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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,368 --> 00:00:03,462 Please leave a message after the tone. 2 00:00:04,538 --> 00:00:07,064 Jack? It's Brian. 3 00:00:07,140 --> 00:00:09,871 Just haven't heard from you for awhile... 4 00:00:09,943 --> 00:00:12,378 Well, since, uh... 5 00:00:12,446 --> 00:00:15,006 Look, give me a call when you get a chance. 6 00:00:15,082 --> 00:00:16,550 Hi, Jack. It's Sandra. 7 00:00:16,617 --> 00:00:17,710 Call me. 8 00:00:17,784 --> 00:00:19,946 You all right, mate? It's Gerry. 9 00:00:20,020 --> 00:00:23,616 Look, I wondered if you fancied a pint sometime this week. 10 00:00:23,690 --> 00:00:25,386 Uh, well, give us a shout if you do, eh? 11 00:00:25,459 --> 00:00:27,223 Okay, Jack. I know you're upset. 12 00:00:27,294 --> 00:00:28,227 I get that. 13 00:00:28,295 --> 00:00:31,265 But would it kill you to let us know you're all right? 14 00:00:31,331 --> 00:00:34,768 Jack, where are you? 15 00:00:34,835 --> 00:00:37,134 ♪ It's all right, it's okay ♪ 16 00:00:37,204 --> 00:00:40,003 ♪ Doesn't really matter if you're old and gray ♪ 17 00:00:40,073 --> 00:00:42,838 ♪ It's all right, I say it's okay ♪ 18 00:00:42,910 --> 00:00:45,470 ♪ Listen to what I say ♪ 19 00:00:45,546 --> 00:00:48,482 ♪ It's all right, doing fine ♪ 20 00:00:48,549 --> 00:00:51,246 ♪ Doesn't really matter if the sun don't shine ♪ 21 00:00:51,318 --> 00:00:53,913 ♪ It's all right, I say it's okay ♪ 22 00:00:53,987 --> 00:00:55,507 ♪ We're getting to the end of the day ♪ 23 00:00:55,556 --> 00:00:58,754 Subtitling made possible by Acorn Media 24 00:01:00,227 --> 00:01:03,629 It's just one of his long, dark teatimes of the soul. 25 00:01:03,697 --> 00:01:05,563 - He'll be back. - Brian, I don't think... 26 00:01:05,632 --> 00:01:08,534 I expect he'll walk through that door any minute. 27 00:01:09,436 --> 00:01:10,747 I'll see you there in 10 minutes. 28 00:01:10,771 --> 00:01:12,069 Okay, fine. 29 00:01:12,139 --> 00:01:14,665 Would have been bloody impressive, though, wouldn't it? 30 00:01:15,709 --> 00:01:16,938 - Morning. - Morning. 31 00:01:17,010 --> 00:01:19,775 I think you'll like this case. Should get the juices flowing. 32 00:01:19,846 --> 00:01:22,907 Um, on September 30, 1998, 33 00:01:22,983 --> 00:01:27,819 the studios of Roxy Radio in, uh, Barnet burned to the ground. 34 00:01:27,888 --> 00:01:29,379 The local radio station 35 00:01:29,456 --> 00:01:32,221 was part of Sir Max Wyatt's media empire. 36 00:01:32,292 --> 00:01:34,056 As you'll know, he was the subject 37 00:01:34,127 --> 00:01:36,062 of some scrutiny in the late '90s. 38 00:01:36,129 --> 00:01:39,531 Yeah, well, he was ripping off his employees' pensions. 39 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,592 As soon as he got a whisper of the investigation, 40 00:01:41,668 --> 00:01:43,159 he topped himself in his Roller. 41 00:01:43,236 --> 00:01:44,761 No, actually, it was a Bentley. 42 00:01:44,838 --> 00:01:47,034 S3 Continental. Fantastic machines. 43 00:01:47,107 --> 00:01:50,566 Guys, I don't think the D.A.C. had quite finished. 44 00:01:50,644 --> 00:01:52,670 Oh, sorry. Heh. 45 00:01:52,746 --> 00:01:53,957 The fire was originally thought 46 00:01:53,981 --> 00:01:56,007 to have been an insurance job ordered by Wyatt. 47 00:01:56,083 --> 00:01:58,109 However, the murder squad were involved 48 00:01:58,185 --> 00:02:01,178 because there was a death in the fire, but they drew a blank. 49 00:02:01,254 --> 00:02:02,984 And it seems the fire cannot be linked 50 00:02:03,056 --> 00:02:05,651 to either the pension fund or any other of Wyatt's dealings, 51 00:02:05,726 --> 00:02:08,025 so it's a fresh case. 52 00:02:08,095 --> 00:02:09,961 Lots of challenges. 53 00:02:10,964 --> 00:02:11,988 What do you think? 54 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,094 Yeah, it, uh, sounds interesting. 55 00:02:15,168 --> 00:02:18,138 As I said, the fire did result in a death. 56 00:02:18,205 --> 00:02:20,299 That of Johnny Deacon. 57 00:02:20,374 --> 00:02:23,037 He was the deejay on air at the time. 58 00:02:23,110 --> 00:02:25,773 Hey! Johnny "Decks" Deacon. 59 00:02:25,846 --> 00:02:27,280 Yeah, I remember him. From Radio 1. 60 00:02:27,347 --> 00:02:29,009 He was a cheeky chappy type, you know? 61 00:02:29,082 --> 00:02:30,516 Had quite a following at the time. 62 00:02:30,584 --> 00:02:32,746 Yeah, well, apparently he still does. 63 00:02:32,819 --> 00:02:34,754 Mr. Kirkham, would you like to come in? 64 00:02:36,556 --> 00:02:37,922 This is Jeremy Kirkham. 65 00:02:37,991 --> 00:02:39,769 He's the president of the Johnny Deacon fan club. 66 00:02:39,793 --> 00:02:41,591 Life president, actually. 67 00:02:41,662 --> 00:02:43,858 One of the club's recent activities 68 00:02:43,930 --> 00:02:47,162 was to launch a fairly intensive campaign 69 00:02:47,234 --> 00:02:49,965 demanding Mr. Deacon's killer be brought to justice. 70 00:02:50,037 --> 00:02:52,438 Now, I'm not quite sure how Mr. Kirkham 71 00:02:52,506 --> 00:02:55,408 managed to get hold of the home telephone number 72 00:02:55,475 --> 00:02:56,807 of the commissioner, 73 00:02:56,877 --> 00:02:59,176 but now that he's brought this to our attention, 74 00:02:59,246 --> 00:03:00,509 we'd like to clear things up. 75 00:03:00,580 --> 00:03:01,580 Quickly. 76 00:03:01,648 --> 00:03:03,048 In the meantime, Mr. Kirkham 77 00:03:03,116 --> 00:03:04,927 would like to take this opportunity to tell you 78 00:03:04,951 --> 00:03:06,783 quite what Johnny Deacon meant to him. 79 00:03:06,853 --> 00:03:08,321 And the nation. 80 00:03:08,388 --> 00:03:09,913 Yes, yes. Quite. 81 00:03:09,990 --> 00:03:11,515 Anyway, off you go. 82 00:03:11,591 --> 00:03:14,857 - Oh, I need to set up first. - Set what up? 83 00:03:14,928 --> 00:03:18,421 My speaker system, my projector. 84 00:03:18,498 --> 00:03:20,524 Johnny was a consummate broadcaster. 85 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,195 He deserves to be heard in digital-quality stereo. 86 00:03:23,270 --> 00:03:26,138 - Is over here all right? - No! That's Jack's desk. 87 00:03:27,174 --> 00:03:29,166 - Here. Come with me. - Oh. 88 00:03:30,610 --> 00:03:32,078 Just get this all... 89 00:03:32,145 --> 00:03:34,546 Turn right. 90 00:03:34,614 --> 00:03:37,607 - Could you and I have a word? - Yes, certainly. 91 00:03:45,292 --> 00:03:46,988 Personnel files? 92 00:03:47,060 --> 00:03:48,926 They're potential replacements for Jack. 93 00:03:48,995 --> 00:03:51,794 UCOS has budget for three positions besides your own. 94 00:03:51,865 --> 00:03:53,595 - Yeah, and they're all filled. - Sandra... 95 00:03:53,667 --> 00:03:56,569 - Jack's on leave of absence. - We both know that's a lie. 96 00:03:56,636 --> 00:03:58,104 And the longer you perpetuate it, 97 00:03:58,171 --> 00:03:59,969 the worse team morale is going to be. 98 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,475 Well, giving away Jack's job is hardly gonna help, is it? 99 00:04:02,542 --> 00:04:03,601 Well, I disagree. 100 00:04:03,677 --> 00:04:06,146 I think it'll signify that you've moved on. 101 00:04:06,213 --> 00:04:08,739 Look, take a few days to look through the candidates. 102 00:04:08,815 --> 00:04:10,909 Maybe by then Jack will have got in contact. 103 00:04:10,984 --> 00:04:13,783 But if we haven't heard anything within a week, 104 00:04:13,854 --> 00:04:16,847 I expect to be sitting in on some interviews. 105 00:04:16,923 --> 00:04:18,016 Sir. 106 00:04:18,091 --> 00:04:20,526 The geek squad is ready for us. 107 00:04:21,528 --> 00:04:22,928 Come in and shut the door. 108 00:04:25,966 --> 00:04:28,902 Strickland wants me to find a replacement for Jack. 109 00:04:28,969 --> 00:04:30,369 Oh. 110 00:04:31,471 --> 00:04:34,339 - Still, if he's not coming back. - We don't know that. 111 00:04:34,407 --> 00:04:37,002 He... He just needs time. 112 00:04:37,077 --> 00:04:40,070 He's gonna need more than time to get over seeing Hanson walk. 113 00:04:40,147 --> 00:04:41,342 Yeah, I know. 114 00:04:43,250 --> 00:04:45,242 You got to see this. 115 00:04:45,318 --> 00:04:47,913 Johnny Deacon was a born broadcaster. 116 00:04:47,988 --> 00:04:50,184 An only child, his only joy was found 117 00:04:50,257 --> 00:04:51,953 in the sounds of the World Service. 118 00:04:52,025 --> 00:04:53,789 When his parents died in a car crash, 119 00:04:53,860 --> 00:04:56,455 Johnny took a slot on hospital radio. 120 00:04:56,530 --> 00:04:57,896 It was the birth of a legend. 121 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,196 In his future would be a golden era at Radio 1 122 00:05:02,269 --> 00:05:03,737 where he would stand with the greats. 123 00:05:03,804 --> 00:05:06,239 Oh, yeah. Poor old John Peel. Look. 124 00:05:06,306 --> 00:05:08,775 Is that Noel Edmonds? 125 00:05:09,810 --> 00:05:12,405 Look at that! Dave Lee Travis. 126 00:05:13,213 --> 00:05:14,681 His extensive charity work. 127 00:05:14,748 --> 00:05:16,774 And of course in his final days 128 00:05:16,850 --> 00:05:19,843 as the U.K.'s hardest hitting talk-radio star at Roxy Radio, 129 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,252 where he would court controversy 130 00:05:21,321 --> 00:05:23,722 and rattle the cages of the powers that be. 131 00:05:23,790 --> 00:05:27,090 Of course it was here that he met his untimely end. 132 00:05:29,529 --> 00:05:31,361 Well, um, that's the bit 133 00:05:31,431 --> 00:05:33,696 that we're sort of interested in, really. 134 00:05:33,767 --> 00:05:36,396 Yes, and I actually have a recording 135 00:05:36,469 --> 00:05:38,836 of Johnny's final moments. 136 00:05:38,905 --> 00:05:40,999 You've got a tape of him dying? 137 00:05:41,074 --> 00:05:43,270 Well, yes. Johnny was a consummate professional. 138 00:05:43,343 --> 00:05:45,972 He, uh... He carried on recording right until the end. 139 00:05:46,046 --> 00:05:47,947 But that was sort of my finale. 140 00:05:48,014 --> 00:05:50,040 Can we wind to that, please? 141 00:05:51,718 --> 00:05:52,718 Yeah. 142 00:05:57,958 --> 00:05:59,483 Now, it's a year this week 143 00:05:59,559 --> 00:06:02,051 since Diana, Princess of Wales, died. 144 00:06:02,128 --> 00:06:03,653 What are your thoughts 12 months on 145 00:06:03,730 --> 00:06:05,824 from those extraordinary scenes of mourning? 146 00:06:05,899 --> 00:06:08,027 Did we all overreact? 147 00:06:08,101 --> 00:06:10,400 Did the death of a divorced adulteress 148 00:06:10,470 --> 00:06:12,405 warrant the outpouring of grief? 149 00:06:12,472 --> 00:06:14,941 That was Johnny. Uncompromising. 150 00:06:15,008 --> 00:06:16,601 I want to know what you think. 151 00:06:16,676 --> 00:06:18,144 Graham is waiting for your call. 152 00:06:18,211 --> 00:06:20,737 Graham Madeley, his producer. They'd been together for years. 153 00:06:20,814 --> 00:06:23,045 Okay, first on the line is Helen. 154 00:06:23,116 --> 00:06:24,846 This is it. 155 00:06:24,918 --> 00:06:26,784 Okay, that's the fire alarm. Sorry about that. 156 00:06:26,853 --> 00:06:28,378 Uh, it does indeed... 157 00:06:28,455 --> 00:06:30,822 I think we've, um... Have we... 158 00:06:30,891 --> 00:06:33,520 No, no, there's... No, the studio is on fire. 159 00:06:33,593 --> 00:06:35,653 But I'm not sure yet... 160 00:06:35,729 --> 00:06:38,096 Wow, it really is on fire. 161 00:06:38,164 --> 00:06:39,325 Graham? 162 00:06:39,399 --> 00:06:41,265 Mate? What's going on? 163 00:06:41,334 --> 00:06:42,825 Graham? 164 00:06:42,903 --> 00:06:44,166 Oh, shit. 165 00:06:46,907 --> 00:06:49,274 Graham! Graham, I can't get out! 166 00:06:49,342 --> 00:06:51,607 Graham! Anyone?! 167 00:06:53,313 --> 00:06:55,179 For God's sake, help me! 168 00:06:56,516 --> 00:06:58,849 And, uh... 169 00:06:58,919 --> 00:07:01,252 that's where the emergency broadcasting system cuts in. 170 00:07:01,321 --> 00:07:02,516 Plays random music 171 00:07:02,589 --> 00:07:05,423 if ever there's a sudden break in transmission. 172 00:07:06,593 --> 00:07:08,353 Unfortunately that evening the record cued up 173 00:07:08,395 --> 00:07:10,387 was "Smoke Gets in Your Eyes" by the Platters. 174 00:07:13,900 --> 00:07:16,460 Have you got a copy of the recording, Jeremy? 175 00:07:16,536 --> 00:07:19,768 Yes. Yeah. I maintain the full Johnny Deacon library. 176 00:07:19,839 --> 00:07:22,604 Recordings dating right back to his hospital-radio days. 177 00:07:22,676 --> 00:07:25,168 - I can offer you full access... - Thank you very much. 178 00:07:25,245 --> 00:07:26,685 I don't think that will be necessary. 179 00:07:26,746 --> 00:07:29,648 But, Brian, could you... Could you him pack up, please? 180 00:07:30,517 --> 00:07:33,851 The original murder squad looked into forensics and motive 181 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,617 and took statements from the two survivors... 182 00:07:36,690 --> 00:07:40,127 Graham Madeley, the producer; and Sharon Revie, the cleaner. 183 00:07:40,193 --> 00:07:41,855 Although she was quite badly burned. 184 00:07:41,928 --> 00:07:44,955 - How badly? - She was blinded. 185 00:07:45,031 --> 00:07:47,933 Oh. You'd have thought Jeremy might have mentioned that. 186 00:07:48,001 --> 00:07:50,436 - Here we go. - Cheers. 187 00:07:51,271 --> 00:07:53,763 There was no CCTV, 188 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,605 but they had key codes on the front door and the studio door. 189 00:07:56,676 --> 00:07:58,254 And they think that's what killed Johnny. 190 00:07:58,278 --> 00:07:59,041 How? 191 00:07:59,112 --> 00:08:00,842 The fire damaged the entire system. 192 00:08:00,914 --> 00:08:02,212 He couldn't unlock the door. 193 00:08:02,282 --> 00:08:05,684 The fire investigation concluded that an incendiary device 194 00:08:05,752 --> 00:08:08,813 had been placed in a storage cupboard near the studio. 195 00:08:08,888 --> 00:08:10,652 It was a simple device. 196 00:08:10,724 --> 00:08:13,558 Easy to build if you had a bit of know-how. 197 00:08:13,626 --> 00:08:16,687 The only specialist bit of kit was the slow fuse. 198 00:08:16,763 --> 00:08:18,732 So, what was the motive? Insurance job? 199 00:08:18,798 --> 00:08:21,927 Well, arson's usually a crime of impotent rage. 200 00:08:22,002 --> 00:08:24,437 Huh, so the arsonist was really angry 201 00:08:24,504 --> 00:08:26,200 'cause he couldn't get it up? 202 00:08:26,272 --> 00:08:28,503 Question is, who was the target of that rage... 203 00:08:28,575 --> 00:08:30,703 Johnny Deacon or Roxy Radio? 204 00:08:30,777 --> 00:08:32,837 Or the Wyatt Corporation. 205 00:08:32,912 --> 00:08:35,211 When it turned out that the pension fund had gone, 206 00:08:35,281 --> 00:08:38,740 they made 5,000 redundant to try and cut costs. 207 00:08:38,818 --> 00:08:41,310 Well, after Max Wyatt pissed away their pensions 208 00:08:41,388 --> 00:08:43,448 maybe they were entitled to a bit of impotent rage. 209 00:08:43,523 --> 00:08:45,355 And we've got 5,000 suspects. 210 00:08:45,425 --> 00:08:47,621 Yeah, I bet the Wyatt's did have 211 00:08:47,694 --> 00:08:49,185 some specific threats, though. 212 00:08:49,262 --> 00:08:51,891 They just weren't exactly on speaking terms 213 00:08:51,965 --> 00:08:53,627 with us at the time. 214 00:08:55,468 --> 00:08:57,164 I don't know about this, Jerry. 215 00:08:57,237 --> 00:08:59,934 Look, all I want to know is if he's made any phone calls 216 00:09:00,006 --> 00:09:02,373 in the last two weeks and who to. 217 00:09:03,910 --> 00:09:06,971 - All right. - Thanks, mate. I owe you one. 218 00:09:07,047 --> 00:09:09,881 I just need any credit- or debit-card transactions 219 00:09:09,949 --> 00:09:11,713 from the last few days. 220 00:09:11,785 --> 00:09:13,117 What? 221 00:09:13,186 --> 00:09:17,180 Yes, of course. I have full authorization. 222 00:09:17,257 --> 00:09:19,226 Who? 223 00:09:19,292 --> 00:09:21,784 D.A.C. Strickland, of course. 224 00:09:23,029 --> 00:09:24,759 I've tried calling him. I've tried. 225 00:09:24,964 --> 00:09:26,489 But all I get is the answering machine. 226 00:09:26,566 --> 00:09:28,467 Yeah, me too. 227 00:09:32,205 --> 00:09:34,106 You don't think he wants to come back, do you? 228 00:09:34,174 --> 00:09:35,267 Even if he does, 229 00:09:35,341 --> 00:09:37,461 Strickland's not gonna lay out the red carpet for him. 230 00:09:37,510 --> 00:09:40,742 He walked off the job. He left us in the lurch, Gerry. 231 00:09:40,814 --> 00:09:42,715 Yeah, I know, but he's... 232 00:09:42,782 --> 00:09:44,944 Yeah. He's Jack. 233 00:09:46,586 --> 00:09:47,713 Nice. 234 00:09:48,655 --> 00:09:49,679 What? 235 00:09:49,756 --> 00:09:51,554 - Cameron Wyatt? - Yes. 236 00:09:51,624 --> 00:09:53,957 Detective Superintendent Pullman, Gerry Standing, UCOS. 237 00:09:54,027 --> 00:09:55,120 We'd like a word please. 238 00:09:59,299 --> 00:10:01,393 Oh. You getting ready to move? 239 00:10:01,468 --> 00:10:03,733 No, I'm getting ready to be evicted. 240 00:10:03,803 --> 00:10:06,102 The house is the last thing to go next week. 241 00:10:06,172 --> 00:10:08,038 So you're servicing your father's debts? 242 00:10:08,108 --> 00:10:09,599 Well, it's not as if the old bastard 243 00:10:09,676 --> 00:10:11,804 hung around long enough to do it himself. 244 00:10:13,780 --> 00:10:16,579 So how can I help you? 245 00:10:16,649 --> 00:10:18,117 The fire at Roxy Radio. 246 00:10:18,184 --> 00:10:20,813 You mean the one thing you can't pin on the old man? 247 00:10:20,887 --> 00:10:21,946 To be honest with you, 248 00:10:22,021 --> 00:10:23,532 whatever money the fire insurance raised 249 00:10:23,556 --> 00:10:25,354 would have been a drop in the ocean. 250 00:10:25,425 --> 00:10:27,425 When I was running the place, we barely broke even. 251 00:10:27,494 --> 00:10:29,053 What, you ran the station? 252 00:10:29,129 --> 00:10:31,155 I was running it at the time of the fire. 253 00:10:31,231 --> 00:10:33,132 Dad's idea of a training course. 254 00:10:33,199 --> 00:10:36,169 In amongst the grassroots before I graduated to the boardroom. 255 00:10:36,236 --> 00:10:38,569 By the time they'd rebuilt the place, 256 00:10:38,638 --> 00:10:42,075 Dad was dead and I was in the hot seat. 257 00:10:42,142 --> 00:10:45,340 Before the fire, did the company receive any threats? 258 00:10:45,411 --> 00:10:47,539 Perhaps related to your father's business troubles? 259 00:10:47,614 --> 00:10:53,451 Look, what Dad did... It's not just me he left like this. 260 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,318 People who'd worked for us for years, 261 00:10:55,388 --> 00:10:57,983 trusted us to put money into the company pension. 262 00:10:58,057 --> 00:11:00,822 First we took that away, then we sacked them. 263 00:11:01,694 --> 00:11:03,185 Of course there were threats. 264 00:11:03,263 --> 00:11:05,926 But were there any specifically against Roxy Radio? 265 00:11:05,999 --> 00:11:07,558 No. 266 00:11:07,634 --> 00:11:10,433 And they were usually pretty specific. 267 00:11:10,503 --> 00:11:13,803 What they'd like to do to Dad. What they'd like to do to me. 268 00:11:13,873 --> 00:11:16,001 And my daughters. 269 00:11:17,377 --> 00:11:18,970 Mm. Sorry. 270 00:11:19,045 --> 00:11:21,571 That's why Gemma, my wife, left. 271 00:11:21,648 --> 00:11:25,278 She took Sophie and Ella away to the States so they'd be safe. 272 00:11:25,351 --> 00:11:28,082 And to get away from this mess. 273 00:11:29,189 --> 00:11:32,216 Were any of these redundancies at Roxy Radio? 274 00:11:32,292 --> 00:11:33,692 No. 275 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,389 The place virtually ran on a skeleton staff as it was. 276 00:11:36,462 --> 00:11:38,795 There was no fat to trim. 277 00:11:38,865 --> 00:11:41,801 - Although there was a sacking. - When? 278 00:11:41,868 --> 00:11:44,667 About three weeks before the fire. 279 00:11:44,737 --> 00:11:48,299 Georgina, I think. She was a broadcast assistant. 280 00:11:48,374 --> 00:11:50,366 And why did you give her the push? 281 00:11:50,443 --> 00:11:53,038 She'd had a formal warning about stealing office supplies 282 00:11:53,112 --> 00:11:54,112 and was caught again. 283 00:11:54,147 --> 00:11:55,479 Office supplies? 284 00:11:55,548 --> 00:11:57,676 I know. 285 00:11:57,750 --> 00:11:58,843 What's a few paper clips 286 00:11:58,918 --> 00:12:01,444 compared to a £20 million pension fund? 287 00:12:07,026 --> 00:12:08,995 ♪ All the kids in the marketplace say ♪ 288 00:12:09,062 --> 00:12:11,554 ♪ Way-oh-way-oh ♪ 289 00:12:11,631 --> 00:12:16,069 ♪ Way-ohh-way-ohhhh ♪ 290 00:12:16,135 --> 00:12:19,435 ♪ Walk like an Egyptian ♪ 291 00:12:24,911 --> 00:12:27,847 Welcome to Roxy Radio. Where the '80s never ended. 292 00:12:27,914 --> 00:12:29,041 I beg your pardon? 293 00:12:29,115 --> 00:12:30,606 All '80s, all day. 294 00:12:30,683 --> 00:12:32,311 Hey hey! 295 00:12:32,385 --> 00:12:34,081 We're here to see Graham Madeley. 296 00:12:34,153 --> 00:12:35,951 I'm afraid that's not possible. 297 00:12:36,022 --> 00:12:37,081 Why not? 298 00:12:37,156 --> 00:12:39,148 'Cause he's on the air till 1:00. 299 00:12:39,225 --> 00:12:41,160 That's right, folks, it's Graham here 300 00:12:41,227 --> 00:12:43,958 with another of those great '80s sounds from Kylie, 301 00:12:44,030 --> 00:12:46,522 who's feeling lucky, lucky, lucky! 302 00:12:46,599 --> 00:12:47,658 We'll wait. 303 00:12:49,702 --> 00:12:50,965 Gerry. 304 00:12:51,037 --> 00:12:56,101 ♪ In my imagination there is no complication ♪ 305 00:12:56,175 --> 00:12:59,373 ♪ I dream about you all the time ♪ 306 00:13:05,051 --> 00:13:10,683 ♪ There's a loving in your eyes all the way ♪ 307 00:13:10,757 --> 00:13:15,593 ♪ If I listened to your lies would you say ♪ 308 00:13:15,662 --> 00:13:20,794 ♪ I'm a man without conviction ♪ 309 00:13:20,867 --> 00:13:26,807 ♪ I'm a man who doesn't know ♪ 310 00:13:26,873 --> 00:13:31,174 ♪ Karma, karma, karma karma, karma chameleon ♪ 311 00:13:31,244 --> 00:13:32,644 You can go through now. 312 00:13:32,712 --> 00:13:34,010 Thank you. 313 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,708 ♪ You come and go ♪ 314 00:13:35,782 --> 00:13:37,250 Oi. 315 00:13:37,317 --> 00:13:40,583 ♪ Loving would be easy if your colors were like my dreams ♪ 316 00:13:40,653 --> 00:13:41,773 It's down there, apparently. 317 00:13:44,657 --> 00:13:47,286 And that's all from me... Graham Madeley. 318 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,159 But we'll be back tomorrow, so until then, 319 00:13:50,229 --> 00:13:55,361 keep it real, keep it retro, keep it Roxy Radio. 320 00:13:57,804 --> 00:13:59,568 Hi, guys. 321 00:13:59,639 --> 00:14:01,403 Heard you want a little powwow. 322 00:14:03,242 --> 00:14:06,041 When I hear this I always think of Johnny. 323 00:14:06,112 --> 00:14:09,241 'Cause he's in the air. 324 00:14:09,315 --> 00:14:13,184 When I play this, I can feel him looking over my shoulder. 325 00:14:13,252 --> 00:14:15,153 You were close, then? 326 00:14:15,221 --> 00:14:16,484 Like brothers. 327 00:14:16,556 --> 00:14:18,684 Went back to the hospital-radio days. 328 00:14:18,758 --> 00:14:20,158 25 years. 329 00:14:20,226 --> 00:14:22,752 I mean, some marriages don't last that long. 330 00:14:22,829 --> 00:14:25,321 But, then, Johnny was always married to the job. 331 00:14:25,398 --> 00:14:26,709 Yeah, I remember him when he was doing 332 00:14:26,733 --> 00:14:28,702 the breakfast slot on Radio 1. 333 00:14:28,768 --> 00:14:30,634 I mean, how he kept so bleedin' cheerful 334 00:14:30,703 --> 00:14:32,467 at that time of the morning, I'll never know. 335 00:14:32,538 --> 00:14:34,131 Class "A" drugs. 336 00:14:34,207 --> 00:14:35,539 Joking! 337 00:14:35,608 --> 00:14:37,770 Easy to be cheerful when you love what you're doing. 338 00:14:37,844 --> 00:14:39,073 Yeah, but he must have had 339 00:14:39,145 --> 00:14:41,023 some kind of personality change when he came here. 340 00:14:41,047 --> 00:14:42,515 We heard a recording. 341 00:14:42,582 --> 00:14:43,675 Oh, no. 342 00:14:43,750 --> 00:14:45,844 That was just a performance. Johnny wasn't like that. 343 00:14:45,918 --> 00:14:48,444 Still, he expressed some pretty extreme views. 344 00:14:48,521 --> 00:14:49,648 Did he upset anyone? 345 00:14:49,722 --> 00:14:51,350 Well, that was the point of the show. 346 00:14:51,424 --> 00:14:52,892 To get the listeners calling in. 347 00:14:52,959 --> 00:14:56,293 But Johnny would have preferred playing music, believe me. 348 00:14:56,362 --> 00:14:57,694 Are you nearly finished, chicken? 349 00:14:57,764 --> 00:15:01,860 Why? Does Sarah miss her monkey man? 350 00:15:01,934 --> 00:15:03,368 Always. 351 00:15:04,704 --> 00:15:07,071 Were you friends with Johnny too? 352 00:15:07,140 --> 00:15:09,939 We wouldn't have got together if it hadn't been for him. 353 00:15:10,009 --> 00:15:11,602 Sarah was in the audience 354 00:15:11,677 --> 00:15:14,977 at of one of Johnny's nightclub PA's in Ilford. 355 00:15:15,047 --> 00:15:17,141 Has he sold you a Fun Day ticket yet? 356 00:15:17,216 --> 00:15:18,336 Well, it's for a good cause. 357 00:15:18,384 --> 00:15:19,909 We're trying to save the station 358 00:15:19,986 --> 00:15:21,614 by getting the community behind us. 359 00:15:21,687 --> 00:15:23,280 We're gonna let the asset strippers know 360 00:15:23,356 --> 00:15:25,757 how much the listeners want to keep us on the air. 361 00:15:25,825 --> 00:15:28,522 I mean, who doesn't like '80s music? 362 00:15:28,594 --> 00:15:29,789 Oh, please come. 363 00:15:29,862 --> 00:15:31,797 Uh, yeah, we'll bear it in mind, yeah. 364 00:15:31,864 --> 00:15:34,333 One more thing. Georgina? 365 00:15:35,334 --> 00:15:36,358 Who? 366 00:15:36,436 --> 00:15:38,837 The girl who was sacked just before the fire. 367 00:15:38,905 --> 00:15:40,168 Do you know why? 368 00:15:40,239 --> 00:15:42,208 Oh, her. 369 00:15:42,275 --> 00:15:43,709 Yeah, I had nothing to do with her. 370 00:15:43,776 --> 00:15:45,376 I just heard that she was given the push. 371 00:15:45,445 --> 00:15:49,280 Well, maybe your employee records will shed some light. 372 00:15:49,348 --> 00:15:51,510 I doubt it. 373 00:15:51,584 --> 00:15:53,951 They got destroyed in the fire. 374 00:15:54,020 --> 00:15:55,716 Ohh. 375 00:15:58,090 --> 00:15:59,183 Call the tax office. 376 00:15:59,258 --> 00:16:01,386 I'm sure their records are flame retardant. 377 00:16:01,461 --> 00:16:05,364 ♪ Karma, karma, karma, karma, karma chameleon ♪ 378 00:16:08,134 --> 00:16:09,134 Sharon Revie? 379 00:16:09,202 --> 00:16:11,967 Brian Lane. I called you this morning. 380 00:16:12,038 --> 00:16:13,734 Oh, of course. I recognize the voice. 381 00:16:13,806 --> 00:16:15,468 Come in. 382 00:16:18,744 --> 00:16:21,179 - What's his name? - Ben. 383 00:16:21,247 --> 00:16:24,649 You can stroke him if you like. He's not working now. 384 00:16:24,717 --> 00:16:25,912 Hello, Ben. 385 00:16:27,587 --> 00:16:30,523 Sharon, I need to talk to you about the fire. 386 00:16:31,524 --> 00:16:33,152 I don't remember much. 387 00:16:33,226 --> 00:16:34,922 Well, just tell me what you can. 388 00:16:35,928 --> 00:16:39,456 I was cleaning the offices as usual 389 00:16:39,532 --> 00:16:42,593 when I heard the fire alarm go off. 390 00:16:42,668 --> 00:16:45,103 I assumed it was just drill. 391 00:16:45,171 --> 00:16:47,470 Well, you do, don't you? 392 00:16:47,540 --> 00:16:50,009 I'd left my handbag in my locker, so I went back for it. 393 00:16:50,076 --> 00:16:52,602 - Why? - 'Cause it had my fags in. 394 00:16:53,613 --> 00:16:55,809 I thought if I was gonna be hanging about outside... 395 00:16:55,882 --> 00:16:57,976 Can you believe that? 396 00:16:58,050 --> 00:17:01,111 I've got a colleague who's a nicotine addict. 397 00:17:01,187 --> 00:17:03,213 Turns out it really is bad for your health. 398 00:17:04,957 --> 00:17:07,119 By the time I was making my way out, 399 00:17:07,193 --> 00:17:11,528 the place was full of smoke, and I lost my bearings. 400 00:17:11,597 --> 00:17:12,997 I don't remember any more. 401 00:17:13,065 --> 00:17:16,593 Did you notice anybody hanging about that night? 402 00:17:16,669 --> 00:17:17,693 No. 403 00:17:17,770 --> 00:17:21,104 It was just Johnny and Graham in the studio, as usual. 404 00:17:21,173 --> 00:17:23,142 That's why I cleaned in the evening. 405 00:17:23,209 --> 00:17:24,973 So I didn't get in anyone's way. 406 00:17:31,050 --> 00:17:33,383 - Oh... - Come on. 407 00:17:40,826 --> 00:17:43,762 It's not often I wish I wasn't a bloke. 408 00:17:43,829 --> 00:17:46,162 I'm sorry, but you're gonna have to leave. 409 00:17:46,232 --> 00:17:47,666 This is a women-only space. 410 00:17:47,733 --> 00:17:49,133 I wish I could. 411 00:17:49,201 --> 00:17:52,467 Police. We need to talk to Georgina Achebe. 412 00:17:52,538 --> 00:17:54,632 How can I help? 413 00:17:54,707 --> 00:17:58,109 I wasn't sacked because I took a few pens. 414 00:17:58,177 --> 00:18:01,045 I was sacked because I turned down Johnny Deacon. 415 00:18:01,113 --> 00:18:03,446 - What for? - What do you think? 416 00:18:04,450 --> 00:18:06,351 It'd been going for weeks. 417 00:18:06,419 --> 00:18:07,785 But it was my first job, 418 00:18:07,853 --> 00:18:09,719 and I thought it came with the territory. 419 00:18:09,789 --> 00:18:12,987 I was the only woman working there apart from the cleaner. 420 00:18:13,059 --> 00:18:14,550 For God's sake, it took a month 421 00:18:14,627 --> 00:18:17,529 for me to get a lock put on the ladies' toilet door. 422 00:18:17,597 --> 00:18:20,294 But I just took it all in my stride. 423 00:18:22,034 --> 00:18:23,195 Go on. 424 00:18:23,269 --> 00:18:26,068 It was late. 425 00:18:26,138 --> 00:18:28,698 Graham was dealing with his silly little wife. 426 00:18:28,774 --> 00:18:31,608 Sarah used to bring his dinners in to the studio every night, 427 00:18:31,677 --> 00:18:33,236 just let herself in. 428 00:18:33,312 --> 00:18:35,907 Quite the little woman. 429 00:18:35,982 --> 00:18:37,746 Except dinner always ended up in the bin 430 00:18:37,817 --> 00:18:40,309 so Johnny and Graham could send me out for kebabs. 431 00:18:40,386 --> 00:18:42,082 So, what happened with Johnny? 432 00:18:43,089 --> 00:18:46,025 He started telling his usual jokes. 433 00:18:47,093 --> 00:18:49,028 Told me he was curious, 434 00:18:49,095 --> 00:18:50,935 that he'd never slept with a black girl before. 435 00:18:50,997 --> 00:18:53,262 The usual creepy stuff. 436 00:18:53,332 --> 00:18:56,063 And then I realized he had me cornered. 437 00:18:57,803 --> 00:18:59,533 And that's when he started groping me. 438 00:19:00,539 --> 00:19:01,700 What did you do? 439 00:19:01,774 --> 00:19:04,608 I slapped him around the face and went straight to Graham. 440 00:19:04,677 --> 00:19:07,476 He was still with Sarah, so he acted all sympathetic. 441 00:19:07,546 --> 00:19:09,071 Sent me home. 442 00:19:09,148 --> 00:19:11,208 Promised me he'd speak to Wyatt on my behalf. 443 00:19:12,218 --> 00:19:15,382 But the next morning I was told to clear my desk. 444 00:19:15,454 --> 00:19:17,923 Didn't you try to put your side of the story? 445 00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:20,653 Wyatt refused to see me. 446 00:19:20,726 --> 00:19:24,561 I was left with no job, without a reference. 447 00:19:24,630 --> 00:19:25,893 I was 18 years old, 448 00:19:25,965 --> 00:19:29,299 and my radio career was over before it had even started. 449 00:19:29,368 --> 00:19:31,166 That's why I came to work here. 450 00:19:32,238 --> 00:19:35,606 Very admirable, but it wasn't the first thing you did, was it? 451 00:19:35,675 --> 00:19:36,768 What? 452 00:19:36,842 --> 00:19:38,970 You'd been unfairly dismissed, sexually assaulted, 453 00:19:39,045 --> 00:19:40,673 and your career had just been killed. 454 00:19:40,746 --> 00:19:42,112 I don't understand. 455 00:19:42,181 --> 00:19:44,412 Do you have an alibi for the night of the fire? 456 00:19:44,483 --> 00:19:47,351 It was 10 years ago. 457 00:19:47,420 --> 00:19:49,548 Do I need one? 458 00:19:49,622 --> 00:19:51,299 I'd have felt like getting my own back. 459 00:19:51,323 --> 00:19:54,452 - Yeah, but how far would you go? - I don't know. 460 00:19:54,527 --> 00:19:56,359 How about keying his car? 461 00:19:56,429 --> 00:19:59,194 Yes, I'd get a certain sense of satisfaction from that. 462 00:19:59,265 --> 00:20:01,063 - Slashing his tires? - Maybe. 463 00:20:01,133 --> 00:20:02,999 What about smashing both windscreens 464 00:20:03,069 --> 00:20:04,128 and all four windows? 465 00:20:04,203 --> 00:20:05,694 I'm pissed off, not psychotic. 466 00:20:05,771 --> 00:20:07,239 Then we're looking for a psychopath 467 00:20:07,306 --> 00:20:09,026 because that's what happened to Johnny's car 468 00:20:09,075 --> 00:20:10,236 a week before the fire. 469 00:20:10,309 --> 00:20:12,244 Why wasn't this in the original file? 470 00:20:12,311 --> 00:20:15,679 Because the Barnet plods dealt with it as a vandalism case. 471 00:20:15,748 --> 00:20:18,308 It never crossed with the original investigation. 472 00:20:18,384 --> 00:20:20,319 And I wonder if Georgina has trouble 473 00:20:20,386 --> 00:20:22,252 finding an alibi for that as well? 474 00:20:22,321 --> 00:20:24,347 - She was questioned but cleared. - Oh. 475 00:20:24,423 --> 00:20:27,791 But it wasn't the first time Johnny had incited violence. 476 00:20:27,860 --> 00:20:31,490 In 1987 he was doing a gig when some bloke smacked him one 477 00:20:31,564 --> 00:20:34,056 for copping off with his daughter. 478 00:20:34,133 --> 00:20:37,433 Frank Bryant was charged with assault. 479 00:20:37,503 --> 00:20:39,301 But Johnny dropped the charges. 480 00:20:39,371 --> 00:20:41,897 - Why? - Doesn't say. 481 00:20:41,974 --> 00:20:44,239 You don't honestly think that this Bryant bloke 482 00:20:44,310 --> 00:20:46,472 turned up 10 years later and set him on fire? 483 00:20:46,545 --> 00:20:47,604 I doubt it. 484 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,025 But I do think we need to build a better picture of the victim. 485 00:20:50,049 --> 00:20:51,312 The original investigation 486 00:20:51,383 --> 00:20:53,375 were too distracted by the Wyatts to do that. 487 00:20:53,452 --> 00:20:56,354 What we do need is to find out whoever else he crossed. 488 00:20:56,422 --> 00:21:00,223 Well, luckily for us, Johnny always broadcast his arguments. 489 00:21:00,292 --> 00:21:04,662 I think Johnny's one-man fan club might be of use after all. 490 00:21:24,016 --> 00:21:26,042 Oh, look! 491 00:21:26,118 --> 00:21:29,418 Me mum and dad used to have one of these. 492 00:21:30,556 --> 00:21:33,424 Ohh, the hours I've spent in front of it. 493 00:21:33,492 --> 00:21:36,929 Listening to "Round the Horne," "The Clitheroe Kid." 494 00:21:36,996 --> 00:21:38,430 "The Goons." 495 00:21:38,497 --> 00:21:40,193 Mind, that were later on. 496 00:21:40,266 --> 00:21:41,791 You rotten swine! 497 00:21:41,867 --> 00:21:43,335 You've deaded me! 498 00:21:44,837 --> 00:21:46,567 "Ying tong iddle I po"? 499 00:21:48,174 --> 00:21:50,234 I've got everything ready for you in the back. 500 00:21:50,309 --> 00:21:51,402 Ah, great. 501 00:21:58,450 --> 00:22:00,442 Where did you get all these? 502 00:22:00,519 --> 00:22:04,388 I started recording them from the radio in 1986. 503 00:22:04,456 --> 00:22:08,120 I had some, um, health problems when I was a kid. 504 00:22:08,194 --> 00:22:09,560 Never really at school. 505 00:22:09,628 --> 00:22:11,096 My mum bought me a radio-cassette 506 00:22:11,163 --> 00:22:12,859 as a bit of company. 507 00:22:12,932 --> 00:22:14,127 I see. 508 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,568 It's a commitment maintaining an archive like this. 509 00:22:17,636 --> 00:22:21,937 But of course I started on the big project three years ago. 510 00:22:25,144 --> 00:22:28,410 Full-format transfer from cassette tape to CD. 511 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,676 No point in being analog in a digital age. 512 00:22:30,749 --> 00:22:33,082 How long did that take? 513 00:22:33,152 --> 00:22:34,586 I only just finished it last month. 514 00:22:35,588 --> 00:22:37,284 Every show Johnny ever did. 515 00:22:37,356 --> 00:22:39,222 Except for the hospital-radio shows. 516 00:22:39,291 --> 00:22:41,260 That's when I first heard him, when I was in 517 00:22:41,327 --> 00:22:43,159 for one of me operations. 518 00:22:44,163 --> 00:22:47,327 Right, I'm gonna send some lads down to box this lot up 519 00:22:47,399 --> 00:22:48,924 and take it to the station. 520 00:22:49,935 --> 00:22:51,130 Box it up? 521 00:22:51,203 --> 00:22:53,604 Have you any idea how much my collection is worth? 522 00:22:55,007 --> 00:22:56,600 I don't know. 523 00:22:56,675 --> 00:22:59,543 Well, it's priceless. I mean absolutely priceless. 524 00:22:59,612 --> 00:23:01,808 But I need to listen to them. 525 00:23:01,881 --> 00:23:05,249 Well, can't you just listen to them here? 526 00:23:05,317 --> 00:23:08,685 I could put the kettle on, make us both a cuppa. 527 00:23:15,494 --> 00:23:16,427 He won't be long. 528 00:23:16,495 --> 00:23:18,157 He's just finished recording some jingles. 529 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:19,960 - Thanks. - Thank you. 530 00:23:21,734 --> 00:23:24,329 Look at all this stuff. 531 00:23:25,804 --> 00:23:28,535 Smash Hits award for most popular deejay. 532 00:23:28,607 --> 00:23:31,338 Johnny won it in '86. 533 00:23:31,410 --> 00:23:34,141 Sarah says I'm Johnny's mad curator, 534 00:23:34,213 --> 00:23:35,647 keeping his memory alive. 535 00:23:35,714 --> 00:23:37,774 Quite the ladies' man, wasn't he? 536 00:23:37,850 --> 00:23:39,512 The ladies were queuing up. 537 00:23:39,585 --> 00:23:41,850 Not according to Georgina Achebe. 538 00:23:41,921 --> 00:23:44,117 She says that Johnny forced himself on her. 539 00:23:44,189 --> 00:23:45,418 No, he didn't. 540 00:23:45,491 --> 00:23:46,868 How do you know that? Were you there? 541 00:23:46,892 --> 00:23:47,723 Were you? 542 00:23:47,793 --> 00:23:49,989 Look, Johnny wasn't like that. 543 00:23:50,062 --> 00:23:51,928 And she was a bitch. 544 00:23:51,997 --> 00:23:53,727 She'd only been in radio for five minutes, 545 00:23:53,799 --> 00:23:55,944 and she thought it was okay to risk the career of someone 546 00:23:55,968 --> 00:23:57,960 with over 20 years' broadcasting experience. 547 00:23:58,037 --> 00:24:00,302 No, no, no. He risked that himself when he assaulted her. 548 00:24:00,372 --> 00:24:03,274 Assaulted? No. Bit of fun. 549 00:24:03,342 --> 00:24:04,605 So he did make a pass? 550 00:24:04,677 --> 00:24:08,273 Yes, but she should have treated it as a compliment. 551 00:24:08,347 --> 00:24:10,145 He found her attractive. 552 00:24:10,215 --> 00:24:12,810 Cameron Wyatt agreed. That's why he sacked her. 553 00:24:12,885 --> 00:24:14,786 She was trying to damage Johnny's career. 554 00:24:14,853 --> 00:24:17,118 I'd say it was Johnny's libido doing all the damage. 555 00:24:17,189 --> 00:24:19,055 And it wasn't the first time, was it? 556 00:24:19,124 --> 00:24:21,218 I'm not sure what you're getting at. 557 00:24:21,293 --> 00:24:23,159 Milton Keynes? 558 00:24:23,228 --> 00:24:25,959 Frank Bryant and his daughter? 559 00:24:26,031 --> 00:24:28,091 That was a misunderstanding. 560 00:24:28,167 --> 00:24:29,635 Johnny dropped the charges. 561 00:24:30,569 --> 00:24:31,764 Why? 562 00:24:31,837 --> 00:24:36,241 Like I said, it was a misunderstanding. 563 00:24:37,509 --> 00:24:41,241 But we are gonna have to accept that Britain is full. 564 00:24:41,313 --> 00:24:44,044 Let's pull up the drawbridge, put up the sign... 565 00:24:44,116 --> 00:24:46,984 "Closed to immigrants." Except perhaps the Polish. 566 00:24:47,052 --> 00:24:49,521 My cleaning lady is a Pole. She's a damn hard worker... 567 00:24:49,588 --> 00:24:51,318 Look, I haven't got a problem with gays. 568 00:24:51,390 --> 00:24:53,882 Just keep it behind closed doors, away from children. 569 00:24:53,959 --> 00:24:56,485 Don't shove it in our faces and down our throats... 570 00:24:56,562 --> 00:24:59,122 What is more British than a good old fox hunt? 571 00:24:59,198 --> 00:25:00,928 I mean, if we ban it, 572 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,832 what are we gonna put on our Christmas cards? 573 00:25:02,901 --> 00:25:03,901 Seriously. 574 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,983 Yes, well, he was, uh, quite opinionated. 575 00:25:19,051 --> 00:25:20,713 Well, he told it like it was. 576 00:25:20,786 --> 00:25:22,982 You know, he knew how to get a debate going. 577 00:25:23,055 --> 00:25:25,320 The lines would be jammed every night with calls, 578 00:25:25,391 --> 00:25:26,882 people desperate to get on his show. 579 00:25:26,959 --> 00:25:30,191 If only to call him a tosser and slam the phone down. 580 00:25:30,262 --> 00:25:32,788 And who was this "Tarzan Girl" who kept calling? 581 00:25:32,865 --> 00:25:35,198 I don't... Tarzan Girl? 582 00:25:40,639 --> 00:25:43,040 Hi, Johnny. It's Tarzan Girl again. 583 00:25:43,108 --> 00:25:45,077 Just wanted to say I love you and the show 584 00:25:45,144 --> 00:25:46,504 and can you play "Tarzan Boy" by... 585 00:25:46,545 --> 00:25:48,013 No. Do you know why that is? 586 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,345 Because this is a talk show. 587 00:25:50,416 --> 00:25:52,112 Stupid cow. 588 00:25:56,188 --> 00:25:59,181 Now, I've only listened to a week's worth of shows, 589 00:25:59,258 --> 00:26:01,557 and she's already rung in three times. 590 00:26:01,627 --> 00:26:03,459 Johnny, he got a lot of nutters. 591 00:26:03,529 --> 00:26:05,464 I mean, that was all part of the fun. 592 00:26:05,531 --> 00:26:07,591 So did you ever actually meet him? 593 00:26:07,666 --> 00:26:09,225 No. No, no. 594 00:26:09,301 --> 00:26:13,068 I went to one of his Radio 1 Roadshows once. 595 00:26:13,138 --> 00:26:17,473 So, Jeremy, what else do you get up to? 596 00:26:19,945 --> 00:26:21,277 Not much. 597 00:26:21,346 --> 00:26:23,645 I've got the shop, obviously. 598 00:26:23,715 --> 00:26:25,274 Takes up most of me time. 599 00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:28,320 Have you actually had a customer today? 600 00:26:28,387 --> 00:26:30,879 Oh, well, it's always quiet on Tuesdays. 601 00:26:30,956 --> 00:26:32,117 It's Thursday. 602 00:26:37,596 --> 00:26:40,327 You know, it's nice to have a hobby, 603 00:26:40,399 --> 00:26:44,166 but it's nice to get out too. 604 00:26:44,236 --> 00:26:46,865 Smell the roses, drink the wine. 605 00:26:46,939 --> 00:26:48,032 Make some friends. 606 00:26:48,107 --> 00:26:50,599 Yeah, well, uh, I've never been any good at that. 607 00:26:50,676 --> 00:26:52,736 What with me missing school, 608 00:26:52,811 --> 00:26:55,838 I'm not confident and sorted like you. 609 00:26:57,883 --> 00:27:00,978 I saw how you were with your mates at the station. 610 00:27:01,987 --> 00:27:04,547 Oh, aye, we have a laugh. 611 00:27:04,623 --> 00:27:07,092 Well, we do when everyone's there. 612 00:27:07,159 --> 00:27:11,756 I just never worked out how you actually did it. 613 00:27:11,830 --> 00:27:13,162 Made friends. 614 00:27:13,232 --> 00:27:15,133 Oh, it's easy. 615 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,035 In fact it's so easy you've just done it without even realizing. 616 00:27:20,906 --> 00:27:22,306 What, really? Me and you? 617 00:27:22,374 --> 00:27:24,366 Yeah, of course. 618 00:27:27,079 --> 00:27:30,447 By the way, this is not a complete collection. 619 00:27:32,184 --> 00:27:35,416 - What are you trying to say? - There's a tape missing. 620 00:27:36,955 --> 00:27:38,856 23rd of August. 621 00:27:39,958 --> 00:27:41,836 No, that's not missing. There wasn't a show that day. 622 00:27:41,860 --> 00:27:43,954 Because of the pensioners occupying the station. 623 00:27:46,832 --> 00:27:48,266 A week before the fire, 624 00:27:48,333 --> 00:27:51,735 the station was invaded and occupied 625 00:27:51,803 --> 00:27:55,205 by this militant gang of Wyatt Corporation pensioners. 626 00:27:55,274 --> 00:27:56,207 Mm-hmm. 627 00:27:56,275 --> 00:27:58,073 When the police finally entered the building, 628 00:27:58,143 --> 00:28:01,307 they found the ringleaders had chained themselves to the desks. 629 00:28:01,380 --> 00:28:02,973 Although they did come quietly. 630 00:28:03,048 --> 00:28:04,175 Okay, next question. 631 00:28:04,249 --> 00:28:07,583 Are you absolutely sure this is where we'll find the ringleader? 632 00:28:07,653 --> 00:28:11,021 Fair trade not free trade! 633 00:28:11,089 --> 00:28:14,287 Fair trade not free trade! 634 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,227 Fair trade not free trade! 635 00:28:17,296 --> 00:28:19,162 Thanks. Which one is Harriet Longthorn? 636 00:28:19,231 --> 00:28:20,995 She's just around the corner. 637 00:28:21,066 --> 00:28:24,093 Fair trade not free trade! 638 00:28:24,169 --> 00:28:27,333 Fair trade not free trade! 639 00:28:27,406 --> 00:28:29,204 - Here she is. - Cheers. 640 00:28:29,274 --> 00:28:32,142 - Harriet Longthorn? - Yes, dear? 641 00:28:32,211 --> 00:28:34,806 Detective Superintendent Pullman, Brian Lane, UCOS. 642 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,714 We're reinvestigating a fire at Roxy Radio studios 643 00:28:37,783 --> 00:28:40,184 and was hoping you could help us with our inquiries. 644 00:28:40,252 --> 00:28:42,244 "Help with our inquiries." 645 00:28:43,622 --> 00:28:45,523 Yes, I'd just like to ask you a few questions. 646 00:28:45,591 --> 00:28:47,958 Well, would that be under caution, dear? 647 00:28:48,026 --> 00:28:50,461 No, I don't think there's any need for that just yet. 648 00:28:50,529 --> 00:28:53,328 But you're anticipating there will be eventually? 649 00:28:53,398 --> 00:28:54,593 No. 650 00:28:54,666 --> 00:28:58,797 What if I refuse, retain my right to silence? 651 00:28:58,870 --> 00:29:01,339 I'd just like to ask you a few questions. 652 00:29:01,406 --> 00:29:05,070 That's how it usually starts. A few questions. 653 00:29:05,143 --> 00:29:08,773 What about if I promise to abide by the Geneva Convention? 654 00:29:08,847 --> 00:29:10,782 - Oh! - Now, it's up to you. 655 00:29:10,849 --> 00:29:12,841 You can talk to us here or down at the station. 656 00:29:16,521 --> 00:29:19,923 I don't suppose any of you remember who has the keys. 657 00:29:21,426 --> 00:29:22,758 No. 658 00:29:26,698 --> 00:29:28,690 Go on. 659 00:29:56,795 --> 00:29:58,093 Cameron? 660 00:30:03,902 --> 00:30:04,835 Oh! 661 00:30:04,903 --> 00:30:07,202 Just a little something the bailiff missed. 662 00:30:07,272 --> 00:30:08,433 Huh! 663 00:30:08,507 --> 00:30:11,773 I thought you'd, uh... I mean from upstairs it sounded like... 664 00:30:11,843 --> 00:30:15,109 You thought I'd killed myself? 665 00:30:15,180 --> 00:30:17,513 Well, your family does have a history of it. 666 00:30:17,582 --> 00:30:19,517 Well, I can't afford a Bentley. Or a gun. 667 00:30:19,584 --> 00:30:21,314 I'd have stuck my head in the oven, 668 00:30:21,386 --> 00:30:23,116 but they've turned off the gas. 669 00:30:23,188 --> 00:30:25,350 No, I'm sorry. It's not funny, is it? 670 00:30:25,424 --> 00:30:26,824 Oh, yes, it is. 671 00:30:26,892 --> 00:30:28,303 In fact, I've done a lot more laughing 672 00:30:28,327 --> 00:30:29,637 since this whole thing kicked off. 673 00:30:29,661 --> 00:30:30,424 Really? 674 00:30:30,495 --> 00:30:31,861 There was never any time before. 675 00:30:31,930 --> 00:30:34,297 I was on the corporate treadmill from the age of 16. 676 00:30:34,366 --> 00:30:36,062 I'd still be on it if it wasn't for Dad. 677 00:30:37,869 --> 00:30:40,168 You sound like you're glad that he got caught out. 678 00:30:40,238 --> 00:30:41,365 I am. 679 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,636 Oh, I've been at it for years. 680 00:30:43,709 --> 00:30:46,975 Living to work. Ignoring Gemma and the kids. 681 00:30:47,045 --> 00:30:49,776 Doing things I could never be proud of. 682 00:30:49,848 --> 00:30:53,979 Like ignoring Georgina Achebe's sexual harassment case? 683 00:30:54,052 --> 00:30:55,714 I didn't know anything about that. 684 00:30:55,787 --> 00:30:57,415 You refused to take her calls. 685 00:30:57,489 --> 00:30:59,549 I didn't want to be bothered with the problems 686 00:30:59,624 --> 00:31:01,923 of some tiny part of the business. 687 00:31:01,993 --> 00:31:03,120 Actually, the less time 688 00:31:03,195 --> 00:31:05,596 I spent in a room with Graham and Johnny, the better. 689 00:31:05,664 --> 00:31:06,893 Really? 690 00:31:08,033 --> 00:31:09,558 Johnny was a straightforward asshole. 691 00:31:09,634 --> 00:31:11,398 Which was why he was so good on the radio. 692 00:31:11,470 --> 00:31:13,666 Graham gave me the creeps. 693 00:31:13,739 --> 00:31:15,537 The way he was always sucking up to Johnny. 694 00:31:15,607 --> 00:31:17,872 Always agreeing with him, telling him how great he was. 695 00:31:17,943 --> 00:31:19,878 Yeah, but that's show biz, innit? 696 00:31:19,945 --> 00:31:22,244 They hated each other, just couldn't function apart. 697 00:31:22,314 --> 00:31:24,874 In fact, that's what Graham seemed scared of... 698 00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:26,714 Being without Johnny. 699 00:31:27,886 --> 00:31:29,218 Huh. 700 00:31:29,287 --> 00:31:31,119 Cheers. 701 00:31:32,023 --> 00:31:33,685 Here. 702 00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:35,159 Take this. 703 00:31:35,227 --> 00:31:37,662 Oh, thanks. '85! 704 00:31:37,729 --> 00:31:39,459 Whoa, I'll save that for a special occasion. 705 00:31:39,531 --> 00:31:41,523 Well, then I'll take it back. 706 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,569 Don't put off the good stuff. 707 00:31:44,936 --> 00:31:46,481 I worked since the minute I left school, 708 00:31:46,505 --> 00:31:47,973 and what have I got to show for it? 709 00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:50,031 A nice house? No. 710 00:31:50,108 --> 00:31:53,806 A wife to come home to? No. 711 00:31:54,746 --> 00:31:57,238 It's not the most original thought, but life's too short. 712 00:31:57,315 --> 00:31:59,216 Yeah, maybe you're right. 713 00:31:59,284 --> 00:32:01,185 I'll open it tonight. 714 00:32:02,821 --> 00:32:04,414 So, what's next for you, then? 715 00:32:04,489 --> 00:32:06,685 I've just used my last working credit card 716 00:32:06,758 --> 00:32:08,522 to book a one-way flight to Seattle. 717 00:32:08,593 --> 00:32:10,789 It's where Gemma and the kids are. 718 00:32:10,862 --> 00:32:14,526 I may be too late, but it's worth a try. 719 00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:17,230 Yeah, well, go for it. Good luck. 720 00:32:17,302 --> 00:32:18,998 And thanks. 721 00:32:21,773 --> 00:32:23,571 Your arrest record. 722 00:32:23,642 --> 00:32:24,871 Impressive. 723 00:32:24,943 --> 00:32:26,673 Thank you very much. 724 00:32:26,745 --> 00:32:29,214 Menwith Hill. Sellafield. 725 00:32:29,281 --> 00:32:30,840 London Fashion Week? 726 00:32:30,916 --> 00:32:33,283 Campaign against the fur trade. 727 00:32:33,351 --> 00:32:38,016 So i-if I were to ask you what you were rebelling against... 728 00:32:38,089 --> 00:32:39,614 I'd say, "What have you got?" 729 00:32:39,691 --> 00:32:42,024 Yeah, well, there's a difference between rebelling 730 00:32:42,093 --> 00:32:46,121 and trespass, criminal damage, threatening behavior. 731 00:32:46,198 --> 00:32:48,099 No one ever gets hurt. 732 00:32:48,166 --> 00:32:50,135 At Roxy Radio, someone died. 733 00:32:50,202 --> 00:32:53,229 That was nothing to do with the campaign. 734 00:32:53,305 --> 00:32:55,934 You and your gang did occupy the building the week before. 735 00:32:56,007 --> 00:32:57,007 You just walked in, 736 00:32:57,042 --> 00:32:59,253 chained yourselves to the desks in the middle of a broadcast. 737 00:32:59,277 --> 00:33:01,405 What was to stop you from walking in a week later 738 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,176 to plant an incendiary device? 739 00:33:03,248 --> 00:33:06,082 That's not what we're about. 740 00:33:06,151 --> 00:33:10,213 We inconvenience and disrupt. That's all. 741 00:33:10,288 --> 00:33:13,281 We'd already made our point at Roxy Radio. 742 00:33:13,358 --> 00:33:15,486 We'd have moved on to the next target. 743 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,791 So how did you just walk in? 744 00:33:19,064 --> 00:33:20,123 I'm sorry? 745 00:33:20,198 --> 00:33:21,598 To Roxy Radio. 746 00:33:21,666 --> 00:33:23,794 How did you get past the key-code doors? 747 00:33:23,869 --> 00:33:28,398 Oh, I can't remember, dear. 748 00:33:28,473 --> 00:33:30,601 I've slept since then. 749 00:33:31,610 --> 00:33:33,442 Who gave you the codes? 750 00:33:33,512 --> 00:33:35,378 Somebody with a grudge? 751 00:33:35,447 --> 00:33:38,542 Hmm, well, there had been massive redundancies. 752 00:33:38,617 --> 00:33:40,108 Not at Roxy Radio. 753 00:33:40,185 --> 00:33:41,362 That was one of the few places 754 00:33:41,386 --> 00:33:42,854 where people hadn't lost their jobs. 755 00:33:42,921 --> 00:33:44,651 Except for one person. 756 00:33:50,061 --> 00:33:52,087 I'm going to see Georgina Achebe, 757 00:33:52,163 --> 00:33:53,791 see how she feels about direct action. 758 00:33:53,865 --> 00:33:55,663 No, hold on. Listen to this. 759 00:33:55,734 --> 00:33:56,667 "He's not right. 760 00:33:56,735 --> 00:33:58,761 I could tell by the look in his eyes. 761 00:33:58,837 --> 00:34:01,238 He didn't give a damn. He's a dirty pervert. 762 00:34:01,306 --> 00:34:03,434 Look, I admit I hit him. 763 00:34:03,508 --> 00:34:06,342 But you can't tell me he didn't deserve it, not after... 764 00:34:06,411 --> 00:34:09,438 She's only 15, for God's sake." 765 00:34:09,514 --> 00:34:11,039 You auditioning for something? 766 00:34:11,116 --> 00:34:13,085 This is the transcript of the statement 767 00:34:13,151 --> 00:34:15,985 that Frank Bryant gave the boys at Milton Keynes. 768 00:34:16,054 --> 00:34:18,523 No wonder he dropped the charges. 769 00:34:18,590 --> 00:34:19,819 Johnny got smacked 770 00:34:19,891 --> 00:34:22,122 because he'd spent the night with Bryant's daughter. 771 00:34:22,193 --> 00:34:24,389 - The 15-year-old? - Exactly. 772 00:34:24,462 --> 00:34:26,158 Graham Madeley made a statement 773 00:34:26,231 --> 00:34:27,961 saying that Johnny never touched the girl 774 00:34:28,033 --> 00:34:29,467 and the assault was unprovoked. 775 00:34:29,534 --> 00:34:31,662 The girl wouldn't make a statement either way, 776 00:34:31,736 --> 00:34:34,501 which left the Milton Keynes boys on a very sticky wicket. 777 00:34:34,573 --> 00:34:37,202 No complaint from the victim, no charges. 778 00:34:38,209 --> 00:34:39,507 I'm beginning to see why Johnny 779 00:34:39,578 --> 00:34:42,013 wanted Madeley around all the time. 780 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,413 He knew too much about him to let him go. 781 00:34:48,687 --> 00:34:50,952 Before I was sacked, there was a memo sent 'round 782 00:34:51,022 --> 00:34:53,014 telling everyone to be vigilant about security 783 00:34:53,091 --> 00:34:55,117 because of the protests. 784 00:34:55,193 --> 00:34:57,321 It seemed like a good way to get back at everyone. 785 00:34:57,395 --> 00:34:59,125 And I bet that felt good too. 786 00:34:59,197 --> 00:35:01,257 Yeah. It did. 787 00:35:01,333 --> 00:35:03,495 So good that you thought you'd take it further? 788 00:35:03,568 --> 00:35:05,833 - No. - You vandalized Johnny's car. 789 00:35:05,904 --> 00:35:08,635 But that wasn't enough, so you decided to burn the place down. 790 00:35:08,707 --> 00:35:10,005 No, no, I promise. 791 00:35:10,075 --> 00:35:12,977 Once I'd given Harriet the code, that was me out. 792 00:35:13,044 --> 00:35:16,071 I never wanted to set foot in that studio again. 793 00:35:16,147 --> 00:35:19,208 I didn't realize until I'd left, but that place was poisonous. 794 00:35:19,284 --> 00:35:20,513 What do you mean? 795 00:35:20,585 --> 00:35:22,952 Well, the atmosphere between Johnny and Graham, for a start. 796 00:35:23,021 --> 00:35:24,080 Everyone commented on it. 797 00:35:24,155 --> 00:35:25,953 What atmosphere? I thought they were friends. 798 00:35:26,024 --> 00:35:27,390 Not from what I could see. 799 00:35:27,459 --> 00:35:29,360 I don't even think they liked each other. 800 00:35:29,427 --> 00:35:32,295 There was no back and forth between them. 801 00:35:32,364 --> 00:35:34,993 You know, when you're close to someone, you take the piss. 802 00:35:35,066 --> 00:35:36,677 The better you like them, the more you do it, 803 00:35:36,701 --> 00:35:37,634 the further you go, right? 804 00:35:37,702 --> 00:35:40,604 - You mean they didn't banter? - Well, Johnny did. 805 00:35:40,672 --> 00:35:44,165 But it wasn't humorous. It was cruel. 806 00:35:45,176 --> 00:35:47,839 I mean, I only ever heard Graham come back at him once. 807 00:35:47,912 --> 00:35:51,781 When Johnny took the piss out of him for Sarah leaving him. 808 00:35:51,850 --> 00:35:53,284 That's not funny. 809 00:35:53,351 --> 00:35:56,253 No. Not funny. 810 00:35:56,321 --> 00:35:58,483 But it was true. 811 00:35:58,556 --> 00:36:00,821 Sarah and Graham had had this huge row 812 00:36:00,892 --> 00:36:02,690 at the Roxy Radio summer party. 813 00:36:02,761 --> 00:36:04,423 When was this? 814 00:36:04,496 --> 00:36:08,365 About three weeks before the fire, just before I was sacked. 815 00:36:08,433 --> 00:36:10,425 It happened during the firework display. 816 00:36:10,502 --> 00:36:12,164 Everyone was outside. 817 00:36:12,237 --> 00:36:14,968 When the noise died down, we all heard Sarah shouting 818 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,617 that Graham could come home whenever he wanted 819 00:36:16,641 --> 00:36:19,372 'cause she wouldn't be there when he got back. 820 00:36:20,378 --> 00:36:22,745 Look, I didn't burn that place down. 821 00:36:22,814 --> 00:36:24,442 You have to believe that. 822 00:36:27,385 --> 00:36:29,911 I think we can rule out the gray panthers. 823 00:36:29,988 --> 00:36:32,423 But Georgina is still in the frame for me. 824 00:36:32,490 --> 00:36:35,358 She's still not copping for the car vandalism either? 825 00:36:35,427 --> 00:36:37,328 No. Insisting it wasn't her. 826 00:36:37,395 --> 00:36:39,159 Popular guy, wasn't he? 827 00:36:39,230 --> 00:36:40,698 Johnny? 828 00:36:40,765 --> 00:36:42,893 I only listened to a few of his shows. 829 00:36:42,967 --> 00:36:44,595 I wanted to set fire to him myself. 830 00:36:44,669 --> 00:36:47,798 I was the same when I heard what Frank Bryant had to say. 831 00:36:47,872 --> 00:36:50,706 The only person with a good word for him so far is Graham. 832 00:36:50,775 --> 00:36:53,370 Yeah, everyone reckons Johnny treated him like muck. 833 00:36:53,445 --> 00:36:55,365 Yet he won't hear a bad word about him. 834 00:36:55,413 --> 00:36:57,609 I mean, his office is like a shrine to Johnny. 835 00:36:57,682 --> 00:36:59,548 He's a Deacon disciple. 836 00:36:59,617 --> 00:37:02,644 True. But the more we question him, the less comfortable he is. 837 00:37:02,721 --> 00:37:03,814 Yeah. 838 00:37:03,888 --> 00:37:06,517 Whoa, hold on! Whoa, wait! 839 00:37:06,591 --> 00:37:08,856 Enjoy it. 840 00:37:08,927 --> 00:37:11,089 That's what I was trying to do. 841 00:37:11,162 --> 00:37:13,654 No, no, no, no. Look, look, look. 842 00:37:31,082 --> 00:37:32,277 Well? 843 00:37:34,085 --> 00:37:36,213 Gorgeous. 844 00:37:36,287 --> 00:37:37,687 That's what I mean. 845 00:37:37,756 --> 00:37:39,190 You've got to give yourself time 846 00:37:39,257 --> 00:37:41,226 to enjoy life's little pleasures. 847 00:37:41,292 --> 00:37:42,385 Oh, here we go. 848 00:37:42,460 --> 00:37:44,895 Ever since you had that bonding session with Cameron, 849 00:37:44,963 --> 00:37:47,831 it's been all "smell the flowers, feel the wind." 850 00:37:49,134 --> 00:37:51,569 Well, I think he's right. 851 00:37:51,636 --> 00:37:54,470 I mean, we're all on a hamster wheel, aren't we? 852 00:37:54,539 --> 00:37:58,271 Well, maybe I'm thinking of opting out of the rat race. 853 00:37:59,878 --> 00:38:02,211 Are we rats or are we hamsters? 854 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,182 Maybe I don't want to be any kind of rodent. 855 00:38:05,250 --> 00:38:08,448 Maybe I don't want to work until they find me cold and stiff 856 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:09,852 in the corner of the cage. 857 00:38:10,855 --> 00:38:13,188 Now, listen, it's the Roxy Radio Fun Day tomorrow. 858 00:38:13,258 --> 00:38:15,489 I think we should go along there and rattle a few cages. 859 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,392 Especially Graham's. 860 00:38:17,462 --> 00:38:18,589 How we gonna do that? 861 00:38:18,663 --> 00:38:20,962 He'd be on his guard as soon as he saw us. 862 00:38:21,032 --> 00:38:23,467 Only you and me. He doesn't know Brian, does he? 863 00:38:23,535 --> 00:38:25,868 He could just be a fan 864 00:38:25,937 --> 00:38:28,406 going along to ask some pertinent questions. 865 00:38:28,473 --> 00:38:30,169 Yeah. 866 00:38:30,241 --> 00:38:31,766 Well, no, the only problem is 867 00:38:31,843 --> 00:38:35,473 he doesn't really look like a Roxy Radio fan, does he? 868 00:38:35,547 --> 00:38:38,016 Well, I could do, though. 869 00:38:38,082 --> 00:38:40,677 What's a Roxy Radio fan look like? 870 00:38:43,521 --> 00:38:46,320 Esther? It's me. 871 00:38:46,391 --> 00:38:50,294 Hey, have I got any clothes in pastel shades? 872 00:38:51,529 --> 00:38:53,760 Jeremy just popped 'round. 873 00:38:53,832 --> 00:38:54,952 I said you wouldn't be long, 874 00:38:54,999 --> 00:38:56,639 so he might as well stay and have a cuppa. 875 00:38:56,701 --> 00:38:58,397 And watch "EastEnders." 876 00:38:58,469 --> 00:38:59,664 Right. 877 00:38:59,737 --> 00:39:01,296 We've had a lovely chat. 878 00:39:02,307 --> 00:39:06,039 You don't mind, do you? You did say we were friends now. 879 00:39:06,110 --> 00:39:07,544 No, it's fine. 880 00:39:10,148 --> 00:39:12,617 - Another biscuit? - Oh, yes, please. 881 00:39:14,853 --> 00:39:17,220 - Bye. I'll see you. - Bye-bye. 882 00:39:17,288 --> 00:39:19,883 - Go. Go on. - Shh! 883 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,253 Well, I think it's nice that you've got a new friend. 884 00:39:26,331 --> 00:39:28,357 I was just being polite. 885 00:39:28,433 --> 00:39:30,698 I was just trying to boost his confidence 886 00:39:30,768 --> 00:39:33,704 so he might go out and find some friends his own age. 887 00:39:33,771 --> 00:39:36,172 You know, maybe go to a disco or something. 888 00:39:36,241 --> 00:39:39,734 Well, talk about the blind leading the socially inept. 889 00:39:39,811 --> 00:39:41,006 What's that supposed to mean? 890 00:39:41,079 --> 00:39:42,857 Well, you haven't got any friends either, have you? 891 00:39:42,881 --> 00:39:44,747 Of course I have! 892 00:39:44,816 --> 00:39:47,786 What do you call Sandra and Gerry and Jack? 893 00:39:47,852 --> 00:39:50,048 Your colleagues. 894 00:39:53,691 --> 00:39:55,660 He's come as what? 895 00:39:56,794 --> 00:39:59,263 Oh, that is brilliant. 896 00:39:59,330 --> 00:40:01,697 Yeah. I'm on my way out now. 897 00:40:01,766 --> 00:40:04,565 I'll see you later. Okay, bye. 898 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,406 Pullman. 899 00:40:12,143 --> 00:40:15,204 Oh, hello, sir. Could I call you back 'cause... 900 00:40:17,315 --> 00:40:19,807 No, I haven't really had the time. 901 00:40:19,884 --> 00:40:21,614 This case has been... 902 00:40:24,322 --> 00:40:26,257 No, sir. 903 00:40:26,324 --> 00:40:28,657 Yes, right away, sir. 904 00:40:46,744 --> 00:40:48,440 Come on, then. 905 00:40:48,513 --> 00:40:50,641 Feel like a right berk. 906 00:40:50,715 --> 00:40:52,616 I look like a right berk. 907 00:40:52,684 --> 00:40:55,848 No, it's terrific. You'll blend in. 908 00:40:59,624 --> 00:41:02,355 What has Esther done to me? 909 00:41:02,427 --> 00:41:05,022 Are you sure you've never seen "Miami Vice"? 910 00:41:05,096 --> 00:41:07,656 No, I told you. I don't watch police shows. 911 00:41:07,732 --> 00:41:10,031 Load of rubbish. 912 00:41:10,101 --> 00:41:12,434 I think you're supposed to be Crockett. 913 00:41:12,503 --> 00:41:14,472 No, Esther said something about 914 00:41:14,539 --> 00:41:16,804 how she'd like to come home to Don Johnson. 915 00:41:16,874 --> 00:41:17,807 Oh. 916 00:41:17,875 --> 00:41:20,845 I take it he doesn't wear socks. 917 00:41:20,912 --> 00:41:23,575 ♪ I think we're alone now ♪ 918 00:41:23,648 --> 00:41:25,514 And we all love that one. 919 00:41:25,583 --> 00:41:27,484 Are you having a good time? 920 00:41:27,552 --> 00:41:28,884 - Yeah. - Yeah. 921 00:41:28,953 --> 00:41:29,977 Well, that's good 922 00:41:30,054 --> 00:41:32,523 'cause a little bird tells me it can only get better. 923 00:41:32,590 --> 00:41:36,459 ♪ I like small speakers ♪ 924 00:41:36,527 --> 00:41:39,691 ♪ I like tall speakers ♪ 925 00:41:39,764 --> 00:41:41,027 - Hiya. - Hi. 926 00:41:41,099 --> 00:41:43,330 Day two of Campaign: Get a Life. 927 00:41:43,401 --> 00:41:45,336 You were talking about this Fun Day thing, 928 00:41:45,403 --> 00:41:48,430 and, uh, I thought it sounded like, well, fun. 929 00:41:48,506 --> 00:41:50,998 So I thought wouldn't it be cool if you were Crockett 930 00:41:51,075 --> 00:41:53,135 and I was Tubbs. 931 00:41:53,211 --> 00:41:54,388 Or is it the other way around? 932 00:41:54,412 --> 00:41:56,404 Look, Jeremy, I'm working. 933 00:41:56,481 --> 00:41:58,575 Oh. Oh, sorry. 934 00:41:58,649 --> 00:42:00,413 Um, I didn't mean to get in your way. 935 00:42:00,485 --> 00:42:02,010 I'm a bit rubbish at this. I'll go. 936 00:42:02,086 --> 00:42:02,849 No, no, no. 937 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,355 I'm getting on your nerves. I do it with everyone. 938 00:42:05,423 --> 00:42:06,857 No, no. You're fine. 939 00:42:06,924 --> 00:42:09,553 Look, there's someone I think you ought to meet. 940 00:42:11,829 --> 00:42:15,266 And it's all killer, no filler today. 941 00:42:15,333 --> 00:42:19,532 And remember, at Roxy, we're never gonna give you up. 942 00:42:19,604 --> 00:42:21,334 ♪ Never gonna give you up ♪ 943 00:42:21,406 --> 00:42:23,807 - Must be really nice for you. - What? 944 00:42:23,875 --> 00:42:26,743 - Working with your wife. - Yeah, it suits us. 945 00:42:26,811 --> 00:42:29,303 Oh! Could never have worked with any of mine. 946 00:42:29,380 --> 00:42:31,815 Not without it ending up coming to blows. 947 00:42:31,883 --> 00:42:34,114 We've had our moments. 948 00:42:34,185 --> 00:42:36,848 Yeah, that's right. You split up for awhile, didn't you? 949 00:42:36,921 --> 00:42:38,446 Yeah, it was a bit of a rough patch. 950 00:42:38,523 --> 00:42:39,991 I was working too hard. 951 00:42:40,058 --> 00:42:41,856 We didn't see enough of each other. 952 00:42:41,926 --> 00:42:44,828 - Is that all? - Well, isn't it enough? 953 00:42:44,896 --> 00:42:46,262 And here she is. 954 00:42:46,330 --> 00:42:48,526 And what can I do for you, my little chickadee? 955 00:42:50,034 --> 00:42:52,367 Barry wants to know what time you're starting the display. 956 00:42:52,437 --> 00:42:56,499 When it gets dark, dizzy daydream. 957 00:42:56,574 --> 00:42:57,633 What display? 958 00:42:57,708 --> 00:42:59,267 Fireworks. 959 00:42:59,343 --> 00:43:00,868 To music. It's brilliant. 960 00:43:00,945 --> 00:43:04,143 I've gone a bit edgy this year. "Two Tribes" by Frankie. 961 00:43:04,215 --> 00:43:06,013 You know, a little bit of politics. 962 00:43:06,084 --> 00:43:08,781 Do you mean you actually put together the firework display? 963 00:43:08,853 --> 00:43:09,853 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 964 00:43:09,921 --> 00:43:11,253 I took my firer's exams 965 00:43:11,322 --> 00:43:13,655 when I was doing the Radio 1 Roadshows. 966 00:43:13,724 --> 00:43:15,192 Johnny liked a bit of an entrance. 967 00:43:15,259 --> 00:43:17,387 Last year he did "Bohemian Rhapsody." 968 00:43:17,462 --> 00:43:18,794 It was amazing! 969 00:43:18,863 --> 00:43:21,697 I mean, just how everything went off in time with the music. 970 00:43:21,766 --> 00:43:23,234 I'll never be able to do that. 971 00:43:23,301 --> 00:43:24,633 Maybe one day. 972 00:43:24,702 --> 00:43:27,433 Sarah came on her refresher courses with me one year. 973 00:43:27,505 --> 00:43:29,531 She wasn't a natural, were you? 974 00:43:29,607 --> 00:43:31,166 I don't like the ones that bang. 975 00:43:32,410 --> 00:43:35,209 So how do you actually get them all to go off to the music? 976 00:43:35,279 --> 00:43:37,976 Just use the right fuses. 977 00:43:38,049 --> 00:43:39,449 Fuses? 978 00:43:39,517 --> 00:43:41,179 Yeah. Excuse me. 979 00:43:41,252 --> 00:43:44,882 And we have another request from our Fun Day funsters. 980 00:43:44,956 --> 00:43:49,291 It's "Tarzan Boy" by Baltimora. 981 00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:54,098 - Do you know this tune? - I love it. 982 00:43:54,165 --> 00:44:00,105 ♪ Oh oh-oh-oh-oh oh-oh-ohhhh ♪ 983 00:44:00,171 --> 00:44:03,164 Tarzan Girl. 984 00:44:03,241 --> 00:44:07,975 ♪ Oh oh-oh-oh-oh oh-oh-ohhhh ♪ 985 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,013 I think I'll follow this up with "Hi-Fidelity." 986 00:44:12,083 --> 00:44:14,143 Can't beat the Kids from Fame. 987 00:44:14,218 --> 00:44:16,710 Actually, I think that's gonna have to be your last track. 988 00:44:16,787 --> 00:44:17,948 What? 989 00:44:18,022 --> 00:44:19,490 You've got to come down the station. 990 00:44:19,557 --> 00:44:21,583 My boss wants to talk to you urgently. 991 00:44:21,659 --> 00:44:23,924 Why? He hasn't done anything. 992 00:44:23,995 --> 00:44:25,463 What's going on? 993 00:44:25,530 --> 00:44:26,759 It's all right, love. 994 00:44:26,831 --> 00:44:29,323 Look, I'm not leaving now. I'm on for another hour. 995 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,164 Graham, mate, you don't want to make a scene 996 00:44:31,235 --> 00:44:34,364 in front of all these nice people, do you? 997 00:44:34,438 --> 00:44:35,371 Brian. 998 00:44:35,439 --> 00:44:39,035 ♪ Beat that carries on ♪ 999 00:44:39,110 --> 00:44:40,669 ♪ Burning bright ♪ 1000 00:44:40,745 --> 00:44:43,442 ♪ A fire blows the signal to the sky ♪ 1001 00:44:43,514 --> 00:44:46,348 And I'll be signing off now, but I'll be leaving you 1002 00:44:46,417 --> 00:44:50,149 in the capable hands of Barry "The Kid" Johnson. 1003 00:44:50,221 --> 00:44:53,248 See you on the flip side. 1004 00:44:53,324 --> 00:44:54,587 Good boy. 1005 00:44:55,092 --> 00:44:57,561 Graham, it's gonna be okay. 1006 00:44:57,628 --> 00:44:59,859 I'm coming too! 1007 00:45:01,265 --> 00:45:05,669 You've been a certified pyrotechnist since 1985. 1008 00:45:05,736 --> 00:45:07,136 I told you that. 1009 00:45:07,205 --> 00:45:09,936 Meaning you had easy access to the kind of specialist fuse 1010 00:45:10,007 --> 00:45:11,839 that was used to burn down Roxy Radio. 1011 00:45:11,909 --> 00:45:14,538 Why would I burn down the place where I work, 1012 00:45:14,612 --> 00:45:17,241 the place that I'm fighting to keep open now? 1013 00:45:17,315 --> 00:45:19,875 That's a good question. 1014 00:45:19,951 --> 00:45:23,149 Tell us about yours and Sarah's separation. 1015 00:45:23,221 --> 00:45:24,519 There's nothing to tell. 1016 00:45:24,589 --> 00:45:26,558 It was a blip. She came back. 1017 00:45:26,624 --> 00:45:27,819 When was that? 1018 00:45:27,892 --> 00:45:31,260 I don't know. After the fire. 1019 00:45:31,329 --> 00:45:32,797 Why then? 1020 00:45:32,863 --> 00:45:34,525 So she could stand by me 1021 00:45:34,599 --> 00:45:37,034 through the most difficult time of my life. 1022 00:45:37,101 --> 00:45:38,592 That's what wives do. 1023 00:45:38,669 --> 00:45:40,581 Then why weren't you living together at the time? 1024 00:45:40,605 --> 00:45:43,200 It was nothing. 1025 00:45:43,274 --> 00:45:45,209 Cameron Wyatt offered me my own show. 1026 00:45:45,276 --> 00:45:47,268 The afternoon slot. I didn't want it. 1027 00:45:47,345 --> 00:45:48,345 Why not? 1028 00:45:48,412 --> 00:45:52,816 I told you. Johnny and I, we're a team. 1029 00:45:52,883 --> 00:45:55,785 So Johnny objected to you having your own show. 1030 00:45:55,853 --> 00:45:58,049 Especially in a less antisocial time slot. 1031 00:45:58,122 --> 00:46:00,523 I mean, you were a married man, after all. 1032 00:46:00,591 --> 00:46:03,220 Or was that something else he objected to as well? 1033 00:46:04,829 --> 00:46:08,163 He made you choose, didn't he? Between Sarah and him. 1034 00:46:08,232 --> 00:46:10,929 She must have been very hurt when you made your decision. 1035 00:46:11,002 --> 00:46:15,406 I'd known him such a long time. Couldn't just leave him. 1036 00:46:15,473 --> 00:46:17,251 But if you didn't, you were gonna lose your wife. 1037 00:46:17,275 --> 00:46:18,368 She didn't understand. 1038 00:46:18,442 --> 00:46:20,240 Johnny and I had been through a lot together. 1039 00:46:20,311 --> 00:46:22,678 Or was it that he had put you through a lot? 1040 00:46:22,747 --> 00:46:24,272 I don't understand. 1041 00:46:25,283 --> 00:46:26,512 The attack on Georgina 1042 00:46:26,584 --> 00:46:28,553 wasn't the first inappropriate act, was it? 1043 00:46:28,619 --> 00:46:30,053 Tell us about Milton Keynes. 1044 00:46:30,121 --> 00:46:31,953 Well, you seem to know everything. 1045 00:46:32,023 --> 00:46:33,023 You tell me. 1046 00:46:33,057 --> 00:46:35,788 Well, we do know everything. Now. 1047 00:46:35,860 --> 00:46:39,763 We know that Frank Bryant's daughter was only 15 years old. 1048 00:46:39,830 --> 00:46:42,732 Those were very different times. 1049 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,666 Age wasn't such big a deal. 1050 00:46:44,735 --> 00:46:47,227 I think it was. Especially the age of consent. 1051 00:46:47,305 --> 00:46:49,638 We didn't know that she was that young. 1052 00:46:49,707 --> 00:46:52,040 Didn't seem to bother her. She was just a groupie. 1053 00:46:53,744 --> 00:46:56,043 No, no, no, no. That came out wrong. 1054 00:46:56,113 --> 00:46:59,083 You see, the question I keep asking myself is, 1055 00:46:59,150 --> 00:47:01,312 how many other groupies were there? 1056 00:47:01,385 --> 00:47:04,412 How many other angry fathers did you have to deal with? 1057 00:47:04,488 --> 00:47:05,683 You don't understand. 1058 00:47:05,756 --> 00:47:07,657 No, no, I think we do. 1059 00:47:07,725 --> 00:47:11,787 I mean, you weren't just Johnny's friend and manager. 1060 00:47:11,862 --> 00:47:14,798 You were an accomplice to a sexual predator. 1061 00:47:14,865 --> 00:47:17,027 How does it go, eh? 1062 00:47:17,101 --> 00:47:19,297 What happens on tour stays on tour? 1063 00:47:19,370 --> 00:47:21,271 But then Georgina came along. 1064 00:47:21,339 --> 00:47:23,103 Bit close to home, that, wasn't it? 1065 00:47:23,174 --> 00:47:24,665 You really had to pull all the stops 1066 00:47:24,742 --> 00:47:25,982 to keep her out of the picture. 1067 00:47:26,010 --> 00:47:28,741 You even had to involve Cameron Wyatt. 1068 00:47:28,813 --> 00:47:30,145 Was that the last straw? 1069 00:47:30,214 --> 00:47:33,309 Was that when you finally decided Johnny had to go? 1070 00:47:38,255 --> 00:47:40,224 I think... 1071 00:47:41,592 --> 00:47:45,529 I need to speak to a solicitor now. 1072 00:47:45,596 --> 00:47:48,566 I really thought we were on for a full confession there. 1073 00:47:48,632 --> 00:47:50,794 Nah, but he knows we haven't got anything concrete. 1074 00:47:50,868 --> 00:47:52,200 It's all theory and no evidence. 1075 00:47:52,269 --> 00:47:53,897 Maybe that's because he didn't do it. 1076 00:47:56,507 --> 00:47:58,738 Tarzan Girl. 1077 00:47:58,809 --> 00:48:00,869 Sorry? 1078 00:48:00,945 --> 00:48:04,279 I think Johnny was being stalked by one of his listeners. 1079 00:48:04,348 --> 00:48:06,510 When she didn't get the attention she wanted, 1080 00:48:06,584 --> 00:48:08,177 she vandalized his car. 1081 00:48:08,252 --> 00:48:11,245 When that didn't work, she started playing with matches. 1082 00:48:11,322 --> 00:48:13,382 Don't tell me you want me to put out an APB 1083 00:48:13,457 --> 00:48:15,050 for Tarzan Girl, Brian. 1084 00:48:15,126 --> 00:48:16,492 No need. 1085 00:48:18,362 --> 00:48:20,695 You're on the air. What do you want to say? 1086 00:48:20,765 --> 00:48:22,358 Hi, Johnny! Love the show. 1087 00:48:22,433 --> 00:48:23,958 Thanks, love, but the topic is 1088 00:48:24,034 --> 00:48:26,299 whether teenagers should be given the morning-after pill 1089 00:48:26,370 --> 00:48:27,929 or made to face the consequences 1090 00:48:28,005 --> 00:48:29,029 of their bad behavior. 1091 00:48:29,106 --> 00:48:30,039 Yeah. 1092 00:48:30,107 --> 00:48:32,303 I was just wondering if you'd play a record for me. 1093 00:48:32,376 --> 00:48:35,073 "Tarzan Boy." Do you remember it, Johnny? 1094 00:48:37,915 --> 00:48:40,908 Never did remember, though, did he? 1095 00:48:40,985 --> 00:48:44,683 Now, back in '85, when that song was in the charts, 1096 00:48:44,755 --> 00:48:46,018 you would be, what, 15? 1097 00:48:46,090 --> 00:48:48,685 14. I was 14. 1098 00:48:48,759 --> 00:48:51,251 Was that how old you were when you met Johnny? 1099 00:48:51,328 --> 00:48:52,261 Yeah. 1100 00:48:52,329 --> 00:48:55,822 12th of August. The best day of my life. 1101 00:48:55,900 --> 00:48:58,020 That was the day I went to see "Top of the Pops" live. 1102 00:48:58,068 --> 00:49:00,162 - Sounds like fun. - Yeah, it was. 1103 00:49:00,237 --> 00:49:02,468 We were only in the crowd and right at the back, 1104 00:49:02,540 --> 00:49:05,408 and that's when Graham came up and started chatting to me. 1105 00:49:05,476 --> 00:49:07,342 I had a Johnny Deacon badge on, 1106 00:49:07,411 --> 00:49:09,971 and he asked me if I wanted to go backstage and meet him. 1107 00:49:10,047 --> 00:49:11,447 And did you? 1108 00:49:11,515 --> 00:49:13,848 Yeah. And I met Baltimora. 1109 00:49:13,918 --> 00:49:15,386 He was your favorite, wasn't he? 1110 00:49:15,453 --> 00:49:16,716 Oh, yeah. 1111 00:49:16,787 --> 00:49:21,282 Sharon, did, um... Did something happen that night? 1112 00:49:21,358 --> 00:49:24,260 Something you weren't ready for? 1113 00:49:25,930 --> 00:49:28,126 He said he had some new records back at his flat 1114 00:49:28,199 --> 00:49:29,292 that I might like. 1115 00:49:29,366 --> 00:49:32,393 He said it would be a nice thank-you. 1116 00:49:33,404 --> 00:49:35,873 He said I should be grateful 1117 00:49:35,940 --> 00:49:38,068 that he'd picked me out of all the other girls. 1118 00:49:38,142 --> 00:49:42,045 Afterwards, I was so bloody ashamed of myself. 1119 00:49:42,112 --> 00:49:43,444 I'd been so stupid. 1120 00:49:43,514 --> 00:49:45,710 It wasn't your fault. You were only 14. 1121 00:49:47,284 --> 00:49:49,879 So how did you end up at Roxy Radio? 1122 00:49:49,954 --> 00:49:52,753 I saw the ad in the paper and applied. 1123 00:49:52,823 --> 00:49:54,416 I thought if I was gonna be a cleaner, 1124 00:49:54,492 --> 00:49:57,052 I might as well be somewhere interesting. 1125 00:49:57,127 --> 00:49:59,619 I couldn't believe it when Johnny joined the station. 1126 00:49:59,697 --> 00:50:02,531 How was that? Seeing each other every day? 1127 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,069 I saw him, but he didn't see me. 1128 00:50:05,135 --> 00:50:06,501 I was just the cleaner. 1129 00:50:06,570 --> 00:50:09,335 Is that why you started calling in to the show? 1130 00:50:09,406 --> 00:50:10,499 Jog his memory? 1131 00:50:10,574 --> 00:50:12,440 Didn't work. 1132 00:50:12,510 --> 00:50:15,571 I needed to do something bigger. 1133 00:50:15,646 --> 00:50:17,706 Show him I wasn't just gonna be ignored. 1134 00:50:17,781 --> 00:50:19,647 You smashed Johnny's car up? 1135 00:50:19,717 --> 00:50:21,948 I don't know what got into me. 1136 00:50:22,019 --> 00:50:24,511 I mean, once I started, I couldn't stop. 1137 00:50:24,588 --> 00:50:25,828 I mean, what was wrong with me? 1138 00:50:25,856 --> 00:50:27,415 What did I do something like that for? 1139 00:50:27,491 --> 00:50:28,857 Because Johnny Deacon raped you. 1140 00:50:28,926 --> 00:50:30,622 No, he didn't. 1141 00:50:30,694 --> 00:50:33,289 Look, I know you went back to the flat. 1142 00:50:33,364 --> 00:50:35,356 But you... you were underage, you were vulnerable. 1143 00:50:35,432 --> 00:50:36,957 It wasn't Johnny. 1144 00:50:38,035 --> 00:50:39,799 It was Graham. 1145 00:50:41,405 --> 00:50:42,805 Graham? 1146 00:50:42,873 --> 00:50:44,466 Graham Madeley? 1147 00:50:44,542 --> 00:50:46,238 Yes. 1148 00:50:47,444 --> 00:50:49,379 Johnny would never do a thing like that. 1149 00:50:50,381 --> 00:50:54,045 But Graham, I think he'd done it before. 1150 00:50:55,052 --> 00:50:57,954 Is that why you started the fire at night? To kill Graham? 1151 00:50:58,022 --> 00:50:59,718 I didn't start the fire! 1152 00:50:59,790 --> 00:51:01,520 I'd never do anything to hurt Johnny. 1153 00:51:01,592 --> 00:51:04,528 I was trying to help him! 1154 00:51:04,595 --> 00:51:08,157 I knew he was trapped. I heard him screaming. 1155 00:51:08,232 --> 00:51:10,030 And then there was an explosion. 1156 00:51:10,100 --> 00:51:12,729 The fire brigade thinks it was something electrical. 1157 00:51:12,803 --> 00:51:15,238 And all I saw was a flash. 1158 00:51:16,907 --> 00:51:18,637 And it was the last thing I ever saw. 1159 00:51:19,643 --> 00:51:21,441 I'm sorry, Sharon. 1160 00:51:21,512 --> 00:51:23,640 And I should have been on my way home by then. 1161 00:51:23,714 --> 00:51:24,807 Why weren't you? 1162 00:51:24,882 --> 00:51:27,351 I was running late all night. 1163 00:51:27,418 --> 00:51:30,855 I had to wait to get my cleaning stuff. 1164 00:51:30,921 --> 00:51:33,083 There was someone in the ladies' when I got there. 1165 00:51:34,091 --> 00:51:35,218 How do you mean? 1166 00:51:35,292 --> 00:51:37,056 Well, there was no broom cupboard. 1167 00:51:37,127 --> 00:51:39,961 I had to store all my cleaning stuff in the ladies' loo. 1168 00:51:40,030 --> 00:51:43,125 - Who was in there? - I don't know. 1169 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,192 I knocked, and there was no answer. 1170 00:51:45,269 --> 00:51:46,931 And I just assumed it was that black girl. 1171 00:51:47,004 --> 00:51:48,973 Georgina? No, no, no. It couldn't have been. 1172 00:51:49,039 --> 00:51:52,373 At that time, you were the only woman working there. 1173 00:51:56,413 --> 00:51:58,177 Could have been anyone in the toilet. 1174 00:51:59,183 --> 00:52:00,183 You're right. 1175 00:52:00,250 --> 00:52:02,810 Could have been any woman who knew the security code 1176 00:52:02,886 --> 00:52:04,184 and had firework training. 1177 00:52:04,254 --> 00:52:05,415 Anyone at all. 1178 00:52:06,657 --> 00:52:09,491 Now, we can do this the hard way or the easy way. 1179 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,756 The hard way involves me and my officers 1180 00:52:11,829 --> 00:52:13,559 going through every report, every statement, 1181 00:52:13,631 --> 00:52:16,260 until we prove that you were there. 1182 00:52:16,333 --> 00:52:18,825 That option also involves me telling the jury at your trial 1183 00:52:18,902 --> 00:52:20,393 just how uncooperative you've been. 1184 00:52:23,707 --> 00:52:25,232 Or there's the easy way. 1185 00:52:25,309 --> 00:52:26,743 That's where you tell me everything. 1186 00:52:26,810 --> 00:52:28,278 And I do mean everything, Sarah. 1187 00:52:28,345 --> 00:52:29,278 I don't know what... 1188 00:52:29,346 --> 00:52:31,212 We know about Graham and the girls. 1189 00:52:31,281 --> 00:52:32,772 The young girls. 1190 00:52:32,850 --> 00:52:34,227 I don't know what you're getting at. 1191 00:52:34,251 --> 00:52:37,187 How old were you when Graham and you got together? 1192 00:52:37,254 --> 00:52:40,088 17. But I was very mature for my age. 1193 00:52:41,091 --> 00:52:42,354 Graham tell you that? 1194 00:52:42,426 --> 00:52:44,337 'Cause I bet that's what he told all the other girls. 1195 00:52:44,361 --> 00:52:45,454 What other girls? 1196 00:52:45,529 --> 00:52:47,498 There weren't any. Stop lying to me. 1197 00:52:47,564 --> 00:52:48,725 - Sarah... - No, no! 1198 00:52:48,799 --> 00:52:50,427 I don't want to listen to this. 1199 00:52:50,501 --> 00:52:52,436 I want Graham. I want to see him. 1200 00:52:52,503 --> 00:52:54,495 - Sit down, Sarah. - I want to see him now. 1201 00:52:54,571 --> 00:52:56,733 Okay, okay. You can see him. 1202 00:52:56,807 --> 00:52:59,641 But I want you to listen to something first. 1203 00:53:02,246 --> 00:53:04,357 He said he had some new records back at his flat 1204 00:53:04,381 --> 00:53:06,577 that I might like. 1205 00:53:06,650 --> 00:53:09,677 He said it would be a nice thank-you. 1206 00:53:11,255 --> 00:53:13,724 He said I should be grateful 1207 00:53:13,791 --> 00:53:16,226 that he'd picked me out of all the other girls. 1208 00:53:17,227 --> 00:53:20,595 Afterwards, I was so bloody ashamed of myself. 1209 00:53:20,664 --> 00:53:22,030 I'd been so stupid. 1210 00:53:22,099 --> 00:53:23,579 It wasn't your... 1211 00:53:24,668 --> 00:53:26,432 Still want to see Graham? 1212 00:53:29,006 --> 00:53:32,340 Johnny's car up. 1213 00:53:32,409 --> 00:53:34,640 I didn't know I had it in me. 1214 00:53:34,712 --> 00:53:36,578 Once I started, I just couldn't stop. 1215 00:53:36,647 --> 00:53:38,411 I mean, what did I do that for? 1216 00:53:38,482 --> 00:53:39,506 What was wrong with me? 1217 00:53:39,583 --> 00:53:41,518 Because Johnny Deacon raped you. 1218 00:53:41,585 --> 00:53:43,281 No, he didn't. 1219 00:53:43,353 --> 00:53:45,131 Look, I know you went back to his flat. 1220 00:53:45,155 --> 00:53:46,851 But you were underage, you were vulnerable. 1221 00:53:46,924 --> 00:53:48,449 It wasn't Johnny. 1222 00:53:49,827 --> 00:53:50,988 It was Graham. 1223 00:54:01,004 --> 00:54:03,906 813. Yeah, I've got a lift home. 1224 00:54:03,974 --> 00:54:05,151 You did the right thing, Sarah. 1225 00:54:05,175 --> 00:54:06,609 A confession always goes down better 1226 00:54:06,677 --> 00:54:07,797 when it comes to sentencing. 1227 00:54:07,845 --> 00:54:09,279 So you said. 1228 00:54:11,849 --> 00:54:13,715 Sarah. 1229 00:54:14,818 --> 00:54:17,185 Darling. 1230 00:54:17,254 --> 00:54:19,120 Sarah? 1231 00:54:25,963 --> 00:54:29,866 Not strictly procedural, but bloody effective. 1232 00:54:29,933 --> 00:54:31,663 I'm sorry. You were saying? 1233 00:54:31,735 --> 00:54:33,203 Nothing, sir. 1234 00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:34,397 No, go on. 1235 00:54:34,471 --> 00:54:37,066 I'm interested in anything you have to say about procedure, 1236 00:54:37,141 --> 00:54:39,235 considering how it's been ignored around here. 1237 00:54:39,309 --> 00:54:41,175 I'm not sure I understand, sir. 1238 00:54:41,245 --> 00:54:43,476 An illegal mobile-phone trace? 1239 00:54:43,547 --> 00:54:46,244 An even more illegal credit-card search? 1240 00:54:46,316 --> 00:54:47,875 Neither of them fruitful. 1241 00:54:47,951 --> 00:54:49,431 Which suggests to me that Jack Halford 1242 00:54:49,486 --> 00:54:50,419 doesn't want to be found. 1243 00:54:50,487 --> 00:54:51,978 Which is his prerogative, 1244 00:54:52,055 --> 00:54:53,546 considering he's no longer an employee 1245 00:54:53,624 --> 00:54:54,704 of the Metropolitan Police. 1246 00:54:54,758 --> 00:54:56,249 Since when? 1247 00:54:56,326 --> 00:54:58,921 Since he walked out of here without a backward glance. 1248 00:54:58,996 --> 00:55:00,294 Look, this is ridiculous. 1249 00:55:00,364 --> 00:55:03,232 I will not have this department held to ransom. 1250 00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:04,825 It's time to move on. 1251 00:55:04,902 --> 00:55:07,167 Quite right, sir. 1252 00:55:07,237 --> 00:55:09,536 You'll get my resignation in the morning. 1253 00:55:09,606 --> 00:55:11,131 - What? - Fine. 1254 00:55:11,208 --> 00:55:13,439 We'll interview for yours and Jack's replacements. 1255 00:55:13,510 --> 00:55:16,878 Oh, I'm sorry, was this supposed to show me the error of my ways, 1256 00:55:16,947 --> 00:55:18,848 prove to me how indispensable Jack really is? 1257 00:55:18,916 --> 00:55:20,026 Well, let me tell you this... 1258 00:55:20,050 --> 00:55:21,882 No one in this department is indispensable. 1259 00:55:21,952 --> 00:55:23,648 Do I make myself clear? 1260 00:55:23,720 --> 00:55:25,655 Crystal, sir. 1261 00:55:25,722 --> 00:55:26,815 So would you prefer 1262 00:55:26,890 --> 00:55:28,791 my application for a transfer in writing, 1263 00:55:28,859 --> 00:55:30,987 or will an e-mail do? 1264 00:55:31,061 --> 00:55:33,792 Don't be a bloody fool, Sandra. 1265 00:55:35,999 --> 00:55:37,558 Well, don't expect a reference. 1266 00:55:42,606 --> 00:55:44,802 That could have gone better. 1267 00:55:44,875 --> 00:55:47,276 No, it was pretty impressive from where I stood. 1268 00:55:47,344 --> 00:55:49,973 Should buy Jack a bit more time, shouldn't it? 1269 00:55:50,047 --> 00:55:52,016 - Hope so. - Hope? 1270 00:55:52,983 --> 00:55:55,248 Of course he's coming back. 1271 00:55:55,319 --> 00:55:58,016 There was no need for you to fall on your swords! 1272 00:55:58,088 --> 00:56:00,922 Bloody stupid. 1273 00:56:00,991 --> 00:56:02,653 What if Strickland meant it? 1274 00:56:02,726 --> 00:56:04,319 Well, what if he did? 1275 00:56:04,394 --> 00:56:05,453 What are you saying? 1276 00:56:05,529 --> 00:56:07,225 Look, I'm only talking for myself, 1277 00:56:07,297 --> 00:56:08,993 but if Jack doesn't come back... 1278 00:56:09,066 --> 00:56:11,262 Jack is coming back! 1279 00:56:11,335 --> 00:56:13,065 How many times?! 1280 00:56:13,136 --> 00:56:17,096 Brian, I don't think he is. 1281 00:56:18,675 --> 00:56:22,339 Look, we've had a good run. We've solved a few cases. 1282 00:56:22,412 --> 00:56:25,075 Maybe it is time to move on. 1283 00:56:27,050 --> 00:56:30,248 Yeah, well, that's all well and good. 1284 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,484 At least it is if you've got somewhere to move on to. 1285 00:56:35,058 --> 00:56:36,526 Brian. 1286 00:56:57,347 --> 00:56:58,815 Jack? 1287 00:57:02,953 --> 00:57:04,046 Jack? 1288 00:57:43,660 --> 00:57:45,322 Oh, Mary. 1289 00:57:45,395 --> 00:57:47,125 Where is he? 1290 00:57:57,007 --> 00:58:00,409 Oh, no. Oh, no. 1291 00:58:00,477 --> 00:58:01,638 I'm not having this. 1292 00:58:05,949 --> 00:58:08,384 ♪ It's all right, it's okay ♪ 1293 00:58:08,452 --> 00:58:11,354 ♪ Doesn't really matter if you're old and gray ♪ 1294 00:58:11,421 --> 00:58:13,890 ♪ It's all right, I say it's okay ♪ 1295 00:58:13,957 --> 00:58:16,722 ♪ Listen to what I say ♪ 1296 00:58:16,793 --> 00:58:19,422 ♪ It's all right, doing fine ♪ 1297 00:58:19,496 --> 00:58:22,125 ♪ Doesn't really matter if the sun don't shine ♪ 1298 00:58:22,199 --> 00:58:24,998 ♪ It's all right, I say it's okay ♪ 1299 00:58:25,068 --> 00:58:27,799 ♪ We're getting to the end of the day ♪ 1300 00:58:27,871 --> 00:58:30,864 Subtitling made possible by Acorn Media 97848

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