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Last time on the Real Housewives of New Jersey reunion.
How old were you when you lost your virginity? I became a man at nine years
I walked in on it. Watch it because she touches your butt.
Sweetie, you got to show up.
I don't think I look like an ape. Do I look like an ape?
You preferred going to jail over Israel?
Do you ever see the four of you hanging out again? Never say never.
Your hands are not clean either.
We were like this then, Melissa.
You went to jail for lying. You're a liar. You set me up.
Hold on, do you think she called the government on you? You do?
And I'm so happy I got that off my chest.
We'll be back in a minute.
When you have that gut feeling, you have that gut feeling. Okay, guys, we're not
talking anymore.
That's crazy.
No wonder you're so angry at me.
Yeah, you're fucking crazy. I learned from the best.
Part two of the Real Housewives of New Jersey reunion starts now.
That is insane.
That's a dangerous person.
Even if she didn't directly go to the government, she had other people do her
dirty work.
I used to say nothing surprises me, but I can't believe that somebody would go
to that extreme just to make themselves look better.
Let's just come back right there.
Deep breath. Thank you.
Help her.
Three, two.
We are back with the Real Housewives of New Jersey.
We've brought in Chris Loretta. Hi, Chris. How you doing? And Joe Gorga. Hi,
Joe.
Before we took a break, there was quite an accusation.
You guys were behind everything, calling the government.
What? Yes.
Now I put her in jail. You feel that Jacqueline was responsible.
Well, not responsible. Let me reframe it.
I feel like she was definitely dabbling in it.
She was speaking to people. Getting information.
No, to people that maybe those certain people then went to the Fed.
Wrong. I wasn't involved in your... Well, I feel like you were.
Jack's an investigator.
You admit that. I'm a fact checker. You're a fact checker. You talk to a lot
people, and so that's why she feels this way. She's not saying that you caused
her to go to federal court. Let me ask this.
I'm curious, with the two of you, if you two think that Jacqueline is capable
of putting Teresa's family in this light.
I wasn't witness to it.
I'm friends with Jacqueline, and all I can tell you is my... How long?
I've been friends with Jacqueline for two and a half years now. Okay.
And I've never seen anything but good come out of her. I only see her as...
were right in the beginning. I only see her as a loyal person who wants to help.
We can say Jacqueline gets upset, Jacqueline gets emotional.
I don't know her to do the thing that she's being accused of. I know I'm not
wrong. I'd love to hear from Chris.
You know, Teresa, I know the truth of what really happened.
Oh, you do?
I do, honestly.
How do you know?
I'm going to explain it to you.
I'm going to explain it to you. You know, I don't like them talking about my
personal business because they don't know.
You're accusing them of being involved. Yeah, but you're going to tell you the
story. So he wants to explain himself or defend his side of the story.
Listen. There's nothing to defend.
The reality is we have a mutual friend. I know you do. Okay? I know. And he
called me up one day and said, hey.
Apparently, there's a real estate dispute. This guy is going to go to the
Why don't we try and get them together so they can make a deal and there'll be
no problems? I said, all right. I didn't call Joe myself.
I called another mutual friend that we have. A couple of days later, he called
me back.
I talked to Joe.
He said, tell him to go f*** himself.
I said, okay.
I called my friend.
Here's the message.
I said, I want nothing to do with this. And that is exactly what happened.
Well, I feel like your wife was involved speaking to him.
Teresa, my wife had nothing to do with it. Chris, I've seen her in action.
I've seen her. She had a lot of people do her dirty work.
Regardless of what happened, at what point do you take responsibility for
you did?
Chris, I took responsibility.
The investigation started way before when we were friends.
When she got out of prison, they said to her, this is what happened.
These are your people that are. I don't know. They kind of said they mentioned
her name, that she was step by step what she was going through. I heard you were
doing that.
You used to hold on you used to call me and say she's gonna get more time. She's
going back in She's not gonna get I did hear that and I said, how would you know
that you were feeding me all the information? Okay, like for what
Go ahead Like what I know anything you told me like your husband went to the
prison with his mother and they talked about getting a divorce And who's
parents were fighting there was a war that you would feed me so much
You girls should run for the f***ing hills. She sucks.
She will tell all your secrets. Look at me in my eyes. I warned you first.
She sucks.
You're talking about personal family s***.
Go ahead, look at me with your crazy f***ing eyes.
Oh, now you're getting upset because I'm speaking to her. That's right, because
you make me like, you're really gross. Because you're trying to twist all these
lies on me. I'm not twisting s***. When I tell the truth, you're all heated,
aren't you? Let's talk about it again.
I'm not twisting s***.
You were disgusting trying to say she's going to get more time.
Excuse me? You used to say that. No, I couldn't. No one believes you. No one
believes you. And talking about her business. No one believes you. Let's be
real. I'm not looking at my husband because I'm talking truth between two
girlfriends. When I started talking truth, look how heated you got. Because
you're a liar.
And I like that. You guys are the ones who are lying. I'm not lying.
How many Xanax did you take? I heard you took like five Xanax. Liars. Are you
kidding?
What, 10?
I'm anti -medicine.
Okay, but you can say all that, then I'm not supposed to defend myself.
Teresa, we built a great relationship together, and we had a lot of fun,
We had a blast.
Of course we did. That's why she has nothing bad to say about me.
I never did anything to hurt you guys.
So, you know, when we first met Joe and Melissa, obviously we knew nothing about
them. Joe, you and Richie, while Keely actually called me, you wanted to sit
down. And I told you that Joe and Teresa were my friends.
I don't want to get in the middle of this stuff.
Jacqueline is a different person than I am. And she's like, you know what? I'm
not going to judge Melissa or Joe based on what I'm being told. I'm going to
find out for myself.
And that's how we got to start to get to know Melissa and Joe.
And honestly, we fell in love with them.
Jacqueline said, why can't we put them together? Why can't we all hang out
together and all have fun together?
And that's what she tried to do.
Okay? And I told Jacqueline, you are going to get their family, and one day
they're going to come back together, and you're going to become the bad guy.
Well, here we are.
I'm looking at Joe Gorga, and I kind of feel like you kind of miss these guys a
little bit.
Listen, you know, there's no, I had no turmoil with anybody.
You know, this to me is petty.
I'm going to be honest with you.
My family destroyed me.
That was a problem for me.
I want
you to
be a man. Stick with your blood.
I'm not sticking with scum like you.
For years, I was a mess.
This, to me, is all bullshit.
Chris, did you gamble away $500 ,000?
Never in my life. Was Jacqueline a stripper when you met her? My son should
never speak another word in his life if I'm lying right now.
I met Jacqueline in Chicago at a trade show.
I didn't say you met her as a stripper. Yes, you did.
You said she gave him a damn. No, no, no, I didn't say that. You were a
stripper. Come on, show us a lap dance. Give my brother a lap dance. You know
what, buddy? Give Andy a lap dance.
You know, Andy, I'm thinking back to when Jacqueline and I first started to
build our relationship with Joe and Teresa.
Yeah, well, that's long gone. Yeah, it is long gone, but I want to bring it up
for a reason.
The reality is, Teresa, I know she cares about you and still does, as crazy as
that sounds.
I'm not going to sit here and bull to anybody because there's no upside for
OK. All right, OK, fine.
Well, we're going to see more of you in a bit.
We're going to take a break right now, and we'll be back from Jersey in a
minute.
There is a possibility that Joe could be deported.
Back with The Real Housewives of New Jersey.
You know, sometimes when I'm watching the show, I feel like I need a Jersey
translator.
Let's take a look at some of our favorite Jerseyisms from the season.
I want to get an edamame.
Like an enema?
Yeah. An edamame? Wait, wait.
People will say, well, I'm illiterate. I'm not illiterate. I think they have
Ramadan done.
Endorphins and Saratogans.
Cornrows. They're called lipstick.
Lesbians. I don't know what this is. It's like... To a fire escape door.
The sun is shining.
So that's daytime.
And I know you wanted to do red accents.
Can't stop.
What is this? I don't know. I can't feel it. You did it all.
Did you learn that at camp? I don't know.
You don't understand.
I don't know why.
Teresa,
have you gotten an edamame yet?
No, I wanted to because I want to go with Dolores.
You know it's not an edamame, right? I know. How do you say it?
Edamame. No, it's a colonic, actually.
Have you gotten one, Andy? I have never gotten one. You haven't lived then.
What are your plans for Ramadan done?
Ramadan. We used to celebrate it when we were there.
It's not Ramadan -dan, first of all. It's Ramadan.
Ramadan. Oh, I didn't even know that. I don't know. I just get tongue twisted.
I had braces in the back of my teeth that were making me talk a little funny.
No. No, no, no. No, no, no. I'm not going for that either. Oh, that's harsh.
That's mean.
Jacqueline just made a good point.
I said that is one of the endearing things about you. Thank you. Yeah.
Dolores, you are the first to admit that fights in Italian families are like
wars. This year, why did you think Melissa and Teresa were finally able to
the path behind them? Did someone eat it?
They both did.
They both did. And she was away long enough for things to calm down. Right.
that year break saved them.
Joe, do you think there's anything that can break you and your sister apart
again? Never. No.
Well, Teresa, over the years, we have seen you face a lot of adversity.
Bankruptcy, family war, even your husband calling you the C -word.
First of all, he didn't call me the C -word to my face.
He was on the phone.
Hold on, here she comes, my bitch wife. She's such a... Who are you talking to?
Some would argue that it's worse that he said it behind your back.
I'd rather him say it behind my back and not to my face.
Well, this season you showed the world that nothing, not even 11 and a half
months in federal prison, can take you down. Take a look.
That is such a joke. No freaking way.
I am a survivor, and I love the person that I am. I love
all of my girls the same, but Adriana is my baby.
I'm coming home to a situation where I need to make money.
Turning the tables is number two.
The Pope is number four.
You're just like your dad.
Don't bring my dad up. I'll smack your head up against the wall, so shut up. I
think you need to leave.
Let me tell you something. I can't wait to leave.
The only thing I'm going to miss are my kids.
He needs to pick up.
It would be good for him.
I can't wait to hear from him.
Oh,
no. Looks like you got everything under control.
I mean, before I got married, I always crossed every T, dotted every I, so I'm
going to go back to the way I was.
I might put the house up for sale.
Really?
Uh, lots to discuss.
As I watched this season, it seemed like you were getting your finances.
In order, I was surprised to see that you might have to sell the house.
I just thought maybe it would be better to, like, just a downsize. But my kids
don't want to leave, so that's why I'm working hard as a single mom and doing
everything I can so we could stay there.
What was the number one thing you learned from your time in prison?
That's a hard question. I learned so many things. I met a lot of wonderful
women.
You think, oh my God, there's such bad people in prison. And there's not.
Now it's kind of easier for me to say that word because I couldn't even say
word. You couldn't. Why couldn't you? I just don't like it because it's just not
who I am.
Were you ever tempted to get with a lady?
No. No.
No, I would get massages and that would feel good. I guess that would be my
getting off.
Did you? No, I mean like I'm kidding. Okay.
Keep on going with this. No. A lot of people felt like it sounded like... A
place to be.
I mean, if you saw where I lived, it was pretty disgusting.
So it was kind of prison -y.
It was really old and dungy and moldy. The reason why I keep my head up high, I
know I'm not a bad person. I know I didn't try to commit a crime.
And I did what I had to do.
Do you now understand what you did wrong? Well, the numbers that were on
papers were incorrect.
That's what I got in trouble for. I didn't fill out that mortgage paper.
The mortgage broker did.
the bank did, and the attorneys.
All they did was sign another line.
Listen, I took responsibility, but I wish everybody else in that room would
went away also.
Have you ever put any blame on Joe for your time away?
No, because he took full responsibility. He said my wife had nothing to do with
it. But because I'm in the public eye, they had to make an example of me, and
they did. When I went to court, if you saw the photographers...
helicopters that were there. It was insanity.
If Joe could have done her
time, he would have.
Rosemarie from Evanston said, Teresa, I get it. You admit to signing something
you shouldn't have, but I feel like you don't have remorse.
Remorse? You and Joe cheated the system. Do you admit and understand that that
was wrong? Okay, I spent 352 nights away from my daughters.
I would like that person to be away from their children for 352 days. Did you
count every day?
Oh, yeah. Then I just got a calendar, and I was, like, crossing it off. How's
Melania doing with Joe's absence?
She seemed to take it to heart. I mean, he's doing good. How often do you and
the girl get to go visit Joe? Every week.
Does he have a six pack yet?
Almost. Wow. Tell Andy how much weight Joe has lost so far. Oh, over 35 pounds.
Wow. Yeah, he looks really good. That is incredible.
Despite what Kim D alleges, what various gossip sites have alleged, you 100
% stand by that Joe Giudice never stepped out on you while you were in
That's how I feel, yeah.
If a girl says, oh, I was with Joe Giudice. Oh, really, bitch?
Let me see intimate pictures.
You want proof. Because I know if I was with Joe Giudice, I would make sure I
would get kissing pictures. I would make sure I would get pictures in bed.
Believe me.
Nan from Portland writes, Teresa, when you first got home, you seemed like you
were in shock and exhausted.
How long did it take to start to feel normal again?
Well, I didn't sleep for two days because the night before, the girls had
party for me there.
What do they serve at a going -away party?
Oh, they make food.
Crackers? No, you get popcorn, melt caramel, butter, nuts, and then you mix
it all together and you get the most delicious thing. I feel maybe a skinny
Italian Danbury book. I wanted to do one.
Dawn from Springfield said, Joe Gorga is Gia's godfather. Do you think she has a
lot of anger towards her dad because of the legal issues and the drinking? No.
I've been spending a lot more time with her now.
And she is the most mature person.
She's got a boyfriend now.
She does have a boyfriend.
Joe talked to him on the phone.
I mean, Joe can't punch him from where he is. No, but we don't need to. She's
put together. She should date Frankie.
They're very close. I know. Since they were little. You never know. She's only
allowed to have one boyfriend. That's it. But you never know. They may get
together later on.
The talk you and Joe had outside.
by the fire pit the day before he left for prison was very moving.
You either learn two things in there. You either learn how to become a
or a better person. So I'm going to try to become a better person.
Do you feel like he'll be able to keep it together? Oh, yeah. I could see him
already keeping it together.
I'm going to ask you this question, and I know it's your least favorite question
that I could ever ask you.
And you walked off Access Hollywood when you were asked, and that is the idea
that There is a possibility that Joe could be deported when he gets out of
prison.
Where are you emotionally with that?
Well, first of all, it's a legal matter, so I'm not really supposed to discuss
it. Yeah. And I guess, you know, we'll deal with that when it comes.
Why does that pain you so much?
Because I just don't want to talk about it because I don't want it to, you know,
I don't, I'm not. You don't want to give it life.
Yes. That's the best reason.
that I've heard all along. You don't even want to put it out there. I got it.
There's nasty people out there that would give it life, and there's no need
give it life.
Teresa, thank you.
More from Jersey after this.
I went to jail for what? Lying. Oh, really? Yeah. You're a friend, and
the end of it. I don't know how you live with yourself. You are so done.
Okay. All right. All right.
Welcome back to the Real Housewives of New Jersey reunion.
We are joined again by Chris Lurita.
Hi, Chris.
This season, we saw new beginnings with the Gorgas and Judices, but new
beginnings were not in the cards for Kathy and Rosie. Why weren't you willing
start fresh with your cousins?
Because I don't need family like that.
Kathy blew it up to a whole nother thing. Oh, cancer, like trying to make
look bad. I want to cut the cancer out.
Well, we're not cancer. They're toxic. I don't need family that's toxic.
They never called once. They never wrote, sent me a card. You didn't hear
them while you were gone? Never.
Never. And Jacqueline, don't get involved.
You wouldn't even sit on the same couch with them. I don't understand this girl.
But I'm just saying, because they're not here to defend themselves.
Look! I want you to understand. Why don't you worry about your family? I do.
They know what I meant. But of course, they had to drag it out to Jacqueline.
And I said, our door is always open for you.
And then she said, my door is open too.
But Jacqueline's intention from the very beginning was only to bring this family
together. Well, that's not how I feel.
This is the thing. Teresa just got home.
Yeah. Joe is leaving.
Right. They're not her first priority.
They disgraced our families. And Rosie wasn't around, so she wasn't there for
husband. My aunt, what kind of aunt would say something about their niece
that? I mean, even Siggy, she said her aunt would never respond that way, ever.
How do you feel that your niece is guilty to fraud?
When you don't do the right thing, Rich, it always catch up with you.
My family would never believe that I was guilty, ever.
I would say, you know what? I know Teresa. She's a wonderful mother. I wish
only the best.
Liz from Destin said, Melissa, what happened with you and Kathy? You guys
to be so close. Did you pull away to be loyal to Teresa?
No, it had nothing to do with Teresa. And it wasn't that we ever had like an
argument or a fight. We kind of grew apart.
She stopped calling me. I would call her. She wouldn't call me back. You
see it like that. That's 100 % true. You know that too. And I've told you this
story a hundred times.
You're just going to back up whoever you're backing up. That's fine.
You know it's true, Jacqueline. You know it's true.
Henry from Maine said, Teresa, after the meeting with Kathy and Rosie aired, you
posted on Twitter a picture that said, that's all, folks.
Is that the Twitter kiss of death?
Yes. Yes, that was it. Wow.
Well, it was a crazy trip.
Let's take a look at the nightmare in Vermont.
You fucking calling me a soldier makes me want to rage on your fucking ass.
Do it! Shut the fuck up. Oh, yeah, shut the fuck up. Come on.
Listen,
I don't want anything to happen with her and I.
It would happen again.
You shouldn't antagonize anybody.
I was friends with Teresa when she was chasing a prostitution whore out of a
country club.
She flipped a table on somebody.
When she threw a man off a chair.
And I didn't judge her on it. I wasn't mad at her. And you know what? Some of
those people were my friends at the time.
I think she's using this as an excuse to turn on me. You're the one that always
has soldiers.
No, no, no.
Kimby, Penny, Johnny the Greek, Jan.
I had nothing to do with that. Really? That's not what they said. You were in
this salon with her and didn't warn her. Guess what?
As soon as I found out.
Wait, Melissa.
You tell the truth right now. When I found out, did I tell you?
Um, I don't remember. I gotta be honest. I really can't remember.
What's wrong with you? You're a fake, phony bitch.
That's what you are.
Phony. Yes, you are. You fake, phony bitch. Okay, this is enough. You're four
-nose job. You won't even admit to. Four -nose job? I said you warned me. Okay,
thank you for finally answering it. I think she warned you because she knew
was going down.
I didn't warn you because I didn't know what was going on. You are such a
twisted bitch.
I learned from the back. You did it. I learned from the best. You did
everything. I learned from the best. I feel threatened right now. I don't want
you to get threatened. Because if you get in her face, if you get... You're a
criminal. Oh, my God. I feel threatened. I feel threatened.
Melissa, why did you invite Christina and Robin?
Because these are two girls that have been hanging out with her a lot.
I by no means thought that, you know, that was going to happen between her and
Jacqueline.
She said nothing negative to you at all.
Oh, she started trying to come at me with things. It went on forever. But
the one important. You know, I don't understand how it escalated.
Well,
we had our robes on. We were roasting marshmallows. I think we're going to
a Havana Gila moment. And then it escalated to you saying that I'm a
makes me want to rage on your ass. Now, at this point, I'm thinking Robin's
going to rage on Jacqueline's ass.
So now she's going to get mad at her ass because I'm a little bit blah, blah,
blah. And then Jacqueline's handing her her ass. Someone says they're going to
rage on your ass. Why would you go sit on their lap? I was mocking her.
But why?
Why would you even endanger yourself that way? I don't know. I was falling in
love.
I think Jacqueline was upset because she felt set up again.
And she sincerely wanted to believe that this attempt at mending a friendship
was real. And I think she was disappointed it wasn't.
Julie from Georgetown said, Siggy, a lot of times this season you have a look on
your face like, who are these people and what did I get myself into?
You've never been around Italian girls from Jersey, have you?
It's not that it's just Italian girls. Listen, people want to love each other
and be together. They got to tango together.
That Vermont trip, Jacqueline walked into dinner and she was shocked by the
that Teresa said there are two people missing. She thought she would have
hey, Jacqueline, what happened? Did my friends offend you?
I thought Jacqueline would have said, I'm sorry that happened with your
Right. I asked you. Nobody said anything. Yeah, I asked you how you feel
that because I wanted to talk to you about it. But what could have diffused
everything is when Jacqueline looked at Melissa and said she was almost looking
for a lifeline. Melissa, you know that it didn't have anything to do with it.
I answered her, but not quick enough.
But by the time you got to the answer, she speaks to me like a child and barks
at me like I'm their child.
I'm not defending Jacqueline's delivery.
Jacqueline's delivery was bad. The first thing I learned in therapy when I was
getting divorced was emotions do not travel in rational channels. So I look
these situations. I've been thinking that all day.
I need to know something.
Melissa. Yes.
Did you have four nose jobs? No.
Let me tell you something. It's the worst kept secret, obviously.
Not two different doctors?
Why do you care?
It's the worst kept secret, but it's my secret as well. Not yours.
You don't want my daughter to hear it. Thank you.
I'll let Antonia know now.
Thank you, Jack.
You're a great friend. The only thing about her nose job is the fact that she
can lie with a straight face. Hold on. Is it any of your business? That's my
lie. The person with the most plastic surgery in the room cares. Actually, no,
they've had more plastic surgery than me. But it wasn't about your gut. It's
fact that you lie with a straight face. You were doing it that night, and
history shows that you both are liars because you do it with a straight face.
You went to jail for it. I went to jail for what? Say, I went to jail for what?
She went to jail for what? I went to jail for what? Lying. Oh, really? Yeah.
Friend and that's the I don't know how you live with yourself. You are a very
low dirty thing Okay, all right. Look at her clown looking face All
right, she's probably the clowns that are coming around our house. You know
she's probably one of them No, I wouldn't say that. I would just say
friend. No, she's a clown Jacqueline you knew wait, she's a wolf in lamb's
clothing, but she's a wolf with rabies. It's a wolf and sheep That's what I
said. That's what I said. That's what I said.
That's what I meant. A wolf in sheep's clothing. Such a war. You can't argue
with the war. A wolf with rabies. All right, look, can you stop and get away
from me? Trust me, I am.
You're disgusting.
You are disgusting.
Doesn't affect my life.
Doesn't affect my life either. That's why you keep crying for me. Listen,
for a second.
You're obsessing me. Everybody stop. Stop.
Okay. She's so dumb.
Jacqueline. No, you're dumb. You're a dumb bitch.
You're a moron.
Stop. This is bickering bulls. Let's go. Tell her to shut the fuck up then.
Okay. All right. We're going to take a break.
You hired security?
I removed the knives, and I wanted to make sure that there was security there.
Look, you need to remove the knives, and there should not be a lunch.
That's how I feel.
Welcome back to the Real Housewives of New Jersey reunion.
Joe Gorga, Jacqueline and Melissa were really close friends before Teresa got
home. Why do you think they started having problems once Teresa was back in
picture? There was no problems till that trip, you know, and you flipped out for
no apparent reason. No apparent reason. Okay.
They're going to eat their words if they go there. Yeah. I don't need any words,
honey. You had your reasons, but a friend doesn't do what you did.
And a friend doesn't do what they did. What did I do to you? And if that was
her... No, before that, you were trying to flip it on me. You were getting very
paranoid. This is my feelings. You were questioning a lot if I thought that our
relationship was real. I understand that, because you didn't believe it. You
never believed Teresa was going to change. And neither did you. Did I say I
think she's changed for the better? Did you not tell me?
You don't believe you and Teresa are really friends, do you? No. You know
she hasn't changed, right? I don't know. I don't know which conversation you're
talking about. You are making me paranoid. I don't know what... You put
paranoia in my head about her. I'm turning you off. Look at this.
Off, because when you lie, I turn you off. No, but I want you to think what
was saying about me. Jump off a bed. I didn't start this, Jacqueline. No, I did
not. No, I did not.
What? Yeah, when Jacqueline gets the phone calls from whether it be Melissa
this current time or Teresa back then, I'm the guy in the room that...
I'm over here in the call. Right. So quite honestly, Melissa and Joe, they
us hate Teresa.
Nah, you're wrong about that. Hold on. I defended you. But hold on.
Jacqueline stood up for you guys. It kind of ruined our relationship with Joe
and Teresa. Chris, don't get it twisted. The relationship got screwed up when
she called her out on the magazines on the porch that day. It has absolutely
nothing to do with me.
Stacey from Providence said, Melissa, do you think Jacqueline ever really cared
about your friendship or were you just a means to get to Teresa?
There was a time when Jacqueline and I had like a friendship. I would listen to
her about Nicholas.
I would tell her about my kids.
But I feel like her mind messed with her, and she thought that I was going to
turn on her.
And then, in fact, you had to prove your own self right, and you made it happen
all by yourself.
And I want to put you right here. Trust me. I would have loved to see you guys
met. And I need you to understand that. Well, Dolores and Siggy, you care about
all these ladies. I do.
But let's see how you stand up against the biggest C in New Jersey, conflict.
Oh, God. Take a look.
How about if everybody comes to my house for lunch on Friday? Do you have
insurance?
I'm going to remove these from the table.
I want one -on -one. You can be there if you want to be a mediator. We're going
to do it the way you want to do it. Hi.
Hello, hello.
Teresa, can I have you sit here?
Huh? And then, Melissa, can you leave?
Jacqueline's barking orders at me. Well, you don't call the shot.
I think I am calling the shot today. Oh, sorry.
Miss Teacher?
Is that better?
Bitch better?
It's better?
Why did I think I could have a one -on -one conversation with these morons?
Jacqueline!
Wait a second.
Jacqueline! Wait, wait, wait, wait. I wanted to give her the kiss of death
today. Little, sweet, innocent Jacqueline is a nut.
What is the kiss of death?
It's like I'll never see you again, like goodbye. Yeah, goodbye.
It's like saying goodbye from Scarface. Did you know what? The Godfather. I got
it, I got it.
Siggy, you got back from Vermont.
and you organized a group lunch.
You hired security.
I removed the knives, and I wanted to make sure that there was security there.
wasn't taking any chances. You got rid of the knives. This is how I feel. If
need to remove the knives and you need to call security, then there should not
be a lunch. That's how I feel.
Jacqueline, why did you decide to come to the luncheon?
Because I've been where Siggy is, and she just wanted everyone to get to a
of peace. So my intention was I wanted to sit with each person one -on -one.
Without anyone interrupting, I wanted them to speak to me.
And then I was going to speak to them. That seemed so rational and logical.
But watching it, you didn't say, you know what, you guys? Would you do me the
honor of sitting with me alone one -on -one? You can talk. I was going to do
that. And then what happened was when they came in, it was attitude right
My walls went up. They came in expecting.
and still with a chip on their shoulder because of the... No, it's just how I
feel. I didn't walk in with a chip on my shoulder. But you were both angry still
from Vermont. I was actually coming in very peaceful.
She's, like, toxic, evil, like, miserable.
She is psycho.
Okay, here we go.
I'm staying corrected, and I'm glad to be wrong.
Is there anything that you were going to say to Teresa that day that you haven't
already said today?
Let's agree to disagree.
We're never going to be friends again. That's fine.
When we're around each other, let's respect, you know, our boundaries.
Would you have agreed to that agreement had her approach been different?
Yeah, I mean, yeah. What would you have said to Melissa?
Actually, I wasn't going to say anything to Melissa.
Because I was irrelevant to you and I was never a friend, so you really didn't
give a shit. I think Jacqueline feels she put her neck on the line for you.
By going against Teresa's wishes of embracing you.
And don't talk to me anymore than if you weren't going to talk to me that day.
I'm done.
Tell us why you think Jacqueline is so upset with Teresa.
My wife puts her heart and soul into a friendship.
Sometimes she goes too deep with caring for people. And when she's hurt, she
goes to the extreme opposite direction.
Joe Gorga, do you think there's hope for this group? This is a disaster.
Wow.
We'll be back.
Done. I'm going.
I don't do liars.
Okay, you are a liar. I don't do liars. Can I get a water, please?
Welcome back to the Real Housewives of New Jersey reunion.
Siggy and Dolores, you both are friends with Jacqueline and Teresa. What do you
think would have to happen to repair this relationship?
They would both need a lobotomy.
I think, listen, time heals all broken wounds.
You know, no one can predict the future. I always have hope. They play in the
mud. It's just like a marriage.
You know, you take a car, you don't put gas in the car, it's not going to move
from point A to point B.
You got to put gas in a relationship.
And they both have to be willing to do it together. At the same time. Yeah.
Well, Jacqueline and Teresa, it seems like your relationship has reached the
of the road. Maybe.
I hope not.
But you guys have had some good times in the past. Take a look.
I mean... Quit when you're ahead.
Teresa and I had a really good friendship for about 13 years.
She was like a sister to me. We were very close. We had a lot of good times
together. Sounds like two balls.
And a little pee -pee. Mmm.
There's nuts in the balls.
I want to thank the Giudice family for inviting us up to their country home
weekend. Happy holidays to everybody.
Nobody knows Jacqueline better than me. And I know she wants a relationship with
Teresa. They always used to call each other Lucy and Ethel. They have a very
strong bond, whether they both want to believe it or not.
Always feel free to call me, you know? Or if you need a ride somewhere, because
I know you don't go on the highway.
I'm like, I'm freaking...
Nightmare. She's just not doing what she's supposed to be doing.
Oh,
don't cry.
If she needs a shoulder to cry on, I'm here for her.
Hi. Hey, clever pajamas.
And she has to remember that Nicholas gave her this flower just in case they
ever date one day.
It's for you.
Aw,
Deanna, what are you saying?
What's it like watching that?
Hard. Hard. I mean, that gets you both, right? Of course. Those are our babies.
And, you know, no matter what we go through, I'll always have a special
my heart for Nicholas.
I mean, he's a beautiful baby.
You know?
Jacqueline, are you willing to admit any wrongdoing in your relationship with
Teresa? Of course. I've always apologized for the things I've said.
taken accountability when I'm angry. We both... have said and done terrible
things to each other.
It's just, that's how we get when we're mad. It's like two sisters that rip each
other's hair out, and then the next day they're like hugging over something.
I don't like to do that with my friends.
Are you willing to admit any wrongdoing in your relationship with Jacqueline?
I mean, I'm going to say yes, but like I never did anything to hurt her
intentionally. You know, when you're married to someone, we had great times.
had great times.
So, I mean...
I don't regret that that happened in my life. That was a part of my journey.
I'll never forget it. And we did have good times together.
But something happened. Something went south.
The biggest thing is when somebody apologizes for something, it's over.
It's done. It cannot be brought up. You cannot say, I don't trust you because
you did this. You start there from scratch and start new. Otherwise, you're
wasting your time.
Jacqueline. You said you were done with Teresa, but the day Joe went away, that
seemed to hit you really hard. Why?
I'm not a monster. I mean, I'm going to cry now, but just because I'm angry at
someone and it doesn't mean that I don't have compassion and I don't see what
people go through.
It's like you're seeing something like that. I've known him for a long time.
I've known her.
And it's hard to see. That's all.
Did that move you at all? I think if anyone sees a mom go away and leave
four daughters... I know, but given what you had been through, did that give you
warm feelings for Jacqueline at all? I mean, at the time it did, yes. At the
time it did, yes. Good.
Jacqueline, after Joe left for prison, you said if Teresa ever called you and
needed you, that you would be there.
Could you say the same for Jacqueline?
I guess, but I'm sure... That's the same thing that I said to my cousins, but,
you know, when you're...
No, no, meaning like you're never going to call me, I'm not going to call you.
You're going to call somebody that's close to you. You never know. You never
know. So, I mean, you know, of course, and that's, of course, you know. But I
don't think either one of you would turn each other away. That's right, and if
Jackson called you, Teresa would be there for her and vice versa. No, of
All right, we're going to take a break.
More with the Jersey Housewives after this.
Coming up... Can you guys just do it for me, please?
Welcome back to the Real Housewives of New Jersey reunion.
Dolores, you really learned to lean on this group.
I did. I never realized that there could be such a camaraderie because I was
like a lone ranger all this time.
Speaking of strength from the group, Jacqueline, it was heartwarming to me to
see the women on the spot trip lift you up when you were really going through it
about Nicholas. That had to mean a lot to you. A lot.
Were you surprised?
Yeah. Why?
I have a lot of proud mommy moments with him. You want him to have what everyone
else has, and it's so frustrating. And he will. You know what? Listen, you
believe, and he will.
No, for real.
Not easy.
Yeah. This is a nice one.
You know, I can have those moments and somebody understands.
What's going through your minds, your holding hands?
As much as I get angry at people, I don't like to see anybody hurt. I would
guess also as mothers, seeing her daily struggle. Yeah, but I do think she's
wonderful with Nicholas.
It's something that's always right here on her mind. Jacqueline wakes up and has
a much harder job than all of us. And on top of that, never complains.
And on top of going through a lot, what I really admire about everybody here is
that we are the best moms ever.
I agree with that 100%. We are like, we're warrior moms. I have to say
something, and it's a compliment to you ladies.
I'm proud to know you guys. I love you guys.
I'm never going to Vermont again.
Having said that, I am so grateful for this journey.
It would really make me happy if we all just got up and gave each other a hug.
Group hug!
Can you guys just do it for me, please?
You can't tell her no.
I would like to see a group hug as well. I mean, to be honest, we both said
terrible things.
I would like to get to a place. We don't have to be friends. We don't have to go
deep. We don't have to do any of that. And from this moment forward, I will
uttered a bad word about you she's saying can you coexist peacefully in the
room yeah but just please please i beg you don't hurt me or my family like
talk to if anybody wants to hurt me don't talk to them jackson i would never
have to eat it just say okay yeah i wouldn't i never did hurt you i'm
You know like all right, let's not go backwards. Let's go forward. Okay. Can
have a truth here? Peace. That's what I want
Let's have a group hug, okay, I'm
gonna help you up you're in that track down All right ladies, and I have to be
the closest to Jack
I love you girls so much. This is really happening.
A nice hug.
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