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♪ so bring on the
light fantastic
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♪ I'll show you
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♪ if you should ask it
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♪ let's dance together
till morning ♪
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- got a terrific
view of the kick mist
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With the cdr now
appearing from behind me.
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- still...
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We are at war.
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I'm responsible for the
deployment of thousands
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Of young americans, to
battle in a distant land.
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And some will kill.
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And some will be killed.
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And so I come here
with an acute sense
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Of the costs of armed conflict.
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Filled with difficult
questions about
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The relationship
between war and peace,
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And our effort to replace
one with the other.
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- okay
crib we copy that.
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We've got tv pictures again.
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- hefty,
black control systems.
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- they were five
months into world war I,
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Both sides were in trenches.
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They were just mass slaughter
across the landscape.
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Men were standing up sleeping.
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They were in their
own feces, and their
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Dead comrades were sitting
there in no man's land.
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They couldn't even get them and
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Bring them back for burial.
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It was christmas eve and
the german high command
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Had sent little christmas trees.
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It was like a stage
set, all of a sudden
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Across the german front, you saw
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These little christmas
trees lighting up,
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And then the allies
heard silent night
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Being sung by the germans.
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And they started applauding.
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And then all of a
sudden a couple of guys
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On both sides get
out of the trenches
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Areat war,
who turned blood into gold.
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And their profits were as
secret as they were immense.
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All of them are
looking ahead to war.
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- I stand before you tonight
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In my red star chiffon
evening gown...
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My face softly made up, and
my fair hair gently waved.
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The iron lady of
the western world.
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Then thousands get
out of the trenches,
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And they embraced each
other, 100,000 men.
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- All no man's land as
far as we could see.
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It was grey and cocky.
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The early were
smoking and talking.
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Shaking hands,
exchanging names and
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Addresses for after the war,
to write to one another.
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- everybody back
in your trenches, you know.
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And shouting, the generals
behind must have seen it,
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And got a bit suspicious.
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So what they did,
they gave orders
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For a battery of guns
behind us to fire.
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And officers fired
their revolvers at
the gerry's, you know.
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Course that started
the war again.
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Woah we were
crushing 'em to hell.
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- this was a
war to end all wars.
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This was the war to make the
world safe for democracy.
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At least 21,000 new millionaires
were made in the u.S.
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Billions and billions of dollars
would be piled up by a few.
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Munition makers, ship
builders, meat packers.
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And let us not
forget the bankers,
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Who financed the great war,
who turned blood into gold.
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And their profits were as
secret as they were immense.
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All of them are
looking ahead to war.
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- I stand before you tonight
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In my red star chiffon
evening gown...
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My face softly made up, and
my fair hair gently waved.
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The iron lady of
the western world.
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- the
al-yamamah deal was this
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Extraordinary deal
between the united kingdom
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And saudi arabia, in which
ronald regean wanted to
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Sell the saudis
billions and billions
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Dollars worth of equipment.
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But the israeli
lobby stopped it.
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And congress
wouldn't approve it,
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Because they feared arming
saudi would threaten israel.
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So ronald reagan handed
the deal over, effectively,
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To his political soul
mate, margaret thatcher.
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- You ain't seen nothing yet.
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- You are a very
tough act to follow.
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- When we stumbled on
the saudi arms deal,
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The al-yamamah arms
deal, we really started
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To stumble on a central
feature of british politics,
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Over the last 30 years.
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- His royal highness,
prince bandar,
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Has been at the heart of
many of the great world
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Events of the past 30 years.
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I was always pleased to see
him when I was prime minister,
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Because he brought
me extraordinary
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Insights and bold proposals.
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- she informed
us, she considered
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Saudi arabia as a
strong friend, and would
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Be willing to
support the kingdom
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With whatever the kingdom needs.
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End of discussion, from
there on everything
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Else was technical.
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- He explained to
mrs. Thatcher that
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This was a deal
with saudi arabia,
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And therefore things
would end differently.
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They wanted 43 billion
pounds worth of weaponry.
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That was 6 billion
pounds in commissions.
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The vast majority, or what most
people understand as bribes.
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- We will continue to work
together against the terrorists,
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Who threaten the way of
life of our citizens.
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Was a man called eddy
cunningham, actually.
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He said, "I've been working
for a travel company,
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"and we had a kind
of slush fund, we use
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"to distribute to
saudis and other arabs
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"when they came to
britain, for bae,
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"all to help the path
of arms deals along."
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When saudi military
officers would come along,
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He would present them
with canteens of cutlery,
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That was something
that they liked.
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Another thing they
liked was girls,
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So he would take
them out on the town,
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And get them girls.
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- To be honest, it seemed
like quite small beer.
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Payments made, some of them for
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Rather un-islamic activities.
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Gaming chips, there were
talks about call girls,
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- There's only two things that
count in business my friend.
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Money and sex.
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The rest, you can write
as much as you like,
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Is absolute garbage.
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You can make a weapon beautiful,
depends on your secretary.
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Because, they are
more distracted
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Looking at your secretary's ass
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Than thinking what the
hell you're talking about.
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And that is, sometimes,
all the edge you need.
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I had to use an escort
agency called blue orchids,
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Because of the special taste of
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The chief of staff of the army,
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Who liked blondes
with silicone tits.
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We had their secretary
of the embassy
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Come and review the photos.
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And he said, "I want this
one, I want this one,
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"I want this one,
I want this one."
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I had the girls I arrived
with one day before.
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And I said, girls, I
know you've all been paid
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Handsomely for this
but, do me a favor,
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If you get any pillow
talk that is relevant
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Please bring it across
because I could use it.
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And for each,
interesting information,
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I will give another
3,000 year bonus.
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So with 60 grand, I signed a
contract worth three million.
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So it wasn't bad deal.
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- And then my phone rang again,
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And it was another whistle
blower and he said,
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"you have no idea what it is
that you're getting into here."
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And he said, "this
slush fund is much, much
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Our job was to look after
the really high level people.
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Those who used to
come to England,
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Who were being bribed,
essentially, by bae,
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Were people of the
level of the head of
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The saudi air force,
who was a royal prince.
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We would fly them
to los angeles,
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And they would buy
cars and dresses,
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And it wasn't shopping
like you and I would think.
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In the end, when they
gathered together all
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Their shopping, we would
charter an entire jumbo jet
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To fly it all back
to saudi arabia.
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- It was an attempt to
try and trace through
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The bank accounts who the
ultimate beneficiaries are
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That the case became
really very serious,
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As the trail appeared
to lead towards
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Senior members of the
saudi royal family.
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- the most outrageous
example was that bae,
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In order to smooth the
way with prince bandar,
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At one point made him
a president of a huge
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Commercial airliner,
all of his very own.
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Which he promptly had
painted in the grey
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And silver colors of
the dallas cowboys,
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Who were his favorite
american team.
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And he used to fly around
in that, quite cheerfully.
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- The case centered
on establishing the
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Ultimate beneficiaries
of exceptionally
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Large amounts of money
paid by british aerospace
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For consultancy services.
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- there's evidence
that mark thatcher,
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Mrs. Thatcher's son,
got 12 million in cash
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For his work as a fixer.
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- This is a fire nine mill.
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It's okay, it's not loaded.
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Don't worry.
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It's a very beautiful
weapon, it's austrian made.
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If you want to
sell on the market,
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And you're looking probably
at about 3,500 euros.
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- and why do
you keep it in the house?
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- because
I'm a soldier.
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- and you
can do that legally?
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- Yes and no, but yeah,
more or less you can.
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As long as it's in the house.
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And you don't shoot the
cat of the neighbor.
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I got nothing against
money, I don't mind paying
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Bribes to politicians,
it's part of the deal.
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The thing about
politicians is that
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They're very much
like prostitutes,
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But only more expensive.
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The politics is dictated by
the whims of the arms industry.
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Politicians are nothing more
than sales reps my dear friend.
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They have as much
power as a middle
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Ranking executive
in lockheed martin.
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At the end of the day
they do what they're told.
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- when an
executive goes to bribe
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A foreign official,
he says to himself,
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Look I've taken a lot
of risk to take this
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Five million dollars, that I'm
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Paying to the prime
minister of xyz.
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He makes an arrangement
with prime minister of xyz.
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I'll hand over the five million,
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But you take half of
that five million,
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And you send it to the following
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Bank account in switzerland.
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We'll share in this largess.
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The first time an
executive does that,
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And he collects 2.5
million dollars,
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He says, "wow, this is a
good business to be in."
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And within moments
of that realization,
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He is now no longer in the
business of selling airplanes,
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He's in the business
of selling bribes.
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And he's now scouring the world
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For somebody to find to bribe.
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♪ regrets
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♪ and I've had a few
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♪ but then again
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♪ too few to mention
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♪ I did
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♪ what I had to do
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♪ and saw it through
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♪ without exemption
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♪ I planned
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♪ each chartered course
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♪ each careful step
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♪ along the by-way
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♪ and more
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♪ much more than this
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♪ I did it
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♪ my way
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- And then the phone rang again.
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And this was somebody
who said, "you have
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"no idea what you're
getting into."
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He said, "this whole
bae thing is much,
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"much bigger, goes
right to the very top."
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What he had was
something that you
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Never see as a journalist.
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Swiss bank records of
international covert payments,
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Going all over the world.
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He showed me how bae had
set up a whole system
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With lloyds bank, under
which they channeled
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Secret payments into the
british virgin islands
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Offshore company
called red diamond.
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And from red diamond
the money went into
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This guy's swiss
bank account, and he
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Then used it to distribute
to the local politicians,
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Taking a big chunk
for himself of course.
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- I mean I can
certainly assure you,
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I mean that we, and I
believe most companies
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Are not in the business
of making payments
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Passing, as you suggest,
large sums of money
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I mean it is just not the
way me business is done.
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- We were actually
able to publish
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What was our most dangerous
story, that prince bandar
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Had been given not just a plane,
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But over the years, a total
of one billion pounds.
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- We did not invent
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Corruption.
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I mean adam and
eve were in heaven,
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And they had hanky-panky
and they had to
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Go down to earth, so...
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And this is human nature.
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- I salute a
prince, a statesman,
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And a friend.
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- What is greed?
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Of course none of us are greedy,
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It's only the other
fella who's greedy.
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This...
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The world runs on individual's
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Pursuing their
separate interests.
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- All those people who
believe that greed,
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Violence, et cetera,
these primal,
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So called primal instincts,
are the real instincts,
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And everything else is
a social construction,
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They've lost their mind.
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And for the last
50 years, at least,
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Policy has been made based
on the assumption of greed.
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And it's ruined the world.
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- Alright.
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- Mr. Reagan, if you would.
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- Patronites believe there
is no nature of society,
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So we have to nurture
individualism.
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I don't accept that at all.
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I think there are
very many, good public
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Policy initiatives
for creating society.
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Welcome to beirut.
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They are saying hello to you.
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There's a combination
ak-47 kalashnikov.
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A society that
decides that the bulk
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Of it's budget is going to
go to arms manufacturing,
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Building up a
military, et cetera,
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They have made a moral decision.
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That militarism
is more important
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Than the creation of
well-being for the population.
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It's not the world
I want to live in.
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I want to live in
the real world.
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And the real world is
people by real emotions.
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Including love and generosity.
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- My god, if you
want, is freedom.
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The freedom of human
beings, of individuals,
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To pursue their own values.
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- I think what the term freedom
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Means is economic license.
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And it's the economic
license of those
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Who control property, and
those who control capital,
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Has in fact been a threat,
not only to equality,
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But a threat to the
freedom of peoples
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All over the world,
and not only in europe
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And the united
states, but in africa,
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In asia, and in latin america.
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- I want you to
name me any society
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In which you've had any large
measure of that freedom.
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Where capitalism
and free enterprise
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Has not been the
predominate mechanism.
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- The free enterprise system
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Has spread through
the force of arms,
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And those arms were
wielded by governments.
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That was government
intervention,
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Under the name of the
free enterprise system,
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But a government
intervention which destroyed
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The freedoms of many people.
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Not least of which are
the people of chile.
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- From the 1950's, all the
way through the 1970's,
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The cia and the u.S.
Military were engaged
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In covert actions throughout
central and latin america.
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Throughout africa, really
throughout the world.
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Where they were assassinating
populist leaders,
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They were backing up
right-wing military juntas,
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Funding and arming
death squads, like the
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Contras in nicaragua, or
battalion 316 in honduras.
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And there were these
spate of assassinations
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Across the globe.
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- In countries like
mine, people have
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Been killed to be quiet.
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To know that any day,
any time you're going to
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Be killed, you don't know
how, but it's coming.
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We were fighting an
oligarch, and still
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We are fighting,
you know, oligarchs.
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Minds that don't want to
work on inclusiveness,
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But just extraction.
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It's not only about
taking from the earth,
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But taking from the people.
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Even your dreams get colonized.
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- The last half of what
is called the cold war,
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Turned out to be
a very hot war for
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Many parts of the world.
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From the standpoint of
what iqbal lamet calls
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The victims of, what I
will think of really as,
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Of people trying to
make their own futures.
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There was an attempt
in the global south
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To create an alternative
imagination for people.
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But in the early 1970's,
this attempt was destroyed.
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And it was stopped through
a real, genuine attempt,
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By the global law
to take over the
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Institutions of the
world, including
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The world bank, the imf.
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So, it's not simply
that the people
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Of the south were
incapable of carrying
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Forward their dreams.
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I use a very strong word.
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These dreams were assassinated.
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It's not just the
one off killings,
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The coup here, the coup there.
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It's the entire dream
that had to be killed.
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- The joint hearings
of the house select
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Committee to
investigate covert arms
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Transaction with iran.
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And the select committee
on secret military
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Assistance to iran and
the nicaraguan opposition.
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We will come to order.
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- Congress began to
address what they perceived
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To be an insanely out of
control series of covert
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Actions with little to no
congressional oversight.
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- We have been
supplying lethal weapons
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To terrorist nations,
involving the u.S. Government
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In military activities in
direct contravention of the law.
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And lying to the congress.
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Now I believe that
democracy cannot survive
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That kind of abuse.
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- And people like dick
cheney, and donald rumsfeld,
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Who were relatively new
to government at the time,
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00:25:07,731 --> 00:25:09,801
Did not like when
congress said we need
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To step in and confront the
national security state.
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And what's become a very
out of control kill program.
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Cheney then went on, during
the reagan years in the 80's
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To serve in congress,
and when the iran-contra
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00:25:21,875 --> 00:25:24,905
Scandal broke out into the open,
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00:25:24,911 --> 00:25:27,511
Cheney did not like
congress being involved
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00:25:27,513 --> 00:25:29,883
With anything that the
executive branch was doing.
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00:25:32,084 --> 00:25:33,784
And you had this
utter scandal that
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00:25:33,785 --> 00:25:36,885
Emanated from the highest
echelons of power.
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00:25:36,888 --> 00:25:38,848
And the reagan
administration was acting
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As though it had
nothing to do with it.
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- I've told you all that I know.
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And you know, the
truth of the matter is,
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For quite some long
time, all that you knew
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Is what I told you.
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- did
they deceive you?
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You didn't answer whether
they deceived you.
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00:25:52,700 --> 00:25:54,700
Mr. President!
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- Our witness this morning
is mr. Robert mcfarlane,
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The former national security
advisor to the president.
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00:26:04,143 --> 00:26:05,913
Mr. Mcfarlane we
welcome you to the
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00:26:05,911 --> 00:26:09,681
Committee and we look
forward to your testimony.
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- Mr. Mcfarlane,
did you have any
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00:26:14,718 --> 00:26:17,248
Discussion about the possibility
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00:26:19,721 --> 00:26:23,891
Of, in effect, farming out
the whole contra support
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00:26:23,892 --> 00:26:27,832
Operations in nicaragua
to another country,
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00:26:27,829 --> 00:26:30,059
Which we'll call country one?
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- Yes that's correct.
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- and did you,
in fact, succeed in obtaining
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Money from another country,
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00:26:39,272 --> 00:26:42,712
Which we'll call country two?
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00:26:44,842 --> 00:26:46,812
- That's correct.
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00:26:48,012 --> 00:26:51,052
I had the practice of
meeting periodically
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00:26:51,048 --> 00:26:54,048
With the official
from country two,
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00:26:55,217 --> 00:26:57,847
About assistance
we could provide.
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00:26:57,853 --> 00:26:59,923
In some cases arm sales.
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00:27:01,955 --> 00:27:05,115
And he intended to
provide a contribution
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00:27:05,125 --> 00:27:09,085
Of a million dollars per
month, to the contras,
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00:27:09,095 --> 00:27:11,725
Through the end of the year.
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00:27:11,730 --> 00:27:13,660
- you have no
problems working with the cia?
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00:27:13,666 --> 00:27:14,926
- We have no problem
working with the
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00:27:14,933 --> 00:27:16,873
United states
government, and unless
439
00:27:16,868 --> 00:27:18,698
The cia does not work
for the United States
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00:27:18,703 --> 00:27:20,773
Government, then I think
we have a bigger problem.
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00:27:20,771 --> 00:27:22,741
- There have been occasions
where some americans
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00:27:22,739 --> 00:27:23,969
Have questioned
that, as you know.
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00:27:25,174 --> 00:27:26,374
- Well thank heavens
those occasions
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00:27:26,375 --> 00:27:28,835
Was not in connection
with saudi arabia.
445
00:27:42,254 --> 00:27:45,124
- I think that there
was a substantial
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00:27:45,124 --> 00:27:48,164
Shadow government, trying to run
447
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,960
Foreign affairs for
the United States.
448
00:27:50,962 --> 00:27:52,832
- These events have
been characterized
449
00:27:52,830 --> 00:27:54,800
By some pretty
strong statements.
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00:27:54,798 --> 00:27:57,268
We've heard talk of a grave
constitutional crisis,
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00:27:57,267 --> 00:28:00,197
And even been
treated to talk about
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00:28:00,203 --> 00:28:02,243
A coup in the white house.
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00:28:02,238 --> 00:28:04,038
- Not only does
cheney, sort of, defend
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00:28:04,039 --> 00:28:07,369
Iran-contra, but he
argues that iran-contra
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Is actually a model
for how the u.S.
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00:28:09,377 --> 00:28:13,007
Should be conducting it's
national security policy.
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00:28:13,013 --> 00:28:15,783
He is a radical
subscriber to this notion
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00:28:15,782 --> 00:28:17,752
Of the unitary executive.
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00:28:17,750 --> 00:28:19,050
Effectively what
you're doing is saying
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00:28:19,051 --> 00:28:20,981
On certain parts
of american policy
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00:28:20,986 --> 00:28:25,016
We don't have a democracy,
we have a dictatorship.
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00:28:25,023 --> 00:28:25,993
- As a matter of fact I was...
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00:28:27,358 --> 00:28:29,928
Very definitely involved
in the decisions
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00:28:29,927 --> 00:28:32,987
About support to the
freedom fighters.
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00:28:32,996 --> 00:28:34,896
My idea to begin with.
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00:28:36,297 --> 00:28:38,197
- In my opinion there's
no justification
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00:28:38,199 --> 00:28:39,969
For further restrictions
on the power
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00:28:39,967 --> 00:28:42,267
And flexibility of
future presidents.
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00:28:49,874 --> 00:28:52,084
- The national security
league today is mostly
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00:28:52,077 --> 00:28:54,377
Composed of people
who hit the revolving
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00:28:54,379 --> 00:28:57,109
Door multiple times
during their life.
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00:28:57,115 --> 00:28:58,475
- the nomination
of richard b. Cheney
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00:28:58,483 --> 00:29:01,223
To be secretary of
defense is confirmed.
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00:29:01,219 --> 00:29:03,349
- they make a name
for themselves in the private
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00:29:03,354 --> 00:29:07,224
Industry, and then they
come into the government.
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00:29:07,224 --> 00:29:10,234
This revolving door keeps
the national security league
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00:29:10,227 --> 00:29:13,357
Very small, and very wealthy.
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00:29:13,363 --> 00:29:16,133
And increasing it's wealth
as it goes up the chain.
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00:29:16,132 --> 00:29:18,202
To the extent that then,
when you get to the top
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00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,200
As cheney did,
then you can become
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00:29:20,202 --> 00:29:23,872
A member of the plutocracy,
that runs the country too.
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00:29:23,872 --> 00:29:25,142
- This is an impressive crowd.
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00:29:25,139 --> 00:29:26,839
The have's.
484
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:27,840
And the have more's.
485
00:29:29,075 --> 00:29:32,335
- Cheney commissioned a
study, by halliburton,
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00:29:32,344 --> 00:29:35,854
To find out how much more
of the defense department
487
00:29:35,847 --> 00:29:37,107
Could be privatized.
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00:29:37,114 --> 00:29:38,054
- halliburton.
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00:29:38,048 --> 00:29:39,948
Proud to serve our troops.
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00:29:39,949 --> 00:29:42,519
- Halliburton was elated
to get this million
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00:29:42,518 --> 00:29:45,348
Dollar contract, and
of course returned
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00:29:45,354 --> 00:29:47,954
A verdict that,
"oh, mr. Secretary,
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00:29:47,956 --> 00:29:51,116
"lots more of it
can be privatized."
494
00:29:56,327 --> 00:29:58,187
- Dick cheney leaves
the defense department
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00:29:58,196 --> 00:30:00,096
And goes and heads
halliburton himself.
496
00:30:00,097 --> 00:30:02,257
And he spends the
entire 1990's, building
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00:30:02,265 --> 00:30:05,225
Up the halliburton war empire.
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00:30:05,234 --> 00:30:07,804
- Well, if we're gonna
talk about star wars,
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00:30:07,803 --> 00:30:09,843
We might as well
invite darth vader.
500
00:30:18,110 --> 00:30:20,410
I'm happy to accept.
501
00:30:20,413 --> 00:30:23,083
- Then he comes back into
power as vice president,
502
00:30:23,082 --> 00:30:25,852
And then they start
hiring halliburton to...
503
00:30:25,851 --> 00:30:28,791
In advance even of u.S.
Troops going in to iraq,
504
00:30:28,787 --> 00:30:30,817
Halliburton personnel
and equipment was
505
00:30:30,822 --> 00:30:32,192
Being deployed to the gulf.
506
00:30:32,190 --> 00:30:34,020
It's hard to look
at this and not say,
507
00:30:34,025 --> 00:30:36,455
These guys had a
very long term plan
508
00:30:36,460 --> 00:30:38,860
For how they were
going to increase
509
00:30:38,862 --> 00:30:43,002
The powerful infrastructure
of private companies.
510
00:30:44,865 --> 00:30:47,395
What we've essentially
done is to create
511
00:30:47,401 --> 00:30:51,101
A network of corporations
that have the
512
00:30:51,104 --> 00:30:54,274
Fire power of small
nation-states.
513
00:30:54,273 --> 00:30:57,173
That could, you
know, overthrow some
514
00:30:57,175 --> 00:31:00,175
Small governments
around the world.
515
00:31:01,311 --> 00:31:03,451
- In essence, we in
the United States
516
00:31:03,447 --> 00:31:07,447
Have privatized the ultimate
public function, war.
517
00:31:18,358 --> 00:31:22,158
- You know bombs have got a
time limit, they're like food.
518
00:31:22,162 --> 00:31:26,262
You know munitions has got,
you know, sell-by dates.
519
00:31:26,266 --> 00:31:27,496
You gotta get rid of it.
520
00:31:46,847 --> 00:31:50,077
In iraq, the f-16s
and f-18s were firing
521
00:31:50,084 --> 00:31:52,324
Six million dollars
within seconds,
522
00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:56,089
Coming back, re-arming
and going up again.
523
00:32:08,398 --> 00:32:10,468
- there's no
hope of ending war,
524
00:32:10,467 --> 00:32:12,197
Because there's
always a small cobble
525
00:32:12,202 --> 00:32:16,242
Of people for whom war is
really, really good business.
526
00:32:17,938 --> 00:32:21,238
It doesn't matter that we're
losing the war in afghanistan.
527
00:32:21,242 --> 00:32:23,282
Halliburton could care less.
528
00:32:23,277 --> 00:32:26,607
It's good for them,
good for profit.
529
00:33:16,423 --> 00:33:17,993
Well we've undergone a corporate
530
00:33:17,992 --> 00:33:20,392
Coup d'état, in slow motion.
531
00:33:20,394 --> 00:33:22,594
To quote john ralston saul.
532
00:33:22,596 --> 00:33:25,196
35,000 lobbyists in
washington, they write
533
00:33:25,198 --> 00:33:28,528
The legislation,
they write the bills.
534
00:33:28,534 --> 00:33:31,234
- All it takes is
one phone call,
535
00:33:31,236 --> 00:33:33,166
From somebody on
the hill, to someone
536
00:33:33,171 --> 00:33:36,341
In the pentagon, saying,
"hey, turn on the dogs,
537
00:33:36,340 --> 00:33:37,970
"the hill's out to
get our program.
538
00:33:37,974 --> 00:33:39,974
"the guy's in the
senate aren't on board,
539
00:33:39,976 --> 00:33:41,936
"we need you to turn
on the gucci shoe guys
540
00:33:41,944 --> 00:33:43,384
"to straighten this thing out."
541
00:33:43,378 --> 00:33:46,378
The gucci shoe guys
being the lobbyists.
542
00:33:46,381 --> 00:33:48,481
And what this does is
just lock the system up,
543
00:33:48,483 --> 00:33:49,623
And that's the whole
name of the game.
544
00:33:49,617 --> 00:33:52,277
It's called political
engineering.
545
00:33:52,286 --> 00:33:56,316
And unlike political science,
political engineering is real.
546
00:33:58,323 --> 00:34:00,623
One of the most important
things to understand,
547
00:34:00,626 --> 00:34:03,256
It essentially
creates what we call
548
00:34:03,261 --> 00:34:06,031
A self-licking ice-cream cone.
549
00:34:07,063 --> 00:34:09,133
And it's like a
perpetual motion machine
550
00:34:09,132 --> 00:34:12,332
For getting ever
increasing defense budgets.
551
00:34:12,335 --> 00:34:14,695
The way we do it is
by downplaying the
552
00:34:14,704 --> 00:34:17,444
Future consequences
to start a new weapon.
553
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,370
We over promise
it's performance,
554
00:34:19,375 --> 00:34:21,575
Under promise it's cost.
555
00:34:21,577 --> 00:34:24,577
We then, systematically
spread dollars, jobs
556
00:34:24,580 --> 00:34:27,410
And profits to as many
congressional districts
557
00:34:27,416 --> 00:34:29,516
As quickly as possible,
so that everybody
558
00:34:29,518 --> 00:34:31,348
Has skin in the game.
559
00:34:34,754 --> 00:34:37,394
- The people who are
invested in this stage,
560
00:34:37,390 --> 00:34:40,390
Are people like the largest
defense contractor in the world.
561
00:34:40,393 --> 00:34:42,033
Lockheed martin.
562
00:34:42,027 --> 00:34:45,527
They will die before
they see it go.
563
00:34:45,530 --> 00:34:47,300
- and while
we don't know what's
564
00:34:47,298 --> 00:34:49,768
Going to change the world next,
565
00:34:51,067 --> 00:34:54,197
We're probably
already working on it.
566
00:34:57,306 --> 00:34:59,136
- Lockheed martin
basically gets in
567
00:34:59,142 --> 00:35:02,082
Like an octopus, and
lifts it's tentacles,
568
00:35:02,078 --> 00:35:04,648
You know, in all branches
of the government.
569
00:35:04,647 --> 00:35:06,707
And then they hold them.
570
00:35:08,282 --> 00:35:11,122
And that's how they operate.
571
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:15,489
They make the mafia look
like a bunch of schoolboys.
572
00:35:15,490 --> 00:35:19,460
- Fiscal year 1999,
2.3 trillion missing.
573
00:35:19,460 --> 00:35:23,160
Fiscal year 2000,
1.1 trillion missing.
574
00:35:23,163 --> 00:35:25,363
The pentagon has
claimed, year after year,
575
00:35:25,365 --> 00:35:27,365
That the reason it can't
account for the money
576
00:35:27,367 --> 00:35:29,497
Is because it's computers
don't communicate
577
00:35:29,502 --> 00:35:31,372
With each other.
578
00:35:31,370 --> 00:35:33,200
- one
trillion, one dollar bills,
579
00:35:33,205 --> 00:35:37,405
Stacked high would reach
nearly 68,000 miles into space.
580
00:35:37,409 --> 00:35:40,439
One third of the
way to the moon.
581
00:35:41,478 --> 00:35:44,108
- I got a
phone call from the fbi
582
00:35:44,114 --> 00:35:47,424
Saying that I was a
target of a death threat.
583
00:35:47,417 --> 00:35:50,377
And that's what happens
when you go against
584
00:35:50,386 --> 00:35:51,516
The big boys.
585
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,290
Who has the contracts
today, to make
586
00:35:55,290 --> 00:35:57,590
Those systems communicate
with each other?
587
00:35:57,592 --> 00:36:00,692
And how much have the
tax payers paid for them?
588
00:36:00,695 --> 00:36:02,385
- There are times
that corporations
589
00:36:02,396 --> 00:36:04,796
Do things they should
not do, in which case
590
00:36:04,798 --> 00:36:07,398
They tend to be suspended
for some period.
591
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,130
There are times then
that corporations
592
00:36:09,135 --> 00:36:10,795
Can get out of the penalty
box, if you will...
593
00:36:10,803 --> 00:36:13,843
- This company was never
in the penalty box.
594
00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:16,509
If you could proceed to
my second question please.
595
00:36:16,508 --> 00:36:18,738
- The second question...
596
00:36:24,514 --> 00:36:28,454
I've forgotten what the
second question was.
597
00:36:32,953 --> 00:36:35,823
- Individuals operating
in the shadows,
598
00:36:35,823 --> 00:36:38,423
And never having
their names called,
599
00:36:38,425 --> 00:36:42,325
Are able to leverage the
power of the military
600
00:36:42,328 --> 00:36:44,758
And the foreign
policy apparatus for
601
00:36:44,763 --> 00:36:47,663
Their own personal
pecuniary ends.
602
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,500
- What now?
603
00:36:51,502 --> 00:36:55,372
How do we justify
all this tanks,
604
00:36:55,372 --> 00:36:57,712
All this planes,
all this bullshit?
605
00:36:57,707 --> 00:37:00,767
What better new enemy
than an hypothetical
606
00:37:00,776 --> 00:37:04,476
Invisible enemy called
the war on terror?
607
00:39:01,990 --> 00:39:03,690
- I think at the
most basic level,
608
00:39:03,692 --> 00:39:06,732
When we realize how
we've entered into
609
00:39:08,095 --> 00:39:10,655
A permanent state
of war, like what
610
00:39:10,665 --> 00:39:13,395
Often proponents of
611
00:39:14,534 --> 00:39:15,804
Counter-terrorism
on a global scale,
612
00:39:15,802 --> 00:39:17,672
Think of as a long
war, but a war
613
00:39:17,670 --> 00:39:20,700
Without end,
something like that.
614
00:39:25,109 --> 00:39:28,539
And I think that
what we've accepted
615
00:39:28,546 --> 00:39:31,576
Is a political regime
616
00:39:31,582 --> 00:39:33,852
That is sustained by fear.
617
00:39:33,850 --> 00:39:35,650
This is a very old...
618
00:39:35,651 --> 00:39:37,721
It's a very old
political tactic.
619
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,349
I mean, machiavelli
asks in the prince,
620
00:39:41,355 --> 00:39:43,915
"is it better for the prince
to be feared or loved?"
621
00:39:43,924 --> 00:39:47,694
And his conclusion
is, because the locus
622
00:39:47,694 --> 00:39:51,034
Of fear, the source of
fear resides in him,
623
00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:54,700
In the prince, it can be
constant for his rule.
624
00:39:54,700 --> 00:39:58,130
Whereas the locus of love,
resides in the people.
625
00:39:58,136 --> 00:39:59,796
It's in their power.
626
00:39:59,804 --> 00:40:03,714
And so for them could be
constant, and long lasting.
627
00:40:03,707 --> 00:40:05,937
So machiavelli already
opens a question that
628
00:40:05,942 --> 00:40:08,682
He probably doesn't
provide us the answer with,
629
00:40:08,678 --> 00:40:11,808
What would it mean to have
our social arrangement,
630
00:40:11,814 --> 00:40:14,784
Like the basis of
our social choices,
631
00:40:16,150 --> 00:40:17,780
Be founded on love?
632
00:40:20,787 --> 00:40:22,847
- I don't think one
has to justify the cost
633
00:40:22,856 --> 00:40:25,116
And nature of the
national security state,
634
00:40:25,124 --> 00:40:28,164
One just has to keep the
people fearful enough
635
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,860
To support it.
636
00:40:29,861 --> 00:40:31,391
- But what I want to bring
to your attention today
637
00:40:31,395 --> 00:40:34,595
Is the potentially much
more sinister nexus
638
00:40:34,598 --> 00:40:38,628
Between iraq and the
al-qaeda terrorist network.
639
00:40:38,635 --> 00:40:41,795
- Every word in that
speech was gone over by
640
00:40:41,804 --> 00:40:44,574
The director of
central intelligence,
641
00:40:44,573 --> 00:40:46,013
And his deputy director.
642
00:40:46,007 --> 00:40:48,707
So there's nothing
that I made up.
643
00:40:48,709 --> 00:40:50,709
There was nothing
that I stuck in there.
644
00:40:50,711 --> 00:40:52,481
And in fact, some
people tried to stick
645
00:40:52,479 --> 00:40:54,779
Extra things in there,
that the intelligence
646
00:40:54,781 --> 00:40:57,681
Community wouldn't verify
with multi-sourcing.
647
00:40:57,683 --> 00:40:58,923
And I said no.
648
00:40:58,917 --> 00:41:01,877
- Powell grabbed me, physically,
649
00:41:01,886 --> 00:41:05,846
Which was unlike him,
and drug me into a space
650
00:41:05,856 --> 00:41:09,056
At the cia, at
langely, and said,
651
00:41:09,059 --> 00:41:12,729
"throw all the material
in my presentation
652
00:41:12,729 --> 00:41:15,659
"about terrorism
out, cut it out."
653
00:41:15,665 --> 00:41:17,055
- About this amount,
this is just about...
654
00:41:17,066 --> 00:41:19,926
- Within an hour, george
tenet, the director
655
00:41:19,935 --> 00:41:23,565
Of central intelligence,
made a spectacular
656
00:41:23,571 --> 00:41:25,871
Bombshell presentation.
657
00:41:25,873 --> 00:41:27,773
We have just learned
from a high level
658
00:41:27,774 --> 00:41:30,814
Al-qaeda operative,
under interrogation,
659
00:41:30,810 --> 00:41:33,710
About significant
contacts between
660
00:41:33,712 --> 00:41:36,682
Baghdad's mukhabarat,
and al-qaeda.
661
00:41:38,848 --> 00:41:40,848
This was devastating.
662
00:41:41,784 --> 00:41:44,154
Here's a director of
central intelligence
663
00:41:44,154 --> 00:41:46,694
Telling the secretary of state
664
00:41:46,689 --> 00:41:49,859
That he has
interrogated evidence.
665
00:41:49,858 --> 00:41:51,618
Well the secretary
turned to me and said,
666
00:41:51,626 --> 00:41:53,686
"put it back in."
667
00:41:53,694 --> 00:41:56,134
- al-qaeda continues
to have a deep interest
668
00:41:56,129 --> 00:41:58,999
In acquiring weapons
of mass destruction.
669
00:41:58,998 --> 00:42:01,828
As with the story of
zarqawi and his network,
670
00:42:01,834 --> 00:42:05,544
I can trace the story of a
senior terrorist operative
671
00:42:05,537 --> 00:42:08,237
Telling how iraq
provided training
672
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,869
In these weapons to al-qaeda.
673
00:42:10,874 --> 00:42:12,844
- Later I learn that
was sheikh al libi.
674
00:42:12,842 --> 00:42:15,542
That it hadn't just
instantly happened.
675
00:42:15,544 --> 00:42:17,714
It had happened months before.
676
00:42:17,712 --> 00:42:21,012
That he'd been water-boarded
in egypt, when he did this.
677
00:42:21,015 --> 00:42:23,615
No u.S. Personnel were present.
678
00:42:23,617 --> 00:42:26,577
And he had recanted
within a couple of weeks,
679
00:42:26,586 --> 00:42:28,816
And we never were
told about that.
680
00:42:28,821 --> 00:42:30,621
- Every statement I
make today is backed
681
00:42:30,622 --> 00:42:33,262
Up by sources, solid sources.
682
00:42:33,257 --> 00:42:35,117
These are not assertions.
683
00:42:35,125 --> 00:42:37,255
What we're giving you
are facts and conclusions
684
00:42:37,260 --> 00:42:39,860
Based on solid intelligence.
685
00:42:40,862 --> 00:42:44,102
- We were, indisputably,
we were lied to.
686
00:42:45,666 --> 00:42:47,726
- at this hour,
american and coalition
687
00:42:47,735 --> 00:42:51,135
Forces are in the early
stages of military operations,
688
00:42:51,138 --> 00:42:53,768
To disarm iraq, to
free it's people,
689
00:42:53,773 --> 00:42:56,113
And to defend the world
from grave danger.
690
00:42:56,108 --> 00:42:59,738
- As karl rove famously
said to this reporter,
691
00:42:59,744 --> 00:43:02,954
"now you guys are reality
based communities.
692
00:43:02,947 --> 00:43:04,177
"we make reality.
693
00:43:04,181 --> 00:43:06,051
"by the time you
figured out, you know,
694
00:43:06,049 --> 00:43:07,679
"what's wrong with our reality,
695
00:43:07,683 --> 00:43:09,853
"we've moved on to the
creation of another reality."
696
00:43:09,851 --> 00:43:12,851
- Did you sell or cause to
come into the possession
697
00:43:12,854 --> 00:43:15,724
Of saddam hussein weapons
of mass destruction?
698
00:43:15,723 --> 00:43:20,163
- Did the United States
sell to him, absolutely not.
699
00:43:22,962 --> 00:43:25,232
- Iran-iraq was on
such a scale, and I was
700
00:43:25,230 --> 00:43:28,260
On the iranian side, and I
went down to the battle point.
701
00:43:28,266 --> 00:43:30,996
I was actually given a gas kit.
702
00:43:31,002 --> 00:43:32,902
And so they let me
take the train back,
703
00:43:32,903 --> 00:43:34,273
Right all the way up to tehran.
704
00:43:34,271 --> 00:43:37,071
And the carriages were
crammed with iranian
705
00:43:37,073 --> 00:43:38,773
Soldiers who'd been gassed.
706
00:43:38,774 --> 00:43:40,544
Some were just
coughing, retching it.
707
00:43:40,542 --> 00:43:42,912
And one man was
reading the quran,
708
00:43:42,911 --> 00:43:44,741
And he would sort of
put a handkerchief
709
00:43:44,746 --> 00:43:47,276
And wipe the blood off his lips.
710
00:43:48,281 --> 00:43:50,321
Gradually the corridors
became permeated
711
00:43:50,317 --> 00:43:52,247
With a sort of very sick smell.
712
00:43:52,252 --> 00:43:53,852
And I realized it
was the smell of
713
00:43:53,853 --> 00:43:55,753
The gas that they were
coughing up from their lungs,
714
00:43:55,754 --> 00:43:57,024
And I was going
along the corridors,
715
00:43:57,021 --> 00:43:59,021
Opening all the windows
in the night air,
716
00:43:59,023 --> 00:44:01,023
Trying to clean the
train out of this smell
717
00:44:01,025 --> 00:44:03,955
Of, obviously, chemical warfare.
718
00:44:06,930 --> 00:44:09,930
After 2003 I was being
attacked on radio shows,
719
00:44:09,933 --> 00:44:11,603
Especially from america.
720
00:44:11,601 --> 00:44:12,931
Well you're complaining
about the american invasion,
721
00:44:12,935 --> 00:44:15,995
And I said, excuse
me I was on the train
722
00:44:16,004 --> 00:44:19,574
Of iranians gassed
by the iraqis.
723
00:44:19,574 --> 00:44:22,014
And the chemical components
came from the United States.
724
00:44:22,009 --> 00:44:26,239
At the very time that your
rumsfeld was meeting saddam.
725
00:44:27,346 --> 00:44:30,006
- You were meeting
with saddam hussein.
726
00:44:30,016 --> 00:44:31,776
I think we have
some video of that.
727
00:44:31,784 --> 00:44:33,224
Of that meeting.
728
00:44:33,218 --> 00:44:36,118
Tell me what was going
on during this meeting.
729
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,790
- Where did you get this video,
from the iraqi television...
730
00:44:38,789 --> 00:44:41,859
- When did they give it to
you, recently, or back then?
731
00:44:41,858 --> 00:44:44,058
- We've dug this out
of the cnn library.
732
00:44:44,060 --> 00:44:45,930
- I see.
733
00:44:45,928 --> 00:44:47,888
Isn't that interesting.
734
00:44:48,729 --> 00:44:49,729
There I am.
735
00:45:06,980 --> 00:45:09,880
- our war on terror,
736
00:45:09,883 --> 00:45:11,653
Begins with al-qaeda.
737
00:45:12,751 --> 00:45:13,921
But it does not end there.
738
00:45:17,289 --> 00:45:18,989
- This very phrase,
war on terror,
739
00:45:18,990 --> 00:45:21,190
Is irrational.
740
00:45:21,192 --> 00:45:25,332
It's like saying, a war on war.
741
00:45:25,329 --> 00:45:28,129
A war on violence, a war that...
742
00:45:28,131 --> 00:45:29,761
It's nonsense.
743
00:45:29,765 --> 00:45:31,125
You're stepping into
this possibility of, kind
744
00:45:31,133 --> 00:45:32,903
Of, perpetual war.
745
00:45:33,901 --> 00:45:36,871
- Good morning
darling, how are you?
746
00:45:38,071 --> 00:45:39,911
- They lack at reassuring us,
747
00:45:39,907 --> 00:45:42,407
And we kept believing
him, because
748
00:45:42,409 --> 00:45:44,139
You don't want to think
your prime minister
749
00:45:44,144 --> 00:45:46,044
Is deceiving you in
the route to a war,
750
00:45:46,045 --> 00:45:48,745
There's nothing more serious.
751
00:45:49,379 --> 00:45:53,149
♪ we can change the world
752
00:45:53,151 --> 00:45:55,081
- When the serious
fraud office launched
753
00:45:55,086 --> 00:45:57,446
It's investigation
into all the crimes
754
00:45:57,455 --> 00:46:00,085
That we were uncovering,
it turned out
755
00:46:00,090 --> 00:46:01,820
That many of these
arms deals had
756
00:46:01,825 --> 00:46:05,255
Been forced through by
tony blair, personally.
757
00:46:05,261 --> 00:46:07,191
- He's a dedicated
arms salesman.
758
00:46:07,196 --> 00:46:09,856
Whatever that was at his
feet, ever, in government,
759
00:46:09,865 --> 00:46:12,395
He always backed the arms sale.
760
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,070
- the serious fraud
office got to the brink
761
00:46:15,069 --> 00:46:18,399
Of uncovering the secret
swiss bank accounts,
762
00:46:18,405 --> 00:46:22,405
By which bae was funneling
money to the saudi royal family.
763
00:46:22,409 --> 00:46:23,979
The swiss said
we're gonna notify
764
00:46:23,977 --> 00:46:25,907
The bank account holders.
765
00:46:25,912 --> 00:46:30,082
Bandar flew to london and
blair swung into action.
766
00:46:33,518 --> 00:46:35,548
He ordered the
serious fraud office
767
00:46:35,553 --> 00:46:37,153
To close down their
investigation.
768
00:46:37,154 --> 00:46:39,854
♪ we can change the world
769
00:46:39,856 --> 00:46:43,356
- Prince bandar said if the
investigation continued,
770
00:46:43,359 --> 00:46:47,289
They would withdraw national
security cooperation.
771
00:46:47,296 --> 00:46:50,096
Which would lead, in the
words of prince bandar,
772
00:46:50,098 --> 00:46:53,168
"to blood on the
streets of london."
773
00:46:56,169 --> 00:46:57,999
- the story we've
been banging away at,
774
00:46:58,005 --> 00:47:00,435
For more than five
years, suddenly
everybody woke up to it,
775
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,410
Because everybody
could see it was a huge
776
00:47:02,408 --> 00:47:04,268
Cover-up scandal.
777
00:47:04,276 --> 00:47:06,236
The spectacle of a
british prime minister
778
00:47:06,244 --> 00:47:08,884
Closing down a criminal
investigation for
779
00:47:08,879 --> 00:47:10,109
His own reasons.
780
00:47:10,113 --> 00:47:11,313
- were
you aware that your
781
00:47:11,314 --> 00:47:13,414
Government was approving
payments to a friend
782
00:47:13,416 --> 00:47:15,946
Of president
bush's, as part of a
783
00:47:15,951 --> 00:47:18,281
British aerospace's
kick back system?
784
00:47:18,286 --> 00:47:21,846
Is that why you suspended
a fraud inquiry?
785
00:47:23,157 --> 00:47:25,157
- When tony blair
started talking about
786
00:47:25,159 --> 00:47:27,859
National security interest,
that's supposed to be
787
00:47:27,861 --> 00:47:29,861
A card that trumps all others.
788
00:47:29,863 --> 00:47:31,133
- I don't believe
the investigation
789
00:47:31,130 --> 00:47:32,400
Incidentally would
have led anywhere,
790
00:47:32,397 --> 00:47:34,327
Except to the complete wreckage
791
00:47:34,332 --> 00:47:38,532
Of a vital, strategic
relationship for our country.
792
00:47:38,536 --> 00:47:40,936
In terms of fighting
terrorism, in terms
793
00:47:40,938 --> 00:47:45,438
Of the middle east, in terms
of british interest there.
794
00:47:45,442 --> 00:47:47,182
- So this thing's
absolutely stunning.
795
00:47:47,177 --> 00:47:50,207
It seems to be a
very expensive way
796
00:47:50,213 --> 00:47:53,113
Of organizing bribe payment.
797
00:47:53,115 --> 00:47:57,275
Out the military equipment,
and just hand out the money.
798
00:48:02,622 --> 00:48:04,562
♪ we can change the world
799
00:48:04,557 --> 00:48:07,257
- blair came to
south africa, specifically
800
00:48:07,259 --> 00:48:11,289
To lobby the bae, the
british weapons manufacturer,
801
00:48:11,296 --> 00:48:15,256
Who won the biggest
contract on our arms deal.
802
00:48:15,266 --> 00:48:16,966
♪ our time has come
803
00:48:20,903 --> 00:48:22,403
- And the option
that they presented
804
00:48:22,405 --> 00:48:25,265
Was two and half
times more expensive
805
00:48:25,274 --> 00:48:27,944
Than the plane that the
south african air force
806
00:48:27,943 --> 00:48:30,013
Actually wanted.
807
00:48:30,011 --> 00:48:32,111
- bae systems.
808
00:48:32,113 --> 00:48:33,283
Real performance.
809
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,610
Real advantage.
810
00:48:39,585 --> 00:48:42,245
- As mandela was
about to step down
811
00:48:42,254 --> 00:48:46,264
From public life, his
successor, thabo mbeki,
812
00:48:46,258 --> 00:48:50,488
Made the decision to spend
around 10 billion dollars,
813
00:48:51,561 --> 00:48:54,531
What were quite scarce
public resources,
814
00:48:54,531 --> 00:48:58,371
On this weaponry
that we didn't need.
815
00:48:58,368 --> 00:49:02,038
Rather than provide
life saving medication,
816
00:49:02,038 --> 00:49:04,668
For the almost 6
million south africans
817
00:49:04,673 --> 00:49:08,943
Who were then living
with hiv, or aids.
818
00:49:08,943 --> 00:49:10,643
The primary reason
for those deals,
819
00:49:10,644 --> 00:49:14,684
Was that around 300
million dollars in bribes
820
00:49:14,681 --> 00:49:17,411
Were paid to senior politicians,
821
00:49:19,950 --> 00:49:22,620
And sadly to the african
national congress,
822
00:49:22,620 --> 00:49:24,520
The anc, my own party.
823
00:49:28,390 --> 00:49:31,190
I was called in by a
senior member of the anc's
824
00:49:31,193 --> 00:49:33,063
National executive council.
825
00:49:33,061 --> 00:49:35,691
He said to me, "look
andrew, this is a battle
826
00:49:35,696 --> 00:49:40,166
"you cannot win, because
this money, the bribes,
827
00:49:40,167 --> 00:49:43,937
"we used to fund
our 1999 election."
828
00:49:43,937 --> 00:49:46,237
And almost immediately
I'm asked to make
829
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,239
A statement to the
press that says
830
00:49:48,241 --> 00:49:51,341
There's nothing to investigate.
831
00:49:51,344 --> 00:49:53,044
So it's all over.
832
00:49:54,311 --> 00:49:58,311
And I looked at him and
I said, no it's not.
833
00:49:58,316 --> 00:50:01,376
I won't be able to
live with myself,
834
00:50:03,018 --> 00:50:05,318
If I stop this investigation.
835
00:50:05,321 --> 00:50:08,121
But at the same time,
I'm also realizing,
836
00:50:08,123 --> 00:50:11,663
That this is the end
of my political career.
837
00:50:15,095 --> 00:50:18,255
The heads of government are
the sales people in chief
838
00:50:18,264 --> 00:50:21,534
Of their country's
large arms contractors.
839
00:50:21,533 --> 00:50:23,733
And this is the
template used by large
840
00:50:23,735 --> 00:50:27,095
Defense contractors
around the world.
841
00:50:34,410 --> 00:50:37,080
- Companies like bae
are not only, sort of,
842
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,510
Effectively part
of the government,
843
00:50:38,514 --> 00:50:40,754
But they're effectively
above the law.
844
00:50:40,749 --> 00:50:43,549
- Corruption is not merely
a dirty little detail
845
00:50:43,551 --> 00:50:46,351
On top of the arms
trade, it's actually,
846
00:50:46,353 --> 00:50:50,093
In a lot of cases, what drives
the international arms trade.
847
00:50:50,090 --> 00:50:53,290
Many of these deals would
not happen if they did not
848
00:50:53,293 --> 00:50:57,303
Provide opportunities
for personal enrichment.
849
00:50:57,297 --> 00:51:00,157
- I would be
offended if I thought
850
00:51:02,233 --> 00:51:05,133
We had the monopoly
on corruption.
851
00:51:20,316 --> 00:51:22,246
- As I was being
dragged out I thought,
852
00:51:22,252 --> 00:51:24,322
Right at the last second
I'm gonna still say,
853
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,390
Remind everyone that this
guy is a war criminal.
854
00:51:26,388 --> 00:51:28,688
- Can I just say,
actually, on the record,
855
00:51:28,690 --> 00:51:31,160
What he said about
iraq and jp morgan
856
00:51:31,159 --> 00:51:33,089
Is completely and
totally untrue.
857
00:51:33,094 --> 00:51:34,534
I have never had a
discussion with them.
858
00:51:34,528 --> 00:51:36,028
- Now I'm not suggesting
that there was a phone
859
00:51:36,029 --> 00:51:37,699
Call between jp
morgan and blair,
860
00:51:37,697 --> 00:51:39,257
It was actually
what happened was,
861
00:51:39,265 --> 00:51:41,095
Jp morgan and a
consortium of other banks
862
00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:44,400
Did, in fact, prop up
the whole iraq economy
863
00:51:44,403 --> 00:51:47,503
To the tune of about 2.5
billion, not 20 billion,
864
00:51:47,506 --> 00:51:49,506
I was a bit nervous that day.
865
00:51:49,508 --> 00:51:51,408
Then six months
after he left office,
866
00:51:51,409 --> 00:51:53,479
Blair suddenly
signed by jp morgan,
867
00:51:53,477 --> 00:51:56,177
For five million
dollars every year.
868
00:51:56,179 --> 00:51:58,249
I was just trying to
enlighten the public
869
00:51:58,247 --> 00:51:59,507
That there was
corruption involved,
870
00:51:59,514 --> 00:52:02,314
And not just bad
decision making.
871
00:52:02,316 --> 00:52:05,576
- I'd like to find
out how this gentlemen
872
00:52:07,085 --> 00:52:09,545
Managed to access the court.
873
00:52:09,555 --> 00:52:10,815
- There must be a back door in,
874
00:52:10,822 --> 00:52:12,492
Because they'd all gone
out for tea at the time.
875
00:52:12,490 --> 00:52:13,660
And there was a
courtroom, directly
876
00:52:13,657 --> 00:52:16,187
Underneath the courtroom
that blair was in,
877
00:52:16,192 --> 00:52:17,722
And it was left unlocked.
878
00:52:17,726 --> 00:52:19,756
So I went through that
one, up two floors
879
00:52:19,761 --> 00:52:22,191
Via the fire escape,
and then to the door
880
00:52:22,196 --> 00:52:25,456
By this time my heart
was pounding, like...
881
00:52:25,465 --> 00:52:27,725
You know, I was
really going mad.
882
00:52:27,733 --> 00:52:29,833
And I actually lost my
courage for the moment.
883
00:52:29,835 --> 00:52:31,525
So I went and sat
down in a bathroom,
884
00:52:31,536 --> 00:52:33,796
I found a gentleman's
toilet there,
885
00:52:33,804 --> 00:52:35,604
I did actually ring my mother,
886
00:52:35,605 --> 00:52:37,365
And I said, listen, I'm
here, what shall I do?
887
00:52:37,373 --> 00:52:38,573
Do you think I
should still go in?
888
00:52:38,574 --> 00:52:39,674
And my mum said,
"yeah, go on, you
889
00:52:39,675 --> 00:52:41,335
"won't get another chance."
890
00:52:41,343 --> 00:52:42,513
And I thought,
that's it, I'm in.
891
00:52:42,510 --> 00:52:45,380
The man is a war criminal!
892
00:52:52,418 --> 00:52:55,248
- augustine
said, "that hope has
893
00:52:55,255 --> 00:52:59,155
"two beautiful daughters,
anger and courage.
894
00:52:59,158 --> 00:53:01,458
"anger at the way
things are, and courage
895
00:53:01,460 --> 00:53:03,690
"to see that they don't
remain the way they are."
896
00:53:10,867 --> 00:53:12,667
You conserve two
sets of principles,
897
00:53:12,669 --> 00:53:15,269
Privilege and power,
or justice and truth.
898
00:53:15,271 --> 00:53:17,471
The more you make
compromises with those
899
00:53:17,473 --> 00:53:19,543
Who serve privilege and power,
900
00:53:19,541 --> 00:53:24,381
The more you diminish the
capacity for justice and truth.
901
00:53:24,378 --> 00:53:27,278
And, I think that
902
00:53:28,580 --> 00:53:32,620
The rebel seeks to keep those
who have power, fearful.
903
00:54:32,205 --> 00:54:33,865
- Peace, that's what we want.
904
00:54:33,874 --> 00:54:35,244
Freedom and peace.
905
00:56:00,925 --> 00:56:04,785
- So what if the guy
threw a shoe at me?
906
00:56:38,660 --> 00:56:39,660
- I'm gonna read you the
907
00:56:39,662 --> 00:56:41,832
Sourcing, of the
la times report,
908
00:56:41,830 --> 00:56:43,760
Paragraph one, u.S.
Authorities say,
909
00:56:43,765 --> 00:56:46,725
Column one, still
u.S. Officials said.
910
00:56:46,734 --> 00:56:49,844
Said one u.S. Justice
department counter-terrorism
911
00:56:49,837 --> 00:56:52,067
Official, column
two, officials said,
912
00:56:52,072 --> 00:56:55,472
U.S. Authorities say,
u.S. Officials said,
913
00:56:55,475 --> 00:56:58,005
Those officials said,
the officials confirmed.
914
00:56:58,010 --> 00:57:00,980
American officials
complained, they said,
915
00:57:00,979 --> 00:57:05,749
U.S. Officials
stressed, column three.
916
00:57:05,750 --> 00:57:08,950
U.S. Authorities said,
jordanian officials said...
917
00:57:09,887 --> 00:57:11,747
We got a slight...
918
00:57:11,755 --> 00:57:13,115
No laughter please, we
haven't finished yet.
919
00:57:13,123 --> 00:57:14,923
Several u.S. Officials said.
920
00:57:14,924 --> 00:57:17,824
Column four, u.S.
Officials said.
921
00:57:17,826 --> 00:57:19,626
Several american officials said.
922
00:57:19,627 --> 00:57:21,627
Officials say, say
u.S. Officials.
923
00:57:21,629 --> 00:57:24,029
But u.S. Officials said,
one u.S. Counter-terrorism
924
00:57:24,031 --> 00:57:25,501
Official said, I'm not joking.
925
00:57:25,499 --> 00:57:26,729
There it is.
926
00:57:26,733 --> 00:57:29,073
That is the journalism
you're getting fed.
927
00:57:29,068 --> 00:57:30,628
And I sometimes
think the la times
928
00:57:30,636 --> 00:57:32,196
And the new york
times, should be called
929
00:57:32,204 --> 00:57:33,744
American officials say.
930
00:57:35,740 --> 00:57:39,710
- I denounced the call
to invade iraq publicly.
931
00:57:39,710 --> 00:57:44,050
The new york times issued me
a formal written reprimand,
932
00:57:44,047 --> 00:57:46,647
Which is what you get
before you're fired,
933
00:57:46,649 --> 00:57:50,219
Under union rules, to stop
speaking out against the war.
934
00:57:50,219 --> 00:57:51,889
I'd been the middle
east bureau chief.
935
00:57:51,887 --> 00:57:54,717
I'd been in iraq, spent seven
years in the middle east.
936
00:58:01,228 --> 00:58:04,958
How can you come out of
gaza and not be angry?
937
00:58:04,965 --> 00:58:06,595
What's being done
to those people.
938
00:58:06,599 --> 00:58:09,899
How can you come
out of the sudan,
939
00:58:09,902 --> 00:58:12,872
El salvador, you know,
dozens of other places
940
00:58:12,871 --> 00:58:15,471
I've been, and not be angry?
941
00:58:17,674 --> 00:58:21,614
I've seen the bodies
of a lot of children.
942
00:58:21,612 --> 00:58:23,242
Which I can't forget.
943
00:58:30,820 --> 00:58:35,520
20 years, it, you
know, fucks you up.
944
00:58:48,635 --> 00:58:51,565
Dostoevsky said, "hell
is the inability to love,
945
00:58:51,572 --> 00:58:54,812
"and that's what kills people."
946
00:58:54,808 --> 00:58:58,008
I fully get why people
blow their brains out.
947
00:58:58,011 --> 00:58:59,711
It's really hell.
948
00:59:00,912 --> 00:59:04,512
And, I don't use love
as a kind of hallmark,
949
00:59:04,516 --> 00:59:08,076
Schmaltzy, you know, we
all gotta love each other.
950
00:59:08,086 --> 00:59:10,946
I'm saying that the
only way you're healed
951
00:59:10,955 --> 00:59:13,715
From those experiences
is by re-establishing
952
00:59:13,724 --> 00:59:16,894
A connection with
that kind of power.
953
00:59:17,926 --> 00:59:19,286
With another human being.
954
00:59:19,295 --> 00:59:22,795
And if you can't do
that, you don't survive.
955
00:59:22,798 --> 00:59:25,198
And I have friends
who couldn't do it,
956
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,670
And they're not here anymore.
957
00:59:34,006 --> 00:59:37,676
It's the, you know,
the power of love
958
00:59:37,677 --> 00:59:39,037
To transcend time.
959
01:00:55,384 --> 01:01:00,094
- That looks like
a gaub 2-alpha 38
960
01:01:00,089 --> 01:01:03,089
That we used to
have on our loches.
961
01:01:03,092 --> 01:01:06,192
A mini-gun that fired
4,000 rounds per minute.
962
01:01:06,195 --> 01:01:08,955
One of the manifestations of
the national security state,
963
01:01:08,964 --> 01:01:13,134
Especially in the, sort of,
apogee it's arrived at today,
964
01:01:14,801 --> 01:01:16,971
Is that it destroys diplomacy.
965
01:01:16,970 --> 01:01:20,070
It destroys the will to
diplomacy, and it destroys
966
01:01:20,073 --> 01:01:22,143
The skill for diplomacy.
967
01:01:35,953 --> 01:01:37,853
- If you're a small
state, like we were for
968
01:01:37,855 --> 01:01:41,285
150 years, in essence,
vis-a-vis Spain, France,
969
01:01:41,291 --> 01:01:44,761
England, and even
russia, you've got to be
970
01:01:44,761 --> 01:01:47,291
Exquisitely good at diplomacy.
971
01:01:47,296 --> 01:01:48,896
You've got to be
able to talk yourself
972
01:01:48,897 --> 01:01:51,197
Out of lots of
things, and make deals
973
01:01:51,199 --> 01:01:53,129
And compromises and so forth.
974
01:01:53,134 --> 01:01:54,374
But if you're the
world's hedge men
975
01:01:54,368 --> 01:01:57,068
You don't deal with
anybody, you smack 'em.
976
01:01:57,070 --> 01:01:59,000
You use your military
and you smack 'em.
977
01:02:01,107 --> 01:02:06,037
- On may 3rd of 2003, the
ambassador of switzerland
978
01:02:06,045 --> 01:02:10,205
To tehran, delivers a letter
from iran to the United States.
979
01:02:12,015 --> 01:02:14,445
In that letter, the
iranians essentially
980
01:02:14,451 --> 01:02:17,991
Offer negotiations to
open up the nuclear
981
01:02:17,987 --> 01:02:21,087
Program for full transparency.
982
01:02:21,090 --> 01:02:23,160
The proposal came in.
983
01:02:23,158 --> 01:02:25,688
I happened to see
it, because a copy
984
01:02:25,693 --> 01:02:27,293
Was also given to a
member of congress
985
01:02:27,294 --> 01:02:29,834
That I worked for at the time.
986
01:02:29,829 --> 01:02:33,899
He sent it over to the
white house and karl rove.
987
01:02:33,899 --> 01:02:35,799
Karl rove called back.
988
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,030
He said that he found
the proposal intriguing.
989
01:02:38,035 --> 01:02:40,395
He wanted to know
if it was genuine.
990
01:02:40,404 --> 01:02:43,174
And he promised to put it
in front of the president.
991
01:02:43,173 --> 01:02:46,313
- I would call karl
rove a dear friend.
992
01:02:47,942 --> 01:02:50,082
- I've seen a man of
farsighted courage.
993
01:02:50,078 --> 01:02:52,338
Put america on a war footing.
994
01:02:53,379 --> 01:02:55,749
And protect us against
a brutal enemy,
995
01:02:55,749 --> 01:02:58,819
In a dangerous conflict that
will shape this new century.
996
01:02:58,818 --> 01:03:02,848
- No form of response was
given to the iranians at all.
997
01:03:02,855 --> 01:03:07,415
- I'm grateful to have
been a witness to history.
998
01:03:07,426 --> 01:03:10,486
- And the argument was,
that whatever could
999
01:03:10,495 --> 01:03:13,395
Come out of a negotiation
with the iranians,
1000
01:03:13,397 --> 01:03:16,027
Even more could be
achieved by simply
1001
01:03:16,032 --> 01:03:19,032
Removing the regime in iran.
1002
01:03:19,035 --> 01:03:21,235
In a way to sum up
the argument, however,
1003
01:03:21,237 --> 01:03:25,407
The principle in the
bush administration said
1004
01:03:25,407 --> 01:03:28,407
That we simply do
not talk to evil.
1005
01:03:29,910 --> 01:03:32,240
- And as tony zini said, former
central command commander,
1006
01:03:32,246 --> 01:03:35,506
"if you like to rock,
you'll love iran."
1007
01:03:35,515 --> 01:03:39,015
That is a 10 to 14 year,
1008
01:03:39,018 --> 01:03:40,948
Three to four trillion dollar
1009
01:03:40,953 --> 01:03:44,253
Invasion, at the end
of which the world,
1010
01:03:44,256 --> 01:03:48,116
Western asia, will
look not much different
1011
01:03:48,126 --> 01:03:50,156
Than it does right now.
1012
01:03:50,161 --> 01:03:52,531
It'll still be in turmoil,
still be in chaos,
1013
01:03:52,530 --> 01:03:56,960
And 70 plus million iranians
will hate our living guts.
1014
01:03:58,934 --> 01:04:02,844
Went in to see the
under-secretary of defense,
1015
01:04:02,837 --> 01:04:05,167
The ideas that wolfowitz
shared with me,
1016
01:04:05,172 --> 01:04:09,172
He and secretary cheney
in 91, 92, packaged them,
1017
01:04:09,176 --> 01:04:11,106
Re-tooled them,
thought about them,
1018
01:04:11,111 --> 01:04:12,141
Went to the white house.
1019
01:04:12,145 --> 01:04:14,105
Briefed people like presidents.
1020
01:04:14,113 --> 01:04:18,083
America needs a new strategy,
or forceable regime change.
1021
01:04:18,083 --> 01:04:22,153
So here this idea springs
back up again in 2001.
1022
01:04:23,419 --> 01:04:26,089
I went through the pentagon,
in November of 2001,
1023
01:04:26,089 --> 01:04:28,119
And one of the generals
said, "sir I got this memo
1024
01:04:28,124 --> 01:04:30,264
"on my desk, it's...
1025
01:04:30,259 --> 01:04:34,289
"we're gonna go after seven
countries in five years."
1026
01:04:36,796 --> 01:04:38,826
I said is that a
classified memo?
1027
01:04:38,832 --> 01:04:41,102
He said, "yes sir!
1028
01:04:41,100 --> 01:04:42,530
"we're gonna start with
iraq, and then we're
1029
01:04:42,534 --> 01:04:45,234
"gonna move to syria,
lebanon, libya,
1030
01:04:45,236 --> 01:04:47,366
"somalia, sudan, and iran."
1031
01:04:56,978 --> 01:04:58,938
- I think it's highly
probable the administration
1032
01:04:58,946 --> 01:05:02,306
Has already made the decision
to go to war against iran.
1033
01:05:02,316 --> 01:05:06,276
There are already u.S.
Troops inside iran.
1034
01:05:06,286 --> 01:05:07,946
I wanna repeat that.
1035
01:05:07,954 --> 01:05:11,564
There are already u.S.
Troops inside iran.
1036
01:05:11,557 --> 01:05:13,387
- The u.S. Has long
had it's eyes set
1037
01:05:13,392 --> 01:05:16,192
On trying to impact
regime change in iran.
1038
01:05:16,194 --> 01:05:18,194
And much of what you've
seen the u.S. Doing,
1039
01:05:18,196 --> 01:05:21,356
With regards to iran, has
been on a covert level.
1040
01:05:21,365 --> 01:05:23,195
- We've seen a report
in the new yorker,
1041
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:27,200
By seymour hersh, that
a u.S. Source told him
1042
01:05:27,204 --> 01:05:29,474
That u.S. Marines were
operating in the balochi,
1043
01:05:29,472 --> 01:05:33,242
Mazareh, and kurdish
regions of iran.
1044
01:05:33,242 --> 01:05:35,542
Have you ever heard
of that report?
1045
01:05:35,544 --> 01:05:37,214
- I've never heard of the
report, I've never read the
1046
01:05:37,212 --> 01:05:39,582
Article, nor do I intend to.
1047
01:05:39,581 --> 01:05:42,211
- do you have any
interest as to whether or not,
1048
01:05:42,216 --> 01:05:44,276
As the u.S. Ambassador?
1049
01:05:44,284 --> 01:05:45,854
- I don't...
1050
01:05:45,852 --> 01:05:50,862
U.S. Marines are actually
operating in iran right now?
1051
01:05:50,857 --> 01:05:53,187
- I said I had not
heard of the report,
1052
01:05:53,192 --> 01:05:57,192
And I didn't intend to read
the article in the new yorker.
1053
01:05:57,196 --> 01:05:58,626
- if I gave you
this article right now,
1054
01:05:58,630 --> 01:06:00,260
Walked it over,
would you look at it?
1055
01:06:00,264 --> 01:06:02,264
- I don't think so
honestly, congressman,
1056
01:06:02,266 --> 01:06:06,496
'cause I don't have the
time to read much fiction.
1057
01:06:09,036 --> 01:06:12,136
- we have teams
inside iran and these include
1058
01:06:12,140 --> 01:06:14,310
Joint special operation
force, of our most
1059
01:06:14,308 --> 01:06:16,068
Elite commando unit.
1060
01:06:16,076 --> 01:06:18,436
It has been given executive
authority by the president
1061
01:06:18,445 --> 01:06:20,575
In as many as 12
countries, to go in
1062
01:06:20,580 --> 01:06:24,950
And kill, we're talking
about high value targets.
1063
01:06:24,951 --> 01:06:26,351
They're operating
now, and they go into
1064
01:06:26,352 --> 01:06:29,022
Countries outside of
the war zone, outside
1065
01:06:29,021 --> 01:06:31,321
Of afghanistan and
outside of iraq,
1066
01:06:31,323 --> 01:06:33,263
Without telling the
american cia station chief,
1067
01:06:33,258 --> 01:06:35,118
Or the american
ambassador, they go in
1068
01:06:35,126 --> 01:06:36,886
Sterile and they kill people.
1069
01:06:39,196 --> 01:06:41,256
- We have to worry about
the sort of dark side
1070
01:06:41,264 --> 01:06:43,704
If you will, when I spend
time in the shadows,
1071
01:06:43,700 --> 01:06:46,470
In the intelligence world.
1072
01:06:46,469 --> 01:06:51,309
Will have to be done quietly,
without any discussion,
1073
01:06:51,307 --> 01:06:53,307
Using sources and
methods that are
1074
01:06:53,309 --> 01:06:55,779
Available to our
intelligence agencies.
1075
01:07:12,425 --> 01:07:15,425
- The doctrine that has
endured from bush to obama
1076
01:07:15,429 --> 01:07:17,429
Is that the world
is a battlefield.
1077
01:07:17,431 --> 01:07:19,431
And that the united
states has the right
1078
01:07:19,433 --> 01:07:21,333
To go into any country
around the world
1079
01:07:21,334 --> 01:07:23,404
To conduct, what they
call, kinetic operations,
1080
01:07:23,402 --> 01:07:24,702
Lethal operations, regardless of
1081
01:07:24,703 --> 01:07:27,303
What international law says.
1082
01:07:28,705 --> 01:07:30,605
What is president
obama's response to that?
1083
01:07:30,607 --> 01:07:32,607
How is he going to deal with it?
1084
01:07:32,609 --> 01:07:36,379
He embraced the very
covert shadow forces
1085
01:07:36,379 --> 01:07:38,509
That a decade
earlier had only been
1086
01:07:38,514 --> 01:07:40,654
Talked about in hushed
tones in the pentagon.
1087
01:07:40,649 --> 01:07:44,049
Not just as the implementors
of a policy that said
1088
01:07:44,052 --> 01:07:46,352
We should decapitate
terror networks,
1089
01:07:46,354 --> 01:07:48,354
And engage in preemptive
strikes, but they
1090
01:07:48,356 --> 01:07:50,686
Became the policy itself.
1091
01:07:56,296 --> 01:07:57,626
President obama's
administration have built
1092
01:07:57,630 --> 01:07:59,800
Up something called
the disposition matrix.
1093
01:07:59,798 --> 01:08:01,498
It's like an algorithm
for determining
1094
01:08:01,499 --> 01:08:02,399
Who should be
killed, or who should
1095
01:08:02,399 --> 01:08:04,129
We seek to capture.
1096
01:08:04,134 --> 01:08:05,474
And one of the more, sort
of, grotesque aspects
1097
01:08:05,468 --> 01:08:07,368
Of this, is that there
were actually meetings
1098
01:08:07,369 --> 01:08:09,069
On tuesdays, in the white house,
1099
01:08:09,070 --> 01:08:11,200
That have been nicknamed
terror Tuesday meetings.
1100
01:08:11,205 --> 01:08:13,365
Where they're going
through rosters of names
1101
01:08:13,373 --> 01:08:15,413
To put on, or take off the list.
1102
01:08:15,408 --> 01:08:16,768
Maybe someone within
that group has been
1103
01:08:16,776 --> 01:08:19,436
In contact with someone
that the u.S. Is watching.
1104
01:08:19,445 --> 01:08:21,405
They went to the same
mosque as someone.
1105
01:08:21,413 --> 01:08:23,413
They keep ordering pizza
from the same place
1106
01:08:23,415 --> 01:08:24,845
As a taliban leader.
1107
01:08:24,849 --> 01:08:26,749
And you decide, these
guys are probably up
1108
01:08:26,750 --> 01:08:29,580
To no good, and so, on
this particular day,
1109
01:08:29,586 --> 01:08:32,146
We're gonna remove
them from planet earth.
1110
01:08:32,155 --> 01:08:34,315
- So now we're getting
into minority report.
1111
01:08:34,323 --> 01:08:36,763
Into this sort of
sci-fi world of pk dick.
1112
01:08:36,758 --> 01:08:40,258
Where it's justifiable homicide.
1113
01:08:40,261 --> 01:08:41,691
Even though it's for
an act that might
1114
01:08:41,695 --> 01:08:44,125
Take place in the future.
1115
01:08:44,130 --> 01:08:46,330
It's okay to kill
from a distance,
1116
01:08:46,332 --> 01:08:50,372
Without a warrant, without
a trial, without a jury.
1117
01:08:50,369 --> 01:08:53,669
And the execution
takes place off screen.
1118
01:09:08,652 --> 01:09:12,822
- Where appropriate, we will
bring terrorists to justice.
1119
01:09:14,656 --> 01:09:15,556
- When...
1120
01:09:16,757 --> 01:09:18,417
- When we...
1121
01:09:18,426 --> 01:09:19,486
- We went...
1122
01:09:22,394 --> 01:09:24,604
- He went on to...
1123
01:09:26,164 --> 01:09:27,504
- We went on...
1124
01:09:36,873 --> 01:09:39,643
- We're addressing that ma'am.
1125
01:09:43,412 --> 01:09:47,352
- The voice of that woman is
worth paying attention to.
1126
01:09:47,350 --> 01:09:51,390
Obviously I do not agree
with much of what she said.
1127
01:09:51,387 --> 01:09:53,847
- The president is not
implementing policies that
1128
01:09:53,856 --> 01:09:56,456
We need to see change,
for example that he
1129
01:09:56,458 --> 01:09:59,158
Would stop the authorization
of signature strikes.
1130
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:00,760
Which means killing
people only on the basis
1131
01:10:00,761 --> 01:10:03,901
Of suspicious behavior,
that's led to the
1132
01:10:03,897 --> 01:10:05,627
Killing of many
innocent people...
1133
01:10:05,632 --> 01:10:08,472
- You know I post the
question on my facebook page,
1134
01:10:08,468 --> 01:10:11,468
And asked them what
they wanted to ask you.
1135
01:10:11,471 --> 01:10:12,671
And a lot of them
said that you were
1136
01:10:12,672 --> 01:10:15,512
Hurting your own
cause, because, one,
1137
01:10:15,508 --> 01:10:18,478
You appeared rude to the
president of the United States,
1138
01:10:18,477 --> 01:10:22,707
And two, you just
seemed a little crazy.
1139
01:10:23,747 --> 01:10:25,647
- Well I think killing
innocent people
1140
01:10:25,649 --> 01:10:27,219
With drones is rude.
1141
01:10:27,217 --> 01:10:29,377
I think not apologizing
to the families
1142
01:10:29,385 --> 01:10:32,245
Of innocent people who
are killed is rude.
1143
01:10:32,254 --> 01:10:34,754
There are a lot of rude
things about our policies.
1144
01:10:34,756 --> 01:10:36,416
- I want to make sure
the people understand,
1145
01:10:36,424 --> 01:10:37,724
Actually drones have not caused
1146
01:10:37,725 --> 01:10:39,925
A huge number of
civilian causalities.
1147
01:10:39,927 --> 01:10:41,527
For the most part
they have been very
1148
01:10:41,528 --> 01:10:44,558
Precise, precision
strikes against al-qaeda.
1149
01:10:44,564 --> 01:10:46,634
- How do you expect
the people of pakistan
1150
01:10:46,632 --> 01:10:49,202
Not to have
anti-american sentiments
1151
01:10:49,201 --> 01:10:52,301
When day in, and day out,
we hear about drone attacks
1152
01:10:52,304 --> 01:10:55,844
That kill more innocent
people than militants?
1153
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:57,510
How do you explain that?
1154
01:10:57,508 --> 01:11:00,778
- Well I do not believe
that there is any
1155
01:11:00,777 --> 01:11:03,837
Basis for your comment.
1156
01:11:49,419 --> 01:11:52,449
- Lockheed martin, boeing,
dyncorp international,
1157
01:11:52,456 --> 01:11:56,016
Computer sciences corporation,
and aerovironment,
1158
01:11:56,026 --> 01:11:58,256
All told eric,
about 70 companies
1159
01:11:58,261 --> 01:12:00,791
Are interested in this one
billion dollar contract.
1160
01:12:00,796 --> 01:12:03,856
- As we look out three,
five, seven, 10 years,
1161
01:12:03,865 --> 01:12:07,565
This market remains a
very much a growth market.
1162
01:13:01,684 --> 01:13:04,354
- It's the disease of
permanent war that destroyed
1163
01:13:04,354 --> 01:13:05,894
The middle east.
1164
01:13:05,888 --> 01:13:08,818
It's not islamic fundamentalism.
1165
01:13:10,491 --> 01:13:14,431
It empower all of those who
profit from permanent war.
1166
01:13:14,429 --> 01:13:17,699
Politically, economically
and militarily.
1167
01:13:18,798 --> 01:13:20,868
- Make no mistake,
a nuclear armed iran
1168
01:13:20,867 --> 01:13:23,667
Is not a challenge
that can be contained.
1169
01:13:23,669 --> 01:13:25,939
It would threaten the
elimination of israel.
1170
01:13:25,937 --> 01:13:28,497
The security of gulf nations.
1171
01:13:28,506 --> 01:13:31,836
And the stability of
the global economy.
1172
01:13:31,842 --> 01:13:33,642
It risks triggering
a nuclear arms race
1173
01:13:33,643 --> 01:13:35,743
In the region, and
the unraveling of the
1174
01:13:35,745 --> 01:13:37,875
Non-proliferation treaty.
1175
01:13:38,779 --> 01:13:41,779
- And how close is
iran to getting it?
1176
01:13:41,783 --> 01:13:43,823
Well let me show you.
1177
01:13:43,818 --> 01:13:46,018
I brought a diagram for you.
1178
01:13:47,954 --> 01:13:49,824
Here's the diagram.
1179
01:13:53,524 --> 01:13:55,534
This is a bomb.
1180
01:13:55,527 --> 01:13:56,857
This is a fuse.
1181
01:13:57,794 --> 01:14:01,004
Where should a
red line be drawn?
1182
01:14:00,998 --> 01:14:04,428
A red line should
be drawn right here.
1183
01:14:06,601 --> 01:14:09,641
- The threat from iran
is a political football.
1184
01:14:09,638 --> 01:14:11,838
What was interesting
was that many israelis,
1185
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,770
Including people from
the military said,
1186
01:14:14,776 --> 01:14:18,836
As long as there is
an existential threat,
1187
01:14:18,846 --> 01:14:22,846
Somewhere, somehow, that
it is certainly helping
1188
01:14:22,850 --> 01:14:25,820
Us expand our
budgets, in ways that
1189
01:14:25,819 --> 01:14:28,949
Is not possible to
do in the absence
1190
01:14:28,955 --> 01:14:33,055
On anything that can be
defined as such a threat.
1191
01:14:33,059 --> 01:14:35,089
- If you were iran
what would you do?
1192
01:14:35,094 --> 01:14:39,034
I mean, israel has what,
three to 400 nuclear weapons.
1193
01:14:39,031 --> 01:14:40,761
They're the ones who
started the damn arms race
1194
01:14:40,766 --> 01:14:42,166
In the middle east anyway.
1195
01:14:42,167 --> 01:14:44,567
They didn't sign a
non-proliferation treaty.
1196
01:14:44,569 --> 01:14:46,969
They built this
program in secret.
1197
01:14:46,971 --> 01:14:50,711
India and pakistan then went
on to do the same thing,
1198
01:14:50,708 --> 01:14:52,708
And iran, which did
sign the nuclear
1199
01:14:52,710 --> 01:14:55,780
Non-proliferation
treaty, looked around
1200
01:14:55,779 --> 01:14:57,779
And realized they'd
gotten screwed.
1201
01:14:57,781 --> 01:14:59,811
- the
obama administration
wants to sell bunker
1202
01:14:59,816 --> 01:15:01,546
Buster bombs which can penetrate
1203
01:15:01,551 --> 01:15:04,621
20 feet of solid
concrete to the uae.
1204
01:15:04,620 --> 01:15:06,120
The deal is the
latest u.S. Arms sale
1205
01:15:06,121 --> 01:15:08,691
To members of the gulf
cooperation council,
1206
01:15:08,690 --> 01:15:10,690
Six nations that neighbor iran.
1207
01:15:15,728 --> 01:15:18,758
- War has become a commodity
for several reasons.
1208
01:15:18,765 --> 01:15:20,455
One is because you
need somebody to
1209
01:15:20,466 --> 01:15:22,826
Buy the stuff you produce.
1210
01:15:22,835 --> 01:15:23,995
- another
u.S. Arms deal
1211
01:15:24,002 --> 01:15:26,542
With saudi arabia
is in the pipeline.
1212
01:15:26,537 --> 01:15:28,467
The biggest in history.
1213
01:15:28,472 --> 01:15:30,912
This deal alone surpasses
the entire global
1214
01:15:30,907 --> 01:15:34,037
Arms sale already
57 billion dollars.
1215
01:15:35,610 --> 01:15:36,880
- saudi arabia
does this enormous service
1216
01:15:36,878 --> 01:15:39,478
Of recycling the arms trade.
1217
01:15:40,746 --> 01:15:42,846
But war is also a
business in another sense.
1218
01:15:42,849 --> 01:15:45,819
There is a business
that uses war to
1219
01:15:45,818 --> 01:15:47,978
Get it's ends established.
1220
01:15:47,986 --> 01:15:50,646
This is george orwell's 1984.
1221
01:15:51,788 --> 01:15:53,888
Two powers are always
going to be in battle
1222
01:15:53,891 --> 01:15:55,821
And guess who's making
out really well?
1223
01:15:55,826 --> 01:16:00,056
Of course the weapons dealers,
and the people in power.
1224
01:16:03,531 --> 01:16:06,471
- Well the ultimate
manifestation of the national
1225
01:16:06,468 --> 01:16:09,468
Security state is
that it, not only
1226
01:16:10,471 --> 01:16:13,011
Seeks a perpetual state of war,
1227
01:16:13,007 --> 01:16:16,137
It will even go to
all ends to create
1228
01:16:16,143 --> 01:16:18,683
That perpetual state of war.
1229
01:16:18,678 --> 01:16:21,578
- I am always reminded of a book
1230
01:16:21,580 --> 01:16:25,210
I read a long time ago,
called invisible man.
1231
01:16:26,549 --> 01:16:29,549
And that book has a
beautiful sentence,
1232
01:16:30,886 --> 01:16:32,886
"I am an invisible man.
1233
01:16:32,889 --> 01:16:35,559
"not because I don't exist, but
1234
01:16:35,558 --> 01:16:37,958
"because you choose
not to see me."
1235
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,830
- Prince bandar do you
know the bin laden family?
1236
01:16:40,830 --> 01:16:44,800
- This is ironic, in the
mid 80's, if you remember
1237
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:50,100
Supporting the mujahideen
to liberate afghanistan
1238
01:16:51,137 --> 01:16:52,837
From the soviets.
1239
01:16:54,339 --> 01:16:57,909
Bin laden came to
thank me for my efforts
1240
01:16:57,910 --> 01:17:00,380
To bring the
americans, our friends,
1241
01:17:00,379 --> 01:17:04,349
To help us against the atheist,
he said, the communist.
1242
01:17:04,349 --> 01:17:08,679
- When I last saw bin
laden, in this camp
1243
01:17:08,686 --> 01:17:11,146
High in the mountains
of afghanistan,
1244
01:17:11,155 --> 01:17:13,715
With an air raid shelter
built into the living
1245
01:17:13,724 --> 01:17:17,064
Rock of the mountain,
25, 30 feet high,
1246
01:17:18,060 --> 01:17:20,630
That camp was built by the cia.
1247
01:17:20,630 --> 01:17:22,830
Later they tried to fire
cruise missiles at it,
1248
01:17:22,832 --> 01:17:23,902
Of course they
knew where it was.
1249
01:17:23,899 --> 01:17:25,129
They built it.
1250
01:17:27,100 --> 01:17:29,970
No wonder bin laden
kept smiling at me.
1251
01:17:29,970 --> 01:17:31,670
No wonder he did.
1252
01:17:34,172 --> 01:17:38,042
- The american saudi arabia
put one billion dollars each
1253
01:17:38,043 --> 01:17:41,343
To give them arms,
training, equipment,
1254
01:17:42,879 --> 01:17:45,079
We are the ones who cleared
all those people to go.
1255
01:17:45,082 --> 01:17:46,252
We and you.
1256
01:17:50,885 --> 01:17:53,285
- There must be something
wrong with the way we think.
1257
01:17:53,288 --> 01:17:55,348
That we can't say
that the grammar
1258
01:17:55,356 --> 01:17:58,086
Of the past, is operating today.
1259
01:17:59,358 --> 01:18:02,028
- We have been pumping
money, a great deal of money,
1260
01:18:02,028 --> 01:18:03,228
Without congressional authority,
1261
01:18:03,229 --> 01:18:05,659
Without any
congressional oversight.
1262
01:18:05,664 --> 01:18:07,404
Prince bandar of saudi
arabia is putting
1263
01:18:07,399 --> 01:18:10,169
Up some of this money
for covert operations
1264
01:18:10,168 --> 01:18:12,228
In many areas of the
middle east where we want
1265
01:18:12,236 --> 01:18:14,136
To stop the shiite
influence; they
1266
01:18:14,137 --> 01:18:15,997
Call it the shiite crescent.
1267
01:18:16,005 --> 01:18:17,695
- Thank you...
1268
01:18:17,706 --> 01:18:19,136
- the arabic
word is fitna, civil war.
1269
01:18:19,140 --> 01:18:21,140
We're in a business
right now of creating,
1270
01:18:21,142 --> 01:18:23,712
In some places,
sectarian violence.
1271
01:18:26,013 --> 01:18:27,283
- it's an odd
situation because
1272
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,750
We are trying to
destroy and liquidate
1273
01:18:29,749 --> 01:18:31,349
Al-qaeda and marlie,
but trying to give
1274
01:18:31,350 --> 01:18:34,980
Arms training to them
in northern syria.
1275
01:18:36,988 --> 01:18:38,748
It really is a world gone mad,
1276
01:18:38,756 --> 01:18:40,416
But oddly enough, you
have to be in syria
1277
01:18:40,424 --> 01:18:42,694
To realize how mad it is.
1278
01:18:44,727 --> 01:18:46,357
When you actually are
traveling around syria,
1279
01:18:46,361 --> 01:18:48,031
And you listen to
the news coming out
1280
01:18:48,029 --> 01:18:50,929
Of washington, it's
like americans are
1281
01:18:50,931 --> 01:18:52,461
Living in this kind
of fantasy world
1282
01:18:52,465 --> 01:18:55,125
That bears no relation
to planet earth,
1283
01:18:55,134 --> 01:18:57,274
Where I'm trying to report.
1284
01:19:27,093 --> 01:19:30,103
- Today there are good
terrorists, and bad terrorists.
1285
01:19:30,097 --> 01:19:32,297
The bad terrorists
are those in yemen,
1286
01:19:32,299 --> 01:19:34,899
Who the United States
deems to be a threat.
1287
01:19:34,901 --> 01:19:37,471
The good terrorists are
those who are in syria.
1288
01:19:37,470 --> 01:19:41,040
The joke here is we've
been there before.
1289
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:44,140
I mean, if you consider
the afghanistan story,
1290
01:19:44,143 --> 01:19:46,013
They've learned nothing.
1291
01:19:53,484 --> 01:19:57,824
Today if I say that the
saudis are giving money
1292
01:19:57,821 --> 01:20:00,821
To groups that are in
syria, that are not only
1293
01:20:00,824 --> 01:20:04,134
Al-nusra, but also the isis.
1294
01:20:05,227 --> 01:20:06,487
People will say you are
a conspiracy theorist,
1295
01:20:06,495 --> 01:20:08,125
But what I'm just
trying to say is
1296
01:20:08,129 --> 01:20:10,759
In the moment of
the contemporary,
1297
01:20:10,764 --> 01:20:14,834
This grammar of
dangerous politics
1298
01:20:15,432 --> 01:20:17,272
Sounds insane.
1299
01:20:27,110 --> 01:20:31,150
So what appears to have been
a conspiracy at the time,
1300
01:20:31,147 --> 01:20:35,077
When documents appear,
turns out to be true.
1301
01:20:36,783 --> 01:20:39,283
- We must address the
cycle of conflict,
1302
01:20:39,286 --> 01:20:42,246
Especially sectarian
conflict, that
1303
01:20:42,255 --> 01:20:45,415
Creates the conditions
that terrorists prey upon.
1304
01:20:45,424 --> 01:20:48,994
- in public they
say, we have to end terrorism.
1305
01:20:48,994 --> 01:20:52,364
Meanwhile, this private
work of getting involved
1306
01:20:52,364 --> 01:20:56,804
In conflicts stirs the
pot, which produces
1307
01:20:56,801 --> 01:21:00,971
Characters that appear
to become terrorists.
1308
01:21:00,971 --> 01:21:04,011
Which reinforces the
public narrative,
1309
01:21:04,007 --> 01:21:07,807
And then makes things
like intervention okay.
1310
01:21:08,576 --> 01:21:11,336
- Good morning everybody.
1311
01:21:11,346 --> 01:21:14,306
Last night on my orders,
america's armed forces
1312
01:21:14,315 --> 01:21:17,815
Began strikes against
isil targets in syria.
1313
01:21:25,924 --> 01:21:27,424
- just ahead
of air strikes in syria,
1314
01:21:27,426 --> 01:21:31,226
Defense firms, lockheed
martin, northrop, raytheon,
1315
01:21:31,229 --> 01:21:33,559
And general dynamics
corporation all set
1316
01:21:33,564 --> 01:21:35,234
Stock price records.
1317
01:21:35,232 --> 01:21:37,032
Their shareholders
are making money off
1318
01:21:37,033 --> 01:21:41,943
The unusually large number of
conflicts around the world.
1319
01:21:49,076 --> 01:21:50,406
- every two years
or so, the israeli military
1320
01:21:50,410 --> 01:21:53,040
Attacks the gaza
strip and right after
1321
01:21:53,045 --> 01:21:55,075
There is a trade
show, in which israeli
1322
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,380
Weapon companies show
their technologies.
1323
01:21:58,983 --> 01:22:02,483
Which are becoming an
increasingly important
1324
01:22:02,486 --> 01:22:04,246
And very significant
part of the israeli
1325
01:22:04,254 --> 01:22:07,294
Economy depend on those wars.
1326
01:22:07,290 --> 01:22:10,490
They try to market,
"we've already used
1327
01:22:10,493 --> 01:22:13,133
"that on actual human beings."
1328
01:22:13,128 --> 01:22:15,328
By making that claim
they're able to compete
1329
01:22:15,330 --> 01:22:19,000
With weapon manufacturers
from other countries.
1330
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:20,230
The United States is the biggest
1331
01:22:20,234 --> 01:22:23,244
Supplier of military
aid to israel.
1332
01:22:23,237 --> 01:22:25,037
This attack on gaza
is also a trade show
1333
01:22:25,038 --> 01:22:28,108
For the united
states arms industry.
1334
01:22:48,425 --> 01:22:50,215
- Iran and isis are
competing for the
1335
01:22:50,226 --> 01:22:53,056
Crown of militant islam.
1336
01:22:53,062 --> 01:22:56,202
One calls itself the
islamic republic.
1337
01:22:56,198 --> 01:22:59,268
The other calls itself
the islamic state.
1338
01:22:59,267 --> 01:23:02,367
Both want to impose a
militant islamic empire.
1339
01:23:02,370 --> 01:23:04,240
First in the region.
1340
01:23:04,238 --> 01:23:06,608
And then on the entire world.
1341
01:23:06,607 --> 01:23:08,407
They just disagree
among themselves
1342
01:23:08,408 --> 01:23:12,278
Who will be the
ruler of that empire.
1343
01:23:12,278 --> 01:23:15,308
In this deadly game
of thrones, there's
1344
01:23:15,314 --> 01:23:18,254
No place for america,
or for israel.
1345
01:23:18,250 --> 01:23:21,420
- Today, after two
years of negotiations,
1346
01:23:21,419 --> 01:23:24,919
The United States, together
with our international partners,
1347
01:23:24,922 --> 01:23:26,392
Has achieved
something that decades
1348
01:23:26,390 --> 01:23:28,390
Of animosity has not.
1349
01:23:29,425 --> 01:23:32,385
A comprehensive
long-term deal with iran,
1350
01:23:32,395 --> 01:23:35,625
That will prevent it from
obtaining a nuclear weapon.
1351
01:23:35,631 --> 01:23:37,501
- This was a very
difficult negotiations,
1352
01:23:37,499 --> 01:23:40,469
And part of it is
because of this
1353
01:23:40,468 --> 01:23:43,468
Entrenched and
compounded mistrust
1354
01:23:43,471 --> 01:23:45,641
That we have built
between ourselves mutually
1355
01:23:45,639 --> 01:23:48,369
For the last three,
four decades.
1356
01:23:48,375 --> 01:23:50,635
But I'm happy that,
we simply write,
1357
01:23:50,643 --> 01:23:54,283
Diplomacy pre-write,
that people exercised
1358
01:23:54,279 --> 01:23:56,649
A great deal of
restraint and patience,
1359
01:23:56,648 --> 01:23:59,478
And wisdom, and we
are where we are,
1360
01:23:59,484 --> 01:24:03,194
And I hope this will
be a good beginning.
1361
01:24:05,321 --> 01:24:07,361
- as this
nuclear deal goes through
1362
01:24:07,357 --> 01:24:08,957
We're still dealing
with the problem
1363
01:24:08,958 --> 01:24:12,158
That the states of this
region are collapsing.
1364
01:24:12,161 --> 01:24:13,961
And the void that
they will fill,
1365
01:24:13,962 --> 01:24:18,132
You will see more violence
and you will see more weapons.
1366
01:24:18,132 --> 01:24:19,432
It is important to understand
1367
01:24:19,433 --> 01:24:22,433
That that's not a
result of this deal.
1368
01:24:22,436 --> 01:24:25,436
That is a result of the
paradigm not shifting
1369
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:27,469
Towards de-militarization,
and collective
1370
01:24:27,474 --> 01:24:29,374
Security, soon enough.
1371
01:24:30,641 --> 01:24:32,981
- The saudis and the israelis
are on the same page.
1372
01:24:32,977 --> 01:24:34,407
They worry about iran...
1373
01:24:34,411 --> 01:24:37,311
- And that's not new, they've
been worried for a long...
1374
01:24:37,313 --> 01:24:38,553
- but can
they do anything about it?
1375
01:24:38,547 --> 01:24:42,417
- Well they can get
their own weapons.
1376
01:24:42,417 --> 01:24:44,047
- this is a
region that has more arms
1377
01:24:44,051 --> 01:24:47,421
Per capita than any other
region in the world.
1378
01:24:47,421 --> 01:24:49,391
Much thanks to the
defense industry,
1379
01:24:49,389 --> 01:24:51,359
Israel and some of
the arab states are
1380
01:24:51,357 --> 01:24:53,387
Going to be able to
buy more weapons,
1381
01:24:53,392 --> 01:24:56,032
And more advanced weapons.
1382
01:24:56,027 --> 01:24:59,357
If the nuclear threat
from iran is decreasing,
1383
01:24:59,363 --> 01:25:01,263
Why should these other countries
1384
01:25:01,264 --> 01:25:04,674
Get a chance to actually
arm themselves more?
1385
01:25:04,667 --> 01:25:06,567
- Pakistan is a friend
of saudi arabia.
1386
01:25:06,568 --> 01:25:08,468
Pakistan has nuclear weapons.
1387
01:25:08,470 --> 01:25:10,670
Are you in discussions
with pakistan about,
1388
01:25:10,672 --> 01:25:14,712
Perhaps, getting a nuclear
bomb from pakistan?
1389
01:25:14,709 --> 01:25:16,809
- But wolf we've known
each other for 25 years,
1390
01:25:16,811 --> 01:25:20,411
You don't really expect me
to answer this question.
1391
01:25:24,816 --> 01:25:26,646
- we're not
going to have a truly
1392
01:25:26,652 --> 01:25:30,452
De-militarization in
the region, unless
1393
01:25:30,455 --> 01:25:33,885
Israel's nuclear arsenal
also is addressed.
1394
01:25:35,191 --> 01:25:36,491
The significant
of this peace deal
1395
01:25:36,493 --> 01:25:38,693
Is that it is a game
changer in the region.
1396
01:25:38,695 --> 01:25:40,625
And it's gonna be a
question about the
1397
01:25:40,630 --> 01:25:42,600
Political willingness of leaders
1398
01:25:42,598 --> 01:25:45,428
To whether they will
pursue these opportunities,
1399
01:25:45,434 --> 01:25:48,874
Or whether they will fall
into the patterns of the past.
1400
01:26:10,522 --> 01:26:12,522
- Once you start a war,
1401
01:26:15,759 --> 01:26:18,259
You open a kind
of pandora's box.
1402
01:26:18,262 --> 01:26:21,502
You don't control
it, it controls you.
1403
01:26:23,297 --> 01:26:26,367
The use of that
kind of violence has
1404
01:26:26,367 --> 01:26:29,497
Unforeseen consequences,
that no one can predict.
1405
01:26:29,503 --> 01:26:33,243
And it propels you in directions
1406
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:34,870
You never thought you'd go.
1407
01:26:34,874 --> 01:26:36,814
That's what war does.
1408
01:26:42,247 --> 01:26:47,177
So, the images of war are
very carefully controlled
1409
01:26:47,184 --> 01:26:50,454
And countered by
the lives that have
1410
01:26:50,453 --> 01:26:54,223
Been disseminated
through every institution
1411
01:26:54,223 --> 01:26:57,793
In society, schools, government,
1412
01:26:57,793 --> 01:27:00,763
Entertainment, the press.
1413
01:27:02,495 --> 01:27:04,625
When you shatter the myth,
1414
01:27:04,631 --> 01:27:06,301
And when you
understand, especially
1415
01:27:06,299 --> 01:27:08,699
What techno-war,
industrial war is about,
1416
01:27:08,701 --> 01:27:11,801
Which is really about
murder, about slaughter,
1417
01:27:11,804 --> 01:27:13,574
People would be so repulsed.
1418
01:27:13,572 --> 01:27:16,472
It would be very
hard to wage war.
1419
01:32:03,910 --> 01:32:04,780
♪ I see no one
1420
01:32:04,778 --> 01:32:07,908
♪ as happy as I am
1421
01:32:08,980 --> 01:32:13,150
♪ I feel like a
1422
01:32:20,790 --> 01:32:25,490
♪ darling let's dance
together till morning ♪
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