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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,139 --> 00:00:08,641 (dramatic music plays) 2 00:00:12,045 --> 00:00:13,680 Arliss: For most of us, 3 00:00:13,746 --> 00:00:15,915 the dream of becoming a champion, 4 00:00:15,982 --> 00:00:17,484 remains a fantasy... 5 00:00:18,751 --> 00:00:20,420 but for a special few, 6 00:00:20,487 --> 00:00:23,056 it is very much a reality. 7 00:00:23,122 --> 00:00:24,257 We cheer them. 8 00:00:24,324 --> 00:00:25,992 We live through them. 9 00:00:26,059 --> 00:00:28,962 Athletes are our last warriors. 10 00:00:29,028 --> 00:00:32,599 My job is to make their dreams come true. 11 00:00:32,665 --> 00:00:34,250 (water splashes) 12 00:00:34,251 --> 00:00:35,835 My name is Arliss Michaels. 13 00:00:35,902 --> 00:00:38,171 I represent athletes. 14 00:00:38,238 --> 00:00:39,639 These are my stories. 15 00:00:39,706 --> 00:00:43,309 ♪ Don't know what it is that makes me love you so ♪ 16 00:00:43,376 --> 00:00:46,546 ♪ I only know I never wanna let you go ♪ 17 00:00:46,613 --> 00:00:50,550 ♪ 'Cause you started something, oh, can't you see ♪ 18 00:00:50,617 --> 00:00:53,620 ♪ That ever since we met you had a hold on me? ♪ 19 00:00:53,686 --> 00:00:57,557 ♪ It happens to be true ♪ 20 00:00:57,624 --> 00:01:01,227 ♪ I only wanna be with you ♪ 21 00:01:01,294 --> 00:01:04,831 ♪ I just wanna be beside you everywhere ♪ 22 00:01:04,898 --> 00:01:08,668 ♪ As long as we're together, honey, I don't care ♪ 23 00:01:08,735 --> 00:01:11,671 ♪ 'Cause you started something, oh, can't you see ♪ 24 00:01:11,738 --> 00:01:15,141 ♪ That ever since we met you had a hold on me? ♪ 25 00:01:15,208 --> 00:01:19,312 ♪ No matter what you do ♪ 26 00:01:19,379 --> 00:01:22,849 ♪ I only wanna be with you ♪ 27 00:01:22,916 --> 00:01:23,950 ♪ It doesn't... ♪ 28 00:01:24,017 --> 00:01:25,685 (dramatic music plays) 29 00:01:26,953 --> 00:01:28,688 (Armen Keteyian narrates) 30 00:01:28,755 --> 00:01:30,835 and as the chairman of Arliss Michaels Management, 31 00:01:30,890 --> 00:01:33,893 he's one of the premier sports agents in America. 32 00:01:33,960 --> 00:01:36,496 The media would like to portray myself and all agents 33 00:01:36,563 --> 00:01:38,264 as these Machiavellian characters 34 00:01:38,331 --> 00:01:40,900 that can control... sports. 35 00:01:40,967 --> 00:01:42,569 But the reality is that 36 00:01:42,635 --> 00:01:45,104 we're only as good as our roster of clients, 37 00:01:45,171 --> 00:01:47,974 because not one team owner is paying dollar one 38 00:01:48,041 --> 00:01:49,342 for Arliss Michaels. 39 00:01:49,409 --> 00:01:51,477 They're paying for my clients. 40 00:01:51,544 --> 00:01:53,179 Armen: And what a collection he has. 41 00:01:53,246 --> 00:01:55,415 Jerry Rice, Barry Bonds, 42 00:01:55,481 --> 00:01:57,650 Shaquille O'Neal, Derek Jeter, 43 00:01:57,717 --> 00:01:59,118 and his newest client, 44 00:01:59,185 --> 00:02:03,089 last year's National League MVP, Victor Gonzalez. 45 00:02:03,156 --> 00:02:06,025 It's no wonder Arliss Michaels was the inspiration 46 00:02:06,092 --> 00:02:07,827 for director Cameron Crowe's film 47 00:02:07,894 --> 00:02:09,362 "Jerry Maguire." 48 00:02:09,429 --> 00:02:12,298 It's estimated that his clients are currently signed to contracts 49 00:02:12,365 --> 00:02:15,835 that total approximately a half a billion dollars, 50 00:02:15,902 --> 00:02:19,572 a market base that's not confined to the playing field. 51 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,541 Arliss Michaels has taken his clients 52 00:02:21,608 --> 00:02:24,344 and made the crossover into theatrical motion pictures. 53 00:02:24,410 --> 00:02:26,546 In fact, I've used a number of his clients myself. 54 00:02:26,613 --> 00:02:28,247 Armen: Ron Shelton, filmmaker. 55 00:02:28,314 --> 00:02:30,149 In fact, Arliss is producing for me 56 00:02:30,216 --> 00:02:31,994 a remake of "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs," 57 00:02:32,018 --> 00:02:34,954 this time the dwarfs being played by the dream team. 58 00:02:35,021 --> 00:02:37,290 Woman: Excuse me, Ron. Karl Malone, line one. 59 00:02:37,357 --> 00:02:39,459 Oh, there's "Grumpy" now, excuse me. 60 00:02:39,525 --> 00:02:42,362 So what drives Arliss Michaels? Is it fame, money? 61 00:02:42,428 --> 00:02:45,098 Well, all those things are nice, of course, 62 00:02:45,164 --> 00:02:46,804 but I think what gives me the biggest kick 63 00:02:46,866 --> 00:02:49,369 is the opportunity to work with talented young people, 64 00:02:49,435 --> 00:02:51,404 helping them to reach their potential 65 00:02:51,471 --> 00:02:53,306 by giving them good career advice. 66 00:02:53,373 --> 00:02:57,443 (machine gun firing) 67 00:02:57,510 --> 00:02:59,846 I'm telling you, the smart move is to quit high school 68 00:02:59,912 --> 00:03:01,247 and announce you're pro now. 69 00:03:01,314 --> 00:03:03,249 It's just too damn dangerous here these days. 70 00:03:03,316 --> 00:03:05,218 I mean, you're risking injury! Sign, sign! 71 00:03:05,284 --> 00:03:07,954 (boy shouts) Fuck the SAT's! Fuck the SAT's! 72 00:03:08,021 --> 00:03:09,622 Yeah, yeah, congratulations. 73 00:03:09,689 --> 00:03:11,491 - (gunfire continues) - Get down! 74 00:03:12,792 --> 00:03:14,460 What's the secret to your success? 75 00:03:15,561 --> 00:03:17,397 The first time I visited the White House, 76 00:03:17,463 --> 00:03:19,832 there was a sign in the oval office on Reagan's desk 77 00:03:19,899 --> 00:03:22,769 that read "There is no limit to what one can achieve 78 00:03:22,835 --> 00:03:25,738 as long as he is willing to give others the credit." 79 00:03:25,805 --> 00:03:27,206 I try to live by that. 80 00:03:27,273 --> 00:03:29,509 Remember, people, this interview is about me. 81 00:03:29,575 --> 00:03:31,044 - No, shit. - Oh, imagine that. 82 00:03:31,110 --> 00:03:33,188 Now, which suit do you think, the navy or the olive gabardine? 83 00:03:33,212 --> 00:03:35,624 - I look good in the navy. - Are you sure we're gonna be interviewed? 84 00:03:35,648 --> 00:03:38,351 (humphs) Probably not. We're only his minions. 85 00:03:38,418 --> 00:03:40,053 Of course you're gonna be interviewed, 86 00:03:40,119 --> 00:03:43,956 and when you are, you are to speak openly, honestly and sincerely. 87 00:03:44,023 --> 00:03:45,992 Now let's go over it again. 88 00:03:46,059 --> 00:03:47,527 Together: If I needed an agent, 89 00:03:47,593 --> 00:03:49,562 I'd want it to be Arliss Michaels. 90 00:03:49,629 --> 00:03:52,365 I'm very fortunate to work here. 91 00:03:52,432 --> 00:03:54,701 To the best of my knowledge, that never occurred. 92 00:03:54,767 --> 00:03:55,768 Good. 93 00:03:55,835 --> 00:03:57,570 (farting sounds) 94 00:03:57,637 --> 00:04:00,773 If I needed an agent, I'd want it to be Arliss Michaels. 95 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,676 Armen: Kirby Carlisle, Arliss Michaels' top associate 96 00:04:03,743 --> 00:04:05,478 and Arliss' first client. 97 00:04:05,545 --> 00:04:07,313 You were his first client, weren't you? 98 00:04:07,380 --> 00:04:10,683 That's right. You might say I'm the guy who started it all. 99 00:04:10,750 --> 00:04:14,387 In fact, Arliss always refers to me as "patient zero." 100 00:04:14,454 --> 00:04:15,521 (farting sounds) 101 00:04:15,588 --> 00:04:18,458 Armen: Rita Wu, Arliss' executive assistant. 102 00:04:18,524 --> 00:04:21,627 If I needed an agent, I'd want it to be Arliss Michaels. 103 00:04:21,694 --> 00:04:24,330 Rita, what seems to stand out from talking to people here 104 00:04:24,397 --> 00:04:26,165 is the tremendous sense of loyalty. 105 00:04:26,232 --> 00:04:29,268 I'm very fortunate to be working here. 106 00:04:29,335 --> 00:04:32,572 He seems like a generous and giving employer. 107 00:04:32,638 --> 00:04:34,774 To the best of my knowledge, that never occurred. 108 00:04:34,841 --> 00:04:37,944 I pinch myself every morning. I just love what I do. 109 00:04:38,010 --> 00:04:39,312 I work with great people, 110 00:04:39,378 --> 00:04:41,948 and I have the respect and the appreciation of my clients. 111 00:04:42,014 --> 00:04:43,616 All of Michaels' current clients 112 00:04:43,683 --> 00:04:45,551 may respect and appreciate him, 113 00:04:45,618 --> 00:04:48,788 but one former client most certainly does not. 114 00:04:48,855 --> 00:04:50,890 Arliss Michaels lied to me. 115 00:04:50,957 --> 00:04:52,225 Armen: Slugger Donny Thurman 116 00:04:52,291 --> 00:04:55,328 teamed up with Arliss Michaels in 1979. 117 00:04:55,394 --> 00:04:57,730 It was a profitable association for both 118 00:04:57,797 --> 00:04:59,832 and ran nearly 20 years. 119 00:04:59,899 --> 00:05:02,769 But it ended recently with rancor and accusation. 120 00:05:02,835 --> 00:05:06,272 Arliss Michaels is guilty of misrepresentation, 121 00:05:06,339 --> 00:05:08,040 unethical business practices, 122 00:05:08,107 --> 00:05:09,809 and a conflict of interest. 123 00:05:09,876 --> 00:05:13,346 Donny, you and Arliss were much more than client and agent, 124 00:05:13,412 --> 00:05:15,248 you were the best of friends. 125 00:05:15,314 --> 00:05:16,516 Yeah. 126 00:05:16,582 --> 00:05:18,618 He introduced me to my wife. 127 00:05:18,684 --> 00:05:20,753 He's also godfather of my son, Daniel. 128 00:05:20,820 --> 00:05:22,588 Donny and I were friends. 129 00:05:22,655 --> 00:05:24,991 Our relationship went way beyond baseball. 130 00:05:25,057 --> 00:05:27,894 We shared many interests outside the game. 131 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,296 In fact, that's initially what brought us together. 132 00:05:30,363 --> 00:05:33,633 ♪ ♪ 133 00:05:36,936 --> 00:05:37,970 ♪ There's a line... ♪ 134 00:05:38,037 --> 00:05:39,405 It's 150 a lid. 135 00:05:39,472 --> 00:05:41,607 150? You're high! 136 00:05:42,809 --> 00:05:45,144 ♪ Don't even try to stop me... ♪ 137 00:05:45,211 --> 00:05:47,246 Hey, what's the cost if I can get you 138 00:05:47,313 --> 00:05:49,916 two great seats to the Rose Bowl? 139 00:05:49,982 --> 00:05:51,584 150. 140 00:05:51,651 --> 00:05:52,852 I hate sports. 141 00:05:52,919 --> 00:05:55,154 ♪ I stood back and looked at the same... ♪ 142 00:05:55,221 --> 00:05:56,823 I like that sombrero, though. 143 00:05:57,890 --> 00:05:59,125 Kirby. 144 00:05:59,126 --> 00:06:00,359 (coughs) 145 00:06:00,426 --> 00:06:02,829 Is there a White Castle nearby? 146 00:06:04,430 --> 00:06:05,465 A hundred and the hat. 147 00:06:05,466 --> 00:06:06,499 Deal, dude. 148 00:06:06,566 --> 00:06:09,068 ♪ There are rules that someone else made ♪ 149 00:06:09,135 --> 00:06:11,671 ♪ I'm breaking right now ♪ 150 00:06:11,737 --> 00:06:14,774 ♪ They don't apply to me, 'cause those fools are... ♪ 151 00:06:14,841 --> 00:06:16,309 (whispers) Let's go. 152 00:06:16,375 --> 00:06:18,678 ♪ See them wave to the crowd... ♪ 153 00:06:18,744 --> 00:06:20,580 - Bonsoir. - ♪ As naked as can be ♪ 154 00:06:20,646 --> 00:06:23,349 ♪ I saw what was real and what's fake ♪ 155 00:06:23,416 --> 00:06:25,184 ♪ From a vantage point high... ♪ 156 00:06:25,251 --> 00:06:27,486 Arliss, you know Donny Thurman? 157 00:06:27,553 --> 00:06:29,388 Sure, I know Donny. How's it going, man? 158 00:06:29,455 --> 00:06:30,766 ♪ I took all the hurt I could take ♪ 159 00:06:30,790 --> 00:06:32,024 ♪ And I turned it around ♪ 160 00:06:32,091 --> 00:06:33,559 Later. 161 00:06:33,626 --> 00:06:35,728 Amigo, como estas? 162 00:06:35,795 --> 00:06:36,980 How much I owe you? 163 00:06:36,981 --> 00:06:38,164 For you... 164 00:06:39,298 --> 00:06:41,367 175 a lid. 165 00:06:41,434 --> 00:06:43,302 Excuse me! 166 00:06:43,369 --> 00:06:44,387 Did you just say 175? 167 00:06:44,388 --> 00:06:45,404 Dude. 168 00:06:45,471 --> 00:06:47,406 He did, didn't he? He just said 175. 169 00:06:47,473 --> 00:06:49,709 - He just charged me a hundred. - Don't forget the hat. 170 00:06:49,775 --> 00:06:52,511 What's going on here? You are being taken advantage of, my brother. 171 00:06:52,578 --> 00:06:53,980 I'm not your brother. 172 00:06:55,615 --> 00:06:57,083 Keep talking. 173 00:06:59,185 --> 00:07:00,519 Dude? 174 00:07:00,586 --> 00:07:02,288 ♪ From a vantage point high... ♪ 175 00:07:02,355 --> 00:07:04,991 Donny and I bonded the first night we met. 176 00:07:05,057 --> 00:07:07,727 In fact, you could say that it was a joint effort. 177 00:07:09,729 --> 00:07:11,607 Look, I know I don't have that many clients yet, 178 00:07:11,631 --> 00:07:12,965 but I'm getting more all the time, 179 00:07:13,032 --> 00:07:14,810 and a guy like you could really make a difference. 180 00:07:14,834 --> 00:07:16,068 Look... 181 00:07:17,403 --> 00:07:19,105 I don't think I really need an agent. 182 00:07:19,171 --> 00:07:20,406 Sure you do. 183 00:07:20,473 --> 00:07:21,941 Otherwise the man's gonna fuck you. 184 00:07:22,008 --> 00:07:24,176 I'm telling you, the way baseball's going, 185 00:07:24,243 --> 00:07:26,279 the average salary... Soon, the average salary's 186 00:07:26,345 --> 00:07:28,080 gonna be a million dollars a man. 187 00:07:28,147 --> 00:07:29,615 A million dollars a man? 188 00:07:29,682 --> 00:07:32,418 Yeah, the game's changing from a mom-and-pop operation 189 00:07:32,485 --> 00:07:35,821 to a big conglomerate corporate entity. 190 00:07:35,888 --> 00:07:38,424 It's not baseball anymore. It's gonna be programming! 191 00:07:38,491 --> 00:07:40,726 Alright, alright. I just want to ask you a question. 192 00:07:40,793 --> 00:07:42,428 I know what you're gonna ask me. 193 00:07:42,495 --> 00:07:44,430 How many black clients do I have? 194 00:07:45,464 --> 00:07:46,766 Well, together we'll do better. 195 00:07:46,832 --> 00:07:49,035 I know how many black clients you have. 196 00:07:50,102 --> 00:07:51,637 What I want to know is 197 00:07:51,704 --> 00:07:54,073 how many black employees, you got? 198 00:07:54,140 --> 00:07:56,275 ♪ Jack told me it wasn't him... ♪ 199 00:07:56,342 --> 00:07:58,511 Together we'll do better. 200 00:07:58,577 --> 00:08:02,982 ♪ No, no ♪ 201 00:08:03,049 --> 00:08:06,018 ♪ I ain't got nobody ♪ 202 00:08:06,085 --> 00:08:09,255 ♪ Lord knows I ain't got myself ♪ 203 00:08:09,322 --> 00:08:12,591 I joined AMM about the same time that Donny Thurman did. 204 00:08:12,658 --> 00:08:15,761 Armen: Stanley Babson, Chief Financial Officer of AMM 205 00:08:15,828 --> 00:08:17,797 paints a unique picture. 206 00:08:17,863 --> 00:08:21,267 Sure, Arliss has been lucky, but you know what? 207 00:08:21,334 --> 00:08:25,504 The harder he works, the luckier he gets. 208 00:08:25,571 --> 00:08:27,239 In fact, if I needed an agent, 209 00:08:27,306 --> 00:08:29,475 I'd want it to be Arliss Michaels. 210 00:08:29,542 --> 00:08:32,378 I put everything I had into representing Donny. 211 00:08:32,445 --> 00:08:34,180 In fact, I remember our first negotiation. 212 00:08:34,246 --> 00:08:37,383 I pulled out some tricks that Siegfried and Roy would've been proud of. 213 00:08:37,450 --> 00:08:39,518 Arliss Michaels is a visionary. 214 00:08:39,585 --> 00:08:41,754 He was the first agent to include the concept 215 00:08:41,821 --> 00:08:44,757 of incentive bonuses for the players. 216 00:08:44,824 --> 00:08:46,592 So when Donny had his career year 217 00:08:46,659 --> 00:08:48,394 because of the incentive clauses 218 00:08:48,461 --> 00:08:50,596 that I had the foresight to bring in, 219 00:08:50,663 --> 00:08:52,465 Donny nearly doubled his salary. 220 00:08:52,531 --> 00:08:54,209 Does that sound like a conflict of interest to you? 221 00:08:54,233 --> 00:08:56,035 Does that sound like misrepresentation to you? 222 00:08:56,102 --> 00:08:57,236 I don't think so. 223 00:08:57,303 --> 00:08:59,438 So in the beginning everything was good. 224 00:08:59,505 --> 00:09:01,040 Yeah, in the beginning it was good. 225 00:09:01,107 --> 00:09:02,274 So what happened? 226 00:09:02,341 --> 00:09:04,143 How did you go from the best of friends 227 00:09:04,210 --> 00:09:06,846 to suing Arliss for $10 million? 228 00:09:06,912 --> 00:09:09,548 (scoffs) Because, well, for one thing, 229 00:09:09,615 --> 00:09:11,093 I introduced him to a lot of his clients. 230 00:09:11,117 --> 00:09:12,318 Such as? 231 00:09:13,652 --> 00:09:14,720 Ozzie Smith. 232 00:09:14,787 --> 00:09:16,105 (dance music plays) 233 00:09:16,106 --> 00:09:17,423 ♪ Oh yeah ♪ 234 00:09:18,657 --> 00:09:20,159 Kirby: Oh, yeah! Woo-hoo! 235 00:09:20,226 --> 00:09:21,794 Oh, come on, take it off. 236 00:09:21,861 --> 00:09:24,196 Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, take it off! 237 00:09:24,263 --> 00:09:26,065 Woo-hoo! 238 00:09:26,132 --> 00:09:27,466 Oh, yeah. 239 00:09:27,533 --> 00:09:30,436 So you having... Oh! You having fun at my bachelor party? 240 00:09:31,470 --> 00:09:33,572 I should marry you. 241 00:09:35,441 --> 00:09:38,044 Man, that Kirby is having a good time. 242 00:09:38,110 --> 00:09:40,346 If you think he's having a good time, check out Stanley. 243 00:09:40,413 --> 00:09:41,514 (laughs) Oh my god. 244 00:09:41,580 --> 00:09:43,025 (chuckles nervously) You're in great shape. 245 00:09:43,049 --> 00:09:44,450 (laughs) 246 00:09:44,451 --> 00:09:45,851 Do you work out? Oh! Well. 247 00:09:45,918 --> 00:09:47,219 (laughter) 248 00:09:47,286 --> 00:09:49,021 Hey, Donny, where's Ozzie? 249 00:09:49,088 --> 00:09:50,589 Man, he'll be here in a minute. 250 00:09:50,656 --> 00:09:52,467 Yeah, when he comes, I want you to introduce him to me. 251 00:09:52,491 --> 00:09:54,060 Look, man, if you want to meet Ozzie, 252 00:09:54,126 --> 00:09:55,895 just walk up to him and say hello. 253 00:09:55,961 --> 00:09:57,663 I introduced you to the strippers. 254 00:09:57,730 --> 00:10:00,066 ♪ She'll do the same ♪ 255 00:10:00,132 --> 00:10:02,535 ♪ She's quite a beauty, gotta work it... ♪ 256 00:10:02,601 --> 00:10:04,103 Kirby: Where'd you come from? 257 00:10:04,170 --> 00:10:06,005 Whoo! Yeah, take it off. 258 00:10:06,072 --> 00:10:08,040 Come on, come on, take it off. Take it off. 259 00:10:08,107 --> 00:10:09,809 Don't be shy, don't be shy. 260 00:10:09,875 --> 00:10:11,811 Oh yeah, shake it, baby. 261 00:10:11,877 --> 00:10:13,112 (growls) 262 00:10:13,179 --> 00:10:15,247 I'm... I'm sorry. I can't do this. 263 00:10:15,314 --> 00:10:18,584 No, no, no, my fiancée and I, we... we have an understanding. 264 00:10:18,651 --> 00:10:21,987 Hey. What's the problem? 265 00:10:22,054 --> 00:10:23,823 I'm sorry, I can't do this. 266 00:10:23,889 --> 00:10:25,658 I'm not a stripper. I'm an actress. 267 00:10:25,724 --> 00:10:27,793 - Oh, really? - Yes, I studied Meisner. 268 00:10:27,860 --> 00:10:29,028 I've got this industrial... 269 00:10:29,095 --> 00:10:30,735 I got a callback on a national commercial. 270 00:10:30,796 --> 00:10:32,765 Look, look, look, if you an actress, 271 00:10:32,832 --> 00:10:35,901 then act like a stripper. Hmm? 272 00:10:35,968 --> 00:10:37,336 Man: Yeah! 273 00:10:37,337 --> 00:10:38,704 Act like a stripper, huh? 274 00:10:38,771 --> 00:10:40,406 ♪ Get it done ♪ 275 00:10:40,473 --> 00:10:42,875 ♪ Oh yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 276 00:10:44,810 --> 00:10:46,512 ♪ Get it done ♪ 277 00:10:46,579 --> 00:10:48,347 Great job, there's Ozzie. 278 00:10:48,414 --> 00:10:49,715 And once Ozzie got there, 279 00:10:49,782 --> 00:10:52,017 Arliss put his nose so far up Ozzie's ass, 280 00:10:52,084 --> 00:10:53,919 it took about six of us to pull him off. 281 00:10:53,986 --> 00:10:57,723 Armen: We asked former All-Star shortstop Ozzie Smith for his opinion. 282 00:10:57,790 --> 00:11:00,359 Ozzie, did Donny Thurman bring you to Arliss Michaels? 283 00:11:00,426 --> 00:11:03,395 Yeah, sure, probably. 284 00:11:03,462 --> 00:11:06,298 And once an athlete of your stature went with Arliss, 285 00:11:06,365 --> 00:11:08,310 what was the key to all the black athletes who followed? 286 00:11:08,334 --> 00:11:10,903 Man, I don't know. Donny's a friend of mine, 287 00:11:10,970 --> 00:11:13,139 and Arliss did a great job for me. 288 00:11:13,205 --> 00:11:14,573 That's all I gotta say. 289 00:11:16,742 --> 00:11:18,944 By the way, do you vote for the Hall of Fame? 290 00:11:19,011 --> 00:11:20,646 So, Donny, what's the big deal? 291 00:11:20,713 --> 00:11:23,449 A couple of guys you know signed with your agent. 292 00:11:23,516 --> 00:11:26,819 (scoffs) It wasn't just a couple, Armen. It was a lot more. 293 00:11:26,886 --> 00:11:30,422 I opened the door for all the other black clients that followed. 294 00:11:30,489 --> 00:11:31,790 Armen: Before Donny Thurman, 295 00:11:31,857 --> 00:11:34,627 you had no other African-American clients. 296 00:11:34,693 --> 00:11:36,629 Now he's saying you used him 297 00:11:36,695 --> 00:11:38,564 to recruit other black athletes. 298 00:11:38,631 --> 00:11:40,132 No, no, no. 299 00:11:40,199 --> 00:11:42,334 Donny was my first African-American client, 300 00:11:42,401 --> 00:11:44,403 but I never used him to help me recruit. 301 00:11:44,470 --> 00:11:45,647 I mean, that... that's absurd. 302 00:11:45,671 --> 00:11:48,908 Armen: Agent Alvin Epps of the Epps-Brenner Agency. 303 00:11:48,974 --> 00:11:51,143 Arliss Michaels has made a career 304 00:11:51,210 --> 00:11:53,646 out of the exploitation of the black athlete. 305 00:11:53,712 --> 00:11:56,115 I've always known that he sucked the nectar 306 00:11:56,182 --> 00:11:57,716 out of their athletic abilities, 307 00:11:57,783 --> 00:12:00,052 now it seems he's made a considerable profit 308 00:12:00,119 --> 00:12:02,188 on their business contacts. 309 00:12:02,254 --> 00:12:04,723 Why is that whenever there's a dispute 310 00:12:04,790 --> 00:12:06,268 between a person who happens to be black 311 00:12:06,292 --> 00:12:07,826 and a person who happens to be white, 312 00:12:07,893 --> 00:12:09,562 it has to be a racial incident? 313 00:12:09,628 --> 00:12:12,498 Donny Thurman and his attorney are playing the race card. 314 00:12:12,565 --> 00:12:16,535 Race has absolutely nothing to do with this case. 315 00:12:16,602 --> 00:12:18,504 We exploit all our clients equally. 316 00:12:19,672 --> 00:12:21,507 Armen: Donny isn't the only Thurman 317 00:12:21,574 --> 00:12:23,909 who has been involved with Arliss Michaels for 20 years. 318 00:12:23,976 --> 00:12:25,377 Donny's wife, Brenda Thurman, 319 00:12:25,444 --> 00:12:27,813 has known the agent for almost as long. 320 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,949 Look, I have to admit. 321 00:12:30,015 --> 00:12:31,850 If it wasn't for Arliss Michaels, 322 00:12:31,917 --> 00:12:33,519 I wouldn't have met my husband. 323 00:12:33,586 --> 00:12:35,530 Brenda, you were an actress at the time, is that right? 324 00:12:35,554 --> 00:12:37,406 Yes... at the time. 325 00:12:37,407 --> 00:12:39,258 (chuckles) 326 00:12:39,325 --> 00:12:41,760 She blames me for giving up her acting career. 327 00:12:41,827 --> 00:12:43,229 I do not. 328 00:12:43,295 --> 00:12:45,864 I was more than happy to move to Cleveland 329 00:12:45,931 --> 00:12:48,434 to take care of Donny and our kids. 330 00:12:48,500 --> 00:12:50,035 You see? 331 00:12:50,102 --> 00:12:51,570 Marriage has its ups and downs. 332 00:12:51,637 --> 00:12:52,805 Things work out. 333 00:12:52,871 --> 00:12:54,673 Why not here with Arliss and Donny? 334 00:12:54,740 --> 00:12:57,209 I don't see how. 335 00:12:57,276 --> 00:12:58,410 I'm an agent. 336 00:12:58,477 --> 00:13:00,179 My job is to bring two people together, 337 00:13:00,246 --> 00:13:02,815 make sure both sides happy, a win-win situation. 338 00:13:02,881 --> 00:13:05,084 I mean, Donny and I go back 20 years. 339 00:13:05,150 --> 00:13:08,153 I mean, from a single office to the ones we're in now. 340 00:13:08,220 --> 00:13:09,922 - Keep them closed? - (hammering) 341 00:13:09,989 --> 00:13:11,207 Open them. 342 00:13:11,208 --> 00:13:12,424 Oh, shit! 343 00:13:12,491 --> 00:13:13,726 (laughs) 344 00:13:13,727 --> 00:13:14,960 Oh, man! 345 00:13:15,027 --> 00:13:16,895 - This is reception here. - Right. 346 00:13:16,962 --> 00:13:18,230 Kirby's office is here. 347 00:13:18,297 --> 00:13:19,865 I got a little cafe area over there. 348 00:13:19,932 --> 00:13:21,343 That's gonna be my office over there. 349 00:13:21,367 --> 00:13:22,444 Over here's the conference room. 350 00:13:22,468 --> 00:13:23,612 Oh, wait until you hear about that. 351 00:13:23,636 --> 00:13:24,980 I got a conference table being designed 352 00:13:25,004 --> 00:13:26,472 in the shape of a basketball court. 353 00:13:26,538 --> 00:13:29,775 (laughs) This is impressive, baby. 354 00:13:29,842 --> 00:13:31,010 - You bet. - Excuse me. 355 00:13:31,076 --> 00:13:32,420 Hey, hey, you need help with that, ma'am? 356 00:13:32,444 --> 00:13:33,879 No, she's fine, aren't you okay? 357 00:13:33,946 --> 00:13:35,514 Sure thing, Mr. Michaels. 358 00:13:36,815 --> 00:13:38,017 Man, who is that? 359 00:13:38,083 --> 00:13:39,885 Oh, that's just some temp I hired 360 00:13:39,952 --> 00:13:41,420 to help me with the filing. 361 00:13:41,487 --> 00:13:43,389 Seems docile enough, might keep her on. 362 00:13:44,990 --> 00:13:46,592 (whispers) Sorry. 363 00:13:48,093 --> 00:13:49,537 Anyway, Donny, I want you to know that 364 00:13:49,561 --> 00:13:51,406 none of this would be possible without you, man. 365 00:13:51,430 --> 00:13:54,033 I mean, you'll always be number one with me. 366 00:13:54,099 --> 00:13:56,969 Oh, Arliss, man. 367 00:13:57,036 --> 00:13:59,080 - (laughs) You the man. - Come on, let me show you my office. 368 00:13:59,104 --> 00:14:01,573 "You'll always be number one with me." 369 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,976 "There'll never be another client higher on my speed dial." 370 00:14:04,043 --> 00:14:05,744 That's what he said. 371 00:14:05,811 --> 00:14:07,479 And how did Arliss thank me? 372 00:14:07,546 --> 00:14:08,947 He screwed me... 373 00:14:09,014 --> 00:14:10,249 when I needed him most. 374 00:14:10,316 --> 00:14:12,251 He feels that you betrayed him. 375 00:14:12,318 --> 00:14:14,586 What do you think brought this on? 376 00:14:15,688 --> 00:14:18,590 The sad fact is that Donny, not unlike... 377 00:14:18,657 --> 00:14:20,492 many ballplayers in a similar situation, 378 00:14:20,559 --> 00:14:22,394 is having trouble coping with the fact 379 00:14:22,461 --> 00:14:24,997 that his playing career is over. 380 00:14:25,064 --> 00:14:26,732 Well, what about Tampa Bay? 381 00:14:26,799 --> 00:14:28,233 I mean, you said it was a lock. 382 00:14:29,802 --> 00:14:31,637 They decided to go another way. 383 00:14:33,472 --> 00:14:34,640 Oh, shit! 384 00:14:35,674 --> 00:14:37,676 Look, alright, alright. 385 00:14:39,044 --> 00:14:40,088 Look, I'll play in Oakland. 386 00:14:40,112 --> 00:14:42,081 Well, Art Howe loves you, 387 00:14:42,147 --> 00:14:44,249 but management's committed to youth. 388 00:14:45,584 --> 00:14:48,387 So you're saying... that's it. 389 00:14:50,022 --> 00:14:51,223 I'm done. 390 00:14:51,290 --> 00:14:53,792 Well, no, no, I've already contacted some teams in Japan. 391 00:14:53,859 --> 00:14:55,794 (scoffs) 392 00:14:55,861 --> 00:14:58,130 Ain't no fucking way! 393 00:14:58,197 --> 00:14:59,798 I'm not going halfway around the world 394 00:14:59,865 --> 00:15:00,966 when I can still play here! 395 00:15:02,401 --> 00:15:04,002 Donny, the fact is the last few seasons 396 00:15:04,069 --> 00:15:05,804 your numbers have really tailed off. 397 00:15:05,871 --> 00:15:09,041 It's because of the knee surgery, Arliss. 398 00:15:09,108 --> 00:15:11,877 (laughs) Look, it's better. I'm all better. 399 00:15:11,944 --> 00:15:14,246 (angrily) It's better! 400 00:15:14,313 --> 00:15:17,850 Look, L.A. is looking for a new third base coach. 401 00:15:17,916 --> 00:15:19,194 It's a great way to stay in the game. 402 00:15:19,218 --> 00:15:22,354 Look, I can still swing the fucking stick, Arliss. 403 00:15:23,389 --> 00:15:24,556 I'm not ready to give it up. 404 00:15:25,924 --> 00:15:27,960 Donny, I've done everything I can. 405 00:15:28,961 --> 00:15:32,231 (scoffs) Have you? Really? 406 00:15:34,633 --> 00:15:35,793 What's that supposed to mean? 407 00:15:35,834 --> 00:15:37,836 Look, I know how you work, man. 408 00:15:38,837 --> 00:15:41,340 Look, my little contract ain't worth your time 409 00:15:41,407 --> 00:15:43,008 now that you got these big clients. 410 00:15:43,075 --> 00:15:45,010 That's not true. 411 00:15:46,011 --> 00:15:48,647 I always do my best for all my clients. 412 00:15:48,714 --> 00:15:50,149 (knocking) 413 00:15:51,483 --> 00:15:52,918 Arliss, excuse me. 414 00:15:52,985 --> 00:15:54,219 Victor Gonzalez is here. 415 00:15:57,656 --> 00:15:58,656 (door closes) 416 00:15:58,690 --> 00:15:59,691 Yeah. 417 00:16:01,326 --> 00:16:02,428 I guess my time is up... 418 00:16:04,797 --> 00:16:06,341 now that you got somebody more important 419 00:16:06,365 --> 00:16:07,976 - to deal with. - Donny, wait, let's talk. 420 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,902 As a nuevo cliente... 421 00:16:12,004 --> 00:16:13,205 Hey, que pasa, Donny? 422 00:16:15,574 --> 00:16:17,676 Oh, Arliss. Victor. 423 00:16:17,743 --> 00:16:19,144 - Hey, what's up? - Hey, Arliss. 424 00:16:19,211 --> 00:16:20,279 (laughs) 425 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,016 He claims you completely sold him out. 426 00:16:24,082 --> 00:16:25,082 What do you say? 427 00:16:25,117 --> 00:16:26,985 Look, I'm not a buyer, I'm a seller. 428 00:16:27,052 --> 00:16:29,188 I can't pick and choose where an athlete's gonna play. 429 00:16:29,254 --> 00:16:31,623 That's absurd. That's up to the team that wants him the most. 430 00:16:31,690 --> 00:16:33,459 Because of Donny's limited mobility, 431 00:16:33,525 --> 00:16:34,836 I couldn't get any of the team owners 432 00:16:34,860 --> 00:16:36,495 even to consider Donny. 433 00:16:36,562 --> 00:16:38,197 Unfortunately that's the nature 434 00:16:38,263 --> 00:16:40,299 of a professional sports career. 435 00:16:40,365 --> 00:16:41,567 It happens. 436 00:16:41,633 --> 00:16:44,570 Nothing with Arliss Michaels just happens. 437 00:16:44,636 --> 00:16:46,605 He's very loyal to his older clients. 438 00:16:46,672 --> 00:16:48,707 He busted his ass to get Donny a job. 439 00:16:48,774 --> 00:16:50,108 It was his top priority. 440 00:16:50,175 --> 00:16:52,978 Arliss assured me when he went to Tampa Bay 441 00:16:53,045 --> 00:16:54,713 he was gonna come back with a deal. 442 00:16:54,780 --> 00:16:58,550 $750,000, one year, best I can do. 443 00:16:58,617 --> 00:17:00,452 Mel, Donny's looking for a two-year deal. 444 00:17:00,519 --> 00:17:03,989 Arliss, Donny's a 39-year-old one-legged DH. 445 00:17:04,056 --> 00:17:06,725 750, one year, final offer. 446 00:17:08,193 --> 00:17:10,796 It's not like we're talking Victor Gonzalez here. 447 00:17:12,130 --> 00:17:13,899 No, we're not. 448 00:17:13,966 --> 00:17:15,968 What if we were talking Victor Gonzalez? 449 00:17:18,203 --> 00:17:19,204 Sorry. 450 00:17:19,271 --> 00:17:21,373 Victor only wants to play for a pennant contender. 451 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:26,144 Well, any team that has Gonzalez is a pennant contender. 452 00:17:27,746 --> 00:17:29,948 Any team that is willing to meet the sticker price. 453 00:17:30,015 --> 00:17:32,618 What would that be "out the door"? 454 00:17:33,886 --> 00:17:36,755 Tampa Bay wants to sign Victor Gonzalez? 455 00:17:36,822 --> 00:17:39,124 I thought you were pushing Donny Thurman for that job. 456 00:17:39,191 --> 00:17:41,827 I was and suddenly Tampa Bay opens up the bank vault, 457 00:17:41,894 --> 00:17:43,238 offering 40 million for five years. 458 00:17:43,262 --> 00:17:45,073 So what am I supposed to do, tell him not to take it? 459 00:17:45,097 --> 00:17:48,033 Yeah, but Tampa Bay's the only team that's shown any interest in Donny. 460 00:17:48,100 --> 00:17:49,801 And Victor will get other offers, 461 00:17:49,868 --> 00:17:51,136 some better than 40 million. 462 00:17:51,203 --> 00:17:53,605 Maybe he will, and maybe he won't. 463 00:17:53,672 --> 00:17:54,907 And it's not a done deal. 464 00:17:54,973 --> 00:17:57,276 If Victor says no, than maybe they'll go back to Donny. 465 00:17:57,342 --> 00:17:59,211 And if he doesn't say no? 466 00:17:59,278 --> 00:18:02,080 Oh, don't worry. I know exactly what I'm gonna say to Donny. 467 00:18:02,147 --> 00:18:04,283 Donny, we've been friends a long time, 468 00:18:04,349 --> 00:18:05,827 and I've always been straight with you, 469 00:18:05,851 --> 00:18:07,753 so I'm just gonna tell you straight out. 470 00:18:08,754 --> 00:18:10,589 I've come up against the wall. 471 00:18:10,656 --> 00:18:12,457 Well, what about Tampa Bay? 472 00:18:12,524 --> 00:18:14,092 I mean you said it was a lock. 473 00:18:15,761 --> 00:18:17,629 They decided to go another way. 474 00:18:19,398 --> 00:18:22,100 So you're saying that's it? 475 00:18:23,735 --> 00:18:24,870 I'm done. 476 00:18:26,405 --> 00:18:28,607 So what happened with the Tampa Bay job? 477 00:18:29,808 --> 00:18:32,344 As far as Donny not getting the Tampa Bay job goes, 478 00:18:32,411 --> 00:18:34,513 I was very up front with him about that. 479 00:18:34,580 --> 00:18:36,815 Now I'm not gonna say Donny wasn't disappointed, 480 00:18:36,882 --> 00:18:38,750 but eventually he understood, 481 00:18:38,817 --> 00:18:42,421 and... a few days later when we called 482 00:18:42,487 --> 00:18:44,198 the press conference to announce his retirement, 483 00:18:44,222 --> 00:18:46,568 I'm proud to say that I was standing right there next to him. 484 00:18:46,592 --> 00:18:48,560 Armen: And last February 26th, 485 00:18:48,627 --> 00:18:52,197 Donald Albert Thurman ended what is certainly going to be 486 00:18:52,264 --> 00:18:53,532 a Hall of Fame career. 487 00:18:53,599 --> 00:18:55,334 It seemed to be the final chapter 488 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,402 to a storybook relationship. 489 00:18:57,469 --> 00:18:59,705 But it turned out to be the first chapter 490 00:18:59,771 --> 00:19:01,406 in a bitter feud. 491 00:19:01,473 --> 00:19:02,641 I remember that day. 492 00:19:02,708 --> 00:19:04,519 I was in the kitchen when I heard him screaming. 493 00:19:04,543 --> 00:19:06,845 "No! No, no!" 494 00:19:06,912 --> 00:19:10,616 I scared the hell out of my wife, my... my kids, 495 00:19:10,682 --> 00:19:13,185 but I couldn't believe what I was seeing. 496 00:19:13,251 --> 00:19:16,421 Tampa Bay had been looking to add some pop to their lineup, 497 00:19:16,488 --> 00:19:18,123 and they did it by landing 498 00:19:18,190 --> 00:19:20,626 one of the biggest free agent fish on the market, 499 00:19:20,692 --> 00:19:22,894 designated hitter Victor Gonzalez. 500 00:19:22,961 --> 00:19:26,098 He is now in Tampa after signing a five-year deal 501 00:19:26,164 --> 00:19:28,033 worth $40 million. 502 00:19:28,100 --> 00:19:30,469 This was Victor's first and only choice. 503 00:19:30,535 --> 00:19:33,105 When I saw Tampa Bay signed Victor Gonzalez, 504 00:19:33,171 --> 00:19:35,140 I knew Arliss had lied to me. 505 00:19:35,207 --> 00:19:37,843 He backed up Victor instead of me, 506 00:19:37,909 --> 00:19:39,144 and I felt violated. 507 00:19:40,512 --> 00:19:41,546 It was ugly. 508 00:19:41,613 --> 00:19:43,415 Armen: And then it got uglier. 509 00:19:43,482 --> 00:19:44,683 On March 16th, 510 00:19:44,750 --> 00:19:47,486 Donny Thurman filed a $10 million lawsuit 511 00:19:47,552 --> 00:19:50,856 and retained the celebrated Johnny Cochran as his attorney. 512 00:19:50,922 --> 00:19:52,791 There are inherent conflicts of interests 513 00:19:52,858 --> 00:19:54,493 in agent/client relationships. 514 00:19:54,559 --> 00:19:56,528 Through this litigation we expect to show 515 00:19:56,595 --> 00:19:59,297 Mr. Michaels most often resolved those conflicts 516 00:19:59,364 --> 00:20:00,699 in favor of himself. 517 00:20:00,766 --> 00:20:03,101 Arliss represents over a hundred athletes. 518 00:20:03,168 --> 00:20:06,038 Sometimes we have more than one client up for the same job. 519 00:20:06,104 --> 00:20:07,406 That's not conflict of interest. 520 00:20:07,472 --> 00:20:09,007 That's just the nature of our business. 521 00:20:09,074 --> 00:20:11,443 Let's just say we're very excited about the prospects 522 00:20:11,510 --> 00:20:13,679 of examining the way Mr. Michaels does business. 523 00:20:13,745 --> 00:20:15,647 We're planning to pose a number of witnesses... 524 00:20:15,714 --> 00:20:17,716 Clients, owners, and others... 525 00:20:17,783 --> 00:20:19,985 That Mr. Michaels has done business with over the years. 526 00:20:20,052 --> 00:20:22,854 We think it'll be very, very, interesting. 527 00:20:22,921 --> 00:20:24,089 It's not fair. 528 00:20:24,156 --> 00:20:26,491 Arliss, since the first day he met Donny, 529 00:20:26,558 --> 00:20:27,859 fought for the guy. 530 00:20:27,926 --> 00:20:29,327 I've been there since the beginning, 531 00:20:29,394 --> 00:20:32,531 and when Arliss first helped Donny by that pot... 532 00:20:32,597 --> 00:20:35,133 Pontiac... Firebird, 533 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,669 you should've seen Arliss work over the dealer. 534 00:20:37,736 --> 00:20:38,737 (chuckles) He... what... 535 00:20:40,372 --> 00:20:41,773 Let's... let's start again. 536 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,208 Roll that back. (clears throat) 537 00:20:43,275 --> 00:20:46,078 Arliss, you've got a lot of other big name clients, 538 00:20:46,144 --> 00:20:47,879 many of whom are friends of Donny's, 539 00:20:47,946 --> 00:20:49,691 some of them who may be in the same situation 540 00:20:49,715 --> 00:20:51,149 as Donny someday. 541 00:20:51,216 --> 00:20:52,617 What's been their reaction? 542 00:20:52,684 --> 00:20:54,786 Well, first of all I try never to bring other clients 543 00:20:54,853 --> 00:20:56,788 into my legal situations, 544 00:20:56,855 --> 00:20:58,724 but, that said, 545 00:20:58,790 --> 00:21:01,193 I am proud to say that most of them 546 00:21:01,259 --> 00:21:03,495 have offered to testify on my behalf. 547 00:21:03,562 --> 00:21:05,173 Look, Magic, this thing's starting to get ugly. 548 00:21:05,197 --> 00:21:06,941 I might need clients to testify on my behalf. 549 00:21:06,965 --> 00:21:08,116 Will you do it? 550 00:21:08,117 --> 00:21:09,267 Look, come on, Arliss, 551 00:21:09,334 --> 00:21:11,002 now you know I'm friends with Donny too. 552 00:21:11,069 --> 00:21:12,370 Don't make me choose. 553 00:21:12,437 --> 00:21:13,717 Well, I wouldn't make you choose, 554 00:21:13,772 --> 00:21:15,450 but if you have to choose, you'll choose me, right? 555 00:21:15,474 --> 00:21:16,908 - Don't make me choose! - Why not? 556 00:21:16,975 --> 00:21:19,087 The other day you asked me who was better, you or Michael! 557 00:21:19,111 --> 00:21:20,612 Yeah, and you wouldn't choose either. 558 00:21:20,679 --> 00:21:21,923 Well, I'll choose if you choose. 559 00:21:21,947 --> 00:21:24,783 Look, I'm not gonna choose between you and Donny. 560 00:21:24,850 --> 00:21:26,761 Then I'm not gonna choose between you and Michael. 561 00:21:26,785 --> 00:21:28,105 Oh, that's how it's gonna be, huh? 562 00:21:28,153 --> 00:21:30,088 You're just gonna walk off on me, huh? 563 00:21:30,155 --> 00:21:31,523 Not to mention Larry. 564 00:21:31,590 --> 00:21:33,158 Oh, okay, that's how it's gonna be? 565 00:21:33,225 --> 00:21:34,526 Larry in it now too. 566 00:21:34,593 --> 00:21:37,329 So, Donny, what are the other athletes saying to you right now? 567 00:21:38,830 --> 00:21:40,298 "Go get him." 568 00:21:40,365 --> 00:21:42,534 Armen: All-star guard, Gary Payton. 569 00:21:42,601 --> 00:21:45,203 Well, you know, it's not just Arliss Michaels. 570 00:21:45,270 --> 00:21:47,205 I think all agents are scum. 571 00:21:47,272 --> 00:21:50,142 They get mad at us because we take 95 percent 572 00:21:50,208 --> 00:21:53,011 and give them five percent, and I do all the work. 573 00:21:53,078 --> 00:21:56,014 I just think agents are just bad, terrible scum people. 574 00:21:56,081 --> 00:21:57,449 That's all. 575 00:21:57,516 --> 00:21:59,284 Armen: Are you happy with your agent, Gary? 576 00:21:59,351 --> 00:22:00,852 I'm very happy with my agent. 577 00:22:00,919 --> 00:22:03,388 Armen: All pro wide receiver, Andre Rison. 578 00:22:03,455 --> 00:22:05,524 I've known Donny for several years like a brother, 579 00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:07,292 and he's never lied to me. 580 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,028 But as far as Arliss, he's a lying motherfucker. 581 00:22:11,229 --> 00:22:12,497 Can I say "motherfucker"? 582 00:22:12,564 --> 00:22:14,833 I know you and Donny no longer speak, 583 00:22:14,900 --> 00:22:17,536 but if you could talk to him, what would you tell him? 584 00:22:17,602 --> 00:22:20,972 I would tell him that I always gave him my best effort, always. 585 00:22:21,039 --> 00:22:24,576 And that... I never lied to him. 586 00:22:24,643 --> 00:22:28,880 Is there any chance of you settling this thing? 587 00:22:28,947 --> 00:22:30,949 I would like to think yes, 588 00:22:31,016 --> 00:22:33,185 but I'm afraid now a line has been crossed. 589 00:22:33,251 --> 00:22:34,786 Too many things have been said, 590 00:22:34,853 --> 00:22:36,922 and the only way to clear my name 591 00:22:36,988 --> 00:22:38,657 is to have my day in court. 592 00:22:38,723 --> 00:22:41,493 In fact, I demand it. 593 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:42,761 I want to settle. 594 00:22:42,828 --> 00:22:44,663 What do you think is a fair price? 595 00:22:44,729 --> 00:22:48,500 Well, after hearing what Donny has to say, I don't know. 596 00:22:48,567 --> 00:22:50,202 Your head on a stick? 597 00:22:51,803 --> 00:22:53,004 Shit! 598 00:22:53,071 --> 00:22:55,607 ♪ ♪ 599 00:22:58,443 --> 00:23:01,112 Maybe we haven't explored all the options. 600 00:23:06,952 --> 00:23:08,653 ♪ Oh yeah ♪ 601 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:09,988 You know what, Brenda? 602 00:23:10,055 --> 00:23:11,332 I'm gonna put some leave-on conditioner 603 00:23:11,356 --> 00:23:13,467 - and I'll be back to rinse it for you. - Okay, thanks. 604 00:23:13,491 --> 00:23:16,695 I'm gonna do something really different. 605 00:23:16,761 --> 00:23:18,172 Why do you want to do anything different? 606 00:23:18,196 --> 00:23:19,931 - You look gorgeous. - Arliss? 607 00:23:19,998 --> 00:23:21,867 What are you doing here? 608 00:23:21,933 --> 00:23:24,245 - Brenda, just hear me out, okay? - I don't want to talk about it. 609 00:23:24,269 --> 00:23:27,672 Brenda, we go back 20 years, together. That's 20 years. 610 00:23:27,739 --> 00:23:29,341 I remember when you were acting. 611 00:23:29,407 --> 00:23:30,842 Cut the bullshit, Arliss. 612 00:23:30,909 --> 00:23:31,949 Why are you talking to me? 613 00:23:31,977 --> 00:23:33,678 Why aren't you talking to Donny? 614 00:23:33,745 --> 00:23:35,647 Because I know your husband listens to you. 615 00:23:35,714 --> 00:23:38,416 Look, I am not going to play the role of peacemaker. 616 00:23:39,618 --> 00:23:42,954 Actually that's not the role I had in mind. 617 00:23:44,756 --> 00:23:46,391 I'm a good agent. 618 00:23:46,458 --> 00:23:48,193 I've done nothing wrong. 619 00:23:48,260 --> 00:23:51,730 The case of Donny Thurman versus Arliss Michaels is complex, 620 00:23:51,796 --> 00:23:54,499 far reaching and now, over. 621 00:23:54,566 --> 00:23:57,035 What could've been a landmark decision in the sports world 622 00:23:57,102 --> 00:23:59,571 will merely now become a footnote, 623 00:23:59,638 --> 00:24:01,539 for late last night a settlement was reached 624 00:24:01,606 --> 00:24:04,042 between the two seemingly intractable parties. 625 00:24:04,109 --> 00:24:06,444 That's right, they made a deal. 626 00:24:06,511 --> 00:24:07,712 Terms were not disclosed, 627 00:24:07,779 --> 00:24:10,749 but both sides shook hands and walked away smiling. 628 00:24:10,815 --> 00:24:14,119 I guess that's what being a good agent is all about. 629 00:24:14,185 --> 00:24:16,421 Man: Come on, Dream Team. Picture's up! 630 00:24:16,488 --> 00:24:18,390 Camera's ready! Let's move! 631 00:24:18,456 --> 00:24:19,858 Where's Grumpy? Come on, guys. 632 00:24:19,925 --> 00:24:21,626 Come on, Brenda, be ready for you in a sec. 633 00:24:21,693 --> 00:24:22,894 - Gotta move. - Excuse you? 634 00:24:22,961 --> 00:24:24,138 You don't tell me when I'm ready! 635 00:24:24,162 --> 00:24:25,430 I tell you when I'm ready! 636 00:24:25,497 --> 00:24:26,540 Who's the star of this show? 637 00:24:26,564 --> 00:24:27,966 I'm going to my dressing room. 638 00:24:28,033 --> 00:24:29,993 I'm telling you, Donny, this is just the beginning 639 00:24:30,035 --> 00:24:31,903 of Michaels-Thurman Productions. 640 00:24:31,970 --> 00:24:33,505 No more of this $90-million bullshit. 641 00:24:33,571 --> 00:24:35,206 - Let's make a big movie. - You bet. 642 00:24:35,273 --> 00:24:37,142 - By the way, do you know Denzel? - Oh yeah, 643 00:24:37,208 --> 00:24:38,686 - Could you introduce me to Denzel? - You got it. 644 00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:40,045 - Do you know Ving? - Ahh! 645 00:24:40,111 --> 00:24:41,713 - Together: Ving! - (laughs) 646 00:24:41,780 --> 00:24:43,391 - What about Chris Rock? - Yeah, you got him. 647 00:24:43,415 --> 00:24:44,759 Who plays the gay guy on "Spin City"? 648 00:24:44,783 --> 00:24:46,418 Ah, Boatman, Jimmy Boatman. 649 00:24:46,484 --> 00:24:48,720 Armen: His name is Arliss Michaels. 650 00:24:48,787 --> 00:24:50,722 He represents athletes. 651 00:24:50,789 --> 00:24:52,357 This is his story. 652 00:24:52,424 --> 00:24:55,760 ♪ Don't know what it is that makes me love you so ♪ 653 00:24:55,827 --> 00:24:59,164 ♪ I only know I never wanna let you go ♪ 654 00:24:59,230 --> 00:25:02,901 ♪ 'Cause you started something, oh, can't you see ♪ 655 00:25:02,968 --> 00:25:06,471 ♪ That ever since we met you had a hold on me ♪ 656 00:25:06,538 --> 00:25:10,208 ♪ It happens to be true ♪ 657 00:25:10,275 --> 00:25:13,511 ♪ I only wanna be with you ♪ 658 00:25:13,578 --> 00:25:17,282 ♪ It doesn't matter where you go or what you do ♪ 659 00:25:17,349 --> 00:25:20,885 ♪ I want to spend each moment of the day with you ♪ 660 00:25:20,952 --> 00:25:24,823 ♪ Oh, look what has happened with just one kiss ♪ 661 00:25:24,889 --> 00:25:28,393 ♪ I never knew that I could be in love like this ♪ 662 00:25:28,460 --> 00:25:32,063 ♪ It's crazy, but it's true ♪ 663 00:25:32,130 --> 00:25:36,267 ♪ I only wanna be with you ♪ 664 00:25:36,334 --> 00:25:39,237 ♪ You stopped and smiled at me ♪ 665 00:25:39,304 --> 00:25:42,807 ♪ Asked if I cared to dance ♪ 666 00:25:42,874 --> 00:25:46,378 ♪ I fell into your open arms ♪ 667 00:25:46,444 --> 00:25:50,348 And I didn't stand a chance, now listen, honey ♪ 668 00:25:50,415 --> 00:25:53,718 ♪ I just wanna be beside you everywhere ♪ 669 00:25:53,785 --> 00:25:57,088 ♪ As long as we're together, honey, I don't care ♪ 670 00:25:57,155 --> 00:26:00,859 ♪ 'Cause you started something, oh, can't you see ♪ 671 00:26:00,925 --> 00:26:02,460 ♪ That ever since we met ♪ 672 00:26:02,527 --> 00:26:04,696 ♪ You had a hold on me ♪ 673 00:26:04,763 --> 00:26:08,266 ♪ No matter what you do ♪ 674 00:26:08,333 --> 00:26:11,870 ♪ I only wanna be with you ♪ 675 00:26:33,158 --> 00:26:35,260 ♪ Oh, oh, oh, you stopped ♪ 50799

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