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In the criminal justice system,
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sexually based offenses
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are considered
especially heinous.
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In New York City,
the dedicated detectives
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who investigate
these vicious felonies
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are members of an elite squad
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known as
the Special Victims Unit.
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These are their stories.
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I am so sorry.
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Take it easy.
You made it, you made it.
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Come here. Sit down.
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Excuse me, can I get
a glass of wine here?
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Did you hear from your mother?
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Yeah, the last report
from Staten Island
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is that the kids are
making popcorn,
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they're watching movies
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that they probably
shouldn't be watching,
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but everybody's happy.
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Thank you.
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Liv keep you late, or...?
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No, she had to kick me out.
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I... I just...
I lost track of time.
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I'm really sorry.
- No, no, no.
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Relax, relax. Look.
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Sounds to me like
you're finally back
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in a job that makes you happy.
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I am.
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Happy.
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It's just weird.
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- Why is that weird?
- I don't know.
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I'm just...
I guess I'm just used to
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hopping around different jobs,
and this feels...
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permanent.
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Enjoy it.
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Be bored.
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Just for a minute.
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Here.
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Happy second anniversary.
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Yes.
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I don't think
that's how it goes.
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Silence is almost eerie.
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Hear me complaining?
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Hey, I'm gonna take a shower.
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Don't you go anywhere.
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Sonny?
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Sonny?
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Drop it.
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Lower the gun.
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Drop it or I'll shoot.
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Shoot and Counselor Carisi
dies, Sergeant Rollins.
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It's okay, it's okay.
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Put it on the ground.
Kick it to me.
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There's still time
to get out of this.
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Do it!
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I said to me!
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Just forget about the gun.
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Just... just tell us
what you want.
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Back up.
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All right.
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He walks over slow.
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You tie him up.
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I'm not doing that.
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I'm in control.
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Amanda.
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Do it!
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Unravel it.
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No.
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Unravel it!
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Don't move.
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- Are you okay?
- I'm okay, I'm okay.
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Go, go. Go.
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- Amanda, it's funny.
- Anything?
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Not yet,
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but we have every cop
in the city on the lookout.
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Okay, just make sure that
they have his full description.
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Um, he was white.
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Um, he was young, 20s, probably.
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He had medium build.
He had brown eyes.
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Okay, Amanda, we got it.
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Why don't... why don't you have
a seat, honey?
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Okay?
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Look, is there anything
at all familiar about him?
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Did you... the sound of
his voice, a familiar scent?
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No, if we know him,
we didn't recognize him.
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No.
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But he sure as hell
knew who we were.
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Yeah, he knew our names.
And he knew how to break in.
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He was waiting here for us, Liv.
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Did he say anything that
gives us motive, anything?
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He wanted us both dead.
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Okay? He didn't need to say it.
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And the way he referred to
us, Sergeant, Counselor...
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like, I know that we're looking
at a targeted attack,
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but I think it could be revenge.
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I'm sending
a protective detail, okay?
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To Staten Island for your kids
and your parents.
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And I'm putting you two
in a hotel until we know more.
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- Good.
- This could've...
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this could have been
really, really bad.
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And it wasn't because
you kept your head about you
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and you protected yourself.
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And you are safe
and your children are safe.
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We're gonna-
Widen the perimeter.
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And I want a patrol car
on every block
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a mile out until
we say otherwise.
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Hey, I just wanted
to see with my own eyes
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that you were all right.
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We're fine. Thank you, Chief.
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The department is devoting
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every available resource
to this.
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We will be meticulous and swift.
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Um, my personal number.
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Call any time.
- Appreciate it, Chief.
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Yeah.
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You all right?
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You want the honest answer?
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Me neither.
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When it happens to one of us,
it happens to all of us.
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Yeah.
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I'm here to support you,
whatever you need.
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Well, I want is for you
to take the lead on this.
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And before you answer...
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Done.
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Wow, okay.
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Thank you.
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She'll, need to be on modified
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while the shooting
is being reviewed.
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Of course.
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Give up her gun,
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which I imagine will go over
like a lead balloon.
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She...
she understands protocol.
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Still, if you need me to be
the bad guy, I'll take the hit.
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Tell her I won't listen
to reason.
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I appreciate that.
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I'll handle it.
- Sure.
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And, um, I'll get her on top
of the list for the psych eval.
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You just find who did this.
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I will.
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Hey, what did we get
from the witnesses?
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Neighbor's a bust.
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He heard the guy
in the fire escape.
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He couldn't get a good look.
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But the Amazon driver did,
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said that he saw
a man in a COVID mask
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get into a blue Honda.
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We get a license plate?
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No. Let me show you why.
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The plate's got some kind
of cover on it.
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The guy knows what he's doing.
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It's too far away
to ID the driver,
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but the perp gets into
the passenger side.
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Which means that
he had an accomplice.
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Did any other cameras
pick this up?
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No, none better than this.
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We'll put out an APB
on what we got.
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Okay, did we get anything
back from the labs?
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No prints on the cord
that was left behind,
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but they're pushing his blood
through CODIS.
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Hey, where's...
where's Rollins?
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So tell me you wanna be alone
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without telling me
you wanna be alone.
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I just needed to focus.
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Yeah, focus on your old cases?
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I've got it narrowed down.
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- Based on what?
- Motive and recent releases.
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Here's Robert Watson.
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He was a fire escape peeping Tom
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we collared few weeks ago
for the third time.
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Somehow he made bail.
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Michael Simmons, a rapist
who was escalating
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when I arrested him
ten years ago.
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He was released last month.
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Then we got Bruce Ingram.
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He threatened to kill Carisi
after his arraignment.
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Um, he was just found
not guilty at trial.
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Yeah, I remember him.
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He had a bogus alibi.
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But then DNA exonerated him
in the final hour.
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Could still hold a grudge,
so I figured I'll run 'em down,
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rule 'em out with their voices.
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Yeah, okay, so, we knew
that the review of the shooting
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would come back clean.
- Yeah.
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But you still need
to clear psych.
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Yeah, but look, Bruno's out,
you know, for a funeral.
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We're down a man,
so I just figured...
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You figured... figured what?
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You figured I'd just
let you skip that part?
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No, that's... that's...
it's just not good for anyone.
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Plus, Tynan, is expediting your appointment.
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- Great.
- Yeah.
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All right, so the quicker
it's done, the better.
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Yeah, the quicker you talk
to someone, the better.
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Because, if you don't,
it'll only get worse.
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In the meantime,
I'll have Curry and Griffin...
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Pay these three a visit.
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Talk to my attorney.
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Not the best way to start,
Bruce.
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But they found me not guilty.
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Can't you people
just leave me alone?
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This isn't about that case.
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It's about Assistant
District Attorney Carisi.
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- Never heard of him.
- No?
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Well, he's the prosecutor
that you threatened to kill
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after your arraignment.
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Or does that not ring any bells?
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What about him?
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He and his wife were attacked
last night.
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It's got nothing to do with me.
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So threatening to kill him
was what, a hilarious joke?
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I was mad.
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Cops accused me
of hurting that girl.
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That prosecutor tried
to seal the deal.
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He ruined my life.
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Sounds like motive.
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You already got my DNA.
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Yeah, we do.
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But if you want me out
of your hair faster,
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give me a voice recording
and an alibi.
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I was here working.
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And I did my time.
Don't I get a second chance?
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Yeah, looks like
you're living it.
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Only place that would hire me.
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It's better than being locked
up like some caged animal.
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Well, ten years, oof,
it's a long time.
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Maybe long enough to want
Sergeant Rollins dead.
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She's dead?
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No, but someone tried.
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And it looks like that
doesn't surprise you.
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I didn't do it.
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But you hear things
on the inside.
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I'm not the only one
she put away.
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Anyone who's capable
of doing this?
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None I'd be willing to say.
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Hey.
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You like being out
of the cage, right?
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Let's keep it that way.
Give me names and your voice.
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Shoot, and Counselor Carisi
dies, Sergeant Rollins.
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- It's not them.
- Are you sure?
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No, I'm positive.
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Anything on the names
that Simmons gave us?
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Griffin checked them out.
They're all still in prison.
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Okay, and did we talk
to Robert Watson?
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Talked to his parole officer.
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Watson was in Central Booking
at the time of the attack.
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Still nothing on the blue Honda?
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Not yet.
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I mean, my guess is,
they either ditched it
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or they're laying low somewhere.
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Or they uncovered the plates
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and they're halfway
to the Midwest right now
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and we are back to square one.
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- Okay.
- Yeah.
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Perp's blood came back
from the lab.
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Matched an attempted murder
from a week ago in Brooklyn.
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Vic's name, Diana Vitale, 62.
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Neighbor found her tied up
with a cord.
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Multiple stab wounds...
- Wait, I know that name.
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Diana Vitale.
She's a court reporter.
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She's retired now,
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but she worked a lot of trials
with Carisi.
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00:11:32,333 --> 00:11:33,918
Brooklyn Homicide get any leads?
262
00:11:34,002 --> 00:11:35,336
Not yet, no.
But Vitale survived.
263
00:11:35,420 --> 00:11:36,337
She's still in the hospital.
264
00:11:36,421 --> 00:11:37,463
Great, I'll talk to her.
265
00:11:37,547 --> 00:11:39,090
I can...
266
00:11:39,132 --> 00:11:42,343
Amanda, you still need
to get to your psych eval.
267
00:11:42,427 --> 00:11:44,596
You gotta do it.
- Yeah.
268
00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,431
Thanks.
269
00:11:49,976 --> 00:11:51,978
Diana Vitale.
270
00:11:52,103 --> 00:11:54,147
A stab in the back
that led to paralysis.
271
00:11:54,189 --> 00:11:56,399
Two more to the abdomen, one
of which punctured her stomach.
272
00:11:56,524 --> 00:11:58,776
Led to sepsis
we couldn't control.
273
00:11:58,860 --> 00:12:00,778
She was one of yours?
274
00:12:00,862 --> 00:12:02,697
She is now.
275
00:12:09,832 --> 00:12:10,750
Ready, Amanda?
276
00:12:15,166 --> 00:12:16,631
You come out of retirement
just for me?
277
00:12:18,174 --> 00:12:20,218
I still fill in
from time to time,
278
00:12:20,259 --> 00:12:22,887
especially at Olivia's request.
279
00:12:29,894 --> 00:12:32,647
Yeah, so I'm sleeping fine.
280
00:12:32,730 --> 00:12:34,607
There's no insomnia,
no nightmares.
281
00:12:34,732 --> 00:12:36,776
Any re-experiencing?
282
00:12:36,901 --> 00:12:39,195
- A little.
- What crosses your mind?
283
00:12:39,278 --> 00:12:41,113
What I would have
done differently.
284
00:12:41,197 --> 00:12:43,157
What... what...
285
00:12:43,241 --> 00:12:46,494
could have happened
if my kids were home.
286
00:12:46,577 --> 00:12:48,329
When you go to that place,
how do you feel?
287
00:12:48,412 --> 00:12:50,039
Angry.
288
00:12:53,167 --> 00:12:54,669
Powerless.
289
00:12:54,794 --> 00:12:58,297
But after that, um,
you know, I feel focused.
290
00:12:58,422 --> 00:12:59,841
So I've heard.
291
00:12:59,966 --> 00:13:02,552
Benson tells me
you've hit the ground running.
292
00:13:02,593 --> 00:13:03,928
What else does she tell you?
293
00:13:03,970 --> 00:13:08,724
She told me
you returned recently to SVU.
294
00:13:08,808 --> 00:13:13,187
Before that, a stint at Intel,
professor at Fordham.
295
00:13:13,271 --> 00:13:15,731
You like to move around.
296
00:13:15,857 --> 00:13:17,150
I don't see how that's relevant.
297
00:13:20,862 --> 00:13:22,822
I'm not trying to trick you,
Amanda.
298
00:13:22,905 --> 00:13:24,073
You and I both know
299
00:13:24,157 --> 00:13:25,491
that you'll come up
with a good answer
300
00:13:25,616 --> 00:13:27,243
for every question
that I ask you,
301
00:13:27,285 --> 00:13:30,037
but what you should also know
is that all I want out of this
302
00:13:30,121 --> 00:13:32,999
is for you to be honest.
303
00:13:33,082 --> 00:13:37,879
So why don't you like
to stay put?
304
00:13:39,964 --> 00:13:43,926
I guess it comes
from how I grew up.
305
00:13:44,051 --> 00:13:46,971
Abusive father, addicted sister.
306
00:13:47,054 --> 00:13:49,932
That must be a very
unsettling way to grow up.
307
00:13:50,016 --> 00:13:54,020
Yeah, you're always waiting
for the shoe to drop.
308
00:13:54,103 --> 00:13:59,275
And you're always
braced for impact.
309
00:13:59,358 --> 00:14:01,277
I got out of there
as quick as I could.
310
00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,823
Still, it couldn't
have been easy.
311
00:14:05,907 --> 00:14:09,619
Must have felt like you had
no control over your life.
312
00:14:09,660 --> 00:14:11,037
Like you were powerless.
313
00:14:14,207 --> 00:14:16,417
Yeah.
314
00:14:16,542 --> 00:14:20,588
It's easy to equate movement
with survival.
315
00:14:20,713 --> 00:14:22,798
Evolutionarily, it makes sense.
316
00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,801
Motion has always meant life.
317
00:14:24,884 --> 00:14:29,514
If you stay still,
you get left behind.
318
00:14:29,597 --> 00:14:31,933
I guess I don't like
being still, then.
319
00:14:33,267 --> 00:14:36,020
Then I'd like to give you
a little advice.
320
00:14:36,062 --> 00:14:39,065
After I clear you
and you return to the field
321
00:14:39,190 --> 00:14:41,108
and you find the man
who did this,
322
00:14:41,234 --> 00:14:46,572
what I would like for you
to do is to slow down.
323
00:14:54,539 --> 00:14:56,833
What else do we know
about Diana Vitale?
324
00:14:56,874 --> 00:14:58,709
Not much... retired last year,
325
00:14:58,835 --> 00:15:00,545
widowed, no kids,
no known enemies.
326
00:15:00,670 --> 00:15:02,380
Aside from the
dozens of scumbags
327
00:15:02,505 --> 00:15:04,674
she reported on the court
she shared with Carisi.
328
00:15:04,757 --> 00:15:06,175
And me.
329
00:15:06,217 --> 00:15:07,510
So there's 82 cases where.
330
00:15:07,635 --> 00:15:09,804
Vitale, Carisi, and I intersect.
331
00:15:09,929 --> 00:15:11,764
- Okay, any stick out?
- I'm narrowing it down,
332
00:15:11,806 --> 00:15:13,975
but I opened it up to ViCAP
and I got a hit in Queens.
333
00:15:14,100 --> 00:15:15,393
Julia Pratt, all right?
334
00:15:15,476 --> 00:15:17,520
She, um, she's 20.
335
00:15:17,603 --> 00:15:19,105
Same MO...
the break in and wait.
336
00:15:19,230 --> 00:15:20,398
She was tied up
with the black cord
337
00:15:20,439 --> 00:15:22,400
and she was murdered
in her apartment building
338
00:15:22,483 --> 00:15:23,943
with a knife two weeks ago.
339
00:15:24,068 --> 00:15:25,444
Any connection
to law enforcement?
340
00:15:25,528 --> 00:15:27,530
Not in ViCAP, but her sister
Rose is in Astoria.
341
00:15:27,655 --> 00:15:28,906
She might be able
to tell us more.
342
00:15:28,990 --> 00:15:31,534
Okay, you two
stay on Diana Vitale.
343
00:15:31,659 --> 00:15:34,036
Phones, emails.
See what you can dig up.
344
00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,288
Okay.
345
00:15:36,914 --> 00:15:39,041
How'd it go with Wong?
346
00:15:39,125 --> 00:15:40,543
- Fine. He cleared me.
- Yeah, I know.
347
00:15:40,585 --> 00:15:43,379
He... I talked to him.
348
00:15:43,421 --> 00:15:45,339
You checking up on me?
349
00:15:45,381 --> 00:15:47,091
Yes, Amanda, I am.
350
00:15:47,175 --> 00:15:50,428
The same way you would do
if it were me.
351
00:15:50,511 --> 00:15:52,054
Captain.
352
00:15:52,180 --> 00:15:54,015
Dispatch called about
a white male at an urgent care.
353
00:15:54,140 --> 00:15:56,559
Nurse said it's a gunshot
wound, left shoulder.
354
00:15:56,684 --> 00:15:59,103
Change of plan.
Head to the urgent care.
355
00:16:03,483 --> 00:16:08,112
He came in dodgy, aggressive
with my receptionist.
356
00:16:08,196 --> 00:16:09,572
And what'd he say
had happened to him?
357
00:16:09,655 --> 00:16:10,948
Said he was
working construction.
358
00:16:10,990 --> 00:16:12,992
Said someone clipped him
with a nail gun,
359
00:16:13,075 --> 00:16:16,162
but I took one look at it and
I knew that it was a bullet.
360
00:16:16,287 --> 00:16:17,371
They tried to cut it out
themselves.
361
00:16:17,497 --> 00:16:18,831
They tried to clean it.
362
00:16:18,956 --> 00:16:20,791
- Who is they?
- He was with a woman.
363
00:16:20,875 --> 00:16:23,419
White, brown hair.
She looked strung out.
364
00:16:23,503 --> 00:16:25,046
Okay.
365
00:16:25,087 --> 00:16:27,298
We are gonna need the
footage from those cameras.
366
00:16:27,423 --> 00:16:29,926
They don't work,
but I did see them drive off.
367
00:16:30,051 --> 00:16:32,512
- Blue Honda?
- Yeah.
368
00:16:32,595 --> 00:16:34,514
Caught the first few digits
of the license plate.
369
00:16:37,642 --> 00:16:41,187
My sister lit up every room
she walked into.
370
00:16:41,229 --> 00:16:43,856
I still can't understand
who would wanna hurt her.
371
00:16:43,940 --> 00:16:45,691
I'm so sorry, Rose.
372
00:16:45,733 --> 00:16:48,736
We just have a few more
questions for you, okay?
373
00:16:48,861 --> 00:16:52,532
So we understand that
Julia worked in fashion.
374
00:16:52,657 --> 00:16:54,450
Is that right?
375
00:16:54,534 --> 00:16:56,410
She went to FIT.
376
00:16:56,452 --> 00:17:00,039
Her internship gave her a job
after she graduated.
377
00:17:00,122 --> 00:17:03,334
Was there ever a time that
she explored law enforcement?
378
00:17:03,417 --> 00:17:05,002
Law enforcement?
379
00:17:05,086 --> 00:17:06,504
No.
380
00:17:06,629 --> 00:17:07,797
Why?
381
00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:09,757
Because the man who hurt her
382
00:17:09,882 --> 00:17:12,301
may have been
targeting the justice system
383
00:17:12,343 --> 00:17:13,511
and we're trying to figure out
384
00:17:13,636 --> 00:17:18,432
if Julia had
some other connection to it.
385
00:17:18,516 --> 00:17:20,810
Our aunt is a judge.
386
00:17:22,395 --> 00:17:25,148
She took us in
after our mom walked out,
387
00:17:25,231 --> 00:17:29,068
became our legal guardian,
retired to Florida in May.
388
00:17:31,112 --> 00:17:34,490
Your... your aunt is
Judge Anita Wright?
389
00:17:36,659 --> 00:17:38,494
Diana Vitale, me, and Carisi,
390
00:17:38,536 --> 00:17:40,371
there's 82 overlapping cases,
391
00:17:40,454 --> 00:17:42,415
but only 5 including
Judge Anita Wright.
392
00:17:42,540 --> 00:17:43,499
So it could have
been the defendant
393
00:17:43,624 --> 00:17:44,750
in any one of those cases.
394
00:17:44,834 --> 00:17:47,920
No, no, I know who it is.
395
00:17:48,004 --> 00:17:49,297
Henry Mesner.
396
00:17:49,380 --> 00:17:51,340
We first encountered him
in 2013.
397
00:17:51,424 --> 00:17:53,134
He was abusing
his little sister, Ruby.
398
00:17:53,217 --> 00:17:57,013
Yeah, so he was released from
juvenile detention in 2021.
399
00:17:57,096 --> 00:17:58,848
He got out, he raped
a college student,
400
00:17:58,973 --> 00:18:01,142
and then he murdered his family.
401
00:18:01,225 --> 00:18:02,560
Yeah, I remember this case.
402
00:18:02,685 --> 00:18:04,937
Rollins saved his sister
after he took her hostage.
403
00:18:04,979 --> 00:18:07,273
And after we arrested Henry,
he stabbed Carisi
404
00:18:07,398 --> 00:18:08,858
in a competency hearing.
405
00:18:08,941 --> 00:18:10,359
This guy's not still just
walking around out there?
406
00:18:10,401 --> 00:18:12,028
No, no, no. He stood trial.
407
00:18:12,069 --> 00:18:14,280
He's 5 years into 60
at Sing Sing.
408
00:18:14,363 --> 00:18:16,449
But that doesn't mean he's
not still pulling the strings.
409
00:18:16,491 --> 00:18:19,494
And to find out how,
we need to go talk to him.
410
00:18:19,577 --> 00:18:21,537
Maybe not.
411
00:18:21,621 --> 00:18:23,915
TARU found the blue Honda
based on the partial plate.
412
00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,292
It belongs to an 18-year-old
413
00:18:26,417 --> 00:18:28,127
with a rap sheet
for drug possession.
414
00:18:28,252 --> 00:18:30,213
We know her?
415
00:18:33,299 --> 00:18:37,303
- That...
- That's Henry's sister.
416
00:18:37,386 --> 00:18:39,222
That's Ruby Mesner.
417
00:18:43,981 --> 00:18:44,982
Our son moved to California.
418
00:18:45,806 --> 00:18:48,434
That's when we got
the idea to foster.
419
00:18:48,895 --> 00:18:52,281
Ruby was placed with us
five years ago.
420
00:18:52,691 --> 00:18:54,249
She hardly spoke at first.
421
00:18:54,725 --> 00:18:56,393
But she had what she needed...
422
00:18:56,477 --> 00:18:58,437
a bed, food.
423
00:18:58,562 --> 00:19:00,231
We tried to love her.
424
00:19:00,356 --> 00:19:02,358
We thought she'd be okay
for a while, beat the odds.
425
00:19:02,399 --> 00:19:05,319
And then she started
having problems?
426
00:19:05,402 --> 00:19:07,446
School called every other day.
427
00:19:07,529 --> 00:19:09,698
Grades slipping, running away,
428
00:19:09,782 --> 00:19:11,283
kept finding pills
under her mattress.
429
00:19:11,367 --> 00:19:13,077
We called her social worker,
430
00:19:13,118 --> 00:19:15,996
and they put her into rehab
for a month.
431
00:19:16,038 --> 00:19:18,040
But things only got worse.
432
00:19:18,207 --> 00:19:21,835
Was... was Ruby
ever, violent?
433
00:19:21,961 --> 00:19:23,754
Only with herself.
434
00:19:23,796 --> 00:19:27,675
She cut her arms so deep,
it was just awful.
435
00:19:27,841 --> 00:19:31,470
After Ruby turned 18,
got herself arrested for drugs.
436
00:19:31,554 --> 00:19:33,806
That was enough.
437
00:19:33,847 --> 00:19:37,184
I told her she had to leave,
and I'm not sorry I did.
438
00:19:37,226 --> 00:19:39,019
It was the right thing.
439
00:19:41,313 --> 00:19:44,191
Do you have any idea
where she might be
440
00:19:44,275 --> 00:19:46,443
or who she might be with?
441
00:19:46,569 --> 00:19:47,736
My guess is with her boyfriend.
442
00:19:47,820 --> 00:19:49,071
What's his name?
443
00:19:49,113 --> 00:19:51,407
Phillip something.
We never met him.
444
00:19:51,490 --> 00:19:52,992
She was with him
445
00:19:53,075 --> 00:19:55,160
when she called begging
for money a few weeks ago.
446
00:19:55,244 --> 00:19:56,871
Heard her talking to him.
447
00:19:56,912 --> 00:19:58,289
The number we have for Ruby
traces back to this address,
448
00:19:58,372 --> 00:19:59,707
but it went dead months ago.
449
00:19:59,790 --> 00:20:01,959
It wasn't her phone
she called from.
450
00:20:02,084 --> 00:20:05,838
We still have the number.
I... I tried it a few times.
451
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,508
Ruby never picks up.
452
00:20:09,592 --> 00:20:12,136
TARU is looking into this
number that Ruby called from.
453
00:20:12,261 --> 00:20:13,220
Hopefully,
it'll tell us something
454
00:20:13,262 --> 00:20:15,139
about whoever this Phillip is.
455
00:20:15,222 --> 00:20:17,308
It won't tell us
about his connection to Henry.
456
00:20:17,474 --> 00:20:19,184
We should be headed
to Sing Sing right now.
457
00:20:19,226 --> 00:20:21,103
Yeah, so Amanda, I haven't
made a decision about
458
00:20:21,186 --> 00:20:23,480
whether talking to Henry
is the best idea.
459
00:20:23,564 --> 00:20:25,691
Well, that's all we have.
460
00:20:25,774 --> 00:20:27,818
Besides this phone number.
461
00:20:27,902 --> 00:20:29,528
And we don't know if
the killing spree is over yet.
462
00:20:29,612 --> 00:20:31,071
But we do know Henry.
463
00:20:31,155 --> 00:20:32,656
And we know that
he'd love nothing more
464
00:20:32,823 --> 00:20:35,701
than to string us along
and play games
465
00:20:35,784 --> 00:20:37,411
whether he knows something
or not.
466
00:20:37,453 --> 00:20:40,497
It's no coincidence that his
sister is the getaway driver.
467
00:20:40,664 --> 00:20:42,917
And Henry can play games
all he wants,
468
00:20:43,042 --> 00:20:44,376
but if he knows something,
469
00:20:44,501 --> 00:20:46,337
I'll be able to tell
just by looking at him.
470
00:20:46,420 --> 00:20:48,714
I know you would.
471
00:20:48,797 --> 00:20:50,007
But I would too.
472
00:20:53,385 --> 00:20:56,347
And I'll be going to Sing Sing
myself.
473
00:21:00,476 --> 00:21:02,353
Henry hasn't
caused any problems.
474
00:21:02,436 --> 00:21:03,938
Was he close with anyone?
475
00:21:04,104 --> 00:21:06,732
Maybe a guard or an inmate
who's been released recently?
476
00:21:06,857 --> 00:21:08,234
Not that I know of.
477
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:09,735
Have a seat.
478
00:21:09,818 --> 00:21:11,237
- Thank you.
- Yeah.
479
00:21:11,362 --> 00:21:13,405
And what about his
communication with the outside?
480
00:21:13,447 --> 00:21:15,282
Nothing in his incoming mail
to alert our staff.
481
00:21:15,449 --> 00:21:17,409
And nothing outgoing.
482
00:21:17,493 --> 00:21:20,871
So he hasn't made any calls
lately or had any visitors?
483
00:21:20,996 --> 00:21:22,498
No.
484
00:21:22,581 --> 00:21:25,918
His last visit was a year ago...
his sister, Ruby Mesner.
485
00:21:26,001 --> 00:21:28,671
Well, you know what
they talked about?
486
00:21:28,754 --> 00:21:32,091
No, there's not much
in the transcript.
487
00:21:32,174 --> 00:21:34,552
The guards had to pull her
out of the room pretty quick.
488
00:21:34,677 --> 00:21:35,928
Why is that?
489
00:21:36,011 --> 00:21:37,846
Because she tried to attack him.
490
00:21:53,445 --> 00:21:55,072
Have a seat, Henry.
491
00:21:58,075 --> 00:22:01,412
You look happy to see me.
492
00:22:01,495 --> 00:22:03,956
It's been a long time
since I had any visitors.
493
00:22:04,039 --> 00:22:07,543
Well, I heard that you've
actually adjusted quite well.
494
00:22:07,626 --> 00:22:11,672
No disciplinary measures,
no issues with other inmates.
495
00:22:11,839 --> 00:22:14,341
I'll probably die in here.
496
00:22:14,425 --> 00:22:16,093
Shouldn't I be
making the most of it?
497
00:22:16,176 --> 00:22:21,348
Well, that depends on
what that means to you.
498
00:22:21,473 --> 00:22:23,851
I think it means reform,
499
00:22:23,934 --> 00:22:26,395
rehabilitation, responsibility.
500
00:22:26,562 --> 00:22:27,938
For what you did to your family.
501
00:22:30,065 --> 00:22:32,526
For what you did to Ruby.
502
00:22:32,651 --> 00:22:36,697
I heard that she actually
came to visit you a while back.
503
00:22:36,780 --> 00:22:41,869
And, things got a little,
little dicey?
504
00:22:41,952 --> 00:22:45,456
I don't think you came here
about my sister.
505
00:22:45,581 --> 00:22:47,291
I think you're here
about something else.
506
00:22:51,545 --> 00:22:54,256
Why do you think I'm here?
507
00:22:54,298 --> 00:22:56,675
Gotta say,
508
00:22:56,717 --> 00:22:59,053
I'm surprised that you're
the one coming to see me.
509
00:22:59,094 --> 00:23:01,513
Were you expecting someone else?
510
00:23:01,639 --> 00:23:04,058
Always had a soft spot
for Detective Rollins.
511
00:23:04,099 --> 00:23:05,643
Yeah, I remember that.
512
00:23:05,809 --> 00:23:08,854
Well, she's actually
a sergeant now.
513
00:23:08,896 --> 00:23:10,564
Good for her.
514
00:23:10,606 --> 00:23:12,191
And I heard she's married.
515
00:23:12,233 --> 00:23:13,108
To what's-his-name?
516
00:23:13,192 --> 00:23:16,820
Lawyer Carisi.
517
00:23:16,904 --> 00:23:18,072
Tell them both I said hello.
518
00:23:18,155 --> 00:23:21,116
I will.
519
00:23:21,158 --> 00:23:23,869
After I tell them
that I was right.
520
00:23:23,911 --> 00:23:25,037
Right about what?
521
00:23:27,540 --> 00:23:29,667
That talking to you was
a waste of time.
522
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,340
Maybe I'm just talking
to the wrong person.
523
00:23:36,382 --> 00:23:37,716
You know, if Sergeant Rollins
was here...
524
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,885
I'm not here to negotiate,
Henry.
525
00:23:39,969 --> 00:23:42,805
Well, then I guess we're
both walking away empty-handed.
526
00:23:42,972 --> 00:23:44,181
You wanna know what I think?
527
00:23:45,849 --> 00:23:49,186
I think you got nothing to say.
528
00:23:53,357 --> 00:23:55,150
Goodbye, Henry.
529
00:24:03,993 --> 00:24:05,828
Hey, was just in
the neighborhood.
530
00:24:05,911 --> 00:24:08,747
I had to, um...
had to pick up some stuff.
531
00:24:08,789 --> 00:24:10,040
Yeah?
532
00:24:10,124 --> 00:24:11,458
What stuff?
533
00:24:11,542 --> 00:24:12,626
All right. Sue me.
534
00:24:12,668 --> 00:24:13,961
Look, I'm just
checking in on you.
535
00:24:15,588 --> 00:24:17,298
Listen, this, this Henry Mesner thing.
536
00:24:17,381 --> 00:24:18,924
Yeah.
Benson thinks he's bluffing.
537
00:24:19,049 --> 00:24:20,301
She won't let me go in.
538
00:24:20,384 --> 00:24:21,844
Yeah, well,
maybe she's got a point.
539
00:24:21,886 --> 00:24:23,095
Look, at best, he's full of it.
540
00:24:23,262 --> 00:24:25,723
At worst, he's... he's not.
He could be dangerous.
541
00:24:25,806 --> 00:24:28,100
Are you saying that
as the ADA or as my husband?
542
00:24:28,183 --> 00:24:29,226
I'm saying it as both.
543
00:24:29,351 --> 00:24:31,103
Okay, I appreciate it,
but right now,
544
00:24:31,145 --> 00:24:33,022
me going in to talk to Henry
might be the only way
545
00:24:33,105 --> 00:24:34,064
we catch the guy that
did this to us.
546
00:24:35,649 --> 00:24:37,234
What is it?
547
00:24:37,318 --> 00:24:39,570
TARU traced the number that
Ruby missed her call from.
548
00:24:39,612 --> 00:24:42,656
A Phillip Wingate.
We've got an address.
549
00:24:44,909 --> 00:24:46,702
Go, go, go, go!
550
00:24:46,785 --> 00:24:49,121
Phillip Wingate, NYPD!
We have a warrant!
551
00:24:51,665 --> 00:24:52,666
Pushing up!
552
00:25:03,010 --> 00:25:04,720
- Clear.
- Clear!
553
00:25:32,748 --> 00:25:34,083
Hey.
554
00:25:36,669 --> 00:25:37,711
These are the names
of the victims.
555
00:25:37,795 --> 00:25:39,630
Yeah.
556
00:25:39,713 --> 00:25:42,508
Public court records on Henry's
cases, news articles about him.
557
00:25:42,633 --> 00:25:43,717
Got movement upstairs.
558
00:25:43,801 --> 00:25:46,136
Bedroom door. Ready to breach.
559
00:25:53,185 --> 00:25:54,728
NYPD, coming in.
560
00:26:01,902 --> 00:26:03,904
Okay. Okay.
561
00:26:08,450 --> 00:26:09,994
Ruby?
562
00:26:14,399 --> 00:26:15,775
Ruby, where is Phillip?
563
00:26:31,957 --> 00:26:34,618
Phillip Wingate, 28,
parents are deceased
564
00:26:34,643 --> 00:26:36,571
and he's lived with his
grandmother since he was three.
565
00:26:36,611 --> 00:26:37,821
Spotty employment records.
566
00:26:37,846 --> 00:26:39,973
He was fired from
his last job six months ago
567
00:26:40,023 --> 00:26:41,358
right around the time
his grandma died
568
00:26:41,383 --> 00:26:42,550
and left him the townhouse.
569
00:26:42,575 --> 00:26:43,875
No criminal record.
570
00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:46,571
Only juvenile, which is why
his DNA wasn't in the system.
571
00:26:46,835 --> 00:26:49,213
When Phillip was 12,
he abused a younger cousin.
572
00:26:49,299 --> 00:26:52,469
Guy had a thing for hunting
squirrels in Central Park.
573
00:26:52,774 --> 00:26:54,317
Checks all the boxes.
574
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,194
So what did we learn
from these journals?
575
00:26:56,236 --> 00:26:58,696
Yeah, guy is very prolific.
576
00:26:58,822 --> 00:27:02,075
He writes his victims' names
over and over and over again
577
00:27:02,158 --> 00:27:04,786
with what seems like either
poetry or gibberish.
578
00:27:04,869 --> 00:27:06,037
And a lot of writing
about Henry.
579
00:27:06,162 --> 00:27:07,622
I mean, he's obviously obsessed.
580
00:27:07,705 --> 00:27:09,707
But it doesn't explain
how they met
581
00:27:09,791 --> 00:27:11,251
or whether Henry
put Phillip up to this.
582
00:27:11,376 --> 00:27:12,669
And nothing that indicates
583
00:27:12,752 --> 00:27:14,712
where he is now
or where he's headed next.
584
00:27:14,796 --> 00:27:15,922
There's over a dozen
of these things
585
00:27:16,047 --> 00:27:17,048
we're still sorting through.
586
00:27:17,090 --> 00:27:19,717
I say we just ask her.
587
00:27:34,107 --> 00:27:35,525
I know you.
588
00:27:35,650 --> 00:27:37,569
Yeah, you do.
589
00:27:37,694 --> 00:27:39,154
We helped you out
a long time ago,
590
00:27:39,195 --> 00:27:40,738
and we might be able
to help you out now
591
00:27:40,864 --> 00:27:42,740
if you're willing to talk to us.
592
00:27:42,866 --> 00:27:43,700
I don't know where Phillip is.
593
00:27:43,825 --> 00:27:45,702
Yeah, but you do know
594
00:27:45,785 --> 00:27:49,080
how this whole thing started,
don't you, Ruby?
595
00:27:49,122 --> 00:27:51,624
We spoke with your
foster parents.
596
00:27:51,749 --> 00:27:53,668
They don't care about me.
597
00:27:53,751 --> 00:27:56,671
I think they tried to.
598
00:27:56,796 --> 00:27:59,924
But look, after everything
that you've gone through,
599
00:28:00,008 --> 00:28:01,634
I certainly understand
how it feels,
600
00:28:01,718 --> 00:28:06,014
like nobody cares,
but that's not true.
601
00:28:06,097 --> 00:28:09,684
We care.
And we'd like to help you.
602
00:28:09,726 --> 00:28:11,770
But we need for you
to be honest with us
603
00:28:11,853 --> 00:28:13,062
for us to do that.
604
00:28:13,104 --> 00:28:16,107
Can you do that?
605
00:28:16,191 --> 00:28:19,861
So why don't you
tell us about Phillip?
606
00:28:19,986 --> 00:28:21,988
How did you two meet?
607
00:28:22,030 --> 00:28:26,326
He found me a few months ago.
608
00:28:26,367 --> 00:28:28,077
He said he wanted
to take care of me.
609
00:28:29,496 --> 00:28:32,123
At first, it was fine.
610
00:28:32,207 --> 00:28:35,627
He didn't really want
anything from me.
611
00:28:35,752 --> 00:28:37,212
Until he started
asking questions.
612
00:28:37,337 --> 00:28:39,422
About Henry?
613
00:28:39,464 --> 00:28:41,257
Yeah.
614
00:28:41,382 --> 00:28:44,260
What he was like.
615
00:28:44,344 --> 00:28:45,970
How much I remember
from when he'd hurt me.
616
00:28:46,095 --> 00:28:48,223
Does Phillip know Henry?
617
00:28:48,348 --> 00:28:49,933
No.
618
00:28:50,058 --> 00:28:51,267
No, no.
619
00:28:51,351 --> 00:28:53,770
He... he said he heard about him
on a podcast
620
00:28:53,853 --> 00:28:56,064
or the news or something.
621
00:28:56,189 --> 00:28:57,816
Ruby, why is Phillip doing this?
622
00:28:57,899 --> 00:28:59,109
I don't know.
623
00:28:59,234 --> 00:29:01,402
He would just...
624
00:29:01,528 --> 00:29:03,279
he would say things
I didn't know what they meant.
625
00:29:03,363 --> 00:29:05,657
Well, what...
what kind of things?
626
00:29:05,740 --> 00:29:07,033
He was like...
627
00:29:07,158 --> 00:29:09,536
he was like,
in service of Henry.
628
00:29:09,619 --> 00:29:13,248
I don't... he was like,
wanted to be close to him.
629
00:29:13,331 --> 00:29:16,084
So that's... that's why
he sought you out?
630
00:29:18,503 --> 00:29:21,923
Once he did, I couldn't escape.
631
00:29:22,048 --> 00:29:24,968
So you just...
632
00:29:25,009 --> 00:29:26,136
went along with it?
633
00:29:29,639 --> 00:29:32,559
You waited while
he murdered those people,
634
00:29:32,684 --> 00:29:34,519
and you drove the getaway car?
635
00:29:34,602 --> 00:29:36,396
Phillip was gonna kill me.
What was I supposed to do?
636
00:29:36,438 --> 00:29:38,606
I don't know, go to the cops?
637
00:29:38,731 --> 00:29:39,816
Call us?
638
00:29:39,941 --> 00:29:42,068
Get out of there?
639
00:29:42,110 --> 00:29:45,697
And instead, you helped him
kill those people
640
00:29:45,780 --> 00:29:47,407
and come after me and my family.
641
00:29:47,449 --> 00:29:48,825
No, he just told me to drive.
642
00:29:48,950 --> 00:29:50,243
I didn't... I didn't know
what he was doing...
643
00:29:50,368 --> 00:29:51,953
Yeah, you don't know
a whole lot, do you, Ruby?
644
00:29:52,036 --> 00:29:53,496
Like... like where Phillip is.
You don't know that?
645
00:29:53,580 --> 00:29:54,622
- Sergeant.
- I was afraid!
646
00:29:54,706 --> 00:29:57,125
I don't believe you, Ruby.
647
00:29:57,250 --> 00:29:58,585
I don't.
648
00:29:58,710 --> 00:29:59,961
I think you're protecting
Phillip and your brother.
649
00:30:00,044 --> 00:30:01,921
Okay, Sergeant, that's enough...
650
00:30:02,046 --> 00:30:03,339
You know what?
I saved your life.
651
00:30:03,381 --> 00:30:04,924
I wish you didn't!
652
00:30:05,008 --> 00:30:06,176
So do I!
653
00:30:06,301 --> 00:30:08,636
Hey. We're done here.
654
00:30:08,761 --> 00:30:10,013
Rollins, now.
655
00:30:16,019 --> 00:30:17,103
Are you kidding me?
656
00:30:17,187 --> 00:30:18,313
- Yeah?
- What was that?
657
00:30:18,438 --> 00:30:19,689
You need to cool down.
658
00:30:19,731 --> 00:30:21,065
Cool down?
659
00:30:21,107 --> 00:30:22,233
We need her to talk!
660
00:30:22,358 --> 00:30:23,943
Yes, and in her current state,
661
00:30:24,068 --> 00:30:25,653
I'm not sure that
she can tell us...
662
00:30:25,737 --> 00:30:28,072
Who cares about
her current state?
663
00:30:28,156 --> 00:30:30,825
There's a murderer out there,
Liv, and she's involved!
664
00:30:30,909 --> 00:30:32,994
I care about her current
state, and so should you.
665
00:30:33,077 --> 00:30:34,746
After everything that that girl
has been through?
666
00:30:34,788 --> 00:30:36,247
Are you kidding me?
- She helped Phillip.
667
00:30:36,372 --> 00:30:37,665
And now we don't know
whether Henry's...
668
00:30:37,749 --> 00:30:39,334
Henry's behind him.
669
00:30:39,417 --> 00:30:42,337
Henry is playing us, and
she just about confirmed that.
670
00:30:42,462 --> 00:30:44,088
All that guy wants
is your attention.
671
00:30:44,130 --> 00:30:45,965
Yeah, well, he has it.
672
00:30:46,049 --> 00:30:47,509
You know, and I could use that
if you'd let me go talk to him.
673
00:30:47,634 --> 00:30:48,802
Because I'm trying
to protect you.
674
00:30:48,843 --> 00:30:51,054
I don't need your protection.
675
00:30:51,179 --> 00:30:52,972
I need you to trust me.
676
00:30:53,056 --> 00:30:54,307
Okay, that's not
what this is about.
677
00:30:54,432 --> 00:30:55,892
Then why did you
take me out of the room?
678
00:30:55,975 --> 00:30:58,228
Because you're not yourself.
679
00:30:58,353 --> 00:31:02,315
That girl needs our help,
not an interrogation.
680
00:31:02,398 --> 00:31:04,734
She's a victim
of both Henry and Phillip.
681
00:31:04,818 --> 00:31:06,194
And quite frankly, so are you.
682
00:31:06,319 --> 00:31:08,696
- My God.
- You never turn it off.
683
00:31:08,780 --> 00:31:10,323
What does that mean?
684
00:31:10,406 --> 00:31:12,450
It means not everyone
deserves your empathy, Olivia.
685
00:31:23,419 --> 00:31:26,589
I can't have you on
this case anymore, Amanda.
686
00:31:26,631 --> 00:31:27,674
You're off.
687
00:31:57,996 --> 00:31:59,122
Hello, Amanda.
688
00:32:06,182 --> 00:32:07,472
I had a feeling you'd come.
689
00:32:07,508 --> 00:32:09,885
You asked for me, didn't you?
690
00:32:10,361 --> 00:32:12,655
Do you remember
the last thing you said to me?
691
00:32:12,739 --> 00:32:14,032
I'm surprised if you do,
692
00:32:14,157 --> 00:32:16,242
considering how drugged up
you were.
693
00:32:16,326 --> 00:32:18,828
If you ever go after anyone
in my family again,
694
00:32:18,953 --> 00:32:20,955
it'll be your last day on Earth?
695
00:32:21,122 --> 00:32:23,124
Is that why you came?
696
00:32:23,208 --> 00:32:25,043
- To kill you?
- No.
697
00:32:25,168 --> 00:32:28,922
You can't do that until
you know it was me or not.
698
00:32:28,963 --> 00:32:31,716
I know who it is.
699
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,052
Why I'm here is
to see if you do.
700
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,310
You want to know
if I recognize them?
701
00:32:42,435 --> 00:32:43,645
No, I know you do.
702
00:32:43,728 --> 00:32:44,896
These are all people
that helped put you away.
703
00:32:45,021 --> 00:32:46,773
And the person who's
going after them, Henry,
704
00:32:46,856 --> 00:32:49,526
I gotta tell you,
they're pretty good at it.
705
00:32:51,027 --> 00:32:54,989
But this person is
smart, organized,
706
00:32:55,031 --> 00:32:57,409
like they're on a mission.
707
00:33:04,833 --> 00:33:07,335
It's your sister, Henry.
It's Ruby.
708
00:33:11,005 --> 00:33:13,675
Ruby didn't do any of this.
She's not capable.
709
00:33:13,717 --> 00:33:14,801
Are you sure about that?
710
00:33:14,843 --> 00:33:16,678
Are you dumb?
711
00:33:16,845 --> 00:33:17,887
She's weak, pathetic.
712
00:33:18,054 --> 00:33:19,889
She's a victim, always will be.
713
00:33:19,973 --> 00:33:21,683
Okay, thank you.
714
00:33:21,850 --> 00:33:25,895
W... what I meant to say was
715
00:33:25,937 --> 00:33:28,398
she couldn't have done it
by herself.
716
00:33:32,819 --> 00:33:34,863
She couldn't have known
how to hold the knife
717
00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:39,367
or what it would feel like
when you push it into someone.
718
00:33:39,492 --> 00:33:43,747
The soft belly, the bony throat.
719
00:33:43,913 --> 00:33:47,667
It's a very specific skill set.
720
00:33:47,709 --> 00:33:51,588
And who do we think
helped her navigate all that?
721
00:33:51,671 --> 00:33:54,466
Who had that...
that right set of skills?
722
00:33:54,507 --> 00:33:55,717
I did.
723
00:33:57,844 --> 00:34:00,430
It wasn't very hard.
724
00:34:00,472 --> 00:34:03,808
Guards are easy,
let me use their phones.
725
00:34:03,933 --> 00:34:05,435
I had a plan.
726
00:34:05,477 --> 00:34:07,437
I just needed someone
to help me carry it out.
727
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,981
You know, Ruby works best
being directed.
728
00:34:10,023 --> 00:34:12,901
No, Henry,
I think she did this alone.
729
00:34:12,984 --> 00:34:15,028
I think she broke into
these people's houses
730
00:34:15,195 --> 00:34:16,362
and she stabbed them to death
all by herself.
731
00:34:16,488 --> 00:34:18,281
She couldn't have
done anything without me.
732
00:34:18,323 --> 00:34:19,491
So you're the mastermind?
733
00:34:19,574 --> 00:34:21,493
Yes, I am.
734
00:34:27,665 --> 00:34:28,833
No, you're not.
735
00:34:31,795 --> 00:34:34,798
But you are pathetic.
736
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,929
And you got one thing right.
737
00:34:40,970 --> 00:34:42,972
Ruby didn't kill these people.
738
00:34:43,014 --> 00:34:44,265
A man named Phillip Wingate did.
739
00:34:44,391 --> 00:34:45,683
He's the mastermind,
740
00:34:45,725 --> 00:34:50,522
and you are
a cautionary tale at best.
741
00:34:51,856 --> 00:34:54,609
You're nothing.
742
00:34:54,651 --> 00:34:56,277
And now we both know it.
743
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,579
If I tell you what I know,
will you come back to see me?
744
00:35:06,705 --> 00:35:08,540
It's too late, Henry.
745
00:35:08,581 --> 00:35:10,375
Goodbye.
746
00:35:10,500 --> 00:35:11,751
I know him.
747
00:35:11,835 --> 00:35:14,421
I know of him, technically,
748
00:35:14,546 --> 00:35:16,589
and I can tell you about it
if you promise.
749
00:35:16,631 --> 00:35:19,300
And I mean really promise
to come back and see me
750
00:35:19,467 --> 00:35:21,469
every now and again.
751
00:35:24,639 --> 00:35:29,477
Yeah, if what you tell me
is actually helpful,
752
00:35:29,644 --> 00:35:33,189
I'll come visit you.
753
00:35:33,231 --> 00:35:34,816
I get a bunch of fan letters.
754
00:35:34,858 --> 00:35:37,318
Never read them, but...
755
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:42,490
I know a ton of them came from
someone who signed them as PW.
756
00:35:53,585 --> 00:35:57,255
Judge's niece, court reporter.
757
00:35:57,297 --> 00:36:00,759
Next I say hello to
the childhood doctor.
758
00:36:08,099 --> 00:36:10,393
Liv, Phillip is going
after the doctor
759
00:36:10,435 --> 00:36:12,187
that Henry saw
when he was a kid.
760
00:36:12,353 --> 00:36:15,440
He's going after Wong.
761
00:36:23,740 --> 00:36:25,825
He's already here.
762
00:36:25,867 --> 00:36:27,660
Okay, go, now.
763
00:36:33,708 --> 00:36:36,461
Go, go, go, go!
764
00:36:36,544 --> 00:36:38,922
- Clear!
- Move in.
765
00:36:39,005 --> 00:36:42,008
Wong, are you all right?
766
00:36:42,133 --> 00:36:44,219
You sure?
767
00:36:44,260 --> 00:36:45,720
Where'd he go?
768
00:36:45,845 --> 00:36:48,390
He... he heard the sirens
and he went out the back.
769
00:36:48,473 --> 00:36:50,225
Okay. Get an EMT in here now!
770
00:36:50,308 --> 00:36:52,102
All right, all units,
suspect is on foot.
771
00:36:52,143 --> 00:36:54,646
Back exit. I repeat, back exit.
772
00:37:02,070 --> 00:37:03,154
Stop right there!
773
00:37:22,966 --> 00:37:24,884
Hey!
774
00:37:25,502 --> 00:37:27,262
No getaway driver?
775
00:37:27,643 --> 00:37:28,680
'Cause you took her from me.
776
00:37:28,847 --> 00:37:29,931
She was never yours
to begin with.
777
00:37:30,268 --> 00:37:31,558
Drop the knife.
778
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:33,059
You're under arrest.
779
00:37:33,101 --> 00:37:35,770
But I already got what
I wanted, Sergeant Rollins.
780
00:37:35,937 --> 00:37:38,356
For Henry to see me.
781
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,275
I saw Henry.
782
00:37:40,358 --> 00:37:43,862
He didn't even know who
you were until we told him.
783
00:37:46,030 --> 00:37:48,366
Those letters?
He never read 'em.
784
00:37:56,624 --> 00:37:57,584
Don't do it!
785
00:38:02,047 --> 00:38:03,548
- Cover!
- Shots fired!
786
00:38:11,765 --> 00:38:16,936
He can't hurt anyone anymore,
including you.
787
00:38:16,978 --> 00:38:18,688
What happens now?
788
00:38:18,772 --> 00:38:19,939
Given the circumstances,
789
00:38:20,023 --> 00:38:21,649
the DA's willing
to make you a deal.
790
00:38:21,691 --> 00:38:22,692
Conspiracy in the third.
791
00:38:22,817 --> 00:38:24,194
You'll do five years' probation.
792
00:38:24,277 --> 00:38:26,071
The first year will
be inpatient rehab.
793
00:38:26,154 --> 00:38:27,947
But that deal only stands
794
00:38:27,989 --> 00:38:31,701
if you're willing to agree
to do something for us.
795
00:38:31,785 --> 00:38:34,954
The next time you're in...
796
00:38:34,996 --> 00:38:37,415
a bad situation,
797
00:38:37,499 --> 00:38:39,626
you call me.
798
00:38:39,709 --> 00:38:40,752
Why?
799
00:38:42,504 --> 00:38:44,422
Because I know what it's like
to feel stuck, Ruby.
800
00:38:44,464 --> 00:38:47,759
I know what it's like
to feel powerless.
801
00:38:47,884 --> 00:38:52,222
And the next time
you feel that way,
802
00:38:52,263 --> 00:38:55,433
I wanna be there
to help you with that.
803
00:39:11,950 --> 00:39:13,702
She's the one who helps her.
It's amazing.
804
00:39:13,743 --> 00:39:14,786
Hey, sorry to interrupt.
805
00:39:14,869 --> 00:39:15,870
I was just...
806
00:39:18,415 --> 00:39:20,166
Nosy, just nosy.
807
00:39:20,208 --> 00:39:21,668
How are you, Doctor?
808
00:39:21,835 --> 00:39:23,420
All right.
809
00:39:23,545 --> 00:39:25,880
Recommitting to retirement.
810
00:39:26,005 --> 00:39:27,924
- Yeah.
- How about you?
811
00:39:28,007 --> 00:39:30,552
You know, just, getting back to normal.
812
00:39:33,638 --> 00:39:36,599
Well, I'm grateful
for your insubordination,
813
00:39:36,766 --> 00:39:39,894
if that helps to break the ice.
814
00:39:43,064 --> 00:39:44,357
Does not.
815
00:39:44,441 --> 00:39:46,067
Hey.
816
00:39:46,192 --> 00:39:48,027
Thank you.
- Of course.
817
00:39:48,194 --> 00:39:49,028
Talk soon?
818
00:39:49,154 --> 00:39:50,488
Yep, talk soon.
819
00:39:50,613 --> 00:39:52,741
Amanda, be well.
820
00:39:52,824 --> 00:39:54,075
Thanks.
821
00:39:57,662 --> 00:39:59,330
Liv, I just wanna say...
822
00:39:59,497 --> 00:40:02,250
Don't... don't apologize
if you don't mean it.
823
00:40:03,668 --> 00:40:06,838
I'm...
824
00:40:06,963 --> 00:40:10,759
I'm sorry
I lost some of your trust.
825
00:40:13,845 --> 00:40:18,516
Look, I understand why
you did what you did.
826
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,312
The same way you understand
827
00:40:22,353 --> 00:40:25,190
that you will never do it again.
828
00:40:27,233 --> 00:40:28,401
All right.
829
00:40:28,485 --> 00:40:31,446
Deal.
830
00:40:31,488 --> 00:40:33,239
And hopefully,
that's the last time
831
00:40:33,364 --> 00:40:36,368
we'll ever have to think
about Henry Mesner again.
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