"
667
00:36:48,554 --> 00:36:49,990
and then he just started
asking me,
668
00:36:50,077 --> 00:36:52,949
"Oh, can you do
my psoas muscle?"
669
00:36:53,036 --> 00:36:54,864
Which is more closer
to the groin.
670
00:36:56,518 --> 00:36:58,346
Before I really even had
a chance
671
00:36:58,433 --> 00:37:00,130
to, like, think about it,
672
00:37:00,218 --> 00:37:03,395
he proceeded to...
673
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,182
Pleasure himself...
674
00:37:08,269 --> 00:37:11,316
and before I knew it, he had
already released himself.
675
00:37:19,802 --> 00:37:22,762
I felt like he just
disrespected my art.
676
00:37:25,330 --> 00:37:27,593
I was just kind of like,
"Ugh, God."
677
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:28,855
I was just like...
678
00:37:31,249 --> 00:37:33,381
"He's just a rich,
eccentric weirdo
679
00:37:33,468 --> 00:37:35,905
and wants to do
whatever he wants to do."
680
00:37:40,736 --> 00:37:43,173
And...
681
00:37:43,261 --> 00:37:45,219
yeah, there was...
he wiped himself off,
682
00:37:45,306 --> 00:37:46,873
and he said,
"Okay, see you next time."
683
00:37:58,014 --> 00:37:59,799
There was some events
that happened
684
00:37:59,886 --> 00:38:01,540
when I was, like,
six years old...
685
00:38:01,627 --> 00:38:05,065
childhood sexual abuse
at the hands
686
00:38:05,152 --> 00:38:07,589
of a teenage boy,
18 years old.
687
00:38:09,287 --> 00:38:11,071
I did not speak out.
688
00:38:11,158 --> 00:38:13,682
I didn't have
the vocabulary for that...
689
00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:18,818
But it happened again,
and then the second time
690
00:38:18,905 --> 00:38:20,646
it happened,
it hit me harder.
691
00:38:20,733 --> 00:38:22,778
It was like,
"I'm not making this up.
692
00:38:22,865 --> 00:38:25,085
I promise,
this happened to me."
693
00:38:25,172 --> 00:38:26,913
I was like,
"Who's here to protect me?"
694
00:38:29,263 --> 00:38:31,221
So it just was
never dealt with, you know?
695
00:38:31,309 --> 00:38:34,703
It was just secret
upon secret upon secret.
696
00:38:37,663 --> 00:38:40,883
A person who comes from
a place where you were abused
697
00:38:40,970 --> 00:38:43,190
by your uncle,
by your stepfather,
698
00:38:43,277 --> 00:38:44,713
by your mother's boyfriend,
699
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,236
then that's
your view of the world...
700
00:38:46,324 --> 00:38:49,283
that you are essentially
701
00:38:49,370 --> 00:38:52,025
a body that an adult male
702
00:38:52,112 --> 00:38:54,723
can use for his own pleasure.
703
00:38:54,810 --> 00:38:57,335
They were called over
for a massage.
704
00:38:57,422 --> 00:39:00,903
It became a sexual assault.
You know, what else is new?
705
00:39:04,342 --> 00:39:06,996
The next time
that I massaged Jeffrey,
706
00:39:07,083 --> 00:39:09,738
it got a little more intense.
707
00:39:11,436 --> 00:39:13,307
He started asking me
to take my shirt off.
708
00:39:15,004 --> 00:39:17,964
You know, he wanted me
to rub oil on myself.
709
00:39:19,139 --> 00:39:20,749
And I really didn't want to.
710
00:39:24,666 --> 00:39:26,102
I felt pressured.
711
00:39:26,189 --> 00:39:28,714
I felt, "Oh, if I don't do it,
712
00:39:28,801 --> 00:39:30,411
then he's not
gonna want me back."
713
00:39:31,978 --> 00:39:34,589
I just allowed it to happen.
714
00:39:39,855 --> 00:39:42,945
I felt shame,
so much shame about it,
715
00:39:43,032 --> 00:39:45,600
but there was that switch
that I was able
716
00:39:45,687 --> 00:39:47,472
to turn on and off.
717
00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:49,952
I think
that was engrained in me.
718
00:39:57,264 --> 00:39:58,918
There are many
different reasons
719
00:39:59,005 --> 00:40:01,616
why people go back.
720
00:40:03,401 --> 00:40:05,707
The one thing
that they all have in common
721
00:40:05,794 --> 00:40:09,319
is a really broken
ego structure.
722
00:40:12,018 --> 00:40:15,413
They don't have the ability
to read themselves
723
00:40:15,500 --> 00:40:17,110
or the situation correctly
724
00:40:17,197 --> 00:40:18,459
because they've
never been taught.
725
00:40:21,984 --> 00:40:23,551
It was almost like I was,
726
00:40:23,638 --> 00:40:25,423
like,
that 6-year-old girl again.
727
00:40:27,947 --> 00:40:29,339
Nobody believed me then,
728
00:40:29,427 --> 00:40:31,298
but are they gonna
believe me now?
729
00:40:39,654 --> 00:40:41,221
So I kept it a secret.
730
00:40:44,703 --> 00:40:49,011
It's like a weight
that you wear your whole life
731
00:40:49,098 --> 00:40:53,842
that allows you
to be subjected
732
00:40:53,929 --> 00:40:56,497
to more abuse.
733
00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:11,294
I blamed myself for making
the wrong choices,
734
00:41:11,381 --> 00:41:15,255
but it's easy to be lured
735
00:41:15,342 --> 00:41:18,954
by money, promises,
736
00:41:19,041 --> 00:41:22,218
and to have your sense
of what's right and wrong
737
00:41:22,305 --> 00:41:25,570
dulled when you've got
all these sparkly things
738
00:41:25,657 --> 00:41:27,354
in front of you.
739
00:41:28,529 --> 00:41:32,315
It's easy to be manipulated
740
00:41:32,402 --> 00:41:37,364
by a very powerful man.
741
00:41:40,367 --> 00:41:42,978
A number of the survivors
of Jeffrey Epstein
742
00:41:43,065 --> 00:41:45,590
had endured some type
of sexual trauma
743
00:41:45,677 --> 00:41:48,375
as children prior
to ever having met him,
744
00:41:48,462 --> 00:41:50,812
and that's
a particular vulnerability
745
00:41:50,899 --> 00:41:53,859
that can be detected
by somebody
746
00:41:53,946 --> 00:41:55,774
who's as masterful
of a manipulator
747
00:41:55,861 --> 00:41:57,297
as Jeffrey Epstein.
748
00:41:59,691 --> 00:42:01,344
Jeffrey wasn't
my first trafficker.
749
00:42:01,431 --> 00:42:03,259
He wasn't my first abuser.
750
00:42:04,913 --> 00:42:06,611
My childhood
was stolen from me.
751
00:42:09,918 --> 00:42:12,573
Beginning three days
after my eighth birthday,
752
00:42:12,660 --> 00:42:16,664
I was first
sexually assaulted,
753
00:42:16,751 --> 00:42:20,276
and that happened repeatedly
for a long time.
754
00:42:22,148 --> 00:42:25,760
I learned back then
that you just kind of
755
00:42:25,847 --> 00:42:27,240
suffer through it.
756
00:42:27,327 --> 00:42:29,242
You suffer in silence.
757
00:42:31,897 --> 00:42:34,508
Growing up
with that experience,
758
00:42:34,595 --> 00:42:37,555
it definitely set me up
for being there
759
00:42:37,642 --> 00:42:39,165
in Jeffrey's office
760
00:42:39,252 --> 00:42:40,949
pretending
like it's not happening.
761
00:42:43,386 --> 00:42:46,433
I got to a point in life
where I felt like...
762
00:42:47,695 --> 00:42:49,262
This is what happens to you.
763
00:42:51,220 --> 00:42:53,527
This is what you're here for.
764
00:42:55,921 --> 00:42:59,446
Like, I'm that object
to be used.
765
00:43:13,982 --> 00:43:17,812
I came from
a very unprivileged life.
766
00:43:19,597 --> 00:43:22,425
Even when we were in a home,
767
00:43:22,512 --> 00:43:24,166
men in and out of the house...
768
00:43:26,212 --> 00:43:29,432
You know,
various levels of abuse...
769
00:43:29,519 --> 00:43:31,652
physically, sexually.
770
00:43:33,523 --> 00:43:36,831
I was in survival mode
from a very young age.
771
00:43:36,918 --> 00:43:39,486
I just wanted
to be away from it all.
772
00:43:46,841 --> 00:43:49,757
I moved in
with my cousin in Hollywood.
773
00:43:49,844 --> 00:43:53,195
The transition to L.A.
was complete life switch.
774
00:43:55,850 --> 00:43:58,636
I was surrounded
by celebrities,
775
00:43:58,723 --> 00:44:00,942
models, and directors.
776
00:44:01,029 --> 00:44:02,944
One of the parties
I was at one night,
777
00:44:03,031 --> 00:44:06,252
this man, Gypsy,
comes walking up to me.
778
00:44:06,339 --> 00:44:09,734
He told me that he was this
massage guru to the stars.
779
00:44:09,821 --> 00:44:12,562
He's drawn to my energy,
but I was holding back.
780
00:44:12,650 --> 00:44:14,434
You know, I had blocks.
781
00:44:14,521 --> 00:44:17,263
Gypsy felt like someone
who was gonna help heal me.
782
00:44:17,350 --> 00:44:19,395
And I really needed it.
783
00:44:21,093 --> 00:44:22,485
Through that,
it became a conversation
784
00:44:22,572 --> 00:44:23,878
of, well, why don't you
learn the trade?
785
00:44:25,663 --> 00:44:27,403
And so, one day,
Gypsy had said
786
00:44:27,490 --> 00:44:29,536
that he had
this regular client,
787
00:44:29,623 --> 00:44:31,930
a socialite from New York
788
00:44:32,017 --> 00:44:33,714
and that he wanted me
to meet her
789
00:44:33,801 --> 00:44:36,717
and come along
for the appointment.
790
00:44:36,804 --> 00:44:38,893
We met her one day
at the Four Seasons Hotel
791
00:44:38,980 --> 00:44:39,894
in Beverly Hills.
792
00:44:41,940 --> 00:44:43,898
Ghislaine was very charming.
793
00:44:43,985 --> 00:44:45,639
She was talking to me so much,
794
00:44:45,726 --> 00:44:48,163
asked me a gazillion
questions about myself.
795
00:44:50,296 --> 00:44:52,428
Sexual predators
bring women into their life,
796
00:44:52,515 --> 00:44:55,127
and they make them
feel cared about
797
00:44:55,214 --> 00:44:58,739
or beautiful or accomplished
or interesting.
798
00:44:58,826 --> 00:45:03,788
That positive regard is
the most intoxicating thing.
799
00:45:07,879 --> 00:45:11,578
She called Gypsy to ask
if I would want to be hired
800
00:45:11,665 --> 00:45:13,667
as a masseuse
at her Palm Beach residence
801
00:45:13,754 --> 00:45:15,060
for the weekend.
802
00:45:15,147 --> 00:45:16,714
I wasn't even certified yet.
803
00:45:18,716 --> 00:45:22,284
Gypsy was just very adamant
that I should go.
804
00:45:22,371 --> 00:45:24,765
He ended up convincing me
that it would be okay.
805
00:45:30,902 --> 00:45:32,512
I met Ghislaine
806
00:45:32,599 --> 00:45:34,296
at a little private airport
in Santa Monica.
807
00:45:34,383 --> 00:45:36,298
Got in a jet
and flew to Palm Beach.
808
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:41,521
Because I was
kind of submerged
809
00:45:41,608 --> 00:45:44,263
in the Hollywood scene
already,
810
00:45:44,350 --> 00:45:47,179
it wasn't that abnormal
for people with money
811
00:45:47,266 --> 00:45:50,138
to do outlandish things
like that...
812
00:45:50,225 --> 00:45:52,401
to hire someone
and fly them somewhere.
813
00:45:52,488 --> 00:45:55,927
None of it seemed
out of the ordinary at first.
814
00:45:56,014 --> 00:45:58,146
I felt like they thought
that I was something special.
815
00:46:00,322 --> 00:46:03,021
We drive to their mansion.
816
00:46:03,108 --> 00:46:04,544
On the way there,
she points out
817
00:46:04,631 --> 00:46:05,632
that Donald Trump's
a neighbor.
818
00:46:07,329 --> 00:46:09,244
She says,
"With my partner Jeffrey,
819
00:46:09,331 --> 00:46:11,246
just do whatever he wants,
and you'll be fine."
820
00:46:13,205 --> 00:46:15,033
One of their assistants
met me at the door...
821
00:46:17,949 --> 00:46:19,907
And she led me
down the hallway
822
00:46:19,994 --> 00:46:22,910
to this giant bathroom
823
00:46:22,997 --> 00:46:24,825
where a massage table
was laid out.
824
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,090
I got it all set up,
825
00:46:29,177 --> 00:46:31,092
and as soon as I had
the sheets on the table,
826
00:46:33,051 --> 00:46:35,401
This man comes waltzing
into the room
827
00:46:35,488 --> 00:46:39,579
and drops his robe and says,
"Hi, I'm Jeffrey," and...
828
00:46:40,798 --> 00:46:42,234
...gets on the table.
829
00:46:44,671 --> 00:46:47,500
And sort of, like,
halfway through the massage,
830
00:46:47,587 --> 00:46:51,243
he flipped over onto his back
and asked if I minded
831
00:46:51,330 --> 00:46:52,287
if he touched himself.
832
00:46:58,163 --> 00:47:01,253
You know, because I had come
from a background of abuse,
833
00:47:01,340 --> 00:47:03,821
when he asked me
if he could touch himself,
834
00:47:03,908 --> 00:47:07,346
you know,
I basically just said sure,
835
00:47:07,433 --> 00:47:10,697
because I didn't know
what else to say or do.
836
00:47:10,784 --> 00:47:13,482
I didn't know how to say no.
837
00:47:13,569 --> 00:47:15,745
I didn't know how to say
that I'm not okay with that.
838
00:47:20,315 --> 00:47:21,751
Your brain
is trying to say,
839
00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:22,883
"I don't understand
what happened."
840
00:47:24,189 --> 00:47:25,843
You find yourself
in circumstances
841
00:47:25,930 --> 00:47:27,409
over and over again where
the same dynamics are there,
842
00:47:27,496 --> 00:47:28,976
the same circumstances there.
843
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:32,850
Reenactment is an attempt
to understand
844
00:47:32,937 --> 00:47:34,373
the sexual abuse,
845
00:47:34,460 --> 00:47:36,505
and the reenactments
tend to be
846
00:47:36,592 --> 00:47:39,073
specific reproductions
of that earlier event
847
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,727
that the mind
is trying to comprehend.
848
00:47:47,952 --> 00:47:49,562
Jeffrey told me
to come over here,
849
00:47:49,649 --> 00:47:51,390
and he pushed me down,
850
00:47:51,477 --> 00:47:54,741
forced oral sex on me
right there, and, um...
851
00:47:56,569 --> 00:48:00,007
Part of the sexual abuse
that I experienced as a kid,
852
00:48:00,094 --> 00:48:03,010
a man I knew
used to force oral sex on me
853
00:48:03,097 --> 00:48:05,012
kind of in the same demeanor.
854
00:48:07,710 --> 00:48:09,234
I would pretend
like I was asleep
855
00:48:09,321 --> 00:48:11,671
to make it go away in my head,
856
00:48:11,758 --> 00:48:14,239
and, you know,
even in that moment,
857
00:48:14,326 --> 00:48:17,024
I remember the same thing.
858
00:48:17,111 --> 00:48:21,115
Like, just almost pretending
like I wasn't there
859
00:48:25,685 --> 00:48:28,818
I was in this state of wanting
to befriend the bad guy
860
00:48:28,906 --> 00:48:31,560
because that's
what I always did with him.
861
00:48:31,647 --> 00:48:34,128
If I was on his good side,
he wouldn't hurt me.
862
00:48:38,306 --> 00:48:40,439
It's almost like
something takes over you
863
00:48:40,526 --> 00:48:43,007
inside your body...
not knowing what to do
864
00:48:43,094 --> 00:48:44,573
and just following
through the motions.
865
00:48:46,053 --> 00:48:48,490
There was no love
or compassion or empathy
866
00:48:48,577 --> 00:48:49,839
in that man's heart whatsoever.
867
00:48:55,323 --> 00:48:58,022
My mind was just going crazy
with what just happened.
868
00:48:59,762 --> 00:49:01,677
There were so many questions
I had in my head,
869
00:49:01,764 --> 00:49:05,116
but I certainly
wasn't gonna go, you know,
870
00:49:05,203 --> 00:49:06,682
tell Ghislaine
or the assistant.
871
00:49:08,510 --> 00:49:10,599
I had that mentality
of, like, you know,
872
00:49:10,686 --> 00:49:12,079
if you don't talk about it,
it didn't happen.
873
00:49:13,472 --> 00:49:15,343
And after that encounter,
874
00:49:15,430 --> 00:49:17,824
Ghislaine actually flew back to L.A.
875
00:49:17,911 --> 00:49:21,262
and proceeded
to book appointments with me.
876
00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:23,003
I had no reason to think
877
00:49:23,090 --> 00:49:25,527
that she had anything
to do with anything.
878
00:49:25,614 --> 00:49:28,791
I already had this feeling of
not wanting to disappoint her
879
00:49:28,878 --> 00:49:30,793
for whatever reason.
880
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,057
She invited me back out
to Palm Beach again.
881
00:49:35,363 --> 00:49:37,061
I thought we were
staying there the weekend
882
00:49:37,148 --> 00:49:39,411
like I had the first time,
but they told me
883
00:49:39,498 --> 00:49:41,891
that we were actually
flying to his island
884
00:49:41,979 --> 00:49:45,460
in the Caribbean
and taking his big plane.
885
00:49:48,202 --> 00:49:50,074
That was certainly shocking.
886
00:49:50,161 --> 00:49:51,771
Like, I had never seen
an airplane like that before.
887
00:49:51,858 --> 00:49:53,207
I mean,
it was like Air Force One.
888
00:49:55,905 --> 00:50:00,432
Bedroom, kitchen, screen room,
living, sitting area,
889
00:50:00,519 --> 00:50:03,870
and I was like, "Okay, wow,
this is a plane.
890
00:50:06,264 --> 00:50:09,267
They got distracted
by the persona
891
00:50:09,354 --> 00:50:12,531
of wealth and privilege
and luxuries and niceties
892
00:50:12,618 --> 00:50:14,402
and look where you are
893
00:50:14,489 --> 00:50:16,143
and look
who you're hobnobbing with.
894
00:50:18,450 --> 00:50:20,017
And that inner voice
has to get loud enough
895
00:50:20,104 --> 00:50:21,540
for that to be
uncomfortable enough
896
00:50:21,627 --> 00:50:23,237
for them to say,
"Wait a minute.
897
00:50:23,324 --> 00:50:25,326
"I don't think this is right.
898
00:50:25,413 --> 00:50:26,936
"I gotta get
the hell out of here.
899
00:50:28,155 --> 00:50:29,591
I can't."
900
00:50:29,678 --> 00:50:32,420
I definitely had to do
some self talk...
901
00:50:32,507 --> 00:50:35,858
that, "What if he
tries to hurt me?"
902
00:50:35,945 --> 00:50:38,078
I thought, "Well, this time
I'll be better prepared,
903
00:50:38,165 --> 00:50:40,080
and I'll be able to say no."
904
00:50:40,167 --> 00:50:42,343
Or even, you know,
I had this blind hope
905
00:50:42,430 --> 00:50:44,171
that maybe he
just wouldn't do it again.
76326
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