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Can I sit here?
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- Yeah.
- All right.
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- How y'all doing today?
- All right.
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- All right.
- I'm all right.
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What's life like for y'all right now?
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- Day by day, bro.
- Oh, yeah?
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You're trying to make the time
go by, you know what I'm saying?
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How long have you been in the system?
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When I first got locked
up, is that what you mean?
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- Yes, sir.
- So I was 12.
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Been in just since 12 to 17 now.
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I'm about to like... eight, nine times.
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I missed the last three Christmases
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just being locked up
on Christmas. I won't...
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Like just on... I'm always
locked up on Christmas, so.
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I was 15 years old...
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just like five years before I
was believing in Santa Claus.
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I mean, I'm going on
three years, um, but...
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and I got... I got
50 more, to be honest.
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I got 50 more years to do.
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Um...
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So it ain't... Me, I got a while left,
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but I'm gonna... I'm gonna
try to turn it around.
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I'm gonna find a way to
turn it around somehow.
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I don't know.
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Hmm.
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What's up with you, sista?
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My first time being
incarcerated, I was about 14.
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I been in and out ever since then.
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The last... most last
recent time I caught,
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when I was 16, they
tried me as an adult.
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Growing up in my
household was different.
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Sometimes no light, no water, no food,
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so I turned to the streets, for real.
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And the streets got me, but
now it ain't got me no more.
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But... I'm supposed go to the DOC today.
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How long you gonna be in DOC for?
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I had 33 years total, they suspended 18.
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I did three up here, but
they ain't count, so...
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- You have 33 years?
- Yeah.
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You caught your first
charge at, what, 13, 14?
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Yeah, like 13, 14.
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And the gun charges, the robbery,
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and the grand theft auto charges...
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- Mm-hmm.
- ... that you landed,
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that is what you are being charged
with 33 years in prison for?
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Yeah. But I feel, like, for my parents.
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My dad, he already 64.
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So I'm like, damn, I may not come home.
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What if he pass away or something?
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I can't tell him I'm sorry
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for all the wrongs I done did,
and all that, and I love you.
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I can't say that. He'll
already be gone then.
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- Yeah.
- Part of me,
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glad I'm locked up, 'cause
I got my shit together
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while I'm doing them...
doing them years,
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but it don't take 30 years for
you to get your shit together.
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This building we're in right now
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was actually built in the mid 1990s,
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when people were starting to respond
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to youth crime with adult consequences,
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and people were describing kids
as juvenile super-predators.
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- Mm-hmm.
- So, they were building
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adult-like facilities like this
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because they thought that was
the right way to respond to kids.
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And what they forgot
was, they were kids.
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There are no violent
offenses that are juvenile.
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You shoot somebody, you're an adult.
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Recent statistics may indicate
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violent crime is declining nationwide,
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but it's rising among young people.
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They should be caged like wild animals
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because that's what they are.
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If I had my way, I'd borrow
the Ringling Brothers' cages
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and cage these drug pushers
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and exhibit them, so
the kids can see scum.
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This has reached epidemic proportions.
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They are not just gangs of kids anymore.
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They are often the kinds of kids
that are called super predators:
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no conscience, no empathy.
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I'm directing the FBI
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and other investigative agencies
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to target gangs that involve
juveniles in violent crime,
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and to seek authority
to prosecute as adults
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teenagers who maim and kill like adults.
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So, this your first
time ever being arrested?
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- Right? Okay.
- Mm-hmm.
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And you're 13.
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So what got you here today?
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Um, my dad and my mom,
they got separated,
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and then my mom got full custody of me,
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and I was just staying
at my dad's yesterday.
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- Oh, okay.
- And I thought I was able to
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stay with my dad, but I guess I wasn't.
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So, Mom said you couldn't
go to Dad's tonight?
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Okay. So then that's when
you had the little tussle
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with the officer and your mom?
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How long Mom and Dad been
having those problems?
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Mm-hmm. For a long time.
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A long time?
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It's all right.
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We'll get you a tissue if you need one.
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There's a lot going on, isn't it?
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Just keep breathing for me, okay?
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This 13-year-old experienced
his first run-in with the law:
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pushing a cop during an argument
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about which parent he
was going to stay with.
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But instead of putting
him in a jail cell,
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the officials here in Toledo, Ohio,
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are figuring out how they can
help him rather than detain him.
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Your case is gonna be unofficial.
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- Do you know what that means?
- Nope.
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It's kind of like you don't
have a record at court, okay?
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And then, we're going to
talk to you and your mom
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about some things that may help you.
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Hi, Dad. How are you?
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- This is a little overwhelming. Yeah, I know.
- Yup. This is almost overwhelming.
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Yup. We don't want him getting into
our system. You know how that is.
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I've been trying to get out
of the system since I started,
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and I'm still in the
system, fighting for him.
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And I told you, I don't
want you being like me.
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Done told you that... How
many times, a million times?
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It's so important to help at-risk youth
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at the first signs of trouble,
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because kids who touch
the system at a young age
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have a greater chance
of serving serious time
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just a few years later.
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Eric's first contact with the
system was at 11 years old.
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And now at 17, he's facing
punishment for armed robbery.
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This is the matter of
Eric, aggravated robbery...
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felony of the first degree.
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Eric is currently on
probation for burglary F2
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and carrying concealed weapon,
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this being his third time on probation.
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He was on GPS monitoring.
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Within one week, he committed
this current offense.
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So, Eric, this is a... sad day.
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For whatever reason that would be,
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you made the decision.
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You have the ability
to make the changes.
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You're just gonna have to make
the changes in a different setting.
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I am going to commit you to the
Department of Youth Services,
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and I'm gonna give you
the maximum sentence
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of a minimum of three
years up to age 21.
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- Thank you. Good luck.
- Thank you.
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For Judge Denise Cubbon,
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sentencing teens like
Eric to juvenile prison
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is a method of last resort.
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She's presided over this
juvenile court for 13 years
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and has seen firsthand
how incarcerating kids
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not only fails to reduce crime,
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it has set up generations
of young people
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for a lifetime of failure.
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The thought for years was
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that incarceration would
rehabilitate people,
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but that's not the case.
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We were sending kids to the
Department of Youth Services...
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that's kids' prison...
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by leaps and bounds.
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And they would come home
and what would they do?
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What they know best:
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Continue to commit offenses,
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because they became unemployable,
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they perhaps didn't have
education to rely on.
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The reality is we lost a
population of young kids,
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and to what?
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Our crime rates were continuing to rise.
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Things weren't any better.
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If anything, they may have been worse.
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Growing up in a violent neighborhood,
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I saw firsthand how the young people
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in my community ended up in the system.
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While some went in for selling drugs,
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I went in rehab for using.
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I been in my own version of this
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growing up, and yeah, it sucks.
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Trust me, though, I wish
when I was in this situation,
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I took it more seriously.
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I would've saved myself more
grief when I went back out.
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How you feel about the
program, that you're in here?
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Ever since I was young out there...
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seven, eight, nine... on
the block, selling drugs.
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To me, if I don't change
the way I'm thinking,
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I'm gonna be somewhere worser than here
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or probably dead.
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In the streets, the same
people gonna be there,
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the same drugs. Ain't
nothing gonna change,
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and you gotta realize that in
order to do something different.
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Basically they teach us, how
you think is how you behave.
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If I'm thinking I wanna be big
and bad, I'm gonna act big and bad.
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But if I'm thinking, do the right thing,
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I'm gonna do the right thing.
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I realize there are certain
things I gotta let go of,
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and I'm in-between
what I wanna let go of
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and what I don't.
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- It's a battle within yourself.
- Mm-hmm.
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That's how I feel sometimes.
I come out at war with myself,
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like I ain't really got no peace at all.
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And that bothers me.
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Kriston, one youth
with multiple offenses,
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was most recently arrested
for a firearm charge.
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What do you think is the cause
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for all the violence in your community?
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Everybody wanna fit in,
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so it became a trend
to become a gangbanger,
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it became a trend to
have all that money.
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Me and my good friend had a term:
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If I got regular Oreos,
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but you got the Double Stuf Oreos,
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we're coming to get your
Oreos, 'cause we need 'em.
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So basically, that's how we live.
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We enjoy shooting each other.
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We enjoy pulling up on your
street and shooting at you.
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I been around it all my
life. All my cousins...
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You're a baby. Sixteen,
you're still a baby.
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You make 16 like you're an
old man. You're still a baby.
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What are you talking about? I
got socks older than 16 years old.
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With over 850,000
juvenile arrests a year
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and 48,000 kids sitting
in lock-up daily,
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the US has
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the highest incarceration rate
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of kids on Earth.
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And once these young people are
sentenced to juvenile facilities,
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they've been found to be 38 times
more likely to reoffend as adults.
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For my nephew Dominic,
it took one fatal mistake
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as a teenager to be sentenced
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to 25 years to life in prison.
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One day defending his twin brother,
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who was being accosted
by a gang of teenagers,
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Dom shot and killed another
teen with an illegal firearm.
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Let's talk about that
one moment in your life.
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Could you or would you have
handled the situation differently?
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I've often thought about
this whole situation,
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sometimes until exhaustion.
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I lay down at night in that cage,
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and I say to myself, "What happened?
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Where'd you go wrong at?"
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But I also think that we
don't have to be defined
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- by that one worst moment in our life.
- Absolutely.
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And for me, that's what this is about.
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Mm-hmm.
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Wow.
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What year was this?
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Probably it's '94, '95.
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Look how young I look.
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You looked young, you were
young, you were a baby.
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How many men that are in here now
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went into the system as
minors, like yourself?
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You know what? It's been a lot.
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Coming to prison, there
were a lot of people
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from our community who were 18, 17.
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A lot of young men who were going
through different challenges...
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everything from mental
health to sexual abuse issues,
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lack of education, lack of
awareness, lack of self-confidence.
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Their priorities are twisted.
They're not making it.
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While behind the prison walls,
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Dominic has decided to pay it forward
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by counseling and mentoring
the other men there.
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He leads a group called Exodus,
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where he encourages them to
do the work on the inside,
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so they can make a healthy
and successful transition.
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Because of Dom's resolve and
his resemblance to the fighter,
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they lovingly call him "Tyson."
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I'm one of the adolescents,
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one of the guys who came
in at a very young age, 16.
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What we are doing down
here is changing lives.
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If it wasn't for Tyson, I wouldn't be
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who I aspire to be, who I am now.
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I love because of these men.
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Okay.
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- Peace.
- Peace.
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How y'all brothers doing, man?
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- How's everybody doing?
- Great. Great.
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Part of this process is to
remember what we've done.
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Too many children,
too many grandchildren,
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have been affected by our conduct.
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Most of you guys have
well over 10 years served
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in a maximum security prison.
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How many people came to
prison at a very young age?
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I want you to raise your hand.
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Think about that. Think about that.
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I came to prison when
I was 16 years old.
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I'm 40 years old at the moment.
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One thing that I value most
in this life is my family.
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Due to my actions, I disgraced them.
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I came to jail at 16.
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A lot of people gave up on me.
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That kind of messed
with my insecurities.
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It just was me choosing the streets
and going the route I went in.
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I became rebellious,
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and I ran with this
rebelliousness to the streets.
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I turned 13 when I ran with it,
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thinking that I was man enough
to command those streets.
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What are gonna be some
of the tools that you use
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that is gonna keep you out of prison?
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Basically finding the root,
the root of the problem,
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going way back, where
everything started.
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For many incarcerated
people across the country,
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their troubles with crime,
violence, and the system
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started when they were young.
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The arrest rates for many crimes,
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like murder, robbery, and car theft,
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peak in late teenage years
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and then begin to fall drastically.
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Dr. Larry Steinberg is
a leading psychologist
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in analyzing juvenile crimes,
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and what he has found
is that this phenomenon
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is directly connected to
adolescent brain development.
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So, Larry, why do you think
we have one of the largest
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juvenile justice problems in all of
the developed countries in the world?
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I think there are a couple of reasons.
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One is that we criminalize
normal adolescent behavior.
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You know, adolescence
is a time when kids do
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a lot of risky and reckless things.
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There's a part of the brain,
called the prefrontal cortex,
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that's really important for self-control
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and anticipating the future
consequences of your decisions.
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This brain system
isn't completely mature
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- until people are in their early 20s.
- Yes.
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We know that teenagers already have
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an easily aroused reward
system in their brain.
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You're more likely to
get angry at that age.
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You're more likely to feel
threatened at that age.
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And we're now understanding
that there's this mismatch
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between this easily
aroused part of the brain
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and a still immature part of your brain.
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We like to say, "It's a
time when the accelerator
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is pressed down to the floor
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but there's not a good
braking system in place,"
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and that's what adolescence is like.
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We can't reform criminal justice
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without reforming juvenile justice,
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because there's almost nobody
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- who's locked up in prison...
- As an adult.
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... as an adult who
wasn't doing stuff...
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- Something stupid when they were young.
- ... when they were young.
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Dr. Steinberg has been exploring
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the psychological differences
between teens and adults
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through a series of experiments
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on how peer pressure
affects impulsive behavior.
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The idea here is that
the faster you get there,
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the more money that you're able to get.
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But along the way you're gonna
come to a series of intersections,
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and at each one, you're going
to have to make a decision.
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And if you keep going, you might
beat the light and get there faster.
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But if the light turns red, you
could crash into another car. Okay?
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This is definite... no way.
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Oh!
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Oh-ho!
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Oh man!
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What was the difference
in the brain activity?
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Well, what we found in this research
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was that when teenagers
are with their friends,
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their reward centers
get activated especially,
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but we didn't see any
difference for adults.
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We then developed this theory
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that the presence of
their friends activates
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their brain's reward centers
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in ways that makes them pay attention
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to the potential
rewards of a risky choice
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and to not pay attention
to the potential downside.
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Being accepted by peers,
that also is something
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that we find in the world of addiction,
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which is where I come from.
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So one of the really
interesting discoveries
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that brain scientists have made
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is that people who start
using early in adolescence
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are seven to 10 times more
likely to develop an addiction
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than people who use the same
substances in the same amounts,
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but don't start until they're 21.
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Nobody is saying that we should excuse
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- criminal behavior.
- No sir, no sir, not at all.
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But we need to respond in ways
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that are going to help that person
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return to the community
in a better place.
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We wanted to see what programs in the US
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are trying to find a better way.
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Back in Judge Cubbon's
district in Toledo,
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they are reducing the
incarceration numbers
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by placing each kid in a program
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that best suits their
individual situation.
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Tyron was detained for carrying
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a concealed weapon at 16.
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He is now in a probation program
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that allows him to continue to live
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in his community and attend school.
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You was locked up?
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Yeah, I got there catching a gun charge.
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Okay, all right. How old were you
when you caught the gun charge?
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- Sixteen.
- Sixteen. And what program are you in right now?
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- CTC.
- CTC?
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What do those three letters stand for?
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A community treatment center.
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Community treatment center.
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What's your situation and
what are your obligations?
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Show up every day, go to school,
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talk to them about
what I be going through
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and stuff like that. Life skills.
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Are there any adult males
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in your family or in contact that...
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- Contact in a good way?
- Positive, yeah.
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Pssh. Pfft!
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- Not that I know of.
- Everybody in the game, huh?
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Everybody got an addiction.
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Addicted to the streets.
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I lost my best friend
when I was locked up.
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Murdered? Yeah?
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You ever think about
doing something stupid?
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All the time.
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I got some shit to worry about.
I got this other one where...
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We followed Tyron to one
of his program check-ins.
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That's not my cup of tea.
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- Okay.
- That's not my flavor of ice, you know?
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You feel me though?
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- I feel you, man.
- You feel me though, "G"?
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I feel you.
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- No, you gotta say...
- "G."
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- Good morning.
- Good morning.
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This is the Lucas County
Court of Common Pleas,
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juvenile division. This
is the matter of Tyron.
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So, we'll start. Mr. Wilson.
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Yes, Your Honor. Since the last review,
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we've been working with Tyron,
he's been cooperative with CTC,
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he has not missed, he
has been attending school.
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And the concern we have
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is that he is not returning
home in the evenings,
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and that's part of his
condition of the CTC program.
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So in the last two weeks, how
many nights has he not been home?
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Every night.
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The concern is safety again,
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his whereabouts when
he's not in our sight.
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Marijuana usage?
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- Yes, he did...
- Oh. Okay, yeah.
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He did test positive.
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Okay. Mom.
436
00:20:20,266 --> 00:20:21,599
All these good reports is fine,
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but I don't see them, 'cause
y'all ain't gotta live with me.
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You sitting up here, and you
call yourself a grown man.
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I don't know where he's at at night,
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I don't hear from him, I
don't get no calls from him.
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And I'm gonna guess
that you're frustrated
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because you're in recovery yourself?
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Okay.
444
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Okay, so the floor is yours.
Why aren't you going home?
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- My mama.
- So, what's the problem?
446
00:20:51,563 --> 00:20:53,696
All right, so I don't believe in God.
447
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She want me...
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she be wanting me to go to church.
449
00:20:57,201 --> 00:20:58,646
She be trying to force
me to go to church,
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and I don't believe in God. She...
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00:21:00,204 --> 00:21:03,472
she get mad when I say that. You see?
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- That's my belief, though. I...
- Okay, listen to me
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while your mother is out of the room.
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If you told me where you were staying,
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- I wouldn't approve? Is that correct or not correct?
- I already told him that.
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- You're not answering my question.
- Yes.
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Okay, so, Tyron, we... the
court and me, personally...
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are giving you an opportunity
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to take advantage of services...
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Nope, nope, nope. I'm talking,
you're listening, okay?
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You can sit down.
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00:21:35,272 --> 00:21:38,073
We know that you can do this,
463
00:21:38,107 --> 00:21:41,410
but your safety and safety of others...
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that's why we have to know
where you are all the time.
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I will give you credit on school,
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but I'm not gonna give you credit
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on leaving the house and being
disrespectful to your mom.
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You have to go walk the steps
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so you can be trusted in situations.
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It's hard. Yes, this is a high-risk
offending kid with a lot of needs,
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but if we can keep him in the community,
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we are increasing the likelihood that
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that kid is gonna be successful.
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When did you start seeing your numbers
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go the other way, go down?
476
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In the '90s, we had a population rate
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in our detention center that varied
between 75 and 100 children, daily.
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Today, we have 24.
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Rather than be sent to
adult-like prison facilities,
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offenders who qualify
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enter Lucas County's comprehensive
rehabilitation program.
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Youth who are accepted into
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the Lucas County Youth Treatment Center
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are felony offenders. It is lockdown.
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We do a lot of cognitive
behavioral work:
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education, mental health.
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Most kids in kids' prison
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would not have that opportunity.
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We saw the positive effects
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of this program six months later
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when we met up with one of our
friends, seeing some real change.
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This was like a wakeup call.
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Like, I can't... I
can't go back out there
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and make the same decisions that I made
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because I know the outcome.
496
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I feel like >I'm the one
taking that step outside the box
497
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when I go to school, get an education,
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go to college, start my own business.
499
00:23:12,267 --> 00:23:15,367
Gangbanging or being in the streets,
500
00:23:15,403 --> 00:23:19,271
it's gonna lead me to one or two boxes:
501
00:23:19,307 --> 00:23:21,473
a cell or a casket.
502
00:23:21,509 --> 00:23:24,477
So why continue to do the same thing?
503
00:23:24,511 --> 00:23:26,612
I think about what suit I'm gonna buy
504
00:23:26,647 --> 00:23:29,346
when I get out, not
what gun I'm gonna buy.
505
00:23:29,383 --> 00:23:31,983
Mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm!
506
00:23:32,019 --> 00:23:34,653
There's always a method to
my madness, young brother.
507
00:23:34,688 --> 00:23:38,390
I'm trying to die of a heart attack
from being, like, 80 or something.
508
00:23:38,424 --> 00:23:41,625
I'm not trying to die
from being shot. What?
509
00:23:41,662 --> 00:23:44,128
It is crucial to rehabilitate
youth like Kriston
510
00:23:44,164 --> 00:23:47,164
as soon as possible because
of where they can end up
511
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,268
if they commit >more
serious crimes down the line.
512
00:23:56,041 --> 00:23:57,776
This is Grandma House.
513
00:23:57,810 --> 00:24:01,813
This is maximum security for women.
514
00:24:01,847 --> 00:24:04,425
The women that come here for,
like, the most heinous crimes.
515
00:24:04,450 --> 00:24:06,383
- Yeah, yeah.
- All on this facility?
516
00:24:06,419 --> 00:24:10,221
- Yeah. 15.
- And they put you here as a 15-year-old girl?
517
00:24:10,256 --> 00:24:13,656
Felicia Pearson is probably
best known as "Snoop,"
518
00:24:13,692 --> 00:24:15,926
one of my costars on The Wire.
519
00:24:15,961 --> 00:24:17,795
Before Felicia's career in TV,
520
00:24:17,830 --> 00:24:20,530
she served time in a
maximum-security prison
521
00:24:20,566 --> 00:24:22,231
for second-degree murder.
522
00:24:22,267 --> 00:24:24,233
What was going through
your mind at 15 years old...
523
00:24:24,269 --> 00:24:27,304
Like, "How the hell I
get in this motherfucker?
524
00:24:27,339 --> 00:24:29,038
How the hell I get in here?"
525
00:24:29,074 --> 00:24:33,076
I'm thinking that I gotta go to
war as soon as I come in here,
526
00:24:33,111 --> 00:24:36,378
because I'm locked up
in here with adults.
527
00:24:36,413 --> 00:24:40,516
It ain't no place that a
child supposed to grow up.
528
00:24:42,554 --> 00:24:45,188
Felicia's troubles began early in life.
529
00:24:45,223 --> 00:24:47,623
She was born to a crack-addicted mother
530
00:24:47,659 --> 00:24:50,759
and was raised by foster
parents in East Baltimore.
531
00:24:50,795 --> 00:24:53,796
This is where Mama brought
you home from the hospital?
532
00:24:53,832 --> 00:24:56,865
Yeah, right here. This the house.
533
00:24:56,901 --> 00:24:58,400
She planted this tree.
534
00:24:58,434 --> 00:25:01,135
This is a good luck charm.
You know what I'm saying?
535
00:25:01,172 --> 00:25:04,472
For real, man. Anybody that
just stab it, kick it...
536
00:25:04,508 --> 00:25:06,174
I don't care what you do to it,
537
00:25:06,210 --> 00:25:09,310
some bad luck gonna come
to you, I promise you, man.
538
00:25:09,346 --> 00:25:13,314
And this is where Pop used to
get the switches out the tree...
539
00:25:15,853 --> 00:25:18,420
... and whip my ass! Yeah!
540
00:25:19,789 --> 00:25:22,167
Did you know where your
biological mother ever lived?
541
00:25:22,192 --> 00:25:24,692
Yeah, over west. They
let me be with her,
542
00:25:24,728 --> 00:25:27,194
and she had took my clothes and stuff,
543
00:25:27,230 --> 00:25:29,931
and my counselor was like,
"Nah, you can't come back."
544
00:25:29,965 --> 00:25:31,365
Yeah. Come on.
545
00:25:31,401 --> 00:25:33,433
- That the last time you seen her?
- Yeah.
546
00:25:33,469 --> 00:25:35,669
They said she had got locked up
547
00:25:35,704 --> 00:25:37,704
when I was locked up
over at city jail...
548
00:25:37,740 --> 00:25:40,740
- Yeah.
- ... but I ain't know who she was.
549
00:25:40,777 --> 00:25:43,010
I probably wouldn't
recognize her because...
550
00:25:43,046 --> 00:25:45,746
Wait, wait, wait, wait. You
and your biological mother
551
00:25:45,781 --> 00:25:48,214
- were locked up at the same time?
- Yeah.
552
00:25:50,019 --> 00:25:53,621
Yup. And she just probably
walked right past me.
553
00:25:53,655 --> 00:25:55,655
I think about that
shit all the time, man.
554
00:25:57,226 --> 00:25:59,058
With no positive role models,
555
00:25:59,094 --> 00:26:00,626
she fell deep into the street life
556
00:26:00,662 --> 00:26:04,830
of drugs, violence,
and ultimately murder.
557
00:26:04,865 --> 00:26:07,067
I was sitting on the steps round there,
558
00:26:07,102 --> 00:26:09,036
everybody like, "Fight, fight, fight!"
559
00:26:09,070 --> 00:26:11,471
So we used to run to a
fight. You know how it is...
560
00:26:11,506 --> 00:26:13,307
- Yeah, we all did that dumb shit.
- Yeah. Yeah.
561
00:26:13,342 --> 00:26:15,474
- So I runs around this corner...
- Uh-huh.
562
00:26:15,509 --> 00:26:16,910
... they fighting over here,
563
00:26:16,944 --> 00:26:21,580
I'm over here... like just watching
it, you know what I'm saying?
564
00:26:21,615 --> 00:26:24,483
Shorty comes out swinging.
565
00:26:24,519 --> 00:26:27,118
So I'm standing... remind
you, I'm standing right here,
566
00:26:27,154 --> 00:26:31,958
and she... swinging and
jump, so I say, "Yo! Ho, ho!"
567
00:26:31,992 --> 00:26:33,659
They say she hit me, I don't remember.
568
00:26:33,693 --> 00:26:35,594
You know what I mean? So I whips out.
569
00:26:35,628 --> 00:26:38,330
Like, "Yo, back!" She's seen it. Pop!
570
00:26:41,035 --> 00:26:43,868
Felicia's story is not uncommon.
571
00:26:43,903 --> 00:26:45,737
Many young kids who grow up surrounded
572
00:26:45,772 --> 00:26:49,607
by violence and poverty end
up making similar mistakes.
573
00:26:49,643 --> 00:26:52,911
I was feeling alone in this world.
574
00:26:52,946 --> 00:26:54,946
I didn't care about nothing,
575
00:26:54,981 --> 00:26:57,715
like absolutely nothing.
576
00:26:57,750 --> 00:27:01,619
I didn't care that...
if I die, I didn't care.
577
00:27:01,654 --> 00:27:03,689
- You was angry.
- Yeah, angry.
578
00:27:03,723 --> 00:27:07,125
Angry at the world. Angry at myself.
579
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,694
What Felicia learned is that
kids look for mentor figures
580
00:27:10,730 --> 00:27:13,464
who can actually relate
to where they come from.
581
00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:15,599
You basically told me
that pretty much everyone
582
00:27:15,634 --> 00:27:19,037
you ever had to look
up to in this community
583
00:27:19,072 --> 00:27:21,172
either were gangsters, did time.
584
00:27:21,208 --> 00:27:23,073
What effect did that
have on you, mentally?
585
00:27:23,108 --> 00:27:26,410
- It had a lot. I looked up to 'em, you know?
- Yeah.
586
00:27:26,444 --> 00:27:28,778
And I thought that was the right way.
587
00:27:28,815 --> 00:27:31,280
Our youth now most definitely
588
00:27:31,317 --> 00:27:35,419
need people, like big homies, mentors.
589
00:27:35,453 --> 00:27:38,655
Kids now, they look at you, and be like,
590
00:27:38,691 --> 00:27:40,789
"Well, if you've never been locked up,
591
00:27:40,826 --> 00:27:42,659
- how can you tell me anything?"
- Yeah.
592
00:27:42,693 --> 00:27:46,430
If you haven't been down this
road, you can't tell me shit.
593
00:27:47,598 --> 00:27:49,566
Using reformed offenders as mentors
594
00:27:49,601 --> 00:27:52,435
has actually proven to be
one of the most effective ways
595
00:27:52,471 --> 00:27:54,270
of reaching our at-risk youth
596
00:27:54,306 --> 00:27:57,007
as evidenced by an
innovative mentorship program
597
00:27:57,041 --> 00:28:00,777
in what was once one of
America's most dangerous places:
598
00:28:00,811 --> 00:28:02,412
Richmond, California.
599
00:28:02,446 --> 00:28:05,280
The CHP is working closely
with Richmond police
600
00:28:05,316 --> 00:28:07,750
after a rash of recent
highway shootings.
601
00:28:07,786 --> 00:28:09,818
Five bullets came from a white Mazda...
602
00:28:09,855 --> 00:28:12,188
A brother and sister
shot to death in Richmond.
603
00:28:12,222 --> 00:28:14,112
A man and woman were shot and killed
604
00:28:14,113 --> 00:28:15,357
in North Richmond last night.
605
00:28:15,393 --> 00:28:17,692
The violence in Richmond was so bad,
606
00:28:17,728 --> 00:28:20,328
the city decided to
do something radical:
607
00:28:20,365 --> 00:28:23,731
to reach out directly to
potential violent offenders.
608
00:28:23,768 --> 00:28:27,570
A controversial program
is actually paying people
609
00:28:27,572 --> 00:28:29,304
not to shoot each other.
610
00:28:29,338 --> 00:28:30,873
The Office of Neighborhood Safety
611
00:28:30,907 --> 00:28:34,710
is a government agency
with one single focus:
612
00:28:34,744 --> 00:28:39,080
reduce firearm assaults and
associated injury and/or death.
613
00:28:39,115 --> 00:28:40,749
How did you start to do that?
614
00:28:40,785 --> 00:28:43,551
In 2009, the city saw
615
00:28:43,587 --> 00:28:46,121
45 firearm-related homicides...
616
00:28:46,155 --> 00:28:50,459
... and more than 180
nonfatal shootings.
617
00:28:50,493 --> 00:28:55,863
And we determined that there were
actually 28 people responsible
618
00:28:55,898 --> 00:28:59,701
for 70 percent of that 2009 activity.
619
00:28:59,736 --> 00:29:01,569
That was an aha moment for me.
620
00:29:01,605 --> 00:29:03,403
We can wrap our arms around that.
621
00:29:03,439 --> 00:29:06,039
- Yeah.
- Like many cities, we were focused
622
00:29:06,076 --> 00:29:08,942
on what are known or called "hot spots,"
623
00:29:08,979 --> 00:29:11,377
"spots where things happen."
624
00:29:11,413 --> 00:29:13,213
- Mm-hmm.
- But I thought it'd be smarter
625
00:29:13,249 --> 00:29:16,718
to appreciate that hot spots
are hot because of hot people.
626
00:29:16,752 --> 00:29:19,819
So rather than focus on a location,
627
00:29:19,855 --> 00:29:23,056
focus on helping people.
628
00:29:23,092 --> 00:29:27,560
You've got to know who's
perpetrating that gunfire,
629
00:29:27,596 --> 00:29:31,265
and you've got to be
willing to partner with them.
630
00:29:31,299 --> 00:29:34,768
And so I asked the city
manager if he would allow me
631
00:29:34,802 --> 00:29:38,137
to create a classification
called Neighborhood Change Agent,
632
00:29:38,173 --> 00:29:42,709
someone who's not only been
incarcerated in his or her past,
633
00:29:42,744 --> 00:29:47,713
but someone who has a gun
charge in his or her past.
634
00:29:49,785 --> 00:29:52,352
Change agents recruit kids to enroll
635
00:29:52,386 --> 00:29:55,488
in an 18-month fellowship
where they are steered
636
00:29:55,523 --> 00:29:57,022
towards a better way of life.
637
00:29:57,057 --> 00:29:59,692
What made you want to be
a part of this program?
638
00:29:59,727 --> 00:30:01,319
Everything I did on the inside
639
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,928
was telling me I needed
to work with people.
640
00:30:02,963 --> 00:30:06,165
This is definitely something
I was meant to be a part of.
641
00:30:06,201 --> 00:30:09,401
Our job is to target those young men
642
00:30:09,435 --> 00:30:12,738
- who will solve their conflicts with guns.
- Mm-hmm.
643
00:30:12,773 --> 00:30:15,941
We in the streets every day,
we meet them in their hoods,
644
00:30:15,977 --> 00:30:18,778
and we engage them, we
try to build a relationship
645
00:30:18,813 --> 00:30:22,280
and hopefully show them
different ways to solve conflicts.
646
00:30:22,316 --> 00:30:23,582
You don't give up, huh?
647
00:30:23,616 --> 00:30:25,683
No, never give up.
Because you never know
648
00:30:25,719 --> 00:30:26,863
when that window's gonna open,
649
00:30:26,886 --> 00:30:30,288
and we want to be there to
come through when it does open.
650
00:30:31,424 --> 00:30:32,891
That window opened for James
651
00:30:32,925 --> 00:30:35,859
with a young, formerly
jailed youth named Deandre,
652
00:30:35,895 --> 00:30:37,796
who is now a member of the fellowship.
653
00:30:37,830 --> 00:30:39,631
- Deandre, Michael, man.
- Nice to meet you, man.
654
00:30:39,666 --> 00:30:42,010
- Same here, brother.
- Been making some tremendous strides
655
00:30:42,035 --> 00:30:44,480
- as far as doing something different in his life, man.
- That's what's up.
656
00:30:44,503 --> 00:30:46,115
- That's what's up, brother.
- I'm real proud of him.
657
00:30:46,138 --> 00:30:49,574
I noticed there's some, um,
artwork on your garage walls there.
658
00:30:49,608 --> 00:30:52,711
- What happened?
- I mean we was out, sitting in front,
659
00:30:52,746 --> 00:30:55,747
then somebody came up, started
shooting from right there.
660
00:30:55,781 --> 00:30:57,515
Thought we was somebody, but we wasn't.
661
00:30:57,549 --> 00:30:59,950
That's just life in Richmond.
It can happen just that quick.
662
00:30:59,984 --> 00:31:02,319
That quick. I got the
bullets right here.
663
00:31:02,355 --> 00:31:05,122
- Crazy.
- Got one in the mailbox there too.
664
00:31:05,156 --> 00:31:06,890
You gotta be kidding me, bro.
665
00:31:06,925 --> 00:31:09,070
What was the first thing
that you clicked in your head
666
00:31:09,095 --> 00:31:11,561
when you said, "I want a
relationship with these brothers?"
667
00:31:11,597 --> 00:31:14,463
What really got to me was I standing
outside one day on the corner,
668
00:31:14,499 --> 00:31:16,834
and James ride up and asked me like,
669
00:31:16,868 --> 00:31:18,667
"What are you doing with yourself?"
670
00:31:18,703 --> 00:31:20,436
And I really thought about it, like,
671
00:31:20,471 --> 00:31:22,072
"He right. What am I doing with myself?"
672
00:31:22,107 --> 00:31:24,473
And with Deandre, he reminded me of me,
673
00:31:24,509 --> 00:31:26,809
so I stayed on him. I still stay on him.
674
00:31:26,846 --> 00:31:30,313
We here. We're gonna be
here... for the long haul.
675
00:31:31,616 --> 00:31:34,750
Once the fellows >respond to
the program for six months,
676
00:31:34,786 --> 00:31:36,919
they help them form a "life map,
677
00:31:36,954 --> 00:31:38,622
and they start to get paid.
678
00:31:38,656 --> 00:31:41,557
Why not incentivize a life map?
679
00:31:41,593 --> 00:31:45,362
After six months of positive,
healthy participation levels,
680
00:31:45,396 --> 00:31:49,597
they become eligible to
earn up to $1,000 a month
681
00:31:49,634 --> 00:31:54,536
for nine of the remaining
12 months of the fellowship.
682
00:31:54,571 --> 00:31:58,141
So we're talking about up to $9,000
683
00:31:58,175 --> 00:32:00,409
over an 18-month period.
684
00:32:00,443 --> 00:32:04,179
Do you know the cost to
incarcerate a violent youth offender
685
00:32:04,213 --> 00:32:06,815
- in the state of California per year?
- How much?
686
00:32:06,849 --> 00:32:09,617
Over $200,000 a year,
687
00:32:09,653 --> 00:32:11,753
- per inmate.
- Per inmate.
688
00:32:11,788 --> 00:32:15,089
Average stay, three to
five years. You do the math.
689
00:32:15,125 --> 00:32:19,994
And with an annual
budget of only $980,000,
690
00:32:20,029 --> 00:32:23,330
ONS has helped drive
the annual homicides
691
00:32:23,365 --> 00:32:26,701
in Richmond down by 70
percent since it started.
692
00:32:26,736 --> 00:32:29,703
This success has opened up a pathway
693
00:32:29,739 --> 00:32:31,338
for the young men in the program
694
00:32:31,374 --> 00:32:33,141
to pursue gainful employment.
695
00:32:33,176 --> 00:32:34,541
- Thank you.
- You're welcome.
696
00:32:36,279 --> 00:32:39,078
- Now I need a belt.
- Yeah, you do,
697
00:32:39,115 --> 00:32:41,080
- to keep your pants up.
- Hold your pants up,
698
00:32:41,116 --> 00:32:44,551
you can hold your life together.
699
00:32:44,586 --> 00:32:45,829
All right, so you're good,
700
00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:48,087
now you got to put that
in, online, everywhere.
701
00:32:48,124 --> 00:32:50,791
What won't you do? If
they called you right now
702
00:32:50,826 --> 00:32:52,926
and they wanted you to clean windows...
703
00:32:52,961 --> 00:32:53,961
I'm cleaning windows.
704
00:32:53,996 --> 00:32:54,996
Would you clean the toilet?
705
00:32:54,997 --> 00:32:56,208
- Yeah, of course, I'll clean the toilet.
- Okay.
706
00:32:56,231 --> 00:32:59,499
I'm at a point right now
where I don't have a choice.
707
00:32:59,535 --> 00:33:02,102
But you did have a choice.
708
00:33:02,137 --> 00:33:05,205
You just gave up a
job, that was a choice.
709
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,707
Why would you do that?
710
00:33:06,741 --> 00:33:08,586
- That just boggles my mind.
- Dude, I was in the freezer.
711
00:33:08,609 --> 00:33:10,443
- I can't work in no freezer.
- So, there we go.
712
00:33:10,479 --> 00:33:13,480
Now we found out what won't
you do. You won't be cold.
713
00:33:13,515 --> 00:33:16,817
You do know that homeless
people be hella cold, right?
714
00:33:16,852 --> 00:33:19,519
- Yeah.
- You do know if you don't get a job soon,
715
00:33:19,555 --> 00:33:21,954
- you gonna be homeless?
- Yeah.
716
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:23,856
What if it's an oven? Can you be at 130?
717
00:33:23,892 --> 00:33:27,259
- I can be hot.
- Okay. We a tropical people anyways, right?
718
00:33:28,930 --> 00:33:32,664
If the man does not
work, he does not eat.
719
00:33:32,700 --> 00:33:34,901
I don't care if you cold,
you can't quit no job
720
00:33:34,935 --> 00:33:36,646
- until you got another one to go to, bro.
- True.
721
00:33:36,671 --> 00:33:39,105
Like, that's just a rule of thumb.
722
00:33:40,875 --> 00:33:42,355
Step in the right direction, brother.
723
00:33:43,943 --> 00:33:45,722
Proud of you, man. It's
good to see you, brother.
724
00:33:45,747 --> 00:33:47,311
It's good to see you too.
725
00:33:48,583 --> 00:33:50,348
You got a support system in here.
726
00:33:50,384 --> 00:33:53,786
It make me feel good, because I
never had that type of support before.
727
00:33:53,820 --> 00:33:55,152
- Yeah?
- Yeah.
728
00:33:55,188 --> 00:33:57,356
I wish I had this when I was coming up.
729
00:33:57,391 --> 00:34:00,625
- I'm glad I had it.
- I love you say that.
730
00:34:02,396 --> 00:34:04,396
Programs like the one in Richmond
731
00:34:04,431 --> 00:34:06,764
help ex-offenders get
back up on their feet,
732
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,867
because when you don't have help,
733
00:34:08,902 --> 00:34:10,668
prospects can look very grim.
734
00:34:10,704 --> 00:34:13,070
My cousin Niven and I grew up together
735
00:34:13,106 --> 00:34:15,672
in the Vanderveer projects
in East Flatbush, Brooklyn.
736
00:34:15,708 --> 00:34:18,141
Niven was incarcerated
for second-degree murder
737
00:34:18,177 --> 00:34:21,880
for a crime he committed
when he was 14 years old.
738
00:34:21,914 --> 00:34:25,215
Isn't it odd after all you've been
through, all I've been through,
739
00:34:25,251 --> 00:34:26,496
we could still, at the end of the day,
740
00:34:26,519 --> 00:34:28,585
come back to this little projects' roof.
741
00:34:28,621 --> 00:34:30,487
We experienced it all in here.
742
00:34:30,523 --> 00:34:33,724
Damn. Yeah, I stood
right there watching 9/11.
743
00:34:33,759 --> 00:34:35,425
That was crazy. You know where I was?
744
00:34:35,460 --> 00:34:38,028
- Where?
- I was in solitary confinement.
745
00:34:38,063 --> 00:34:42,532
I was in the box for like 18
months. That's why I never forget it.
746
00:34:44,938 --> 00:34:46,903
Niven did a portion of his time
747
00:34:46,940 --> 00:34:48,472
and was released on probation.
748
00:34:48,507 --> 00:34:50,974
The problem was he had
no skills or support.
749
00:34:51,009 --> 00:34:52,900
And to make matters worse,
750
00:34:52,900 --> 00:34:55,376
because of where his
felony conviction happened,
751
00:34:55,413 --> 00:34:58,012
by law he was not
allowed to return home.
752
00:34:58,048 --> 00:35:01,083
So he ended up in the
last place he wanted to be.
753
00:35:01,117 --> 00:35:04,753
This is where they dropped
me off when I came out, man.
754
00:35:04,789 --> 00:35:06,155
This was my first stop.
755
00:35:06,190 --> 00:35:08,891
I heard about it the
day before I came home.
756
00:35:08,927 --> 00:35:11,492
Guys was telling me, "They
sending you to the Armory?"
757
00:35:11,527 --> 00:35:13,061
They said, "Yo, it's crazy in there.
758
00:35:13,097 --> 00:35:15,264
That shit looked worse than Attica."
759
00:35:15,298 --> 00:35:18,199
Why would the system make
you live in the shelter?
760
00:35:18,235 --> 00:35:20,101
I don't understand the
science behind that.
761
00:35:20,137 --> 00:35:22,103
You do a crime in your neighborhood,
762
00:35:22,139 --> 00:35:23,605
you banned from that neighborhood,
763
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:25,407
and that might be where
all your family at.
764
00:35:25,443 --> 00:35:27,019
In your case, that's
exactly what happened.
765
00:35:27,043 --> 00:35:29,744
You went in, you did
your first straight 13,
766
00:35:29,780 --> 00:35:32,280
you came home, so what happened?
767
00:35:34,050 --> 00:35:37,385
I end up dipping in and out of
the projects in the neighborhood,
768
00:35:37,420 --> 00:35:39,788
messing with some of my mans and them,
769
00:35:39,822 --> 00:35:41,099
because I had nothing else to do.
770
00:35:41,123 --> 00:35:42,791
I let the streets take me.
771
00:35:42,826 --> 00:35:45,793
I end up getting
rearrested for a drug case.
772
00:35:45,827 --> 00:35:47,184
Long story short,
773
00:35:47,186 --> 00:35:51,532
I ended getting 11 more years
because of my prior record.
774
00:35:51,567 --> 00:35:55,268
Once you have that felony stamp,
775
00:35:55,304 --> 00:35:56,836
you got the big "X" on your chest,
776
00:35:56,873 --> 00:35:59,072
you barely get a job,
777
00:35:59,108 --> 00:36:01,509
the jobs that you get
is way below standard,
778
00:36:01,543 --> 00:36:03,443
you can't live off
them, you can't survive,
779
00:36:03,478 --> 00:36:05,411
but I'm living check to check, man.
780
00:36:06,548 --> 00:36:08,748
After nearly a lifetime in the system,
781
00:36:08,784 --> 00:36:11,117
Niven was able to find
work as a custodian.
782
00:36:11,152 --> 00:36:14,387
For many former offenders,
they simply can't find work,
783
00:36:14,422 --> 00:36:18,324
so they go right back to the
streets, what they know best.
784
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,559
Back in Richmond, they know this,
785
00:36:20,594 --> 00:36:22,528
so even after the fellowship ends,
786
00:36:22,563 --> 00:36:26,199
change agents continue to help
members navigate through life.
787
00:36:26,235 --> 00:36:29,001
So he applied for a
government security clearance
788
00:36:29,038 --> 00:36:33,572
to be able to get on
to refineries or ports.
789
00:36:33,608 --> 00:36:36,074
It's easier to talk to
somebody who been through
790
00:36:36,110 --> 00:36:37,844
some of the stuff that
you've been through.
791
00:36:37,878 --> 00:36:39,778
If it wasn't for them, I highly doubt
792
00:36:39,813 --> 00:36:41,280
I'd be here right now.
793
00:36:41,315 --> 00:36:43,016
I was involved heavily with the streets,
794
00:36:43,050 --> 00:36:44,717
back and forth to jail,
795
00:36:44,753 --> 00:36:48,353
just having somebody in your
corner who won't let you slip.
796
00:36:48,389 --> 00:36:51,423
I'm going to go through the
whole thing to make sure.
797
00:36:51,458 --> 00:36:54,460
Here, take... You can't
fax a staple though.
798
00:36:54,494 --> 00:36:56,306
He's just always there when I need him.
799
00:36:56,329 --> 00:36:57,929
I mean, he only a phone call away.
800
00:36:57,965 --> 00:37:01,166
He has a daughter. I just
recently had a daughter.
801
00:37:03,036 --> 00:37:06,172
The hope is >that programs
like this can create a path,
802
00:37:06,206 --> 00:37:09,206
not just for this
generation but for the next.
803
00:37:09,242 --> 00:37:11,788
These young people aren't growing
up, thinking about what college
804
00:37:11,811 --> 00:37:13,757
they're going to go to when
they're in the second grade.
805
00:37:13,780 --> 00:37:16,313
They don't even see a benefit
of graduating high school.
806
00:37:16,349 --> 00:37:19,083
I don't know what a doctor
needs to do to become a doctor,
807
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:20,829
because there ain't no
doctor living in my community.
808
00:37:20,853 --> 00:37:22,789
I don't know how to become a lawyer,
809
00:37:22,791 --> 00:37:24,989
'cause there is not a lawyer
living in my community.
810
00:37:25,023 --> 00:37:27,458
I know how to be a gangster,
I know how to sell dope,
811
00:37:27,494 --> 00:37:30,195
I know how to pull that pistol,
because that's what I see every day.
812
00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:33,630
The epitome of success
is I got out the hood.
813
00:37:33,666 --> 00:37:37,268
You ain't gonna leave no bread
crumbs for somebody else to follow?
814
00:37:37,304 --> 00:37:40,369
Creating the path right now is vital,
815
00:37:40,405 --> 00:37:43,206
because a quarter of
African-American children...
816
00:37:43,242 --> 00:37:46,476
- Say hi.
- ... will have a parent incarcerated at some point,
817
00:37:46,512 --> 00:37:49,579
raising the risk of them
entering the system themselves.
818
00:37:49,615 --> 00:37:52,949
Having a kid really
just brought me to life.
819
00:37:52,985 --> 00:37:54,952
Before that... before I
had her, I was just like,
820
00:37:54,987 --> 00:37:56,530
basically, I ain't got
nothing to live for.
821
00:37:56,554 --> 00:37:59,123
I might as well just stay
in the streets. You feel me?
822
00:37:59,157 --> 00:38:02,326
Many of the young men we met
were already young fathers
823
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,762
and in jeopardy of perpetuating
the cycle all over again.
824
00:38:05,797 --> 00:38:08,197
Uh, how old is your son now?
825
00:38:08,233 --> 00:38:10,166
- Nine months.
- Okay.
826
00:38:10,202 --> 00:38:14,436
You have a child that you want to
participate in the child's life,
827
00:38:14,472 --> 00:38:17,606
but right now, the child
has to be safe all the time.
828
00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:27,282
Okay.
829
00:38:28,485 --> 00:38:29,952
Man, I gotta...
830
00:38:32,989 --> 00:38:34,056
Yes.
831
00:38:36,126 --> 00:38:37,159
Mm-hmm.
832
00:38:45,603 --> 00:38:47,135
But we can help stop the cycle
833
00:38:47,170 --> 00:38:50,237
of kids entering the
system before it starts.
834
00:38:59,750 --> 00:39:01,083
You're welcome.
835
00:39:02,318 --> 00:39:07,021
- Good afternoon.
- Good afternoon, Dr. Muhammad.
836
00:39:07,056 --> 00:39:08,289
I teach at the university,
837
00:39:08,324 --> 00:39:10,925
but I do a lot, a lot
of work in the community.
838
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,760
I started off doing interviews
839
00:39:12,795 --> 00:39:16,063
with kids your age who had
parents who were in prison.
840
00:39:16,099 --> 00:39:18,800
The conversation that we're
gonna start talking about today
841
00:39:18,835 --> 00:39:20,134
is gonna get kind of deep,
842
00:39:20,170 --> 00:39:23,137
and I want you guys to really kind
of know that I'm here with you.
843
00:39:23,172 --> 00:39:24,771
By a show of hands,
844
00:39:24,807 --> 00:39:26,574
are there any kids in the classroom
845
00:39:26,608 --> 00:39:29,309
who have anyone in their community
846
00:39:29,344 --> 00:39:32,612
that spent time in prison or in jail?
847
00:39:34,918 --> 00:39:37,717
Are there any individuals
in the class today
848
00:39:37,753 --> 00:39:41,688
who experienced
incarceration in their family?
849
00:39:43,826 --> 00:39:47,159
Last question. Are there
individuals in this class
850
00:39:47,195 --> 00:39:50,163
who are children of
incarcerated parents?
851
00:39:54,836 --> 00:39:57,103
When you start talking
about these sort of things,
852
00:39:57,139 --> 00:39:59,271
it's kind of heavy, you
don't know where to start,
853
00:39:59,306 --> 00:40:01,842
so that's where you
get The Prison Alphabet,
854
00:40:01,876 --> 00:40:04,710
the coloring book that we're
going to talk about today.
855
00:40:06,380 --> 00:40:09,382
Why not target the children
of the incarcerated parents
856
00:40:09,416 --> 00:40:12,452
early on, engaging them, and
meeting them where they are
857
00:40:12,487 --> 00:40:15,487
and letting them know
it's okay to talk about it?
858
00:40:15,523 --> 00:40:17,123
Because we're not talking about it,
859
00:40:17,157 --> 00:40:20,460
- it turns into this large snowball.
- The elephant in the room.
860
00:40:20,494 --> 00:40:21,860
- Yeah. Yeah.
- That kind of thing.
861
00:40:25,331 --> 00:40:29,300
You ever see anybody get
arrested that you know?
862
00:40:29,335 --> 00:40:35,039
They actually took my father and my
uncle, right there in front of me.
863
00:40:35,076 --> 00:40:36,817
Now that I'm actually thinking about it
864
00:40:36,818 --> 00:40:39,778
and I'm talking to someone about it,
865
00:40:39,813 --> 00:40:42,514
it hurts, it hurts a lot.
866
00:40:42,548 --> 00:40:44,181
And you know that's okay, right?
867
00:40:44,217 --> 00:40:45,916
It's okay to say you hurt.
868
00:40:47,387 --> 00:40:48,452
It's okay.
869
00:41:20,686 --> 00:41:21,885
Drama, right?
870
00:41:46,411 --> 00:41:50,179
Oh, the phones. Why'd
you pick the phones?
871
00:41:52,451 --> 00:41:55,452
You have family members inside?
872
00:41:55,487 --> 00:41:56,820
Who you got?
873
00:41:59,190 --> 00:42:01,123
Do you miss him?
874
00:42:06,297 --> 00:42:07,829
Is your daddy alive?
875
00:42:10,335 --> 00:42:11,467
What happened?
876
00:42:36,893 --> 00:42:37,958
Yeah.
877
00:42:47,804 --> 00:42:52,139
That's a pretty, pretty big
statement you made there, Michael.
878
00:42:53,576 --> 00:42:55,876
I think you could do it, though.
879
00:42:57,947 --> 00:43:00,347
What do you want to be when you grow up?
880
00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:17,030
Everything's gonna be all right
881
00:43:17,065 --> 00:43:20,233
as long as you keep your head focused
882
00:43:20,268 --> 00:43:22,702
on wanting to be the one
883
00:43:22,737 --> 00:43:25,072
that breaks the mold in your family,
884
00:43:25,106 --> 00:43:29,242
that changes the pattern
of the way things happen.
885
00:43:33,748 --> 00:43:35,114
All right, man.
886
00:43:38,786 --> 00:43:40,887
- Did you hear him?
- Yeah.
887
00:43:41,889 --> 00:43:45,057
That's really fucked up.
888
00:43:47,394 --> 00:43:51,797
This young man knew to
take his pain and his past
889
00:43:51,833 --> 00:43:55,867
and use it to be a blessing
in someone else's life.
890
00:44:02,175 --> 00:44:06,311
I'm sorry. Yeah. Um... I can't.
891
00:44:07,782 --> 00:44:09,547
So, I want to call up to the front
892
00:44:09,583 --> 00:44:12,217
some of the individuals
who I did not hear from.
893
00:44:12,251 --> 00:44:15,554
See, the entire thing that
this conversation was about
894
00:44:15,590 --> 00:44:18,056
was really digging in from your heart,
895
00:44:18,092 --> 00:44:19,724
and now it's onto papers,
896
00:44:19,759 --> 00:44:21,759
and then we start to share.
897
00:44:21,795 --> 00:44:24,596
So we're gonna start with you.
898
00:44:29,802 --> 00:44:32,570
Incarceration had a
horrible effect for me
899
00:44:32,606 --> 00:44:34,038
when my mom got locked up.
900
00:44:34,072 --> 00:44:36,206
It put me into a bad place.
901
00:44:36,242 --> 00:44:38,909
One, it broke me,
because she was my have,
902
00:44:38,945 --> 00:44:40,612
and I just broke down.
903
00:44:40,646 --> 00:44:44,516
Two, it left me with my
dad, who beat me until...
904
00:44:44,550 --> 00:44:49,052
who beat me until my
skin was black and blue.
905
00:44:49,088 --> 00:44:50,686
I told my mother and my father
906
00:44:50,722 --> 00:44:53,824
I felt bad that they didn't show love,
907
00:44:53,858 --> 00:44:56,791
and they both apologized to each other.
908
00:45:02,534 --> 00:45:05,335
I'm going to share what
I heard from that story,
909
00:45:05,369 --> 00:45:08,405
and that's the ability
to maintain bonds.
910
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,074
We don't dictate who
our parents are gonna be,
911
00:45:12,108 --> 00:45:15,077
how they treat us, but we do dictate
912
00:45:15,112 --> 00:45:18,246
what we think about the
hand that we've been dealt.
913
00:45:18,282 --> 00:45:19,849
And what I'm hearing today is,
914
00:45:19,884 --> 00:45:24,987
that's a hand and a breath
of forgiveness, of strength.
915
00:45:25,023 --> 00:45:27,389
That's the good things about stories:
916
00:45:27,425 --> 00:45:30,525
You don't have to go in and erase
anything that's ever happened
917
00:45:30,561 --> 00:45:33,195
or add anything in.
You just have to own it.
918
00:45:33,230 --> 00:45:36,831
And the thing that you want to do
with it is not make it a crutch,
919
00:45:36,867 --> 00:45:40,202
so you don't want to be, "Oh, my mom
was locked up, that's why I fight.
920
00:45:40,237 --> 00:45:43,003
My dad was in a gang, that's
why I don't listen to teachers."
921
00:45:43,039 --> 00:45:45,974
That's lame! At the end of the day,
922
00:45:46,009 --> 00:45:47,775
you want to own your story,
923
00:45:47,811 --> 00:45:51,746
so that you can throw that crutch,
and now you're just walking.
924
00:45:51,782 --> 00:45:56,550
What made you feel safe to
open up to Dr. Muhammad and me?
925
00:46:13,536 --> 00:46:16,536
I saw a lot of things while
making this documentary.
926
00:46:16,572 --> 00:46:19,539
The loss of innocence in
America broke my heart.
927
00:46:19,574 --> 00:46:23,443
And just like the mantra that
my nephew Dominic lives by,
928
00:46:23,478 --> 00:46:27,648
"A setback is just a
setup for a comeback."
929
00:46:33,422 --> 00:46:36,255
After more than 20
years of pristine records
930
00:46:36,291 --> 00:46:38,592
- and giving back behind bars...
- Come here, bud.
931
00:46:38,626 --> 00:46:40,760
... my nephew Dominic
was granted clemency
932
00:46:40,795 --> 00:46:42,695
for the remainder of his sentence.
933
00:46:44,465 --> 00:46:46,532
All right, thank... thank you.
934
00:46:48,302 --> 00:46:51,036
- It's beautiful, man.
- Yeah.
935
00:46:51,072 --> 00:46:53,472
I'm ready. This is what
I've been preparing for
936
00:46:53,507 --> 00:46:55,440
for 20 years, seven months, 18 days.
937
00:46:55,476 --> 00:46:57,976
I'm ready to go. I'm
ready to make an impact
938
00:46:58,012 --> 00:47:01,480
in the community in a
very, very positive way.
939
00:47:01,516 --> 00:47:03,382
I stand there with you, bro.
940
00:47:06,219 --> 00:47:08,197
But the main thing I've
learned on this journey
941
00:47:08,222 --> 00:47:11,121
is that yes, our young people
942
00:47:11,121 --> 00:47:13,324
should be held accountable
for their choices.
943
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,827
But until we find other ways
of dealing with our children
944
00:47:16,864 --> 00:47:18,496
besides locking 'em up,
945
00:47:18,532 --> 00:47:22,168
another generation will
be doomed to the same fate.
946
00:47:24,938 --> 00:47:28,840
Every single kid will mess
up. It's called adolescence.
947
00:47:28,876 --> 00:47:31,242
But if we can reach them
before they're put in a cage...
948
00:47:32,445 --> 00:47:34,880
... if our courts can
rehabilitate and coach them
949
00:47:34,914 --> 00:47:36,981
before they get too deep in the game,
950
00:47:37,016 --> 00:47:39,250
and if we can show the at-risk youth
951
00:47:39,286 --> 00:47:41,052
that there's a different way,
952
00:47:41,086 --> 00:47:43,920
then maybe we can stop this cycle.
953
00:47:43,956 --> 00:47:47,023
We've been loving on youngsters
that ain't never seen love before.
954
00:47:47,059 --> 00:47:49,427
We're showing young
people that they matter,
955
00:47:49,461 --> 00:47:50,827
that they're important,
956
00:47:50,862 --> 00:47:53,030
that we need them to
have a brighter future.
957
00:47:53,065 --> 00:47:56,266
We're helping these young
folks understand and believe
958
00:47:56,302 --> 00:47:59,969
that they count and they have
something to contribute to society.
959
00:48:00,005 --> 00:48:02,039
The programs we saw for now
960
00:48:02,074 --> 00:48:04,742
are just a glimmer of
hope and not the standard,
961
00:48:04,777 --> 00:48:08,244
but they show us that we have a chance
962
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,614
of preserving our future.
963
00:48:10,648 --> 00:48:11,648
Hey.
964
00:48:16,887 --> 00:48:19,489
Stay up. You all right,
bro? All right, Mike.
965
00:48:26,297 --> 00:48:31,297
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