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โช I started out to go to Cuba
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โช I landed in Miami Beach
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โช It's not so very
far from Cuba โช
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โช And oh what a
rumba they teach โช
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My first national
talk show started in Miami.
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From the sun and fun
capital of the world,
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this is "The Larry King Show."
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Miami Beach fermented
everything for me.
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Bunny Yeager came on my show a
few times, I interviewed her.
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She was special.
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How many beautiful
girls do you know
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who could have been a
major model, movie star?
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How many do you know would be
a photographer of pinup girls?
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She didn't really get
the credit she deserved.
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She was so far
ahead of her time.
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The work that she did
paved the way for me
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to be able to do what I do now.
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In photographing herself,
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she found incredible
empowerment.
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She should be woven into
the narrative of art history
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because she deserved to be.
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In the 1940s,
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Bunny Yeager starts
out as a model.
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She was photographed
by a lot of photographers,
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she got into all the magazines.
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But then she got an interest
in taking pictures herself.
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She thought men
are getting paid for this,
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so why shouldn't I?
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And for whatever reason,
right from the beginning,
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she was shooting great work.
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Bunny used to work every year
with a guy named Roy Penny.
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He was the
one that identified her
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as the world's prettiest,
most beautiful photographer.
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And that storyline
became the cover
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of "US Camera" in 1953.
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She was
also one of the world's
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hardest working photographers,
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one of the world's most
successful photographers,
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one of the world's most
daring photographers.
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And one of the
things that I think
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really is classic Bunny
is that she took it,
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and she ran with it.
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I really love the
pictures of Bunny Yeager as a
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model when she was
super platinum blonde.
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I love those pictures.
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I think it's so important
that she was like
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a bombshell pinup girl.
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It really made
all the difference
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in how she photographed
other people.
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There's
always been lots of
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different ways to
take a photograph.
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There's photographs that
are about showing you
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on your best day, and
then a tiny bit better.
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That's what Bunny's
photographs were.
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She could take a relatively
plain looking young woman,
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and she'd get the greatest
photo she ever took in her life.
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She just would transform them.
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Everything in
Bunny's photographs
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was pretty much calculated.
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Her hair and
complexion were so delicate,
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it was difficult to control
the lighting ratio in the sun.
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Like she said, there
was a reason to her madness.
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I wanted
to shoot her this way
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because in a natural setting,
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she would be far
more outstanding.
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She will take
notes prior to assembling
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a story for a photograph.
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She had incredibly
high standards,
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and she worked incredibly fast.
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That's one of my favorite
things about working
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with former models that
are also photographers.
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They know how they
wanna be seen.
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They know that they wanna
be shown in their best light
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and their most beautiful,
their most sexy.
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They want their flaws disguised,
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they want their
assets amplified.
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I
remember watching my mom mimic
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the face poses that she
wanted the models to have.
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It was fascinating.
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If her model could arch
her back in a specific way,
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she was gonna arch
her back to 110%.
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What better homework could
there be than Bunny Yeager
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being a pinup model herself?
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So she could say like,
"Yeah, I know that's killing
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your back right now, yes,
I know it feels unnatural,
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but we are gonna get
a beautiful shot."
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That's something that not
just anybody can convey.
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She had just
this incredible skill
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for finding models,
and convincing them
to work with her.
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'Cause that's, you
know, that's the key,
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especially when you're
doing nude photography.
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If a man or woman walked
around a neighborhood,
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knocked on a door today
and said, "Hey, hi,
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I'm so and so, I
am a photographer,
would you pose nude?
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They'd slam the door
and call the police?
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Look, Terry, let me
talk frankly with you.
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You and I could make a
lot of money together.
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You mean by me
posing nude for you?
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What's wrong with that?
You've seen my pictures.
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But Bunny specifically
picks people
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because they have a
sparkle in their eyes,
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because they have something
in their personality
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that she thinks
she can get across.
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Bunny always knew
how to identify
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a particular face, a Bunny girl
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like Bruce Weber used to say,
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"I can spot a Bunny girl
in the supermarket."
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She has that
swagger, you know?
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She has that life in
herself, you know?
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That kind of fearless,
like, I don't care
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what you think of me,
I'm just being myself.
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I won the scholarship
to Cornett Model Agency,
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and that's how I
started modeling
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for Burdines in the tea room.
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I modeled for Emilio Pucci,
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who's very famous
now, he's dead, but...
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I think we got
something like $25,
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or $30 for a fashion show,
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and like $12 for the fitting.
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You had to go, you know, before
and fit into your clothes.
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My first shoot with Bunny,
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I was living on
Rivo Alto Island,
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and I think we went
somewhere in my neighborhood.
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Did you
feel like when you did that,
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it was a brave thing to do?
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No, I thought it was
just earning money.
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Depending on your looks
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for a living is intimidating.
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I wouldn't be caught dead
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going out to get the
mail without my makeup.
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I enjoyed getting the
paycheck every time,
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and it was very much needed.
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I was supporting my
mother and myself,
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and had a household
to take care of.
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I've looked at a lot of
pinup photography in my life,
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and the thing that I've
noticed about the photos
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Bunny Yeager took of her models
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is that you see so much
of their personality.
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There's something
inherently female
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about the way that she
looks at her subjects,
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and you can feel it
reflected back at you,
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because the models, they don't
look as much like objects.
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She's a friend and you
see that in the pictures,
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the way that the women
really trusted her,
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and were hungry for a
friendship, you know?
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A lot of these models
in a million years
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wouldn't have worked
with a male photographer.
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People really responded to
her, she had a big personality,
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and she made people feel like
they were a part of her world
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as soon as they came in.
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She knew how to pose,
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and she knew just
how you were feeling.
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If you felt awkward or
something, she'd say,
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"Well, relax just a little
bit and try this or try that."
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You just felt like you were
with a girlfriend, actually.
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That was fun,
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and I think I looked
like I was having fun.
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She was easy to work
for in that way,
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talking to you and making you
laugh and putting you at ease.
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Bunny was unique in the sense
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that she was doing, well,
cheesecake photography.
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I mean, a lot of those pictures,
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for the 50s, we're
talking risque.
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She always seemed to
wanna pull it down
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a little bit on the side, or...
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Compared to now, they look
like, you know, Mickey Mouse.
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I don't really remember this
picture at all looking at it.
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There was a chalks
on a sea plane,
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but I do remember Bunny was
very creative finding locations.
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So the 1950s gives us
both this virginal view
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of the woman as
domestic goddess,
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but also this kind of
wellspring of teenage rebellion.
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For women like Bunny Yeager,
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for women like Marilyn Monroe,
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you find that they're
really willing
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to put themselves out there,
and exploit and explore
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that friction, that space.
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My name is Christy Strong,
and I'm the granddaughter
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of Maria Stinger, who was one
of Bunny Yeager's best friends
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and biggest models
back in the day.
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Maria was known as
being Miami's Marilyn.
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She won Marilyn Monroe
lookalike contests,
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she was in calendars, she was
on the cover of magazines.
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Bunny was really the
one that blew her up.
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And what she loved about Maria
is that Maria had no fear.
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Maria
Stinger was a handful,
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Maria Stinger was
Bunny's best friend.
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Maria Stinger had a smile that
could get anyone in trouble.
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One of my favorite set
of photos that bunny took
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of my grandmother
was at Africa USA,
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which at the time in Miami
was this safari theme park.
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There's no fear in my
grandmother's eyes.
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She looks gorgeous, they're
having a wonderful time.
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Those were the first
set of pictures
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that Bunny professionally sold.
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I did know Maria
Stinger a little bit.
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I remember us going over
to their house one time
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and me playing
with her daughters.
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I do remember meeting
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one of the models,
Maria Stinger.
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I didn't know who she was at
that time or what her name is,
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but she was always
very good to me.
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When I was in my early
teens, I started to ask
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more questions about
who my grandmother was.
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My family was kind
of almost afraid
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of what they would find
if they dug too deeply
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into my grandmother's
life and work.
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My grandmother was
basically an exhibitionist.
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Bunny talks about how she didn't
have a lot of women friends
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back in the day.
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She used to like to tease
my grandmother and say,
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"Maria, just, you know,
take off your shirt."
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"Come on, you know you want to."
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And then inevitably, she'd
always take off her shirt.
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Really, it was this like fun,
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playful dynamic
they had together.
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โช I saw the capercaillie
play today โช
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I think you can see
how daring Bunny Yeager
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was as a photographer
from her earliest days
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by the locations
she was choosing.
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She would photograph
models nude on the beach
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early in the morning.
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She would get access to
amusement parks, like Playland.
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Her first published
photograph was taken
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at a wild animal park.
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She would ask her friends
for use of their mansions,
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and she would even
film people nude
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in front of her Christmas tree.
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As soon as Bunny
started taking pictures,
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every magazine wanted to
have her stuff in there.
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Bunny gave cache to magazines.
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If you published Bunny
Yeager photographs,
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not only were you
getting great photos,
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you were also getting to say
that you were getting photos
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by Bunny Yeager, the world's
prettiest photographer.
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She understood what
the magazines wanted,
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and what was commercial.
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She was
able to take the fact
that she was working
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both in front of and
behind the camera,
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and turn that into a brand.
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Not many people are on
both sides of the camera,
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and Bunny was on both
sides of the camera.
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Smile, sparkle.
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Good.
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All right, let's try something
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with your arms around your head.
249
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You're one of the world's
foremost photographers
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of women, is this a good job?
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I'm not trying to play
income tax man now,
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but do you make a
good living out of it?
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Well, I make a nice
living, but the big thing
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about it for me is I'm married
and I have two children.
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And I can make my own hours,
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and still indulge
in having a career.
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โช In my life
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โช I met a beauty
without bounds โช
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Dad talked about it a
lot, how special she was.
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I remember him
always telling me,
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"Your mom's not like other
moms, just being a housewife
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and sitting around
eating Bonbons."
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"She's working, she's
a photographer."
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Bunny was the most famous
female photographer in America.
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Bunny Yeager, is that right?
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Miss or Mrs Yeager?
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Actually, it's Mrs.
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Mrs. Yeager, where are
you from Mrs. Yeager?
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Miami, Florida.
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Miami, Florida. Lucky Florida.
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All right, panel,
you all masked up?
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Let's have a look at
everybody here and abouts,
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except those four
good characters over
there on the panel
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know exactly what your line is.
275
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One of the factors that
really influenced the shape
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of Bunny's career was how
much of an outsider she was.
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John, it's all too obvious.
Mrs. Yeager is from Miami.
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She's not sunburned,
she's a beautiful blonde.
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She's obviously a typical
American school teacher.
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One down and nine to go.
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She was an outsider
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because she was a
self-taught photographer,
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she was an outsider
because she was a woman.
284
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She was an outsider
because she lived in Miami,
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which was not a
center of publishing.
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Mrs. Yeager, do
you deal in services?
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Yes, I do.
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Mrs. Yeager once was on
the other side of the camera,
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but for the last four years,
she's been a photographer.
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She was an original,
291
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and she epitomized in a sense
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what Miami Beach was
in the '50s and '60s,
293
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booming, loose, devil may care,
294
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let it all happen.
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I had just started radio and
I was doing a morning show.
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And one day the general
manager called me in and said,
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"The all night guy,
Al Fox, is sick,
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would you sit in overnight?"
299
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It's "The Witching Hour,"
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Miami Beach's Midnight Flyer
program, we're underway.
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He says, "All you do is
just play records and talk."
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Miami Beach Midnight Flyer-
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This is not a
Bunny Yeager story.
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But I'm alone in the station
305
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and about 3:00 a.m.
the phone rings.
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And I pick up the phone, "WAHR,"
307
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and this voice, I
can hear it now,
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said, "I want you."
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I'm 22 years old, no
woman has ever said,
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"I want you," to me.
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I suddenly realized there
were other advantages
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to being on the radio.
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โช Really love me
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I said, "Well, I
get off at six."
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She says, "No, I
go to work at six,
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the only time is now."
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โช Did you ever really miss me
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So what the audience heard was,
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"Ladies and gentlemen, I have
a real treat for you tonight."
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You're gonna hear the
entire Harry Belafonte
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00:19:41,049 --> 00:19:45,836
and Carnegie Hall album,"
which took 23 minutes,
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00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,534
which is all the time I needed.
323
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โช Down the way where
the nights are gay โช
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โช And the sun shines
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I put the record on,
zoomed over to the house.
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I open up the door,
there's this lady,
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I never saw her clear, white
negligee sitting on the couch,
328
00:20:03,027 --> 00:20:06,074
opens her arms, I
jump into her arms.
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My right cheek is
against her right cheek,
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Belafonte is on the
radio, and I hear
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โช Down the way
where the knights โช
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โช Where the knights
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The record gets stuck.
334
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I place her back on the
couch, go to my car,
335
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Jewish masochism, I
leave the radio on.
336
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We enter the station,
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all the lights are
ringing, the phones.
338
00:20:31,317 --> 00:20:34,102
I'm picking them up, I'm
apologizing to people.
339
00:20:35,321 --> 00:20:38,106
I'm sweating, the
last phone call
340
00:20:38,149 --> 00:20:42,284
was an older Jewish man
and I said, "Hello."
341
00:20:42,328 --> 00:20:46,767
And he said, "Where the
nights, where the nights."
342
00:20:46,810 --> 00:20:50,249
"I'm going crazy with
where the nights."
343
00:20:50,292 --> 00:20:55,341
So I said to him, "Why didn't
you just change the station?"
344
00:20:56,951 --> 00:21:00,084
And he said, "I'm an invalid,
and I'm in bed all night
345
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and a nurse takes care of me."
346
00:21:01,825 --> 00:21:04,480
"And when she leaves,
she sets the radio
347
00:21:04,524 --> 00:21:08,049
on top of the wardrobe
set to your station,
348
00:21:08,092 --> 00:21:10,007
I can't get up and change it."
349
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I said, "I deeply apologize.
Can I do anything for you?"
350
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He said, "Yeah,
play Hava Nagila."
351
00:21:22,933 --> 00:21:27,416
There was nothing like Miami
Beach, nothing like it.
352
00:21:29,375 --> 00:21:31,725
It was hard in
Miami, Miami Beach,
353
00:21:31,768 --> 00:21:34,423
to take anything
really seriously.
354
00:21:41,387 --> 00:21:45,608
People got married, got
divorced, nothing was forever.
355
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,745
It was a loose, by a loose town,
356
00:21:51,788 --> 00:21:56,227
I mean it was a very
sexually liberated city.
357
00:22:00,884 --> 00:22:03,713
Bunny Met Sammy
Davis Jr. in 1955.
358
00:22:05,411 --> 00:22:08,109
Imagine, this is
segregated Miami.
359
00:22:08,152 --> 00:22:10,416
Sammy couldn't even
stay on Miami Beach
360
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past six o'clock at night.
361
00:22:14,245 --> 00:22:15,899
Bunny tells this
great story about
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how she picked Sammy up
in the car and Sammy said,
363
00:22:18,946 --> 00:22:20,991
"I have to get in
the back seat."
364
00:22:21,035 --> 00:22:23,603
I don't know if Bunny
was naive at the time,
365
00:22:23,646 --> 00:22:25,387
but that was just absurd to her
366
00:22:25,431 --> 00:22:27,998
because Sammy was
such a huge celebrity.
367
00:22:29,739 --> 00:22:32,133
He still wasn't comfortable
riding in the front seat
368
00:22:32,176 --> 00:22:34,831
with a blonde white woman
in Miami at the time.
369
00:22:36,877 --> 00:22:38,444
He would go off during the day
370
00:22:38,487 --> 00:22:41,316
with Bunny and
photograph models,
371
00:22:42,839 --> 00:22:45,799
both of them taking
a risk at that time.
372
00:22:45,842 --> 00:22:47,235
They would photograph pictures
373
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of my grandmother,
Maria, together.
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00:22:51,457 --> 00:22:54,111
They hit it off and
she gave him lessons
375
00:22:54,155 --> 00:22:56,462
on how to pose models.
376
00:22:58,638 --> 00:23:00,161
They
photographed together
377
00:23:00,204 --> 00:23:02,424
behind her favorite
photo shooting place,
378
00:23:02,468 --> 00:23:05,993
which was the abandoned
mansion of the Firestones,
379
00:23:06,036 --> 00:23:08,952
which is actually where
the Fontainebleau is now.
380
00:23:10,519 --> 00:23:13,392
So there was a night
that Bunny and Bud
381
00:23:13,435 --> 00:23:16,482
and Sammy Davis Jr. came over
to my grandparents' house.
382
00:23:19,267 --> 00:23:21,617
It goes beyond just
a couple of couples
383
00:23:21,661 --> 00:23:23,358
hanging out and having fun.
384
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,067
They all felt comfortable
just hanging around,
385
00:23:37,111 --> 00:23:39,026
you know, my grandmother's nude.
386
00:23:39,069 --> 00:23:41,724
It's just like nobody cares.
387
00:23:42,943 --> 00:23:45,859
Bunny was straight
in that world.
388
00:23:45,902 --> 00:23:50,994
She very much embraced the
notion that being a sexual woman
389
00:23:52,692 --> 00:23:56,043
gave you an entree into this
highly sophisticated society.
390
00:23:59,176 --> 00:24:02,005
Bunny really kind
of skirted two worlds.
391
00:24:02,049 --> 00:24:04,878
In fact, you look at some
of her books from the 50s
392
00:24:04,921 --> 00:24:08,316
and she'll have the
nice girl next door.
393
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,884
And the next page, it'll
be a burlesque performer
394
00:24:10,927 --> 00:24:15,062
that was over at Plus
Pigalle on the beach.
395
00:24:23,766 --> 00:24:26,813
You know, I grew up in a
farming town in Michigan.
396
00:24:26,856 --> 00:24:30,164
I'm a natural dishwater blonde,
397
00:24:30,207 --> 00:24:33,515
not very glamorous, kind
of very ordinary looking,
398
00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:37,519
and I wanted to be the
opposite of what I was.
399
00:24:37,563 --> 00:24:40,435
I wanted to be like a
Hollywood movie star.
400
00:24:40,479 --> 00:24:44,047
18 years old, and went
to a place in Anaheim,
401
00:24:45,745 --> 00:24:48,748
and walked into this little
like blacked out windowed store
402
00:24:48,791 --> 00:24:52,708
and it was a fetish store, and
it was just like filled with,
403
00:24:52,752 --> 00:24:54,580
you know, everything
you could imagine.
404
00:24:54,623 --> 00:24:57,408
And obviously, a completely
different world for me.
405
00:24:59,149 --> 00:25:01,761
That's where I saw my first
picture of Bettie Page.
406
00:25:02,762 --> 00:25:04,285
There wasn't really anybody
407
00:25:04,328 --> 00:25:06,809
that was trying to be
the new Bettie Page,
408
00:25:06,853 --> 00:25:09,899
so that was kind of the
thing that sparked my career.
409
00:25:12,772 --> 00:25:16,340
That never ending
appeal of Bettie Page is,
410
00:25:16,384 --> 00:25:20,519
how can someone be so sexy and
so innocent at the same time?
411
00:25:23,565 --> 00:25:27,177
โช I'm gonna take my time
412
00:25:27,221 --> 00:25:31,007
Bettie Page was a
young woman in the 50s,
413
00:25:31,051 --> 00:25:33,444
who moved to New York
with big aspirations
414
00:25:33,488 --> 00:25:35,403
of maybe being an
actress or a model.
415
00:25:36,622 --> 00:25:39,102
And ended up being
in camera clubs,
416
00:25:39,146 --> 00:25:41,104
which were these sort
of private pervy clubs
417
00:25:41,148 --> 00:25:44,325
where men came to photograph
for their photography classes.
418
00:25:44,368 --> 00:25:45,935
But, you know, it was
women in their underwear
419
00:25:45,979 --> 00:25:47,546
in people's living rooms.
420
00:25:50,287 --> 00:25:52,551
Bettie was an underground hit.
421
00:25:53,987 --> 00:25:56,206
โช Take my chance to see
you swim and dance โช
422
00:25:56,250 --> 00:25:59,645
โช Make a old man blush
423
00:25:59,688 --> 00:26:01,864
The sorts of magazines
that Bettie Page
424
00:26:01,908 --> 00:26:04,258
became famous with
would be kind of covered
425
00:26:04,301 --> 00:26:07,043
in brown paper wrappers,
sold behind the counter,
426
00:26:07,087 --> 00:26:11,091
and you theoretically had to
be of a certain age to buy.
427
00:26:12,788 --> 00:26:15,791
I think some people are familiar
with Bettie's pinup images,
428
00:26:15,835 --> 00:26:18,272
and then there's
the bondage stuff
429
00:26:18,315 --> 00:26:20,143
from like the Claw Studios.
430
00:26:20,187 --> 00:26:23,494
But if you dig even deeper,
it gets much racier than that.
431
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,280
It's so funny that
what were considered
432
00:26:26,323 --> 00:26:27,803
some of the raciest
images of the time,
433
00:26:27,847 --> 00:26:29,675
that you had to know
a guy who knew a guy,
434
00:26:29,718 --> 00:26:31,633
and then you had to get in
the mail in a brown envelope,
435
00:26:31,677 --> 00:26:34,810
were made by a group
of people who in no way
436
00:26:34,854 --> 00:26:36,464
was this titillating to them.
437
00:26:36,507 --> 00:26:37,857
They didn't even
really understand
438
00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:39,598
it on any sexuality level.
439
00:26:41,164 --> 00:26:43,689
This was business. There
are guys who will pay money
440
00:26:43,732 --> 00:26:46,909
to get special boots made,
and for women to just do
441
00:26:46,953 --> 00:26:49,042
something really specific,
like dance around
442
00:26:49,085 --> 00:26:51,087
with this little stuffed clown.
443
00:26:56,353 --> 00:26:59,618
Bettie came down
in 1954 on a vacation.
444
00:27:02,185 --> 00:27:04,448
There was someone in New York
that Bunny had worked with
445
00:27:04,492 --> 00:27:09,540
who told her about Bettie,
and they connected that way.
446
00:27:21,857 --> 00:27:24,817
The first shoot she
did was at a studio
447
00:27:24,860 --> 00:27:27,820
where she just had
a ordinary backdrop.
448
00:27:37,743 --> 00:27:40,746
The second shoot
was at Africa USA.
449
00:27:40,789 --> 00:27:43,052
โช I declare sure enough
450
00:27:43,096 --> 00:27:46,403
โช I'm a hot mama
451
00:27:46,447 --> 00:27:49,450
โช I know about me
452
00:27:49,493 --> 00:27:51,365
I tried to
tell Bunny, I said,
453
00:27:51,408 --> 00:27:53,846
"Bunny, I've got circles under
my eyes and I feel terrible."
454
00:27:53,889 --> 00:27:55,848
I said, "I don't
feel like posing."
455
00:27:55,891 --> 00:27:58,938
She says, "Bettie, I had to
pay money to Little Africa
456
00:27:58,981 --> 00:28:02,158
to use it this morning," she
said, "We have to do it today."
457
00:28:03,551 --> 00:28:05,422
The most popular
pictures ever taken of me
458
00:28:05,466 --> 00:28:08,251
wearing that leopard outfit,
and you can see circles,
459
00:28:08,295 --> 00:28:09,862
deep circles under my eyes.
460
00:28:11,167 --> 00:28:13,126
โช Yeah I'm warning
all you chicks โช
461
00:28:13,169 --> 00:28:15,737
And those are the images
she sent to Playboy.
462
00:28:17,608 --> 00:28:21,395
Playboy sent back a response
saying, "We love these,
463
00:28:21,438 --> 00:28:25,181
but we only use
indoor photographs
for our centerfolds."
464
00:28:25,225 --> 00:28:27,444
"Can you shoot her indoors?"
465
00:28:27,488 --> 00:28:29,882
โช Hot mama
466
00:28:29,925 --> 00:28:32,145
And that's what she did, she
went and she photographed her
467
00:28:32,188 --> 00:28:34,538
with the Christmas tree
and the Christmas hat.
468
00:28:34,582 --> 00:28:37,890
And that became the
January 55 centerfold,
469
00:28:37,933 --> 00:28:39,587
and they both became famous.
470
00:28:41,284 --> 00:28:42,808
I didn't know that
Bunny Yeager was gonna send
471
00:28:42,851 --> 00:28:46,333
pictures to Mr. Hefner
for "Playboy Magazine."
472
00:28:46,376 --> 00:28:49,031
I look like I've got a saggy,
there's just one breast
473
00:28:49,075 --> 00:28:50,598
showing in the
picture, you know?
474
00:28:50,641 --> 00:28:52,469
That little Santa Claus
hat and I'm winking,
475
00:28:52,513 --> 00:28:55,864
with a little Christmas tree
ball covering you know where.
476
00:28:57,648 --> 00:29:01,783
Being in Playboy at that
moment was kind of it,
477
00:29:01,827 --> 00:29:04,786
if you were the kind of model
who took her clothes off.
478
00:29:04,830 --> 00:29:09,704
Bettie Page would not have
received the kind of accolades
479
00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:13,839
and star quality that
stayed with her forever
480
00:29:13,882 --> 00:29:16,624
without appearing in
the pages of Playboy.
481
00:29:16,667 --> 00:29:19,758
And, of course, Bunny
made her a celebrity.
482
00:29:27,026 --> 00:29:29,593
The collaboration of
Bettie Page and Bunny Yeager
483
00:29:29,637 --> 00:29:31,726
changed both of their lives.
484
00:29:33,380 --> 00:29:36,296
Before working
with Bunny Yeager,
485
00:29:36,339 --> 00:29:39,821
Bettie Page was
considered a fetish model,
486
00:29:39,865 --> 00:29:44,913
it had very little to do
with celebrating Bettie Page.
487
00:29:46,132 --> 00:29:47,873
Bunny Yeager
celebrated Bettie Page.
488
00:29:49,570 --> 00:29:52,094
My favorite pictures of
Bettie are the ones of her
489
00:29:52,138 --> 00:29:54,183
surrounded by the lush foliage.
490
00:29:55,532 --> 00:29:57,621
It was always sort
of like a playful
491
00:29:57,665 --> 00:29:59,928
sense of herself
in those images.
492
00:30:01,321 --> 00:30:02,844
That's one of the things
I loved about her,
493
00:30:02,888 --> 00:30:04,715
and I think that made
her so memorable.
494
00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:07,457
Not the nudity aspect, but the
fact that everything she did
495
00:30:07,501 --> 00:30:10,852
was sort of in a
light, playful manner,
496
00:30:10,896 --> 00:30:13,028
and she made it all seem fun.
497
00:30:18,686 --> 00:30:21,384
For all of Bunny's photos,
I find that there's a kind
498
00:30:21,428 --> 00:30:25,388
of joyousness to them,
a celebratory quality.
499
00:30:26,825 --> 00:30:30,176
That attitude in the
1950s was unthinkable,
500
00:30:30,219 --> 00:30:32,047
and approaching it with
that kind of innocence
501
00:30:32,091 --> 00:30:34,223
is one of the common connections
502
00:30:34,267 --> 00:30:37,357
that Marilyn Monroe
shares with Bettie Page.
503
00:30:46,061 --> 00:30:49,064
A flood tide of filth
is engulfing our country
504
00:30:49,108 --> 00:30:52,154
in the form of
newsstand obscenity.
505
00:30:52,198 --> 00:30:55,549
That is directly responsible
for a substantial amount
506
00:30:55,592 --> 00:30:58,247
of juvenile delinquency
and child crime.
507
00:30:58,291 --> 00:31:01,511
This continues to
increase for one reason,
508
00:31:01,555 --> 00:31:03,731
it is big business.
509
00:31:05,646 --> 00:31:07,822
You're really looking at a
choice that women were making
510
00:31:07,866 --> 00:31:10,433
to get involved with pinup
photography at the time.
511
00:31:10,477 --> 00:31:12,609
That was a lot more
complicated than just,
512
00:31:12,653 --> 00:31:14,046
I'm willing to
take my clothes off
513
00:31:14,089 --> 00:31:16,265
in front of a camera, yes or no.
514
00:31:18,615 --> 00:31:23,707
Playboy was this magazine
that, sure it was about sex,
515
00:31:25,361 --> 00:31:26,972
but it was also about jazz
and it was about fashion,
516
00:31:27,015 --> 00:31:28,799
and it was about
who you should think
517
00:31:28,843 --> 00:31:30,627
the cool new writers are.
518
00:31:30,671 --> 00:31:35,502
The names of the writers
that came to us as a result
519
00:31:36,851 --> 00:31:39,071
of their wanting to
appear in our pages,
520
00:31:39,114 --> 00:31:41,421
there was no other
magazine at the time
521
00:31:41,464 --> 00:31:43,336
with that kind of a mix.
522
00:31:44,685 --> 00:31:48,602
First issue came out
in December of 1953,
523
00:31:48,645 --> 00:31:50,125
and we sold out.
524
00:31:51,344 --> 00:31:54,390
And then we proceeded
to staff up.
525
00:31:55,957 --> 00:31:57,480
And then we started
purchasing from independent
526
00:31:57,524 --> 00:32:00,048
photographers before we
began shooting our own,
527
00:32:00,092 --> 00:32:02,050
and it was how I became
familiar with Bunny Yeager.
528
00:32:02,094 --> 00:32:04,618
And Bunny Yeager then
became a regular contributor
529
00:32:04,661 --> 00:32:06,185
to Playboy and a good friend.
530
00:32:07,882 --> 00:32:10,711
Bunny had a style of her
own, and she really captured
531
00:32:10,754 --> 00:32:12,321
that girl next door quality.
532
00:32:12,365 --> 00:32:14,019
And that is one of the things
533
00:32:14,062 --> 00:32:16,456
that Hefner felt
was so valuable.
534
00:32:22,636 --> 00:32:24,203
She was a
little adventuresome,
535
00:32:24,246 --> 00:32:26,335
so she was the girl
you could marry
536
00:32:26,379 --> 00:32:28,468
who would do fun
stuff in the bedroom.
537
00:32:30,078 --> 00:32:33,168
It wasn't really an easy
thing to accomplish back then,
538
00:32:33,212 --> 00:32:37,390
because we had strong moral
restrictions in America.
539
00:32:39,044 --> 00:32:41,742
Love seemed to
be all that really mattered,
540
00:32:41,785 --> 00:32:43,613
but each of them knew deep down
541
00:32:43,657 --> 00:32:46,921
that they wanted their marriage
vows to have real meaning.
542
00:32:46,965 --> 00:32:48,662
It was easy to
get a bunch of strippers,
543
00:32:48,705 --> 00:32:51,926
it was very hard to get
an ordinary secretary.
544
00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:55,321
The idea that a woman would
want to be involved in it,
545
00:32:55,364 --> 00:32:58,280
would wanna produce
material for it was perfect.
546
00:32:58,324 --> 00:32:59,890
It was something
they could advertise,
547
00:32:59,934 --> 00:33:03,068
it was something that
could bring in readers.
548
00:33:03,111 --> 00:33:05,461
But the suggestion back then,
549
00:33:06,506 --> 00:33:08,247
that sex was simply a natural,
550
00:33:08,290 --> 00:33:12,512
normal part of life,
was very revolutionary.
551
00:33:12,555 --> 00:33:15,341
For however
many faults he might have come
552
00:33:15,384 --> 00:33:20,215
to be associated with, Hugh
Hefner was willing to take
553
00:33:20,259 --> 00:33:24,263
the input of a woman very
seriously from the beginning
554
00:33:24,306 --> 00:33:27,048
in the voice and
look of the magazine.
555
00:33:27,092 --> 00:33:31,270
Not only was she the
first female photographer
556
00:33:31,313 --> 00:33:34,751
to shoot for Playboy, she was
one of the first photographers
557
00:33:34,795 --> 00:33:36,623
to shoot for Playboy at all.
558
00:33:36,666 --> 00:33:39,278
Hefner had a very
special feeling for Bunny
559
00:33:41,062 --> 00:33:44,848
because she delivered and she
delivered time and time again.
560
00:33:44,892 --> 00:33:49,288
The closest relationship he
ever had to a photographer
561
00:33:49,331 --> 00:33:50,680
was with Bunny Yeager.
562
00:33:54,032 --> 00:33:57,252
"Dear Bunny, I imagine
you received our check
563
00:33:57,296 --> 00:34:00,038
for slightly over $1,000
564
00:34:00,081 --> 00:34:03,606
for your September
feature, Bunny's Honeys."
565
00:34:05,347 --> 00:34:07,567
Her involvement
with the magazine went deeper
566
00:34:07,610 --> 00:34:11,005
than just the
centerfolds she shot.
567
00:34:11,049 --> 00:34:13,529
She would also bring
models to their attention,
568
00:34:13,573 --> 00:34:15,966
who maybe their centerfolds
would end up being shot
569
00:34:16,010 --> 00:34:18,099
on site and not by her.
570
00:34:18,143 --> 00:34:21,276
She was very involved in
promoting the Playboy Club
571
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,148
when it came down to Miami.
572
00:34:24,845 --> 00:34:28,675
Bunny Yeager really helps
define the look and voice
573
00:34:28,718 --> 00:34:32,287
of Playboy in the early
50s and in the mid 50s.
574
00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:42,776
As magazines like Playboy made
it more culturally acceptable
575
00:34:42,819 --> 00:34:45,039
to take off your clothes
in front of the camera,
576
00:34:45,083 --> 00:34:49,043
women started trying to get
that notoriety, you know?
577
00:34:49,087 --> 00:34:54,004
Get that ability to use that
as a career stepping stone.
578
00:34:54,048 --> 00:34:58,183
Here were people, these
housewives, with no agency,
579
00:34:58,226 --> 00:35:02,665
with no creative expression,
who were not really allowed
580
00:35:02,709 --> 00:35:05,059
to go out and have a career.
581
00:35:05,103 --> 00:35:06,974
People were putting them
in front of the camera
582
00:35:07,017 --> 00:35:09,542
and saying, "You are special."
583
00:35:09,585 --> 00:35:13,589
It was just something
exciting for them to do,
584
00:35:13,633 --> 00:35:16,114
it was a form of
Hollywood for them.
585
00:35:17,767 --> 00:35:19,900
I talked to my dad about
that when I was a teenager.
586
00:35:19,943 --> 00:35:22,642
I berated him for
looking at the Playboys,
587
00:35:22,685 --> 00:35:24,383
and I said, why would
you look at Playboys
588
00:35:24,426 --> 00:35:26,602
when you have mom here?
589
00:35:26,646 --> 00:35:28,648
And he says, well,
I read the articles.
590
00:35:28,691 --> 00:35:30,824
And it's like, who
are you kidding?
591
00:35:36,395 --> 00:35:39,572
โช You come home
592
00:35:39,615 --> 00:35:44,707
โช You come into my home
593
00:35:46,144 --> 00:35:48,233
โช And there's there's
nothing more child โช
594
00:35:48,276 --> 00:35:50,800
โช I can say when you
595
00:35:50,844 --> 00:35:52,498
When she started
working for Playboy,
596
00:35:52,541 --> 00:35:54,630
she was making
really good money.
597
00:35:54,674 --> 00:35:57,503
I mean, for those years,
really good money.
598
00:36:00,462 --> 00:36:04,205
What we think we know about
Hugh Hefner is he loved women,
599
00:36:04,249 --> 00:36:07,208
and he wanted to own
and control women.
600
00:36:07,252 --> 00:36:11,256
But I must tell you,
frankly, that I am being taken
601
00:36:11,299 --> 00:36:14,215
advantage of in
this association.
602
00:36:14,259 --> 00:36:19,351
And that it is becoming more
and more a very one-sided deal,
603
00:36:20,787 --> 00:36:23,093
with Playboy getting the
short end of the stick.
604
00:36:23,137 --> 00:36:26,314
And what we think we
know about Bunny Yeager
605
00:36:26,358 --> 00:36:31,058
is she wanted more,
and she needed more.
606
00:36:31,101 --> 00:36:34,279
She told me that when she
really felt that she'd made it
607
00:36:34,322 --> 00:36:36,324
was when she published
her first book,
608
00:36:36,368 --> 00:36:39,371
"How to Photograph
the Female Figure."
609
00:36:39,414 --> 00:36:42,809
That book sold close
to 200,000 copies.
610
00:36:45,072 --> 00:36:47,857
Writing was definitely
one of her passions.
611
00:36:47,901 --> 00:36:50,947
She, I think, published like
20 books in her lifetime.
612
00:36:52,645 --> 00:36:54,995
From New York,
"The Tonight Show," starring-
613
00:36:55,038 --> 00:36:58,390
She had an
incredible drive to be respected
614
00:36:58,433 --> 00:37:00,740
for how hard she worked
and how good she was.
615
00:37:00,783 --> 00:37:02,263
A photographer, Bunny Yeager.
616
00:37:02,307 --> 00:37:03,960
We have
a young lady with us
617
00:37:04,004 --> 00:37:05,484
who's made a reputation
in this country
618
00:37:05,527 --> 00:37:08,443
as one of the fine
photographers of gals.
619
00:37:09,836 --> 00:37:12,186
Would you welcome Miss
Bunny Yeager? Bunny.
620
00:37:14,188 --> 00:37:16,059
But now you photograph
yourself also, don't you?
621
00:37:16,103 --> 00:37:18,845
Oh yes, of
course. Doesn't everyone?
622
00:37:18,888 --> 00:37:20,760
Not that
I know of, I mean,
623
00:37:20,803 --> 00:37:22,152
how do you know that you have
the expression that you want?
624
00:37:22,196 --> 00:37:23,850
Sometimes
I use a mirror,
625
00:37:23,893 --> 00:37:25,330
I put a full length mirror
right next to the camera
626
00:37:25,373 --> 00:37:27,114
and then I can see
just what I want.
627
00:37:27,157 --> 00:37:29,247
Now that I'm more experienced,
I don't need a mirror,
628
00:37:29,290 --> 00:37:31,118
I just know what I'm doing.
629
00:37:31,161 --> 00:37:32,685
You take mostly
glamour photography, don't you?
630
00:37:32,728 --> 00:37:33,512
I mean, would that be
the correct terminology?
631
00:37:33,555 --> 00:37:34,295
That's right.
632
00:37:36,602 --> 00:37:38,995
Facial expressions for
glamour photography,
633
00:37:39,039 --> 00:37:40,910
amused, laughing,
grinning, giggling,
634
00:37:40,954 --> 00:37:43,304
playful, animated, contented,
tranquil, charming, seductive,
635
00:37:43,348 --> 00:37:45,480
sensual, surprised,
serene, coy, wanting,
636
00:37:45,524 --> 00:37:48,178
interested, calm, provocative
teasing, awe-inspiring,
637
00:37:48,222 --> 00:37:50,572
modest, flirty,
alluring, wistful.
638
00:37:50,616 --> 00:37:52,487
You mean a good
model can do that?
639
00:37:52,531 --> 00:37:54,097
A good
model has to do that.
640
00:37:54,141 --> 00:37:56,665
Anyone can smile,
but how many people
641
00:37:56,709 --> 00:37:57,840
can do those expressions?
642
00:37:57,884 --> 00:37:59,538
I really don't know.
643
00:38:01,104 --> 00:38:03,106
Bunny was always
trying to look ahead
644
00:38:03,150 --> 00:38:06,980
and see, you know,
where culture was going.
645
00:38:09,417 --> 00:38:10,549
And, of
course, at that time
646
00:38:10,592 --> 00:38:12,159
with the Supreme Court ruling
647
00:38:12,202 --> 00:38:14,944
about nudist films,
everyone decided,
648
00:38:14,988 --> 00:38:17,120
I'm gonna do a nudist film.
649
00:38:17,164 --> 00:38:19,775
โช You come home
650
00:38:19,819 --> 00:38:22,212
People like Doris Wishman,
651
00:38:22,256 --> 00:38:24,737
she did, of course,
"Nude on the Moon,"
652
00:38:24,780 --> 00:38:27,479
which Bunny helped cast
some of the models for that.
653
00:38:36,662 --> 00:38:40,318
She loved being on film sets,
she was an extra in many films
654
00:38:40,361 --> 00:38:42,581
just because she
loved movies so much.
655
00:38:44,060 --> 00:38:45,366
Will you take
care of Mr. Norman?
656
00:38:45,410 --> 00:38:47,150
Certainly, come
on, Mr. Norman.
657
00:38:47,194 --> 00:38:48,630
Oh boy, how are you?
658
00:38:48,674 --> 00:38:50,676
And why don't you
just call me Bunny?
659
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:51,894
Oh, I can.
660
00:38:54,070 --> 00:38:58,336
My grandma took all
of the white swimsuit photos
661
00:38:58,379 --> 00:39:00,338
of Ursula Andres on that set.
662
00:39:00,381 --> 00:39:02,949
They were used for
the movie posters.
663
00:39:05,517 --> 00:39:08,346
Bunny worked on a lot
of movies in Florida.
664
00:39:08,389 --> 00:39:11,218
She helped write
script, she did casting,
665
00:39:11,261 --> 00:39:13,481
she did production,
she did acting.
666
00:39:15,353 --> 00:39:17,746
Tom was still working
with another model,
667
00:39:17,790 --> 00:39:21,402
and since we had time to
spare, we paused to watch
668
00:39:21,446 --> 00:39:25,798
this willowy blonde in a
series of calendar poses.
669
00:39:31,717 --> 00:39:34,459
Bunny and her husband,
they saw what was happening
670
00:39:34,502 --> 00:39:35,982
in the film business,
671
00:39:36,025 --> 00:39:37,636
that a lot of people
were making money.
672
00:39:41,814 --> 00:39:44,904
So they decided they were
gonna make some films.
673
00:39:44,947 --> 00:39:49,082
They made three films,
"Orgy of Revenge,"
674
00:39:49,125 --> 00:39:52,564
"Sextet," and "Room 11."
675
00:39:52,607 --> 00:39:56,481
These would've been
x-rated films at that time,
676
00:39:56,524 --> 00:39:59,309
by today's standards
probably R-rated films.
677
00:40:01,181 --> 00:40:04,358
Bunny and Bud did very
well on the first movie,
678
00:40:04,402 --> 00:40:06,491
but they had issues
with their distributor,
679
00:40:06,534 --> 00:40:08,493
so they never really
recouped the money
680
00:40:08,536 --> 00:40:10,930
from the second two films.
681
00:40:13,411 --> 00:40:16,196
Well, my parents always
talked about their work,
682
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,765
so I knew from the get go
that they were doing this.
683
00:40:19,808 --> 00:40:22,594
Mom or dad actually
asked me to draw the logo
684
00:40:22,637 --> 00:40:26,815
for one of the films, that was
during my high school years.
685
00:40:26,859 --> 00:40:30,340
Certainly not something I
wanted anybody to know about.
686
00:40:31,994 --> 00:40:36,042
I often wonder what it was
like to be in Bunny's home
687
00:40:36,085 --> 00:40:38,044
in the 50s and 60s.
688
00:40:39,741 --> 00:40:43,266
She both brought her work home,
689
00:40:43,310 --> 00:40:46,792
but also kept her home orbit,
690
00:40:46,835 --> 00:40:49,490
in a lot of ways,
completely isolated.
691
00:40:53,929 --> 00:40:57,846
She wanted it all, she wanted
to have this picture perfect
692
00:40:57,890 --> 00:40:59,718
vision of herself as
a wife and mother.
693
00:40:59,761 --> 00:41:04,549
And she also wanted to
have this really daring,
694
00:41:04,592 --> 00:41:07,639
you know, career that nobody
could have plotted for her.
695
00:41:09,075 --> 00:41:10,903
She was always gonna
be more cool than me.
696
00:41:10,946 --> 00:41:14,994
I remember when I was in seventh
grade, she had this outfit
697
00:41:15,037 --> 00:41:17,387
where she had one of
those little caps,
698
00:41:17,431 --> 00:41:21,522
brimmed caps that were popular
at the time in the late 60s,
699
00:41:21,566 --> 00:41:23,916
a miniskirt, and go-go boots.
700
00:41:23,959 --> 00:41:26,396
Now, you can't
compete with that.
701
00:41:30,836 --> 00:41:32,664
Definitely as an adult now,
702
00:41:32,707 --> 00:41:35,667
I can see that my life was very
different than most people.
703
00:41:35,710 --> 00:41:37,799
But you have to remember
that everything I see
704
00:41:37,843 --> 00:41:39,540
is through a deaf lens.
705
00:41:39,584 --> 00:41:41,499
I think it's different
because I was a deaf kid,
706
00:41:41,542 --> 00:41:43,501
not because of who my mom was.
707
00:41:48,157 --> 00:41:51,813
My dad was Arthur Irwin,
he was known as Bud.
708
00:41:53,554 --> 00:41:56,688
He was a police officer, and
eventually became a detective.
709
00:41:58,385 --> 00:42:01,040
He did that for many, many
years before he left the job
710
00:42:01,083 --> 00:42:02,563
to work with my mother.
711
00:42:02,607 --> 00:42:04,478
I have to say that
my parents didn't have
712
00:42:04,522 --> 00:42:06,524
a lot of personal friends,
713
00:42:06,567 --> 00:42:09,701
I feel like most of
their friends were
business associates.
714
00:42:09,744 --> 00:42:13,922
They were very much
into each other.
715
00:42:13,966 --> 00:42:17,230
They were very close, they
were each other's best friends.
716
00:42:18,187 --> 00:42:20,102
They were a big love story.
717
00:42:22,365 --> 00:42:24,150
Him and my mother
718
00:42:24,193 --> 00:42:26,152
always worked together, he
eventually began helping her
719
00:42:26,195 --> 00:42:28,415
to get the equipment ready.
720
00:42:28,458 --> 00:42:32,158
He also served as protection
for some of the models.
721
00:42:34,682 --> 00:42:36,945
A police detective
cannot support
722
00:42:36,989 --> 00:42:39,121
his family in Miami Shores.
723
00:42:39,165 --> 00:42:41,254
That's not the kind of people
that live in Miami Shores,
724
00:42:41,297 --> 00:42:43,996
so it was mom's photo
money that allowed us
725
00:42:44,039 --> 00:42:46,041
to live in such a
nice neighborhood.
726
00:42:47,782 --> 00:42:50,219
I mean, it took time, she was
always having ideas of things.
727
00:42:50,263 --> 00:42:52,439
She was very
devoted to her work,
728
00:42:52,482 --> 00:42:56,661
and sometimes that left
me feeling kinda left out.
729
00:43:01,143 --> 00:43:03,972
As the 60s
go on, and she's working
730
00:43:04,016 --> 00:43:06,975
with models who have
grown up in a culture
731
00:43:07,019 --> 00:43:09,456
that has a little bit
more sexual liberation,
732
00:43:09,499 --> 00:43:11,850
there's a lot more daringness,
733
00:43:11,893 --> 00:43:15,244
a lot more
untidiness, let's say.
734
00:43:16,463 --> 00:43:18,421
Instead of the
Bouffant Beauties,
735
00:43:18,465 --> 00:43:20,554
who she worked with
for a long time,
736
00:43:20,598 --> 00:43:23,644
you get these
long-haired hippies,
737
00:43:23,688 --> 00:43:27,474
these really just
natural beauties.
738
00:43:28,910 --> 00:43:32,653
Into the late 60s
and the early 70s,
739
00:43:32,697 --> 00:43:36,048
when suddenly they
wanted to see genitals,
740
00:43:36,091 --> 00:43:38,093
it was a huge bar.
741
00:43:38,137 --> 00:43:42,402
Women did not feel
proud of their pussies.
742
00:43:42,445 --> 00:43:44,534
They didn't have
any ego about that.
743
00:43:44,578 --> 00:43:46,885
That was a part they didn't
want people to look at,
744
00:43:46,928 --> 00:43:48,887
and it was a huge barrier.
745
00:43:48,930 --> 00:43:51,454
And it meant a complete
change in the kind of women
746
00:43:51,498 --> 00:43:53,152
who would take
their clothes off.
747
00:44:00,855 --> 00:44:05,033
I think that nudity, it's
really a cyclical phenomenon.
748
00:44:05,077 --> 00:44:09,211
I think it comes, it gets
very liberal and extreme,
749
00:44:09,255 --> 00:44:11,387
and it goes back,
reacts the other way.
750
00:44:11,431 --> 00:44:14,129
And it just seems to be
a cycle in entertainment.
751
00:44:15,914 --> 00:44:19,744
Being a figure
in Miami put Bunny
752
00:44:19,787 --> 00:44:24,879
in a really optimal
position to get involved
753
00:44:26,228 --> 00:44:27,882
in the next wave of
sexual expression.
754
00:44:32,147 --> 00:44:33,801
When you
get into the 70s,
755
00:44:33,845 --> 00:44:37,152
suddenly artistry just
wasn't important anymore.
756
00:44:38,676 --> 00:44:40,634
Nobody cared about
pinup in the 70s,
757
00:44:40,678 --> 00:44:42,723
it was kinda like that
was old fashioned.
758
00:44:42,767 --> 00:44:45,726
Guccione, with Penthouse,
introduced pubic hair.
759
00:44:45,770 --> 00:44:47,772
Playboy waited about a year,
760
00:44:47,815 --> 00:44:50,383
and then they came
out with pubic hair.
761
00:44:57,825 --> 00:44:59,784
Then you got a guy
named Larry Flint.
762
00:45:01,002 --> 00:45:03,918
He came out in
1976 with Hustler.
763
00:45:07,792 --> 00:45:10,316
This was another revolution.
764
00:45:10,359 --> 00:45:12,797
Was a market chef, Larry Flint
765
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,843
and his enterprises
and Penthouse Magazine.
766
00:45:15,887 --> 00:45:19,412
All that was important
was getting the genitals,
767
00:45:19,455 --> 00:45:21,675
get those genitals in your face.
768
00:45:24,025 --> 00:45:26,941
You know, that's
just hardcore porn.
769
00:45:26,985 --> 00:45:30,031
You don't need a great
photographer like
Bunny to do that.
770
00:45:30,075 --> 00:45:33,861
Bunny did try somewhat
to adapt to the new market,
771
00:45:35,820 --> 00:45:37,604
but when they wouldn't
accept her work,
772
00:45:37,647 --> 00:45:40,128
she wasn't willing
to compromise.
773
00:45:41,477 --> 00:45:43,479
She was struggling
to still try to do
774
00:45:43,523 --> 00:45:46,395
the same kind of
milder photography
775
00:45:46,439 --> 00:45:48,571
that had made her
success in the beginning
776
00:45:48,615 --> 00:45:50,182
without a real audience.
777
00:45:51,879 --> 00:45:55,622
As pinup gets
overshadowed by porn,
778
00:45:55,665 --> 00:45:57,798
Bunny really starts
to pull back.
779
00:45:57,842 --> 00:46:00,670
There was a period where mom
couldn't cross that line,
780
00:46:00,714 --> 00:46:02,716
because the photos
were getting so trashy
781
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,459
in the men's magazines, they
were not at all respectful.
782
00:46:06,502 --> 00:46:08,896
Then in the late
60s and early 70s,
783
00:46:08,940 --> 00:46:11,856
feminism was kind of born in
that generation's incarnation.
784
00:46:11,899 --> 00:46:15,294
And it was extremely
anti pornography and,
785
00:46:15,337 --> 00:46:17,165
by association, anti nudity.
786
00:46:17,209 --> 00:46:18,819
The marchers' aim was clear,
787
00:46:18,863 --> 00:46:20,821
let's kill the $4
billion industry
788
00:46:20,865 --> 00:46:23,911
that exploits females and
female bodies, young and old.
789
00:46:23,955 --> 00:46:25,521
It has nothing to do with sex,
790
00:46:25,565 --> 00:46:28,307
with love, with
erotica, it is violence.
791
00:46:28,350 --> 00:46:33,007
And in most of the cases of
rapists and child abusers
792
00:46:33,051 --> 00:46:35,705
who have been questioned,
they have said very clearly
793
00:46:35,749 --> 00:46:37,446
that they were practicing
794
00:46:37,490 --> 00:46:40,319
what they had seen
demonstrated in pornography.
795
00:46:41,450 --> 00:46:42,930
As I got older,
796
00:46:42,974 --> 00:46:46,020
I started to be more
embarrassed about it.
797
00:46:46,064 --> 00:46:50,285
I didn't want my friends to
know what mom did for a living.
798
00:46:56,509 --> 00:46:58,380
I
remember the first time
799
00:46:58,424 --> 00:47:01,470
that I ever felt strange
about it was when my sister,
800
00:47:01,514 --> 00:47:05,431
Cherilu, began to feel
embarrassed about it.
801
00:47:07,259 --> 00:47:09,739
She came to me telling me
how she felt it was wrong,
802
00:47:09,783 --> 00:47:12,046
what mom was doing
and that it was dirty,
803
00:47:12,090 --> 00:47:13,787
and I didn't agree with that.
804
00:47:13,831 --> 00:47:15,963
I feel like that should
be something private,
805
00:47:16,007 --> 00:47:19,837
that kind of exposure, not
just for anybody to see.
806
00:47:24,624 --> 00:47:26,321
The 70s were
really tough for her.
807
00:47:28,628 --> 00:47:32,240
She had to come up with
some alternative income.
808
00:47:33,851 --> 00:47:38,681
A police officer approached
her to do a job for him,
809
00:47:38,725 --> 00:47:42,555
and it was of a picture of
a man and woman together.
810
00:47:42,598 --> 00:47:44,035
And that was the kind of picture
811
00:47:44,078 --> 00:47:46,472
that she hadn't done
up to that point.
812
00:47:46,515 --> 00:47:50,389
In the mid 70s, Bunny Yeager
was charged with obscenity
813
00:47:50,432 --> 00:47:53,479
for shooting sexual content.
814
00:47:56,395 --> 00:48:01,487
A woman, an outspoken,
pushy, famous woman
815
00:48:02,749 --> 00:48:04,925
is the easiest
target to bring down.
816
00:48:07,014 --> 00:48:09,451
It was a ridiculous charge.
817
00:48:09,495 --> 00:48:13,151
They believed that it was
retribution for Bud's work
818
00:48:13,194 --> 00:48:14,543
with the police department,
819
00:48:14,587 --> 00:48:16,545
'cause he was in
internal affairs.
820
00:48:18,069 --> 00:48:19,548
My
mom said, "If I'm guilty,
821
00:48:19,592 --> 00:48:21,202
I will be going to
jail for 15 years."
822
00:48:23,378 --> 00:48:27,426
Her lawyer went down
to the courthouse lobby
823
00:48:27,469 --> 00:48:29,863
and picked up a men's magazine
824
00:48:29,907 --> 00:48:32,126
and brought it to the
courtroom and said,
825
00:48:32,170 --> 00:48:34,955
"Look, this is what's for
sale down in your lobby,
826
00:48:34,999 --> 00:48:38,437
and she's being charged with
this same kind of thing."
827
00:48:39,525 --> 00:48:41,875
And so, the case was dismissed.
828
00:48:58,718 --> 00:49:01,329
I don't wanna
speak for her family
829
00:49:01,373 --> 00:49:05,638
to the devastating
consequences that had on them.
830
00:49:07,727 --> 00:49:10,338
I had
come home for spring break.
831
00:49:12,036 --> 00:49:13,994
I was so excited to jump in
the swimming pool at home,
832
00:49:14,038 --> 00:49:16,257
I missed it so much.
833
00:49:16,301 --> 00:49:18,607
And as soon as I got in,
I looked and the pool
834
00:49:18,651 --> 00:49:22,568
was untaken care of, the water
was green, it was disgusting.
835
00:49:22,611 --> 00:49:23,961
And I ran back in the house,
836
00:49:24,004 --> 00:49:25,484
like, "What's wrong
with the pool?"
837
00:49:25,527 --> 00:49:27,355
"I was looking so
forward to swimming."
838
00:49:27,399 --> 00:49:28,487
They said, "We
don't have the money
839
00:49:28,530 --> 00:49:30,576
to have the pool cleaned."
840
00:49:34,884 --> 00:49:38,236
There was some embarrassment
over that arrest.
841
00:49:38,279 --> 00:49:42,675
My dad was becoming an
alcoholic, he was depressed.
842
00:49:42,718 --> 00:49:46,070
Bud really blamed
himself for Bunny being charged.
843
00:49:47,636 --> 00:49:49,464
It just sent
him into some depression.
844
00:49:51,423 --> 00:49:54,774
Dad tried to take his
life, he took pills.
845
00:49:56,123 --> 00:49:59,431
Mom found him and called
for the ambulance.
846
00:49:59,474 --> 00:50:01,650
They pumped his stomach
and he survived.
847
00:50:06,655 --> 00:50:08,092
My husband and I got married,
848
00:50:08,135 --> 00:50:11,051
and two weeks later
I got a telegram.
849
00:50:17,579 --> 00:50:19,451
He took his life using a gun.
850
00:50:22,845 --> 00:50:26,284
He was in the front
seat of one of the cars,
851
00:50:26,327 --> 00:50:29,156
and mom and Lisa found
him the next morning.
852
00:50:33,726 --> 00:50:34,857
I
had gotten up very early
853
00:50:34,901 --> 00:50:36,598
in the morning on a Saturday.
854
00:50:39,645 --> 00:50:41,342
And my mom was in
the same clothes
855
00:50:41,386 --> 00:50:43,649
that she was wearing
from the previous day.
856
00:50:45,172 --> 00:50:46,478
And I went over to mom,
I'm like, "What's wrong?"
857
00:50:46,521 --> 00:50:47,957
"What are you doing here?"
858
00:50:49,220 --> 00:50:50,612
She's like, "I'm
just sitting here,
859
00:50:50,656 --> 00:50:52,353
waiting for your
father to come back."
860
00:50:55,965 --> 00:50:58,055
And I told her, "I'm gonna
go ahead and take a shower,
861
00:50:58,098 --> 00:51:01,275
and get ready
before I call 911."
862
00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:04,713
And when I came outta
the shower, my mom said,
863
00:51:04,757 --> 00:51:08,065
"I found your father's
body in his car."
864
00:51:12,286 --> 00:51:13,418
I was dumbfounded.
865
00:51:21,469 --> 00:51:24,472
Well, I mean,
we were all just devastated.
866
00:51:38,530 --> 00:51:40,184
It was a very tough time,
867
00:51:40,227 --> 00:51:42,925
it really deeply wounded
all of us that were left.
868
00:51:47,930 --> 00:51:51,934
When my kids were growing
up, we moved to Ohio.
869
00:51:51,978 --> 00:51:53,849
I was kind of glad
for the separation,
870
00:51:53,893 --> 00:51:56,983
because I didn't want the
kids to love the photos.
871
00:51:58,376 --> 00:51:59,507
It
was a really hard time
872
00:51:59,551 --> 00:52:01,118
economically in our household.
873
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,471
After Bunny pulls back
from pinup photography,
874
00:52:06,514 --> 00:52:09,474
she starts to focus on
other aspects of her work.
875
00:52:10,866 --> 00:52:14,522
She does a lot of
headshot photographing,
876
00:52:14,566 --> 00:52:16,829
she does commercial
photographing.
877
00:52:16,872 --> 00:52:21,181
She teaches classes,
puts herself out there,
878
00:52:21,225 --> 00:52:23,749
taking bit parts in TV shows,
879
00:52:23,792 --> 00:52:26,230
does boudoir photography.
880
00:52:28,449 --> 00:52:31,278
She started performing,
she had a singing act,
881
00:52:31,322 --> 00:52:32,975
a nightclub act.
882
00:52:33,019 --> 00:52:34,499
She had
a beautiful voice,
883
00:52:34,542 --> 00:52:36,196
she could have done
that as her profession.
884
00:52:37,502 --> 00:52:40,113
โช Pack up all my care and whoa
885
00:52:40,157 --> 00:52:42,202
โช Here I go swinging low
886
00:52:42,246 --> 00:52:46,815
She has a second act
that's wildly different
887
00:52:46,859 --> 00:52:50,297
than her heyday
as a photographer,
888
00:52:50,341 --> 00:52:53,387
and she scrambles
to make a living.
889
00:52:53,431 --> 00:52:55,955
โช Bye bye
890
00:52:55,998 --> 00:52:57,435
โช Blackbird
891
00:52:57,478 --> 00:52:58,871
I had a hard time
understanding mom,
892
00:52:58,914 --> 00:53:02,570
because she would do things
893
00:53:02,614 --> 00:53:06,748
that she was not qualified to
do, so to speak, officially.
894
00:53:06,792 --> 00:53:09,273
Like, she wrote a diet book.
895
00:53:09,316 --> 00:53:11,579
Well, mom's not a dietician.
896
00:53:13,277 --> 00:53:15,714
Now, she did have a lot of
experience dieting as a model.
897
00:53:21,241 --> 00:53:22,895
After
my sister's wedding,
898
00:53:22,938 --> 00:53:25,724
mom and I lived alone for
probably about a year,
899
00:53:25,767 --> 00:53:27,247
it was just the two of us.
900
00:53:28,901 --> 00:53:32,034
Unfortunately, me and my mom
began to have a lot of conflict
901
00:53:32,078 --> 00:53:34,559
at that time, because
this is when I had learned
902
00:53:34,602 --> 00:53:36,517
that so much of my life
had been kept from me
903
00:53:36,561 --> 00:53:38,345
because they couldn't sign.
904
00:53:38,389 --> 00:53:40,260
And I was starting to feel
very resentful at this time
905
00:53:40,304 --> 00:53:43,132
in my life, and I had met my
first husband at this time,
906
00:53:43,176 --> 00:53:45,265
and we got married and left.
907
00:53:48,442 --> 00:53:53,317
Think about how hard
it is to have been
908
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,494
somebody who's
considered very elite,
909
00:53:56,537 --> 00:54:00,585
and become somebody
who is really
910
00:54:00,628 --> 00:54:03,152
scrambling for economic crumbs.
911
00:54:14,425 --> 00:54:16,731
Then
we kinda lost track of her,
912
00:54:16,775 --> 00:54:19,647
she took no pictures
from 80s to 90s.
913
00:54:21,258 --> 00:54:24,609
She was working in newspaper,
graphic print design.
914
00:54:24,652 --> 00:54:28,352
She was selling different
pieces to magazines
915
00:54:28,395 --> 00:54:31,093
for about 10 years, and
then she stopped doing that.
916
00:54:33,922 --> 00:54:38,013
But there was no profit,
the money was terrible.
917
00:54:40,581 --> 00:54:42,409
The office was
completely closed.
918
00:54:42,453 --> 00:54:45,282
Everything from the office had
been brought into our home,
919
00:54:45,325 --> 00:54:48,546
and our house just held
everything all the time.
920
00:54:48,589 --> 00:54:52,637
There was a fire, and she
lost a lot of her negatives.
921
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,030
She just felt so deflated.
922
00:54:55,074 --> 00:54:56,510
She didn't have a chance
923
00:54:56,554 --> 00:54:59,121
to get back up in a
sense for herself.
924
00:55:01,646 --> 00:55:03,474
In the early 90s, most
of the people that I knew
925
00:55:03,517 --> 00:55:08,087
that collected pinup art, they
were fans of the Rocketeer.
926
00:55:08,130 --> 00:55:11,046
They knew about the
Bettie Pages, and all
these like obscure
927
00:55:11,090 --> 00:55:13,832
little zines where they
could see pictures of Bettie.
928
00:55:15,224 --> 00:55:17,705
People rediscovered
Bettie in the 1990s,
929
00:55:17,749 --> 00:55:22,841
Bettie became this icon
of early female sexuality.
930
00:55:31,023 --> 00:55:32,372
To me, it
was this kind of cipher
931
00:55:32,416 --> 00:55:34,983
where people projected
things onto her,
932
00:55:35,027 --> 00:55:37,116
people thought she was a rebel.
933
00:55:37,159 --> 00:55:40,032
People thought she
was this SM goddess.
934
00:55:41,338 --> 00:55:43,818
A generation of 90s
rockabilly girls
935
00:55:43,862 --> 00:55:45,994
thought she was the style icon.
936
00:55:47,387 --> 00:55:49,563
And the number of
women I saw in the 90s
937
00:55:49,607 --> 00:55:54,133
with Bettie Page bangs, but
like neck tattoos, is a lot.
938
00:55:55,656 --> 00:55:57,571
I think the young people
are embracing, again,
939
00:55:57,615 --> 00:56:00,313
a kind of a retro cool
from the latter 50s
940
00:56:00,357 --> 00:56:02,010
and the 60s and 70s.
941
00:56:02,054 --> 00:56:05,666
In that context, Bettie
Page is truly iconic.
942
00:56:07,581 --> 00:56:10,932
Bunny really leans into
trying to get involved
943
00:56:10,976 --> 00:56:14,283
in the culture that
surrounds Bettie Page.
944
00:56:14,327 --> 00:56:15,415
And
that's when she started trying
945
00:56:15,459 --> 00:56:17,678
to sell some work on eBay,
946
00:56:17,722 --> 00:56:19,593
lithoprints and
that type of stuff.
947
00:56:21,813 --> 00:56:24,424
People who in the past, if
they had wanted, you know,
948
00:56:24,468 --> 00:56:27,122
a signed lithograph
of Bettie Page,
949
00:56:27,166 --> 00:56:29,560
would've had to write her
with a self-addressed,
950
00:56:29,603 --> 00:56:34,695
stamped envelope, can now
go on eBay and just buy it.
951
00:56:43,922 --> 00:56:46,925
After
my mom did that work
952
00:56:46,968 --> 00:56:49,362
of Bettie Page, it seemed
like they lost touch
953
00:56:49,406 --> 00:56:52,321
for a very, very long time.
954
00:56:52,365 --> 00:56:54,019
And that was when
mom finally found out
955
00:56:54,062 --> 00:56:57,239
that she had been put into
a psychiatric hospital,
956
00:56:57,283 --> 00:56:58,980
and was unable to be reached.
957
00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:01,461
Well,
hi there, Bettie.
958
00:57:02,984 --> 00:57:05,204
First, I want to-
- Long time no see.
959
00:57:05,247 --> 00:57:07,119
When I've been
interviewed, they always ask
960
00:57:07,162 --> 00:57:10,470
who I thought was the best
model I ever worked with,
961
00:57:10,514 --> 00:57:13,995
and I've always had to answer
Bettie Page because, you know,
962
00:57:14,039 --> 00:57:16,998
you had a face that I believe
was perfect in every way.
963
00:57:17,042 --> 00:57:18,609
And your body was the kind
964
00:57:18,652 --> 00:57:20,480
that looked natural
when you were nude,
965
00:57:20,524 --> 00:57:22,134
instead of appearing naked.
966
00:57:23,614 --> 00:57:25,485
I think your biggest
asset was your enthusiasm
967
00:57:25,529 --> 00:57:28,053
and your creative
facial expressions
968
00:57:28,096 --> 00:57:30,838
that made you better
than any other model.
969
00:57:32,536 --> 00:57:36,714
I think it was also,
and because I liked posing.
970
00:57:37,541 --> 00:57:39,107
I liked the modeling.
971
00:57:39,151 --> 00:57:42,284
I can make in two hours
more than I would make
972
00:57:42,328 --> 00:57:46,898
40 hours a week doing secretary
work eight hours a day.
973
00:57:48,943 --> 00:57:51,990
It's very rare when
you find an artist
974
00:57:52,033 --> 00:57:53,513
and you look at their work,
975
00:57:53,557 --> 00:57:57,169
and it literally defines
an epoch and a time
976
00:57:57,212 --> 00:57:59,258
because they capture the form
977
00:57:59,301 --> 00:58:01,826
and the shape of that moment.
978
00:58:12,967 --> 00:58:17,537
She captured the
essence of what the bikini
979
00:58:17,581 --> 00:58:19,104
and the girl go together.
980
00:58:22,586 --> 00:58:24,631
It's this
major contribution to style
981
00:58:24,675 --> 00:58:27,025
and popular culture, the bikini,
982
00:58:27,068 --> 00:58:29,375
and nobody knows
that it was Bunny.
983
00:58:33,988 --> 00:58:37,209
There's a famous photo of
her that we've had in galleries
984
00:58:37,252 --> 00:58:40,734
that is her in a daisy
bikini that she made
985
00:58:40,778 --> 00:58:44,346
by putting daisies
together, fake daisies.
986
00:58:44,390 --> 00:58:46,566
And so she had a
similar swimsuit,
987
00:58:46,610 --> 00:58:49,917
not the iconic one, but
made out of flowers.
988
00:58:49,961 --> 00:58:52,398
And when I was 14, she asked me,
989
00:58:52,441 --> 00:58:54,269
"Well, what do you think,
Holly, would happen
990
00:58:54,313 --> 00:58:55,749
if you put this on?"
991
00:58:57,316 --> 00:59:00,232
And I was horrified, I
looked at her and I said,
992
00:59:00,275 --> 00:59:01,842
"I think my mom would kill you,
993
00:59:01,886 --> 00:59:04,062
that's what I think
would happen."
994
00:59:15,247 --> 00:59:17,379
One of the great
things about the passage of time
995
00:59:17,423 --> 00:59:20,818
is that it will take
the veneer of filth
996
00:59:20,861 --> 00:59:23,560
off of nude material
and turn it into art.
997
00:59:39,619 --> 00:59:42,274
There were two main
reasons that we decided
998
00:59:42,317 --> 00:59:46,539
to do Bunny Yeager's first
ever institutional show
999
00:59:46,583 --> 00:59:48,236
at the Andy Warhol Museum.
1000
00:59:49,803 --> 00:59:52,240
Seeing her work and
thinking, of course,
1001
00:59:52,284 --> 00:59:55,113
about Cindy Sherman,
and Yasumasa Morimura,
1002
00:59:55,156 --> 00:59:57,942
and many photographers
who do self-portraiture,
1003
00:59:57,985 --> 01:00:00,422
utilizing disguise
and masquerade.
1004
01:00:00,466 --> 01:00:03,730
I realized that Bunny had
beat them to the punch
1005
01:00:03,774 --> 01:00:05,950
by at least 15 years.
1006
01:00:07,691 --> 01:00:10,650
I wanted to make sure that not
only did I get to know more
1007
01:00:10,694 --> 01:00:13,087
about her work, her motivations,
1008
01:00:13,131 --> 01:00:17,004
but how she should be woven
1009
01:00:17,048 --> 01:00:19,398
into the narrative of art
history, because I realized
1010
01:00:19,441 --> 01:00:22,053
pretty quickly that
she deserved to be.
1011
01:00:24,838 --> 01:00:27,972
Many curators, and those
in the museum profession
1012
01:00:28,015 --> 01:00:31,410
would not have viewed pinup
photography as relevant
1013
01:00:31,453 --> 01:00:35,632
to the lineage of art
history until quite recently.
1014
01:00:37,068 --> 01:00:38,765
Feminism in its first,
second, and third waves
1015
01:00:38,809 --> 01:00:42,377
within the academy
allowed that door
1016
01:00:42,421 --> 01:00:45,076
to open ever so gradually.
1017
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:48,732
But it took until 2010,
when we did that exhibition,
1018
01:00:48,775 --> 01:00:50,734
for it to be fully open.
1019
01:00:52,779 --> 01:00:56,348
I'll never forget that one
of the first conversations
1020
01:00:56,391 --> 01:00:59,351
we had, I told her,
"We're so thrilled
1021
01:00:59,394 --> 01:01:01,658
to be showing your work
at the Warhol Museum."
1022
01:01:01,701 --> 01:01:03,181
And she immediately said,
1023
01:01:03,224 --> 01:01:05,139
"How much are you going
to sell them for?"
1024
01:01:06,837 --> 01:01:09,100
And I said, "Well, Bunny, we're
actually not selling them."
1025
01:01:09,143 --> 01:01:11,624
And she said, "Well then
why are we doing this?"
1026
01:01:13,234 --> 01:01:16,455
Well, I often tell the
story about Diane Arbus.
1027
01:01:16,498 --> 01:01:20,589
She called Bunny the world's
greatest pinup photographer.
1028
01:01:20,633 --> 01:01:24,419
She came to Miami intent on
meeting Bunny and called her,
1029
01:01:24,463 --> 01:01:26,987
and Bunny said, "I've
never heard of you,"
1030
01:01:27,031 --> 01:01:29,163
and Bunny refused to meet her.
1031
01:01:29,207 --> 01:01:32,123
And this was the leading
female photographer
1032
01:01:32,166 --> 01:01:33,907
on the New York
scene at the time.
1033
01:01:35,779 --> 01:01:38,999
She didn't even
really understand the
significance of that.
1034
01:01:39,043 --> 01:01:41,393
I don't think she really
thought so much about
1035
01:01:41,436 --> 01:01:43,612
whether she was
making art or not.
1036
01:01:43,656 --> 01:01:48,139
Bunny really did
self-portraits all the time.
1037
01:01:48,182 --> 01:01:51,708
She was fearless like that,
it showed her courage.
1038
01:01:53,100 --> 01:01:55,102
And it's what first got
me interested, I said,
1039
01:01:55,146 --> 01:01:58,018
"Oh, I wanna meet this
lady who's taking pictures
1040
01:01:58,062 --> 01:02:00,020
that looks like this."
1041
01:02:00,064 --> 01:02:02,893
She gets a museum exhibition,
1042
01:02:02,936 --> 01:02:06,679
she gets picked up
by an art gallery.
1043
01:02:07,985 --> 01:02:10,378
People start to look
at her photographs
1044
01:02:10,422 --> 01:02:15,035
as part of the story of
photographic history.
1045
01:02:15,079 --> 01:02:16,645
I
found out that a gallery
1046
01:02:16,689 --> 01:02:20,084
was trying to get her to
show some of her work,
1047
01:02:20,127 --> 01:02:22,782
and we were just
completely shocked by it.
1048
01:02:22,826 --> 01:02:24,915
I mean, not because we
didn't think she deserved it,
1049
01:02:24,958 --> 01:02:27,439
she did, she was
an amazing artist.
1050
01:02:27,482 --> 01:02:30,747
But they started to show
an extreme interest in her.
1051
01:02:30,790 --> 01:02:32,313
And from there, it only spread.
1052
01:02:32,357 --> 01:02:34,707
The calls didn't stop
coming from galleries.
1053
01:02:42,846 --> 01:02:44,499
And I
remember going out one day
1054
01:02:44,543 --> 01:02:47,067
and there was just, the
place was full of cars
1055
01:02:47,111 --> 01:02:49,678
Everybody was outside
drinking and smoking,
1056
01:02:49,722 --> 01:02:51,593
it was like a party again.
1057
01:03:04,302 --> 01:03:05,825
Paz De La Huerta
1058
01:03:05,869 --> 01:03:07,305
always wanted to be
photographed by Bunny.
1059
01:03:09,307 --> 01:03:12,876
Bunny photographed in
our house, in El Portal,
1060
01:03:12,919 --> 01:03:15,835
literally blocks
away from her house.
1061
01:03:20,057 --> 01:03:22,102
She was an accomplished
photographer,
1062
01:03:22,146 --> 01:03:25,540
she was a successful
photographer, but
she was also a model.
1063
01:03:27,064 --> 01:03:28,848
When I photographed
her in our studio,
1064
01:03:28,892 --> 01:03:31,372
Bunny went back to
her modeling years.
1065
01:03:32,939 --> 01:03:35,333
There she was, having another
chance at all the things
1066
01:03:35,376 --> 01:03:39,032
that she loved, it was like
everything aligned for her.
1067
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,880
She still used a film
camera till the day she died.
1068
01:04:10,672 --> 01:04:13,850
She told me that Hugh
Hefner, he's such a gentleman.
1069
01:04:13,893 --> 01:04:17,027
And sure enough, when she
passed away, he was a gentleman,
1070
01:04:17,070 --> 01:04:20,421
and he sent 1,000 red
roses to her funeral.
1071
01:04:25,339 --> 01:04:26,863
My mother passed away,
1072
01:04:26,906 --> 01:04:29,300
and you can't imagine
the amount of work
1073
01:04:29,343 --> 01:04:31,519
that she left behind.
1074
01:04:31,563 --> 01:04:36,307
I was Bunny's manager
and agent for four years,
1075
01:04:37,525 --> 01:04:39,005
and she was one of
my best friends.
1076
01:04:40,398 --> 01:04:42,966
Lisa would say I was
probably the worst thing
1077
01:04:43,009 --> 01:04:44,881
that ever happened to her.
1078
01:04:44,924 --> 01:04:48,928
From the day I walked in this
office, she did not like me,
1079
01:04:48,972 --> 01:04:52,976
and that never changed,
she was totally consistent.
1080
01:04:53,019 --> 01:04:54,194
I felt like Ed
1081
01:04:54,238 --> 01:04:56,544
was taking anything he wanted.
1082
01:04:56,588 --> 01:04:59,547
He reorganized things in a
way that made no sense to me.
1083
01:04:59,591 --> 01:05:02,333
It was all this work me
and my mother had done
1084
01:05:02,376 --> 01:05:04,422
organizing these archives.
1085
01:05:04,465 --> 01:05:08,208
Five years worth of
work was just destroyed.
1086
01:05:09,818 --> 01:05:11,429
The work was being duplicated,
and just put out there
1087
01:05:11,472 --> 01:05:13,822
in ways that we had
no control over.
1088
01:05:15,955 --> 01:05:17,304
My impression is that Ed
1089
01:05:17,348 --> 01:05:19,263
was a very good
salesperson for mom.
1090
01:05:19,306 --> 01:05:22,483
I think he was one of the
people that was encouraging her
1091
01:05:22,527 --> 01:05:25,182
to get her photos
into the art galleries
1092
01:05:25,225 --> 01:05:27,445
and to do art shows.
1093
01:05:27,488 --> 01:05:31,275
Lisa was very, very
protective of her mom,
1094
01:05:31,318 --> 01:05:35,061
not only as a daughter,
but business wise.
1095
01:05:35,105 --> 01:05:37,150
I
was so done with him,
1096
01:05:37,194 --> 01:05:40,153
and I decided to hire an
attorney to get rid of him.
1097
01:05:41,894 --> 01:05:45,245
It was personally devastating
for me, but I bounced back,
1098
01:05:45,289 --> 01:05:48,466
and at the end of the day, I
think it was all for the best.
1099
01:05:51,121 --> 01:05:54,037
It was extremely overwhelming
to be the only person
1100
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,778
responsible for the archives
of my mother's work.
1101
01:05:58,302 --> 01:06:00,043
My sister just didn't
care about it like I did.
1102
01:06:00,086 --> 01:06:01,609
She was always on the phone,
1103
01:06:01,653 --> 01:06:03,133
trying to find someone
to get rid of it.
1104
01:06:03,176 --> 01:06:04,699
And I was on the phone,
1105
01:06:04,743 --> 01:06:06,266
trying to find someone
to partner with me.
1106
01:06:06,310 --> 01:06:08,703
When I was in college,
I saw "The Godfather,"
1107
01:06:10,227 --> 01:06:13,578
and I thought about
Michael Corleone, you know?
1108
01:06:13,621 --> 01:06:16,929
How he did not want to be
part of the family business.
1109
01:06:16,973 --> 01:06:21,499
He so did not wanna be part
of it, and it drew him in.
1110
01:06:21,542 --> 01:06:23,805
I have kind of felt like that.
1111
01:06:23,849 --> 01:06:27,026
I wish I could have embraced
what my family was doing,
1112
01:06:27,070 --> 01:06:29,507
but I couldn't,
and I still can't.
1113
01:06:31,074 --> 01:06:34,207
I don't think that the photos
are respectful to women.
1114
01:06:35,948 --> 01:06:39,212
I understand completely what
my mom's feelings are on this,
1115
01:06:39,256 --> 01:06:41,345
but I disagree with my mom.
1116
01:06:43,086 --> 01:06:46,176
My grandma is someone that I
absolutely adored growing up,
1117
01:06:46,219 --> 01:06:49,048
someone who was good to me,
someone who always made sure
1118
01:06:49,092 --> 01:06:50,571
that I was taken care of.
1119
01:06:54,532 --> 01:06:56,012
My
sister and I decided
1120
01:06:56,055 --> 01:06:58,144
it was time for us
to sell everything.
1121
01:06:58,188 --> 01:07:00,581
It's hard
to say how I feel about it.
1122
01:07:00,625 --> 01:07:02,453
My sister was the one
that really pushed me,
1123
01:07:02,496 --> 01:07:05,717
she didn't care about my
mother's work the way that I do.
1124
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,067
It was just too
painful to go on.
1125
01:07:10,330 --> 01:07:14,204
Everything was sold to
Daniel and Sarahjane Blum,
1126
01:07:15,770 --> 01:07:19,513
and I think that they're
continuing to sell the work.
1127
01:07:29,871 --> 01:07:34,920
Bunny worked so much that
there is enough material here
1128
01:07:36,574 --> 01:07:39,533
that I could try and sell it
myself for three lifetimes,
1129
01:07:39,577 --> 01:07:41,318
and still not get anywhere.
1130
01:07:44,103 --> 01:07:48,760
More than anything, I'm really
still trying to figure out
1131
01:07:48,803 --> 01:07:51,980
the best way to talk about her
and the best way to see her.
1132
01:07:54,940 --> 01:07:56,942
What do you
think your mother's legacy is?
1133
01:08:07,387 --> 01:08:09,781
You know, I wish her
legacy was different.
1134
01:08:09,824 --> 01:08:12,000
She changed how
photos were shot.
1135
01:08:12,044 --> 01:08:14,829
She taught people how to
take the first selfies.
1136
01:08:14,873 --> 01:08:16,266
I mean, this is
the 21st century,
1137
01:08:16,309 --> 01:08:18,224
she was so far
ahead of her time.
1138
01:08:18,268 --> 01:08:21,401
Bunny was really
expert in creating mood
1139
01:08:21,445 --> 01:08:26,102
through the use of costume,
wig, makeup to create ambiance.
1140
01:08:26,145 --> 01:08:28,843
That is the
Instagram aesthetic.
1141
01:08:33,021 --> 01:08:36,721
Bunny promoted the
idea that it's okay
1142
01:08:36,764 --> 01:08:39,811
for all of us to
see and be seen.
1143
01:08:39,854 --> 01:08:42,857
That it is not just
for the famous people
1144
01:08:42,901 --> 01:08:46,861
to be photographed as
glamorous or beautiful or sexy.
1145
01:08:46,905 --> 01:08:50,691
She wasn't about
the performative
sexuality of a body,
1146
01:08:50,735 --> 01:08:52,824
she was about the
sexiness of a body.
1147
01:08:52,867 --> 01:08:56,654
What you see today is as women
1148
01:08:56,697 --> 01:08:59,483
try to put themselves
forward as sexual beings,
1149
01:08:59,526 --> 01:09:02,225
try to share that
with the world,
1150
01:09:02,268 --> 01:09:05,315
they need to be their
own Bunny Yeager.
1151
01:09:10,276 --> 01:09:12,409
I love this term,
reluctant feminist,
1152
01:09:12,452 --> 01:09:14,976
because I kind of felt a little
bit like, who are you to say
1153
01:09:15,020 --> 01:09:17,588
what's supposed to make
someone feel powerful,
1154
01:09:17,631 --> 01:09:20,417
and what's supposed to
make someone feel degraded?
1155
01:09:20,460 --> 01:09:23,811
'Cause it's like, you can
never really agree on that.
1156
01:09:23,855 --> 01:09:26,510
One of the things that
I think is even more taboo
1157
01:09:26,553 --> 01:09:29,339
than women's sexualities
and women's bodies,
1158
01:09:29,382 --> 01:09:30,949
it's women's ambition.
1159
01:09:33,908 --> 01:09:37,085
She managed to take some of
the most iconic photographs
1160
01:09:37,129 --> 01:09:40,959
of the time and frustratingly,
1161
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:43,440
most people don't know her name.
1162
01:09:46,138 --> 01:09:49,010
She didn't really get
the credit she deserved.
1163
01:09:51,839 --> 01:09:53,276
I believe
what my mother was doing
1164
01:09:53,319 --> 01:09:55,887
was purely a beautiful art form.
1165
01:09:55,930 --> 01:09:58,542
It was always a form
of art and beauty.
1166
01:10:02,285 --> 01:10:07,115
Bunny was
unapologetically herself.
1167
01:10:07,159 --> 01:10:12,208
She didn't conform
to any cultural ideas
1168
01:10:13,948 --> 01:10:17,300
of what a woman, a mother, a
wife, should be at that time.
1169
01:10:21,391 --> 01:10:24,437
I want people to know
that it is possible
1170
01:10:24,481 --> 01:10:27,484
to be revolutionary
without realizing it.
1171
01:11:19,666 --> 01:11:22,060
When you
look back on these pictures,
1172
01:11:22,103 --> 01:11:23,017
how do you feel about it?
1173
01:11:23,061 --> 01:11:24,845
Do you feel proud?
1174
01:11:24,889 --> 01:11:26,369
Yes, my grandchildren, I
want them to see and say...
1175
01:11:26,412 --> 01:11:28,632
'Cause, I mean, they look at me,
1176
01:11:28,675 --> 01:11:30,590
and one looked at my
hands one time and said,
1177
01:11:30,634 --> 01:11:32,853
"Oh gran, I don't
wanna get old."
1178
01:11:32,897 --> 01:11:34,420
But I wanna show them
pictures and say,
1179
01:11:34,464 --> 01:11:37,423
"Hey, gran was hot and
she had a good time."
1180
01:12:13,459 --> 01:12:16,288
What were
the Miami girls like?
1181
01:12:16,332 --> 01:12:19,465
They weren't bad,
they weren't bad.
89890
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