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I've never been affronted by the idea of extraterrestrial intelligence.

I've come to be affronted by anything which can be

symbolized by initials.

So I think CIA, MI5,

EAT. T, UFO, is offensive.

I mean, it produces a knee -jerk reaction.

So I'm not interested in ETs or UFOs. I think we're talking about other

civilizations who are not based on planet Earth.

I think we are being taught, perhaps,

One lesson which is that there exist

tangibly other

prodigious consciousnesses and intelligences and that now

they seem to be interested tangibly,

materially, in making contact with us.

It's July 1983.

I'm traveling between government offices near Winchester and Hampshire, England.

And I came out of some trees and I looked to the left. There's a beautiful

amphitheater there.

And I sort of took a second look. You know, I was like, what?

What's that? And below the hill were five circles forming a cross.

This was cold out of nowhere.

It was me on my way to a meeting with this problem or that problem to think

about, looking, seeing, and wondering, what in the world

is this?

I didn't know what to expect, and I could see no tracks in the field.

So I went quietly, made my way towards the nearest of the five circles, and it

was the... pristine appearance on it that so impressed me.

The whole impression I got from really never, obviously I haven't seen anything

like it before, was that it really hadn't been there that long, because the

plants were moving, you know, and I could hear and watch the occasional one

pop, head would pop up, separating themselves from where they'd been

What I was looking at, looked as if it was laid down in one head.

It looked, in a way, so natural.

The plants were beautifully bent over and swirled around.

There were no marks.

I looked for the obvious places. Now, if somebody made this, well, OK, maybe

somebody made this.

So I go to where people would have had to have stood, in the centre.

And I'm looking very carefully. I'm looking at these small modules of dried

soil. looking underneath, and they were still dried and not crumbled. Under my

own foot, I pick my foot up and I look, and it's powder.

And yet here in the centre, it's not.

I went and found the farmer, who was not particularly happy to see me.

He was...

Eventually, forthcoming information, he was telling me they'd had them for

years.

This was not a random event.

This was not just a five circles in this one field.

So I go, and I speak to this guy, and I speak to this guy, and clearly, this is

widespread.

somebody told me of somebody else who'd been inquiring, and this was Pat

Delgado, and he had been talking to a Dr Terence Meaden, a meteorologist in

Wiltshire, because Meaden was also investigating circles of the same kind,

patterns, in his county.

And so the three of us came together.

We very quickly became aware of a light aircraft pilot.

This was Busty Taylor.

In 1986, I met Cole Andrews, and we were all together checking into the crop

circles.

Sometimes we were in a circle an hour, two hours, from the actual moment of

discovery, we were there.

You're still feeling the excitement from the farmer. I mean, he's, you know,

he's just gone home, made a phone call to us, come back out, he's still out of

breath, you know, and this is exactly as he found it.

So the single track in there now is yours last night.

Now I'm listening. I'm looking at a farmer who's not knowing where to go

this. Very excited. It's like, have you seen it? You know, I mean, how many more

have you seen of these? Where have you seen them? Are they the same as mine? I

mean, do they appear in this sort of crop? You know, are they close to water?

Mine's near this pond. Are the others?

This guy's, you know, he's buzzing.

And we would go out there with farmer's permission, and we had a real field day,

and we really learnt a lot in those early days.

And we really found out some interesting lays and patterns.

See the clockwise outer band here, outer ring?

About a third of this is hidden underneath this flare here.

Then you have tightening, a tightening clockwise swirling pattern at this

counterclockwise here at this point, and clockwise centre.

Absolutely incredible.

Very, very pretty.

Wherever possible, photographs from above before anybody walked in it.

That was a report.

From the report, we would be able to say, farmer discovered it. He walked

There's his track. Is that right? Yes, it is.

We can account for that.

What we would then do is that we would get magnetic north on a compass, and we

would take magnetic north as our first radius to the edge of the circle, and

then break it up every 45 degrees.

We would see whether we had an ovoid or a circle.

Crop circles were regarded as a subject of legitimate scientific interest and at

least 99 % of the people who were around the crop circles, looking at the crop

circles, that's including journalists, scientists and people, regarded this as

genuine phenomenon.

There was no suggestion at that time that this could possibly be a man -made

hoax of elaborate proportions.

And there were scientists, they were out there with all sorts of equipment.

They had cameras, they had radar, they had other measuring devices,

magnetometers, they had radiation detectors.

Goodness knows what.

I'll take the center one of the three. Okay. Yeah.

As you can see, this is a complete straight one.

Yes.

That's the angle of the crop.

This is the type of bends that was in this. This is like a cabbage plant, but

you can see, it's a 90 -degree bend.

And if you can imagine, that was in the ground, and there's just enough room for

the leaves and everything else to be on the ground.

Plant samples, I think the first ones in the year that I started, Pat Delgado

sent the first plant samples to Dr. Levengood, the biophysicist here in

Michigan. Can you tell me a little bit about Levengood?

He had been at the University of Michigan as a research scientist.

Then he went into industry and for a good many years worked in industry.

Then, as soon as he could, I think, he built his own lab at home because he had

lots of personal interests that he wanted to pursue.

And he and Pat made these arrangements to get some samples sent to him. He

wanted to see what he could see in the plant.

And so we started testing crop circles all over the world.

By now, I think at least 350, maybe it's 400, that we have sampled in eight

different countries, eight or nine now, including Australia, Israel, Canada,

the United States, Germany, the Netherlands, England.

We've done multiple circles.

in multiple different crops over 10 years.

And what Levengood documented beautifully were the basic changes in

that, in his opinion, were not caused by fungus, were not caused by pesticides,

were not caused by unusual fertilizer application, were not wind or weather

damage, caused by something else.

Before 1990, we had circles, but circles in large quantities. It may be multiple

circles, may be circles with rings around them, circles with a lot of

grape shot, or little circles scattered around, this sort of thing.

They evolved from a simple circle, a straightforward simple circle.

It was intriguing, to say the least, that it started initially circle with a

single ring, then a double ring, then we had the circle with its nearby

neighbour, and that neighbour was half the size of the mother circle, as it

were.

Those appeared all over the south of England, and then there were three.

Now, two neighbours, both half the size of the central circle, in a straight

line.

Now... That was doubled at 90 degrees.

So then we have four forming a Celtic cross.

Unconnected satellites, but a traditional Celtic cross.

There were unmistakable signs of intelligent origin in the club circles.

couldn't deny this. Say it was some kind of scientific phenomenon which was

meteorological or caused by some ionospheric vortex, something of this

just did not square up with what I saw, which consistently showed signs of

intelligence.

The geometric shapes, the patterns, the things of this kind could not possibly

have been made by some mindless phenomenon like

a vortex or a dust devil or some kind of whirlwind. It was simply out of the

question.

I suppose the bottom line is we are looking at bent plants, but bent plants

uniformly forming a structure, a geometry.

It's precise. It's intelligently located.

There is nothing random about the placement.

They are purposefully placed.

Some of them have this very complex energy print.

Nowadays they're all just swirled. These ones are very, very, very interesting

because they've got this sort of energy pattern.

I always liked studying those ones because they're almost impossible.

In those days I was wondering whether they were made by people and things like

this are almost impossible to hoax.

These aren't just arbitrarily placed as circles. There's a certain magical way

in which they've been laid out.

If you were to graphically present it as a grid, you'd more or less get that, a

hexagonal grid or triangular grid, standard triangular grid, and here are

three edge alignments, one going up there, one going down there, one going

there. So the line just flipping through circles, and I call those tangents,

which is what they're doing. It's one line, it's tangenting three circles.

I was really struck immediately by the precision of the thing, and as far as I

was concerned, it helped to explain.

the beauty of it, just as a graphic.

So the only way to do this really is to design it to be such.

Yeah. The chances of it being accidental or... Oh, yeah. Some sort of natural

occurring... Well, you could say maybe natural, but certainly not from drunken

farmers.

For me, the crop circle phenomenon started on August the 4th, 1985, when I

my first Celtic five, which was about...

four miles from where we are now.

I went to all the museums, the London Museum, Salisbury Museum, photographed

everything I could find in regards to Celtic symbolism.

And from 1985 to 1989, all the symbols I'd photographed up to then

appeared in the crops.

I was flying with Busty.

And he said to me over a place in Hampshire, you know, it wouldn't be

something to see all of the patterns we've seen before all overlaid into one

intricate design.

And the very next day, that formation was on the ground, more or less where

said the words.

That one was the Celtic Five with a ring around the outside of it.

The formation is absolutely huge.

In front of the harvester now is the centre of a circle, and it is absolutely

enormous, very much larger than any of the circles connected with annular rings

we've seen before.

And here we come up to the first circle, which is formed on the annular

ring.

The heads of the plants on this side lie over the top of the plants flattened

during the formation of the annular ring.

This is definitely genuine.

I think we've got a number one again, the first of its kind.

So it was the two combinations put together then. Of course, when you check

Celtic symbols, it's there.

This was the formation that appears on the cover of Colin Andrews' book,

Circular Evidence. It was the first really famous crop circle.

The crop circle got imprinted in most people's minds at the very early stages

the phenomenon, and it was simply a beautiful Celtic cross.

It was very interesting that if you drew a pentagram on the outer circle, just

hang it in there, it closes a central space that is the size of.

the central element.

And if you repeat that procedure, you take the central element and hang a

pentagram inside it and fill that space with a circle. That circle there is the

size of these four satellites.

So you've got the same proportion expressed twice invisibly in this

which is one of the reasons, I think, why it is very pleasing. There's all

stuff going on, which is always the case in good design and good sacred art.

And the interesting thing was that it was, sitting on top of an underground

reservoir.

And this is another thing that we have noticed with the tree phenomenon, that

seems to locate where there's water, very close to water.

It's something like 93 to 98 percent of the formations do in fact occur over

this chalk and or green sand aquifer.

As the summer comes on and there's less and less moisture, I mean rain, the

aquifer recedes.

and as it does it sinks down lower as the edges of it recede you get a strong

electrical charge set up in the ground because the water percolating through

chalk creates this charge as the summer goes along you see the charge increases

the lower the aquifer is the farther the water has to travel through the chalk

the greater the electrical charge well guess what the numbers of crop circles

cluster along the edges of the aquifer also

Then one of the questions that comes up all the time is why don't they occur

everywhere? Well, we don't know yet why they don't, but this is one possible

answer.

Originally, all of the land here was covered in trees.

And then about 7 ,000 years ago, people came here and they cleared the land.

And it was really the heart of England. It was the beginning of farming.

And there was a huge community, actually, able to live here.

All of this landscape was worshipped as a landscape.

And it was also laid out in what we would call the Druidic or the Celtic

The place of the north would be associated with winter and

place in the east would be sunrise and new beginnings.

In recent years, archaeologists have discovered probably the most ancient

site ever found in Britain.

On your farm? On Golden Bald Hill, which is next to our farm.

Much older than anything that's ever been found before, probably by at least

,000 years. And what was the nature of it? Well, a habitation site, and people

lived there, possibly dating back to 6 ,000 BC.

In this area, you'll see carved on the hillside a lot of white horses.

And the white horse is the symbol of Britain, Albion.

And it's the carrier of the soul to the other world.

A lot were done in the last century.

When they dug into the hillsides, in many cases they found the ancient, the

horses.

There is remaining one big white horse at Uffington, which has now been proved

to go back to at least 2500 BC.

They were meant to be seen by the gods.

They were meant to be seen from above.

I think this has always been an ancient sacred site and an important place.

Ah, and of course this makes such sense in terms of the whole crop circle

phenomenon. Why is it in England? People always say, well, why do they have all

the best formations in England? What's that all about? And this is the story.

The English landscape is loaded with all kinds of... We have phenomenal sacred

landscapes.

I strongly believe that man came here, probably from all over the world even,

thousands of years ago and worshipped here and built Avebury and Silbury.

Silbury Hill is right in front of us, known as the Hill of the Shining Beings.

This is a very, very ancient and the largest man -made mound certainly in

Europe. And yet, there have been nearly every season in the days you could climb

Filbury, you could see in the height of the season at least half a dozen

formations within actual sight of Filbury.

In 1990, a whole new event happened when we got the linear effect, because we

got the shaft, which joined the two circles together.

They were something we'd just never seen before.

sheer wonder and magic and excitement was almost too much to bear.

In 1990, we had the very first pictograph.

We thought they were all like that.

It turned out we had the first boxes, the first tees.

Prior to that, they'd always been... It was that

amazing Alton Barnes pictogram, which stretched out in the landscape 365

foot of it.

And it was unheard of. We'd never had anything that length.

But not only just one, there were three of them in the area, which had all

occurred almost the same night.

And the interesting thing was that they had...

additions to them, little sort of spokes coming off them, which scholars of the

arcane likened to astronomical symbols, Celtic symbols, and it brought in

people from all different disciplines, and suddenly everybody was talking

together.

You got the Francis starting to talk to the metaphysicist.

How many people do you think came through?

Thanks.

Sort of carnival atmosphere.

Total strangers.

Stood together in groups, chatting away about, gosh, you know, what God did.

See, I love these.

Look at that.

That is a piece of history. Look at that.

That's the first ever time that a crop circle...

created shapes, actual breaks in the crop.

Oh, really?

And that's a hand -drawn survey of that.

This is someone that's just gone in and said, what is this? I don't know what it

is, but I want to measure it.

And, you know, within two days of it appearing, Mr. Someone -or -other has

in, left his car at the road, gone down, his wife sat down and gone, wow.

And he's gone, I've got to go back to the car and get a pen. I want to measure

this. And then they go back and they measure it.

It's what Colin and Pat were doing as well, starting to measure them.

In those days, it was evolving very, very fast. It seemed to be accelerating

an extraordinarily, extraordinarily rate.

I hired a helicopter and I got there when it was really quite fresh and it

just totally amazing. But it did seem to be part of what we

suddenly called the genuine phenomenon.

This is an alchemical symbol and they've interpreted the various

symbols on the corners as being

I pray it's philosophical or mystical symbols.

Quite complex.

You think it's got a basic three -fold geometry, but it hasn't. You also think

those edges are straight. They're not.

So let's have a look.

Superimposed on it is a perfect triangle.

If you hang a perfect triangle orientated north, that one there is due

from the middle.

So if we go 120 degrees west from that line there, it would have been a bit

further north if it had been on a true triangular geometry.

Then you can see the difference between where it actually is placed and the

ideal 120 degree triangular geometry creates a little circle.

That little circle in itself is exactly the size of the circle that appears over

here on this part that is precisely 120 degrees around that way.

Every detail of these things, when you start looking at them, is so carefully

thought through and precise that it really is mysterious.

From the centre, there's an obvious outer radius defined to there and there.

Encircle the whole figure, hang a pentagram in it, the arms cross to

size of the central element, put another pentagram in it, the arms cross to

define the size of the central element.

And furthermore, if we point the pentagram due east, we exactly pick up

arm.

Pentagrams pointing due east is the standard way you orientate a pentagram

the landscape if you're building a sacred temple.

And then at a stone circle down the road, an ancient stone circle, you find

same use of a pentagram pointing east.

It was exactly the same use of geometry.

It was very interesting that the crop circles were...

giving me clues that were really feeding my research into stone circles.

So we wonder what came first.

Did there appear in the land, in the original crops, these circles?

And did they mark these places with stone to hold the energy there?

The ancients had geometry as a scheme of operating.

as a way, a channel between themselves and the higher domain.

Stone circles have been there for 5 ,000 years.

It's endured.

They're made of 50, 60 ton stones, some of them.

And they've been there for 5 ,000 years. And they're geometrical.

And the crop circles are there for two or three weeks.

And they're also geometric.

And so although you would think that they're not related, they're not related

time, and they're not related in terms of their endurance,

They are giving, if you like, a message.

Math is a universal language, and geometry is a way of speaking certain

And we must therefore assume that one of the most powerful tools to understand

the message is to assume there might be a message and learn how we must

understand geometry in order to receive that message.

In order to fully grasp what's going on here, you have to study geometry.

Geometry is the organization of space within which all objects happen.

So every object has a relationship to some geometric principle?

Yeah, every object is geometrical. It's got all the natural world has

geometry built right into its very structure.

The principle of sacred geometry is... People who study sacred geometry believe

that sacred geometry embodies the notion that all of nature is organized

geometrically, whether it's the natural world or the unseen dimensions.

The symbols that we see in sacred geometry are used in churches or in

paintings or in the occult world.

all have their derivation from some geometric organization of the

subconscious or the unconscious mind.

Yes, I don't call it sacred geometry because I call it symbolic geometry or

geometry with meaning.

I mean, it is sacred because it's eternal, which is what sacred means.

The circle is the fundamental symbol of humanity

on Earth.

It has the most widespread symbolic meaning culturally.

If you're looking for a two -dimensional form which has unity, it's

the circle. There's nothing else.

Scholars and philosophers in different ages have perceived this as

not the most appropriate, but the only possible symbol of God

and divinity and heaven.

At times of great need, the gods sometimes, historically, will

man. And the medium through which they do that is always traditionally Mercury.

Mercury is the messenger of the gods.

And the Hermetic arts and Hermetic traditions have specific fingerprints,

them being the pentagram.

So the pentagram is the star, right?

It's always used by wizards and witches.

you may say nowadays how can we express that and you can express it by saying

that all the ratios of the pentagram are golden ratios and the divine proportion

is the most special or golden ratio is the most special proportion of all

because as the part is to the whole so the larger part is to the smaller part

the small thing to this is the same as this

to the whole thing

The proportion of the small to the large is the same as the large to the whole.

That's right. And even here, it's the same.

If you follow this process of increasing the five -fold stars, this and

this is the same as this to this, or as this to the whole.

The genuine crop circles look so harmonic. They include harmonies.

which can be found in ourselves.

If we talk about the golden section, your whole body is the golden section.

The length of the bones to each other are always everywhere in the golden

section. So, golden section is everywhere.

And so it's also in you and it's also in your mind. And if you see something

which is proportioned in the golden section or the golden mean, you feel a

familiarity with it. And of course you are, because it's all over in you. And

you are living,

example of the golden section.

Even though we would find geometries in nature, like in the petals of

a flower, for example, these geometries that we were seeing as early as 1991

were expressing theorems that were not induced with geometry.

So this implied not just intentional design, but very creative.

intentional design in terms of geometry.

And that then created the possibility of it being truly another, some other

intelligence, very intelligent, creating these circles with these geometries and

doing something new.

As a school maths teacher, what pulled me into it is that nobody's ever seen

these designs before or thought of them.

They're not just brought out of old books, you know.

It's not just sacred geometry from old temples, it really isn't.

Four circles will have ancient symbology, they will have advanced

the same symbol.

When we really follow this closely, we can see that there is a train of thought

coming through, and there are many strands of symbols, and it's very

very eloquent.

To start with, they were just purely circular.

Then we got into the linear aspect.

Then one year we had infectograms.

The year of the infectograms.

Then we had the year of the curly men.

Oh, that's a lovely year.

Then we had the year which is very organic where we started getting the

scorpions and the bees That

was a brilliant year that brought in tremendous

symbology

Then we started getting the fractals.

That was exciting.

We then got much more into the math, the geometry.

That was the beginning of the really serious geometry of the fractal images.

Well, we've got the Koch fractal here. You can actually calculate it

mathematically. The Koch fractal is basically a line.

You divide the line by putting a point in it and basically stretch it out, so

you basically get a triangle on a straight line.

The thing with fractals is basically because it's recursive, you're dividing

each line into two iterations.

So if I redraw it, you can see each line is basically a miniature version of

what was the previous one, and that's where you can see the Koch circles come

into it.

And obviously if you went to three iterations, redraw it, each one of those

turn divides.

So of course you can go on infinitely with a practical.

In 1996, we had the Julius set appear very close to Stonehenge.

Now, my friend Rod Taylor, who's a pilot, was flying with a friend from

back to Thruxton, which is where we are now, and they circled around

Stonehenge, and my friend Rod Taylor was taking photographs of the pilot.

Well, they left Stonehenge, came here, Rod got out.

The pilot got back in after being refuelled and flew back down towards

and then noticed this formation next door to Stonehenge. Now, they sort of

worked it out. The time lapse between when they were there to get here,

refuelled, back in the plane, back, was about 25 minutes.

And they swear blind that that formation was not there when they were circling

around Stonehenge at the time.

So we've got a 25 -minute gap where 140 circles appeared at

Stonehenge, rather mysteriously, and really we haven't got to the bottom of

one yet.

This is indeed the queue to the, right the way up to this crop circle.

It's absolutely extraordinary.

Stonehenge is just there.

And the crop circle's on the left -hand side.

And here's the sign.

Come see Europe's best crop circle.

The farmer's decided to open his field.

Yesterday I spoke to him and he was wanting to keep people out and was very

angry about its arrival.

Now it would appear that he's thought things through and can see that he's

to compensate for the damage by charging £3 a head to enter.

And now we have this problem.

Thanks a lot.

So how many people do you reckon you've had here today?

And I guess you're seeing people from all

kinds of parts of the world?

What's your own opinion on what it is that we have here?

Do you have a view?

Sure.

Sure.

So they're doing pretty well, actually. They're on the back end of it.

So what have you got so far, Richard?

This one that you asked me how to look at. Right. Oh, right. That one, in fact,

when you line up the center with that and that, they're exactly in line.

Thanks a lot.

With the compass bearing, you know, we've been talking about the central

and the open end.

cutting either side of the stonehenge. Have you been able to look at that or

confirm that you have a compass yourself? Yes.

That might be... That would be a good thing to do, I think.

My compass shows from the centre of the circle to the right -hand side of the

stone in zero degrees.

Right. And the open end, which is here, to the left -hand side of the stone in

zero degrees. The pencil circle again?

Yes, centre. All right. So we're in the open end of the tail right now.

To the musicians, it was a bass clef.

To the geometers and mathematicians, it was a computer -generated fractal image,

which they called the Julia set. That's why it's got its name.

To the marine biologists, it was a perfect example of a cross -section of a

nautilus, a seashell.

And to a physiotherapist who counted out the number of circles, she said, well,

that is absolutely the correct number of vertebrae in a mammalian skeleton.

There are families of circles, like Julia said, the Mandelbrot

or fractals.

And it's very interesting that all of them...

come in groups of three with each major themes you know the julia set and

the fractal stars and the mandelbrot we had three of them and they all followed

the following line by its complexity and size in 96 we had the jewish had a

stonehenge it was the single one and we had the um the triple julia

set

and the small, as Julia said, like shape at Livington Castle.

They appeared in this one, two, three, on a timeline.

But the geometry or the complexity and the size was one, two,

three.

The same happened with the fractal stars.

We had first Silbury Hill, which was the simple one.

then milk hill with the interior one, and

then triangle like this, a simple version of it.

One, two, three in relation to time, but then one,

two, three in relation to the complexity inside.

It looked like a plan.

The plan was not just followed in one year. It also went over three years and

even by crossing countries, by crossing borders.

We're being forced to consider that this universe has all

kinds of intelligences all around us that we have been ignoring.

Particular intelligences can act freely within the universe that we inhabit.

They don't have to be our intelligence.

They can be mysterious other intelligences.

I think that's really what's so fascinating. The various domains of

show that just like we are a particular intelligence within the cosmos, we can

make art in participation with other forces. So these other intelligences can

the same thing.

Well, I think the one thing that people misunderstand about art is that the

viewer is part of the art. The art without the viewer doesn't even exist.

It doesn't exist unless it's viewed.

That is what the art is about. It's in the moving through time and space, the

evolution of the unfolding of the experience.

When you look at a painting by Van Gogh, you see a picture of a landscape, maybe

some people walking through it and stuff like that. And yet, in that, you can

also sense his energy, who he is, who he was. You get a whole, there's this

whole encapsulation of this person.

So if I was to look at an analyzed crop circles, I would try to look at them in

terms of like...

How do I go back to the creator from the same way I look at a painting?

If these were messages coming from somewhere else, it's entirely

that the thing would be witty, playful, geometrical.

and staggeringly beautiful and inspiring.

The systems of proportion used in all sacred art and architecture are very

specific. They all embody a certain amount of geometry, and they all obey

certain rules.

There are rules which state that you have to balance line and curve in sacred

art. We see it at the low place in church windows, Islamic patterns, all

rest of it, so the light.

The line elements of a design have to balance the curve elements of the

Crop circles were obeying that rule.

Another rule. You have to balance your light and your dark in any piece of

ancient, sacred art.

Again, crop circles were obeying that rule.

The tunic of it, the laid crop and the standing crop.

Sacred art is supposed to be operating without ego. You don't find, you don't

have artists behind sacred art. The divine is supposed to be operating

sacred art.

Again, crop circles were exactly following that rule.

Another rule, your integrity of material for sacred art. You shouldn't really be

using anything that's got anything that isn't directly from the earth.

You want to stay green and clean and holy.

Again, crop circles are obeying that rule.

And then you've even got other rules, such as the temporary nature of quite a

lot of sacred art, that it's often destroyed after it's made. It's not

to be venerated too highly for too long, otherwise it becomes a sacred cow.

And again, crop circles, they're being mowed down every year.

Another good example of it.

Crop circles are the finest example of modern innovative sacred art for our

times. There's no competition.

There's nothing happening in the visual arts or modern arts at any level

anywhere on the planet at the moment that begins to compare with it as an art

phenomenon.

And there is no artist, certainly, who could begin to compare with the artist

who is behind the...

crop circle phenomenon in terms of design.

They are very, very, very, very good designers, and yet they don't hold their

head up. So who are they? So what is it? So who's behind it?

Why does it bear all the hallmarks of a mercurial intervention in some way,

or even something else?

I mean, if it's the guys in the spaceships, I'd love to visit one of

chapels, you know, because they sure do good.

Good windows.

Okay, you don't know, of course, where to walk. What we're going to do is we're

going to follow the tram line, and then we take the proper tram line to go up

into the formation.

So we just go in there.

To be honest, I thought all the crop circles were a big, big hoax, one big

There is a phenomenon, but I don't know exactly what it is.

People are fairly limited in their way of thinking. They want to have the

answer, it's alien or it's human.

And I think it's something in between. I don't think it's aliens. I don't think

it's coming from outer space.

But on the other hand, it's a phenomenon. It's not just...

one big hoax, something extraordinary is going on here, and I think it has to do

with our own being, our own way of thinking.

Let's see, let's not miss it.

So in fact, in a way, we are creating them ourselves, but not in the

way of putting the crop flat with a board, but I think we do it ourselves

anyway. It's not coming from outer space, it's us.

We are looking at ourselves.

It's our own mirrors we are looking at.

Okay, let's go in.

From what I see from here now, it looks a little bit violent to me.

You see, the crop is shooting up already again. It's a little cutting up.

There's one thing I learned in all the years I'm coming in the crop circles.

It's that it's very difficult to judge by eye just is it genuine or not.

I tried to do that when I came for the first time. I thought, oh, this is

genuine, this is not.

Just by looking at it, but that's very difficult.

Every crop stock has its own character.

So this is done in straight lines. As you can see, it's alternating.

This one is on top.

Then you have this one.

Then it's this one again.

You see the different layers.

So if this is man -made, two people were needed to do this, at least.

Why is that?

Because it's not that one side went down and then the other side. You can see

that this is over this again, but this is over that again.

So what you need is two people who do it alternately.

I'm not saying people did it, but that's how difficult this is already.

There's only this small part already.

It's not that easy.

It's not that straightforward as you would think if you look at this for the

first time.

There are lines, you can call them pathways, but they're construction lines

under the crop.

This one is fairly obvious because it's laying on top of it.

This one is less obvious because it's going under it, but when you follow it,

you will see it's one big line.

And the rest is constructed around these lines.

These lines are not as straightforward as you would think. You would think, so

it's a hoax, it's all man -made, but that's not the case. Sometimes there are

lines that you don't need, and lines you do need, miss.

are not there.

The bending in the notes is something that only happens very occasionally, and

it's a misunderstanding about it. A lot of people think you will find it in

every single crop circle.

I only found it in a very few crop circles.

A lot of times people will mistake, and I will give you an example in the

standing crop.

This is the way how crop grows.

It comes out and then goes up.

Now when this goes down, It gives you the impression that there's a bend here.

That's not the bent notes.

Bent notes are the ones, in fact, that are the middle ones, the straight ones,

that are bent.

And that is amazing.

That's unexplainable. I believe there's a phenomenon. I'm not going to look for

bent notes anymore in every single crop circle.

I try much more to get the feel from what does it do to me, what does the

do to me, but just the general feeling.

And all the...

The plant research, I will leave it up to others, to Nancy Tolbert and people

like those. They can do this kind of research.

That's not my business, in fact.

I heard about this guy, this Michigan guy, it was Levengood, who had started

do plant work. I was staggered that there was somebody in the United States

interested.

I mean, delighted and really amazed to find that there was anybody, because by

then I already had learned that there were crop circles all over the country.

They weren't just in England, and they were in the United States, they were in

Canada, they were in other Western European countries. We knew about them

Australia by then.

And both Burke and Levengood, as far as I know to this day, are pretty much

committed. to the idea that the causative agency is an ionospheric

the plasma that's generated in the ionosphere, and then descends to the

surface, goes to certain locations for whatever reason, the aquifer connection,

some sort of magnetic anomaly or whatever, and leaves these impressions

crop as a result.

The design aspect is the thing that causes the most trouble for people with

explanation. In fluid dynamics and in numerous other areas of science, you see

fabulous designs exhibited all the time.

I mean, just look for a minute. Think of the head of a sunflower seed. Just

think what it looks like.

I mean, how amazingly intricate is that? I mean, the shell of a seashell.

I mean, there are millions and millions of examples of nature creating

incredibly intricate designs.

I mean, the major point is, I think, for people who don't know anything about

crop circles, is not to jump to the conclusion that because you've never

anything like this before, that it is supernatural.

It might be supernatural. I don't know for sure.

But look first at the obvious.

we have still only scratched the surface of what is there to be understood.

And it may be that many things which have historically been thought of as

supernatural are in fact part of the natural world that occur only randomly

only occasionally or under certain circumstances, and that they're actually

part of the natural environment that nobody's bothered to study very much and

doesn't understand yet. The thing with science, the beauty of it is, if you get

a piece of information that doesn't fit,

you have to go back to square one and you build another theory. You take in,

follow the data. You don't come up with an idea and then make things fit. You

see what's actually there.

And what Levengood documented beautifully, and I would guess tediously

many years, were the basic changes in the plants.

And he also discovered magnetic particles in the soils that are very

One of the things that he discovered was that the seeds taken from crop circle

plants grew totally differently than the controls.

What this is is a bunch of seeds taken from a formation and a bunch of seeds

from the controls in a lab tray. And he's germinating. He has a germination

chamber. It's calibrated to a certain temperature, a certain amount of

etc., etc.

And it's done in a very standard way.

If the crop was young and immature, the seed was not fully formed when the crop

circle occurred.

The seedling was depressed, the seedling's energies.

Often they wouldn't germinate, and if they did germinate, not strongly enough

be viable.

However, in mature crop, where the seed was already formed when the energies

hit, then you got exactly the opposite. You got increased growth in yield.

Normally a germination is four days. All they're looking for is does the seed

germinate or not.

That's the beginning of what Levengood does. Once that is done, he's then

measuring the root and shoot development for up to 14 days in some cases.

He's wanting to see what happens subsequent to germination.

This is this case in Maryland where the elongated nodes occurred.

There were these swaths cut through the crop.

and the nodes are bent to the left and the right. Node bending is a natural

response of the plant. If it's young and growing, if it's knocked down and not

killed, it will try to reorient itself according to gravity. It's called

gravitropism or phototropism. It just reorients itself to the light.

So if you go to a crop circle and nodes are bent, if you don't know when that

crop circle occurred and you don't know the age of the crop at the time, You

don't know whether this node bending might be due to natural phototropism or

whether it's something that occurred during the event.

If you get there quickly and you know that it has just happened and you find

massive node bending like this, these 90 -degree angles, this was part of the

phenomenon. It actually bent the nodes.

I want to show you the node enlargement photo.

The top are nodes. These are stem nodes taken from inside the formation.

The bottom shows you the controls, which are taken at a considerable distance

outside.

What are the characteristics of this node lengthening? What Levengood says is

going on is that the moisture, remember the plant stem is hollow, and the

nutrients, the moisture which nourishes the plant, goes up through this stem.

Plasmas, a fact about plasmas is that they emit microwaves in bursts, pulses.

His idea is that the microwaves from these pulses are connecting with the

moisture inside the plant stem, just like they would in your microwave oven,

heating the plant up, which softens it and allows it to fall.

The moisture inside turns to steam, and as it does so, it has to escape.

Well, if the plants are young and pliable, the antifibers are pliable, the

escapes by stretching the nodes.

That's how you get the elongated nodes.

If the energy is extremely intense and or if the crop is old and the fibers

are tough, then it can't get out by stretching it because the fibers won't

stretch or it's just too much energy. Then it blows a hole right out at the

node. That's called the blown node.

Yeah, and that's what those are our exploded nodes.

These are samples of corn.

We have done a number of corn formations. These are crop circles that

the corn. But you see, what we're looking at here is these.

You want to see the light coming right through those.

The crop was down, and here were these expulsion cavities.

The amount of energy that it would take to do this in full -grown corn must be

quite astounding.

When we do this sampling, a lot of people think that, you know, we take a

stock here or there.

Well, we don't. We take hundreds of plants, thousands often, say 50, 60, 70

samples, and each sample consists of between 10 and 20 plants.

And then we do the same thing in the controls, starting immediately outside

circle and going up to 500, 1 ,000 feet away in several directions.

Then the idea is that you compare what you see in the plants inside.

to what you see in the plants outside.

So it seems to be some three -fold double crescent spinner.

Yeah.

Beautiful to behold from the hill. I can't wait to get up in the air.

Yeah, so, how do you explain the bend on that guy?

It seems like maybe one out of a hundred have these bends that, if it were

mechanical, they'd all be broken.

There is this very nice looking, what I call a plumber's bend. It's absolutely

90 degrees going down.

Master Lou found that one.

Huh? Yeah, that one's good.

Wow, he found a magical thing.

Yeah, quite a lot of them.

Yeah. Ah, lovely.

All right, this is a case in Salem, Oregon, 1997, out on the West

Coast.

We found node length changes in the plants in this formation, and we also

a massive incidence of expulsion cavities.

The controls in this case were taken away from the formation in this

and away from the formation in that direction, out into the standing crop.

What we discovered was that we had significant node length changes inside

formation, and we had these expulsion cavities.

But what we also found in the standing crop Outside the formation, the

supposedly unaffected crop, we found node length changes which decreased as a

function of distance away from the edge and in a completely linear fashion.

Those are the controls taken north and south.

The node lengths are decreasing the farther you get away in the standing

Again, if you talk about man -made events, how did they change the node

in standing crop that is apparently completely visually?

There's a law in physics known as the Beer -Lambert principle, and it simply

describes the precise way in which matter, any matter, absorbs

energy. Well, if you're using node length change as the equivalent to

exposure to the energy, then as that decreases, when it does so in a linear

fashion, it means that what caused the change has got to be electromagnetic

energy.

Because the Beer -Lambert principle, that's what it's describing.

Then you have another interesting thing. You've seen many standing centers

inside crop circles.

Well, guess what?

The standing centers often show as much change or more in the nodes than what

you find in the down crop surrounding them.

And the hoaxers are telling you, well, they knock the plants down. Okay.

Then how in the world did they do?

What happened to the standing plants? I was just thinking, I wonder why the

crops didn't fall down, if they were affected.

It's a complex energy system. Whatever this is, it is a complex, multi, many

energies. You have an electrical component.

There is obviously a strong magnetic field, another energy present.

There may be energies we haven't described. The point is, you've got,

one single energy doing this. And each energy is functioning independently of

the others and chaotically.

It's called a thermodynamically unstable situation.

It means you can't predict precisely which thing is going to operate which

I would think that local weather factors would affect it. I would think local

geographical factors would affect it. The type of crop, the age the crop is at

the time it occurs.

All of those things are probably factors in whatever the final result really is.

This is obviously a very fresh one.

It wasn't here half past ten last night when we drove past and we happened to

spot it this morning as we were driving down the road.

When we first got into the formation, the first thing I did was test it with

compass and taking a bearing down these side arms from the star, central star,

I was getting about an eight degree variation in north from the very centre

the circle to about where we're standing here, this sort of distance.

And then from where we were standing here, to the outer edge of the crop

it was all constant so in other words the fluctuation was occurring between

and the center

this is a

case of the magnetic particles in the soils being distributed in a completely

linear fashion what we've discovered now in formation after formation all over

the world are these tiny little rounded particles.

Oh, look at that.

Wow. You can't see a lot of these with the naked eye.

But the fact that they're perfectly spherical indicates they were in a

state as they fell to Earth because that's how you get the spheres.

We used to make lead shot that way, right?

Revolutionary War, we heated the lead up and we dropped it off towers because it

forms spheres.

This is a case in Canada a couple of years ago in this area of Saskatchewan.

Those are several formations which occurred in one field simultaneously.

This is the sampling diagram on that larger circle. And as you can see, what

did here were two diameters.

Now, in every case, a plant sample is taken, let's say 20 plants per spot, and

soil sample is taken.

The lines that go outside are controls.

Right, obviously.

Okay, in this circle, that is the deposition of the magnetic material, the

of the material being found around the edges.

But when you get this very tight linear disposition, what you're talking about

is a force or energy at work. I mean, you've got – that's a clear display of

You could think that people could have handfuls of this stuff and just be

throwing it around if they were making it. But when you get – when it's

microscopic to begin with and you get it – you get these clear linear

distributions of it, whether it's node length or magnetic material, what it is,

how in the world would anybody do it?

You know, in this case, I mean, it indicates that a force, an energy was at

work. It's governed by principles completely outside of human beings. It

nothing to do with us.

The proof here is so consistently solid.

It reaffirms itself every damn case.

It certainly affirms that it's made or that these things are created with the

manipulation of some sort of exotic use of energy.

Apparently. I mean, I've spent years being torn.

about the natural versus something else idea.

And it's only in the last year, with an accumulation of a number of

experiences, that I've gotten to the point where I cannot personally think

I cannot understand this as a phenomenon without some kind of consciousness

involved.

I have no idea whether it's my consciousness or the collective

Jung's or the consciousness of quanta. I mean, I don't know.

People are saying this is the most amazing formation that's ever hit the

and I would kind of agree with them, really.

It's the biggest, the most expansive.

smashed all records for numbers of circles and geographical spread.

Everything about it is like the absolute pinnacle almost of the whole,

you know, 20 years or so.

When I first walked into this thing, so vast I had absolutely no idea of what I

was standing in, just a sea of circles covering a large proportion of the

It took us half hour to find the centre.

It gives one a fairly good impression of the scale of this thing, and that's

after looking at hundreds of circles over the years, so we're pretty familiar

with geometric shapes and patterns in a field and figuring them out.

But this one, I mean, I ask you, 409 circles.

That's a tall order by anyone's standard.

It was raining all night the night this formation came down. This is a high

-altitude location. This takes a battering by the weather.

We were the first ones in here when this formation arrived.

No footprints, no mud, you know, no broken plants. All the centres were

No sign of human activity or entry into this field at all. You know, I've seen

the result of a team of people or a gang of people smashing around in a

cornfield all night. They make a hell of a mess. You just can't help it. It's a

matter of fact.

This was...

Totally inconsistent with everything I know about human -made crop circles.

You can't do that in a cornfield. Just hit the deck perfectly, first time

no errors, no mistakes, no glitches.

It's just here, and it arrived in a few hours in perfect condition.

Well, certainly in the early days, there was a strong feeling from...

those of us who were there, that there was something around here, there was

something of an invisible nature which was around, which was either making the

circles or associated with the circles.

And from many of the reports, there were reports of balls of light, lights in

the sky.

Suddenly in those early days... And, you know, you've heard about the balls of

light which everybody sees in the crop circle areas in England.

Well, often they're seen when there's no crop circle.

in the field they're simply in the field the lights and in most of those cases

after the light bulbs have been photographed or videotaped or whatever a

circle will occur in that location sometimes a week later or three weeks a

whatever well i have seen those balls of light not just at crop circle locations

and this made me think about what they are because i well i know

that what i have seen was not always related to crop circles But then I have

seen them again in relation to a crop circle.

I mean, don't forget that we've got phenomenal light activity in this area,

daylight as well as in the night.

And they're not just seen in the summer, they're seen in the winter too. And

they're seen by people who just live in the village and have got nothing to do

with crop circles.

So we know there's something weird going on.

Avebury, Alton Barnes, you know, that area, where they are seen really quite

regularly, captured on film several times now.

Particularly, I mean, those taken by Steve Alexander, for example, in 1990.

We were just about to leave, you see. I was leaving.

I was picking up my gear, put on my shoulder, and I turned and I

saw this object come into view.

If it had been actually five seconds afterwards, we would have missed this,

because we would have carried on up the hill. Now I actually turned round and

saw it. I mean, it came into view, it turned, then it went down into the corn,

and it moved through the corn.

Moving between two formations, crop formations that are in the field, moving

from this one to this one.

It knew what it was doing. It knew where it was going. It was intelligently

controlled.

Dropping down into a tractor tire mark as if it's looking at the tractor tire

mark. Nothing random about it. There's no movement in the prevailing wind, you

know, moving as you would in the direction of the wind if this was a

something similar.

You see, the object came down and it stopped for a long time.

So I thought I'd pan away to the rings.

To give you the distance from where the object was and the rings were. Pan back

and give you an actual relation of the two distances.

For all this time it was glinting, flashing all the time. Then it took off.

And of course then it just carried on over the hill.

Moved up and away.

Over the actual tractor which the farmer was...

It's a bird.

You know, I spoke to the tractor driver who was seen on this film that Steve

took, and that ball went over the tractor driver's head by about 35,

40 feet.

And what the tractor driver sees himself, as you can see on the film, he

his tractor as he sees it go over the top.

And so we have on film this ball of light.

There's no question in my mind that whatever those balls of light are, they

in a purposeful manner.

If it's a random natural thing that's happening, then I think one in the 30,

100 will be filmed. So we have the camera and the cop -on to film it.

But that's not the case. It's half, even more than half of the sightings are

filmed. Like Donald Fletcher who walks at Barbary Castle, he does not even have

his camera on the tripod, yet the balls were right already.

What's that?

I can't think what that is.

Can you see it moving across?

When the camera's pointing.

The big question is, number one, do you think the balls of

light are intelligent?

Yes. I'm convinced.

You're not convinced?

No, there's no real proof of that.

What I see is an intelligent behavior.

Are they energetic or are they a device?

I think they're energetic.

I think, yeah, because if you look really good at the footages, you should

analyze them really carefully.

Everybody who sees them, the first thing they say is, light.

So they recognize it as a light, not as a mechanical thing, but as a light.

Do you have any stories of people thinking more close up and having it

with their thinking?

Charlie Mallard was down here visiting a park. He was sitting in a circle at

night, and this thing just showed up. It was two feet away from the sand.

So you had a ball of light experience, right?

Several, actually.

Yeah.

Some very interesting paranormal experiences since getting involved in

situation. Part of my initial motivation for being here was to kind of, if this

stuff is being done by something else for whatever reason, I would like to be

there when it happens, you know?

So on this particular occasion, I was in a formation close to here before I

actually saw her.

or physically experienced anything.

Probably about three to five minutes before this happened, the whole

in the formation changed, or at least in this particular part of it.

The whole atmosphere around me within the formation became very highly

practically electric, to the degree where I was sitting there thinking, you

know, this is really weird, you know, should I leave the formation?

And I...

Ball of light just appeared directly in front of me for some glowing sphere kind

of orange yellow Translucent not really casting much of a glow and it didn't

really do much It just kind of appeared hovered above the ground for something

like a minute quite a long time I didn't have time to kind of you know get up

and move around a bit and have a look and Strangely enough as as this ball of

light appears the whole subjective creepy

Bizarre feelings all go and I'm just in a normal everyday situation, but as if

this ball of light there Is there for up to a minute in the hole in the ball of

light fades out is all right fades to nothing over a few seconds And I fell

asleep immediately Have you guys actually seen your

own balls of light in fields or in crop circles

So was it at night or during the day?

I only saw one really ball of light. It was at night time. It was floating over

a crop field.

Slowly, it took about two minutes to go from one side to the other side.

This was such an ember ball. It looked like a fireplace, an open fireplace.

It was getting bigger, smaller, bigger. It was just floating slowly until it

disappeared behind the shed.

And I thought that's going to take two seconds and then we'll see it again. And

I saw it again. It stopped.

Why it was behind the shed. It's very strange.

How far away were you?

A couple of hundred meters. It was pretty distant. So I had to use my

to really see it.

I saw it. It was there as well. I saw it with the naked eye.

But I missed the details that he saw because he had the binoculars.

Balls of light are certainly seen around the hills here. This is why we have

Golden Ball Hill.

Because the memory of balls of light have always been seen there.

Are these places of communication with intelligence beyond this physical world?

Who knows, but certainly that is in the folklore of the land here.

Willow the wisps that were caught here in England and Germany, they are called

Ehrlichter, and they have been observed for centuries.

How do we approach phenomena in a way that is open enough that we can actually

see what it actually is outside of our own?

We have to lose our illusions and our preconceived ideas. We have to leave

behind. Because when we go with preconceived ideas, we see our

ideas.

We think by analytic process.

Then what we need to do is we need to synthesize what our analysis reveals.

Part of the thing that we do is that we break something down in its component

elements and then forget to put them back together again to get the larger

picture. Ah, yes.

Well, that's our science.

Science is the reductionist aspect of things. Somehow, if you analyze all the

parts, you've got the whole, but of course you miss something that's bigger,

you can never get the whole by just adding the parts back together again.

that's really true.

Science has come full circle and realized... that just dealing with

knowledge and the validation of objective knowledge is giving them an

picture of the universe.

And they can't solve some of the problems that they wanted to solve with

incomplete picture. So all of a sudden consciousnesses start creeping back into

scientific approaches to the world. And now consciousness studies are like some

of the biggest things even in physics.

Theoretical physicists are...

knocking their brains on this issue of consciousness, because the subjective

element has now been reintroduced into science.

Now, consciousness doesn't operate just in a three -dimensional world, or a four

-dimensional world.

In fact, we live in an 11 -dimensional universe, which is mind -blowing in

itself, and I have a strong suspicion that consciousness has an influence

all of those dimensions.

If it sends a projection of itself out into those dimensions, then...

it's going to end up having all sorts of things generated in the universe.

And the shadows of those projections are going to appear in the form of some of

the geometrical shapes that we see.

I was interested not just in simple circle formations but other more

versions and thinking, well, how could these be created?

I was very interested in the kinds of shapes that were coming up and how they

seemed to be variations, if you like, on a theme.

And one of the things I realized was it seemed that the shapes that we're seeing

were actually shadows of, shall we say, three -dimensional objects or maybe even

higher, four -dimensional objects.

For example, if you've got a ball or a sphere and you shine a light on it, the

projection, the shadow, is one dimension less.

It's going to be an ellipse or it's going to be a circle.

In a similar way, there's a way of holding a cube.

in such a way that the projection, the shadow, appears as a hexagon.

And it appeared to me that these formations, they were a combination of a

of things.

They clearly seem to be being generated under the influence of some kind of

field, gravitational field.

Whatever it was that was being applied had its origins, had its source, if you

like, not just in this three -dimensional world. It seems...

to have been a shadow, if you like, of a higher -dimensional object or a higher

-dimensional construct.

If there is some higher consciousness or whatever, interaction from a higher

dimension that we're not aware of, what we're seeing is we're effectively seeing

the wake that's been left behind by the object as it's gone through our

dimension. Say, for instance, if you imagine a speedboat whizzing around the

bay, you'll get awake with the water behind it where it's disturbed it.

Now, if you don't see that boat, you're just seeing what's left behind.

Now, if that object is in the fourth dimension or the fifth dimension or

whatever that we can't see, all we're seeing is the aspect left in our

dimension.

Basically, if you look at this from a cross -sectional view, it's

actually a pencil.

Now, in one dimension, all you see is like a little line.

contracting two dimensions you just see a hexagon expanding and contracting of

course three dimensions you can actually see the shape going through now if you

imagine this is our world this could be some entity from a different dimension

passing through and we're basically seeing in our 3d universe the image of

it so take it one step further looking at it from a crop circle point of view

you imagine this is poking through, the actual shape here is a tetrahedron

with a sphere on each tip.

As it more comes into view, you can then end up with the Barbary

Castle formation.

And if you rotate that round, you'll actually see this particular shape,

something like...

That where you can see the point there the two points there and that point is

off centered there as it rotates round Obviously Barbary Castle it would be in

the center. So you'd be looking at it straight on Now if you've then got two

these shapes You'll see the second one is starting to spin in

and Interlock with the first one and then you get this shape which appeared

Etchelhampton the central circle and the six circles around it.

If you then continue twisting them around, like that,

that shape actually appeared up north.

It was sort of an off -centred Star of David type formation.

Obviously, if I run it as a continuous animation, you can see how

the lock locks together.

I want to put some of the more up -to -date formations in there, because I'm

convinced, this will be another aspect of the genuine phenomena, because you'll

find all the genuine ones probably interlock to other formations.

So although you're looking at lots of different formations, you're actually

looking at a single aspect or different aspects of a single higher dimensional

shape, which is just going through our universe.

So when the single small Julius at Chiseldon, south of Swindon,

discovered Friday morning, the second,

the floor lay is very, very beautiful.

And the plants you can see are under here, breaking into this

circle. It's very intricate.

And spiraling around clockwise.

And then it leaves over the top once more.

Continuing around the circumference of the initial circle.

And then once it's reached here, right into the next one.

And so on.

Down through the chain.

In the 17th century, people, when confronted with these shapes, called

either fairy rings or mowing devils or strange markings in the ground. And they

were absolutely convinced it was done by either the devil or infernal spirit or

witchcraft. Because that was the mindset of the time.

Anything that was outside the norm was obvious that it was done by the devil,

because that's all they could see.

And it was obvious it was done by witchcraft.

because that was the way they saw things.

So now, when something out of the ordinary comes, well, it's obvious that

hoax, that it's man -made.

I think hoaxes are indeed part of the phenomenon in that they keep it a

That is, it's always possible to say, oh, I know this or that was done by

somebody, they're all done by somebody.

And so people who don't particularly want to think about it have an easy way

out. and that every phenomenon should allow that so people don't it shouldn't

so challenging and you can't avoid it if you want to avoid you can say i know

it's a hoax and get off the subject i accept that hoaxes exist i don't believe

every single thing that appears in the field is a genuine thing but a hoaxing

doesn't explain the phenomena if hoaxing offered an answer

to what goes on in our field year in year out Then, okay. But it doesn't.

These things are happening all over the world.

They're happening all over Britain.

They've been happening for, what?

Since the late 60s, early 70s. They've been documented since the 70s. You know,

you're talking 30 years.

These guys were kids.

Who was doing them then?

We've been having formations for 10 years. Are you telling me that people

every summer for 10 years?

have been going out night after night after night creating formations.

I mean, it doesn't make any sense, does it?

And where do they practise?

Where do they practise?

Where's the practise one?

You know, they don't practise. There's never a half -finished one.

No mistake.

You know, I mean, it just doesn't... That doesn't make sense.

And how do they get away with it? How are they not caught? How have they done

it? If anyone said they'd done it, I'd be very interested to know how it was

done.

Because I can't at the moment see any way in which this could be done

by the old stomping out teams.

And when you get the real masterpieces, the hoaxes sort of fall away and they

just stand back in admiration like everybody else.

And these masterpieces, there's never a blunder in them.

Now, something incredibly ambitious and very elaborate.

And if you find any stupid mistake in them, it's an unforgiving medium. If you

fall over in that wheat crop, that wheat's not going to stand up again

Saying that people have been going out for years and years, all over the

country, all over the world. I mean, how many people are we talking about?

And what kind of an obsession have they got?

You know, I mean, they go out in rain.

They go out in all weathers, in crops like oilseed rape, which stinks, covers

you in yellow. It's a horrible crop to be in.

The lack of being caught, the lack of blunders, you don't see a half -finished

masterpiece. As the cock crows, they will have to pack up tools.

They all give the impression of being done in one go.

They're not spot -on accurate, but they've got a rhythm to them, like an

would do.

But then you look at it from afar, and when you go on an airplane and you see

the whole thing, you see that it's actually not just a splodge in the

it's very specific.

shape, a design, and it's a symbolic design, and therefore it has a meaning

it. It carries an inner meaning.

It carries a metaphysical.

It's a metaphysical thing. It tells us the meaning beyond the physical.

Each circle is an invitation to look into the meaning of the symbol, and

therefore you're made to look at all these wonderful, wonderful teachings.

In all directions.

And suddenly your mind is encompassing many, many different aspects.

It has an effect on the person.

You recover your sense of awe, your sense of wonder.

A feeling of awe leads to a feeling of appreciation, of gratitude.

You begin to have a feeling of reverence towards the whole, towards the greater.

These things are footprints of intelligences, and through the

characteristics of the phenomenon which come forward each year, we're being

shown characteristics of the particular kind of intelligence which these...

Even the word being is... These beings, even that

is inadequate.

And so we're being given...

some detailed signs of the nature of this intelligence, which is undoubtedly

very compassionate and understanding and also educationally motivated.

There is something very profound about the shapes of the crop circles that

affect consciousness.

I think there are ways in which we can interact with our environment that can

enhance consciousness, and I think crop circles are part of that. I think that

almost there is a technology behind them and that that technology is

consciousness -enhancing technology.

There's a trickster element.

There's an exceptionally high -level element too, which involves, for

complex mathematics.

and there are multifaceted other elements which we're only just touching

but the focus I've been giving, anyway, has been not so much the formations and

the phenomena, but actually what is the empty space which these are containing.

And what is the essence which these are demonstrating in terms of the effects

of these mysterious intelligences, which even from an advanced

esoteric viewpoint, you can't give a name to it. You can't say, oh, it's

oh, it's ETs, oh, it's the past, oh, it's something else, the collective

unconscious. You can't... That doesn't satisfy the question either. We're left

with this deep pool, this empty...

space into which to fall the question that you get asked what makes crop

circles it is a non -question it's an impossible question because i'm not sure

necessarily that there even is a source i've got this funny feeling it's some

weird feedback they're created almost spontaneously

by the interest in them and yet by someone... We'll never know. You'll

to point A.

It's a loop. I bet you if you could, if you could try and trace it back, you'd

never get to the answer. You'd just go round and round and it's almost like

they're created from nowhere out of nothing like everything is.

I'm sure there's a dimensionality to this which we are just not capable of

seeing at the moment.

It's obviously clear that the circle makers are going to great trouble to...

keep these designs coming down and if you assume that there is some kind of

in here it's not just nice designs but there's some sort of code then they're

obviously putting in a lot of code into into the system here and if it is

code which surely it must be in some way um there's a lot of unraveling to

be done at some future date

I think there are myriad communities, intelligences, civilizations

up there, and I think it's reasonable to say that the majority of

them are fully aware of planet Earth and

its divinities and miracles and charms and

its madnesses and follies.

I think we're in the early stages of a process

of universal intercultural mingling.

The issue is it's got to be done very, very gradually in homeopathic amounts.

We actually develop, amongst other things, a certain immunity to the

destructive influence of incredible positive energy.

coming our way when we open up to the other beings in the

universe in which we live. I think they do know that their

material intervention in tangible terms would cause such disruption

to our culture that we would unravel and fragment very

quickly and they don't want that.

So I believe this is one reason that they're playing very gently with us.

And it's certainly a reason why they're playing

with those groups and individuals who

wish, who choose, who volunteer to...

come and participate.

I mean, you know, traditionally, what do we think in our culture?

They go and knock on the door of number 10 Downing Street. They go and visit the

White House. Well, they'd be stupid!

Do we have to be told that?

I mean, the last way anybody with any kind of wisdom and

full historic understanding of...

the state of planet Earth, the last way they would attempt to make ameliorative

changes would be to initiate it at government level.

That would be the kiss of death.

And they do that.

One of the possible reasons why all this farce is going on is that they're

studying us.

Because, obviously, if you were a god or an ET or something like that, you would

be sincerely asking the question, why can't these humans wake up and stop this

suicide process they're on? What is it that causes them to continually make

difficulty for themselves and kill each other and cause so much pain?

And so you could see it as a research project by these beings to...

to provoke us with the stimulus of uh you know just putting

it in front of us and then to study all the ways in which we avoid truth

being put straight in front of our face you know because they're getting it

they're getting all these avoidant strategies blocking strategies

confusion you know if you were if you were a cosmic social psychologist it

be a wonderful uh microscope into the psyche of humanity and then and if that

were the only justification for this phenomenon that itself would be

i think i think that they've been looking at us for a long time and

oh god

How long do we have to sit back here and watch these clowns screw

themselves up?

At what point are we going to be allowed to just move in and tickle them and

persuade them and seduce them forward? At what point can we break

this terrible pattern?

Are we going to watch this beautiful blue planet

Screw itself up, finally. Do we have to watch this?

Can we go in?

And now they're coming in.

Now, clearly, you know, because we are who we are, we want

spaceships on the White House lawn.

At one point, I think...

being involved in this I thought I kind of saw the circle makers as this huge

intelligence out there that had all the answers that was trying to teach us

something truly profound and and in a way I think that's partially true but

way I see it now is that kind of we're playing this game together that there's

kind of this dance going on and it and it a mutual exploration of what is

possible through the relationship that we have, through the kind of

communication that we have.

is very strange to us and maybe is very strange to them as well, who knows? But

I kind of more see it now as not this kind of all -encompassing intelligence

that has all these answers that they're trying to teach us, but more of it being

this wonderful dance of two intelligences together and just pushing

and the boundaries of what's possible and exploring together what would be

possible through an interaction or a communication between the two.

I know that this is interactive and I know

there is a communication and I know that

I am shown which way to

go and while on the one hand this might sound like God speaks through me,

I don't see it. that way at all and I know many, many,

many, many, many people in their work around the crop circles who are

nudges, encouragements, directions, clues,

hints to draw them forward.

In the early 90s, we tried a series of experiments using a psychic channeler,

just to see what would happen, to take messages to whatever the circle -making

forces might be.

And as soon as we started those experiments, I mean, I think on the very

day, we had a big meeting at this friend's house, in the field closest to

house as you could get.

The first formation of the year in our county appeared.

And we thought, what are the odds of that?

And what we found was that the next couple of years went on. We all started

have these synchronicities.

Three or four of us saw balls of light.

And eventually this kind of work culminated. We did an experiment where

us... meditated up on a hillside and asked for a crop formation and others

done this on other occasions too and we had a certain shape that we thought

might arise as a result of that and lo and behold that very night exactly that

design appeared in the fields of Sussex you know I can't prove that to the

outside world but we had proved to ourselves that it was an interactive

phenomenon the more you give towards it it will give back

For someone who's studying radionuclides, they will get progression

study. For someone who's studying mathematics, they will get progression

that. For someone who's working psychologically, they will get

that. In whatever way we map our reality, we will get progression

into it, and...

And no one individual possesses the answer, although we're all progressing

clues. Oh, well, you go by, you judge the intent by what the actual effect is,

don't you?

If people say, what are crop circles?

If you ask about a person, what sort of person he is, it says in the Bible, by

their fruits ye shall know them. It's what they do, not what they say.

And so to observe, to find what the crop circles are for, you really have to

observe what they do.

How they change people and in what direction.

Are they satanic? No, there's no evil or harm in them at all, that's all I can

see. They never hurt anybody.

They never harmed anybody.

They've only inspired people.

Some people have been disappointed by them, or by some aspect of them, but

that's their own personal business.

They haven't hurt anybody.

I think...

that the crop circles maybe are occurring now because there are

huge

universal time cogs about to clonk

over. And this has been in the stars

for a long time.

We've been blissfully, stupidly unaware of what we were sitting on. But they

know.

And I think the crop circles have been brought now because they have been

saying, these guys are going to miss the boat.

This is one of the most exciting things. They don't know what's going on. How

can we bring them forward? How can we open their eyes? How can we open their

hearts?

And I put my money on the fact that we'll have contact when

we are sufficiently grown up and evolved to be able to accept

it. And we have a very accelerated program of learning

to be able to accept it and to be integrated into a wider

and heavenly.

scheme of things I think we're on the edge of it I

speak as an optimist