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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:49,224 --> 00:01:51,691 President Trump's immigration policy, 2 00:01:51,692 --> 00:01:53,225 including a proposed border wall 3 00:01:53,227 --> 00:01:55,061 and what's been called a "Muslim ban," 4 00:01:55,063 --> 00:01:57,396 sent shock waves around the world. 5 00:01:57,397 --> 00:01:59,698 We are going to stop 6 00:01:59,700 --> 00:02:01,700 the Syrian refugees 7 00:02:01,701 --> 00:02:04,102 from entering the United States. 8 00:02:04,103 --> 00:02:05,903 We want Trump! 9 00:02:05,906 --> 00:02:08,173 But these issues are not uniquely American. 10 00:02:08,174 --> 00:02:11,209 The European Union is grappling with a similar breed 11 00:02:11,210 --> 00:02:13,878 of populist politics with far-right candidates 12 00:02:13,879 --> 00:02:16,146 making huge gains across Europe. 13 00:02:16,147 --> 00:02:17,414 Fear of foreigners 14 00:02:17,417 --> 00:02:19,149 or doubts about economic management 15 00:02:19,151 --> 00:02:22,186 have led to a rise in extremist populist parties. 16 00:02:22,188 --> 00:02:24,421 Great Britain has already decided 17 00:02:24,424 --> 00:02:25,890 to leave the EU altogether 18 00:02:25,891 --> 00:02:27,557 and the fight over immigration 19 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,560 could determine Europe's political course 20 00:02:29,561 --> 00:02:30,860 for years to come. 21 00:03:02,091 --> 00:03:05,058 In Hungary, Prime Minister Viktor Orbán's government 22 00:03:05,061 --> 00:03:09,163 has put this European Union border country on lockdown. 23 00:03:09,164 --> 00:03:13,300 A 181-mile border fence was built in 2015 24 00:03:13,302 --> 00:03:16,203 to stop the flow of refugees from entering the country 25 00:03:16,204 --> 00:03:18,239 from Serbia or Croatia. 26 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,442 National Police chief Károly Papp 27 00:03:20,444 --> 00:03:23,509 oversees Hungary's border control operations. 28 00:03:23,512 --> 00:03:27,013 How effective is the police operation down there? 29 00:03:47,769 --> 00:03:50,169 Hungary's crime rate was actually on the decline 30 00:03:50,170 --> 00:03:52,204 prior to the fence being built, 31 00:03:52,205 --> 00:03:54,173 but rural farmers in border towns 32 00:03:54,175 --> 00:03:55,606 were facing practical issues 33 00:03:55,609 --> 00:03:58,075 as the flow of refugees increased. 34 00:03:58,078 --> 00:04:01,278 How have things changed here in the last few years? 35 00:04:59,536 --> 00:05:03,071 In order to justify closing what used to be an open border, 36 00:05:03,072 --> 00:05:06,072 Prime Minister Orbán amplifies the farmer's fear, 37 00:05:06,074 --> 00:05:09,410 citing terror threats as the primary reason. 38 00:05:16,752 --> 00:05:19,786 As Europe sees more and more attacks 39 00:05:19,788 --> 00:05:21,922 by ISIS affiliated terrorists, 40 00:05:21,923 --> 00:05:24,490 populists put the blame on the increased influx 41 00:05:24,492 --> 00:05:27,427 of refugees from the Middle East. 42 00:05:27,428 --> 00:05:29,795 As a result, thousands of refugees 43 00:05:29,798 --> 00:05:32,031 are now being stopped at the border. 44 00:05:32,033 --> 00:05:34,867 What's it like to police this area? 45 00:06:07,466 --> 00:06:08,800 After the fence was built, 46 00:06:08,802 --> 00:06:10,567 refugee camps started forming 47 00:06:10,569 --> 00:06:12,401 on the Serbian side of the border, 48 00:06:12,403 --> 00:06:14,605 where migrants wait for their opportunity 49 00:06:14,606 --> 00:06:16,505 to sneak into Hungary. 50 00:06:16,507 --> 00:06:17,774 Hi. 51 00:06:18,877 --> 00:06:20,644 Hello. 52 00:06:20,646 --> 00:06:22,079 How are you? 53 00:06:23,215 --> 00:06:24,981 How old are you? 54 00:06:24,983 --> 00:06:26,548 Your age. 55 00:06:26,550 --> 00:06:27,985 11. All right. 56 00:06:27,987 --> 00:06:29,183 Where are you from? 57 00:06:30,387 --> 00:06:31,620 Afghanistan. 58 00:06:34,324 --> 00:06:35,757 Nice to meet you. 59 00:06:40,031 --> 00:06:41,663 These children, 60 00:06:41,665 --> 00:06:44,666 they're--they're not terrorists, are they? 61 00:06:46,702 --> 00:06:49,470 That must make you feel something when you see them. 62 00:07:06,689 --> 00:07:09,889 These decisions come directly from the Hungarian government. 63 00:07:09,891 --> 00:07:11,557 While many other EU countries 64 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,261 followed Germany's lead in welcoming the refugees, 65 00:07:14,262 --> 00:07:17,730 Hungary surged to the right, sealing its borders. 66 00:07:17,733 --> 00:07:19,533 We sat down with Orbán's spokesman 67 00:07:19,534 --> 00:07:20,733 to find out why. 68 00:07:20,735 --> 00:07:24,670 Why did Hungary see it as its responsibility 69 00:07:24,673 --> 00:07:27,572 to be the bastions of law and order 70 00:07:27,574 --> 00:07:28,975 for the European Union, 71 00:07:28,976 --> 00:07:31,778 when Angela Merkel had said 72 00:07:31,779 --> 00:07:33,512 that refugees-- 73 00:07:33,514 --> 00:07:34,646 Use--use the proper terms 74 00:07:34,649 --> 00:07:36,981 because up until they have a legal status 75 00:07:36,983 --> 00:07:38,516 everybody should be called a migrant. 76 00:07:38,518 --> 00:07:39,718 As a matter of fact, an illegal migrant. 77 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,055 The European Union is a community of states 78 00:07:43,057 --> 00:07:46,190 in which there are rules, and that was our major problem, 79 00:07:46,192 --> 00:07:48,293 actually, with the German position. 80 00:07:48,295 --> 00:07:51,163 How can you request, without our consent, 81 00:07:51,165 --> 00:07:52,497 that you don't follow the rules? 82 00:07:52,499 --> 00:07:56,132 Do you think that refugees have a right to come to Europe? 83 00:07:56,134 --> 00:07:59,136 Nowhere in international law is it suggested 84 00:07:59,137 --> 00:08:02,406 that you have the right of freedom without authorization. 85 00:08:02,408 --> 00:08:05,576 You're not allowed to be naive on that. 86 00:08:05,577 --> 00:08:07,244 Quite a number of the perpetrators 87 00:08:07,245 --> 00:08:08,644 of the Paris attacks 88 00:08:08,646 --> 00:08:11,613 and the bombing at the Brussels airport, 89 00:08:11,615 --> 00:08:13,481 they're coming through Hungary 90 00:08:13,483 --> 00:08:16,319 using basically the illegal flow of migrants 91 00:08:16,321 --> 00:08:17,721 to the European Union. 92 00:08:17,723 --> 00:08:20,156 That's a serious breach of security. 93 00:08:20,158 --> 00:08:22,257 There are many who, 94 00:08:22,259 --> 00:08:24,627 under the camouflage of a religion, 95 00:08:24,629 --> 00:08:28,396 extremists would like to wipe out a civilization. 96 00:08:28,398 --> 00:08:29,965 As Mr. Schuman put it, 97 00:08:29,966 --> 00:08:31,899 one of the founding fathers of the European Union, 98 00:08:31,901 --> 00:08:34,603 "Europe will be or should be Christian, 99 00:08:34,605 --> 00:08:36,637 or will not be." 100 00:08:36,639 --> 00:08:39,040 If you want to get rid of the core values, 101 00:08:39,043 --> 00:08:40,108 then you are getting rid of 102 00:08:40,110 --> 00:08:42,244 the original sense of that community. 103 00:08:43,646 --> 00:08:45,947 Across the EU, far-right candidates 104 00:08:45,949 --> 00:08:47,648 are using the immigration debate 105 00:08:47,649 --> 00:08:49,283 to push a nationalist agenda 106 00:08:49,285 --> 00:08:51,285 that's threatening the very existence 107 00:08:51,286 --> 00:08:52,685 of the EU itself. 108 00:08:57,894 --> 00:08:59,360 The past few years have shown 109 00:08:59,362 --> 00:09:00,827 the biggest increase in votes 110 00:09:00,829 --> 00:09:02,562 for nationalist and populist parties 111 00:09:02,564 --> 00:09:05,430 in Europe since World War II. 112 00:09:05,432 --> 00:09:07,634 Following Trump's victory in the U.S., 113 00:09:07,636 --> 00:09:09,569 the world's eyes turned to the next election 114 00:09:09,571 --> 00:09:12,139 with a far-right candidate: Austria, 115 00:09:12,141 --> 00:09:14,440 where Independent Alexander Van Der Bellen 116 00:09:14,442 --> 00:09:17,878 was fending off Norbert Hofer of Austria's Freedom Party. 117 00:09:17,879 --> 00:09:20,145 Suddenly, the left-leaning country 118 00:09:20,148 --> 00:09:22,713 was on the brink of electing a far-right president 119 00:09:22,716 --> 00:09:24,716 for the first time in decades. 120 00:09:30,224 --> 00:09:32,323 Norbert Hofer, a gun loving, 121 00:09:32,326 --> 00:09:33,524 anti Islam populist 122 00:09:33,527 --> 00:09:35,126 representing the Freedom Party, 123 00:09:35,129 --> 00:09:37,394 founded by Ex-Nazis. 124 00:09:37,397 --> 00:09:39,629 Among the founding members of the Freedom Party 125 00:09:39,631 --> 00:09:43,268 was high-ranking SS general Anton Reinthaller 126 00:09:43,269 --> 00:09:44,668 who founded the party 127 00:09:44,671 --> 00:09:46,870 to strengthen nationalist interests 128 00:09:46,873 --> 00:09:48,873 in post World War II Austria. 129 00:09:48,875 --> 00:09:50,607 We traveled to Austria 130 00:09:50,610 --> 00:09:53,442 as one of Europe's most polarizing elections 131 00:09:53,445 --> 00:09:55,477 reached its climax. 132 00:10:15,033 --> 00:10:17,899 We're in Vienna, where one of the most divisive elections 133 00:10:17,902 --> 00:10:21,570 in Austria's recent history is about to come to an end. 134 00:10:21,572 --> 00:10:24,974 Whether the people here decide to go left or right 135 00:10:24,975 --> 00:10:27,174 will also decide what might happen 136 00:10:27,177 --> 00:10:28,976 to the future of the European Union. 137 00:10:31,948 --> 00:10:35,615 How much is Islamophobia playing in this election? 138 00:11:05,846 --> 00:11:08,380 Lena took me to a campaign appearance 139 00:11:08,383 --> 00:11:11,049 by Hofer's opponent Alexander Van Der Bellen. 140 00:11:12,754 --> 00:11:14,187 Alexander Van Der Bellen! 141 00:11:49,687 --> 00:11:52,989 Across town, Hofer was also focused on immigration, 142 00:11:52,990 --> 00:11:56,826 but took a hard-line approach to the crisis. 143 00:12:27,590 --> 00:12:29,256 With the candidates neck-and-neck, 144 00:12:29,259 --> 00:12:30,959 both sides were out in full force 145 00:12:30,961 --> 00:12:33,027 before the final presidential debate. 146 00:12:33,028 --> 00:12:36,029 Hofer! 147 00:12:40,769 --> 00:12:43,437 It's just before the final presidential debate 148 00:12:43,438 --> 00:12:46,005 and supporters of the two candidates 149 00:12:46,008 --> 00:12:47,907 are here in a face-off. 150 00:12:47,908 --> 00:12:51,010 What this says about what's going to happen inside 151 00:12:51,013 --> 00:12:52,479 we'll see. 152 00:13:02,856 --> 00:13:05,390 Mr. Hofer, how will it feel to become Europe's first 153 00:13:05,393 --> 00:13:07,293 far-right leader since the war? 154 00:13:07,294 --> 00:13:09,528 Umm, first of all, I'm not the leader, 155 00:13:09,529 --> 00:13:11,663 and second I'm not far-right. 156 00:13:11,664 --> 00:13:14,265 So why do people describe you as that? 157 00:13:14,268 --> 00:13:16,434 They don't know me. Not yet. 158 00:13:18,337 --> 00:13:21,373 As is tradition in Austria's presidential elections, 159 00:13:21,375 --> 00:13:23,707 the press and both candidates' teams 160 00:13:23,710 --> 00:13:26,110 gather to watch the final debate backstage 161 00:13:26,113 --> 00:13:28,778 while eating wieners and drinking beer. 162 00:13:28,780 --> 00:13:30,947 But what started as a strange Austrian barbecue 163 00:13:30,950 --> 00:13:32,716 gave way to something that was bizarre 164 00:13:32,719 --> 00:13:34,951 even by U.S. standards. 165 00:14:29,538 --> 00:14:31,904 We've just sat through the final presidential debate 166 00:14:31,907 --> 00:14:33,474 before the elections. 167 00:14:33,475 --> 00:14:35,176 The only word that I really understood 168 00:14:35,177 --> 00:14:37,811 throughout the whole thing was the word "Nazi." 169 00:14:37,812 --> 00:14:39,712 We're now sitting in the spin room afterwards 170 00:14:39,715 --> 00:14:41,081 where the two candidates are here. 171 00:14:41,083 --> 00:14:44,083 Hofer, behind me, is sitting around with his team, 172 00:14:44,086 --> 00:14:46,619 smoking cigarettes, drinking glasses of wine. 173 00:14:46,620 --> 00:14:48,520 I've never seen anything really like this. 174 00:14:48,523 --> 00:14:52,325 Some people have described you as an anti-establishment figure. 175 00:14:52,326 --> 00:14:54,059 Is that accurate? 176 00:15:15,682 --> 00:15:18,615 What happens in the end of this--this campaign? 177 00:15:18,618 --> 00:15:20,985 The people, they will, uh, vote. 178 00:16:23,580 --> 00:16:24,610 Wow. 179 00:16:24,613 --> 00:16:26,647 I mean, people are crying here. 180 00:16:26,649 --> 00:16:29,081 It's clear that it means so much to people. 181 00:16:29,084 --> 00:16:32,018 Does this feel like a different Austria now? 182 00:16:32,019 --> 00:16:33,919 No, because I know that there's still, 183 00:16:33,922 --> 00:16:37,658 like, nearly 50% who voted for Hofer, so... 184 00:16:37,659 --> 00:16:39,058 No. Actually, you have-- 185 00:16:39,061 --> 00:16:41,726 you still have to consider, actually there is 186 00:16:41,729 --> 00:16:44,062 50% super racist people in Austria. 187 00:16:44,065 --> 00:16:46,499 While Hofer lost in Austria, 188 00:16:46,500 --> 00:16:49,868 the fierce political divide has spread across Europe. 189 00:16:49,870 --> 00:16:52,304 In France, a formerly fringe candidate, 190 00:16:52,307 --> 00:16:54,440 Marine Le Pen, came in second place 191 00:16:54,442 --> 00:16:56,174 on an anti-immigration platform 192 00:16:56,177 --> 00:16:58,610 that could have seen France leave the EU. 193 00:17:04,850 --> 00:17:07,519 But the most important election will be in Germany, 194 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,754 the unofficial leader of the EU, 195 00:17:09,755 --> 00:17:11,556 which took in more refugees 196 00:17:11,557 --> 00:17:13,725 than any other European country. 197 00:17:13,726 --> 00:17:15,658 As a result, the once peripheral 198 00:17:15,661 --> 00:17:18,761 far-right populist AfD party emerged 199 00:17:18,764 --> 00:17:21,965 in direct opposition to Chancellor Angela Merkel. 200 00:17:29,542 --> 00:17:31,107 Since World War II, 201 00:17:31,110 --> 00:17:33,775 being ultra-right-wing has been taboo in Germany, 202 00:17:33,778 --> 00:17:35,544 yet the AfD is gaining power 203 00:17:35,547 --> 00:17:38,114 by exploiting the sharp increase in conflicts 204 00:17:38,115 --> 00:17:40,482 between refugees and locals. 205 00:17:40,485 --> 00:17:43,952 In 2016, the German Ministry of Interior 206 00:17:43,955 --> 00:17:46,355 reported more than 3 1/2 thousand attacks 207 00:17:46,357 --> 00:17:49,824 on refugees and shelters throughout the country. 208 00:17:50,861 --> 00:17:52,594 The rural town of Bautzen, 209 00:17:52,596 --> 00:17:54,028 is capturing headlines 210 00:17:54,029 --> 00:17:55,930 with particularly violent clashes. 211 00:17:55,932 --> 00:17:58,866 Onlookers celebrated as a fire ripped through 212 00:17:58,868 --> 00:18:00,868 a former hotel that was being converted 213 00:18:00,871 --> 00:18:02,871 into a shelter for refugees. 214 00:18:15,917 --> 00:18:18,050 Sebastian Berg is well connected 215 00:18:18,052 --> 00:18:20,186 with the local right wing community. 216 00:18:20,189 --> 00:18:23,156 We joined him and his local AfD representative 217 00:18:23,159 --> 00:18:25,191 on a tour of the embattled town. 218 00:18:42,209 --> 00:18:44,309 While the right wing claims that locals need 219 00:18:44,311 --> 00:18:46,178 to protect themselves from refugees, 220 00:18:46,180 --> 00:18:48,380 the town's largest refugee center 221 00:18:48,382 --> 00:18:49,914 had to build its own fence 222 00:18:49,916 --> 00:18:52,817 to protect the refugees from angry locals. 223 00:18:52,819 --> 00:18:56,689 What's the problem with a place like this? 224 00:19:24,215 --> 00:19:26,115 We went to meet some of the refugees 225 00:19:26,116 --> 00:19:28,284 that the locals were living in fear of. 226 00:19:32,490 --> 00:19:35,289 While the majority of migrants we saw were families, 227 00:19:35,291 --> 00:19:37,826 much of the fear is of single young men. 228 00:19:37,828 --> 00:19:40,095 Firas has mastered the language, 229 00:19:40,096 --> 00:19:41,663 but is still facing backlash 230 00:19:41,665 --> 00:19:44,799 as he tries to integrate into society. 231 00:20:16,097 --> 00:20:17,364 Hello, how are you? 232 00:20:17,365 --> 00:20:18,865 - How are you? - Nice to meet you. 233 00:20:18,867 --> 00:20:20,366 - Yeah. - I'm Ben. 234 00:20:20,368 --> 00:20:22,934 This young family fled the resulting chaos 235 00:20:22,936 --> 00:20:24,569 of the U.S. war in Iraq. 236 00:20:24,572 --> 00:20:26,005 Why are you here? 237 00:21:06,211 --> 00:21:08,711 Mama. 238 00:21:10,382 --> 00:21:14,215 With over a million refugees settled in Germany since 2015, 239 00:21:14,218 --> 00:21:17,052 and anti-immigrant sentiment on the rise, 240 00:21:17,055 --> 00:21:19,188 the AfD and their leader, 241 00:21:19,190 --> 00:21:21,289 Frauke Petry, are using the issue 242 00:21:21,291 --> 00:21:24,594 in their bid to unseat Chancellor Angela Merkel. 243 00:21:24,596 --> 00:21:26,663 Do you think Angela Merkel has improved Germany 244 00:21:26,664 --> 00:21:29,566 - since her time in power? - No, I don't think she has. 245 00:21:29,567 --> 00:21:32,099 Because she opened the border for illegal migration, 246 00:21:32,102 --> 00:21:35,503 to more than a million people in 2015. 247 00:21:35,506 --> 00:21:39,540 Many of them cannot read, have not finished school. 248 00:21:39,542 --> 00:21:41,643 Many of them will be completely dependent 249 00:21:41,644 --> 00:21:44,645 for the rest of their lives on social benefits, 250 00:21:44,647 --> 00:21:46,615 and if government tells us, 251 00:21:46,616 --> 00:21:50,049 as Merkel did in Autumn 2015, 252 00:21:50,051 --> 00:21:52,787 that we do not have the control about our borders, 253 00:21:52,788 --> 00:21:55,957 we don't have the control about who lives in German, 254 00:21:55,959 --> 00:21:59,393 that is basically the complete failing of a state. 255 00:21:59,394 --> 00:22:01,428 Why was immigration a central policy 256 00:22:01,430 --> 00:22:04,030 for Trump and for BREXIT 257 00:22:04,032 --> 00:22:06,132 and for the AfD here in Germany? 258 00:22:06,134 --> 00:22:08,166 Immigration was not 259 00:22:08,169 --> 00:22:10,503 a central topic when we started-- 260 00:22:10,506 --> 00:22:12,137 But it's become one for you, personally. 261 00:22:12,140 --> 00:22:13,271 It's become more important 262 00:22:13,273 --> 00:22:15,842 because situation changed dramatically. 263 00:22:15,844 --> 00:22:16,977 Why do you think there's an appetite 264 00:22:16,979 --> 00:22:19,679 for anti-establishment politics in Germany now? 265 00:22:19,681 --> 00:22:22,548 We have many statistics seen over the last couple of years 266 00:22:22,549 --> 00:22:25,483 of people not trusting politicians anymore. 267 00:22:27,054 --> 00:22:30,322 What did politics do over the last couple of decades 268 00:22:30,324 --> 00:22:32,324 to make people feel excluded? 269 00:22:35,962 --> 00:22:38,329 I think many citizens are fed up 270 00:22:38,332 --> 00:22:41,132 with politicians not talking to them, 271 00:22:41,134 --> 00:22:43,000 but talking about them 272 00:22:43,002 --> 00:22:45,269 and not taking them seriously, 273 00:22:45,270 --> 00:22:49,373 and that is something that many people in Europe do not like. 274 00:22:49,375 --> 00:22:51,442 So, yes, I think it gains momentum, 275 00:22:51,443 --> 00:22:52,777 and I hope it will gain even more. 276 00:22:58,616 --> 00:23:00,349 "Vice" has been following the rise 277 00:23:00,352 --> 00:23:02,752 of the far-right in Europe for many years. 278 00:23:02,755 --> 00:23:03,886 We watched and reported 279 00:23:03,888 --> 00:23:05,454 as nationalism exploded 280 00:23:05,457 --> 00:23:07,457 in response to the migrant crisis 281 00:23:07,459 --> 00:23:09,092 currently facing Europe. 282 00:23:16,299 --> 00:23:18,000 You wanna keep the Greek race clean. 283 00:23:19,971 --> 00:23:22,371 Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi 284 00:23:22,373 --> 00:23:25,273 was in many ways modern Europe's original populist. 285 00:23:25,276 --> 00:23:28,309 He gained massive support from Italian media outlets, 286 00:23:28,311 --> 00:23:29,611 many of which he owned, 287 00:23:29,613 --> 00:23:31,779 and cultivated a large political base 288 00:23:31,781 --> 00:23:35,683 by clamping down on immigration and embracing isolationism. 289 00:23:39,923 --> 00:23:41,690 I met him at his home in Italy 290 00:23:41,692 --> 00:23:43,724 to talk about what the future holds 291 00:23:43,727 --> 00:23:45,993 for European politics. 292 00:24:36,644 --> 00:24:39,977 Former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi 293 00:24:39,979 --> 00:24:41,612 is one of the most outspoken critics 294 00:24:41,614 --> 00:24:43,146 of allowing immigrants from Syria 295 00:24:43,148 --> 00:24:46,750 and other war-torn countries into Europe. 296 00:24:46,752 --> 00:24:48,285 The former leader of Italy was 297 00:24:48,287 --> 00:24:49,854 the longest sitting prime minster 298 00:24:49,855 --> 00:24:51,387 in modern Italian history, 299 00:24:51,390 --> 00:24:53,023 and though his political career was marred 300 00:24:53,026 --> 00:24:55,191 with controversy, fraud, and scandal... 301 00:25:02,599 --> 00:25:05,634 He was also one of the original far-right candidates, 302 00:25:05,636 --> 00:25:08,237 using fear of immigration to great success, 303 00:25:08,239 --> 00:25:11,707 which set the mold for other populous candidates in Europe. 304 00:25:11,709 --> 00:25:14,643 So you look at what happened in Austria recently, 305 00:25:14,644 --> 00:25:17,913 a far-right party came second, but nearly came first, 306 00:25:17,914 --> 00:25:20,648 and now you have the rise of the far-right in Germany. 307 00:25:20,651 --> 00:25:22,084 Should Europe be worried 308 00:25:22,086 --> 00:25:23,719 about this sort of rise of the far-right 309 00:25:23,721 --> 00:25:25,887 in Austria and Germany? 310 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,314 Now what we've seen this season is that 311 00:25:54,316 --> 00:25:57,616 this anger is often rooted in the immigration issue, 312 00:25:57,618 --> 00:26:01,287 and it's not just Hungary, Austria, and Germany... 313 00:26:01,288 --> 00:26:03,221 Oh, shit. 314 00:26:03,223 --> 00:26:06,157 But also in France where opposition has surged 315 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,961 against the migrant population, 316 00:26:08,962 --> 00:26:11,196 and here in Berlusconi's home country of Italy, 317 00:26:11,199 --> 00:26:13,464 hundreds of thousands of refugees 318 00:26:13,467 --> 00:26:14,834 cross the Mediterranean 319 00:26:14,836 --> 00:26:16,634 to begin their long journey north 320 00:26:16,636 --> 00:26:18,537 into the EU. 321 00:26:18,538 --> 00:26:21,338 You have millions of people coming from Syria, 322 00:26:21,340 --> 00:26:24,508 from North Africa, from Afghanistan. 323 00:26:24,509 --> 00:26:26,211 Italy is on the frontlines. 324 00:26:26,212 --> 00:26:28,813 How much is it affecting Italian politics? 325 00:26:28,815 --> 00:26:31,648 But even larger, how much is this affecting 326 00:26:31,651 --> 00:26:33,517 politics in Europe? 327 00:27:13,123 --> 00:27:15,690 Now what he means when he references the Marshall Plan 328 00:27:15,692 --> 00:27:19,227 is approximately the $130 billion aid project, 329 00:27:19,229 --> 00:27:21,229 which rebuilt war-devastated regions 330 00:27:21,230 --> 00:27:24,665 of Western Europe in the aftermath of World War II. 331 00:27:24,667 --> 00:27:26,500 Now the idea is that 332 00:27:26,502 --> 00:27:28,335 the only way to stop immigration 333 00:27:28,336 --> 00:27:29,769 is to actually stop the issues 334 00:27:29,771 --> 00:27:32,471 that are causing it at their source. 335 00:27:32,473 --> 00:27:34,842 But while he calls for a unified plan, 336 00:27:34,844 --> 00:27:37,944 other European politicians are running campaigns 337 00:27:37,947 --> 00:27:39,913 for a more divided Europe. 338 00:27:39,915 --> 00:27:42,182 I interviewed Marine Le Pen in 2012 339 00:27:42,184 --> 00:27:45,584 as she first began to declare her anti-immigration 340 00:27:45,586 --> 00:27:47,921 isolationist populist platform. 341 00:28:02,001 --> 00:28:03,801 Le Pen has since made a huge leap 342 00:28:03,804 --> 00:28:05,537 as this formerly French candidate 343 00:28:05,538 --> 00:28:08,307 went on to come in second place in the French elections, 344 00:28:08,308 --> 00:28:11,143 and her party is not backing down. 345 00:28:21,988 --> 00:28:24,688 Europe, America, maybe even the world 346 00:28:24,690 --> 00:28:27,157 has a history of going left and then going right, 347 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,826 and then going left and then going right. 348 00:28:28,827 --> 00:28:31,662 Right now we seem to be taking a step to the right. 349 00:28:31,663 --> 00:28:33,163 Why do you think that is? 350 00:29:31,987 --> 00:29:36,455 Where do you see the future of politics going 351 00:29:36,458 --> 00:29:37,924 in the EU 352 00:29:37,926 --> 00:29:40,359 and what do you worry most about? 353 00:29:40,362 --> 00:29:42,461 What are your biggest fears? 28421

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