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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,979 --> 00:00:14,047 (pages flapping) 2 00:00:15,617 --> 00:00:18,352 (gentle music) 3 00:00:20,722 --> 00:00:23,591 (pleasant music) 4 00:00:25,158 --> 00:00:28,028 ♪ I started out to go to Cuba ♪ 5 00:00:28,161 --> 00:00:31,131 ♪ I landed in Miami Beach ♪ 6 00:00:31,265 --> 00:00:34,268 ♪ It's not so very far from Cuba ♪ 7 00:00:34,401 --> 00:00:36,905 ♪ And oh what a rumba they teach ♪ 8 00:00:37,037 --> 00:00:39,741 (upbeat music) 9 00:00:39,874 --> 00:00:43,511 [Larry] My first national talk show started in Miami. 10 00:00:43,645 --> 00:00:49,082 From the sun and fun capital of the world, 11 00:00:49,918 --> 00:00:51,786 this is "The Larry King Show." 12 00:00:53,955 --> 00:00:57,357 Miami Beach fermented everything for me. 13 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,062 Bunny Yeager came on my show a few times, I interviewed her. 14 00:01:03,665 --> 00:01:05,567 She was special. 15 00:01:05,700 --> 00:01:08,570 (pleasant music) 16 00:01:12,774 --> 00:01:15,409 How many beautiful girls do you know 17 00:01:15,543 --> 00:01:19,514 who could have been a major model, movie star? 18 00:01:20,915 --> 00:01:25,753 How many do you know would be a photographer of pinup girls? 19 00:01:26,888 --> 00:01:28,690 - She didn't really get the credit she deserved. 20 00:01:29,657 --> 00:01:32,359 - She was so far ahead of her time. 21 00:01:32,492 --> 00:01:34,529 - The work that she did paved the way for me 22 00:01:34,662 --> 00:01:36,664 to be able to do what I do now. 23 00:01:37,565 --> 00:01:39,466 - In photographing herself, 24 00:01:39,601 --> 00:01:42,269 she found incredible empowerment. 25 00:01:43,638 --> 00:01:46,808 - She should be woven into the narrative of art history 26 00:01:46,941 --> 00:01:48,610 because she deserved to be. 27 00:01:49,944 --> 00:01:52,814 (pleasant music) 28 00:02:00,521 --> 00:02:04,224 (pleasant music continues) 29 00:02:12,265 --> 00:02:16,203 (pleasant music continues) 30 00:02:23,645 --> 00:02:27,582 (pleasant music continues) 31 00:02:35,288 --> 00:02:39,226 (pleasant music continues) 32 00:02:47,467 --> 00:02:50,404 (bright music) 33 00:02:53,608 --> 00:02:55,610 - [Sarahjane] In the 1940s, 34 00:02:55,743 --> 00:02:58,378 Bunny Yeager starts out as a model. 35 00:03:03,985 --> 00:03:06,286 - [Dian] She was photographed by a lot of photographers, 36 00:03:06,420 --> 00:03:08,388 she got into all the magazines. 37 00:03:13,326 --> 00:03:17,131 But then she got an interest in taking pictures herself. 38 00:03:17,264 --> 00:03:19,466 - [Christie] She thought men are getting paid for this, 39 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,435 so why shouldn't I? 40 00:03:22,804 --> 00:03:25,472 - [Ed] And for whatever reason, right from the beginning, 41 00:03:25,606 --> 00:03:27,675 she was shooting great work. 42 00:03:27,809 --> 00:03:30,545 (upbeat music) 43 00:03:38,351 --> 00:03:41,723 (upbeat music continues) 44 00:03:41,856 --> 00:03:45,827 Bunny used to work every year with a guy named Roy Penny. 45 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,829 - [Carlos] He was the one that identified her 46 00:03:47,962 --> 00:03:51,999 as the world's prettiest, most beautiful photographer. 47 00:03:52,133 --> 00:03:54,869 (upbeat music) 48 00:03:58,606 --> 00:04:01,075 - [Ed] And that storyline became the cover 49 00:04:01,209 --> 00:04:03,611 of "US Camera" in 1953. 50 00:04:04,946 --> 00:04:06,413 - [Sarahjane] She was also one of the world's 51 00:04:06,547 --> 00:04:07,982 hardest working photographers, 52 00:04:08,116 --> 00:04:10,518 one of the world's most successful photographers, 53 00:04:10,651 --> 00:04:13,320 one of the world's most daring photographers. 54 00:04:15,422 --> 00:04:17,091 And one of the things that I think 55 00:04:17,225 --> 00:04:20,895 really is classic Bunny is that she took it, 56 00:04:21,028 --> 00:04:22,764 and she ran with it. 57 00:04:22,897 --> 00:04:25,633 (upbeat music) 58 00:04:31,939 --> 00:04:33,808 - [Dita] I really love the pictures of Bunny Yeager as a 59 00:04:33,941 --> 00:04:36,778 model when she was super platinum blonde. 60 00:04:39,714 --> 00:04:41,516 I love those pictures. 61 00:04:41,649 --> 00:04:44,218 I think it's so important that she was like 62 00:04:44,384 --> 00:04:46,687 a bombshell pinup girl. 63 00:04:46,821 --> 00:04:48,455 It really made all the difference 64 00:04:48,589 --> 00:04:50,758 in how she photographed other people. 65 00:04:51,926 --> 00:04:53,761 - [Sarahjane] There's always been lots of 66 00:04:53,895 --> 00:04:55,428 different ways to take a photograph. 67 00:04:55,563 --> 00:04:58,431 There's photographs that are about showing you 68 00:04:58,566 --> 00:05:01,936 on your best day, and then a tiny bit better. 69 00:05:02,069 --> 00:05:04,539 That's what Bunny's photographs were. 70 00:05:05,405 --> 00:05:08,009 (pleasant music) 71 00:05:08,142 --> 00:05:12,780 - She could take a relatively plain looking young woman, 72 00:05:12,914 --> 00:05:16,717 and she'd get the greatest photo she ever took in her life. 73 00:05:18,653 --> 00:05:20,822 She just would transform them. 74 00:05:23,390 --> 00:05:24,424 - Everything in Bunny's photographs 75 00:05:24,559 --> 00:05:25,993 was pretty much calculated. 76 00:05:26,127 --> 00:05:28,196 - [Bunny] Her hair and complexion were so delicate, 77 00:05:28,328 --> 00:05:31,799 it was difficult to control the lighting ratio in the sun. 78 00:05:33,201 --> 00:05:34,802 - [Carlos] Like she said, there was a reason to her madness. 79 00:05:34,936 --> 00:05:36,137 - [Bunny] I wanted to shoot her this way 80 00:05:36,270 --> 00:05:37,470 because in a natural setting, 81 00:05:37,605 --> 00:05:39,841 she would be far more outstanding. 82 00:05:41,075 --> 00:05:42,910 - [Carlos] She will take notes prior to assembling 83 00:05:43,044 --> 00:05:44,645 a story for a photograph. 84 00:05:44,779 --> 00:05:47,815 - She had incredibly high standards, 85 00:05:47,949 --> 00:05:50,618 and she worked incredibly fast. 86 00:05:50,751 --> 00:05:52,186 - That's one of my favorite things about working 87 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,488 with former models that are also photographers. 88 00:05:55,623 --> 00:05:57,859 They know how they wanna be seen. 89 00:05:57,992 --> 00:06:00,928 They know that they wanna be shown in their best light 90 00:06:01,062 --> 00:06:03,396 and their most beautiful, their most sexy. 91 00:06:03,531 --> 00:06:05,867 They want their flaws disguised, 92 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,270 they want their assets amplified. 93 00:06:09,402 --> 00:06:12,472 (pleasant music) 94 00:06:14,441 --> 00:06:16,143 - [ASL Interpreter] I remember watching my mom mimic 95 00:06:16,277 --> 00:06:20,948 the face poses that she wanted the models to have. 96 00:06:21,082 --> 00:06:22,617 It was fascinating. 97 00:06:22,750 --> 00:06:26,320 - If her model could arch her back in a specific way, 98 00:06:26,453 --> 00:06:29,123 she was gonna arch her back to 110%. 99 00:06:29,257 --> 00:06:32,459 - What better homework could there be than Bunny Yeager 100 00:06:32,593 --> 00:06:34,028 being a pinup model herself? 101 00:06:34,161 --> 00:06:36,697 So she could say like, "Yeah, I know that's killing 102 00:06:36,831 --> 00:06:39,700 your back right now, yes, I know it feels unnatural, 103 00:06:39,834 --> 00:06:42,570 but we are gonna get a beautiful shot." 104 00:06:42,703 --> 00:06:45,907 That's something that not just anybody can convey. 105 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,776 - [Ed] She had just this incredible skill 106 00:06:48,910 --> 00:06:53,981 for finding models, and convincing them to work with her. 107 00:06:55,116 --> 00:06:56,684 'Cause that's, you know, that's the key, 108 00:06:56,817 --> 00:06:59,120 especially when you're doing nude photography. 109 00:06:59,253 --> 00:07:02,123 (pleasant music) 110 00:07:02,256 --> 00:07:05,492 - If a man or woman walked around a neighborhood, 111 00:07:05,626 --> 00:07:08,829 knocked on a door today and said, "Hey, hi, 112 00:07:08,963 --> 00:07:13,200 I'm so and so, I am a photographer, would you pose nude? 113 00:07:13,334 --> 00:07:15,836 They'd slam the door and call the police? 114 00:07:15,970 --> 00:07:18,773 - Look, Terry, let me talk frankly with you. 115 00:07:18,906 --> 00:07:21,542 You and I could make a lot of money together. 116 00:07:21,676 --> 00:07:23,978 - You mean by me posing nude for you? 117 00:07:24,111 --> 00:07:27,782 - What's wrong with that? You've seen my pictures. 118 00:07:27,915 --> 00:07:30,751 - But Bunny specifically picks people 119 00:07:30,885 --> 00:07:32,954 because they have a sparkle in their eyes, 120 00:07:33,087 --> 00:07:35,690 because they have something in their personality 121 00:07:35,823 --> 00:07:37,558 that she thinks she can get across. 122 00:07:37,692 --> 00:07:39,393 - Bunny always knew how to identify 123 00:07:39,527 --> 00:07:41,494 a particular face, a Bunny girl 124 00:07:41,629 --> 00:07:42,930 like Bruce Weber used to say, 125 00:07:43,064 --> 00:07:46,534 "I can spot a Bunny girl in the supermarket." 126 00:07:46,667 --> 00:07:49,537 - She has that swagger, you know? 127 00:07:49,670 --> 00:07:52,206 She has that life in herself, you know? 128 00:07:52,340 --> 00:07:53,975 That kind of fearless, like, I don't care 129 00:07:54,108 --> 00:07:57,878 what you think of me, I'm just being myself. 130 00:07:58,012 --> 00:08:01,449 - I won the scholarship to Cornett Model Agency, 131 00:08:01,582 --> 00:08:02,883 and that's how I started modeling 132 00:08:03,017 --> 00:08:05,886 for Burdines in the tea room. 133 00:08:06,020 --> 00:08:08,656 I modeled for Emilio Pucci, 134 00:08:08,789 --> 00:08:11,926 who's very famous now, he's dead, but... 135 00:08:13,127 --> 00:08:17,131 I think we got something like $25, 136 00:08:17,264 --> 00:08:19,600 or $30 for a fashion show, 137 00:08:19,734 --> 00:08:21,569 and like $12 for the fitting. 138 00:08:21,702 --> 00:08:25,706 You had to go, you know, before and fit into your clothes. 139 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,242 My first shoot with Bunny, 140 00:08:29,210 --> 00:08:30,845 I was living on Rivo Alto Island, 141 00:08:30,978 --> 00:08:34,415 and I think we went somewhere in my neighborhood. 142 00:08:34,548 --> 00:08:35,850 - [Interviewer] Did you feel like when you did that, 143 00:08:35,983 --> 00:08:37,852 it was a brave thing to do? 144 00:08:39,286 --> 00:08:41,789 - No, I thought it was just earning money. 145 00:08:43,057 --> 00:08:45,926 (pleasant music) 146 00:08:48,262 --> 00:08:50,364 - Depending on your looks 147 00:08:50,498 --> 00:08:54,035 for a living is intimidating. 148 00:08:54,902 --> 00:08:56,237 I wouldn't be caught dead 149 00:08:56,370 --> 00:08:58,973 going out to get the mail without my makeup. 150 00:09:03,144 --> 00:09:06,380 I enjoyed getting the paycheck every time, 151 00:09:06,515 --> 00:09:07,782 and it was very much needed. 152 00:09:07,915 --> 00:09:10,084 I was supporting my mother and myself, 153 00:09:10,217 --> 00:09:12,820 and had a household to take care of. 154 00:09:14,488 --> 00:09:17,358 - I've looked at a lot of pinup photography in my life, 155 00:09:17,491 --> 00:09:20,661 and the thing that I've noticed about the photos 156 00:09:20,795 --> 00:09:22,830 Bunny Yeager took of her models 157 00:09:22,963 --> 00:09:26,700 is that you see so much of their personality. 158 00:09:26,834 --> 00:09:29,203 - There's something inherently female 159 00:09:29,336 --> 00:09:31,038 about the way that she looks at her subjects, 160 00:09:31,172 --> 00:09:32,940 and you can feel it reflected back at you, 161 00:09:33,074 --> 00:09:35,843 because the models, they don't look as much like objects. 162 00:09:35,976 --> 00:09:39,146 - She's a friend and you see that in the pictures, 163 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,882 the way that the women really trusted her, 164 00:09:42,016 --> 00:09:45,152 and were hungry for a friendship, you know? 165 00:09:45,286 --> 00:09:48,155 (pleasant music) 166 00:09:50,891 --> 00:09:52,793 - A lot of these models in a million years 167 00:09:52,927 --> 00:09:54,929 wouldn't have worked with a male photographer. 168 00:09:55,062 --> 00:09:57,998 - People really responded to her, she had a big personality, 169 00:09:58,132 --> 00:10:01,802 and she made people feel like they were a part of her world 170 00:10:01,936 --> 00:10:03,671 as soon as they came in. 171 00:10:03,804 --> 00:10:06,874 (upbeat music) 172 00:10:07,007 --> 00:10:08,309 - She knew how to pose, 173 00:10:08,442 --> 00:10:13,147 and she knew just how you were feeling. 174 00:10:14,281 --> 00:10:16,250 If you felt awkward or something, she'd say, 175 00:10:16,383 --> 00:10:20,621 "Well, relax just a little bit and try this or try that." 176 00:10:20,754 --> 00:10:24,725 You just felt like you were with a girlfriend, actually. 177 00:10:26,427 --> 00:10:27,928 - That was fun, 178 00:10:29,163 --> 00:10:31,999 and I think I looked like I was having fun. 179 00:10:32,133 --> 00:10:34,603 She was easy to work for in that way, 180 00:10:34,735 --> 00:10:39,373 talking to you and making you laugh and putting you at ease. 181 00:10:40,941 --> 00:10:42,977 Bunny was unique in the sense 182 00:10:43,110 --> 00:10:46,548 that she was doing, well, cheesecake photography. 183 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:48,115 I mean, a lot of those pictures, 184 00:10:48,249 --> 00:10:51,418 for the 50s, we're talking risque. 185 00:10:53,154 --> 00:10:55,789 She always seemed to wanna pull it down 186 00:10:55,923 --> 00:10:57,925 a little bit on the side, or... 187 00:10:59,793 --> 00:11:04,231 Compared to now, they look like, you know, Mickey Mouse. 188 00:11:04,932 --> 00:11:08,002 (pleasant music) 189 00:11:09,670 --> 00:11:12,973 I don't really remember this picture at all looking at it. 190 00:11:13,107 --> 00:11:16,043 There was a chalks on a sea plane, 191 00:11:16,177 --> 00:11:20,714 but I do remember Bunny was very creative finding locations. 192 00:11:21,348 --> 00:11:24,084 (bright music) 193 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:31,759 - So the 1950s gives us both this virginal view 194 00:11:32,726 --> 00:11:34,195 of the woman as domestic goddess, 195 00:11:34,328 --> 00:11:38,465 but also this kind of wellspring of teenage rebellion. 196 00:11:41,168 --> 00:11:43,638 For women like Bunny Yeager, 197 00:11:43,771 --> 00:11:45,806 for women like Marilyn Monroe, 198 00:11:45,940 --> 00:11:48,075 you find that they're really willing 199 00:11:48,209 --> 00:11:52,913 to put themselves out there, and exploit and explore 200 00:11:53,047 --> 00:11:55,282 that friction, that space. 201 00:11:57,284 --> 00:11:59,720 - My name is Christy Strong, and I'm the granddaughter 202 00:11:59,853 --> 00:12:03,324 of Maria Stinger, who was one of Bunny Yeager's best friends 203 00:12:03,457 --> 00:12:05,492 and biggest models back in the day. 204 00:12:06,493 --> 00:12:09,363 (pleasant music) 205 00:12:13,867 --> 00:12:16,937 Maria was known as being Miami's Marilyn. 206 00:12:17,071 --> 00:12:19,507 She won Marilyn Monroe lookalike contests, 207 00:12:19,641 --> 00:12:23,944 she was in calendars, she was on the cover of magazines. 208 00:12:27,582 --> 00:12:30,217 Bunny was really the one that blew her up. 209 00:12:31,620 --> 00:12:35,155 And what she loved about Maria is that Maria had no fear. 210 00:12:35,289 --> 00:12:37,258 (pleasant music) 211 00:12:37,391 --> 00:12:39,093 - [Sarahjane] Maria Stinger was a handful, 212 00:12:39,226 --> 00:12:41,529 Maria Stinger was Bunny's best friend. 213 00:12:41,663 --> 00:12:46,300 Maria Stinger had a smile that could get anyone in trouble. 214 00:12:47,636 --> 00:12:50,070 - One of my favorite set of photos that bunny took 215 00:12:50,204 --> 00:12:52,607 of my grandmother was at Africa USA, 216 00:12:52,741 --> 00:12:57,579 which at the time in Miami was this safari theme park. 217 00:12:57,712 --> 00:13:00,247 (pleasant music) 218 00:13:00,381 --> 00:13:02,550 There's no fear in my grandmother's eyes. 219 00:13:02,684 --> 00:13:06,220 She looks gorgeous, they're having a wonderful time. 220 00:13:06,353 --> 00:13:08,122 Those were the first set of pictures 221 00:13:08,255 --> 00:13:10,958 that Bunny professionally sold. 222 00:13:11,091 --> 00:13:14,161 (pleasant music) 223 00:13:15,496 --> 00:13:18,332 - I did know Maria Stinger a little bit. 224 00:13:18,465 --> 00:13:21,068 I remember us going over to their house one time 225 00:13:21,201 --> 00:13:22,936 and me playing with her daughters. 226 00:13:23,070 --> 00:13:24,238 - [ASL Interpreter] I do remember meeting 227 00:13:24,371 --> 00:13:26,206 one of the models, Maria Stinger. 228 00:13:26,340 --> 00:13:28,876 I didn't know who she was at that time or what her name is, 229 00:13:29,009 --> 00:13:31,078 but she was always very good to me. 230 00:13:33,180 --> 00:13:36,216 - When I was in my early teens, I started to ask 231 00:13:36,350 --> 00:13:39,621 more questions about who my grandmother was. 232 00:13:39,754 --> 00:13:40,921 (upbeat music) 233 00:13:41,055 --> 00:13:43,090 My family was kind of almost afraid 234 00:13:43,223 --> 00:13:44,958 of what they would find if they dug too deeply 235 00:13:45,092 --> 00:13:47,161 into my grandmother's life and work. 236 00:13:48,395 --> 00:13:51,599 My grandmother was basically an exhibitionist. 237 00:13:53,601 --> 00:13:57,004 Bunny talks about how she didn't have a lot of women friends 238 00:13:57,137 --> 00:13:58,339 back in the day. 239 00:13:59,574 --> 00:14:02,109 She used to like to tease my grandmother and say, 240 00:14:02,242 --> 00:14:04,612 "Maria, just, you know, take off your shirt." 241 00:14:04,746 --> 00:14:07,014 "Come on, you know you want to." 242 00:14:08,550 --> 00:14:11,952 And then inevitably, she'd always take off her shirt. 243 00:14:13,755 --> 00:14:14,922 Really, it was this like fun, 244 00:14:15,055 --> 00:14:17,458 playful dynamic they had together. 245 00:14:17,592 --> 00:14:20,327 (upbeat music) 246 00:14:22,429 --> 00:14:25,299 (pleasant music) 247 00:14:26,634 --> 00:14:30,672 ♪ I saw the capercaillie play today ♪ 248 00:14:30,805 --> 00:14:33,374 - I think you can see how daring Bunny Yeager 249 00:14:33,508 --> 00:14:36,711 was as a photographer from her earliest days 250 00:14:36,845 --> 00:14:38,646 by the locations she was choosing. 251 00:14:38,780 --> 00:14:42,182 She would photograph models nude on the beach 252 00:14:42,316 --> 00:14:43,852 early in the morning. 253 00:14:43,984 --> 00:14:47,589 She would get access to amusement parks, like Playland. 254 00:14:47,722 --> 00:14:51,158 Her first published photograph was taken 255 00:14:51,291 --> 00:14:54,161 at a wild animal park. 256 00:14:54,294 --> 00:14:58,265 She would ask her friends for use of their mansions, 257 00:14:58,399 --> 00:15:01,034 and she would even film people nude 258 00:15:01,168 --> 00:15:04,037 in front of her Christmas tree. 259 00:15:06,340 --> 00:15:09,343 - As soon as Bunny started taking pictures, 260 00:15:09,476 --> 00:15:12,312 every magazine wanted to have her stuff in there. 261 00:15:14,081 --> 00:15:17,151 - Bunny gave cache to magazines. 262 00:15:17,284 --> 00:15:19,086 If you published Bunny Yeager photographs, 263 00:15:19,219 --> 00:15:20,755 not only were you getting great photos, 264 00:15:20,889 --> 00:15:24,391 you were also getting to say that you were getting photos 265 00:15:24,526 --> 00:15:27,961 by Bunny Yeager, the world's prettiest photographer. 266 00:15:29,531 --> 00:15:31,932 - She understood what the magazines wanted, 267 00:15:32,065 --> 00:15:33,568 and what was commercial. 268 00:15:35,837 --> 00:15:40,675 - [Sarahjane] She was able to take the fact that she was working 269 00:15:40,809 --> 00:15:43,745 both in front of and behind the camera, 270 00:15:43,878 --> 00:15:46,180 and turn that into a brand. 271 00:15:48,148 --> 00:15:51,586 - Not many people are on both sides of the camera, 272 00:15:51,719 --> 00:15:55,389 and Bunny was on both sides of the camera. 273 00:15:55,523 --> 00:15:57,291 - Smile, sparkle. 274 00:15:58,693 --> 00:15:59,594 Good. 275 00:16:00,427 --> 00:16:01,629 All right, let's try something 276 00:16:01,763 --> 00:16:03,297 with your arms around your head. 277 00:16:04,532 --> 00:16:07,167 - You're one of the world's foremost photographers 278 00:16:07,301 --> 00:16:09,671 of women, is this a good job? 279 00:16:09,804 --> 00:16:11,972 I'm not trying to play income tax man now, 280 00:16:12,105 --> 00:16:14,374 but do you make a good living out of it? 281 00:16:14,509 --> 00:16:16,644 - Well, I make a nice living, but the big thing 282 00:16:16,778 --> 00:16:19,747 about it for me is I'm married and I have two children. 283 00:16:19,881 --> 00:16:21,148 And I can make my own hours, 284 00:16:21,281 --> 00:16:24,184 and still indulge in having a career. 285 00:16:24,318 --> 00:16:25,452 ♪ In my life ♪ 286 00:16:25,587 --> 00:16:29,189 ♪ I met a beauty without bounds ♪ 287 00:16:29,323 --> 00:16:32,392 - Dad talked about it a lot, how special she was. 288 00:16:32,527 --> 00:16:34,261 I remember him always telling me, 289 00:16:34,394 --> 00:16:37,097 "Your mom's not like other moms, just being a housewife 290 00:16:37,231 --> 00:16:40,133 and sitting around eating Bonbons." 291 00:16:40,267 --> 00:16:43,638 "She's working, she's a photographer." 292 00:16:45,038 --> 00:16:49,009 - Bunny was the most famous female photographer in America. 293 00:16:49,844 --> 00:16:51,779 - Bunny Yeager, is that right? 294 00:16:51,913 --> 00:16:54,716 (audience applauding) 295 00:16:54,849 --> 00:16:56,183 Miss or Mrs Yeager? 296 00:16:56,316 --> 00:16:57,652 - Actually, it's Mrs. 297 00:16:57,785 --> 00:16:59,152 Mrs. Yeager, where are you from Mrs. Yeager? 298 00:16:59,286 --> 00:17:00,254 - Miami, Florida. 299 00:17:00,387 --> 00:17:02,055 - Miami, Florida. Lucky Florida. 300 00:17:02,189 --> 00:17:04,592 All right, panel, you all masked up? 301 00:17:05,827 --> 00:17:07,729 Let's have a look at everybody here and abouts, 302 00:17:07,862 --> 00:17:09,263 except those four good characters over there on the panel 303 00:17:09,396 --> 00:17:11,566 know exactly what your line is. 304 00:17:13,968 --> 00:17:16,303 (audience gasping) 305 00:17:16,436 --> 00:17:18,238 (audience applauding) 306 00:17:18,372 --> 00:17:21,576 - One of the factors that really influenced the shape 307 00:17:21,709 --> 00:17:24,913 of Bunny's career was how much of an outsider she was. 308 00:17:25,045 --> 00:17:28,650 - John, it's all too obvious. Mrs. Yeager is from Miami. 309 00:17:28,783 --> 00:17:31,451 She's not sunburned, she's a beautiful blonde. 310 00:17:31,586 --> 00:17:34,656 She's obviously a typical American school teacher. 311 00:17:34,789 --> 00:17:35,757 One down and nine to go. 312 00:17:35,890 --> 00:17:37,291 - She was an outsider 313 00:17:37,424 --> 00:17:38,726 because she was a self-taught photographer, 314 00:17:38,860 --> 00:17:40,528 she was an outsider because she was a woman. 315 00:17:40,662 --> 00:17:43,096 She was an outsider because she lived in Miami, 316 00:17:43,230 --> 00:17:46,000 which was not a center of publishing. 317 00:17:46,133 --> 00:17:48,636 - Mrs. Yeager, do you deal in services? 318 00:17:48,770 --> 00:17:50,337 - [Bunny] Yes, I do. 319 00:17:50,470 --> 00:17:52,006 - Mrs. Yeager once was on the other side of the camera, 320 00:17:52,139 --> 00:17:54,976 but for the last four years, she's been a photographer. 321 00:17:55,108 --> 00:17:56,109 - She was an original, 322 00:17:56,243 --> 00:17:59,179 and she epitomized in a sense 323 00:17:59,313 --> 00:18:04,151 what Miami Beach was in the '50s and '60s, 324 00:18:04,284 --> 00:18:09,023 booming, loose, devil may care, 325 00:18:09,156 --> 00:18:10,858 let it all happen. 326 00:18:10,992 --> 00:18:13,861 (pleasant music) 327 00:18:15,195 --> 00:18:18,032 I had just started radio and I was doing a morning show. 328 00:18:18,165 --> 00:18:21,035 And one day the general manager called me in and said, 329 00:18:21,168 --> 00:18:23,504 "The all night guy, Al Fox, is sick, 330 00:18:23,638 --> 00:18:25,205 would you sit in overnight?" 331 00:18:25,339 --> 00:18:26,774 - It's "The Witching Hour," 332 00:18:26,908 --> 00:18:29,577 Miami Beach's Midnight Flyer program, we're underway. 333 00:18:29,711 --> 00:18:32,179 - He says, "All you do is just play records and talk." 334 00:18:32,312 --> 00:18:34,247 - Miami Beach Midnight Flyer- 335 00:18:34,381 --> 00:18:36,283 This is not a Bunny Yeager story. 336 00:18:38,285 --> 00:18:40,021 But I'm alone in the station 337 00:18:40,153 --> 00:18:42,924 and about 3:00 a.m. the phone rings. 338 00:18:43,057 --> 00:18:46,060 (phone ringing) 339 00:18:46,193 --> 00:18:48,161 And I pick up the phone, "WAHR," 340 00:18:49,129 --> 00:18:51,766 and this voice, I can hear it now, 341 00:18:51,899 --> 00:18:54,836 said, "I want you." 342 00:18:54,969 --> 00:18:57,839 (pleasant music) 343 00:18:57,972 --> 00:19:00,407 I'm 22 years old, no woman has ever said, 344 00:19:00,541 --> 00:19:01,976 "I want you," to me. 345 00:19:02,110 --> 00:19:05,780 I suddenly realized there were other advantages 346 00:19:05,913 --> 00:19:07,280 to being on the radio. 347 00:19:08,082 --> 00:19:10,918 ♪ Really love me ♪ 348 00:19:11,786 --> 00:19:14,321 I said, "Well, I get off at six." 349 00:19:14,454 --> 00:19:18,425 She says, "No, I go to work at six, 350 00:19:19,527 --> 00:19:21,428 the only time is now." 351 00:19:21,562 --> 00:19:25,700 ♪ Did you ever really miss me ♪ 352 00:19:28,235 --> 00:19:30,571 So what the audience heard was, 353 00:19:31,973 --> 00:19:36,844 "Ladies and gentlemen, I have a real treat for you tonight." 354 00:19:37,979 --> 00:19:40,515 You're gonna hear the entire Harry Belafonte 355 00:19:40,648 --> 00:19:45,385 and Carnegie Hall album," which took 23 minutes, 356 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,454 which is all the time I needed. 357 00:19:48,589 --> 00:19:51,191 ♪ Down the way where the nights are gay ♪ 358 00:19:51,324 --> 00:19:52,760 ♪ And the sun shines ♪ 359 00:19:52,894 --> 00:19:56,196 - I put the record on, zoomed over to the house. 360 00:19:56,329 --> 00:19:58,066 I open up the door, there's this lady, 361 00:19:58,198 --> 00:20:02,503 I never saw her clear, white negligee sitting on the couch, 362 00:20:02,637 --> 00:20:05,573 opens her arms, I jump into her arms. 363 00:20:05,707 --> 00:20:08,208 My right cheek is against her right cheek, 364 00:20:08,341 --> 00:20:11,813 Belafonte is on the radio, and I hear 365 00:20:11,946 --> 00:20:14,015 ♪ Down the way where the knights ♪ 366 00:20:14,148 --> 00:20:15,083 ♪ Where the knights ♪ 367 00:20:15,215 --> 00:20:16,818 The record gets stuck. 368 00:20:18,820 --> 00:20:22,222 I place her back on the couch, go to my car, 369 00:20:22,355 --> 00:20:25,325 Jewish masochism, I leave the radio on. 370 00:20:27,995 --> 00:20:29,262 We enter the station, 371 00:20:29,396 --> 00:20:30,765 all the lights are ringing, the phones. 372 00:20:30,898 --> 00:20:33,901 I'm picking them up, I'm apologizing to people. 373 00:20:34,869 --> 00:20:37,605 I'm sweating, the last phone call 374 00:20:37,739 --> 00:20:41,743 was an older Jewish man and I said, "Hello." 375 00:20:41,876 --> 00:20:46,346 And he said, "Where the nights, where the nights." 376 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,717 "I'm going crazy with where the nights." 377 00:20:49,851 --> 00:20:55,288 So I said to him, "Why didn't you just change the station?" 378 00:20:56,591 --> 00:20:59,594 And he said, "I'm an invalid, and I'm in bed all night 379 00:20:59,727 --> 00:21:01,361 and a nurse takes care of me." 380 00:21:01,495 --> 00:21:03,931 "And when she leaves, she sets the radio 381 00:21:04,065 --> 00:21:07,568 on top of the wardrobe set to your station, 382 00:21:07,702 --> 00:21:09,837 I can't get up and change it." 383 00:21:10,972 --> 00:21:13,641 (pleasant music) 384 00:21:13,775 --> 00:21:17,578 I said, "I deeply apologize. Can I do anything for you?" 385 00:21:17,712 --> 00:21:19,714 He said, "Yeah, play Hava Nagila." 386 00:21:20,615 --> 00:21:22,250 (upbeat music) 387 00:21:22,382 --> 00:21:27,387 There was nothing like Miami Beach, nothing like it. 388 00:21:28,923 --> 00:21:31,324 It was hard in Miami, Miami Beach, 389 00:21:31,458 --> 00:21:34,095 to take anything really seriously. 390 00:21:34,228 --> 00:21:37,632 (pleasant jazz music) 391 00:21:40,935 --> 00:21:45,239 People got married, got divorced, nothing was forever. 392 00:21:45,372 --> 00:21:48,776 (pleasant jazz music) 393 00:21:49,644 --> 00:21:51,344 It was a loose, by a loose town, 394 00:21:51,478 --> 00:21:55,917 I mean it was a very sexually liberated city. 395 00:21:56,050 --> 00:21:59,419 (pleasant jazz music) 396 00:22:00,555 --> 00:22:03,624 - [Ed] Bunny Met Sammy Davis Jr. in 1955. 397 00:22:04,992 --> 00:22:07,628 Imagine, this is segregated Miami. 398 00:22:07,762 --> 00:22:10,097 Sammy couldn't even stay on Miami Beach 399 00:22:10,231 --> 00:22:12,399 past six o'clock at night. 400 00:22:13,835 --> 00:22:15,269 - Bunny tells this great story about 401 00:22:15,402 --> 00:22:18,471 how she picked Sammy up in the car and Sammy said, 402 00:22:18,606 --> 00:22:20,541 "I have to get in the back seat." 403 00:22:20,675 --> 00:22:23,244 I don't know if Bunny was naive at the time, 404 00:22:23,376 --> 00:22:24,879 but that was just absurd to her 405 00:22:25,012 --> 00:22:27,849 because Sammy was such a huge celebrity. 406 00:22:29,250 --> 00:22:31,652 He still wasn't comfortable riding in the front seat 407 00:22:31,786 --> 00:22:34,722 with a blonde white woman in Miami at the time. 408 00:22:36,557 --> 00:22:37,925 - He would go off during the day 409 00:22:38,059 --> 00:22:41,095 with Bunny and photograph models, 410 00:22:42,530 --> 00:22:45,398 both of them taking a risk at that time. 411 00:22:45,533 --> 00:22:46,734 - They would photograph pictures 412 00:22:46,868 --> 00:22:49,436 of my grandmother, Maria, together. 413 00:22:51,038 --> 00:22:53,641 - They hit it off and she gave him lessons 414 00:22:53,774 --> 00:22:56,443 on how to pose models. 415 00:22:58,179 --> 00:22:59,680 - [Carlos] They photographed together 416 00:22:59,814 --> 00:23:01,916 behind her favorite photo shooting place, 417 00:23:02,049 --> 00:23:05,553 which was the abandoned mansion of the Firestones, 418 00:23:05,686 --> 00:23:08,522 which is actually where the Fontainebleau is now. 419 00:23:08,656 --> 00:23:09,957 (pleasant music) 420 00:23:10,091 --> 00:23:12,860 - So there was a night that Bunny and Bud 421 00:23:12,994 --> 00:23:16,463 and Sammy Davis Jr. came over to my grandparents' house. 422 00:23:18,866 --> 00:23:21,269 It goes beyond just a couple of couples 423 00:23:21,401 --> 00:23:23,137 hanging out and having fun. 424 00:23:24,272 --> 00:23:27,141 (pleasant music) 425 00:23:33,281 --> 00:23:36,617 They all felt comfortable just hanging around, 426 00:23:36,751 --> 00:23:38,586 you know, my grandmother's nude. 427 00:23:38,719 --> 00:23:41,656 It's just like nobody cares. 428 00:23:42,623 --> 00:23:45,259 - Bunny was straight in that world. 429 00:23:45,393 --> 00:23:50,865 She very much embraced the notion that being a sexual woman 430 00:23:52,233 --> 00:23:55,903 gave you an entree into this highly sophisticated society. 431 00:23:56,436 --> 00:23:58,673 (pleasant music) 432 00:23:58,806 --> 00:24:01,575 - Bunny really kind of skirted two worlds. 433 00:24:01,709 --> 00:24:04,477 In fact, you look at some of her books from the 50s 434 00:24:04,612 --> 00:24:07,815 and she'll have the nice girl next door. 435 00:24:07,949 --> 00:24:10,284 And the next page, it'll be a burlesque performer 436 00:24:10,418 --> 00:24:14,622 that was over at Plus Pigalle on the beach. 437 00:24:14,755 --> 00:24:17,825 (pleasant music) 438 00:24:23,297 --> 00:24:26,434 - You know, I grew up in a farming town in Michigan. 439 00:24:26,567 --> 00:24:29,704 I'm a natural dishwater blonde, 440 00:24:29,837 --> 00:24:32,974 not very glamorous, kind of very ordinary looking, 441 00:24:33,107 --> 00:24:37,011 and I wanted to be the opposite of what I was. 442 00:24:37,144 --> 00:24:39,914 I wanted to be like a Hollywood movie star. 443 00:24:40,047 --> 00:24:43,884 18 years old, and went to a place in Anaheim, 444 00:24:45,286 --> 00:24:48,189 and walked into this little like blacked out windowed store 445 00:24:48,322 --> 00:24:52,159 and it was a fetish store, and it was just like filled with, 446 00:24:52,293 --> 00:24:54,061 you know, everything you could imagine. 447 00:24:54,195 --> 00:24:57,098 And obviously, a completely different world for me. 448 00:24:57,231 --> 00:24:58,699 (upbeat music) 449 00:24:58,833 --> 00:25:01,702 That's where I saw my first picture of Bettie Page. 450 00:25:02,503 --> 00:25:03,804 There wasn't really anybody 451 00:25:03,938 --> 00:25:06,240 that was trying to be the new Bettie Page, 452 00:25:06,374 --> 00:25:09,810 so that was kind of the thing that sparked my career. 453 00:25:12,313 --> 00:25:15,850 - That never ending appeal of Bettie Page is, 454 00:25:15,983 --> 00:25:20,187 how can someone be so sexy and so innocent at the same time? 455 00:25:20,321 --> 00:25:22,990 (pleasant music) 456 00:25:23,124 --> 00:25:26,727 ♪ I'm gonna take my time ♪ 457 00:25:26,861 --> 00:25:30,598 Bettie Page was a young woman in the 50s, 458 00:25:30,731 --> 00:25:32,933 who moved to New York with big aspirations 459 00:25:33,067 --> 00:25:35,202 of maybe being an actress or a model. 460 00:25:36,170 --> 00:25:38,672 And ended up being in camera clubs, 461 00:25:38,806 --> 00:25:40,474 which were these sort of private pervy clubs 462 00:25:40,608 --> 00:25:43,844 where men came to photograph for their photography classes. 463 00:25:43,978 --> 00:25:45,546 But, you know, it was women in their underwear 464 00:25:45,679 --> 00:25:47,548 in people's living rooms. 465 00:25:49,917 --> 00:25:52,319 Bettie was an underground hit. 466 00:25:53,487 --> 00:25:55,756 ♪ Take my chance to see you swim and dance ♪ 467 00:25:55,890 --> 00:25:59,126 ♪ Make a old man blush ♪ 468 00:25:59,260 --> 00:26:01,295 - The sorts of magazines that Bettie Page 469 00:26:01,429 --> 00:26:03,798 became famous with would be kind of covered 470 00:26:03,931 --> 00:26:06,434 in brown paper wrappers, sold behind the counter, 471 00:26:06,567 --> 00:26:10,938 and you theoretically had to be of a certain age to buy. 472 00:26:12,339 --> 00:26:15,443 I think some people are familiar with Bettie's pinup images, 473 00:26:15,576 --> 00:26:17,812 and then there's the bondage stuff 474 00:26:17,945 --> 00:26:19,514 from like the Claw Studios. 475 00:26:19,647 --> 00:26:23,284 But if you dig even deeper, it gets much racier than that. 476 00:26:24,351 --> 00:26:25,820 - It's so funny that what were considered 477 00:26:25,953 --> 00:26:27,288 some of the raciest images of the time, 478 00:26:27,421 --> 00:26:29,156 that you had to know a guy who knew a guy, 479 00:26:29,290 --> 00:26:31,092 and then you had to get in the mail in a brown envelope, 480 00:26:31,225 --> 00:26:34,462 were made by a group of people who in no way 481 00:26:34,595 --> 00:26:35,963 was this titillating to them. 482 00:26:36,097 --> 00:26:37,498 They didn't even really understand 483 00:26:37,631 --> 00:26:39,366 it on any sexuality level. 484 00:26:40,634 --> 00:26:43,170 This was business. There are guys who will pay money 485 00:26:43,304 --> 00:26:46,340 to get special boots made, and for women to just do 486 00:26:46,474 --> 00:26:48,642 something really specific, like dance around 487 00:26:48,776 --> 00:26:50,678 with this little stuffed clown. 488 00:26:50,811 --> 00:26:53,714 (upbeat music) 489 00:26:55,983 --> 00:26:59,620 - [Ed] Bettie came down in 1954 on a vacation. 490 00:27:01,689 --> 00:27:03,958 There was someone in New York that Bunny had worked with 491 00:27:04,091 --> 00:27:09,330 who told her about Bettie, and they connected that way. 492 00:27:09,864 --> 00:27:12,199 (pleasant music) 493 00:27:20,007 --> 00:27:21,275 (pleasant music continues) 494 00:27:21,408 --> 00:27:24,278 The first shoot she did was at a studio 495 00:27:24,411 --> 00:27:27,481 where she just had a ordinary backdrop. 496 00:27:27,616 --> 00:27:30,684 (pleasant music) 497 00:27:37,291 --> 00:27:40,427 The second shoot was at Africa USA. 498 00:27:40,562 --> 00:27:42,663 ♪ I declare sure enough ♪ 499 00:27:42,796 --> 00:27:45,933 ♪ I'm a hot mama ♪ 500 00:27:46,066 --> 00:27:48,969 ♪ I know about me ♪ 501 00:27:49,103 --> 00:27:50,704 - [Bettie] I tried to tell Bunny, I said, 502 00:27:50,838 --> 00:27:53,508 "Bunny, I've got circles under my eyes and I feel terrible." 503 00:27:53,642 --> 00:27:55,309 I said, "I don't feel like posing." 504 00:27:55,442 --> 00:27:58,379 She says, "Bettie, I had to pay money to Little Africa 505 00:27:58,513 --> 00:28:02,049 to use it this morning," she said, "We have to do it today." 506 00:28:03,150 --> 00:28:04,952 The most popular pictures ever taken of me 507 00:28:05,085 --> 00:28:07,855 wearing that leopard outfit, and you can see circles, 508 00:28:07,988 --> 00:28:09,823 deep circles under my eyes. 509 00:28:10,858 --> 00:28:12,527 ♪ Yeah I'm warning all you chicks ♪ 510 00:28:12,661 --> 00:28:15,729 - And those are the images she sent to Playboy. 511 00:28:17,198 --> 00:28:20,734 Playboy sent back a response saying, "We love these, 512 00:28:20,868 --> 00:28:24,772 but we only use indoor photographs for our centerfolds." 513 00:28:24,905 --> 00:28:26,974 "Can you shoot her indoors?" 514 00:28:27,107 --> 00:28:29,343 ♪ Hot mama ♪ 515 00:28:29,476 --> 00:28:31,546 And that's what she did, she went and she photographed her 516 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,048 with the Christmas tree and the Christmas hat. 517 00:28:34,181 --> 00:28:37,552 And that became the January 55 centerfold, 518 00:28:37,686 --> 00:28:39,386 and they both became famous. 519 00:28:40,788 --> 00:28:42,323 - [Bettie] I didn't know that Bunny Yeager was gonna send 520 00:28:42,456 --> 00:28:45,694 pictures to Mr. Hefner for "Playboy Magazine." 521 00:28:45,826 --> 00:28:48,663 I look like I've got a saggy, there's just one breast 522 00:28:48,796 --> 00:28:50,130 showing in the picture, you know? 523 00:28:50,264 --> 00:28:52,032 That little Santa Claus hat and I'm winking, 524 00:28:52,166 --> 00:28:55,537 with a little Christmas tree ball covering you know where. 525 00:28:55,670 --> 00:28:57,104 (gentle music) 526 00:28:57,238 --> 00:29:01,242 - Being in Playboy at that moment was kind of it, 527 00:29:01,375 --> 00:29:04,278 if you were the kind of model who took her clothes off. 528 00:29:04,411 --> 00:29:09,183 - Bettie Page would not have received the kind of accolades 529 00:29:09,316 --> 00:29:13,320 and star quality that stayed with her forever 530 00:29:13,454 --> 00:29:16,123 without appearing in the pages of Playboy. 531 00:29:16,257 --> 00:29:19,426 And, of course, Bunny made her a celebrity. 532 00:29:19,561 --> 00:29:22,429 (pleasant music) 533 00:29:26,568 --> 00:29:29,103 - The collaboration of Bettie Page and Bunny Yeager 534 00:29:29,236 --> 00:29:31,506 changed both of their lives. 535 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,876 Before working with Bunny Yeager, 536 00:29:36,010 --> 00:29:39,280 Bettie Page was considered a fetish model, 537 00:29:39,413 --> 00:29:44,852 it had very little to do with celebrating Bettie Page. 538 00:29:45,853 --> 00:29:47,855 Bunny Yeager celebrated Bettie Page. 539 00:29:49,189 --> 00:29:51,726 - My favorite pictures of Bettie are the ones of her 540 00:29:51,859 --> 00:29:54,094 surrounded by the lush foliage. 541 00:29:55,162 --> 00:29:57,131 It was always sort of like a playful 542 00:29:57,264 --> 00:29:59,900 sense of herself in those images. 543 00:30:01,001 --> 00:30:02,303 That's one of the things I loved about her, 544 00:30:02,436 --> 00:30:04,204 and I think that made her so memorable. 545 00:30:04,338 --> 00:30:07,007 Not the nudity aspect, but the fact that everything she did 546 00:30:07,141 --> 00:30:10,512 was sort of in a light, playful manner, 547 00:30:10,645 --> 00:30:12,681 and she made it all seem fun. 548 00:30:12,813 --> 00:30:15,883 (pleasant music) 549 00:30:18,285 --> 00:30:20,988 - For all of Bunny's photos, I find that there's a kind 550 00:30:21,121 --> 00:30:25,259 of joyousness to them, a celebratory quality. 551 00:30:26,393 --> 00:30:29,597 - That attitude in the 1950s was unthinkable, 552 00:30:29,731 --> 00:30:31,700 and approaching it with that kind of innocence 553 00:30:31,832 --> 00:30:33,834 is one of the common connections 554 00:30:33,967 --> 00:30:36,937 that Marilyn Monroe shares with Bettie Page. 555 00:30:37,071 --> 00:30:40,140 (pleasant music) 556 00:30:45,613 --> 00:30:48,516 - A flood tide of filth is engulfing our country 557 00:30:48,650 --> 00:30:51,586 in the form of newsstand obscenity. 558 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,089 - That is directly responsible for a substantial amount 559 00:30:55,222 --> 00:30:57,858 of juvenile delinquency and child crime. 560 00:30:57,991 --> 00:31:01,061 - This continues to increase for one reason, 561 00:31:01,195 --> 00:31:03,430 it is big business. 562 00:31:03,565 --> 00:31:04,932 (pleasant music) 563 00:31:05,065 --> 00:31:07,301 - You're really looking at a choice that women were making 564 00:31:07,434 --> 00:31:10,003 to get involved with pinup photography at the time. 565 00:31:10,137 --> 00:31:12,139 That was a lot more complicated than just, 566 00:31:12,272 --> 00:31:13,708 I'm willing to take my clothes off 567 00:31:13,842 --> 00:31:15,876 in front of a camera, yes or no. 568 00:31:16,009 --> 00:31:18,112 (pleasant music) 569 00:31:18,245 --> 00:31:23,518 Playboy was this magazine that, sure it was about sex, 570 00:31:24,853 --> 00:31:26,453 but it was also about jazz and it was about fashion, 571 00:31:26,588 --> 00:31:28,489 and it was about who you should think 572 00:31:28,623 --> 00:31:30,157 the cool new writers are. 573 00:31:30,290 --> 00:31:35,362 - The names of the writers that came to us as a result 574 00:31:36,430 --> 00:31:38,533 of their wanting to appear in our pages, 575 00:31:38,666 --> 00:31:41,001 there was no other magazine at the time 576 00:31:41,135 --> 00:31:43,237 with that kind of a mix. 577 00:31:44,304 --> 00:31:48,342 First issue came out in December of 1953, 578 00:31:48,475 --> 00:31:50,077 and we sold out. 579 00:31:51,044 --> 00:31:54,281 And then we proceeded to staff up. 580 00:31:55,517 --> 00:31:57,117 - And then we started purchasing from independent 581 00:31:57,251 --> 00:31:59,521 photographers before we began shooting our own, 582 00:31:59,654 --> 00:32:01,556 and it was how I became familiar with Bunny Yeager. 583 00:32:01,689 --> 00:32:04,158 And Bunny Yeager then became a regular contributor 584 00:32:04,291 --> 00:32:06,093 to Playboy and a good friend. 585 00:32:07,461 --> 00:32:10,230 - Bunny had a style of her own, and she really captured 586 00:32:10,364 --> 00:32:11,932 that girl next door quality. 587 00:32:12,065 --> 00:32:13,701 And that is one of the things 588 00:32:13,835 --> 00:32:16,036 that Hefner felt was so valuable. 589 00:32:16,170 --> 00:32:19,440 (upbeat jazz music) 590 00:32:22,276 --> 00:32:23,645 - [Diane] She was a little adventuresome, 591 00:32:23,778 --> 00:32:25,946 so she was the girl you could marry 592 00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:28,348 who would do fun stuff in the bedroom. 593 00:32:29,651 --> 00:32:32,620 It wasn't really an easy thing to accomplish back then, 594 00:32:32,754 --> 00:32:37,291 because we had strong moral restrictions in America. 595 00:32:38,626 --> 00:32:41,261 - [Narrator] Love seemed to be all that really mattered, 596 00:32:41,395 --> 00:32:42,963 but each of them knew deep down 597 00:32:43,096 --> 00:32:46,400 that they wanted their marriage vows to have real meaning. 598 00:32:46,534 --> 00:32:48,202 - [Diane] It was easy to get a bunch of strippers, 599 00:32:48,335 --> 00:32:51,405 it was very hard to get an ordinary secretary. 600 00:32:51,539 --> 00:32:54,742 The idea that a woman would want to be involved in it, 601 00:32:54,876 --> 00:32:57,912 would wanna produce material for it was perfect. 602 00:32:58,045 --> 00:32:59,413 It was something they could advertise, 603 00:32:59,547 --> 00:33:02,750 it was something that could bring in readers. 604 00:33:02,884 --> 00:33:05,352 - But the suggestion back then, 605 00:33:06,186 --> 00:33:07,689 that sex was simply a natural, 606 00:33:07,822 --> 00:33:12,192 normal part of life, was very revolutionary. 607 00:33:12,392 --> 00:33:14,762 - [Sarahjane] For however many faults he might have come 608 00:33:14,896 --> 00:33:19,667 to be associated with, Hugh Hefner was willing to take 609 00:33:19,801 --> 00:33:23,905 the input of a woman very seriously from the beginning 610 00:33:24,037 --> 00:33:26,541 in the voice and look of the magazine. 611 00:33:26,674 --> 00:33:30,712 Not only was she the first female photographer 612 00:33:30,845 --> 00:33:34,281 to shoot for Playboy, she was one of the first photographers 613 00:33:34,414 --> 00:33:36,183 to shoot for Playboy at all. 614 00:33:36,316 --> 00:33:39,219 - Hefner had a very special feeling for Bunny 615 00:33:40,622 --> 00:33:44,358 because she delivered and she delivered time and time again. 616 00:33:44,491 --> 00:33:48,930 The closest relationship he ever had to a photographer 617 00:33:49,062 --> 00:33:50,532 was with Bunny Yeager. 618 00:33:51,265 --> 00:33:53,467 (upbeat music) 619 00:33:53,601 --> 00:33:56,905 "Dear Bunny, I imagine you received our check 620 00:33:57,037 --> 00:33:59,507 for slightly over $1,000 621 00:33:59,641 --> 00:34:03,477 for your September feature, Bunny's Honeys." 622 00:34:04,879 --> 00:34:07,147 - [Sarahjane] Her involvement with the magazine went deeper 623 00:34:07,281 --> 00:34:10,484 than just the centerfolds she shot. 624 00:34:10,618 --> 00:34:12,921 She would also bring models to their attention, 625 00:34:13,053 --> 00:34:15,657 who maybe their centerfolds would end up being shot 626 00:34:15,790 --> 00:34:17,559 on site and not by her. 627 00:34:17,692 --> 00:34:20,929 She was very involved in promoting the Playboy Club 628 00:34:21,061 --> 00:34:23,130 when it came down to Miami. 629 00:34:24,464 --> 00:34:28,235 Bunny Yeager really helps define the look and voice 630 00:34:28,368 --> 00:34:31,940 of Playboy in the early 50s and in the mid 50s. 631 00:34:32,072 --> 00:34:34,809 (upbeat music) 632 00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:42,316 As magazines like Playboy made it more culturally acceptable 633 00:34:42,449 --> 00:34:44,519 to take off your clothes in front of the camera, 634 00:34:44,652 --> 00:34:48,556 women started trying to get that notoriety, you know? 635 00:34:48,690 --> 00:34:53,493 Get that ability to use that as a career stepping stone. 636 00:34:53,628 --> 00:34:57,665 - Here were people, these housewives, with no agency, 637 00:34:57,799 --> 00:35:02,235 with no creative expression, who were not really allowed 638 00:35:02,369 --> 00:35:04,539 to go out and have a career. 639 00:35:04,672 --> 00:35:06,473 People were putting them in front of the camera 640 00:35:06,608 --> 00:35:08,943 and saying, "You are special." 641 00:35:09,077 --> 00:35:13,180 - It was just something exciting for them to do, 642 00:35:13,313 --> 00:35:15,850 it was a form of Hollywood for them. 643 00:35:17,217 --> 00:35:19,419 - I talked to my dad about that when I was a teenager. 644 00:35:19,554 --> 00:35:22,222 I berated him for looking at the Playboys, 645 00:35:22,356 --> 00:35:24,025 and I said, why would you look at Playboys 646 00:35:24,157 --> 00:35:26,193 when you have mom here? 647 00:35:26,326 --> 00:35:28,228 And he says, well, I read the articles. 648 00:35:28,362 --> 00:35:30,565 And it's like, who are you kidding? 649 00:35:30,698 --> 00:35:33,568 (pleasant music) 650 00:35:36,136 --> 00:35:39,172 ♪ You come home ♪ 651 00:35:39,306 --> 00:35:44,579 ♪ You come into my home ♪ 652 00:35:45,713 --> 00:35:47,915 ♪ And there's there's nothing more child ♪ 653 00:35:48,049 --> 00:35:50,350 ♪ I can say when you ♪ 654 00:35:50,484 --> 00:35:52,120 - When she started working for Playboy, 655 00:35:52,252 --> 00:35:54,221 she was making really good money. 656 00:35:54,354 --> 00:35:57,424 I mean, for those years, really good money. 657 00:35:59,994 --> 00:36:03,698 - What we think we know about Hugh Hefner is he loved women, 658 00:36:03,831 --> 00:36:06,701 and he wanted to own and control women. 659 00:36:06,834 --> 00:36:10,738 - But I must tell you, frankly, that I am being taken 660 00:36:10,872 --> 00:36:13,708 advantage of in this association. 661 00:36:13,841 --> 00:36:19,312 And that it is becoming more and more a very one-sided deal, 662 00:36:20,447 --> 00:36:22,684 with Playboy getting the short end of the stick. 663 00:36:22,884 --> 00:36:25,787 - And what we think we know about Bunny Yeager 664 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,558 is she wanted more, and she needed more. 665 00:36:30,692 --> 00:36:33,761 - She told me that when she really felt that she'd made it 666 00:36:33,895 --> 00:36:35,797 was when she published her first book, 667 00:36:35,930 --> 00:36:38,833 "How to Photograph the Female Figure." 668 00:36:38,966 --> 00:36:42,369 That book sold close to 200,000 copies. 669 00:36:42,503 --> 00:36:44,539 (upbeat music) 670 00:36:44,672 --> 00:36:47,407 - Writing was definitely one of her passions. 671 00:36:47,542 --> 00:36:50,778 She, I think, published like 20 books in her lifetime. 672 00:36:52,146 --> 00:36:54,515 - [Announcer] From New York, "The Tonight Show," starring- 673 00:36:54,649 --> 00:36:57,852 - [Sarahjane] She had an incredible drive to be respected 674 00:36:57,985 --> 00:37:00,320 for how hard she worked and how good she was. 675 00:37:00,454 --> 00:37:01,756 - A photographer, Bunny Yeager. 676 00:37:01,889 --> 00:37:03,490 - [Anchor] We have a young lady with us 677 00:37:03,624 --> 00:37:04,926 who's made a reputation in this country 678 00:37:05,059 --> 00:37:08,395 as one of the fine photographers of gals. 679 00:37:09,496 --> 00:37:11,866 Would you welcome Miss Bunny Yeager? Bunny. 680 00:37:11,999 --> 00:37:13,634 (audience applauding) 681 00:37:13,768 --> 00:37:15,570 But now you photograph yourself also, don't you? 682 00:37:15,703 --> 00:37:18,405 - [Bunny] Oh yes, of course. Doesn't everyone? 683 00:37:18,539 --> 00:37:20,141 - [Anchor] Not that I know of, I mean, 684 00:37:20,273 --> 00:37:21,676 how do you know that you have the expression that you want? 685 00:37:21,809 --> 00:37:23,410 - [Bunny] Sometimes I use a mirror, 686 00:37:23,544 --> 00:37:24,812 I put a full length mirror right next to the camera 687 00:37:24,946 --> 00:37:26,614 and then I can see just what I want. 688 00:37:26,748 --> 00:37:28,916 Now that I'm more experienced, I don't need a mirror, 689 00:37:29,050 --> 00:37:30,618 I just know what I'm doing. 690 00:37:30,752 --> 00:37:32,285 - [Anchor] You take mostly glamour photography, don't you? 691 00:37:32,419 --> 00:37:33,154 I mean, would that be the correct terminology? 692 00:37:33,286 --> 00:37:34,287 - That's right. 693 00:37:36,157 --> 00:37:38,526 Facial expressions for glamour photography, 694 00:37:38,659 --> 00:37:40,260 amused, laughing, grinning, giggling, 695 00:37:40,393 --> 00:37:42,764 playful, animated, contented, tranquil, charming, seductive, 696 00:37:42,897 --> 00:37:44,932 sensual, surprised, serene, coy, wanting, 697 00:37:45,066 --> 00:37:47,668 interested, calm, provocative teasing, awe-inspiring, 698 00:37:47,802 --> 00:37:50,204 modest, flirty, alluring, wistful. 699 00:37:50,337 --> 00:37:51,939 You mean a good model can do that? 700 00:37:52,073 --> 00:37:53,608 - [Bunny] A good model has to do that. 701 00:37:53,741 --> 00:37:56,276 Anyone can smile, but how many people 702 00:37:56,409 --> 00:37:57,410 can do those expressions? 703 00:37:57,545 --> 00:37:59,180 - [Anchor] I really don't know. 704 00:37:59,312 --> 00:38:00,581 (audience laughing) 705 00:38:00,715 --> 00:38:02,617 - Bunny was always trying to look ahead 706 00:38:02,750 --> 00:38:06,721 and see, you know, where culture was going. 707 00:38:06,854 --> 00:38:08,890 (upbeat music) 708 00:38:09,023 --> 00:38:10,191 - [Ed] And, of course, at that time 709 00:38:10,323 --> 00:38:11,659 with the Supreme Court ruling 710 00:38:11,793 --> 00:38:14,494 about nudist films, everyone decided, 711 00:38:14,629 --> 00:38:16,831 I'm gonna do a nudist film. 712 00:38:16,964 --> 00:38:19,366 ♪ You come home ♪ 713 00:38:19,499 --> 00:38:21,702 People like Doris Wishman, 714 00:38:21,836 --> 00:38:24,138 she did, of course, "Nude on the Moon," 715 00:38:24,272 --> 00:38:27,440 which Bunny helped cast some of the models for that. 716 00:38:28,643 --> 00:38:31,579 (upbeat music) 717 00:38:36,184 --> 00:38:39,787 She loved being on film sets, she was an extra in many films 718 00:38:39,921 --> 00:38:42,523 just because she loved movies so much. 719 00:38:43,691 --> 00:38:44,859 - Will you take care of Mr. Norman? 720 00:38:44,992 --> 00:38:46,661 - Certainly, come on, Mr. Norman. 721 00:38:46,794 --> 00:38:48,062 - Oh boy, how are you? 722 00:38:48,196 --> 00:38:50,298 - And why don't you just call me Bunny? 723 00:38:50,430 --> 00:38:51,464 - Oh, I can. 724 00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:53,366 (upbeat music) 725 00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:57,805 - [Holly] My grandma took all of the white swimsuit photos 726 00:38:57,939 --> 00:38:59,807 of Ursula Andres on that set. 727 00:38:59,941 --> 00:39:02,810 They were used for the movie posters. 728 00:39:05,079 --> 00:39:07,815 - Bunny worked on a lot of movies in Florida. 729 00:39:07,949 --> 00:39:10,718 She helped write script, she did casting, 730 00:39:10,852 --> 00:39:13,453 she did production, she did acting. 731 00:39:14,922 --> 00:39:17,158 - Tom was still working with another model, 732 00:39:17,291 --> 00:39:20,862 and since we had time to spare, we paused to watch 733 00:39:20,995 --> 00:39:25,398 this willowy blonde in a series of calendar poses. 734 00:39:25,533 --> 00:39:28,603 (pleasant music) 735 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,141 - Bunny and her husband, they saw what was happening 736 00:39:34,275 --> 00:39:35,543 in the film business, 737 00:39:35,676 --> 00:39:37,578 that a lot of people were making money. 738 00:39:41,315 --> 00:39:44,484 So they decided they were gonna make some films. 739 00:39:44,619 --> 00:39:48,656 They made three films, "Orgy of Revenge," 740 00:39:48,789 --> 00:39:52,026 "Sextet," and "Room 11." 741 00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:55,963 These would've been x-rated films at that time, 742 00:39:56,097 --> 00:39:59,100 by today's standards probably R-rated films. 743 00:40:00,801 --> 00:40:03,838 Bunny and Bud did very well on the first movie, 744 00:40:03,971 --> 00:40:05,973 but they had issues with their distributor, 745 00:40:06,107 --> 00:40:08,175 so they never really recouped the money 746 00:40:08,309 --> 00:40:10,511 from the second two films. 747 00:40:10,645 --> 00:40:12,847 (upbeat music) 748 00:40:12,980 --> 00:40:15,716 - Well, my parents always talked about their work, 749 00:40:15,850 --> 00:40:19,186 so I knew from the get go that they were doing this. 750 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,056 Mom or dad actually asked me to draw the logo 751 00:40:22,189 --> 00:40:26,227 for one of the films, that was during my high school years. 752 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,131 Certainly not something I wanted anybody to know about. 753 00:40:31,464 --> 00:40:35,603 I often wonder what it was like to be in Bunny's home 754 00:40:35,736 --> 00:40:37,905 in the 50s and 60s. 755 00:40:39,472 --> 00:40:42,777 She both brought her work home, 756 00:40:42,910 --> 00:40:46,414 but also kept her home orbit, 757 00:40:46,547 --> 00:40:49,183 in a lot of ways, completely isolated. 758 00:40:49,317 --> 00:40:52,053 (upbeat music) 759 00:40:53,421 --> 00:40:57,457 She wanted it all, she wanted to have this picture perfect 760 00:40:57,591 --> 00:40:59,160 vision of herself as a wife and mother. 761 00:40:59,293 --> 00:41:04,031 And she also wanted to have this really daring, 762 00:41:04,165 --> 00:41:07,601 you know, career that nobody could have plotted for her. 763 00:41:08,736 --> 00:41:10,304 - She was always gonna be more cool than me. 764 00:41:10,438 --> 00:41:14,575 I remember when I was in seventh grade, she had this outfit 765 00:41:14,709 --> 00:41:16,877 where she had one of those little caps, 766 00:41:17,011 --> 00:41:21,215 brimmed caps that were popular at the time in the late 60s, 767 00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:23,517 a miniskirt, and go-go boots. 768 00:41:23,651 --> 00:41:26,087 Now, you can't compete with that. 769 00:41:26,220 --> 00:41:28,956 (upbeat music) 770 00:41:30,358 --> 00:41:32,159 - [ASL Interpreter] Definitely as an adult now, 771 00:41:32,293 --> 00:41:35,129 I can see that my life was very different than most people. 772 00:41:35,262 --> 00:41:37,431 But you have to remember that everything I see 773 00:41:37,565 --> 00:41:39,000 is through a deaf lens. 774 00:41:39,133 --> 00:41:40,968 I think it's different because I was a deaf kid, 775 00:41:41,102 --> 00:41:43,270 not because of who my mom was. 776 00:41:47,808 --> 00:41:51,746 My dad was Arthur Irwin, he was known as Bud. 777 00:41:53,114 --> 00:41:56,617 He was a police officer, and eventually became a detective. 778 00:41:57,985 --> 00:42:00,621 He did that for many, many years before he left the job 779 00:42:00,755 --> 00:42:02,056 to work with my mother. 780 00:42:02,189 --> 00:42:04,158 - I have to say that my parents didn't have 781 00:42:04,291 --> 00:42:05,993 a lot of personal friends, 782 00:42:06,127 --> 00:42:09,163 I feel like most of their friends were business associates. 783 00:42:09,296 --> 00:42:13,334 They were very much into each other. 784 00:42:13,467 --> 00:42:17,038 They were very close, they were each other's best friends. 785 00:42:17,838 --> 00:42:19,673 They were a big love story. 786 00:42:19,807 --> 00:42:21,842 (pleasant music) 787 00:42:21,976 --> 00:42:23,512 - [ASL Interpreter] Him and my mother 788 00:42:23,644 --> 00:42:25,713 always worked together, he eventually began helping her 789 00:42:25,846 --> 00:42:27,915 to get the equipment ready. 790 00:42:28,049 --> 00:42:32,019 He also served as protection for some of the models. 791 00:42:34,255 --> 00:42:36,557 - A police detective cannot support 792 00:42:36,690 --> 00:42:38,492 his family in Miami Shores. 793 00:42:38,626 --> 00:42:40,795 That's not the kind of people that live in Miami Shores, 794 00:42:40,928 --> 00:42:43,597 so it was mom's photo money that allowed us 795 00:42:43,731 --> 00:42:45,933 to live in such a nice neighborhood. 796 00:42:47,334 --> 00:42:49,770 I mean, it took time, she was always having ideas of things. 797 00:42:49,904 --> 00:42:51,939 She was very devoted to her work, 798 00:42:52,073 --> 00:42:56,343 and sometimes that left me feeling kinda left out. 799 00:42:56,477 --> 00:42:59,346 (pleasant music) 800 00:43:00,815 --> 00:43:03,384 - [Sarahjane] As the 60s go on, and she's working 801 00:43:03,518 --> 00:43:06,387 with models who have grown up in a culture 802 00:43:06,521 --> 00:43:08,989 that has a little bit more sexual liberation, 803 00:43:09,123 --> 00:43:11,492 there's a lot more daringness, 804 00:43:11,625 --> 00:43:15,062 a lot more untidiness, let's say. 805 00:43:16,063 --> 00:43:17,932 Instead of the Bouffant Beauties, 806 00:43:18,065 --> 00:43:20,034 who she worked with for a long time, 807 00:43:20,167 --> 00:43:23,137 you get these long-haired hippies, 808 00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:27,274 these really just natural beauties. 809 00:43:28,442 --> 00:43:32,113 - Into the late 60s and the early 70s, 810 00:43:32,246 --> 00:43:35,649 when suddenly they wanted to see genitals, 811 00:43:35,783 --> 00:43:37,685 it was a huge bar. 812 00:43:37,818 --> 00:43:41,922 Women did not feel proud of their pussies. 813 00:43:42,056 --> 00:43:44,024 They didn't have any ego about that. 814 00:43:44,158 --> 00:43:46,528 That was a part they didn't want people to look at, 815 00:43:46,660 --> 00:43:48,329 and it was a huge barrier. 816 00:43:48,462 --> 00:43:50,965 And it meant a complete change in the kind of women 817 00:43:51,098 --> 00:43:52,733 who would take their clothes off. 818 00:43:52,867 --> 00:43:55,870 (upbeat music) 819 00:44:00,407 --> 00:44:04,445 - I think that nudity, it's really a cyclical phenomenon. 820 00:44:04,579 --> 00:44:08,782 I think it comes, it gets very liberal and extreme, 821 00:44:08,916 --> 00:44:10,918 and it goes back, reacts the other way. 822 00:44:11,051 --> 00:44:13,721 And it just seems to be a cycle in entertainment. 823 00:44:13,854 --> 00:44:15,524 (pleasant music) 824 00:44:15,689 --> 00:44:19,226 - Being a figure in Miami put Bunny 825 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:24,798 in a really optimal position to get involved 826 00:44:25,900 --> 00:44:27,536 in the next wave of sexual expression. 827 00:44:27,668 --> 00:44:30,404 (upbeat music) 828 00:44:31,839 --> 00:44:33,274 - [Dian] When you get into the 70s, 829 00:44:33,407 --> 00:44:37,044 suddenly artistry just wasn't important anymore. 830 00:44:38,245 --> 00:44:40,114 - Nobody cared about pinup in the 70s, 831 00:44:40,247 --> 00:44:42,183 it was kinda like that was old fashioned. 832 00:44:42,316 --> 00:44:45,386 - Guccione, with Penthouse, introduced pubic hair. 833 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,254 Playboy waited about a year, 834 00:44:47,388 --> 00:44:50,124 and then they came out with pubic hair. 835 00:44:50,257 --> 00:44:52,993 (upbeat music) 836 00:44:57,398 --> 00:44:59,733 Then you got a guy named Larry Flint. 837 00:45:00,734 --> 00:45:03,572 He came out in 1976 with Hustler. 838 00:45:03,704 --> 00:45:06,440 (upbeat music) 839 00:45:07,542 --> 00:45:09,877 This was another revolution. 840 00:45:10,010 --> 00:45:12,279 - Was a market chef, Larry Flint 841 00:45:12,413 --> 00:45:15,316 and his enterprises and Penthouse Magazine. 842 00:45:15,449 --> 00:45:18,953 - All that was important was getting the genitals, 843 00:45:19,086 --> 00:45:21,355 get those genitals in your face. 844 00:45:21,488 --> 00:45:23,457 (upbeat music) 845 00:45:23,592 --> 00:45:26,393 - You know, that's just hardcore porn. 846 00:45:26,528 --> 00:45:29,463 You don't need a great photographer like Bunny to do that. 847 00:45:29,598 --> 00:45:33,834 - Bunny did try somewhat to adapt to the new market, 848 00:45:35,369 --> 00:45:37,104 but when they wouldn't accept her work, 849 00:45:37,238 --> 00:45:40,007 she wasn't willing to compromise. 850 00:45:41,108 --> 00:45:43,010 - She was struggling to still try to do 851 00:45:43,143 --> 00:45:45,946 the same kind of milder photography 852 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,282 that had made her success in the beginning 853 00:45:48,415 --> 00:45:50,084 without a real audience. 854 00:45:51,452 --> 00:45:55,122 - As pinup gets overshadowed by porn, 855 00:45:55,256 --> 00:45:57,258 Bunny really starts to pull back. 856 00:45:57,391 --> 00:46:00,160 There was a period where mom couldn't cross that line, 857 00:46:00,294 --> 00:46:02,196 because the photos were getting so trashy 858 00:46:02,329 --> 00:46:06,000 in the men's magazines, they were not at all respectful. 859 00:46:06,133 --> 00:46:08,369 - Then in the late 60s and early 70s, 860 00:46:08,502 --> 00:46:11,338 feminism was kind of born in that generation's incarnation. 861 00:46:11,472 --> 00:46:14,875 And it was extremely anti pornography and, 862 00:46:15,009 --> 00:46:16,777 by association, anti nudity. 863 00:46:16,910 --> 00:46:18,312 - The marchers' aim was clear, 864 00:46:18,445 --> 00:46:20,314 let's kill the $4 billion industry 865 00:46:20,447 --> 00:46:23,585 that exploits females and female bodies, young and old. 866 00:46:23,718 --> 00:46:25,052 It has nothing to do with sex, 867 00:46:25,185 --> 00:46:27,689 with love, with erotica, it is violence. 868 00:46:27,821 --> 00:46:32,459 And in most of the cases of rapists and child abusers 869 00:46:32,594 --> 00:46:35,396 who have been questioned, they have said very clearly 870 00:46:35,530 --> 00:46:36,997 that they were practicing 871 00:46:37,131 --> 00:46:40,200 what they had seen demonstrated in pornography. 872 00:46:41,101 --> 00:46:42,403 - [Cherilu] As I got older, 873 00:46:42,537 --> 00:46:45,472 I started to be more embarrassed about it. 874 00:46:45,607 --> 00:46:49,877 I didn't want my friends to know what mom did for a living. 875 00:46:50,010 --> 00:46:52,946 (gentle music) 876 00:46:56,150 --> 00:46:57,951 - [ASL Interpreter] I remember the first time 877 00:46:58,085 --> 00:47:01,021 that I ever felt strange about it was when my sister, 878 00:47:01,155 --> 00:47:05,292 Cherilu, began to feel embarrassed about it. 879 00:47:06,761 --> 00:47:09,229 She came to me telling me how she felt it was wrong, 880 00:47:09,363 --> 00:47:11,700 what mom was doing and that it was dirty, 881 00:47:11,832 --> 00:47:13,267 and I didn't agree with that. 882 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,436 - I feel like that should be something private, 883 00:47:15,570 --> 00:47:19,607 that kind of exposure, not just for anybody to see. 884 00:47:20,441 --> 00:47:23,143 (gentle music) 885 00:47:24,244 --> 00:47:26,213 - [Ed] The 70s were really tough for her. 886 00:47:28,248 --> 00:47:32,119 She had to come up with some alternative income. 887 00:47:33,420 --> 00:47:38,192 - A police officer approached her to do a job for him, 888 00:47:38,325 --> 00:47:42,096 and it was of a picture of a man and woman together. 889 00:47:42,229 --> 00:47:43,497 And that was the kind of picture 890 00:47:43,631 --> 00:47:45,834 that she hadn't done up to that point. 891 00:47:45,966 --> 00:47:49,970 - In the mid 70s, Bunny Yeager was charged with obscenity 892 00:47:50,104 --> 00:47:53,040 for shooting sexual content. 893 00:47:53,173 --> 00:47:55,943 (pleasant music) 894 00:47:56,076 --> 00:48:01,348 A woman, an outspoken, pushy, famous woman 895 00:48:02,349 --> 00:48:04,918 is the easiest target to bring down. 896 00:48:06,788 --> 00:48:09,022 - It was a ridiculous charge. 897 00:48:09,156 --> 00:48:12,794 They believed that it was retribution for Bud's work 898 00:48:12,926 --> 00:48:14,094 with the police department, 899 00:48:14,228 --> 00:48:16,397 'cause he was in internal affairs. 900 00:48:17,665 --> 00:48:19,099 - [ASL Interpreter] My mom said, "If I'm guilty, 901 00:48:19,233 --> 00:48:21,135 I will be going to jail for 15 years." 902 00:48:22,871 --> 00:48:27,007 - Her lawyer went down to the courthouse lobby 903 00:48:27,141 --> 00:48:29,343 and picked up a men's magazine 904 00:48:29,476 --> 00:48:31,579 and brought it to the courtroom and said, 905 00:48:31,713 --> 00:48:34,448 "Look, this is what's for sale down in your lobby, 906 00:48:34,582 --> 00:48:38,318 and she's being charged with this same kind of thing." 907 00:48:39,186 --> 00:48:41,556 And so, the case was dismissed. 908 00:48:41,689 --> 00:48:44,425 (upbeat music) 909 00:48:52,232 --> 00:48:56,036 (upbeat music continues) 910 00:48:58,338 --> 00:49:00,742 - I don't wanna speak for her family 911 00:49:00,875 --> 00:49:05,479 to the devastating consequences that had on them. 912 00:49:07,347 --> 00:49:10,050 - [ASL Interpreter] I had come home for spring break. 913 00:49:11,018 --> 00:49:13,655 I was so excited to jump in the swimming pool at home, 914 00:49:13,788 --> 00:49:15,690 I missed it so much. 915 00:49:15,824 --> 00:49:17,958 And as soon as I got in, I looked and the pool 916 00:49:18,091 --> 00:49:22,129 was untaken care of, the water was green, it was disgusting. 917 00:49:22,262 --> 00:49:23,464 And I ran back in the house, 918 00:49:23,598 --> 00:49:25,065 like, "What's wrong with the pool?" 919 00:49:25,199 --> 00:49:26,967 "I was looking so forward to swimming." 920 00:49:27,100 --> 00:49:28,068 They said, "We don't have the money 921 00:49:28,202 --> 00:49:30,137 to have the pool cleaned." 922 00:49:30,270 --> 00:49:33,207 (gentle music) 923 00:49:34,475 --> 00:49:37,679 - There was some embarrassment over that arrest. 924 00:49:37,812 --> 00:49:42,216 My dad was becoming an alcoholic, he was depressed. 925 00:49:42,349 --> 00:49:46,053 - [Ed] Bud really blamed himself for Bunny being charged. 926 00:49:47,287 --> 00:49:49,356 - [Cherilu] It just sent him into some depression. 927 00:49:50,959 --> 00:49:54,596 Dad tried to take his life, he took pills. 928 00:49:55,697 --> 00:49:59,032 Mom found him and called for the ambulance. 929 00:49:59,166 --> 00:50:01,502 They pumped his stomach and he survived. 930 00:50:06,306 --> 00:50:07,575 My husband and I got married, 931 00:50:07,709 --> 00:50:10,745 and two weeks later I got a telegram. 932 00:50:10,879 --> 00:50:13,615 (gentle music) 933 00:50:17,251 --> 00:50:19,353 He took his life using a gun. 934 00:50:22,456 --> 00:50:25,727 He was in the front seat of one of the cars, 935 00:50:25,860 --> 00:50:29,129 and mom and Lisa found him the next morning. 936 00:50:30,063 --> 00:50:33,233 (gentle music) 937 00:50:33,367 --> 00:50:34,368 - [ASL Interpreter] I had gotten up very early 938 00:50:34,501 --> 00:50:36,470 in the morning on a Saturday. 939 00:50:39,306 --> 00:50:40,775 And my mom was in the same clothes 940 00:50:40,909 --> 00:50:43,511 that she was wearing from the previous day. 941 00:50:44,746 --> 00:50:46,079 And I went over to mom, I'm like, "What's wrong?" 942 00:50:46,213 --> 00:50:47,749 "What are you doing here?" 943 00:50:48,783 --> 00:50:50,183 She's like, "I'm just sitting here, 944 00:50:50,317 --> 00:50:52,286 waiting for your father to come back." 945 00:50:55,557 --> 00:50:57,559 And I told her, "I'm gonna go ahead and take a shower, 946 00:50:57,692 --> 00:51:01,228 and get ready before I call 911." 947 00:51:02,764 --> 00:51:04,264 And when I came outta the shower, my mom said, 948 00:51:04,398 --> 00:51:08,068 "I found your father's body in his car." 949 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,340 I was dumbfounded. 950 00:51:13,975 --> 00:51:16,711 (gentle music) 951 00:51:20,982 --> 00:51:24,084 - [Cherilu] Well, I mean, we were all just devastated. 952 00:51:24,217 --> 00:51:27,154 (gentle music) 953 00:51:34,328 --> 00:51:38,098 (gentle music continues) 954 00:51:38,231 --> 00:51:39,667 It was a very tough time, 955 00:51:39,801 --> 00:51:42,637 it really deeply wounded all of us that were left. 956 00:51:42,770 --> 00:51:45,640 (pleasant music) 957 00:51:47,542 --> 00:51:51,445 When my kids were growing up, we moved to Ohio. 958 00:51:51,579 --> 00:51:53,380 I was kind of glad for the separation, 959 00:51:53,514 --> 00:51:56,784 because I didn't want the kids to love the photos. 960 00:51:57,919 --> 00:51:59,119 - [ASL Interpreter] It was a really hard time 961 00:51:59,252 --> 00:52:00,888 economically in our household. 962 00:52:02,690 --> 00:52:05,893 - After Bunny pulls back from pinup photography, 963 00:52:06,027 --> 00:52:09,396 she starts to focus on other aspects of her work. 964 00:52:10,497 --> 00:52:14,134 She does a lot of headshot photographing, 965 00:52:14,267 --> 00:52:16,370 she does commercial photographing. 966 00:52:16,504 --> 00:52:20,875 She teaches classes, puts herself out there, 967 00:52:21,009 --> 00:52:23,310 taking bit parts in TV shows, 968 00:52:23,443 --> 00:52:25,913 does boudoir photography. 969 00:52:26,047 --> 00:52:27,849 (pleasant music) 970 00:52:27,982 --> 00:52:30,952 - She started performing, she had a singing act, 971 00:52:31,085 --> 00:52:32,486 a nightclub act. 972 00:52:32,620 --> 00:52:33,955 - [Cherilu] She had a beautiful voice, 973 00:52:34,088 --> 00:52:36,189 she could have done that as her profession. 974 00:52:37,257 --> 00:52:39,594 ♪ Pack up all my care and whoa ♪ 975 00:52:39,727 --> 00:52:41,696 ♪ Here I go swinging low ♪ 976 00:52:41,829 --> 00:52:46,366 - She has a second act that's wildly different 977 00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:49,971 than her heyday as a photographer, 978 00:52:50,104 --> 00:52:53,041 and she scrambles to make a living. 979 00:52:53,173 --> 00:52:55,475 ♪ Bye bye ♪ 980 00:52:55,610 --> 00:52:56,878 ♪ Blackbird ♪ 981 00:52:57,011 --> 00:52:58,412 - I had a hard time understanding mom, 982 00:52:58,546 --> 00:53:01,983 because she would do things 983 00:53:02,116 --> 00:53:06,319 that she was not qualified to do, so to speak, officially. 984 00:53:06,453 --> 00:53:08,956 Like, she wrote a diet book. 985 00:53:09,090 --> 00:53:11,458 Well, mom's not a dietician. 986 00:53:12,860 --> 00:53:15,295 Now, she did have a lot of experience dieting as a model. 987 00:53:15,429 --> 00:53:18,365 (upbeat music) 988 00:53:20,802 --> 00:53:22,436 - [ASL Interpreter] After my sister's wedding, 989 00:53:22,570 --> 00:53:25,305 mom and I lived alone for probably about a year, 990 00:53:25,439 --> 00:53:26,941 it was just the two of us. 991 00:53:28,341 --> 00:53:31,546 Unfortunately, me and my mom began to have a lot of conflict 992 00:53:31,679 --> 00:53:33,981 at that time, because this is when I had learned 993 00:53:34,115 --> 00:53:36,150 that so much of my life had been kept from me 994 00:53:36,283 --> 00:53:37,819 because they couldn't sign. 995 00:53:37,952 --> 00:53:39,754 And I was starting to feel very resentful at this time 996 00:53:39,887 --> 00:53:42,623 in my life, and I had met my first husband at this time, 997 00:53:42,757 --> 00:53:44,926 and we got married and left. 998 00:53:45,059 --> 00:53:47,862 (pleasant music) 999 00:53:47,995 --> 00:53:52,800 - Think about how hard it is to have been 1000 00:53:52,934 --> 00:53:56,137 somebody who's considered very elite, 1001 00:53:56,269 --> 00:54:00,208 and become somebody who is really 1002 00:54:00,340 --> 00:54:02,844 scrambling for economic crumbs. 1003 00:54:02,977 --> 00:54:05,713 (upbeat music) 1004 00:54:13,988 --> 00:54:16,323 - [ASL Interpreter] Then we kinda lost track of her, 1005 00:54:16,456 --> 00:54:19,560 she took no pictures from 80s to 90s. 1006 00:54:20,828 --> 00:54:24,031 She was working in newspaper, graphic print design. 1007 00:54:24,165 --> 00:54:27,835 She was selling different pieces to magazines 1008 00:54:27,969 --> 00:54:30,905 for about 10 years, and then she stopped doing that. 1009 00:54:33,574 --> 00:54:37,745 But there was no profit, the money was terrible. 1010 00:54:37,879 --> 00:54:40,181 (gentle music) 1011 00:54:40,313 --> 00:54:41,883 The office was completely closed. 1012 00:54:42,016 --> 00:54:44,752 Everything from the office had been brought into our home, 1013 00:54:44,886 --> 00:54:47,989 and our house just held everything all the time. 1014 00:54:48,122 --> 00:54:52,260 - There was a fire, and she lost a lot of her negatives. 1015 00:54:52,392 --> 00:54:54,562 She just felt so deflated. 1016 00:54:54,695 --> 00:54:55,963 She didn't have a chance 1017 00:54:56,097 --> 00:54:58,933 to get back up in a sense for herself. 1018 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,035 (upbeat music) 1019 00:55:01,169 --> 00:55:02,937 - In the early 90s, most of the people that I knew 1020 00:55:03,070 --> 00:55:07,407 that collected pinup art, they were fans of the Rocketeer. 1021 00:55:07,542 --> 00:55:10,578 They knew about the Bettie Pages, and all these like obscure 1022 00:55:10,711 --> 00:55:13,714 little zines where they could see pictures of Bettie. 1023 00:55:14,816 --> 00:55:17,118 - People rediscovered Bettie in the 1990s, 1024 00:55:17,251 --> 00:55:22,723 Bettie became this icon of early female sexuality. 1025 00:55:23,691 --> 00:55:26,594 (upbeat music) 1026 00:55:30,665 --> 00:55:31,866 - [Guinevere] To me, it was this kind of cipher 1027 00:55:31,999 --> 00:55:34,535 where people projected things onto her, 1028 00:55:34,669 --> 00:55:36,637 people thought she was a rebel. 1029 00:55:36,771 --> 00:55:39,874 People thought she was this SM goddess. 1030 00:55:40,942 --> 00:55:43,410 A generation of 90s rockabilly girls 1031 00:55:43,544 --> 00:55:45,847 thought she was the style icon. 1032 00:55:46,981 --> 00:55:49,016 And the number of women I saw in the 90s 1033 00:55:49,150 --> 00:55:53,921 with Bettie Page bangs, but like neck tattoos, is a lot. 1034 00:55:55,189 --> 00:55:57,024 - I think the young people are embracing, again, 1035 00:55:57,158 --> 00:55:59,994 a kind of a retro cool from the latter 50s 1036 00:56:00,127 --> 00:56:01,562 and the 60s and 70s. 1037 00:56:01,696 --> 00:56:05,299 In that context, Bettie Page is truly iconic. 1038 00:56:05,432 --> 00:56:07,001 (upbeat music) 1039 00:56:07,134 --> 00:56:10,504 - Bunny really leans into trying to get involved 1040 00:56:10,638 --> 00:56:13,774 in the culture that surrounds Bettie Page. 1041 00:56:13,908 --> 00:56:15,076 - [ASL Interpreter] And that's when she started trying 1042 00:56:15,209 --> 00:56:17,311 to sell some work on eBay, 1043 00:56:17,444 --> 00:56:19,547 lithoprints and that type of stuff. 1044 00:56:21,315 --> 00:56:23,918 - People who in the past, if they had wanted, you know, 1045 00:56:24,051 --> 00:56:26,654 a signed lithograph of Bettie Page, 1046 00:56:26,787 --> 00:56:29,023 would've had to write her with a self-addressed, 1047 00:56:29,156 --> 00:56:34,629 stamped envelope, can now go on eBay and just buy it. 1048 00:56:35,395 --> 00:56:38,398 (upbeat music) 1049 00:56:43,604 --> 00:56:46,507 - [ASL Interpreter] After my mom did that work 1050 00:56:46,641 --> 00:56:48,843 of Bettie Page, it seemed like they lost touch 1051 00:56:48,976 --> 00:56:51,812 for a very, very long time. 1052 00:56:51,946 --> 00:56:53,581 And that was when mom finally found out 1053 00:56:53,714 --> 00:56:56,751 that she had been put into a psychiatric hospital, 1054 00:56:56,884 --> 00:56:58,853 and was unable to be reached. 1055 00:56:59,820 --> 00:57:01,454 - [Bunny] Well, hi there, Bettie. 1056 00:57:02,690 --> 00:57:04,759 First, I want to- - [Bettie] Long time no see. 1057 00:57:04,892 --> 00:57:06,661 - [Bunny] When I've been interviewed, they always ask 1058 00:57:06,794 --> 00:57:09,964 who I thought was the best model I ever worked with, 1059 00:57:10,097 --> 00:57:13,367 and I've always had to answer Bettie Page because, you know, 1060 00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:16,570 you had a face that I believe was perfect in every way. 1061 00:57:16,704 --> 00:57:18,072 And your body was the kind 1062 00:57:18,205 --> 00:57:20,141 that looked natural when you were nude, 1063 00:57:20,274 --> 00:57:21,976 instead of appearing naked. 1064 00:57:23,210 --> 00:57:24,946 I think your biggest asset was your enthusiasm 1065 00:57:25,079 --> 00:57:27,615 and your creative facial expressions 1066 00:57:27,748 --> 00:57:30,718 that made you better than any other model. 1067 00:57:32,119 --> 00:57:36,624 - [Bettie] I think it was also, and because I liked posing. 1068 00:57:37,325 --> 00:57:38,693 I liked the modeling. 1069 00:57:38,826 --> 00:57:41,796 I can make in two hours more than I would make 1070 00:57:41,929 --> 00:57:46,499 40 hours a week doing secretary work eight hours a day. 1071 00:57:46,634 --> 00:57:48,501 (upbeat music) 1072 00:57:48,636 --> 00:57:51,572 - It's very rare when you find an artist 1073 00:57:51,706 --> 00:57:53,007 and you look at their work, 1074 00:57:53,140 --> 00:57:56,711 and it literally defines an epoch and a time 1075 00:57:56,844 --> 00:57:58,779 because they capture the form 1076 00:57:58,913 --> 00:58:01,449 and the shape of that moment. 1077 00:58:01,582 --> 00:58:04,719 (pleasant music) 1078 00:58:12,460 --> 00:58:17,198 - [Larry] She captured the essence of what the bikini 1079 00:58:17,331 --> 00:58:18,966 and the girl go together. 1080 00:58:20,201 --> 00:58:22,003 (pleasant music) 1081 00:58:22,136 --> 00:58:24,305 - [Sarahjane] It's this major contribution to style 1082 00:58:24,438 --> 00:58:26,607 and popular culture, the bikini, 1083 00:58:26,741 --> 00:58:29,176 and nobody knows that it was Bunny. 1084 00:58:33,481 --> 00:58:36,751 - There's a famous photo of her that we've had in galleries 1085 00:58:36,884 --> 00:58:40,187 that is her in a daisy bikini that she made 1086 00:58:40,321 --> 00:58:43,858 by putting daisies together, fake daisies. 1087 00:58:43,991 --> 00:58:46,060 And so she had a similar swimsuit, 1088 00:58:46,193 --> 00:58:49,530 not the iconic one, but made out of flowers. 1089 00:58:49,663 --> 00:58:51,899 And when I was 14, she asked me, 1090 00:58:52,033 --> 00:58:53,801 "Well, what do you think, Holly, would happen 1091 00:58:53,934 --> 00:58:55,703 if you put this on?" 1092 00:58:57,071 --> 00:58:59,774 And I was horrified, I looked at her and I said, 1093 00:58:59,907 --> 00:59:01,475 "I think my mom would kill you, 1094 00:59:01,609 --> 00:59:03,644 that's what I think would happen." 1095 00:59:03,778 --> 00:59:06,847 (pleasant music) 1096 00:59:07,481 --> 00:59:10,217 (gentle music) 1097 00:59:14,889 --> 00:59:16,891 - [Dian] One of the great things about the passage of time 1098 00:59:17,024 --> 00:59:20,261 is that it will take the veneer of filth 1099 00:59:20,394 --> 00:59:23,564 off of nude material and turn it into art. 1100 00:59:24,765 --> 00:59:27,835 (pleasant music) 1101 00:59:35,342 --> 00:59:39,046 (pleasant music continues) 1102 00:59:39,180 --> 00:59:41,816 - There were two main reasons that we decided 1103 00:59:41,949 --> 00:59:46,220 to do Bunny Yeager's first ever institutional show 1104 00:59:46,353 --> 00:59:48,089 at the Andy Warhol Museum. 1105 00:59:49,356 --> 00:59:51,792 Seeing her work and thinking, of course, 1106 00:59:51,926 --> 00:59:54,695 about Cindy Sherman, and Yasumasa Morimura, 1107 00:59:54,829 --> 00:59:57,566 and many photographers who do self-portraiture, 1108 00:59:57,698 --> 00:59:59,934 utilizing disguise and masquerade. 1109 01:00:00,067 --> 01:00:03,404 I realized that Bunny had beat them to the punch 1110 01:00:03,538 --> 01:00:05,873 by at least 15 years. 1111 01:00:07,241 --> 01:00:10,344 I wanted to make sure that not only did I get to know more 1112 01:00:10,478 --> 01:00:12,680 about her work, her motivations, 1113 01:00:12,813 --> 01:00:16,417 but how she should be woven 1114 01:00:16,551 --> 01:00:18,919 into the narrative of art history, because I realized 1115 01:00:19,053 --> 01:00:21,655 pretty quickly that she deserved to be. 1116 01:00:21,789 --> 01:00:24,258 (gentle music) 1117 01:00:24,391 --> 01:00:27,394 Many curators, and those in the museum profession 1118 01:00:27,529 --> 01:00:30,931 would not have viewed pinup photography as relevant 1119 01:00:31,065 --> 01:00:35,402 to the lineage of art history until quite recently. 1120 01:00:36,571 --> 01:00:38,239 Feminism in its first, second, and third waves 1121 01:00:38,372 --> 01:00:41,909 within the academy allowed that door 1122 01:00:42,042 --> 01:00:44,478 to open ever so gradually. 1123 01:00:44,613 --> 01:00:48,415 But it took until 2010, when we did that exhibition, 1124 01:00:48,550 --> 01:00:50,718 for it to be fully open. 1125 01:00:52,353 --> 01:00:55,890 I'll never forget that one of the first conversations 1126 01:00:56,023 --> 01:00:58,893 we had, I told her, "We're so thrilled 1127 01:00:59,026 --> 01:01:01,328 to be showing your work at the Warhol Museum." 1128 01:01:01,462 --> 01:01:02,763 And she immediately said, 1129 01:01:02,897 --> 01:01:04,999 "How much are you going to sell them for?" 1130 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,502 And I said, "Well, Bunny, we're actually not selling them." 1131 01:01:08,637 --> 01:01:11,405 And she said, "Well then why are we doing this?" 1132 01:01:12,907 --> 01:01:15,976 - Well, I often tell the story about Diane Arbus. 1133 01:01:16,110 --> 01:01:20,080 She called Bunny the world's greatest pinup photographer. 1134 01:01:20,214 --> 01:01:23,951 She came to Miami intent on meeting Bunny and called her, 1135 01:01:24,084 --> 01:01:26,621 and Bunny said, "I've never heard of you," 1136 01:01:26,754 --> 01:01:28,756 and Bunny refused to meet her. 1137 01:01:28,889 --> 01:01:31,759 And this was the leading female photographer 1138 01:01:31,892 --> 01:01:33,861 on the New York scene at the time. 1139 01:01:35,329 --> 01:01:38,432 She didn't even really understand the significance of that. 1140 01:01:38,567 --> 01:01:40,935 - I don't think she really thought so much about 1141 01:01:41,068 --> 01:01:43,103 whether she was making art or not. 1142 01:01:43,237 --> 01:01:47,542 Bunny really did self-portraits all the time. 1143 01:01:47,676 --> 01:01:51,445 She was fearless like that, it showed her courage. 1144 01:01:52,614 --> 01:01:54,516 And it's what first got me interested, I said, 1145 01:01:54,649 --> 01:01:57,652 "Oh, I wanna meet this lady who's taking pictures 1146 01:01:57,785 --> 01:01:59,654 that looks like this." 1147 01:01:59,787 --> 01:02:02,356 - She gets a museum exhibition, 1148 01:02:02,489 --> 01:02:06,427 she gets picked up by an art gallery. 1149 01:02:07,529 --> 01:02:09,930 People start to look at her photographs 1150 01:02:10,064 --> 01:02:14,468 as part of the story of photographic history. 1151 01:02:14,603 --> 01:02:16,136 - [ASL Interpreter] I found out that a gallery 1152 01:02:16,270 --> 01:02:19,708 was trying to get her to show some of her work, 1153 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,276 and we were just completely shocked by it. 1154 01:02:22,409 --> 01:02:24,579 I mean, not because we didn't think she deserved it, 1155 01:02:24,713 --> 01:02:26,981 she did, she was an amazing artist. 1156 01:02:27,114 --> 01:02:30,217 But they started to show an extreme interest in her. 1157 01:02:30,351 --> 01:02:31,885 And from there, it only spread. 1158 01:02:32,019 --> 01:02:34,388 The calls didn't stop coming from galleries. 1159 01:02:34,522 --> 01:02:37,324 (upbeat music) 1160 01:02:42,396 --> 01:02:44,031 - [ASL Interpreter] And I remember going out one day 1161 01:02:44,164 --> 01:02:46,500 and there was just, the place was full of cars 1162 01:02:46,635 --> 01:02:49,169 Everybody was outside drinking and smoking, 1163 01:02:49,303 --> 01:02:51,305 it was like a party again. 1164 01:02:51,438 --> 01:02:54,308 (pleasant music) 1165 01:03:01,982 --> 01:03:03,851 (pleasant music continues) 1166 01:03:03,984 --> 01:03:05,286 - [Carlos] Paz De La Huerta 1167 01:03:05,419 --> 01:03:07,187 always wanted to be photographed by Bunny. 1168 01:03:08,989 --> 01:03:12,393 Bunny photographed in our house, in El Portal, 1169 01:03:12,527 --> 01:03:15,496 literally blocks away from her house. 1170 01:03:15,630 --> 01:03:18,499 (pleasant music) 1171 01:03:19,634 --> 01:03:21,536 - She was an accomplished photographer, 1172 01:03:21,670 --> 01:03:25,339 she was a successful photographer, but she was also a model. 1173 01:03:26,608 --> 01:03:28,309 - [Carlos] When I photographed her in our studio, 1174 01:03:28,442 --> 01:03:31,211 Bunny went back to her modeling years. 1175 01:03:32,514 --> 01:03:34,716 There she was, having another chance at all the things 1176 01:03:34,848 --> 01:03:38,986 that she loved, it was like everything aligned for her. 1177 01:03:40,655 --> 01:03:43,525 (pleasant music) 1178 01:03:51,265 --> 01:03:55,169 (pleasant music continues) 1179 01:03:56,470 --> 01:04:00,575 - She still used a film camera till the day she died. 1180 01:04:00,709 --> 01:04:03,578 (pleasant music) 1181 01:04:10,284 --> 01:04:13,320 - She told me that Hugh Hefner, he's such a gentleman. 1182 01:04:13,454 --> 01:04:16,490 And sure enough, when she passed away, he was a gentleman, 1183 01:04:16,624 --> 01:04:19,993 and he sent 1,000 red roses to her funeral. 1184 01:04:20,127 --> 01:04:23,063 (gentle music) 1185 01:04:25,032 --> 01:04:26,333 - [ASL Interpreter] My mother passed away, 1186 01:04:26,467 --> 01:04:28,902 and you can't imagine the amount of work 1187 01:04:29,036 --> 01:04:31,071 that she left behind. 1188 01:04:31,205 --> 01:04:36,210 - I was Bunny's manager and agent for four years, 1189 01:04:37,177 --> 01:04:38,946 and she was one of my best friends. 1190 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,650 Lisa would say I was probably the worst thing 1191 01:04:42,784 --> 01:04:44,351 that ever happened to her. 1192 01:04:44,485 --> 01:04:48,389 From the day I walked in this office, she did not like me, 1193 01:04:48,523 --> 01:04:52,493 and that never changed, she was totally consistent. 1194 01:04:52,627 --> 01:04:53,828 - [ASL Interpreter] I felt like Ed 1195 01:04:53,961 --> 01:04:55,896 was taking anything he wanted. 1196 01:04:56,029 --> 01:04:59,099 He reorganized things in a way that made no sense to me. 1197 01:04:59,233 --> 01:05:01,935 It was all this work me and my mother had done 1198 01:05:02,069 --> 01:05:04,004 organizing these archives. 1199 01:05:04,138 --> 01:05:08,142 Five years worth of work was just destroyed. 1200 01:05:09,410 --> 01:05:11,011 The work was being duplicated, and just put out there 1201 01:05:11,145 --> 01:05:13,515 in ways that we had no control over. 1202 01:05:13,648 --> 01:05:15,583 (pleasant music) 1203 01:05:15,717 --> 01:05:16,917 - My impression is that Ed 1204 01:05:17,050 --> 01:05:18,686 was a very good salesperson for mom. 1205 01:05:18,820 --> 01:05:22,055 I think he was one of the people that was encouraging her 1206 01:05:22,189 --> 01:05:24,826 to get her photos into the art galleries 1207 01:05:24,992 --> 01:05:27,027 and to do art shows. 1208 01:05:27,161 --> 01:05:30,698 - Lisa was very, very protective of her mom, 1209 01:05:30,832 --> 01:05:34,536 not only as a daughter, but business wise. 1210 01:05:34,669 --> 01:05:36,604 - [ASL Interpreter] I was so done with him, 1211 01:05:36,738 --> 01:05:40,073 and I decided to hire an attorney to get rid of him. 1212 01:05:41,475 --> 01:05:44,679 - It was personally devastating for me, but I bounced back, 1213 01:05:44,813 --> 01:05:48,348 and at the end of the day, I think it was all for the best. 1214 01:05:50,685 --> 01:05:53,521 - It was extremely overwhelming to be the only person 1215 01:05:53,655 --> 01:05:56,591 responsible for the archives of my mother's work. 1216 01:05:57,859 --> 01:05:59,727 My sister just didn't care about it like I did. 1217 01:05:59,861 --> 01:06:01,161 She was always on the phone, 1218 01:06:01,295 --> 01:06:02,797 trying to find someone to get rid of it. 1219 01:06:02,931 --> 01:06:04,231 And I was on the phone, 1220 01:06:04,364 --> 01:06:05,700 trying to find someone to partner with me. 1221 01:06:05,834 --> 01:06:08,502 - When I was in college, I saw "The Godfather," 1222 01:06:09,771 --> 01:06:13,140 and I thought about Michael Corleone, you know? 1223 01:06:13,273 --> 01:06:16,410 How he did not want to be part of the family business. 1224 01:06:16,544 --> 01:06:21,081 He so did not wanna be part of it, and it drew him in. 1225 01:06:21,215 --> 01:06:23,317 I have kind of felt like that. 1226 01:06:23,450 --> 01:06:26,521 I wish I could have embraced what my family was doing, 1227 01:06:26,654 --> 01:06:29,356 but I couldn't, and I still can't. 1228 01:06:30,658 --> 01:06:34,161 I don't think that the photos are respectful to women. 1229 01:06:35,530 --> 01:06:38,867 I understand completely what my mom's feelings are on this, 1230 01:06:38,999 --> 01:06:41,268 but I disagree with my mom. 1231 01:06:42,637 --> 01:06:45,640 My grandma is someone that I absolutely adored growing up, 1232 01:06:45,773 --> 01:06:48,743 someone who was good to me, someone who always made sure 1233 01:06:48,877 --> 01:06:50,444 that I was taken care of. 1234 01:06:51,746 --> 01:06:54,081 (gentle music) 1235 01:06:54,214 --> 01:06:55,482 - [Cherilu] My sister and I decided 1236 01:06:55,617 --> 01:06:57,619 it was time for us to sell everything. 1237 01:06:57,752 --> 01:07:00,153 - [ASL Interpreter] It's hard to say how I feel about it. 1238 01:07:00,287 --> 01:07:01,856 My sister was the one that really pushed me, 1239 01:07:01,990 --> 01:07:05,292 she didn't care about my mother's work the way that I do. 1240 01:07:05,425 --> 01:07:07,729 It was just too painful to go on. 1241 01:07:07,862 --> 01:07:09,731 (gentle music) 1242 01:07:09,864 --> 01:07:14,134 - Everything was sold to Daniel and Sarahjane Blum, 1243 01:07:15,402 --> 01:07:19,106 and I think that they're continuing to sell the work. 1244 01:07:19,239 --> 01:07:22,242 (gentle music) 1245 01:07:29,483 --> 01:07:34,722 - Bunny worked so much that there is enough material here 1246 01:07:36,056 --> 01:07:39,159 that I could try and sell it myself for three lifetimes, 1247 01:07:39,293 --> 01:07:41,261 and still not get anywhere. 1248 01:07:43,665 --> 01:07:48,101 More than anything, I'm really still trying to figure out 1249 01:07:48,235 --> 01:07:51,773 the best way to talk about her and the best way to see her. 1250 01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:54,408 (gentle music) 1251 01:07:54,542 --> 01:07:56,644 - [Interviewer] What do you think your mother's legacy is? 1252 01:07:56,778 --> 01:07:59,479 (gentle music) 1253 01:08:06,921 --> 01:08:09,323 - You know, I wish her legacy was different. 1254 01:08:09,456 --> 01:08:11,491 - She changed how photos were shot. 1255 01:08:11,626 --> 01:08:14,361 She taught people how to take the first selfies. 1256 01:08:14,494 --> 01:08:15,730 I mean, this is the 21st century, 1257 01:08:15,863 --> 01:08:17,699 she was so far ahead of her time. 1258 01:08:17,832 --> 01:08:20,835 - Bunny was really expert in creating mood 1259 01:08:20,969 --> 01:08:25,673 through the use of costume, wig, makeup to create ambiance. 1260 01:08:25,907 --> 01:08:28,576 - That is the Instagram aesthetic. 1261 01:08:28,710 --> 01:08:31,512 (pleasant music) 1262 01:08:32,614 --> 01:08:36,283 Bunny promoted the idea that it's okay 1263 01:08:36,416 --> 01:08:39,353 for all of us to see and be seen. 1264 01:08:39,486 --> 01:08:42,389 That it is not just for the famous people 1265 01:08:42,523 --> 01:08:46,226 to be photographed as glamorous or beautiful or sexy. 1266 01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:50,263 - She wasn't about the performative sexuality of a body, 1267 01:08:50,397 --> 01:08:52,366 she was about the sexiness of a body. 1268 01:08:52,499 --> 01:08:56,236 - What you see today is as women 1269 01:08:56,370 --> 01:08:59,107 try to put themselves forward as sexual beings, 1270 01:08:59,239 --> 01:09:01,709 try to share that with the world, 1271 01:09:01,843 --> 01:09:04,979 they need to be their own Bunny Yeager. 1272 01:09:05,113 --> 01:09:07,849 (upbeat music) 1273 01:09:09,851 --> 01:09:11,853 - I love this term, reluctant feminist, 1274 01:09:11,986 --> 01:09:14,488 because I kind of felt a little bit like, who are you to say 1275 01:09:14,622 --> 01:09:16,991 what's supposed to make someone feel powerful, 1276 01:09:17,125 --> 01:09:19,894 and what's supposed to make someone feel degraded? 1277 01:09:20,028 --> 01:09:23,363 'Cause it's like, you can never really agree on that. 1278 01:09:23,497 --> 01:09:25,933 - One of the things that I think is even more taboo 1279 01:09:26,067 --> 01:09:29,003 than women's sexualities and women's bodies, 1280 01:09:29,137 --> 01:09:30,772 it's women's ambition. 1281 01:09:31,371 --> 01:09:33,206 (pleasant music) 1282 01:09:33,340 --> 01:09:36,577 - She managed to take some of the most iconic photographs 1283 01:09:36,711 --> 01:09:40,782 of the time and frustratingly, 1284 01:09:41,582 --> 01:09:43,383 most people don't know her name. 1285 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,723 - She didn't really get the credit she deserved. 1286 01:09:48,856 --> 01:09:51,358 (pleasant music) 1287 01:09:51,491 --> 01:09:52,960 - [Cherilu] I believe what my mother was doing 1288 01:09:53,094 --> 01:09:55,429 was purely a beautiful art form. 1289 01:09:55,563 --> 01:09:58,465 It was always a form of art and beauty. 1290 01:10:01,836 --> 01:10:06,607 - Bunny was unapologetically herself. 1291 01:10:06,741 --> 01:10:12,013 She didn't conform to any cultural ideas 1292 01:10:13,380 --> 01:10:16,984 of what a woman, a mother, a wife, should be at that time. 1293 01:10:17,118 --> 01:10:19,821 (upbeat music) 1294 01:10:20,955 --> 01:10:23,891 - I want people to know that it is possible 1295 01:10:24,025 --> 01:10:27,128 to be revolutionary without realizing it. 1296 01:10:27,260 --> 01:10:29,997 (upbeat music) 1297 01:10:37,337 --> 01:10:40,908 (upbeat music continues) 1298 01:10:50,184 --> 01:10:53,253 (pleasant music) 1299 01:11:01,229 --> 01:11:04,966 (pleasant music continues) 1300 01:11:12,305 --> 01:11:16,043 (pleasant music continues) 1301 01:11:19,180 --> 01:11:21,582 - [Interviewer] When you look back on these pictures, 1302 01:11:21,716 --> 01:11:22,550 how do you feel about it? 1303 01:11:22,683 --> 01:11:24,218 Do you feel proud? 1304 01:11:24,351 --> 01:11:26,053 - Yes, my grandchildren, I want them to see and say... 1305 01:11:26,187 --> 01:11:28,055 'Cause, I mean, they look at me, 1306 01:11:28,189 --> 01:11:30,224 and one looked at my hands one time and said, 1307 01:11:30,357 --> 01:11:32,459 "Oh gran, I don't wanna get old." 1308 01:11:32,593 --> 01:11:33,895 But I wanna show them pictures and say, 1309 01:11:34,028 --> 01:11:37,098 "Hey, gran was hot and she had a good time." 1310 01:11:37,231 --> 01:11:40,300 (pleasant music) 1311 01:11:47,374 --> 01:11:51,311 (pleasant music continues) 1312 01:11:58,318 --> 01:12:02,056 (pleasant music continues) 1313 01:12:13,034 --> 01:12:15,770 - [Interviewer] What were the Miami girls like? 1314 01:12:15,903 --> 01:12:19,439 - They weren't bad, they weren't bad. 1315 01:12:20,541 --> 01:12:23,611 (pleasant music) 1316 01:12:31,285 --> 01:12:35,022 (pleasant music continues) 98613

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