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Richard Hatch, congratulations.
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You clean up nice. You look a
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lot different than the guy we saw on the
island. Are you a lot different than
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the guy we got to know on the island?
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I'm not sure who you think I was on the
island, to tell you the truth. But I
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don't think I'm much different than that
person.
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We saw one poll that said, of the final
four, who would you least like to see
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win? And your total was equal to that of
the other three.
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Does that make this a bittersweet
victory?
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Not for me. I think the press made more
out of my kind of being evil than
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people. The mail I'm getting is really
supportive. People are positive and say,
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go get them, and we wanted you.
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So I think it might be just the press.
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Kelly, close but no cigar.
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How often do you think about what could
have been?
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Every day.
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So much for it only hurts for a little
while. It was hard not to notice at the
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end of the program that you didn't have
a hug or a handshake for Sue.
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Still hurt?
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I'm over it.
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You're over it? Yeah, life goes on. It
was a mean game.
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A lot of mean things. And you found out
how mean it was. I'm over it.
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Oh, yeah. I told her to stop.
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This is true that God was all about the
kids.
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The game was over with. She may hit you
before the hour is over. You never know.
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You never know. Good evening and
welcome.
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I'm Brian Gumbel. These are the 16
castaways that we've gotten to know over
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last 13 weeks.
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Tonight marks the very first time
they've gathered together off that
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the South China Sea.
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So consider the next hour a new tribal
council, one loaded with fun and
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consisting of a much larger tribe. For
an addition to the castaways, we have
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assembled an audience of family,
friends, and fans.
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And tonight, we'll hear from them and
from you through exclusive scientific
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polling being conducted right now while
we're on the air. Tonight, there are no
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alliances, no immunity, no rule, no deep
thoughts about survivors' cosmic
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relevance or what it all meant.
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Only the stories the castaways haven't
been able to tell.
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questions they haven't been able to
answer, and issues they haven't been
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resolve until tonight.
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We think you want to hear what they have
to say to each other and to you, and
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you will right after this.
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As we begin tonight, I think we can
assume now that everyone is familiar
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Susan Hawke, Rudy Bosch, Kelly
Wigglesworth, and Richard Hatch, all of
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it to the final four. But since our
other castaways spent less time before
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cameras, some introductions might be in
order. You might recall that Sonia
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Christopher and her ukulele were the
first to leave the island.
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Followed in order by Bebe Anderson,
attorney Stacy Stillman.
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biochemist Ramona Gray, our Bible
-toting proud virgin Dirk Bean,
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the free -spirited Joel Klug, and
Gretchen Cordy.
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And then there are those castaways who
may be more familiar to many of us. They
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stayed on the island longer and played a
critical role at the jury. Greg Bulis,
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poking his own man.
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Jenna Lewis,
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Jervis Never Nervous Peterson, America's
sweetheart Colleen Haskell.
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The alphabetically inclined Sean
Pinnick.
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Thanks, bud. That's all right. You said
it was the least objectionable. Is that
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really what it came down to?
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I felt that he deserved it. You know, he
was a great, he organized and
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engineered the alliance. He's Darth
Gaidar. That's what we've been calling
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I think he did a fantastic job. He's the
puppeteer of the whole alliance that
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you see sitting on the couch before you.
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Colleen admitted that she changed her
vote.
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Did any of the other, any of the rest of
you, were you swayed by anything you
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heard that night?
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The numbers.
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Was that the number deal?
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Did he get it right? Was the number
seven?
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No, it was number nine.
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It was close.
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Everybody takes seven. So if Kelly would
have said nine, she'd be 900 grand
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richer.
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Who knew?
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Who knew?
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Susan.
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You proud of that speech?
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Yeah, I was pissed at the time.
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Yeah, I never regret what I say.
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But, yeah,
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it's over with.
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At the time, it worked for me, Brian.
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No, that's okay. Yeah, it's cool. I'm
just wondering what happened because
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you got voted off, you were all smiles.
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And you were like, you know what? That's
good. I want it to be in the final
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four. And I did.
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Got it right there. And then you came
back like an hour and a half later. It's
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like zing, pow, bang.
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Well, yeah, when it ended up being Kelly
and Rich.
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Long time, early on in the game, me and
Kelly were, I told Kelly, let's stomp
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him. I wanted to beat him. Just beat
Rich.
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I didn't want the million dollars
because you get a million bucks and you
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lot of leeches that come out from
underneath.
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If I'm going to make a million bucks,
I'd rather work for it.
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And I'm not.
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Real nice, like Kelly, nice. You know, I
talk to people and play to people, but
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I don't go out of my way to, you know,
kiss their backside. So I thought, oh,
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the two of us, and then we get down to
the end and we can burn rich.
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It would have probably worked.
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Yeah, but then we had the tip, you know,
and then Kelly was, like, doing that
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lopsided thing.
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And then it was like, okay, Kelly,
you're not in the alliance. You're in
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alliance. Okay, you tell them you're not
in the alliance.
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You are.
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Don't lie to me and tell me that you
told him, you know.
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But didn't you think the speech was a
little harsh?
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It might have been, but hey, that's the
way I am.
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I can take it. If you want to give me
one, have at me, because I do. No, I'm
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going to pick a fight with you.
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I don't recommend it, probably.
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No, I know it's the same way.
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Kel, in retrospect, do you think about,
hey, I should have gone at it with
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Rudy?
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instead of Rich?
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No, what I had originally thought when
the vote, when we voted for these two, I
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thought, okay, you know, I'm going to
stick my vote again. I'll stick with
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and it'll be a tie and then they can
fight it out and have a tie. And then
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whoever is there is there.
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And that was my initial thought was to
do that. And I probably should have
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with that because I knew.
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I knew Sue was going to be bitter. I
knew she was, and I told Rich all that
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night. You haven't second -guessed
yourself.
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I mean, you had the chance to go head
-to -head with Rich or with Rudy. And I
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was going to keep my vote for Rich and,
you know, the vote for Sue, and then
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they could decide the tiebreaker between
the two of them, and then, you know,
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nobody would have voted them off because
that is what would have happened.
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Right. But she told me she wasn't going
to let me get down to the three, and so
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I couldn't let her. She did. On the
final day, she talked.
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quite a bit about anticipating and
trying to think about what it was going
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like when asked questions or talked to
by people.
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And she knew something was coming,
honey.
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Oh, yeah, we all knew something was
coming.
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This place reacted like a Super Bowl
during that speech, I'm telling you.
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what were you thinking when you let the
poll go?
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I, uh, I must have fell asleep or
something.
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I mean, you know...
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Poor Marge. I mean, she's sitting up
there.
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I'm a sposh.
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When you got home, did she turn to you
and go, Rudy?
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Not her, the kids.
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My kids are probably all... All three
girls turned and said... Yeah.
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I think they're all sitting at Jillian's
tonight and... I don't know what.
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Probably under the table.
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You know that last tribal council?
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You sat there saying, I need oxygen,
right? I need air.
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Somebody talk to me. I mean, was that at
once the best and worst part of being
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on the island of tribal councils?
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The last council when we were sitting
and waiting for the votes and stuff? But
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throughout. I mean, when anybody got a
little skewed, it was probably the best
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moment of his life, you know? For the
rest of us, I think that in the jury
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it was kind of a downer. No doubt about
it. He's the only one that doesn't know
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what it's like to be older. Yeah, it
sucks. But, for example, I know that,
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example, Colleen and Jervis told me
before that they expected it when they
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it. But I also know that Ramona and
Dirk, you guys said you were shocked,
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you were stunned.
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And Joel.
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Yeah, it's like when it comes out of
left field, I mean, this is like my
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you know, and then it comes out of left
field and you get the boot.
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And it's just like, whoa, you know.
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And then Gretchen. Oh, man. That's hard.
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Jenna.
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Jenna was crying. The reason Joel won,
he was a male chauvinist.
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Come on, now. He is not. Come on. It was
the cow. He said the cow thing, man.
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This dude said the cow thing. I just
stood there and said, hey, whatever,
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am not a chauvinist.
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Anything you're showing is fake. Okay,
Jerb, how about that?
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Come on, throw it out there, man. The
truth is this. I said the comment that
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Joel lives and breathes it.
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Tonya and Bebe, you were the first ones
to get bounced.
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You went a lot farther than any of us.
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But was there any embarrassment
attendant to that?
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So much anticipation, and as soon as you
get there, you're out of there?
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You know, when you're on the island, it
doesn't seem, I mean, it happened for a
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reason, and it was just my tribe there
and Jeff, and it was okay. But then you
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come back home, and 40 million people
are watching you get voted off. It's
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of humiliating. But it gave you a bigger
platform.
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Right? Bibi, did it feel that awful?
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You know, when I helped engineer my own
demise, I felt pretty stupid later on.
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Probably one of the worst decisions I've
ever made.
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I regretted it. But, you know, that's
the way the game is. You make an
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decision and you regret it.
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Let me close out this segment with a
question to you, Rudy.
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Throughout the week, We heard some of
your comments about homosexuals. Didn't
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like them in a homosexual way.
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Queers, etc., etc.
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And yet in the final analysis, you wound
up voting for a gay guy who you
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believed in and who you trusted.
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I'm curious if the experience on the
island changed any of your
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about the sexual orientation of
individuals.
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Nah.
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He set up an alliance, and I gave him my
word, and my word is good.
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The reason I called him queer...
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The reason I called him
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queer is so all my good SEAL Team
buddies will know what I'm talking
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When we come back, I'll get to it when
we come back. When we come back, more
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from the Castaways. And later, we'll
hear what you have to say as we get the
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results of a special poll that we're
conducting tonight.
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All that and a few surprises, too, when
Survivor the Reunion returns right after
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this.
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These giant insects.
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And I forced myself to live off of the
dirty bath water and whatever hair
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I could collect from the tree.
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Thank you, Brian.
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Thank you very much. Thank you. I didn't
like that. I didn't pick them, Sean.
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Was that talent or what?
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See? How could you ignore talent like
that? And they selected you. I know.
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Unbelievable.
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Unbelievable. And they selected you.
It's their own fault.
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Absolutely. Man, you know what? Hey,
Rudy, is this true what I hear, that you
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applied actually to be on Survivor 2?
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Yeah. You wanted to do it again?
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Until he wins.
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I'm going to keep trying until I win.
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You know, go ahead.
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Rudy, Rudy, comment.
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I mean, he comes from a different
generation, but he is a kind and gentle
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honest and amazing man who I feel really
close to. We have a great relationship.
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Not that close.
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And the comments you hear are good
-hearted.
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The words that you hear often sound as
if they're...
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un -PC, if you will. But that's not
what's in his heart. He also gave, we
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note, he's too shy and too modest to
admit it, he's a legitimate hero who
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45 years of service to his country.
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And Rudy, I was reading about some of
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your adventures.
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Is this true that you and four other
guys spent 18 months... on a
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ship in Hong Kong after the war?
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Nine months. Nine months.
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Was that harder than this?
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Yeah.
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Was the company better?
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I was there with a guy named John
Kennedy.
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And when Kennedy made president, I
checked.
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Because if it was the same guy, I would
have been the vice president.
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Correct from way back. We can assume it
wasn't. You know, speaking of the
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physical rigors there, Ramona, talk to
me about the smell on the island. The
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reason I ask is because Ramona described
it as the smell of what? Hot garbage?
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I mean, we were all funky.
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And after about three or four days, You
know, we were sweating, we were working,
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we were tracing through the jungle.
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We just all stank. And so, yeah, it was
hot garbage.
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It was disgusting.
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Gretchen, how long did it take to get
over the self -consciousness of the way
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you smelled?
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A couple of days. You know what?
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We all smelled bad. I don't remember it.
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I honestly didn't. I mean, we were
swimming all the time, so I don't... We
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stank. Right. I don't recollect any odor
either.
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I don't recollect ever. Besides Sean's
odor. Yeah.
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Greg was pretty smelly. We weren't
eating junk food, so nobody stunk. So
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stunk. There wasn't any hot garbage. Not
in our camp.
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Let's take a question from the audience.
We've got a young lady up here who's
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anxious to ask something. Yeah. This
question is for everybody. I was just
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curious as to what was the first thing
that you ate once you got off the
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and if any of you are ever going to eat
rice again.
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Love rice.
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Nice.
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Can't get enough rice.
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Actually, the first thing I had was, uh,
I had shrimp.
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I had a peanut butter and jelly
sandwich. Jenna, blow for me. Sean, did
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pizza? It was all about pizza for me.
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Derv and I hit Pizza Hut in Kodakin,
Alabama. Who lost the most weight on the
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island? How much? Are you kidding?
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How much? Uh, maybe 34 pounds, I think.
And I lost 100 before I got there.
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Wow.
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Wow. Oh, man.
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I needed it.
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It's a nice look, Rich.
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Thank you.
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Who gained all their weight back
already?
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Let me talk a little bit about what some
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of you think is a dirty word.
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A lion.
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I know.
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Dirty word, Kelly? Why'd you feel so bad
about it?
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Because it, I don't know, it made the
game not fun anymore.
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It was just sort of like, okay, stand up
in line and leave whenever everybody
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decides for you to.
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Yeah.
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Because we're over here. Well, you know.
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No, for real, though. I look back at the
first show, and it's like, man, that
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was fun. We're jumping off the boat.
We're working as a team. It's all
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And then you get to, like, the last of
the shows, you know, and you're just
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like, ugh, you know, like, just battle.
And, yeah, it was just, man.
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Joel, I read you said something very
interesting. You said that the Gen Xers
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your tribe weren't really into toggy
-like.
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What does gender have to do with it?
It's age group, I think. I think we're
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younger. We kind of were hanging out,
and we went there for a situation that
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a little bit different, I think, maybe,
than theirs.
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Right away when they got there, they
were very corporate, very structured.
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And if you look at our younger
generation, we're just all kind of doing
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thing. We don't want to follow a certain
path, and that's how we're kind of
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doing things, and that's what we did.
There's nothing wrong with that. Phoebe
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was happy about that.
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Matthew,
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you're sitting there disagreeing. Why?
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No, I disagree. I think, you know,
you're either the type of person who
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sucked in emotionally or you're the type
of person who can separate yourself.
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And Rich and I even talked about this.
And he, going into it, thought, I'm not
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getting emotionally involved. And
perhaps that's why he didn't do well
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was asked about everybody's families and
what they were wearing and stuff,
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because he was able to separate himself.
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I can meet someone for five minutes and
not be able to emotionally separate
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myself from them. But it was still a
game, though.
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I think the alliance was appropriate.
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You thought it was fair?
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Absolutely. I suspected that if the
Pagong tribe didn't establish some kind
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alliance, they'd be dead, and I felt
that, and I think I mentioned it to
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Gretchen early on.
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But on the other hand, B .B., you said
you could never lie about it. Well,
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that's all part of it. No, but I think
you can belong to the alliance and not
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lie about it. I think if someone asks
you if you belong to the alliance, you
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say, sure, so what?
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Yeah, they went a step farther than we
were going to do. We were going to have
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our team hold together, but he just went
a step farther. He was a little
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smarter. I didn't think we had a nicer
team. You know who I lied to?
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I lied to Jeff Probe, the host.
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That's who I lied to. Oh, so did Susan.
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Yeah. He was.
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Susan, you were a bad liar, too. A
terrible liar. Oh, it was awful.
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I mean, you looked right at him and
went, oh, I lied to him. You looked
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him and went, no.
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No.
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It was bad. It was bad.
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So I was glad to have that.
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Listen, I needed the alliance to stay
alive. We have another question up here.
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Yes, young lady.
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This question is for the whole group.
How do you feel now that you've seen the
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show on television?
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Love the show. Great show.
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A lot of what you see out there is very
manufactured.
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I mean, while my lightheartedness and...
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whatever you want to say about my
intellect, you know, is a close
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of the real thing.
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Everyone here, including myself, is a
lot deeper character than anything that
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you saw on television. Does anyone think
they were depicted in a fashion that
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was either unfair or inaccurate?
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Not myself, but I think Greg was.
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Oh, I would agree with that. Yeah. He's
very intelligent and, you know, he's not
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like a goofball on a coconut.
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Sean is actually very intelligent.
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Sean is not goofy.
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Thank you very much. You know, he said
the show is manufactured. I don't want
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people to get the wrong idea because I
think they really did a good job at
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depicting the sequence and the process
pretty accurately.
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I mean, CBS.
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Mark Burnett and Craig Belligian. Those
people put together a program. You got
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the million, Rich. You don't need to do
this.
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Amazing. You got the million.
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Coming up, we're going to talk about
romance on the island, what did and
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didn't happen. And Jeff Probst joins us
from Australia with the first look at
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what lies in store for the next Survivor
cast list. That's right after this.
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But in my years growing up on a
Wisconsin dairy farm, I've learned many
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different survival techniques.
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For instance, hunting for firewood.
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Firewood down on the ground!
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That was good!
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That was good!
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That's the first time I've seen that
since I made it.
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My mom was so disappointed with that
film. She didn't like it so much. It's
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only thing she wouldn't copy.
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The whole thing. Huh?
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After that, they put you on the island.
Yeah, well, I mean, I'm good with a
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shotgun. Imagine what the people who are
applying for the second one are
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thinking. They've seen yours. They've
seen Sean's. I mean, my goodness.
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We're going to have some fruitcake.
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Let's go back for another question. Yes,
ma 'am.
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Yes, my question is for Colleen and
Greg.
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Was there a budding romance going on
between you two while you were on the
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island? And is there something going on
now?
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Ooh.
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A two -part question.
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I've talked about it enough, so I'm
going to pass the buck.
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Well.
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Actually, I want it back.
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Nothing happened.
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Nothing happened. I was covering for
another relationship going on.
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That's all I'm going to say. That's all
I'm going to say.
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Okay. Pick a number.
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How would you characterize the
relationship on the island with Colleen?
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Colleen? Yeah.
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It was excellent. We had a great time
together, and it wouldn't have been the
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same at all. We both played really well
together and inspired each other to have
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a great time.
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Well, whose idea was it to tease the
audience and leave everyone thinking
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that maybe something happened?
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We were there to make a TV show. I mean,
we were there. Is that what they said
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was your idea?
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Sex and violence.
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They won it. They got it.
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So it was your idea.
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I wouldn't say it was either person's
idea. We just had fun. It was all a
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I mean, when people ask you questions,
you know what they want, so give them
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answer. It's more interesting. What
about the second part of the lady's
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question? What about since the island?
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No. Are you going to tell the truth this
time?
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I live in Miami. He lives in Colorado.
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So what?
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They don't have planes?
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Do you know what you're telling us?
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I mean, I'm 23.
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Did I miss something? She's trying to
say no, there isn't.
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I mean, you know, young, have fun, see
lots of people. Yeah.
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a lot of people who thought strange
things they thought sean jenna see now
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did have sex okay i
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mean really i do think we should talk a
little bit about um
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joel and jervis
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Now, wait a second, though. I did read
that Richard said that on the day
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Colleen was complaining about him
walking around buck naked. Absolutely.
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Colleen and Jervis and Greg had been
sitting around the fire naked.
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Lying around on top of each other.
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True?
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Yeah. Sounds close.
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Sounds close?
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Clothing? Sounds clothing? Other
languages.
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It's raining, you're drying off, but I'm
not going to play that game like, you
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were naked too.
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You know what I mean? Oh!
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Oh!
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You were naked?
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I mean, yeah, I was.
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You're not like that, though.
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What was the deal there, Richard?
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Nudity is just something I'm comfortable
with. I mean, and it's a deserted
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island, 110 degrees in the middle of the
South.
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Deserted?
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A few people on the camera crew, and
I've got to say hey, Chris.
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I forgot to say hi to my son.
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It didn't bother you that it might have
offended some folks?
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When it did offend some people, I
immediately put my clothes back on. It
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birthday. I'd intended to spend the
entire day nude.
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Yeah, absolutely. It was your birthday
and we intended to kick you off the
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island. Absolutely, they tried.
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But my intention isn't to offend. It was
just to be comfortable. And actually,
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the Taghi team had plenty of time to get
used to that.
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And once we combined, it changed a
little bit. So I had no trouble putting
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clothing on most of the time. Being from
Taghi, I would think that you'd be more
437
00:26:28,350 --> 00:26:32,050
in the alliance thing. And I think that
was everybody's problem was that you
438
00:26:32,050 --> 00:26:34,490
were alone and naked. Like naked.
439
00:26:35,110 --> 00:26:37,610
Where Jervis and I were purely trying
to...
440
00:26:38,010 --> 00:26:41,390
Come to the bottom of an age -old myth,
and Colleen was right.
441
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:48,890
We work together.
442
00:26:49,130 --> 00:26:50,670
There are a couple people making it.
443
00:26:51,170 --> 00:26:53,010
Let's get another question.
444
00:26:53,330 --> 00:26:54,890
Yeah. What's your question?
445
00:26:55,430 --> 00:26:58,050
So what was it like eating the bugs, the
live worms?
446
00:26:58,270 --> 00:26:59,830
Jervis should answer that. Jervis.
447
00:27:00,170 --> 00:27:02,250
Jervis. Jervis. Jervis.
448
00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:03,630
Jervis.
449
00:27:04,010 --> 00:27:06,970
Jervis. Everybody just said, why not
show my poker face?
450
00:27:07,630 --> 00:27:08,630
That was my poker face.
451
00:27:08,990 --> 00:27:11,430
That was your poker face? Oh, yeah. I
want to play with you.
452
00:27:12,670 --> 00:27:17,210
That was the worst thing I've ever done
in my life. What, Stacey got it done?
453
00:27:17,430 --> 00:27:20,210
I didn't think it was that bad. Yeah,
look what happened to her, though. They
454
00:27:20,210 --> 00:27:21,210
put her off.
455
00:27:21,370 --> 00:27:22,370
Yeah.
456
00:27:24,030 --> 00:27:27,590
Jervis, you had a real hard time with
it. And the minute Stacey got her two
457
00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:31,130
down, you wasted no time in ejecting.
Oh, yeah, I spit them out.
458
00:27:31,370 --> 00:27:32,370
Yeah.
459
00:27:32,650 --> 00:27:36,250
The idea was to take them, throw them in
my mouth, chew two times, and swallow.
460
00:27:36,830 --> 00:27:38,910
When I went to swallow them, they
crawled across my mouth.
461
00:27:41,370 --> 00:27:44,530
Stacey, what was your take on it? How
did you devour them?
462
00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:46,450
You know, I just really wanted to kick
his butt.
463
00:27:47,830 --> 00:27:51,230
And I knew I was in a precarious
position in my group, and I knew that
464
00:27:51,230 --> 00:27:53,770
that for them might save me a little
longer.
465
00:27:55,530 --> 00:27:58,930
We've already had the handshake here
between Susan and Kelly.
466
00:27:59,370 --> 00:28:04,170
Let me bring back some other infamous
pairings, can we say?
467
00:28:05,070 --> 00:28:06,070
Stacey and Rudy.
468
00:28:06,830 --> 00:28:08,150
Sitting next to each other.
469
00:28:09,070 --> 00:28:11,450
Yeah, Rudy and I are great friends now,
actually.
470
00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:13,130
You know, we talked about this today.
471
00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:16,190
I got a T -shirt on that says, Rudy
loves Stacy.
472
00:28:18,350 --> 00:28:25,230
Another good pairing didn't get along
473
00:28:25,230 --> 00:28:27,130
real well. Joel and Bebe.
474
00:28:28,110 --> 00:28:29,110
Ooh, Bebe?
475
00:28:29,170 --> 00:28:31,030
No. We love each other.
476
00:28:31,230 --> 00:28:35,910
Oh, buddy. You didn't show it. Now you
do. You know what I think is? I think
477
00:28:35,910 --> 00:28:39,820
that... You know, what, 150 years from
now, I'll be just like Phoebe.
478
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,360
Oh!
479
00:28:43,780 --> 00:28:48,620
I can't even comment on that. You're so
young, you'll never make it.
480
00:28:50,220 --> 00:28:55,260
I know that you rationalized washing
your clothes in the water. Sure.
481
00:28:55,580 --> 00:28:57,180
But what if Joel had done that?
482
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,620
How would you have reacted?
483
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,120
I think he did, only I think he went
over to the water hole.
484
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,160
But, you know, we all wash our clothes
in our drinking water, if you stop and
485
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,160
think about it.
486
00:29:07,180 --> 00:29:09,920
You know, don't you drink the water?
487
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,500
In the drinking water?
488
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,300
I mean, before you drink.
489
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:20,660
We have a lot of drinking water. I'm not
going to win this argument. No, you're
490
00:29:20,660 --> 00:29:21,660
not,
491
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:22,559
but that's okay.
492
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,220
We'll go to another question. Yes, sir.
493
00:29:24,540 --> 00:29:27,560
Good evening. While you were on the
island, you were with a lot of crew
494
00:29:27,700 --> 00:29:29,280
What was that like, not having any
privacy?
495
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,820
And what were you like not having any
privacy? That's what I was trying to get
496
00:29:32,820 --> 00:29:37,120
to. It wasn't a plug. If you picture
what you saw us doing, imagine the
497
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:42,620
behind the scenes, the cameramen and
women, the sound people in the
498
00:29:42,620 --> 00:29:47,400
rains all 24 hours a day following us
around. They were absolutely, utterly
499
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,400
amazing.
500
00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:49,500
Unbelievable.
501
00:29:49,980 --> 00:29:56,980
Did you not have any privacy or did
502
00:29:56,980 --> 00:29:58,260
you just at some point?
503
00:29:58,670 --> 00:30:00,710
just start to look at them as, like,
plants?
504
00:30:01,370 --> 00:30:02,370
They were like trees.
505
00:30:02,570 --> 00:30:03,950
They were everywhere.
506
00:30:04,390 --> 00:30:07,030
I mean, one time, actually, Pagan snuck
away to the mobile case.
507
00:30:07,390 --> 00:30:09,330
But they found us, like, three minutes.
508
00:30:10,010 --> 00:30:14,010
We thought we had him. We thought we
totally fooled him. They'd still find
509
00:30:14,430 --> 00:30:19,730
Even though we knew that they were
videotaping us 24 -7, I was confident
510
00:30:19,730 --> 00:30:23,150
took Mark, the executive director's
word, that he wasn't going to show
511
00:30:23,290 --> 00:30:24,970
you know, us going to the bathroom.
512
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,820
or maybe naked if we didn't want to.
513
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,440
Nothing embarrassing then. I mean,
because his vision was going to be that
514
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,020
was a family show. So I felt confident.
The only embarrassing thing they show is
515
00:30:37,020 --> 00:30:38,560
that little dance Rich did on the beach.
516
00:30:40,260 --> 00:30:41,260
What was that?
517
00:30:41,980 --> 00:30:45,980
I have no idea. I don't even remember
doing it until I saw it. It was a
518
00:30:45,980 --> 00:30:46,980
fresh and fruity dance.
519
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,760
I mean, we've got the tape again. I
mean, check this dance out. What do we
520
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:53,760
that?
521
00:30:56,810 --> 00:30:58,010
I have no idea.
522
00:30:59,410 --> 00:31:00,410
Automatic reaction.
523
00:31:00,530 --> 00:31:03,710
Hey, you know what? It was natural. It
was real. It was inspiring.
524
00:31:05,410 --> 00:31:06,950
Let's go to another question. Yes, ma
'am.
525
00:31:07,230 --> 00:31:08,630
My question is for Jenna.
526
00:31:09,050 --> 00:31:12,170
Jenna, one of the saddest moments on the
show is when you didn't get your
527
00:31:12,170 --> 00:31:15,390
videotape. Do you regret leaving your
daughters behind for 39 days?
528
00:31:15,630 --> 00:31:17,930
No, I don't. I regret my mom not getting
the tape.
529
00:31:19,290 --> 00:31:22,090
I made the conscious decision to leave
them.
530
00:31:23,050 --> 00:31:24,890
I was just sad because I didn't get my
video.
531
00:31:25,710 --> 00:31:29,930
Everybody had to leave behind loved
ones. I left my two little daughters who
532
00:31:29,930 --> 00:31:34,630
were sitting right over there. But they
came out unscarred from it, and they had
533
00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:36,110
a great time with Nana in the process.
534
00:31:37,990 --> 00:31:42,130
Before we leave this section, which we
kind of called Friends and Enemies,
535
00:31:42,210 --> 00:31:45,610
I'm going to end with you again because
I'm familiar with some tough comments
536
00:31:45,610 --> 00:31:47,510
you had about these folks.
537
00:31:47,890 --> 00:31:49,490
Don't call me. I won't call you.
538
00:31:49,810 --> 00:31:51,650
These are not people I'd pick as
friends.
539
00:31:52,620 --> 00:31:53,620
Change your mind?
540
00:31:54,580 --> 00:31:56,020
Not really.
541
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:05,920
And he means that in a really kind way.
I know.
542
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,760
It's just odd.
543
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,740
You know, I hang around with military
guys that don't swear and all that
544
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,100
The problem is you can't get rid of it.
545
00:32:16,420 --> 00:32:17,620
That's right.
546
00:32:17,820 --> 00:32:20,820
We'll always be hounding you now. Come
to your house for Christmas. Yep.
547
00:32:21,790 --> 00:32:22,790
I wouldn't doubt that.
548
00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:27,790
Hey, look, while we've been on the air,
we've been conducting a scientific poll
549
00:32:27,790 --> 00:32:31,770
to find out what you and other viewers
think about who won and who didn't. The
550
00:32:31,770 --> 00:32:34,290
first results are in. We're going to
check them out when we come back.
551
00:32:34,770 --> 00:32:35,130
The
552
00:32:35,130 --> 00:32:48,610
Mariana
553
00:32:48,610 --> 00:32:50,350
Meek, born on a farm.
554
00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:52,460
Well, could do no harm.
555
00:32:52,660 --> 00:32:55,220
But honestly, don't I have a little
charm?
556
00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,780
Oh, my God!
557
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,380
What the hell was that?
558
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,400
Oh, my God!
559
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:06,800
Who was that?
560
00:33:08,460 --> 00:33:10,700
Were there any other lines to the poem
that we missed?
561
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,140
What's that? Were there any other lines
to that poem that we missed?
562
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,220
Yeah, that was just a little bit of me.
563
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,180
We like the hairdo then, too.
564
00:33:19,770 --> 00:33:21,870
It was pretty interesting. Oh, you liked
that? Yeah, it was interesting.
565
00:33:22,130 --> 00:33:23,129
Hey, look.
566
00:33:23,130 --> 00:33:24,130
We,
567
00:33:24,670 --> 00:33:29,330
as noted, we ran a couple of poll
questions this evening, and so we're
568
00:33:29,330 --> 00:33:36,310
share the results with some folks of the
25 -plus million who watched you on
569
00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:39,410
a somewhat regular basis. Let's go to
the first question. Did the right person
570
00:33:39,410 --> 00:33:40,410
win tonight?
571
00:33:41,010 --> 00:33:43,670
Only 31 % said yes.
572
00:33:43,930 --> 00:33:44,930
Did I do that?
573
00:33:44,970 --> 00:33:46,710
It doesn't cost you anything. Yeah, I
know.
574
00:33:49,580 --> 00:33:50,580
Second question.
575
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,300
Who would you have voted for?
576
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,040
45 % went for Rudy.
577
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,220
42 % went to Kelly.
578
00:34:03,660 --> 00:34:06,340
Richard, 11%. Susan, 2%. Cool.
579
00:34:07,660 --> 00:34:09,679
Did the winner play fair?
580
00:34:10,219 --> 00:34:13,860
How are you guessing this one broke
down, Richard? Oh, no idea.
581
00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:18,080
No idea. I imagine people think I
didn't, but I truly believe.
582
00:34:19,509 --> 00:34:22,750
I played as fair and ethically as I
could have. Let's take a look at the
583
00:34:22,750 --> 00:34:23,649
numbers.
584
00:34:23,650 --> 00:34:26,170
61 % think you played fair.
585
00:34:26,690 --> 00:34:27,690
Awesome.
586
00:34:31,690 --> 00:34:34,810
And lastly, this goes back to the
question we were talking about about
587
00:34:34,810 --> 00:34:38,170
and why some people felt skittish about
it. The question was, for the $1
588
00:34:38,170 --> 00:34:43,270
million, would you do what the winner
did to win?
589
00:34:44,269 --> 00:34:45,269
And almost half.
590
00:34:45,489 --> 00:34:46,208
That's amazing.
591
00:34:46,210 --> 00:34:47,210
Walk around naked.
592
00:34:48,389 --> 00:34:50,150
If that's what was required.
593
00:34:50,929 --> 00:34:54,570
I think that if you'd asked those
people, and you'd say, if I guaranteed
594
00:34:54,570 --> 00:34:58,610
million, that you'd have about 95 % of
them would do exactly what Richard did.
595
00:34:58,770 --> 00:35:01,450
Well, you know what? We've got to hand
it to Rich. I mean, up front, he said,
596
00:35:01,610 --> 00:35:02,750
I'm going to win the million.
597
00:35:03,090 --> 00:35:10,090
You were certain of it. I played cocky
in my interview tape and in walking into
598
00:35:10,090 --> 00:35:12,310
CBS's interview. I said, what are you
waiting for? I know you're going to pick
599
00:35:12,310 --> 00:35:15,070
me. What you don't know is I'm going to
win the million. And what you need to
600
00:35:15,070 --> 00:35:17,030
know for next year is I'm going to host
the next show.
601
00:35:17,410 --> 00:35:23,010
So I just played cocky. And they picked
me. And I'm not hosting the next show.
602
00:35:24,150 --> 00:35:31,130
And yet the woman to your right is the
only castaway that never got one single
603
00:35:31,130 --> 00:35:32,069
ouster vote.
604
00:35:32,070 --> 00:35:32,948
Not one.
605
00:35:32,950 --> 00:35:34,410
Not one.
606
00:35:42,060 --> 00:35:44,040
Let me talk about fame a little bit.
607
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:52,040
For how many of you has this show
changed your career path, your
608
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,520
Sean? All of us. All of us.
609
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,720
For what you want to do with your life?
610
00:36:00,540 --> 00:36:02,880
I'm pretty happy. I wouldn't want to
live it over.
611
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,700
You know, I might not be as lucky as I
am now. I'm pretty happy.
612
00:36:08,090 --> 00:36:11,510
Mm -hmm. Change the future? I wouldn't
want anything any different. I think all
613
00:36:11,510 --> 00:36:14,990
of us are just, everything's changed a
little bit in how, what the success we
614
00:36:14,990 --> 00:36:17,890
can get out of life and any aspect that
we choose, that it just helps us a
615
00:36:17,890 --> 00:36:18,890
little bit.
616
00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:22,650
But you're moving to L .A. to look for
some opportunities, yeah?
617
00:36:22,930 --> 00:36:24,370
Yeah, I didn't mention that. I was in L
.A.
618
00:36:24,570 --> 00:36:28,570
I mean, Jenna moved out to the coast to
take advantage of some opportunities,
619
00:36:28,750 --> 00:36:30,990
correct? No, I was going to move there a
year ago. Oh, okay.
620
00:36:32,290 --> 00:36:34,710
You're coming up on Guiding Light,
right?
621
00:36:35,850 --> 00:36:37,470
Phoebe and Stacey have been in ads.
622
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:43,300
Ramona's writing for E .T., right?
Entertainment Weekly, I'm sorry. E .W.?
623
00:36:43,300 --> 00:36:47,760
Right, I'd like to surf, and if anyone
wants to pay me to surf, put that out
624
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:48,760
there.
625
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:54,220
Hey, look, there is one person missing
from this reunion, a man so familiar
626
00:36:54,220 --> 00:36:57,180
he's almost been like the 17th cast
away. I'm talking, of course, about the
627
00:36:57,180 --> 00:37:00,200
show's host, not Richard Hatch, Jeff
Probst.
628
00:37:00,660 --> 00:37:04,460
Jeff has been in Australia, site of the
next Survivor Challenge, which is set to
629
00:37:04,460 --> 00:37:06,400
air early next year, right after the
Super Bowl.
630
00:37:06,940 --> 00:37:11,300
Tonight... He's got the first look at
what 16 new survivor entrants will have
631
00:37:11,300 --> 00:37:13,560
outwit and outlast in the outback.
632
00:37:16,260 --> 00:37:22,520
Soon, 16 new strangers will volunteer to
be stranded here in the Australian
633
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:28,780
outback. This is a land so vast, so
remote, that large portions of it aren't
634
00:37:28,780 --> 00:37:29,780
even charted.
635
00:37:30,020 --> 00:37:31,260
Certainly majestic.
636
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,420
Stunning vistas, all sorts of exotic
wildlife. But 39 days in this
637
00:37:36,420 --> 00:37:40,680
is going to be harsh. The temperatures
will be scorching. And unlike Borneo,
638
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,980
trees here provide very little shade, no
relief from the heat. Not to mention
639
00:37:44,980 --> 00:37:48,180
the fact that there are all sorts of
deadly creatures scampering about.
640
00:37:49,180 --> 00:37:52,740
It's going to be a tough environment,
but there is hope. The aboriginals have
641
00:37:52,740 --> 00:37:57,860
survived out here for centuries simply
by learning to adapt. And as a result,
642
00:37:57,900 --> 00:37:59,200
they're able to live in harmony.
643
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,320
with a land that is really unlike any
other place on earth. How will the 16
644
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,780
survivors fare in this environment?
645
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,240
Who knows? The bigger question, how will
they fare with each other? Because as
646
00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:14,280
we have seen, surviving each other,
surviving the social politics is what
647
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,460
game is all about.
648
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:21,060
And this time, the delicious but dreaded
tribal council will take place high
649
00:38:21,060 --> 00:38:25,720
atop a beautiful waterfall where each
week the tribes will come, cast their
650
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:28,280
ballots, and then, boop, somebody off.
651
00:38:28,570 --> 00:38:32,910
the island. The landscape may have
changed, but the test remains the same.
652
00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:38,910
Outwit, outplay, outlast to be the sole
survivor. The first time was great.
653
00:38:39,230 --> 00:38:41,550
Can't wait to do it again. I'll see you
in the Outback.
654
00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:56,470
I think it was Sonia who said that this
game is really about surviving the vote.
655
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:58,480
Is that what it is, you think?
656
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:05,220
Well, I think so. I have said that I
forgot the outwit part of it. I had a
657
00:39:05,220 --> 00:39:10,140
idealized notion that we should go there
with teamwork and the ultimate survivor
658
00:39:10,140 --> 00:39:13,580
would rise to the top and we would
support them. Eh, not.
659
00:39:15,220 --> 00:39:19,460
And if that's what it had been, if it
had just been about surviving in the
660
00:39:19,460 --> 00:39:21,140
wilds, who would have won?
661
00:39:22,580 --> 00:39:23,580
Greg.
662
00:39:24,509 --> 00:39:27,810
We're getting a lot of Gretchen's over
here. I could see if we would have stuck
663
00:39:27,810 --> 00:39:30,430
together, I think she would have
definitely won. There's no doubt.
664
00:39:31,170 --> 00:39:34,310
Just from, you know, who's going to vote
against her. I think Gretchen would
665
00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:37,650
have. Well, she taught survival for,
what, six years at the Air Force?
666
00:39:37,650 --> 00:39:38,169
no doubt.
667
00:39:38,170 --> 00:39:39,730
I think Greg.
668
00:39:40,210 --> 00:39:44,710
I think Greg has the natural instincts
for it. Joel's also very capable. So are
669
00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:45,589
Sue and Kelly.
670
00:39:45,590 --> 00:39:49,550
I was a big fish out of one of them.
They did a great job casting, all 16 of
671
00:39:49,550 --> 00:39:52,090
them. They did do a great job casting.
There's no doubt about that. We're going
672
00:39:52,090 --> 00:39:53,430
to come back with some final word.
673
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,520
from the Castaways. We'll do that after
this.
674
00:40:22,860 --> 00:40:24,220
But no games, you know.
675
00:40:25,860 --> 00:40:26,860
I'm going to be myself.
676
00:40:29,540 --> 00:40:33,700
Oh, my God.
677
00:40:34,780 --> 00:40:36,320
Was that your thesis of Brown?
678
00:40:36,940 --> 00:40:41,820
Close. Very close. It was a partnership
with my sister. She really, she made it
679
00:40:41,820 --> 00:40:42,820
what it was.
680
00:40:43,540 --> 00:40:45,260
We've heard about that partnership.
Yeah.
681
00:40:46,460 --> 00:40:47,580
Tell her thanks for us, will you?
682
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,360
Before we came on the air, Rich came up
to me, and he said he wanted to do
683
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,520
something before we got away. So, Rich,
why don't you go ahead and do it?
684
00:40:54,820 --> 00:41:00,840
Just really quickly, the poll that you
saw the people take, and they talked
685
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,320
about who ought to win, and they picked
Rudy.
686
00:41:03,660 --> 00:41:10,060
And Kelly and I had a chance to be there
at the end and close the camp.
687
00:41:10,570 --> 00:41:13,770
And these were a couple of things that
were left in camp that I think Marge and
688
00:41:13,770 --> 00:41:17,590
Rudy would like. And one is the sign
that said, Rowdy Rudy's Diner.
689
00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:21,650
And I want Marge to have it. And the
other is the clue that we got for the
690
00:41:21,650 --> 00:41:23,050
immunity challenge that Rudy won.
691
00:41:28,350 --> 00:41:29,350
Hey, Rich.
692
00:41:30,290 --> 00:41:33,430
I started with you. I'm going to end
with you.
693
00:41:33,670 --> 00:41:36,690
You said on the air that the million
would change your life.
694
00:41:36,990 --> 00:41:38,130
How's it going to? What are you going to
do?
695
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,940
There are a couple of things I've wanted
to do. One main thing is to start an
696
00:41:41,940 --> 00:41:44,940
outdoor adventure program for troubled
teens, something like I went on when I
697
00:41:44,940 --> 00:41:48,820
was 18 years old. And it's a goal that
I've had for a long time.
698
00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:52,240
It's really nice.
699
00:41:52,300 --> 00:41:53,300
It's really nice.
700
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,120
You're a deserving winner. Thank you.
701
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,940
You're a very deserving winner. You
played the game. You played it tough.
702
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,460
I had fun. You played it upright. You
played it smart.
703
00:42:01,220 --> 00:42:04,040
And you deserve big congratulations, as
do all of you.
704
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:17,400
So it is time now for us to end the
special tribal council. Only this time,
705
00:42:17,460 --> 00:42:22,000
there are no votes to cast, no torches
to snuff out. The 16 people on this
706
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,840
tonight began as strangers, but now
millions of us know them on a first
707
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:30,140
basis. Whether you view their efforts as
some deep -seated microcosm of society
708
00:42:30,140 --> 00:42:33,920
or nothing more than a television game,
there is no denying their impact.
709
00:42:34,380 --> 00:42:39,040
These castaways will be appearing in
advertisements like this one out just
710
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,470
week. as well as on magazine cover and
in newspapers for some time to come.
711
00:42:43,850 --> 00:42:47,270
Tomorrow morning, some even will be
joining me on the early show.
712
00:42:47,570 --> 00:42:48,570
So we'll see you then.
713
00:42:48,790 --> 00:42:53,170
On behalf of these 16 now familiar
individuals, I'm Bryant Gumbel, thanking
714
00:42:53,170 --> 00:42:54,170
for being a part of this reunion.
715
00:42:54,910 --> 00:42:56,790
Once again, the tribe has spoken.
716
00:42:57,090 --> 00:42:58,090
Good night.
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