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As the president was coming down from
Houston Street making his turn, it was
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about halfway down there, I heard a
shot.
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Then I heard another shot or two. I
couldn't say what it was one or two.
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People were screaming.
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It was out of air.
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Everybody was laying flat on the ground
on the wall.
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It appears as though something has
happened in the motorcade route.
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repeat, has happened in the motorcade
route.
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Three shots were heard to ring out.
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Mrs. Kennedy was heard by reporters
nearby to scream, Oh, no.
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Mrs. DePruder, certainly no one had a
better view of the assassination than
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did. Abe DePruder got it from the
beginning to end, this middle -aged...
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garment manufacturer who got the only
filmed evidence of the assassination
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and not one of those world -famous
photographers back there in the press
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A gentleman just walked in our studio
that I am meeting for the first time as
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well as you. This is WFATV in Dallas,
Texas. May I have your name, please,
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My name is Abraham Zapruder.
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Mr. Zapruder?
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Zapruder, yes, sir. Zapruder. And would
you tell us your story, please, sir?
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I'm telling you right straight out that
if you are at all sensitive, if you're
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at all queasy, then don't watch this
film.
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President Kennedy went to Texas to take
his program to the people.
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He had carried the state by only a
narrow margin in the 1960 election.
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Traveling with the presidential party
are Vice President Lyndon Johnson and
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Johnson and Texas Governor John Connolly
and Mrs. Nellie Connolly.
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We thought John Kennedy was a handsome,
heroic figure.
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We all thought we loved the Kennedys.
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She was the royalty that our country had
never had.
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She was very glamorous, very attractive,
beautifully dressed.
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I loved that man. My family loved that
man. There were millions, I'm sure, who
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loved that man.
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He was an inspiration to the youth of
America.
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I believe it's the first time that in
this country we had a president as young
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as Kennedy was.
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My grandfather had been taking home
movies since the mid -1930s.
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He loved taking home movies, and he took
them of everything.
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When he was looking to buy a camera, he
came in, said his name was Dave
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Sapruder, and he said he was looking for
a camera and pulled off the camera of
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the shelf. It was an 8mm, and it was a
Bell & Howell.
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So he bought the camera from me.
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I guess the price was right.
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Thursday evening.
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Beautiful.
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President Kennedy speaks the League of
United Latin American Citizens.
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Then, to ensure that his words will be
understood by all, he calls on Mrs.
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Kennedy to address the League in
Spanish.
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She spoke crisp Spanish, very simple
little speech, but got a big hand for
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I remember the president in the
background looking a little lost and out
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place.
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The crowd there was, I'm sure,
overcapacity.
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When he walked into our banquet,
everybody went wild, hollering, Viva
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Viva Kennedy.
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My grandfather was very determined to be
an American.
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He was born in 1905 in imperial Russia.
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They followed the pattern of many East
European Jews of that time.
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You know, he came here at 15 years old.
He had no education. He had never
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studied in school.
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He learned English right away in night
school.
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And then he did very much what Jews did
then. He went to work on 7th Avenue in
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the garment industry.
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My grandmother fell in love with my
grandfather immediately.
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He fell in love with her too, and you
can see it in the pictures of them
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together.
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And then they had an opportunity to go
to Dallas.
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He got Jennifer Jr.'s off -the -ground
undress company.
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I think it was a pretty good working
environment.
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Everybody called him Mr. Z.
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My grandfather and grandmother were big
fans of John F. Kennedy.
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Our family really believed that
President Kennedy could make the world a
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place.
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Friday morning, November 22nd.
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It's 8 .45 and the weather is misty.
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In spite of the weather, a large and
exuberant crowd turns out to see and
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the President.
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The President was in the parking lot
that morning without Mrs. Kennedy. There
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was some obvious disappointment in the
crowd, and he made a nice remark.
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There are no faint hearts in Fort Worth,
and I appreciate your being here this
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morning.
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Mrs. Kennedy is organizing herself.
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It takes longer.
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But, of course, she looks better than we
do when she doesn't.
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But we appreciate your welcome.
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Here comes the President.
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And that's Mrs. Kennedy coming in.
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And for the ladies in the audience,
she's wearing a pink outfit trimmed in
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black.
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A few years ago, I introduced myself in
Paris by saying that I was the man who
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had accompanied Mrs. Kennedy to Paris.
I'm getting somewhat that same sensation
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as I travel around Texas.
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wonders what Lyndon and I wear.
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Friday morning.
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The presidential jet leaves Fort Worth
with a short flight to Dallas, where the
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president has a scheduled luncheon
address.
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I didn't have a camera with me at all
that morning.
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I never believed I'd be able to see the
president.
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So it was very surprising that he didn't
bring his camera.
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He said, you know, I'm too short. I
won't be able to see anything.
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He was sort of reserved.
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He didn't have a lot of confidence,
partly because he didn't have a lot of
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education. And so he wasn't always very
comfortable taking a risk or putting
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himself out there. Even though he was
very bright and very clever, very funny,
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very smart, he was hesitant in a way.
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And so I think he just sort of decided
not to gamble on it somehow.
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And it was Lillian Rogers, his
assistant, who said, you're the one
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taking home movies for 30 years. You
know, you have to go home and get your
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camera.
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I believe I wouldn't have had the
pictures at all if it wasn't for my
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Mrs. Rogers, who made me go home and get
the camera.
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And it really is kind of a remarkable
close call because the history would be
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completely different if we didn't have
that film.
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Friday morning.
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The president's jet lands at the Dallas
airport.
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Love, Bill.
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Several thousand enthusiastic Texans are
on hand to give the president and Mrs.
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Kennedy a warm welcome.
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I can remember the sky being so blue and
then these beautiful people get off the
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plane. People like I'd never seen. I'd
never seen anybody in a tailored suit.
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or any woman that had a high fashion, or
makeup. I remember the makeup.
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It was so pristine.
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Mrs. Kennedy is making one of her first
public appearances in several months.
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It's unusual that Mrs. Kennedy was along
at all, because she didn't ordinarily
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make this kind of trip with him.
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Mrs. Kennedy, in August of 1963, was
pregnant.
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And we were up on Cape Cod, and she all
of a sudden began having labor pains
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when the baby was born. She named him
Patrick Bouvier Kennedy.
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And then it was discovered that he had a
medical problem.
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Unfortunately, he died about another day
later.
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And they had a funeral service in
Boston, and he was buried in Boston.
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We felt we had lost a member of our
family.
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She remained in a very saddened,
depressed state
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for a long time.
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Gradually, she decided that she would
accompany her husband on his trip into
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Texas to help him with his reelection
bid for 1964.
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Although the President is running behind
schedule, he pauses momentarily to
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shake a few hands.
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What surprised me a little bit was that
Mrs. Kennedy followed right along.
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She's always a little bit shy and didn't
usually go into a crowd like that, but
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in this occasion she did.
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My aunt and her best friend went down to
Love Field to greet the President and
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the First Lady when they arrived.
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My aunt remembers everyone pushing to
see the president, and she just was
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stunned by how handsome and charming he
was.
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And my Uncle Myron, who was watching the
motorcade from his office overlooking
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Main Street.
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My grandfather was at Jennifer Jr.'s. It
was just across the way from Dealey
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Plaza.
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Pretty much the whole factory, and went
down to see the president.
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They closed the office at lunch, and
everyone went down.
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The whole family was wrapped up in this
exciting moment.
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Friday, ten minutes before noon.
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The motorcade begins the 11 -mile ride
to the Dallas Trademark, where the
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president is to deliver a major address.
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Governor and Mrs. Connolly ride in the
presidential limousine.
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After coming back with my camera from my
house, I went downstairs.
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I was around 12.
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And I was looking for a place where it
would be good enough to take pictures.
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I've changed the place three times.
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One place I couldn't stand very erect.
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Another place a tree was in my way.
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And finally I...
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It's the very spot I stopped at.
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And we decided that would be the best
place. We said, you can get up here,
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you'll be above everybody.
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No matter how many people are down here,
you won't have anybody blocking your
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view.
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He had vertigo, though.
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If he got up there, he'd get dizzy.
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So he said, you'll have to stand behind
me and hold on to me. I said, it's no
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problem at all.
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So we both got up there, and I stood
behind him, and I held on to him.
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I told her to watch me while I take
those pictures because using a zoom
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you kind of get dizzy and it says I
might have to have somebody to hold on
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So we were kind of joking.
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It had been raining, flight driven.
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And because of that, the supervisor
called to see what the weather was like
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to make a determination about whether or
not we would leave the bubble top in
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the car.
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Now, the bubble top is simply a piece of
glass.
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It was decided that because the weather
was clearing up, the bubble top would be
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off.
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Any time you were in an open car, we
were very concerned because we all knew
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vulnerability whenever you were in an
open car.
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The president always felt that if the
people were good enough to come out and
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see him, he was good enough to sit there
in the open car and let them see him.
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They routed us right through the heart
of the town.
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Dallas has sort of canyon streets.
They're quite narrow, and the building's
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fairly tall. I mean, 10 -story building.
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The crowd spilled out over the sidewalk,
so you really only had a lane of
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traffic down the hill.
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And we heard people saying, they're
coming, they're coming.
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And the motorcade, it just seemed like a
lot of motorcycles, a lot of cars.
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passing by, and the motorcade slowed
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down. So I got this straight -on view of
President and Mrs. Kennedy.
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And my impression at the moment was that
they were just gorgeous people, big,
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like bigger, bigger, bigger than life.
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And they seemed very relaxed and happy.
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He started to accelerate, just barely.
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About 50, 60 feet down Elm Street, I was
looking to my left to a grassy area.
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There were very few people in that area.
Some people there taking pictures.
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And then I watched.
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For the arrival of the cars, I saw the
motorcycles, and then the car
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As they turned, I started shooting the
pictures.
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And he says, okay, here we go.
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That's when I remember we started
actually doing the filming.
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And I was shooting as they were coming
along, and Jacqueline and the president
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were waving.
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And as they came in line with my camera,
I heard a shot.
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I heard an explosive noise to my right
rear.
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And I saw the president grab at his
throat and lurch to his left.
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I took the picture, and the shots were
still being fired.
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She did scream. She says, my God, he's
been shot.
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I saw the president looming over to
Jacqueline.
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I didn't realize what had happened.
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Then the second shot came, and then I
realized I
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saw his head open up,
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and I started yelling, they killed him,
they killed him.
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I just looked straight up ahead of me
because that's the direction the sound
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came from.
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And I saw two black men leaning out of
the window of the fifth floor, looking
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directly up above them. My eyes went on
up to the next floor and there was a
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rifle. I could see the rifle in the part
of the stock and it being drawn in the
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window.
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When that bullet hit his head, the plume
went up.
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And I went through that plume. It was
all over me and all over my helmet and
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glass and everything.
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So I knew something was wrong. Something
had happened.
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So I jumped from the car and ran toward
the presidential vehicle.
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Mrs. Kennedy was coming out on the
trunk.
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I helped her as best I could to get back
into the back seat of the car.
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I turned to Gail and I said, that's it,
hit the ground.
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And we turned and threw our kids down on
the ground and covered them up.
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People were screaming and, I mean, it
was utter chaos by that time.
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Everybody was laying flat on the ground
almost.
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All the focus was on the car.
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The furthest thing was running up to the
car. And the motorcycle and the
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policemen were, you know, flying up.
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Certainly the first lady on the back of
the car, that was.
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Pretty startling.
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Many of the people came running down the
hill, and it was pretty frantic.
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A lot of the policemen then had their
guns out.
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Motorcycle policemen were up on the
grass.
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People were running.
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Then I got off the concrete block, and I
was walking back to my office.
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I was still screaming, they killed him,
they killed him.
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The people in the front kept on asking
what had happened, what had happened.
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But I just kept on yelling.
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They killed him.
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I turned, I gave the thumbs down to the
follow -up car crew to let them know
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that this was a dire situation.
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The car accelerated.
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I got up on top of the back of the car
as best I could to place myself in a
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position to cover both Mrs. Kennedy and
the president.
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If they were going to shoot in the car,
they were going to have to hit me.
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I guess we were traveling maybe as fast
as 80 miles an hour as we went to a
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hospital.
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Mr. Zapruder apparently went directly
back to the office.
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I ran down the slope.
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There were three men in suits running
up, and that's who I met.
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And I said, they killed him, they killed
him.
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And my boss has it on film.
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When I was in a state of shock when I
got back, I was kicking and banging at
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desk. I couldn't understand how a thing
like this could happen.
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I personally have never seen anybody
killed in my life.
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And to see something like this shooting
a man down like a dog, I just couldn't
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believe.
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And my secretary kept on trying to
pacify me. She asked me if I wanted a
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I thought she was crazy. I was, what are
you talking about? Who wants a drink
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now?
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I was interviewing anybody I could find.
And one of them I was interviewing
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said, well, our boss has film of it. I
said, really? You know, where is he? And
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it turned out he's in the very next
building from me.
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where the shots had been fired.
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He was a dress manufacturer.
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I said, take me to him.
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His camera was right on top of a filing
cabinet.
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And I told him, we'll take it to the
Times -Herald and develop the film.
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No, he said, I want to give it to the
FBI or the Secret Service.
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On television, they were saying, Kennedy
has been wounded, perhaps fatally.
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In Dallas, Texas, three shots were fired
at President Kennedy's motorcade in
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Dealey Plaza.
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The first reports say that President
Kennedy has been seriously wounded by
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shooting.
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The breeder said, no, no, he's dead. I
know he's dead.
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I was watching through the viewfinder,
and I saw his head explode like a
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firecracker.
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I called the office, and I hear
screaming and turmoil.
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And I said, what's going on?
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She said, oh, Mr. Schwartz, the police
are here with shotguns.
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I said, what are you talking about?
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And she said,
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oh, Mr. Z has the films, and they want
the films. And he picked up the phone,
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and he said, Erwin, it was terrible. I
saw his head come off.
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I said, I'll be right there.
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When I got off the elevator, there were
two policemen there with shotguns.
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I said, what's going on?
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And they said, we came to get the film.
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The Secret Service says, well, let's see
if we can't get it developed.
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I bet Channel 8 can do it.
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And they put Zapruder on television.
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A gentleman just walked in our studio
that I am meeting for the first time as
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well as you. This is WFAA -TV in Dallas,
Texas. May I have your name, please,
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sir? My name is Abraham Zapruder.
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Mr. Zapruder?
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Zapruder, yes, sir. Zapruder. And would
you tell us your story, please, sir?
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I got out about a half hour earlier and
got to a good spot to shoot some
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pictures.
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And I found a spot, one of these
concrete blocks that I have down near
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near the underpass.
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And I got on top there. There was
another girl from my office. She was
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behind me.
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And as I was shooting, as the president
was coming down from Houston Street and
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making his turn, it was about halfway
down there, I heard a shot.
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And he slumped to the side.
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Like this.
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Then I had another shot or two. I
couldn't say what it was, one or two.
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And I saw his head practically open up,
all blood and everything.
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And I kept on drinking.
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That's about all. I'm doing six again.
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I think that pretty well expresses the
entire feelings of the whole world.
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One of the nurses had just got a call
from the police dispatcher, and the
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president had been shot.
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He was on his way to the hospital.
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Mrs. Kennedy was kind of standing by the
door. There were two men in the room,
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and I assume they were the driver or
secret service people.
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They very rapidly...
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stepped aside when we came in. He said,
Ms. Kennedy stood by the door for a long
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time.
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A priest walked out and he said, at 1 p
.m. the president
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died. And I just, I couldn't believe it.
It was like, God, no, please, no, no,
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no, no, no.
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I didn't even know my picture had been
taken until the next day.
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All I remember is crying.
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I'm in my office in the L .A. Bureau,
and I suddenly got the shot. Dick
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Kennedy's been shot in Dallas, and New
York said, how fast can you get to
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Dallas?
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I went into the Adolphus Hotel to set up
an office, and I got a phone call from
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a colleague that a local businessman had
photographed the assassination from
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beginning to end with an 8mm home movie
camera, and she...
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phonetically pronounced his name. She
said, Zapruder.
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And I picked up the Dallas phone book
and ran my finger down the Zs, and there
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it was, Zapruder Abraham.
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I called him.
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No answer.
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I called every 15 minutes for the next
five hours.
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You have the film in your camera. Yes, I
brought it on the studio. We'll try to
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get that processed and have it as soon
as possible.
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They were trying to develop those
pictures, but they couldn't develop them
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because they were colored pictures.
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And we had to go to Eastman.
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The FBI said, we want you to shut your
machines down and process the film we
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have here.
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It took quite a few hours until we got
those pictures developed. It was about 9
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.30 that night.
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And that's the first time I saw these
pictures.
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Then Zapruder's film came on.
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And number one, it was needle sharp.
Two, the color was beautiful.
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The focus was locked in perfect.
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All during the movies, there's not a
sound, not a sound except the projector.
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And when the projector was turned off,
it had to have been three, four, or five
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seconds like this. Nothing.
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When one voice said, my God.
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I had three copies made, plus the
original.
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One was given to Secret Service in
Dallas.
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One copy I brought to the FBI.
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And the third copy I had for myself.
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And Zapruder had found something, and he
left.
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And Zapruder and I walked out in the
street. We said, what a night.
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And he went home, and I went home.
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At 11 o 'clock, this weary voice
answered.
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Mr. Sapruder had been contacted by other
reporters, and he'd asked them to come
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to his office at 9, and I got there at
8.
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He said, I'm about to show the film to
two secret service agents. So the three
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of us went into this tiny whitewashed
room, and this old rickety 8 -millimeter
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projector.
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He turned to us and he said, are you
ready?
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Turn it on.
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And there was the motorcade coming
around the corner, and then the
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limousine disappears behind a huge road
sign.
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When it comes out, the president has
both of his fists jammed up underneath
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chin.
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He had been hit by the first bullet to
hit him.
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And suddenly, we get to what we now know
is the infamous frame 313,
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where the whole top of the president's
head just explodes up into the air.
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When that happened, the three of us all
reacted with, It was as if
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we had been simultaneously gut -punched.
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Once I saw that film, I thought, There
is no way in hell that Life magazine
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is not going to wind up with that film.
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I said, that's an amazing piece of film,
Mrs. Perter.
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I think it belongs in Life magazine.
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We might even pay five, ten, maybe even
$15 ,000 for that.
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And I finally got to $50 ,000, and I
said, if we have to go any higher than
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that, I'm going to have to call New
York.
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He looked up at me, and he said, let's
do it.
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So I sat down at his typewriter, typed
out a nine -line contract,
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and I walked out the back door.
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with what turned out to be the most
famous home movie in American history.
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It was then determined that Vice
President Johnson needed to take the
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office.
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I received a message.
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Mrs. Kennedy wanted to see me, and she
simply reached out her hand and took my
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hand and said, What's going to happen to
you now, Mr. Hill?
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And I told her that I would be okay.
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It was rather strange that she should
think of me at this particular time when
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she was so concerned about what was
really happening with her husband.
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But it was very, very nice, very
thoughtful.
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I guess the real legacy will be that I
tried but I failed in attempting to
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intervene between the president and the
assassin.
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Across the world, there's shock and
grief at the assassination of President
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Kennedy. A national day of mourning is
declared by President Johnson.
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President Kennedy's body lay in state in
the rotunda of the U .S. Capitol
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building. One million people lined the
funeral route before President John F.
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Kennedy was laid to rest at Arlington
National Cemetery in Virginia.
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That week's issue of Life was already on
press when the president was shot.
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They made black and white copies because
it was too late to do color at that
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point.
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Out of deference to the grieving Kennedy
family, they did not publish the
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headshot, frame 313.
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The copy of the film that went to New
York was then seen by corporate
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executives, not only editors.
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They were so stunned they decided they
wanted to buy all rights.
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I called Abe Subruder about getting the
additional rights. It was a total of
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$150 ,000 for all rights.
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It's in a police car. Number 10.
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At the Texas Theater in the Oak Cliff
section of Dallas, a 24 -year -old man
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suspected of the assassination of the
president has been arrested.
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Lee Harvey Oswald is also accused of
shooting dead a Dallas police officer, J
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.D. Tippett, while making his getaway.
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Mr. Zapruder wanted to avoid public
criticism for selling this film.
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His lawyer finally said, I have a
suggestion.
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You know, there's a funding set up for
all the Tippett family.
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I would suggest that you give that first
$25 ,000 to
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the Tippett family.
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And Mr. Zapruder agreed instantly.
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The Warren Commission has today
concluded that the assassination of
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John F. Kennedy was the work of lone
gunman Lee Harvey Oswald.
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No evidence was found of a conspiracy to
kill the president, nor was there
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evidence of a conspiracy behind Oswald's
murder two days later by nightclub
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owner Jack Ruby, who fired the fatal
shot inside the precincts of a Dallas
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police station.
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The Warren Commission noted Mr. Abraham
Zapruder's home movie as being most
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helpful in establishing what happened
when the president was killed.
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When President Kennedy was assassinated
here in Dallas, Abraham Zapruder was
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standing on this concrete parapet with
an 8mm camera.
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And with that camera, he recorded the
tragedy.
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Mr. Zapruder, certainly no one had a...
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better view of the assassination than
you did.
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Did you then and do you now agree with
the findings of the Warren Commission?
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Yes, I absolutely do.
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In fact, I'm more convinced now because
of these controversial publications
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coming out.
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I took more of a little interest to read
it more carefully, and I find that the
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findings of the Warren Commission are
more substantial than they are doubt.
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They have no fact, no reason to believe
that there was
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somebody else. They're just spicking, or
rather looking at the hole instead of
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the donut.
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Despite the Warren Commission finding,
conspiracy theories continue.
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Critics claim Life magazine's refusal to
publicly release the Zapruder film is
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part of a high -level cover -up.
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I think for my grandfather, it was
largely a matter of feeling that he
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trust Life magazine to handle the film
with care and with responsibility and
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that it would be protected and it
wouldn't be exploited, which was a very
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fear of his.
463
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But then gradually, bootleg copies
started to get out. They started to
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circulate.
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It was 12 years from 1963.
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until 1975 when the film was shown for
the first time on national television.
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The very idea that something of this
magnitude could be kept from the
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public for 12 years is astonishing.
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I'm telling you right straight out that
if you are at all sensitive, if you're
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at all queasy, then don't watch this
film.
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put on the uh the late night movie uh
because this is uh very heavy it's the
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film shot by the dallas dress
manufacturer abraham uh zapruda and it's
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execution of president kennedy and now
at the bottom of the screen
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the headshot that's the shot that blew
up his head it's the most horrifying
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thing i've ever seen in the movies now
the warren commission said that All of
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the shots were fired from behind by Lee
Harvey Oswald, and as you can see,
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clearly, the head is thrown violently
backwards, completely consistent with
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shot from the front.
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I had this treasure.
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I was going to share it. I was going to
get people to believe what I believed,
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and we were going to rewrite history
together.
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The next day, we get the ratings, and
the ratings went through the roof.
483
00:40:58,510 --> 00:41:03,830
I'd like to know, Mr. Zapruder, your 8mm
film lends support to several theories
484
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and is the basis for the present
controversy surrounding the
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The shots came from someplace other than
a book depository building.
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No, as a matter of fact, I heard some
comments about this and I went back to
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place where I stood when I shot these
pictures.
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I believe I would have heard a different
sound, a shot coming from my right ear.
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00:41:26,430 --> 00:41:27,970
The shots would have...
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sounded much different.
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00:41:29,690 --> 00:41:31,870
I did not hear any different shots.
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They have no substantial evidence of any
second party being involved or
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conspirators being involved, yet they're
right about it.
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Sensational literature.
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That's what I think.
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00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:57,650
And after weeks and if not months of our
own probe and talking to everybody,
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I came reluctantly to the conclusion
that Lee Harvey Oswald alone, acting
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killed John Kennedy, you know, the
greatest man on earth.
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Legally, we couldn't give the film to
the National Archives. We had to give
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Zapruder family an opportunity to buy
it.
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00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,980
And in the end, we decided to return it
to the family for $1.
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00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:30,200
Later, the arbitration between the
federal government and the Sepurita
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took place.
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00:42:31,980 --> 00:42:38,620
And then one day, I opened the paper and
I see the family has just gotten $16
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00:42:38,620 --> 00:42:40,320
million for the film.
506
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,900
The financial outcome was perfectly
fine.
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00:42:48,180 --> 00:42:49,300
There was no celebration.
508
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,380
This is what the arbitrators had
decided.
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00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:52,960
It seemed fair.
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00:42:54,570 --> 00:43:00,370
Over time, that film became less and
less ours and more and more belonged to
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00:43:00,370 --> 00:43:01,370
American public.
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00:43:03,870 --> 00:43:08,650
The film speaks to the total frailty of
human life.
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Everything changes.
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00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:12,850
And then it could happen to them.
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00:43:13,330 --> 00:43:17,910
You know, the most beautiful, powerful
couple in the world, smiling and waving,
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00:43:18,030 --> 00:43:23,690
and she's incredibly gorgeous, and he's
so handsome, and then he...
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00:43:23,980 --> 00:43:27,340
gone, he's dead, and she's sprawled on
the back of the car.
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00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:33,720
People say that the 1950s ended when
Kennedy was assassinated, that these
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editors at Life magazine, these white
guys and their ties, that they were the
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00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,620
ones who were deciding what the American
people should and shouldn't see.
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00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,500
But by 1975, you know, that was over.
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00:43:45,980 --> 00:43:46,980
That was over.
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00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:56,580
Abe Zapruder was stunned by what had
happened. You have to keep remembering,
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00:43:56,580 --> 00:43:59,260
have all seen the film.
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00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:03,660
Abe Zapruder saw the president being
murdered.
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00:44:04,300 --> 00:44:10,200
And, I mean, in many ways, I don't think
he ever quite got over that experience.
527
00:44:14,500 --> 00:44:19,620
Mr. Zapruder, have you taken any more
movies since that fateful day here?
528
00:44:21,110 --> 00:44:26,610
No, I'm sorry to say I used to be an art
and movie taker, and after that
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00:44:26,610 --> 00:44:33,250
tragedy, somehow I lost, I don't know
what it's called, an appetite or a
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00:44:33,250 --> 00:44:39,010
to take pictures. I'm sorry. I have a
beautiful grandchildren growing up. I'd
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love to take some movies of them, but
somehow I'll have to get back to them.
532
00:44:43,610 --> 00:44:46,350
somehow I just didn't have the desire to
do so.
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00:45:10,380 --> 00:45:12,900
The loss was great. It was an
inspiration to the youth.
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00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:34,120
And I believe that our country wasn't
what it is.
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00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:36,240
Strong.
536
00:45:37,710 --> 00:45:41,710
But it could withstand a shock like
this. Would this be in another country
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00:45:41,710 --> 00:45:43,850
they have a one -man government?
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00:45:44,850 --> 00:45:50,530
A terrible tragedy could be to the whole
country if they weren't as strong as we
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00:45:50,530 --> 00:45:54,670
are. That's, I agree, the loss I think
was to this country.
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