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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:06,491 --> 00:01:07,421 ♪ so bring on the light fantastic 2 00:01:07,426 --> 00:01:09,086 ♪ I'll show you 3 00:01:09,094 --> 00:01:10,334 ♪ if you should ask it 4 00:01:10,328 --> 00:01:15,658 ♪ let's dance together till morning ♪ 5 00:01:32,445 --> 00:01:34,605 - got a terrific view of the kick mist 6 00:01:34,614 --> 00:01:38,384 With the cdr now appearing from behind me. 7 00:01:39,316 --> 00:01:40,616 - still... 8 00:01:40,618 --> 00:01:41,848 We are at war. 9 00:01:43,452 --> 00:01:46,592 I'm responsible for the deployment of thousands 10 00:01:46,589 --> 00:01:51,359 Of young americans, to battle in a distant land. 11 00:01:51,359 --> 00:01:53,159 And some will kill. 12 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,760 And some will be killed. 13 00:01:55,762 --> 00:01:58,462 And so I come here with an acute sense 14 00:01:58,464 --> 00:02:01,334 Of the costs of armed conflict. 15 00:02:02,433 --> 00:02:03,773 Filled with difficult questions about 16 00:02:03,768 --> 00:02:06,538 The relationship between war and peace, 17 00:02:06,537 --> 00:02:10,837 And our effort to replace one with the other. 18 00:02:10,841 --> 00:02:13,111 - okay crib we copy that. 19 00:02:13,109 --> 00:02:15,879 We've got tv pictures again. 20 00:02:15,878 --> 00:02:19,608 - hefty, black control systems. 21 00:03:38,947 --> 00:03:41,277 - they were five months into world war I, 22 00:03:41,283 --> 00:03:43,523 Both sides were in trenches. 23 00:03:43,518 --> 00:03:46,448 They were just mass slaughter across the landscape. 24 00:03:46,454 --> 00:03:48,394 Men were standing up sleeping. 25 00:03:48,389 --> 00:03:50,389 They were in their own feces, and their 26 00:03:50,391 --> 00:03:52,921 Dead comrades were sitting there in no man's land. 27 00:03:52,926 --> 00:03:54,486 They couldn't even get them and 28 00:03:54,494 --> 00:03:57,234 Bring them back for burial. 29 00:03:57,230 --> 00:03:59,500 It was christmas eve and the german high command 30 00:03:59,498 --> 00:04:01,528 Had sent little christmas trees. 31 00:04:01,533 --> 00:04:03,273 It was like a stage set, all of a sudden 32 00:04:03,268 --> 00:04:04,628 Across the german front, you saw 33 00:04:04,636 --> 00:04:06,566 These little christmas trees lighting up, 34 00:04:06,571 --> 00:04:09,411 And then the allies heard silent night 35 00:04:09,407 --> 00:04:11,507 Being sung by the germans. 36 00:04:11,509 --> 00:04:13,709 And they started applauding. 37 00:04:15,712 --> 00:04:17,382 And then all of a sudden a couple of guys 38 00:04:17,381 --> 00:04:19,611 On both sides get out of the trenches 39 00:04:19,616 --> 00:04:22,246 Areat war, who turned blood into gold. 69 00:06:15,407 --> 00:06:19,877 And their profits were as secret as they were immense. 70 00:06:19,879 --> 00:06:23,709 All of them are looking ahead to war. 71 00:06:33,357 --> 00:06:36,387 - I stand before you tonight 72 00:06:36,394 --> 00:06:39,634 In my red star chiffon evening gown... 73 00:06:49,704 --> 00:06:53,944 My face softly made up, and my fair hair gently waved. 74 00:06:58,877 --> 00:07:02,007 The iron lady of the western world. 75 00:07:03,915 --> 00%he trenches. 47 00:04:37,396 --> 00:04:39,956 Then thousands get out of the trenches, 48 00:04:39,965 --> 00:04:43,965 And they embraced each other, 100,000 men. 49 00:04:43,969 --> 00:04:46,839 - All no man's land as far as we could see. 50 00:04:46,838 --> 00:04:48,538 It was grey and cocky. 51 00:04:48,539 --> 00:04:50,669 The early were smoking and talking. 52 00:04:50,674 --> 00:04:53,474 Shaking hands, exchanging names and 53 00:04:53,476 --> 00:04:56,536 Addresses for after the war, to write to one another. 54 00:05:11,924 --> 00:05:14,564 - everybody back in your trenches, you know. 55 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,300 And shouting, the generals behind must have seen it, 56 00:05:18,297 --> 00:05:19,927 And got a bit suspicious. 57 00:05:19,931 --> 00:05:22,431 So what they did, they gave orders 58 00:05:22,433 --> 00:05:25,703 For a battery of guns behind us to fire. 59 00:05:25,702 --> 00:05:30,442 And officers fired their revolvers at the gerry's, you know. 60 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,870 Course that started the war again. 61 00:05:32,875 --> 00:05:35,935 Woah we were crushing 'em to hell. 62 00:05:39,881 --> 00:05:44,421 - this was a war to end all wars. 63 00:05:44,418 --> 00:05:48,648 This was the war to make the world safe for democracy. 64 00:05:50,054 --> 00:05:54,494 At least 21,000 new millionaires were made in the u.S. 65 00:05:55,625 --> 00:05:59,525 Billions and billions of dollars would be piled up by a few. 66 00:06:01,062 --> 00:06:04,862 Munition makers, ship builders, meat packers. 67 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,470 And let us not forget the bankers, 68 00:06:08,469 --> 00:06:12,639 Who financed the great war, who turned blood into gold. 69 00:06:15,407 --> 00:06:19,877 And their profits were as secret as they were immense. 70 00:06:19,879 --> 00:06:23,709 All of them are looking ahead to war. 71 00:06:33,357 --> 00:06:36,387 - I stand before you tonight 72 00:06:36,394 --> 00:06:39,634 In my red star chiffon evening gown... 73 00:06:49,704 --> 00:06:53,944 My face softly made up, and my fair hair gently waved. 74 00:06:58,877 --> 00:07:02,007 The iron lady of the western world. 75 00:07:03,915 --> 00:07:05,645 - the al-yamamah deal was this 76 00:07:05,650 --> 00:07:07,850 Extraordinary deal between the united kingdom 77 00:07:07,852 --> 00:07:11,392 And saudi arabia, in which ronald regean wanted to 78 00:07:11,388 --> 00:07:13,818 Sell the saudis billions and billions 79 00:07:13,823 --> 00:07:16,663 Dollars worth of equipment. 80 00:07:16,659 --> 00:07:18,729 But the israeli lobby stopped it. 81 00:07:18,727 --> 00:07:20,427 And congress wouldn't approve it, 82 00:07:20,428 --> 00:07:23,798 Because they feared arming saudi would threaten israel. 83 00:07:23,798 --> 00:07:27,028 So ronald reagan handed the deal over, effectively, 84 00:07:27,034 --> 00:07:29,774 To his political soul mate, margaret thatcher. 85 00:07:29,770 --> 00:07:31,570 - You ain't seen nothing yet. 86 00:07:33,439 --> 00:07:35,569 - You are a very tough act to follow. 87 00:07:47,782 --> 00:07:50,782 - When we stumbled on the saudi arms deal, 88 00:07:50,786 --> 00:07:53,816 The al-yamamah arms deal, we really started 89 00:07:53,822 --> 00:07:57,862 To stumble on a central feature of british politics, 90 00:07:57,859 --> 00:07:59,689 Over the last 30 years. 91 00:07:59,694 --> 00:08:02,064 - His royal highness, prince bandar, 92 00:08:02,063 --> 00:08:04,733 Has been at the heart of many of the great world 93 00:08:04,732 --> 00:08:06,932 Events of the past 30 years. 94 00:08:08,768 --> 00:08:12,398 I was always pleased to see him when I was prime minister, 95 00:08:12,405 --> 00:08:14,065 Because he brought me extraordinary 96 00:08:14,073 --> 00:08:16,673 Insights and bold proposals. 97 00:08:22,545 --> 00:08:24,075 - she informed us, she considered 98 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,680 Saudi arabia as a strong friend, and would 99 00:08:26,682 --> 00:08:28,422 Be willing to support the kingdom 100 00:08:28,417 --> 00:08:29,917 With whatever the kingdom needs. 101 00:08:29,918 --> 00:08:31,578 End of discussion, from there on everything 102 00:08:31,586 --> 00:08:33,786 Else was technical. 103 00:08:33,788 --> 00:08:35,448 - He explained to mrs. Thatcher that 104 00:08:35,456 --> 00:08:37,456 This was a deal with saudi arabia, 105 00:08:37,458 --> 00:08:40,988 And therefore things would end differently. 106 00:08:42,829 --> 00:08:47,159 They wanted 43 billion pounds worth of weaponry. 107 00:08:47,166 --> 00:08:50,866 That was 6 billion pounds in commissions. 108 00:08:52,970 --> 00:08:57,770 The vast majority, or what most people understand as bribes. 109 00:08:59,777 --> 00:09:02,837 - We will continue to work together against the terrorists, 110 00:09:02,846 --> 00:09:06,846 Who threaten the way of life of our citizens. 111 00:09:09,585 --> 00:09:13,815 Was a man called eddy cunningham, actually. 112 00:09:13,822 --> 00:09:17,522 He said, "I've been working for a travel company, 113 00:09:17,525 --> 00:09:20,585 "and we had a kind of slush fund, we use 114 00:09:20,594 --> 00:09:23,134 "to distribute to saudis and other arabs 115 00:09:23,129 --> 00:09:25,659 "when they came to britain, for bae, 116 00:09:25,665 --> 00:09:28,765 "all to help the path of arms deals along." 117 00:09:32,804 --> 00:09:36,974 When saudi military officers would come along, 118 00:09:36,974 --> 00:09:39,944 He would present them with canteens of cutlery, 119 00:09:39,943 --> 00:09:41,983 That was something that they liked. 120 00:09:41,978 --> 00:09:44,208 Another thing they liked was girls, 121 00:09:44,213 --> 00:09:46,353 So he would take them out on the town, 122 00:09:46,348 --> 00:09:47,978 And get them girls. 123 00:09:49,315 --> 00:09:52,145 - To be honest, it seemed like quite small beer. 124 00:09:52,152 --> 00:09:53,682 Payments made, some of them for 125 00:09:53,686 --> 00:09:55,946 Rather un-islamic activities. 126 00:09:57,087 --> 00:10:00,617 Gaming chips, there were talks about call girls, 127 00:10:00,624 --> 00:10:04,994 - There's only two things that count in business my friend. 128 00:10:04,995 --> 00:10:06,185 Money and sex. 129 00:10:06,196 --> 00:10:09,626 The rest, you can write as much as you like, 130 00:10:09,632 --> 00:10:11,872 Is absolute garbage. 131 00:10:11,867 --> 00:10:16,097 You can make a weapon beautiful, depends on your secretary. 132 00:10:17,971 --> 00:10:20,071 Because, they are more distracted 133 00:10:20,074 --> 00:10:21,774 Looking at your secretary's ass 134 00:10:21,775 --> 00:10:24,705 Than thinking what the hell you're talking about. 135 00:10:24,711 --> 00:10:28,611 And that is, sometimes, all the edge you need. 136 00:10:33,050 --> 00:10:36,680 I had to use an escort agency called blue orchids, 137 00:10:36,686 --> 00:10:38,686 Because of the special taste of 138 00:10:38,688 --> 00:10:40,288 The chief of staff of the army, 139 00:10:40,289 --> 00:10:44,019 Who liked blondes with silicone tits. 140 00:10:44,026 --> 00:10:46,086 We had their secretary of the embassy 141 00:10:46,094 --> 00:10:48,164 Come and review the photos. 142 00:10:48,162 --> 00:10:49,932 And he said, "I want this one, I want this one, 143 00:10:49,930 --> 00:10:52,130 "I want this one, I want this one." 144 00:10:52,132 --> 00:10:54,902 I had the girls I arrived with one day before. 145 00:10:54,901 --> 00:10:56,831 And I said, girls, I know you've all been paid 146 00:10:56,836 --> 00:10:59,096 Handsomely for this but, do me a favor, 147 00:10:59,104 --> 00:11:01,244 If you get any pillow talk that is relevant 148 00:11:01,239 --> 00:11:04,069 Please bring it across because I could use it. 149 00:11:04,075 --> 00:11:06,275 And for each, interesting information, 150 00:11:06,277 --> 00:11:08,937 I will give another 3,000 year bonus. 151 00:11:08,946 --> 00:11:12,076 So with 60 grand, I signed a contract worth three million. 152 00:11:12,082 --> 00:11:13,982 So it wasn't bad deal. 153 00:11:14,782 --> 00:11:16,752 - And then my phone rang again, 154 00:11:16,751 --> 00:11:19,851 And it was another whistle blower and he said, 155 00:11:19,854 --> 00:11:24,094 "you have no idea what it is that you're getting into here." 156 00:11:25,824 --> 00:11:27,724 And he said, "this slush fund is much, much 157 00:11:27,726 --> 00:11:33,026 Our job was to look after the really high level people. 158 00:11:33,031 --> 00:11:34,861 Those who used to come to England, 159 00:11:34,866 --> 00:11:37,926 Who were being bribed, essentially, by bae, 160 00:11:37,935 --> 00:11:39,365 Were people of the level of the head of 161 00:11:39,369 --> 00:11:43,799 The saudi air force, who was a royal prince. 162 00:11:43,806 --> 00:11:45,666 We would fly them to los angeles, 163 00:11:45,674 --> 00:11:48,144 And they would buy cars and dresses, 164 00:11:48,143 --> 00:11:50,783 And it wasn't shopping like you and I would think. 165 00:11:50,778 --> 00:11:53,038 In the end, when they gathered together all 166 00:11:53,046 --> 00:11:56,176 Their shopping, we would charter an entire jumbo jet 167 00:11:56,182 --> 00:11:59,722 To fly it all back to saudi arabia. 168 00:11:59,718 --> 00:12:02,348 - It was an attempt to try and trace through 169 00:12:02,353 --> 00:12:05,923 The bank accounts who the ultimate beneficiaries are 170 00:12:05,923 --> 00:12:09,023 That the case became really very serious, 171 00:12:09,026 --> 00:12:11,056 As the trail appeared to lead towards 172 00:12:11,061 --> 00:12:14,331 Senior members of the saudi royal family. 173 00:12:16,130 --> 00:12:20,170 - the most outrageous example was that bae, 174 00:12:20,168 --> 00:12:23,998 In order to smooth the way with prince bandar, 175 00:12:24,005 --> 00:12:26,935 At one point made him a president of a huge 176 00:12:26,941 --> 00:12:29,811 Commercial airliner, all of his very own. 177 00:12:29,810 --> 00:12:32,040 Which he promptly had painted in the grey 178 00:12:32,045 --> 00:12:34,345 And silver colors of the dallas cowboys, 179 00:12:34,347 --> 00:12:37,007 Who were his favorite american team. 180 00:12:37,016 --> 00:12:40,076 And he used to fly around in that, quite cheerfully. 181 00:12:43,221 --> 00:12:46,091 - The case centered on establishing the 182 00:12:46,090 --> 00:12:50,090 Ultimate beneficiaries of exceptionally 183 00:12:50,094 --> 00:12:54,164 Large amounts of money paid by british aerospace 184 00:12:55,030 --> 00:12:57,160 For consultancy services. 185 00:12:59,967 --> 00:13:01,427 - there's evidence that mark thatcher, 186 00:13:01,436 --> 00:13:04,796 Mrs. Thatcher's son, got 12 million in cash 187 00:13:04,806 --> 00:13:07,006 For his work as a fixer. 188 00:13:17,817 --> 00:13:20,217 - This is a fire nine mill. 189 00:13:21,053 --> 00:13:23,223 It's okay, it's not loaded. 190 00:13:23,222 --> 00:13:24,922 Don't worry. 191 00:13:24,923 --> 00:13:27,393 It's a very beautiful weapon, it's austrian made. 192 00:13:27,392 --> 00:13:29,092 If you want to sell on the market, 193 00:13:29,093 --> 00:13:32,493 And you're looking probably at about 3,500 euros. 194 00:13:32,496 --> 00:13:34,196 - and why do you keep it in the house? 195 00:13:34,197 --> 00:13:36,757 - because I'm a soldier. 196 00:13:36,766 --> 00:13:39,366 - and you can do that legally? 197 00:13:39,368 --> 00:13:43,168 - Yes and no, but yeah, more or less you can. 198 00:13:43,171 --> 00:13:45,871 As long as it's in the house. 199 00:13:47,073 --> 00:13:50,083 And you don't shoot the cat of the neighbor. 200 00:13:50,077 --> 00:13:52,107 I got nothing against money, I don't mind paying 201 00:13:52,112 --> 00:13:55,212 Bribes to politicians, it's part of the deal. 202 00:13:55,215 --> 00:13:57,105 The thing about politicians is that 203 00:13:57,116 --> 00:13:58,946 They're very much like prostitutes, 204 00:13:58,951 --> 00:14:01,021 But only more expensive. 205 00:14:03,286 --> 00:14:07,156 The politics is dictated by the whims of the arms industry. 206 00:14:07,157 --> 00:14:10,987 Politicians are nothing more than sales reps my dear friend. 207 00:14:10,994 --> 00:14:12,834 They have as much power as a middle 208 00:14:12,829 --> 00:14:15,359 Ranking executive in lockheed martin. 209 00:14:15,364 --> 00:14:19,234 At the end of the day they do what they're told. 210 00:14:24,170 --> 00:14:26,370 - when an executive goes to bribe 211 00:14:26,373 --> 00:14:28,913 A foreign official, he says to himself, 212 00:14:28,908 --> 00:14:31,238 Look I've taken a lot of risk to take this 213 00:14:31,243 --> 00:14:32,543 Five million dollars, that I'm 214 00:14:32,544 --> 00:14:36,214 Paying to the prime minister of xyz. 215 00:14:36,214 --> 00:14:40,324 He makes an arrangement with prime minister of xyz. 216 00:14:40,318 --> 00:14:42,988 I'll hand over the five million, 217 00:14:42,987 --> 00:14:44,817 But you take half of that five million, 218 00:14:44,822 --> 00:14:46,252 And you send it to the following 219 00:14:46,256 --> 00:14:48,286 Bank account in switzerland. 220 00:14:48,291 --> 00:14:50,491 We'll share in this largess. 221 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,460 The first time an executive does that, 222 00:14:54,463 --> 00:14:57,403 And he collects 2.5 million dollars, 223 00:14:57,399 --> 00:15:00,929 He says, "wow, this is a good business to be in." 224 00:15:00,935 --> 00:15:03,295 And within moments of that realization, 225 00:15:03,304 --> 00:15:07,074 He is now no longer in the business of selling airplanes, 226 00:15:07,074 --> 00:15:09,274 He's in the business of selling bribes. 227 00:15:09,276 --> 00:15:10,906 And he's now scouring the world 228 00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:13,280 For somebody to find to bribe. 229 00:15:21,584 --> 00:15:23,154 ♪ regrets 230 00:15:23,153 --> 00:15:26,193 ♪ and I've had a few 231 00:15:26,189 --> 00:15:28,919 ♪ but then again 232 00:15:28,925 --> 00:15:32,325 ♪ too few to mention 233 00:15:32,328 --> 00:15:34,288 ♪ I did 234 00:15:34,296 --> 00:15:37,296 ♪ what I had to do 235 00:15:37,299 --> 00:15:40,569 ♪ and saw it through 236 00:15:40,568 --> 00:15:44,098 ♪ without exemption 237 00:15:44,104 --> 00:15:46,144 ♪ I planned 238 00:15:46,139 --> 00:15:49,009 ♪ each chartered course 239 00:15:49,008 --> 00:15:52,008 ♪ each careful step 240 00:15:52,011 --> 00:15:55,351 ♪ along the by-way 241 00:15:55,347 --> 00:15:57,447 ♪ and more 242 00:15:57,449 --> 00:16:00,249 ♪ much more than this 243 00:16:00,251 --> 00:16:02,881 ♪ I did it 244 00:16:02,886 --> 00:16:06,246 ♪ my way 245 00:16:06,256 --> 00:16:08,386 - And then the phone rang again. 246 00:16:08,391 --> 00:16:10,921 And this was somebody who said, "you have 247 00:16:10,926 --> 00:16:13,356 "no idea what you're getting into." 248 00:16:13,361 --> 00:16:16,101 He said, "this whole bae thing is much, 249 00:16:16,097 --> 00:16:19,227 "much bigger, goes right to the very top." 250 00:16:19,233 --> 00:16:21,073 What he had was something that you 251 00:16:21,068 --> 00:16:22,898 Never see as a journalist. 252 00:16:22,903 --> 00:16:27,073 Swiss bank records of international covert payments, 253 00:16:27,073 --> 00:16:28,673 Going all over the world. 254 00:16:28,674 --> 00:16:32,114 He showed me how bae had set up a whole system 255 00:16:32,110 --> 00:16:34,440 With lloyds bank, under which they channeled 256 00:16:34,445 --> 00:16:37,905 Secret payments into the british virgin islands 257 00:16:37,915 --> 00:16:40,945 Offshore company called red diamond. 258 00:16:40,951 --> 00:16:43,381 And from red diamond the money went into 259 00:16:43,386 --> 00:16:45,546 This guy's swiss bank account, and he 260 00:16:45,554 --> 00:16:49,324 Then used it to distribute to the local politicians, 261 00:16:49,324 --> 00:16:51,594 Taking a big chunk for himself of course. 262 00:16:51,592 --> 00:16:54,062 - I mean I can certainly assure you, 263 00:16:54,061 --> 00:16:56,361 I mean that we, and I believe most companies 264 00:16:56,363 --> 00:16:58,933 Are not in the business of making payments 265 00:16:58,932 --> 00:17:01,372 Passing, as you suggest, large sums of money 266 00:17:01,367 --> 00:17:07,067 I mean it is just not the way me business is done. 267 00:17:08,972 --> 00:17:10,372 - We were actually able to publish 268 00:17:10,374 --> 00:17:13,444 What was our most dangerous story, that prince bandar 269 00:17:13,443 --> 00:17:16,013 Had been given not just a plane, 270 00:17:16,012 --> 00:17:19,712 But over the years, a total of one billion pounds. 271 00:17:19,715 --> 00:17:21,375 - We did not invent 272 00:17:23,317 --> 00:17:24,517 Corruption. 273 00:17:24,519 --> 00:17:26,289 I mean adam and eve were in heaven, 274 00:17:26,287 --> 00:17:27,547 And they had hanky-panky and they had to 275 00:17:27,554 --> 00:17:29,094 Go down to earth, so... 276 00:17:29,088 --> 00:17:31,188 And this is human nature. 277 00:17:31,190 --> 00:17:34,020 - I salute a prince, a statesman, 278 00:17:35,292 --> 00:17:37,462 And a friend. 279 00:17:39,361 --> 00:17:41,401 - What is greed? 280 00:17:41,397 --> 00:17:42,557 Of course none of us are greedy, 281 00:17:42,564 --> 00:17:44,264 It's only the other fella who's greedy. 282 00:17:46,100 --> 00:17:47,030 This... 283 00:17:47,034 --> 00:17:49,334 The world runs on individual's 284 00:17:49,336 --> 00:17:52,236 Pursuing their separate interests. 285 00:17:53,304 --> 00:17:55,544 - All those people who believe that greed, 286 00:17:55,541 --> 00:17:57,371 Violence, et cetera, these primal, 287 00:17:57,376 --> 00:18:01,336 So called primal instincts, are the real instincts, 288 00:18:01,346 --> 00:18:03,576 And everything else is a social construction, 289 00:18:03,581 --> 00:18:05,551 They've lost their mind. 290 00:18:05,549 --> 00:18:08,449 And for the last 50 years, at least, 291 00:18:08,451 --> 00:18:11,721 Policy has been made based on the assumption of greed. 292 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,420 And it's ruined the world. 293 00:18:13,421 --> 00:18:14,321 - Alright. 294 00:18:15,220 --> 00:18:17,120 - Mr. Reagan, if you would. 295 00:18:17,122 --> 00:18:21,462 - Patronites believe there is no nature of society, 296 00:18:21,459 --> 00:18:23,829 So we have to nurture individualism. 297 00:18:23,828 --> 00:18:25,428 I don't accept that at all. 298 00:18:25,429 --> 00:18:28,229 I think there are very many, good public 299 00:18:28,231 --> 00:18:31,531 Policy initiatives for creating society. 300 00:18:33,135 --> 00:18:34,195 Welcome to beirut. 301 00:18:34,202 --> 00:18:35,502 They are saying hello to you. 302 00:18:36,871 --> 00:18:39,501 There's a combination ak-47 kalashnikov. 303 00:18:41,808 --> 00:18:43,668 A society that decides that the bulk 304 00:18:43,676 --> 00:18:47,436 Of it's budget is going to go to arms manufacturing, 305 00:18:47,446 --> 00:18:49,206 Building up a military, et cetera, 306 00:18:49,214 --> 00:18:51,454 They have made a moral decision. 307 00:18:51,449 --> 00:18:54,249 That militarism is more important 308 00:18:54,251 --> 00:18:58,221 Than the creation of well-being for the population. 309 00:19:02,658 --> 00:19:04,558 It's not the world I want to live in. 310 00:19:04,559 --> 00:19:06,459 I want to live in the real world. 311 00:19:06,460 --> 00:19:09,130 And the real world is people by real emotions. 312 00:19:09,129 --> 00:19:11,499 Including love and generosity. 313 00:19:11,498 --> 00:19:14,428 - My god, if you want, is freedom. 314 00:19:14,434 --> 00:19:16,774 The freedom of human beings, of individuals, 315 00:19:16,769 --> 00:19:18,539 To pursue their own values. 316 00:19:18,537 --> 00:19:19,597 - I think what the term freedom 317 00:19:19,604 --> 00:19:22,374 Means is economic license. 318 00:19:22,373 --> 00:19:24,443 And it's the economic license of those 319 00:19:24,441 --> 00:19:27,341 Who control property, and those who control capital, 320 00:19:27,343 --> 00:19:30,583 Has in fact been a threat, not only to equality, 321 00:19:30,579 --> 00:19:32,449 But a threat to the freedom of peoples 322 00:19:32,447 --> 00:19:34,547 All over the world, and not only in europe 323 00:19:34,549 --> 00:19:36,549 And the united states, but in africa, 324 00:19:36,551 --> 00:19:39,591 In asia, and in latin america. 325 00:19:39,587 --> 00:19:41,317 - I want you to name me any society 326 00:19:41,322 --> 00:19:43,622 In which you've had any large measure of that freedom. 327 00:19:43,624 --> 00:19:45,164 Where capitalism and free enterprise 328 00:19:45,158 --> 00:19:47,628 Has not been the predominate mechanism. 329 00:19:47,627 --> 00:19:48,927 - The free enterprise system 330 00:19:48,928 --> 00:19:50,888 Has spread through the force of arms, 331 00:19:50,896 --> 00:19:53,226 And those arms were wielded by governments. 332 00:19:53,231 --> 00:19:54,801 That was government intervention, 333 00:19:54,799 --> 00:19:57,399 Under the name of the free enterprise system, 334 00:19:57,401 --> 00:19:58,871 But a government intervention which destroyed 335 00:19:58,869 --> 00:20:00,599 The freedoms of many people. 336 00:20:00,604 --> 00:20:03,774 Not least of which are the people of chile. 337 00:20:21,522 --> 00:20:24,762 - From the 1950's, all the way through the 1970's, 338 00:20:24,758 --> 00:20:27,488 The cia and the u.S. Military were engaged 339 00:20:27,494 --> 00:20:30,534 In covert actions throughout central and latin america. 340 00:20:30,530 --> 00:20:32,600 Throughout africa, really throughout the world. 341 00:20:32,598 --> 00:20:35,668 Where they were assassinating populist leaders, 342 00:20:35,667 --> 00:20:38,297 They were backing up right-wing military juntas, 343 00:20:38,302 --> 00:20:40,402 Funding and arming death squads, like the 344 00:20:40,404 --> 00:20:44,944 Contras in nicaragua, or battalion 316 in honduras. 345 00:20:44,941 --> 00:20:46,911 And there were these spate of assassinations 346 00:20:46,909 --> 00:20:48,609 Across the globe. 347 00:20:51,579 --> 00:20:53,479 - In countries like mine, people have 348 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,550 Been killed to be quiet. 349 00:20:56,648 --> 00:20:59,318 To know that any day, any time you're going to 350 00:20:59,318 --> 00:21:02,648 Be killed, you don't know how, but it's coming. 351 00:21:06,622 --> 00:21:08,992 We were fighting an oligarch, and still 352 00:21:08,992 --> 00:21:11,892 We are fighting, you know, oligarchs. 353 00:21:11,894 --> 00:21:15,404 Minds that don't want to work on inclusiveness, 354 00:21:15,397 --> 00:21:17,527 But just extraction. 355 00:21:17,532 --> 00:21:19,332 It's not only about taking from the earth, 356 00:21:19,333 --> 00:21:21,003 But taking from the people. 357 00:21:23,970 --> 00:21:26,640 Even your dreams get colonized. 358 00:21:27,972 --> 00:21:31,442 - The last half of what is called the cold war, 359 00:21:31,443 --> 00:21:33,443 Turned out to be a very hot war for 360 00:21:33,445 --> 00:21:35,505 Many parts of the world. 361 00:21:36,713 --> 00:21:39,653 From the standpoint of what iqbal lamet calls 362 00:21:39,650 --> 00:21:44,620 The victims of, what I will think of really as, 363 00:21:44,621 --> 00:21:48,261 Of people trying to make their own futures. 364 00:21:49,390 --> 00:21:51,720 There was an attempt in the global south 365 00:21:51,726 --> 00:21:55,786 To create an alternative imagination for people. 366 00:21:56,962 --> 00:22:00,862 But in the early 1970's, this attempt was destroyed. 367 00:22:00,866 --> 00:22:04,696 And it was stopped through a real, genuine attempt, 368 00:22:04,703 --> 00:22:06,603 By the global law to take over the 369 00:22:06,604 --> 00:22:08,674 Institutions of the world, including 370 00:22:08,672 --> 00:22:10,672 The world bank, the imf. 371 00:22:12,441 --> 00:22:14,681 So, it's not simply that the people 372 00:22:14,677 --> 00:22:17,337 Of the south were incapable of carrying 373 00:22:17,346 --> 00:22:18,946 Forward their dreams. 374 00:22:24,885 --> 00:22:27,485 I use a very strong word. 375 00:22:27,487 --> 00:22:29,987 These dreams were assassinated. 376 00:22:29,989 --> 00:22:32,659 It's not just the one off killings, 377 00:22:32,658 --> 00:22:35,018 The coup here, the coup there. 378 00:22:37,694 --> 00:22:41,804 It's the entire dream that had to be killed. 379 00:24:14,588 --> 00:24:16,818 - The joint hearings of the house select 380 00:24:16,823 --> 00:24:18,793 Committee to investigate covert arms 381 00:24:18,791 --> 00:24:20,891 Transaction with iran. 382 00:24:25,463 --> 00:24:27,833 And the select committee on secret military 383 00:24:27,832 --> 00:24:31,832 Assistance to iran and the nicaraguan opposition. 384 00:24:31,836 --> 00:24:33,636 We will come to order. 385 00:24:33,637 --> 00:24:35,597 - Congress began to address what they perceived 386 00:24:35,605 --> 00:24:38,135 To be an insanely out of control series of covert 387 00:24:38,140 --> 00:24:41,740 Actions with little to no congressional oversight. 388 00:24:41,743 --> 00:24:44,083 - We have been supplying lethal weapons 389 00:24:44,078 --> 00:24:47,648 To terrorist nations, involving the u.S. Government 390 00:24:47,648 --> 00:24:52,078 In military activities in direct contravention of the law. 391 00:24:52,085 --> 00:24:54,445 And lying to the congress. 392 00:24:54,454 --> 00:24:57,794 Now I believe that democracy cannot survive 393 00:24:57,790 --> 00:24:59,660 That kind of abuse. 394 00:25:02,893 --> 00:25:05,663 - And people like dick cheney, and donald rumsfeld, 395 00:25:05,663 --> 00:25:07,733 Who were relatively new to government at the time, 396 00:25:07,731 --> 00:25:09,801 Did not like when congress said we need 397 00:25:09,799 --> 00:25:12,869 To step in and confront the national security state. 398 00:25:12,868 --> 00:25:16,568 And what's become a very out of control kill program. 399 00:25:16,571 --> 00:25:18,971 Cheney then went on, during the reagan years in the 80's 400 00:25:18,973 --> 00:25:21,873 To serve in congress, and when the iran-contra 401 00:25:21,875 --> 00:25:24,905 Scandal broke out into the open, 402 00:25:24,911 --> 00:25:27,511 Cheney did not like congress being involved 403 00:25:27,513 --> 00:25:29,883 With anything that the executive branch was doing. 404 00:25:32,084 --> 00:25:33,784 And you had this utter scandal that 405 00:25:33,785 --> 00:25:36,885 Emanated from the highest echelons of power. 406 00:25:36,888 --> 00:25:38,848 And the reagan administration was acting 407 00:25:38,856 --> 00:25:40,816 As though it had nothing to do with it. 408 00:25:40,824 --> 00:25:42,924 - I've told you all that I know. 409 00:25:42,926 --> 00:25:44,586 And you know, the truth of the matter is, 410 00:25:44,594 --> 00:25:46,764 For quite some long time, all that you knew 411 00:25:46,762 --> 00:25:48,132 Is what I told you. 412 00:25:48,130 --> 00:25:50,060 - did they deceive you? 413 00:25:50,065 --> 00:25:52,695 You didn't answer whether they deceived you. 414 00:25:52,700 --> 00:25:54,700 Mr. President! 415 00:25:55,868 --> 00:25:59,668 - Our witness this morning is mr. Robert mcfarlane, 416 00:25:59,672 --> 00:26:04,142 The former national security advisor to the president. 417 00:26:04,143 --> 00:26:05,913 Mr. Mcfarlane we welcome you to the 418 00:26:05,911 --> 00:26:09,681 Committee and we look forward to your testimony. 419 00:26:11,816 --> 00:26:14,716 - Mr. Mcfarlane, did you have any 420 00:26:14,718 --> 00:26:17,248 Discussion about the possibility 421 00:26:19,721 --> 00:26:23,891 Of, in effect, farming out the whole contra support 422 00:26:23,892 --> 00:26:27,832 Operations in nicaragua to another country, 423 00:26:27,829 --> 00:26:30,059 Which we'll call country one? 424 00:26:30,064 --> 00:26:32,064 - Yes that's correct. 425 00:26:32,066 --> 00:26:35,826 - and did you, in fact, succeed in obtaining 426 00:26:35,836 --> 00:26:39,266 Money from another country, 427 00:26:39,272 --> 00:26:42,712 Which we'll call country two? 428 00:26:44,842 --> 00:26:46,812 - That's correct. 429 00:26:48,012 --> 00:26:51,052 I had the practice of meeting periodically 430 00:26:51,048 --> 00:26:54,048 With the official from country two, 431 00:26:55,217 --> 00:26:57,847 About assistance we could provide. 432 00:26:57,853 --> 00:26:59,923 In some cases arm sales. 433 00:27:01,955 --> 00:27:05,115 And he intended to provide a contribution 434 00:27:05,125 --> 00:27:09,085 Of a million dollars per month, to the contras, 435 00:27:09,095 --> 00:27:11,725 Through the end of the year. 436 00:27:11,730 --> 00:27:13,660 - you have no problems working with the cia? 437 00:27:13,666 --> 00:27:14,926 - We have no problem working with the 438 00:27:14,933 --> 00:27:16,873 United states government, and unless 439 00:27:16,868 --> 00:27:18,698 The cia does not work for the United States 440 00:27:18,703 --> 00:27:20,773 Government, then I think we have a bigger problem. 441 00:27:20,771 --> 00:27:22,741 - There have been occasions where some americans 442 00:27:22,739 --> 00:27:23,969 Have questioned that, as you know. 443 00:27:25,174 --> 00:27:26,374 - Well thank heavens those occasions 444 00:27:26,375 --> 00:27:28,835 Was not in connection with saudi arabia. 445 00:27:42,254 --> 00:27:45,124 - I think that there was a substantial 446 00:27:45,124 --> 00:27:48,164 Shadow government, trying to run 447 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,960 Foreign affairs for the United States. 448 00:27:50,962 --> 00:27:52,832 - These events have been characterized 449 00:27:52,830 --> 00:27:54,800 By some pretty strong statements. 450 00:27:54,798 --> 00:27:57,268 We've heard talk of a grave constitutional crisis, 451 00:27:57,267 --> 00:28:00,197 And even been treated to talk about 452 00:28:00,203 --> 00:28:02,243 A coup in the white house. 453 00:28:02,238 --> 00:28:04,038 - Not only does cheney, sort of, defend 454 00:28:04,039 --> 00:28:07,369 Iran-contra, but he argues that iran-contra 455 00:28:07,375 --> 00:28:09,375 Is actually a model for how the u.S. 456 00:28:09,377 --> 00:28:13,007 Should be conducting it's national security policy. 457 00:28:13,013 --> 00:28:15,783 He is a radical subscriber to this notion 458 00:28:15,782 --> 00:28:17,752 Of the unitary executive. 459 00:28:17,750 --> 00:28:19,050 Effectively what you're doing is saying 460 00:28:19,051 --> 00:28:20,981 On certain parts of american policy 461 00:28:20,986 --> 00:28:25,016 We don't have a democracy, we have a dictatorship. 462 00:28:25,023 --> 00:28:25,993 - As a matter of fact I was... 463 00:28:27,358 --> 00:28:29,928 Very definitely involved in the decisions 464 00:28:29,927 --> 00:28:32,987 About support to the freedom fighters. 465 00:28:32,996 --> 00:28:34,896 My idea to begin with. 466 00:28:36,297 --> 00:28:38,197 - In my opinion there's no justification 467 00:28:38,199 --> 00:28:39,969 For further restrictions on the power 468 00:28:39,967 --> 00:28:42,267 And flexibility of future presidents. 469 00:28:49,874 --> 00:28:52,084 - The national security league today is mostly 470 00:28:52,077 --> 00:28:54,377 Composed of people who hit the revolving 471 00:28:54,379 --> 00:28:57,109 Door multiple times during their life. 472 00:28:57,115 --> 00:28:58,475 - the nomination of richard b. Cheney 473 00:28:58,483 --> 00:29:01,223 To be secretary of defense is confirmed. 474 00:29:01,219 --> 00:29:03,349 - they make a name for themselves in the private 475 00:29:03,354 --> 00:29:07,224 Industry, and then they come into the government. 476 00:29:07,224 --> 00:29:10,234 This revolving door keeps the national security league 477 00:29:10,227 --> 00:29:13,357 Very small, and very wealthy. 478 00:29:13,363 --> 00:29:16,133 And increasing it's wealth as it goes up the chain. 479 00:29:16,132 --> 00:29:18,202 To the extent that then, when you get to the top 480 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,200 As cheney did, then you can become 481 00:29:20,202 --> 00:29:23,872 A member of the plutocracy, that runs the country too. 482 00:29:23,872 --> 00:29:25,142 - This is an impressive crowd. 483 00:29:25,139 --> 00:29:26,839 The have's. 484 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:27,840 And the have more's. 485 00:29:29,075 --> 00:29:32,335 - Cheney commissioned a study, by halliburton, 486 00:29:32,344 --> 00:29:35,854 To find out how much more of the defense department 487 00:29:35,847 --> 00:29:37,107 Could be privatized. 488 00:29:37,114 --> 00:29:38,054 - halliburton. 489 00:29:38,048 --> 00:29:39,948 Proud to serve our troops. 490 00:29:39,949 --> 00:29:42,519 - Halliburton was elated to get this million 491 00:29:42,518 --> 00:29:45,348 Dollar contract, and of course returned 492 00:29:45,354 --> 00:29:47,954 A verdict that, "oh, mr. Secretary, 493 00:29:47,956 --> 00:29:51,116 "lots more of it can be privatized." 494 00:29:56,327 --> 00:29:58,187 - Dick cheney leaves the defense department 495 00:29:58,196 --> 00:30:00,096 And goes and heads halliburton himself. 496 00:30:00,097 --> 00:30:02,257 And he spends the entire 1990's, building 497 00:30:02,265 --> 00:30:05,225 Up the halliburton war empire. 498 00:30:05,234 --> 00:30:07,804 - Well, if we're gonna talk about star wars, 499 00:30:07,803 --> 00:30:09,843 We might as well invite darth vader. 500 00:30:18,110 --> 00:30:20,410 I'm happy to accept. 501 00:30:20,413 --> 00:30:23,083 - Then he comes back into power as vice president, 502 00:30:23,082 --> 00:30:25,852 And then they start hiring halliburton to... 503 00:30:25,851 --> 00:30:28,791 In advance even of u.S. Troops going in to iraq, 504 00:30:28,787 --> 00:30:30,817 Halliburton personnel and equipment was 505 00:30:30,822 --> 00:30:32,192 Being deployed to the gulf. 506 00:30:32,190 --> 00:30:34,020 It's hard to look at this and not say, 507 00:30:34,025 --> 00:30:36,455 These guys had a very long term plan 508 00:30:36,460 --> 00:30:38,860 For how they were going to increase 509 00:30:38,862 --> 00:30:43,002 The powerful infrastructure of private companies. 510 00:30:44,865 --> 00:30:47,395 What we've essentially done is to create 511 00:30:47,401 --> 00:30:51,101 A network of corporations that have the 512 00:30:51,104 --> 00:30:54,274 Fire power of small nation-states. 513 00:30:54,273 --> 00:30:57,173 That could, you know, overthrow some 514 00:30:57,175 --> 00:31:00,175 Small governments around the world. 515 00:31:01,311 --> 00:31:03,451 - In essence, we in the United States 516 00:31:03,447 --> 00:31:07,447 Have privatized the ultimate public function, war. 517 00:31:18,358 --> 00:31:22,158 - You know bombs have got a time limit, they're like food. 518 00:31:22,162 --> 00:31:26,262 You know munitions has got, you know, sell-by dates. 519 00:31:26,266 --> 00:31:27,496 You gotta get rid of it. 520 00:31:46,847 --> 00:31:50,077 In iraq, the f-16s and f-18s were firing 521 00:31:50,084 --> 00:31:52,324 Six million dollars within seconds, 522 00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:56,089 Coming back, re-arming and going up again. 523 00:32:08,398 --> 00:32:10,468 - there's no hope of ending war, 524 00:32:10,467 --> 00:32:12,197 Because there's always a small cobble 525 00:32:12,202 --> 00:32:16,242 Of people for whom war is really, really good business. 526 00:32:17,938 --> 00:32:21,238 It doesn't matter that we're losing the war in afghanistan. 527 00:32:21,242 --> 00:32:23,282 Halliburton could care less. 528 00:32:23,277 --> 00:32:26,607 It's good for them, good for profit. 529 00:33:16,423 --> 00:33:17,993 Well we've undergone a corporate 530 00:33:17,992 --> 00:33:20,392 Coup d'état, in slow motion. 531 00:33:20,394 --> 00:33:22,594 To quote john ralston saul. 532 00:33:22,596 --> 00:33:25,196 35,000 lobbyists in washington, they write 533 00:33:25,198 --> 00:33:28,528 The legislation, they write the bills. 534 00:33:28,534 --> 00:33:31,234 - All it takes is one phone call, 535 00:33:31,236 --> 00:33:33,166 From somebody on the hill, to someone 536 00:33:33,171 --> 00:33:36,341 In the pentagon, saying, "hey, turn on the dogs, 537 00:33:36,340 --> 00:33:37,970 "the hill's out to get our program. 538 00:33:37,974 --> 00:33:39,974 "the guy's in the senate aren't on board, 539 00:33:39,976 --> 00:33:41,936 "we need you to turn on the gucci shoe guys 540 00:33:41,944 --> 00:33:43,384 "to straighten this thing out." 541 00:33:43,378 --> 00:33:46,378 The gucci shoe guys being the lobbyists. 542 00:33:46,381 --> 00:33:48,481 And what this does is just lock the system up, 543 00:33:48,483 --> 00:33:49,623 And that's the whole name of the game. 544 00:33:49,617 --> 00:33:52,277 It's called political engineering. 545 00:33:52,286 --> 00:33:56,316 And unlike political science, political engineering is real. 546 00:33:58,323 --> 00:34:00,623 One of the most important things to understand, 547 00:34:00,626 --> 00:34:03,256 It essentially creates what we call 548 00:34:03,261 --> 00:34:06,031 A self-licking ice-cream cone. 549 00:34:07,063 --> 00:34:09,133 And it's like a perpetual motion machine 550 00:34:09,132 --> 00:34:12,332 For getting ever increasing defense budgets. 551 00:34:12,335 --> 00:34:14,695 The way we do it is by downplaying the 552 00:34:14,704 --> 00:34:17,444 Future consequences to start a new weapon. 553 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,370 We over promise it's performance, 554 00:34:19,375 --> 00:34:21,575 Under promise it's cost. 555 00:34:21,577 --> 00:34:24,577 We then, systematically spread dollars, jobs 556 00:34:24,580 --> 00:34:27,410 And profits to as many congressional districts 557 00:34:27,416 --> 00:34:29,516 As quickly as possible, so that everybody 558 00:34:29,518 --> 00:34:31,348 Has skin in the game. 559 00:34:34,754 --> 00:34:37,394 - The people who are invested in this stage, 560 00:34:37,390 --> 00:34:40,390 Are people like the largest defense contractor in the world. 561 00:34:40,393 --> 00:34:42,033 Lockheed martin. 562 00:34:42,027 --> 00:34:45,527 They will die before they see it go. 563 00:34:45,530 --> 00:34:47,300 - and while we don't know what's 564 00:34:47,298 --> 00:34:49,768 Going to change the world next, 565 00:34:51,067 --> 00:34:54,197 We're probably already working on it. 566 00:34:57,306 --> 00:34:59,136 - Lockheed martin basically gets in 567 00:34:59,142 --> 00:35:02,082 Like an octopus, and lifts it's tentacles, 568 00:35:02,078 --> 00:35:04,648 You know, in all branches of the government. 569 00:35:04,647 --> 00:35:06,707 And then they hold them. 570 00:35:08,282 --> 00:35:11,122 And that's how they operate. 571 00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:15,489 They make the mafia look like a bunch of schoolboys. 572 00:35:15,490 --> 00:35:19,460 - Fiscal year 1999, 2.3 trillion missing. 573 00:35:19,460 --> 00:35:23,160 Fiscal year 2000, 1.1 trillion missing. 574 00:35:23,163 --> 00:35:25,363 The pentagon has claimed, year after year, 575 00:35:25,365 --> 00:35:27,365 That the reason it can't account for the money 576 00:35:27,367 --> 00:35:29,497 Is because it's computers don't communicate 577 00:35:29,502 --> 00:35:31,372 With each other. 578 00:35:31,370 --> 00:35:33,200 - one trillion, one dollar bills, 579 00:35:33,205 --> 00:35:37,405 Stacked high would reach nearly 68,000 miles into space. 580 00:35:37,409 --> 00:35:40,439 One third of the way to the moon. 581 00:35:41,478 --> 00:35:44,108 - I got a phone call from the fbi 582 00:35:44,114 --> 00:35:47,424 Saying that I was a target of a death threat. 583 00:35:47,417 --> 00:35:50,377 And that's what happens when you go against 584 00:35:50,386 --> 00:35:51,516 The big boys. 585 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,290 Who has the contracts today, to make 586 00:35:55,290 --> 00:35:57,590 Those systems communicate with each other? 587 00:35:57,592 --> 00:36:00,692 And how much have the tax payers paid for them? 588 00:36:00,695 --> 00:36:02,385 - There are times that corporations 589 00:36:02,396 --> 00:36:04,796 Do things they should not do, in which case 590 00:36:04,798 --> 00:36:07,398 They tend to be suspended for some period. 591 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,130 There are times then that corporations 592 00:36:09,135 --> 00:36:10,795 Can get out of the penalty box, if you will... 593 00:36:10,803 --> 00:36:13,843 - This company was never in the penalty box. 594 00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:16,509 If you could proceed to my second question please. 595 00:36:16,508 --> 00:36:18,738 - The second question... 596 00:36:24,514 --> 00:36:28,454 I've forgotten what the second question was. 597 00:36:32,953 --> 00:36:35,823 - Individuals operating in the shadows, 598 00:36:35,823 --> 00:36:38,423 And never having their names called, 599 00:36:38,425 --> 00:36:42,325 Are able to leverage the power of the military 600 00:36:42,328 --> 00:36:44,758 And the foreign policy apparatus for 601 00:36:44,763 --> 00:36:47,663 Their own personal pecuniary ends. 602 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,500 - What now? 603 00:36:51,502 --> 00:36:55,372 How do we justify all this tanks, 604 00:36:55,372 --> 00:36:57,712 All this planes, all this bullshit? 605 00:36:57,707 --> 00:37:00,767 What better new enemy than an hypothetical 606 00:37:00,776 --> 00:37:04,476 Invisible enemy called the war on terror? 607 00:39:01,990 --> 00:39:03,690 - I think at the most basic level, 608 00:39:03,692 --> 00:39:06,732 When we realize how we've entered into 609 00:39:08,095 --> 00:39:10,655 A permanent state of war, like what 610 00:39:10,665 --> 00:39:13,395 Often proponents of 611 00:39:14,534 --> 00:39:15,804 Counter-terrorism on a global scale, 612 00:39:15,802 --> 00:39:17,672 Think of as a long war, but a war 613 00:39:17,670 --> 00:39:20,700 Without end, something like that. 614 00:39:25,109 --> 00:39:28,539 And I think that what we've accepted 615 00:39:28,546 --> 00:39:31,576 Is a political regime 616 00:39:31,582 --> 00:39:33,852 That is sustained by fear. 617 00:39:33,850 --> 00:39:35,650 This is a very old... 618 00:39:35,651 --> 00:39:37,721 It's a very old political tactic. 619 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,349 I mean, machiavelli asks in the prince, 620 00:39:41,355 --> 00:39:43,915 "is it better for the prince to be feared or loved?" 621 00:39:43,924 --> 00:39:47,694 And his conclusion is, because the locus 622 00:39:47,694 --> 00:39:51,034 Of fear, the source of fear resides in him, 623 00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:54,700 In the prince, it can be constant for his rule. 624 00:39:54,700 --> 00:39:58,130 Whereas the locus of love, resides in the people. 625 00:39:58,136 --> 00:39:59,796 It's in their power. 626 00:39:59,804 --> 00:40:03,714 And so for them could be constant, and long lasting. 627 00:40:03,707 --> 00:40:05,937 So machiavelli already opens a question that 628 00:40:05,942 --> 00:40:08,682 He probably doesn't provide us the answer with, 629 00:40:08,678 --> 00:40:11,808 What would it mean to have our social arrangement, 630 00:40:11,814 --> 00:40:14,784 Like the basis of our social choices, 631 00:40:16,150 --> 00:40:17,780 Be founded on love? 632 00:40:20,787 --> 00:40:22,847 - I don't think one has to justify the cost 633 00:40:22,856 --> 00:40:25,116 And nature of the national security state, 634 00:40:25,124 --> 00:40:28,164 One just has to keep the people fearful enough 635 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,860 To support it. 636 00:40:29,861 --> 00:40:31,391 - But what I want to bring to your attention today 637 00:40:31,395 --> 00:40:34,595 Is the potentially much more sinister nexus 638 00:40:34,598 --> 00:40:38,628 Between iraq and the al-qaeda terrorist network. 639 00:40:38,635 --> 00:40:41,795 - Every word in that speech was gone over by 640 00:40:41,804 --> 00:40:44,574 The director of central intelligence, 641 00:40:44,573 --> 00:40:46,013 And his deputy director. 642 00:40:46,007 --> 00:40:48,707 So there's nothing that I made up. 643 00:40:48,709 --> 00:40:50,709 There was nothing that I stuck in there. 644 00:40:50,711 --> 00:40:52,481 And in fact, some people tried to stick 645 00:40:52,479 --> 00:40:54,779 Extra things in there, that the intelligence 646 00:40:54,781 --> 00:40:57,681 Community wouldn't verify with multi-sourcing. 647 00:40:57,683 --> 00:40:58,923 And I said no. 648 00:40:58,917 --> 00:41:01,877 - Powell grabbed me, physically, 649 00:41:01,886 --> 00:41:05,846 Which was unlike him, and drug me into a space 650 00:41:05,856 --> 00:41:09,056 At the cia, at langely, and said, 651 00:41:09,059 --> 00:41:12,729 "throw all the material in my presentation 652 00:41:12,729 --> 00:41:15,659 "about terrorism out, cut it out." 653 00:41:15,665 --> 00:41:17,055 - About this amount, this is just about... 654 00:41:17,066 --> 00:41:19,926 - Within an hour, george tenet, the director 655 00:41:19,935 --> 00:41:23,565 Of central intelligence, made a spectacular 656 00:41:23,571 --> 00:41:25,871 Bombshell presentation. 657 00:41:25,873 --> 00:41:27,773 We have just learned from a high level 658 00:41:27,774 --> 00:41:30,814 Al-qaeda operative, under interrogation, 659 00:41:30,810 --> 00:41:33,710 About significant contacts between 660 00:41:33,712 --> 00:41:36,682 Baghdad's mukhabarat, and al-qaeda. 661 00:41:38,848 --> 00:41:40,848 This was devastating. 662 00:41:41,784 --> 00:41:44,154 Here's a director of central intelligence 663 00:41:44,154 --> 00:41:46,694 Telling the secretary of state 664 00:41:46,689 --> 00:41:49,859 That he has interrogated evidence. 665 00:41:49,858 --> 00:41:51,618 Well the secretary turned to me and said, 666 00:41:51,626 --> 00:41:53,686 "put it back in." 667 00:41:53,694 --> 00:41:56,134 - al-qaeda continues to have a deep interest 668 00:41:56,129 --> 00:41:58,999 In acquiring weapons of mass destruction. 669 00:41:58,998 --> 00:42:01,828 As with the story of zarqawi and his network, 670 00:42:01,834 --> 00:42:05,544 I can trace the story of a senior terrorist operative 671 00:42:05,537 --> 00:42:08,237 Telling how iraq provided training 672 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,869 In these weapons to al-qaeda. 673 00:42:10,874 --> 00:42:12,844 - Later I learn that was sheikh al libi. 674 00:42:12,842 --> 00:42:15,542 That it hadn't just instantly happened. 675 00:42:15,544 --> 00:42:17,714 It had happened months before. 676 00:42:17,712 --> 00:42:21,012 That he'd been water-boarded in egypt, when he did this. 677 00:42:21,015 --> 00:42:23,615 No u.S. Personnel were present. 678 00:42:23,617 --> 00:42:26,577 And he had recanted within a couple of weeks, 679 00:42:26,586 --> 00:42:28,816 And we never were told about that. 680 00:42:28,821 --> 00:42:30,621 - Every statement I make today is backed 681 00:42:30,622 --> 00:42:33,262 Up by sources, solid sources. 682 00:42:33,257 --> 00:42:35,117 These are not assertions. 683 00:42:35,125 --> 00:42:37,255 What we're giving you are facts and conclusions 684 00:42:37,260 --> 00:42:39,860 Based on solid intelligence. 685 00:42:40,862 --> 00:42:44,102 - We were, indisputably, we were lied to. 686 00:42:45,666 --> 00:42:47,726 - at this hour, american and coalition 687 00:42:47,735 --> 00:42:51,135 Forces are in the early stages of military operations, 688 00:42:51,138 --> 00:42:53,768 To disarm iraq, to free it's people, 689 00:42:53,773 --> 00:42:56,113 And to defend the world from grave danger. 690 00:42:56,108 --> 00:42:59,738 - As karl rove famously said to this reporter, 691 00:42:59,744 --> 00:43:02,954 "now you guys are reality based communities. 692 00:43:02,947 --> 00:43:04,177 "we make reality. 693 00:43:04,181 --> 00:43:06,051 "by the time you figured out, you know, 694 00:43:06,049 --> 00:43:07,679 "what's wrong with our reality, 695 00:43:07,683 --> 00:43:09,853 "we've moved on to the creation of another reality." 696 00:43:09,851 --> 00:43:12,851 - Did you sell or cause to come into the possession 697 00:43:12,854 --> 00:43:15,724 Of saddam hussein weapons of mass destruction? 698 00:43:15,723 --> 00:43:20,163 - Did the United States sell to him, absolutely not. 699 00:43:22,962 --> 00:43:25,232 - Iran-iraq was on such a scale, and I was 700 00:43:25,230 --> 00:43:28,260 On the iranian side, and I went down to the battle point. 701 00:43:28,266 --> 00:43:30,996 I was actually given a gas kit. 702 00:43:31,002 --> 00:43:32,902 And so they let me take the train back, 703 00:43:32,903 --> 00:43:34,273 Right all the way up to tehran. 704 00:43:34,271 --> 00:43:37,071 And the carriages were crammed with iranian 705 00:43:37,073 --> 00:43:38,773 Soldiers who'd been gassed. 706 00:43:38,774 --> 00:43:40,544 Some were just coughing, retching it. 707 00:43:40,542 --> 00:43:42,912 And one man was reading the quran, 708 00:43:42,911 --> 00:43:44,741 And he would sort of put a handkerchief 709 00:43:44,746 --> 00:43:47,276 And wipe the blood off his lips. 710 00:43:48,281 --> 00:43:50,321 Gradually the corridors became permeated 711 00:43:50,317 --> 00:43:52,247 With a sort of very sick smell. 712 00:43:52,252 --> 00:43:53,852 And I realized it was the smell of 713 00:43:53,853 --> 00:43:55,753 The gas that they were coughing up from their lungs, 714 00:43:55,754 --> 00:43:57,024 And I was going along the corridors, 715 00:43:57,021 --> 00:43:59,021 Opening all the windows in the night air, 716 00:43:59,023 --> 00:44:01,023 Trying to clean the train out of this smell 717 00:44:01,025 --> 00:44:03,955 Of, obviously, chemical warfare. 718 00:44:06,930 --> 00:44:09,930 After 2003 I was being attacked on radio shows, 719 00:44:09,933 --> 00:44:11,603 Especially from america. 720 00:44:11,601 --> 00:44:12,931 Well you're complaining about the american invasion, 721 00:44:12,935 --> 00:44:15,995 And I said, excuse me I was on the train 722 00:44:16,004 --> 00:44:19,574 Of iranians gassed by the iraqis. 723 00:44:19,574 --> 00:44:22,014 And the chemical components came from the United States. 724 00:44:22,009 --> 00:44:26,239 At the very time that your rumsfeld was meeting saddam. 725 00:44:27,346 --> 00:44:30,006 - You were meeting with saddam hussein. 726 00:44:30,016 --> 00:44:31,776 I think we have some video of that. 727 00:44:31,784 --> 00:44:33,224 Of that meeting. 728 00:44:33,218 --> 00:44:36,118 Tell me what was going on during this meeting. 729 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,790 - Where did you get this video, from the iraqi television... 730 00:44:38,789 --> 00:44:41,859 - When did they give it to you, recently, or back then? 731 00:44:41,858 --> 00:44:44,058 - We've dug this out of the cnn library. 732 00:44:44,060 --> 00:44:45,930 - I see. 733 00:44:45,928 --> 00:44:47,888 Isn't that interesting. 734 00:44:48,729 --> 00:44:49,729 There I am. 735 00:45:06,980 --> 00:45:09,880 - our war on terror, 736 00:45:09,883 --> 00:45:11,653 Begins with al-qaeda. 737 00:45:12,751 --> 00:45:13,921 But it does not end there. 738 00:45:17,289 --> 00:45:18,989 - This very phrase, war on terror, 739 00:45:18,990 --> 00:45:21,190 Is irrational. 740 00:45:21,192 --> 00:45:25,332 It's like saying, a war on war. 741 00:45:25,329 --> 00:45:28,129 A war on violence, a war that... 742 00:45:28,131 --> 00:45:29,761 It's nonsense. 743 00:45:29,765 --> 00:45:31,125 You're stepping into this possibility of, kind 744 00:45:31,133 --> 00:45:32,903 Of, perpetual war. 745 00:45:33,901 --> 00:45:36,871 - Good morning darling, how are you? 746 00:45:38,071 --> 00:45:39,911 - They lack at reassuring us, 747 00:45:39,907 --> 00:45:42,407 And we kept believing him, because 748 00:45:42,409 --> 00:45:44,139 You don't want to think your prime minister 749 00:45:44,144 --> 00:45:46,044 Is deceiving you in the route to a war, 750 00:45:46,045 --> 00:45:48,745 There's nothing more serious. 751 00:45:49,379 --> 00:45:53,149 ♪ we can change the world 752 00:45:53,151 --> 00:45:55,081 - When the serious fraud office launched 753 00:45:55,086 --> 00:45:57,446 It's investigation into all the crimes 754 00:45:57,455 --> 00:46:00,085 That we were uncovering, it turned out 755 00:46:00,090 --> 00:46:01,820 That many of these arms deals had 756 00:46:01,825 --> 00:46:05,255 Been forced through by tony blair, personally. 757 00:46:05,261 --> 00:46:07,191 - He's a dedicated arms salesman. 758 00:46:07,196 --> 00:46:09,856 Whatever that was at his feet, ever, in government, 759 00:46:09,865 --> 00:46:12,395 He always backed the arms sale. 760 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,070 - the serious fraud office got to the brink 761 00:46:15,069 --> 00:46:18,399 Of uncovering the secret swiss bank accounts, 762 00:46:18,405 --> 00:46:22,405 By which bae was funneling money to the saudi royal family. 763 00:46:22,409 --> 00:46:23,979 The swiss said we're gonna notify 764 00:46:23,977 --> 00:46:25,907 The bank account holders. 765 00:46:25,912 --> 00:46:30,082 Bandar flew to london and blair swung into action. 766 00:46:33,518 --> 00:46:35,548 He ordered the serious fraud office 767 00:46:35,553 --> 00:46:37,153 To close down their investigation. 768 00:46:37,154 --> 00:46:39,854 ♪ we can change the world 769 00:46:39,856 --> 00:46:43,356 - Prince bandar said if the investigation continued, 770 00:46:43,359 --> 00:46:47,289 They would withdraw national security cooperation. 771 00:46:47,296 --> 00:46:50,096 Which would lead, in the words of prince bandar, 772 00:46:50,098 --> 00:46:53,168 "to blood on the streets of london." 773 00:46:56,169 --> 00:46:57,999 - the story we've been banging away at, 774 00:46:58,005 --> 00:47:00,435 For more than five years, suddenly everybody woke up to it, 775 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,410 Because everybody could see it was a huge 776 00:47:02,408 --> 00:47:04,268 Cover-up scandal. 777 00:47:04,276 --> 00:47:06,236 The spectacle of a british prime minister 778 00:47:06,244 --> 00:47:08,884 Closing down a criminal investigation for 779 00:47:08,879 --> 00:47:10,109 His own reasons. 780 00:47:10,113 --> 00:47:11,313 - were you aware that your 781 00:47:11,314 --> 00:47:13,414 Government was approving payments to a friend 782 00:47:13,416 --> 00:47:15,946 Of president bush's, as part of a 783 00:47:15,951 --> 00:47:18,281 British aerospace's kick back system? 784 00:47:18,286 --> 00:47:21,846 Is that why you suspended a fraud inquiry? 785 00:47:23,157 --> 00:47:25,157 - When tony blair started talking about 786 00:47:25,159 --> 00:47:27,859 National security interest, that's supposed to be 787 00:47:27,861 --> 00:47:29,861 A card that trumps all others. 788 00:47:29,863 --> 00:47:31,133 - I don't believe the investigation 789 00:47:31,130 --> 00:47:32,400 Incidentally would have led anywhere, 790 00:47:32,397 --> 00:47:34,327 Except to the complete wreckage 791 00:47:34,332 --> 00:47:38,532 Of a vital, strategic relationship for our country. 792 00:47:38,536 --> 00:47:40,936 In terms of fighting terrorism, in terms 793 00:47:40,938 --> 00:47:45,438 Of the middle east, in terms of british interest there. 794 00:47:45,442 --> 00:47:47,182 - So this thing's absolutely stunning. 795 00:47:47,177 --> 00:47:50,207 It seems to be a very expensive way 796 00:47:50,213 --> 00:47:53,113 Of organizing bribe payment. 797 00:47:53,115 --> 00:47:57,275 Out the military equipment, and just hand out the money. 798 00:48:02,622 --> 00:48:04,562 ♪ we can change the world 799 00:48:04,557 --> 00:48:07,257 - blair came to south africa, specifically 800 00:48:07,259 --> 00:48:11,289 To lobby the bae, the british weapons manufacturer, 801 00:48:11,296 --> 00:48:15,256 Who won the biggest contract on our arms deal. 802 00:48:15,266 --> 00:48:16,966 ♪ our time has come 803 00:48:20,903 --> 00:48:22,403 - And the option that they presented 804 00:48:22,405 --> 00:48:25,265 Was two and half times more expensive 805 00:48:25,274 --> 00:48:27,944 Than the plane that the south african air force 806 00:48:27,943 --> 00:48:30,013 Actually wanted. 807 00:48:30,011 --> 00:48:32,111 - bae systems. 808 00:48:32,113 --> 00:48:33,283 Real performance. 809 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,610 Real advantage. 810 00:48:39,585 --> 00:48:42,245 - As mandela was about to step down 811 00:48:42,254 --> 00:48:46,264 From public life, his successor, thabo mbeki, 812 00:48:46,258 --> 00:48:50,488 Made the decision to spend around 10 billion dollars, 813 00:48:51,561 --> 00:48:54,531 What were quite scarce public resources, 814 00:48:54,531 --> 00:48:58,371 On this weaponry that we didn't need. 815 00:48:58,368 --> 00:49:02,038 Rather than provide life saving medication, 816 00:49:02,038 --> 00:49:04,668 For the almost 6 million south africans 817 00:49:04,673 --> 00:49:08,943 Who were then living with hiv, or aids. 818 00:49:08,943 --> 00:49:10,643 The primary reason for those deals, 819 00:49:10,644 --> 00:49:14,684 Was that around 300 million dollars in bribes 820 00:49:14,681 --> 00:49:17,411 Were paid to senior politicians, 821 00:49:19,950 --> 00:49:22,620 And sadly to the african national congress, 822 00:49:22,620 --> 00:49:24,520 The anc, my own party. 823 00:49:28,390 --> 00:49:31,190 I was called in by a senior member of the anc's 824 00:49:31,193 --> 00:49:33,063 National executive council. 825 00:49:33,061 --> 00:49:35,691 He said to me, "look andrew, this is a battle 826 00:49:35,696 --> 00:49:40,166 "you cannot win, because this money, the bribes, 827 00:49:40,167 --> 00:49:43,937 "we used to fund our 1999 election." 828 00:49:43,937 --> 00:49:46,237 And almost immediately I'm asked to make 829 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,239 A statement to the press that says 830 00:49:48,241 --> 00:49:51,341 There's nothing to investigate. 831 00:49:51,344 --> 00:49:53,044 So it's all over. 832 00:49:54,311 --> 00:49:58,311 And I looked at him and I said, no it's not. 833 00:49:58,316 --> 00:50:01,376 I won't be able to live with myself, 834 00:50:03,018 --> 00:50:05,318 If I stop this investigation. 835 00:50:05,321 --> 00:50:08,121 But at the same time, I'm also realizing, 836 00:50:08,123 --> 00:50:11,663 That this is the end of my political career. 837 00:50:15,095 --> 00:50:18,255 The heads of government are the sales people in chief 838 00:50:18,264 --> 00:50:21,534 Of their country's large arms contractors. 839 00:50:21,533 --> 00:50:23,733 And this is the template used by large 840 00:50:23,735 --> 00:50:27,095 Defense contractors around the world. 841 00:50:34,410 --> 00:50:37,080 - Companies like bae are not only, sort of, 842 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,510 Effectively part of the government, 843 00:50:38,514 --> 00:50:40,754 But they're effectively above the law. 844 00:50:40,749 --> 00:50:43,549 - Corruption is not merely a dirty little detail 845 00:50:43,551 --> 00:50:46,351 On top of the arms trade, it's actually, 846 00:50:46,353 --> 00:50:50,093 In a lot of cases, what drives the international arms trade. 847 00:50:50,090 --> 00:50:53,290 Many of these deals would not happen if they did not 848 00:50:53,293 --> 00:50:57,303 Provide opportunities for personal enrichment. 849 00:50:57,297 --> 00:51:00,157 - I would be offended if I thought 850 00:51:02,233 --> 00:51:05,133 We had the monopoly on corruption. 851 00:51:20,316 --> 00:51:22,246 - As I was being dragged out I thought, 852 00:51:22,252 --> 00:51:24,322 Right at the last second I'm gonna still say, 853 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,390 Remind everyone that this guy is a war criminal. 854 00:51:26,388 --> 00:51:28,688 - Can I just say, actually, on the record, 855 00:51:28,690 --> 00:51:31,160 What he said about iraq and jp morgan 856 00:51:31,159 --> 00:51:33,089 Is completely and totally untrue. 857 00:51:33,094 --> 00:51:34,534 I have never had a discussion with them. 858 00:51:34,528 --> 00:51:36,028 - Now I'm not suggesting that there was a phone 859 00:51:36,029 --> 00:51:37,699 Call between jp morgan and blair, 860 00:51:37,697 --> 00:51:39,257 It was actually what happened was, 861 00:51:39,265 --> 00:51:41,095 Jp morgan and a consortium of other banks 862 00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:44,400 Did, in fact, prop up the whole iraq economy 863 00:51:44,403 --> 00:51:47,503 To the tune of about 2.5 billion, not 20 billion, 864 00:51:47,506 --> 00:51:49,506 I was a bit nervous that day. 865 00:51:49,508 --> 00:51:51,408 Then six months after he left office, 866 00:51:51,409 --> 00:51:53,479 Blair suddenly signed by jp morgan, 867 00:51:53,477 --> 00:51:56,177 For five million dollars every year. 868 00:51:56,179 --> 00:51:58,249 I was just trying to enlighten the public 869 00:51:58,247 --> 00:51:59,507 That there was corruption involved, 870 00:51:59,514 --> 00:52:02,314 And not just bad decision making. 871 00:52:02,316 --> 00:52:05,576 - I'd like to find out how this gentlemen 872 00:52:07,085 --> 00:52:09,545 Managed to access the court. 873 00:52:09,555 --> 00:52:10,815 - There must be a back door in, 874 00:52:10,822 --> 00:52:12,492 Because they'd all gone out for tea at the time. 875 00:52:12,490 --> 00:52:13,660 And there was a courtroom, directly 876 00:52:13,657 --> 00:52:16,187 Underneath the courtroom that blair was in, 877 00:52:16,192 --> 00:52:17,722 And it was left unlocked. 878 00:52:17,726 --> 00:52:19,756 So I went through that one, up two floors 879 00:52:19,761 --> 00:52:22,191 Via the fire escape, and then to the door 880 00:52:22,196 --> 00:52:25,456 By this time my heart was pounding, like... 881 00:52:25,465 --> 00:52:27,725 You know, I was really going mad. 882 00:52:27,733 --> 00:52:29,833 And I actually lost my courage for the moment. 883 00:52:29,835 --> 00:52:31,525 So I went and sat down in a bathroom, 884 00:52:31,536 --> 00:52:33,796 I found a gentleman's toilet there, 885 00:52:33,804 --> 00:52:35,604 I did actually ring my mother, 886 00:52:35,605 --> 00:52:37,365 And I said, listen, I'm here, what shall I do? 887 00:52:37,373 --> 00:52:38,573 Do you think I should still go in? 888 00:52:38,574 --> 00:52:39,674 And my mum said, "yeah, go on, you 889 00:52:39,675 --> 00:52:41,335 "won't get another chance." 890 00:52:41,343 --> 00:52:42,513 And I thought, that's it, I'm in. 891 00:52:42,510 --> 00:52:45,380 The man is a war criminal! 892 00:52:52,418 --> 00:52:55,248 - augustine said, "that hope has 893 00:52:55,255 --> 00:52:59,155 "two beautiful daughters, anger and courage. 894 00:52:59,158 --> 00:53:01,458 "anger at the way things are, and courage 895 00:53:01,460 --> 00:53:03,690 "to see that they don't remain the way they are." 896 00:53:10,867 --> 00:53:12,667 You conserve two sets of principles, 897 00:53:12,669 --> 00:53:15,269 Privilege and power, or justice and truth. 898 00:53:15,271 --> 00:53:17,471 The more you make compromises with those 899 00:53:17,473 --> 00:53:19,543 Who serve privilege and power, 900 00:53:19,541 --> 00:53:24,381 The more you diminish the capacity for justice and truth. 901 00:53:24,378 --> 00:53:27,278 And, I think that 902 00:53:28,580 --> 00:53:32,620 The rebel seeks to keep those who have power, fearful. 903 00:54:32,205 --> 00:54:33,865 - Peace, that's what we want. 904 00:54:33,874 --> 00:54:35,244 Freedom and peace. 905 00:56:00,925 --> 00:56:04,785 - So what if the guy threw a shoe at me? 906 00:56:38,660 --> 00:56:39,660 - I'm gonna read you the 907 00:56:39,662 --> 00:56:41,832 Sourcing, of the la times report, 908 00:56:41,830 --> 00:56:43,760 Paragraph one, u.S. Authorities say, 909 00:56:43,765 --> 00:56:46,725 Column one, still u.S. Officials said. 910 00:56:46,734 --> 00:56:49,844 Said one u.S. Justice department counter-terrorism 911 00:56:49,837 --> 00:56:52,067 Official, column two, officials said, 912 00:56:52,072 --> 00:56:55,472 U.S. Authorities say, u.S. Officials said, 913 00:56:55,475 --> 00:56:58,005 Those officials said, the officials confirmed. 914 00:56:58,010 --> 00:57:00,980 American officials complained, they said, 915 00:57:00,979 --> 00:57:05,749 U.S. Officials stressed, column three. 916 00:57:05,750 --> 00:57:08,950 U.S. Authorities said, jordanian officials said... 917 00:57:09,887 --> 00:57:11,747 We got a slight... 918 00:57:11,755 --> 00:57:13,115 No laughter please, we haven't finished yet. 919 00:57:13,123 --> 00:57:14,923 Several u.S. Officials said. 920 00:57:14,924 --> 00:57:17,824 Column four, u.S. Officials said. 921 00:57:17,826 --> 00:57:19,626 Several american officials said. 922 00:57:19,627 --> 00:57:21,627 Officials say, say u.S. Officials. 923 00:57:21,629 --> 00:57:24,029 But u.S. Officials said, one u.S. Counter-terrorism 924 00:57:24,031 --> 00:57:25,501 Official said, I'm not joking. 925 00:57:25,499 --> 00:57:26,729 There it is. 926 00:57:26,733 --> 00:57:29,073 That is the journalism you're getting fed. 927 00:57:29,068 --> 00:57:30,628 And I sometimes think the la times 928 00:57:30,636 --> 00:57:32,196 And the new york times, should be called 929 00:57:32,204 --> 00:57:33,744 American officials say. 930 00:57:35,740 --> 00:57:39,710 - I denounced the call to invade iraq publicly. 931 00:57:39,710 --> 00:57:44,050 The new york times issued me a formal written reprimand, 932 00:57:44,047 --> 00:57:46,647 Which is what you get before you're fired, 933 00:57:46,649 --> 00:57:50,219 Under union rules, to stop speaking out against the war. 934 00:57:50,219 --> 00:57:51,889 I'd been the middle east bureau chief. 935 00:57:51,887 --> 00:57:54,717 I'd been in iraq, spent seven years in the middle east. 936 00:58:01,228 --> 00:58:04,958 How can you come out of gaza and not be angry? 937 00:58:04,965 --> 00:58:06,595 What's being done to those people. 938 00:58:06,599 --> 00:58:09,899 How can you come out of the sudan, 939 00:58:09,902 --> 00:58:12,872 El salvador, you know, dozens of other places 940 00:58:12,871 --> 00:58:15,471 I've been, and not be angry? 941 00:58:17,674 --> 00:58:21,614 I've seen the bodies of a lot of children. 942 00:58:21,612 --> 00:58:23,242 Which I can't forget. 943 00:58:30,820 --> 00:58:35,520 20 years, it, you know, fucks you up. 944 00:58:48,635 --> 00:58:51,565 Dostoevsky said, "hell is the inability to love, 945 00:58:51,572 --> 00:58:54,812 "and that's what kills people." 946 00:58:54,808 --> 00:58:58,008 I fully get why people blow their brains out. 947 00:58:58,011 --> 00:58:59,711 It's really hell. 948 00:59:00,912 --> 00:59:04,512 And, I don't use love as a kind of hallmark, 949 00:59:04,516 --> 00:59:08,076 Schmaltzy, you know, we all gotta love each other. 950 00:59:08,086 --> 00:59:10,946 I'm saying that the only way you're healed 951 00:59:10,955 --> 00:59:13,715 From those experiences is by re-establishing 952 00:59:13,724 --> 00:59:16,894 A connection with that kind of power. 953 00:59:17,926 --> 00:59:19,286 With another human being. 954 00:59:19,295 --> 00:59:22,795 And if you can't do that, you don't survive. 955 00:59:22,798 --> 00:59:25,198 And I have friends who couldn't do it, 956 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,670 And they're not here anymore. 957 00:59:34,006 --> 00:59:37,676 It's the, you know, the power of love 958 00:59:37,677 --> 00:59:39,037 To transcend time. 959 01:00:55,384 --> 01:01:00,094 - That looks like a gaub 2-alpha 38 960 01:01:00,089 --> 01:01:03,089 That we used to have on our loches. 961 01:01:03,092 --> 01:01:06,192 A mini-gun that fired 4,000 rounds per minute. 962 01:01:06,195 --> 01:01:08,955 One of the manifestations of the national security state, 963 01:01:08,964 --> 01:01:13,134 Especially in the, sort of, apogee it's arrived at today, 964 01:01:14,801 --> 01:01:16,971 Is that it destroys diplomacy. 965 01:01:16,970 --> 01:01:20,070 It destroys the will to diplomacy, and it destroys 966 01:01:20,073 --> 01:01:22,143 The skill for diplomacy. 967 01:01:35,953 --> 01:01:37,853 - If you're a small state, like we were for 968 01:01:37,855 --> 01:01:41,285 150 years, in essence, vis-a-vis Spain, France, 969 01:01:41,291 --> 01:01:44,761 England, and even russia, you've got to be 970 01:01:44,761 --> 01:01:47,291 Exquisitely good at diplomacy. 971 01:01:47,296 --> 01:01:48,896 You've got to be able to talk yourself 972 01:01:48,897 --> 01:01:51,197 Out of lots of things, and make deals 973 01:01:51,199 --> 01:01:53,129 And compromises and so forth. 974 01:01:53,134 --> 01:01:54,374 But if you're the world's hedge men 975 01:01:54,368 --> 01:01:57,068 You don't deal with anybody, you smack 'em. 976 01:01:57,070 --> 01:01:59,000 You use your military and you smack 'em. 977 01:02:01,107 --> 01:02:06,037 - On may 3rd of 2003, the ambassador of switzerland 978 01:02:06,045 --> 01:02:10,205 To tehran, delivers a letter from iran to the United States. 979 01:02:12,015 --> 01:02:14,445 In that letter, the iranians essentially 980 01:02:14,451 --> 01:02:17,991 Offer negotiations to open up the nuclear 981 01:02:17,987 --> 01:02:21,087 Program for full transparency. 982 01:02:21,090 --> 01:02:23,160 The proposal came in. 983 01:02:23,158 --> 01:02:25,688 I happened to see it, because a copy 984 01:02:25,693 --> 01:02:27,293 Was also given to a member of congress 985 01:02:27,294 --> 01:02:29,834 That I worked for at the time. 986 01:02:29,829 --> 01:02:33,899 He sent it over to the white house and karl rove. 987 01:02:33,899 --> 01:02:35,799 Karl rove called back. 988 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,030 He said that he found the proposal intriguing. 989 01:02:38,035 --> 01:02:40,395 He wanted to know if it was genuine. 990 01:02:40,404 --> 01:02:43,174 And he promised to put it in front of the president. 991 01:02:43,173 --> 01:02:46,313 - I would call karl rove a dear friend. 992 01:02:47,942 --> 01:02:50,082 - I've seen a man of farsighted courage. 993 01:02:50,078 --> 01:02:52,338 Put america on a war footing. 994 01:02:53,379 --> 01:02:55,749 And protect us against a brutal enemy, 995 01:02:55,749 --> 01:02:58,819 In a dangerous conflict that will shape this new century. 996 01:02:58,818 --> 01:03:02,848 - No form of response was given to the iranians at all. 997 01:03:02,855 --> 01:03:07,415 - I'm grateful to have been a witness to history. 998 01:03:07,426 --> 01:03:10,486 - And the argument was, that whatever could 999 01:03:10,495 --> 01:03:13,395 Come out of a negotiation with the iranians, 1000 01:03:13,397 --> 01:03:16,027 Even more could be achieved by simply 1001 01:03:16,032 --> 01:03:19,032 Removing the regime in iran. 1002 01:03:19,035 --> 01:03:21,235 In a way to sum up the argument, however, 1003 01:03:21,237 --> 01:03:25,407 The principle in the bush administration said 1004 01:03:25,407 --> 01:03:28,407 That we simply do not talk to evil. 1005 01:03:29,910 --> 01:03:32,240 - And as tony zini said, former central command commander, 1006 01:03:32,246 --> 01:03:35,506 "if you like to rock, you'll love iran." 1007 01:03:35,515 --> 01:03:39,015 That is a 10 to 14 year, 1008 01:03:39,018 --> 01:03:40,948 Three to four trillion dollar 1009 01:03:40,953 --> 01:03:44,253 Invasion, at the end of which the world, 1010 01:03:44,256 --> 01:03:48,116 Western asia, will look not much different 1011 01:03:48,126 --> 01:03:50,156 Than it does right now. 1012 01:03:50,161 --> 01:03:52,531 It'll still be in turmoil, still be in chaos, 1013 01:03:52,530 --> 01:03:56,960 And 70 plus million iranians will hate our living guts. 1014 01:03:58,934 --> 01:04:02,844 Went in to see the under-secretary of defense, 1015 01:04:02,837 --> 01:04:05,167 The ideas that wolfowitz shared with me, 1016 01:04:05,172 --> 01:04:09,172 He and secretary cheney in 91, 92, packaged them, 1017 01:04:09,176 --> 01:04:11,106 Re-tooled them, thought about them, 1018 01:04:11,111 --> 01:04:12,141 Went to the white house. 1019 01:04:12,145 --> 01:04:14,105 Briefed people like presidents. 1020 01:04:14,113 --> 01:04:18,083 America needs a new strategy, or forceable regime change. 1021 01:04:18,083 --> 01:04:22,153 So here this idea springs back up again in 2001. 1022 01:04:23,419 --> 01:04:26,089 I went through the pentagon, in November of 2001, 1023 01:04:26,089 --> 01:04:28,119 And one of the generals said, "sir I got this memo 1024 01:04:28,124 --> 01:04:30,264 "on my desk, it's... 1025 01:04:30,259 --> 01:04:34,289 "we're gonna go after seven countries in five years." 1026 01:04:36,796 --> 01:04:38,826 I said is that a classified memo? 1027 01:04:38,832 --> 01:04:41,102 He said, "yes sir! 1028 01:04:41,100 --> 01:04:42,530 "we're gonna start with iraq, and then we're 1029 01:04:42,534 --> 01:04:45,234 "gonna move to syria, lebanon, libya, 1030 01:04:45,236 --> 01:04:47,366 "somalia, sudan, and iran." 1031 01:04:56,978 --> 01:04:58,938 - I think it's highly probable the administration 1032 01:04:58,946 --> 01:05:02,306 Has already made the decision to go to war against iran. 1033 01:05:02,316 --> 01:05:06,276 There are already u.S. Troops inside iran. 1034 01:05:06,286 --> 01:05:07,946 I wanna repeat that. 1035 01:05:07,954 --> 01:05:11,564 There are already u.S. Troops inside iran. 1036 01:05:11,557 --> 01:05:13,387 - The u.S. Has long had it's eyes set 1037 01:05:13,392 --> 01:05:16,192 On trying to impact regime change in iran. 1038 01:05:16,194 --> 01:05:18,194 And much of what you've seen the u.S. Doing, 1039 01:05:18,196 --> 01:05:21,356 With regards to iran, has been on a covert level. 1040 01:05:21,365 --> 01:05:23,195 - We've seen a report in the new yorker, 1041 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:27,200 By seymour hersh, that a u.S. Source told him 1042 01:05:27,204 --> 01:05:29,474 That u.S. Marines were operating in the balochi, 1043 01:05:29,472 --> 01:05:33,242 Mazareh, and kurdish regions of iran. 1044 01:05:33,242 --> 01:05:35,542 Have you ever heard of that report? 1045 01:05:35,544 --> 01:05:37,214 - I've never heard of the report, I've never read the 1046 01:05:37,212 --> 01:05:39,582 Article, nor do I intend to. 1047 01:05:39,581 --> 01:05:42,211 - do you have any interest as to whether or not, 1048 01:05:42,216 --> 01:05:44,276 As the u.S. Ambassador? 1049 01:05:44,284 --> 01:05:45,854 - I don't... 1050 01:05:45,852 --> 01:05:50,862 U.S. Marines are actually operating in iran right now? 1051 01:05:50,857 --> 01:05:53,187 - I said I had not heard of the report, 1052 01:05:53,192 --> 01:05:57,192 And I didn't intend to read the article in the new yorker. 1053 01:05:57,196 --> 01:05:58,626 - if I gave you this article right now, 1054 01:05:58,630 --> 01:06:00,260 Walked it over, would you look at it? 1055 01:06:00,264 --> 01:06:02,264 - I don't think so honestly, congressman, 1056 01:06:02,266 --> 01:06:06,496 'cause I don't have the time to read much fiction. 1057 01:06:09,036 --> 01:06:12,136 - we have teams inside iran and these include 1058 01:06:12,140 --> 01:06:14,310 Joint special operation force, of our most 1059 01:06:14,308 --> 01:06:16,068 Elite commando unit. 1060 01:06:16,076 --> 01:06:18,436 It has been given executive authority by the president 1061 01:06:18,445 --> 01:06:20,575 In as many as 12 countries, to go in 1062 01:06:20,580 --> 01:06:24,950 And kill, we're talking about high value targets. 1063 01:06:24,951 --> 01:06:26,351 They're operating now, and they go into 1064 01:06:26,352 --> 01:06:29,022 Countries outside of the war zone, outside 1065 01:06:29,021 --> 01:06:31,321 Of afghanistan and outside of iraq, 1066 01:06:31,323 --> 01:06:33,263 Without telling the american cia station chief, 1067 01:06:33,258 --> 01:06:35,118 Or the american ambassador, they go in 1068 01:06:35,126 --> 01:06:36,886 Sterile and they kill people. 1069 01:06:39,196 --> 01:06:41,256 - We have to worry about the sort of dark side 1070 01:06:41,264 --> 01:06:43,704 If you will, when I spend time in the shadows, 1071 01:06:43,700 --> 01:06:46,470 In the intelligence world. 1072 01:06:46,469 --> 01:06:51,309 Will have to be done quietly, without any discussion, 1073 01:06:51,307 --> 01:06:53,307 Using sources and methods that are 1074 01:06:53,309 --> 01:06:55,779 Available to our intelligence agencies. 1075 01:07:12,425 --> 01:07:15,425 - The doctrine that has endured from bush to obama 1076 01:07:15,429 --> 01:07:17,429 Is that the world is a battlefield. 1077 01:07:17,431 --> 01:07:19,431 And that the united states has the right 1078 01:07:19,433 --> 01:07:21,333 To go into any country around the world 1079 01:07:21,334 --> 01:07:23,404 To conduct, what they call, kinetic operations, 1080 01:07:23,402 --> 01:07:24,702 Lethal operations, regardless of 1081 01:07:24,703 --> 01:07:27,303 What international law says. 1082 01:07:28,705 --> 01:07:30,605 What is president obama's response to that? 1083 01:07:30,607 --> 01:07:32,607 How is he going to deal with it? 1084 01:07:32,609 --> 01:07:36,379 He embraced the very covert shadow forces 1085 01:07:36,379 --> 01:07:38,509 That a decade earlier had only been 1086 01:07:38,514 --> 01:07:40,654 Talked about in hushed tones in the pentagon. 1087 01:07:40,649 --> 01:07:44,049 Not just as the implementors of a policy that said 1088 01:07:44,052 --> 01:07:46,352 We should decapitate terror networks, 1089 01:07:46,354 --> 01:07:48,354 And engage in preemptive strikes, but they 1090 01:07:48,356 --> 01:07:50,686 Became the policy itself. 1091 01:07:56,296 --> 01:07:57,626 President obama's administration have built 1092 01:07:57,630 --> 01:07:59,800 Up something called the disposition matrix. 1093 01:07:59,798 --> 01:08:01,498 It's like an algorithm for determining 1094 01:08:01,499 --> 01:08:02,399 Who should be killed, or who should 1095 01:08:02,399 --> 01:08:04,129 We seek to capture. 1096 01:08:04,134 --> 01:08:05,474 And one of the more, sort of, grotesque aspects 1097 01:08:05,468 --> 01:08:07,368 Of this, is that there were actually meetings 1098 01:08:07,369 --> 01:08:09,069 On tuesdays, in the white house, 1099 01:08:09,070 --> 01:08:11,200 That have been nicknamed terror Tuesday meetings. 1100 01:08:11,205 --> 01:08:13,365 Where they're going through rosters of names 1101 01:08:13,373 --> 01:08:15,413 To put on, or take off the list. 1102 01:08:15,408 --> 01:08:16,768 Maybe someone within that group has been 1103 01:08:16,776 --> 01:08:19,436 In contact with someone that the u.S. Is watching. 1104 01:08:19,445 --> 01:08:21,405 They went to the same mosque as someone. 1105 01:08:21,413 --> 01:08:23,413 They keep ordering pizza from the same place 1106 01:08:23,415 --> 01:08:24,845 As a taliban leader. 1107 01:08:24,849 --> 01:08:26,749 And you decide, these guys are probably up 1108 01:08:26,750 --> 01:08:29,580 To no good, and so, on this particular day, 1109 01:08:29,586 --> 01:08:32,146 We're gonna remove them from planet earth. 1110 01:08:32,155 --> 01:08:34,315 - So now we're getting into minority report. 1111 01:08:34,323 --> 01:08:36,763 Into this sort of sci-fi world of pk dick. 1112 01:08:36,758 --> 01:08:40,258 Where it's justifiable homicide. 1113 01:08:40,261 --> 01:08:41,691 Even though it's for an act that might 1114 01:08:41,695 --> 01:08:44,125 Take place in the future. 1115 01:08:44,130 --> 01:08:46,330 It's okay to kill from a distance, 1116 01:08:46,332 --> 01:08:50,372 Without a warrant, without a trial, without a jury. 1117 01:08:50,369 --> 01:08:53,669 And the execution takes place off screen. 1118 01:09:08,652 --> 01:09:12,822 - Where appropriate, we will bring terrorists to justice. 1119 01:09:14,656 --> 01:09:15,556 - When... 1120 01:09:16,757 --> 01:09:18,417 - When we... 1121 01:09:18,426 --> 01:09:19,486 - We went... 1122 01:09:22,394 --> 01:09:24,604 - He went on to... 1123 01:09:26,164 --> 01:09:27,504 - We went on... 1124 01:09:36,873 --> 01:09:39,643 - We're addressing that ma'am. 1125 01:09:43,412 --> 01:09:47,352 - The voice of that woman is worth paying attention to. 1126 01:09:47,350 --> 01:09:51,390 Obviously I do not agree with much of what she said. 1127 01:09:51,387 --> 01:09:53,847 - The president is not implementing policies that 1128 01:09:53,856 --> 01:09:56,456 We need to see change, for example that he 1129 01:09:56,458 --> 01:09:59,158 Would stop the authorization of signature strikes. 1130 01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:00,760 Which means killing people only on the basis 1131 01:10:00,761 --> 01:10:03,901 Of suspicious behavior, that's led to the 1132 01:10:03,897 --> 01:10:05,627 Killing of many innocent people... 1133 01:10:05,632 --> 01:10:08,472 - You know I post the question on my facebook page, 1134 01:10:08,468 --> 01:10:11,468 And asked them what they wanted to ask you. 1135 01:10:11,471 --> 01:10:12,671 And a lot of them said that you were 1136 01:10:12,672 --> 01:10:15,512 Hurting your own cause, because, one, 1137 01:10:15,508 --> 01:10:18,478 You appeared rude to the president of the United States, 1138 01:10:18,477 --> 01:10:22,707 And two, you just seemed a little crazy. 1139 01:10:23,747 --> 01:10:25,647 - Well I think killing innocent people 1140 01:10:25,649 --> 01:10:27,219 With drones is rude. 1141 01:10:27,217 --> 01:10:29,377 I think not apologizing to the families 1142 01:10:29,385 --> 01:10:32,245 Of innocent people who are killed is rude. 1143 01:10:32,254 --> 01:10:34,754 There are a lot of rude things about our policies. 1144 01:10:34,756 --> 01:10:36,416 - I want to make sure the people understand, 1145 01:10:36,424 --> 01:10:37,724 Actually drones have not caused 1146 01:10:37,725 --> 01:10:39,925 A huge number of civilian causalities. 1147 01:10:39,927 --> 01:10:41,527 For the most part they have been very 1148 01:10:41,528 --> 01:10:44,558 Precise, precision strikes against al-qaeda. 1149 01:10:44,564 --> 01:10:46,634 - How do you expect the people of pakistan 1150 01:10:46,632 --> 01:10:49,202 Not to have anti-american sentiments 1151 01:10:49,201 --> 01:10:52,301 When day in, and day out, we hear about drone attacks 1152 01:10:52,304 --> 01:10:55,844 That kill more innocent people than militants? 1153 01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:57,510 How do you explain that? 1154 01:10:57,508 --> 01:11:00,778 - Well I do not believe that there is any 1155 01:11:00,777 --> 01:11:03,837 Basis for your comment. 1156 01:11:49,419 --> 01:11:52,449 - Lockheed martin, boeing, dyncorp international, 1157 01:11:52,456 --> 01:11:56,016 Computer sciences corporation, and aerovironment, 1158 01:11:56,026 --> 01:11:58,256 All told eric, about 70 companies 1159 01:11:58,261 --> 01:12:00,791 Are interested in this one billion dollar contract. 1160 01:12:00,796 --> 01:12:03,856 - As we look out three, five, seven, 10 years, 1161 01:12:03,865 --> 01:12:07,565 This market remains a very much a growth market. 1162 01:13:01,684 --> 01:13:04,354 - It's the disease of permanent war that destroyed 1163 01:13:04,354 --> 01:13:05,894 The middle east. 1164 01:13:05,888 --> 01:13:08,818 It's not islamic fundamentalism. 1165 01:13:10,491 --> 01:13:14,431 It empower all of those who profit from permanent war. 1166 01:13:14,429 --> 01:13:17,699 Politically, economically and militarily. 1167 01:13:18,798 --> 01:13:20,868 - Make no mistake, a nuclear armed iran 1168 01:13:20,867 --> 01:13:23,667 Is not a challenge that can be contained. 1169 01:13:23,669 --> 01:13:25,939 It would threaten the elimination of israel. 1170 01:13:25,937 --> 01:13:28,497 The security of gulf nations. 1171 01:13:28,506 --> 01:13:31,836 And the stability of the global economy. 1172 01:13:31,842 --> 01:13:33,642 It risks triggering a nuclear arms race 1173 01:13:33,643 --> 01:13:35,743 In the region, and the unraveling of the 1174 01:13:35,745 --> 01:13:37,875 Non-proliferation treaty. 1175 01:13:38,779 --> 01:13:41,779 - And how close is iran to getting it? 1176 01:13:41,783 --> 01:13:43,823 Well let me show you. 1177 01:13:43,818 --> 01:13:46,018 I brought a diagram for you. 1178 01:13:47,954 --> 01:13:49,824 Here's the diagram. 1179 01:13:53,524 --> 01:13:55,534 This is a bomb. 1180 01:13:55,527 --> 01:13:56,857 This is a fuse. 1181 01:13:57,794 --> 01:14:01,004 Where should a red line be drawn? 1182 01:14:00,998 --> 01:14:04,428 A red line should be drawn right here. 1183 01:14:06,601 --> 01:14:09,641 - The threat from iran is a political football. 1184 01:14:09,638 --> 01:14:11,838 What was interesting was that many israelis, 1185 01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,770 Including people from the military said, 1186 01:14:14,776 --> 01:14:18,836 As long as there is an existential threat, 1187 01:14:18,846 --> 01:14:22,846 Somewhere, somehow, that it is certainly helping 1188 01:14:22,850 --> 01:14:25,820 Us expand our budgets, in ways that 1189 01:14:25,819 --> 01:14:28,949 Is not possible to do in the absence 1190 01:14:28,955 --> 01:14:33,055 On anything that can be defined as such a threat. 1191 01:14:33,059 --> 01:14:35,089 - If you were iran what would you do? 1192 01:14:35,094 --> 01:14:39,034 I mean, israel has what, three to 400 nuclear weapons. 1193 01:14:39,031 --> 01:14:40,761 They're the ones who started the damn arms race 1194 01:14:40,766 --> 01:14:42,166 In the middle east anyway. 1195 01:14:42,167 --> 01:14:44,567 They didn't sign a non-proliferation treaty. 1196 01:14:44,569 --> 01:14:46,969 They built this program in secret. 1197 01:14:46,971 --> 01:14:50,711 India and pakistan then went on to do the same thing, 1198 01:14:50,708 --> 01:14:52,708 And iran, which did sign the nuclear 1199 01:14:52,710 --> 01:14:55,780 Non-proliferation treaty, looked around 1200 01:14:55,779 --> 01:14:57,779 And realized they'd gotten screwed. 1201 01:14:57,781 --> 01:14:59,811 - the obama administration wants to sell bunker 1202 01:14:59,816 --> 01:15:01,546 Buster bombs which can penetrate 1203 01:15:01,551 --> 01:15:04,621 20 feet of solid concrete to the uae. 1204 01:15:04,620 --> 01:15:06,120 The deal is the latest u.S. Arms sale 1205 01:15:06,121 --> 01:15:08,691 To members of the gulf cooperation council, 1206 01:15:08,690 --> 01:15:10,690 Six nations that neighbor iran. 1207 01:15:15,728 --> 01:15:18,758 - War has become a commodity for several reasons. 1208 01:15:18,765 --> 01:15:20,455 One is because you need somebody to 1209 01:15:20,466 --> 01:15:22,826 Buy the stuff you produce. 1210 01:15:22,835 --> 01:15:23,995 - another u.S. Arms deal 1211 01:15:24,002 --> 01:15:26,542 With saudi arabia is in the pipeline. 1212 01:15:26,537 --> 01:15:28,467 The biggest in history. 1213 01:15:28,472 --> 01:15:30,912 This deal alone surpasses the entire global 1214 01:15:30,907 --> 01:15:34,037 Arms sale already 57 billion dollars. 1215 01:15:35,610 --> 01:15:36,880 - saudi arabia does this enormous service 1216 01:15:36,878 --> 01:15:39,478 Of recycling the arms trade. 1217 01:15:40,746 --> 01:15:42,846 But war is also a business in another sense. 1218 01:15:42,849 --> 01:15:45,819 There is a business that uses war to 1219 01:15:45,818 --> 01:15:47,978 Get it's ends established. 1220 01:15:47,986 --> 01:15:50,646 This is george orwell's 1984. 1221 01:15:51,788 --> 01:15:53,888 Two powers are always going to be in battle 1222 01:15:53,891 --> 01:15:55,821 And guess who's making out really well? 1223 01:15:55,826 --> 01:16:00,056 Of course the weapons dealers, and the people in power. 1224 01:16:03,531 --> 01:16:06,471 - Well the ultimate manifestation of the national 1225 01:16:06,468 --> 01:16:09,468 Security state is that it, not only 1226 01:16:10,471 --> 01:16:13,011 Seeks a perpetual state of war, 1227 01:16:13,007 --> 01:16:16,137 It will even go to all ends to create 1228 01:16:16,143 --> 01:16:18,683 That perpetual state of war. 1229 01:16:18,678 --> 01:16:21,578 - I am always reminded of a book 1230 01:16:21,580 --> 01:16:25,210 I read a long time ago, called invisible man. 1231 01:16:26,549 --> 01:16:29,549 And that book has a beautiful sentence, 1232 01:16:30,886 --> 01:16:32,886 "I am an invisible man. 1233 01:16:32,889 --> 01:16:35,559 "not because I don't exist, but 1234 01:16:35,558 --> 01:16:37,958 "because you choose not to see me." 1235 01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,830 - Prince bandar do you know the bin laden family? 1236 01:16:40,830 --> 01:16:44,800 - This is ironic, in the mid 80's, if you remember 1237 01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:50,100 Supporting the mujahideen to liberate afghanistan 1238 01:16:51,137 --> 01:16:52,837 From the soviets. 1239 01:16:54,339 --> 01:16:57,909 Bin laden came to thank me for my efforts 1240 01:16:57,910 --> 01:17:00,380 To bring the americans, our friends, 1241 01:17:00,379 --> 01:17:04,349 To help us against the atheist, he said, the communist. 1242 01:17:04,349 --> 01:17:08,679 - When I last saw bin laden, in this camp 1243 01:17:08,686 --> 01:17:11,146 High in the mountains of afghanistan, 1244 01:17:11,155 --> 01:17:13,715 With an air raid shelter built into the living 1245 01:17:13,724 --> 01:17:17,064 Rock of the mountain, 25, 30 feet high, 1246 01:17:18,060 --> 01:17:20,630 That camp was built by the cia. 1247 01:17:20,630 --> 01:17:22,830 Later they tried to fire cruise missiles at it, 1248 01:17:22,832 --> 01:17:23,902 Of course they knew where it was. 1249 01:17:23,899 --> 01:17:25,129 They built it. 1250 01:17:27,100 --> 01:17:29,970 No wonder bin laden kept smiling at me. 1251 01:17:29,970 --> 01:17:31,670 No wonder he did. 1252 01:17:34,172 --> 01:17:38,042 - The american saudi arabia put one billion dollars each 1253 01:17:38,043 --> 01:17:41,343 To give them arms, training, equipment, 1254 01:17:42,879 --> 01:17:45,079 We are the ones who cleared all those people to go. 1255 01:17:45,082 --> 01:17:46,252 We and you. 1256 01:17:50,885 --> 01:17:53,285 - There must be something wrong with the way we think. 1257 01:17:53,288 --> 01:17:55,348 That we can't say that the grammar 1258 01:17:55,356 --> 01:17:58,086 Of the past, is operating today. 1259 01:17:59,358 --> 01:18:02,028 - We have been pumping money, a great deal of money, 1260 01:18:02,028 --> 01:18:03,228 Without congressional authority, 1261 01:18:03,229 --> 01:18:05,659 Without any congressional oversight. 1262 01:18:05,664 --> 01:18:07,404 Prince bandar of saudi arabia is putting 1263 01:18:07,399 --> 01:18:10,169 Up some of this money for covert operations 1264 01:18:10,168 --> 01:18:12,228 In many areas of the middle east where we want 1265 01:18:12,236 --> 01:18:14,136 To stop the shiite influence; they 1266 01:18:14,137 --> 01:18:15,997 Call it the shiite crescent. 1267 01:18:16,005 --> 01:18:17,695 - Thank you... 1268 01:18:17,706 --> 01:18:19,136 - the arabic word is fitna, civil war. 1269 01:18:19,140 --> 01:18:21,140 We're in a business right now of creating, 1270 01:18:21,142 --> 01:18:23,712 In some places, sectarian violence. 1271 01:18:26,013 --> 01:18:27,283 - it's an odd situation because 1272 01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,750 We are trying to destroy and liquidate 1273 01:18:29,749 --> 01:18:31,349 Al-qaeda and marlie, but trying to give 1274 01:18:31,350 --> 01:18:34,980 Arms training to them in northern syria. 1275 01:18:36,988 --> 01:18:38,748 It really is a world gone mad, 1276 01:18:38,756 --> 01:18:40,416 But oddly enough, you have to be in syria 1277 01:18:40,424 --> 01:18:42,694 To realize how mad it is. 1278 01:18:44,727 --> 01:18:46,357 When you actually are traveling around syria, 1279 01:18:46,361 --> 01:18:48,031 And you listen to the news coming out 1280 01:18:48,029 --> 01:18:50,929 Of washington, it's like americans are 1281 01:18:50,931 --> 01:18:52,461 Living in this kind of fantasy world 1282 01:18:52,465 --> 01:18:55,125 That bears no relation to planet earth, 1283 01:18:55,134 --> 01:18:57,274 Where I'm trying to report. 1284 01:19:27,093 --> 01:19:30,103 - Today there are good terrorists, and bad terrorists. 1285 01:19:30,097 --> 01:19:32,297 The bad terrorists are those in yemen, 1286 01:19:32,299 --> 01:19:34,899 Who the United States deems to be a threat. 1287 01:19:34,901 --> 01:19:37,471 The good terrorists are those who are in syria. 1288 01:19:37,470 --> 01:19:41,040 The joke here is we've been there before. 1289 01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:44,140 I mean, if you consider the afghanistan story, 1290 01:19:44,143 --> 01:19:46,013 They've learned nothing. 1291 01:19:53,484 --> 01:19:57,824 Today if I say that the saudis are giving money 1292 01:19:57,821 --> 01:20:00,821 To groups that are in syria, that are not only 1293 01:20:00,824 --> 01:20:04,134 Al-nusra, but also the isis. 1294 01:20:05,227 --> 01:20:06,487 People will say you are a conspiracy theorist, 1295 01:20:06,495 --> 01:20:08,125 But what I'm just trying to say is 1296 01:20:08,129 --> 01:20:10,759 In the moment of the contemporary, 1297 01:20:10,764 --> 01:20:14,834 This grammar of dangerous politics 1298 01:20:15,432 --> 01:20:17,272 Sounds insane. 1299 01:20:27,110 --> 01:20:31,150 So what appears to have been a conspiracy at the time, 1300 01:20:31,147 --> 01:20:35,077 When documents appear, turns out to be true. 1301 01:20:36,783 --> 01:20:39,283 - We must address the cycle of conflict, 1302 01:20:39,286 --> 01:20:42,246 Especially sectarian conflict, that 1303 01:20:42,255 --> 01:20:45,415 Creates the conditions that terrorists prey upon. 1304 01:20:45,424 --> 01:20:48,994 - in public they say, we have to end terrorism. 1305 01:20:48,994 --> 01:20:52,364 Meanwhile, this private work of getting involved 1306 01:20:52,364 --> 01:20:56,804 In conflicts stirs the pot, which produces 1307 01:20:56,801 --> 01:21:00,971 Characters that appear to become terrorists. 1308 01:21:00,971 --> 01:21:04,011 Which reinforces the public narrative, 1309 01:21:04,007 --> 01:21:07,807 And then makes things like intervention okay. 1310 01:21:08,576 --> 01:21:11,336 - Good morning everybody. 1311 01:21:11,346 --> 01:21:14,306 Last night on my orders, america's armed forces 1312 01:21:14,315 --> 01:21:17,815 Began strikes against isil targets in syria. 1313 01:21:25,924 --> 01:21:27,424 - just ahead of air strikes in syria, 1314 01:21:27,426 --> 01:21:31,226 Defense firms, lockheed martin, northrop, raytheon, 1315 01:21:31,229 --> 01:21:33,559 And general dynamics corporation all set 1316 01:21:33,564 --> 01:21:35,234 Stock price records. 1317 01:21:35,232 --> 01:21:37,032 Their shareholders are making money off 1318 01:21:37,033 --> 01:21:41,943 The unusually large number of conflicts around the world. 1319 01:21:49,076 --> 01:21:50,406 - every two years or so, the israeli military 1320 01:21:50,410 --> 01:21:53,040 Attacks the gaza strip and right after 1321 01:21:53,045 --> 01:21:55,075 There is a trade show, in which israeli 1322 01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,380 Weapon companies show their technologies. 1323 01:21:58,983 --> 01:22:02,483 Which are becoming an increasingly important 1324 01:22:02,486 --> 01:22:04,246 And very significant part of the israeli 1325 01:22:04,254 --> 01:22:07,294 Economy depend on those wars. 1326 01:22:07,290 --> 01:22:10,490 They try to market, "we've already used 1327 01:22:10,493 --> 01:22:13,133 "that on actual human beings." 1328 01:22:13,128 --> 01:22:15,328 By making that claim they're able to compete 1329 01:22:15,330 --> 01:22:19,000 With weapon manufacturers from other countries. 1330 01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:20,230 The United States is the biggest 1331 01:22:20,234 --> 01:22:23,244 Supplier of military aid to israel. 1332 01:22:23,237 --> 01:22:25,037 This attack on gaza is also a trade show 1333 01:22:25,038 --> 01:22:28,108 For the united states arms industry. 1334 01:22:48,425 --> 01:22:50,215 - Iran and isis are competing for the 1335 01:22:50,226 --> 01:22:53,056 Crown of militant islam. 1336 01:22:53,062 --> 01:22:56,202 One calls itself the islamic republic. 1337 01:22:56,198 --> 01:22:59,268 The other calls itself the islamic state. 1338 01:22:59,267 --> 01:23:02,367 Both want to impose a militant islamic empire. 1339 01:23:02,370 --> 01:23:04,240 First in the region. 1340 01:23:04,238 --> 01:23:06,608 And then on the entire world. 1341 01:23:06,607 --> 01:23:08,407 They just disagree among themselves 1342 01:23:08,408 --> 01:23:12,278 Who will be the ruler of that empire. 1343 01:23:12,278 --> 01:23:15,308 In this deadly game of thrones, there's 1344 01:23:15,314 --> 01:23:18,254 No place for america, or for israel. 1345 01:23:18,250 --> 01:23:21,420 - Today, after two years of negotiations, 1346 01:23:21,419 --> 01:23:24,919 The United States, together with our international partners, 1347 01:23:24,922 --> 01:23:26,392 Has achieved something that decades 1348 01:23:26,390 --> 01:23:28,390 Of animosity has not. 1349 01:23:29,425 --> 01:23:32,385 A comprehensive long-term deal with iran, 1350 01:23:32,395 --> 01:23:35,625 That will prevent it from obtaining a nuclear weapon. 1351 01:23:35,631 --> 01:23:37,501 - This was a very difficult negotiations, 1352 01:23:37,499 --> 01:23:40,469 And part of it is because of this 1353 01:23:40,468 --> 01:23:43,468 Entrenched and compounded mistrust 1354 01:23:43,471 --> 01:23:45,641 That we have built between ourselves mutually 1355 01:23:45,639 --> 01:23:48,369 For the last three, four decades. 1356 01:23:48,375 --> 01:23:50,635 But I'm happy that, we simply write, 1357 01:23:50,643 --> 01:23:54,283 Diplomacy pre-write, that people exercised 1358 01:23:54,279 --> 01:23:56,649 A great deal of restraint and patience, 1359 01:23:56,648 --> 01:23:59,478 And wisdom, and we are where we are, 1360 01:23:59,484 --> 01:24:03,194 And I hope this will be a good beginning. 1361 01:24:05,321 --> 01:24:07,361 - as this nuclear deal goes through 1362 01:24:07,357 --> 01:24:08,957 We're still dealing with the problem 1363 01:24:08,958 --> 01:24:12,158 That the states of this region are collapsing. 1364 01:24:12,161 --> 01:24:13,961 And the void that they will fill, 1365 01:24:13,962 --> 01:24:18,132 You will see more violence and you will see more weapons. 1366 01:24:18,132 --> 01:24:19,432 It is important to understand 1367 01:24:19,433 --> 01:24:22,433 That that's not a result of this deal. 1368 01:24:22,436 --> 01:24:25,436 That is a result of the paradigm not shifting 1369 01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:27,469 Towards de-militarization, and collective 1370 01:24:27,474 --> 01:24:29,374 Security, soon enough. 1371 01:24:30,641 --> 01:24:32,981 - The saudis and the israelis are on the same page. 1372 01:24:32,977 --> 01:24:34,407 They worry about iran... 1373 01:24:34,411 --> 01:24:37,311 - And that's not new, they've been worried for a long... 1374 01:24:37,313 --> 01:24:38,553 - but can they do anything about it? 1375 01:24:38,547 --> 01:24:42,417 - Well they can get their own weapons. 1376 01:24:42,417 --> 01:24:44,047 - this is a region that has more arms 1377 01:24:44,051 --> 01:24:47,421 Per capita than any other region in the world. 1378 01:24:47,421 --> 01:24:49,391 Much thanks to the defense industry, 1379 01:24:49,389 --> 01:24:51,359 Israel and some of the arab states are 1380 01:24:51,357 --> 01:24:53,387 Going to be able to buy more weapons, 1381 01:24:53,392 --> 01:24:56,032 And more advanced weapons. 1382 01:24:56,027 --> 01:24:59,357 If the nuclear threat from iran is decreasing, 1383 01:24:59,363 --> 01:25:01,263 Why should these other countries 1384 01:25:01,264 --> 01:25:04,674 Get a chance to actually arm themselves more? 1385 01:25:04,667 --> 01:25:06,567 - Pakistan is a friend of saudi arabia. 1386 01:25:06,568 --> 01:25:08,468 Pakistan has nuclear weapons. 1387 01:25:08,470 --> 01:25:10,670 Are you in discussions with pakistan about, 1388 01:25:10,672 --> 01:25:14,712 Perhaps, getting a nuclear bomb from pakistan? 1389 01:25:14,709 --> 01:25:16,809 - But wolf we've known each other for 25 years, 1390 01:25:16,811 --> 01:25:20,411 You don't really expect me to answer this question. 1391 01:25:24,816 --> 01:25:26,646 - we're not going to have a truly 1392 01:25:26,652 --> 01:25:30,452 De-militarization in the region, unless 1393 01:25:30,455 --> 01:25:33,885 Israel's nuclear arsenal also is addressed. 1394 01:25:35,191 --> 01:25:36,491 The significant of this peace deal 1395 01:25:36,493 --> 01:25:38,693 Is that it is a game changer in the region. 1396 01:25:38,695 --> 01:25:40,625 And it's gonna be a question about the 1397 01:25:40,630 --> 01:25:42,600 Political willingness of leaders 1398 01:25:42,598 --> 01:25:45,428 To whether they will pursue these opportunities, 1399 01:25:45,434 --> 01:25:48,874 Or whether they will fall into the patterns of the past. 1400 01:26:10,522 --> 01:26:12,522 - Once you start a war, 1401 01:26:15,759 --> 01:26:18,259 You open a kind of pandora's box. 1402 01:26:18,262 --> 01:26:21,502 You don't control it, it controls you. 1403 01:26:23,297 --> 01:26:26,367 The use of that kind of violence has 1404 01:26:26,367 --> 01:26:29,497 Unforeseen consequences, that no one can predict. 1405 01:26:29,503 --> 01:26:33,243 And it propels you in directions 1406 01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:34,870 You never thought you'd go. 1407 01:26:34,874 --> 01:26:36,814 That's what war does. 1408 01:26:42,247 --> 01:26:47,177 So, the images of war are very carefully controlled 1409 01:26:47,184 --> 01:26:50,454 And countered by the lives that have 1410 01:26:50,453 --> 01:26:54,223 Been disseminated through every institution 1411 01:26:54,223 --> 01:26:57,793 In society, schools, government, 1412 01:26:57,793 --> 01:27:00,763 Entertainment, the press. 1413 01:27:02,495 --> 01:27:04,625 When you shatter the myth, 1414 01:27:04,631 --> 01:27:06,301 And when you understand, especially 1415 01:27:06,299 --> 01:27:08,699 What techno-war, industrial war is about, 1416 01:27:08,701 --> 01:27:11,801 Which is really about murder, about slaughter, 1417 01:27:11,804 --> 01:27:13,574 People would be so repulsed. 1418 01:27:13,572 --> 01:27:16,472 It would be very hard to wage war. 1419 01:32:03,910 --> 01:32:04,780 ♪ I see no one 1420 01:32:04,778 --> 01:32:07,908 ♪ as happy as I am 1421 01:32:08,980 --> 01:32:13,150 ♪ I feel like a 1422 01:32:20,790 --> 01:32:25,490 ♪ darling let's dance together till morning ♪ 105354

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