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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,362 --> 00:00:11,451 LILY: It was raining. 2 00:00:11,494 --> 00:00:14,367 One of those scary, pounding rains 3 00:00:14,410 --> 00:00:15,977 where the wind makes it sound 4 00:00:16,021 --> 00:00:18,414 like a locomotive is right outside your window. 5 00:00:18,458 --> 00:00:20,982 We were all asleep. 6 00:00:21,026 --> 00:00:23,332 But even with the sound of the winds howling, 7 00:00:23,376 --> 00:00:27,336 there was all of a sudden this boom. 8 00:00:27,380 --> 00:00:30,687 I thought that a helicopter or a plane had fallen 9 00:00:30,731 --> 00:00:32,733 into the building. 10 00:00:37,129 --> 00:00:40,088 My friends Claire and Finn were lying in bed together 11 00:00:40,132 --> 00:00:42,438 when they were crushed by the weight of the beam 12 00:00:42,482 --> 00:00:44,440 as it crashed through the ceiling. 13 00:00:48,270 --> 00:00:51,491 This building was built in the 1870s. 14 00:00:51,534 --> 00:00:55,712 It was a cigar factory for 75 years. 15 00:00:56,757 --> 00:00:58,889 Then it was a sweatshop 16 00:00:58,933 --> 00:01:01,631 for another 20 or so. 17 00:01:01,675 --> 00:01:05,983 Then a import-export warehouse, I think. 18 00:01:06,027 --> 00:01:07,637 Then about five years ago, 19 00:01:07,681 --> 00:01:10,510 the city came around and told the owner 20 00:01:10,553 --> 00:01:12,947 that he'd have to make a lot of improvements 21 00:01:12,990 --> 00:01:15,167 if he wanted to keep leasing the space. 22 00:01:15,210 --> 00:01:17,604 Indoor plumbing, for one thing. 23 00:01:17,647 --> 00:01:21,086 Decent heat and electric. 24 00:01:21,129 --> 00:01:23,088 Owner said no. 25 00:01:23,131 --> 00:01:25,220 Apparently, he lives in Asia somewhere. 26 00:01:25,264 --> 00:01:28,093 So they've been in a standoff ever since. 27 00:01:30,182 --> 00:01:31,879 CHUNK: And no one ever noticed 28 00:01:31,922 --> 00:01:34,534 a dozen squatters living in here? 29 00:01:41,062 --> 00:01:42,672 Lily... 30 00:01:42,716 --> 00:01:44,718 did you know that your friend Claire 31 00:01:44,761 --> 00:01:46,894 came from a wealthy family? 32 00:01:46,937 --> 00:01:48,896 I had no idea. 33 00:01:48,939 --> 00:01:50,637 I looked at the court papers. 34 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,291 You're the only one named. 35 00:01:52,334 --> 00:01:54,467 The only one being sued. 36 00:01:54,510 --> 00:01:57,992 Any idea why Claire's mother would single you out? 37 00:01:59,036 --> 00:02:02,127 I guess because I found the place, 38 00:02:02,170 --> 00:02:04,129 told everybody else about it. 39 00:02:04,172 --> 00:02:07,001 Nah. I think there's got to be more. 40 00:02:08,263 --> 00:02:12,093 I'm worried that... it's about something else. 41 00:02:12,137 --> 00:02:15,531 Sometimes when people can't convince the district attorney 42 00:02:15,575 --> 00:02:19,013 to bring criminal charges, they'll file a civil suit. 43 00:02:19,056 --> 00:02:20,971 Think of it as a dress rehearsal, 44 00:02:21,015 --> 00:02:23,713 a way that a plaintiff can convince a D.A. 45 00:02:23,757 --> 00:02:26,542 that there's a case worth trying here. 46 00:02:26,586 --> 00:02:28,457 So what are you saying? 47 00:02:28,501 --> 00:02:31,025 I'm saying that if we don't win this first case, 48 00:02:31,068 --> 00:02:32,896 we might be looking at a second one, 49 00:02:32,940 --> 00:02:37,684 one where you're facingup to ten to 15 years in prison. 50 00:02:39,599 --> 00:02:41,775 She was...she was 19 years old. 51 00:02:41,818 --> 00:02:44,821 She had her whole lifein front of her. 52 00:02:44,865 --> 00:02:46,997 Forgive me, Ms. Waters, 53 00:02:47,041 --> 00:02:51,001 but clearly, you and your family do all right. 54 00:02:51,045 --> 00:02:53,700 How did your late daughter wind up living 55 00:02:53,743 --> 00:02:56,050 in a rough neighborhood like Chinatown? 56 00:02:57,138 --> 00:03:01,447 My daughter and I were in a period of, uh, estrangement. 57 00:03:01,490 --> 00:03:04,145 She... 58 00:03:04,189 --> 00:03:07,148 she had decided to leave collegein her sophomore year, 59 00:03:07,192 --> 00:03:10,456 and I decided that was not something I could support. 60 00:03:10,499 --> 00:03:12,240 She wanted to be a painter. 61 00:03:12,284 --> 00:03:14,286 She thought that college was a waste of time. 62 00:03:14,329 --> 00:03:17,985 I see.Her mind wasmade up, and... 63 00:03:18,028 --> 00:03:20,292 so was mine. 64 00:03:20,335 --> 00:03:23,643 I cut her off financially. 65 00:03:24,905 --> 00:03:26,994 I-I wasn't trying to hurt her. 66 00:03:27,037 --> 00:03:30,606 I was trying to... shock her into reconsidering. 67 00:03:30,650 --> 00:03:31,781 [scoffs softly] 68 00:03:31,825 --> 00:03:34,262 [quietly]: S-Stupid. 69 00:03:35,307 --> 00:03:37,874 And the young man who died, 70 00:03:37,918 --> 00:03:40,181 Finn Danford, was he a boyfriend? 71 00:03:40,225 --> 00:03:42,357 I suppose. 72 00:03:42,401 --> 00:03:45,665 Probably a big part of the reason she left school. 73 00:03:45,708 --> 00:03:48,145 But as I say... 74 00:03:48,189 --> 00:03:51,236 we were not speaking by that point. 75 00:03:53,194 --> 00:03:54,326 Is this it? 76 00:03:54,369 --> 00:03:56,110 DRIVER:Yes, ma'am. 77 00:03:57,590 --> 00:03:59,548 BENNY: The fire department 78 00:03:59,592 --> 00:04:01,594 gave me a key to the padlock, so... 79 00:04:01,637 --> 00:04:03,204 EVELYN: I don't see 80 00:04:03,248 --> 00:04:05,119 any padlock. 81 00:04:10,907 --> 00:04:12,257 Oh, my goodness. 82 00:04:12,300 --> 00:04:14,650 Chunk? 83 00:04:14,694 --> 00:04:16,696 What are you doing here? 84 00:04:16,739 --> 00:04:18,088 I'm here with my client. 85 00:04:18,132 --> 00:04:19,960 Lily Knowles. 86 00:04:20,003 --> 00:04:22,092 Oh, my... [sighs] 87 00:04:22,136 --> 00:04:24,138 I think we may have a problem here. 88 00:04:24,181 --> 00:04:25,966 This is myclient, 89 00:04:26,009 --> 00:04:28,316 Claire Waters's mother, Evelyn Waters. 90 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,449 Oh, my God, M-Mrs. Waters, I'm so sorry. I... 91 00:04:30,492 --> 00:04:32,102 No, no, no,that-that's enough. 92 00:04:32,146 --> 00:04:35,280 That's enough.Ms. Waters, I have to tell you something. 93 00:04:35,323 --> 00:04:37,934 Mr. Palmer here and I are not just friends. 94 00:04:37,978 --> 00:04:39,153 We're colleagues. 95 00:04:39,196 --> 00:04:41,329 We work at the same firm. 96 00:04:41,373 --> 00:04:43,244 I don't understand. 97 00:04:43,288 --> 00:04:45,072 Neither do I.Well... 98 00:04:45,115 --> 00:04:47,074 the short version is... 99 00:04:47,117 --> 00:04:51,078 I'm afraid we might be staringat a conflict of interest. 100 00:04:51,121 --> 00:04:53,210 Who might be? 101 00:04:53,254 --> 00:04:54,951 All of us. 102 00:04:54,995 --> 00:04:57,519 BENNY: In my 20-some-odd years of doing this for a living, 103 00:04:57,563 --> 00:04:59,739 I can honestly say that I have never, 104 00:04:59,782 --> 00:05:01,915 ever been as professionally embarrassed 105 00:05:01,958 --> 00:05:03,438 as I was this morning. 106 00:05:03,482 --> 00:05:06,833 I-I... I truly did not know what to say to that woman. 107 00:05:06,876 --> 00:05:08,965 Just tell her that you're sorryfor wasting her time, 108 00:05:09,009 --> 00:05:11,620 but your esteemed colleague got there first. Case closed! 109 00:05:11,664 --> 00:05:13,405 Chunk! 110 00:05:13,448 --> 00:05:15,407 BENNY: All I know is, I got a call last night 111 00:05:15,450 --> 00:05:17,365 from an attorney friend of mine. 112 00:05:17,409 --> 00:05:19,454 He has a very wealthy client whose daughter died 113 00:05:19,498 --> 00:05:21,282 in a tragic accident. 114 00:05:21,326 --> 00:05:22,849 They went to the D.A.'s office 115 00:05:22,892 --> 00:05:25,068 hoping to file some criminal charges. 116 00:05:25,112 --> 00:05:28,071 The D.A. demurred,suggested they file a civil suit 117 00:05:28,115 --> 00:05:30,378 and recommended me and this firm 118 00:05:30,422 --> 00:05:32,511 as the right folks to get the job done. 119 00:05:32,554 --> 00:05:34,687 Ah. I like the sound of that. 120 00:05:34,730 --> 00:05:36,253 Mr. Palmer? 121 00:05:36,297 --> 00:05:38,604 I was just doing what you told me to do. 122 00:05:38,647 --> 00:05:40,388 And what was that? 123 00:05:40,432 --> 00:05:41,998 Remember? You said to me, 124 00:05:42,042 --> 00:05:44,479 "I'm thrilled to add you to the roster as an attorney, 125 00:05:44,523 --> 00:05:47,613 "but, uh, no one's walking in the door asking for you. 126 00:05:47,656 --> 00:05:49,005 "No one knows you exist. 127 00:05:49,049 --> 00:05:51,138 "So for the foreseeable future, 128 00:05:51,181 --> 00:05:52,400 "I'm gonna assign you some cases, 129 00:05:52,444 --> 00:05:54,489 "I'm gonna throw you some pro bono work. 130 00:05:54,533 --> 00:05:57,753 "But what you reallyshould do is get out there and hustle. 131 00:05:57,797 --> 00:05:59,407 "Anything to get in a courtroom. 132 00:05:59,451 --> 00:06:00,626 "Anything to help 133 00:06:00,669 --> 00:06:02,105 the legal community see you in action." 134 00:06:02,149 --> 00:06:03,498 And that's your hustle? 135 00:06:03,542 --> 00:06:05,587 A squatter who basically led a young couple 136 00:06:05,631 --> 00:06:08,329 to their death by allowing themto live in a building 137 00:06:08,373 --> 00:06:11,680 that the city declared wasn't fit for occupancy. 138 00:06:11,724 --> 00:06:14,988 I thought the idea was to bring in cases we can win. 139 00:06:15,031 --> 00:06:16,990 That "squatter" has a name. 140 00:06:17,033 --> 00:06:19,427 Lily Knowles... was referred to me 141 00:06:19,471 --> 00:06:21,951 by an organization called New York Artists for the Future. 142 00:06:21,995 --> 00:06:24,432 I did some work for them in the law clinic at school, 143 00:06:24,476 --> 00:06:27,043 so when the situation came up, they asked if I could help. 144 00:06:27,087 --> 00:06:28,697 A-And by the way, 145 00:06:28,741 --> 00:06:31,874 this is exactly the kind of caseyou were talking to me about. 146 00:06:31,918 --> 00:06:35,182 And I happen to think that thisis a completely winnable case. 147 00:06:35,225 --> 00:06:37,184 The girl is being set up. 148 00:06:37,227 --> 00:06:39,752 She has no legal culpability for those two deaths. 149 00:06:39,795 --> 00:06:41,667 Well, that's for the jury to decide. 150 00:06:41,710 --> 00:06:43,408 And you seem 151 00:06:43,451 --> 00:06:46,759 to be forgetting: my client is the aggrieved party here. 152 00:06:46,802 --> 00:06:48,543 First of all, you don't have a client. 153 00:06:48,587 --> 00:06:50,893 Neither one of us does until this man 154 00:06:50,937 --> 00:06:52,199 says so. 155 00:06:52,242 --> 00:06:53,853 And as far as aggrieved goes, 156 00:06:53,896 --> 00:06:56,421 that woman is worth acouple hundred million dollars, 157 00:06:56,464 --> 00:06:59,032 and she's suing a kid who doesn't have a pot to... 158 00:06:59,075 --> 00:07:01,338 Her daughter is dead! 159 00:07:02,427 --> 00:07:04,124 And since you're bringing up her money, 160 00:07:04,167 --> 00:07:06,648 this is probably as good a timeas any to remind everyone 161 00:07:06,692 --> 00:07:09,956 that she's actually prepared to pay for our services. 162 00:07:09,999 --> 00:07:13,307 Something I strongly suspect your client is not. 163 00:07:15,657 --> 00:07:18,007 The man makes a particularly cogent point. 164 00:07:18,051 --> 00:07:20,314 Look, I'm worried that if I don't defend this girl 165 00:07:20,357 --> 00:07:22,534 and get her acquitted, she's gonna be facing 166 00:07:22,577 --> 00:07:25,667 a lifetime of debt-- not to mention what happens 167 00:07:25,711 --> 00:07:28,540 if they decide to bring criminal charges. 168 00:07:29,584 --> 00:07:31,630 Do you honestly think 169 00:07:31,673 --> 00:07:34,023 you're the only person that can possibly represent her? 170 00:07:34,067 --> 00:07:35,372 No. 171 00:07:35,416 --> 00:07:37,592 But I do believe that I can get her acquitted. 172 00:07:37,636 --> 00:07:39,768 I believe in her.And I believe 173 00:07:39,812 --> 00:07:42,554 she's being unfairly prosecuted.Come on. 174 00:07:42,597 --> 00:07:44,207 That warehouse was a death trap. 175 00:07:44,251 --> 00:07:46,471 She had no business enticing people to live there. 176 00:07:46,514 --> 00:07:48,473 She was trying to foster a community of artists. 177 00:07:48,516 --> 00:07:50,170 She was trying to live 178 00:07:50,213 --> 00:07:53,347 rent-free with her friendsin a place she had no claim to! 179 00:07:53,390 --> 00:07:54,696 Man, you are so cold! 180 00:07:54,740 --> 00:07:56,219 I'm cold? You're naive! 181 00:07:56,263 --> 00:07:57,612 This isn't legal aid. 182 00:07:57,656 --> 00:07:59,527 People are supposed to pay for the privilege 183 00:07:59,571 --> 00:08:01,094 of having us represent them. 184 00:08:01,137 --> 00:08:03,488 And it's actually good for business if they're innocent. 185 00:08:03,531 --> 00:08:04,576 Enough! 186 00:08:08,710 --> 00:08:11,670 I have no idea what to do here. 187 00:08:11,713 --> 00:08:14,107 Chunk, how much work have you done on this? 188 00:08:14,150 --> 00:08:15,543 We talked on the phone briefly 189 00:08:15,587 --> 00:08:17,327 a couple of times earlier this week. 190 00:08:17,371 --> 00:08:20,026 Short calls. Finally met face-to-face this morning. 191 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,596 I spoke with Evelyn for the first time two hours ago. 192 00:08:24,639 --> 00:08:27,555 Well, then I have no choice-- we have to go with Chunk, 193 00:08:27,599 --> 00:08:29,339 otherwise we're conflicted out. 194 00:08:29,383 --> 00:08:31,603 Here's a crazy idea. I mean, what if... 195 00:08:31,646 --> 00:08:34,257 TAC did represent both clients? 196 00:08:34,301 --> 00:08:36,651 Benny, you know as well as I dothe likelihood of the court 197 00:08:36,695 --> 00:08:38,566 going along with something like that is one in a million. 198 00:08:38,610 --> 00:08:40,133 You don't know until you ask. 199 00:08:40,176 --> 00:08:41,874 More importantly, your client is never gonna go for it. 200 00:08:41,917 --> 00:08:45,573 Why should she pay you, knowing weare representing 201 00:08:45,617 --> 00:08:47,270 her opponent and doing it for free? 202 00:08:47,314 --> 00:08:48,576 All excellent arguments. 203 00:08:48,620 --> 00:08:51,318 I'm just asking for permission to try. 204 00:08:55,322 --> 00:09:00,066 Fine. If you can get the courtsand all the principals to agree, 205 00:09:00,109 --> 00:09:02,329 then TAC will be happy 206 00:09:02,372 --> 00:09:04,636 to represent both sides.Could happen. 207 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,507 Right after that blizzard in hell. 208 00:09:06,551 --> 00:09:09,466 Hey, did you see that pig just fly by? 209 00:09:13,558 --> 00:09:15,560 ♪ 210 00:09:22,218 --> 00:09:24,133 I would feel like a fool going into court 211 00:09:24,177 --> 00:09:25,700 under these circumstances. 212 00:09:25,744 --> 00:09:28,573 I know how it sounds. 213 00:09:28,616 --> 00:09:30,009 I know how it feels. 214 00:09:30,052 --> 00:09:33,055 But... I would be remiss if I didn't point out to you 215 00:09:33,099 --> 00:09:35,841 that there are certain... benefits going to court 216 00:09:35,884 --> 00:09:38,278 with someone who knows the other side so well, 217 00:09:38,321 --> 00:09:41,890 someone who can predict theirevery move before they make it. 218 00:09:41,934 --> 00:09:43,152 Be that as it may... 219 00:09:43,196 --> 00:09:44,980 See, the first thing that will happen is, 220 00:09:45,024 --> 00:09:47,069 the defense will file a motion to sever. 221 00:09:47,113 --> 00:09:49,289 That means they'll try and force you to have 222 00:09:49,332 --> 00:09:52,858 three separate trials-- one against the city, 223 00:09:52,901 --> 00:09:54,120 one against the property owner, 224 00:09:54,163 --> 00:09:55,251 and one against Lily. 225 00:09:55,295 --> 00:09:57,950 And then there's the Friday trick. 226 00:09:57,993 --> 00:09:59,647 What's the Friday trick? 227 00:09:59,691 --> 00:10:02,868 Chester Palmer-- he'sthe attorney representing Lily-- 228 00:10:02,911 --> 00:10:04,783 will say he has a scheduling conflict. 229 00:10:04,826 --> 00:10:08,003 He'll ask for the trial to commence on a Friday. 230 00:10:08,047 --> 00:10:09,831 So?Worst day 231 00:10:09,875 --> 00:10:12,268 for a plaintiff, for you to start. 232 00:10:12,312 --> 00:10:14,401 You'd much rather start on a Monday. 233 00:10:14,444 --> 00:10:16,925 That way, you have five days to build momentum. 234 00:10:16,969 --> 00:10:18,927 You want to rest your case on a Friday, 235 00:10:18,971 --> 00:10:20,320 so the jury has 236 00:10:20,363 --> 00:10:21,930 all weekend to think about it. 237 00:10:21,974 --> 00:10:24,759 Then they'll be more likely to form an opinion 238 00:10:24,803 --> 00:10:26,892 that's favorable to your side. 239 00:10:26,935 --> 00:10:30,765 Chester Palmer sounds like a very smart man. 240 00:10:30,809 --> 00:10:33,812 Well, he learned from the best. 241 00:10:33,855 --> 00:10:35,944 Oh. One more thing. 242 00:10:35,988 --> 00:10:38,947 The other side will try to maneuver so that the case 243 00:10:38,991 --> 00:10:41,689 appears in front of a defense-friendly judge, 244 00:10:41,733 --> 00:10:44,083 someone more inclined to rule in their favor, 245 00:10:44,126 --> 00:10:45,519 give them the benefit of a doubt. 246 00:10:45,562 --> 00:10:48,000 Now, I'm thinking Judge Tessa Hudson. 247 00:10:48,043 --> 00:10:51,699 We've stood before her many times, and... 248 00:10:51,743 --> 00:10:54,267 I happen to know she's up in the rotation. 249 00:10:54,310 --> 00:10:57,270 Judge Tessa Hudson. 250 00:10:57,313 --> 00:10:58,750 [gavel banging]Good morning. 251 00:10:58,793 --> 00:11:02,057 Just so everybody understands how the COVID of it all 252 00:11:02,101 --> 00:11:03,624 works in my courtroom, 253 00:11:03,668 --> 00:11:07,541 I am behind plexiglass and I am socially distanced 254 00:11:07,584 --> 00:11:09,674 from everyone, so please don't let the fact that I am 255 00:11:09,717 --> 00:11:12,981 not wearing a mask cause you any concern. 256 00:11:13,025 --> 00:11:15,854 Witnesses are also seated behind plexiglass 257 00:11:15,897 --> 00:11:17,769 and are socially distanced. 258 00:11:17,812 --> 00:11:19,814 We feel it's important for the jurors 259 00:11:19,858 --> 00:11:22,599 to see their entire faces. 260 00:11:22,643 --> 00:11:25,428 Jurors are behind plexiglass and are required 261 00:11:25,472 --> 00:11:26,995 to wear masks because even though 262 00:11:27,039 --> 00:11:29,084 they are socially distanced, 263 00:11:29,128 --> 00:11:31,217 they are in a congregant group. 264 00:11:31,260 --> 00:11:33,523 And we are determined to keep them as safe 265 00:11:33,567 --> 00:11:35,395 as is humanly possible. 266 00:11:35,438 --> 00:11:38,093 As for the defense and plaintiff tables, 267 00:11:38,137 --> 00:11:39,747 whether or not you wear a mask is 268 00:11:39,791 --> 00:11:41,793 totally up to you and your clients. 269 00:11:41,836 --> 00:11:44,491 You are far enough away that proximity should 270 00:11:44,534 --> 00:11:46,014 not pose an issue. 271 00:11:46,058 --> 00:11:48,147 The only other rule for you is 272 00:11:48,190 --> 00:11:50,192 no more than two people at the table-- 273 00:11:50,236 --> 00:11:53,108 presumably the principal attorney and the client. 274 00:11:53,152 --> 00:11:56,633 All right, let's see if we can come to some kind 275 00:11:56,677 --> 00:11:59,462 of consensus on a trial date. 276 00:11:59,506 --> 00:12:01,682 If it pleases the court, 277 00:12:01,726 --> 00:12:02,988 Your Honor, my schedule is 278 00:12:03,031 --> 00:12:04,554 pretty tight this week. 279 00:12:04,598 --> 00:12:06,643 I'd ask the court's indulgencethat I be able to impanel 280 00:12:06,687 --> 00:12:08,645 on Thursday and beginthe trial on Friday. 281 00:12:08,689 --> 00:12:10,865 HUDSON: All right. 282 00:12:10,909 --> 00:12:13,041 There's no objection from the plaintiff, I assume? 283 00:12:14,869 --> 00:12:19,439 Well, actually, we'd prefer to start earlier in the week. 284 00:12:19,482 --> 00:12:21,746 Speak plainly, Counsel.Are you not available on Friday? 285 00:12:22,877 --> 00:12:25,575 I am, but...Okay, Friday it is. 286 00:12:25,619 --> 00:12:28,840 Splendid. Now, does the defense wish to be heard 287 00:12:28,883 --> 00:12:30,493 on the motion to sever? 288 00:12:30,537 --> 00:12:32,060 Your Honor... 289 00:12:32,104 --> 00:12:34,715 obviously my client's defenseis in direct conflict 290 00:12:34,759 --> 00:12:36,151 with the othertwo defendants-- 291 00:12:36,195 --> 00:12:38,501 the building owner and the city. 292 00:12:38,545 --> 00:12:40,808 One is basicallyan impoverished individual with 293 00:12:40,852 --> 00:12:44,246 no direct responsibility forthe condition of the building, 294 00:12:44,290 --> 00:12:46,596 whereas the other two are substantial entities 295 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,599 with access to abundant resources. 296 00:12:49,643 --> 00:12:50,949 Holding all three trialstogether 297 00:12:50,992 --> 00:12:52,864 would absolutely pose 298 00:12:52,907 --> 00:12:53,952 undue prejudice. 299 00:12:53,995 --> 00:12:55,736 I would agree with you, Mr. Palmer. 300 00:12:55,780 --> 00:12:57,912 The motion to sever is allowed. 301 00:12:57,956 --> 00:13:00,349 Very well then. 302 00:13:00,393 --> 00:13:02,090 Our next order of business... 303 00:13:02,134 --> 00:13:04,136 Uh... excuse me? 304 00:13:04,179 --> 00:13:06,878 Ms. Waters, where are you going? 305 00:13:06,921 --> 00:13:08,793 This is your trial. 306 00:13:08,836 --> 00:13:10,882 We're all here because of you. 307 00:13:10,925 --> 00:13:12,492 I'm sorry, Judge Hudson. 308 00:13:12,535 --> 00:13:14,146 Uh, please feel free to continue. 309 00:13:14,189 --> 00:13:16,801 I have to make a phone call. 310 00:13:16,844 --> 00:13:18,803 HUDSON: Okay... 311 00:13:18,846 --> 00:13:20,239 run this by me again. 312 00:13:20,282 --> 00:13:22,197 You want to change counsel 313 00:13:22,241 --> 00:13:24,243 one day in?I do. 314 00:13:24,286 --> 00:13:25,940 And you want?BENNY:I am seeking 315 00:13:25,984 --> 00:13:28,725 the court's permissionto file an appearance. 316 00:13:28,769 --> 00:13:30,162 Uh-huh.As you well know, 317 00:13:30,205 --> 00:13:32,468 I'm employedby Dr. Jason Bull 318 00:13:32,512 --> 00:13:34,166 of the Trial Analysis Corporation, 319 00:13:34,209 --> 00:13:35,515 and so is Mr. Palmer, 320 00:13:35,558 --> 00:13:36,908 who is representing 321 00:13:36,951 --> 00:13:38,083 the defendant.Ah. 322 00:13:38,126 --> 00:13:39,824 Isn't this cozy? 323 00:13:39,867 --> 00:13:41,521 A little, perhaps, yes, 324 00:13:41,564 --> 00:13:43,871 but I just wantto state for the record 325 00:13:43,915 --> 00:13:46,134 that I've had no contactwith Mr. Palmer's client. 326 00:13:46,178 --> 00:13:48,267 I've not done any workon her case. 327 00:13:48,310 --> 00:13:49,964 In fact, I didn't even know 328 00:13:50,008 --> 00:13:52,532 that anyone from my firmhad ever even spoken 329 00:13:52,575 --> 00:13:55,143 to the defendant until after Iagreed to represent Ms. Waters. 330 00:13:55,187 --> 00:13:56,449 BULL:Your Honor, 331 00:13:56,492 --> 00:13:58,233 our firm is prepared to avoid any 332 00:13:58,277 --> 00:14:00,192 and all conflicts of interest. 333 00:14:00,235 --> 00:14:03,760 We will happily divide up our resources and our staff, 334 00:14:03,804 --> 00:14:07,939 and if necessary, even the office space itself. 335 00:14:07,982 --> 00:14:09,244 In addition, pursuant 336 00:14:09,288 --> 00:14:10,811 to the New York Rulesof Professional Conduct, 337 00:14:10,855 --> 00:14:13,770 Section 1.7, I have informedmy client of her rights, 338 00:14:13,814 --> 00:14:16,295 and she has signed a noticeof informed consent. 339 00:14:16,338 --> 00:14:18,558 And my client has signed a similar document. 340 00:14:19,602 --> 00:14:21,126 Miss Knowles, 341 00:14:21,169 --> 00:14:23,432 while you cannot select 342 00:14:23,476 --> 00:14:25,913 who represents Ms. Waters, 343 00:14:25,957 --> 00:14:30,962 you are entitled to a lawyerfree of any potential conflict. 344 00:14:31,005 --> 00:14:35,096 Your Honor, I-I want Mr. Palmer to be my attorney. 345 00:14:35,140 --> 00:14:36,793 I trust him. 346 00:14:36,837 --> 00:14:38,447 He gets me. 347 00:14:38,491 --> 00:14:41,537 And plus, he's working for free. 348 00:14:41,581 --> 00:14:43,670 Oh. 349 00:14:43,713 --> 00:14:45,106 Ms. Waters, 350 00:14:45,150 --> 00:14:46,934 what was wrong with the lawyer 351 00:14:46,978 --> 00:14:48,849 who accompanied you in court yesterday 352 00:14:48,893 --> 00:14:49,850 at the motions hearing? 353 00:14:49,894 --> 00:14:52,244 Nothing. He's just not the best, 354 00:14:52,287 --> 00:14:54,942 and Mr. Colón, in my opinion, is. 355 00:14:54,986 --> 00:14:56,248 Uh-huh. 356 00:14:56,291 --> 00:14:58,293 That was subtle. 357 00:14:58,337 --> 00:15:01,862 Well, if, uh, everybody's in agreement, 358 00:15:01,906 --> 00:15:03,429 I'm not gonna stand in your way. 359 00:15:03,472 --> 00:15:05,213 The motion is allowed. 360 00:15:09,087 --> 00:15:10,871 BULL: In order for this to work, 361 00:15:10,915 --> 00:15:12,177 it's absolutely crucial 362 00:15:12,220 --> 00:15:15,049 that there be no sharingof information. Marissa, 363 00:15:15,093 --> 00:15:17,486 I need you to figure out a way to firewall the console 364 00:15:17,530 --> 00:15:19,053 so each team will only have access to their data. 365 00:15:19,097 --> 00:15:20,489 I can do that. 366 00:15:20,533 --> 00:15:21,969 Each side'll have their own password, 367 00:15:22,013 --> 00:15:23,318 and I'll make it so everyone 368 00:15:23,362 --> 00:15:25,668 can log in remotelyfrom their laptops and tablets 369 00:15:25,712 --> 00:15:27,670 so no one's huddled around the monitors in the war room. 370 00:15:27,714 --> 00:15:29,846 Great. Benny,since you are the... 371 00:15:29,890 --> 00:15:31,500 more experienced attorney, 372 00:15:31,544 --> 00:15:33,111 I'm assigning myself to Chunk's team. 373 00:15:33,154 --> 00:15:35,896 Fine. I'll take Marissaand Danny then. 374 00:15:35,940 --> 00:15:37,115 Sorry, Taylor. 375 00:15:37,158 --> 00:15:39,204 It's fine. I like hanging with the boys. 376 00:15:39,247 --> 00:15:41,032 BULL: And, Chunk,if you're good with it, 377 00:15:41,075 --> 00:15:42,772 we'll make my office our workspace? 378 00:15:42,816 --> 00:15:44,905 Room with a view? Solid. 379 00:15:44,949 --> 00:15:47,168 Benny, if you don't mind working down here? 380 00:15:47,212 --> 00:15:48,909 Works for me. 381 00:15:48,953 --> 00:15:50,563 All right. 382 00:16:03,315 --> 00:16:05,317 ♪ 383 00:16:14,065 --> 00:16:17,068 All right, Chunk, it's yourparty. How do you want to start? 384 00:16:17,111 --> 00:16:19,026 Well, obviously, voir dire is the first 385 00:16:19,070 --> 00:16:20,897 order of business. 386 00:16:20,941 --> 00:16:22,812 Since you've done that athousand more times than I have, 387 00:16:22,856 --> 00:16:24,249 what do you think the play is? 388 00:16:24,292 --> 00:16:26,033 We need to find jurors who are open to the idea 389 00:16:26,077 --> 00:16:30,255 that what happened was simply beyond Lily's control. 390 00:16:30,298 --> 00:16:31,604 Which it was. 391 00:16:31,647 --> 00:16:33,258 That's right. In a perfect world, 392 00:16:33,301 --> 00:16:36,913 I'd want to seat intentionalistsand deselect consequentialists. 393 00:16:36,957 --> 00:16:39,394 One more time, for those of us who don't speak PhD? 394 00:16:39,438 --> 00:16:42,310 We want people who will focus not on what happened, 395 00:16:42,354 --> 00:16:44,269 but Lily's intent. 396 00:16:44,312 --> 00:16:46,445 Which was to create housing for her fellow artists 397 00:16:46,488 --> 00:16:48,403 and build a sense of community. 398 00:16:48,447 --> 00:16:50,101 So I have a question. 399 00:16:50,144 --> 00:16:52,233 Claire's boyfriend died in the accident, too. 400 00:16:52,277 --> 00:16:54,061 Why aren't his parents part of this lawsuit? 401 00:16:54,105 --> 00:16:57,064 That is an excellent question. 402 00:16:58,326 --> 00:17:00,633 On it. [clears throat] 403 00:17:00,676 --> 00:17:02,635 BENNY: We... 404 00:17:02,678 --> 00:17:04,332 are suing for wrongful death, 405 00:17:04,376 --> 00:17:06,856 which means we have to prove 406 00:17:06,900 --> 00:17:10,077 Lily knowingly brought Claire into a dangerous situation. 407 00:17:10,121 --> 00:17:12,558 If I know Bull, he is gonna convince Chunk to argue 408 00:17:12,601 --> 00:17:14,995 that Lily was no differentthan any of the other squatters, 409 00:17:15,039 --> 00:17:17,389 that she's no more culpable than the rest of them, 410 00:17:17,432 --> 00:17:19,043 that in fact, she could have just as easily 411 00:17:19,086 --> 00:17:21,610 been underneath that beam as Evelyn's daughter. 412 00:17:21,654 --> 00:17:23,047 Of course that's what he's gonna do. 413 00:17:23,090 --> 00:17:24,352 You knowwhat my grandmother used to say? 414 00:17:24,396 --> 00:17:26,441 "Be careful when you point a finger at someone. 415 00:17:26,485 --> 00:17:30,010 You'll discover there's three fingers pointing back at you." 416 00:17:30,054 --> 00:17:32,665 Come to think of it, we need jurors like your grandmother. 417 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,017 People who think this Lily girlset everything into motion 418 00:17:37,061 --> 00:17:41,804 by breaking into that buildingand inviting others to join her. 419 00:17:41,848 --> 00:17:44,242 Breaking the lawand inviting others to join her. 420 00:17:44,285 --> 00:17:46,635 People who take responsibility for their own actions 421 00:17:46,679 --> 00:17:49,116 and expect others to do the same.Yup. 422 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,685 We need to get rid of anyone who plays the blame game. 423 00:17:52,728 --> 00:17:54,121 Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. 424 00:17:54,165 --> 00:17:56,993 Okay. Let me ask you a question. 425 00:17:57,037 --> 00:17:59,213 Anybody here unhappy at work? 426 00:17:59,257 --> 00:18:01,868 All right.Juror number three, 427 00:18:01,911 --> 00:18:03,130 let's start with you. 428 00:18:03,174 --> 00:18:05,654 So, you are unhappy at your job? 429 00:18:05,698 --> 00:18:10,137 Well, let's just say I made somebad choices when I was younger. 430 00:18:10,181 --> 00:18:14,054 I was too interested in partying, having fun. 431 00:18:14,098 --> 00:18:16,143 I should have focused more on school. 432 00:18:16,187 --> 00:18:19,755 She's self-aware, takes responsibility for her flaws. 433 00:18:19,799 --> 00:18:21,148 I like her. 434 00:18:21,192 --> 00:18:23,324 Not blaming anyone else 435 00:18:23,368 --> 00:18:24,804 for where she is in life. 436 00:18:24,847 --> 00:18:27,154 Sounds like just the person we are looking for. 437 00:18:27,198 --> 00:18:30,462 This juror is acceptable to the plaintiff, Your Honor. 438 00:18:30,505 --> 00:18:32,116 She's exactly who they're looking for. 439 00:18:32,159 --> 00:18:34,074 Your Honor,with your permission, 440 00:18:34,118 --> 00:18:36,772 we would like to thankand excuse juror number three. 441 00:18:36,816 --> 00:18:40,298 ♪ 442 00:18:40,341 --> 00:18:43,910 Who here has ever offered to water your neighbor's plants, 443 00:18:43,953 --> 00:18:46,782 maybe take in their mail while they're on vacation? 444 00:18:46,826 --> 00:18:48,219 Juror number 17. 445 00:18:48,262 --> 00:18:51,091 Neighbor of the year.Tell us your story. 446 00:18:51,135 --> 00:18:54,138 No story. I just agreed to feed my neighbor's cat 447 00:18:54,181 --> 00:18:56,052 when he went to the Jersey Shorea few weeks ago. 448 00:18:56,096 --> 00:18:57,793 That was awfully nice of you. 449 00:18:57,837 --> 00:19:00,144 So let me, uh, ask you this hypothetical. 450 00:19:00,187 --> 00:19:02,972 You're-you're in the apartment,you're feeding the cat. 451 00:19:03,016 --> 00:19:04,974 You accidentally break a vase. 452 00:19:05,018 --> 00:19:06,193 What would you do? 453 00:19:06,237 --> 00:19:07,629 Well, I don't know. 454 00:19:07,673 --> 00:19:10,197 I mean... does he knowI did it? 455 00:19:11,633 --> 00:19:13,940 Maybe the cat knocked it over. 456 00:19:13,983 --> 00:19:16,203 Great. We got a comedian. Taylor, 457 00:19:16,247 --> 00:19:17,248 talk to me. 458 00:19:17,291 --> 00:19:19,337 He's a dentist, sole practitioner. 459 00:19:19,380 --> 00:19:21,817 And an avid mountain climber. 460 00:19:21,861 --> 00:19:23,732 Okay. That helps clarify things. 461 00:19:23,776 --> 00:19:25,560 He's an individualist, which means 462 00:19:25,604 --> 00:19:27,083 he'll be more likely to buy Benny's theory 463 00:19:27,127 --> 00:19:29,129 of personal responsibility. 464 00:19:29,173 --> 00:19:32,872 We'd like to thank and excuse this juror. 465 00:19:32,915 --> 00:19:35,048 And what about you? 466 00:19:35,091 --> 00:19:36,789 Let's say you broke the vase. 467 00:19:36,832 --> 00:19:39,618 Well, then, I'd certainly offerto pay for it. 468 00:19:39,661 --> 00:19:43,230 Now, would it make mea bad person if I secretly hope 469 00:19:43,274 --> 00:19:45,189 my neighbor says, "Don't worry about it"? 470 00:19:45,232 --> 00:19:48,279 No. As long as you're willing to step up. 471 00:19:49,802 --> 00:19:51,760 This juror is acceptable to the plaintiff, Your Honor. 472 00:19:53,153 --> 00:19:54,676 I'll kick her. 473 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,678 Let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater. 474 00:19:56,722 --> 00:19:58,158 I liked her answer. 475 00:19:58,202 --> 00:20:00,856 She was being honest almost to a fault. 476 00:20:00,900 --> 00:20:02,206 Taylor, 477 00:20:02,249 --> 00:20:04,164 tell me something I don't know about this lady. 478 00:20:04,208 --> 00:20:07,167 Well, her Insta's filledwith pictures of gifts she sends 479 00:20:07,211 --> 00:20:09,213 to her kids and grandkids for their birthdays. 480 00:20:09,256 --> 00:20:10,388 Everything's homemade, 481 00:20:10,431 --> 00:20:13,521 everything individual and personalized. 482 00:20:13,565 --> 00:20:15,131 I knew it. 483 00:20:15,175 --> 00:20:17,221 Sounds like she's an intentionalist. 484 00:20:17,264 --> 00:20:18,918 What is that again? 485 00:20:18,961 --> 00:20:22,008 Someone for whom the intention of the deed is more important 486 00:20:22,051 --> 00:20:23,270 than the outcome. 487 00:20:23,314 --> 00:20:24,271 It could also mean she's a cheapskate. 488 00:20:24,315 --> 00:20:25,881 CHUNK:Your Honor, 489 00:20:25,925 --> 00:20:29,320 this juror is also acceptableto the defense. 490 00:20:30,408 --> 00:20:33,280 She is? 491 00:20:33,324 --> 00:20:35,282 What's he know that we don't know? 492 00:20:35,326 --> 00:20:37,284 I don't know.He's Bull. 493 00:20:37,328 --> 00:20:39,765 HUDSON:Ladies and gentlemen,we have our panel. 494 00:20:39,808 --> 00:20:41,375 Juror number 30, 495 00:20:41,419 --> 00:20:44,378 I am appointing you foreperson. 496 00:20:44,422 --> 00:20:47,338 Testimony begins first thing in the morning. 497 00:20:51,385 --> 00:20:53,561 She asleep? 498 00:20:53,605 --> 00:20:55,215 Do you hear her crying? 499 00:20:55,259 --> 00:20:56,172 No. 500 00:20:56,216 --> 00:20:57,783 Well, that's usually 501 00:20:57,826 --> 00:20:59,872 the giveaway. 502 00:21:03,223 --> 00:21:05,225 Do you have any idea why I haven't heard 503 00:21:05,269 --> 00:21:06,792 from my brother all night? 504 00:21:06,835 --> 00:21:09,273 I mean, I've texted and I've called. 505 00:21:09,316 --> 00:21:10,883 It's as if he's off the grid. 506 00:21:10,926 --> 00:21:13,625 He's up first tomorrow. 507 00:21:13,668 --> 00:21:16,932 He's probably at the office putting together his case. 508 00:21:16,976 --> 00:21:20,327 Really? It's after 11:00. 509 00:21:20,371 --> 00:21:24,331 The law is a cruel mistress. 510 00:21:24,375 --> 00:21:26,464 If he's at the office, then why aren't you? 511 00:21:26,507 --> 00:21:29,075 Because I'm here with you.[laughs softly] 512 00:21:29,118 --> 00:21:30,206 HUDSON: Mr. Colón, 513 00:21:30,250 --> 00:21:32,339 you may call your first witness. 514 00:21:32,383 --> 00:21:33,340 Yes, Your Honor. 515 00:21:33,384 --> 00:21:34,950 With the court's permission, 516 00:21:34,994 --> 00:21:38,127 the plaintiff would like to callReggie Craven to the stand. 517 00:21:38,171 --> 00:21:40,304 [door opens] 518 00:21:43,394 --> 00:21:44,743 [quietly]:Who is this? 519 00:21:44,786 --> 00:21:46,353 Remember what I said. 520 00:21:46,397 --> 00:21:48,486 We have to prove that Lily knowingly brought Claire 521 00:21:48,529 --> 00:21:50,488 into a dangerous situation. 522 00:21:50,531 --> 00:21:52,577 Objection. 523 00:21:52,620 --> 00:21:53,926 This is the first 524 00:21:53,969 --> 00:21:55,797 that the defense is hearing about this witness. 525 00:21:55,841 --> 00:21:58,365 His name does not appear on any witness list. 526 00:21:58,409 --> 00:22:00,889 And, frankly, I've never even heard of him. 527 00:22:00,933 --> 00:22:04,110 This is a clear violation of the rules of discovery. 528 00:22:04,153 --> 00:22:07,113 Is this true,Mr. Colón? 529 00:22:07,156 --> 00:22:09,333 Did you fail to provide defense counsel 530 00:22:09,376 --> 00:22:10,682 with a complete witness list 531 00:22:10,725 --> 00:22:13,772 prior to the start of proceedings this morning? 532 00:22:13,815 --> 00:22:17,166 Your Honor, Mr. Craven has beenextremely difficult to locate. 533 00:22:17,210 --> 00:22:19,517 He doesn't havea permanent address, 534 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,388 and we weren't able to make contact with him 535 00:22:21,432 --> 00:22:22,955 until about two hours ago. 536 00:22:22,998 --> 00:22:24,391 [quietly]:What a complete load of... 537 00:22:24,435 --> 00:22:25,958 That's my name. Don't wear it out. 538 00:22:26,001 --> 00:22:27,568 Shh.I'm going to take you at your word 539 00:22:27,612 --> 00:22:29,744 this time, Mr. Colón. 540 00:22:29,788 --> 00:22:31,355 But let's not make 541 00:22:31,398 --> 00:22:32,573 a habit of this. 542 00:22:32,617 --> 00:22:33,835 Mr. Palmer, 543 00:22:33,879 --> 00:22:35,054 let's swear the witness in, 544 00:22:35,097 --> 00:22:36,403 see what he has to say. 545 00:22:36,447 --> 00:22:39,406 Then, if you feel you need extra time 546 00:22:39,450 --> 00:22:41,452 to prepare after direct examination, 547 00:22:41,495 --> 00:22:42,714 I promise, 548 00:22:42,757 --> 00:22:44,803 I will make an accommodation for that. 549 00:22:44,846 --> 00:22:47,414 Thank you, Your Honor. 550 00:22:47,458 --> 00:22:48,763 BENNY: Now, Mr. Craven, 551 00:22:48,807 --> 00:22:50,896 you were one of the squatters at the warehouse 552 00:22:50,939 --> 00:22:54,421 where Claire Waters and Finn Danford lost their lives? 553 00:22:54,465 --> 00:22:56,075 Yes, sir. 554 00:22:56,118 --> 00:22:57,729 I lived there for about three weeks. 555 00:22:57,772 --> 00:22:59,687 Uh, but just so everybody's straight, 556 00:22:59,731 --> 00:23:02,081 I was there before the folks that died. 557 00:23:02,124 --> 00:23:04,039 So I never metClaire or Finn.Okay. 558 00:23:04,083 --> 00:23:07,129 Duly noted. But you livedthere nonetheless. 559 00:23:07,173 --> 00:23:08,870 Now, how did you hearabout the place? 560 00:23:08,914 --> 00:23:10,481 Uh, Lily. 561 00:23:10,524 --> 00:23:11,482 She told me about it. 562 00:23:11,525 --> 00:23:12,439 BENNY:And how did you know Lily? 563 00:23:12,483 --> 00:23:13,440 Gallery shows. 564 00:23:13,484 --> 00:23:15,311 Openings. 565 00:23:15,355 --> 00:23:16,878 I'd bump into her all the time. 566 00:23:16,922 --> 00:23:19,620 Turns out we both liked events that featured art, 567 00:23:19,664 --> 00:23:21,492 free wine and things you could eat. 568 00:23:21,535 --> 00:23:23,363 BENNY:Now, after you moved in,did you... 569 00:23:23,407 --> 00:23:26,192 see anythingthat gave you cause for concern? 570 00:23:26,235 --> 00:23:28,455 A lot, actually. 571 00:23:28,499 --> 00:23:30,588 I mean, there were extension cords 572 00:23:30,631 --> 00:23:32,067 running between buildings, 573 00:23:32,111 --> 00:23:34,069 hanging out in the weather. 574 00:23:34,113 --> 00:23:35,984 There was a rodent problem. 575 00:23:36,028 --> 00:23:38,378 No bathroom, per se. 576 00:23:38,422 --> 00:23:40,554 It was pretty rugged.Anything else? 577 00:23:40,598 --> 00:23:43,165 Well, I mean, you couldn't missthe water stains on the ceiling. 578 00:23:43,209 --> 00:23:46,734 Uh, there was actually a spacewhere the ceiling was, 579 00:23:46,778 --> 00:23:47,735 uh, bowing. 580 00:23:47,779 --> 00:23:49,345 Like-like, dripping down. 581 00:23:49,389 --> 00:23:51,391 And, uh, it looked like water or something else 582 00:23:51,435 --> 00:23:53,262 had been collecting there for a long time. 583 00:23:53,306 --> 00:23:55,787 And did you...share your concerns with anyone? 584 00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:58,050 I-I told Lily. 585 00:23:58,093 --> 00:23:59,704 Well, her bedwas right underneath 586 00:23:59,747 --> 00:24:01,401 where the bulge wasthe biggest. 587 00:24:01,445 --> 00:24:03,359 So I just... didn't think it was safe. 588 00:24:03,403 --> 00:24:04,360 Or smart. 589 00:24:04,404 --> 00:24:05,405 So let me get this straight. 590 00:24:05,449 --> 00:24:07,407 You told the defendant 591 00:24:07,451 --> 00:24:09,409 you thought the ceiling might be a hazard? 592 00:24:09,453 --> 00:24:10,802 I did. 593 00:24:10,845 --> 00:24:12,804 [quietly]: No wonder they hid this guy from us. 594 00:24:12,847 --> 00:24:14,849 BENNY:And what didthe defendant do about it? 595 00:24:14,893 --> 00:24:17,417 Nothing, as far as I could tell. 596 00:24:17,461 --> 00:24:18,984 Uh, that's why,when I got enough money 597 00:24:19,027 --> 00:24:20,551 to get out of there,I-I did. 598 00:24:20,594 --> 00:24:22,248 Thank you, Mr. Craven. 599 00:24:22,291 --> 00:24:24,076 No further questions, Your Honor. 600 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,251 LILY: I don't know 601 00:24:25,294 --> 00:24:26,948 what he expected me to do. 602 00:24:26,992 --> 00:24:28,428 I didn't own the place. 603 00:24:28,472 --> 00:24:29,995 I didn't have any money. 604 00:24:30,038 --> 00:24:32,432 And, besides, for all I knew, 605 00:24:32,476 --> 00:24:34,521 it could have been like that for a hundred years. 606 00:24:34,565 --> 00:24:35,609 Mr. Palmer? 607 00:24:35,653 --> 00:24:37,698 Are you prepared to cross-examine? 608 00:24:37,742 --> 00:24:39,700 [quietly]:Should we ask for more time? 609 00:24:39,744 --> 00:24:41,223 No. 610 00:24:41,267 --> 00:24:43,225 Just ask him if he warned anyone else. 611 00:24:43,269 --> 00:24:45,227 Be sure to use the word "warned." 612 00:24:45,271 --> 00:24:48,622 Let's paint him with the same brush he's using on Lily. 613 00:24:51,495 --> 00:24:52,844 CHUNK: Mr. Craven, 614 00:24:52,887 --> 00:24:55,499 you said that you saw-- wh-what did you call it?-- 615 00:24:55,542 --> 00:24:57,544 the-the bowing in the ceiling 616 00:24:57,588 --> 00:24:59,198 and you warned 617 00:24:59,241 --> 00:25:00,199 Ms. Knowles. 618 00:25:00,242 --> 00:25:01,548 Yeah. That's correct. 619 00:25:01,592 --> 00:25:04,420 Who else did you warn about it? 620 00:25:04,464 --> 00:25:06,205 Excuse me? 621 00:25:06,248 --> 00:25:07,554 Who else did you warn 622 00:25:07,598 --> 00:25:09,513 about your concerns regarding the ceiling? 623 00:25:10,775 --> 00:25:12,603 No one? 624 00:25:13,691 --> 00:25:16,563 I need you to speak your answerfor the record, sir. 625 00:25:16,607 --> 00:25:18,783 No. I just told Lily. 626 00:25:18,826 --> 00:25:20,045 I figuredthat would be enough. 627 00:25:20,088 --> 00:25:23,135 And why would you think that? 628 00:25:23,178 --> 00:25:25,224 If you thoughtthere was imminent danger there, 629 00:25:25,267 --> 00:25:27,618 why wouldn't you warn everyone you could? 630 00:25:28,662 --> 00:25:30,446 Your other roommates.Give them 631 00:25:30,490 --> 00:25:32,187 the same opportunity you took 632 00:25:32,231 --> 00:25:33,493 to get out of there and find another place 633 00:25:33,537 --> 00:25:34,494 to live. 634 00:25:34,538 --> 00:25:35,103 I don't know. I... 635 00:25:35,147 --> 00:25:36,540 I told Lily. 636 00:25:36,583 --> 00:25:38,150 I-I mean,she was in charge. 637 00:25:38,193 --> 00:25:39,804 CHUNK:Was she? 638 00:25:39,847 --> 00:25:42,458 I thought this was supposed to be an artists' cooperative, 639 00:25:42,502 --> 00:25:44,504 a egalitarian commune, 640 00:25:44,548 --> 00:25:46,811 where everyone was all in it together. 641 00:25:46,854 --> 00:25:48,029 Nice. 642 00:25:48,073 --> 00:25:49,378 Now quit while you're ahead. 643 00:25:49,422 --> 00:25:51,032 Objection. Your Honor, 644 00:25:51,076 --> 00:25:53,469 maybe I missed it, but was therea question in there somewhere? 645 00:25:53,513 --> 00:25:55,646 Ask a question, Mr. Palmer. 646 00:25:55,689 --> 00:25:56,821 Tell her you have no more questions, 647 00:25:56,864 --> 00:25:58,039 thank the witness and sit down. 648 00:25:58,083 --> 00:25:59,214 Absolutely, Your Honor. 649 00:25:59,258 --> 00:26:01,260 The truth is, 650 00:26:01,303 --> 00:26:03,915 you thought that there was a problem with the roof, 651 00:26:03,958 --> 00:26:05,220 but you didn't do anything else 652 00:26:05,264 --> 00:26:06,787 about it, did you? 653 00:26:06,831 --> 00:26:07,875 Well... 654 00:26:07,919 --> 00:26:09,703 Except leave. Seems to me 655 00:26:09,747 --> 00:26:11,357 you're at leastas culpable 656 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,533 as my client. Maybe even more so. 657 00:26:13,577 --> 00:26:15,840 Objection! Your Honor! 658 00:26:15,883 --> 00:26:18,103 No foundation. Badgering. 659 00:26:18,146 --> 00:26:21,106 Again, I have to ask this question for the second time, 660 00:26:21,149 --> 00:26:23,151 what is the question?! 661 00:26:23,195 --> 00:26:24,892 Counsel is testifying! 662 00:26:24,936 --> 00:26:26,502 Sustained.All sustained. 663 00:26:26,546 --> 00:26:27,721 Mr. Palmer, 664 00:26:27,765 --> 00:26:30,158 I will ask you one more time. 665 00:26:30,202 --> 00:26:33,205 Stop making speeches, start asking questions. 666 00:26:33,248 --> 00:26:37,513 Or I will dismiss the witness and hold you in contempt. 667 00:26:37,557 --> 00:26:40,516 I do apologize, Your Honor. 668 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,129 As it happens, I have no furtherquestions for this witness. 669 00:26:44,172 --> 00:26:45,130 [exhales] 670 00:26:45,173 --> 00:26:47,611 Let's take a 15-minute break. 671 00:26:48,699 --> 00:26:49,917 I don't believe for a second 672 00:26:49,961 --> 00:26:52,398 that he found that witness this morning. 673 00:26:52,441 --> 00:26:54,269 Can you prove it? 674 00:26:55,357 --> 00:26:57,229 Then it doesn't matter. 675 00:26:57,272 --> 00:26:58,491 Didn't anyone tell you? 676 00:26:58,534 --> 00:27:02,103 The law isa contact sport, too. 677 00:27:02,147 --> 00:27:04,758 You got tackled.He took you down. 678 00:27:04,802 --> 00:27:06,281 Now get up. 679 00:27:06,325 --> 00:27:08,632 It's your ball. 680 00:27:15,334 --> 00:27:16,291 Your Honor, 681 00:27:16,335 --> 00:27:17,597 with the court's permission, 682 00:27:17,641 --> 00:27:20,731 the defense would like to call Denise Danford. 683 00:27:20,774 --> 00:27:22,950 Scuse me. 684 00:27:22,994 --> 00:27:25,213 Objection, Your Honor. 685 00:27:25,257 --> 00:27:28,434 We have no information regarding this witness. 686 00:27:28,477 --> 00:27:31,263 Her name is nowhere on the witness list. 687 00:27:31,306 --> 00:27:34,222 Clearly, defense counsel is playing fast and loose 688 00:27:34,266 --> 00:27:36,268 with the rules of discovery. 689 00:27:37,791 --> 00:27:39,358 Is this true? 690 00:27:39,401 --> 00:27:42,666 Did you not share this witness'sname with opposing counsel? 691 00:27:42,709 --> 00:27:44,363 Unfortunately, Your Honor, 692 00:27:44,406 --> 00:27:47,714 Mrs. Danford has beenvery, verydifficult to locate. 693 00:27:47,758 --> 00:27:50,325 But the good news is, after looking and looking, 694 00:27:50,369 --> 00:27:53,154 we were able to make contact with her this morning, 695 00:27:53,198 --> 00:27:54,590 shortly before trial. 696 00:27:54,634 --> 00:27:58,333 Or I promise we would have giventhe opposing counsel 697 00:27:58,377 --> 00:28:00,074 plenty of notice. 698 00:28:00,118 --> 00:28:01,859 I do hope that my esteemed colleague 699 00:28:01,902 --> 00:28:05,210 can find it in his heart to forgive me. 700 00:28:05,253 --> 00:28:07,734 I'm sure he can. 701 00:28:07,778 --> 00:28:09,649 Let's swear in the witness. 702 00:28:09,693 --> 00:28:11,216 And as was the case 703 00:28:11,259 --> 00:28:13,871 when the shoe was on the other foot, Mr. Colón, 704 00:28:13,914 --> 00:28:16,569 if you need extra time to prepare 705 00:28:16,612 --> 00:28:18,571 after direct examination, 706 00:28:18,614 --> 00:28:20,399 we will make an accommodation. 707 00:28:20,442 --> 00:28:22,662 Thank you, Your Honor. 708 00:28:24,664 --> 00:28:26,013 DENISE: Finn and I 709 00:28:26,057 --> 00:28:28,102 tried to talk every Sunday. 710 00:28:28,146 --> 00:28:29,756 FaceTime. 711 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,453 For a while, it seemed like, 712 00:28:31,497 --> 00:28:34,500 every other call, he would mention this girl. 713 00:28:34,543 --> 00:28:36,371 Claire. 714 00:28:37,459 --> 00:28:39,723 And it was obviousfrom the way he talked about her 715 00:28:39,766 --> 00:28:42,638 that...she was special. 716 00:28:42,682 --> 00:28:45,772 Then... 717 00:28:45,816 --> 00:28:48,819 at the end of his first semesterjunior year, 718 00:28:48,862 --> 00:28:50,342 we were gonna have a conversation 719 00:28:50,385 --> 00:28:53,562 about perhaps applying for another student loan. 720 00:28:53,606 --> 00:28:56,304 And he told me not to worry about it. 721 00:28:56,348 --> 00:28:58,437 That he was leaving school. 722 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,918 That he wanted to try living in New York. 723 00:29:00,961 --> 00:29:03,268 And how did you feel about that? 724 00:29:03,311 --> 00:29:05,096 It scared me. 725 00:29:06,097 --> 00:29:08,229 New York scared me. 726 00:29:11,189 --> 00:29:13,365 [shudders] The first time I came to New York 727 00:29:13,408 --> 00:29:15,933 was to identify Finn's body. 728 00:29:18,152 --> 00:29:20,328 This is my second time. 729 00:29:22,374 --> 00:29:24,768 And I... [shudders] 730 00:29:24,811 --> 00:29:26,770 I wasn't sure how he was gonna do it, 731 00:29:26,813 --> 00:29:29,337 how he was going to pay for it. 732 00:29:30,861 --> 00:29:33,385 But he kept telling me not to worry about it. [chuckles] 733 00:29:33,428 --> 00:29:35,561 So I... 734 00:29:35,604 --> 00:29:37,955 I tried my best not to. 735 00:29:39,608 --> 00:29:42,133 And I sensed that he was in love. 736 00:29:42,176 --> 00:29:44,309 So... 737 00:29:44,352 --> 00:29:47,442 I knew he wasn't here alone. 738 00:29:48,443 --> 00:29:49,880 Mrs. Danford, 739 00:29:49,923 --> 00:29:52,099 your son died. 740 00:29:52,143 --> 00:29:54,449 But you're not a party to this litigation. 741 00:29:54,493 --> 00:29:57,235 Can you please tell the jury why? 742 00:29:58,889 --> 00:30:01,674 Because I don't think it's that girl's fault. 743 00:30:02,849 --> 00:30:04,285 I'm sorry. I mean, I... 744 00:30:04,329 --> 00:30:06,070 I knowwe've never met, 745 00:30:06,113 --> 00:30:09,421 and I knowwe both lost our children. 746 00:30:09,464 --> 00:30:11,510 But in my heart of hearts, I-I... 747 00:30:11,553 --> 00:30:14,687 I just don't think that girl had anything to do with it. 748 00:30:14,730 --> 00:30:16,036 Objection, Your Honor. 749 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,170 The witness is offering speculation as testimony 750 00:30:19,213 --> 00:30:21,476 and is addressing the plaintiff directly. 751 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,522 Please, Mrs. Danford, 752 00:30:23,565 --> 00:30:25,350 just answerthe lawyer's questions 753 00:30:25,393 --> 00:30:27,787 with the factsas you understand them. 754 00:30:27,831 --> 00:30:31,225 And don't address the plaintiff directly. 755 00:30:31,269 --> 00:30:33,401 I apologize. 756 00:30:33,445 --> 00:30:35,490 CHUNK: So, Mrs. Danford, 757 00:30:35,534 --> 00:30:38,798 who do you think is responsiblefor your son's death? 758 00:30:38,842 --> 00:30:41,540 I'm not sure anyone's responsible. 759 00:30:41,583 --> 00:30:43,803 It seems like it was an accident. 760 00:30:45,109 --> 00:30:46,240 I mean, 761 00:30:46,284 --> 00:30:47,894 if you're gonna holdanyone responsible, 762 00:30:47,938 --> 00:30:48,895 maybe... 763 00:30:48,939 --> 00:30:50,941 it's the building inspectors. 764 00:30:51,985 --> 00:30:54,161 But then they said the building was dangerous. 765 00:30:54,205 --> 00:30:56,990 They ordered it locked. It was locked. 766 00:30:57,991 --> 00:31:00,559 So maybe it's the politicians. 767 00:31:00,602 --> 00:31:02,387 What do you mean by "the politicians"? 768 00:31:02,430 --> 00:31:04,563 The government. 769 00:31:04,606 --> 00:31:05,956 The people who are supposed to make sure 770 00:31:05,999 --> 00:31:07,783 this city is a place where everyone can live, 771 00:31:07,827 --> 00:31:09,611 not just rich people. 772 00:31:09,655 --> 00:31:12,527 Your Honor, I have withheld my initial objections 773 00:31:12,571 --> 00:31:14,007 out of respect for Mrs. Danford. 774 00:31:14,051 --> 00:31:16,227 But, clearly, the defense is determined 775 00:31:16,270 --> 00:31:18,577 to go down this road. So I have to ask 776 00:31:18,620 --> 00:31:20,971 how any of this is relevant to the issue at hand. 777 00:31:21,014 --> 00:31:22,494 Objection sustained. 778 00:31:22,537 --> 00:31:23,974 Uh, Mr. Palmer, 779 00:31:24,017 --> 00:31:25,192 anything else? 780 00:31:25,236 --> 00:31:28,543 So, one last time, Mrs. Danford, 781 00:31:28,587 --> 00:31:31,024 do you think that my client is responsible 782 00:31:31,068 --> 00:31:33,635 for your son's death? 783 00:31:33,679 --> 00:31:35,463 No. 784 00:31:36,464 --> 00:31:39,337 In fact, I look at her 785 00:31:39,380 --> 00:31:41,382 and I see my son. 786 00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:44,820 She was in the same boat as the rest of them, 787 00:31:44,864 --> 00:31:47,867 just doing the best she could. 788 00:31:47,911 --> 00:31:50,870 Maybe making some unwise choices, but... 789 00:31:50,914 --> 00:31:54,265 she meant no ill will towards anyone. 790 00:31:54,308 --> 00:31:57,616 She was just trying to put a roof over people's heads. 791 00:31:57,659 --> 00:32:00,010 Thank you, Mrs. Danford. 792 00:32:00,053 --> 00:32:01,881 No further questions. 793 00:32:09,454 --> 00:32:11,935 [quietly]:I feel them slipping away. 794 00:32:11,978 --> 00:32:14,415 [exhales] 795 00:32:14,459 --> 00:32:16,504 Is Danny en route? 796 00:32:16,548 --> 00:32:19,290 20 minutes away. 797 00:32:19,333 --> 00:32:20,856 CHUNK: So, 798 00:32:20,900 --> 00:32:23,381 when Reggie Craven pointed out the bowing in the ceiling, 799 00:32:23,424 --> 00:32:25,470 how did you react? 800 00:32:25,513 --> 00:32:27,080 Honestly? 801 00:32:27,124 --> 00:32:29,430 I thought... 802 00:32:29,474 --> 00:32:31,128 "Okay." 803 00:32:31,171 --> 00:32:34,174 And, "What would you like me to do about it?" 804 00:32:35,393 --> 00:32:38,352 I didn't think that it was dangerous, 805 00:32:38,396 --> 00:32:41,790 just kind of... ugly. 806 00:32:41,834 --> 00:32:45,055 And truthfully, the whole place was ugly. 807 00:32:45,098 --> 00:32:47,231 There were water stains everywhere. 808 00:32:47,274 --> 00:32:49,233 The floor was uneven. 809 00:32:49,276 --> 00:32:51,975 And you could feel the wind whip through every night. 810 00:32:52,018 --> 00:32:55,282 I was much more worried that... 811 00:32:55,326 --> 00:32:56,980 the neighbors would realize that we were stealing 812 00:32:57,023 --> 00:32:58,198 their electricity, 813 00:32:58,242 --> 00:33:00,374 and the space heaters would turn off. 814 00:33:00,418 --> 00:33:02,507 I was much more worried 815 00:33:02,550 --> 00:33:05,205 that the coffee shop and the hotel down the street 816 00:33:05,249 --> 00:33:07,033 were getting smart to us 817 00:33:07,077 --> 00:33:09,601 and would stop letting us use their bathrooms. 818 00:33:09,644 --> 00:33:11,690 But, I mean... 819 00:33:11,733 --> 00:33:14,301 it was free, 820 00:33:14,345 --> 00:33:17,174 and we had space to paint 821 00:33:17,217 --> 00:33:19,828 and sculpt... 822 00:33:19,872 --> 00:33:21,613 and sleep. 823 00:33:21,656 --> 00:33:23,615 Thank you, Miss Knowles. 824 00:33:23,658 --> 00:33:25,399 No further questions. 825 00:33:29,838 --> 00:33:31,797 Good afternoon, Miss Knowles. 826 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,407 Good afternoon. 827 00:33:33,451 --> 00:33:35,061 You know, it never crossed your mind after Reggie Craven 828 00:33:35,105 --> 00:33:38,934 pointed out what was going on above your head that maybe... 829 00:33:38,978 --> 00:33:41,415 you know, you should get the hell out of there? 830 00:33:42,460 --> 00:33:44,636 I guess I'm stupid. 831 00:33:44,679 --> 00:33:48,509 No. It never occurred to me. 832 00:33:48,553 --> 00:33:51,643 Maybe because I knew that none of us had anywhere else to go. 833 00:33:51,686 --> 00:33:52,948 Mm-hmm. 834 00:33:52,992 --> 00:33:54,559 Your Honor, with the court's permission, 835 00:33:54,602 --> 00:33:56,909 the plaintiffs would like to enter into evidence 836 00:33:56,952 --> 00:33:58,737 a series of text messages: 837 00:33:58,780 --> 00:34:02,045 part of a group text between Miss Knowles 838 00:34:02,088 --> 00:34:02,784 and the two victims. 839 00:34:02,828 --> 00:34:04,569 Your Honor, again? 840 00:34:04,612 --> 00:34:06,397 This is trial by ambush! 841 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,268 Now, why is thisnot a violation 842 00:34:08,312 --> 00:34:10,270 of the rules of discovery, Mr. Colón? 843 00:34:10,314 --> 00:34:14,361 [sighs] Truthfully, this is all my mistake, Your Honor. 844 00:34:14,405 --> 00:34:16,842 It did not dawn on me to ask to see 845 00:34:16,885 --> 00:34:20,280 the late Miss Waters's cell phone until yesterday. 846 00:34:20,324 --> 00:34:22,108 And it's takenfrom then until now 847 00:34:22,152 --> 00:34:23,457 for my investigator 848 00:34:23,501 --> 00:34:25,285 to unlock her phone and uncover the messages 849 00:34:25,329 --> 00:34:27,287 I'm about to share with you. 850 00:34:27,331 --> 00:34:29,420 I apologize, and I'm happy to go about it 851 00:34:29,463 --> 00:34:31,465 in any way thatpleases the court. 852 00:34:31,509 --> 00:34:33,511 ButI do think the jury's gonna want to hear 853 00:34:33,554 --> 00:34:35,643 the evidence I'm about to offer. 854 00:34:35,687 --> 00:34:36,818 [quietly]: He's good, isn't he? 855 00:34:36,862 --> 00:34:38,037 CHUNK:And are we supposed 856 00:34:38,081 --> 00:34:39,604 to just take Mr. Colón's word for it 857 00:34:39,647 --> 00:34:41,258 that these texts are genuine? 858 00:34:41,301 --> 00:34:43,912 As I mentioned a moment ago,this is a three-way conversation 859 00:34:43,956 --> 00:34:46,480 between Claire, her boyfriend Finn, 860 00:34:46,524 --> 00:34:47,742 and Miss Knowles. 861 00:34:47,786 --> 00:34:50,136 All counsel has to dois reach out 862 00:34:50,180 --> 00:34:52,312 to his client and ask to see her cell phone. 863 00:34:52,356 --> 00:34:55,402 Although I fully intendon asking her in a minuteif she remembers 864 00:34:55,446 --> 00:34:58,275 sending and receiving those messages. 865 00:34:58,318 --> 00:35:01,147 HUDSON: Since I don't know where you're going, Counsel, 866 00:35:01,191 --> 00:35:05,108 and since Miss Knowles isscheduled as our final witness, 867 00:35:05,151 --> 00:35:08,372 I feel I have no real choice but to let you proceed. 868 00:35:08,415 --> 00:35:10,200 But, Mr. Colón, 869 00:35:10,243 --> 00:35:11,853 be forewarned, 870 00:35:11,897 --> 00:35:15,727 if you stray outside the lines of legal propriety, 871 00:35:15,770 --> 00:35:19,905 I will cite you so fast it will make your head spin. 872 00:35:19,948 --> 00:35:22,168 Understood, Your Honor. Thank you. 873 00:35:22,212 --> 00:35:23,691 Now, Miss Knowles... 874 00:35:23,735 --> 00:35:29,219 [sighs] this here isa text message you sent 875 00:35:29,262 --> 00:35:31,264 to Claire Waters and Finn Danford 876 00:35:31,308 --> 00:35:33,092 before they moved into the warehouse. 877 00:35:33,136 --> 00:35:34,398 Now, would you please read it 878 00:35:34,441 --> 00:35:36,922 to the court? 879 00:35:36,965 --> 00:35:38,663 "Hey, Claire and Finn. 880 00:35:38,706 --> 00:35:43,407 "I've decided I'm moving my bedto a different part of the loft. 881 00:35:43,450 --> 00:35:46,061 "I want you to sleep where I've been. 882 00:35:47,367 --> 00:35:49,152 "It's far away from everyone else, 883 00:35:49,195 --> 00:35:52,285 and it will give the two of yousome privacy." 884 00:35:52,329 --> 00:35:54,157 You remember sending that? 885 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,810 Yeah. I do. 886 00:35:55,854 --> 00:35:58,204 Let me try to understand this. 887 00:35:58,248 --> 00:36:02,469 You'd been sleeping underneath the bulge in the ceiling, 888 00:36:02,513 --> 00:36:05,080 but after Reggie Craven warned you about it, 889 00:36:05,124 --> 00:36:07,953 you moved your bedand offered that spot 890 00:36:07,996 --> 00:36:09,911 to my client's daughter and her boyfriend. 891 00:36:09,955 --> 00:36:11,348 That's true, but... 892 00:36:11,391 --> 00:36:12,784 But what? 893 00:36:12,827 --> 00:36:15,003 You discovered your life was in danger, 894 00:36:15,047 --> 00:36:16,440 and you protected yourself 895 00:36:16,483 --> 00:36:18,224 at the expense of two other people. 896 00:36:18,268 --> 00:36:21,445 Objection. Counsel is badgering the witness. 897 00:36:21,488 --> 00:36:22,794 Overruled. 898 00:36:22,837 --> 00:36:25,013 The witness shall answer.That is what happened, 899 00:36:25,057 --> 00:36:26,363 isn't it? 900 00:36:27,407 --> 00:36:28,974 [crying]: I made the move 901 00:36:29,017 --> 00:36:30,454 because they were a couple. 902 00:36:30,497 --> 00:36:32,717 And it was the sleeping space that was the furthest 903 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,284 from everybody else. 904 00:36:34,327 --> 00:36:36,634 It was as simple as that. 905 00:36:36,677 --> 00:36:39,463 I didn't know that there was gonna be 906 00:36:39,506 --> 00:36:40,725 a torrential rainstorm. 907 00:36:40,768 --> 00:36:43,249 I didn't know that the roofwas gonna cave in. 908 00:36:43,293 --> 00:36:46,121 I was just trying to be nice. 909 00:36:48,428 --> 00:36:50,648 Maybe you did and maybe you didn't. 910 00:36:50,691 --> 00:36:53,781 But that is for the jury to decide. 911 00:36:53,825 --> 00:36:56,088 Nothing further, Your Honor. 912 00:37:02,616 --> 00:37:04,879 Benny owned that courtroom. 913 00:37:04,923 --> 00:37:06,881 He's been at ita long time. 914 00:37:06,925 --> 00:37:08,970 All the theatrics, the timing, 915 00:37:09,014 --> 00:37:10,972 the "we just found this witness," 916 00:37:11,016 --> 00:37:13,279 "we just found this evidence." 917 00:37:13,323 --> 00:37:15,542 He made that what the trial was about. 918 00:37:15,586 --> 00:37:17,022 Mm. 919 00:37:17,065 --> 00:37:19,067 The job is to win. 920 00:37:19,111 --> 00:37:21,069 Yeah, well... 921 00:37:21,113 --> 00:37:23,507 It just doesn't seem right. 922 00:37:23,550 --> 00:37:25,378 How do you mean? 923 00:37:25,422 --> 00:37:28,512 If Evelyn loses, if his client loses, 924 00:37:28,555 --> 00:37:30,731 practically nothing changes in her life. 925 00:37:30,775 --> 00:37:33,517 She gets to go home to the same 800-thread-count sheet 926 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,563 she's been sleeping in for the past two decades. 927 00:37:36,607 --> 00:37:39,827 But if Lily loses, if ourclient loses, 928 00:37:39,871 --> 00:37:42,308 everything changes. 929 00:37:42,352 --> 00:37:44,528 She's staring at a mountain of debt, 930 00:37:44,571 --> 00:37:46,530 possibly a decade in prison, 931 00:37:46,573 --> 00:37:49,663 and I will have profoundly failed her. 932 00:37:52,710 --> 00:37:55,713 Welcome to a lifein the law, Counselor. 933 00:38:01,762 --> 00:38:03,329 [knocking] 934 00:38:03,373 --> 00:38:04,330 BULL: Yes? 935 00:38:04,374 --> 00:38:05,897 Any word? 936 00:38:06,941 --> 00:38:08,639 Ask the lawyer. 937 00:38:08,682 --> 00:38:11,119 Nope. Not a peep. 938 00:38:12,164 --> 00:38:13,731 Three days. 939 00:38:13,774 --> 00:38:17,300 What the heck could the jurybe talking about for three days? 940 00:38:17,343 --> 00:38:18,736 I'm concerned they're debating 941 00:38:18,779 --> 00:38:21,347 how much pain to inflict on Lily. 942 00:38:21,391 --> 00:38:22,957 As in how many dollars? 943 00:38:23,001 --> 00:38:25,003 As in how many millions. 944 00:38:25,046 --> 00:38:27,440 Hard to deny a mother who's lost her only child. 945 00:38:27,484 --> 00:38:30,835 Wow. You're a big up. Positively inspirational. 946 00:38:30,878 --> 00:38:32,489 You know what they say. 947 00:38:32,532 --> 00:38:35,143 "Expect the worst and you'll never be disappointed." 948 00:38:35,187 --> 00:38:38,103 You allow this kind of behaviorin your office? 949 00:38:38,146 --> 00:38:40,845 I've been trying to talk sense into him all morning. 950 00:38:40,888 --> 00:38:42,890 Look, we picked a good jury. 951 00:38:42,934 --> 00:38:45,371 Foreperson looked like she was siding with us. 952 00:38:45,415 --> 00:38:48,026 Judge instructed them to stick to the facts and the evidence. 953 00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:50,985 Call me crazy, but I prefer to keep a good thought. 954 00:38:52,422 --> 00:38:54,946 It's easy to find someone not guilty. 955 00:38:54,989 --> 00:38:56,991 It's hard to find someone culpable, 956 00:38:57,035 --> 00:38:59,342 particularly when there are deaths involved. 957 00:38:59,385 --> 00:39:01,300 You know, many people take no pleasure 958 00:39:01,344 --> 00:39:02,997 in ruining someone else's life. 959 00:39:03,041 --> 00:39:04,172 That's why it takes juries 960 00:39:04,216 --> 00:39:07,045 a while to do it. 961 00:39:07,088 --> 00:39:09,177 So you're pretty convincedthey're gonna find Lily liable? 962 00:39:09,221 --> 00:39:11,528 I can't imagine what else they'd be talking about 963 00:39:11,571 --> 00:39:12,877 this whole time. 964 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,052 Wonder what Bull thinks. 965 00:39:14,095 --> 00:39:15,836 Why don't you ask him? 966 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,229 Jury's behind closed doors. 967 00:39:17,272 --> 00:39:19,666 Both sides of the case have rested. 968 00:39:19,710 --> 00:39:21,799 We're allowed to talk to each other now. 969 00:39:21,842 --> 00:39:24,454 Well, I know. I just... I think we both just felt like 970 00:39:24,497 --> 00:39:26,107 the time to compare notes is 971 00:39:26,151 --> 00:39:29,197 after it's all over, after there's a verdict. 972 00:39:29,241 --> 00:39:31,112 You spoken to Bull? 973 00:39:31,156 --> 00:39:32,505 Not yet. 974 00:39:32,549 --> 00:39:35,029 I may walk upstairs in a little while. 975 00:39:35,073 --> 00:39:36,640 [phone vibrates] 976 00:39:36,683 --> 00:39:38,424 Ooh. Best laid plans... 977 00:39:41,906 --> 00:39:43,124 Jury's back. 978 00:39:43,168 --> 00:39:44,691 [gavel bangs] 979 00:39:44,735 --> 00:39:46,606 HUDSON: Madam Foreperson, 980 00:39:46,650 --> 00:39:48,608 has the jury reached a verdict? 981 00:39:48,652 --> 00:39:50,044 We have. 982 00:39:50,088 --> 00:39:51,350 How do you find? 983 00:39:51,394 --> 00:39:53,744 Your Honor, we wantedto avoid a deadlock, 984 00:39:53,787 --> 00:39:55,441 so we reacheda compromise agreement. 985 00:39:55,485 --> 00:39:59,140 We feel for both sidesin this case, and... 986 00:39:59,184 --> 00:40:00,446 so both sides won a little, 987 00:40:00,490 --> 00:40:02,448 and both sides losta little, and... 988 00:40:02,492 --> 00:40:04,755 Just render your verdict, please. 989 00:40:04,798 --> 00:40:08,193 We find the defendant,Lily Knowles, 990 00:40:08,236 --> 00:40:11,152 liable for the deathof Claire Waters. 991 00:40:15,940 --> 00:40:17,985 And we assess the followingfinancial damages, 992 00:40:18,029 --> 00:40:20,292 payable to Evelyn Waters, 993 00:40:20,335 --> 00:40:23,077 in the amountof one dollar. 994 00:40:23,121 --> 00:40:25,210 ♪ 995 00:40:30,128 --> 00:40:31,521 [whispers]:This is good. 996 00:40:38,266 --> 00:40:41,313 HUDSON: Ladies and gentlemen, the jury has spoken. 997 00:40:41,356 --> 00:40:43,184 [whispers]: Loud and clear. 998 00:40:44,229 --> 00:40:46,057 And we are adjourned. 999 00:40:47,188 --> 00:40:49,190 [exhales] 1000 00:40:57,547 --> 00:40:59,549 A.D.A. Kiehl. 1001 00:40:59,592 --> 00:41:01,333 You found me.I've been 1002 00:41:01,376 --> 00:41:02,639 in court all day. 1003 00:41:02,682 --> 00:41:05,076 My boss just gave me a message from my sister 1004 00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:06,599 that you were looking for me. 1005 00:41:06,643 --> 00:41:09,123 [claps hands]I called your office, and they said 1006 00:41:09,167 --> 00:41:11,256 you were here. I literally 1007 00:41:11,299 --> 00:41:13,563 just got the verdict and ran right over here. 1008 00:41:13,606 --> 00:41:15,913 Is thisthe roof-collapsing thing? 1009 00:41:15,956 --> 00:41:17,218 The one where your firm is representing 1010 00:41:17,262 --> 00:41:18,306 both sides of the case? 1011 00:41:18,350 --> 00:41:20,004 Oh, yeah, that's the one. 1012 00:41:20,047 --> 00:41:21,571 Your side win? 1013 00:41:21,614 --> 00:41:22,920 We did. 1014 00:41:22,963 --> 00:41:25,313 Jury found for the plaintiff. 1015 00:41:25,357 --> 00:41:26,445 Congratulations. 1016 00:41:26,489 --> 00:41:27,490 Oh, yeah. 1017 00:41:27,533 --> 00:41:30,275 Awarded her a whole dollar. 1018 00:41:30,318 --> 00:41:31,624 You working contingency? 1019 00:41:31,668 --> 00:41:33,191 Mm, mm-mm. 1020 00:41:33,234 --> 00:41:34,497 No, God, no. 1021 00:41:34,540 --> 00:41:36,586 The other side was pro bono, 1022 00:41:36,629 --> 00:41:39,632 so who knows how we'll make outat the end. 1023 00:41:39,676 --> 00:41:41,199 That sounds pretty nutty. 1024 00:41:41,242 --> 00:41:42,592 Yeah. 1025 00:41:42,635 --> 00:41:43,767 No. 1026 00:41:43,810 --> 00:41:45,333 It was kind of fun, actually. 1027 00:41:45,377 --> 00:41:47,597 It was the first time in a whileI've flown solo, 1028 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,426 no Dr. Bull flying the plane, just me, you know? 1029 00:41:51,470 --> 00:41:53,167 I kind of dug it. 1030 00:41:53,211 --> 00:41:54,560 Mm. 1031 00:41:54,604 --> 00:41:57,389 But that can't be why you wanted to see me. 1032 00:41:57,432 --> 00:41:58,912 Mm. 1033 00:41:58,956 --> 00:42:01,915 Right. So, I know we just had an election this year, 1034 00:42:01,959 --> 00:42:03,308 so this is gonna sound 1035 00:42:03,351 --> 00:42:05,484 a little bit strange,but, um, tomorrow morning 1036 00:42:05,528 --> 00:42:07,834 you're gonna read that my boss,our current D.A., 1037 00:42:07,878 --> 00:42:11,142 is up to his ears in a campaign finance scandal. 1038 00:42:11,185 --> 00:42:13,405 It turns out he is 1039 00:42:13,448 --> 00:42:15,059 the definition of dirty. 1040 00:42:15,102 --> 00:42:18,541 And so that means there's gonnabe another election in April. 1041 00:42:19,629 --> 00:42:21,195 Oh, my God, I'm sorry, man. 1042 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,458 Yeah, which, uh,brings me to the other thing. 1043 00:42:23,502 --> 00:42:25,243 Benny... 1044 00:42:25,286 --> 00:42:28,115 would you ever consider runningto be the district attorney 1045 00:42:28,159 --> 00:42:30,204 for the City of New York? 1046 00:42:30,248 --> 00:42:33,425 Captioning sponsored by CBS 1047 00:42:33,468 --> 00:42:36,210 and TOYOTA. 1048 00:42:36,254 --> 00:42:39,431 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org 76412

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