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When I was a kid, my grandma used to say, life presents choices.
And choices lead to consequences.
Once you make that choice, you've got to accept what comes with it.
Whether you like it or not.
Busted. Keep your voice down.
Hey, turn it off. Keep it off.
Okay.
Come on, it's time for bed. Let's go.
What? You smell like beer.
Beer? No, I don't. I don't. Dad.
I don't. Yes, you do.
Hey, I don't. Stop it. Yeah, you do. Stop it.
Don't tell Mom, okay?
How's my room coming?
Uh, good.
Give me a couple more days, okay?
Kendra? Hey.
Night, Daddy.
Night, babe.
No.
Sorry.
You ain't getting any, just so you know.
What? I didn't say anything. I just laid down.
Mm -hmm.
Yo, oops, I dropped my phone, but while you're up, I guess we could... Oh,
please, woman, don't flatter yourself. No?
No. Good night.
You know you want it.
Come on, Chris.
I could do better.
Really? Without a doubt.
In this neighborhood?
What's that supposed to mean? It's a great neighborhood.
Yeah. Right with your fair share of drug dealers, pimps. Wait, wait, wait.
I remind you, we're paying less per month to own this house than we were
were renting over on Dearborn. And that includes the renovation costs. Oh, God.
I love it when you talk renovation and finance with me.
Tell me more.
Tell me about the prime.
What is happening?
If you want to come and get it, what you got to do?
You don't even know the words, you dork. Get out of here. How dare you? I'm over
here for myself.
Well, wait, I guess we could.
But seriously.
We'll be back, you guys.
We promise.
When we get a little more... Energy.
Energy, yes.
When we shall return to our previously scheduled programming. Yes.
That is killing me.
Oh, my God. It's almost one, babe.
What are you doing?
Finish the backspin.
But you've got to call on sick tomorrow. There's no way you're getting up in
three hours.
I can't. Baby, go to sleep. I can't. I can't take any time off. I'm here by the
hour. You know that.
What time's your interview?
Ten. Ten?
That's good.
Seven weeks ago, that feeling was...
Hello? Ma 'am?
Ma 'am, this is 1220 McCulloch Street. You've entered the wrong home.
Ma 'am?
I need to leave, okay?
Do you need help?
Thanks.
She broke in. I'm calling the cops.
Wait, what happened?
I just told you she broke in. I came and she was standing right there. Fuck.
911, what's your emergency?
Mom? We need an ambulance right away to McCullough and Simpson. Somebody just
broke into my house. Please.
Andrew, wait. I don't know, but she's on the ground bleeding to death, ma 'am.
Please hurry. Is she dead? Don't touch her. Okay, how did she get on the
I don't know. I don't know. We just need a fucking ambulance.
Listen to me. There's a woman dying on my kitchen floor.
Mom, is she dead? Riley, I swear to God. What's your address, sir?
Uh, 1220 McCullough Street.
I heard a noise.
From our room, I got up.
I came in here. I turned on the light.
Wait, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no. I heard a noise.
I heard a noise. I came in.
I went... I went to the door. I went to the door. I went to the door.
Okay. I went to the door. Okay.
It's okay, baby.
Whatever it is,
It was self -defense.
Okay?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is that her knife?
Are you having trouble?
You should be touching her. No, no, no, no. Alex, what are you doing?
She's still breathing.
Don't touch her. Don't do anything. Just leave her alone.
What the fuck is the ambulance?
Girls, go to your room. No.
We wait.
We wait.
Kendra, put your sister down and come right back.
Okay.
I did.
I did.
But she hit you first, right, Daddy?
That's right, baby.
Sweetie, go grab me some pajama pants, okay?
Okay. Okay.
We gotta make sure we know exactly what we're saying before we start talking to
the police.
They'll look at us, and they'll look at her, and they'll come to their own
conclusions.
And thus separate us and ask us questions,
including the cross.
Right. Okay.
I can't remember.
Anything?
It's normal.
We only have a few minutes, okay? So let's talk it through, see if anything
comes back.
Okay.
Show me the steps, okay?
All right, I came in.
I heard a noise. I came in.
The door.
The door was open. I went to the door.
You heard a noise.
Look at me.
You heard a noise.
You came in.
The door was open.
There was a woman in the kitchen.
She attacked you.
You tried to defend yourself, but you didn't touch her or do anything.
You just put your hands up to defend yourself.
And then she fell and hit her head.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She fell and she hit her head.
Yeah.
Mommy, I don't want to talk to the police.
It's okay, baby.
Everything's going to be fine, okay?
Okay, I found it.
Look.
You may be deadly force to such person necessary to prevent death or great
bodily harm to yourself or to another individual.
So it's like mom said, you are defending yourself, so it's fine.
All you have to do is tell the truth.
Right?
Right.
But it could get a little complicated.
Is it the police?
It's the first response.
Could be EMT or the fire department. I'm not sure.
I hope it's the ambulance.
Everything will be fine.
Everybody relax, okay?
Just relax.
The truth, guys.
All you have to do is tell the truth.
Fuck. Is this your home, sir?
Yes, sir.
Are any of you armed? Anybody injured?
No. And where's the intruder?
She's right there in the kitchen.
Got it.
Was she carrying a weapon?
Yes.
How's it looking?
Victim is not breathing.
No pulse.
Starting CPR.
Confirming victim is not breathing and has no pulse. Starting CPR.
Need an ambulance right away.
Copy that.
Is there anyone else here?
No, it's just us.
And my daughter's asleep in the back room.
Intruder was alone?
Yes, as far as I know.
Central get the first briefing squad on the air
All clear.
Copy.
Confirming no one else on the premises.
Hey, boys.
The squad on the air?
Yeah, Carlson's on the air.
Detectives, I need you to come over to my location, 1220 McCullough Street.
All right, I'll put in a couple minutes.
Listen, I want everybody to step outside of the house so we know what we've got
here, all right?
Yep.
Cool.
Kitchen. Got it.
I need to get Ashley.
Do not.
Approaching McCullough Street now.
One for one.
How's that?
Just finished a job a couple blocks from here. How are we doing?
I have a DNA.
It's a female.
Conscious on the floor, armed with a knife.
Possible homicide.
Permissive secure.
Family unarmed. That's a question I was waiting for you.
Set a program for you.
All right, let's keep it that way. We'll see what the hospital has to say.
Listen, when you get there, let us know right away if she's likely or not, okay?
Right away.
You got it. And keep an eye out for any bruises start to form. Take pictures.
Yes, ma 'am.
So what do you think?
Looks like you got a half a dozen bank robbers tied up in a corner over here.
Yeah, something doesn't feel right.
Instant when I walked in, I'm real nervous.
One of them probably just killed somebody.
I don't know.
I'll figure it out.
You always do.
Hello.
My name is Detective Francis Carlson, and I'm going to need to speak to each
you individually about what happened here tonight. It shouldn't take very
and I'll appreciate your patience and cooperation in this matter. Okay?
It's okay. You can talk.
We were just hoping you weren't going to have to separate the girls because
they're a little scared.
What's your name?
Riley.
What's your name?
Kendra. Riley and Kendra.
Do you know why we separate people when we ask them questions?
Not really.
It's because it gives us a chance to see if everybody's telling us the truth.
To see if we separate you and all your stories match up without... hearing the
other person's story well then we pretty much know we got the truth and that's
what tonight's all about getting that truth okay so
how would you feel about being put in one of your rooms with one of my
wait for me to come and ask you some questions that be okay with you guys oh
that's what i'm talking about it's much better if you answer for yourself
without checking on someone else for help.
There are no wrong answers here, as long as it's the truth.
Are you okay with my plan?
Are you going to hurt my dad?
Oh, no, it's okay, honey. No one's going to hurt daddy. It's okay. He'll be
fine. It's all right.
Here we go. You come with these guys. They're nice guys.
I'll be right back.
Padilla, keep an eye on, please.
Here we go.
All right.
Padilla?
What do you think?
Huh?
I don't know. You don't know.
It's fucking great, Alex.
It's great.
Hey.
You can't remember what happens to you when someone's breaking into our home.
You can't remember how that person ends up on the ground with a knife a foot
away.
in America, Chris.
Protecting you.
That's what I was doing.
Okay, ready?
You want to step this way, man?
I never could have afforded a place like this at your age.
I don't worry about it. It's standard.
We record everything.
If you don't want to talk or you want to call an attorney, it's okay.
I personally think we can take care of this right here.
Without having to go to the station and make a whole big scary thing for you
guys.
But I do have to report it.
Okay?
It's fine.
Honestly, we just want to put this behind us as quickly as possible.
Thank you.
I don't think I ever got your name.
Alexandra. Alexandra.
And your husband?
Chris.
Christian.
Great.
So, Alexandra, walk me through what happened here tonight.
Well, um, I heard a scream from the kitchen. I came out running, and
when I got there, we all saw Chris all upset and some woman on the floor
a knife, and we called the police.
That's it?
Yeah. Okay. Well, I might ask you to step that out for me a bit, but I have a
few questions. First, when you arrived, you said, we all saw Chris there.
Did the girls get there before you got there?
Um... I don't know exactly
who got there when. I mean...
I was there first, but it was all around the same time, I think.
We all heard a noise and came running, and it was pretty chaotic.
So I don't know who exactly got there when, but like I said, it was around the
same time, more or less, as far as I can remember.
All right, well, we might revisit that as well.
And you mentioned that we called the police, but it was your husband who
correct?
Yes.
Okay. And did you come in contact with the victim?
The victim?
The intruder, yes.
Well,
like I said, by the time I got there, she was already unconscious.
So you didn't have any contact with her at all?
I mean, I did check to
see if she was breathing.
So you did actually touch her?
I mean, I just checked to see if she was alive or not. Of course.
Where did you touch her?
I don't exactly remember.
Checked her pulse.
Her neck or her wrist?
I think I grabbed her coat and
put my head near her chest to see if she was breathing.
Wait, so you grabbed her coat and put your head up to her chest?
Something like that.
I don't exactly remember.
Boy, you're going to want to remember this part.
They take fingerprints.
The details matter.
Honestly, it was just really
crazy and just really chaotic. I understand.
I just don't remember exactly who did what exactly and when.
I want to talk about that knife.
Did you recognize it?
Uh, no.
No, not really.
Not really?
Um... Uh... I don't understand.
It looked like a regular knife.
We have a few of them, so...
Well, so is one of your knives.
No, no.
It looked like one of the ones we may have.
But you said it looked like a regular knife.
It did.
Which could mean it came from anywhere.
Exactly.
Would you like a glass of water, Alexandra?
No.
Look, you are being interrogated.
This is currently a crime scene, so if what you've told me is true, there's
nothing to worry about. You don't need a lawyer.
It'll all be over very quickly and everything's going to be fine.
But if what you've told me is in any way not true, it will not be fine.
So, I'll offer you a chance to tell this story again from the beginning, keeping
in mind what I just said.
I know this is a confusing and difficult moment, I get it. So if you made any
missteps telling me the first time, it's okay. Not a problem. We can fix it.
But the truth.
Mm -hmm.
The truth here is everything, you understand me?
Hey, you wanna smoke?
Uh, no, thank you.
You want a jacket or something?
No.
I'm good.
Let me know. It's cold out here, man.
So, what do you do for a living?
I'm in construction.
What? She's a teacher, second grade.
What's with her face?
She's got an interview in the morning, so... Fingers crossed.
Thanks.
So, construction?
Uh, yeah.
That's got to be tough.
Long hours on your feet all day.
What do you do for the pain?
Fight through, I guess.
I hear you there.
Had back surgery a while ago.
Couldn't pick up my kid.
On my own, got to get up for work in the morning.
Just still fighting through.
I take medication, too.
So?
Tell me what happened here tonight.
Well, I was asleep in bed, my wife and I, and I heard
a noise. I came into the kitchen, and that woman was standing there.
And, uh... Then
what?
Christian.
Sorry.
I asked her to leave, and
she wouldn't.
And about how far apart were the two of you standing at this point?
I don't know. 10, 12 feet.
So you were talking for a while before anything happened? Well, not for a
I just asked her to leave, but she wouldn't.
So I remember I moved closer to her, but I wasn't threatening or anything.
It's okay. Keep going.
Yeah, and she just sort of jumped out at me.
When you say jumped out.
She attacked me.
With a knife?
Yeah. But did you get cut at all?
No. No, I don't think so. No.
No. But it all happened so fast, and, you know, I didn't really see much.
And then when she came at me, I just put my hands up, and, you know, she was out
of it at that point.
Drugs, maybe?
No, I don't think so.
Anyway, like I said, it happened so fast. And next thing you know, she's on
ground and the tile and... Yeah.
Look, I know you're scared.
But I promise you, there are laws that play in your favor here.
I mean, if she was a real threat, an intruder coming at you with a knife and
all...
What I'm saying is, if you went off on her, we'll see it.
The autopsy, the forensics, we'll see it.
So it's better to tell me exactly what happened.
How it happened.
That's what I'm doing.
Well, no, not really. It's kind of vague.
I mean, I'm hearing things like maybe she came at you, but not really flinging
that knife.
And then maybe she fell and died.
I didn't say that.
Oh, you want me to play it back?
And it's cold out here.
Hang tight.
Listen,
I just wanted to talk to both of you. I'm getting conflicting stories here,
I need to get down to the bottom of it. I figured I'd save us all some time.
Okay, what's confusing?
Well, a number of things. For instance...
You say the victim attacked you, but there's no signs of that anywhere, no
no bruises.
And you say you heard a scream, saw the victim on the floor, but you can't
remember who got there when or what happened next.
And you said you touched her or ejected her pulse, but you can't say where or
when or how.
Look,
I'm just trying to help you out, keep you guys from some potentially serious
consequences.
But I can't help you unless you give me a straight story.
Both of you.
Okay? We told you what we know.
I'm not looking for what you know.
I'm looking for what happened.
Exactly what happened.
So, I'm going to try this again, and I need you to think clearly and think
calmly. Okay?
Okay, so.
A woman breaks into your house. You find her, correct?
Yes. And she has a weapon. When you see her, a knife.
And she attacks you, correct?
Yes. Hang on.
Yes, she did.
And did you have anything with you? Were you armed at all? No, I was not.
There's no reason someone like this would break into your house, correct?
What do you mean?
Well, is there any reason that the person...
How is that relevant?
It's all relevant.
When you've been in my line of work as long as I have, it's all relevant. What
are you implying? I'm not implying anything.
I'm simply asking a question.
This is a breaking and entering case, and in this neighborhood, that usually
happens for one of two reasons.
The person knows there's something specific in the house that they want, or
they're just stopping by to say hi.
And it's rarely the latter.
So, I'm going to ask again.
No.
We did not invite a criminal into our home.
Okay.
Okay, all right.
I'm going to take it back to the knife for a second.
You said you had a number of knives that looked similar. I did not.
But initially you assumed it was one of yours, correct, ma 'am?
Wait a minute. Don't accuse my wife of assuming anything. Either she said it or
she didn't. You don't get to determine what she meant.
You're right.
And stop calling her the victim.
She's not the victim here. She broke into our home. She frightened our
so she's not the victim.
Okay. All right, look.
It's getting late, and I'm just going to be straight with you.
In a moment, I'm going to have to go into your house, and I am going to take
statements from both of your daughters, and I will very quickly get to the
bottom of what happened here tonight.
All of it.
Now you have a choice. Excuse me, detective.
The baby's crying.
Detective Francis Carlson questioning Riley, a minor.
Mother is present.
Thank you.
What are you doing?
Just coloring.
You must be pretty tired, I bet.
No, I always stay up this late.
Is everything okay now?
Almost.
I just have to ask a few more questions and then we'll be all done.
Charlie, do you know what happened here tonight?
Yeah.
The lady broke into our house and tried to hurt my dad.
Anything else?
Hmm?
Do you remember seeing your dad tonight at all?
I mean, before the lady broke in?
Yeah. He said goodnight to us.
Did you notice anything different about him at the time?
Hmm?
Anything pretty normal?
Yeah, but he smelled.
Like what?
Beer.
Sometimes he drinks beer even though he's not supposed to. Not supposed to?
My mom doesn't let him drink because he says he's not himself and he drinks
alcohol drinks.
Yeah, I can understand that.
Remember anything else?
lady broke into your house.
Did your dad say what happened?
Uh -huh.
He panicked.
What's that?
He said he panicked.
You know, Riley, you're the one person in this house who doesn't seem nervous.
Oh, it's okay.
Here, I have your dress.
It's okay. It's all right.
You know, your dad was really smart to call when he died. You know that, right?
Huh?
Can I talk to my mommy?
Is everything okay?
You'll be fine.
I'm going to talk to Kendra now.
Where can I find her?
She's in the living room.
I'll be right there. It's okay.
Give me a second. I should be there.
Ma 'am.
Ma 'am. You okay?
Okay, just give me a second, baby.
Kendra? Kendra, wait. Don't say a word. Kendra?
Kendra, don't say a word. Ma 'am?
Don't touch me, Kendra. Just listen to me. Kendra, I need to ask you some
questions. Get your understanding of what happened here tonight, okay?
Kendra, just don't say anything.
Alexandra, I can either interview her here or now, like we all agreed.
Or we can take her down to the station and do this differently, okay? No. Ma
'am, stop.
Ma 'am. No. Please escort her back to the bedroom. Let's go. Do not touch me.
Kendra, just listen to me. No. Ma 'am, stop.
Excuse me. Ma 'am.
Kendra, you know what's happening here, right?
You're already all right. You're busy.
Look at me, sweetheart. I'm not going to hurt you.
I just want to talk to you. Can I just speak to my daughter? I don't understand
why you're trying to talk to her without me.
Wait,
sweetie. Don't say anything.
Ma 'am, stop.
Hey, sir. Hey.
Hey, get back here. Hey, sir.
Sir. Hey. Hey. Hey, company. Hey.
Okay.
Okay. Okay. Okay.
Okay.
Do not move.
Keep your hands up. It's okay. Hey.
Hey. Okay.
Okay. It's okay. Okay.
Stand down.
She needs her pump.
She has asthma. She needs her pump, please. Hurry.
Where is it? In the bathroom.
He'll get it.
Okay.
It'll be all right.
It'll be all right.
Mom.
Let it go.
They're the process.
Talk to you for a minute.
Let's be thorough.
It's fine, baby.
It's gonna be okay.
It's been a long night. I know you guys have been through a lot. Enough.
Okay? My kids are scared. My wife is scared. I understand.
We don't want to press any charges on that woman. We just want it to end.
Please. I understand you feel that way. But unfortunately, it doesn't work like
that. I don't care. I don't care. Someone broke into your home. Listen.
Listen to me.
I'm asking you to end this for the sake of my family. Please.
Please. A crime was committed.
The intruder could potentially lose her life.
I cannot leave this place until I finish my process.
Does that make sense?
Listen, I know it was a scary scene out there, and I am sorry.
We can give her some time, get her breath, relax, get it together.
But I've got to talk to her.
I've got to complete my report.
I do that and I promise we will be done.
Do you understand?
got your refill i
just want to say how sorry i am about this
horrible night and i know it all feels pretty scary i probably feel pretty
too but i promise i'm not i know you guys have been through a lot tonight i
just want you to know i'm i'm here to help thank you
So, Kendra, I'm supposed to record your statement, and I just want to make sure
you're okay with that.
Detective Carlson, questioning Kendra, Minor.
Parents are present.
So, Kendra, I'm just going to start with you like I started with everyone.
Can you tell me what you remember from tonight?
What happened earlier?
Yeah. So we came into the kitchen when we heard, like, a loud noise or
like that.
And when we got there, my dad was on the phone with the police, and my
mom was standing over the lady.
The lady that broke into your house?
Okay, so the lady that broke into your house is on the floor.
Good.
Do you know how she got there?
Self -defense.
What do you mean?
My dad was defending himself.
She tried to hurt him.
And he defended himself.
Yeah,
and a knife.
Okay, so go back a little bit.
Your dad is on the phone with the police and your mom is standing over this
lady.
Anything happen before the police came in?
Kendra, I've been having a terrible time trying to find the truth of what
happened here tonight.
And you seem like the type of person that can help me get there.
So I'm going to need your help, okay?
I'm going to tell you what I think happened, and you just let me know if
the right track. Sound good?
Okay.
I think a strange woman broke into your house.
Your dad found her, and he got scared, more understandably.
But then I think he got mad because he worked really hard to get you guys this
house.
breaks in, tried to hurt his family.
And then when he tried to get her to leave, and she didn't want to,
I think he got really mad.
I think he may have hurt that woman.
And when you guys saw her bleeding on the floor, I think someone realized how
bad it was.
Someone like me showed up, right?
So your parents called the police because they're smart folks.
But I think that... That knife... I
think that knife belonged to your dad, maybe.
I think it had been in the house the whole time.
And I think that one of you...
one of you thought it might be a good idea if you just picked it up and put it
in the woman's hand, just to make it look a little bit better.
And if you tell me you did it, you can save your family a whole lot of trouble.
Probably some jail time.
Kendra, I think you're really smart.
really, really brave.
You just tell me who did it.
It'll all be over.
We'll leave.
It'll all go back to normal.
Truth is, I pretty much already know who did it.
I just need you to confirm it for me.
I know it was your mom who did it. It wasn't her.
If it wasn't her, who was it?
Long night.
The name Mary Duvall Thompson sound familiar to you?
Mary Duvall. Mary Duvall Thompson?
No. No.
That's the name of a lady who broke into your home.
Thanks, Elise. She's going to be all right.
Thank you.
Yeah, it looks like she was just knocked unconscious, had some bleeding, nothing
to cause any major issue.
In fact, Mary is alert and active.
It's funny how that happens sometimes.
What'd she say?
What'd she say?
Well, yeah, did she give a reason why she'd broken her own?
We haven't questioned her yet, but apparently she lives in the
There's been a lot of drug dealing around here lately, you know, people
to make an extra buck.
And every now and then you get a user showing up in someone's house looking
whatever they can find.
But why us?
I don't know.
We'll get to the bottom of it.
You know, just out of curiosity, how much did you have to drink tonight?
He doesn't drink.
Christian? Baby, tell her.
Christian?
Baby.
You have a lot of trouble sleeping at night.
Do I? I noticed a couple of unmarked medicine vials in the bathroom.
Those are pain pills. He has a bad back.
Xanax, Oxycontin, controlled substance.
It's for pain.
You take those two together, you get a lot of confusion.
Start to forget things, stumble here and there.
You add alcohol to the equation, you're really in trouble.
Yeah, I know.
Prescription, right?
Right.
We'll take care of the intruder. She'll pay for what she did. You have my word.
We're just checking on one other thing and we'll be out of your hair.
Here we go.
Give me a second.
Yeah.
What aren't you telling me?
Shh.
Shh.
You all right?
Mm -hmm.
So you're going to be okay?
All right.
Chris, you lied to me.
Didn't you?
What? That is your knife, isn't it?
No. Yes.
Yes, it is.
Sorry, Mommy.
And based on the information gathered here tonight, we have reason to believe
that that knife was placed in the intruder's hand.
No.
Unfortunately, that is a felony, tampering with a crime scene.
So, Christian, I'm going to have to place you under arrest.
Sir, I need you to step forward, please.
Sir, I need you to step forward.
Step forward.
Sir, I need you to step forward.
Put your hands behind your back.
You have the right to remain silent.
Anything you say can and will be held against you before the law.
You have the right to an attorney.
If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you.
Please, please, you're making him escape.
Stop, stop.
He didn't do anything. Sir, do you understand the rights that have been
you? Sir, please.
No, don't do this. Mom, do something.
Don't take my husband.
Please. Take your children inside.
Please. Why don't you take your children inside? Don't tell me what to do with
my kids.
I've always believed that the choices we made belong to us.
And no matter what, the decisions and the consequences were
left for us alone to deal with.
No regrets.
No going back in time.
I asked my grandma once, what happens when you make a bad choice?
She said, you pray to God, ask for forgiveness,
and hope you don't leave the ones you love to deal with your mess.
Forty -five.
Receiving medical.
10 -4.
45, did you say victim is possible client?
45, that is correct.
10 -45, do we have any cryos on the address?
We'll check.
10 -45, 10 -97 area.
10 -45, 10 -4.
Last anger unit, you had static.
10 -42, 10 -4. 10 -42, 10 -4.
10 -45, I stay here at night.
10 -4.
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