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Tonight, part two of the jaw -dropping Real Housewives of Salt Lake City

reunion. Lisa, were you surprised Mary took your side? Lisa is all about Lisa.

She probably doesn't even know what you're talking about.

She doesn't look like she does.

Did you not read Heather's book?

No.

I think what's really important here is discussing why I have such a fractured

relationship with Brittany.

If you think we're protecting Brittany, we're protecting you.

Any comments about the cult rumor resurfacing about your church?

I don't understand this.

Yeah, she's the victim here. It's not okay.

I need to go. Fuck this.

She won't stop talking, so I can't go there. She screeched at me for two

Screeched at you for two months? Fuck you.

Our friendship is over from this moment on.

Buckle up, Meredith. It's not going to be a fun ride.

Part two of the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City reunion starts now.

Angie, you've known Lisa for a long time. What do you think?

Well, see, I brought a little Samaritan's girl.

This gorgeous girl.

Oh, my God. For my anniversary. Oh, my God, that's very pretty. Isn't that

pretty? This is the presentation, but you asked.

I have known Lisa, and...

I thought she was my friend.

And then I found out she was trolling me.

She says she's not the source.

Mm -hmm.

But if you open that, you can just pass it down, and you open your phone, the

person trolling me has the same phone number that Lisa has. Good. I'm so glad

we're doing this. Go ahead.

I'm so glad we're doing this. Okay. Oh. I mean, that's how I feel. And that's

why I have. This is a private account saying I liked Angie until I saw her

-flop. That is not me.

That is 100 % not me. What I'm looking at is an account from someone that is

posting. It's not my phone number. That's the one comment that could fit on

there. That is posting.

Comments that are negative about you. You're saying this is attached to Lisa's

number. Yeah.

That number is your number?

But that's not how you look it up. Was the number that I just read your number?

Yeah, but it's not connected to me. They just put in my phone number and did

this. Whitney Rose did this. They don't know how to look it up. That's not

attached to that account. They're lying.

You're lying. I'm not lying.

You're lying.

It's a joke, Andy.

It's a prop flop. You did it. You did it. You did it. Okay, Bezos. He who

the scroll gets to talk. Okay. And I'm holding it.

And what you're saying this proves is, so this link was sent to this number,

which is Lisa's number. I put in the handle, forgot password. It said link to

password sent to the number. Which is Lisa Barlow's cell number. Is that

correct? Yes, it's not. Okay. I watched this account for two years, and it was

defending Lisa everywhere and shitting on everybody.

And when she was mad at me, I... started to see it saying things about me,

trying to put a narrative about me. And then it was Electra's birthday. And it

was before I had like a ton of followers so I could see, watch my stories. So

Candace watches my stories. And then two minutes later, Lisa's like, happy

birthday to Electra. Lisa never looked at my posts, but Candace did. I would

like you to explain yourself.

Why is it not you? It's not me because that's not my phone number attached to

the account. They put the phone number in and then said reset password or

whatever. No, that's. That's not what we did. My phone number is not attached to

that. That is not my account. You changed after I told you about it. No, I

not. You're crazy. You're crazy. No, I'm not. You're fucking crazy.

No, you're crazy.

You're crazy. You're crazy.

You're fucking crazy. You are crazy. And everyone here knows it. And Meredith

knows it. By the way, as I told you, it's not me. It's not my phone number.

We've all accepted it. No, it's not me.

I'm not going. Why is your phone number attached to it?

Okay. It is not.

Me. You're acting like you're above it. You're not.

About the egregious stuff.

Okay, okay, okay, okay. I am not Candace Torrey. It is not me. And I never, ever

did that. You knew about me, about Angie, about Meredith. You're making

This is not another receipt. Why did you have that account? Tie my screenshots.

You're not going to get that because it's not here.

I am. It's not me. And it's a joke. Okay, I'm moving forward. It's not me. I

showed you the stuff. It was you and I moved on. It's not me. It's not me. And

I'm going to show you it's not me. It's okay. And you're going to owe me an

apology. You owe us an apology because we've saved your friend and we've all

moved on from it. We've known about it for years. So you owe us an apology. You

just said that with your phone number. You have to treat me like shit. Moving

on. Exhausting.

Moving on. I would not accuse you if I didn't know it too much. I know she did

it. Stop, you guys.

You know it. Stop. I don't know what I know, though. Stop.

I've moved on. I'm not even looking at you right now.

Don't look at me.

You can hear me.

You know what? I know you did it. You had to do that.

I'm out. No, Andy, please.

I'm out.

I can't.

No,

Andy. Andy's walking off. Okay. Sorry, Andy. I'm walking off. This is nuts.

is nuts.

Andy, please come back.

I mean, you guys.

Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I'm sorry.

We're sorry.

We're sorry, Daddy Andy.

It's not funny.

No, I'm not saying it's not funny.

This is nonsense.

We're so sorry. It's all a joke.

Okay, everybody. Thank you for coming back. No, it's all a joke. Thank you,

Mary. No, they won't because they want to believe it.

Okay,

I'm moving forward.

Heather, on Watch What Happens Live, you said you have the receipts -proof

screenshots of Lisa leaking information.

Was that what?

That is absolutely part of it. The other part was the Kahneman fraud part of it

all. Do you want to talk about what you said on the Red Rocks and the pictures

you have on your phone?

What? Rolling Thunder? You want to go there?

That's a fact. As anyone on the couch knows who Rolling Thunder is, Meredith

explain it. Or you can ask Lisa, too.

They're alluding to a photograph of me with someone that I dated when Seth and

were separated. They're trying to make this into... I'm not.

She's the one that brought it up, not me.

I don't care. It looks bad for them. Why is that such a big bomb to drop on the

road? Because why do you still have the photos on your phone if you're her

friend? You said you do.

So what's the big deal? Meredith just said she and Seth were dating other

when they were split up. I didn't go there. It was passed around to the

group. It's like the dumbest thing. Keep going. It's a bad look for other

people, not for me. All right. Let's hold here. We will pick up after the

Okay, and that is lunch, ladies.

Oh, cool. Yay.

Is that a sweet

potato? Yeah, it's so good.

So good.

Right out of the gate, Meredith just sat there on the couch. Says not a word on

Lisa's defense.

I know. I'll just sit here and hopefully you'll eventually get it. Like,

Meredith says nothing on Lisa's defense.

Lisa is being really strange today.

She's being very, she's being mean. I mean, which that part doesn't surprise

It's more that she's just, I think she's like almost trying to stay calm.

She's trying to keep herself quiet. And she keeps saying that we are speaking

over her when she's notorious for speaking over people. So it's almost

like got herself a little like, that's how I'm going to handle today. And I'm

sticking to it no matter what.

What do you think so far?

I think you're doing great. I think you're holding your own. Like which

No, I don't know. Nothing specific. Just, you know.

We're going to have to talk about the airplane ride.

I think that, you know, we just have to be prepared to back each other because

we both know the truth.

You can't argue with the facts. And their math doesn't math ours does.

Why do you think they're so obsessed with us? It's weird and creepy.

It's like the most fraudulent shit I've ever seen in my life.

Well, we'll give clarity and levity to a lot of situations.

Oh,

look

at the Greek food. That's so fun.

Is the cheese real?

I think everything is.

I can't tell if it's real or plastic.

It's probably spray.

Three, two, one. It's my cue. Go, Andy. Welcome back to the Real Housewives of

Salt Lake City reunion.

Well, after a two -year renovation, we saw the triumphant grand reopening of

Mary's Faith Temple Pentecostal Church this season. But it turns out Mary's

preaching the good word to her beloved son, Robert Jr., and her flock of

troubled housewife disciples all along, proving that the N in Mary M. Cosby

stands for mediator. Watch.

Here we are.

Yes, ma 'am. I'm going to walk into a new place.

It's been a long time.

I know. I'm trying to think how long it's been.

It's been two years.

I feel like I came into the world

to be a messenger.

A messenger for God.

Meredith and Heather Gay, are you guys okay?

You... She probably should talk.

If there is a problem, I like to come to a resolution and get over it and move

on. You're an adult. You're a full -blown mom. You're a businesswoman.

Lead with positivity. Show them the light. Lead the way. You get so angry

you can't even focus and you don't even hear people. We're in a sisterhood and I

can't even get you to calm down?

You care how you're projected?

You know, you have an image.

But I also think it's important to take accountability.

What are we doing? Why are we here if we're not friends?

We're all big, grown adults.

We should act like it. We're mothers. We're wives.

We're leaders. We're bosses.

King Thelomere?

Mm -hmm.

Robert Jr. got in the car.

Yeah. And I looked at him.

He was high.

And I was like, no, no, no, no, no.

Oh, God.

It's important for me to protect him.

Yeah.

We're still taking it day at a time. Yeah.

And some good days and some days not so good.

Today was a day that wasn't so good.

Oh.

I'm not in that dark place, but, like, it's still there.

I'm just getting that stimuli from unhealthy sources.

Like what sources?

Drugs.

Did you smoke today?

Yeah, I smoked.

God, in the name of Jesus, Lord, bless their hearts.

Help us be one more.

Help us forgive.

Love every one of them.

All right.

Mary, I loved hearing you preach.

Thank you, Andy.

That made me cry. Sorry.

What got you?

Just my son.

He's incarcerated currently?

Yes. Why?

He went over to his wife, ex -wife. She filed for divorce house.

And they filed a restraining order against him. And he went back anyway,

thinking that she wants him to come back and save her. I don't know where he's

getting that from.

Delusional. And then every time he'd go back over there, they would call the

police and they'd arrest him. And this time they tased him.

Oh, wow.

But I'm happy.

I'm in a good place. I'm not worried about him.

I know he's somewhere where he's not using.

At some point, I have to step back so that he can learn and he can make his

decision. And unfortunately, he's learning the hard way.

But I'm okay with it. It's just, you

know, you don't want to see your kid suffer. But I know it's good,

and I'd rather him be there than dead, you know.

He was booked into Salt Lake City Metro Jail until February 2026 when a judge

will determine the length of his remaining sentence.

Are you in contact with him in jail? Do you go see him? No, I can't go to jail,

Andy. That's a little weird.

You don't want to see him that way? No, I don't. I don't want to look at my

child behind a glass. And what are your conversations like?

He calls me every day.

I'm basically preaching to him. I'm like, you're going through this, but you

have to realize that God is allowing it. And if God allowed it, then it's for

your good.

This will help you to change, and you've got to change.

Is it your hope that he'll be scared straight?

Yes, of course.

Of course. I hope that this all is for his good. And I feel like it's designed

to, you know, I feel like even like when I got kicked out.

You know, I was like, where am I going to go?

And my mom was like, I don't know where you're going, but you're not living

here. She kicked you out? Yeah.

Why? I wasn't obeying the rules. I was one of those childs. I had my own mind.

How old were you?

18.

18? Yeah.

So where is Robert Sr.

in all of this? Does he go visit Robert Jr.? He hasn't yet, but Robert talked to

him the other day, and he asked him to bring him books.

He was like, give me books.

So Robert Sr. is sending him a lot of books. Maybe I should send him yours.

He just wants to read.

There's a chapter in it about you. He'll love it. Really? Okay.

Did you not read Heather's book?

No.

There's a chapter about you. It is? Yeah.

Oh.

I was so sorry to hear about your mom's passing.

I wonder if you...

Have any regrets about not making amends before she passed?

No. No. Why? We've been estranged for 20 -something years. So I don't

even know what it's like to have a mom.

There's a documentary series coming out that says it's examining your church and

comparing it to a cult. And I know that your sister is participating.

The trailer alleges that you're...

kink is money uh and that your congregation sees you as god anything

that you want to say about it or what what was your reaction her congregation

believed there to be god it hurt me of course definitely hurt me but

i've been through a lot andy i'm pretty tough so it hurt and it just got put in

the pile of all the rest of the things that hurt me It was ironic because the

response from fans of the show and fans of you were like, leave her alone.

We don't want this. I mean, that had to be gratifying to you. Yeah, yeah. That

felt good.

I'm thankful for that.

But, I mean, they'll see the truth.

Lisa and Whitney, any comments about the cult rumor resurfacing about Mary's

church?

No, I stand on the side of I'm glad to see people standing up for Mary and

supporting her.

I feel bad that they're doing this to her. It's old news. I wish it weren't

coming out.

They've been saying that since my church opened.

They said it about my grandmother.

They said it about... Why has that stuck? Why has it been repeated?

I don't know. I think it's because of the policy and the rules and the

things that our church does.

And they're not used to a Pentecostal church in Utah.

And not used to a black church.

And I just think they think it's, I don't know. I have no idea.

Lisa, the Church of Satan posted on Twitter and said they've never asked for

Vita tequila donations from you. Well, I guess I'm going to have to pull out the

tax donation slip.

Really? Yeah. Did you really? You have really donated tequila to the Church of

Satan?

Two cases.

It's been a while. Why?

Why? I thought you were kidding.

Not to be a moron, but I didn't realize there really actually is a church of

Satan. I never heard of it. Can I give two things?

One of them is like a really good political action group that does stuff

women's rights. And one is an actual church of Satan. Actually, what she's

saying is true.

I didn't ask many questions. I just said, send the address and we'll make

delivery. Oh, wow. What's the belief system there?

There's no afterlife. Lisa, I have a question for you. What would Jesus do?

Jesus would give him the tequila. No. No, he wouldn't. Jesus would not like

this. No, I think Jesus would give him the tequila and say, good luck.

Mary, what did you think of Brittany calling you the least Christ -like

she's ever met?

I didn't like that.

I wouldn't have either.

I didn't like having said that. And just having said that is not Christ -like

either. So, again, I'm sorry.

But I have to say, you are being really mean.

You're being really mean. And you're not. You're not mean.

You pretend you're nice and you're not nice. I was literally sitting there

minding my own business.

And you were like, you're not cute. Andy, I don't want to waste my time on

You're not funny. She just wants attention. No, no, no. And I was like,

the least Christ -like person. You stuck your finger.

I meant everything I said. I went like this. And I would say it again. Oh, my

God. That was when I said, you are the least Christ -like person. I meant it in

the moment.

But again, I'm sorry. It wasn't a Christ -like thing to say.

Do you accept her apology?

I mean, I don't think I'll ever like her. Do you feel badly for being mean to

me? Do you ever feel badly for being mean to me? Ever? No, but I'm not mean

you. I respond to you. Oh, you think that saying, you're not cute, you're not

funny, you're not welcome here, you're just a friend, why are you even here?

I don't know.

You tell me. If I just say that out of the blue. Sometimes you do. Yeah,

sometimes you do. Okay.

CoffeeIsLove on Twitter said, Mary was right about Meredith not sticking up for

Lisa on the yacht trip. Oh, God.

Meredith, what's your version of sticking up for your friend? Well,

her friend, I never read the suit. I heard from her about it. So I couldn't

combat what they were saying about the suit because I didn't know anything

it. Meredith and I are great friends, and I don't think... I mean, now.

What did you just say, Mary? I said now you guys are good friends. No, we were

always good friends, and we had a fallout for a minute. Even when you

a whore and said that she slept with half New York?

Do you want to go through the list of everything?

Everybody's called Meredith. Are you just going to fixate on mine? Because I

motherfucking sick of hearing the same goddamn things on repeat.

I'm done.

I'm done. I don't normally do it, but I'm frustrated.

I am frustrated. However the fuck you say that word. Why did you go back to

that? Well, I mean, it was pretty significant. I would say it took you two

to come back together. But it's also four, almost five years ago. And you

what? Because I have to say.

As a viewer, it permeates my thoughts when I watch the two of you

that you two were able to get on the other side about it. Yeah, but the funny

part is, is everyone sitting here repeatedly called me a grudge holder,

one can understand why I've moved on.

That's what's really hypocritical. It is hard to understand. Yeah, and I've

moved on from things, too. Why was I criticized that I was a grudge holder

I was upset? I think it's great that you moved on, but I marvel at it. It is

great. Lisa, were you surprised Mary took your side?

Lisa doesn't care.

Lisa is all about Lisa, and that's it.

She probably doesn't even know what you're talking about.

She doesn't look like she does.

You probably have to help her. No, I do. And I'm marveling at what you're saying

right now, Mary.

Well, Andy asked you a question. Can you answer it? I have shown.

Andy asked you a question. Can you answer that? I don't need you to tell me

to do and how to do it. Okay, well, I need you to answer the question. That's

why we're here. I'm being thoughtful and pragmatic about what I'm saying. Okay.

And you should be happy.

You should be happy I'm thoughtful and pragmatic about what I say. I'm not

about anything when it comes to you, Lisa.

This is so out of left field. I think it's wild.

Yeah, it's wild, Mary.

Did you know Mary took your side? Yes, I do know Mary took my side. And yes, I

was grateful and I explained that to Mary. And Mary and I have had numerous

conversations over the last five years where I have apologized. She doesn't

forward and takes us backwards. No, you don't move forward. Are you serious?

Mary, I move forward in the biggest of ways. I don't move forward when you sat

there with Whitney and said my church was a cult.

Mary. Did you forget that? Mary. That you went after me and you had Cameron on

the show? Do you not remember none of that? That I don't move forward? You

move forward.

You're the worst person when it comes to forgiving.

And you remember everything and you dwell on it. And you get mad.

Then you tell it to the press. You tell it to people. You post on the internet.

You're at Bravo Cotton talking about Bronwyn.

Talking negative. Like you're just, you live in the negative train.

I'm just trying to help you out.

I don't need your help. Well, you need help. I don't need your help. You need

somebody else because you're dark. Mary, do you want to keep talking? You're

very dark, Lisa.

Mary, I don't know where this attack is coming from. I'm not attacking you. Yes,

you are. You just did.

You just did.

You told her she was very dark.

Yes, you just did.

I think she is. Okay.

You know what? I've tried to move on with you. I'm resolved.

I'm good.

Okay.

Welcome back to the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City reunion.

The Salt Lake City women left the rough seas of Canaan only to have a very

turbulent flight back to Utah. And since there was regrettably no footage of

what Meredith did or didn't do in that first class cabin, what was left to fill

the void was a Rashomon effect that this group could not disengage from. Watch.

I'm actually concerned about something that I saw on TikTok.

Seth having a mistress.

You're a liar and a malicious, despicable person.

Good morning.

Come bearing gifts. That's a gift I could do without Bronwyn. I think it's a

gift slash sacrifice.

Oh. We are going to free you, Uni. Are you ready?

One, two.

Goodbye, Uni.

Good night, baby.

It's wet.

Put it in rice.

You guys, who threw this over?

It was me. It was a joke.

I did it as a joke. You threw it in? You were with Bronwyn? Yeah, Uni wanted to

swim.

I think it's really cruel for someone to try and ruin my gift.

Jared went to Great Lakes.

It was Bronwyn's idea.

She's mad at me.

Before we even got on the plane, Meredith was completely out of her mind.

was yelling and screaming and crying because Brittany talked about her

I could hear her through my headphones and she's yelling about me. Obviously

nothing was that deep because I would have been arrested by an air marshal.

I would say Meredith's mad. I've never seen her that upset.

I was upset.

vented to a friend.

Yeah, but Meredith, you lost the right to cry when you guys harassed her on the

plane. I lost the right to my feelings.

You lost the privilege to speak about it. So stop talking to me then.

I wanted to tell you that I am sorry that you heard me talking to Lisa on the

plane. And I feel terribly that I hurt your feelings.

Thank you for that apology. That means a lot.

It was a shady thing to do, to bring up the TikTok.

And I'm sorry.

I brought everybody a gift. Multi -drug urine test cup.

What in the world? If you have made an accusation against me for substance

abuse, I think you need to take the test. I was reacting to your behavior on

plane. You lied, you lied, and all said horrible things about me that didn't

happen. Are you fucking kidding me right now?

I did nothing wrong.

I was a good friend to you, and I'm going to be a great friend to her.

All right.

We have a lot to cover on this topic, but first I want to ask Meredith and

Brittany where the two of you stand today.

I feel like it's just we don't. Yeah, it's just nothing.

Okay. Shakai from Carlsbad said, Brittany, why bring up that obscure

TikTok about Seth's alleged infidelity on the show?

That's such a good question. I'm glad that got asked because I feel like it's

really important to always tell, to be a girl's girl. The way I did it, because

you were calling me an alcoholic at that moment, and I didn't pound a drink. I

came and sipped a little bit of tequila, and then all of a sudden it was this

big tequila game. It didn't have to be. I just asked you a question.

Well, it was a shady question, and you know it. And I admitted, at least I

admitted, that bringing it up, the TikTok.

in our group setting was shady you you still to this day haven't admitted

anything that you did was wrong all you said was you hurt my feelings i'm sorry

that i hurt your feelings that is the stupidest dumb ass apology i've ever

in my life yeah i'm sorry it is leaving a lot out you guys are talking about me

to each other whatever you think did anyone here actually believe the alleged

infidelity tick tock Yes. No.

Not in a shot of her imagination.

I didn't even think twice. Not at the moment. I shouldn't have said it in the

group. Your intention was to hurt me, as you told me. No, my intention was... I

mean, a lot of times marriages get brought up in this group, and the

is never nice.

Like, I'm not saying what she did is right, but the rest of us don't flip

Really? I mean, Angie had a flip out for two years over her marriage. Okay, my

marriage has been talked about a lot.

And you didn't say, oh, I saw this TikTok. You tried to say you know

that my husband was cheating on me. And I didn't throw shit. I didn't bully

anybody. I didn't lose my mind, allegedly. I didn't bully anybody

You can feel what you feel, but what you do with those feelings is up to the

person. Okay. You know what I mean? By the way, you said on Watch What Happens

Live the other night that you have proof that Seth was unfaithful.

Brittany, do you have any additional evidence other than a TikTok that Seth

or was?

Having extramarital activities.

Maybe.

Yeah,

yeah, I do.

You said on Watch What Happens Live the other night that you have proof that.

Seth was unfaithful.

Yeah, yeah, I do.

Did my face just go beet red?

Well, I mean, it's not proof that would hold up in court, but yeah, I mean, it's

hearsay. Here we go.

Here we go. Yeah, Seth told someone that's close to me.

That told me that, yeah, I have two girlfriends where I work. You're saying

Seth told Jared this because you told me that, and I thought it was ridiculous.

Let's call my husband then, just like I did when these accusations were first

shown. Okay. All right, moving on. Hi, honey. Okay,

moving on. Hi, honey. Listen to this. Brittany's trying to say that you

in Jared, and you're like, I got two girls on the side. Why isn't Meredith

talking to her own husband?

We're close friends. Here we go again, honey.

We're close friends. I wouldn't put him in this moment.

It's not going to hurt his feelings.

It will. Because it's not true.

You know? Yeah, it's dumb. But we can handle it. They have a harder time. You

think so? Yeah, processing, they do. Honey, does it bother you that I called

about this? Okay, hold on. Let Meredith.

Okay. Seth, do you have anything you want to say?

I don't get it. I do not get it. Do you have anything you want to say? Andy's

getting everyone to be quiet for one minute. You can say whatever you want.

you have multiple, or do you have any girlfriends besides me?

If people get told that I'm infatuated with you, then they're,

you know, that's not my fault.

I also think anyone who thinks I'm cheating on you also believes in Santa

and Bigfoot. It's about him. Thank you. So there you go. I love you, honey.

Okay. Thank you.

Okay. It's you.

Let's talk about all the other things Jared said. Yeah, let's do it. Like that

your husband goes to Dubai and gets ED meds and stuff. She said a lot of stuff.

She said a lot of stuff. I did hear that you told Brittany she should make sure

to say that on camera. No, her boyfriend did on camera. He brought it up at

Amy's party. He brought it up at Amy's party.

He was so happy to say it at Amy's party.

Jared, I was just asking for you.

Why don't you tell Amy here about where Todd wanted you and him to go?

Tell her what he wanted you to do.

Jared, say it. You said it to all of us.

Say it. I am staying out of any controversy. You're not. I am in the

won't vote for you unless you tell her.

I'm going to have to plead the fifth. I have to plead the fifth. No, no, no. You

don't. Tell her where she wants. Where did Dodd want to go with you?

Bronwyn and I are on great terms.

And then you doubled down and told her to make sure it got on camera by saying

it agrees.

Hassan from Texas said, Brittany, can you see I'm mentioning Meredith vomiting

last year and coming for her husband and saying she has seizures this year

triggered her. Can you own your part in it? Sure. I didn't say she had seizures.

I haven't seen Meredith yet without her having a seizure of some sort.

My daughter, Olivia, had seizures when she was little. When Meredith goes like

this and she's screaming at me, you're vile and disgusting human being. It

triggers me. I'm sorry. It triggered me. I wasn't saying she was having

seizures. I was merely sort of making light of it. It was a terrible joke. I'm

sorry. But it's also triggering to me.

Bronwyn, why did you offer Meredith Brittany's unicorn as a sacrifice?

I really thought it was silly.

I realized now watching it back, it looked very mean. It broke the voice

The whole thing was stupid to me, but it hurt your feelings. I apologized to

you. I chased you down when we got off the boat and said I was sorry.

Okay. Number one question that I keep getting, and I know you all

keep getting, is why didn't anyone record

On the plane. Why didn't anyone pick up their phone?

Now, I have a theory on this. I have so many theories on this. Heather?

Whitney said this to me in the dressing room this morning. I was kind of

shocked. She's like, my biggest regret is not picking up my phone and recording

it. Okay. And I thought, just being honest, I thought.

What kind of piece of shit person would we be to record what was happening and,

like, film it? Because this is entertaining.

It was weird.

It was crazy behavior.

It was what we've seen from Matt before. We were just tolerating it to get home

because we knew why she was mad.

But it shifted in the flight.

Sal from Texas said, Heather, you recorded in the bathroom in Palm Springs

Lisa lost her $60 ,000 ring, but you didn't record this?

Thank you.

Didn't it? Did it occur to you that Meredith would lie and you needed proof?

No. If Whitney had taken out her phone, if Mary, if production had taken out

their phone, can you imagine if I had taken out my phone? What the fuck are

guys doing? Well, that's the point I was going to make. The last time you took

out your phone, it did not go well. You need to leave.

I've had enough of you. This is insane. You are vile.

You're recording me? She recorded me. I have had enough. It didn't go well.

She's recording us.

I'm the last person.

That's my first point. My second point is we don't really record each other.

And I understood why you were mad.

It escalated. It escalated. It escalated. It escalated. We were on your

don't know at what point it tipped. But maybe when we were hustling her through.

I don't know, Meredith.

No, you weren't on my side. I brought on that plane on your side. I texted you

guys on your side. I texted you when you got off the jet when you were screaming

at me. You were not on my side at breakfast that morning. Because as we

out of breakfast.

I even said to you, I am shocked I didn't have support from you this

She deserves every ounce of what I said.

And the fact that you support her is disappointing.

I'm just trying to survive here.

It's just a fucking hot mess.

I mean, Meredith, your ability to recall specific information when it serves

you. My feelings were heard. I remember it. Were your feelings heard when we

told you what you were doing on the plane?

Do you recall what you were doing on the plane? No, I never said it didn't

happen. Excuse me?

What did I say to you on the plane? You don't remember a thing you said to me on

the plane. Lisa had to tell you. I had to tell you. And then you still denied

it. Talk over her. She screeched at me for two months.

Screeched at you for two months? You did. Fuck you.

Fuck you for saying that.

I've never preached to you, and I will start.

Our friendship is over from this moment on.

I can't.

Buckle up, Meredith. It's not going to be a fun ride.

I mean, Meredith, do you recall what you were doing on the plane with such

accuracy? Oh, she screeched at me for two months. She screeched at you for two

months? Fuck you.

Fuck you for saying that. I've never screeched at you, and I will start.

Okay, well, it's over from this moment on.

Buckle up, Meredith.

It's not going to be a fun ride.

That sounds like a threat.

Wow. Yeah, it is.

That's very transparent. I've been your friend for six years. I sat on shit. I

backed you.

Vaginagate. Rolling Thunder.

Garbage whore. Fucked half of New York. Wait, why don't we do it? I had

your back.

And you know what? I have backed you on everything. This is the first time I've

ever seen you speak up. You've used maybe ten words tonight.

I've had plenty to say and it's daytime, but that's okay.

You know what? Yeah.

Good luck to you. Heather's been so supportive about you. Even when you and

weren't in a great place, she spoke so highly of you. She has had your back for

years.

Really admired you, and I think she's been a great friend. So why is she so

triggered by me just saying that she responded? Because you're calling her a

liar. You said you lied to me when I did not lie. I will get there. We're not on

that yet.

You're the liar. Can I get past what I wanted to say that I can't get a word

out? You've never apologized for looking at me, and you've never even admitted

it. Everyone wants to talk, and you all will talk.

Thank you. Okay?

Promise? Yes, I promise.

Okay. Do we want?

each of you, Brittany and Meredith, to say what you think happened.

No, I have a question first. Okay, ask the question. Because I've been trying

ask the question since the whole thing started.

And my question is... To whom? To the group? To the whole group. To everybody.

I didn't deny that anything happened. I never said that. Something did happen.

What we don't agree on is exactly what happened.

And if what...

Everybody, not everybody, but the majority of people here are saying

can't, for the life of me, understand how anyone who is Brittany's friend

get up to help her. And anyone who's my friend, if you're so terribly concerned

about me, as you guys expressed, didn't.

come to me and say, hey, Meredith, are you okay?

I did. What's going on here? Lisa did, and I did when we got off the plane. And

I texted you when you were getting on. I said, I feel sorry that you were so

upset. You saw the text I sent you after you had said to me, our friendship is

over because you're siding with the horrible things you said about her that

have not spoken about. Let's talk about what's not being spoken about that's

protecting you.

The horrible, horrible, slanderous, deafness things that you said about her

the plane.

That we all heard. None of us had spoken about it. If you think we're protecting

Britney, we're protecting you.

And they were libelous and they were horrible.

I did.

I tried. I asked Meredith multiple times. Meredith, we know you're upset,

quiet. Calm down. And then you bring me into the fight.

I kept saying, did I not say be quiet?

I asked her multiple times to be quiet. And then she'd be like, give me up to

TikTok. Give me the TikTok. Every time I tried to talk to Meredith, she'd bring

me into the fight and be like, we want the TikTok. Lisa would lean over and

at me. And I did.

One at a time. One at a time.

Meredith, what did Whitney say to you on the plane? The only engagement I had

with Whitney on the plane was in the last hour or so, it was close to landing

time. I said to Lisa, nobody can find this TikTok.

I even asked Whitney. And Whitney said, I hear my name. What are you saying

about me? I said, you couldn't find the Tic Tac. No. Lisa, lean over to my

chair. Stop interrupting. I will let you speak. No, I did not. So I said to

Whitney.

I told her what I said, and she snapped at me and said, you go find the fucking

TikTok. And I go, whoa, that was really nasty out of nowhere.

Not out of nowhere, girl. I thought you didn't remember anything from the plane.

I remember everything. You're the one who said I don't remember. So when it

serves you, you remember.

But I was there for Brittany, and I did engage with Meredith. Why did no one

switch seats with Brittany?

Because.

It's almost a six -hour international flight. We were in full descent when it

really started to get raucous, like zip -tied to the seat raucous.

Even the flight attendants were checking on us. They were buckled in. We were

nose down. I had just barely come back from the bathroom. They're like, get...

Get to your seat. That's when I came back with wine on my seat.

What? My seat. My mate is like, I'm so sorry. Do I need to pull up information

about unruly passengers? That was when people started screaming at each other.

It was too late. It was. It was too late. Okay. All right. Okay. Let me ask

this. We have a producer sitting right behind me. Why don't you ask her what

happened? She was in a different class of service from you. What I'm saying is

didn't dump wine. I didn't kick a seat. Okay. If you want to tell me. Okay.

All right. Okay. Okay. Okay. She said you pulled her hair. Yeah, that's what

saying. If that happened. You said to me that getting up from your seat, using

your body weight to use her chair, that maybe inadvertently her hair felt

jostling. No, I didn't touch her hair. I wouldn't touch her hair. Okay. You

wouldn't know. It made her feel like her hair was being pulled.

So, Meredith, specifically, you are denying what the women have said about

they say happened on the phone. That I had direct engagement with Brittany. I

was talking to Lisa.

I didn't touch Brittany. The only time I had any contact was when Lisa was

sleeping and I had to climb over her. Okay. So that was the only contact.

verbal or physical that I had with Brittany on this one. Just using the

get to the bathroom. I didn't actually touch her.

When you said this one... I didn't say this one. She was sleeping. Who would I

be talking to? She had to have shaken the chair because Brittany's chair was

front of Lisa. Okay. Right. But I wasn't going like this. I was using it to

climb over with a sprained toe.

Correct. I used it to climb over with a sprained toe. Meredith, did you...

Shake the chair a little harder than necessary when you walked by just to

point. No. No.

Probably, maybe. Yeah. A little bit. I mean, this is a little ridiculous.

All right. Okay.

All right. Can I ask you this?

Did you have a drink before you got on the plane?

Okay. Let's backtrack for one moment before we delve any further. And I will

revisit this with you in just a moment. Okay. I think what's really important

here that's going by the wayside is discussing why I have such a fractured

relationship with Brittany.

Did you have a drink before?

You got on the plane.

Okay. Let's backtrack for one moment before we delve any further. And I will

revisit this with you in just a moment. Okay. I think what's really important

here that's going by the wayside is discussing why I have such a fractured

relationship with Brittany. Okay.

And it's rooted in bigotry.

Okay. And it's something I addressed with her off camera. Okay. And she was

nasty to me. Finally, she eked out an apology.

Eked out?

I snuggled you. Okay, let her speak. So do you want to tell me what it was that

you're referring to? Yeah, she supported a bigot.

This nail technician, this was on the news and all over social media, he had

this interaction with a Jewish man where allegedly he was like, oh, you're

Jewish, and made a nasty emoji on it. And the guy's like, what's wrong with

that? And the nail tech responded with, Jews are pedophiles who escape

prosecution by fleeing to Israel.

Wow. And he was, like, this was all over the news, all over social media, and

the guy was attacked on his Google review page.

Okay. So he reached out to Brittany and Jared and asked them to do a review to

combat all the negative reviews he was receiving because he's an anti -Semite.

Okay.

And they wrote a glowing review for him. Okay. And they were DM'd and called out

about it all over social media. And Brittany's response was, I only saw the

thing. Was there more?

Okay. That was a problem.

Never picked up the phone and said, Meredith, I know you saw this. And I

explain what happened. This is not true. Nothing.

Silence. Nothing. Then when I was, I said, at the RV trip.

It is festering inside me, and I am much more hostile to Brittany than the

viewer could possibly understand.

It's not going to add up. Right. So she said, let's all sit down and talk. And

when I started trying to explain this to Brittany, she was screaming at me to

shut up. She was nasty and condescending and very, very rude. I'm so pissed.

After a half hour, 40 minutes, I got a halfway apology that I accepted.

Okay.

Your version is what? That's absolutely ridiculous.

Okay. So the nail tech reached out to me and said, hey, I do Meredith Marks

nails. I would love to come do your nails for free for a post. I said, sure,

absolutely. Did great nails.

Reached out to me and said, hey, I'm getting bad reviews.

Can you write a good review? I'm like, oh, absolutely.

That's the least I could do. You're doing my nails for free.

Wrote a great review.

The next thing I know, someone sends me posts and I'm like, whoa, what's

happening? I called him and I said.

Is this right? Are you anti -Semitic? I'm going to take down my review and

contact me again. Now, I'm not going to reach out to you because, A, you use the

same technician as me. You are just as guilty as not knowing as me.

But one thing was on the news. I didn't write him a review. Did you use the

technician? That's why this is so sensitive to me. I was in my home, Andy.

Okay. This is very sensitive to me. Yeah.

I did it. I handled it exactly the way I was supposed to.

When you wrote the review, did you know he was anti -Semitic? No clue.

It was all over the news and all over the Internet.

Are you anti -Semitic? No.

Apologize to her. I did a thousand times, but I have to finish this story.

have to.

Please let me finish this because that is like literally one of the worst

accusations you can make of a human being. Correct. And I'm the farthest

from to it, and I will not be called that without hearing me out. Okay.

I handled it.

Exactly the right way. And when I found out what it meant to you, and when I

found out that you really actually felt this way, what did I do?

I cried and I held you in my arms like a child.

And I snuggled you like this.

I'm sorry, I'm about to mess up your hair. I went like this. Oh, God. It

like a theater voice to me.

I was like this. I was like, I am so, so sorry. I had no idea.

And I cried.

Can you not believe that maybe she really didn't know?

So she's innocent, but we're always guilty. This is what she did when we

She made herself the victim.

I feel like she's very sorry.

Well, why can't she just say it? That's what I'm saying.

I had no idea. I feel like she's literally just looking for something

nasty to say about me.

Has she ever said anything anti -Semitic to you?

She's been on the attack of me from day one. I was nice to her and she just

started attacking me. But did you feel she was attacking you because of your

religion? It felt like it was very targeted. I don't understand this.

It's so unfair.

It is so unfair.

And it's not right.

It's not right.

Yeah, she's the victim here. I'm not the victim.

I'm just so sick of this bullshit.

It's just an excuse to be mad at me, and I don't understand.

It's not fair, and I'm so sick of being ganged up on.

I'm so tired of being the low -hanging fruit.

Me called bigoted. It's not okay.

It's not okay.

You need to go.

Fuck this.

Stop calling me a victim. I'm not a victim.

I'm not kidding.

Leave me alone.

Next week, the reunion concludes.

You said that I popped pills. I didn't say that you popped pills. Please don't

say you didn't do it. Like, you can't dare to have a conversation with the

of us. Sit the fuck down and talk through it with us. Don't talk to me

Lisa, it seems like John wants to embarrass you on camera.

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