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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,579 --> 00:00:09,680 Excuse me, Mr. Littleton. 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,300 Yeah. I'm Larry Adler from the Attorney General's office. 3 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:19,700 How you doing? I apologize for the intrusion, but I'm handling the David 4 00:00:19,700 --> 00:00:20,700 Robinson prosecution. 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,040 You familiar with the case? 6 00:00:23,300 --> 00:00:26,280 You can't turn on the news without seeing that videotape. Exactly. 7 00:00:27,380 --> 00:00:29,920 Well, yesterday the defense attorney won his venue motion. 8 00:00:30,260 --> 00:00:31,920 The case has been transferred to Rome. 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,720 Here? Your Judge Bone accepted it. We begin voir dire tomorrow. 10 00:00:37,870 --> 00:00:39,210 I'd like you to handle it. 11 00:00:40,330 --> 00:00:41,570 I beg your pardon? 12 00:00:42,030 --> 00:00:43,030 With me. 13 00:00:43,830 --> 00:00:46,410 The facts are simple. I can have you up to speed in an hour. 14 00:00:46,650 --> 00:00:49,470 Wait. You want me to try this case? 15 00:00:50,430 --> 00:00:53,390 Why? The jurors here will see in you a face they trust. 16 00:00:54,250 --> 00:00:59,810 You're an exceptional DA and you're... The defendant's attorney is Brian 17 00:01:00,430 --> 00:01:04,170 I'm sure he's going to characterize this prosecution as an exercise in white 18 00:01:04,170 --> 00:01:05,170 supremacy. 19 00:01:05,310 --> 00:01:06,930 And you have the necessary... 20 00:01:08,589 --> 00:01:10,290 Pigmentation to neutralize that attack. 21 00:01:12,790 --> 00:01:17,170 I don't appreciate being selected because of skin color, Mr. Adler. 22 00:01:17,910 --> 00:01:19,150 You seen the videotape? 23 00:01:20,570 --> 00:01:23,490 Yes. Is it your opinion Mr. Robinson committed murder? 24 00:01:27,270 --> 00:01:30,210 Yes. Then what else do you need as a prosecutor to go forward? 25 00:01:31,910 --> 00:01:33,770 I'm trying to put a killer behind bars. 26 00:01:34,610 --> 00:01:36,710 If you're being black, help serve that purpose. 27 00:01:37,370 --> 00:01:39,710 I'm not ashamed to avail myself of that advantage. 28 00:01:41,930 --> 00:01:43,770 Will you do it or not? 29 00:02:47,940 --> 00:02:49,860 I got summoned to jury duty. 30 00:02:50,940 --> 00:02:53,160 Well, half the town's been summoned, Jenny. 31 00:02:53,380 --> 00:02:54,480 It's a big murder trial. 32 00:02:54,700 --> 00:02:56,860 I don't have time to sit on a jury. 33 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,560 Well, your last name begins with W. By the time they get to you, the jury will 34 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,200 probably be filled. I got summoned too. 35 00:03:02,580 --> 00:03:04,480 Pike. They'll probably get to P. 36 00:03:04,820 --> 00:03:06,080 I'd love to be on that jury. 37 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,080 Why? Bryant Thomas is the defense attorney. 38 00:03:09,300 --> 00:03:10,760 The Bryant Thomas. 39 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,800 We should be co -counselors. Why is that? 40 00:03:16,380 --> 00:03:17,380 You're asking me why? 41 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,020 The jurors of Rome all know me, plus which you're very black. 42 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,260 Oh, I see. The defendant is African -American. I would hate for the jurors 43 00:03:25,260 --> 00:03:27,840 think that you took this case out of race alone. 44 00:03:28,420 --> 00:03:32,420 Me, they know that I would only represent the client I believed in. 45 00:03:32,620 --> 00:03:36,480 Do you believe David Robinson is innocent? With all my heart, as soon as 46 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,160 retainer. If you did your homework, you would know me and want me, because I 47 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:40,879 always win. 48 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:45,280 I have done the homework, Mr. Wambaugh. I know exactly who you are, and you're 49 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:46,480 hired. I am? 50 00:03:47,740 --> 00:03:49,620 There's been a lot of publicity in this case. 51 00:03:50,060 --> 00:03:52,040 Do you believe you could render an impartial judgment? 52 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:53,640 I believe I could. 53 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,600 This juror is acceptable, Your Honor. Do you believe that these news accounts 54 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:00,600 are true? 55 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:01,920 I don't know. 56 00:04:03,020 --> 00:04:08,120 Mrs. Bales, these are policemen who were killed. Do you believe it's possible 57 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,340 that anybody could be justified in killing a policeman? 58 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,500 Well, it would depend on what the officer was doing. 59 00:04:16,289 --> 00:04:19,470 Defense accepts this juror. Mrs. Bales, report to the jury room. 60 00:04:19,850 --> 00:04:22,630 Oh, and tell Walter he'll be cooking his own meals for a while. 61 00:04:23,130 --> 00:04:24,130 Next. 62 00:04:24,350 --> 00:04:25,350 James Brock. 63 00:04:28,330 --> 00:04:29,990 Prosecution accepts Sheriff Brock, Your Honor. 64 00:04:31,950 --> 00:04:33,410 Has he been removed for cause? 65 00:04:33,890 --> 00:04:37,290 Objection. He may be the police, but he's an objective and a fair man. 66 00:04:37,610 --> 00:04:38,610 I agree. 67 00:04:38,730 --> 00:04:42,210 Sheriff Brock is capable of impartiality. If you want to remove him, 68 00:04:42,210 --> 00:04:43,610 to use one of your peremptory challenges. 69 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,200 He is fair. 70 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,700 And he goes for underdogs. He's got to be pro -police. Just the opposite. 71 00:04:51,140 --> 00:04:53,640 He's so objective you can vomit. Take him. 72 00:04:55,820 --> 00:04:56,920 We accept this man. 73 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,900 Your Honor, I'm the sheriff. 74 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:01,840 You're also on the jury. 75 00:05:02,740 --> 00:05:03,740 Next. 76 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:07,140 Are you sure about him? 77 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,060 A murder's a murder. He put away his own best friend. 78 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:11,960 Jill Brock. 79 00:05:13,940 --> 00:05:17,320 Remove for cause, Your Honor. She's married to the last juror. If you want 80 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,520 exercise a challenge, do it. But she's fair. 81 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:20,720 There's no cause. 82 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:21,800 What about her? 83 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:22,840 The worst. 84 00:05:22,940 --> 00:05:26,740 She's married to a cop, plus which her own son just got shot. 85 00:05:26,980 --> 00:05:27,980 Get rid of her. 86 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,040 Re -challenge. 87 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:33,680 Dr. Brock, your excuse. 88 00:05:36,220 --> 00:05:37,940 Have you ever served on a jury before? 89 00:05:38,460 --> 00:05:39,780 Do you keep a gun in the house? 90 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,900 What kind of bumper stickers do you have in your car? 91 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,120 Did you ever participate in any protests or demonstrations? 92 00:05:45,620 --> 00:05:48,360 If he didn't do it, they wouldn't have arrested him. I only slept with one 93 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,980 policeman. Rodney King was on PCP. 94 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,060 A total breakdown of the community's morals. 95 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:54,880 Are you related to any police officers? 96 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:56,560 If he'd murder, he'd lie. 97 00:05:56,820 --> 00:05:58,020 Three strikes, you're in. 98 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,119 I could be fair. 99 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:00,820 I could be fair. I could be fair. 100 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,820 Ladies and gentlemen, I'd now like to show you a videotape. 101 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,540 Now, I'm sure most of you have seen this on news broadcasts before, but I'm 102 00:06:12,540 --> 00:06:15,480 asking you to forget what you've heard and what you've seen and just pay 103 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:20,540 attention to what we present here. Your Honor, defense renews its objection to 104 00:06:20,540 --> 00:06:21,540 this videotape. 105 00:06:22,180 --> 00:06:26,940 Overruled. Members of the jury, this tape was recorded by the defendant's own 106 00:06:26,940 --> 00:06:28,160 home security system. 107 00:06:28,460 --> 00:06:32,500 The court recognizes its authenticity. Play it. You'll notice at the end we've 108 00:06:32,500 --> 00:06:35,040 enhanced the picture electronically for identification. 109 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,560 David, we all saw that tape. 110 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,580 What we need to hear from you now is, what the hell were you thinking? 111 00:07:25,460 --> 00:07:30,340 I sell drugs to a lot of bad people. Guys who shoot me dead faster than that. 112 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:31,700 Thought it was one of them. 113 00:07:32,100 --> 00:07:33,100 What, David? 114 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,340 Why would a client want to shoot you? 115 00:07:36,060 --> 00:07:37,060 I cheated them. 116 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,000 Sold some sugar sometimes. 117 00:07:39,980 --> 00:07:42,980 Oh, so you thought maybe it was somebody you cheated. 118 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:45,220 Come looking for payback. 119 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:46,640 Dead. 120 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,200 Next thing I know, I just see guns flying all up in the air. 121 00:07:50,140 --> 00:07:52,820 Didn't you recognize these people as police officers? 122 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:55,800 Yes. 123 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,100 You still shot at them? 124 00:07:59,340 --> 00:08:02,360 They was pointing their guns at me. 125 00:08:04,020 --> 00:08:06,600 If I didn't shoot them, I'd be dead. 126 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,260 Had the police shot at you before? Or anybody close to you? 127 00:08:11,900 --> 00:08:13,040 This ain't about that. 128 00:08:13,380 --> 00:08:14,560 Had the police shot at you? 129 00:08:14,890 --> 00:08:15,890 Or anybody you love? 130 00:08:20,330 --> 00:08:21,430 Please answer the question. 131 00:08:23,910 --> 00:08:24,910 My mother. 132 00:08:25,750 --> 00:08:26,750 Excuse me? 133 00:08:28,230 --> 00:08:30,830 They killed my mother. 134 00:08:35,510 --> 00:08:36,870 And why? 135 00:08:38,750 --> 00:08:40,669 My mother and my father was fighting. 136 00:08:42,010 --> 00:08:43,010 And they came. 137 00:08:44,969 --> 00:08:46,830 She waved a knife at them. 138 00:08:48,950 --> 00:08:50,330 And they shot her. 139 00:08:52,370 --> 00:08:53,370 Your Honor. 140 00:08:56,390 --> 00:09:00,290 I introduce this autopsy report on Mrs. Robinson. 141 00:09:01,370 --> 00:09:02,370 Objection irrelevant. 142 00:09:02,870 --> 00:09:04,470 Policeman killed this boy's mother. 143 00:09:05,170 --> 00:09:07,730 It is your position that that fact is irrelevant? 144 00:09:09,550 --> 00:09:10,550 Meaningless? 145 00:09:16,330 --> 00:09:17,870 The people withdraw the objection. 146 00:09:22,790 --> 00:09:29,250 Let the record reflect that Mrs. Robinson was struck by seven bullets, 147 00:09:29,250 --> 00:09:33,730 them in the back. Let the record also reflect Milwaukee Internal Affairs 148 00:09:33,730 --> 00:09:37,490 the killing as justified. No officer was disciplined. 149 00:09:40,110 --> 00:09:45,030 David, were you there when the police killed your mother? 150 00:09:49,689 --> 00:09:51,330 Yes. And how old were you at this time? 151 00:09:53,730 --> 00:09:56,590 I was nine. 152 00:09:58,190 --> 00:09:59,190 Nine years old? 153 00:10:06,870 --> 00:10:13,650 I don't think he had to keep shooting. 154 00:10:13,670 --> 00:10:15,270 That's all, Jimmy. No matter how good he was. 155 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,280 What the judge said. It might be expedient to just organize the facts 156 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:24,940 editorializing. No, there's no discussion until all the evidence is in. 157 00:10:24,940 --> 00:10:28,340 at the Menendez trial, some of the jurors went kind of crazy. 158 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,040 Ask me, they were all crazy. 159 00:10:30,560 --> 00:10:33,540 How could they not have fried those two kids? I don't think we could talk about 160 00:10:33,540 --> 00:10:36,180 that trial either. What, we could sit here and talk about nothing? 161 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:37,620 Maybe we could choose a format. 162 00:10:37,980 --> 00:10:40,020 Yeah, we can do that, can't we? 163 00:10:40,620 --> 00:10:41,880 I think it should be you, Jimmy. 164 00:10:44,759 --> 00:10:46,620 I don't think that's a good idea. 165 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:47,819 Why not? 166 00:10:47,820 --> 00:10:49,900 You understand the law better than any of us. 167 00:10:50,220 --> 00:10:52,420 You be foreman. It's got to be you, Jimmy. 168 00:10:52,980 --> 00:10:53,980 I'll vote for it. 169 00:10:54,900 --> 00:10:55,859 I agree. 170 00:10:55,860 --> 00:10:56,860 Me too. Great. 171 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,900 Why did you have video equipment set up in your apartment? 172 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:09,180 I have a safe room in the back where I usually work the video so I could see if 173 00:11:09,180 --> 00:11:10,180 people were coming. 174 00:11:10,190 --> 00:11:12,950 So you had an expectation that people could come crashing through your door? 175 00:11:13,410 --> 00:11:18,110 I knew it could happen. I wasn't, like, expecting it. Well, in fact, the police 176 00:11:18,110 --> 00:11:20,810 had entered your apartment before to conduct a search, hadn't they? 177 00:11:22,310 --> 00:11:27,490 What? So when you picked up your automatic weapon, you at least had to 178 00:11:27,490 --> 00:11:31,510 the possibility that the people coming in were law enforcement officers. 179 00:11:31,750 --> 00:11:35,530 All I knew was that someone could be coming in to get me. 180 00:11:35,790 --> 00:11:38,430 But then you recognized them as police officers. 181 00:11:38,910 --> 00:11:40,910 And you still just started shooting. 182 00:11:41,410 --> 00:11:43,550 They was about to shoot me. 183 00:11:44,230 --> 00:11:45,450 Their guns was up. 184 00:11:45,670 --> 00:11:49,190 What if you hadn't picked up your gun? What if you'd just thrown your hands up 185 00:11:49,190 --> 00:11:51,150 in the air when you first heard that noise? Why didn't you do that? 186 00:11:52,270 --> 00:11:53,810 Look, I told you. 187 00:11:54,750 --> 00:11:58,110 I thought it could have been someone coming to get me. 188 00:11:58,890 --> 00:12:03,690 I didn't realize it was the police until they came in. 189 00:12:04,250 --> 00:12:06,250 And they came in taking aim. 190 00:12:09,870 --> 00:12:14,850 So after you shot the officers and they went down, you continued to shoot for 191 00:12:14,850 --> 00:12:15,970 four or five seconds. 192 00:12:17,210 --> 00:12:23,930 According to the coroner's report, you put approximately 20 bullets into each 193 00:12:23,930 --> 00:12:25,690 them after they hit the floor. 194 00:12:26,110 --> 00:12:29,650 And I didn't have my senses down. I was just like pulling the trigger and I 195 00:12:29,650 --> 00:12:30,609 didn't have my senses. 196 00:12:30,610 --> 00:12:33,230 Well, when you walked over and kicked them to make sure they were dead, did 197 00:12:33,230 --> 00:12:34,910 have your senses then? Excuse me. 198 00:12:35,639 --> 00:12:40,020 By senses, do you mean the sensibilities one grows up with in privileged white 199 00:12:40,020 --> 00:12:44,100 suburbia? Mr. Thomas, don't be pulling your stunts here. 200 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:45,860 I'm sorry, Your Honor. 201 00:12:46,340 --> 00:12:50,260 I didn't think that drawing an accurate picture of this boy's reality would be 202 00:12:50,260 --> 00:12:51,720 classified as a stunt. 203 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:54,740 Step up here a second. 204 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,800 If you try doing to me what you do to other judges... 205 00:13:04,430 --> 00:13:05,650 You'll experience regret. 206 00:13:06,350 --> 00:13:08,490 Stick to the case. We'll get along fine. 207 00:13:09,510 --> 00:13:11,130 Resort to manipulative crap. 208 00:13:11,390 --> 00:13:12,570 I'll embarrass you badly. 209 00:13:13,850 --> 00:13:15,210 Do we have an understanding? 210 00:13:16,090 --> 00:13:17,490 Yes, Your Honor. Good. 211 00:13:17,830 --> 00:13:18,830 Get back. 212 00:13:21,610 --> 00:13:23,210 One more question, Mr. Robinson. 213 00:13:23,470 --> 00:13:26,010 Have you met the families of the officers you killed? 214 00:13:26,690 --> 00:13:27,690 No. 215 00:13:29,090 --> 00:13:32,410 Here they are, right here. Objection! Excuse me, counsel. 216 00:13:33,150 --> 00:13:35,370 Do you mean to tell me that these families are irrelevant? 217 00:13:36,570 --> 00:13:37,570 Meaningless? 218 00:13:37,810 --> 00:13:41,290 Let the record reflect that I'm impressed with Mr. Littleton's token 219 00:13:41,290 --> 00:13:45,150 performance. Objection! Let the record reflect that my black pride is wounded, 220 00:13:45,150 --> 00:13:47,530 and as soon as we're finished here, I'm going to run right out and rent Ruth. 221 00:13:47,970 --> 00:13:53,270 Hey, the record will reflect that I won't put up with any more nonsense from 222 00:13:53,270 --> 00:13:54,129 either of you. 223 00:13:54,130 --> 00:13:55,130 Try the case. 224 00:13:57,750 --> 00:14:01,890 The fear of the police was certainly well -founded. It couldn't be classified 225 00:14:01,890 --> 00:14:05,020 paranoia. He knew the nature and consequences of his actions. 226 00:14:05,260 --> 00:14:06,620 This was not insanity. 227 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,560 He thought he was going to die. 228 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,160 The defendant could very well have been in shock. 229 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,740 Justifiable self -defense. The young man was in reasonable fear for his life. 230 00:14:16,940 --> 00:14:20,260 Murder, first degree. It was a deliberate act to kill with clear 231 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,960 Absolutely. Absolutely not. 232 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:24,199 Thank you, doctor. 233 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:25,740 Thank you, doctor. Thank you, doctor. 234 00:14:25,980 --> 00:14:28,580 And may I say... Nothing further. Nothing further. 235 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:29,800 Nothing further. 236 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:42,120 I won't ask you to try to understand how a boy can grow up to sell cocaine for a 237 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:48,280 living. I won't ask you to try to understand why he had a loaded Uzi under 238 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:54,480 sofa. And I certainly, most certainly, will not try to ask you to understand 239 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,960 how you could take that weapon and shoot two policemen. 240 00:14:59,300 --> 00:15:02,720 All I will ask is that you admit that you cannot understand. 241 00:15:03,590 --> 00:15:07,410 If you didn't grow up in an inner -city ghetto, being beaten by your father, 242 00:15:07,490 --> 00:15:11,730 shot at by your neighbors, watching your own mother murdered by people whose 243 00:15:11,730 --> 00:15:14,970 motto it is to serve and protect and admit, damn it, that she can't 244 00:15:16,010 --> 00:15:20,570 And don't go in that jury room saying, well, gee, if it was me, I wouldn't do 245 00:15:20,570 --> 00:15:22,030 this, I wouldn't do that. Well, it wasn't you. 246 00:15:22,750 --> 00:15:27,490 He didn't grow up with your socioeconomic background and with 247 00:15:27,490 --> 00:15:28,870 in a nice little town like this. 248 00:15:29,370 --> 00:15:30,430 It was his father. 249 00:15:31,110 --> 00:15:32,110 His father. 250 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:38,820 was the addict that turned him on to drugs and then systematically abused and 251 00:15:38,820 --> 00:15:39,820 molested him. 252 00:15:39,980 --> 00:15:46,780 Just... I had the decency to acknowledge that you just 253 00:15:46,780 --> 00:15:50,320 don't have any idea of what it's like to be him. 254 00:15:51,740 --> 00:15:56,520 You heard the doctors tell you that because of his father's treatment, 255 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,900 he saw his mother killed by the police, he has no psychological basis whatsoever 256 00:15:59,900 --> 00:16:01,860 to even understand the concept of safety. 257 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,780 The two institutions of protection that we all grew up with, the family, the 258 00:16:06,780 --> 00:16:09,420 police, to David Robinson are deadly forces. 259 00:16:09,860 --> 00:16:16,020 I could bring in a hundred more experts, and you still wouldn't have any 260 00:16:16,020 --> 00:16:20,220 idea ever of what it's like to be him. 261 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,880 Grieve for the slain officers, of course. 262 00:16:32,330 --> 00:16:33,330 They were fine men. 263 00:16:34,510 --> 00:16:39,030 But if you're not grieving for David Robinson, at the same time, right here, 264 00:16:39,190 --> 00:16:46,070 then accept that as absolute truth that you just can't understand. 265 00:18:01,070 --> 00:18:02,070 Well, okay. 266 00:18:02,750 --> 00:18:08,530 I guess maybe we could go around the room, hear what everyone has to say. 267 00:18:08,850 --> 00:18:10,630 Jimmy, let's take a quick vote first. 268 00:18:10,850 --> 00:18:12,830 I mean, I don't think it's going to take too long. 269 00:18:13,210 --> 00:18:16,210 Is there anybody in this room that doesn't think this guy's guilty? 270 00:18:18,170 --> 00:18:22,790 Even still, we should talk before we vote. What's to say? 271 00:18:23,110 --> 00:18:25,730 The only reason he stopped shooting is because he ran out of bullets. 272 00:18:26,290 --> 00:18:27,290 He was scared. 273 00:18:28,530 --> 00:18:29,850 Even the psychologist. 274 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,660 supported that. Oh, I believe the psychiatric testimony was a wash. 275 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,440 Half supported the self -defense claim, the other half summarily dismissed. 276 00:18:37,780 --> 00:18:40,880 His father did abuse him. That was never refuted by the prosecution. 277 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:46,760 So? So physical and sexual abuse can be very damaging emotionally. 278 00:18:47,380 --> 00:18:51,940 Look, I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm getting a little sick of 279 00:18:51,940 --> 00:18:57,180 people killing people, committing murder, and then crying I was an abused 280 00:18:57,420 --> 00:18:58,800 Exactly. Me too. 281 00:18:59,350 --> 00:19:03,010 I don't care how much abuse a person takes, it can never excuse taking a 282 00:19:03,010 --> 00:19:04,950 life. She's absolutely right. 283 00:19:05,250 --> 00:19:07,730 Well, I think we should take a quick vote and see where we are. 284 00:19:09,370 --> 00:19:10,450 All those for guilty. 285 00:19:15,150 --> 00:19:16,150 Okay, not guilty. 286 00:19:17,270 --> 00:19:18,490 Oh, give me a break. 287 00:19:19,270 --> 00:19:20,270 Cindy, you didn't vote. 288 00:19:20,470 --> 00:19:24,750 I feel nauseous. Conflict makes me queasy. Hey, lady, didn't you see that 289 00:19:25,330 --> 00:19:26,330 I saw it. 290 00:19:27,090 --> 00:19:28,550 Okay, we got ten. 291 00:19:29,100 --> 00:19:35,900 The guilty, one not guilty, one undecided. 292 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:41,600 This is great. This is great. Now, look, we do have to have this unanimous. 293 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,600 Twelve to nothing. 294 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,160 Mrs. Bales, maybe we should hear from you. 295 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,620 I have a reasonable doubt. 296 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,460 Maybe he was scared for his life. 297 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,980 I have a very reasonable doubt. 298 00:19:56,780 --> 00:19:57,780 Ma 'am. 299 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,200 Ten of us just voted guilty. Doesn't that tell you something? 300 00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:03,180 Yes, that Mr. Thomas was right. 301 00:20:04,020 --> 00:20:05,220 You don't understand. 302 00:20:06,860 --> 00:20:09,240 Oh, brother, all it takes is one. 303 00:20:09,940 --> 00:20:11,000 Too bad, then. 304 00:20:11,980 --> 00:20:12,980 You've got one. 305 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,920 Look, Mrs. Bell, it's almost 11 o 'clock. For the last seven hours, you 306 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,500 keep saying, reasonable doubt, reasonable doubt. 307 00:20:23,820 --> 00:20:25,220 I think he was scared. 308 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:26,980 He's watching television. 309 00:20:27,550 --> 00:20:29,690 Suddenly people come busting in his door. 310 00:20:30,150 --> 00:20:31,590 Who wouldn't be afraid? 311 00:20:32,050 --> 00:20:38,130 But, ma 'am, he fired after he recognized them as police. He testified 312 00:20:38,630 --> 00:20:42,570 Even so, he thought the police would kill him. Oh, come on. 313 00:20:42,830 --> 00:20:46,970 Well, the psychiatrist said that his fear of the police was legitimate. 314 00:20:47,370 --> 00:20:50,310 The psychiatrists you're referring to were paid by the defense to give that 315 00:20:50,310 --> 00:20:53,890 testimony. Who said that? I never heard that. Well, figure it out. 316 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,400 Or is it against the rules to use a little common sense? 317 00:20:56,660 --> 00:21:00,320 Oh, come on. You don't have to be denied. The guy killed him. We saw it. 318 00:21:00,820 --> 00:21:03,180 For you to say not guilty, you've got to be out of your mind. 319 00:21:03,380 --> 00:21:04,600 She's not out of her mind. 320 00:21:05,460 --> 00:21:07,400 I'm starting to agree with her. 321 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:09,440 Excuse me? 322 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,800 I definitely think he was wrong, but it's possible that he was scared for his 323 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,920 life. I mean, the police killed his mother. How could he not be scared when 324 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,260 think about it? See, this is a problem. 325 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,800 These two women, they're what's wrong with the whole system. The reason that 326 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,440 those Menendez wackos weren't convicted is because we had too many housewife 327 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,200 jurors who spend their whole day watching Oprah and Sarah Jessie Raoul 328 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,580 buying into that psychobabble cockamamie crap. 329 00:21:35,220 --> 00:21:37,340 That is not an appropriate thing to say. 330 00:21:37,660 --> 00:21:40,800 Well, I'm sorry, and I'm sure you're going to need therapy now that I've said 331 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,540 it. But the fact is, people everywhere are into this victimization thing. 332 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,280 Look, everybody's a victim. Everybody's got psychological scars that made them 333 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,900 do what they did. Shouldn't we let somebody else talk now? I'm not 334 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,520 My father used to beat the hell out of me. Lots of people have traumatic stuff 335 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:57,520 in their past. 336 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,240 You know what the scientific term for that is? 337 00:22:00,940 --> 00:22:02,920 Life. Life is tough. 338 00:22:03,940 --> 00:22:07,660 Look, I'm sorry this kid got molested. I'm sorry his mother got killed. But 339 00:22:07,660 --> 00:22:11,900 doesn't give him the right to pick up an Uzi and pump a hundred bullets into two 340 00:22:11,900 --> 00:22:12,900 innocent cops. 341 00:22:13,470 --> 00:22:18,170 Even so, according to the judge's instructions, if he was afraid for his 342 00:22:18,210 --> 00:22:22,450 it was self -defense. If the fear is reasonable, these were policemen. 343 00:22:23,210 --> 00:22:24,210 So? 344 00:22:25,090 --> 00:22:28,650 So, of course, police are going to have guns. It's their job. 345 00:22:29,530 --> 00:22:32,810 It's not reasonable to think because they have a gun, they're going to shoot. 346 00:22:35,250 --> 00:22:39,770 Forgive me, but it's my understanding that policemen occasionally do shoot 347 00:22:39,770 --> 00:22:40,770 innocent people. 348 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,120 As for the defendant's understanding, how could he not be fearful? 349 00:22:44,460 --> 00:22:45,600 As Mrs. 350 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,120 Cranepool correctly points out, his own mother was murdered in his home by 351 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:50,120 police. 352 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:58,560 Um, so what are you saying? That because they were police, he had more reason to 353 00:22:58,560 --> 00:22:59,560 be afraid? 354 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,240 I'm saying because they were police, he had no less reason to be afraid. 355 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:10,140 Mr. Kramer, to me, your logic is preposterous. 356 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,260 I'm sure it would be to you. 357 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,080 You're a sheriff. 358 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,640 But I'll tell you this. I'm a law -abiding citizen who's never had a run 359 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:18,640 with law enforcement. 360 00:23:18,740 --> 00:23:22,260 But as soon as I see a cruiser in my rearview mirror, the first sensation I 361 00:23:22,260 --> 00:23:23,260 is one of fear. 362 00:23:23,500 --> 00:23:25,880 I can imagine what goes through David Robinson. 363 00:23:26,420 --> 00:23:30,140 And so that entitles him to blast anyone in any uniform just because he got... 364 00:23:30,140 --> 00:23:33,280 It entitles him to be profoundly afraid of any uniform bashing down his front 365 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,280 door. 366 00:23:35,460 --> 00:23:36,780 What line of work are you in? 367 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:38,560 I'm a schoolteacher. 368 00:23:40,090 --> 00:23:41,090 Uh -huh. 369 00:23:42,070 --> 00:23:43,230 What does that mean, uh -huh? 370 00:23:43,470 --> 00:23:45,110 You talk like a schoolteacher. 371 00:23:45,750 --> 00:23:46,750 What do you do? 372 00:23:48,750 --> 00:23:51,910 I deliver mail for the United States Postal Service. 373 00:23:52,930 --> 00:23:56,610 I see. Well, Mr. Lawson, I certainly hope that you get a more sympathetic 374 00:23:56,610 --> 00:23:59,110 after you open fire one day in a fast food restaurant. 375 00:23:59,710 --> 00:24:01,030 Never mind. It's funny. 376 00:24:01,290 --> 00:24:04,610 That's enough. You got something to say to me? Come on. Say it. No, this is not 377 00:24:04,610 --> 00:24:06,010 the least bit constructive. 378 00:24:06,430 --> 00:24:09,150 Now, what I would like to do is to isolate. 379 00:24:09,770 --> 00:24:11,190 The two dividing points. 380 00:24:11,510 --> 00:24:12,610 Well, you're not the foreman. 381 00:24:13,150 --> 00:24:16,690 Well, I realize that, Mrs. Cranepool, but management is a strength. 382 00:24:17,010 --> 00:24:21,370 Yes, but we all know that you're a big CEO of a big paper company, but in this 383 00:24:21,370 --> 00:24:23,070 room, we're all the same. 384 00:24:23,650 --> 00:24:25,830 You're no more important than any of us. Uh -huh. 385 00:24:26,770 --> 00:24:32,030 You, uh, you wouldn't be using this room as an equalizer, would you, Mrs. 386 00:24:32,130 --> 00:24:37,190 Cranepool? I'm sorry. Perhaps this is your opportunity as a housewife to be as 387 00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:42,090 significant as a CEO, or maybe your 15 minutes of influence is more relevant to 388 00:24:42,090 --> 00:24:43,670 you than the facts of this case. 389 00:24:44,090 --> 00:24:45,370 Now, you're getting off the track. 390 00:24:45,570 --> 00:24:46,570 Actually, I'm not. 391 00:24:46,810 --> 00:24:49,850 There's a hugely selfish tone to this whole deliberation. 392 00:24:50,310 --> 00:24:54,850 Opinions being dominated by a mailman, a schoolteacher, and two housewives. 393 00:24:55,290 --> 00:24:59,310 What does that mean? It means, Mr. Kramer, that for all your good 394 00:24:59,310 --> 00:25:02,990 think that... There's an unconscious infatuation with power that's being 395 00:25:02,990 --> 00:25:06,050 demonstrated by some people who don't normally enjoy it. 396 00:25:06,770 --> 00:25:10,050 Not that pomposity could interfere with your judgment. 397 00:25:12,770 --> 00:25:13,950 I want to see the gun. 398 00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:17,350 What? We're allowed to review the evidence, right? 399 00:25:19,330 --> 00:25:20,490 I want to see the gun. 400 00:25:23,250 --> 00:25:25,890 It really is a machine of death. 401 00:25:26,290 --> 00:25:27,290 Of course it is. 402 00:25:27,690 --> 00:25:28,690 Let's let Mr. 403 00:25:28,790 --> 00:25:29,790 Kramer feel it. 404 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:30,699 Come on. 405 00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:32,020 Come on. Come on, take it. 406 00:25:33,420 --> 00:25:37,200 Feels different than a geography map, doesn't it? That's what that kid used to 407 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,520 extinguish two human beings. 408 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,420 So, what, we're supposed to equate the ferocity of the weapon with the 409 00:25:43,420 --> 00:25:44,580 monstrosity of the boy? 410 00:25:45,620 --> 00:25:47,520 Isn't this game a little advanced for a mailman? 411 00:25:47,980 --> 00:25:49,340 You know something, Mr. Kramer? 412 00:25:49,820 --> 00:25:51,760 I'm getting a little annoyed at your attitude. 413 00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:54,800 You want to sympathize with a defendant, fine. 414 00:25:55,380 --> 00:25:58,480 But what about those kids we killed? They were in their 20s, those policemen. 415 00:25:59,659 --> 00:26:00,659 With families. 416 00:26:01,620 --> 00:26:03,740 Funny your compassion doesn't extend to them. 417 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,720 I sympathize with them and their family, Sheriff. 418 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,740 But I'm not vested with their lives right now, only David Robinson's. 419 00:26:10,980 --> 00:26:14,140 I have to recognize that he may have had a legitimate fear for his life when he 420 00:26:14,140 --> 00:26:15,140 pulled the trigger. 421 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,740 Why can't we consider murder two? Or manslaughter? 422 00:26:18,940 --> 00:26:20,300 The charge was murder one. 423 00:26:22,180 --> 00:26:24,340 There are no other options to consider. 424 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,240 But that is just not fair. 425 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,680 I mean, it seems like to me... 426 00:26:29,580 --> 00:26:31,520 It was heat of passion the way it went down. 427 00:26:32,660 --> 00:26:33,680 Why do you say that? 428 00:26:35,420 --> 00:26:39,400 Well, it wasn't premeditated. 429 00:26:39,620 --> 00:26:43,420 I mean, this guy's just watching television and then, bam, his door goes 430 00:26:44,260 --> 00:26:46,700 That seems like heat of passion to me, doesn't it? 431 00:26:47,060 --> 00:26:51,640 Heat of passion suggests anger or rage. Is that what you think he was feeling, 432 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,320 rage? No, not rage. Then what? 433 00:27:00,810 --> 00:27:01,930 Fear? Yeah. 434 00:27:04,190 --> 00:27:05,190 Fear. 435 00:27:10,090 --> 00:27:11,250 I'm changing my vote. 436 00:27:12,210 --> 00:27:14,950 Hold it just a second. 437 00:27:16,270 --> 00:27:18,410 Consider what you're suggesting here. 438 00:27:18,810 --> 00:27:20,290 The police did nothing wrong. 439 00:27:21,239 --> 00:27:24,520 Pursuant to a valid warrant, they entered the premises of a convicted drug 440 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:29,300 dealer, whereupon they were promptly shot dead by that drug dealer. Now, do 441 00:27:29,300 --> 00:27:32,140 really, really mean to say this kid was justified? 442 00:27:32,660 --> 00:27:35,560 Well, I'm... He didn't know they were police. 443 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,920 I mean, maybe they don't have the right to come in and bash down his door on an 444 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,020 out. Yes, they did have the right. They had a no -knock warrant. They had every 445 00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:44,580 right to do that. Their actions were valid. 446 00:27:44,820 --> 00:27:47,600 The defendant didn't know anything about warrants. 447 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,200 All he knew was that somebody was crashing through his door. You're 448 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,660 him for being a drug dealer. 449 00:27:52,940 --> 00:27:57,000 Don't talk to me like that. Don't you see what you're doing? Because he sold 450 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,920 drugs and cheated people, he put himself in a high -risk position. And because 451 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,860 he was in a high -risk position, you are licensing him to become afraid and 452 00:28:04,860 --> 00:28:08,440 therefore shoot policemen. It's ludicrous. I go back to the judge's 453 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,320 If he was afraid, it's self -defense. 454 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,780 Period. No, reasonably afraid is what he said. He was reasonably afraid. He was 455 00:28:16,780 --> 00:28:17,780 shot at all. 456 00:28:17,860 --> 00:28:18,900 Everybody quiet. 457 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,720 We're deadlocked. 458 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:31,980 How deadlocked? 459 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,240 Sick and sick. 460 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,140 It seems rather hopeless. 461 00:28:36,460 --> 00:28:38,360 But you've only been deliberating for two days. 462 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,160 Nobody will budge, Your Honor. 463 00:28:54,890 --> 00:28:59,510 The fact that you're coming back in here waving a white flag so fast is an 464 00:28:59,510 --> 00:29:02,830 indication to me that you don't take your responsibility seriously enough. 465 00:29:05,470 --> 00:29:06,810 Well, understand this. 466 00:29:08,450 --> 00:29:10,890 I'm not declaring this a mistrial. 467 00:29:11,530 --> 00:29:17,510 You will spend ten hours a day for two weeks straight before I'll even 468 00:29:17,510 --> 00:29:19,590 the notion of a hung jury. 469 00:29:20,450 --> 00:29:23,470 And if I get the slightest sign that anybody... 470 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,540 is not concentrating back in that room, I'll hold you in contempt. 471 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,340 You're also sequestered. As of right now. 472 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,200 Forget about seeing your families. 473 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,020 You think this is a joke? 474 00:29:38,780 --> 00:29:39,900 We had the trial. 475 00:29:40,460 --> 00:29:41,820 We gave you the evidence. 476 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,400 Everybody did his job. 477 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,720 You get back in that room and do yours. 478 00:29:53,870 --> 00:29:54,870 Get up. 479 00:30:08,130 --> 00:30:10,890 Jimmy, you have to keep running that back and forth like that. 480 00:30:12,010 --> 00:30:13,330 Yeah, I do. Look. 481 00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:16,190 Right there. See? 482 00:30:16,730 --> 00:30:19,710 He picks up the Uzi before the door comes down. 483 00:30:20,750 --> 00:30:24,290 Before he knows it's the police. It was covered back. He didn't know at first 484 00:30:24,290 --> 00:30:26,730 who it was. But he knew it was the police before he shot. 485 00:30:27,190 --> 00:30:29,550 Can't you admit that, or are you just too damn stubborn? 486 00:30:29,890 --> 00:30:33,930 You know, you're not a helpful person. Every time you speak, you're putting 487 00:30:33,930 --> 00:30:34,930 somebody down. 488 00:30:35,310 --> 00:30:36,630 Now, keep that in mind. 489 00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:38,150 Go puke in the corner. 490 00:30:39,210 --> 00:30:44,310 I am really getting fed up with you. Oh, you're fed up? I'm fed up. I'm sick of 491 00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:49,010 all of you. How can you sit there and watch this tape and forgive what this 492 00:30:49,010 --> 00:30:51,990 did? You don't know him. Who does know him, huh? 493 00:30:52,410 --> 00:30:54,090 Did he put up any character witnesses? 494 00:30:54,370 --> 00:30:57,250 Did we hear from anyone who knew the son of a bitch? No. 495 00:30:57,770 --> 00:31:04,350 We didn't get to listen to one person who even met him, besides paid experts. 496 00:31:04,870 --> 00:31:08,530 Nobody stood up for the psychotic except for the fools in this room. 497 00:31:08,730 --> 00:31:12,310 Mr. Wambaugh knew him, and he chooses to represent him. Wambaugh's a shyster. 498 00:31:12,670 --> 00:31:13,910 He'd represent anybody. 499 00:31:14,170 --> 00:31:16,150 We all know how they are. Who? 500 00:31:19,050 --> 00:31:20,050 How who are? 501 00:31:22,030 --> 00:31:23,030 Lawyers. 502 00:31:24,770 --> 00:31:29,870 You feel the same way about blacks that you do about Jews? No, no, no. This is 503 00:31:29,870 --> 00:31:30,870 not a black thing. 504 00:31:31,230 --> 00:31:32,910 This is not about prejudice. 505 00:31:33,430 --> 00:31:39,170 No. These two cops were killed by that kid. I'm doing my job as a juror, 506 00:31:39,410 --> 00:31:41,350 None of us are doing our job here. 507 00:31:43,130 --> 00:31:44,230 Well, look at us. 508 00:31:45,510 --> 00:31:47,670 We're supposed to be impartial. 509 00:31:48,260 --> 00:31:49,560 We've become advocates. 510 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,140 You, you're trying to beat him. 511 00:31:55,260 --> 00:31:58,480 And you, you're trying to stick it to him. 512 00:32:01,580 --> 00:32:07,420 It's more about winning and losing for us in this room than it is for the 513 00:32:07,420 --> 00:32:08,420 attorneys. 514 00:32:09,060 --> 00:32:11,240 This is a stupid, stupid process. 515 00:32:12,580 --> 00:32:16,020 What's going on in this room has nothing to do with the pursuit of truth. 516 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,040 The truth is on the tape. 517 00:32:18,340 --> 00:32:21,280 It's on the tape. The truth is in that boy's head. 518 00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:27,360 Look, I know he's probably evil, but I still say he had to be afraid. 519 00:32:28,420 --> 00:32:29,440 Mrs. Bales. 520 00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:36,220 I've been a law officer for a long, long time. 521 00:32:38,220 --> 00:32:44,120 People who are afraid cower. They flee. They flinch. This man reacted with 522 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,120 extreme aggression. 523 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,960 Exactly. Good point. 524 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,920 May I ask you a question, sir? Don't policemen get afraid? 525 00:32:50,660 --> 00:32:51,660 Of course they do. 526 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,380 If you encounter somebody who suddenly pulls a gun on you, don't you open fire? 527 00:32:55,940 --> 00:32:56,940 That's different. 528 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,660 If someone points a gun at you, you shoot. 529 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,120 I have to. Why? 530 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,520 If I don't, I'm dead. 531 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,440 Do you think that drug dealers know this? That you'll shoot if they point a 532 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,440 at you? 533 00:33:09,060 --> 00:33:10,940 This man had an Uzi pointed at the door. 534 00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:13,840 Suddenly that door came down and that Uzi was pointed at police. 535 00:33:14,620 --> 00:33:18,740 With an Uzi pointed at two armed policemen. Was it not reasonable for 536 00:33:18,740 --> 00:33:20,060 to think that they would shoot? 537 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,220 Listen, I'm keeping my mouth shut here and minding my own business. 538 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,780 There's not a person in this room who doesn't appreciate the enormity of that 539 00:33:30,780 --> 00:33:31,780 feat. Okay, that's it. 540 00:33:32,140 --> 00:33:34,540 This is ridiculous. 541 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,340 Hold it. Come on. 542 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:37,680 Everybody take a breath. 543 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,820 Let's consider for a second. 544 00:33:43,790 --> 00:33:45,670 What our role is in here? 545 00:33:46,790 --> 00:33:48,550 It's to serve society, right? 546 00:33:51,150 --> 00:33:52,530 Good. Great. 547 00:33:53,130 --> 00:34:00,030 Well, if we all agree that we should give society the benefit of the doubt, 548 00:34:00,030 --> 00:34:01,570 can we put this kid back on the street? 549 00:34:02,690 --> 00:34:06,110 Maybe it's not his fault for having the psychological problems that he has. 550 00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:08,670 He nevertheless is a killer. 551 00:34:10,030 --> 00:34:13,889 Ms. Bales, I think you even admitted the boy is probably evil. 552 00:34:14,170 --> 00:34:17,590 But I still think he could have acted in self -defense. 553 00:34:17,989 --> 00:34:18,989 Okay. 554 00:34:19,290 --> 00:34:20,290 Even if he did. 555 00:34:20,870 --> 00:34:23,030 In fact, let's assume that he did. 556 00:34:23,409 --> 00:34:26,010 Is society better off by an acquittal? 557 00:34:26,909 --> 00:34:30,090 The man sells cocaine and heroin. 558 00:34:30,489 --> 00:34:32,909 And is probably responsible for killing kids. 559 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,679 He has an arsenal of weapons in his apartment ready to shoot anybody who 560 00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:44,639 in the door too quickly. If we set him free, we know, we know he 561 00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:46,060 will kill again. 562 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,280 Is there anybody here who seriously doubts that? 563 00:34:57,180 --> 00:34:59,640 Well, when he does... 564 00:35:02,670 --> 00:35:03,670 How do we go on? 565 00:35:05,390 --> 00:35:09,170 How do we look our children in the eye and say, yeah, we're the ones who put 566 00:35:09,170 --> 00:35:10,170 back out there? 567 00:35:12,370 --> 00:35:16,230 How do we look into the eyes of the families of his next victims? 568 00:35:19,630 --> 00:35:26,510 David Robinson is a hardened drug -dealing criminal who kills, then kicks 569 00:35:26,510 --> 00:35:27,690 body to make sure it's dead. 570 00:35:29,230 --> 00:35:31,170 I didn't see remorse on that tape. 571 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:33,560 I didn't see shock. 572 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,020 I saw a kid who killed easily. 573 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,320 Who could kill again. 574 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,560 Is that what you saw, Mr. Kramer? 575 00:35:52,660 --> 00:35:53,660 Mr. Cranepool? 576 00:36:07,150 --> 00:36:14,090 If we're that forgiving a community, God, David Robinson may 577 00:36:14,090 --> 00:36:15,110 want to come here to live. 578 00:36:17,030 --> 00:36:18,030 We want that? 579 00:36:29,290 --> 00:36:30,890 Maybe we should take another vote. 580 00:36:48,460 --> 00:36:50,660 I just need a second till they go away. Fine. 581 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:56,800 What? 582 00:36:57,720 --> 00:37:00,260 I'm not supposed to prosecute this because I'm black, is that it? 583 00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:02,440 You can prosecute whomever you want. 584 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,960 A black jury would convict him in ten minutes. 585 00:37:08,020 --> 00:37:11,420 Well, then we should all be grateful the system is white because it is the white 586 00:37:11,420 --> 00:37:14,920 society that holds out black opportunity, isn't it? I don't have to 587 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:15,920 that. 588 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:19,880 You pervert the system. 589 00:37:20,460 --> 00:37:23,100 Using every opportunity to make this thing about race. 590 00:37:23,540 --> 00:37:28,660 Every trick to exploit the fact. White cops, black suspect. It will be about 591 00:37:28,660 --> 00:37:33,160 race. That's not the issue this time. You pick your issues, counsel, and I'll 592 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,160 pick mine. 593 00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:36,080 It is an adversary process. 594 00:37:37,060 --> 00:37:38,280 It's supposed to work. 595 00:37:44,660 --> 00:37:45,660 Guilty. 596 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:47,520 Guilty. 597 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:49,440 Guilty. 598 00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:51,500 Guilty? 599 00:37:54,380 --> 00:37:55,380 Guilty. 600 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:57,840 Please. 601 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,400 I've got kids playing on these streets. 602 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,660 I still think he was afraid. 603 00:38:06,060 --> 00:38:09,040 But I also think he probably would kill again. 604 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,660 I'm changing my vote. 605 00:38:15,260 --> 00:38:16,260 Guilty. 606 00:38:18,190 --> 00:38:19,950 You're the only one, Mrs. Cranepool. 607 00:38:21,770 --> 00:38:22,770 The only one? 608 00:38:28,610 --> 00:38:30,330 Okay. All right! 609 00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:32,510 Get the hell out of here! Hold it. 610 00:38:34,030 --> 00:38:35,230 I haven't voted yet. 611 00:38:40,430 --> 00:38:41,430 Not guilty. 612 00:38:42,070 --> 00:38:43,070 What'd you say? 613 00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:44,270 You heard me. 614 00:38:45,110 --> 00:38:46,110 Sheriff Brock. 615 00:38:47,180 --> 00:38:48,340 I don't think he's innocent. 616 00:38:49,580 --> 00:38:54,500 But if we're going to send a kid away for life, we have to do it because we 617 00:38:54,500 --> 00:38:56,480 convinced he's guilty. 618 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,220 Oh, come on, Jimmy. We are. 619 00:38:58,420 --> 00:39:00,360 Take a look at the vote. No. 620 00:39:00,740 --> 00:39:02,760 You voted that way because of Mr. 621 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,200 Moriarity's speech. 622 00:39:05,780 --> 00:39:08,700 You voted to convict because you're afraid he'll kill again. 623 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,160 As am I. 624 00:39:13,460 --> 00:39:16,800 But we can only convict for what he did, not... 625 00:39:17,130 --> 00:39:21,490 Because of what he might do, not because of what we know he will do. 626 00:39:24,970 --> 00:39:31,890 If we think he acted out of self -defense, we have to acquit. Even 627 00:39:31,890 --> 00:39:34,490 if we are positive he'll kill again when he gets out. 628 00:39:35,630 --> 00:39:39,230 Really? Come on, Jimmy, you don't believe this is self -defense. Not for a 629 00:39:39,230 --> 00:39:40,230 second. 630 00:39:43,390 --> 00:39:44,650 The Uzi's in his hand. 631 00:39:45,770 --> 00:39:47,730 when the two policemen come through the door. 632 00:39:49,290 --> 00:39:52,550 Now, in a situation like this, the police have to shoot. No discretion. 633 00:39:54,370 --> 00:39:58,390 A suspect has an automatic weapon in his hand. You shoot, no question. 634 00:39:59,290 --> 00:40:04,990 If David Robinson is looking at those officers and he's thinking, I'm a dead 635 00:40:04,990 --> 00:40:10,490 man, he is 100 % right. If he didn't shoot, he'd be dead. 636 00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:14,570 So how can this not be self -defense? 637 00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:18,100 We can't. 638 00:40:18,780 --> 00:40:20,680 We can't just turn this kid free. 639 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:22,920 Well, maybe we don't. 640 00:40:26,020 --> 00:40:27,680 But Mr. Kramer is right. 641 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,780 The kid had to be afraid. 642 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,440 So the only question here is, do we lock him up just the same? 643 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,160 Because Mr. Moriarty is right, too. 644 00:40:39,540 --> 00:40:42,000 The kid will kill again. 645 00:41:35,470 --> 00:41:36,850 Will the defendant please rise? 646 00:41:42,570 --> 00:41:44,590 Mr. Foreman, has the jury reached a verdict? 647 00:41:47,450 --> 00:41:48,450 We have, Your Honor. 648 00:41:49,410 --> 00:41:50,410 What say you? 649 00:41:53,350 --> 00:41:57,570 On the charge of murder in the first degree, we, the jury, find the 650 00:41:57,690 --> 00:42:01,890 David Robinson, not guilty. 651 00:42:09,900 --> 00:42:12,700 Members of the jury, thank you for your time. 652 00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:14,960 The defendant is free to go. 653 00:42:15,460 --> 00:42:16,880 This matter is adjourned. 50799

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