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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:18,519 --> 00:00:20,813 Hi, my name is James Fox. 2 00:00:20,896 --> 00:00:25,108 In 2022, I produced and directed a documentary film 3 00:00:25,526 --> 00:00:27,861 - covering an alleged UFO crash - It came, crashed... 4 00:00:27,945 --> 00:00:29,071 -that took place in -It had red eyes... 5 00:00:29,154 --> 00:00:30,614 -Varginha, Brazil, -...cowering and afraid. 6 00:00:30,697 --> 00:00:31,949 in 1996. 7 00:00:33,742 --> 00:00:37,162 Since the film's release, a number of additional 8 00:00:37,246 --> 00:00:40,207 first-hand witnesses continue to come forward. 9 00:00:41,625 --> 00:00:43,126 I saw it clearly. 10 00:00:43,252 --> 00:00:44,253 I could really see it, 11 00:00:44,378 --> 00:00:45,629 a flying cigar. 12 00:00:49,842 --> 00:00:51,593 -Landed. -Wow. 13 00:00:51,885 --> 00:00:52,970 What? I thought, 14 00:00:53,053 --> 00:00:54,847 this thing is not from here. 15 00:00:56,306 --> 00:00:57,891 I was the Chief of Police. 16 00:00:57,975 --> 00:01:00,185 I went to the site where 17 00:01:00,269 --> 00:01:01,770 the creatures 18 00:01:01,854 --> 00:01:03,146 were captured! 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,567 Why are you talking about it now? 20 00:01:07,109 --> 00:01:09,403 Because I trust your work... 21 00:01:10,362 --> 00:01:13,448 You're investigating something that I participated in. 22 00:01:16,660 --> 00:01:19,997 The eyes were shaped like teardrops. 23 00:01:20,372 --> 00:01:23,292 How much time did he spend with the alien in the room? 24 00:01:23,458 --> 00:01:24,501 Five minutes? 25 00:01:25,544 --> 00:01:26,545 Ten? 26 00:01:26,628 --> 00:01:27,921 Give him a moment. 27 00:01:32,175 --> 00:01:33,510 Three or four minutes. 28 00:01:53,447 --> 00:01:56,283 For the first time in history, we've had several 29 00:01:56,366 --> 00:01:58,452 congressional hearings where high-level 30 00:01:58,535 --> 00:02:01,914 intelligence officials have testified under oath 31 00:02:02,039 --> 00:02:05,417 that such crash-retrieval programs have taken place 32 00:02:05,500 --> 00:02:07,628 around the world for decades. 33 00:02:07,794 --> 00:02:11,423 Uh, I was informed in the course of my official duties 34 00:02:11,506 --> 00:02:15,093 of a multi-decade, uh, UAP crash-retrieval 35 00:02:15,177 --> 00:02:17,095 and reverse engineering program. 36 00:02:17,512 --> 00:02:18,847 Who are the contractors 37 00:02:18,931 --> 00:02:21,016 that have this material? The corporations. 38 00:02:21,099 --> 00:02:22,309 Well, one of them is Lockheed. 39 00:02:22,392 --> 00:02:23,518 And I'll tell you, I mean, you know, 40 00:02:23,602 --> 00:02:25,228 I'm not saying Lockheed's the bad guys. 41 00:02:25,354 --> 00:02:26,939 They're doing what they were asked to do. 42 00:02:27,189 --> 00:02:29,942 Have you been exposed to undeniable confirmation 43 00:02:30,025 --> 00:02:32,861 of NHI technology and its base systems 44 00:02:32,945 --> 00:02:36,156 involved in any way with reverse engineering 45 00:02:36,239 --> 00:02:38,951 exploitation of non-human intelligence craft? 46 00:02:39,284 --> 00:02:40,827 We're gonna have to have a conversation 47 00:02:40,911 --> 00:02:42,537 ...whether I'm legally 48 00:02:42,621 --> 00:02:44,289 even allowed to answer that and whether 49 00:02:44,373 --> 00:02:46,166 you're even allowed to hear it, sir. 50 00:02:46,458 --> 00:02:48,961 Are any of you willing to name specific gatekeepers 51 00:02:49,044 --> 00:02:52,089 within the root cell of the UAP-SAP federation? 52 00:02:52,714 --> 00:02:55,217 You mean specific people and contractors that 53 00:02:55,300 --> 00:02:56,843 - have dealt with this and kept the secret? - Specific... 54 00:02:56,927 --> 00:02:58,387 Specific individuals. 55 00:03:01,515 --> 00:03:04,226 Well, one of them, uh, was named Dr. James Ryder 56 00:03:04,810 --> 00:03:06,103 at, uh-- at Lockheed. 57 00:03:07,396 --> 00:03:09,314 Glenn Gaffney, CIA. 58 00:03:09,940 --> 00:03:13,860 When do you think those programs began and who authorized them? 59 00:03:15,654 --> 00:03:17,072 I do know a lot of that information, 60 00:03:17,155 --> 00:03:18,991 but that's something I can't discuss publicly. 61 00:03:19,074 --> 00:03:20,075 Where was it? 62 00:03:20,367 --> 00:03:21,660 I can't tell you that, ma'am. 63 00:03:21,743 --> 00:03:23,328 You specifically said the document said 64 00:03:23,412 --> 00:03:24,997 you can't talk about craft retrieval. 65 00:03:25,414 --> 00:03:26,748 You know, you can't talk about Fight Club 66 00:03:26,832 --> 00:03:28,083 if there's no Fight Club. 67 00:03:29,084 --> 00:03:32,254 This was taken October 30th of 2024. 68 00:03:32,796 --> 00:03:35,090 This video is of an MQ-9 drone 69 00:03:35,173 --> 00:03:37,676 tracking an orb off the coast of Yemen. 70 00:03:38,260 --> 00:03:41,304 Um, you'll see that another MQ-9, 71 00:03:41,596 --> 00:03:44,016 um, launched a Hellfire missile. 72 00:03:49,813 --> 00:03:51,732 This is when is-- it zoomed out, 73 00:03:52,024 --> 00:03:53,859 so you can still see it traveling. 74 00:04:01,283 --> 00:04:03,243 These observations were multi-sensor 75 00:04:03,326 --> 00:04:05,287 and recorded inside of ICC-1. 76 00:04:05,537 --> 00:04:08,290 Tic-tac-shaped object emerged from the ocean 77 00:04:08,373 --> 00:04:09,499 before linking up 78 00:04:09,583 --> 00:04:11,960 with three other sim-- similar objects. 79 00:04:13,211 --> 00:04:15,422 There is something out there, and 80 00:04:15,714 --> 00:04:17,799 we should know, as the people, what it is. 81 00:04:18,550 --> 00:04:21,428 Do you believe that federal government is knowingly 82 00:04:21,511 --> 00:04:24,139 concealing evidence about UAPs from the public? 83 00:04:25,390 --> 00:04:26,391 Yes, sir. 84 00:04:27,851 --> 00:04:28,977 100%. 85 00:04:29,061 --> 00:04:30,062 Yes. 86 00:04:30,937 --> 00:04:31,938 Yes. 87 00:04:35,901 --> 00:04:39,154 What are we actually talking about? 88 00:04:39,571 --> 00:04:42,991 Strong evidence that they're non-human, higher intelligence. 89 00:04:46,745 --> 00:04:48,246 As the regulatory body, 90 00:04:48,955 --> 00:04:50,791 we must know. 91 00:04:51,792 --> 00:04:53,043 Well, let me know when you're ready. 92 00:04:53,210 --> 00:04:54,211 Rollin'. 93 00:04:54,294 --> 00:04:55,295 I'm Eric Davis. 94 00:04:55,420 --> 00:04:56,588 I'm an astrophysicist 95 00:04:56,671 --> 00:04:57,756 and a space nuclear 96 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,591 propulsion and power engineer 97 00:04:59,674 --> 00:05:00,926 in the aerospace industry. 98 00:05:01,051 --> 00:05:04,179 I have worked practically 30 years investigating 99 00:05:04,262 --> 00:05:07,140 the legacy crash retrieval program, 100 00:05:07,224 --> 00:05:10,519 which involves the recovery and reverse engineering studies 101 00:05:10,602 --> 00:05:14,397 of UAP craft and sometimes also the recovery 102 00:05:14,481 --> 00:05:17,484 of NHI bodies, non-human intelligence bodies. 103 00:05:17,859 --> 00:05:19,820 - And, uh... - Dr. Eric W. Davis 104 00:05:19,903 --> 00:05:22,531 is a contractor and scientific consultant 105 00:05:22,614 --> 00:05:25,200 to multiple classified U.S. government, 106 00:05:25,283 --> 00:05:27,661 UAP investigation programs 107 00:05:27,828 --> 00:05:30,872 for the DIA, Office of Naval Intelligence, 108 00:05:30,956 --> 00:05:32,499 and Department of Defense. 109 00:05:33,250 --> 00:05:36,461 In 2025, he briefed members of Congress, 110 00:05:36,545 --> 00:05:39,297 revealing as much unclassified detail 111 00:05:39,381 --> 00:05:41,675 as he could without breaking his oath. 112 00:05:41,842 --> 00:05:44,386 I have been exposed to so much in the classified room 113 00:05:44,469 --> 00:05:45,762 that I can tell you, 114 00:05:46,054 --> 00:05:48,598 definitively that there is-- that they're there. 115 00:05:48,890 --> 00:05:50,934 The frustration from the mainstream media is 116 00:05:51,017 --> 00:05:52,602 these are extraordinary claims. 117 00:05:53,311 --> 00:05:55,897 Mm-hmm. But they're classified, so I can't give you the classified info. 118 00:05:55,981 --> 00:05:57,691 That's what we tell reporters all the time. 119 00:05:58,066 --> 00:05:59,276 Too bad. 120 00:05:59,359 --> 00:06:01,319 Yeah-- Yeah, but what's the answer to that? 121 00:06:06,658 --> 00:06:08,118 Select members of Congress 122 00:06:08,201 --> 00:06:10,245 with the appropriate clearances 123 00:06:10,328 --> 00:06:12,998 do have the ability to enter a SCIF, 124 00:06:13,081 --> 00:06:16,168 a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility, 125 00:06:16,459 --> 00:06:18,795 and receive the classified details 126 00:06:18,879 --> 00:06:20,922 needed to verify these claims. 127 00:06:21,256 --> 00:06:24,009 I know the exact locations, and-- and those locations 128 00:06:24,092 --> 00:06:26,303 were provided to the inspector general 129 00:06:26,386 --> 00:06:28,597 and-- some of which to the intelligence committees. I actually... 130 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,307 During almost 12 hours 131 00:06:30,390 --> 00:06:31,766 in a classified setting, 132 00:06:32,225 --> 00:06:33,768 decorated war veteran and 133 00:06:33,852 --> 00:06:36,646 former intelligence officer-turned-whistleblower, 134 00:06:36,855 --> 00:06:37,981 David Grusch, 135 00:06:38,148 --> 00:06:40,066 provided the Intelligence Community 136 00:06:40,150 --> 00:06:41,359 Inspector General, 137 00:06:41,693 --> 00:06:44,362 Congressional Intelligence Committee staffers, 138 00:06:44,446 --> 00:06:46,948 and their lawyers from both House and Senate 139 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,410 the details needed to verify his claims. 140 00:06:50,869 --> 00:06:51,870 Including, 141 00:06:51,953 --> 00:06:53,330 program names, 142 00:06:53,413 --> 00:06:54,873 the gatekeepers' names, 143 00:06:55,207 --> 00:06:57,792 the specific locations of the materials, 144 00:06:57,876 --> 00:06:59,920 as well as the contractors working with 145 00:07:00,003 --> 00:07:02,047 the government on these programs. 146 00:07:17,562 --> 00:07:19,564 When you say crash retrieval, what do you mean? 147 00:07:19,773 --> 00:07:22,025 Non-human, exotic origin, 148 00:07:22,317 --> 00:07:24,444 vehicles that have either landed or crashed. 149 00:07:24,653 --> 00:07:27,781 We have spacecraft from another species. 150 00:07:28,073 --> 00:07:29,199 We do. Yeah. 151 00:07:29,449 --> 00:07:30,450 It is big news. 152 00:07:30,909 --> 00:07:33,370 Senator Rubio says Grusch is not the only 153 00:07:33,453 --> 00:07:36,373 high-level government official to come forward 154 00:07:36,539 --> 00:07:38,375 with these kinds of claims. 155 00:07:38,708 --> 00:07:40,418 There are others. 156 00:07:40,543 --> 00:07:42,045 There are people that have come forward 157 00:07:42,128 --> 00:07:43,880 to share information with our committee. 158 00:07:44,172 --> 00:07:45,757 I wanna be very protective of these people. 159 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,592 A lot of these people came to us even before 160 00:07:47,676 --> 00:07:49,094 these protections went into law 161 00:07:49,177 --> 00:07:50,595 for whistleblowers to come forward. 162 00:07:50,887 --> 00:07:52,639 And frankly, a lot of them were very fearful. 163 00:07:52,722 --> 00:07:53,723 Fearful of their jobs, 164 00:07:53,807 --> 00:07:54,849 fearful of their clearances, 165 00:07:54,933 --> 00:07:56,184 fearful of their career. 166 00:07:56,434 --> 00:07:58,395 And-- And some, frankly, are-- are 167 00:07:58,478 --> 00:07:59,896 fearful of harm coming to them. 168 00:08:01,273 --> 00:08:03,149 In protest of excessive secrecy 169 00:08:03,233 --> 00:08:05,902 and threats to his family's personal safety, 170 00:08:06,403 --> 00:08:10,115 Grusch resigned just before his 20-year retirement 171 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,951 and thus lost all his benefits. 172 00:08:13,368 --> 00:08:15,287 So you start a-- you do ask yourself, like, 173 00:08:15,370 --> 00:08:17,038 what... incentive 174 00:08:17,122 --> 00:08:20,917 would so many people with that kind of, um, qualification, 175 00:08:21,001 --> 00:08:23,211 these are serious people, have to come forward 176 00:08:23,295 --> 00:08:24,296 and make something up? 177 00:08:26,298 --> 00:08:28,633 I know it's very difficult for the American public 178 00:08:28,717 --> 00:08:32,804 and especially news journalists and reporters to swallow this, 179 00:08:32,887 --> 00:08:35,140 but the fact is you have to remember all of those witnesses, 180 00:08:35,265 --> 00:08:37,642 including Dave Grusch, testified under oath 181 00:08:37,726 --> 00:08:38,893 of penalty of perjury. 182 00:08:39,185 --> 00:08:41,813 So they can't get up there and commit acts of perjury 183 00:08:41,896 --> 00:08:43,064 by lying about it 'cause they know 184 00:08:43,148 --> 00:08:44,441 they'll go to jail and pay a fine. 185 00:08:44,691 --> 00:08:47,777 And he's already told a good chunk of the all 186 00:08:48,153 --> 00:08:50,780 in classified briefings in his SCIF at the Congress, 187 00:08:50,864 --> 00:08:53,658 so they've already got a good picture of 188 00:08:53,742 --> 00:08:55,076 what he found 189 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,829 in his investigation of the crash retrieval, 190 00:08:57,912 --> 00:08:59,789 of the legacy crash retrieval program. 191 00:09:00,332 --> 00:09:01,833 I-- I'm just so curious... 192 00:09:02,125 --> 00:09:04,419 Kirk McConnell recently retired 193 00:09:04,502 --> 00:09:06,588 after serving 37 years 194 00:09:06,671 --> 00:09:08,840 on the Congressional Armed Services 195 00:09:08,923 --> 00:09:10,592 and Intelligence Committees, 196 00:09:10,925 --> 00:09:12,302 where he held the highest, 197 00:09:12,385 --> 00:09:15,055 most compartmented security clearances. 198 00:09:15,847 --> 00:09:16,931 He was also one of the 199 00:09:17,015 --> 00:09:18,558 Senate's lead staffers 200 00:09:18,725 --> 00:09:20,810 investigating UFOs. 201 00:09:21,644 --> 00:09:25,273 People who were involved with, uh, the acknowledged, 202 00:09:25,398 --> 00:09:28,526 uh, DOD program that Harry Reid initiated, 203 00:09:28,610 --> 00:09:33,281 but we were also starting to find some individuals who were 204 00:09:33,365 --> 00:09:35,492 willing to come forward and talk about 205 00:09:35,784 --> 00:09:38,703 the existence of a legacy program 206 00:09:38,787 --> 00:09:41,539 and crash retrievals and the, 207 00:09:42,165 --> 00:09:45,502 you know, uh, biological evidence. 208 00:09:45,585 --> 00:09:47,420 Some of them had firsthand knowledge. 209 00:09:47,879 --> 00:09:51,508 What was it like to be sitting in a SCIF... 210 00:09:52,675 --> 00:09:55,970 ...with these alleged firsthand witnesses? 211 00:09:56,513 --> 00:09:58,765 What were the looks on the senators' faces? 212 00:09:58,848 --> 00:10:01,768 You know, it kind of turns your-- your world upside down, 213 00:10:01,851 --> 00:10:03,353 uh, and it takes a l-- 214 00:10:03,436 --> 00:10:06,648 took a lot of, uh, ps-- psychological adjustment, 215 00:10:06,731 --> 00:10:09,109 uh, to begin to accept, 216 00:10:09,192 --> 00:10:11,277 uh, this kind of reality. 217 00:10:13,238 --> 00:10:15,990 It is mind-blowing to adjust to. 218 00:10:16,241 --> 00:10:17,242 Yeah. 219 00:10:18,284 --> 00:10:19,994 Put me wherever you were 220 00:10:20,078 --> 00:10:21,496 when you got to see photographs 221 00:10:21,579 --> 00:10:23,706 of crash retrieval and documents. 222 00:10:23,790 --> 00:10:25,458 What did that feel like? What did it-- 223 00:10:25,875 --> 00:10:28,086 That was startling when I actually... 224 00:10:28,795 --> 00:10:29,838 ...see... 225 00:10:31,172 --> 00:10:33,800 ...recorded evidence with my own eyes. 226 00:10:33,883 --> 00:10:35,718 Photographs, reports, and whatnot. 227 00:10:35,802 --> 00:10:37,637 That took it to a higher level. 228 00:10:37,887 --> 00:10:40,557 That kicked it up several notches of reality, 229 00:10:41,057 --> 00:10:42,475 and that made it very... 230 00:10:43,476 --> 00:10:46,312 ...clear that this reality is very hard, 231 00:10:46,396 --> 00:10:48,273 very physical, very real, 232 00:10:48,648 --> 00:10:51,025 and, uh, this type of evidence, um, 233 00:10:51,109 --> 00:10:53,111 you can't come by in the open literature. 234 00:10:53,236 --> 00:10:55,113 It's not public. It's classified. 235 00:10:55,196 --> 00:10:56,865 And I can't discuss what it was, 236 00:10:57,031 --> 00:11:00,285 but I can tell you, yeah, it's a crash retrieval. 237 00:11:00,785 --> 00:11:03,329 There's a craft, and there's alien bodies. 238 00:11:04,873 --> 00:11:06,249 That's all I can say about it. 239 00:11:06,332 --> 00:11:08,585 You swear on your life that you saw those pictures? 240 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,753 Oh, I swear on my life and everybody's, 241 00:11:10,837 --> 00:11:12,881 my-- my children's life, so... 242 00:11:13,298 --> 00:11:14,966 Yeah, I'm absolutel telling you the truth. 243 00:11:15,049 --> 00:11:17,760 I saw the evidence, and it's stark. 244 00:11:21,055 --> 00:11:22,682 I can't tell you the exact number, 245 00:11:22,765 --> 00:11:24,017 -Yeah. -'cause it's classified, 246 00:11:24,100 --> 00:11:26,436 but I'll just say it, there's a few dozen 247 00:11:26,519 --> 00:11:28,271 total retrievals. 248 00:11:28,438 --> 00:11:29,564 1930s... 249 00:11:30,148 --> 00:11:31,149 -...crash retrieval? -Yes. 250 00:11:31,232 --> 00:11:32,442 Yes, it's in the classified record 251 00:11:32,525 --> 00:11:33,693 that that's a real event. 252 00:11:33,776 --> 00:11:35,320 -1940s? -Yes. 253 00:11:35,945 --> 00:11:37,405 - Roswell and... - As incredible 254 00:11:37,489 --> 00:11:40,325 as these reports appear, they are nothing new. 255 00:11:40,408 --> 00:11:42,035 ...in 53 and one in 58. But there are others. 256 00:11:42,285 --> 00:11:44,162 So when do you think this first occurred? 257 00:11:44,245 --> 00:11:45,497 Previously, 1930s. 258 00:11:52,504 --> 00:11:55,048 Investigative reporter, magazine editor, 259 00:11:55,131 --> 00:11:58,593 and UFO researcher Maurizio Baiata. 260 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,762 In 1933, 261 00:12:00,845 --> 00:12:03,306 some disk-shaped object... 262 00:12:04,098 --> 00:12:06,226 ...crashed not so far from here. 263 00:12:08,394 --> 00:12:10,605 Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini 264 00:12:10,688 --> 00:12:13,483 reportedly got his hands on the UFO. 265 00:12:14,859 --> 00:12:19,239 According to an age-verified top-secret Italian telegram, 266 00:12:19,322 --> 00:12:21,908 Mussolini ordered absolute silence 267 00:12:21,991 --> 00:12:23,618 regarding the alleged landing 268 00:12:23,701 --> 00:12:26,871 on national soil of an unknown aircraft. 269 00:12:28,081 --> 00:12:30,542 "Maximum penalty for noncompliance 270 00:12:30,625 --> 00:12:34,712 will be enforced by the Special Tribunal for State Security." 271 00:12:35,463 --> 00:12:41,386 Mussolini and the fascist regime will have the chance to develop, 272 00:12:41,803 --> 00:12:44,472 um, new technology out of that stuff, you kn-- 273 00:12:44,556 --> 00:12:47,517 if it came really, uh, from space. 274 00:12:48,434 --> 00:12:50,395 Some of these crash retrieval programs... 275 00:12:50,478 --> 00:12:52,939 According to sworn congressional testimony, 276 00:12:53,314 --> 00:12:56,401 the 1933 Magenta UFO 277 00:12:56,484 --> 00:13:00,363 was acquired by the Americans at the end of World War II. 278 00:13:03,157 --> 00:13:06,035 Headline edition, July 8th, 1947. 279 00:13:06,286 --> 00:13:08,746 The Army Air Forces has announced that a flying disk 280 00:13:08,830 --> 00:13:12,041 has been found and is now in the possession of the Army. 281 00:13:12,625 --> 00:13:15,253 The 509th Bomb Squadron, 282 00:13:15,336 --> 00:13:17,839 based at Roswell Army Airfield, 283 00:13:17,964 --> 00:13:20,091 was an elite, hand-selected unit 284 00:13:20,174 --> 00:13:22,135 exclusively responsible 285 00:13:22,218 --> 00:13:26,055 for the deployment of atomic weapons in 1947. 286 00:13:26,598 --> 00:13:29,601 One of the first military personnel on the site 287 00:13:29,934 --> 00:13:33,354 was Chief Intelligence Officer Major Jesse Marcel. 288 00:13:33,688 --> 00:13:35,481 Being an intelligence officer, I was familiar with just about 289 00:13:35,565 --> 00:13:36,941 every-- all materials used 290 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,902 in aircraft and in our air travel. 291 00:13:40,820 --> 00:13:42,071 This was nothing like that. 292 00:13:42,238 --> 00:13:44,490 It was not anything from this Earth 293 00:13:44,657 --> 00:13:46,075 that I'm quite sure of. 294 00:13:49,871 --> 00:13:52,040 May 19, 1953. 295 00:13:52,415 --> 00:13:56,294 A 32-kiloton fission bomb nicknamed Hamlet 296 00:13:56,377 --> 00:14:00,340 is exploded at the Yucca Flat nuclear test site in Nevada. 297 00:14:01,424 --> 00:14:03,968 Two days later, witnesses would report 298 00:14:04,052 --> 00:14:06,971 a UFO recovery in Kingman, Arizona, 299 00:14:07,347 --> 00:14:09,307 roughly 100 miles away. 300 00:14:09,390 --> 00:14:11,684 A UFO crashed in Kingman 301 00:14:11,768 --> 00:14:13,561 back in 1953, 302 00:14:13,645 --> 00:14:15,813 and then the aircraft was seized by the Air Force. 303 00:14:16,314 --> 00:14:19,692 According to a 1973 sworn affidavit 304 00:14:19,776 --> 00:14:23,529 by Wright-Patterson Air Force engineer Arthur Stansel, 305 00:14:23,946 --> 00:14:26,741 known under the alias of Fritz Werner, 306 00:14:27,450 --> 00:14:30,411 "I do solemnly swear that during a special assignment 307 00:14:30,495 --> 00:14:32,038 with the U.S. Air Force 308 00:14:32,121 --> 00:14:34,999 on May 21st, 1953, 309 00:14:35,416 --> 00:14:38,127 I assisted the investigation of a crashed, 310 00:14:38,419 --> 00:14:42,048 unknown object in the vicinity of Kingman, Arizona." 311 00:14:42,548 --> 00:14:44,842 And the revelations didn't stop there. 312 00:14:44,967 --> 00:14:48,054 He has a program of monitoring these crazy... 313 00:14:48,137 --> 00:14:50,807 Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense 314 00:14:50,890 --> 00:14:53,309 for Intelligence, Christopher Mellon, 315 00:14:53,518 --> 00:14:56,729 made public a previously secret correspondence 316 00:14:56,813 --> 00:14:59,607 with a high-level government official who shared 317 00:14:59,691 --> 00:15:02,610 specific details of the Kingman incident. 318 00:15:02,735 --> 00:15:03,736 ...recovered. 319 00:15:04,028 --> 00:15:05,822 We're dealing with the recovered UAP 320 00:15:05,905 --> 00:15:08,950 that landed, not crashed, landed 321 00:15:09,033 --> 00:15:11,577 in Kingman, Arizona, in the 50s. 322 00:15:12,286 --> 00:15:14,414 We now know the management structure 323 00:15:14,497 --> 00:15:16,541 and security control systems 324 00:15:16,624 --> 00:15:19,168 and ownership of the crash retrieval. 325 00:15:19,585 --> 00:15:21,921 We also know who the Air Force gatekeeper is, 326 00:15:22,004 --> 00:15:23,047 and he names him. 327 00:15:24,590 --> 00:15:27,051 Mellon provided an unredacted copy 328 00:15:27,135 --> 00:15:29,053 to select members of Congress. 329 00:15:33,015 --> 00:15:35,727 On the 9th of December, 1965, 330 00:15:35,977 --> 00:15:38,646 residents across Ontario, Michigan, 331 00:15:38,730 --> 00:15:41,941 Ohio, and Pennsylvania reported a brilliant, 332 00:15:42,024 --> 00:15:44,944 unknown object streaking across the sky 333 00:15:45,611 --> 00:15:49,240 before it crash-landed near Kecksburg, Pennsylvania. 334 00:15:49,741 --> 00:15:52,118 I had seen it out of our bedroom window. 335 00:15:52,201 --> 00:15:54,579 The wife and I came to this spot right here. 336 00:15:56,247 --> 00:15:58,750 They tried to get down to the woods where the object fell. 337 00:15:58,875 --> 00:16:00,752 They were confronted by armed soldiers 338 00:16:00,835 --> 00:16:02,545 who aimed their rifles at them. 339 00:16:04,589 --> 00:16:06,466 It didn't drop out of the sky. 340 00:16:07,592 --> 00:16:09,719 It had to come in on an angle. 341 00:16:10,344 --> 00:16:12,054 The wife and I came from Greensburg. 342 00:16:12,138 --> 00:16:13,681 The military was already here. 343 00:16:15,558 --> 00:16:17,894 How did the military get here so quick? 344 00:16:19,395 --> 00:16:23,649 There was jeeps and trucks, guys in-- in uniform, 345 00:16:23,941 --> 00:16:25,401 along with state police, 346 00:16:26,194 --> 00:16:28,571 and just converged on the area 347 00:16:28,654 --> 00:16:30,990 where that thing had come down. 348 00:16:32,909 --> 00:16:37,997 Behind me, there was a truck pulled in, big box truck. 349 00:16:38,247 --> 00:16:41,626 There was four people got out of that, that I seen. 350 00:16:41,709 --> 00:16:43,795 They were carrying a box. 351 00:16:44,003 --> 00:16:46,631 These guys were dressed in moon suits. 352 00:16:46,714 --> 00:16:49,675 Four people got out in the moon suits, 353 00:16:49,801 --> 00:16:52,678 and they took that box down and took it down 354 00:16:52,762 --> 00:16:55,473 toward where the object had landed. 355 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,186 The Kecksburg UFO incident took place 356 00:17:00,269 --> 00:17:03,856 inside the U.S. Army's so-called Ring of Steel, 357 00:17:04,315 --> 00:17:08,110 a defensive circle of nuclear-tipped Hercules missiles 358 00:17:08,194 --> 00:17:09,570 surrounding Pittsburgh. 359 00:17:10,196 --> 00:17:13,449 Some of those sites were only 15 miles away. 360 00:17:15,660 --> 00:17:18,037 A number of firsthand witnesses reported 361 00:17:18,120 --> 00:17:20,540 seeing an acorn-shaped object 362 00:17:20,623 --> 00:17:23,167 with strange symbols across the bottom 363 00:17:23,251 --> 00:17:25,336 before the military arrived. 364 00:17:27,171 --> 00:17:29,173 Went out of there around 1 o'clock in the morning 365 00:17:29,257 --> 00:17:31,843 with a tarp over it, with a military escort. 366 00:17:32,385 --> 00:17:34,428 I was told by independent sources 367 00:17:34,512 --> 00:17:37,598 it went to Lockbourne Air Force Base near Columbus, Ohio. 368 00:17:37,682 --> 00:17:39,517 It stayed there under heavy security. 369 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,353 They had a security perimeter set up around the hangar. 370 00:17:42,436 --> 00:17:44,313 It only stayed there for a short time, 371 00:17:44,397 --> 00:17:47,024 then it continued on to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. 372 00:17:47,233 --> 00:17:49,026 Where it's at today, we do not know. 373 00:17:50,611 --> 00:17:53,739 What suggests that it is not human-made 374 00:17:53,823 --> 00:17:56,117 is the fact that the craft was seen 375 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,160 making zigzag turns in the sky. 376 00:17:58,244 --> 00:18:00,204 It wasn't just like it came crashing down. 377 00:18:00,288 --> 00:18:02,415 It was actually maneuvering in the sky 378 00:18:02,498 --> 00:18:04,083 before it landed, 379 00:18:04,166 --> 00:18:06,335 and it really more landed than crashed. 380 00:18:06,419 --> 00:18:08,754 So the other thing that's interesting about it to me is 381 00:18:08,838 --> 00:18:11,549 if it really wasn't something really, really, really 382 00:18:11,632 --> 00:18:13,259 significant, why not just release 383 00:18:13,342 --> 00:18:15,386 the data about it after all these years? 384 00:18:17,221 --> 00:18:21,100 In 1980, a joint British and U.S. air base, 385 00:18:21,183 --> 00:18:23,603 RAF Bentwaters/Woodbridge, 386 00:18:23,686 --> 00:18:25,438 contained the largest stockpile 387 00:18:25,521 --> 00:18:27,982 of tactical nuclear weapons in Europe. 388 00:18:29,442 --> 00:18:31,319 It was here that a triangular, 389 00:18:31,402 --> 00:18:34,405 somewhat pyramid-shaped UFO landed. 390 00:18:36,782 --> 00:18:39,327 Military Officer Sergeant Jim Penniston 391 00:18:39,410 --> 00:18:43,456 inspected the strange craft for over 45 minutes 392 00:18:43,539 --> 00:18:45,124 as it sat on the ground. 393 00:18:45,791 --> 00:18:48,002 The feeling I had during the encounter was like... 394 00:18:48,669 --> 00:18:51,088 ...no type of aircraft that I've ever seen before. 395 00:18:51,172 --> 00:18:52,423 It was not in the 396 00:18:52,506 --> 00:18:54,133 Jane's book of known aircraft, 397 00:18:54,216 --> 00:18:56,052 or anything I've seen since. 398 00:18:56,302 --> 00:18:58,763 After roughly about 45 minutes, 399 00:18:58,846 --> 00:19:01,766 the light from the craft began to intensify. 400 00:19:02,058 --> 00:19:04,477 Burroughs and I then took a defensive position 401 00:19:05,144 --> 00:19:07,480 away from the craft as it lifted off the ground 402 00:19:07,563 --> 00:19:08,898 without any noise 403 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:10,691 or air disturbance. 404 00:19:10,942 --> 00:19:12,068 It maneuvered through the trees 405 00:19:12,151 --> 00:19:14,195 and shot off at an unbelievable... 406 00:19:15,196 --> 00:19:16,197 ...rate of speed. 407 00:19:16,656 --> 00:19:18,532 It was gone in a blink of an eye. 408 00:19:18,991 --> 00:19:21,202 In my law book that I have right here, 409 00:19:21,953 --> 00:19:23,079 I wrote, 410 00:19:23,204 --> 00:19:25,456 "Speed, impossible." 411 00:19:25,957 --> 00:19:29,961 That night, over 80 Air Force personnel, 412 00:19:30,336 --> 00:19:32,338 all trained observers, assigned 413 00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:35,466 to the 81st Security Police Squadron witnessed the takeoff. 414 00:19:35,925 --> 00:19:38,177 The information acquired during that investigation 415 00:19:38,260 --> 00:19:40,304 was reported through my military channels. 416 00:19:40,596 --> 00:19:42,390 The team and witnesses were told 417 00:19:42,723 --> 00:19:45,142 to treat the investigation as top secret. 418 00:19:50,064 --> 00:19:52,608 There are many other reports from around the world 419 00:19:52,692 --> 00:19:55,778 of landed and/or crashed UFOs, 420 00:19:56,112 --> 00:19:57,780 but the most well-documented 421 00:19:57,863 --> 00:20:00,074 and compelling case in modern history 422 00:20:00,366 --> 00:20:03,869 took place just outside the heavily populated city 423 00:20:03,953 --> 00:20:08,290 of Varginha, Brazil in January of 1996. 424 00:20:10,626 --> 00:20:13,337 According to credible first-hand reports, 425 00:20:13,504 --> 00:20:16,132 several aliens survived the crash. 426 00:20:21,971 --> 00:20:23,806 Many people believe this 427 00:20:23,889 --> 00:20:25,641 is about an extraterrestrial. 428 00:20:25,725 --> 00:20:27,226 It's been said the being 429 00:20:27,309 --> 00:20:29,228 was captured by the authorities 430 00:20:29,311 --> 00:20:31,814 and is being kept hidden somewhere. 431 00:20:31,981 --> 00:20:34,275 The strange creature was captured 432 00:20:34,358 --> 00:20:36,527 and taken to another state. 433 00:20:36,610 --> 00:20:38,863 The commanding General gave a statement 434 00:20:38,946 --> 00:20:40,364 denying the whole story. 435 00:20:40,489 --> 00:20:43,075 We have nothing to hide. 436 00:20:43,367 --> 00:20:44,577 It was losing altitude. 437 00:20:44,869 --> 00:20:47,955 It would glide and slowly lose altitude 438 00:20:48,039 --> 00:20:49,331 as it moved ahead. 439 00:20:49,415 --> 00:20:51,000 If true, 440 00:20:51,083 --> 00:20:53,044 call it another Roswell, if you will. 441 00:20:53,794 --> 00:20:58,507 It is a crashed vehicle that had beings on board, apparently. 442 00:20:59,133 --> 00:21:02,970 Can she say what feeling she got from the picture? 443 00:21:03,387 --> 00:21:04,680 He was 444 00:21:04,764 --> 00:21:06,307 scared 445 00:21:06,390 --> 00:21:08,434 and hiding from something. 446 00:21:10,728 --> 00:21:12,438 The Varginha case is considered... 447 00:21:13,439 --> 00:21:14,565 ...the most... 448 00:21:16,025 --> 00:21:17,693 ...well-kept secret... 449 00:21:19,361 --> 00:21:21,280 ...in the military circles of Brazil. 450 00:21:36,545 --> 00:21:38,964 We're in São Paulo, Brazil. 451 00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:41,550 About to go and investigate 452 00:21:41,842 --> 00:21:44,845 the infamous 1996 Varginha UFO incident. 453 00:21:45,221 --> 00:21:47,515 My objective here in Brazil is to put some clarity 454 00:21:47,598 --> 00:21:49,475 on what happened and... 455 00:21:49,892 --> 00:21:52,436 ...where this debris ultimately ended up. 456 00:21:55,272 --> 00:21:57,149 You could just say hypothetically for a moment, 457 00:21:57,274 --> 00:21:58,317 if it did happen... 458 00:21:59,318 --> 00:22:01,487 ...how significant of an event would it be? 459 00:22:01,695 --> 00:22:03,489 I bet you that everyone would say, 460 00:22:03,781 --> 00:22:05,991 "There's nothing more significant than this story." 461 00:22:06,075 --> 00:22:07,243 If it were true. 462 00:22:07,326 --> 00:22:10,037 I just ask people to suspend judgment, 463 00:22:10,871 --> 00:22:12,581 listen to the testimony, 464 00:22:12,998 --> 00:22:14,708 and then draw your own conclusions. 465 00:22:16,085 --> 00:22:17,461 Hey, uh... 466 00:22:17,837 --> 00:22:20,756 We're just gonna drop me off, or something, get some drinks, 467 00:22:21,132 --> 00:22:22,758 while they go around the block or wait. 468 00:22:23,884 --> 00:22:25,761 Upon arrival in Varginha, 469 00:22:25,845 --> 00:22:28,222 the filmmakers wanna hear from locals 470 00:22:28,305 --> 00:22:29,640 -regarding the alleged -Alright. 471 00:22:29,723 --> 00:22:32,309 1996 UFO crash. 472 00:22:34,979 --> 00:22:37,940 A large monument in the shape of a flying saucer 473 00:22:38,023 --> 00:22:41,819 is a clear indication that the town embraces the story. 474 00:22:42,528 --> 00:22:45,030 Armed with handmade signs that read, 475 00:22:45,239 --> 00:22:49,660 "If anyone knows what happened in 1996, please talk to us." 476 00:22:49,827 --> 00:22:51,954 The team takes to the streets. 477 00:22:52,705 --> 00:22:55,332 What does he think about the case? Does he think it happened or didn't happen? 478 00:22:55,416 --> 00:22:57,418 It's possible. - What are your feelings 479 00:22:57,501 --> 00:22:58,502 on Varginha? 480 00:22:58,586 --> 00:22:59,795 I believe. 481 00:23:00,004 --> 00:23:02,756 I believe in what the girls said they saw. 482 00:23:02,965 --> 00:23:06,218 I really believe the E.T. case in Varginha. 483 00:23:09,180 --> 00:23:12,391 The 1996 Varginha UFO incident, what do you think? 484 00:23:12,641 --> 00:23:14,310 Well, I believe yes. 485 00:23:14,393 --> 00:23:18,731 I think the universe is big, and that it probably happened. 486 00:23:28,365 --> 00:23:30,659 So, a lot of people in this town 487 00:23:30,743 --> 00:23:32,161 have a little piece of the puzzle. 488 00:23:32,244 --> 00:23:33,871 We were only here for an hour and a half, 489 00:23:33,954 --> 00:23:35,122 and I can't believe how many people 490 00:23:35,206 --> 00:23:36,290 we got to come forward. 491 00:23:36,373 --> 00:23:37,499 What I love about this case 492 00:23:37,583 --> 00:23:39,043 is it's recent enough 493 00:23:39,335 --> 00:23:41,170 where people either heard accounts 494 00:23:41,253 --> 00:23:43,130 or experienced things themselves. 495 00:23:44,757 --> 00:23:47,593 So right now, we are going to meet 496 00:23:47,676 --> 00:23:51,263 with the mayor of Varginha. 497 00:23:52,097 --> 00:23:54,516 So I'm very curious if an elected official 498 00:23:54,934 --> 00:23:58,395 will talk about the-- the details of the-- of the case 499 00:23:58,479 --> 00:23:59,730 and whether he believes 500 00:23:59,813 --> 00:24:00,981 - it really happened. - Yes. 501 00:24:01,148 --> 00:24:03,484 - Yes. - These-- these sorts of things. 502 00:24:09,156 --> 00:24:11,867 A pleasure to meet you, Mr. Vérdi. 503 00:24:13,369 --> 00:24:14,620 It's my pleasure. 504 00:24:15,913 --> 00:24:17,998 I believe for sure 505 00:24:18,082 --> 00:24:20,251 that this case happened, 506 00:24:20,334 --> 00:24:22,503 because so many events 507 00:24:22,586 --> 00:24:24,255 are connected. 508 00:24:24,338 --> 00:24:26,674 Suddenly you see the Army in the city, 509 00:24:26,757 --> 00:24:28,509 lots of people saw the Army here. 510 00:24:28,592 --> 00:24:31,679 Then, the death of a person 511 00:24:31,762 --> 00:24:33,806 who participated at the time, 512 00:24:33,889 --> 00:24:35,516 an ex-police officer, 513 00:24:35,599 --> 00:24:38,018 and the girls with whom I had contact, 514 00:24:38,102 --> 00:24:42,022 one was my nephew's girlfriend... 515 00:24:42,147 --> 00:24:45,442 So, I am convinced that this happened. 516 00:25:00,291 --> 00:25:04,878 Put me on that farm in January of 1996. 517 00:25:04,962 --> 00:25:05,963 What happened? 518 00:25:06,714 --> 00:25:09,800 It was because of the noise from the cows. 519 00:25:10,050 --> 00:25:12,428 They were running around the house. 520 00:25:12,511 --> 00:25:14,346 That's what got my attention. 521 00:25:14,430 --> 00:25:16,056 Then I looked out the window and saw 522 00:25:16,724 --> 00:25:17,808 an object passing by, 523 00:25:17,891 --> 00:25:18,934 and then I called him. 524 00:25:19,226 --> 00:25:22,354 The object had a school bus shape. 525 00:25:23,605 --> 00:25:24,898 The size of a school bus. 526 00:25:25,649 --> 00:25:27,943 And... no noise at all. 527 00:25:28,652 --> 00:25:31,864 We kept looking because of all the smoke coming from it, 528 00:25:32,197 --> 00:25:34,033 clear white smoke around it. 529 00:25:34,658 --> 00:25:36,160 I even joked with her: What is that? 530 00:25:36,243 --> 00:25:38,829 It looks like a submarine! Because it was floating. 531 00:25:40,205 --> 00:25:41,623 And we kept watching it, 532 00:25:42,291 --> 00:25:43,334 until it disappeared. 533 00:25:43,584 --> 00:25:44,835 I stood still. 534 00:25:44,918 --> 00:25:48,255 I was listening to see if I could hear it fall. 535 00:25:48,797 --> 00:25:51,467 And he was looking out the window, watching. 536 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,802 It looked like a cigar shape... 537 00:25:54,803 --> 00:25:55,846 ...long like this... 538 00:25:57,097 --> 00:25:58,307 ...like a cigar. 539 00:26:00,851 --> 00:26:03,520 Its speed made it look like it was in trouble. 540 00:26:05,939 --> 00:26:07,358 It passed by very slowly. 541 00:26:11,028 --> 00:26:14,990 Roughly 20 miles as the crow flies from the couple's sighting, 542 00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:18,660 farmer Fabio Furtado encountered a similar object. 543 00:26:19,036 --> 00:26:20,621 From here, I saw, 544 00:26:20,704 --> 00:26:21,997 it flew past here. 545 00:26:22,373 --> 00:26:24,249 It was moving like this, over there. 546 00:26:24,917 --> 00:26:26,126 I was watching it from here, 547 00:26:26,210 --> 00:26:27,336 it was moving like this, 548 00:26:27,419 --> 00:26:28,462 exactly here, 549 00:26:28,754 --> 00:26:30,339 and it landed over there. 550 00:26:34,551 --> 00:26:35,594 When it landed, 551 00:26:35,677 --> 00:26:37,971 kind of close by, 552 00:26:38,055 --> 00:26:39,098 what do you think? 553 00:26:39,181 --> 00:26:40,224 "It's coming here!" 554 00:26:41,809 --> 00:26:42,810 What? I thought, 555 00:26:42,893 --> 00:26:44,311 "This thing is not from here." 556 00:26:45,854 --> 00:26:47,439 We closed all the windows, 557 00:26:47,773 --> 00:26:50,025 we locked ourselves inside, and didn't leave for anything. 558 00:26:50,109 --> 00:26:51,944 We didn't leave until dawn. 559 00:26:53,695 --> 00:26:55,280 I saw it clearly. 560 00:26:55,364 --> 00:26:58,033 I could really see it, very clearly, an object, 561 00:26:58,534 --> 00:27:00,702 different, a flying cigar. 562 00:27:05,374 --> 00:27:07,835 -Landed. It landed there. -Wow. 563 00:27:08,627 --> 00:27:09,962 Then you weren't able to see 564 00:27:10,045 --> 00:27:11,547 -anything? -I closed everything up. 565 00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:13,173 And then he closed everything, and... 566 00:27:13,298 --> 00:27:15,884 And like it's said, we ran to the bathroom! 567 00:27:15,968 --> 00:27:18,887 - Yeah. Yeah. - To clean ourselves. 568 00:27:18,971 --> 00:27:20,389 You can't... Can you imagine? 569 00:27:20,472 --> 00:27:21,890 What was that? 570 00:27:25,227 --> 00:27:26,937 My name is Carlos de Sousa. 571 00:27:27,396 --> 00:27:31,483 I was here on this road in 1996, 572 00:27:32,109 --> 00:27:33,986 when the UFO crash happened. 573 00:27:34,069 --> 00:27:37,281 I'm here today to tell my story. 574 00:27:40,576 --> 00:27:41,869 Três Corações. 575 00:27:42,077 --> 00:27:43,495 The crash was here. 576 00:27:45,539 --> 00:27:48,208 January 13th, 1996. 577 00:27:48,584 --> 00:27:52,880 Carlos de Sousa is traveling from São Paulo to Minas Gerais 578 00:27:53,130 --> 00:27:56,175 early in the morning, planning to meet with friends 579 00:27:56,258 --> 00:27:58,260 to fly ultralight planes. 580 00:27:58,677 --> 00:28:00,637 That's where everything happened. 581 00:28:01,555 --> 00:28:03,932 Crash witness Carlos de Sousa 582 00:28:04,016 --> 00:28:07,769 describes a similar object in this exclusive interview. 583 00:28:07,853 --> 00:28:09,980 The side of it was completely torn, 584 00:28:10,522 --> 00:28:12,357 and it had white smoke coming out. 585 00:28:12,441 --> 00:28:14,568 It wasn't black smoke like from a fire. 586 00:28:14,735 --> 00:28:17,446 At the time, I thought it was... 587 00:28:19,823 --> 00:28:22,784 ...like an aircraft in trouble, an airplane, 588 00:28:22,868 --> 00:28:24,495 so I decided to follow it. 589 00:28:25,037 --> 00:28:27,789 An object coming this way, 590 00:28:27,873 --> 00:28:31,251 with this part... torn off. 591 00:28:32,461 --> 00:28:36,256 It headed toward the highway. 592 00:28:36,882 --> 00:28:39,301 I was driving on the freeway, down below. 593 00:28:39,384 --> 00:28:41,178 It was at a height of about 594 00:28:42,596 --> 00:28:44,681 ...400, 300 meters or so. 595 00:28:44,765 --> 00:28:47,267 And it was losing altitude. 596 00:28:48,602 --> 00:28:50,354 Losing, losing altitude. 597 00:28:50,437 --> 00:28:52,981 It went all the way to the road. 598 00:28:53,065 --> 00:28:59,655 On the road, it made a 360º turn... 599 00:29:02,866 --> 00:29:05,369 ...and came, kept losing altitude, 600 00:29:05,452 --> 00:29:07,996 then it gained altitude again. 601 00:29:08,497 --> 00:29:09,957 And when it arrived 602 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,751 approximately from where I am, about 603 00:29:13,418 --> 00:29:15,295 100 meters, 150 meters, 604 00:29:15,379 --> 00:29:19,383 the engines totally died, and it went down. 605 00:29:20,926 --> 00:29:24,179 As if it couldn't sustain... the necessary lifting force to fly. 606 00:29:24,263 --> 00:29:27,099 It totally lost it and went "puff" to the ground. 607 00:29:30,811 --> 00:29:35,440 There must be some people... in there, 608 00:29:35,524 --> 00:29:38,902 and those people are going to need help right now. 609 00:29:42,739 --> 00:29:44,658 Now 26 years later, 610 00:29:44,741 --> 00:29:47,327 the team travels with Carlos de Sousa 611 00:29:47,411 --> 00:29:49,121 to find the crash site. 612 00:30:01,925 --> 00:30:02,968 Turn around. 613 00:30:04,177 --> 00:30:05,804 Alright. 614 00:30:05,929 --> 00:30:07,889 - Careful, the dust. - He's trying to remember. 615 00:30:07,973 --> 00:30:10,017 - Yes, there is the... Yes. - The top. 616 00:30:10,225 --> 00:30:13,854 I remember passing by two cattle grates. The first, and the second. 617 00:30:14,896 --> 00:30:17,190 If they were inside the house... 618 00:30:17,566 --> 00:30:19,484 If they didn't... How did you know if... 619 00:30:19,568 --> 00:30:21,903 I don't remember... It's been 26 years... 620 00:30:22,321 --> 00:30:24,573 He-- He doesn't, uh... 621 00:30:24,656 --> 00:30:26,491 - remember, - Twenty-six years. 622 00:30:27,034 --> 00:30:28,327 - but he thinks it's this way, - I remember a house 623 00:30:28,410 --> 00:30:30,037 -but it's been 26 years. -and a hill. 624 00:30:30,203 --> 00:30:32,581 Is this looking familiar? There's a house up there. 625 00:30:33,707 --> 00:30:34,875 But if it's close to a house, 626 00:30:34,958 --> 00:30:36,918 then it's gotta be further down this way, 627 00:30:37,002 --> 00:30:38,754 unless the house is gone. 628 00:30:38,837 --> 00:30:40,922 - I think the house is gone. - You do? 629 00:30:41,006 --> 00:30:42,132 - Yeah. - There used to be 630 00:30:42,215 --> 00:30:43,425 trees on this side. 631 00:30:44,051 --> 00:30:46,136 There used to be grass, trees 632 00:30:46,219 --> 00:30:48,263 - Mm-hmm. - and a pasture. Big pasture. 633 00:30:48,513 --> 00:30:50,223 - I mean, I could... - Very big. 634 00:30:50,766 --> 00:30:51,808 More or less around here. 635 00:30:52,059 --> 00:30:53,644 Tell him to stop here. 636 00:30:53,727 --> 00:30:55,437 - He's asking you to stop. - I'm thinking it's right here. 637 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,856 - Stop? - That's it. Please. I'm going out. 638 00:30:57,939 --> 00:30:59,107 - Alright, let's go. - Okay. 639 00:31:22,047 --> 00:31:23,632 That grass was here. 640 00:31:24,508 --> 00:31:27,177 -That grass was around here. -Aquela mata, what does that mean? 641 00:31:27,260 --> 00:31:30,222 Yeah, uh, like, a big grass, it was around here. 642 00:31:30,722 --> 00:31:32,224 - Okay. - There was a small pasture 643 00:31:32,307 --> 00:31:33,433 around here. 644 00:31:35,352 --> 00:31:36,728 Let me go see that tree over there. 645 00:31:36,853 --> 00:31:38,939 - He wants to go there. - Okay, okay. 646 00:31:49,700 --> 00:31:51,243 Something here... 647 00:31:52,577 --> 00:31:55,831 There was a house here. 648 00:31:56,206 --> 00:31:57,290 An house. 649 00:31:58,750 --> 00:31:59,751 A white house. 650 00:31:59,835 --> 00:32:01,336 So it was a white house, 651 00:32:01,420 --> 00:32:02,629 and it was a small house. 652 00:32:02,754 --> 00:32:04,297 -Yeah, it was a small house, -So-- 653 00:32:04,381 --> 00:32:06,967 -and, uh, the grass was burned. -So-- 654 00:32:07,050 --> 00:32:08,218 The grass was burned. 655 00:32:08,301 --> 00:32:09,511 Why was the grass burned? 656 00:32:09,678 --> 00:32:11,596 - Why? - Because it was a chemical substance, 657 00:32:11,805 --> 00:32:13,181 like acid. 658 00:32:13,265 --> 00:32:14,391 By the object? 659 00:32:14,474 --> 00:32:15,642 By the object, by the object. 660 00:32:15,726 --> 00:32:17,561 Because it was a big circle, 661 00:32:18,061 --> 00:32:22,023 more or less 40 meters in diameter, burned. 662 00:32:23,316 --> 00:32:24,693 And the house was around here. 663 00:32:24,776 --> 00:32:26,611 - So is the house gone? - It was around here. 664 00:32:26,695 --> 00:32:27,696 So the house is gone? 665 00:32:28,071 --> 00:32:30,449 Yes, as if it were there. 666 00:32:32,826 --> 00:32:34,703 - It's hard to find, because - He doesn't... 667 00:32:34,786 --> 00:32:37,748 - the only reference I had is gone. - Everything's different. 668 00:32:37,831 --> 00:32:39,124 Taken away. 669 00:32:42,002 --> 00:32:44,045 I mean, it could be here or it could be there. 670 00:32:44,254 --> 00:32:46,214 Could it be here or there? 671 00:32:46,298 --> 00:32:47,466 Or there. 672 00:32:48,175 --> 00:32:49,509 We walk... 673 00:32:49,676 --> 00:32:50,969 over to there and look... 674 00:32:51,678 --> 00:32:52,846 If it's close to the road, 675 00:32:52,929 --> 00:32:54,514 it only can be in a couple places. 676 00:32:56,850 --> 00:32:58,143 Does he wanna walk up closer? 677 00:32:59,352 --> 00:33:02,147 He said the house was close to where the crash was. 678 00:33:02,439 --> 00:33:03,899 - Yeah. - 200 meters. 679 00:33:03,982 --> 00:33:05,484 - Yeah, it's like, uh-- - 600 feet. 680 00:33:05,567 --> 00:33:06,568 It's the Maiolini-- 681 00:33:06,902 --> 00:33:08,653 Uh, Maiolini house-- 682 00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:10,822 Family. Maiolini family. 683 00:33:11,239 --> 00:33:12,657 Well, I-- I say we-- 684 00:33:13,366 --> 00:33:15,118 I say we take a closer look, I mean... 685 00:33:15,202 --> 00:33:16,453 Yeah. 686 00:33:16,536 --> 00:33:17,954 You know? 687 00:33:18,038 --> 00:33:19,122 But, it's not... 688 00:33:19,206 --> 00:33:20,373 Yeah, we gotta do it, man. 689 00:33:20,457 --> 00:33:21,583 We gotta find this spot. 690 00:33:24,586 --> 00:33:25,670 There's a lot of trees. 691 00:33:25,754 --> 00:33:27,005 Is there a house down there? 692 00:33:27,088 --> 00:33:28,256 Yeah, there's a house-- 693 00:33:28,381 --> 00:33:29,925 - Right down through these trees? - Right-- 694 00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:31,009 Yeah. 695 00:33:31,676 --> 00:33:33,845 Well, let's get closer to there, then. 696 00:33:34,221 --> 00:33:36,056 - It was a small house. - Let's drive down the road. 697 00:33:36,473 --> 00:33:37,933 Let's drive down and get closer. 698 00:33:38,433 --> 00:33:39,434 There's a house. 699 00:33:39,726 --> 00:33:40,936 This is a-- a field-- 700 00:33:41,144 --> 00:33:42,687 Yes, yes, yes. 701 00:33:43,104 --> 00:33:44,105 Yes-- Mmm. 702 00:33:45,273 --> 00:33:46,525 Here. 703 00:33:47,234 --> 00:33:48,235 Here! 704 00:33:48,902 --> 00:33:49,903 Here. 705 00:33:49,986 --> 00:33:50,987 Here. 706 00:33:51,071 --> 00:33:52,239 - Here. - Here, here. 707 00:33:52,405 --> 00:33:54,825 - Here. Let's go! - Here, here. It was here. 708 00:33:59,454 --> 00:34:00,997 It was here! 709 00:34:01,790 --> 00:34:02,791 Here. 710 00:34:03,708 --> 00:34:04,835 Here, here. 711 00:34:05,126 --> 00:34:06,127 Wow! 712 00:34:07,712 --> 00:34:09,673 - Here. - This is it. 713 00:34:12,217 --> 00:34:14,052 Here. 714 00:34:16,221 --> 00:34:17,222 Here. 715 00:34:18,306 --> 00:34:19,307 Wow! 716 00:34:19,558 --> 00:34:20,559 It was here! 717 00:34:21,393 --> 00:34:23,478 Here. That tree wasn't there. 718 00:34:24,271 --> 00:34:26,022 You could see the house over there. 719 00:34:26,314 --> 00:34:27,315 Here. 720 00:34:28,108 --> 00:34:29,651 It came, crashed, 721 00:34:30,277 --> 00:34:32,696 rebounded, spread out. 722 00:34:34,030 --> 00:34:35,073 Spread out. 723 00:34:35,156 --> 00:34:37,492 Here. 724 00:34:38,201 --> 00:34:39,202 Here. 725 00:35:06,479 --> 00:35:07,898 It was here. Here. 726 00:35:09,399 --> 00:35:10,400 Here. 727 00:35:24,289 --> 00:35:26,249 That fence was close to the house. 728 00:35:42,724 --> 00:35:44,434 Here is where it crashed. 729 00:35:45,852 --> 00:35:47,187 This is the spot. 730 00:35:57,656 --> 00:35:59,199 Beings died here. 731 00:36:11,836 --> 00:36:13,964 Was this object big enough 732 00:36:14,756 --> 00:36:17,676 to have potentially beings inside? 733 00:36:17,842 --> 00:36:21,304 Yes, it was about the size of a school bus. 734 00:36:21,429 --> 00:36:22,597 A little bigger. 735 00:36:22,806 --> 00:36:23,807 A... 736 00:36:24,099 --> 00:36:26,351 A school bus, school bus. 737 00:36:27,102 --> 00:36:28,812 A little bigger, just a little. 738 00:36:31,439 --> 00:36:33,191 According to Mr. Sousa, 739 00:36:33,441 --> 00:36:37,862 this area was covered with debris from the UFO crash. 740 00:37:04,973 --> 00:37:09,728 This is his first time at the crash site since 1996. 741 00:37:10,770 --> 00:37:13,023 When I arrived at the site, 742 00:37:14,274 --> 00:37:15,567 on this very spot, 743 00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:20,238 uh, I observed a lot of debris, pieces. 744 00:37:20,947 --> 00:37:23,033 And when I got out of the car, 745 00:37:23,116 --> 00:37:26,286 I immediately smelled ammonia, 746 00:37:26,369 --> 00:37:27,829 like rotten eggs. 747 00:37:28,204 --> 00:37:30,081 A very strong smell, 748 00:37:30,165 --> 00:37:32,083 so strong that I had to cover my nose 749 00:37:32,167 --> 00:37:34,252 with the shirt I was wearing. 750 00:37:35,128 --> 00:37:37,881 My eyes got watery. 751 00:37:38,256 --> 00:37:40,467 The first thing I noticed was that it was something 752 00:37:40,550 --> 00:37:42,969 very different from what I expected, 753 00:37:43,053 --> 00:37:44,387 what I was expecting. 754 00:37:44,888 --> 00:37:46,181 First, due to the smell. 755 00:37:47,057 --> 00:37:49,392 That smell made no sense. 756 00:37:52,145 --> 00:37:54,773 And I saw a piece, it looked like it was aluminum, 757 00:37:55,231 --> 00:37:57,734 that foil you wrap chicken for roasting. 758 00:37:58,651 --> 00:38:00,236 I took a sheet. 759 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,363 I took a small piece, it was very light. 760 00:38:02,447 --> 00:38:03,448 Crumpled it, 761 00:38:03,531 --> 00:38:04,741 but when I released it, 762 00:38:04,824 --> 00:38:06,367 it went back to its original shape. 763 00:38:10,121 --> 00:38:13,249 So he gets out of the car, he sees the piece, right? 764 00:38:13,333 --> 00:38:15,668 - Yeah. - He picks the piece up, he folds it-- 765 00:38:15,752 --> 00:38:18,171 He said it was really light and it was shaped kind of like this. 766 00:38:18,463 --> 00:38:20,298 -Yeah. -And then he picks it up, and he fo-- 767 00:38:20,381 --> 00:38:22,383 folded it in and it opens itself up 768 00:38:22,467 --> 00:38:23,760 and it was really light, 769 00:38:23,843 --> 00:38:25,178 -like aluminum. -Yes. 770 00:38:25,512 --> 00:38:29,224 At what point d-- did the military come to him, a-- 771 00:38:29,307 --> 00:38:31,017 -right after that happened? -Yes. 772 00:38:31,101 --> 00:38:33,019 The military came from this way and arrived? 773 00:38:33,103 --> 00:38:34,229 Yeah, uh... 774 00:38:34,312 --> 00:38:36,106 Carlos de Sousa came from here 775 00:38:36,189 --> 00:38:37,982 and the trucks came from that side. 776 00:38:38,149 --> 00:38:39,150 -Okay -You know? 777 00:38:40,276 --> 00:38:41,694 Within minutes, trucks from 778 00:38:41,778 --> 00:38:45,031 the military base ESA arrive on the scene. 779 00:38:45,532 --> 00:38:46,658 -Vai, vai. -Yeah. 780 00:38:46,741 --> 00:38:48,993 - Go away? What-- -Yeah. "Go away, go away." 781 00:38:49,077 --> 00:38:50,662 -Vai embora? -I think s-- I think some guy-- 782 00:38:50,745 --> 00:38:52,831 Go away, go away, go away, go away! 783 00:38:52,914 --> 00:38:54,582 Pushing. "Go away!" 784 00:38:54,666 --> 00:38:56,084 No, but... Then... 785 00:38:57,669 --> 00:39:00,046 Go away! I told you to leave! 786 00:39:00,130 --> 00:39:01,381 I told you to leave. 787 00:39:01,756 --> 00:39:03,424 I'm ordering you to leave." 788 00:39:03,883 --> 00:39:06,427 - What does embora mean? - "Go away". 789 00:39:06,553 --> 00:39:07,804 - Go away? - Go away, go away. 790 00:39:07,887 --> 00:39:09,556 - Go away. - And I'm ordering... 791 00:39:09,639 --> 00:39:10,807 - I'm ordering you? - Yeah. 792 00:39:10,890 --> 00:39:12,392 - I'm ordering you to go away. - Yeah. 793 00:39:12,475 --> 00:39:14,060 - So then he pulled his gun out, - Yes. 794 00:39:14,144 --> 00:39:15,395 -Yeah. -and he said, "I'm ordering you 795 00:39:15,478 --> 00:39:18,523 -to go away." -"Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay." 796 00:39:19,065 --> 00:39:20,066 Right here. 797 00:39:21,067 --> 00:39:22,694 -Wow. -"Okay, okay, okay." 798 00:39:23,236 --> 00:39:24,779 I got in the car and left. 799 00:39:26,281 --> 00:39:29,450 After giving this interview shortly after the incident... 800 00:39:29,576 --> 00:39:31,202 "Go away, go away, go away." 801 00:39:31,286 --> 00:39:35,039 ...Carlos de Sousa vanishes for 26 years. 802 00:39:44,299 --> 00:39:45,884 Mark it. 803 00:39:47,177 --> 00:39:48,178 Okay. 804 00:39:48,386 --> 00:39:49,512 Can we just walk to 805 00:39:49,596 --> 00:39:51,014 exactly where this took place? 806 00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:54,475 Seven days after Sousa witnessed the crash, 807 00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:58,897 Ruber Ladeira leaves this gym when he and several friends 808 00:39:58,980 --> 00:40:01,816 see two military trucks driving into town. 809 00:40:05,069 --> 00:40:07,030 They follow them through the neighborhood 810 00:40:07,363 --> 00:40:10,033 and come upon a military blockade. 811 00:40:10,658 --> 00:40:13,328 More or less, they made a line here. 812 00:40:14,162 --> 00:40:15,663 I can't say precisely, 813 00:40:15,747 --> 00:40:18,416 but there were four or five soldiers here, 814 00:40:18,833 --> 00:40:21,669 and another soldier on the other side of the truck. 815 00:40:22,295 --> 00:40:24,547 All positioned with their rifles pointed down. 816 00:40:26,382 --> 00:40:28,134 One of the people in his group said, 817 00:40:28,218 --> 00:40:30,345 "This is a free country and I'm w-- and I'm going through." 818 00:40:30,678 --> 00:40:32,513 - It was him. Yeah. - It was him? So-- 819 00:40:32,597 --> 00:40:34,557 I said I had the right to come and go, 820 00:40:34,849 --> 00:40:37,227 the constitutional right to come and go. 821 00:40:37,393 --> 00:40:39,395 So he said, "Hey, this is a free country. 822 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,272 I'll do what I want." And then what happens? 823 00:40:43,191 --> 00:40:48,696 All they did was shake their heads' no. 824 00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:50,865 They didn't say anything. 825 00:40:50,949 --> 00:40:53,660 When we tried to force our way through, 826 00:40:53,743 --> 00:40:56,996 they raised their rifles. 827 00:40:57,497 --> 00:41:00,833 Was it scary? Were you guys afraid that day? 828 00:41:02,293 --> 00:41:06,130 I only felt fear when they raised their guns. 829 00:41:06,214 --> 00:41:08,174 Because, I've never seen a gun... 830 00:41:09,175 --> 00:41:10,260 ...so big. 831 00:41:10,343 --> 00:41:14,013 And I've never had someone point a gun at me. 832 00:41:14,597 --> 00:41:16,683 It was the only time I was afraid. 833 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,814 Uh, never before have I ever seen 834 00:41:22,897 --> 00:41:25,566 an army truck in Varginha. 835 00:41:29,696 --> 00:41:31,614 The team headed to meet with one of the lead 836 00:41:31,698 --> 00:41:33,825 reporters at TV Princesa, 837 00:41:34,492 --> 00:41:37,245 who had set out to cover the story at the time. 838 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,999 Absolutely. 839 00:41:42,166 --> 00:41:44,585 Describe what happened back in 1996, 840 00:41:44,669 --> 00:41:46,170 what you witnessed, what you saw. 841 00:41:46,546 --> 00:41:50,258 I witnessed... the weather... 842 00:41:51,134 --> 00:41:53,886 ...close in like there was a huge storm. 843 00:41:54,304 --> 00:41:56,472 I looked out the window, 844 00:41:56,764 --> 00:41:58,933 "Wow! Night fell suddenly." 845 00:41:59,851 --> 00:42:03,062 At that moment, the news started coming in. 846 00:42:03,187 --> 00:42:04,439 Some girls had a sighting. 847 00:42:04,522 --> 00:42:05,606 They saw a creature 848 00:42:06,274 --> 00:42:09,110 near Marc's gymnasium. 849 00:42:09,736 --> 00:42:12,530 I know the city well. 850 00:42:12,613 --> 00:42:15,992 I had a little Volkswagen Beetle, I decided to go check it out. 851 00:42:16,576 --> 00:42:18,578 But when we arrived, 852 00:42:19,245 --> 00:42:20,955 there were Army trucks, 853 00:42:21,039 --> 00:42:23,541 and they said I couldn't pass by here. 854 00:42:24,625 --> 00:42:26,377 I asked why. 855 00:42:26,461 --> 00:42:28,921 This is an issue of national security. 856 00:42:29,047 --> 00:42:31,007 Oh no, I just want to go down to see... 857 00:42:31,090 --> 00:42:34,218 No. You cannot pass, it's a matter of National Security. 858 00:42:34,886 --> 00:42:36,387 For us, it didn't make sense, 859 00:42:36,471 --> 00:42:38,222 or, in fact, it did make sense, 860 00:42:38,556 --> 00:42:41,100 for us at the time, 861 00:42:41,184 --> 00:42:42,477 we were convinced, 862 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,522 there was a cover-up in process. 863 00:42:49,484 --> 00:42:51,277 There's another part, 864 00:42:51,444 --> 00:42:53,446 when the interviews happened. 865 00:42:53,654 --> 00:42:55,990 Euclides and Calado, 866 00:42:56,657 --> 00:42:58,284 two of our boys here, 867 00:42:58,451 --> 00:43:01,537 went to ESA in Tres Coraçoes. 868 00:43:03,581 --> 00:43:05,917 They managed to ask one question, 869 00:43:06,417 --> 00:43:09,045 then the sergeant went inside, came back. 870 00:43:09,128 --> 00:43:10,171 When he came back, 871 00:43:10,254 --> 00:43:12,882 Look, won't you say anything about the case? 872 00:43:12,965 --> 00:43:15,510 If you ask one more question, you'll be arrested. 873 00:43:17,345 --> 00:43:18,471 From ESA. 874 00:43:19,138 --> 00:43:20,139 From ESA. 875 00:43:20,306 --> 00:43:22,266 - So-- - Euclides and Calado. 876 00:43:22,350 --> 00:43:24,685 So, is he saying that the military shut down the press? 877 00:43:24,769 --> 00:43:25,812 - Yes. - Successfully. 878 00:43:25,895 --> 00:43:27,271 -Yes. -They don't have a free press. 879 00:43:27,397 --> 00:43:29,107 -And they say-- - They don't have a free press? 880 00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:30,817 No. If they-- They say 881 00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:33,611 if they would've go, like, investigate further, 882 00:43:34,404 --> 00:43:37,031 they probably would've put them in jail. 883 00:43:39,826 --> 00:43:41,411 We are journalists. 884 00:43:41,536 --> 00:43:44,914 We were conducting investigations on this case 885 00:43:44,997 --> 00:43:48,543 at the ESA headquarters. 886 00:43:48,626 --> 00:43:51,879 And never have I ever received an arrest warrant 887 00:43:51,963 --> 00:43:53,464 for doing my job. 888 00:43:53,548 --> 00:43:54,549 Not ever before, 889 00:43:54,632 --> 00:43:56,050 or after this case. 890 00:43:58,553 --> 00:44:01,514 Just around the corner from the military blockade, 891 00:44:01,889 --> 00:44:05,685 three young girls had an encounter of the third kind. 892 00:44:09,772 --> 00:44:12,733 The sisters, Valquiria, 14 and Liliane, 16 893 00:44:12,817 --> 00:44:14,485 are very scared. 894 00:44:14,902 --> 00:44:17,780 This is the first time they've visited the site 895 00:44:17,864 --> 00:44:20,408 since Saturday, January 20th. 896 00:44:21,117 --> 00:44:24,787 That weird round thing, it was super weird. 897 00:44:24,871 --> 00:44:28,875 There was something like horns on its head. 898 00:44:29,041 --> 00:44:31,461 He had brown skin 899 00:44:31,544 --> 00:44:33,588 that looked like... 900 00:44:33,671 --> 00:44:35,548 - Oil. - ...he put oil on his body. 901 00:44:36,007 --> 00:44:39,427 He had big feet. And very wide, red eyes. 902 00:44:39,844 --> 00:44:41,304 My name is Liliane Silva. 903 00:44:41,387 --> 00:44:45,433 In 1996, I saw a strange creature there. 904 00:44:46,642 --> 00:44:48,352 My name is Valquíria Silva. 905 00:44:48,436 --> 00:44:51,606 In 1996, I saw a strange creature there. 906 00:44:51,939 --> 00:44:53,566 My name is Kátia Xavier. 907 00:44:53,649 --> 00:44:57,820 In 1996, I saw a strange creature there. 908 00:45:00,656 --> 00:45:02,450 Tell us-- walk us through what happened. 909 00:45:03,743 --> 00:45:05,870 What did you see? Where did you see it? 910 00:45:06,537 --> 00:45:08,915 We were walking down along here. 911 00:45:08,998 --> 00:45:11,459 I was in front, and they were a little farther back. 912 00:45:14,045 --> 00:45:15,671 Passing by here, 913 00:45:15,755 --> 00:45:19,091 the graffiti caught my attention. 914 00:45:22,803 --> 00:45:23,804 I looked... 915 00:45:24,889 --> 00:45:26,224 ...and I saw the creature. 916 00:45:27,683 --> 00:45:28,976 Actually, when Liliane screamed, 917 00:45:29,060 --> 00:45:31,729 and I looked at it, I was afraid. 918 00:45:37,527 --> 00:45:39,237 So, I looked in its eyes 919 00:45:40,029 --> 00:45:41,781 and saw that it was frightened. 920 00:45:42,615 --> 00:45:44,033 Just as I was frightened, 921 00:45:44,116 --> 00:45:45,785 the creature was also frightened. 922 00:45:46,619 --> 00:45:49,747 Because what I saw stopped me in my tracks, 923 00:45:49,830 --> 00:45:51,832 it glued me to that spot. 924 00:45:52,375 --> 00:45:55,127 But I saw that it was scared of us. 925 00:45:55,836 --> 00:45:58,339 So, it was an exchange of fears, 926 00:45:58,422 --> 00:46:00,091 its and ours. 927 00:46:00,841 --> 00:46:02,301 It had red eyes, 928 00:46:02,385 --> 00:46:03,761 oily skin... 929 00:46:03,844 --> 00:46:06,430 I couldn't see an open mouth, smiling, no. 930 00:46:06,514 --> 00:46:07,723 Not happy. Sad. 931 00:46:07,807 --> 00:46:08,891 Shrunken back. 932 00:46:08,975 --> 00:46:10,268 A sad expression. 933 00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:12,937 And it didn't have hair. 934 00:46:14,146 --> 00:46:15,773 1996. 935 00:46:15,982 --> 00:46:18,025 Based on the girl's testimony, 936 00:46:18,109 --> 00:46:21,779 artist Bete Rodrigues creates this drawing. 937 00:46:29,203 --> 00:46:30,997 What I find makes their story so credible 938 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,456 is that there were three of them. 939 00:46:32,832 --> 00:46:36,252 I-- I wanna hear from Valquíria, because she was the youngest. 940 00:46:36,502 --> 00:46:38,004 What were her thoughts at the time? 941 00:46:38,087 --> 00:46:39,797 Was she scared? Did you run? 942 00:46:40,131 --> 00:46:41,882 Like, put me there. 943 00:46:46,804 --> 00:46:49,348 It was a creature, there in the corner... 944 00:46:49,473 --> 00:46:51,017 cowering and afraid. 945 00:46:58,399 --> 00:47:01,694 Afraid of us, just as we were afraid of it. 946 00:47:02,194 --> 00:47:04,739 This being that's unknown to us. 947 00:47:07,825 --> 00:47:11,787 These eyes, compared to my eyes, how much bigger? 948 00:47:12,163 --> 00:47:14,290 Three times bigger than ours. 949 00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:16,125 - Three times bigger. - Three-- 950 00:47:16,208 --> 00:47:18,002 -Three times bigger. - Quite big and red. 951 00:47:18,502 --> 00:47:20,171 Red like... 952 00:47:20,254 --> 00:47:21,631 Not blood-red. 953 00:47:22,214 --> 00:47:24,091 I wanna walk over, by the wall, 954 00:47:24,175 --> 00:47:25,217 and I want you to tell me 955 00:47:25,301 --> 00:47:27,470 where exactly the creature was. 956 00:47:27,678 --> 00:47:29,347 The creature was there. 957 00:47:29,472 --> 00:47:30,473 Wow! 958 00:47:30,556 --> 00:47:31,974 And we passed right here. 959 00:47:32,433 --> 00:47:33,434 Pretty close. 960 00:47:33,684 --> 00:47:34,727 Then I screamed, 961 00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:36,854 took off running, 962 00:47:36,937 --> 00:47:38,105 and the two of them came. 963 00:47:38,439 --> 00:47:41,609 I didn't realize-- That's closer than I expected. 964 00:47:41,859 --> 00:47:43,736 I mean, it's like eight feet away? 965 00:47:44,403 --> 00:47:46,030 They were eight feet away from this creature, 966 00:47:46,113 --> 00:47:48,491 broad daylight, it was 3:30 in the afternoon, 967 00:47:48,574 --> 00:47:50,451 this is the exact location. 968 00:47:50,826 --> 00:47:53,704 When she made eye contact with this creature. 969 00:47:53,788 --> 00:47:56,540 Was there a moment of any kind of communication? 970 00:47:56,666 --> 00:47:58,459 Did she feel anything at all? 971 00:47:58,542 --> 00:48:00,127 I sensed it was overheating. 972 00:48:00,211 --> 00:48:01,837 Sweating a lot. 973 00:48:01,921 --> 00:48:02,963 It was very hot. 974 00:48:03,756 --> 00:48:06,676 And it gave the impression that it was... 975 00:48:07,468 --> 00:48:10,346 ...uh, suffering from the heat, hot sun. 976 00:48:10,429 --> 00:48:11,430 Its skin... 977 00:48:11,889 --> 00:48:13,683 When I said, "Guys, look at that!" 978 00:48:13,808 --> 00:48:16,060 Then it turned around. I saw the eyes 979 00:48:16,143 --> 00:48:17,478 and took off running. 980 00:48:17,561 --> 00:48:19,188 So, when it turned around, 981 00:48:19,271 --> 00:48:20,523 we only saw the eyes, 982 00:48:20,606 --> 00:48:23,234 and what looked like a slit. 983 00:48:23,317 --> 00:48:26,237 But we couldn't see a normal mouth, like ours. 984 00:48:26,821 --> 00:48:29,198 Okay, so this is, uh, Valquíria, 985 00:48:29,824 --> 00:48:31,242 - this is Kátia. - Yes. 986 00:48:31,325 --> 00:48:32,743 And this is Liliane. 987 00:48:33,244 --> 00:48:35,121 You can see the-- the eyes. 988 00:48:35,204 --> 00:48:37,123 They didn't draw a nose, they didn't draw a mouth, 989 00:48:37,206 --> 00:48:38,582 it was all about the eyes. 990 00:48:38,791 --> 00:48:41,711 The first thing that caught my attention, 991 00:48:41,794 --> 00:48:43,587 right away, were its eyes. 992 00:48:44,130 --> 00:48:47,091 Because they were very big, not human-sized, 993 00:48:47,717 --> 00:48:49,218 or human-shaped. 994 00:48:49,844 --> 00:48:52,346 I wanna understand, uh, first of all, 995 00:48:52,430 --> 00:48:54,598 the moment of contact with the eye-- 996 00:48:54,682 --> 00:48:56,350 with the eyes, meeting the eyes, 997 00:48:56,434 --> 00:48:58,769 I-- I really wanna be there, I wanna feel it. 998 00:48:59,019 --> 00:49:01,522 When they locked eyes with this being, 999 00:49:01,814 --> 00:49:02,857 what were they thinking? 1000 00:49:02,940 --> 00:49:04,775 What we saw wasn't human. 1001 00:49:04,859 --> 00:49:07,611 It wasn't an animal, either. 1002 00:49:08,195 --> 00:49:11,657 Nowadays, I do think 1003 00:49:11,949 --> 00:49:14,702 it was a being from another planet. 1004 00:49:17,413 --> 00:49:20,416 It wasn't a man, it wasn't an animal. 1005 00:49:20,499 --> 00:49:23,002 Now, what it was, I can't say. 1006 00:49:24,128 --> 00:49:26,630 I can't describe it. 1007 00:49:26,714 --> 00:49:28,632 They all ran out of here, quickly. 1008 00:49:29,133 --> 00:49:30,342 So, they were scared-- 1009 00:49:30,426 --> 00:49:32,428 were they scared because they felt threatened, 1010 00:49:32,511 --> 00:49:34,722 or were they scared because they just simply didn't know 1011 00:49:34,805 --> 00:49:35,806 what they were looking at? 1012 00:49:36,474 --> 00:49:38,976 I remember when we made our way down, 1013 00:49:39,059 --> 00:49:41,729 completely terrified, scared, running, 1014 00:49:41,812 --> 00:49:44,398 we stopped down there, right? 1015 00:49:44,648 --> 00:49:46,275 The three of us stopped and were like, 1016 00:49:46,358 --> 00:49:48,152 Guys, what happened? What did you see? 1017 00:49:48,235 --> 00:49:51,238 Wow, so the three of us saw the same thing. 1018 00:49:51,655 --> 00:49:53,073 Then we ran 1019 00:49:53,157 --> 00:49:55,159 until we arrived at my mother's house. 1020 00:49:56,076 --> 00:49:59,121 The girls, I came out to meet the girls 1021 00:49:59,580 --> 00:50:02,249 because mothers have a sixth sense. 1022 00:50:03,167 --> 00:50:07,296 Then I saw Kátia almost carrying this one, 1023 00:50:08,339 --> 00:50:10,090 or vice versa, I don't know. 1024 00:50:10,341 --> 00:50:12,593 I saw they were very nervous, 1025 00:50:12,676 --> 00:50:14,845 walking slowly, and dragging each other along. 1026 00:50:15,346 --> 00:50:20,184 At the time, we were children of Catholics, 1027 00:50:20,434 --> 00:50:23,187 so it could be a demon. 1028 00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:26,232 That's why we were scared at the time. 1029 00:50:26,565 --> 00:50:29,443 So the three girls run to her house, 1030 00:50:29,985 --> 00:50:31,987 and they say, "We saw this creature, 1031 00:50:32,613 --> 00:50:34,865 it might have been the devil," or whatever it was. 1032 00:50:35,324 --> 00:50:38,911 And they-- Do they-- Do they get in the car and drive here? 1033 00:50:38,994 --> 00:50:40,788 Do they walk here? How did they get here? 1034 00:50:40,871 --> 00:50:42,206 And what did they see when they got here? 1035 00:50:42,289 --> 00:50:44,124 Then she said, "Let's take the truck there." 1036 00:50:44,291 --> 00:50:45,501 And I said, I'm not going. 1037 00:50:45,584 --> 00:50:46,836 I'm scared. I'm not going back. 1038 00:50:46,919 --> 00:50:49,255 Luiza went, "Please, go there with me." 1039 00:50:49,338 --> 00:50:52,007 Then I got in the truck and came back, we parked the truck here. 1040 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,301 And then there, on that spot, 1041 00:50:54,385 --> 00:50:57,012 I saw the creature's footprint. 1042 00:50:57,429 --> 00:50:58,889 I'll never forget it, 1043 00:50:58,973 --> 00:51:00,057 by this sun. 1044 00:51:01,433 --> 00:51:03,602 Only three fingertips. 1045 00:51:04,019 --> 00:51:06,897 A footprint like this. It was loose 1046 00:51:06,981 --> 00:51:08,566 red dirt, 1047 00:51:08,691 --> 00:51:10,568 so it was like this. 1048 00:51:10,734 --> 00:51:13,821 Can she draw the footprint, the shape of the footprint? 1049 00:51:15,865 --> 00:51:16,866 Here. 1050 00:51:17,783 --> 00:51:21,829 James wants you to draw it exactly as it was. 1051 00:51:21,912 --> 00:51:23,330 - Yeah. - I only saw the trail left 1052 00:51:23,414 --> 00:51:24,415 by its foot. 1053 00:51:24,498 --> 00:51:25,916 I didn't see anything else. 1054 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,918 It was like this. 1055 00:51:29,128 --> 00:51:31,046 I'm shaking. 1056 00:51:31,630 --> 00:51:33,549 - She's shaking. - Look, one finger, 1057 00:51:34,258 --> 00:51:36,176 another long finger, 1058 00:51:36,260 --> 00:51:39,221 and another finger like this. 1059 00:51:39,305 --> 00:51:42,558 This was what I saw on the soil there. 1060 00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:44,768 I couldn't stand the smell, 1061 00:51:44,852 --> 00:51:46,312 right here in the nose. 1062 00:51:46,854 --> 00:51:48,522 For about twenty days. 1063 00:51:49,231 --> 00:51:51,984 I don't know where that smell came from. 1064 00:51:52,067 --> 00:51:55,195 I even washed my nose with alcohol and water 1065 00:51:55,279 --> 00:51:57,114 to get that smell out. 1066 00:51:57,281 --> 00:51:59,825 -That strong smell of... -Ammonia. 1067 00:51:59,909 --> 00:52:03,120 No! It wasn't ammonia. It wasn't... 1068 00:52:03,203 --> 00:52:06,206 It smelled worse than sulfur. 1069 00:52:06,290 --> 00:52:08,751 - I don't know, to me, it was ammonia. - A strong smell. 1070 00:52:09,043 --> 00:52:11,295 What a strange smell. Let's go. 1071 00:52:11,378 --> 00:52:13,756 Then I grabbed her like this and said, "Let's go!" 1072 00:52:15,925 --> 00:52:17,927 Hours before the girls' encounter, 1073 00:52:18,344 --> 00:52:20,804 the fire brigade captured a being. 1074 00:52:22,097 --> 00:52:24,266 This capture was thoroughly investigated 1075 00:52:24,350 --> 00:52:27,519 by leading Brazilian researcher and lawyer 1076 00:52:27,811 --> 00:52:29,980 Ubirajara Rodrigues. 1077 00:52:30,439 --> 00:52:32,483 The lawyer and professor Ubirajara Rodrigues, 1078 00:52:32,566 --> 00:52:34,276 who is also a ufologist, 1079 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,111 said on TV that they found evidence 1080 00:52:36,195 --> 00:52:38,489 that the story is authentic. 1081 00:52:39,448 --> 00:52:42,409 The fire department was dispatched to this location 1082 00:52:42,493 --> 00:52:46,205 after receiving several calls from concerned residents 1083 00:52:46,288 --> 00:52:49,416 who reported seeing something strange in the area. 1084 00:52:49,583 --> 00:52:51,251 It went into the woods. 1085 00:52:51,335 --> 00:52:52,920 Then the firemen arrived, 1086 00:52:53,003 --> 00:52:55,839 dispersing... the people. 1087 00:52:56,298 --> 00:52:58,258 They descended, the firemen, 1088 00:52:58,342 --> 00:53:00,135 and some others stayed here. 1089 00:53:00,219 --> 00:53:01,679 They captured it with a net. 1090 00:53:01,762 --> 00:53:03,389 Because you know in Brazil, 1091 00:53:03,764 --> 00:53:05,265 when you have this kind of problem, 1092 00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:06,517 like being stung by wasps, 1093 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,143 - or a venomous animal, or a mad dog, - Yes. 1094 00:53:08,227 --> 00:53:09,478 - the firemen are called. - The firemen are called. 1095 00:53:09,561 --> 00:53:10,813 The firemen 1096 00:53:10,896 --> 00:53:14,441 didn't know what to do when they got here. 1097 00:53:15,150 --> 00:53:17,653 We went out looking for other witnesses, 1098 00:53:18,070 --> 00:53:19,530 and we were satisfied. 1099 00:53:19,613 --> 00:53:21,907 When we were there on the slab, the firemen came, 1100 00:53:22,366 --> 00:53:24,243 and soon after, they told us 1101 00:53:24,326 --> 00:53:26,954 they caught an animal in the forest. 1102 00:53:27,037 --> 00:53:29,748 Did they think it was something strange? 1103 00:53:29,873 --> 00:53:31,083 What comments did they have? 1104 00:53:31,166 --> 00:53:33,585 No, they said the animal they caught 1105 00:53:33,669 --> 00:53:34,920 cried like a child. 1106 00:53:36,171 --> 00:53:38,924 There were two captures. 1107 00:53:39,008 --> 00:53:41,802 The first was by firemen, in the morning. 1108 00:53:42,177 --> 00:53:44,722 Another by the military police 1109 00:53:44,805 --> 00:53:46,223 in the afternoon. 1110 00:53:52,730 --> 00:53:54,982 My name is Pedro Luiz Aguiar. 1111 00:53:55,899 --> 00:53:57,818 I was the Chief of Police 1112 00:53:58,569 --> 00:54:01,196 in Tres Coraçoes 1113 00:54:01,780 --> 00:54:04,616 in 1996. 1114 00:54:05,075 --> 00:54:07,244 I went to the site where 1115 00:54:07,745 --> 00:54:09,121 the creatures, 1116 00:54:09,455 --> 00:54:11,999 or creature was captured. 1117 00:54:14,001 --> 00:54:15,085 How many were alive? 1118 00:54:15,169 --> 00:54:16,170 How many dead? 1119 00:54:17,129 --> 00:54:19,798 Look, they were talking two, 1120 00:54:21,008 --> 00:54:22,843 two, one dead and one alive. 1121 00:54:23,469 --> 00:54:26,096 What I heard was that there were two, 1122 00:54:26,221 --> 00:54:27,639 one dead and one alive, 1123 00:54:27,723 --> 00:54:30,059 and a third that went missing. 1124 00:54:30,434 --> 00:54:34,438 What does it feel like knowing what you know? 1125 00:54:35,355 --> 00:54:36,523 It's history! 1126 00:54:36,607 --> 00:54:38,025 Not a story! 1127 00:54:38,108 --> 00:54:39,860 Because I saw it. 1128 00:54:40,235 --> 00:54:43,447 Why are you talking about it now? 1129 00:54:44,031 --> 00:54:46,200 Because I trust your work... 1130 00:54:47,159 --> 00:54:50,329 You're investigating something that I participated in. 1131 00:54:52,915 --> 00:54:55,751 That's the exact location where the girls saw the creature, 1132 00:54:55,834 --> 00:54:58,337 right through that wall where we filmed already with the girls. 1133 00:54:58,796 --> 00:55:00,255 I didn't realize that Marco Chereze, 1134 00:55:00,339 --> 00:55:02,091 the military officer who allegedly 1135 00:55:02,174 --> 00:55:04,718 captured the creature with his bare hands, 1136 00:55:05,302 --> 00:55:06,386 did it right over here. 1137 00:55:08,722 --> 00:55:10,808 Roughly three hours after the girls 1138 00:55:10,891 --> 00:55:12,810 witnessed the strange creature, 1139 00:55:13,060 --> 00:55:14,853 military police officers, 1140 00:55:14,937 --> 00:55:17,606 Eric Lopes and Marco Chereze 1141 00:55:17,773 --> 00:55:21,777 drive down this road on the lookout for something unusual 1142 00:55:22,528 --> 00:55:25,864 when suddenly it runs right across their path. 1143 00:55:27,616 --> 00:55:29,660 The officers got out of the car. 1144 00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:33,789 Primarily, Marco Chereze took action. 1145 00:55:34,039 --> 00:55:36,667 He grabbed the creature, restrained it. 1146 00:55:40,838 --> 00:55:44,133 It was captured by Marco Eli Chereze 1147 00:55:44,216 --> 00:55:45,717 with his-- with his bare hands, 1148 00:55:46,051 --> 00:55:48,053 easily, and taken to the hospital. 1149 00:55:52,808 --> 00:55:55,561 Apart from second-hand rumors of what took place 1150 00:55:55,644 --> 00:55:58,897 inside the hospital made by anonymous sources, 1151 00:55:59,398 --> 00:56:02,901 little is known about what happened to the alleged alien. 1152 00:56:03,527 --> 00:56:06,363 The driver, Eric Lopes, has been in hiding 1153 00:56:06,613 --> 00:56:10,450 and the officer who handled the live being, Marco Chereze, 1154 00:56:10,659 --> 00:56:12,536 died a couple of weeks later. 1155 00:56:13,787 --> 00:56:15,414 After he captured the creature, 1156 00:56:15,998 --> 00:56:20,669 he was smelling the creature in his body and in his clothes 1157 00:56:21,628 --> 00:56:25,549 because he had this strange feeling of something greasy, 1158 00:56:25,632 --> 00:56:29,469 sticky over his body that came from the creature. 1159 00:56:32,139 --> 00:56:34,183 He-- He developed this-- this infection... 1160 00:56:35,225 --> 00:56:36,852 ...that wouldn't go away. 1161 00:56:37,853 --> 00:56:40,147 And for two or three weeks 1162 00:56:40,355 --> 00:56:44,193 it was getting worse and worse and worse. 1163 00:56:44,818 --> 00:56:48,530 And it looks like that his immunity system was shut down. 1164 00:56:49,531 --> 00:56:51,617 These, uh, were the words 1165 00:56:51,700 --> 00:56:54,161 used by one of the doctors who treated him, 1166 00:56:54,536 --> 00:57:00,125 who said that he never saw in his whole medical career 1167 00:57:00,209 --> 00:57:01,793 anything like that. 1168 00:57:06,256 --> 00:57:08,508 And that infection killed him. 1169 00:57:12,262 --> 00:57:13,513 Good afternoon, uh, 1170 00:57:13,597 --> 00:57:15,933 my name is Cesário Furtado, MD, 1171 00:57:16,433 --> 00:57:18,268 an intensive care cardiologist. 1172 00:57:18,810 --> 00:57:21,605 I've been working in the city for 45 years. 1173 00:57:22,439 --> 00:57:26,443 Uh, in 1996, 1174 00:57:26,652 --> 00:57:28,403 I was here 1175 00:57:28,695 --> 00:57:30,572 when the event, 1176 00:57:30,989 --> 00:57:32,407 the appearance 1177 00:57:32,491 --> 00:57:35,035 of extraterrestrial beings, occurred in the city. 1178 00:57:35,577 --> 00:57:39,748 I had to attend to 1179 00:57:40,415 --> 00:57:43,335 Marco Chereze, who was the military officer, 1180 00:57:43,669 --> 00:57:45,128 people say, 1181 00:57:45,212 --> 00:57:47,422 who was involved in the case at the time. 1182 00:57:48,006 --> 00:57:49,341 And we 1183 00:57:50,259 --> 00:57:53,178 took him to the intensive care, and did all the treatments. 1184 00:57:53,512 --> 00:57:55,389 And he passed away, 1185 00:57:55,931 --> 00:57:58,684 from an undetermined cause. 1186 00:57:59,059 --> 00:58:01,728 A case unknown at the time, 1187 00:58:01,812 --> 00:58:02,854 by us doctors. 1188 00:58:09,361 --> 00:58:12,322 All the witnesses that claim 1189 00:58:13,073 --> 00:58:14,908 that Marco Chereze handled 1190 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,035 a creature, a strange creature, 1191 00:58:17,119 --> 00:58:18,829 it doesn't have to be from another world, 1192 00:58:18,912 --> 00:58:22,374 it was a strange creature, he gets some unknown infection, 1193 00:58:22,457 --> 00:58:25,377 you did everything you could to save him and he died. 1194 00:58:25,877 --> 00:58:29,131 Do you believe that there's some credibility to that story? 1195 00:58:29,881 --> 00:58:32,092 Yes, it's a credible story. 1196 00:58:32,175 --> 00:58:34,886 He exposed this... 1197 00:58:36,179 --> 00:58:38,181 ...uh, to reveal what happened 1198 00:58:38,807 --> 00:58:43,520 to try to help himself to save his life. 1199 00:58:43,603 --> 00:58:46,064 Because he felt he was dying. 1200 00:58:46,356 --> 00:58:48,650 And, according to his sister, 1201 00:58:49,234 --> 00:58:50,819 he was restricted 1202 00:58:51,361 --> 00:58:53,196 from talking about it. 1203 00:58:53,697 --> 00:58:55,032 Marco Eli Chereze, 1204 00:58:55,115 --> 00:58:57,617 who was 23 years old, worked for police intelligence. 1205 00:58:57,701 --> 00:59:00,162 The family only knows he was participating 1206 00:59:00,245 --> 00:59:01,747 in a secret operation. 1207 00:59:02,247 --> 00:59:05,542 Can you confirm your brother was working on the 20th? 1208 00:59:05,625 --> 00:59:06,752 I confirm. 1209 00:59:07,794 --> 00:59:09,546 My name is Marta. Marta Tavares. 1210 00:59:09,629 --> 00:59:12,841 I am the sister of the military officer who was involved in the E.T. case, 1211 00:59:13,133 --> 00:59:15,802 in January 1996. 1212 00:59:18,722 --> 00:59:20,557 When her brother falls ill, 1213 00:59:20,891 --> 00:59:23,810 she asks about his involvement with the case. 1214 00:59:24,144 --> 00:59:25,771 "Is this story of the creature, 1215 00:59:25,854 --> 00:59:27,314 this extraterrestrial, 1216 00:59:27,397 --> 00:59:28,732 is it true?" 1217 00:59:29,149 --> 00:59:30,525 His answer was, 1218 00:59:30,776 --> 00:59:34,404 "Look, this story will be a big deal." 1219 00:59:36,406 --> 00:59:39,618 In 2002, renowned UFO researcher 1220 00:59:39,701 --> 00:59:41,161 Dr. Roger Lear 1221 00:59:41,244 --> 00:59:44,373 traveled to Varginha to investigate the case. 1222 00:59:44,956 --> 00:59:46,833 He conducted the only interview 1223 00:59:46,917 --> 00:59:49,669 with the deceased military officer's wife. 1224 00:59:49,753 --> 00:59:53,131 Uh, does she know if anyone has seen a medical report? 1225 00:59:53,715 --> 00:59:55,842 Do you know anyone who's seen 1226 00:59:55,926 --> 00:59:57,052 the medical report? 1227 00:59:57,344 --> 00:59:59,638 No, after they delivered it... 1228 00:59:59,721 --> 01:00:02,140 first, they wanted money for it, 1229 01:00:02,224 --> 01:00:05,143 they took a long time, and pages were missing. 1230 01:00:05,685 --> 01:00:07,604 Nobody knew how to explain anything. 1231 01:00:08,063 --> 01:00:11,566 I was always looking for an explanation, but no explanation came, none. 1232 01:00:12,484 --> 01:00:14,736 She wants-- She searched for explanations... 1233 01:00:14,820 --> 01:00:16,863 After a protracted legal battle, 1234 01:00:16,947 --> 01:00:19,991 the family finally received the death certificate. 1235 01:00:20,117 --> 01:00:22,994 It was produced by IPD Laboratory, 1236 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:27,582 the Institute of Prevention and Diagnostics in Varginha. 1237 01:00:27,958 --> 01:00:29,376 This exam here, 1238 01:00:29,626 --> 01:00:34,297 uh, indicates the presence of granular toxin, 1239 01:00:34,381 --> 01:00:37,175 it shows 8% of fine-grained neutrophils. 1240 01:00:37,384 --> 01:00:41,471 There was an unidentifiable substance. 1241 01:00:41,721 --> 01:00:45,642 And so, he died from a general infection, 1242 01:00:45,725 --> 01:00:48,061 but it was not a justifiable cause. 1243 01:00:49,271 --> 01:00:52,315 For the first time ever, Dr. Joao Janini, 1244 01:00:52,399 --> 01:00:57,696 the founder of IPD Labs, agreed to go on camera for our team. 1245 01:00:58,113 --> 01:01:02,576 I've done over 50,000 autopsies in my lifetime, 1246 01:01:02,659 --> 01:01:04,911 and over a million microscopic studies. 1247 01:01:05,036 --> 01:01:06,955 I've never seen a case like this. 1248 01:01:07,247 --> 01:01:11,168 The legacy of the E.T. of Varginha is the bacteria, 1249 01:01:11,251 --> 01:01:12,961 and we talk about the E.T. all the time 1250 01:01:13,044 --> 01:01:14,838 but never about the bacteria. 1251 01:01:14,921 --> 01:01:17,799 And this is what captures our attention. 1252 01:01:18,216 --> 01:01:20,427 Former Municipal Health Secretary 1253 01:01:20,510 --> 01:01:22,596 and current forensic pathologist, 1254 01:01:22,888 --> 01:01:25,015 Dr. Armando Fortunato, 1255 01:01:25,307 --> 01:01:27,684 performed the microscopic autopsy 1256 01:01:27,767 --> 01:01:29,728 on Officer Marco Chereze. 1257 01:01:33,190 --> 01:01:35,358 What caught the attention of the world 1258 01:01:35,442 --> 01:01:38,612 is the body of the E.T. in Varginha. 1259 01:01:38,695 --> 01:01:40,113 The E.T. or the extraterrestrial. 1260 01:01:40,238 --> 01:01:43,533 But I think the bacteria that was found 1261 01:01:43,617 --> 01:01:45,577 is a trace of him left behind. 1262 01:01:45,660 --> 01:01:47,329 There is life, 1263 01:01:47,412 --> 01:01:49,247 when he talks about biological 1264 01:01:49,331 --> 01:01:50,624 and biochemical evolution, 1265 01:01:50,707 --> 01:01:52,083 is a trace 1266 01:01:52,167 --> 01:01:54,920 -of biomolecular evolution. -A tremendous resistance. 1267 01:01:55,003 --> 01:01:58,006 The bacterial resistance in an extremely atypical case. 1268 01:01:58,215 --> 01:01:59,216 If he could... 1269 01:01:59,799 --> 01:02:03,720 ...give me just 15, 20 seconds on what he thinks happened. 1270 01:02:06,014 --> 01:02:10,602 From the information I gathered, 1271 01:02:10,685 --> 01:02:15,565 it was a scratch on Chereze's skin 1272 01:02:15,649 --> 01:02:17,067 made by the E.T. 1273 01:02:17,484 --> 01:02:21,196 I think he was a victim of 1274 01:02:21,279 --> 01:02:23,031 the nail of the E.T. 1275 01:02:25,575 --> 01:02:28,203 Why was it resistant? 1276 01:02:28,912 --> 01:02:32,832 What kind of biochemical advantage it had 1277 01:02:33,333 --> 01:02:38,046 to resist the antibiotics? 1278 01:02:38,380 --> 01:02:40,048 Nothing could phase it, 1279 01:02:40,966 --> 01:02:42,467 it destroyed everything. 1280 01:02:42,801 --> 01:02:44,135 In one week. 1281 01:02:44,594 --> 01:02:46,596 Very, very atypical. 1282 01:02:47,889 --> 01:02:51,309 Was Marco Eli Chereze the only person infected... 1283 01:02:52,561 --> 01:02:54,479 ...who died? We don't know. 1284 01:02:55,272 --> 01:02:58,650 Were, uh, these two creatures the only ones 1285 01:02:58,733 --> 01:03:01,194 that remained alive after the crash? 1286 01:03:01,278 --> 01:03:02,946 We don't know. We only have, 1287 01:03:03,488 --> 01:03:07,492 um, very detailed information 1288 01:03:07,576 --> 01:03:11,288 about the existence and the capture of these two. 1289 01:03:11,371 --> 01:03:16,084 One capture in the morning and one at evening of the same day, 1290 01:03:16,209 --> 01:03:17,919 January 20, 1986. 1291 01:03:19,754 --> 01:03:21,131 The only remaining witness 1292 01:03:21,214 --> 01:03:22,966 to the second capture that night 1293 01:03:23,341 --> 01:03:26,678 was the driver of the car, who's been MIA. 1294 01:03:29,222 --> 01:03:31,182 The commanding officer driving the car 1295 01:03:31,266 --> 01:03:32,517 was Corporal Lopes. 1296 01:03:34,436 --> 01:03:37,314 He's living proof of the fact 1297 01:03:37,397 --> 01:03:38,982 of what happened. 1298 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,694 He participated in the capture. 1299 01:03:43,570 --> 01:03:45,780 My brother was his subordinate. 1300 01:03:49,534 --> 01:03:51,411 Has anybody seen Eric Lopes? 1301 01:03:51,494 --> 01:03:53,580 Has anyone ever tried to talk to him? 1302 01:03:53,663 --> 01:03:55,790 Uh, people tried to, uh, reach him out. 1303 01:03:55,874 --> 01:03:57,125 -People have tried? -Yeah. 1304 01:03:57,208 --> 01:03:58,835 And nada. 1305 01:03:58,918 --> 01:04:01,630 With the help of Varginha Mayor, Vérdi, 1306 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,257 the team connects with Mr. da Costa, 1307 01:04:04,507 --> 01:04:07,677 a military police corporal in 1996. 1308 01:04:08,219 --> 01:04:11,890 His son, Romulo Ribeiro, agrees to escort them 1309 01:04:11,973 --> 01:04:14,017 to the home of Eric Lopes. 1310 01:04:14,893 --> 01:04:17,354 - Right. - ll get you there, and you talk to him. 1311 01:04:17,437 --> 01:04:19,064 - Okay. - ll introduce myself, 1312 01:04:19,147 --> 01:04:20,273 then hand it over to you 1313 01:04:20,357 --> 01:04:21,358 because you're the professionals. 1314 01:04:21,441 --> 01:04:22,484 -Okay. -Thanks. 1315 01:04:23,985 --> 01:04:24,986 Okay. 1316 01:04:26,655 --> 01:04:28,657 Oh, my God. Are you kidding me? 1317 01:04:29,741 --> 01:04:30,992 Should we go up there for-- 1318 01:04:31,618 --> 01:04:32,619 Yeah. 1319 01:04:32,702 --> 01:04:36,539 Eric Lopes is the military police officer from P2, 1320 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,543 who reportedly drove the car during the second capture 1321 01:04:40,627 --> 01:04:42,087 with Marco Chereze. 1322 01:04:44,464 --> 01:04:47,217 Not even the family of the deceased officer 1323 01:04:47,300 --> 01:04:50,053 has been able to get a statement from Lopes. 1324 01:04:51,054 --> 01:04:52,055 Yes! 1325 01:04:52,639 --> 01:04:54,599 Well, he's hiding, you know? 1326 01:04:54,683 --> 01:04:56,184 - Hiding, huh? - Hiding. 1327 01:04:56,309 --> 01:04:57,852 If the reports are true, 1328 01:04:58,311 --> 01:05:01,564 he is the only living witness of the second capture. 1329 01:05:03,024 --> 01:05:06,986 Officer Lopes has been unreachable for 26 years. 1330 01:05:07,237 --> 01:05:10,740 Should we wait? Eh, if he talks 1331 01:05:10,824 --> 01:05:12,200 - first-- - Oh, my God. 1332 01:05:12,575 --> 01:05:14,285 I'll go with him. I'm going with him. 1333 01:05:25,213 --> 01:05:26,214 Eric! 1334 01:05:28,591 --> 01:05:29,592 Eric! 1335 01:05:30,260 --> 01:05:32,220 Eric... How are you? 1336 01:05:32,512 --> 01:05:33,930 We want to talk... 1337 01:05:34,180 --> 01:05:36,641 If it's about the E.T. 1338 01:05:37,392 --> 01:05:39,269 he won't talk. 1339 01:05:39,352 --> 01:05:41,104 He's gonna remove you with bullets. 1340 01:05:41,604 --> 01:05:42,897 We can't? 1341 01:05:43,106 --> 01:05:44,941 You guys are gonna get in trouble. 1342 01:05:45,024 --> 01:05:47,235 Tell him that-- that the mayor has blessed us. 1343 01:05:47,777 --> 01:05:48,778 Tell him the mayor said-- 1344 01:05:48,862 --> 01:05:50,989 Are you okay? All good? 1345 01:05:51,114 --> 01:05:52,782 You are gonna get in trouble. 1346 01:05:52,949 --> 01:05:55,744 He's-- He's-- I don't know, he seems-- he's kinda-- 1347 01:05:55,952 --> 01:05:57,579 - Okay. - This is Eric Lopes? 1348 01:05:58,204 --> 01:05:59,789 Uh, can we just-- Hold on, please. 1349 01:05:59,873 --> 01:06:01,583 Let me ask you a question. Please. 1350 01:06:01,708 --> 01:06:03,418 - A question. Please. - He... 1351 01:06:03,501 --> 01:06:05,170 It's not Eric, it's Eric's friend. 1352 01:06:05,253 --> 01:06:07,589 Uh-huh. Uh, he's-- he's friend-- Lopes' friend. 1353 01:06:07,672 --> 01:06:09,174 Oh, okay. 1354 01:06:09,340 --> 01:06:11,968 I will kick you out with bullets. 1355 01:06:12,469 --> 01:06:13,678 - Wha-- - He doesn't accept. 1356 01:06:13,762 --> 01:06:14,888 He doesn't accept. 1357 01:06:14,971 --> 01:06:16,514 H-- Hold on, hold on. 1358 01:06:16,848 --> 01:06:18,475 Just ask him one question for me. 1359 01:06:18,850 --> 01:06:20,894 He just wants to ask you a single question, sir. 1360 01:06:20,977 --> 01:06:22,645 -You guys are gonna get in trouble. -He doesn't accept. 1361 01:06:22,729 --> 01:06:24,689 - No, he... There's no way. - Wh-- Will he-- 1362 01:06:24,773 --> 01:06:27,192 Will he ever come forward to make a statement? 1363 01:06:27,692 --> 01:06:30,862 Uh, he's asking you, sir, 1364 01:06:30,945 --> 01:06:35,074 if you think that Lopes could 1365 01:06:35,158 --> 01:06:36,910 -Uh... -I am Lopes. 1366 01:06:38,286 --> 01:06:39,746 What's happening? 1367 01:06:40,914 --> 01:06:43,833 This is the house of Eric Lopes. 1368 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,543 - Yeah. - But... 1369 01:06:45,835 --> 01:06:47,462 he doesn't like to talk. 1370 01:06:48,505 --> 01:06:50,381 They're currently talking right now. Let's go. 1371 01:06:55,053 --> 01:06:56,387 Are you Eric? 1372 01:06:56,721 --> 01:06:57,722 I didn't know you were Eric. 1373 01:06:58,932 --> 01:07:00,308 If you could just 1374 01:07:00,391 --> 01:07:01,684 -tell us... -No, he doesn't want. 1375 01:07:01,768 --> 01:07:03,353 - You don't want to talk? It's okay. - He doesn't want. 1376 01:07:03,603 --> 01:07:05,897 -All good. God be with you. -Thank you! 1377 01:07:06,022 --> 01:07:07,982 - Thank you. God be with you. - So... 1378 01:07:08,066 --> 01:07:09,984 So Eric-- d-- Eric won't talk? 1379 01:07:10,068 --> 01:07:11,569 - No, he just-- - What-- What just happened? I'm trying-- 1380 01:07:11,653 --> 01:07:13,613 What happened? Is that Eric Lopes? 1381 01:07:13,696 --> 01:07:14,906 Yeah, he doesn't want to talk. 1382 01:07:14,989 --> 01:07:16,282 - Who is that? - Yeah, Eric Lopes. 1383 01:07:16,366 --> 01:07:17,450 That's Eric Lopes. 1384 01:07:17,534 --> 01:07:18,827 It's over. 1385 01:07:18,910 --> 01:07:20,036 He doesn't wanna talk at all. 1386 01:07:20,119 --> 01:07:22,163 - I'll tell you later. - It's over? 1387 01:07:22,247 --> 01:07:23,665 - Yeah, let's go. - Okay, okay. 1388 01:07:24,374 --> 01:07:25,834 - Oh my God, that was Eric Lopes. - Thanks! 1389 01:07:25,917 --> 01:07:26,960 Thanks! 1390 01:07:27,043 --> 01:07:28,378 Just saw him. 1391 01:07:29,087 --> 01:07:31,089 - Ay, ay, ay. - What happened? 1392 01:07:32,507 --> 01:07:33,591 Okay, okay. 1393 01:07:34,175 --> 01:07:35,176 We'll go talk. 1394 01:07:35,593 --> 01:07:37,428 Did you get him? Dave, did you get him? 1395 01:07:37,512 --> 01:07:39,138 Please tell me you got him. Fuck, dude... 1396 01:07:39,472 --> 01:07:40,682 That was Eric Lopes. 1397 01:07:41,015 --> 01:07:42,016 ...fucking God. 1398 01:07:42,100 --> 01:07:43,142 Did you get him in the window? 1399 01:07:43,226 --> 01:07:45,019 - Yeah. - Holy shit. 1400 01:07:45,728 --> 01:07:48,231 -Oh, my God! You got him! -He was in the window the whole time. 1401 01:07:48,606 --> 01:07:51,776 This here confirms I'm right, Eric Lopes. 1402 01:07:52,402 --> 01:07:53,987 And he said... 1403 01:07:54,821 --> 01:07:58,324 ...uh, we shot-- if you don't leave here. 1404 01:07:58,575 --> 01:08:00,076 - He will shoot you? - Yeah. 1405 01:08:00,869 --> 01:08:02,328 Fuck. 1406 01:08:03,121 --> 01:08:07,417 If that guy had nothing to hide, he would have just said so. 1407 01:08:09,168 --> 01:08:11,588 - That guy was driving the car - Yeah. 1408 01:08:11,671 --> 01:08:12,922 that Marco Chereze was in. 1409 01:08:14,048 --> 01:08:16,926 A few hours after the girl's encounter with the alien 1410 01:08:17,051 --> 01:08:19,470 and its capture by military police, 1411 01:08:19,762 --> 01:08:22,640 an entire family living only blocks away 1412 01:08:22,891 --> 01:08:26,936 witnessed a UFO maneuvering methodically over the area. 1413 01:08:27,812 --> 01:08:30,231 If true, their sighting could imply 1414 01:08:30,315 --> 01:08:33,818 an extraterrestrial search and rescue operation. 1415 01:08:34,736 --> 01:08:36,905 When we arrived with cameras rolling, 1416 01:08:36,988 --> 01:08:39,198 the family didn't want to go public. 1417 01:08:39,449 --> 01:08:40,617 Wait, let me ask. 1418 01:08:41,284 --> 01:08:42,493 -Let me ask. -Yeah. 1419 01:08:43,578 --> 01:08:46,706 How about we film the back of their heads talking to me? 1420 01:08:47,123 --> 01:08:49,834 - It won't show anything. - No, I don't want to... 1421 01:08:50,126 --> 01:08:52,462 No, he's not going reveal you. 1422 01:08:52,670 --> 01:08:54,964 No, I only want to comment on the story. 1423 01:08:55,340 --> 01:08:57,300 Hey, Fernanda, we have two options. 1424 01:08:57,508 --> 01:08:58,760 - Okay. - Okay? One... 1425 01:08:59,510 --> 01:09:02,347 ...we blur his faces, no problem, and we will do that. 1426 01:09:02,430 --> 01:09:04,390 Two, we film from the backside, 1427 01:09:04,474 --> 01:09:06,851 and their-- and their faces aren't seen ever. 1428 01:09:07,310 --> 01:09:08,978 Like the doctors. 1429 01:09:09,562 --> 01:09:13,107 And they all saw the UFO right over th-- this area. 1430 01:09:13,650 --> 01:09:16,319 It looked like they were looking for something, 1431 01:09:16,402 --> 01:09:17,987 like it was doing a grid search. 1432 01:09:18,488 --> 01:09:20,448 And this is a very respectable family. 1433 01:09:20,573 --> 01:09:23,034 They don't want their faces on camera. 1434 01:09:23,451 --> 01:09:25,036 They wanna talk and tell what they saw, 1435 01:09:25,119 --> 01:09:27,205 but they don't want their faces revealed on camera, 1436 01:09:27,288 --> 01:09:28,915 which... happens. 1437 01:09:30,124 --> 01:09:33,962 Okay, so we're standing in-- very near the area 1438 01:09:34,045 --> 01:09:35,588 where the girls saw the creature. 1439 01:09:35,755 --> 01:09:38,007 It was 1996, January. 1440 01:09:38,091 --> 01:09:39,467 This entire family 1441 01:09:39,550 --> 01:09:41,302 saw something they wanna share with us, 1442 01:09:41,386 --> 01:09:43,554 but they don't wanna have their faces revealed. 1443 01:09:43,638 --> 01:09:44,847 So, what did they see? 1444 01:09:45,223 --> 01:09:48,434 The motorcycle delivery guy arrived, 1445 01:09:48,726 --> 01:09:50,436 and delivered our meal. 1446 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,189 Then suddenly, there's a big thing over our house. 1447 01:09:53,272 --> 01:09:54,440 A red light. 1448 01:09:54,565 --> 01:09:57,360 Very red, and like a sphere, 1449 01:09:57,986 --> 01:09:59,404 rotating very fast. 1450 01:09:59,988 --> 01:10:04,200 Very fast. I wanted to really focus on it. 1451 01:10:04,701 --> 01:10:06,536 It was all like, 1452 01:10:06,619 --> 01:10:10,373 solid, like when I look at these walls, but totally abnormal. 1453 01:10:10,832 --> 01:10:12,250 A thing like... 1454 01:10:13,710 --> 01:10:15,837 I don't know if it was from another planet. 1455 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:17,588 It was a flying disc. 1456 01:10:17,672 --> 01:10:19,298 This just can't be... 1457 01:10:19,382 --> 01:10:22,343 And I can't say how many minutes. 1458 01:10:22,427 --> 01:10:23,886 They were scared. 1459 01:10:24,220 --> 01:10:25,805 The three of us looking... 1460 01:10:26,014 --> 01:10:29,017 - I was just staring at it... - It was hovering. 1461 01:10:29,100 --> 01:10:30,935 - Hovering and rotating... - Like this. 1462 01:10:31,019 --> 01:10:33,354 It was searching for something around here. 1463 01:10:33,438 --> 01:10:34,731 - It was searching. - Very red... 1464 01:10:34,814 --> 01:10:36,649 But it was red, very red. 1465 01:10:36,733 --> 01:10:37,984 - And silvery all around. - A sphere... 1466 01:10:38,067 --> 01:10:39,444 Like a sphere... 1467 01:10:39,527 --> 01:10:43,156 And looking, really looking for something. 1468 01:10:43,239 --> 01:10:46,075 - And we were just looking at it. - We stared at it for 15 minutes. 1469 01:10:46,159 --> 01:10:49,245 "What I'm seeing today, I haven't seen ever in my life." 1470 01:10:49,328 --> 01:10:51,831 I don't know why God gave me this opportunity. 1471 01:10:52,165 --> 01:10:53,332 It was real. 1472 01:10:53,666 --> 01:10:56,753 This happened. There was no way it was something else. 1473 01:10:56,836 --> 01:11:00,173 The Varginha case was real! 1474 01:11:01,799 --> 01:11:02,925 Evidently, the family 1475 01:11:03,009 --> 01:11:04,719 was not alone in their sighting. 1476 01:11:05,636 --> 01:11:08,347 They see a UFO. The UFO gets closer to them. 1477 01:11:08,681 --> 01:11:11,976 To the point where it's at the height of that streetlight. 1478 01:11:12,101 --> 01:11:13,311 Okay, so then what happens? 1479 01:11:13,394 --> 01:11:14,645 It was round... 1480 01:11:14,729 --> 01:11:16,272 - a round shape. - Like a... 1481 01:11:16,355 --> 01:11:17,398 It was round. 1482 01:11:17,482 --> 01:11:18,775 And it was turning... 1483 01:11:18,858 --> 01:11:21,194 It seemed to be looking for something 1484 01:11:21,277 --> 01:11:23,905 because it came closer. 1485 01:11:24,322 --> 01:11:26,949 And it stayed stationary for a while. 1486 01:11:27,033 --> 01:11:29,952 I saw that what it was looking for wasn't there 1487 01:11:30,036 --> 01:11:32,622 and then it turned back and left. You hear me? 1488 01:11:32,705 --> 01:11:35,083 I was paralyzed because, 1489 01:11:35,333 --> 01:11:37,126 at that moment, I was 1490 01:11:37,627 --> 01:11:39,545 in disbelief. I said... 1491 01:11:39,629 --> 01:11:42,381 It was me and my mother. We couldn't believe it. 1492 01:11:45,384 --> 01:11:46,636 A couple months later, 1493 01:11:46,719 --> 01:11:49,555 a similar object was captured on video 1494 01:11:49,639 --> 01:11:51,557 southeast of Varginha. 1495 01:11:54,644 --> 01:11:56,270 It's a disc, Mom. 1496 01:11:56,938 --> 01:11:59,732 - And about a week later, right? - Yes. 1497 01:11:59,816 --> 01:12:02,652 - Some people... Yes, yes. - Ubirajara, ufoligists. 1498 01:12:02,735 --> 01:12:04,529 - Some people from NASA. - People from 1499 01:12:04,612 --> 01:12:06,781 NASA, I don't know if they were... 1500 01:12:06,864 --> 01:12:08,616 It was an American too, 1501 01:12:08,699 --> 01:12:09,992 who came here, 1502 01:12:10,326 --> 01:12:12,662 and stayed a long time talking with us, 1503 01:12:12,745 --> 01:12:14,122 talking into the night. 1504 01:12:14,205 --> 01:12:15,623 And what got my attention, 1505 01:12:15,706 --> 01:12:19,210 when they left, they said, "This conversation never happened." 1506 01:12:19,794 --> 01:12:21,379 Did I hear... I heard Americano. 1507 01:12:21,504 --> 01:12:22,713 -He said American. -Yes. 1508 01:12:22,797 --> 01:12:24,173 What-- What was that about? 1509 01:12:25,383 --> 01:12:26,926 Some American officials? 1510 01:12:27,176 --> 01:12:28,886 -Came here. -Came here... 1511 01:12:28,970 --> 01:12:30,888 to talk about what they saw. 1512 01:12:30,972 --> 01:12:32,598 -Yes. Mm-hmm. -Americans. 1513 01:12:32,682 --> 01:12:35,143 Were they military? Were they police? 1514 01:12:35,726 --> 01:12:36,727 Who were they? 1515 01:12:36,853 --> 01:12:39,647 No. They were dressed like civilians. 1516 01:12:39,730 --> 01:12:41,274 Normal. 1517 01:12:41,357 --> 01:12:42,817 They came with Ubirajara. 1518 01:12:42,900 --> 01:12:45,862 Ubirajara, the UFO researcher at the time. 1519 01:12:46,404 --> 01:12:49,157 -Right. -He has all our statements. 1520 01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:52,368 The people were Americans, 1521 01:12:52,451 --> 01:12:53,911 but I don't know who. 1522 01:12:53,995 --> 01:12:57,456 Is there any way that there is a conventional explanation 1523 01:12:57,540 --> 01:12:59,667 to what they saw? 1524 01:13:00,293 --> 01:13:02,545 I'm saying what I saw with my own eyes. 1525 01:13:02,879 --> 01:13:04,630 I don't need to lie. 1526 01:13:04,714 --> 01:13:06,257 I never even wanted to give an interview. 1527 01:13:06,340 --> 01:13:09,802 I'm doing this interview without showing my face... 1528 01:13:10,178 --> 01:13:12,346 It's real. 100% real. 1529 01:13:12,430 --> 01:13:14,473 I stayed 10 to 15 minutes staring at this 1530 01:13:14,557 --> 01:13:16,309 to be sure of what I'm saying. 1531 01:13:23,691 --> 01:13:25,484 I just wanna go over... 1532 01:13:26,277 --> 01:13:29,488 ...that interview, and what I find-- 1533 01:13:29,739 --> 01:13:30,740 First of all, 1534 01:13:30,948 --> 01:13:32,366 they hesitated on whether or not 1535 01:13:32,450 --> 01:13:33,993 they even wanted to go on camera. 1536 01:13:34,076 --> 01:13:35,578 They canceled yesterday. 1537 01:13:35,786 --> 01:13:37,663 Today they were like... 1538 01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:39,081 "We don't want--" 1539 01:13:39,165 --> 01:13:41,209 Oh, sorry, there's a bus coming. 1540 01:13:41,292 --> 01:13:43,294 "We don't want our faces on camera." 1541 01:13:43,377 --> 01:13:44,420 It was like an entire family. 1542 01:13:44,503 --> 01:13:46,088 And they all saw this object. 1543 01:13:46,172 --> 01:13:47,673 And it was really big. 1544 01:13:48,257 --> 01:13:49,258 Shaped like a disc. 1545 01:13:49,759 --> 01:13:50,760 Zero noise. 1546 01:13:51,928 --> 01:13:53,554 You have witnesses like that. 1547 01:13:53,638 --> 01:13:54,889 They're friends of the doctor, 1548 01:13:54,972 --> 01:13:56,432 the guy that we rent the house from. 1549 01:13:56,849 --> 01:13:58,392 That you could just tell they've been 1550 01:13:58,476 --> 01:14:00,603 sitting on that story for 26 years. 1551 01:14:00,937 --> 01:14:03,773 How excited he was to finally share it. 1552 01:14:31,550 --> 01:14:33,219 So, it was a normal day, 1553 01:14:33,552 --> 01:14:35,930 when suddenly, on the school polo field, 1554 01:14:36,013 --> 01:14:37,598 a Navy helicopter landed. 1555 01:14:41,060 --> 01:14:43,521 And then a big movement started, 1556 01:14:43,604 --> 01:14:46,148 of vehicles entering the barracks. 1557 01:14:48,776 --> 01:14:50,152 I was standing in line at the bank, 1558 01:14:50,236 --> 01:14:51,696 to receive my payment, 1559 01:14:51,779 --> 01:14:54,323 when a Navy truck parked outside, 1560 01:14:54,407 --> 01:14:56,534 and military men hurriedly pushed 1561 01:14:56,617 --> 01:14:58,160 a metal box inside. 1562 01:15:03,374 --> 01:15:06,669 There was unusual activity at the base. 1563 01:15:06,877 --> 01:15:09,046 - Mm-hmm. - There were helicopters 1564 01:15:09,130 --> 01:15:11,215 from... the Navy, 1565 01:15:11,799 --> 01:15:13,592 which in itself was unusual. 1566 01:15:13,676 --> 01:15:15,219 - He sees a box. - Yeah. 1567 01:15:16,512 --> 01:15:17,763 Was the box unusual? 1568 01:15:19,724 --> 01:15:21,100 What caught my attention 1569 01:15:21,183 --> 01:15:24,895 was why the Navy would be taking this box from the infirmary. 1570 01:15:27,898 --> 01:15:32,153 The Navy people were ordering us to get out of there. 1571 01:15:34,989 --> 01:15:36,699 The commanding general said, 1572 01:15:36,782 --> 01:15:38,659 There are rumors 1573 01:15:38,743 --> 01:15:41,078 that they went to Varginha and picked up 1574 01:15:41,162 --> 01:15:42,538 some creature. 1575 01:15:47,626 --> 01:15:49,045 The creature is here, 1576 01:15:49,128 --> 01:15:51,672 and the press want to come inside. 1577 01:15:55,634 --> 01:15:57,219 It was really weird. 1578 01:15:58,137 --> 01:15:59,263 Really strange. 1579 01:16:01,390 --> 01:16:05,895 My squadron was directly involved with the mission, 1580 01:16:06,395 --> 01:16:08,564 because they transported it. 1581 01:16:11,233 --> 01:16:13,903 So I avoided talking about it with my company. 1582 01:16:18,407 --> 01:16:22,119 Soon after, the drivers who went to Varginha 1583 01:16:22,203 --> 01:16:26,082 were ordered to the commander's office. 1584 01:16:26,540 --> 01:16:28,125 And we never saw them again. 1585 01:16:28,209 --> 01:16:29,377 So, to this day, 1586 01:16:29,877 --> 01:16:32,671 has he spoken to any of them that went to Varginha? 1587 01:16:33,422 --> 01:16:35,049 - No? - No, no. 1588 01:16:35,257 --> 01:16:36,258 Nothing? 1589 01:16:36,342 --> 01:16:37,343 Yeah. 1590 01:16:37,510 --> 01:16:38,511 Wow. 1591 01:16:43,808 --> 01:16:45,184 According to the witness, 1592 01:16:45,267 --> 01:16:46,894 it wasn't only the drivers 1593 01:16:46,977 --> 01:16:48,437 who were never seen again. 1594 01:16:48,896 --> 01:16:53,776 Their captain, Edson Ramires, also left without a word. 1595 01:16:54,527 --> 01:16:56,946 He was a friend to everyone, 1596 01:16:57,029 --> 01:16:58,197 spoke with everyone, 1597 01:16:58,280 --> 01:16:59,782 would help everyone... 1598 01:16:59,865 --> 01:17:01,450 would help everyone... 1599 01:17:01,534 --> 01:17:04,245 just go without saying goodbye. 1600 01:17:13,170 --> 01:17:15,381 January, 1996. 1601 01:17:15,631 --> 01:17:19,051 A radiologist has an unexpected visit by the military 1602 01:17:19,468 --> 01:17:22,221 while on duty at Hospital Regional. 1603 01:17:22,721 --> 01:17:24,849 He agrees to share his story, 1604 01:17:24,932 --> 01:17:27,643 provided his identity remains concealed. 1605 01:17:28,144 --> 01:17:31,647 Outside the gated courtyard, there was a truck 1606 01:17:32,273 --> 01:17:33,983 from ESA, military. 1607 01:17:35,234 --> 01:17:37,403 In the courtyard, there was a jeep, 1608 01:17:37,486 --> 01:17:38,863 with more military personnel, 1609 01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:42,533 and another eight or ten police vehicles. 1610 01:17:43,826 --> 01:17:46,078 No one gets in, and nobody goes out. 1611 01:17:46,704 --> 01:17:48,581 So we have a big military presence 1612 01:17:48,831 --> 01:17:50,207 on the outside of the hospital. 1613 01:17:50,458 --> 01:17:52,293 We got two army and two police 1614 01:17:52,376 --> 01:17:54,211 on the inside of the hospital with a box, 1615 01:17:54,545 --> 01:17:57,256 and something inside of a black zip body bag. 1616 01:17:58,507 --> 01:18:01,260 They asked me to do the X-rays 1617 01:18:01,343 --> 01:18:03,179 of the parts they requested: 1618 01:18:03,929 --> 01:18:05,181 the skull, 1619 01:18:05,264 --> 01:18:06,432 cervical spine, 1620 01:18:06,599 --> 01:18:07,600 thorax, 1621 01:18:07,683 --> 01:18:09,435 abdomen, pelvis, 1622 01:18:09,643 --> 01:18:10,936 and legs and arms. 1623 01:18:14,607 --> 01:18:16,567 Their eyes 1624 01:18:16,692 --> 01:18:17,818 were fixed, 1625 01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,946 observing me all the time 1626 01:18:21,030 --> 01:18:22,448 to see what I was doing. 1627 01:18:22,531 --> 01:18:24,492 But they didn't say anything. 1628 01:18:26,619 --> 01:18:28,954 Even among themselves. 1629 01:18:30,706 --> 01:18:32,708 The X-rays were developed, 1630 01:18:32,791 --> 01:18:34,502 and at the time, 1631 01:18:35,211 --> 01:18:37,963 I saw no images. 1632 01:18:38,047 --> 01:18:40,633 It all was taken by the military that day. 1633 01:18:42,259 --> 01:18:45,471 Normally, I verify the images are correct, 1634 01:18:45,638 --> 01:18:47,181 but on this day, 1635 01:18:47,515 --> 01:18:48,766 I didn't verify them. 1636 01:18:52,353 --> 01:18:53,354 Then... 1637 01:18:54,855 --> 01:18:57,650 ...uh, one person who was there said, 1638 01:18:57,733 --> 01:18:59,068 Your job is done. 1639 01:18:59,151 --> 01:19:00,236 Thank you very much. 1640 01:19:00,945 --> 01:19:02,238 Your job is done. 1641 01:19:02,321 --> 01:19:04,573 Don't comment on what you saw, 1642 01:19:04,657 --> 01:19:05,950 or what you did. 1643 01:19:07,993 --> 01:19:09,245 Well, what did it smell like? 1644 01:19:09,912 --> 01:19:11,705 The smell was strong, 1645 01:19:11,956 --> 01:19:14,959 a mix between sulfur and ammonia. 1646 01:19:15,751 --> 01:19:20,256 When they took whatever it was in that black bag, 1647 01:19:20,464 --> 01:19:21,840 and they left the hospital, 1648 01:19:21,924 --> 01:19:23,425 the military, and the police, 1649 01:19:23,926 --> 01:19:26,679 with that bag and that thing, 1650 01:19:27,721 --> 01:19:29,139 did the smell leave? 1651 01:19:29,598 --> 01:19:32,268 Despite all the cleaning, 1652 01:19:32,434 --> 01:19:33,561 disinfecting, 1653 01:19:33,644 --> 01:19:35,729 the smell remained. 1654 01:19:36,272 --> 01:19:38,732 And that section of the hospital was closed. 1655 01:19:38,816 --> 01:19:41,402 We couldn't serve the public 1656 01:19:41,902 --> 01:19:44,113 because the smell was so strong. 1657 01:19:46,699 --> 01:19:49,285 The smell was still there the next day, 1658 01:19:49,368 --> 01:19:50,869 and everyone was complaining. 1659 01:19:51,537 --> 01:19:55,416 The smell impregnated my nose and respiratory system, 1660 01:19:55,499 --> 01:19:56,959 for three or four days. 1661 01:19:59,253 --> 01:20:00,504 Three of the most... 1662 01:20:01,088 --> 01:20:02,923 ...strange, bizarre... 1663 01:20:03,716 --> 01:20:04,800 ...points... 1664 01:20:05,593 --> 01:20:06,635 ...of this... 1665 01:20:07,386 --> 01:20:08,429 encounter. 1666 01:20:08,679 --> 01:20:10,723 The first thing I found really strange: 1667 01:20:10,806 --> 01:20:12,808 They selected me 1668 01:20:12,891 --> 01:20:15,477 to do this kind of procedure 1669 01:20:15,561 --> 01:20:18,397 because it could have been done by any professional. 1670 01:20:18,939 --> 01:20:21,400 The other thing: They asked for secrecy. 1671 01:20:22,192 --> 01:20:23,652 All in secret, 1672 01:20:23,736 --> 01:20:25,779 what we did in that room. 1673 01:20:26,322 --> 01:20:29,074 The other thing: They also refused me access 1674 01:20:29,158 --> 01:20:30,743 to the images I took. 1675 01:20:31,410 --> 01:20:32,578 They thanked me, 1676 01:20:32,661 --> 01:20:34,913 and told me not to say anything. 1677 01:20:35,706 --> 01:20:36,749 Stay quiet. 1678 01:20:43,047 --> 01:20:45,090 Probably about ten months ago, 1679 01:20:46,467 --> 01:20:49,178 Marco managed to reach... 1680 01:20:50,054 --> 01:20:53,724 ...a vetted, legitimate witness who was involved 1681 01:20:53,807 --> 01:20:56,268 in the transportation of the-- 1682 01:20:57,186 --> 01:20:59,772 they call him E.T., or the being. 1683 01:21:00,522 --> 01:21:04,234 Um... This guy was so... scared. 1684 01:21:04,818 --> 01:21:08,447 Um, Marco spent, I think, eight to ten months 1685 01:21:09,031 --> 01:21:12,201 slowly developing a relationship with this guy. 1686 01:21:13,285 --> 01:21:15,496 And about four days ago, 1687 01:21:15,996 --> 01:21:19,124 he agreed to meet with me and Marco, just the two of us. 1688 01:21:19,416 --> 01:21:23,128 So we drove late into the night, we met him at a bar. 1689 01:21:23,212 --> 01:21:25,964 When we arrived, he was with another guy. 1690 01:21:27,716 --> 01:21:29,760 He took us to a different location, 1691 01:21:29,843 --> 01:21:32,388 and we sat outside and we talked for a couple of hours 1692 01:21:32,846 --> 01:21:35,849 about coming forward, appearing in the documentary. 1693 01:21:36,350 --> 01:21:38,977 I've never, ever had the opportunity 1694 01:21:39,061 --> 01:21:40,437 to interview a witness 1695 01:21:40,521 --> 01:21:43,065 that potentially handled an extraterrestrial being. 1696 01:21:45,526 --> 01:21:48,737 I worry about the military getting wind of what's going on 1697 01:21:48,821 --> 01:21:51,740 'cause they're clearly paying attention to this witness. 1698 01:21:51,907 --> 01:21:54,243 I'm worried about them-- Him getting a phone call, 1699 01:21:54,326 --> 01:21:56,704 reminding him of his oath to secrecy. 1700 01:21:57,663 --> 01:22:01,291 I don't wanna put someone else's family in harm's way. 1701 01:22:03,627 --> 01:22:05,754 So you're always in the back of your mind 1702 01:22:05,921 --> 01:22:07,506 in a situation like this, 1703 01:22:07,589 --> 01:22:08,757 you know that at any moment, 1704 01:22:08,841 --> 01:22:10,217 the carpet can get pulled out from under you 1705 01:22:10,300 --> 01:22:12,344 and that it's not a done deal until it's a done deal. 1706 01:22:13,470 --> 01:22:16,265 Listen, I wonder if we should rent a hotel room 1707 01:22:16,598 --> 01:22:18,434 and then have him come to us. 1708 01:22:19,101 --> 01:22:20,811 Because then we can get all the gear 1709 01:22:20,894 --> 01:22:24,314 inside the hotel room and then he can just show up and walk in. 1710 01:22:24,440 --> 01:22:26,734 We can-- We can stop in the gas station. 1711 01:22:27,985 --> 01:22:31,613 Marco coordinates with the witness, Military X, 1712 01:22:31,697 --> 01:22:33,824 to secure a safe meeting location. 1713 01:22:33,907 --> 01:22:35,951 Yes, I made appointment with him 1714 01:22:36,034 --> 01:22:38,912 in the-- some hotel right here, close to here, and then-- 1715 01:22:38,996 --> 01:22:41,206 - so I think we have to drove... - We should go to the hotel first. 1716 01:22:41,290 --> 01:22:42,458 - Yeah, we go in. - Check in 1717 01:22:42,541 --> 01:22:44,209 -and then he just walks in. -Yeah, exactly. 1718 01:22:44,293 --> 01:22:45,711 - Now. Let's go. - That's... Yeah, let's go. 1719 01:22:46,420 --> 01:22:47,546 Thanks! 1720 01:22:50,048 --> 01:22:53,510 I feel that... that anxiety in my stomach, you know? 1721 01:22:54,553 --> 01:22:55,679 It's just like... 1722 01:22:57,264 --> 01:23:00,350 ...we pull this off and it's... it's like... 1723 01:23:01,101 --> 01:23:02,102 ...first time. 1724 01:23:02,728 --> 01:23:04,313 It'll be the most compelling testimony 1725 01:23:04,396 --> 01:23:06,940 ever revealed on the history of this case. 1726 01:23:08,525 --> 01:23:10,611 No question-- Oh my fucking God, that hill is so steep. 1727 01:23:10,694 --> 01:23:11,737 I know... 1728 01:23:17,785 --> 01:23:19,620 Entrada. This is the hotel. 1729 01:23:19,745 --> 01:23:21,663 I would get a quick shot of it, 1730 01:23:21,747 --> 01:23:23,916 and I'd shut these cameras off right now. 1731 01:23:25,125 --> 01:23:27,169 Can you guys do that? Shut everything off-- 1732 01:23:30,172 --> 01:23:31,173 Guys! 1733 01:23:31,882 --> 01:23:33,175 - Yeah. - Right. 1734 01:23:33,425 --> 01:23:35,093 - Right here. - Alright. 1735 01:23:36,011 --> 01:23:37,012 Take this gear. 1736 01:23:37,513 --> 01:23:39,181 - Fuck, this room is small. - This is way-- 1737 01:23:39,264 --> 01:23:40,891 You-- you can't even use these cameras in here. 1738 01:23:41,099 --> 01:23:42,309 Oh, my God, okay. 1739 01:23:42,643 --> 01:23:45,020 Uh, he's trying to find a room with two beds. 1740 01:23:46,021 --> 01:23:48,565 You better... Yeah. 1741 01:23:53,779 --> 01:23:54,780 Mark it. 1742 01:23:55,739 --> 01:23:56,740 Okay. 1743 01:23:56,865 --> 01:23:58,200 You're going to be called Military X. 1744 01:23:58,283 --> 01:23:59,743 - Mm-hmm. - Okay? 1745 01:24:03,121 --> 01:24:04,122 Okay, it's on. 1746 01:24:04,206 --> 01:24:05,916 Okay, so we are sitting here 1747 01:24:05,999 --> 01:24:07,709 with Military X, 1748 01:24:08,502 --> 01:24:11,713 um, who clearly doesn't want his identity revealed, 1749 01:24:11,797 --> 01:24:13,090 which we're not gonna do. 1750 01:24:13,465 --> 01:24:17,553 And, uh, he's gonna provide enough detail, not too much, 1751 01:24:17,636 --> 01:24:20,597 but enough detail on-- on operations that he was involved with, 1752 01:24:20,681 --> 01:24:22,015 with the Varginha case. 1753 01:24:26,019 --> 01:24:29,064 It was a normal day. I was at the army base, 1754 01:24:29,773 --> 01:24:33,360 when around nine, 1755 01:24:33,443 --> 01:24:34,570 nine-thirty, 1756 01:24:35,028 --> 01:24:36,989 I don't remember exactly, it's been a long time, 1757 01:24:37,239 --> 01:24:38,407 Mm-hmm. 1758 01:24:38,657 --> 01:24:40,659 they called me, 1759 01:24:40,742 --> 01:24:43,704 we use the term summoned, 1760 01:24:44,413 --> 01:24:45,622 to... 1761 01:24:46,707 --> 01:24:48,792 ...show up at his office. 1762 01:24:49,418 --> 01:24:50,919 Today, he's a Colonel, 1763 01:24:51,086 --> 01:24:52,754 Vanderlei. 1764 01:24:53,797 --> 01:24:54,965 And, 1765 01:24:55,048 --> 01:24:56,633 along with other officers, 1766 01:24:57,676 --> 01:25:00,053 I was instructed to prepare 1767 01:25:00,554 --> 01:25:02,890 some vehicles, 1768 01:25:02,973 --> 01:25:04,975 the trucks, for a mission. 1769 01:25:05,851 --> 01:25:08,604 They didn't say what that mission would be. 1770 01:25:09,521 --> 01:25:11,064 And that 1771 01:25:11,148 --> 01:25:14,818 we were going to the city of Varginha. 1772 01:25:16,945 --> 01:25:18,739 We were ordered 1773 01:25:19,156 --> 01:25:20,198 to follow 1774 01:25:21,158 --> 01:25:24,786 some... unmarked vehicles, 1775 01:25:24,870 --> 01:25:26,204 non-military vehicles. 1776 01:25:26,997 --> 01:25:29,249 And, if I remember it right, it was a Kombi. 1777 01:25:29,875 --> 01:25:30,959 Okay? 1778 01:25:31,043 --> 01:25:32,753 A Kombi, and... 1779 01:25:34,046 --> 01:25:36,465 Wherever they stopped, we stopped as well. 1780 01:25:37,382 --> 01:25:41,428 We were going to the city of Varginha. 1781 01:25:41,803 --> 01:25:43,388 When we get there, 1782 01:25:43,472 --> 01:25:44,640 we stay put. 1783 01:25:51,647 --> 01:25:53,398 The convoy stopped. 1784 01:25:53,482 --> 01:25:56,401 The military personnel 1785 01:25:56,485 --> 01:25:58,070 belonging to 1786 01:25:58,153 --> 01:26:00,030 group S2, 1787 01:26:00,113 --> 01:26:01,949 which is the Army's Secret Service, 1788 01:26:02,282 --> 01:26:05,619 were ordered to remain there, 1789 01:26:05,702 --> 01:26:07,162 until further notice. 1790 01:26:07,245 --> 01:26:08,246 Mm-hmm. 1791 01:26:08,580 --> 01:26:10,248 And so... 1792 01:26:10,332 --> 01:26:12,709 three soldiers, 1793 01:26:12,793 --> 01:26:15,087 who were driving the other vehicles, 1794 01:26:15,587 --> 01:26:16,797 and... 1795 01:26:17,214 --> 01:26:19,299 were each to move to a different location. 1796 01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:20,801 Then 1797 01:26:21,510 --> 01:26:24,972 I followed this military guy 1798 01:26:25,055 --> 01:26:26,682 who belonged to the Secret Service, 1799 01:26:26,765 --> 01:26:28,266 passing through downtown, 1800 01:26:28,767 --> 01:26:31,645 near Regional Hospital, if I'm not mistaken. 1801 01:26:31,853 --> 01:26:33,772 - Mm-hmm. - And then we went to 1802 01:26:33,855 --> 01:26:35,857 Humanitas Hospital. 1803 01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:40,612 Then, we were given the order to... 1804 01:26:41,613 --> 01:26:44,992 ...back the trucks into Humanitas Hospital. 1805 01:26:47,786 --> 01:26:50,038 Arriving at the gate... 1806 01:26:50,914 --> 01:26:52,207 How can I put it? 1807 01:26:52,708 --> 01:26:55,168 The hospital scene... 1808 01:26:55,627 --> 01:26:57,004 I saw a box. 1809 01:26:57,379 --> 01:27:00,799 A stainless steel table with a box. 1810 01:27:00,882 --> 01:27:03,427 - Mm-hmm. - There were doctors, 1811 01:27:03,510 --> 01:27:06,513 people carrying clipboards... 1812 01:27:06,596 --> 01:27:07,597 Uh... 1813 01:27:08,765 --> 01:27:12,227 analyzing. It looked like they all seemed scared of it. 1814 01:27:12,394 --> 01:27:14,396 And when I looked... 1815 01:27:16,106 --> 01:27:17,858 ...I saw... 1816 01:27:18,650 --> 01:27:20,152 ...something different. 1817 01:27:20,736 --> 01:27:23,155 Okay? A different creature, 1818 01:27:23,238 --> 01:27:26,867 with the very oily skin. 1819 01:27:27,701 --> 01:27:29,286 Uh, a lot of oil... 1820 01:27:29,369 --> 01:27:31,413 like silicone. 1821 01:27:31,913 --> 01:27:33,623 Seeing that, I got scared. 1822 01:27:34,124 --> 01:27:36,376 When he was in Humanitas, 1823 01:27:36,668 --> 01:27:38,920 this is where he saw part of the creature? 1824 01:27:39,254 --> 01:27:42,424 -Yes. -What was the atmosphere like? 1825 01:27:42,841 --> 01:27:47,220 What were the looks on the faces of the other people in the room? 1826 01:27:47,763 --> 01:27:49,306 -Yeah. -What was it like? 1827 01:27:49,389 --> 01:27:50,932 Can he put me in that room? 1828 01:27:52,309 --> 01:27:55,520 I felt a climate of tension, 1829 01:27:56,772 --> 01:27:58,440 a climate of tension. 1830 01:28:00,150 --> 01:28:03,445 Uh, everyone looked at everyone else, 1831 01:28:03,945 --> 01:28:06,615 wondering what was going on. 1832 01:28:06,823 --> 01:28:08,658 - Mm-hmm. - That's the truth. 1833 01:28:09,326 --> 01:28:11,411 What caught my attention, 1834 01:28:11,495 --> 01:28:13,121 was the foot. 1835 01:28:13,997 --> 01:28:15,874 It was like this. 1836 01:28:16,875 --> 01:28:19,127 Practically two fingers. 1837 01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:25,509 When he looked and he saw the... the leg, 1838 01:28:25,592 --> 01:28:26,885 -or part of the leg, -Mm-hmm. 1839 01:28:26,968 --> 01:28:28,178 and the foot, with the-- 1840 01:28:28,261 --> 01:28:29,930 with the "V", right? 1841 01:28:30,514 --> 01:28:31,598 What did he think? 1842 01:28:31,681 --> 01:28:33,183 What got my attention, 1843 01:28:33,266 --> 01:28:35,268 what led me to believe 1844 01:28:35,352 --> 01:28:37,062 that it wasn't a human being, 1845 01:28:38,063 --> 01:28:39,064 was the foot. 1846 01:28:39,147 --> 01:28:40,190 Mm-hmm. 1847 01:28:43,235 --> 01:28:44,861 Everybody was shocked... 1848 01:28:46,988 --> 01:28:48,615 Very shocked. 1849 01:28:49,825 --> 01:28:51,284 I looked at it, 1850 01:28:51,493 --> 01:28:52,744 then looked away 1851 01:28:52,828 --> 01:28:54,204 because I got scared. 1852 01:28:54,621 --> 01:28:55,914 I looked at it. 1853 01:28:55,997 --> 01:28:57,999 "What is that?" When I looked, 1854 01:28:58,083 --> 01:29:00,085 and my expression changed, 1855 01:29:00,544 --> 01:29:02,838 I was, uh... 1856 01:29:03,213 --> 01:29:04,798 ...in over my head 1857 01:29:04,881 --> 01:29:06,341 with the situation. 1858 01:29:06,424 --> 01:29:07,801 They did this. 1859 01:29:08,176 --> 01:29:11,221 A soldier, I think it was a soldier from the fire department, 1860 01:29:12,055 --> 01:29:13,515 "Leave, leave, leave." 1861 01:29:14,015 --> 01:29:15,934 So, I took a step back, 1862 01:29:16,309 --> 01:29:17,435 and turned around. 1863 01:29:18,311 --> 01:29:19,521 But before I left, 1864 01:29:20,522 --> 01:29:23,233 I remember to the right of the box, 1865 01:29:23,900 --> 01:29:26,153 there was a soldier with a camera, 1866 01:29:26,236 --> 01:29:27,821 but he wasn't filming. 1867 01:29:28,446 --> 01:29:30,907 He had it hanging here. 1868 01:29:30,991 --> 01:29:33,368 He had it hanging here. 1869 01:29:34,995 --> 01:29:39,499 ESA military base is roughly 20 miles southeast of Varginha. 1870 01:29:41,585 --> 01:29:43,044 According to witnesses, 1871 01:29:43,128 --> 01:29:46,506 the army operations originated from here. 1872 01:29:47,966 --> 01:29:52,804 Is there filmed footage, video footage of the creature 1873 01:29:52,888 --> 01:29:54,097 that he knows about? 1874 01:29:54,389 --> 01:29:57,267 He asked if there is any copy, any tape, 1875 01:29:57,517 --> 01:30:00,896 that was shot at the hospital that was brought to your attention? 1876 01:30:02,063 --> 01:30:03,440 Yes. 1877 01:30:03,523 --> 01:30:04,941 They have it for sure. 1878 01:30:05,984 --> 01:30:07,027 For sure. 1879 01:30:07,110 --> 01:30:12,199 Military X says that, on January 22nd, 1996, 1880 01:30:12,282 --> 01:30:16,661 he drove the creature from Humanitas Hospital in Varginha 1881 01:30:16,912 --> 01:30:20,790 to ESA army base, where it would remain overnight. 1882 01:30:22,584 --> 01:30:24,461 We parked the vehicles, 1883 01:30:25,086 --> 01:30:26,338 as instructed. 1884 01:30:26,630 --> 01:30:31,051 Uh, we went to the office. 1885 01:30:31,426 --> 01:30:32,427 Right? 1886 01:30:32,928 --> 01:30:36,223 They focused on me, 1887 01:30:37,224 --> 01:30:38,516 with this other military guy. 1888 01:30:38,725 --> 01:30:41,186 He looked at me straight in the eyes, 1889 01:30:41,269 --> 01:30:42,812 and asked what I saw. 1890 01:30:44,773 --> 01:30:48,526 I said, "I think it was a burnt man or... 1891 01:30:49,110 --> 01:30:50,528 something." 1892 01:30:51,112 --> 01:30:53,031 He said: "No, 1893 01:30:53,114 --> 01:30:54,282 that's not what you saw." 1894 01:30:55,075 --> 01:30:56,451 I don't know if he... 1895 01:30:57,118 --> 01:31:00,205 ...uh, thought I was trying to deceive him. 1896 01:31:00,372 --> 01:31:01,831 Like, "He knows, 1897 01:31:01,915 --> 01:31:03,416 but doesn't want to say." 1898 01:31:05,126 --> 01:31:06,878 That's when he said that... 1899 01:31:07,754 --> 01:31:09,547 ...what I saw was... 1900 01:31:10,548 --> 01:31:12,133 ...supernatural. 1901 01:31:15,595 --> 01:31:18,890 Does he have any idea 1902 01:31:19,641 --> 01:31:23,687 where the creature... went? 1903 01:31:23,770 --> 01:31:27,065 Because, uh, it went to Regional, 1904 01:31:27,148 --> 01:31:29,901 then Humanitas, then ESA, 1905 01:31:30,318 --> 01:31:31,361 then Campinas. 1906 01:31:31,778 --> 01:31:32,946 And then what happened? 1907 01:31:33,154 --> 01:31:34,656 Varginha, ESA... 1908 01:31:34,739 --> 01:31:36,533 According to Military X, 1909 01:31:36,616 --> 01:31:38,576 he transported a creature 1910 01:31:38,660 --> 01:31:41,204 from Humanitas Hospital in Varginha 1911 01:31:41,288 --> 01:31:44,666 to ESA military base in Tres Coraçoes, 1912 01:31:44,749 --> 01:31:46,209 where it stayed for the night. 1913 01:31:47,752 --> 01:31:50,338 For the first time ever, then police chief, 1914 01:31:50,422 --> 01:31:55,302 Mr. Pedro Aguiar, describes what he saw at the base. 1915 01:31:55,927 --> 01:32:00,307 I entered, and I had never seen so much military brass. 1916 01:32:00,807 --> 01:32:02,475 It was a big oval space, 1917 01:32:02,726 --> 01:32:04,102 full of brass. 1918 01:32:04,185 --> 01:32:05,395 Full of officials. 1919 01:32:06,730 --> 01:32:08,982 At the back of ESA 1920 01:32:09,065 --> 01:32:11,192 helicopters were coming in and going out... 1921 01:32:11,276 --> 01:32:12,777 flying in and out. 1922 01:32:12,861 --> 01:32:14,612 And at the back of ESA... 1923 01:32:14,738 --> 01:32:18,116 I learned that they took it to Campinas. 1924 01:32:20,368 --> 01:32:21,995 Early the following morning, 1925 01:32:22,078 --> 01:32:23,913 the convoy continued their mission, 1926 01:32:23,997 --> 01:32:26,541 heading south on Fernao Dias freeway, 1927 01:32:26,624 --> 01:32:30,253 then west on Don Pedro to EsPCEx army base, 1928 01:32:30,337 --> 01:32:31,963 in the city of Campinas. 1929 01:32:35,091 --> 01:32:38,636 I think they did a study in Campinas. 1930 01:32:39,721 --> 01:32:45,018 Uh, now, some things I don't know and can't prove, but 1931 01:32:45,602 --> 01:32:47,354 the rumors at the time 1932 01:32:47,729 --> 01:32:50,023 were that it went to the United States. 1933 01:32:51,066 --> 01:32:55,695 We... weren't really equipped, 1934 01:32:56,279 --> 01:32:57,572 honestly, 1935 01:32:58,323 --> 01:32:59,783 to keep 1936 01:32:59,908 --> 01:33:01,242 the creature here. 1937 01:33:04,704 --> 01:33:06,331 They took it to Campinas, 1938 01:33:06,414 --> 01:33:08,666 and from Campinas, they took it to the United States. 1939 01:33:10,585 --> 01:33:11,753 When the General... 1940 01:33:12,754 --> 01:33:16,674 ...told me it was an issue of National Security, 1941 01:33:17,384 --> 01:33:19,344 it's dead. It's done. 1942 01:33:21,262 --> 01:33:22,639 The Brazilian Air Force. 1943 01:33:22,722 --> 01:33:25,100 The team meets with Brazilian Air Force 1944 01:33:25,183 --> 01:33:28,978 Traffic Control Officer José Manoel Fernandes. 1945 01:33:29,854 --> 01:33:32,565 His unit was responsible for monitoring 1946 01:33:32,649 --> 01:33:34,317 specific airspace 1947 01:33:34,401 --> 01:33:36,236 over the state of Sao Paulo. 1948 01:33:36,528 --> 01:33:38,238 Do you know anything about this case? 1949 01:33:38,655 --> 01:33:39,864 What I know... 1950 01:33:40,782 --> 01:33:44,702 Um, USAF lands in Campinas. 1951 01:33:45,370 --> 01:33:48,206 A USAF airplane lands in Campinas. 1952 01:33:48,790 --> 01:33:51,084 And two helicopters 1953 01:33:51,167 --> 01:33:53,294 took off from Campinas airport 1954 01:33:53,378 --> 01:33:55,755 to an unknown place. 1955 01:33:56,464 --> 01:33:58,842 Afterward, we learned that it was 1956 01:33:59,175 --> 01:34:00,635 the city of Varginha. 1957 01:34:01,511 --> 01:34:02,512 It landed, 1958 01:34:03,054 --> 01:34:05,014 collected something, 1959 01:34:05,598 --> 01:34:06,808 nobody knows what, 1960 01:34:07,308 --> 01:34:09,269 returned to Campinas, 1961 01:34:09,811 --> 01:34:11,604 put it in the USAF airplane, 1962 01:34:12,564 --> 01:34:15,775 took off and left. 1963 01:34:16,067 --> 01:34:18,027 And the mission was... 1964 01:34:18,486 --> 01:34:19,988 What they told us, 1965 01:34:20,071 --> 01:34:21,156 "Silence." 1966 01:34:21,239 --> 01:34:22,449 "Total silence." 1967 01:34:22,866 --> 01:34:24,826 Was it, uh, Americans involved? 1968 01:34:24,951 --> 01:34:26,703 Or was it just the Brazilians involved? 1969 01:34:26,911 --> 01:34:27,912 Uh... 1970 01:34:29,164 --> 01:34:32,167 Was it only Brazilians or Americans? 1971 01:34:32,250 --> 01:34:34,377 Only Americans. Only. 1972 01:34:35,128 --> 01:34:38,256 The Brazilians supported 1973 01:34:38,339 --> 01:34:40,091 only the ground operation. 1974 01:34:40,341 --> 01:34:43,845 What was collected 1975 01:34:44,137 --> 01:34:45,221 is not known. 1976 01:34:45,305 --> 01:34:47,474 But something was collected. 1977 01:34:48,266 --> 01:34:50,768 And how does he know that the Americans were involved? 1978 01:34:50,977 --> 01:34:53,980 How do you know Americans were involved? 1979 01:34:54,481 --> 01:34:56,399 Because they landed, 1980 01:34:57,358 --> 01:35:00,695 uh, without authorization of the Brazilian government. 1981 01:35:00,778 --> 01:35:02,238 It was a secret mission. 1982 01:35:03,448 --> 01:35:05,158 And it was a USAF airplane. 1983 01:35:09,287 --> 01:35:11,456 In December of 2022, 1984 01:35:11,539 --> 01:35:13,541 our team filed a FOIA, 1985 01:35:13,625 --> 01:35:16,085 Freedom of Information Act request, 1986 01:35:16,211 --> 01:35:19,214 for all U.S. government flights during the period 1987 01:35:19,297 --> 01:35:24,093 of 14 January to 28 January 1996 1988 01:35:24,177 --> 01:35:26,262 to and from Campinas, 1989 01:35:26,346 --> 01:35:28,681 and Sao Paulo State, Brazil. 1990 01:35:29,599 --> 01:35:32,685 Three years later, the CIA sent us a response. 1991 01:36:10,348 --> 01:36:13,101 It was 9:00 in the evening. 1992 01:36:13,685 --> 01:36:15,603 The girls were already asleep. 1993 01:36:16,437 --> 01:36:19,023 And... there was a knock on the door. 1994 01:36:19,274 --> 01:36:21,526 And I innocently opened the door, 1995 01:36:21,609 --> 01:36:22,944 thinking it could be 1996 01:36:23,236 --> 01:36:25,488 one of the researchers who had been here earlier. 1997 01:36:25,572 --> 01:36:26,614 Ubirajara, 1998 01:36:26,698 --> 01:36:28,408 or Pacaccini, for example. 1999 01:36:30,535 --> 01:36:32,870 But then, four men walked in 2000 01:36:32,954 --> 01:36:34,455 that I'd never seen before. 2001 01:36:34,539 --> 01:36:36,499 All dressed in black. 2002 01:36:38,376 --> 01:36:39,836 One was carrying 2003 01:36:39,919 --> 01:36:41,879 a briefcase. 2004 01:36:42,505 --> 01:36:45,174 Another had a clipboard, telling me, 2005 01:36:45,883 --> 01:36:47,427 "Shut the door, shut the door!" 2006 01:36:47,510 --> 01:36:49,012 That scared me. 2007 01:36:52,473 --> 01:36:54,017 Then one of them said to me, 2008 01:36:54,100 --> 01:36:55,977 "Mrs. Luiza, we are here..." 2009 01:36:56,060 --> 01:36:57,687 Only one of them spoke, 2010 01:36:57,770 --> 01:37:00,690 one took notes, and the others were silent, 2011 01:37:01,107 --> 01:37:02,650 just listening. 2012 01:37:03,192 --> 01:37:04,861 "We are here 2013 01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:08,114 to make a great proposal to you 2014 01:37:08,740 --> 01:37:09,907 because 2015 01:37:09,991 --> 01:37:12,994 you can become very rich now, if you want." 2016 01:37:13,828 --> 01:37:15,830 I did not understand it at all. 2017 01:37:15,913 --> 01:37:18,207 I was just getting ready for bed. 2018 01:37:18,708 --> 01:37:20,793 I asked, "What is this all about?" 2019 01:37:21,002 --> 01:37:23,546 "You tell the girls... 2020 01:37:24,631 --> 01:37:26,716 ...they saw nothing." 2021 01:37:27,842 --> 01:37:29,677 "The money in this briefcase, 2022 01:37:29,761 --> 01:37:31,054 which will be given to you, 2023 01:37:31,137 --> 01:37:33,139 can only be spent outside of Brazil." 2024 01:37:34,307 --> 01:37:35,642 Then I said, "Mister, 2025 01:37:36,225 --> 01:37:37,852 I cannot do that. 2026 01:37:37,935 --> 01:37:39,479 My daughters really saw something. 2027 01:37:39,562 --> 01:37:42,649 I cannot portray them as liars, 2028 01:37:42,732 --> 01:37:44,609 or be a liar myself." 2029 01:37:46,402 --> 01:37:49,489 "I won't agree to this deal with you. 2030 01:37:49,572 --> 01:37:51,658 Excuse me, you will get out of my house 2031 01:37:51,741 --> 01:37:52,909 or I'll call the police." 2032 01:37:53,618 --> 01:37:55,995 They insisted and insisted. 2033 01:37:56,329 --> 01:37:58,289 But suddenly they left. 2034 01:37:58,915 --> 01:38:00,875 I ran to the gate, 2035 01:38:01,376 --> 01:38:03,920 to see what kind of car they had. 2036 01:38:05,546 --> 01:38:07,507 And they were gone. 2037 01:38:08,591 --> 01:38:11,302 I couldn't place them, but they weren't from Brazil. 2038 01:38:11,719 --> 01:38:13,054 They were foreigners. 2039 01:38:27,735 --> 01:38:29,320 I pulled up to 2040 01:38:29,487 --> 01:38:30,988 a gas station 2041 01:38:31,155 --> 01:38:32,407 to have a coffee, 2042 01:38:32,990 --> 01:38:34,701 so I could relax a little. 2043 01:38:35,201 --> 01:38:36,577 And then, 2044 01:38:36,661 --> 01:38:38,746 two people came up to me, 2045 01:38:39,539 --> 01:38:41,749 wearing black suits, very neat, 2046 01:38:41,833 --> 01:38:43,084 very tall people. 2047 01:38:43,501 --> 01:38:45,545 They stopped by my side and said, 2048 01:38:45,878 --> 01:38:48,089 "Are you Mr. Carlos de Sousa? 2049 01:38:48,297 --> 01:38:50,758 Married to so-and-so, your daughter is so-and-so..." 2050 01:38:51,759 --> 01:38:53,594 They described my whole life right there. 2051 01:38:54,220 --> 01:38:55,805 I turned to the guy and said, 2052 01:38:55,888 --> 01:38:57,849 "Who are you? How do you know that?" 2053 01:39:01,269 --> 01:39:02,603 He spoke clearly to me, 2054 01:39:03,312 --> 01:39:05,398 "Look, you didn't see anything. You shut up. 2055 01:39:05,815 --> 01:39:06,816 Go away. 2056 01:39:06,899 --> 01:39:09,277 If someone asks, you didn't see anything." 2057 01:39:13,030 --> 01:39:14,115 "You don't know anything. 2058 01:39:14,198 --> 01:39:16,451 If not, things are going to get very... 2059 01:39:17,243 --> 01:39:18,786 weird for you. 2060 01:39:18,870 --> 01:39:20,079 So get out of here." 2061 01:39:21,289 --> 01:39:24,083 Right then, I got... scared. 2062 01:39:29,839 --> 01:39:31,215 It was an Opala, 2063 01:39:31,507 --> 01:39:32,675 black, 2064 01:39:32,884 --> 01:39:34,552 or a very dark blue, almost black, 2065 01:39:34,761 --> 01:39:36,137 and it didn't have a license plate. 2066 01:39:36,596 --> 01:39:38,055 And then they left. 2067 01:39:39,015 --> 01:39:40,308 They disappeared. 2068 01:39:43,895 --> 01:39:45,271 "Anyone 2069 01:39:45,354 --> 01:39:47,190 who dares to... 2070 01:39:48,733 --> 01:39:50,151 ...speak anything 2071 01:39:50,234 --> 01:39:54,030 about what happened or what they saw... 2072 01:39:55,531 --> 01:39:57,742 ...this must never get out. 2073 01:39:58,326 --> 01:40:02,330 If anyone... talks, 2074 01:40:02,914 --> 01:40:04,791 outside these walls, 2075 01:40:05,374 --> 01:40:08,044 the punishment would be very severe." 2076 01:40:08,836 --> 01:40:09,837 Never... 2077 01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:14,383 It was something to be kept extremely secret, 2078 01:40:14,467 --> 01:40:16,344 of extreme importance. 2079 01:40:17,178 --> 01:40:19,972 The secret would remain for life. 2080 01:40:24,435 --> 01:40:27,563 We received an unexpected request for a meeting 2081 01:40:27,855 --> 01:40:31,442 from the chief neurosurgeon at Hospital Regional, 2082 01:40:32,652 --> 01:40:35,613 the same hospital where military police officers, 2083 01:40:35,696 --> 01:40:38,324 Marco Chereze and Eric Lopes, 2084 01:40:38,407 --> 01:40:40,952 allegedly had taken the live alien 2085 01:40:41,035 --> 01:40:42,703 they'd captured on the road. 2086 01:40:43,204 --> 01:40:45,414 The doctor requested the team enter 2087 01:40:45,498 --> 01:40:48,000 by the more inconspicuous back entry. 2088 01:40:48,668 --> 01:40:49,669 No one knew why. 2089 01:40:50,044 --> 01:40:51,337 I'm gonna ask them to take us to 2090 01:40:51,420 --> 01:40:52,964 where the alien was brought. This is 2091 01:40:53,047 --> 01:40:54,715 - Regional Hospital. - Okay, yeah. 2092 01:40:54,799 --> 01:40:57,969 So it went Regional Hospital, and then it went to Humanitas, 2093 01:40:58,261 --> 01:41:00,388 Humanitas, uh, ESA. 2094 01:41:00,638 --> 01:41:03,432 ESA, Campinas. Campinas, America. 2095 01:41:07,770 --> 01:41:09,981 Okay, if you're filming, you have to wear a mask, 2096 01:41:10,064 --> 01:41:11,899 and James and I are gonna wear this. 2097 01:41:12,525 --> 01:41:13,526 Okay. 2098 01:41:13,693 --> 01:41:15,403 I'l tell you the context. 2099 01:41:15,903 --> 01:41:18,281 So let's talk about the context, right? 2100 01:41:18,364 --> 01:41:19,407 Yes. 2101 01:41:19,490 --> 01:41:21,325 Dr. Italo Venturelli, 2102 01:41:21,450 --> 01:41:24,287 the head neurosurgeon at Hospital Regional, 2103 01:41:24,704 --> 01:41:27,415 was on duty in the ICU when he had 2104 01:41:27,498 --> 01:41:30,459 the most extraordinary encounter of his life. 2105 01:41:30,543 --> 01:41:32,378 In-- In this room, or which room? 2106 01:41:32,461 --> 01:41:33,838 -This room. -Right here? 2107 01:41:33,921 --> 01:41:35,464 But the video you watched... 2108 01:41:35,548 --> 01:41:36,841 Holy shit. 2109 01:41:36,924 --> 01:41:39,260 The alien was alive in this bed right there. 2110 01:41:39,427 --> 01:41:40,720 Laid here... 2111 01:41:41,053 --> 01:41:42,471 - So he saw... - ...covered here... 2112 01:41:42,555 --> 01:41:43,806 Saw the creature right there, 2113 01:41:43,890 --> 01:41:45,057 -while he was-- -...covered up, 2114 01:41:45,141 --> 01:41:47,393 while he was watching the video of the surgery. 2115 01:41:47,476 --> 01:41:48,644 Covered up to here. 2116 01:41:48,769 --> 01:41:51,939 The eyes were shaped like teardrops. 2117 01:41:52,523 --> 01:41:55,276 Red. More or less red, okay? 2118 01:41:55,735 --> 01:41:57,737 It was partially covered. 2119 01:41:58,321 --> 01:41:59,447 It was here. 2120 01:41:59,530 --> 01:42:00,615 But it was alive. 2121 01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:04,285 He looked at... in the eyes of the creature 2122 01:42:04,368 --> 01:42:05,745 - Yes. - in this bed, 2123 01:42:05,828 --> 01:42:07,330 - In this-- in this bed. - and what... 2124 01:42:07,747 --> 01:42:09,457 - what did the creature say to you? - Yes. 2125 01:42:09,540 --> 01:42:12,084 -What? - I saw the red eyes... 2126 01:42:12,752 --> 01:42:15,296 Red eyes... White face and red eyes... 2127 01:42:15,379 --> 01:42:17,465 From his facial expression, he wasn't suffering. 2128 01:42:17,548 --> 01:42:21,636 -Was there any telepathic communication? -Absolutely. Absolutely. 2129 01:42:21,802 --> 01:42:23,012 Absolutely. There. 2130 01:42:23,220 --> 01:42:26,015 Kind of communicating, I'm okay. I've been taken care of. 2131 01:42:26,307 --> 01:42:29,143 He said, "Yes, for sure, a communication, 2132 01:42:29,226 --> 01:42:31,646 as someone would say, 'Yes, I am okay, 2133 01:42:31,729 --> 01:42:33,272 I've received care.'" 2134 01:42:33,356 --> 01:42:37,234 That's what he felt from the-- the 2135 01:42:37,318 --> 01:42:39,236 - expression of the being. - Speak without speaking. 2136 01:42:39,403 --> 01:42:41,072 To speak without speaking. 2137 01:42:41,739 --> 01:42:42,823 -Did-- -It spoke without... 2138 01:42:42,907 --> 01:42:44,867 According to Dr. Italo, 2139 01:42:44,951 --> 01:42:48,162 a being underwent a procedure by his colleague, 2140 01:42:48,245 --> 01:42:52,124 fellow neurosurgeon, Dr. Marcos Vinicio Neves, 2141 01:42:52,208 --> 01:42:54,919 who died in 2018 of a heart attack. 2142 01:42:57,088 --> 01:42:59,632 So there's a being right here 2143 01:43:00,132 --> 01:43:01,342 that my colleague looked after. 2144 01:43:01,425 --> 01:43:02,593 Probably did well 2145 01:43:02,677 --> 01:43:04,136 because the being appeared tranquil. 2146 01:43:04,220 --> 01:43:06,389 His hands were relaxed. 2147 01:43:06,472 --> 01:43:08,057 Hands were smaller than ours. 2148 01:43:08,391 --> 01:43:10,142 Arms smaller than ours. 2149 01:43:10,518 --> 01:43:12,144 Face smaller than ours. 2150 01:43:12,603 --> 01:43:14,981 The body of a 7-year-old kid. 2151 01:43:15,731 --> 01:43:17,817 The body of a 7-year-old kid. 2152 01:43:19,110 --> 01:43:20,111 Did... 2153 01:43:21,070 --> 01:43:22,530 Is everything okay? 2154 01:43:25,157 --> 01:43:27,243 No, I'm here. I'll be out soon. 2155 01:43:27,952 --> 01:43:30,162 Dr. Italo decided to come forward 2156 01:43:30,246 --> 01:43:33,040 after he suffered a near-fatal heart attack 2157 01:43:33,124 --> 01:43:35,334 a few months prior to meeting with us. 2158 01:43:36,043 --> 01:43:39,338 Now determined not to take the secret to the grave, 2159 01:43:39,422 --> 01:43:41,340 regardless of the consequences. 2160 01:43:43,384 --> 01:43:44,593 This can create a problem for me. 2161 01:43:44,677 --> 01:43:45,886 Yes, I know doctor... 2162 01:43:45,970 --> 01:43:47,221 - That's what we didn't want. - It's okay. 2163 01:43:47,304 --> 01:43:49,432 Would you like us to stop? 2164 01:43:49,807 --> 01:43:51,517 No, we can talk more. 2165 01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:53,185 Here, is not a problem? 2166 01:43:53,269 --> 01:43:54,937 - Let's go outside. - Let's go outside. 2167 01:43:58,065 --> 01:43:59,150 All of the witnesses 2168 01:43:59,233 --> 01:44:00,568 our team met with 2169 01:44:00,818 --> 01:44:04,280 still suffer under the weight of the enforced secrecy. 2170 01:44:06,073 --> 01:44:07,742 This picture, 2171 01:44:07,908 --> 01:44:09,535 in this news article, 2172 01:44:09,660 --> 01:44:11,328 was the first time 2173 01:44:11,412 --> 01:44:12,496 that my mother 2174 01:44:12,580 --> 01:44:13,622 participated. 2175 01:44:13,706 --> 01:44:14,832 YES, WE HAVE AN E.T. 2176 01:44:14,915 --> 01:44:16,167 A REPORT OF A THIRD-DEGREE ENCOUNTER 2177 01:44:16,250 --> 01:44:17,835 TURNED VARGINHA INTO THE BRAZILIAN ROSWELL. 2178 01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:20,004 The first and only time. 2179 01:44:20,087 --> 01:44:23,674 LOURDES AND MARTA WITH CHEREZE'S PHOTO: "HE MUST HAVE BEEN INFECTED BY THE E.T." 2180 01:44:26,969 --> 01:44:28,929 I was outraged 2181 01:44:29,013 --> 01:44:31,390 by the attitude of the police. 2182 01:44:31,474 --> 01:44:33,392 Twenty-five years ago, 2183 01:44:33,809 --> 01:44:36,604 they came to my mother and told her 2184 01:44:36,687 --> 01:44:38,397 the story of the creature was true. 2185 01:44:38,647 --> 01:44:39,815 It happened. 2186 01:44:41,025 --> 01:44:43,819 But they couldn't admit the truth 2187 01:44:44,111 --> 01:44:45,613 to society 2188 01:44:45,738 --> 01:44:48,574 because the population would collapse. 2189 01:44:55,289 --> 01:44:56,874 If his story... 2190 01:44:57,500 --> 01:44:58,751 ...is true... 2191 01:45:00,211 --> 01:45:02,129 ...he is walking around 2192 01:45:02,671 --> 01:45:04,840 with a level of confirmation 2193 01:45:04,924 --> 01:45:07,927 that only a handful of people on this planet have. 2194 01:45:08,511 --> 01:45:11,180 What does that feel like? 2195 01:45:12,056 --> 01:45:14,850 I remember Marco's words when I met him. 2196 01:45:14,934 --> 01:45:17,978 One of the first things he said to me was, 2197 01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:20,648 "Wow man, I wish I was in your place. 2198 01:45:21,941 --> 01:45:23,526 I wish I was in your place 2199 01:45:23,859 --> 01:45:25,277 because you 2200 01:45:25,694 --> 01:45:28,405 lived something I dream of living." 2201 01:45:29,198 --> 01:45:30,908 And, to be honest, 2202 01:45:30,991 --> 01:45:33,035 I'm indifferent to that; 2203 01:45:33,119 --> 01:45:34,954 It's not something I'm attracted to. 2204 01:45:35,871 --> 01:45:38,707 It'd a story, it's something I've lived 2205 01:45:39,333 --> 01:45:41,961 that's significant to a lot of people, 2206 01:45:43,462 --> 01:45:45,631 to the world, to humankind. 2207 01:45:46,298 --> 01:45:47,424 But, 2208 01:45:47,508 --> 01:45:50,594 while you look for it, search for it, 2209 01:45:51,220 --> 01:45:53,264 I wish I hadn't lived it. 2210 01:45:53,806 --> 01:45:54,849 Honestly. 2211 01:45:54,932 --> 01:45:56,267 I wish I hadn't lived it 2212 01:45:56,350 --> 01:45:58,602 because it caused me a lot of complications, 2213 01:45:58,686 --> 01:45:59,937 lots of problems. 2214 01:46:00,104 --> 01:46:03,357 I shared all my private issues to Marco. 2215 01:46:03,440 --> 01:46:04,483 Marco knows. 2216 01:46:04,608 --> 01:46:06,360 I had lots of problems. 2217 01:46:11,031 --> 01:46:14,577 We wish it hadn't been us 2218 01:46:14,743 --> 01:46:18,622 because we went through a lot together. 2219 01:46:18,831 --> 01:46:21,208 And a lot of mockery, 2220 01:46:21,292 --> 01:46:22,668 -Right? To this day. -Still to this day. 2221 01:46:22,751 --> 01:46:25,629 Today we can see this 2222 01:46:26,255 --> 01:46:28,048 from a different perspective. 2223 01:46:37,183 --> 01:46:39,768 May 8th, 1996. 2224 01:46:40,060 --> 01:46:43,105 With mounting pressure from media and witnesses, 2225 01:46:43,397 --> 01:46:47,026 the military base, ESA, holds a press conference. 2226 01:46:47,443 --> 01:46:49,653 General Lima addresses the crowd. 2227 01:46:49,737 --> 01:46:52,406 We have nothing to hide. 2228 01:46:53,616 --> 01:46:55,492 - Did it happen? - What were you guys 2229 01:46:55,576 --> 01:46:56,911 doing that day? 2230 01:46:58,329 --> 01:46:59,330 We were working 2231 01:46:59,872 --> 01:47:01,665 for the Army and the Nation. 2232 01:47:02,208 --> 01:47:04,293 Can you prove it? 2233 01:47:05,294 --> 01:47:06,378 Prove to whom? 2234 01:47:06,462 --> 01:47:07,838 To the press. 2235 01:47:08,505 --> 01:47:10,799 - Why? - Don't you want to prove 2236 01:47:10,883 --> 01:47:12,009 the facts? 2237 01:47:12,092 --> 01:47:13,260 I don't have to prove what I said. 2238 01:47:13,344 --> 01:47:14,970 I've already said everything I'm going to say. 2239 01:47:17,765 --> 01:47:19,683 They wanted to keep us quiet about this story. 2240 01:47:21,810 --> 01:47:23,896 That it wasn't an E.T., that it's crazy, 2241 01:47:23,979 --> 01:47:25,940 it was silly, or nothing. 2242 01:47:26,023 --> 01:47:27,858 Like there was no such thing. 2243 01:47:27,942 --> 01:47:30,736 That's why we don't bring up police, 2244 01:47:30,819 --> 01:47:32,613 ESA, anything like that. 2245 01:47:39,411 --> 01:47:42,081 Do you think I would be embarrassed 2246 01:47:42,164 --> 01:47:43,582 for 26 years? 2247 01:47:44,166 --> 01:47:45,793 People, family members 2248 01:47:46,168 --> 01:47:47,753 joking, making fun of me? 2249 01:47:48,712 --> 01:47:50,047 I would never do that. 2250 01:47:50,923 --> 01:47:52,341 What did I get out of this? Nothing. 2251 01:47:52,716 --> 01:47:54,260 I never made a dollar off of it. 2252 01:47:54,343 --> 01:47:56,845 There is no advantage to be gained. 2253 01:47:57,304 --> 01:47:59,098 If I say I made a cent, 2254 01:47:59,181 --> 01:48:00,224 I'd be lying. 2255 01:48:07,481 --> 01:48:09,191 Unfortunately, 2256 01:48:09,275 --> 01:48:10,859 I come from 2257 01:48:11,568 --> 01:48:12,861 an institution that 2258 01:48:13,696 --> 01:48:14,989 I cannot expose. 2259 01:48:17,324 --> 01:48:18,784 You now hold, 2260 01:48:19,243 --> 01:48:20,286 practically, 2261 01:48:20,786 --> 01:48:23,497 my peace in your hands. 2262 01:48:23,747 --> 01:48:25,165 Could I make a lot of money? 2263 01:48:25,249 --> 01:48:26,333 Yes. 2264 01:48:26,417 --> 01:48:27,793 I could write my story, 2265 01:48:29,086 --> 01:48:30,337 but 2266 01:48:30,421 --> 01:48:33,215 I met Marco and promised him that I 2267 01:48:33,299 --> 01:48:35,175 would give one last statement. 2268 01:48:35,676 --> 01:48:36,802 Okay? 2269 01:48:36,885 --> 01:48:38,012 And... 2270 01:48:38,095 --> 01:48:40,514 I thank you for giving me 2271 01:48:40,597 --> 01:48:42,099 this opportunity to speak. 2272 01:48:42,683 --> 01:48:45,519 May you continue researching. 2273 01:48:45,602 --> 01:48:48,731 Don't ever be discouraged. 2274 01:48:50,691 --> 01:48:52,568 Don't let this go. 2275 01:48:54,862 --> 01:48:57,281 The producers didn't let it go, 2276 01:48:57,364 --> 01:49:00,534 returning to Brazil multiple times since. 2277 01:49:01,327 --> 01:49:03,746 So there's a being right here, uh, 2278 01:49:04,413 --> 01:49:06,665 exposed to our environment. 2279 01:49:07,124 --> 01:49:09,835 After several minutes of interaction with the being, 2280 01:49:10,294 --> 01:49:13,797 in this exact ICU at Hospital Regional, 2281 01:49:14,381 --> 01:49:18,802 Dr. Italo told us the military burst in and took the being, 2282 01:49:19,303 --> 01:49:21,221 then threatened the hospital staff 2283 01:49:21,305 --> 01:49:22,639 to remain silent. 2284 01:49:23,015 --> 01:49:24,892 People are... "Wow!" 2285 01:49:25,476 --> 01:49:27,936 That's why we never talked about it. 2286 01:49:28,020 --> 01:49:29,730 That's why he's saying he should... 2287 01:49:31,857 --> 01:49:33,776 Explain the documentary... 2288 01:49:34,568 --> 01:49:37,905 Can you explain to the documentary that we have to do... 2289 01:49:38,781 --> 01:49:41,116 - I just wanna get... - Lots of politics. 2290 01:49:41,283 --> 01:49:42,284 Oh. 2291 01:49:44,620 --> 01:49:46,789 He sensed intelligence. 2292 01:49:47,289 --> 01:49:48,707 An-- An intelligence. 2293 01:49:49,124 --> 01:49:51,585 Intelligence? Much higher than mine. 2294 01:49:52,753 --> 01:49:55,422 A lot higher intelligence than his. 2295 01:49:55,881 --> 01:49:57,758 Although he needed us, 2296 01:49:57,841 --> 01:50:00,969 he had control of the room. 2297 01:50:02,262 --> 01:50:04,640 Ask him how it feels to be sharing this information 2298 01:50:04,723 --> 01:50:06,058 after 29 years. 2299 01:50:06,308 --> 01:50:09,353 How do you feel about sharing this information... 2300 01:50:09,436 --> 01:50:10,854 I feel like crying. 2301 01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:13,816 Feels like crying. 2302 01:50:17,236 --> 01:50:18,237 Excuse me. 2303 01:50:20,864 --> 01:50:22,074 It was a magnificent being. 2304 01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:24,618 It's different from us. 2305 01:50:24,701 --> 01:50:25,869 No evil intentions. 2306 01:50:27,121 --> 01:50:28,789 I felt zero evil intentions. 2307 01:50:29,957 --> 01:50:32,501 He saw zero malice on this being. 2308 01:50:33,669 --> 01:50:34,837 An angel. 2309 01:50:35,129 --> 01:50:36,296 An angel. 2310 01:50:36,713 --> 01:50:37,714 Oh. 2311 01:50:42,803 --> 01:50:43,971 An angel. 2312 01:50:44,388 --> 01:50:45,472 An angel. 2313 01:50:52,146 --> 01:50:53,480 - Uh... - Thanks. 2314 01:50:53,564 --> 01:50:55,107 I would not be coming back 2315 01:50:55,566 --> 01:50:57,651 for 15 years if I didn't believe it. 2316 01:50:58,485 --> 01:51:01,697 He wouldn't be coming back for 15 years 2317 01:51:01,780 --> 01:51:03,073 if he didn't believe it. 2318 01:51:03,657 --> 01:51:04,741 Clearly. 2319 01:51:09,455 --> 01:51:10,789 You can believe. 2320 01:51:11,540 --> 01:51:13,959 - You can believe. - You can believe it. 2321 01:51:14,042 --> 01:51:16,670 We have a lot to learn through the eyes of that being. 2322 01:51:18,046 --> 01:51:22,092 We have so much to learn in the eyes of this being. 2323 01:52:29,201 --> 01:52:30,327 Where's the proof? 2324 01:52:30,786 --> 01:52:32,829 We have alien spaceships in our possession. 2325 01:52:32,913 --> 01:52:34,206 - Mm-hmm. - We have bodies. 2326 01:52:34,289 --> 01:52:35,999 Where and why can't I get 2327 01:52:36,083 --> 01:52:38,168 -the specifics to verify those claims? -Okay... 2328 01:52:38,502 --> 01:52:40,546 If the President of the United States... 2329 01:52:41,255 --> 01:52:42,798 ...issued an executive order... 2330 01:52:43,549 --> 01:52:44,758 ...that... 2331 01:52:46,218 --> 01:52:50,347 ...absolves me of all of my TSSCI NDAs. 2332 01:52:51,181 --> 01:52:53,225 NDAs are non-disclosure agreements. 2333 01:52:53,308 --> 01:52:54,768 Those are the agreements we have to sign 2334 01:52:54,851 --> 01:52:58,564 for every compartment in our SCI clearances. 2335 01:52:59,189 --> 01:53:02,776 So, if the President waives 2336 01:53:02,943 --> 01:53:07,281 or absolves my obligation to those NDAs 2337 01:53:07,864 --> 01:53:10,576 and I get subpoenaed by Congress, some-- somebody on Capitol Hill, 2338 01:53:10,659 --> 01:53:13,036 some committee either in the Senate or the House or the both, 2339 01:53:13,787 --> 01:53:15,872 to reveal everything I know 2340 01:53:15,956 --> 01:53:18,000 that I learned from my investigations, 2341 01:53:18,083 --> 01:53:20,002 both unclassified and classified, 2342 01:53:20,085 --> 01:53:23,338 into the legacy UAP, crash retrieval 2343 01:53:23,422 --> 01:53:27,175 and hardware reverse engineering and NI-- NHI programs, 2344 01:53:27,342 --> 01:53:28,343 I would do so. 2345 01:53:28,427 --> 01:53:30,095 If I could be waived from that 2346 01:53:30,178 --> 01:53:31,346 or absolved in some fashion 2347 01:53:31,430 --> 01:53:32,889 by a presidential order 2348 01:53:33,056 --> 01:53:34,391 and if Congress subpoenas me, 2349 01:53:34,474 --> 01:53:36,143 yes, I would go and tell them everything I know. 2350 01:53:53,285 --> 01:53:55,662 Hello, I'm Vitório Pacaccini. 2351 01:53:56,371 --> 01:53:58,624 I am one of the leading investigators 2352 01:53:58,874 --> 01:54:01,918 of the Varginha incident since the very beginning. 2353 01:54:02,002 --> 01:54:05,464 I know and I saw with my own eyes 2354 01:54:05,547 --> 01:54:08,216 an alien creature kept in captivity 2355 01:54:08,300 --> 01:54:11,511 and there's... 35-second video. 2356 01:54:12,220 --> 01:54:15,098 It was right there, one of the alien creatures 2357 01:54:15,182 --> 01:54:19,728 with two militaries holding the creature by the shoulders. 2358 01:54:20,020 --> 01:54:25,233 The creature was really ill, was not feeling good at all. 2359 01:54:25,651 --> 01:54:29,071 They tried to give the creature some fruit and water. 2360 01:54:29,154 --> 01:54:30,405 It didn't accept. 2361 01:54:30,614 --> 01:54:35,077 And the reason why they filmed this creature 2362 01:54:35,619 --> 01:54:40,832 without superior authorization is because they were pretty mad 2363 01:54:40,916 --> 01:54:43,960 that the American militaries were coming to Brazil 2364 01:54:44,044 --> 01:54:45,671 to take all these materials, 2365 01:54:45,754 --> 01:54:48,548 not only the pictures, the footage, 2366 01:54:48,632 --> 01:54:52,135 but the creatures itself and the spacecraft, 2367 01:54:53,011 --> 01:54:54,721 as they took it to the United States. 2368 01:54:54,888 --> 01:54:58,517 So, some other military's, friend of mine, 2369 01:54:59,351 --> 01:55:02,604 had the chance, without authorization, 2370 01:55:02,854 --> 01:55:04,314 to make this movie. 2371 01:55:04,856 --> 01:55:07,067 And right now, I'm willing to put 2372 01:55:07,150 --> 01:55:09,986 my right hand tomorrow on a Bible 2373 01:55:10,112 --> 01:55:13,824 and take a live public lie detector test 2374 01:55:13,907 --> 01:55:16,910 that everything I'm telling you is the truth. 2375 01:55:37,222 --> 01:55:40,976 The accumulation of aspects, the girls who saw something, 2376 01:55:41,059 --> 01:55:43,103 the other people in the town who saw something, 2377 01:55:43,562 --> 01:55:45,731 this wasn't an isolated event where you got 2378 01:55:45,814 --> 01:55:48,108 one witness saying, "Oh, I saw something extraordinary." 2379 01:55:48,734 --> 01:55:50,235 Not at all. They seemed to be 2380 01:55:50,318 --> 01:55:52,320 relatively naive young girls... 2381 01:55:53,488 --> 01:55:55,866 ...and there were fire department people involved... 2382 01:55:57,075 --> 01:55:58,952 ...uh, who saw the beings too. 2383 01:55:59,327 --> 01:56:00,871 And one nice thing about it is 2384 01:56:00,954 --> 01:56:03,331 it-- it takes the ownness away from saying, 2385 01:56:03,415 --> 01:56:05,333 "Oh, things only happen in the United States." 2386 01:56:05,667 --> 01:56:07,711 Well, there was a United States involvement 2387 01:56:07,794 --> 01:56:09,379 and it wouldn't surprise me if they paid 2388 01:56:09,463 --> 01:56:11,006 to pick up the wreckage and, you know, 2389 01:56:11,089 --> 01:56:13,383 all the rest of the stuff. Why not? 2390 01:56:14,301 --> 01:56:16,428 Makes sense. Cheap way to get information. 2391 01:56:16,970 --> 01:56:18,764 Let the other guy do the work. 2392 01:56:19,222 --> 01:56:21,683 I am a Second Lieutenant 2393 01:56:21,767 --> 01:56:23,602 in the Brazilian Army Reserve, 2394 01:56:23,852 --> 01:56:25,520 and through my contacts, 2395 01:56:25,604 --> 01:56:28,482 the sergeant who worked with me at the time, 2396 01:56:28,815 --> 01:56:33,236 told me the boxes containing the entities 2397 01:56:33,570 --> 01:56:38,867 were taken to the Army Base in Campinas. 2398 01:56:39,034 --> 01:56:42,329 And from there went to Clinics Hospital in Unicamp, 2399 01:56:42,537 --> 01:56:46,333 where they secured the perimeter, 2400 01:56:46,833 --> 01:56:49,461 and began the examination with the team. 2401 01:56:49,544 --> 01:56:51,254 And then the Americans came 2402 01:56:51,338 --> 01:56:52,881 and took the 2403 01:56:53,298 --> 01:56:55,050 entities that were in the boxes 2404 01:56:55,133 --> 01:56:56,510 to the United States. 2405 01:57:17,030 --> 01:57:18,907 People ask why Varginha 2406 01:57:18,990 --> 01:57:21,117 wasn't treated like other cases. 2407 01:57:21,451 --> 01:57:24,079 Probably because it's the most important case 2408 01:57:24,162 --> 01:57:26,540 in which there was cooperation 2409 01:57:26,623 --> 01:57:28,124 between Brazil and the United States. 2410 01:57:28,625 --> 01:57:30,210 It's always going to be our word, 2411 01:57:30,293 --> 01:57:31,419 against everyone else's. 2412 01:57:31,545 --> 01:57:33,797 But there are still things to be uncovered. 2413 01:57:34,381 --> 01:57:35,674 A mystery that remains. 2414 01:58:16,464 --> 01:58:18,383 I believe that the Varginha case 2415 01:58:18,466 --> 01:58:21,428 is much more important today because it is more recent 2416 01:58:21,887 --> 01:58:24,639 and some of the events have not unfolded yet. 2417 01:58:24,973 --> 01:58:26,808 Did she have any connection with the eyes? 2418 01:58:26,892 --> 01:58:28,059 Did she make any-- 2419 01:58:28,143 --> 01:58:31,104 Like, feel as she saw eye to eye with-- 2420 01:58:31,187 --> 01:58:32,230 with-- with the being. 2421 01:58:32,355 --> 01:58:33,356 Mm-hmm. 2422 01:58:34,524 --> 01:58:36,610 "Take me out of here, I am suffering." 2423 01:58:38,403 --> 01:58:41,448 Me and Kátia wanted to stay, but Liliane didn't let us. 2424 01:58:42,449 --> 01:58:45,827 People joke about this but this is very serious. 2425 01:58:59,591 --> 01:59:01,760 Everything that happened to me 2426 01:59:01,843 --> 01:59:03,887 was because of what happened at Maiolini farm. 2427 01:59:04,095 --> 01:59:05,972 That's where 2428 01:59:06,056 --> 01:59:07,432 this whole story began, 2429 01:59:08,308 --> 01:59:10,018 that's where it all started, 2430 01:59:10,393 --> 01:59:11,686 at Maiolini farm. 2431 01:59:13,647 --> 01:59:17,317 Were there live aliens seen walking around this town? 2432 01:59:18,568 --> 01:59:19,945 Unfortunately, 2433 01:59:20,028 --> 01:59:21,988 I didn't see it, but I believe it. 2434 01:59:22,322 --> 01:59:23,323 Mm-hmm. 2435 01:59:24,157 --> 01:59:28,453 I have deal with this case in 1996 2436 01:59:28,745 --> 01:59:31,414 because I have some friends f-- from there. 2437 01:59:31,790 --> 01:59:33,208 He told that, "Oh, 2438 01:59:33,291 --> 01:59:35,710 you don't know what is true, 2439 01:59:35,794 --> 01:59:37,545 but I know what I saw." 2440 02:00:04,906 --> 02:00:07,075 The reason why they haven't made overt contact 2441 02:00:07,158 --> 02:00:08,493 is because we're so aggressive. 2442 02:00:14,416 --> 02:00:15,417 Come on. 2443 02:00:19,170 --> 02:00:22,132 Exactly, this is the question! 2444 02:00:22,966 --> 02:00:24,050 Why? 2445 02:00:24,134 --> 02:00:25,552 They don't make contact. 2446 02:00:25,635 --> 02:00:26,886 Why? 2447 02:00:29,973 --> 02:00:32,350 Would that smell make a good perfume? 2448 02:00:40,900 --> 02:00:43,403 Could that smell be a perfume? 2449 02:00:43,862 --> 02:00:44,863 Yes, it could. 2450 02:00:45,447 --> 02:00:47,073 If it were like this... 165912

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