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Zulu
An Airbus heading from Paris to Cairo disappears
over the Mediterranean.
over the Mediterranean.
A plane with some 58 passengers on board
has gone missing.
It is EgyptAir Flight 804.
It is EgyptAir Flight 804.
Flight data show a disturbing scenario.
And then they started spiraling.
What is going on in this cockpit?
What is going on in this cockpit?
The cockpit voice recorder,
found deep on the sea floor, reveals a horrifying detail.
found deep on the sea floor, reveals a horrifying detail.
There's a fire.
It has to be one of the worst things that could happen.
It has to be one of the worst things that could happen.
A shocked world demands answers.
A shocked world demands answers.
We owe it to the traveling public.
We owe it to the victims' families.
We owe it to the victims' families.
The accident investigation stalls.
Then six years later, an Italian journalist reports
an astonishing new theory.
The people need to know the truth.
Ladies and gentlemen, we are starting our approach.
We lost both engines.
We lost both engines.
Mayday, mayday.
Brace for impact!
I think I lost one.
I think I lost one.
It's going to crash!
A late night flight to Cairo cruises
A late night flight to Cairo cruises
at 37,000 feet over Greece.
Radar check.
Radar check.
Looks clear.
Thank you, Captain.
I like the way that sounds.
I like the way that sounds.
Mohammed Shoqeir is in command of tonight's flight.
Mohammed Shoqeir is in command of tonight's flight.
With more than 6,000 hours of flying time,
he's just been promoted to captain.
he's just been promoted to captain.
The initial upgrade to captain,
it's a real pinnacle event for an aviator.
It's something you work years to attain.
Winds are as forecast.
No deviation.
No deviation.
First Officer Mohamed Assem
has 2,700 hours of flying time.
He too is an ambitious pilot.
Being a pilot in Egypt is one of the most prestigious jobs
Being a pilot in Egypt is one of the most prestigious jobs
in Northern Africa.
Hi, there.
Hi, there.
Could I have a cup of coffee up here?
Make that two, please.
Make that two, please.
Make that two, please.
This was routine flight.
This was a normal crew.
Both pilots were very well trained and experienced.
Both pilots were very well trained and experienced.
The pilots fly for EgyptAir,
The pilots fly for EgyptAir,
the state-owned flagship carrier of Egypt.
EgyptAir is one of the best airlines in Africa
EgyptAir is one of the best airlines in Africa
and one of the oldest airlines in the world.
and one of the oldest airlines in the world.
Flight 804 is 2 and 1/2 hours into its journey
from Paris to Cairo.
from Paris to Cairo.
The pilots are flying an Airbus A320.
The A320 is one of the more modern fly-by-wire
The A320 is one of the more modern fly-by-wire
computer-enhanced airplanes.
It's an extremely reliable veteran
It's an extremely reliable veteran
workhorse in the commercial aviation industry.
On board the plane tonight are
On board the plane tonight are
56 international passengers...
Egyptian, French, British, and Canadian.
The five-person cabin crew has a quieter night than usual.
The plane is only half full.
The plane is only half full.
Hello, hello.
EgyptAir Flight 804.
EgyptAir Flight 804.
Flight level 370.
Squawk number 7624.
Squawk number 7624.
Captain Shoqeir updates controllers
on the flight's progress.
EgyptAir 804, radar contact.
EgyptAir 804, radar contact.
Thank you very much.
EgyptAir 804, maintain flight level 370 and current heading.
EgyptAir 804, maintain flight level 370 and current heading.
Greek controllers oversee the airspace
Greek controllers oversee the airspace
Flight 804 is flying through.
Maintain 370 and current heading.
Maintain 370 and current heading.
How's the coffee?
How's the coffee?
Strong.
Just what I need.
One of the challenges when you're flying what they call
One of the challenges when you're flying what they call
the backside of the clock...
the technical term is a circadian low...
the technical term is a circadian low...
and this is when your body normally would be asleep,
but you're having to press it because you're on duty.
but you're having to press it because you're on duty.
EgyptAir 804, contact Cairo Center now on 125.300.
EgyptAir 804, contact Cairo Center now on 125.300.
As Flight 804 leaves Greek airspace,
As Flight 804 leaves Greek airspace,
the controller hands it off to Egyptian Control.
But the pilots don't acknowledge the instruction.
The fact that they missed the call, understandable.
The fact that they missed the call, understandable.
Perhaps they were in conversation
and just missed it.
and just missed it.
EgyptAir 804, contact Cairo Center, 125.300.
EgyptAir 804, contact Cairo Center, 125.300.
After a second call, the controller
waits for confirmation from the pilots.
There's still no reply.
After the second or third call, that becomes unusual.
After the second or third call, that becomes unusual.
Something's wrong here.
Then Flight 804 disappears from radar.
Then Flight 804 disappears from radar.
Cairo, have you made contact with 804?
Cairo, have you made contact with 804?
No.
And we don't have them on radar either.
And we don't have them on radar either.
As the minutes tick by,
there's no word from the pilots.
Flight 804 doesn't arrive in Cairo.
Flight 804 doesn't arrive in Cairo.
Normally, crashes occur during takeoff, during landing.
Normally, crashes occur during takeoff, during landing.
Somebody runs into a mountain.
But at 37,000 feet, not a lot of things that can go wrong.
But at 37,000 feet, not a lot of things that can go wrong.
So in that particular case, that was a bit of a mystery.
So in that particular case, that was a bit of a mystery.
As day breaks, Egyptian, French,
and Greek ships and aircraft search for the plane
and Greek ships and aircraft search for the plane
north of the Egyptian coast.
So here is the breaking news tonight.
A plane that reportedly has some 58 passengers on board
A plane that reportedly has some 58 passengers on board
has gone missing.
A plane with some 58 passengers on board has gone missing.
It is EgyptAir Flight 804.
It is EgyptAir Flight 804.
It was en route from Paris to Cairo.
It was en route from Paris to Cairo.
Families gather at Cairo Airport, hoping for news.
One day after Flight 804 disappears, search teams
find debris from the plane.
Around the same time the aircraft
went down, in Europe, we faced a lot of terrorist attack
went down, in Europe, we faced a lot of terrorist attack
in France, in Belgium, and in other parts.
in France, in Belgium, and in other parts.
I thought that this could be a terrorist attack.
The question inevitably being asked here in Paris
The question inevitably being asked here in Paris
is whether or not the plane was sabotaged.
Any survivors?
Any survivors?
None have been found.
An investigation into the crash of Flight 804
is launched.
is launched.
66 people are feared dead.
And time is running out.
And time is running out.
Leading the inquiry is the Egyptian Civil Aviation
Authority investigation directorate.
The Bureau will do whatever it can to assist.
France's Bureau of Investigation and Analysis
France's Bureau of Investigation and Analysis
for Civil Aviation Safety...
the BEA... assists.
the BEA... assists.
The A320 is built in Europe, and French nationals were on board.
What do we know so far?
Very little, I'm afraid.
Very little, I'm afraid.
It was at cruise, and then it was gone.
It's a worldwide news event, and so the pressure is on.
It's a worldwide news event, and so the pressure is on.
And as an investigator, you have to say,
And as an investigator, you have to say,
no, we're going to do this methodically and properly.
The current and tide could scatter
The current and tide could scatter
debris hundreds of kilometers from the point of impact.
But satellite images show an oil slick on the water.
But satellite images show an oil slick on the water.
If you find an oil slick, there
is a high likelihood that the airplane impacted
is a high likelihood that the airplane impacted
the water in this area.
The more you can narrow the search down,
The more you can narrow the search down,
the higher the likelihood you'll find
the wreckage on the sea floor.
Hopefully, the ROVs will find it soon.
The oil slick covers waters 3,000 meters,
The oil slick covers waters 3,000 meters,
or nearly 10,000 feet, deep.
Exploration at such depth demands sophisticated undersea
Exploration at such depth demands sophisticated undersea
technology and expertise.
Anything?
Anything?
BEA investigators lead an advance
dive team in the hunt for the wreckage of Flight 804.
dive team in the hunt for the wreckage of Flight 804.
Their ships are equipped with sonar
units capable of detecting the signals from black boxes.
units capable of detecting the signals from black boxes.
Underwater searches actually have
a good side and a bad side.
a good side and a bad side.
They kind of slow things down and allow
investigators to kind of get their act together a bit.
investigators to kind of get their act together a bit.
It allows them to accept wreckage
gradually rather than in a big pile, and that's a good thing.
gradually rather than in a big pile, and that's a good thing.
Other than that, on the bad side, it takes a long time.
Other than that, on the bad side, it takes a long time.
Did you pick up on anything unusual?
As the search for the plane continues,
the investigation onshore gains pace.
the investigation onshore gains pace.
They were passing through Greek airspace.
EgyptAir 804, maintain flight level 370 and current heading.
EgyptAir 804, maintain flight level 370 and current heading.
Can the Greek controller
Can the Greek controller
who last spoke to the crew provide
investigators with any clues?
investigators with any clues?
In the early days of any investigation,
you want to interview the air traffic controller.
you want to interview the air traffic controller.
Did the crew make any ATC communications
advising that they had a mechanical problem?
advising that they had a mechanical problem?
Maintain 370 and current heading.
He spoke to us in Greek.
He sounded very relaxed.
It was all very routine.
Any emergency calls?
No.
None.
None.
There had been a conversation between the aircraft
and the Greek traffic control only moments
before this event took place.
before this event took place.
It's completely inexplicable as to why communication
would suddenly stop.
would suddenly stop.
Investigators don't know if there
is a malfunction or something more sinister,
like an act of terrorism.
like an act of terrorism.
This should fill in some gaps.
This should fill in some gaps.
Using radar and satellite data,
investigators reconstruct the plane's flight
path after contact was lost.
path after contact was lost.
It's making a left turn.
Now it's making a right turn.
Now it's making a right turn.
They're dropping altitude fast.
After a sudden left turn,
Flight 804 spirals downwards until it hits the sea.
Flight 804 spirals downwards until it hits the sea.
If you have a problem, you want to get towards an airport
If you have a problem, you want to get towards an airport
so you would not want to circle on your way down.
Maybe.
Maybe.
But he'd have time to tell the ATC.
The flight path of EgyptAir Flight 804
raises some troubling questions.
raises some troubling questions.
A spiral descent is what will eventually
happen to an airplane if it's completely
happen to an airplane if it's completely
left alone by the pilots and not controlled by an autopilot.
left alone by the pilots and not controlled by an autopilot.
Did something prevent the pilots from operating
the plane's controls?
Investigators hang their hopes on the recovery
Investigators hang their hopes on the recovery
of the black boxes from the wreckage.
But what remains of the plane is somewhere 3,000 meters, or
But what remains of the plane is somewhere 3,000 meters, or
nearly 10,000 feet, underwater.
3,000 meters of water is a very, very challenging
3,000 meters of water is a very, very challenging
environment, under immense pressure.
A surface vessel uses hydrophones to scan the sea
A surface vessel uses hydrophones to scan the sea
for a specific frequency being transmitted
or pinged by the black boxes.
or pinged by the black boxes.
If the transmitter is not buried in either wreckage
If the transmitter is not buried in either wreckage
or in the sea floor, you can pick it up from a pretty good
distance out.
It's a race against time.
It's a race against time.
The pingers and the black boxes only have battery
power to transmit for 30 days.
power to transmit for 30 days.
Look.
Is that it?
Is that it?
Two weeks into the search, investigators
track a frequency that matches the pingers.
track a frequency that matches the pingers.
That's gotta be it.
The team deploys a remotely-operated submarine
The team deploys a remotely-operated submarine
equipped with cameras and robotic arms
to confirm the find.
to confirm the find.
Technicians control the submarine through a tether
that extends from the ship.
OK.
It should be right there.
It should be right there.
Here's the plane.
Here's the plane.
They find the wreckage but now must
locate the flight recorders.
They're looking for the flight data
They're looking for the flight data
and cockpit voice recorders.
Those are our key pieces of evidence
Those are our key pieces of evidence
in the investigative process.
OK, slowly.
Slowly.
I see it... there.
Using the submarine's robotic arms,
Using the submarine's robotic arms,
the team extracts the black boxes.
These things are gold to an investigator.
And to be able to go down that deep, and in those cold,
And to be able to go down that deep, and in those cold,
frigid, dark waters, and pick things out selectively?
frigid, dark waters, and pick things out selectively?
That's magic.
Here's what they found so far.
Here's what they found so far.
While black box data is recovered,
investigators in Egypt review the debris field
investigators in Egypt review the debris field
mapped from underwater footage.
It looks like a fairly contained area.
It looks like a fairly contained area.
It doesn't seem like the plane exploded.
If it came apart midair, the debris would
be scattered further apart.
be scattered further apart.
The destruction of the plane
likely occurred on impact with the water,
likely occurred on impact with the water,
not while in the air.
So the plane was intact through a 37,000-feet descent.
So the plane was intact through a 37,000-feet descent.
That's a long time.
That's a long time.
Why didn't the pilots tell the controllers what was going on?
There's a saying in aviation.
There's a saying in aviation.
During an emergency, you need to first aviate,
and then you navigate, and lastly, you communicate.
and then you navigate, and lastly, you communicate.
The cockpit voice recorder should help.
Investigators wonder what was happening
in the cockpit of EgyptAir Flight 804 in the minutes
before it crashed.
There have been a couple of cases
where pilots have deliberately done something
where pilots have deliberately done something
to cause the aircraft to crash and to achieve
their own suicide by it.
their own suicide by it.
Just 10 months earlier,
a pilot on a Germanwings Airbus deliberately crashed
a pilot on a Germanwings Airbus deliberately crashed
into the French Alps, killing 150 people.
But this didn't look like one of those.
But this didn't look like one of those.
It really looked as if the aircraft was out of control.
It really looked as if the aircraft was out of control.
The question then is, why on Earth
was it from normal, regular flight suddenly out of control?
was it from normal, regular flight suddenly out of control?
We've got data.
We've got data.
It's from EgyptAir.
Airbus and EgyptAir provide a source of evidence.
Airbus and EgyptAir provide a source of evidence.
What are they saying?
They were a bunch of ACARS messages.
They were a bunch of ACARS messages.
A digital data link system
called ACARS sends short messages
from the aircraft to ground stations via satellite.
from the aircraft to ground stations via satellite.
The ACARS messages are one thing that the investigators
will go look at early because they know
will go look at early because they know
the airplane is transmitting.
Is there anything unusual in those transmissions?
Is there anything unusual in those transmissions?
11 messages in total.
From EgyptAir, the investigating team
From EgyptAir, the investigating team
receives the full list of ACARS transmissions from Flight 804.
receives the full list of ACARS transmissions from Flight 804.
It looks like the first four messages are minor maintenance
It looks like the first four messages are minor maintenance
messages during engine startup.
But these seven messages occurred
within a 3-minute time span.
within a 3-minute time span.
What's that?
Default messages reveal a crew confronted
by a series of warnings 3 hours and 17 minutes into the flight.
by a series of warnings 3 hours and 17 minutes into the flight.
"Anti-ice, right window."
It starts on the right side of the plane with the right
It starts on the right side of the plane with the right
window anti-ice system.
What's going on over there?
What's going on over there?
I don't see anything.
The second message is from the right side windows too.
The second message is from the right side windows too.
The first two ACARS messages tell investigators
that there was a problem with the windshield panels
that there was a problem with the windshield panels
on the cockpit's right side.
The sensor in the sliding window
The sensor in the sliding window
is primarily to determine the temperature of the window
so that the heating elements can maintain
so that the heating elements can maintain
the desired temperature.
Check out this third warning.
"Smoke in a lavatory."
"Smoke in a lavatory."
There's smoke in the avionics bay as well.
We've got trouble.
Something's wrong.
Something's wrong.
Critical computers are located in the avionics bay.
Smoke in the avionics bay, that can
Smoke in the avionics bay, that can
get you in trouble real quick.
Just 2 minutes after the smoke warnings,
the pilots discover that their primary flight
the pilots discover that their primary flight
controls are failing.
We've got an SEC problem.
The SEC computer manages the spoilers
and elevators which move up and down to change
and elevators which move up and down to change
the plane's pitch and roll.
If the crew knew this, there is yet another piece
If the crew knew this, there is yet another piece
of evidence that there's something seriously
wrong in the avionics bay.
wrong in the avionics bay.
If they are losing flight controls,
that could explain the slow spiraling descent.
that could explain the slow spiraling descent.
Let us move to the backup.
The A320 flight control system was designed so
The A320 flight control system was designed so
that if one system failed, the backup system
would still operate.
would still operate.
If one fails, fails totally, the other system
will give them enough control to get the aircraft back to base.
will give them enough control to get the aircraft back to base.
There aren't any warnings on the other flight control
computers.
computers.
The ACARS messages tell investigators
Flight 804 was in serious trouble in the final minutes
Flight 804 was in serious trouble in the final minutes
before it crashed.
All pointing to one thing.
There's a fire at the front of the plane.
There's a fire at the front of the plane.
There's nothing that could happen on an airplane that is
more chilling and more dangerous than fire on board
more chilling and more dangerous than fire on board
because fires can spread very rapidly,
because fires can spread very rapidly,
and they can do tremendous damage to control systems.
and they can do tremendous damage to control systems.
After analyzing the ACARS warnings,
the investigators grapple with the devastating
implications of the discovery.
implications of the discovery.
Maybe they're too busy fighting the fire
to call air traffic control.
to call air traffic control.
You must get the fire out quickly.
You just cannot allow it to spread.
The investigators want to discover
exactly where it started.
exactly where it started.
The whole reason for the investigation
is to prevent this happening again.
All right, let's have a listen.
All right, let's have a listen.
When cockpit voice data retrieved from the sea
floor arrives in Egypt, investigators listen
floor arrives in Egypt, investigators listen
for information about the fire.
GREEK CONTROLLER (ON RECORDING): Egypt 804,
maintain flight level 370 and current heading.
maintain flight level 370 and current heading.
CAPTAIN SHOQEIR (ON RECORDING): Maintain 370
and current heading.
The BEA helped the Egyptians by downloading the data.
The BEA helped the Egyptians by downloading the data.
But then the BEA had to hand the cockpit voice
But then the BEA had to hand the cockpit voice
recorder over to the Egyptians.
CAPTAIN SHOQEIR (ON RECORDING):
There's a fire.
There's a fire.
The crew's statement of the word "fire"
The crew's statement of the word "fire"
indicates that they have evidence, hard evidence,
that there is a real-time fire that they need to contend with.
that there is a real-time fire that they need to contend with.
Thank you.
After listening to the CVR,
the Egyptian investigators report
the Egyptian investigators report
their findings to France's Bureau of Investigation
and Analysis, or BEA.
and Analysis, or BEA.
I'm afraid our suspicions have been confirmed.
The pilots are on the recording, saying there's a fire on board.
The pilots are on the recording, saying there's a fire on board.
Any idea where it started?
It's spreading.
Where's it coming from?
I don't know.
I don't know.
No, there's no indications.
No, there's no indications.
Well, we'll have to find out another way.
When are you coming back?
When are you coming back?
I'm sorry, I need to stay in Cairo.
Why was there a fire?
The crew states the word "fire."
The crew states the word "fire."
Why?
Where?
Seven months into the international investigation
Seven months into the international investigation
aided by the BEA, the Egyptian government
suddenly releases a statement to the media.
suddenly releases a statement to the media.
Come on.
The Egyptians believe that this was some form of sabotage
The Egyptians believe that this was some form of sabotage
involving an explosive.
The Egyptian government
believes an act of terrorism may have brought
believes an act of terrorism may have brought
down EgyptAir Flight 804.
By law, the investigation is handed over
By law, the investigation is handed over
to Egypt's state's prosecutor.
It's out of my hands.
You must understand.
You must understand.
The Egyptian authorities advance the theory that there
was an explosion on board.
was an explosion on board.
That is certainly something to be considered,
but you provide the evidence for everyone to see.
but you provide the evidence for everyone to see.
Can we see your forensic report?
Can we see your forensic report?
The case is with state investigators now.
I'm sorry.
There's too much room for error here.
There's too much room for error here.
Are you sure it's not a false positive?
The tests are conclusive.
The tests are conclusive.
The BEA and Airbus tried their best, say, hey,
we're here to help, we're here to help, we're here to help.
we're here to help, we're here to help, we're here to help.
And they were ignored.
OK.
To say, well, we have evidence,
To say, well, we have evidence,
and we're not going to discuss it any further,
flies in the face of the International Civil Aviation
flies in the face of the International Civil Aviation
Organization agreements that have been
made by countries worldwide.
made by countries worldwide.
In Milan, Italy, aviation journalist Leo Berberi
In Milan, Italy, aviation journalist Leo Berberi
follows the case closely.
The Egyptian investigators started
The Egyptian investigators started
talking about an explosion aboard as a result
of a terrorist attack.
of a terrorist attack.
And when asked to provide proof, they didn't provide any,
and that was welcomed with a lot of skepticism
and that was welcomed with a lot of skepticism
from the aviation community.
Are there chemical residue that is
consistent with an explosive?
If it had been a bomb, nobody claimed responsibility.
If it had been a bomb, nobody claimed responsibility.
That makes the entire exercise of bombing an aircraft pretty
That makes the entire exercise of bombing an aircraft pretty
damn useless.
Ah.
Ah.
Our own forensics are in.
Their accident investigators from France's BEA
independently look into the terrorism theory.
independently look into the terrorism theory.
They test materials from the crash for explosive residue.
They test materials from the crash for explosive residue.
Negative for traces of explosive.
They can't find any evidence
They can't find any evidence
to support the bomb theory.
The information they had denied what the Egyptians were
The information they had denied what the Egyptians were
suddenly claiming.
There's gotta be a connection here.
There's gotta be a connection here.
Unconvinced by the Egyptian government's bomb
theory, BEA investigators hunt for the source
theory, BEA investigators hunt for the source
of a fire they're certain ripped through Flight 804.
of a fire they're certain ripped through Flight 804.
There's a fire.
The right window heating element is first.
The right window heating element is first.
They look for a pattern in the ACARS messages
to explain the cause of the fire.
to explain the cause of the fire.
There has to be something in common,
and that's the big question.
What could trigger this?
What could trigger this?
Then smoke in the lavatory and avionics bay.
It's moving from front to back.
It's moving from front to back.
The order matters in that you may be able to say the fire
is increasing.
is increasing.
It's also propagating, it's moving,
so it's affecting different parts of the airplane.
so it's affecting different parts of the airplane.
The last warning the ACARS system processed
had to do with a flight control problem.
That was a very serious one.
That was a very serious one.
Everything seemed to kind of center
in on the avionics compartment.
in on the avionics compartment.
The avionics bay is packed with wiring.
Maybe some wires sparked and ignited.
Maybe some wires sparked and ignited.
The A320, like a lot of modern jets,
The A320, like a lot of modern jets,
is a fly-by-wire airplane, so the computers actually control
is a fly-by-wire airplane, so the computers actually control
the flight control position.
If you were to lose all electricity in the airplane,
If you were to lose all electricity in the airplane,
maintaining control becomes very, very challenging.
My belief was that this was an avionics bay fire.
My belief was that this was an avionics bay fire.
The smoke penetrated probably via the floor
or the floor panels, penetrated into the forward lavatory.
or the floor panels, penetrated into the forward lavatory.
Did faulty wiring in the avionics bay
Did faulty wiring in the avionics bay
ignite a fire on board?
It sounds like Swissair 111.
It sounds like Swissair 111.
On Swissair 111, arcing in the wiring
On Swissair 111, arcing in the wiring
of the plane's entertainment system
was identified as the source of a tragic fire
that killed 229 people.
that killed 229 people.
As soon as I heard about the ACARS messages
about smoke in the avionics bay, I immediately
about smoke in the avionics bay, I immediately
thought of Swissair 111.
thought of Swissair 111.
Did an electrical fire start in the avionics bay
on board EgyptAir Flight 804?
on board EgyptAir Flight 804?
A fire can happen on board any aircraft.
A fire can happen on board any aircraft.
They can be caused by a variety of things,
but very often, they're triggered by some kind
but very often, they're triggered by some kind
of an electrical fault.
If there was faulty wiring on an A320 that
crashed into the Mediterranean, it
crashed into the Mediterranean, it
would have grave repercussions.
If that were the cause, you can inspect the rest
If that were the cause, you can inspect the rest
of the fleet and make sure that the same chafing is not
happening in the rest of the fleet.
happening in the rest of the fleet.
But without the assistance of the Egyptian
Civil Aviation Ministry, there's no way to determine
Civil Aviation Ministry, there's no way to determine
the cause of the fire.
The BEA's investigation stalls due to lack of evidence.
The BEA's investigation stalls due to lack of evidence.
It's really vital to have a final report
It's really vital to have a final report
because that's the only way to improve aviation to avoid
making the same mistakes.
making the same mistakes.
More than six years after the crash of Flight 804,
there's still no official report or conclusion to Egypt's
criminal investigation.
Pronto.
Pronto.
In March of 2022, aviation journalist
Leo Berberi gets a huge scoop.
Leo Berberi gets a huge scoop.
After years that I was harassing people
involved directly in the investigation,
involved directly in the investigation,
someone in France had some news for me about that flight.
someone in France had some news for me about that flight.
I'll meet you there.
Sera meets a trusted source who offers
Sera meets a trusted source who offers
another explanation for the crash of EgyptAir Flight 804.
We met, and the person handed me the document.
We met, and the person handed me the document.
Berberi learns from the confidential source details
of an investigation launched by the French judiciary, staffed
of an investigation launched by the French judiciary, staffed
with a team of technical experts appointed to analyze
the available evidence.
the available evidence.
The French judiciary involved five experts in aviation
and in accidents, probably some of the best in the world,
and in accidents, probably some of the best in the world,
and handed them all the documents, all the data
and handed them all the documents, all the data
they had about that flight.
The aim is to determine
if the accident constituted involuntary manslaughter.
if the accident constituted involuntary manslaughter.
The French government started the investigation in Paris
because there were French citizens among the victims
because there were French citizens among the victims
on that flight.
Berberi confirms the report
Berberi confirms the report
with the French judicial investigation,
which had secured copies of the cockpit voice recorder.
All we were told is the pilots reported the fire
All we were told is the pilots reported the fire
but didn't mention its location.
Let's see what they said.
The investigators began their analysis
The investigators began their analysis
by looking for answers to the main question...
how did a fire start on Flight 804?
how did a fire start on Flight 804?
We had a lot of questions, a lot of theories,
but no answers.
The word "fire" that is on the voice recorder
The word "fire" that is on the voice recorder
indicates this was something other than an explosion.
indicates this was something other than an explosion.
Tired?
I'm OK.
I'm OK.
Stop.
Stop.
Do you hear that?
Play it again.
CAPTAIN SHOQEIR (ON RECORDING): Tired?
CAPTAIN SHOQEIR (ON RECORDING): Tired?
FIRST OFFICER ASSEM I'm OK.
Looks like there's something on channel 3.
Can you isolate it visually?
Can you isolate it visually?
The cockpit voice recorders not only can record voices,
but they record noises in the cockpit, which
but they record noises in the cockpit, which
can tell us another story too.
Investigators isolate the channels.
Investigators isolate the channels.
On one of the channels, they hear something unusual.
What's that sound?
What's that sound?
They worked on that audio, changing the sound spectrum
They worked on that audio, changing the sound spectrum
to reduce the low frequencies.
This could allow them to hear clearly
This could allow them to hear clearly
something coming from one of the microphones of the pilots.
something coming from one of the microphones of the pilots.
It's like a whispering sound.
It's like a whispering sound.
Can you pull the library of sounds?
Investigators compare the sound
to similar sounds in a database of cockpit noises.
to similar sounds in a database of cockpit noises.
Not... not this one.
Not that one either.
Not that one either.
Play that one.
No, that's not it.
No, that's not it.
What about this one?
That's it.
It's the oxygen mask.
Was oxygen leaking from a mask in the cockpit?
Was oxygen leaking from a mask in the cockpit?
It says here that if not stowed properly,
it's going to leak.
Now, the closest oxygen mask to channel 3
is this one, right behind first officer seat.
is this one, right behind first officer seat.
Hello, hello?
EgyptAir 804.
EgyptAir 804.
Flight level 370.
Squawk number 7624.
Squawk number 7624.
The implication of the discovery is immediately clear.
That's fuel for the fire.
That's fuel for the fire.
In an oxygen-enriched environment,
the potential for ignition goes up,
the potential for ignition goes up,
and the severity of the ensuing fire post-ignition goes up.
and the severity of the ensuing fire post-ignition goes up.
An oxygen leak can feed a fire,
but it can't ignite one.
but it can't ignite one.
Investigators wonder what could have started the fire.
I need reports from cases with in-flight fires.
I need reports from cases with in-flight fires.
Are there other cases where a similar fire
brought a plane down?
One of the early things you do is
One of the early things you do is
has the fleet seen this before or anything similar to it?
Have there been flight deck fires?
Have there been flight deck fires?
And there have.
In June 1983, an onboard fire
In June 1983, an onboard fire
ripped through an Air Canada DC-9
and forced the pilots to make a harrowing emergency landing.
and forced the pilots to make a harrowing emergency landing.
American investigators theorized that a lit cigarette
in the lavatory was one of the possible causes.
in the lavatory was one of the possible causes.
Perhaps the pilots were smoking.
Smoking regulations for pilots in Egypt, what are they?
Smoking regulations for pilots in Egypt, what are they?
Smoking has been banned on most airlines
around the world for years.
Unbelievable.
EgyptAir did not allow smoking on board
except in the cockpit.
except in the cockpit.
It was allowed in 2016 to smoke in the EgyptAir cockpit
It was allowed in 2016 to smoke in the EgyptAir cockpit
with the authorization of the captain.
With no ban on smoking for pilots at EgyptAir in 2016,
With no ban on smoking for pilots at EgyptAir in 2016,
French judicial investigators put forth a theory that focuses
French judicial investigators put forth a theory that focuses
on the pilots of Flight 804.
Listen to this...
Listen to this...
the ashtrays were replaced before the accident.
The Egyptian Pilots' Association
The Egyptian Pilots' Association
insists that the pilots were not smokers.
According to the Egyptian authorities
According to the Egyptian authorities
and the Egyptian media, the pilots weren't smokers.
and the Egyptian media, the pilots weren't smokers.
But according to other pilots that I interviewed,
they were smokers.
they were smokers.
Studying maintenance records for the aircraft,
investigators make an important discovery.
It's not just the ashtrays that were changed.
It's not just the ashtrays that were changed.
They replaced the FO's oxygen mask,
and it looks like it was left in emergency mode.
and it looks like it was left in emergency mode.
This is just what we need.
The first officer's oxygen mask was changed
The first officer's oxygen mask was changed
three days before the accident.
According to the experts, the oxygen mask was set improperly
According to the experts, the oxygen mask was set improperly
on an emergency mode.
on an emergency mode.
When an oxygen mask is in emergency mode,
it feeds oxygen at a higher pressure,
it feeds oxygen at a higher pressure,
releasing more oxygen than when it's in normal mode.
I can see where it could, depending on the position,
I can see where it could, depending on the position,
initiate flow out of the hose into the mask
initiate flow out of the hose into the mask
and then into the environment.
Aren't the pilots supposed to check the oxygen
masks at the start of each day?
masks at the start of each day?
Pilots are supposed to check that setting
unless someone else on the first flight of that day
unless someone else on the first flight of that day
has already done that.
But that doesn't mean that you can do that again.
But that doesn't mean that you can do that again.
French judicial investigators speculate
that the leaking oxygen saturated
that the leaking oxygen saturated
the cockpit air, increasing the potential for a sudden fire.
The French report concluded that the aircraft went down
because there was something, most probably a cigarette, that
because there was something, most probably a cigarette, that
with the contribution of the oxygen
with the contribution of the oxygen
leaking from the first officer's mask
started a fire that wasn't stopped
started a fire that wasn't stopped
or could not be stopped.
Leo Berberi breaks the story
Leo Berberi breaks the story
that the French judicial inquiry has
a very different theory from either the Egyptian government
or France's BEA.
or France's BEA.
It's a theory questioned by many experts.
It's a theory questioned by many experts.
Just imagining that this mask is filling the cockpit
with a high percentage of oxygen is ridiculous because the feed,
with a high percentage of oxygen is ridiculous because the feed,
even when it's at full blast, is intended
even when it's at full blast, is intended
to be enough feed to the pilot's face like this in the cockpit.
to be enough feed to the pilot's face like this in the cockpit.
That would have been minimal.
Let's move to the backup.
To me, frankly, this is a bit of a stretch.
To me, frankly, this is a bit of a stretch.
Officially, the ignition source for the onboard
fire remains an open question.
fire remains an open question.
Families of those lost in the tragedy
still have no firm answers.
still have no firm answers.
The Egyptians maintain that this was an act of terrorism.
The Egyptians maintain that this was an act of terrorism.
Two alternate explanations remain on the table...
Two alternate explanations remain on the table...
the cigarette theory and the faulty wiring theory.
the cigarette theory and the faulty wiring theory.
What caused Egypt 804 to crash remains a mystery.
What caused Egypt 804 to crash remains a mystery.
But one fact is clear...
But one fact is clear...
whatever happened could happen again.
It's absolutely vital that we find out what caused
It's absolutely vital that we find out what caused
the fire on this airplane.
the fire on this airplane.
Aviation does not do well with mysteries.
We never have.
CAPTAIN SHOQEIR (ON PA): It's spreading.
Where's it coming from?
Where's it coming from?
FIRST OFFICER ASSEM I don't know.
CAPTAIN SHOQEIR (ON PA): I'm taking us down.
The Egyptians have since
The Egyptians have since
banned smoking in the cockpit.
As the year 2023 begins, there still isn't an official report.
As the year 2023 begins, there still isn't an official report.
I think we know that there's a lot more
information that has been gathered about Flight 804
information that has been gathered about Flight 804
than has been released.
An incomplete investigation leaves
An incomplete investigation leaves
behind an incomplete story.
Multiple unanswered questions tarnish the case.
Multiple unanswered questions tarnish the case.
What's that?
But there's agreement that the crisis
But there's agreement that the crisis
began suddenly, escalated rapidly, and forced
the pilots to act fast.
the pilots to act fast.
While the plane is cruising at 37,000 feet,
the first signs of a crisis become apparent.
the first signs of a crisis become apparent.
Things had started going wrong.
There's a fire.
You need to get the airplane on the ground now.
Too many things are failing.
Too many warnings are coming up.
It's spreading.
It's spreading.
Where's it coming from?
I don't know.
The warnings would have
spurred the pilots into action, but the situation worsened.
spurred the pilots into action, but the situation worsened.
It's getting increasingly smoky.
They're going to be increasingly having trouble with breathing.
They're going to be increasingly having trouble with breathing.
Blower override.
Cabin fans off.
Cabin fans off.
The pilots would have followed the procedures
for smoke in the cockpit in an attempt
to isolate the source of the smoke.
to isolate the source of the smoke.
Electrical bus tie auto.
Electrical bus tie auto.
Try to start ZBU.
The electrical emergency configuration
would have shut down most of the aircraft's systems,
would have shut down most of the aircraft's systems,
leaving the pilots with only basic controls
to bring the plane down.
to bring the plane down.
This is what you do if there's a fire.
It has been a proven safeguard in airliners
It has been a proven safeguard in airliners
for quite a long time.
It seems the fire grew.
I'm taking us down.
And spread into the passenger cabin.
And spread into the passenger cabin.
There is a fire extinguisher in the flight deck.
There is a fire extinguisher in the flight deck.
So where's the fire?
What's the intensity of the fire?
Where is it progressing?
Where is it progressing?
Every second the fire burns, the more
damage the plane sustains.
The situation in the flight deck
The situation in the flight deck
would be chaos because it's becoming increasingly
would be chaos because it's becoming increasingly
difficult for the pilots to know what they are fighting against.
difficult for the pilots to know what they are fighting against.
I can't see.
The cockpit of Flight 804
was likely engulfed in flames as the pilots
was likely engulfed in flames as the pilots
tried to save their plane.
How exactly the pilots tried to fight back the fire
How exactly the pilots tried to fight back the fire
is another one of Flight 804's unsolved mysteries.
is another one of Flight 804's unsolved mysteries.
If nobody knows about what went wrong
in a particular accident, how can
in a particular accident, how can
they change their own programs?
How can they devise their aircraft better?
If mistakes were made by EgyptAir or by Airbus,
If mistakes were made by EgyptAir or by Airbus,
they remain unpublicized.
Airbus has not made any changes to the design of the A320
Airbus has not made any changes to the design of the A320
as a result of this accident.
It's been a large number of years
It's been a large number of years
since this tragedy happened, and we still don't know why.
We owe it to the traveling public.
We owe it to the traveling public.
We owe it to crew members.
We owe it to the victims' families.
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