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( theme music playing )
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( both laughing )
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It's bigger
than I thought.
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( both laugh )
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Jimmy:
This is nice. This is nice.
This is fuckin' nice.
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This is nice.
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( shaking spray paint can )
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Oh, man.
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- G-Bo.
- Yeah?
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- ( laughs )
- How ya doin', Pop?
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Oh, man.
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Now we're in room 104.
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- What a trip.
- Great set.
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What a trip.
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( rock music playing )
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Oh, look at this.
This is good stuff here too.
Look at this, G-Bo.
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Oh, my God. They got
all kinds of stuff over here.
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There's a lot of dynamics
with this room.
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Oh, G-Bo! Look at this.
Look at this.
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( pats box spring )
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- Yeah, that's good.
- Perfect.
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It's got like
a canvas texture to it.
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Perfect.
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Jimmy:
If you had told me
a year ago,
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where we were
and where we are,
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that this is the deal,
I would've never believed it.
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- OK, so I have a thought.
- What?
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I think if we flip
these babies around
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and throw--
get our paint on 'em,
they're gonna dry,
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and then we can
flip 'em back around
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and put our-- our strings on
while they're kinda drying.
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'Cause at some point
I'm gonna put it on the wall.
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OK.
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These are nice and light,
this is perfect.
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- The box springs are light.
- They're like a canvas,
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so the objective
is to use the box springs
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so we have
two separate pieces--
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Gianni Arone,
Jimmy Ray Flynn--
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and then everything else
is up for grabs.
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Yeah, nice.
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Uh, you're not
gonna hit the edges?
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I'm just going...
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- Hit those edges.
- You hit those edges.
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- OK.
- I didn't mean it for real.
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( laughs )
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- Hey.
- What?
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You said I could hit the edges.
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- No, leave it.
- No, baby, come on.
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- They gotta have the balance.
- No, they don't.
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- No, you don't.
- Just let me finish it.
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All right.
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Yeah, I'm gonna have to wait
till this dries.
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Yeah, it's gotta
dry a little bit.
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Do you wanna do like...
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a lamp, or you want
to do something else?
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Because I'm gonna be doing
some collage stuff.
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Gianni:
I'm not an artist
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who is formally trained
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and who is doing oils
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and, like, rendering
lifelike drawings.
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I just like makin'.
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Jimmy:
Looks good.
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Did I spell "experiencing"
right? Dad?
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Oh, shit. Is this, like,
a spelling thing?
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- I don't know.
- "Experien..."
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Can't tell.
I can't remember.
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Spelling's not my thing.
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I think so.
Jimi Hendrix Experience.
Let's see...
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- I don't know.
- Yeah, it's fine.
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Jimmy:
I work fast
and in the moment,
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I stay in the process.
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( Jimmy laughing )
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I like that. I like
when you do that shit.
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That's, like, my favorite,
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when you start
spoofing on heads.
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Gianni:
I just like getting into it,
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and I love installations.
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So to be able to use
the parameters of the room...
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because it's an installation.
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I like that. That's great.
We gotta chop that wall up.
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That's a piece.
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Jimmy:
I am his biggest fan.
I'm his number--
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I love a lot of artists,
but he's-- he's the best.
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Gianni, you picked out
some really good things.
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This is great.
It's got tape on it, too.
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Yeah, that's
the one I liked.
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- You keep this one.
- No, use it.
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- Keep it.
- Use it.
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OK.
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Jimmy:
He kinda like inspired me.
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We had talked
about collaborating
for a long time,
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but there's something
that happened this year
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with Gianni dealing with his--
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I call it "mental wellness,"
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that allowed it to flow
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in a way that
didn't feel forced.
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I said, "Hey, man,
you wanna do this?"
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"Yeah, let's do it."
We started doing it.
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I like this, G-Bo.
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I like the two ones.
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- Yeah?
- Yeah.
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I like it.
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This is like
my favorite material.
Yeah.
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Jimmy:
Can you get out of that light
for a second, please?
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- Yeah, you.
- ( camera clicks )
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Tell me that
doesn't look fucking cool.
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Yeah.
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Gianni:
I know a lot of my friends
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have fractured relationships
with their dads.
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Younger Jimmy:
My buddies.
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Say, "Hi, Mom."
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Gianni:
As a little kid, I just
remember a present father.
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He just created, like,
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a nurturing environment
for creativity.
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He would put on,
like, Tracy Chapman and music
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and we would get pots and pans
and play the drums.
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Jimmy:
Happy birthday.
I'm gonna go now.
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I want you to give me a kiss.
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( kiss )
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And he's grown into
my best friend.
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It wasn't always like that.
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Jimmy:
Ahh, yeah,
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it really didn't start to happen
until the friggin'--
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started with
the drugs and alcohol.
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I mean, that's when it just
became a whole 'nother animal.
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That's when it started to be
this clear kind of... uh-oh.
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( paint can rattling )
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You gotta be careful
with the spray paint, though.
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- I know.
- All right.
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Gianni:
Yeah, it was
shortly after high school
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when I just opened up
to something and I just
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( snaps fingers )
went in. I mean,
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you go from smokin' weed
after high school
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to next year doin' meth,
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- like smokin' crystal meth,
- Ohh.
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- which is just like a--
- The fuckin' worst.
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Which is like a epidemic
of a drug,
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and took me to places
I thought I'd never go to
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emotionally, physically,
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mentally, spiritually,
psychologically.
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It'll steal your friggin' soul.
I don't give a shit,
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I hear him say the word "meth,"
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and I get like, "I'm goin'
to another place now,"
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'cause I just--
it's, like, evil.
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Gianni:
Not only did I do meth,
but I did LSD,
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I did mushrooms,
I smoked weed.
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I smoked heroin once.
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I went down
the pipeline of,
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"What does it do?
How does it affect me?
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Let's try it."
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I was microdosing LSD for,
like, a year straight.
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And, like, that has a huge
effect on your brain chemistry,
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and I started hearing voices.
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I'm gonna start my collaging.
I'm gonna collage over here.
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I'm gonna work over here.
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You know, it's interesting
we're doing this now,
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we're literally coming up
on the year anniversary.
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Let me just back it up
a second.
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Younger Jimmy:
Make a little wish, OK?
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The night Gianni was born,
I remember him coming out
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and watching the life
come into his body.
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He just looked at me.
It was surreal.
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Cut to December fifth...
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of last year.
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He came to my house
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in a full-blown
psychotic episode.
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I didn't know
who the fuck he was.
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We had this thing
literally in the backyard,
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we were sitting there,
we were talking
across from each other,
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and he was like
in a full-blown episode.
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At one point he said to me,
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"Don't worry,
I'm not gonna kill you."
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And I thought,
"Is this motherfucker
thinkin' about killin' me?"
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And I was petrified.
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I said, "Gianni,
I'm gonna go in the house
and get some water."
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I went in the house
and I called the cops.
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And I said, "You gotta come
and get my son."
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Ahh...
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All I know is, it was like
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the hardest thing
I've ever had to do in my life.
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The cops come,
Gianni got in the car
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and, you know,
they took him
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to the fucking psych unit
and shit,
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and we went there,
first night I go in,
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he's like fuckin'
doing cartwheels
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or backflips in the thing,
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he's head-butting me,
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he's really angry,
really agitated.
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And then we found out
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that he's got
a dual diagnosis.
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Couple that with the addiction--
it's a mental illness.
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So now you're dealing with
a whole 'nother thing.
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- How ya doin', G?
- Eh.
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Yeah, it's...
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- It's all over the place.
- Yeah.
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All right, well,
it's your thing, baby.
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Let's put a whole series
together...
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Gianni:
I've been diagnosed
bipolar I and II,
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schizoaffective,
schizophrenic.
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I don't know
if my mental illness was
caused from my drug use--
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Is it chemically induced
mental illness,
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or is actually something
that's biological?
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Or something
that onset later?
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They would diagnose me,
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and I'd do the meds
for a little bit,
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then I'd take myself off 'em
because I was just like,
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I'm an alcoholic
and I'm an addict,
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and I like feeling high,
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and when I'm unmedicated
and I go into mania,
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I feel high from that.
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I like feeling a little off,
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I like feeling
a little weird,
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I like feeling a little askew
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and not totally
bolted to the ground.
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Can you throw me
one of those rags real quick?
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Like the big hand?
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It's a little too big
for my taste, but--
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Can you throw me
one of those rags, please?
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Maybe it is
too big of a hand.
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Wanna have a seat?
Wanna sit down?
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G-Bo.
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Wanna sit down?
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I don't like it at all
right now.
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There's no question
in my mind
you're gonna get there.
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No, I know, I'm not
worried about getting there.
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You jumped in,
the paint was still wet...
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- You know what I mean?
- Looks like a big chicken.
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I don't see a chicken
at all.
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I just see like
a fuckin'...
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- A blob.
- I don't see a blob,
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I just see a very exaggerated,
grotesque...
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If I were you,
one of the things I would do is,
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I would hit your canvas
so there's kind of
a little bit more white to it,
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and then as you go over it,
the other things will pop out.
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- Yeah, I agree.
- Right?
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So just hit it again.
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What are you doin'?
Why don't you hit it
with the roller?
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'Cause I don't like
the roller.
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Ohh, Gianni,
the paint's gonna
take forever to dry.
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Ohh.
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He's not fuckin' listenin'
to me.
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The way you're doing that,
man, it's gonna take
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a long time to dry.
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These are lessons
that I was supposed to learn
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about, like, backin' off,
246
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not micromanaging.
247
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Yeah, man,
I would just hit that.
248
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Hit the edge too.
249
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Yeah, there you go,
brother.
250
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Yeah, man, that's much better.
251
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Gianni:
For me, being born
into a human body
252
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on planet Earth
didn't make sense to me.
253
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I'm like, what am I--
what is this?
254
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What's this night/day,
love/hate, good/bad,
255
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all this polarity,
all this separation?
256
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This doesn't make sense
to my inherent nature
and my inherent being
257
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of oneness and completeness
and, like, a unified whole.
258
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I feel fractured and separated
and alone and weird,
259
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and I've always been fascinated
with the moment of death,
260
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and so I...
261
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wanted to meet death
a couple times on my own sword.
262
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Maybe I'll just do
a big horse on it.
263
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For me, I had...
264
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two attempts on my life,
265
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one was when I was younger,
266
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and then the last one
was more intentional.
267
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Gonna wait
for it to dry.
268
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I had an episode
that I can only describe
269
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as losing the letters
and the numbers.
270
00:13:58,568 --> 00:14:01,485
I couldn't articulate myself,
and therefore,
271
00:14:01,568 --> 00:14:03,527
when I came out
of the psychosis
272
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I couldn't relate to anyone.
273
00:14:04,944 --> 00:14:07,652
And I created this rig,
274
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and I was about
to turn on the switch,
275
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and then there was
a knock on my door,
276
00:14:12,527 --> 00:14:16,068
and my ex-girlfriend Sunshine
knocked on-- opened the door
277
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and saved my life,
called my dad.
278
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Jimmy:
As he's telling you
he's whatever,
279
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I have to respect
what he's saying,
280
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'cause it's real for him.
281
00:14:24,944 --> 00:14:27,985
There was a point
when he was either
282
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in the hospital
or just getting out,
283
00:14:30,193 --> 00:14:32,652
I said, "You know something?
I will talk to you,
284
00:14:32,735 --> 00:14:34,276
but I won't talk
to your psychosis."
285
00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,777
So for him
to tell you this story,
286
00:14:37,860 --> 00:14:39,985
and for me to listen to it,
whatever,
287
00:14:40,068 --> 00:14:41,276
I have to remind myself
288
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they're very real for him.
289
00:14:43,110 --> 00:14:45,193
I don't relate to it,
you know?
290
00:14:45,276 --> 00:14:46,860
I mean, I don't fuckin'
relate to it,
291
00:14:46,944 --> 00:14:48,860
but it's real for him,
so I gotta respect it.
292
00:14:48,944 --> 00:14:50,568
Yeah. Well.
293
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- A horse.
- Yeah.
294
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( both laugh )
295
00:14:55,902 --> 00:14:57,276
Gianni: Yeah,
296
00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,276
today I want to live,
like, uh,
297
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when I had those
suicide attempts,
298
00:15:02,902 --> 00:15:04,735
I didn't feel like
299
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this life that I'm living today
was possible
300
00:15:07,068 --> 00:15:09,860
or even on my radar,
so more will be revealed
301
00:15:09,944 --> 00:15:12,151
if you stick around.
302
00:15:15,068 --> 00:15:17,235
Today, like,
I like peace of mind.
303
00:15:17,318 --> 00:15:20,110
For the most part if someone
asks me how I'm doing,
304
00:15:20,193 --> 00:15:22,985
it's like, not too high,
not too low,
305
00:15:23,068 --> 00:15:25,694
not a lot going on upstairs,
it's just quiet.
306
00:15:25,777 --> 00:15:28,443
This is the first time
in my life I've felt like that,
307
00:15:28,527 --> 00:15:30,485
but it's two components:
308
00:15:30,568 --> 00:15:33,193
being sober
and being med-compliant.
309
00:15:33,276 --> 00:15:35,944
You got so much friggin' paint
on it. ( laughs )
310
00:15:36,026 --> 00:15:38,443
You got a ton of paint
on this, Gianni.
311
00:15:38,527 --> 00:15:40,443
- Yeah.
- Ohh.
312
00:15:40,527 --> 00:15:42,193
Jimmy:
I myself had a--
313
00:15:42,276 --> 00:15:44,151
I don't want to call it
a suicide attempt,
314
00:15:44,235 --> 00:15:45,902
but I ended up in a 72-hour hold
in a psych unit
315
00:15:45,985 --> 00:15:50,318
back in whatever year,
it was 1989, '90.
316
00:15:50,402 --> 00:15:53,276
Gianni's mom and I
were going through
317
00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,944
a really hard time
and we split up,
318
00:15:57,026 --> 00:15:59,110
and I don't want
to get into details,
319
00:15:59,193 --> 00:16:01,443
but I never forget
this friggin' guy
320
00:16:01,527 --> 00:16:04,110
sittin' across from me
and saying,
321
00:16:04,193 --> 00:16:07,402
"You realize you're never gonna
see your kids again, right?"
322
00:16:07,485 --> 00:16:09,610
And it was like, boom.
323
00:16:10,860 --> 00:16:12,860
Sound. Be ready.
324
00:16:12,944 --> 00:16:14,777
( power tool whirs )
325
00:16:14,860 --> 00:16:17,652
I'm from that generation of men
326
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where you didn't go to therapy.
327
00:16:19,068 --> 00:16:21,360
When you got
into those places,
328
00:16:21,443 --> 00:16:23,193
you just friggin'
toughed it out.
329
00:16:23,276 --> 00:16:25,610
But you know what?
It doesn't always work that way.
330
00:16:25,694 --> 00:16:30,318
When you're in crisis,
when you're in that state,
331
00:16:30,402 --> 00:16:32,902
you have to find a way
to ask for help.
332
00:16:32,985 --> 00:16:35,944
You have to find a way
to get yourself into
333
00:16:36,026 --> 00:16:38,318
a safe environment
with professionals,
334
00:16:38,402 --> 00:16:41,777
and there's people out there
that will help you
335
00:16:41,860 --> 00:16:44,068
take one foot
in front of the other.
336
00:16:44,151 --> 00:16:45,276
Yeah, it takes
a lot of courage.
337
00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:46,610
It takes guts.
338
00:16:46,694 --> 00:16:48,652
And on some level
I have a lot of guilt,
339
00:16:48,735 --> 00:16:50,527
and I think sometimes
my behavior
340
00:16:50,610 --> 00:16:53,318
in what I did at that time,
341
00:16:53,402 --> 00:16:54,735
when I hurt myself--
342
00:16:54,819 --> 00:16:56,527
Gianni was like
seven years old.
343
00:16:56,610 --> 00:16:59,610
I made mistakes, man,
I did some things,
344
00:16:59,694 --> 00:17:01,652
and I can't take
any of it back,
345
00:17:01,735 --> 00:17:03,860
but I realize,
you know what,
346
00:17:03,944 --> 00:17:07,110
it's just part of
what's happened in my life.
347
00:17:10,193 --> 00:17:13,860
Gianni:
Oh, yeah, man, that looks good!
348
00:17:13,944 --> 00:17:15,860
That's dope.
349
00:17:15,944 --> 00:17:17,110
Fuck yeah.
350
00:17:17,193 --> 00:17:19,193
What do you think? G-Bo.
351
00:17:19,276 --> 00:17:20,652
Oh, yeah, dude.
352
00:17:23,443 --> 00:17:25,527
I like the way
that hangs and shit.
353
00:17:25,610 --> 00:17:26,819
- You like that?
- Yeah, man.
354
00:17:26,902 --> 00:17:28,402
Jimmy:
Looks pretty good.
355
00:17:28,485 --> 00:17:32,694
I'm faced with a little bit
of a decision.
356
00:17:33,985 --> 00:17:35,235
Revolver Head?
357
00:17:35,318 --> 00:17:37,652
Gianni:
No Revolver Head, no.
358
00:17:37,735 --> 00:17:40,026
See how the Grotjahn looks.
359
00:17:42,652 --> 00:17:44,276
I love this fucking guy.
360
00:17:45,610 --> 00:17:46,985
I'm not sure
if that's gonna work.
361
00:17:47,068 --> 00:17:48,777
- There's too much color.
- Yeah.
362
00:17:50,026 --> 00:17:51,652
Ahh.
363
00:17:51,735 --> 00:17:53,443
I don't think
that's gonna work.
364
00:17:53,527 --> 00:17:55,819
- I like the donut.
- I like the donut too.
365
00:17:55,902 --> 00:18:00,610
Yeah, this is-- this is not
gonna work like that.
366
00:18:03,443 --> 00:18:06,902
Gianni:
For me, the mainstay has been
this mantra I've had
367
00:18:06,985 --> 00:18:09,568
which is "Process is king."
And I find that, like,
368
00:18:09,652 --> 00:18:11,276
in the moment of creating,
369
00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:13,235
no matter what
your mental state is,
370
00:18:13,318 --> 00:18:15,985
there's some magical
machination
371
00:18:16,068 --> 00:18:18,485
that happens in the moment
of doing something.
372
00:18:18,568 --> 00:18:20,485
Whether you're hitting the keys
on the piano,
373
00:18:20,568 --> 00:18:22,485
whether you're a dancer and
you're in the moment of flight,
374
00:18:22,568 --> 00:18:24,777
whether you're hitting
the canvas for the first time,
375
00:18:24,860 --> 00:18:26,944
and it's just
that movement of the brush
376
00:18:27,026 --> 00:18:28,485
on the canvas.
377
00:18:28,568 --> 00:18:30,610
In that moment,
that's where it is,
378
00:18:30,694 --> 00:18:31,985
that's where it's at.
379
00:18:33,527 --> 00:18:35,068
Is that a Christmas tree?
380
00:18:35,151 --> 00:18:38,402
These weird little trees
I've been drawing lately...
381
00:18:38,485 --> 00:18:40,360
that bring me joy.
382
00:18:40,443 --> 00:18:42,944
Gianni:
No matter what my state is,
383
00:18:43,026 --> 00:18:44,610
I can go to that
and have that
384
00:18:44,694 --> 00:18:46,235
as my, like-- phtt!--
385
00:18:46,318 --> 00:18:47,944
centered, boom,
know what to do.
386
00:18:48,026 --> 00:18:49,902
That's the gratifying thing,
387
00:18:49,985 --> 00:18:51,443
that's why I do art.
388
00:18:51,527 --> 00:18:54,276
There's restraint
and pause
389
00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:55,777
and peace now,
390
00:18:55,860 --> 00:18:57,860
where I can go to a work,
391
00:18:57,944 --> 00:18:59,527
work on it,
392
00:18:59,610 --> 00:19:02,068
feel that it's OK
to stop there,
393
00:19:02,151 --> 00:19:04,568
just be like,
"OK, we're good."
394
00:19:05,735 --> 00:19:07,235
( sighs )
395
00:19:10,235 --> 00:19:12,235
I kinda like
where mine's at
right now.
396
00:19:12,318 --> 00:19:14,318
You gonna leave it there?
It's done?
397
00:19:14,402 --> 00:19:15,402
Kinda. Yeah. For now.
398
00:19:15,485 --> 00:19:17,402
Jimmy:
What about the head?
399
00:19:17,485 --> 00:19:19,985
- I like it like that.
- Really?
400
00:19:20,068 --> 00:19:21,819
I just like the silhouette
of the head.
401
00:19:21,902 --> 00:19:24,193
I don't want to put eyes on it
or anything.
402
00:19:24,276 --> 00:19:27,777
I got the good jawline
on the horse head.
403
00:19:27,860 --> 00:19:31,985
Gianni:
Last year around this time,
like, I was scared,
404
00:19:32,068 --> 00:19:35,443
I thought I wouldn't
be able to do art again,
but you just do art.
405
00:19:35,527 --> 00:19:38,360
I did art about
not being able
to do art again.
406
00:19:38,443 --> 00:19:40,944
I did a piece of art
'cause I was frustrated
407
00:19:41,026 --> 00:19:43,694
'cause it didn't feel right,
but I still did it.
408
00:19:43,777 --> 00:19:47,610
And now I kinda like the piece,
looking at it a year later.
409
00:19:47,694 --> 00:19:49,819
But in the time,
I was just so angry
410
00:19:49,902 --> 00:19:52,026
I just felt like,
"This is foreign to me,
411
00:19:52,110 --> 00:19:54,276
I don't know what to do,"
but you persist,
412
00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:57,110
you continue to do your craft
a little bit each day.
413
00:19:57,193 --> 00:19:59,610
And if you really love it,
you're gonna be
inherently consistent
414
00:19:59,694 --> 00:20:01,568
because you're gonna
want to do it each day.
415
00:20:01,652 --> 00:20:03,735
And the results are gonna vary,
416
00:20:03,819 --> 00:20:06,777
but process is king--
stay in the process.
417
00:20:06,860 --> 00:20:08,276
Stay in the process.
418
00:20:08,360 --> 00:20:11,026
Both:
Creativity doesn't know
what time it is.
419
00:20:11,110 --> 00:20:13,068
That's why we want
to sleep here.
420
00:20:13,151 --> 00:20:15,318
I get up
in the middle of the night
and work on a collage
421
00:20:15,402 --> 00:20:17,944
'cause creativity
doesn't know what time it is.
422
00:20:41,819 --> 00:20:43,735
- ( both laugh )
- Go ahead, hit it.
423
00:20:43,819 --> 00:20:45,985
- I did.
- No, hit it again if you want.
424
00:20:46,068 --> 00:20:49,026
I know you're dying
to make a mark on it.
Go ahead.
425
00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:51,610
Gianni:
These are pretty singular,
426
00:20:51,694 --> 00:20:53,568
but he put on this
"Sweet Dreams" last night...
427
00:20:53,652 --> 00:20:55,985
Because it was on the wall.
428
00:20:56,068 --> 00:20:57,485
and I was like,
"That's awesome."
429
00:20:57,568 --> 00:20:59,110
Somebody in the crew
was kind enough
430
00:20:59,193 --> 00:21:00,652
to put "Sweet Dreams"
on the wall
431
00:21:00,735 --> 00:21:02,652
and I saw it and I said,
"Put it in the piece."
432
00:21:02,735 --> 00:21:05,485
- It's the name of the horse.
- We don't know who it is,
433
00:21:05,568 --> 00:21:07,527
but whoever it is,
we love you. It works.
434
00:21:07,610 --> 00:21:10,235
And I made a little gold mark
on his just now.
435
00:21:10,318 --> 00:21:11,735
He wants to,
like, make marks,
436
00:21:11,819 --> 00:21:13,443
I don't have a problem
with it.
437
00:21:13,527 --> 00:21:15,777
Like, we did this thing,
the Grotjahn thing,
438
00:21:15,860 --> 00:21:17,610
and I said, "Just go hit it,"
439
00:21:17,694 --> 00:21:20,527
and he just did
this little friggin'
whatever-it-is,
440
00:21:20,610 --> 00:21:21,652
and I think it's perfect.
441
00:21:21,735 --> 00:21:23,151
I think the collaboration, too,
442
00:21:23,235 --> 00:21:25,777
is, like, executing
the tone of the room too,
443
00:21:25,860 --> 00:21:30,235
does this wall come together
as a seamless whole?
444
00:21:47,402 --> 00:21:51,193
I, uh, caused
a lot of wreckage
445
00:21:51,276 --> 00:21:52,652
and a lot of pain
446
00:21:52,735 --> 00:21:54,402
and a lot of chaos.
447
00:21:54,485 --> 00:21:58,235
And I'm still
a work in progress, you know,
448
00:21:58,318 --> 00:22:00,151
I'm still really new to this.
449
00:22:00,235 --> 00:22:02,652
But a lot's changed
over the course of the year
450
00:22:02,735 --> 00:22:04,652
because I put in
some intense work
451
00:22:04,735 --> 00:22:07,110
and I've been trying to get--
get sober
452
00:22:07,193 --> 00:22:09,151
and get healthy
for a long time.
453
00:22:09,235 --> 00:22:12,777
And my living amends
to my dad
454
00:22:12,860 --> 00:22:14,985
is to grant him
peace of mind.
455
00:22:15,068 --> 00:22:16,652
It's a lifetime of work,
456
00:22:16,735 --> 00:22:18,610
and it's something
I get to practice--
457
00:22:18,694 --> 00:22:22,151
I have the opportunity
to practice each day.
458
00:22:24,110 --> 00:22:27,568
Jimmy:
I had to, like, learn
about patience, acceptance,
459
00:22:27,652 --> 00:22:29,777
those things
that really test you.
460
00:22:29,860 --> 00:22:31,652
You say you love somebody,
you say whatever,
461
00:22:31,735 --> 00:22:33,860
but until you're in that arena
462
00:22:33,944 --> 00:22:35,735
and you're wrestling
with those beasts and stuff,
463
00:22:35,819 --> 00:22:38,193
that's where you find out
where your character's at.
464
00:22:38,276 --> 00:22:39,944
You know,
at the end of the day,
465
00:22:40,026 --> 00:22:41,610
he's someone that needs help,
he's sick.
466
00:22:41,694 --> 00:22:43,485
I gotta figure out a way
to have a relationship,
467
00:22:43,568 --> 00:22:45,068
but have a boundary,
468
00:22:45,151 --> 00:22:46,944
that I can protect myself
and take care of myself
469
00:22:47,026 --> 00:22:49,735
and my wife and my family.
470
00:22:55,193 --> 00:22:58,485
You know,
maybe part of the thing
about doing this thing
471
00:22:58,568 --> 00:23:00,694
is that I'm hoping,
when somebody sees this,
472
00:23:00,777 --> 00:23:03,402
is that yeah,
there's a lot of pain,
473
00:23:03,485 --> 00:23:05,527
there's a lot of scars,
there's a lot of wounding,
474
00:23:05,610 --> 00:23:08,026
but you know, there is healing
and there is--
475
00:23:08,110 --> 00:23:10,735
there's a light
at the end of the tunnel.
476
00:23:10,819 --> 00:23:15,193
But you gotta do the work,
you gotta do the time.
477
00:23:15,276 --> 00:23:18,735
When you told me the other day
that you trusted me again...
478
00:23:18,819 --> 00:23:22,110
was huge...
that was huge.
479
00:23:22,193 --> 00:23:24,735
- Yeah, but you had to earn it.
- Yeah, I know.
480
00:23:24,819 --> 00:23:26,694
You had to earn it.
481
00:23:26,777 --> 00:23:28,276
And you have.
482
00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:32,652
You know,
trust is a key component
of any relationship.
483
00:23:32,735 --> 00:23:35,402
You don't have trust, man,
you don't have honesty,
484
00:23:35,485 --> 00:23:38,235
you don't have the tenets,
you don't have the foundation,
485
00:23:38,318 --> 00:23:39,985
you don't have anything.
486
00:23:40,068 --> 00:23:41,694
That's what I'm saying,
you know,
487
00:23:41,777 --> 00:23:43,777
some of the stuff
that went on between
you and I,
488
00:23:43,860 --> 00:23:46,235
I just...
it was hard shit.
489
00:23:46,318 --> 00:23:51,652
And... And I know that
everything happens in life
for a reason,
490
00:23:51,735 --> 00:23:55,485
but... there was
a lot of pain there.
491
00:23:55,568 --> 00:23:59,652
But you know,
trusting you is...
492
00:24:06,985 --> 00:24:09,735
- ( voice breaking ) Thank you.
- You're welcome, Papa.
493
00:24:09,819 --> 00:24:11,819
No, really,
fuckin' thanks.
494
00:24:11,902 --> 00:24:14,735
I'm not gonna fuckin' cry
through the whole
fuckin' thing.
495
00:24:14,819 --> 00:24:17,026
- ( laughs )
- Fuck.
496
00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:19,318
Seriously. Shit.
497
00:24:21,860 --> 00:24:23,902
♪ I hope my body's a ghost ♪
498
00:24:23,985 --> 00:24:28,068
♪ I just want
to lay around town ♪
499
00:24:30,068 --> 00:24:32,485
♪ I hope my body's a ghost ♪
500
00:24:32,568 --> 00:24:36,568
♪ I just want
to lay around town ♪
501
00:24:38,777 --> 00:24:42,610
♪ Take cover when
the city burns ♪
502
00:24:42,694 --> 00:24:44,068
♪ Lay low ♪
503
00:24:47,068 --> 00:24:48,568
♪ I love you, brother ♪
504
00:24:48,652 --> 00:24:51,568
♪ Will you shoot me
when they say so? ♪
505
00:24:56,068 --> 00:24:59,110
♪ Take cover when
the city burns ♪
506
00:24:59,193 --> 00:25:01,110
♪ Lay low ♪
507
00:25:03,568 --> 00:25:05,068
♪ I love you, brother ♪
508
00:25:05,151 --> 00:25:08,110
♪ Will you shoot me
when they say so? ♪
509
00:25:14,110 --> 00:25:16,652
♪ I hope my body's a ghost ♪
510
00:25:16,735 --> 00:25:20,110
♪ I just want
to lay around town ♪
511
00:25:27,568 --> 00:25:30,527
MAN: (SINGING)
♪ I know the secret of it all ♪
512
00:25:30,777 --> 00:25:32,485
♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYS) ♪
513
00:25:32,860 --> 00:25:33,944
♪ Longing ♪
514
00:25:35,110 --> 00:25:36,235
♪ Waiting ♪
515
00:25:37,402 --> 00:25:39,402
-♪ You're... ♪
-(SCREAMING)
516
00:25:39,985 --> 00:25:41,110
(SILENCE)
517
00:25:41,443 --> 00:25:44,777
For it is love and love alone,
the rules for aye.
518
00:25:45,193 --> 00:25:47,151
♪ (MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪
519
00:25:49,694 --> 00:25:51,193
♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪
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