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Hello and welcome to The Traitors:
Uncloaked grand finale!
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I'm Ed Gamble and I'm
here to debrief that
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unbelievable last episode
with all of our finalists.
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If you haven't watched it yet,
you need to do that now.
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I cannot stress that enough
because I am about to give
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you the biggest spoilers ever.
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Head to iPlayer and join us
as soon as you're finished.
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Right...
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Joining me on our grand finale...
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Claudia Winkleman is here to finally
talk about the show she spends
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months avoiding discussing.
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Charlotte, Alexander and Frankie
are on stage to decompress from that
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highly stressful final day.
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And our winners, Jake
and Leanne, will be joining us
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for their first-ever interviews!
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Grab yourself a cup of tea
and a biscuit, as Claud would say,
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because this is The Traitors:
Uncloaked!
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What a final episode!
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I was so excited, I had
to go and lie down in
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a coffin to calm down -
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otherwise known as the Alexander
technique.
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We'll be speaking to the finalists
shortly, but first I'm joined
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by the icon that is Claudia
Winkleman!
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How hard is it being, keeping
everything a secret? I just haven't
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spoken at all, really, I have been
very quiet for months. It is OK, I
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think everybody wants to keep it a
secret, we had brilliant crew who
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was there, everybody was involved,
but it was very important. I am a
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bit ahead sometimes, I find people
actively avoid talking to me because
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they don't want to read into
anything I say! That is exactly
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right. How did you feel, watching
that final back? I find it very
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emotional. The last three days were
very emotional because Minah went,
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then Charlotte was utterly
brilliant, Freddie did not want to
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be a Traitor, and he was amazing.
And then Alexander and Frankie and
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the winners, and I tell you who we
really missed in there, and I am not
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just saying it, we missed Joe
because he got rid of any tension,
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when it was, like, I can't breathe!
Joe would say, Lisa, could you ask
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upstairs? But Joe brilliantly just
cut through everything and then with
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him gone the last couple of days was
very emotional and tense. Sometimes,
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you need that release valve. We just
needed him! We will talk to
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Charlotte and Frankie shortly about
the Seer power, how excited about
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that were you when they told you
that would happen? The people who
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make the show are geniuses, they are
so clever, they said it to me, and I
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was, like, what? I need to ask
Francesca, actually, because when we
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were in that room and she was
choosing and going between this and
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that person, when she chose, I could
hear my own heart beating, I could
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hear it. It was so intense, and what
are the chances she chooses her best
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friend, just the affirmation, like,
now I will know? What are the
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chances? I could not believe it, but
the people who make the show are so
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clever. Maybe she was doing it,
judged on your heart? That would be
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very bad! Because my whole job is to
give nothing away. How do you think
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Frankie and Charlotte both played
that moment? I thought they played
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it really beautifully because they
were incredibly close and such
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breast Friends, they looked after
each other from the beginning.--
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best friends. They were in a very
difficult situation. Honestly, hats
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off to both of them but I thought
Charlotte was so strong and Faithful
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to the game because anybody else
would have gone, never mind, and she
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didn't. It was so beautiful,
Charlotte taking on the role of a
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mob boss in that moment! And she so
it isn't, she is the most adorable
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creature, and I thought they handled
it brilliantly. Another new addition
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this season was the banished players
in the final Round Table, not
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revealing their roles within the
game, what do you make of the new
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addition? I love it because as we
have always said it is a game of
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listening to your gut and of
instinct, and then they are second
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guessing, and Leanne, who I adore,
because she played with her entire
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heart, with all have the passion, it
would be life changing for her.
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Anyway, you could see when I
announced that Frankie and Alexander
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are Faithfuls, her whole demeanour
was, like, no, this is happening to
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me! Cast your mind back to episode
one, where the first piece of
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evidence that someone was a Traitor
was spotted by one of our winners,
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Jake, everyone knows what I am going
to say, Linda's had turned when you
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said Traitors, we love Linda on
Uncloaked. Did you see her head
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turned? Yeah! I wanted to say,
babes, eyes down, but because Linda
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is so well brought up, her manners
were just... When I said, you will
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find your identities later... What
are you doing? But Linda, I am
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looking at you now, you are a gift,
you are. APPLAUSE. My favourite
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thing, because obsessively I watch
them all the time, that sounds
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creepy, but I do, upstairs, my
favourite thing was the loudest
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voice, you could just hear it, who
is going to come in? At breakfast,
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and there she is, that's my girl.
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Claudia, you've entertained us every
episode and the show wouldn't be
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the same without you.
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Let's have a reminder
of some of your highlights.
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There she is! We have taken it up a
notch, boys, lower me. It is brutal
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here, isn't it? This little game is
called Death Match. Alexander and
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Posey, your first breakfast.--
Fozia. I really hope you like
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Columbo. I have never asked this in
this room before, how do you feel
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about murdering your sister?
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about murdering your sister? That
was very fast! Like a pony! Time is
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ticking! First question, what do you
think of my boyfriend? It is a ten
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from me. Well done, you deserve a
biscuit, go back to the castle. Can
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I just say to anybody who is
watching? Alexander is single.
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I can't wait for you to find out
where Charlotte's really from.
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APPLAUSE.
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We'll be talking to our winners
soon, but now I'm thrilled
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to welcome our three runners-up -
Charlotte, Alexander and Frankie!
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We are so excited to have
you all here and we'll be speaking
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to each of you about your time
playing the game.
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In WELSH ACCENT: Now,
the Traitors is famed
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for its lies and treachery,
but one player decided to take it
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one step further, convincing
everyone that she was in fact Welsh.
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She kept it up for the whole series
- I can barely manage a sentence.
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Her fellow players had to find out
eventually and of course we had
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to film their reactions.
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Shall we find out what the scroll
says? I am ready. I am nervous! I
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don't know if my heart can take any
more. I am nervous! Charlotte is
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born and bred in London. Did she not
say she was from Wales? She is from
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Wales?
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Wales? The Welsh accent is fake!
What, why? Are you serious? Oh, my
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God! She is not Welsh? What? What
the hell, Charlotte? I think it must
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be easier for her to put on the
persona and throw people under the
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bus is a Traitor when everything
about her is pretend. Maybe there is
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a statistic that the Welsh are
trustworthy, I don't know! She has
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been speaking Welsh for weeks, every
day! She is the most Welsh person I
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have ever met! How dare she! Must be
like the relief of taking off your
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bra after a long day and she is
like, hello!
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'Ello, guvnor!
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APPLAUSE.
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Charlotte, your Welsh accent.
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What on earth were you thinking?!
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I mean, I literally did it on my
audition video to stand out, you
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have seen episode one, I said, I am
Charlotte, from Wales, and I'm
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actually from London. But it got me
on the show. And it got me to the
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end, and it gave me the biggest
headache ever. I thought, especially
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when I met Elen in the kitchen, that
infamous scene, I thought, oh,
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Christ, I can't do this, I am done,
but then I think when Elen got
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banished, I thought, the threat has
gone, the immediate threat has been
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removed, the actual Welsh person has
gone, I have to taper it back a bit,
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I thought, no one would question how
you speak, even though it was a bit
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like this... It would be a mad thing
for someone to question, I don't
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think you are really Welsh! But also
I am not going back and playing the
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game again, but may be contributed
to my getting as far as I did, I
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don't know. Who is to know?
Something got you very far and that
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might have played into it. Was it
more difficult as well when you
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became a Traitor to have the accent
to think about? After about two or
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three days where I genuinely would
go back to my room, I would have a
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breakdown in thought, what am I
doing? I kind of just rolled with it
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and thought, this is what I have
signed on the dotted line to do and
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I think I saw some of the cuts were
I am speaking to the camera, or even
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when you came in, I am still doing
my Welsh even though I am meant to
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be doing this now, my brain was
doing it all. I think you are so
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brilliant, and when we met, you said
something about, if you put on an
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accident, you have to think before
you speak, and you did.-- and
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accent. It was very clever. When we
speak normally, we speak fast and
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interject, with the Welsh, honestly,
it was like taking on a different
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language, I could not be as fast
with butting in, so I was more
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considered when I spoke and maybe
that helped, and also the Round
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Table, everyone just listened to
you, so that was easier to launch
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into my monologue, you know, here I
am, at the table. She is doing it
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now, guys! But I could not keep up a
strong valleys accent. I just
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couldn't do it for the longevity.
Frankie and Alexander, did you
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suspect anything? No. If you had
raised it and you said, your accent
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may not have been real, that would
have reflected worse on me than
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Charlotte! We should talk about the
Seer. One of the biggest talking
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points of that final episode in the
series, Charlotte, explain what was
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going through your mind when Claudia
told you Frankie picked you. It was
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literally horrendous because we were
sat in the billiards room on the
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sofa, essentially all saying, I
really hope Frankie picks me because
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it will just prove my faithfulness,
so when you said my name, my
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immediate reaction was to beam and
be like, yes, she has picked me! I
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thought that was amazing, your
reaction was to smile because I
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would have cried! I did that but you
did not see that bit, I really,
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really wanted to just try my best.
You were amazing, honestly,
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Charlotte, and what I said earlier
before you came in, anybody else,
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they would have given up and went,
all right, it was done, and you were
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a brilliant Traitor and you really
played it beautifully.
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You played the game. Frankly, I want
to know, because that was a
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difficult decision, who to bring in
and you were torn between Charlotte
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and Alexander. Why Charlotte?
Alexander confused me with the coins
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and I wondered why he was being nice
to me and that through me. And
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because Freddie had voted for
Charlotte. I wanted Charlotte to be
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a Faithful and for that to be
affirmed but Freddie doing that
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before he was banished, I thought,
oh, I've got to scratch the itch and
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hoping that wasn't the case. But it
was. Yeah. Alexander, can you
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describe that moment in the
breakfast room when it Charlotte and
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Frankie came in after the Seer
meeting? Yes, they were really
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close, you were close in the game
and watching them coming in with
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this ice in the room, you could cut
it. Something was really wrong and
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you could see that in how you
interacted. It was silence,
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everybody wanted to know the outcome
and instead we got silence and
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Charlotte was like a cup of tea?
Last question on anyone's mind was
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that. I offered a cup of tea, I
didn't know what else to say. I
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didn't know how to play it, I'd been
thinking about it overnight. I
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literally didn't know what to do
because I can't go in and go yeah,
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I'm a Traitor, let's go home. You
did well to hold the line. I didn't
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know what to do, it was so hard. I
wish I had waited for Frankie to
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speak and then I could have reacted
really shocked. But I didn't know
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and anyway... I like what you did
with the narrative. I wanted to see
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what she said first so I said, cup
of tea and then, come on, Charlotte.
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Speaking with your eyes. And into
Jake's here, very close!-- into
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Jake's ear. Alexander, you were
still fully eating breakfast! In
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every shot, I'm quietly eating!
Frankie, do you have a plan for the
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different scenarios, whether
Charlotte was going to be a Traitor
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or Faithful? No, I was hoping that
she was a Faithful. I'm going to go
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with it and see what happens and
then, she's not really going to be
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one. I have a theory she might be
but she won't really. When I opened
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the envelope I was genuinely just...
I probably should have had a plan
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rather than crying. I was so
shocked. What about you, Charlotte?
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Walking into the room, you know
what's going to happen. Did you know
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what you were going to say and do?
No, I couldn't do anything.
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Literally she is going to see I'm a
Traitor. But yeah, obviously, I did
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say... It comes out so maliciously
in the episode. I was feeling so
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much pressure. On the brink of
tears. Weirdly I was smiling in a
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menacing way but essentially I was
like, you realise I'm a Faithful, I
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have to play as a Faithful. This is
horrendous for both of us. Actually
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awful. It was really not nice. It
wouldn't have been nice with anyone
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but especially Frankie. There was no
game plan. If the game plan was to
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pick up a flute of champagne like a
bad as... LAUGHTER
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Claudia, how did you feel with that
playing out? I obviously wasn't in
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the room. On a beanbag. I couldn't
believe it and I was saying earlier,
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Francesca, when we were standing in
that room... I thought, there is no
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way you're going to pick Charlotte,
your best friend. When you went with
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that I was so worried because I
could hear my blood going around my
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body. I could hear my heartbeat. My
own job is to give nothing away.
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That, and make myself orange, the
only two things. I couldn't... You
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couldn't write it. How was the final
day for you, Frankie? You and
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Charlotte were very close and then
you had the Seer meeting. How was it
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battling against her? It was horrid
but it made me really focused as
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well. I knew that I kept getting
things wrong, I actually have some
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information here. I cried less than
I did the other day. I've got to
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tell the truth, that's my only
mission today, to tell the truth and
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if it goes my way... It was really
difficult because I felt like I was
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scrabbling around in weird mud
wrestling but neither of us won and
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we both just got muddy! It was just
weird. A situation you never
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envisaged. And you've made up now,
all friends? Yes, always friends.
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Yeah. They made it to the end. It's
really hard as a Traitor because
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when you are playing a Traitor, you
know, it is a game so you are
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deceiving people and lying but no
one knows. In this instance, Frankie
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new. It felt ever so slightly less
fun for me because I am just lying
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and somebody knows I'm lying. When
we had that moment in the kitchen,
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it was weird, the two of us. You
literally know and I know and we
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have to let the others to sort it
out. It was weird, you know. It was
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hard. I'm really glad we had the
moment in the kitchen. We were
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getting so tense around that day and
then we slightly reconnected as
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friends. I know why you're doing
this and you know why I'm doing this
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and we go back to the game. It
really made me cry, I was watching
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upstairs. I was watching you in the
kitchen. It would help the ratings
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if you had a little... Alexander,
you didn't buy into Charlotte's
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story after the Seer meeting. You
weren't wavering and you suspected
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Charlotte might have been a Traitor
after Freddie was banished. Why?
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Charlotte and Frankie and I were
quite close for that period. And
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that morning when Freddie came in,
Charlotte kind of turned on me a
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little bit. I don't know, Alexander,
I'm starting to think it's you. And
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I was like, no, no. We are too close
for you just to turn like that. It's
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a behaviour I haven't seen before.
You would have talked to me quietly,
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or something. But this is a play.
From that moment I was sure and
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that's when I took you into the
library. So intense. Trying the
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Spanish Inquisition, not very
effective. Was that the nodding? My
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gosh, I don't want to be
interrogated by him again! I know
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I'm a Traitor but I go into the
billiards room, what did I say?
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Behaving erratically! And then I
said to Freddie, Freddie, can you go
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and tell Frankie... Thinking that
Freddie would be my line of truth.
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That wasn't affected. He was also a
Traitor. Now, Leanne and Jake will
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be here shortly with their exclusive
first interview before winning but
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before that, the train ride in
episode one, the final mission and
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the thrilling endgame.
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First, here on Uncloaked,
we like to bring you exclusive
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moments, so here is Frankie
and Alexander finding out
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whether the four other finalists
were Faithful or Traitors
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after they'd left the game...
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Charlotte, Traitor. Alexander,
Faithful. Leanne, Faithful. Jake,
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Faithful. Oh, that's good. That's
great. I feel bad for Alexander. Oh,
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wow. Haha!
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wow. Haha! That is brilliant. That
is absolutely brilliant. We were all
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bloody Faithfuls. We didn't trust
each other enough. I think it's
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called the prisoner's dilemma, isn't
it? Everybody goes for each other
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without needing to. That's very
funny.
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funny. Amazing, what a reaction from
you, Alexander. It's the story of
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the game. I watched it on the
subtitles and it
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subtitles and it said ALEXANDER
CACKLES and that was a recurring
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theme. Sometimes you felt like
someone watching the show, you were
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so excited. It was like watching
other people playing the show. I
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felt like it was a game and I loved
that. You know you might not get to
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the next day so you put everything
into that day. I went for a walk
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around the castle grounds on my
first day in case I didn't come
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back, I felt every day was special
and I loved playing. You were
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surprised that Leanne was a
Faithful. You always maintained that
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Leanne was a Traitor. Why did you
have such strong suspicions? It was
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a mix. You have to go back but the
voting patterns with Minah were very
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close, I didn't understand her
reactions. The story about the
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shields and being murdered. I had a
brilliant story in my head, I
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remember having a notepad at night,
making connections. I was like, I've
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been a genius, seen things no one
else has seen! I've put it
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altogether. And I was so wrong.
Which is always a risk of going hard
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on the theory. Sorry, Minah. Not to
put any spoilers on, it kind of
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worked out. I feel less bad but I
feel bad about that. Frankie, now
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that some time has passed how was it
knowing that there were four
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Faithfuls fighting each other? We
just didn't trust each other enough.
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The Seer was so divisive that we all
got that kind of fever dream spin
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and started turning on each other. I
was so shocked by Charlotte. The
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only person I was clear about was
Leanne. Unfortunately for Alexander
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and Jake, I couldn't see it and I
wasn't going to see it because I
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thought Charlotte likes Jake and she
has said that he is a Faithful and
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Alexander at the roundtable... I got
so confused. I was wrong about
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Leanne, completely. What I want to
talk to you about, because you were
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incredible, is the final mission. We
could have all picked up a sense
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that you were nervous about being
dragged under the helicopter! What
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gave it away? Are you proud of
yourself doing it? I watched it back
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and I couldn't believe I did it. My
children would say that I don't even
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go on the teacups at the fairground!
I have to sit in front of the car, I
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don't like heights. It's my worst
nightmare. Not something you do
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again, then? No! Not asking Leanne
to put in a word for you with the
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army. Alexander, the first episode,
the infamous train ride. You made
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the heroic decision to leave the
train. One question, why? Probably
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the right question! Part of me, it
was a kind of emotional reaction,
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somebody had to solve the problem
and I felt like I could and I was
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frustrated that nobody was, so there
was some righteous indignation.
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Right, I'm going to sacrifice to
make a point. A bit of that. I
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thought quite hard and I listened
carefully to the wording of your
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announcement on the train and
thought, wiggle room. Obviously you
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watch the series before and I
thought, no one has ever left unless
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they've been murdered or banished
and this is neither. I felt the
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first episodes are risky, you know,
you don't know who would be thrown
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out. If I came back in with this
story that I'd done something for
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the group, the team, that would be a
good story. It sort of worked out,
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sort of. I did get back into the
game but it was a pretty choppy
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ride. Jake got off because he needed
the toilet. My reasoning looks
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great. Claudia, I believe you have
an apology for Alexander for
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something you said about him? I'm
sorry that I reported to the group
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that you were single. Because I've
had more messages... The gang. The
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nation! The nice people watching.
I've had more messages about you.
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You are the King. CHEERING
More messages from friends of mine
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who are, you know, define single.
Can I have his number? Yeah. What
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does he smell like? Please don't ask
me that. You were clearly quite fond
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of Alexander in there, Claudia.
Great Faithful but many entertaining
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moments. Do you have a particular
favourite of his moments? When he
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ran like a pony. No, I love all of
them so much when I'm in there and I
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can't be with them all of the time
and Sarah is my boss. When I get
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close she says, back away. In a kind
way. I thought Alexander, Fozzie and
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Jack, getting off the train I think
they did a stellar job with that.--
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Fozia. You have been fantastic
players. Thanks for the
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entertainment you provided. Massive
round of applause for Charlotte,
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Alexander and Frankie.
APPLAUSE
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Well, the time has come
to finally hear from our
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winners, Jake and Leanne.
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Here's the moment the
Faithful won the game.
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We will now finally discover who you
really are. Please don't let me
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down!
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down! Leanne... Please reveal, are
you a Faithful or are you a Traitor?
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I am a Faithful. Jake, please now
reveal, are you a Faithful or are
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you a Traitor? I am... I have always
been... A Faithful! I told you not
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to doubt me. You weren't looking at
me!
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APPLAUSE.
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And our Faithful champions are here!
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APPLAUSE.
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Congratulations to you both.
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What a win!
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How was it, reliving that moment?
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It feels surreal. It is so
emotional, you were so mean to do
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that! I just thought, after all that
stress, I thought it would be funny.
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I just thought, if it was anyone but
Leanne, I would not have done it,
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but as sooner so I started doing it
and saw how angry she was getting, I
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thought, she is going to punch me in
a minute. My initial thought was to
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keep it going longer and longer. It
felt like a lifetime! Did you
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genuinely have suspicions at the
end, Leanne? Especially when Claudia
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revealed we were all Faithfuls, my
heart was shattered, then I looked
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at Jake, and I am, like, I have made
the biggest mistake of my life. It
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was an incredibly final moment,
thank you for doing a bit of
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trolling, we all enjoyed it. We have
to rewind to that first round Jake,
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where you spotted... Sorry to bring
up again, Linda! Where you spotted
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Linda turning her head, take us back
to that moment on what was going
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through your mind. First of all, I
was blinded, I had blindfolds on for
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so long, and as soon as I got my
eyesight, I just clocked it
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straightaway, I thought, is the game
that easy? And I was expecting
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everyone to just pick up on it, and
everyone was, like, oh, no. It is
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just windy! But she reminded me of
my nano, you know when you wind up
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about stuff? I loved that whole cat
and mouse thing I had with her. It
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was a strange one, really.
Obviously, you had that theory but
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everyone forgot about it a bit
during the game, that was the only
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bit of hard evidence anyone had,
really, the Faithful this year, was
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it frustrating, Linda? It was very
frustrating. I got so infuriated in
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my head, thinking, no one is
listening to me, more and more
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people were getting banished, I
thought, we will go down, then it
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was, like a people, listen to me, I
have something here! But then
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finally people clutched on, but it
was frustrating, it felt like I was
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speaking but no voice. I was just
miming. That is similar to how we
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were all feeling at home, thinking,
how is Linda getting away with this?
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Also going, go on, another episode,
Linda, please! How come you guys
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didn't listen to Jake? I just did
not see it. I didn't see the head
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turn, but Linda just had me the
whole time. You didn't vote for her,
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did you? Never once! Towards the end
I voted for Linda twice in the
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second time she got banished, but it
became clear to me, the voting was
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very erratic. And things like when
she pushed it back on you, and then
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she said, I think it is you, Joe,
because you have questioned me,
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there were a few things like that. I
think as well, so much happens in a
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day there, with a click of a finger
everything changes and suspicions
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change onto someone else. It got
easier for Linda because she is very
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dramatic, if people started to think
it is just Linda, watched it back, I
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am thinking, it was so obvious, but
when she was saying, who the hell
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comeback? That is just Linda! Even
then, Linda went, really, when you
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said she was dramatic! Leanne, from
the start, you decided to pretend
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you were a nail technician and not
admit you were a next soldier, how
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easy or difficult was it to keep up
that lie?-- an ex soldier. It was
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harder than I thought, I had Fozia
asking me to do her nails, and the
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amount of conversations people had
with me about being a nail
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technician through me, I really
thought, like, honestly, I did not
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think it was going to be a topic of
conversation. Lisa one day broke a
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nail. She came to me and said,
Leanne, can you fix my nails? I
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said, of course, I will bring my kit
in tomorrow, she remembered the next
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day. I was losing sleep at night,
not because I thought I would get
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murdered but because of Lisa's
fingernail! The other thing I loved
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is during the missions you are so
strong and so fit, and when you were
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putting coins in to get the cages
down, Leanne is running, it was like
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a cartoon, you did not see her legs
move, and not sweating, hair in a
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high pony, and I was, like, easy!
But when she carried the heads up as
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well. But again you can't say, a
nail technician? And be that strong?
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Well, your fellow finalists
might not have clocked on,
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but let's see the moment the other
players found out
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your true identity...
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Minah, I have a scroll that contains
a secret. About one of our players.
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I am more nervous about this than
finding out who the Traitors were. A
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secret! Open this bad boy up, please
be nice! Leanne is not a nail
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technician. What is she now? Don't
say she's a surgeon! She is really
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an army soldier. What? Oh, no! I am
actually not surprised at that. She
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smashed that! At the mission, there
was a point when I said, calm down,
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please. Because I can't catch up
with you, this is embarrassing for
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me.
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I don't know what I'm
more confused of -
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her real job or the job
she was saying she had.
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APPLAUSE.
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Did you do any research before going
in there, did you build your part
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up? Down to how much I would charge
for a set of acrylics. My partner's
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sister owns a salon down the road
with her best friend so I am in
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there all the time, I literally feel
like I work there, so I thought, I
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know it like the back of my hand,
this is something I can get away
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with. Well, you did! Let's rewind to
the beginning of tonight's final
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when we saw Frankie and Charlotte
walking to breakfast, Frankie
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whispered in your ear, Jake, that
Charlotte was a Traitor, what went
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through your mind at that moment,
did you think she was a Traitor
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because she had the last croissant?
I just felt panic because I was not
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expecting it. It would have been
easier if she said Charlotte is
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Faithful but she whispered in my
ear, I felt like, what now? It just
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stressed me out. That was a very
tense moment and, Claudia, you had
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to walk into breakfast. They had
made it to the final and look at
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them, they are fantastic, and I have
enormous respect for each of them
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individually, I did not know which
way it would go but you made it to
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the last day, and look at every
single person in our cast were
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extraordinary, we lost them one by
one, so you still want to celebrate
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that, I did not want to go insane,
guys, I know things are tense. You
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seemed to come in even bigger this
time. Final day, upbeat, can I just
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apologise to you that you dropped
the portrait? It is law. Leanne and
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Alexander, we will have to thrash
this out now, both very suspicious
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of each other all the way through,
how has it been, watching it back,
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knowing you are both Faithful? I
have been screaming at the TV every
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single night, it is a hard watch,
and we were so blinded by our
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distrust on each other when really
if we had worked together we could
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have done really well. And there
were times we almost managed it, we
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sat on the sofa, briefing against
each other, and then we said, this
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is getting a bit silly, we look to
each other and said, maybe we are
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both wrong is, there were a couple
of other chats like that, always
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getting it right and failing, it is
such a shame because you watch the
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TV now and then, what am I doing? I
was going to say, it is quite nice,
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we have been in touch a little bit
and said, I'm so sorry, and it's
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rather nice, bonding this side of
it. And it is so intense, and the
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thing is, me and Alexander got on
like a house on fire, and we really
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had so many loves to get a bit in
the game we could not make it work.
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But also it is so easy when you
know, I say that to everybody, my
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friends are like, can't they... It
super easy at home but not when you
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are in there, you are absolutely,
you are playing the game of your
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life and you have to get it right,
but my favourite moment is these
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two, even though they were at war,
Leanne would always go up and hug
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Alexander afterwards, she would
always go, all right, went up to
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him, there is one Round Table. It is
really nice because underneath it we
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have a strong relationship so it was
not like we dislike each other but
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because we have a strong
relationship that it was quite
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fiery. But actually one of the nice
things this side of it, without that
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game, it has been really nice
getting to know each other more, so
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that has been really good. It's like
a sibling rivalry at Christmas. Or
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bad relationship, whatever way you
look at it. Jake and Leanne, how
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does it feel being the last Faithful
standing? It feels amazing, but I
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also feel really bad because to find
out the Alexander and Frankie were
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both Faithful almost feels like I
robbed them, in a way. So I am
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really happy but also sad because I
do feel like they both deserved the
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money as well. It feels hard to
celebrate I think because the fact
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that there were four Faithfuls in
the end is sickening. Well, look,
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all five of you played a brilliant
game and we loved watching, thank
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you for keeping us so entertained,
you're all incredible, well done,
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can I get a massive round of
applause for our finalists, winners,
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Claudia and all the players from
series three?
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The chat continues in your BBC
Sounds bonus episode,
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with more from Charlotte,
Alexander, Frankie, Jake,
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Leanne and our Claud!
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We'll be hearing whether our
finalists wanted to be
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Traitors or Faithful.
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Plus, we'll be lifting the lid
on life after The Traitors
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and finding out about the post-game
friendships amongst the players.
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That's in your BBC Sounds app right
now, so scan the QR code on screen
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to get your ears around that!
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If you're watching this
and thinking, I can lie
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about my job, dangle
from a helicopter or look
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someone in the eye
during a tense End Game,
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then - good news - casting
for series four is still open.
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Head to bbc.co.uk/takepart to apply.
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Applications are closing soon.
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Who knows, next year,
you could be sat right
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here explaining why you'd
spent your time in the castle
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pretending to be French.
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And if you're already getting
Traitors withdrawal symptoms,
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don't panic as we've
got you covered.
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The first five episodes
of The Traitors: US series three
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are available to binge on iPlayer
now, with new episodes dropping
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weekly from next Friday.
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So there we have it -
25 players, five Traitors,
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two equally believable Welsh
accents, one badly-timed head
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turn and more misspelled
names than I can count.
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Thank you for watching this
series of Uncloaked.
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To pinch one of Claudia's lines,
the time for talk is now over.
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I'm Ed Gamble.
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Stay Faithful.
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APPLAUSE.
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