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[Dramatic music playing]

[Woman] I think that the story of the women

and Jeffrey Epstein is now known.

I think the world knows what a monster he was,

and that story is out there.

I think that the story of the men

is not known really at all.

I'm trying to put the dots together

through my reporting

to show that whatever happens to ghislaine Maxwell

in her trial...

That the network of guys

who lifted up Jeffrey Epstein

and enabled these alleged sex crimes,

that endures.

[Dramatic music playing]

[Intense music playing]

[Vicky] In the three years after my vanity fair article

about Jeffrey Epstein ran,

no one publicly talked about the sexual assault

allegations against him.

I stayed away from him,

and as it turned out,

so did ghislaine,

who began to move in her own circles.

And then, in the summer of 2006,

everything changed for Jeffrey.

[Reporter] Jeffrey Epstein was investigated

by the palm beach police for months.

The police conclusion,

Epstein's palm beach mansion

was a revolving door for women,

and in some cases, girls as young as 16.

Jeffrey Epstein was arrested

in palm beach,

but on state charges.

Solicitation of a prostitute

but also solicitation of a minor.

What the world at large

had no idea of was that there was

a federal investigation

involving dozens of underage girls,

and that the FBI was investigating

what was a massive sex trafficking operation.

The FBI would speak to between 30 and 40 victims,

and federal prosecutors assembled

a 53-page indictment.

Jeffrey hired me along with a group

of other very prominent lawyers

to help negotiate a deal

with the us attorney's office.

[Vicky] In addition to Alan Dershowitz,

the team of "super lawyers"

included former ambassador Jay lefkowitz,

and Kenneth starr, the prosecutor

in Bill Clinton's impeachment.

They ended up making a deal

with Alexander acosta,

who is in the us attorney down in Florida.

We took the position

that they did not have a strong federal case,

because for a federal case,

you need to transport young women into state commerce.

They just didn't really have that case and therefore,

the best resolution would be to have him plea

to what they had a strong case on, a state case.

[Reporter] He pleaded guilty in open court.

He agreed to serve a total of 18 months

in the palm beach detentions facility.

The guilty plea and deal and a years' long process

that could have sent Epstein to jail for 15 years.

[Intense music playing]

[Vicky] It was shocking.

Epstein didn't just get a short sentence...

His lawyers negotiated

a non-prosecution agreement for him,

and for four women who worked

at his palm beach compound.

This meant that none of them could be charged

of these crimes involving Epstein in the future.

One Epstein associate was not on the list,

ghislaine Maxwell.

But why do you think Jeffrey Epstein

didn't have her name

in the non-prosecution agreement?

She was not directly involved,

insofar as we are aware

in the sex trafficking at the time he was arrested.

[Dramatic music playing]

[Christopher] I was reading about it

in the New York post.

And I just thought,

"wow. That creep."

You know, that's the guy I met through...

Ghislaine.

But it was so clear by that point

that she had moved on.

Even after Epstein,

you know, spectacularly fell from grace

and went to jail in the beginning,

I still didn't think...

Ghislaine was a terrible person.

I think she was clearly tarnished and implicated

by her relationship with Epstein.

But I just remember thinking,

"well, I would give ghislaine the benefit of the doubt."

[Vicky] In palm beach,

Jeffrey would end up serving only

13 months in a local jail.

And he was released six days a week

to go to his office.

Was it just his high-priced lawyers

who made all of this possible?

Or did he use other types of influence?

I spoke with a new source about this,

Felix sater,

a real estate developer who's perhaps

best-known for his ties to the trump organization,

and his attempt to broker a deal

for a trump tower in Moscow.

Sater cooperated with the government

for more than a decade after he was caught

in the late 1990s on a racketeering charge.

He is somebody

who I thought might be able to make sense

of this sort of underworld.

Recording started.

From everything that I see,

it is my belief that he was probably

a very long-term cooperator of the us government.

[Vicky] In Felix's opinion,

this arrangement could go back as far as

the tower's financial case in the early 1990s.

You would say that his work as a cooperator

was so important to the government

that they gave him a lenient sentence?

He could have maintained that relationship

with the government for decades.

And, yes, if things... Push comes to shove

and he was involved in something, they may...

They may go easier on him because of the greater good.

Well, it's hard to argue that's a greater good, Felix,

when you've got underage women

in astonishingly large numbers

being sexually assaulted.

We don't know what information he was providing.

That doesn't take away from the fact

that he was just a complete piece of scum.

- Well, obviously... - That said,

the government does not get their best information

from honest dentists in Manhattan.

They get their information about bad guys from bad guys.

[Vicky] While Jeffrey navigated

the lows of plea deals and jail time,

ghislaine was riding high.

I remember being at a cocktail party

and running into ghislaine,

and her hugging me,

I haven't seen her for a while, and...

Trailing behind her, she said,

"I want you to meet Ted."

[Vicky] Ted waitt is...

A self-made billionaire.

He was the ceo and founder

of a technology company, gateway.

They met on a trip with Bill Clinton to Beijing.

[Christopher] She managed to slip into the conversation

that he had the most incredible yacht.

Which is the kind of detail that...

- [Vicky] Yes. - Ghislaine never failed

to telegraph just so you know

that she wasn't wasting her time.

It was the first inkling I got that,

"god, ghislaine has clearly moved on.

She's found some guy she's crazy about,

and that she's having a very exciting life

with this guy, and Epstein

seemed to be totally out of the picture."

[Vicky] I ran into ghislaine,

which was not something I had been

wanting to do or seeking out, but I did bump into her.

Ted waitt's presence actually made

this meeting between ghislaine and I

probably far less awkward

than it otherwise would have been.

It was almost like, Jeffrey who?

I mean, just...

It just seemed different worlds away.

That period of her life,

both she and Ted waitt,

were very involved with...

Bill Clinton, the Clinton foundation,

cgi, Clinton global initiative.

I mean, do you remember her talking

a lot about Bill Clinton?

[Christopher] Yes.

Cleverly, she managed to...

Slip the name Bill Clinton into most conversations.

So it was a kind of reminder as ever...

- [Vicky] Yes. - Of ghislaine,

that she's hanging out with

world leaders, the [indistinct] of industry,

and this was kind of...

For her, this was kind of normal.

[Vicky] I had not appreciated

just how important sort of Clinton world

was in raising ghislaine up,

but it was... It was hugely important.

Because ghislaine originally had been known

as the access to Jeffrey's money,

she was courted in her own right.

Ghislaine even snagged a prime aisle seat

at Chelsea Clinton's wedding.

You can see her in one of the official photos.

This did put ghislaine into...

The sort of world that, you know,

if you go way, way back,

she aspired to be in her 20s, you know,

she was sought after in her own right

as a person of substance, and of a person of importance.

So she invited me over to her house, and...

Whoa.

Wow, this is a gigantic house, and it was clearly hers,

didn't seem to be anything to do with her boyfriend,

it was ghislaine's house.

And ghislaine was talking with great passion

about the thing that really motivated her,

and it was saving the world's oceans.

[Ghislaine] One of my first dives,

when I went down,

I switched on the lights

at the bottom of the ocean

and saw a plastic hanger.

It was in that moment actually that I decided

that I really wanted to focus

my attention on the ocean.

So you thought it was authentic?

I did.

And it just... I mean, at the time, I did.

She was so passionate about it.

And I remember thinking,

"well, this is a whole lot more interesting

than being the gal Friday of a creepy guy."

[Vicky] But ghislaine would never

be able to fully shake the stigma

of her connection to Jeffrey Epstein.

Well, a palm beach billionaire is getting

his first taste of freedom in over a year.

[Reporter] The black sedan sped away

from the county jail,

its occupant, registered sex offender

and billionaire, Jeffrey Epstein.

He's been really happy that his jail sentence is over,

and he can begin a new chapter in his life.

[Woman] You'd think that when he emerged from jail,

Jeffrey would have been a social pariah,

but it seems that money talks.

While ghislaine traveled the world

on high-profile missions,

Jeffrey found a different way to pedal his influence.

Once Jeffrey got out of jail,

he turned his homes into salons

for the rich and powerful and famous,

all in the guise

of Jeffrey the great philanthropist,

this was his new image.

And it worked.

He really did have

the crown prince of Saudi Arabia

and Bill Gates.

And according to Kira dikhtyar,

the Russian model who was friendly with him,

he went out with Elon Musk

and Jeff bezos.

Did these powerful men seem to really like him?

[Kira speaking]

[Vicky] Kira was a friend of Jeffrey's,

but she also says that he paid her

and other women $1,000 each

to sit around his house to impress clients.

[Kira speaking]

[Vicky] Journalist ed Epstein

hadn't seen Jeffrey since the late 1980s,

but he was curious when Jeffrey invited

him over in 2013.

[Ed] We had tea.

Someone knocked on the door and said,

"Leon's here."

And he said he can wait,

and when I left,

Jeffrey walked me to the door and said,

"you know Leon, don't you?"

Well, I didn't know Leon black.

I heard of him.

I mean, Leon black was one of the most

famous and wealthiest,

powerful financiers with his Apollo group.

Well, I thought, well, if he's there,

well maybe, Jeffrey has redeemed himself

in some way.

Or changed this behavior or something like that.

I mean, you know...

[Vicky] It's really quite remarkable.

I spoke to one source, he said,

"do you know, this was all

a very brazen effort

to erase his track record,

the fact that he was now a convicted sex offender."

A large part of his efforts was spent

to trying to create

a new reputation for himself,

not by rehabilitating himself

like doing charity work or anything,

but he wanted people to somehow think

that his conviction...

Was false.

[Vicky] To be clear, none of the people

who spent time with Jeffrey

have been accused of any wrongdoing.

It seems he used these high-powered

individuals to attract others.

Someone described him pretty well,

that he came to Jeffrey's house,

and he saw all these famous people there like Bill Clinton

or Larry summers who was the secretary of treasury.

And then he thinks, well, my god,

all these people at his salon, they all hang out here.

Somehow they must have all vetted Jeffrey Epstein

and if they all found that Jeffrey Epstein

was respectable, who is he to...

To quibble.

Jeffrey understood how power really works.

He understood

that power is...

10 people, men,

in a room making decisions that nobody else can see.

He understood how to use

money to influence people,

but he also understood how to read people,

so that he could manipulate his way

into their orbit.

And he could use them to his own advantage.

Bill Gates began attending these salons in 2011.

A spokesperson for the gates foundation

says that many people told gates

Jeffrey was somebody who could help the foundation.

But there are questions

about the death of their friendship.

Sources say that gates flew on Jeffrey's plane

at least once and visited his home many times.

And there are rumors

that gates' divorced from his wife, Melinda,

is in some part connected to these visits.

[Reporter] According to documents obtained

by the journal, Melinda and her advisors

held the number of calls with divorce lawyers

in October 2019,

the same month the New York times first reported

that bill met with Epstein on numerous occasions.

[Vicky] In 2019, gates was quoted as saying,

"I thought those discussions would lead literally

to billions of dollars going to global health.

Turned out that was a bad judgment."

He also admits,

[Vicky speaking]

While Jeffrey was attracting new associates,

some of his longer relationships had ended.

His patron Leslie wexner

severed ties while Jeffrey was in jail.

Being taken advantage of

by someone who was so sick,

so cunning,

so depraved...

Is something that I'm embarrassed

that I was even close to.

[Vicky] The most public break came in 2011.

Prince Andrew went out

to stay with Jeffrey Epstein in New York City.

They went on for a walk together.

They went to central park

and pictures taken of the two of them

where then published in February 2011.

And that was the first point that prince Andrew

was already drawn heavily

into the Jeffrey Epstein story.

He was obviously criticized for maintaining

this friendship with the man who was a...

At that point, a convicted pedophile.

[Vicky] It then came out

that Epstein has recently paid

a $24,000 debt

for Andrew's ex-wife, Sarah Ferguson.

The public uproar about that meant

that the Duke of York and his ex-wife

absolutely distanced themselves from Jeffrey.

But other friends

like former Israeli prime minister

ehud barak was still around.

In 2015,

barak and Epstein formed an investment group together,

registered in the Virgin Islands.

That's where Jeffrey established

his holding company

and his foundations after 2012.

National security analyst, Vanessa neumann,

tells me that perhaps it should have set off

alarm bells with the clients he was courting.

What they're selling

is banking secrecy.

Shell companies...

You know, trusts that can't be... that can't be tracked

and that would make perfect sense for someone like him.

[Vicky] In other words,

it's a good place to engineer

the invisible deals that Jeffrey specialized in.

And according to my sources,

he was offering his services to new networks.

Jeffrey told ed Epstein

that he was investing for certain African dictators

and that he was also working

with Mohammed bin salman,

the Saudi crowned prince,

and Mohamed bin zayed, the controller of Abu Dhabi.

And he said that he had a lot of influence

with the person who controlled

the port of Djibouti,

a very important strategic port.

What's interesting...

Is this puts you right back into the world

that Jeffrey was immersed in in the 1980s,

it's the work of bounty hunting,

of moving money into offshore accounts.

It's the world of doing

international transactions in the shadows,

that's what Jeffrey knew had to do.

In national security circles,

there's a name for somebody like Jeffrey.

He is what we would call

a "hyper connector."

- Right? - Yes.

Because he is not only

very deeply connected

in one network, right?

He connects different networks.

It's not just like he was

the American Jewish business network,

he also had the middle east

and he could link banking to royalty,

et cetera and he could move back and forth

through those groups.

[Vicky] Neumann says that those connections

could have benefited Jeffrey.

When you have that kind of

reach and that kind of connectivity,

you have a lot of people

who have a vested interest in protecting you.

[Intense music playing]

[Vicky] According to Kira dikhtyar,

Jeffrey also took action to protect himself.

It is your distinct impression

that after Jeffrey got out of jail,

he made very sure that no...

None of the women around him were underage,

is that...

And how do you know that?

[Kira speaking]

- [Vicky] Really? - [Kira speaking]

Given that he did seem to spend

the 10 years after he got out of jail,

intent on rehabilitating his image,

it seems highly likely

that he did have somebody checking ID's at the door.

Now, whether or not

this was yet another great Jeffrey Epstein facade

that completely belige reality,

your guess is as good as mine.

[Vicky] Despite Jeffrey's attempt to escape his past,

in 2011,

a lurid tail of his sex trafficking

hit the news when a never-before-seen photograph

was published.

It would be the beginning of the end

for both him and ghislaine.

The photograph of Virginia Roberts

with prince Andrew, prince Andrew's arm

around her midriff,

ghislaine Maxwell smiling,

sort of smugly in the background,

put the story of their past

right, front, and center

in the public's consciousness around the world.

[Reporter] It's a sordid business and no small

embarrassment for the British royal family.

[Reporter] Prince Andrew is responding

to claim made Virginia Roberts.

[Vicky] As the media uproar played out,

I decided to write a blog about Jeffrey

and ghislaine for vanity fair.

I included the fact

that I knew about the farmers'

sexual assault allegations in 2002,

but we haven't published them.

Somebody changed it quite dramatically

so that it ended up reading like a puff piece.

My lines about the farmers were taken out

and the language got changed.

[Ominous music playing]

It read that I

hadn't believed the farmers, which was absolutely not true

and it got posted without me seeing the changes,

which was incredibly upsetting.

I thought I'm never going to be able to get

the farmers and their allegations

into vanity fair magazine and...

I just gave up.

The Virginia Roberts photograph

put a swift end

to ghislaine's new life away from Jeffrey.

The team around Bill Clinton

and the Clinton global initiative

decided that ghislaine was no longer

to be invited to Clinton events.

She and Ted waitt broke up that same year.

Several months later, I ran into ghislaine

and she invited me to lunch,

I think she wanted to sell me on a story

about saving the oceans.

I also think she was lonely.

She talked about how sad she was

that she had broken up with Ted waitt.

It was almost like she'd been left behind.

Good afternoon.

[Vicky] After that loss, she once again

tried to separate herself from Jeffrey,

starting her own non-profit called,

"terramar".

I'd bump into her occasion

and she'd always be talking about

a new charitable endeavor.

It was like she was on a PR,

- personal PR. - The ocean, the terramar?

And you felt that that wasn't authentic?

I thought it was odd and felt a bit forced.

I didn't think she was faking it,

but I thought it was PR campaign.

Tell everybody how much you love the ocean.

Love your planet for generations to come.

[Vicky] For a while, the diversion seemed to work.

She developed a Ted talk

and spoken at the UN

about the plates of the oceans.

I'm here representing civil society.

[Vicky] And then the other shoe dropped

at the end of 2014.

Virginia Roberts giuffre joined a group

of women suing Jeffrey in Florida.

We need to get to the bottom

on everybody who was involved with that,

starting with ghislaine Maxwell and...

And that's when she's talking about

being forced to have sex with prince Andrew

in the bathroom of ghislaine Maxwell's London townhouse.

Anything that might have been implicit before

was now written large in huge typeface

on the front pages of national newspapers.

[Reporter] In the filing, Roberts now claiming

Epstein made her available for sex

to politically connected and financially powerful people,

one of them, the prince,

the other, the prof,

Harvard law professor, Alan Dershowitz.

The story is completely and totally made up

and believe me I remember everybody

I've ever had sex with.

[Vicky] Alan Dershowitz tells me

that Jeffrey pressured him to settle with giuffre

instead of fighting publicly.

Well, Jeffrey called me and said,

"don't litigate this thing.

Just deny it. Be quiet.

We don't want lawsuits.

We don't want testimony."

He put enormous pressure on me

to settle my cases

going so far as to offer to contribute

to the settlements.

How much is the potential settlement

did Jeffrey say he would pay for you?

We never got into numbers because I refuse to

even talk about it.

If what Alan says is true,

are there other men walking around

who have made these kind of settlements

who were in Jeffrey's network

that we do not yet know about?

Dershowitz sued not only giuffre,

but her lawyers,

including the well-known litigator David boies.

It's become a major battle

between two high profile attorneys,

a fight for their professional futures.

I want Virginia giuffre to go to jail for perjury.

She has victimized many, many people by her perjury.

I want her lawyers to be investigated

and disbarred if the evidence shows

that they suborned her perjury.

Alan Dershowitz's wild claims

are designed to serve on purpose

and one purpose only

and that is to try to distract attention

from his own misconduct.

The attacks he is made

on the integrity, the character,

the honesty of the young survivors

of the Epstein-Maxwell sex-trafficking enterprise

would be pathetic if they weren't so outrageous.

That has been the way he defended Epstein.

That is the way he's attempting to defend himself.

[Vicky] David boies and other accusers' attorneys

have played a key role in not only the civil suits,

but the criminal cases.

In 2015, after Virginia giuffre

filed her allegations,

ghislaine issued a statement calling her a liar.

And boies then file a defamation suit

against ghislaine on Virginia's behalf.

That defamation suit where David boies

ended up taking two of ghislaine's depositions

is hugely important

in what happens subsequently both to Jeffrey

and then to ghislaine.

The depositions were very extensive

when she refused to answer questions

in the first deposition.

They went to the judge and got an order,

required her to answer questions again

in the second disposition.

So we have a very extensive record.

[Vicky] Ghislaine is now charged with perjuring

herself in those depositions.

According to the indictment,

ghislaine claimed that she hadn't known

that there were underage girls

in Epstein's house at any time,

that to her knowledge, he didn't have sex

with anybody other than her.

And that she had never

given anyone a massage.

The defamation case had another side effect,

it drove ghislaine back into Jeffrey's orbit.

[David] Remember her defensive,

Epstein was a defensive herself.

And she and Epstein were cooperating

in defending them... Themselves, plural.

- [Vicky] Right. - And Epstein and she

were working very closely together

in terms of, for example, defending against the claims,

bringing matters to the press,

all of the kind of PR stuff.

Did you get the impression that he and ghislaine

were back in touch?

Yes, definitely.

The lawsuit against her by Virginia Roberts

threatened Jeffrey.

They wound up in the same boat, uh,

metaphorically speaking.

[Vicky] In 2016 the defamation case was settled

when ghislaine paid Virginia an undisclosed sum.

At that point, ghislaine sold her townhouse

and left New York.

The Jeffrey Epstein story died down once again.

Even the publication of the bestseller

filthy rich, exposing many

of his crimes down in palm beach,

didn't keep it in the headlines.

David boies kept trying to get a criminal case

reopened against Jeffrey.

In 2016 and 2017, we were going to prosecutors,

we were going to the media, we were going to anybody

who would listen and trying to talk to them...

- Right. - About the evidence.

He thinks ghislaine should have taken

that opportunity to turn against Jeffrey.

If I had been representing her,

I would have told her to run, not walk,

run to the us attorney's office

and come clean.

She could have given the prosecutors

Epstein on a platter.

And that would have been valuable.

It's even conceivable to me

that if she had acted promptly,

she could have done a deal

that would not have involved jail time.

[Vicky] David boies has his own theory

as to why that didn't happen.

If you're gonna cooperate, the prosecution

is going to require you

to tell the complete truth.

And if you leave anything out, it will avoid the...

- Right. - Plea deal.

So she would have had to really come clean

about everything that she'd done.

She still had social pretensions,

she still, as they say, portrayed herself

as an environmentalist, she still spoke at programs,

that all would have come to a screeching halt

if she had admitted her role in the sex trafficking.

[Vicky] There's no way to know why ghislaine

didn't turn on Jeffrey Epstein, of course.

The one possibility is that she simply

didn't know what Epstein was doing

and therefore could not have turned him in.

What we do know is that four years after David boies

began representing Virginia giuffre,

he still hadn't convinced the FBI

to take up Jeffrey's case again.

Instead, one of the other plaintiffs' attorneys

found somebody who would listen.

In November 2018, the Miami herald published

an expose by reporter Julie brown.

She had spoken to more than 60 women whose stories

had never been told publicly,

even though many had told them

to federal investigators more than a decade before.

[Reporter] The case has gained renewed interest

after the Miami herald reported

that federal prosecutors entered

into a secret deal with Epstein.

The stories exposed the fact

that the federal investigation

was effectively shut down

by the justice department,

shut down by Alexander acosta,

who was in the us attorney.

I think there was a feeling at that point

for a lot of people that acosta

had basically let Jeffrey Epstein

off the hook with a very light charge

when in reality what he was accused of

was basically industrial scale child abuse.

[Vicky] Alexander acosta had become the secretary of labor

in President Trump's cabinet,

and the backlash eventually forced him out of office.

[Reporter] Acosta's sudden departure comes

less than 48 hours after the labor secretary

defended his role as a us attorney.

[Vicky] The stories also put a target

on Jeffrey Epstein's back.

The FBI of New York says it opened up

the Epstein case in response

to the Miami herald's reporting on Jeffrey Epstein.

You said he had a sort of kitchen cabinet

who met at least three times that you were aware of

in the last six months before he was arrested.

They brainstormed what he can do

about his deteriorating

and impossible situation.

It included bannon.

- So it included Steve bannon. - [Edward] And...

Yes, he had become a close friend

and then become an adviser to him

in terms of public relations.

[Vicky] Ed Epstein says the planning sessions

also included Jeffrey's business partner, ehud barak.

Barak denies that saying that he was never

a legal or informal advisor to Epstein.

The meetings continued into 2019.

But Jeffrey doesn't seem to have

believed he was in danger.

[Vicky] But on July 6th, 2019,

it all came crashing down.

Billionaire financier Jeffrey Epstein has been arrested.

He was taken into custody overnight

at a New Jersey airport.

Today, we announce the unsealing

of sex trafficking charges against Jeffrey Epstein.

[Reporter] His mansion on east 71st street

was raided early Sunday morning

as agents hauled out multiple bags of evidence.

[Vicky] It looked as if Jeffrey

would finally face justice.

And Epstein watchers, wondered if authorities

would find the blackmail material

he was rumored to have taped over the years.

There are Epstein victims who say

that they saw a room

in his upper east side mansion.

And it was filled with screens,

screens with live feeds

from the bathrooms in his mansion,

from the bedrooms in his mansion.

What happened to that video footage,

if it ever existed,

is one of the great mysteries of this whole thing.

We heard that there were passports,

there were diamonds, you know, all sorts of things

found in that house but no tapes.

And that remains the big question,

who has them and where are they?

[Vicky] At the time of the arrest,

Jennifer araoz who says she was raped

by Jeffrey Epstein when she was 15

was getting ready to sue him for damages.

She quickly filed the suit and went public

with an interview on the today show.

He hurt me badly.

I prefer not to go through that,

so, you know, this is one way

for me to get justice.

[Vicky] Then in August, five weeks after Jeffrey Epstein

was arrested, came more shocking news.

Disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein

has taken his own life while he was behind bars

here in New York City.

The idea that he had killed himself

was shocking to me

because this was not a guy who thought

that anyone or anything could defeat him.

Somebody who knew Jeffrey very well said to me,

well, this is his way of winning.

This is his way of having the last laugh.

That was before we knew

about all the very strange circumstances.

It's an almost incomprehensible

series of coincidences if you will.

Take him off suicide watch,

remove his cellmate,

not have the guards look in on him, um,

somehow the cameras are turned off.

These things can happen, right?

These things can happen but they all shouldn't

happen in one place.

All these peculiar things that I know

have caused even members of his own defense team

to question if he really killed himself

despite that being the coroner's finding.

[Vicky] Former arms dealer Ari Ben-menashe,

whose controversial theories

often tend towards conspiracy,

was held at the same jail

when he was awaiting trial in 1989.

And he also thinks the official account is unlikely.

In the cell itself, almost impossible

to commit suicide in the cell.

Almost impossible.

Well, I'm sure

if you had the gun smuggled,

- then you'd commit suicide. - Right.

[Ari] But how they described it, it's impossible.

[Vicky] So you're suggesting that he was...

He was murdered?

I'm suggesting that Epstein needed

to be gotten rid of somehow,

one way or another.

[Vicky] In your narrative,

the stories of Jeffrey Epstein

and Robert Maxwell are actually very, very similar.

[Ari] That's right, very similar.

Very, very similar.

[Vicky] Both men whose fortunes

were based on mirages.

[Ari] Correct.

And both men who, according to you,

died because it was too dangerous for them

to reveal the secrets that they had.

Correct.

These guys thought they're protected

with the knowledge they had.

Actually the knowledge they had

was what had them killed.

[Vicky] Of course, neither death

was officially ruled murder,

but questions have lingered.

And justice Robert Maxwell's victims felt cheated

when he died in 1991,

so, too, did Epstein's 30 years later.

I wanted my day in court,

I wanted to tell him, you know,

exactly what I felt about him.

I just felt just really, I don't know, alone.

[Vicky] Jennifer araoz and her attorney, Eric lerner,

wanted to get answers from ghislaine

and sue her for damages.

Jennifer was a child,

she was 14 years old and she was exploited

and recruited from high school.

And based on the allegations in the indictment,

this couldn't have happened without ghislaine Maxwell.

We hired an investigative team to, you know,

look for her and they had some sightings of her

in California in in-n-out and we had people out there.

We pretty much searched the country for her.

Physically going to locations

and trying to find her

and looking for leads.

[Vicky] But ghislaine had gone underground.

Rumors eventually start to surface

that she was hiding out in a chateau in France,

that she was staying on a yacht in New Zealand,

they led nowhere.

[Vicky] As it would turn out, ghislaine hadn't left

the United States at all.

She was in new england living with her new husband,

a tech entrepreneur named Scott borgerson.

The marriage was a secret.

Last time I saw her,

she came to my terrace very briefly

and that was about the terramar thing

and that she was living in New Hampshire

or Boston or somewhere.

[Vicky] She didn't mentioned she was married?

No. I... no, that was a total surprise.

She's a citizen of the world.

She's got a French passport.

Why would she have stayed in the us?

It's one of the great mysteries.

There are two reasons I can only imagine.

Either she was deeply in love with somebody who'd...

And she wanted to live in america

or she was promised by the FBI

that they weren't coming after her.

[Vicky] In December 2019,

ghislaine bought a house in Bradford, New Hampshire

for $1,000,000 in cash.

It was even called tucked away

that was how secluded it was.

And the neighbors had no idea

she was living there, you know.

There are people... Journalists went to try

to speak to them and they didn't have the faintest idea

ghislaine Maxwell was living next to them.

She kept her head down.

She had a...

She had large financial resources

with which to do that.

[Vicky] But the hideout only stayed secret

for a few months.

They knew she was in a small town in New Hampshire

but they didn't know exactly where.

So they had to get a warrant.

They used a sophisticated piece of technology,

a stingray is what it's called.

They can essentially ping a cell phone

and then zero in on it,

and determine a precise location of that cell phone.

The FBI moves in, ghislaine Maxwell disobey,

in order for her to open the door

instead she moved further into her mansion.

They get inside and they arrest her.

[Reporter] Federal agents found her cell phone

wrapped in tinfoil in what prosecutors described

as a seemingly misguided effort

to evade detection by law enforcement.

Maxwell is scheduled to go before a judge today

to find out if she will be granted release on bond.

[Man] Bail denied.

Jeffrey Epstein's former girlfriend

will remain behind bars on charges that she recruited

young girls for Epstein to sexually abuse.

[Jack] She asked for more than $28 million bail.

She's gonna pay for former special forces soldiers

to keep her under armed guard.

She offered to give up her passports.

And come the third bail application,

she offered to give up her British

and French citizenship.

So we've heard from Ian Maxwell

who's given TV interviews

and he's firmly of the view

that the only reason she's there

is because Jeffrey Epstein is dead.

[Man] Why is ghislaine Maxwell

being treated differently?

She's a patsy for Epstein

is the answer whom they lost on their watch

and they're taking it out on my sister.

Damn it. That's wrong.

[Vicky] David Boise says that ghislaine

is just one of the people

who should be held responsible.

Do you think we are likely

to see any more arrests or indictment?

[Jack] I hope we do.

I think that Epstein and Maxwell

were the two central players,

but there a number of other people

who contributed and import

the ways for the continuation

of the sex-trafficking enterprise.

And I think those people need to be held to account.

[Vicky] One of the four minor victims who are part

of the indictment against ghislaine is Annie farmer,

who first spoke to me back in 2002.

I finally had the chance to meet her in person

when she spoke in court in 2019.

Annie farmer did stand out even then

as somebody of remarkable composure

and calm to meet her in the courthouse,

you know, she was exactly what I'd pictured.

She strikes to me as a very dignified,

extraordinarily brave person.

My dealings with Annie's sister, Maria,

have been much more difficult.

I heard from Maria around this time,

I can't tell you what she said

because it was off the record.

She claimed to have had

a very harrowing life

in the aftermath of the non-publication

of her allegations against Jeffrey.

We did manage to get the allegations out in 2015.

But I know that Maria,

in the last two years

is very angry at me.

And, um, I get it,

you know what, I failed her

and, um...

I feel, uh,

awful about it.

And you know, if I had the opportunity,

I would say to her that I am so, so sorry.

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[Vicky] You've talked about the sort of web of power

that propped Jeffrey up.

It doesn't seem like that's going to disappear

even if ghislaine Maxwell is found guilty and go to prison.

Yeah, it doesn't end with her.

There are a lot of people to blame in this.

I think one of the reasons,

it focuses on ghislaine

is because she has knowledge of that web

- or at least that we've originally thought. - Mmm-hmm.

[Eric] But it seems like there's a lot

of powerful men around Jeffrey Epstein

who are part of this web and don't appear

to be part of any investigation right now.

[Vicky] Whilst ghislaine stand accused

of terrible, terrible, terrible crimes,

there are other people

who might be culpable in all of this

who just off scot free

and those are what I call the invisible men

and they are men

who surrounded Jeffrey

all this time,

enabled his awful crimes

looked the other way

whether out of self-protection,

self-interest, greed.

There have been repercussions for some of the men

who are friendly with Jeffrey.

Prince Andrew, for example,

amidst public pressure,

he agreed to speak to the BBC after Jeffrey died.

It would be a considerable stretch

to say that he was a very, very, close friend.

Do I regret of the fact that he has quite obviously

conducted himself in a manner unbecoming?

Yes.

Unbecoming?

He was a sex offender?

Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm being polite.

I think what the British public were probably expecting

from prince Andrew was an apology.

They were probably expecting him to show

empathy and sympathy.

I don't remember that photo of ever being taken.

But it's possible that it was you

- with your arm around her waist... - That's me but whether

that's my hand or whether that's, um, the position, I...

[Vicky] Do you regret the whole friendship with Epstein?

I'm... I...

Now, I still not.

He said that he valued the connections that he made

which is fascinating that even after everything

that had happened, obviously the power

of Epstein's political connections was still having

swayed over prince Andrew even in that moment.

[Reporter] The Monday morning headlines say it all.

Prince Andrew's attempt to explain his friendship

with accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein backfiring.

The furor over it does not seem

to be settling down today.

[Jack] Prince Andrew was forced to step back

from public life.

What's important for Americans to understand

is that royals don't get cancelled, you know,

that's not a thing that happens.

You don't lose your job as a member

of the royal family.

[Vicky] Another man who's being affected is Leon black,

the former ceo of Apollo global management

who admitted paying Jeffrey $158 million

over five years.

My friend, William d. Cohan,

who covers wall street for vanity fair and others

broke that one down for me.

This idea that Leon black,

truly one of the smartest guys on wall street,

would turn to Jeffrey Epstein

for bespoke financial...

Tax advice

absolutely makes no sense whatsoever.

[Vicky] Bill says that the men who have the most connection

to Epstein are known on wall street as the big three.

Black, Leslie wexner,

and former hedge fund manager Glenn dubin

who married Jeffrey's former girlfriend, Eva Andersson.

Dubin left his fund after Jeffrey died

and has been subpoenaed by an investigator

in the us Virgin Islands.

Black was forced out of his role

as board chair of Apollo.

And wexner and his wife have also

left the board of l brands.

The big three, the ones that I think everybody knew

Jeffrey had a relationship with,

as well as Bill Gates and prince Andrew,

have paid a reputational price.

But who are the others?

Ghislaine really could be the gateway,

the key to this shadowy web of invisible men.

The big question is what information does she have?

I mean ghislaine holds the key to the cabinet, right?

And in that cabinet, there's a lot information.

She was around Jeffrey Epstein's life,

she was around his life, meets a lot of very,

very powerful people

talking to them, entertaining them,

dining with them.

She holds a lot.

[Dramatic music playing]

[Vicky] What about the tapes Epstein allegedly made

to blackmail people?

Does she know about those?

[David] I think there is no doubt that there were tapes.

Now, where are those tapes are?

Indeed, even whether those tapes

continue to exist is something

that we've not been able to prove

one way or the other.

Ghislaine Maxwell is being pressured now

about the tapes.

Does she know where they are? Does she have them?

She might have bits of them

but the Israelis definitely has them.

- Yes. - You know that?

[Ari] Yes.

I think this whole extraordinary

tale of influence, campaigns,

of arms dealing,

of compromising people

shows that he may well have been propped up

by an international network,

that he could have had much more leverage over people,

over countries than perhaps any of us knew.

It is absolutely remarkable

the reach that he had.

[David] Uh, that's absolutely right.

There's still an enormous amount that even those of us

who have been working on this for six or seven years

don't yet know that the contacts he had,

the powerful people who had one connection

with him or another.

His legion.

[Vicky] Even two years after his death,

Jeffrey Epstein still has the power

to pull down the rich and famous.

The question is whether ghislaine could do the same.

[David] I think there are powerful people out there

who want to keep

concealed facts

that Ms. Maxwell knows

just as I think there were powerful people

who wanted to keep concealed facts with Jeffrey Epstein.

He was a dangerous person for a lot of people

because if he went down, then he was the type that would

take everybody down with him.

Well, how dangerous is ghislaine Maxwell, then?

Question is, what does she know?

And who doesn't want that coming out?

And how long is that valuable?

Because information loses its strength after time.

Ghislaine Maxwell may be

the last person on earth

who can be squeezed to say

what actually happened here

because I'm afraid that people

will never spill their guts.

It's very, very hard

to get people to spill the beans.

[William] Especially when they've been paid

a lot of money probably and they've signed agreements

that they won't and I really think that that's

what's going on here and not just like back in the day.

I think these people have been paid and are continuing

to be paid and may even be being paid more.

Really this is a story about guys,

very, very rich guys covering for each other.

Couldn't agree more.

And who knows what they're covering for?

Their lives, their reputations depend

on the truth never getting out.

And so I suspect that the truth

will never come out.

[Vicky] As she faces trial,

ghislaine has maintained her innocence

and it's possible that that is true.

Her father's biographer, Tom bower,

who remains in contact with the family,

says it's also possible

that she's following the Maxwell tradition.

The Maxwell psyche is always to fight for survival

and to win and that's I'm sure she's aiming for now.

She imagines that she can,

in her day in court, be...

Persuade the jury that she's innocent.

Uh, and that's what she'll be fighting for.

Her legal team, according to sources,

believes that she's going to win.

If they are really telling her that,

I think that is a grave disservice to their client.

I think that she is not going to win this trial.

[Vicky] Ghislaine may be taking her example

from her brothers who were found not guilty

in their fraud trial 25 years ago.

Kevin now is helping ghislaine

daily with her defense.

Do you know that for sure?

I mean the rest of us don't know Kevin Maxwell

in the way that you do.

[Tom] Yes, for sure, he's helping them.

Do not underestimate Kevin's determination

to ensure that his sister's acquitted.

I think you can anticipate

that Kevin's defense strategy

will be to destroy the credibility of the women.

[Vicky] And there is one more defense

that ghislaine could attempt.

She could claim that she, too,

was a victim of Jeffrey Epstein.

Ghislaine can easily plea that she is a victim

of a tyrannous boyfriend, Epstein.

And there'll be women in that jury

who will sympathize with the idea that ghislaine

has been the victim of a monster.

[Vicky] For those of us who knew her over the years,

it's almost impossible to comprehend

where ghislaine's road has taken her.

It's very sobering the idea that someone you knew

could have been doing this kind of stuff.

What are your feelings about it all?

Total disgust, horror,

and a kind of feeling of some guilt.

And it just turns my stomach.

It's one thing when you're...

You must rush out and get some...

Get Epstein the best chicken soup in New York City,

it's a hella different story

if it's feeding his depraved appetite

for defenseless young girls.

It's just awfully disgusting

and you kind of don't want to believe

that a friend of yours

is capable of anything that is just...

-[Vicky] A monstrous. -[Christopher] No. It's monstrous.

[Vicky] In the end, ghislaine Maxwell's story

returns to her father and his own sordid past.

One of the great takeaways from doing

all this reporting

is in the extraordinary parallels

between Jeffrey Epstein and Robert Maxwell.

In some ways, it's where ghislaine is now

has something to do with the way

she was raised by her father.

And then the way she was controlled willingly

by Jeffrey Epstein, two very similar men.

The ordinary expectation for somebody like ghislaine

would be what she told friends

she wanted to be, to become somebody,

somebody of great importance in the world.

I think the whole question of chasing ghislaine

is how and where did she

allegedly make a wrong turn

so that instead of becoming this glorious,

relevant influencer in the world,

she's now sitting in jail,

facing unspeakable charges of helping Jeffrey Epstein

with his sexual crimes.

To be honest, it's still something of a mystery.

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