All language subtitles for Howard Stern (Mother & Daughter Porn Stars)

Hi, I'm Desi Fox.

And I'm Ellie Fox.

We're the mother and daughter porn stars.

We are the very first mother and daughter
porn team ever in the adult industry.

Now, what are you going to
talk to Howard about today?

Just, like, your relationship together
and how you got into the business?

Yeah, and a little bit about what it's like
to be a mom and daughter, both in porn,

shooting our first scene where
we were in a scene together,

not with each other, but in the
scene together with a couple of guys.

Had a good time.

Are you nervous or excited?

Very nervous.

I'm a little nervous, a lot excited.

More excited than anything.

Just glad that we get to meet
Howard and see all you guys.

Yeah, we hear he's real wild, so
we're going to have a good time.

All right, great. Have fun in there today.

Thanks.

All right, let's find out what possesses
a mom and daughter to go into porno.

Mother-daughter working
together for 10 months now in porn.

Daughter goes into porn and
convinces her mom to join her on screen.

This is a legitimate mother-daughter
team, not a stepmother, nothing like that.

Let's meet Desi and Ellie.

Desi and Ellie, who are a
mother-daughter porno team.

Hi, girls.

Look at mom.

Look at mom, all decked out.

Oh, my God.

Look at you, honey.

Where'd she get those things?

Where'd you get them big titties?

They're bought.

They are very nice.

Bought and paid for.

Mommy, very nice.

You better get some for your girl here.

We're working on that.

You look good, honey.
You don't need the big titties.

She's got to play the
young girl thing for a while.

She's very cute.

They feel very nice, too.

All right, let's get this straight.

Desi, you're the mom.

I'm the mom.

And Ellie, you're the daughter.

Yes, that's correct.

You decide to go into porn.

How old a girl are you?

You seem very young.

I'm 22 now.

22. You're a good-looking girl.

How long have you been doing this?

We have been doing this
since November of last year,

so about 10 months.

Yes.

All right, how old are you?

You're 22.

And mom, how old are you,
if you don't mind me asking?

I'm 48.

48. You look damn good for 48.

Thank you.

You held yourself together.

Yeah, I mean, a lot of women
fall apart by the time they're 48.

You've got your body in shape and all that.

How many kids have you had?

Three. So you look pretty good.

Thank you.

You're not some slob.

We got some more to bring to porn, or what?

No.

So now, Desi, I mean, rather,
Ellie, what made you go into porn?

You could be winning
first, right, before mom.

Yes, we were moving to Miami,

and I wanted to maybe look for
a different way of making income.

I wanted more...

Were you a stripper?

Was that what you were doing?

No, I was actually a dog
groomer at a vet clinic.

There is more money in porn, I think.

Oh, yeah, definitely.

You're saying you can make more
money in porn than dog grooming.

Absolutely.

And it got boring.

Now, we used to watch porn and say,

you know, I don't have a
moral problem with this.

I think I could do it.

I watched it, but I never
actually thought about doing it.

How do you get into it, though?

Where do you go to get, like,

what door do you knock
on to get into a porn?

I looked online, tried
to find some research,

really couldn't find much,

so I posted an ad on sexyjobs.com

and saw what people said back.

Now, mom, most people would say,

listen, you've accepted
your daughter's lifestyle

and all of that,

but aren't you supposed
to be the one that says,

listen, honey, this isn't
healthy, this isn't good,

I'm worried about you.

Instead, you've joined her.

Yeah.

And also, isn't the mother
supposed to influence the daughter

as opposed to you getting into her life?

The daughter influencing the mother, yeah.

Were you a wild child?

Were you acting out
sexually at a young age?

I was.

I had boys over when I wasn't supposed to

when I was 11, 12 years old.

Did you lose your virginity?

Were you banging dudes
when you were 11 or 12?

No, I was 14 when I lost my virginity.

14, oh, yeah.

Did you like boys?

She loved boys.

But I loved boys, too.

I lost mine at 15.

What were you doing with them at 11?

Just kissing.

No blowjobs at 11?

Be honest.

Did you ever blow a guy when you were 11?

That was, I was 12 in 7th grade.

You were 12 when you blew a guy.

Yeah.

It really wasn't a blowjob, though.

I had no idea.

I just licked it.

I'm like, hmm.

Was your mom blowing guys in front of you

or anything like that?

Weird, anything kinky
going on at the house?

Oh, no.

No.

They never, she never had sex in the house.

When I was really young, we never knew.

We thought our parents
were doing taxes, whatever.

You didn't know what was going on.

And she never brought a guy
home after my parents got divorced.

So, no, I jaded away from the house.

And because you're
such a good looking girl,

were you always getting a
lot of attention from boys?

And were guys always
making a fuss over her?

Is that the way it went?

Um, not so much.

I was more the instigator.

I was kind of an ugly
duckling when I was younger.

Really?

I always had short hair, braces.

So you're telling the girls
out there, never give up hope.

You can blossom.

Exactly.

Oh, yeah.

They used to call me the librarian.

Did you used to not wear
panties to school and stuff like that?

Were you the type of
girl who was provocative?

Did you ever seduce your
teachers by crossing in and crossing

your legs and all that stuff?

No, I was actually kind
of more the bookworm.

You never blew any of the teachers?

No.

Did you have sex with any
of the other girls at school?

No, I was never with a girl until
actually I got into the industry.

All right.

I wanted to.

Oh, you did want to.

I didn't have anybody
I was comfortable with.

And I needed a girl to
just basically seduce me.

And they don't do that a whole lot.

She was vicarious, though.

So you were really shot out of a
cannon when you got into this porno.

What was the first porno you went
into before your mom got into this?

The first video.

First video.

Company.

Yeah.

I worked for Reality Kings, I see in Miami.

Okay, you walk in and what do you do?

They say to you, get naked.

Let's take a look at your body, right?

Is that the audition?

Yeah, they took me back
to a wardrobe and makeup

room and he's like, I
need you to get naked.

Right.

And one guy.

Yeah, one guy.

Who's the owner?

Did you fuck him?

No, you didn't fuck I see.

No, we don't work for shoots.

Right.

I worked with male
talent that day, actually.

All right, so they bring
you in a room, they

put you in wardrobe,
whatever the hell that is.

They make you up, they
do your hair, and then

they say, come on,
Cameron, fuck some guy, right?

Basically.

That's the audition?

How else are you going to figure this out?

Sounds like a working audition.

That was the shoot.

Yeah.

Mel's on the phone.

Mel, you say you're really
into mother-daughter porn.

This is a fetish of yours?

Yes, Howard.

I was wondering if the
girls are into ass to mouth,

like mother's ass to the
daughter's mouth at all.

Have you seen that, Mel, go down?

I haven't seen mother-daughter,
but I have seen that type of porn.

Would that excite you if that happened?

Yes, it would, very much.

Ladies, give me a
theoretical here because we'll

get into what you guys
do on film in a minute.

But would you, if for the
money's right and this and

that, would you do
mother-daughter ass to mouth porn?

No.

Never.

Because your claim is you guys
do not make contact with each other.

We don't make any contact with each other.

Are there mother-daughter teams
that do make contact with one another?

We hear they do, but
we haven't found one yet.

You're saying are there films
where the mother-daughter

will go down on each
other and things like this?

We hear they do and there
are websites, but we don't

know if they're real
mother-daughters or if they're fake.

Right.

How do they know?

Like, how do people know
you're a real mother-daughter?

I've researched this.

I understand that you are.

But how would somebody really
know you're the real mother-daughter?

The only way basically everybody says is
we do look alike or mannerisms, everything.

They say they can tell
we're at least related.

Right.

So, documentation.

Does it anger you that
there are fakes out there, that

there are people who are
posing as mother-daughter?

Does it anger you?

Yes, somewhat, because it's
harder to give us credit for being real

mother-daughter when they shoot
films all the time where they just say,

oh, well, you know, we're
just going to book her and her.

Right, because it also
puts pressure on you.

Because now like this guy says, if he
sees ass to mouth between mother-daughter

and you guys are really
mother-daughter and don't do ass to mouth,

your films will not be as outrageous
as those fake mother-daughters.

Right, correct.

A mother-daughter would
be outrageous enough.

Yeah.

Have you ever outed any
fake mother-daughters?

Do you ever question
them and then out them?

We are a normal mother-daughter.

Right.

You know, I raised her
normally, so it's not, you know.

We don't even like to
be next to each other.

No, we don't even look
at each other naked much.

When you guys are in a porn together,
how far do you go with each other?

What happens in these porns?

If I buy one of your porns,
what do I end up seeing?

If we're...

If you're in it together,
in a room with the guys.

If we're actually having sex
in the same room, we are at

least five to ten feet away
from each other at all times.

Well, let me ask you about that.

Three or four.

In the same frame.

I noticed on your website last night
that the two of you are hugging each

other and you're both in cut-off
shorts, but your titties are exposed.

But you're hugging each other.

You're very close to one another.

So isn't that kind of sexual in a way?

No.

We're just taking some glamour
nude photos like you would for...

I've done that with my dad, you're right.

So our penises, we jerk each
other off and that's as far as we go.

But we were the first to do it
and now we're out of that business.

My father's older now.

He's not as hot as he was.

He's lost his looks.

Yeah.

He's limp.

So wait a second,
because I know if I was in a

photo with my dad, it
would be very strange to me.

The first time...

For you to be penis to penis?

So let's say the porno starts off.

Oh, we don't touch breasts.

Do you undress each other in the pornos?

No.

Never.

Do you undress in front of each other?

Yeah, well, I mean not...

We're not looking at each other.

We might be next to each other.

But are you undressing
in front of each other?

In the same room.

Yes, you are.

Oh, yes.

You've seen each other's beavers?

No, we've never looked.

You've never looked at your mom's beaver?

No.

I have no want to see that.

By beaver, of course, you know I
mean vagina, not an actual beaver.

I know you have a pet beaver.

We call it showing your pink
and we don't see each other's pink.

We don't want to see each other's pink.

You don't want to see...

You show your daughter's
vagina, obviously,

when you changed
her as a baby in diapers.

Do you ever say to yourself
in the middle of shooting,

that's my baby, I changed
her diapers, I knew

she is fucking blowing
some guy right next to me,

I want to jump in and save her.

Do you ever say that to yourself?

No, because she's
having a good time having

sex and I'm having a
good time having sex.

Do you worry about her?

Like maybe one of the guys is
going to get too rough with her?

Not really.

She's an assertive...

I like it a little rough, so yeah.

And I mean she's an assertive
female, so she can take care of herself.

If they say to you, for this guy, Mel,

Listen, we want ass to mouth, give you a
million dollars for an ass to mouth video.

Would you do it?

No.

Not for a million dollars?

No.

I wouldn't be able to talk to her again.

Could somebody explain...

Your mouth would be full of doody.

Ass to mouth, explain that.

Ass to mouth means, let's say mom
would put her tongue up her daughter's ass.

Am I correct about that, Mel?

And then you kiss her.

And then you kiss. Is that right, Mel?

Yeah.

An ass to mouth, like my
cock in her ass to her mouth.

No, that's what I call it.

Okay, that's it.

Yeah.

That's what it is.

I wouldn't even touch
her for a million dollars.

And she would not do...

Let's say they said squeeze your
mom's titties for a million dollars.

You wouldn't do that?

We actually were offered,
if you want to know,

we were offered
$500,000 to do a 10 guy...

Gang bang?

Gang bang on the same bed.

Yeah, and we turned it down.

Why not the same bed?

I mean you're not touching each other.

Why not do the money?

A bed is an intimate setting.

Yes.

And I don't want to ever be sexually
intimate with her in the same room.

I see.

A couch is more swinging.

We're on separate sides of the room.

But you are in the same room.

You're in the same room, technically.

Right, right, right.

Is the idea of your
porno is that the fact that

you're having sex at the
same time in the same room?

You've got to go that far.

You can't draw the line.

Yes, yes.

That's part of it.

And then the other part
is the swapping guys.

Oh, so you swap guys.

I was going to say, do you
make love to the same guy?

Yeah.

And then the other part
is guys want to see us, the

fact that they can have
one of us and have the other.

So, Deji, if you're blowing
a guy, all of a sudden

that guy might get up and
then go fuck your daughter.

Yes.

That's what we're seeing.

Yes.

Okay, go ahead, Yara.

What do you want to say?

Here's a question, because some
of the guys have seen your movie.

So, can a guy have sex
with one of you guys and then

he takes it out and puts it
in the other one's mouth?

After he cleans it off very, very well.

See, we don't see that on the tape.

We don't see that on the movie.

No, that's a cut right there.

All right, so, Mom, let me understand this.

Your daughter gets into porn and you were
saying, Ellie, you went in, you auditioned.

That day they put you in
makeup, you get in front of

the camera, and then some
guy comes over and bangs you.

That's the audition.

Yeah, basically it was a huge setup.

We were there all day.

I was technically buying a car and he
was my car dealer and I had to seduce him.

And he actually, he was a very good guy.

He tried to court me beforehand.

He hugged me and made out with me.

So, he made it very easy to work
into the sex when we got to that point.

It was, the weirdest part was
having a camera crew there.

Right.

Right up in, I...

Did you feel anything for this guy or not?

A little bit.

I mean, he was very nice and he was a
very good kisser, very good at what he did.

He didn't smell?

You found him attractive a little bit?

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, he was adorable, yeah.

And they must have really...

He was the best for my first.

And did you go, for
your first, and did you tell

your mother right away,
Mom, guess what I just did?

Guess what I just did today?

I auditioned for a
porno and I got the part.

Well, she actually
dropped me off at the shoot.

First of all, she didn't
audition by having sex.

Right.

I had an agent.

He took me to the company and they
said they'd book me for the shoot that day.

Well, look at you.

I mean, who wouldn't put you in a porno?

You knew she could go through with it.

I didn't.

I actually was sitting
at dinner right before

we went to do the sex
and I was almost about

to chicken out and walk out, but I knew it
was something I wanted to do because...

Maybe God was on your side.

It seemed like a lot of fun.

You know what I mean?

He was there to hold you.

A guardian angel.

Maybe a God was your guardian angel.

And the guy was adorable.

And then it would get easier, you know.

You get more used to it.

And I really wanted to get into this world.

So right away, Mom knew,
Mom's driving you to the set.

Yeah.

You know, I'm a marketing guy.

Is Grandma still alive?

Yeah.

Does she know about any of this?

No.

You think she would want to get in on it?

She's almost 80.

We got it.

Would you think Grandma
might want to be in a triple?

Has there ever been a
mother-daughter-grandmother thing?

Not that...

We've been told that these things
happen, but then nobody can produce.

What would your mother
say if she knew you'd

be taking her
granddaughter and having sex

on camera with her?

Oh, she wouldn't like any of it.

She would not like it.

No.

She's very religious.

And the other weird
part that I heard, tell

me if this is true, you
have a brother and

sister.

Yes.

You have two other children.

Do you think your brother
and sister were up to this?

We tried to talk to them about
it, and they insisted that we not.

What do you mean?

They said, no, you can't do that.

You can't talk about it, or
you can't go to the porn?

No, we can't have porn.

We can't do porn.

You went to them and you said, look, we're
thinking about being in porn together.

And they said, don't do it.

Right.

And we said, well, you can
make a lot of money at it.

And my son said, well,
it's a good thing because

you'd have to pay
for a lot of therapy for

me.

How old are they, these days?

Did you suggest to them that
maybe they get in the pornos with you?

Because it would be fantastic.

How about you have family porn?

Yeah.

All in the room at the same time.

They're not like us.

They're not adventurous.

Sexually open.

I've always been an exhibitionist
and a voyeuristic person.

Is that right?

Where would you exhibit yourself?

Where would we see
you being an exhibitionist?

Before I went into porn?

Yeah.

Fuck guys outdoors?

Yeah, or I might like in
the bathroom at the club.

Well, let me tell you, you're quite a lady.

At the school, big city.

So girls, let me understand
the marketing plan here.

So then she comes
home one day, your

daughter, and says to
you, Mom, I'm in porno.

Was it your idea to
bring Mom into this thing?

Did someone suggest it to you?

No.

I called the agency the very first
day and I was talking to them about it.

They wanted me to come in
and I lived with her at the time.

And I don't really make any decision
like that without talking to my mom,

especially since I do live with her.

She would wonder where all
the money was coming from.

So I told her...

She was probably praying
you were a drug dealer.

I'd rather be a porn star.

I even got in.

I told her when I talked to the agency and
that's when she said she wanted to do it.

She volunteered.

Step right up.

I never thought she would want to do it.

I thought she'd be against
me doing it and it'd be a no.

The shocker was your mom says to you,

not only do I approve
of you being a porn star,

I want to be a porn star.

Did it annoy you on some level?

Isn't this your own thing?

You're the porn star.

You're the beauty.

Why does your mom have to get in on it?

Here she goes again.

She wants to do whatever I do.

There is a part of that.

What happened?

Tell me.

Oh yeah, definitely.

I thought I wanted to get
in and do my own thing.

And it's like everywhere I go,

everybody wants to talk about
us being in it and my mom.

How does a kid like you
rebel when you have a mom

who's ready to do
everything that you're doing?

You're doing the ultimate rebellion.

You're becoming a porn star.

Now your mom's hopping in on your action.

I behave, I guess.

I ask for help.

So you make it known you're
ready to go into porn, mom.

And then did you at first say to your mom,

look, I don't want to be in porns with you.

Maybe I need my own space here?

We never thought about
working in the same videos.

We didn't know that.

Who suggested it to you?

The agent?

Our agent.

Wow.

He actually, we had
different last names picked

out because we had our
own names we wanted.

When he said to you that, you know, what
about you two appearing in the same film?

Did you think he was perverted at first?

Did you think this was wrong?

Well, actually, when he first
started, he said, are you kidding me?

You have to have the same
name, your mother and daughter.

And we went, okay.

We didn't have any idea of the
implications of we're mother and daughter.

So we'd been in it for about a month or so
when it started coming out that, you know,

people wanted us to do scenes.

What was it like when you
did your first scene together?

Was it weird when your mom walked in
the room and was fucking blowing a guy?

It was really weird because I, the
very first scene we did in the same room,

it was one guy.

I worked with him and
then she worked with him.

And you sat there while
she worked with him?

With like my fingers and my ears
and I was messing with the camera guy.

See, they pulled the camera guy
in because she was doing the guy

and I'm at the other
end of the couch and the

talk show host was
supposed to be talking to me

while she was doing him.

He got into what they
were doing, so he took off.

So I'm sitting there going, I
have to have something to do.

So he pulled, the talk show host pulled
the camera guy in and he became my fluffer.

I see. He started messing around with you.

So the first movie you did together, do
you remember the name of the movie?

It must be ingrained in your brain.

It's for a website that actually
hasn't even launched yet.

I see. And it was a scenario
where you were on a talk show

and all of a sudden your daughter's
having sex with the talk show host.

You're sitting there
and you pull the camera

guy in and you start
fucking around with him.

Yeah.

That's the plot of the movie.

Yeah.

Well, no, the plot wasn't to have the
cameraman in, but we pulled him in.

You improvised.

Yeah.

And we didn't have sex
because he wasn't tested, but...

I see. Let me see...

He kept me busy.

Let me hear a bit of your work.

This is the Foxes, Desi and Ellie.

Yeah?

Can I interest you in a tossed salad?

I'm coming for the rent.

I don't have it.

Yeah, I guess then you
don't have a place to stay.

Christopher, that's not very neighborly.

Please, call me Chris.

I'm sure we could work
something out, can't we?

Chris.

Vielleicht.

Come with me.

Oh, oh, gotcha.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

You're fucking a guy.

Where's your daughter during this scene?

She's not there.

She's not in there.

No.

That's you alone.

That's me alone.

Who the hell wants to see that?

A lot of guys do.

You want to see the two of you together.

That's the money shot, right?

The college guys love that.

Okay, good.

So that's your own film.

That's you doing your own thing.

You don't like hearing that, do you?

No, I don't like hearing that.

She's, yeah.

So it does bother you on some level.

Oh, yeah.

When we do film the one film
we did the other day for our DVD,

where we're with the guys in
the same room, I get into the zone.

I'm with that guy.

It's just me and him.

Right.

We don't really do where
we look at the camera

a lot because we want
it to be more natural.

So I'm just me and that guy.

We're the only ones in the room.

Well, Ellie, in all fairness, here
you are from Teen Worship 2, right?

I guess you portray a
teenage girl in this one, right?

They try to make you younger than you are.

Is that true?

Yes.

I'm asking you.

Uh-huh, right there.

Now, Mom, why does it
bother you to hear the scene?

Because after all you know
what your daughter's doing.

Yeah, I mean you
condone this kind of stuff.

I think it bothers you
because you don't want to see

your little girl really getting
slammed by some guy.

No.

No, I don't want to see it.

Right.

You know.

It's all right with you, but you don't
want to know exactly what's going on.

Right.

I mean, you know, there's a part.

But there is a part of me.

I have to say there is a part of me.

I was 34 before I really started
learning and exploring my sexuality.

Right.

There is a part of me that
is happy about the fact that

my daughter is, you know,
22 and she can have orgasm.

But don't you think there is a
disconnect for you somewhere?

A disconnect for you
somewhere that you could really

accept your daughter in
porn and put yourself in porn.

There's got to be some.

Don't you think you're a little out there?

Come on.

I mean in all seriousness.

Yeah, I've never lived inside the box.

Right.

You're definitely all about the box.

What have you done?

Right.

I just, you know, do
whatever I feel like

doing and what I think
is comfortable for me.

Right.

I have to live inside my skin and other
people have to accept me the way I am.

Are you paving the road for other
mothers and daughters in this area?

We think so.

We hope that we don't
bring out the bad that

could come because
we don't want, you know,

a mother-daughter to
come in there and screw

up their relationship
by having to outdo us.

Doing things with each other.

I see.

Because the only way to really
outdo us is to do what we will not do.

And the companies will
try to push you to do that.

Oh, yes.

They push, push, they
try to pressure us big time.

They want you to do things
that you don't want to do.

They want you to do things to each other.

Yeah.

Right.

And they told us that
if we're not going to do

all these things together,
then we shouldn't

even mention that we're mother-daughter.

Right.

Roger, they're pressuring you.

Rob, go ahead in St. Louis.

What do you want to say?

Hey, Howard, love the show.

Hey, real quick, these boys
need to step up their fucking game.

Last night I was jerking off with two
sisters, sucking cock and swapping cum.

And these bitches are afraid to
wipe a dick before they suck it?

Come on, how do you expect to sell DVDs?

Is this the pressure you're under, girls?

Yes.

This is it.

Now we're starting to see your pressure.

For years, Rob and I had the
pressure of ratings and this kind of thing.

You have the pressure of ratings.

You've got to step up the game.

Yeah, yeah.

Girls, I feel your pain.

You'll have to wait for
the next team that will.

We just don't approve of incest.

I'm sorry.

Matt, go ahead.

You're on the air in Orlando.

Yes, Matt?

Oh, Howard, how you doing?

Thank you for picking up.

I just wanted to ask if
these two would cum swap.

Do you cum swap?

Whatever that is.

What does that mean exactly?

No, we don't.

That would be like cum in
one mouth and then kissing

the other and putting
it in the other's mouth.

Wow.

I do that with Rob.

No, we don't.

We're not related.

Yeah.

Well, it's fun if you're not related.

Really?

Yeah.

Hands, bell, you're on the air in Yonkers.

Hey, guys.

How you guys doing?

I want to ask the
23-year-old a few questions.

When she was 12, how
many dicks did she lick?

Also, if she tasted the cum?

When you were 12, how
many penises did you lick?

He wants to know.

I saw three and I licked two of them.

And I don't think I knew how
to make a guy cum back then.

So I don't think I saw any cum.

Did they lick you?

What?

Did they lick her?

Did the boys lick her?

I was 13 when I got
licked for the first time.

Licked for the very first
time, like the Madonna song.

No, I didn't learn to cum until I was 16.

Had a very good boyfriend.

Lots of practice.

Ask Napkinhead.

Go ahead.

After school.

Howard, the mother
sounds like an old booze hag

with the bitch in the
shining in the bathtub.

When I was younger, we would go.

Right.

They ain't looking for you there, trust me.

Mike, McCain or Obama,
who are you supporting, girls?

Obama.

Both of you are for Obama.

Absolutely.

All the way.

Mike, in Phoenix, Arizona.

Go ahead, Mike.

Hey, Howard, what's going on?

Hey, what's this mother look like?

Is she hot or does she look like Blue Iris?

You'll have to check out thefoxes.com.

She's showing me her titties right now,
and I've got to tell you, they look nice.

Like them?

Mom, if you sat on the Sibian right
now, would your daughter watch?

Oh, yeah.

I've never.

Would you watch your
daughter on the Sibian?

I wouldn't watch, but I
can sit here if she wants to.

Do you want to sit on it?

You do?

Yeah.

She wants to.

Yeah, she had it.

Have you tried it?

Oh, yeah, I love Sibians.

Mom, do you approve of
her taking a ride of the Sibian?

Not really.

She wants to get a ride, too.

I told her, see, she can't help myself.

She'll do this stuff
in front of me, and I'm

supposed to sit here,
but if I was to do it,

I mean, when Grabbing Granny
did it, was her granddaughter in here?

I believe so, yes.

But that was a very odd.

By the way, you asked me how they look.

Ellie is absolutely beautiful,
and Desi is beautiful as well.

So you girls are very good-looking.

There's no question about it.

Would you agree with that,
Artie, the girls are in good shape?

Yeah, they're good-looking.

Yeah, they are.

This might be the sickest
thing I've ever witnessed.

I'll be honest with you.

Yes, Will, what is it?

What's the problem?

No, I'm saying she might be more
comfortable if she has her clothes off.

Oh, is that right?

Can I leave Mom with my Mom here?

I'll take my panties off.

Listen, I ain't getting into this.

I'm not watching, so.

Your mom's turning her head.

Yeah, so you can do whatever you want.

Take your panties off
and take your top off.

Your mom will look the other way.

Thank you, Gary.

Gary, you came helpful in these situations.

All right, here we go.

I'm used to this.

He's the father of boys, obviously.

Ellie, may I say, don't
get breast implants.

You don't need them.

Thank you.

You really don't.

Thank you.

We all tell her that regularly.

Okay, here we go.

Here, Ellie wants to sit on the Sibian.

Who might have stopped her?

Right with her mom in the room.

All right, no interruptions.

I'm not going to say a word during this.

Thank you, Gary.

Here is Ellie performing on the Sibian.

Obviously, a Sibian expert.

Yeah.

What are you doing?

You're licking the piece of
rubber there just to make it wet?

Uh-huh.

Of course.

It's got to be nice and wet.

You really know what you're doing.

I've got to tell you, honey.

I mean, you really are.

You were born to perform,
I've got to be honest.

I've never seen anyone do that before.

Good for you.

She had one producer tell
her that her solos were poetry.

Whoa.

Be real about it.

Don't do any fake orgasm.

I want to know the truth.

All right, here we go.

All right, sit back.

Mom, your daughter has
perfect boobs, by the way.

Oh, well.

Thank you.

That was my boobs before my boob job.

I do.

You don't have to jump in on everything.

All right, here we go.

All right, here is Ellie.

So no one's gonna talk,
it's just gonna be me.

You want me to talk to you?

Uh-huh. Talk dirty to me.

Talk dirty?

Yeah.

Alright baby, no problem.

Howard, don't do it.

Alright, I'll shut up.

I'll get yelled at if I talk dirty to you.

Sorry.

Oh, that feels so good.

Would you like it raised?

It's going pretty good.

Can't have it too strong, too fast.

Alright, alright. Go slow, Gary.

Yeah, slow and steady.

Mom, you okay over there?

I'm okay.

The mother's reading
the Wall Street Journal.

Shh, come on. Don't interrupt.

Yeah, last time she did something
like this, I had to read something.

What were you reading?

It wasn't the Bible.

No.

Give her a Bible, will ya?

Wait, you're doing it wrong.

Oh yeah, you're helping me get all
done there right now, but I'm a chipper.

Alright, let's be quiet.
Let's think about dirty stuff.

It sucks when you're
forced to read something.

Think out loud what you're
thinking through your head.

What are you thinking about? Go ahead.

I'm trying to think about...

Yeah.

I mean, space and...

and my hair pulled.

Who's doing that to you?
A black guy or a white guy?

Actually, an Italian guy.

Italian.

She's too young in her
career to do interracial.

Can't wait for that.

They have rules about that.
We were really surprised.

Really? She hasn't done interracial yet?

No, they have rules about that.

What's the rule?

Well, the rule is that...

Mother has to go first.

You add who you're
going to go in your career.

Oh, as you go out there.

Yeah.

So like, she doesn't do anal,
she doesn't do interracial.

Wait, your daughter's getting...

Shh, shh.

She'll think about getting
fucked by a white guy.

An Italian.

Italian guy.

Keep going.

You know I'll sit on
here all day if you let me.

Did you have an orgasm yet?

Are you in there?

Okay, shh.

How far do you have a nice big cock?

Big, thick, two inches.

Yeah.

That's hot.

Damn right.

Two inches tall.

Go ahead.

Think about it.

Right over that ass of yours?

Yeah, baby.

That's right.

I bend you over and give it to you hard.

And he's still clapping on the microphone.

You're a smack man.

Smack your ass.

Mouth to ass, everything.

Ass to mouth.

She's spanking herself.

You spank me.

Spank her, Will.

She needs help.

Yeah, spank her.

I know you're mad.

Somebody pull her hair.

That's a good one.

Jack it up all the way, Gary.

Go ahead, now.

Richie, pull her hair, please.

You gotta get this going.

You're Italian, poor hair.

Gary, put it on.

You okay? I think so.
But she wanted you to

punch her in the mouth
and take out her teeth.

Oh no, you guys are
perfect, thank you. Is

that good, they helped
you? Oh yeah. So you

got off on that, huh?
They were awesome, can

I take them home? Oh
yeah, congratulations.

You got a boyfriend in
real life? Do you have

a boyfriend in real
life? No, I don't. I've

been single about two years. She does now.
That's crazy. I know, I got into porn too.

I wasn't getting enough
good sex and I wasn't

getting enough
practice for myself. I can't

I like to be spanked. Are you proud of your
little girl right now? That was a hell of

a performance. Hey, she had a good orgasm,
man, that's a happy thing. You're proud of

the performance,
aren't you? You are, you

like that. I just hope
my son shares my love

of pussy. Let me tell you something. There
is something to be said about that. I got

it, Penny. Well, unless
he goes the other

way, I'm sure he does.
Ellie, I was watching

you, I know my fans on Howard TV are going
to go wild when they see you. You're quite

with her. Well, you two
really are on to something.

What it is, I don't
know, but you're on to

something. To order
Desi and Ellie Fox's movie,

The Foxes, that's the
double X Foxes, F-O-X-X-S.

As opposed to the
single X Foxes. Well, Red

Foxes. A Day in the Lives,
Volume 1. TheFoxes.com.

TheFoxes, F-O-X-X-S.com. Go on, you can see
the girls on there. I'm sure you can take

a look at their pictures.
You'll see they're

quite beautiful. Ladies,
what can I say? You're

on to something. This
is America, and I guess

anything goes. You
think the mom can outdo

the daughter on The
Sibbian? Do you think

you can outdo her?
No, not at all. No? You're

not a little bit
competitive? No. Show her

that who's the boss. I
actually want to smack

you two. Come on. You want to get on your
mom and outdo her? No. I have a funny story

about The Sibbian,
actually. I was at a shoot,

and it was a solo, and I
worked on The Sibbian,

and she came to pick
me up afterwards, and

she's never even seen
one at that point. No,

I haven't ever. I'm like, you have to see
it. This is like my boyfriend that I only

get to visit when they
hire me for these kind

of jobs. Right. And
so she, you know, fully

clothed, whatever, he
sat it down so she could

just sit on it. She
loved it. She loved it.

So maybe we got to get one. I don't know.
Now tell the funny story. We can't really

share it. No, you
shouldn't share The Sibbian

with your mom. Get
your own. No. Yeah, yeah.

Now listen, ladies,
what can I say? I'm quite

taken with the two
of you. I'm quite taken

with you. Well, thank you. That really got
me off thinking about you just bending me

over. I think I got you
when I said I admitted

I had two inches. But
you haven't known too

many guys outside.
Hey, that's all you need,

baby. The G-spot's
right there. That's right.

Ladies, how'd it go in there? Oh, it went
wonderful. We had a great time. He was very

good to us. Oh my gosh, I'm still a little
lightheaded. How was that Sibian ride? Oh,

that was awesome.
That was probably one of

the best Sibian rides
we've had. Really? Yeah,

definitely. Your crew
was great. They helped

me out perfectly. Just
when I needed them.

What was it that got you off? The smacking
or the hair pulling? The little pull. More

so the hair pulling. I had something about
it, I don't know, and then thinking about

it. You couldn't watch
that, could you? No, I

don't watch. I'm going
to hurt if she doesn't

watch too, because
then I can just, you know.

Yeah, you know, she
can relax and enjoy herself.

You guys even had a
hard time listening to

each other's clips.
Yeah. You walked out of

taking your headphones
off. It doesn't bother

me quite as much
as her. Like I said, the

fact that my daughter
at 22 can enjoy having

orgasms, which when
I didn't start doing that

We're just kind of like
two single girls swinging.

Just having fun.
Yeah, that's kind of the

way we're doing it,
because that's who we

are. All right, so you
had a good time today?

Yeah, we had a blast.
Had a great time. Yeah.

So much better than
last time. Thanks for

stopping by. Thank you. Oh,
thanks for having us. We appreciate it.

All right, here is Ellie.

So no one's going to talk,
it's just going to be me?

You want me to talk
to you? Talk dirty to me.

Talk dirty? Yeah. All
right, baby, no problem.

Howard, don't do it.
Shut up. I'm not getting

yelled at if I talk
dirty to you. Sorry.

Oh, that feels so good.
Would you like it raised

up? It's going pretty
good. Can't have it too

strong, too fast. All
right, all right. Go slow,

Gary. Yeah, slow and steady.
Mom, you okay over there?

I'm good. The mother's
reading the Wall Street

Journal. Shh, come
on, don't interrupt. Shh.

Yeah, last time she
did something like this, I

had to read something
to keep me out of trouble.

What were you reading? It wasn't
the Bible. No. Give her a Bible, will you?

Shh, wait. You're helping
me get there down there.

Let's be quiet. Let's
think about dirty stuff.

It sucks when you're forced
to read something. Think

out loud what you're
thinking through your head.

What are you thinking about? Go
ahead. I'm trying to think about...

Yeah. I'm thinking of space
and having my hair pulled.

Who's doing that to you,
a black guy or a white guy?

Actually, an Italian. She's
too young in her career to

do interracial. Can't wait.
They have rules about that.

Really? She hasn't
done interracial yet? No,

they have rules about
that. What's the rule?

Well, the rule is that you add to your
ratio in your career. Oh, as you go. Okay.

So like she doesn't do anal.
Wait, your daughter's getting

options. She's thinking about
getting fucked by a white guy.

An Italian. An Italian
guy. Keep going. You

know I'll sit on here
all day if you let me.

Did you have an orgasm yet?
I'm in there. I'm a little lightheaded.

Howard, do you have
a nice big cock? Big,

thick, two inches.
Oh, that's how I like it.

Two inches hard. I can think
about you fucking me. Go

ahead. Think about that.
Right over that ass of yours.

Yeah, baby. That's right.
I bent you over and give it

to you hard. And he's still
talking on the microphone.

You're a smack man. Smack your ass.
Mouth to ass everything. Ass to mouth.

She's spanking herself.
Spank her, Will. You

spank me. Spank her,
Will. She needs help.

Yeah, spank her. I know you're
mad. Somebody pull her hair.

Ah, that feels good. Thank
you. Oh, yeah. Jack it up

all the way. Go, Gary. Give
it to her. Go ahead. Now.

Richie, I'm gonna pull your hair, please.

You gotta get this going.

Start out.

You're Italian, pull her hair.

With us.