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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,450 --> 00:00:05,450 Start the clock. 2 00:00:37,450 --> 00:00:38,450 Thank you. How are you doing? 3 00:00:40,090 --> 00:00:41,090 Thank you, everybody. 4 00:00:43,490 --> 00:00:45,570 I appreciate it. How are you doing? 5 00:00:47,590 --> 00:00:48,590 All right. 6 00:00:50,710 --> 00:00:51,710 Thank you, people. 7 00:00:53,530 --> 00:00:54,850 I appreciate it. 8 00:00:55,590 --> 00:00:56,970 Thank you for coming out. 9 00:00:57,370 --> 00:00:58,970 Oh, you're going to laugh tonight. 10 00:00:59,910 --> 00:01:04,470 First of all, we're going to get to all the hard news. 11 00:01:05,950 --> 00:01:07,790 Talking about what we're really thinking about. 12 00:01:08,330 --> 00:01:13,170 Tomorrow's Valentine's Day. I said that for all the men watching who just went, 13 00:01:13,290 --> 00:01:14,290 oh, shit. 14 00:01:15,370 --> 00:01:16,370 It is. 15 00:01:17,110 --> 00:01:19,810 So, you excited about that, Valentine? Okay. 16 00:01:24,730 --> 00:01:26,450 It's a stupid holiday, but you know what? 17 00:01:27,350 --> 00:01:29,350 People get into it. You know, St. 18 00:01:29,550 --> 00:01:33,610 Valentine was a Catholic priest. That's why to this day we exchange candy for 19 00:01:33,610 --> 00:01:34,730 sex. That's why. 20 00:01:42,570 --> 00:01:45,590 And, you know, there's always that Valentine's Day movie they put out. You 21 00:01:45,590 --> 00:01:46,630 what the one this year is? 22 00:01:46,950 --> 00:01:49,810 Wuthering Heights. Are you into it? I'm so into it. 23 00:01:51,610 --> 00:01:55,090 It's all about the forbidden love of Catherine and Heathcliff. 24 00:01:56,450 --> 00:02:02,190 Of course, it's very modernized. Now, when their forbidden love gets busted, 25 00:02:02,270 --> 00:02:04,730 it's because they see them on the Jumbotron. 26 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:11,440 Oh, it's so romantic. 27 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:16,240 You've got to feel the romance in the air. I mean, I know a guy who said his 28 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,700 girlfriend wanted to be swept off her feet and carried off to the tropics. So 29 00:02:20,700 --> 00:02:21,720 reported her to ICE. 30 00:02:23,940 --> 00:02:24,380 Good 31 00:02:24,380 --> 00:02:31,180 news 32 00:02:31,180 --> 00:02:35,880 out of Minnesota, people. We've done it. We've liberated St. Paul from Somalia. 33 00:02:36,060 --> 00:02:37,060 All right. 34 00:02:39,470 --> 00:02:44,230 ICE is leaving town, so that's why you're feeling extra patriotic. Of 35 00:02:44,230 --> 00:02:47,490 could also be because Monday is President's Day. Uh, 36 00:02:48,770 --> 00:02:49,770 yep. 37 00:02:53,250 --> 00:02:58,730 No, no. This is the day we pay tribute to all the past presidents, even those 38 00:02:58,730 --> 00:02:59,730 the Epstein file. 39 00:03:00,450 --> 00:03:01,730 All the presidents. 40 00:03:02,610 --> 00:03:04,450 And, uh, oh, no, no. 41 00:03:06,730 --> 00:03:11,130 Our president now, Donald Trump, he takes very seriously his place in the 42 00:03:11,130 --> 00:03:11,909 of presidents. 43 00:03:11,910 --> 00:03:16,510 He's going to honor it, Munda, by posting pictures of all the presidents, 44 00:03:16,510 --> 00:03:17,790 of them not as apes. 45 00:03:19,850 --> 00:03:26,810 But I tell you, this Epstein story, 46 00:03:26,970 --> 00:03:28,190 that is not going away. 47 00:03:28,610 --> 00:03:33,290 The Attorney General, Pam Bondi, she was before the House Judiciary Committee. 48 00:03:33,950 --> 00:03:37,130 This week, they were talking to her about how she mishandled this, and she 49 00:03:37,130 --> 00:03:44,070 calmly answered all their questions. I'm kidding, of course. She broke out Jeff 50 00:03:44,070 --> 00:03:46,450 Ross's big book of insults for roasters. 51 00:03:50,010 --> 00:03:53,990 At one point, she said to a congressman, you're a washed -up loser lawyer. 52 00:03:56,690 --> 00:03:59,650 Begs the question, what is the opposite of legally blonde? 53 00:04:03,530 --> 00:04:04,530 Oh, I kid, Pam. 54 00:04:06,430 --> 00:04:11,370 I kid, Pam. By the way, she's got a great Valentine's Day card for her 55 00:04:11,370 --> 00:04:13,170 says, kiss me, you fucking asshole. 56 00:04:17,110 --> 00:04:24,110 Now, this is all fun, but we have to get to the story that 57 00:04:24,110 --> 00:04:25,650 really matters, which is the EPA. 58 00:04:26,050 --> 00:04:28,750 Little history lesson, Richard Nixon, a Republican. 59 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:34,440 Okay, he started the EPA, the Environmental Protection Agency, in 60 00:04:34,940 --> 00:04:39,180 Trump has always said it's a hoax, the whole thing, but climate change, he 61 00:04:39,260 --> 00:04:42,900 scientists, climate scientists, he says, are stupid people. 62 00:04:43,140 --> 00:04:47,940 He says the idea that greenhouse gases cause climate change, there's no basis 63 00:04:47,940 --> 00:04:52,020 fact. He thinks it's just some bullshit that people made up out of nothing to 64 00:04:52,020 --> 00:04:53,840 get rich. You know, like crypto. 65 00:04:59,849 --> 00:05:00,849 And, yes, 66 00:05:01,610 --> 00:05:06,250 his EPA director, Lee Seldon, said this is the single, this is a quote, single 67 00:05:06,250 --> 00:05:09,610 largest deregulatory action in American history. 68 00:05:09,970 --> 00:05:13,570 Probably true. Also the biggest dick move in American history. 69 00:05:15,770 --> 00:05:22,390 Guys, this is not made up. You know, this is science. Doug Burnham, he's the 70 00:05:22,390 --> 00:05:23,390 interior secretary. 71 00:05:23,650 --> 00:05:27,730 Listen to this, the way they all line up behind this nonsense. He said, CO2. 72 00:05:30,030 --> 00:05:33,630 Carbon was never a pollutant. He said, when we breathe, we emit CO2. 73 00:05:34,790 --> 00:05:37,010 Okay, Doug, you know what? Let's try this little experiment. 74 00:05:38,790 --> 00:05:42,570 Tonight, when you get home, go in the garage, close the door, turn the car on, 75 00:05:42,730 --> 00:05:46,970 and let's see if carbon is a pollutant. Okay. 76 00:05:48,950 --> 00:05:51,350 But... But... 77 00:05:54,230 --> 00:05:56,550 You have to be a little sympathetic. 78 00:05:56,810 --> 00:06:00,570 A lot of the conservative America is very butthurt these days. They're still 79 00:06:00,570 --> 00:06:07,570 recovering from the halftime show that Big Bunny 80 00:06:07,570 --> 00:06:10,950 did. They hated it because it was in Spanish, but now they're pretending they 81 00:06:10,950 --> 00:06:16,450 hated it because it was smutty and it was sexual, very overtly sexual with 82 00:06:16,450 --> 00:06:18,930 lyrics. Well, what do you expect? He's not called Good Bunny. 83 00:06:26,050 --> 00:06:29,070 Trump said, nobody could understand a word the guy said. 84 00:06:30,630 --> 00:06:34,550 I never understood a word Mick Jagger said either. I still enjoy the show. 85 00:06:40,030 --> 00:06:44,570 No, I looked at you like Olympic curling. I had no idea what the fuck was 86 00:06:44,570 --> 00:06:47,830 happening, but I was like, everyone looks like they're having fun. Fuck it, 87 00:06:47,830 --> 00:06:48,830 in. 88 00:06:55,370 --> 00:07:00,190 But first up, he is a professor and social psychologist who wrote the best 89 00:07:00,190 --> 00:07:01,730 -selling book, The Anxious Generation. 90 00:07:02,110 --> 00:07:05,630 He recently co -authored another one on the subject, The Amazing Generation, 91 00:07:05,990 --> 00:07:10,610 Your Guide to Fun and Freedom in a Screen -Filled World. Jonathan Haidt. 92 00:07:10,610 --> 00:07:11,610 over here. 93 00:07:12,450 --> 00:07:13,450 John? 94 00:07:13,970 --> 00:07:15,110 How are you doing? 95 00:07:15,350 --> 00:07:16,350 How are you doing? 96 00:07:16,470 --> 00:07:17,870 I wanted to see you back here. 97 00:07:19,930 --> 00:07:21,030 Okay, well... 98 00:07:24,460 --> 00:07:27,780 Look, I'm not going to lie to you. They stand for pretty much anybody who walks 99 00:07:27,780 --> 00:07:28,780 out here. 100 00:07:29,540 --> 00:07:33,380 But I'm going to say to you, you really deserve it. I mean, this book that you 101 00:07:33,380 --> 00:07:40,080 wrote, you started with a thesis that the phone, the smartphone, and all 102 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:45,000 contained in it, and the social media, not benign, and adults need to do 103 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,320 something about it. 104 00:07:46,910 --> 00:07:50,210 And you weren't the only one. We've got Tristan Harris on this show and other 105 00:07:50,210 --> 00:07:53,310 people. But you were the main one out there. And this book did a lot of the 106 00:07:53,310 --> 00:07:58,310 heavy lifting. And now this is actually happening. So a grateful nation says 107 00:07:58,310 --> 00:07:59,310 thank you to you. 108 00:08:02,570 --> 00:08:07,730 And when I say it's actually happening, Australia, right? Am I right? The first 109 00:08:07,730 --> 00:08:10,190 country now to ban phones for kids. 110 00:08:10,470 --> 00:08:11,830 Social media accounts. 111 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,900 We just got through the world tour pretty much. Where is this happening and 112 00:08:20,900 --> 00:08:25,160 are they doing? So it's now happening. It's going to happen everywhere this 113 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,500 year. Everywhere? 114 00:08:27,140 --> 00:08:28,140 That's my prediction. 115 00:08:28,260 --> 00:08:29,540 So here's what happened. 116 00:08:30,620 --> 00:08:33,820 Australia, their law went into effect on December 10th. 117 00:08:34,039 --> 00:08:38,299 And there was news coverage all over the world. And a lot of the news coverage 118 00:08:38,299 --> 00:08:42,179 was people saying or journalists saying, hey, why can't we do that here? 119 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,040 And once everybody saw that. 120 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,620 then everything changed in a really interesting way. I was just in Europe, 121 00:08:48,620 --> 00:08:51,980 wherever I would go, I was knocking on open doors. People wanted to do this. 122 00:08:52,100 --> 00:08:56,380 What I think happened is you had Steve Pinker on here last year, and he has a 123 00:08:56,380 --> 00:08:59,840 book out called When Everyone Knows That Everyone Knows. It's about the 124 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,720 emperor's new clothes moment, when suddenly the kid calls out the emperor 125 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:08,080 clothes, and private knowledge, because everyone already knew that, but private 126 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,340 knowledge becomes public knowledge. 127 00:09:09,580 --> 00:09:11,760 And so what I think happened was... 128 00:09:12,060 --> 00:09:16,380 Once everybody saw that everybody was praising Australia, then everybody knew 129 00:09:16,380 --> 00:09:17,800 that everybody wanted to do this. 130 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,340 And suddenly, all the politicians realized, wait, the people are way out 131 00:09:22,340 --> 00:09:22,959 of me. 132 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,760 I want to get back out ahead. 133 00:09:25,140 --> 00:09:31,120 And so I met with President Macron in Davos. I met with leaders of labor and 134 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,260 conservative in the UK. I met with people in the EU. Wherever I went, there 135 00:09:35,260 --> 00:09:39,180 parents. And parents everywhere have seen this. And parents who are 136 00:09:39,180 --> 00:09:41,200 are very aware of public... 137 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:46,440 sentiment. So this past month has been an extraordinary period of global 138 00:09:46,580 --> 00:09:50,840 This is the tipping point, like this month, especially given what's going on 139 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,700 LA with the trials. So it's a different world now than it was two months ago. 140 00:09:57,580 --> 00:10:00,180 And that's all true. 141 00:10:00,660 --> 00:10:05,540 But your book, The Anxious Generation, I mean, look, I had a book that hit 142 00:10:05,540 --> 00:10:06,900 number one for one week. 143 00:10:08,620 --> 00:10:13,120 Last year. Yours is on the charts for how long has this been? 95 weeks. 95 144 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:19,960 weeks. I just wanted to say, it's a victory for 145 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,640 the issue itself about social media. It's also a victory for books. 146 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:30,180 That a public intellectual, that term is sort of out of vogue, but you are one. 147 00:10:30,680 --> 00:10:31,880 There are not many left. 148 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,680 And the idea of a book changing people's minds. 149 00:10:36,410 --> 00:10:39,590 still can happen. I just want to take that victory for a second. 150 00:10:40,130 --> 00:10:43,750 Because it was very influential. This book caught people's attention. 151 00:10:44,630 --> 00:10:48,890 You just mentioned the trials. What are you talking about? Tell us what you... I 152 00:10:48,890 --> 00:10:51,270 know what you mean, the one that's in LA that's starting. Sure, sure. 153 00:10:51,530 --> 00:10:57,330 So imagine that there was a consumer product that had killed hundreds of kids 154 00:10:57,330 --> 00:11:00,810 and that had harmed or damaged literally millions of kids. 155 00:11:01,030 --> 00:11:02,650 But this consumer product... 156 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,140 had what seemed to be special protection where nobody could sue them. 157 00:11:06,700 --> 00:11:10,040 That would be a really bad situation, and that's where we've been with social 158 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,320 media. Hundreds of kids are dead, and a lot of those parents came to L .A. today 159 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,900 because for the first time in history, the companies are being held 160 00:11:19,100 --> 00:11:23,140 or at least they're going to face a jury for what they did to the kids. 161 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:26,840 Right. 162 00:11:28,910 --> 00:11:33,490 And what is the young woman who is bringing this case? What is she 163 00:11:33,590 --> 00:11:39,030 She's claiming that she was on, I mean, the people being sued. First of all, two 164 00:11:39,030 --> 00:11:41,850 of them already settled, right? Snapchat and TikTok. 165 00:11:42,330 --> 00:11:43,330 Two out of the thousands already settled. 166 00:11:43,550 --> 00:11:45,810 But Snapchat and TikTok are already out. 167 00:11:46,190 --> 00:11:49,570 That's right, on this one case, the first bellwether case. Right, but this 168 00:11:49,570 --> 00:11:54,130 Meta. These are the people who bring you Instagram, and this is Google, the 169 00:11:54,130 --> 00:11:55,530 people who bring you YouTube. 170 00:11:55,790 --> 00:11:57,590 That's right. Okay, so they're on trial. 171 00:11:57,810 --> 00:11:58,810 That's right. 172 00:11:58,970 --> 00:12:03,070 What is she saying happened, that she was hooked? They purposely hooked her, 173 00:12:03,110 --> 00:12:06,290 because it does remind me a lot of the tobacco trials of the 90s. Exactly, 174 00:12:06,290 --> 00:12:11,730 that's right. Because it's the same dynamic where the tobacco companies were 175 00:12:11,730 --> 00:12:13,750 there saying, well, first of all... 176 00:12:14,670 --> 00:12:18,970 We didn't know it was addictive. They did know it was addictive, and they just 177 00:12:18,970 --> 00:12:23,610 didn't care. They were giving you this delivery system. So it's sort of the 178 00:12:23,610 --> 00:12:26,430 kind of thing. You have to be responsible for something that's 179 00:12:27,110 --> 00:12:31,630 What is he saying? He's saying that she got hooked on these things and it made 180 00:12:31,630 --> 00:12:32,469 her depressed? 181 00:12:32,470 --> 00:12:39,250 Yeah. When you start spending 8, 10, 15 hours a day just on social media, You 182 00:12:39,250 --> 00:12:43,770 know, the average American teen spends five hours a day on social media, about 183 00:12:43,770 --> 00:12:47,350 quarter spending seven hours just on social media, the ad and all the other 184 00:12:47,350 --> 00:12:50,570 stuff. You're going to be losing out on sleep. You're going to be losing out on 185 00:12:50,570 --> 00:12:53,470 social relationships. You're going to be losing out on all the things that kids 186 00:12:53,470 --> 00:12:57,530 need. And I don't know the details of that case, what exactly she's alleging 187 00:12:57,530 --> 00:12:58,550 about the chain of damage. 188 00:12:59,660 --> 00:13:04,100 Almost all these, so many of these kids, the case is that they became addicted 189 00:13:04,100 --> 00:13:07,880 and then that affects their mental health. That pulls them into dark 190 00:13:07,980 --> 00:13:09,860 That puts them in touch with sexual predators. 191 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,320 And what a lot of these initial trials are going to hinge on, and we saw Adam 192 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,100 Mosseri testify yesterday, the head of Instagram. 193 00:13:16,380 --> 00:13:18,860 He said, oh no, there's no evidence that it's addictive. 194 00:13:19,220 --> 00:13:23,320 He said, heavy users, they have problematic use. 16 hours a day she was 195 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,280 sometimes. That's just, that's problematic. That's not addiction. 196 00:13:26,700 --> 00:13:28,320 But these things were designed. 197 00:13:29,100 --> 00:13:30,780 by people who studied slot machines. 198 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:32,680 Slot machines are addictive. 199 00:13:33,020 --> 00:13:36,060 These people, a lot of them took a course at Stanford on persuasive design. 200 00:13:36,060 --> 00:13:40,120 learned how to use intermittent rewards, variable ratio reward schedules, to 201 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:40,919 hook people. 202 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,360 And they did it. They talked about it. We have transcripts. We have internal 203 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,480 reports. They did 31 studies, my team has found. If you go to 204 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,800 medisinternalresearch .org, we've categorized their own studies. 205 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,040 showing that this is addictive. 206 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,260 They talk about it. They use the word addiction. 207 00:13:57,580 --> 00:14:02,680 And so now for these guys to say, oh, it's not addictive, just like the 208 00:14:02,680 --> 00:14:06,280 industry. And would they let their kids? I don't think the tobacco industry, I 209 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,160 don't think the tobacco guys let their kids smoke. A lot of these guys don't 210 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,120 their kids use their products. But there's a big difference, I think. 211 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,440 And I think comparing it to the tobacco industry is actually unfair to the 212 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,680 tobacco industry because the tobacco executives never saw children suffer. 213 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,600 They knew that they were going to give them cancer eventually, but they didn't 214 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,500 have to look at children suffering and dying. 215 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:31,000 And these guys have to face the reality of these parents coming to them with the 216 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,000 photos. It was so moving this morning. 217 00:14:33,220 --> 00:14:39,940 About 40 parents came to L .A. There was a memorial showing tombstones that are 218 00:14:39,940 --> 00:14:43,060 like cell phones showing the block screens with these beautiful kids on 219 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,120 From suicide. 220 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:49,360 All sorts of things. So a lot of them are fentanyl deaths because... 221 00:14:49,630 --> 00:14:52,990 As one young woman said to me, everybody buys drugs on Snapchat. 222 00:14:53,310 --> 00:14:57,690 And you had a piece on gambling a week or two ago. When you make it 223 00:14:57,690 --> 00:15:01,630 and free, anyone can get any drug this afternoon. 224 00:15:02,230 --> 00:15:03,230 Really? 225 00:15:04,690 --> 00:15:06,590 No, I mean, that's terrible. 226 00:15:09,030 --> 00:15:10,290 I didn't know that. 227 00:15:10,590 --> 00:15:15,670 So a lot of the deaths are fentanyl. I mean, a kid buys Percocet or Xanax, but 228 00:15:15,670 --> 00:15:16,790 it has fentanyl, and they're dead. 229 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,160 And that's what a lot of them are. And the others are suicide after 230 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:21,720 cyberbullying or sextortion. 231 00:15:21,980 --> 00:15:26,620 In one case, one mother I was talking to, her daughter was cyberbullied into 232 00:15:26,620 --> 00:15:28,420 suicide. And this was during COVID. 233 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:33,900 And the kids broke into the funeral to continue the bullying after the grave. 234 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,860 And what I take from this as a social psychologist isn't, oh, those bastards, 235 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:39,960 oh, those cruel kids. 236 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,860 What kind of sick environment are we raising our kids in that this sort of 237 00:15:44,860 --> 00:15:46,920 is now normal? Kids were always bastards, John. 238 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:48,720 They were. 239 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,900 They were sitting when I was a kid. You have to teach your kid to be decent. 240 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,320 You never read Lord of the Flies when you were a kid? 241 00:15:56,900 --> 00:16:00,540 Kids are shit. They are. They're little Nazis. They have to be taught to be 242 00:16:00,540 --> 00:16:01,540 civilized. 243 00:16:02,060 --> 00:16:03,180 But I take your point. 244 00:16:05,180 --> 00:16:08,240 An important point you make when you're writing about this lately, I see, is 245 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,700 that there should be no parental exemptions because I think that's what 246 00:16:11,700 --> 00:16:15,580 people want now. They want some exemptions out of this. You say you'd 247 00:16:15,580 --> 00:16:19,960 have no laws than parental exemptions. Yeah. So the key thing, you know, we can 248 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,340 talk about, oh, we need to make this safer. Oh, we need more education. We 249 00:16:23,340 --> 00:16:25,360 talk about all that stuff, but none of that works. 250 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,660 All over the world, parents are fighting. They're having the same fight 251 00:16:28,660 --> 00:16:32,720 their kids. Mom, everyone else has a phone. I'm starting, you know, sixth 252 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:34,460 Everyone else has Instagram. 253 00:16:35,340 --> 00:16:39,060 And so parents are in a trap, kids are in a trap, and we all have to give in 254 00:16:39,060 --> 00:16:42,360 because everyone else gave in. So that's called a collective action trap. 255 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:48,140 And so lots of countries are in Europe and Australia, Indonesia, Malaysia, lots 256 00:16:48,140 --> 00:16:49,820 of countries are going to raise the age to 16. 257 00:16:50,380 --> 00:16:54,720 But in some countries, they're saying, you have to be 16 to open an account. 258 00:16:54,720 --> 00:17:00,500 if your parents give permission, then you can open an account at 13 or 14. 259 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,720 And my attitude is, What the hell? Why bother doing it? That just puts us all 260 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,220 back in the trap. So we need a clean, like a global norm. Like, really, it 261 00:17:08,220 --> 00:17:09,500 should be 18. This is an adult activity. 262 00:17:09,740 --> 00:17:13,300 But I'm saying, let's just, if we all agree to do 16, we can get it. We can 263 00:17:13,300 --> 00:17:17,260 it fast. And that takes the pressure off of the kids to spend their, to give up 264 00:17:17,260 --> 00:17:18,260 their childhood to scrolling. 265 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,640 And now you have a graphic novel that's a book really for the kids themselves to 266 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,060 explain it. Just plug it one more time before you leave. What's the title? 267 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:27,960 It's called The Amazing Generation. 268 00:17:28,380 --> 00:17:31,740 And it's for kids 8 to 13 years old. Right. 269 00:17:31,950 --> 00:17:35,390 And it's got a graphic novel about what happens to kids when they get a phone. 270 00:17:35,470 --> 00:17:38,740 And our goal with my co -author, Catherine Price, we weren't... We're 271 00:17:38,740 --> 00:17:42,220 preach to the kids. We let older kids talk to them. They hear from older kids, 272 00:17:42,300 --> 00:17:46,580 members of Gen Z, who really regret losing their childhood, spending so much 273 00:17:46,580 --> 00:17:50,020 it doing this, rather than, like, talking to their grandfather before he 274 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,160 When you're getting life advice from Gen Z, you know what to talk about. 275 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,460 Thank you, John, for your service to humanity. 276 00:17:57,340 --> 00:17:59,120 Favorite public intellectual. 277 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,900 Jonathan Haidt. Okay, let's meet our panel. 278 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:13,340 Hello. Okay, here's a former national security advisor, host of the Hoover 279 00:18:13,340 --> 00:18:16,860 Institute's podcast, Today's Battlegrounds, an author about war with 280 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,880 former Lieutenant General, H .R. McMaster, General. 281 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,020 Great to have you here. 282 00:18:22,820 --> 00:18:27,020 And there's Stephanie Ruhl. She's host of MS Now's The 11th Hour and co -host 283 00:18:27,020 --> 00:18:30,220 YouTube Lives, It's Happening with Vilshian Ruhl, airing every Wednesday. 284 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:31,380 Stephanie Ruhl. 285 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,080 Last of us. 286 00:18:34,380 --> 00:18:35,380 Okay. 287 00:18:36,300 --> 00:18:40,360 Well. I think I'm going to start tonight by saying elections have consequences 288 00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:44,600 because I want to talk about this EPA thing that's going on. I always thought 289 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,060 when Trump first ran, the most damage he possibly could do would be the 290 00:18:48,060 --> 00:18:50,600 environment because he was always talking about what a hoax. 291 00:18:51,020 --> 00:18:56,380 global warming was. And look, I mean, have sometimes they exaggerated, have 292 00:18:56,380 --> 00:19:00,300 some, I don't think they did themselves any favors sometimes by predicting like, 293 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,480 oh, well, you know, we're going to hit past the tipping point if we don't do 294 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,880 something by 2012. And then we did. And now, but it's still really happening, 295 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,880 guys. It's not a hoax. Okay. 296 00:19:10,860 --> 00:19:15,680 So here's what's going on. We had something called the engagement rule in 297 00:19:15,980 --> 00:19:19,940 This said the feds get to regulate fossil fuels because we believe they are 298 00:19:19,940 --> 00:19:21,100 danger to public health. 299 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,640 Well, what happened this yesterday? 300 00:19:23,860 --> 00:19:28,720 Trump ended government's legal authority to regulate basically what causes 301 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:34,840 pollution. The Environmental Protection Agency cannot now protect it against 302 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:35,840 pollution. 303 00:19:36,830 --> 00:19:39,550 This is like the Navy can't use ships. 304 00:19:40,710 --> 00:19:43,650 But why are you surprised? 305 00:19:45,210 --> 00:19:46,890 I'm not surprised. I'm angry. 306 00:19:47,530 --> 00:19:52,010 A year and a half ago, during the campaign, the president invited a bunch 307 00:19:52,010 --> 00:19:56,410 and gas executives to Mar -a -Lago, and he said to them, if you deliver me a 308 00:19:56,410 --> 00:20:01,230 billion dollars in campaign donations, I will pay you back in spades. And that's 309 00:20:01,230 --> 00:20:04,550 exactly what we're getting here, a huge win for oil, gas, and big coal. 310 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,240 Promises kept, you could say. 311 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,760 Well, you know, Bill and Stephanie, you don't need washed -up generals to talk 312 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:14,120 about climate science. But I'm a believer that global warming is a real 313 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,240 right? Man -made carbon emissions are a problem. 314 00:20:16,460 --> 00:20:19,040 But what we were doing wasn't working anyway, really. 315 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,420 I mean, what we do in the United States actually doesn't matter if China is 316 00:20:23,420 --> 00:20:25,780 building 40 coal -fired power plants a year. 317 00:20:25,980 --> 00:20:30,320 So what I think we should do is come together and work together on a market 318 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,080 solution. that actually worked, just like it happened with the fracking 319 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:38,280 revolution, right? The largest reduction in man -made carbon emissions in 320 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,280 history didn't come from a government regulation. 321 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,480 It came from cheap natural gas displacing coal. 322 00:20:43,820 --> 00:20:49,980 That, I think, plus nuclear fission, that gets us off the path toward global 323 00:20:49,980 --> 00:20:52,800 warming and gets us cheaper energy. 324 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,880 But are we working, do you actually perceive, in the current environment, 325 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,840 working in concert with other countries to do that? 326 00:21:01,290 --> 00:21:03,350 Well, I mean no I think what we can do 327 00:21:04,140 --> 00:21:07,960 But we were working in concert with other countries, supposedly, and it 328 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:13,460 work. So what you need is a market solution that will get adopted in 329 00:21:13,460 --> 00:21:18,580 India, in China, because you're providing energy security for people who 330 00:21:18,580 --> 00:21:19,580 be lifted out of poverty. 331 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,080 China's already moving way ahead of us on this, as well as many other things. 332 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:27,700 But I pulled this card from years ago because I thought you were here. It's 333 00:21:27,700 --> 00:21:31,620 Pentagon. The Pentagon had something called assessment risk that they used to 334 00:21:31,620 --> 00:21:32,720 do. I don't think they do it anymore. 335 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:34,640 I think, from 2014. 336 00:21:35,100 --> 00:21:39,160 You know, I don't think things have changed. The world's only gotten hotter. 337 00:21:39,380 --> 00:21:42,980 They said climate change posed an immediate threat to national security. 338 00:21:43,500 --> 00:21:44,560 This is the Pentagon. 339 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,500 It's your group, okay? 340 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:52,160 Because of things like pandemic disease, global poverty, food shortages, 341 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,780 humanitarian crisis. In other words, methods that are going to be created 342 00:21:55,780 --> 00:22:00,860 because of climate change that the army might have to step in and help. And 343 00:22:00,860 --> 00:22:05,900 today, one of the things Trump did, he directed the Pentagon to buy more 344 00:22:05,900 --> 00:22:07,360 electricity from coal. 345 00:22:08,420 --> 00:22:13,200 I mean, you know what this is? I think this is like every reaction has an 346 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,760 unequal and opposite reaction in the Trump administration. 347 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,580 why the hell is the Pentagon involved in climate change? They should be. They've 348 00:22:19,580 --> 00:22:23,680 got, I think, a more narrow mission to focus on, which is to deter war, defend 349 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:24,679 the nation. 350 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,960 Now what you get, though, to the Pentagon embracing sort of climate 351 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:33,380 catastrophism, which they were doing, I think, in 2014, which, by the way, 352 00:22:33,420 --> 00:22:38,980 there's been a reversal in that appraisal by Stephen Kuhn and others 353 00:22:38,980 --> 00:22:44,560 said, hey, it's not as catastrophic as people had said it was. And so if you 354 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:51,300 spend... 10 % of your GDP, these are economists, to reduce the risk of like a 355 00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:56,420 5 % risk a generation ahead, that doesn't make sense. We need different 356 00:22:56,420 --> 00:23:00,080 solutions. Okay, this sounds brilliant, but I don't think there's a single 357 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,740 person in the administration reading one word of that. We're not even employing 358 00:23:03,740 --> 00:23:08,560 America First policies. This is a continuation of Trump First policies. 359 00:23:08,780 --> 00:23:12,140 And if you don't think there's a big coal donor behind this, then I've got a 360 00:23:12,140 --> 00:23:13,480 bridge to sell in Michigan. 361 00:23:17,940 --> 00:23:18,940 Again, 362 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,260 it's not all happening right now. The worry is that what happens in the 363 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:30,580 I mean, when the planet gets hotter, it does melt the permafrost. When the 364 00:23:30,580 --> 00:23:36,080 permafrost melts, it releases crazy amounts of methane and carbon that were 365 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,940 trapped. That just makes the cycle even worse, because then that makes the 366 00:23:39,940 --> 00:23:44,120 planet hotter, melts more ice, more goes up there. That's the kind of thing we 367 00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:45,120 worry about in the future. 368 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:50,200 Dick Cheney once said about terrorism, if there's even a 1 % chance, we've got 369 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:55,320 to act like it's 100%. Wouldn't this be just as much? I mean, I don't have to 370 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,320 put it all on you. 371 00:23:57,300 --> 00:24:02,870 I would say, I think this is what your show is about, is that, hey, that we can 372 00:24:02,870 --> 00:24:07,070 be rational human beings. Yes, I hope. We can begin with what we can agree on. 373 00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:11,750 So I think what happens is the people who steal all the oxygen from this 374 00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:15,190 are the people, you know, maybe climate catastrophists. 375 00:24:15,450 --> 00:24:18,550 on the one hand, and climate deniers on the other. I think the vast majority of 376 00:24:18,550 --> 00:24:19,550 Americans are somewhere in between. 377 00:24:19,770 --> 00:24:23,430 And we can recognize that what we really do need are these market -based 378 00:24:23,430 --> 00:24:28,530 solutions because, really, it doesn't matter what we do if China, India, 379 00:24:28,770 --> 00:24:34,170 developing economies in Africa, Latin America, don't adopt solutions that 380 00:24:34,170 --> 00:24:39,070 provide energy security but also reduce carbon emissions. I don't think China's 381 00:24:39,070 --> 00:24:40,390 on the page that it's a hoax. 382 00:24:40,940 --> 00:24:45,540 I don't think China's on this page that it's just all made up and we should go 383 00:24:45,540 --> 00:24:50,420 more toward coal. I mean, they may not be there yet, but that is their goal. 384 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,320 I don't think... Well, I mean, they're still building a hell of a lot more coal 385 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,260 -fired plants, you know. And they're doing solar. They're doing kind of all 386 00:24:57,260 --> 00:25:00,840 the above. What they really want is energy security. And if you're worried 387 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,400 the environment, they've destroyed their environment. So a lot of what we've 388 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,740 done is like re -washing ourselves by offshoring stuff to Trump. If the Sierra 389 00:25:08,740 --> 00:25:09,900 Club would consider... 390 00:25:10,620 --> 00:25:15,340 I don't know, a monument to the president, a few trophies with his face 391 00:25:15,340 --> 00:25:15,979 think we're good. 392 00:25:15,980 --> 00:25:16,980 I think we're good. 393 00:25:20,940 --> 00:25:23,700 You're an economist, okay? I am. 394 00:25:23,940 --> 00:25:24,940 All right, okay. 395 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:30,060 So Trump is going to say the cars are going to be $2 ,000 less, and they may 396 00:25:30,899 --> 00:25:35,200 You know, that may be, and that might turn a lot of heads. Sure, if you want 397 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,040 drive in a 1980s gas guzzler while you're smoking cigarettes with the 398 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,260 closed, throwing Burger King out the window. But this is 2026. 399 00:25:42,460 --> 00:25:44,100 I'm just saying what he's going to say. 400 00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:45,300 Don't yell at me. 401 00:25:45,700 --> 00:25:48,140 This is his argument, okay, and it may be true. 402 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,980 Okay, but here's... 403 00:25:51,260 --> 00:25:57,160 The interesting part about this, China, talking about China, the guy from Ford, 404 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,800 the head of Ford, CEO, I think his name is Jim Farley, went over there last 405 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,400 year. He said, It's the most humbling thing I've ever seen. Their quality of 406 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:10,240 their vehicles is far superior to what I see in the West. Their Ford just lost 407 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:16,780 $19 billion on EVs. Trump says that's because they were forcing this on us. 408 00:26:16,780 --> 00:26:19,700 were forcing the EVs. That's why we're doing this. We're changing everything 409 00:26:19,700 --> 00:26:22,420 back to what it used to be and throwing gas guzzlers. 410 00:26:23,290 --> 00:26:29,070 Okay, I think the reason why is because not that we're forcing EVs on people, 411 00:26:29,130 --> 00:26:35,590 because we made shittier EVs than China does. Ford lost $19 billion, and then 412 00:26:35,590 --> 00:26:38,970 this guy goes over there and says, he said, we're in a global competition with 413 00:26:38,970 --> 00:26:43,430 China, and it's not just EVs, and if we lose this, we do not have a future at 414 00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:44,430 Ford. 415 00:26:44,850 --> 00:26:49,150 Well, you know, this is kind of a situation of our own making. With so 416 00:26:49,150 --> 00:26:52,650 industries, and you know this much better than I do, what happened is China 417 00:26:52,650 --> 00:26:56,590 draws you in. They co -opt you with the promise of cheap manufacturing. 418 00:26:56,890 --> 00:26:58,770 So guess where we started to manufacture batteries? 419 00:26:59,230 --> 00:27:04,010 In China. The highest -end batteries in China. We're manufacturing a lot of our 420 00:27:04,010 --> 00:27:08,090 EVs, Tesla and other companies, manufacturing in China. They promise you 421 00:27:08,090 --> 00:27:12,710 to their market, cheap manufacturing, and then once they steal your IP, they 422 00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:16,370 steal your technology, they pick a Chinese winner, subsidize the hell out 423 00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:21,110 shut you out of their market, manufacture at artificially low prices, 424 00:27:21,110 --> 00:27:25,830 losses on that hardware or an EV, and then dump it on the international market 425 00:27:25,830 --> 00:27:26,830 and drive you out of business. 426 00:27:26,890 --> 00:27:29,950 How many times do we have to go? through that cycle. Okay, you know what would 427 00:27:29,950 --> 00:27:30,709 be brilliant? 428 00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:35,510 If the United States got together with a bunch of our allies and created 429 00:27:35,510 --> 00:27:39,350 something like, I don't know, the Trans -Pacific Partnership, and these 430 00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:45,090 countries work together to battle China, who employs unfair trade practices. We 431 00:27:45,090 --> 00:27:46,950 did put together the Trans -Pacific Partnership. 432 00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:51,410 It was President Obama, and the first thing Donald Trump did was tear it up. 433 00:27:51,790 --> 00:27:55,830 And now here we are, he's launching a trade war that is not bringing an ounce 434 00:27:55,830 --> 00:27:59,690 manufacturing back, where the tariffs are costing the American people, and it 435 00:27:59,690 --> 00:28:01,930 actually costs more to manufacture here. 436 00:28:02,310 --> 00:28:03,310 Yeah. 437 00:28:04,270 --> 00:28:11,270 They say the tariffs apparently are 438 00:28:11,270 --> 00:28:13,750 going to cost each American family like $1 ,000. 439 00:28:14,030 --> 00:28:15,070 Who would have thunk it? 440 00:28:18,410 --> 00:28:22,350 I mean, also, they did something. 441 00:28:22,930 --> 00:28:27,970 A group called the Democracy Perception Index, they did a survey of 96 442 00:28:27,970 --> 00:28:32,410 countries. Three -quarters of them prefer Beijing to Mar -a -Lago. 443 00:28:32,790 --> 00:28:37,070 Like, we're losing the popularity contest to China, which is not a good 444 00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:42,290 I mean, the people are very nice, but the leadership and what China does on a 445 00:28:42,290 --> 00:28:45,550 human rights level, on so many levels, is really quite evil. 446 00:28:46,629 --> 00:28:51,530 Absolutely. I mean, so here's where we are missing opportunities, 447 00:28:52,270 --> 00:28:56,430 right? First of all, if you care about Chinese economic aggression, industrial 448 00:28:56,430 --> 00:29:01,150 espionage, subsidies, overcapacity, overproduction, dumping on the 449 00:29:01,150 --> 00:29:06,370 market, getting grip, an artificial grip on the most critical supply chains to 450 00:29:06,370 --> 00:29:09,610 use that grip on those supply chains for coercive purposes, then we need 451 00:29:09,610 --> 00:29:12,730 collective action to work on that. But if we're kicking everybody in the ass, 452 00:29:12,810 --> 00:29:14,910 you know, who could help you, maybe you're not going to get the cooperation. 453 00:29:16,060 --> 00:29:19,460 One of the things I used to say to the president, you know, is the reason why I 454 00:29:19,460 --> 00:29:23,580 was only there for 13 months. I would say, I would say, I would say, Mr. 455 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:29,020 President, if we shoot all of our allies to get to China, China wins, you know. 456 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,540 And so we should be working more cooperatively. Then just explain me the 457 00:29:32,540 --> 00:29:33,540 thing. 458 00:29:33,629 --> 00:29:36,770 Maybe you have some insight into the thing, because you mentioned the bridge. 459 00:29:36,890 --> 00:29:40,310 There's a bridge that Canada is building between, there's one there now, but 460 00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:44,630 they're building a better one, between, I assume it's over the Detroit River. 461 00:29:44,830 --> 00:29:46,170 Detroit and Ontario. 462 00:29:46,410 --> 00:29:47,029 Yeah, of course. 463 00:29:47,030 --> 00:29:51,870 Okay. Trump, this is Trump this week. As everyone knows, the country of Canada, 464 00:29:52,050 --> 00:29:58,770 also known as Canada, has treated the United States very 465 00:29:58,770 --> 00:30:01,090 unfairly for decades. 466 00:30:02,670 --> 00:30:03,670 How? 467 00:30:04,210 --> 00:30:07,810 Canada is building a massive bridge between Ontario and Michigan. 468 00:30:08,170 --> 00:30:11,390 Prime Minister Carney, well that's inappropriate, he's called him Governor 469 00:30:11,390 --> 00:30:16,170 Carney before, wants to make a deal with China which will eat Canada alive. 470 00:30:17,830 --> 00:30:19,230 We'll just get the leftovers. 471 00:30:19,610 --> 00:30:20,610 I don't think so. 472 00:30:20,790 --> 00:30:25,390 The first thing China will do is terminate all ice hockey. What the fuck 473 00:30:25,390 --> 00:30:26,390 talking about? 474 00:30:33,530 --> 00:30:39,390 I can usually suss out something in this. I don't know where... 475 00:30:39,390 --> 00:30:45,990 Why will China take over... 476 00:30:45,990 --> 00:30:47,890 destroy hockey? 477 00:30:50,190 --> 00:30:56,910 First of all... Canada is not only 478 00:30:56,910 --> 00:30:58,590 responsible for hockey. 479 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,120 It's also responsible for heated rivalry. 480 00:31:01,380 --> 00:31:07,480 So there is nothing greater in this country. But this bridge was paid for by 481 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,680 Canada. The bridge was built with U .S. steel. 482 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:16,760 But this bridge will take toll money away from another bridge that connects 483 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:22,580 Michigan and Canada. And that bridge is owned by a big Trump donor who on Monday 484 00:31:22,580 --> 00:31:26,520 had a meeting with Howard Letnick, our Commerce Secretary, and immediately 485 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,580 following that meeting, Howard Letton had called up the president, and poof, 486 00:31:30,580 --> 00:31:31,960 no longer want this new bridge. 487 00:31:32,220 --> 00:31:36,380 Yeah, I think this is the kind of thing that is causing him, his popularity to 488 00:31:36,380 --> 00:31:37,339 go down. 489 00:31:37,340 --> 00:31:43,380 I mean, a number of things, economic things, but also this, even the common 490 00:31:43,380 --> 00:31:48,440 person, I think, understands that there's always this self -dealing 491 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,780 with everything that goes on. 492 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,920 And, you know, we're still a democracy. 493 00:31:53,140 --> 00:31:55,860 You know, it's only early in the weekend, but... 494 00:31:57,580 --> 00:32:03,060 And the immutable laws of democracy are when you get weaker politically, which 495 00:32:03,060 --> 00:32:07,800 he is now, people do begin to stand up to you. We do see more people standing 496 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,680 up. This Canada deal, there are some Republicans who joined Democrats who 497 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,860 we are not going along with your tariffs. 498 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,840 on Canada because they want to make a deal with China, who's going to get rid 499 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:19,840 hockey. 500 00:32:21,940 --> 00:32:24,280 And why is Carney going to China? 501 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,480 He's going to China because of the gratuitous insults. Like, what good does 502 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,120 do? With the mean that goes, like, part of the United States. 503 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,280 And then to embarrass their contributions. 504 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,540 Okay, hey, they do need to spend more on defense. 505 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,900 But if you want the Golden Dome, not a bad idea in my view, you need Canada. 506 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:46,380 So say, hey, guys, how about spending more on defense? I mean, we have 507 00:32:46,380 --> 00:32:50,540 legitimate issues with Canada, but the gratuitous insults, and I fought 508 00:32:50,540 --> 00:32:52,200 alongside Canadian soldiers. 509 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,360 They were incredibly tough, brave. 510 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,080 They were in one of the toughest parts of Afghanistan, and they took a hell of 511 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,780 lot of casualties in Kandahar province. 512 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,560 You know, fighting after the 9 -11 attacks against our nation. 513 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,060 We love Canada. 514 00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:06,300 We love Canada. 515 00:33:11,510 --> 00:33:15,050 He did shake the tree when it came to our NATO allies and said, pony up your 516 00:33:15,050 --> 00:33:17,790 money. And you have to give him credit for that. I do, absolutely. 517 00:33:18,350 --> 00:33:24,270 But listen, it's Valentine's Day. Let's get to the really important news 518 00:33:24,270 --> 00:33:28,870 out of the White House is that there is a baby boom going on there. 519 00:33:30,130 --> 00:33:31,130 Usha Vance. 520 00:33:31,409 --> 00:33:34,870 Pregnant, Carolyn Leavitt pregnant, and Stephen Miller's wife's where they're 521 00:33:34,870 --> 00:33:37,790 all about to have children. You know, they love babies over there at the 522 00:33:37,790 --> 00:33:41,730 conservative side of America. I don't understand it, but they think we need 523 00:33:41,730 --> 00:33:43,230 babies. I always think we need less. 524 00:33:43,770 --> 00:33:45,630 Definitely less around me ever. 525 00:33:46,730 --> 00:33:49,610 So anyway, since there's such a baby boom going on at the White House, we 526 00:33:49,610 --> 00:33:53,050 thought we would show you what some of the things that are being bought these 527 00:33:53,050 --> 00:33:56,310 days for the baby shower that's upcoming. Would you like to see these? 528 00:33:56,890 --> 00:33:58,590 This is the MAGA baby shower. 529 00:33:58,910 --> 00:34:02,750 These are some very interesting stuff. For example, there's a onesie that 530 00:34:02,790 --> 00:34:03,790 not an anchor baby. 531 00:34:08,810 --> 00:34:11,710 Somebody's also getting a doll that cries liberal tears. 532 00:34:15,909 --> 00:34:19,610 There's a baby mobile with the faces of the cast of Fox and Friends. 533 00:34:20,170 --> 00:34:22,909 That's so great for the child. 534 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,739 A baby's first blanket pardon. 535 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,080 Exactly. 536 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,040 Oh, this is interesting. Stroller nuts. 537 00:34:35,260 --> 00:34:36,659 You know, that's like the truck nuts. 538 00:34:38,540 --> 00:34:39,540 Well, 539 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,040 they love those truck nuts. Oh, a baby monitor that alerts you when your child 540 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,040 is woke. 541 00:34:52,429 --> 00:34:55,250 Autism -free infant Tylenol, that's very important. 542 00:34:59,310 --> 00:35:02,290 Oh, the Venezuelan boat bath toys. 543 00:35:06,910 --> 00:35:12,690 And my favorite, a diaper that reads, don't blame Trump, this is Biden's mess. 544 00:35:21,950 --> 00:35:25,670 I have to ask about the story that has just absolutely transfixed this nation, 545 00:35:25,770 --> 00:35:28,170 which is the kidnapping of Savannah Guthrie's mother. 546 00:35:29,170 --> 00:35:34,110 It's a sad story. I hope it will come out better than the news we've had so 547 00:35:34,230 --> 00:35:35,490 We still have our fingers crossed. 548 00:35:35,990 --> 00:35:39,310 But we seem to be in phase two now of the reporting. 549 00:35:39,510 --> 00:35:43,310 Phase one was we're obsessed with this. Now I see all these articles analyzing 550 00:35:43,310 --> 00:35:45,210 why are we obsessed with this. 551 00:35:46,330 --> 00:35:49,650 My view is I don't want to become the kidnapped country. 552 00:35:50,010 --> 00:35:53,150 I mean, obviously, it's a humanitarian story and we care about people. 553 00:35:53,630 --> 00:35:57,330 But, like, we've seen things come to this country that we didn't think would 554 00:35:57,330 --> 00:36:01,490 ever come, like pandemics and terrorism on a grand scale. 555 00:36:02,970 --> 00:36:08,250 You know, Mexico and some other countries around the world, you have to 556 00:36:08,250 --> 00:36:10,950 wonder what's going to happen when you leave the house. 557 00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:12,810 I don't want to be this country. 558 00:36:14,110 --> 00:36:17,690 People are, I mean, this is what got Trump elected. We're going to get the 559 00:36:17,690 --> 00:36:20,990 out. And then, of course, he went too far and he lost himself even on that 560 00:36:20,990 --> 00:36:23,090 issue, which was his best issue with the voters. 561 00:36:23,550 --> 00:36:27,690 But we don't want to become the kidnap country. Yeah. Right. 562 00:36:28,190 --> 00:36:31,750 Absolutely. And, you know, who knows really who this kidnapper is at the 563 00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:36,110 But if you look south of our border, there's a real problem. You know, first 564 00:36:36,110 --> 00:36:39,910 all. An unsecured border is a really bad idea, it turns out. And Trump, I think, 565 00:36:39,930 --> 00:36:42,610 does deserve a hell of a lot of credit for reestablishing border security. 566 00:36:42,990 --> 00:36:48,070 And what's happening in Mexico is 30 % of the territory in Mexico is under the 567 00:36:48,070 --> 00:36:52,330 control of the cartels. They control the police forces. Now, because of AMLO, 568 00:36:52,450 --> 00:36:57,070 Lopez Obrador, having judges elected, they control the judges. 569 00:36:57,310 --> 00:36:59,950 And they're moving it to different verticals, right? 570 00:37:00,700 --> 00:37:03,920 Human trafficking has been shut down for them, but the narcotics trafficking is 571 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:04,519 still going. 572 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,340 And now they're responsible for a large percentage of the fuel sales, the 573 00:37:08,340 --> 00:37:12,700 legitimate fuel sales in Mexico and are profiting from that. They're becoming 574 00:37:12,700 --> 00:37:13,638 all powerful. 575 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,020 I mean, we have a lot of issues to work out with Mexico, but I think Mexico has 576 00:37:17,020 --> 00:37:20,620 almost an existential crisis going on now. And it's in our interest and 577 00:37:20,620 --> 00:37:23,400 certainly in the interest of the Mexican government to go after that problem. 578 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:31,640 Let me bring the economist in on this one because kidnapping was waiting 579 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,100 one of the reasons why it was so hard to pull off because you had to transfer 580 00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:39,240 money and money was always traceable. I mean, every movie is, you know, drop the 581 00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:42,980 money in a bag off the bridge. And then a guy in a motorcycle gets it. No cops, 582 00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:43,939 you know. 583 00:37:43,940 --> 00:37:46,460 And they always would front, not with crypto. 584 00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:51,360 This is the part of this story I think we need to talk about more that I don't 585 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,480 hear very much in the media. 586 00:37:53,670 --> 00:37:58,090 Crypto. Crypto, the criminal's best friend. I never liked this shit. I 587 00:37:58,090 --> 00:38:00,510 thought it was a big scam. It is a big scam. 588 00:38:00,770 --> 00:38:06,270 And, you know, the guy who, the bit dance guy that got pardoned by Trump. 589 00:38:06,350 --> 00:38:13,310 Finance, whatever it was. You know, it was because, well, he facilitated money 590 00:38:13,310 --> 00:38:19,260 laundering. It's all money laundering. Crypto is money laundering. You take 591 00:38:19,260 --> 00:38:23,800 money and you buy this fake money, which is a pool of untraceable funds you can 592 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,160 do anything with. That's why criminals use it for sex trafficking and drug 593 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,620 trafficking and kidnapping and other criminal enterprise. 594 00:38:30,100 --> 00:38:34,480 And then they do whatever you want, and then you can buy back the profit with 595 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:35,480 your real money. 596 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,960 Eric Trump said it in broad daylight. The reason the Trump family got involved 597 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:45,050 in crypto was following January 6th. when banks said, we're taking a break 598 00:38:45,050 --> 00:38:49,950 you. So when actually real regulated financial institutions said, we're 599 00:38:49,950 --> 00:38:53,510 break, that's when they turned to crypto. And when they realized what a 600 00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:57,790 grift and phenomenal hustle it was, they went all in. And when you bring up 601 00:38:57,790 --> 00:39:02,110 Binance, that's the founder CZ, right? This guy was sentenced to prison, right? 602 00:39:02,590 --> 00:39:07,110 He then buys a huge stake in the Trump family crypto business, World Liberty 603 00:39:07,110 --> 00:39:11,870 Financial, and poof, he's out of jail. He now is still one of the largest 604 00:39:11,870 --> 00:39:16,750 holders of Trump meme coins, as well as the business. How do you think the Trump 605 00:39:16,750 --> 00:39:19,730 family is going to afford a billion dollars in a year? 606 00:39:24,170 --> 00:39:28,270 What kind of crypto regulation is there at this point? None. 607 00:39:29,020 --> 00:39:31,620 Well, I'd love to hear what you think about this, because there has to be a 608 00:39:31,620 --> 00:39:34,980 to regulate it so you can get the benefits of crypto, which is kind of 609 00:39:34,980 --> 00:39:38,520 democratizing finance, cutting out the middleman. Whatever you think of 610 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,000 decisions to debank people, some of those decisions were politically 611 00:39:42,260 --> 00:39:45,100 Do we want to be on the receiving end of being debanked for something? I don't 612 00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:45,718 think so. 613 00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:49,860 And then when you go to authoritarian regimes and the ability to move money in 614 00:39:49,860 --> 00:39:53,180 and out of those authoritarian regimes, maybe we might want to support some of 615 00:39:53,180 --> 00:39:57,360 the people in Iran who so courageously stood up before that horrible regime 616 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,360 gunned down. 617 00:40:00,820 --> 00:40:03,120 So there's some benefits to it. 618 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:09,120 How can you address kind of the anonymity issue so that you don't have 619 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:13,180 traffickers and you don't have organized crime networks moving money and still 620 00:40:13,180 --> 00:40:16,880 have the democratizing feature of it? 621 00:40:17,130 --> 00:40:20,890 Smart regulation, right? The answer isn't yes regulation, no regulation. 622 00:40:21,150 --> 00:40:24,910 But what we have in this current administration, they basically are no 623 00:40:25,070 --> 00:40:29,130 there's almost no prosecution of any white -collar criminals in the crypto 624 00:40:29,130 --> 00:40:31,270 space. There's almost no regulation whatsoever. 625 00:40:31,610 --> 00:40:35,550 During this week's testimony, you mentioned Pam Bondi's testimony this 626 00:40:35,550 --> 00:40:39,770 was asked about any sort of prosecution in the crypto space, and what did she 627 00:40:39,770 --> 00:40:42,830 do? Punted. That may have been the moment when she brought up the 628 00:40:42,830 --> 00:40:46,430 the stock market, which I'm pretty sure has no bearing on what our attorneys... 629 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:47,720 general is testifying about. 630 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,480 So. 631 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,720 You just mentioned Iran. 632 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,540 I see that they well, first of all, I thought if he was going to attack, he 633 00:40:59,540 --> 00:41:03,740 would have done it by now, because he did say a while ago when they were 634 00:41:03,740 --> 00:41:07,340 starting to kill people in the streets, we're not going to let you get away with 635 00:41:07,340 --> 00:41:10,200 this. And then he just let them hang out to dry. 636 00:41:10,580 --> 00:41:13,740 America is not a very reliable ally. I thought he was going to be different on 637 00:41:13,740 --> 00:41:14,740 that anyway. 638 00:41:15,230 --> 00:41:19,210 Now, here we are. There's two carriers now. This is just as of a couple of days 639 00:41:19,210 --> 00:41:23,650 ago now in the region. He also says we have a discombobulator. I don't know 640 00:41:23,650 --> 00:41:24,650 that is. 641 00:41:25,410 --> 00:41:27,370 I'm glad we have it, though. Aren't you glad? 642 00:41:29,710 --> 00:41:30,990 I'm glad it's on our side. 643 00:41:31,330 --> 00:41:35,050 I don't know. It sounds like something Benny Hill has. 644 00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:39,950 I guess I am. 645 00:41:41,070 --> 00:41:44,170 Yeah, I certainly don't want to be a discombobulator gap. 646 00:41:46,970 --> 00:41:52,250 But, okay, so this week they put out this, that we have to talk to our allies 647 00:41:52,250 --> 00:41:53,510 first before anything happens. 648 00:41:53,890 --> 00:41:57,630 He said we have to check with international law and that we need more 649 00:41:57,630 --> 00:41:58,630 put things in place. 650 00:41:58,710 --> 00:42:01,450 I read that as saying they're going to attack this weekend. 651 00:42:02,130 --> 00:42:05,820 Maybe. You know, I think the chances are pretty high. You do? 652 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,660 Yeah, I do. And I think the reason why they were kind of left out to dry there 653 00:42:10,660 --> 00:42:14,920 after the president's pledge to support them is we didn't have enough defensive 654 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,460 capabilities in the region. We had plenty of... 655 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,560 assets there to conduct strikes against what you might think, the tools of 656 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,920 repression of the regime, maybe the Basij or IRGC facilities. 657 00:42:25,540 --> 00:42:29,200 But we didn't have enough to go after what they might do in response. 658 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:34,040 You know, the counter missile, the counter drone defenses, going after the 659 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:39,560 Navy, which has been harassing our ships in the Bab al -Mandeb area and then up 660 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,400 in the Persian Gulf. Okay, but if our goal is to stop... killing the 661 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,880 in the streets. That's the Revolutionary Guard. These are the thugs who have 662 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,420 taken over this country 50 years ago and still have it. 663 00:42:50,460 --> 00:42:53,340 It's a combination of a theocracy and this mafia. 664 00:42:57,279 --> 00:43:01,600 is entailed in this attack that is going to topple the Revolutionary Guard. 665 00:43:01,820 --> 00:43:06,400 Who are we firing guns at? Who are we firing our missiles at? And how will it 666 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,640 affect the people in the street? I don't get it. Well, I mean, you could go 667 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:10,640 after the leadership. 668 00:43:10,780 --> 00:43:15,790 And what the Israelis did in that 12 -day campaign is they took out... two 669 00:43:15,790 --> 00:43:20,250 leaders of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps. So if you're a leader of 670 00:43:20,250 --> 00:43:25,310 these organizations, the Basij and the IRGC, you might maybe think twice before 671 00:43:25,310 --> 00:43:30,870 now you've gone down 30 ,000 people again. So I think that there are some 672 00:43:30,870 --> 00:43:35,670 capabilities that are relevant to dissuading them from the kind of mass 673 00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:39,490 and brutality that we saw. It's really unprecedented since World War II. 674 00:43:40,020 --> 00:43:44,800 30 ,000 people, these are reliable numbers, killed in a 48 -hour period. 675 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,380 What I would like to see are a number of other actions taken internationally. 676 00:43:48,860 --> 00:43:52,980 Why the hell is there any Iranian embassy open anywhere in the world? 677 00:43:53,220 --> 00:43:54,480 Kick those guys the hell out. 678 00:43:55,140 --> 00:44:00,140 And a lot more financial pressure, we're doing that. I mean, there's more that 679 00:44:00,140 --> 00:44:04,480 can be done outside of the military instrument as well. Okay, so that's 680 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:05,480 diplomacy. 681 00:44:05,580 --> 00:44:09,680 And if what we're doing this weekend potentially is bombing Iran, then 682 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:10,880 is trumping diplomacy. 683 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,300 And isn't the big question we have to ask, let's say you bomb the hell out of 684 00:44:14,300 --> 00:44:17,980 them. Let's say it's a brilliant execution, right? What next? 685 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,280 People in Venezuela may be thrilled that Maduro isn't there, but they're 686 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,560 panicked saying, what's next? 687 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,440 And we've yet to hear this administration articulate any of that. 688 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:32,680 were a true cynic, they might say, could the exact timing of this bombing be... 689 00:44:33,020 --> 00:44:37,060 the president who understands politics and media better than maybe any other 690 00:44:37,060 --> 00:44:38,060 modern politician. 691 00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:42,780 So on Sunday, when most likely all the Sunday shows will be covering Pam 692 00:44:42,780 --> 00:44:47,020 disastrous hearing, Howard Lutnick's disastrous hearing, the reports out 693 00:44:47,020 --> 00:44:50,220 the board about the Epstein files, we're not going to be talking about that 694 00:44:50,220 --> 00:44:53,480 because Iran will be the only thing in the news. The only people talking about 695 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,180 that are the people you and I know on the coast who watch those shows. Nobody 696 00:44:57,180 --> 00:45:00,360 gives a shit about the Sunday shows. You don't think America... No. Hold on. 697 00:45:00,570 --> 00:45:05,670 That's not America. How many people watch the... They do the Epstein files, 698 00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:07,890 do. They don't watch the Sunday shows and make their decisions. But President 699 00:45:07,890 --> 00:45:11,510 Trump does. Oh, yes, he definitely does. And that's what I'm talking about. The 700 00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:15,250 other factor is Ramadan begins next week. So that may be another... But I 701 00:45:15,290 --> 00:45:19,150 I was very supportive of bombing the nuclear facility in Iran. I thought that 702 00:45:19,150 --> 00:45:19,968 was great. 703 00:45:19,970 --> 00:45:23,930 I don't... I understood the goal there, and I understood how it could just be 704 00:45:23,930 --> 00:45:25,510 ended with the bombing itself. 705 00:45:26,010 --> 00:45:27,970 I don't get this one. But... 706 00:45:28,410 --> 00:45:31,530 I have like half a minute to ask you this last question because you're the 707 00:45:31,530 --> 00:45:32,530 military guy. 708 00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:36,610 The START treaty, we're familiar with this. This is the treaty we've had for 709 00:45:36,610 --> 00:45:38,850 years between the United States and Russia. 710 00:45:39,410 --> 00:45:42,350 Well, if you don't know what the START treaty is, it stopped. 711 00:45:43,230 --> 00:45:48,490 It's now expired. We have nothing that says that Russia and the United States 712 00:45:48,490 --> 00:45:54,130 can't now build any number of nuclear weapons. 713 00:45:55,820 --> 00:45:59,280 What is your take on that? I'm okay with the Star Treaty going away. Really? 714 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,000 Because I think it's the first step to now doing something more broadly. 715 00:46:02,260 --> 00:46:06,580 You know, China is increasing its nuclear forces by 400%. 716 00:46:07,420 --> 00:46:10,960 400%. They're not a party to the treaty. It's kind of the same as the 717 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,160 Intermediate Nuclear Force Treaty that went away. 718 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,480 It was important that that went away because we were constraining ourselves. 719 00:46:16,660 --> 00:46:19,860 Russia was violating it, and China wasn't even a signatory. 720 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:24,720 So we were taking off the table for us the development of land -based long 721 00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:25,820 -range strike capabilities. 722 00:46:26,220 --> 00:46:27,380 So I'm hopeful. 723 00:46:27,820 --> 00:46:31,860 that this might be the beginning of maybe getting back on the path towards 724 00:46:31,860 --> 00:46:33,760 kind of a dialogue about strategic forces. 725 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,700 President Trump, this is a priority for him. I got to tell you. I mean, he would 726 00:46:37,700 --> 00:46:39,780 talk about it often. He hates nuclear weapons. 727 00:46:40,300 --> 00:46:44,040 Putin kind of plays that card a lot with President Trump. Hey, Donald, you know, 728 00:46:44,060 --> 00:46:46,960 wouldn't it be great if we could work together? And it's all lies. But anyway, 729 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,440 he plays that. But the real key is to bring China in. 730 00:46:50,890 --> 00:46:54,390 and to do it to reduce the stockpiles, control them more effectively, but then 731 00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:56,090 also work on non -proliferation. 732 00:46:56,310 --> 00:46:57,310 All right. Thank you. 733 00:46:57,670 --> 00:46:59,650 I got to go. Happy New Year, everybody. 734 00:47:03,370 --> 00:47:04,370 Thank you. 735 00:47:04,750 --> 00:47:05,750 Okay. 736 00:47:08,330 --> 00:47:12,330 Hello. Someone with a psychology degree has to tell me why the ultimate act of 737 00:47:12,330 --> 00:47:14,390 joyous abandon is dancing on a car. 738 00:47:16,780 --> 00:47:20,620 Big Bunny at the Super Bowl dancing in a car. La La Land dancing on a car. 739 00:47:20,820 --> 00:47:24,960 Fame dancing on a car. Michael Jackson dancing on a car. Tony Catan for 740 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,380 Whitesnake dancing on a car. 741 00:47:27,020 --> 00:47:29,440 Whoever these guys are dancing on a car. 742 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,060 Choreographers have ruined more cars than ice. 743 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,120 Why? 744 00:47:41,260 --> 00:47:44,840 Jeez, there's got to be a fresher way to show you're fun and full of life, like 745 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,100 singing into a hairbrush. 746 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,480 No, someone must tell the Norwegian biathlete who won a bronze medal and 747 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,160 promptly confessed to cheating on his girlfriend on live TV. 748 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,320 Sometimes just say, I'm happy I won. 749 00:48:09,390 --> 00:48:11,430 But congratulations on the bronze. 750 00:48:12,710 --> 00:48:15,770 And also for winning the gold for biggest dumbass. 751 00:48:20,990 --> 00:48:25,410 No, well, if India's intent is to intimidate us with a show of military 752 00:48:25,530 --> 00:48:27,330 they're going to have to release a different picture. 753 00:48:28,810 --> 00:48:34,010 This photo doesn't say lethal combat unit. It says the guy behind me is 754 00:48:34,010 --> 00:48:35,010 too close. 755 00:48:42,730 --> 00:48:45,970 Well, you can call it skiing, you can call it snowboarding, you can call it 756 00:48:45,970 --> 00:48:50,110 bobsledding, the skeleton, the luge, but what we must all admit is that most of 757 00:48:50,110 --> 00:48:51,910 the Olympics is just one sport. 758 00:48:52,270 --> 00:48:54,230 Different ways to fall down a hill. 759 00:48:57,350 --> 00:48:58,670 Somebody had to say it. 760 00:48:59,090 --> 00:49:00,250 It had to be said. 761 00:49:00,690 --> 00:49:05,550 I know of a 21 -year -old woman who went backpacking through Australia, thought 762 00:49:05,550 --> 00:49:08,730 she got a stomach bug, and ended up delivering a baby. 763 00:49:09,650 --> 00:49:12,570 Let's admit that she wishes she had just gotten a stomach bug. 764 00:49:16,130 --> 00:49:22,890 Because at least with that, all of the shitting, pissing, and crying only 765 00:49:22,890 --> 00:49:23,890 lasts a few days. 766 00:49:25,350 --> 00:49:30,010 And finally, new rule, this Valentine's Day, men have to give women what they 767 00:49:30,010 --> 00:49:33,470 really want, to grow up and start being men again. 768 00:49:41,420 --> 00:49:43,420 a new word recently, hub son. 769 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,880 Hub son, like husband, but it's the son. 770 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:52,640 It's grown men who freed themselves from the shackles of wage slavery to live at 771 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,960 home, rent free with the parents or just mom. 772 00:49:55,480 --> 00:50:00,140 They're also called kept sons. They live with mom and do all the jobs dad used 773 00:50:00,140 --> 00:50:04,640 to do. You know, fix stuff around the house, take out the trash, make sure 774 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,180 it's mom's turn to host book club, the girls have enough Pinot Noir. 775 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,500 You know, I wondered why Pornhub had so many stepson videos. 776 00:50:17,340 --> 00:50:20,300 It's because sons are dating their moms now. That's why. 777 00:50:27,260 --> 00:50:29,720 And it just works, okay? 778 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,000 There's no awkward getting -to -know -you phase. 779 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,660 And if someone asks, hey, how did you two meet? You can say, funny story, she 780 00:50:39,660 --> 00:50:40,880 pushed me out of her vagina. 781 00:50:48,970 --> 00:50:53,010 Is it any wonder so many women these days are asking, where have all the real 782 00:50:53,010 --> 00:50:54,009 men gone? 783 00:50:54,010 --> 00:50:56,830 I mean, look at their dating profiles. 784 00:50:57,110 --> 00:50:59,430 Living with mom is not one of the turn -ons. 785 00:51:01,370 --> 00:51:03,630 Guys in jail do better with chicks. 786 00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:15,750 Men are so consistently disappointing these days that there's a new trend 787 00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:17,510 women are in lieu of dating. 788 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,720 Going to the shelter and walking a dog instead. 789 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,740 At least that way there's some chance of ending up with a nose in your crotch. 790 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,620 Sociologists say we're going through a sex recession, which is like a regular 791 00:51:37,620 --> 00:51:41,000 recession, except in a regular recession you get laid off, and here you don't 792 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,000 get laid at all. 793 00:51:48,810 --> 00:51:55,730 24 % of men, 22 to 34, say they've had zero sexual activity in the 794 00:51:55,730 --> 00:51:58,650 past year, what we used to call being married. 795 00:52:01,810 --> 00:52:08,490 44 % of Gen Z men report having no relationship experience at all 796 00:52:08,490 --> 00:52:11,010 during their teen years, except with Adderall. 797 00:52:13,970 --> 00:52:15,550 This is not healthy. 798 00:52:16,010 --> 00:52:18,570 Although it does explain the steep drop in cooties. 799 00:52:21,430 --> 00:52:28,190 Scariest of all, 45 % of men aged 18 to 25 have never approached a woman in 800 00:52:28,190 --> 00:52:33,170 person. The only women Gen Z men talk to these days are Siri and Alexa, and a 801 00:52:33,170 --> 00:52:36,330 fat guy in the Philippines is pretending to be the guy they think they're 802 00:52:36,330 --> 00:52:37,790 sexting with on OnlyFans. 803 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:50,000 Women are feeling so sexually unfulfilled lately that there's a new 804 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:55,540 literature that's propping up the entire book -buying market. It's called 805 00:52:55,540 --> 00:53:01,420 romantasy. Kind of like the old romance novel epitomized by Fabio on the cover. 806 00:53:03,180 --> 00:53:08,160 Except women are so horny now, even he's not enough. They want to fuck an actual 807 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,720 animal. I'm not kidding. 808 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,280 In the drawer with the vibrator in it now. 809 00:53:13,790 --> 00:53:19,670 are books with titles like My Minotaur Husband, Sleeping with Monsters, The 810 00:53:19,670 --> 00:53:24,570 Dragon's Bride, Stalked by the Kraken, and Radley's Home for Horny Monsters. 811 00:53:31,770 --> 00:53:37,030 Tales of romance, but with minotaurs and centaurs, werewolves, vampires, 812 00:53:37,370 --> 00:53:38,990 anything but a human man. 813 00:53:41,660 --> 00:53:44,840 Seven foot tall, winged, shadow demon, absolutely. 814 00:53:46,660 --> 00:53:50,120 Viking warrior who carries you off over his shoulder, no problem. 815 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,820 That's the message of these books. If I can't find a man to get me off, I'll get 816 00:53:54,820 --> 00:53:55,900 Dracula to do it. 817 00:54:03,220 --> 00:54:10,040 Morning Glory Milking Farm is the 818 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:14,500 story... of a millennial girl who takes a job at a minotaur milking farm. 819 00:54:15,420 --> 00:54:17,620 You know, a minotaur milking farm. 820 00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:24,500 And well, one thing leads to another and she winds up fucking a guy who's half 821 00:54:24,500 --> 00:54:25,500 bull. 822 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,160 Which brings me to Taylor Swift. 823 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:32,680 Hear me out. 824 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,620 Hear me out. 825 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:40,300 I think Taylor Swift epitomizes the journey that a lot of women have been 826 00:54:40,300 --> 00:54:43,540 through. Yes, women wanted men to be more sensitive. 827 00:54:44,300 --> 00:54:48,660 Sensitive, but not some noodle -bodied human turtleneck who wears the same 828 00:54:48,660 --> 00:54:49,660 clothes they do. 829 00:54:51,720 --> 00:54:56,100 Timothee Chalamet is very talented and I'm sure very sexy to women, but on the 830 00:54:56,100 --> 00:55:01,020 hunk scale, he feels like the leftover pieces from after they made Burt 831 00:55:01,020 --> 00:55:02,020 Reynolds. 832 00:55:11,020 --> 00:55:16,120 Taylor Swift went from writing songs about what a dick this guy was to her 833 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:20,180 what a dick this guy was to her to what a dick this guy has. 834 00:55:25,740 --> 00:55:31,580 He dated a procession of skinny, fey, gay -adjacent meeks. 835 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:38,040 Porcelain doll, shy guy, twink -like, tortured poet, metrosexuals in American 836 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:43,740 Europe. But the second she got some old -school wood from the heartland, it was 837 00:55:43,740 --> 00:55:44,740 game over. 838 00:55:46,300 --> 00:55:52,920 So welcome home, Taylor, and happy Valentine's Day, but... I mean... 839 00:55:53,740 --> 00:55:57,300 Taylor is hardly the only one. You can hear it in the lyrics from all of 840 00:55:57,300 --> 00:55:58,340 female pop stars. 841 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,560 They're practically screaming that they can't get no satisfaction. 842 00:56:02,900 --> 00:56:07,340 Doja Cat rapped, I don't really got no type. I just want to fuck all night. 843 00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:12,940 Charlie XCX and Billie Eilish have a song that goes, try it, bite it, lick 844 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,440 spit it. Hold it in the side, get up all in it. 845 00:56:16,100 --> 00:56:19,020 Geez, when they're not saying fuck ice, they're saying fuck me. 846 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,060 Problem is, they're living in a world full of guys who are afraid to even make 847 00:56:31,060 --> 00:56:32,920 eye contact without an NDA. 848 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,860 Because in America, the pendulum never stops in the middle. The younger 849 00:56:37,860 --> 00:56:42,860 generation of men caught the backlash from like, you know, five million years 850 00:56:42,860 --> 00:56:46,480 human history. And I feel for you guys. You were born in a society that said 851 00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,760 just being male was toxic. 852 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,180 And in a world where everything you said was mansplaining and everything you did 853 00:56:53,180 --> 00:56:57,220 was an eye roll and merely approaching a woman could get you canceled, it got 854 00:56:57,220 --> 00:56:59,200 very easy for men to just give up. 855 00:56:59,720 --> 00:57:05,080 And when they did, Pornhub and Tinder and OnlyFans were right there to take up 856 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,080 the slack. 857 00:57:06,780 --> 00:57:08,880 Thing is, the technology changed. 858 00:57:09,660 --> 00:57:10,800 Women didn't. 859 00:57:11,140 --> 00:57:16,560 They still want eye contact and face -to -face conversation and also a pair of 860 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:17,560 balls would be nice. 861 00:57:24,970 --> 00:57:31,550 Because in real life, I'm sorry, I mean IRL, when a girl blows you off when you 862 00:57:31,550 --> 00:57:35,650 ask her to dance, you can't just type fuck you and log off. You have to take 863 00:57:35,650 --> 00:57:40,710 that long walk of shame back to your table to tell your friends, no, she's a 864 00:57:40,710 --> 00:57:41,710 lesbian. 865 00:57:42,050 --> 00:57:45,810 All right, that's our show. I want to thank my guests, Global National 866 00:57:45,810 --> 00:57:49,410 Advisor, HR McMaster, Stephanie Ruhle, and Jonathan Haidt. 867 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,460 Random drops every Monday on YouTube for listeners to get your podcast. 868 00:57:53,700 --> 00:57:55,440 Now go watch Overtime on YouTube. 869 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,900 Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Happy Valentine's Day. 79776

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