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this one is rather recent very late in
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the series the interview process has
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been ongoing since the being arrived
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which was in
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1989 approximately twice a month they
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sit it down for a session that generally
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lasts from 3 to 5 hours if they try to
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go longer than that or if they schedule
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the sessions more frequently the being
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becomes
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unresponsive there's a fair amount of
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infighting among the scientists from
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different disciplines to get their
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questions asked what is the
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revealed various minor technical details
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of the saucers the physicists and
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Engineers are frankly frustrated they
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feel the being is withholding
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information possibly concepts are
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getting lost because all the information
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has to come through a telepath but also
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it may be that the bulk of their
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scientific knowledge is just too
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advanced to be translated into our
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primitive conceptual
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framework it's analogous to if a human
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scientist were to try to translate
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quantum mechanics into the grunts and SC
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of a chimpanzee that's not a very
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flattering
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comparison frankly there's a high
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attrition rate for scientists in the
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program you'd think they'd be energized
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by the challenge but a lot of them take
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uh the ego deflation very hard when they
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find out not only how much they don't
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know but how much they aren't even
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capable of understanding what else has
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the alien
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communicated oddly enough the being
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seems to have a much easier time
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communicating spiritual Concepts
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the the human
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body is a vehicle um a
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vessel and the vessel must be maintained
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to serve
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this the
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spirit with maximum efficiency but a
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broken vessel can be
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replaced human Spirit or the
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soul can have many vessels is the
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process natural or
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technological both are uh both are
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one technology is
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natural
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excrescence of
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humanity technology is a is is a
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process the vessel uses to perfect
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itself so this transference of the soul
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from vessel to vessel did your kind
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create the mechanics of it or is it a a
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natural did it predate the intellectual
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creation before understanding must come
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acceptance and it's not
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technological well I think what he's
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trying to say is is that the the
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question is meaningless the soul can
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travel from vessel to vessel
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reincarnation Transfiguration whatever
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it's real what I'm getting at is does he
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know how it's
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done Victor uses the term vessels to
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refer to the alien's conception of the
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body as a disposable vehicle for the
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soul the UFO cult known as Heaven's Gate
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use the term containers in a similar
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context the mass suicide of the Heaven's
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Gate cultists illustrates the Dark Side
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of accepting such ideas at face
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value doe the Heaven's Gate cult leader
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preached that humans can pass from
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container to container the mysterious
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Victor on the other hand Harbors no such
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belief in his interview recorded months
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before the Rancho Santa Fe tragedy
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Victor made his attachment to his own
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Earthly V
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abundantly clear and let me just State
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here publicly to head off any clever
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ideas anyone might be
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having I have never been am not now and
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never will be
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suicidal but how would the public know
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if something happened to you since we
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don't know who you
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are I'm taking care of that trust me if
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something happens to me if I die people
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will know who I
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am do you think think it's a reassuring
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sign that these aliens can communicate
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with us on a spiritual plane it would be
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nice to think so but I'm not sure if
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it's really such an achievement
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considering the mismatch between our
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intellects I mean you're not going to
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have much luck making your dog
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understand calculus but if you pet him
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on the head and say good dog aren't you
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communicating
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spiritually and doesn't the Animal
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control officer say good dog when he
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comes to put some poor stray to sleep
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doesn't the vet try to reassure the
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animal just before he spays it when
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you're dealing with beings whose
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intellect is so far beyond your own I
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don't think it's safe to assume they
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have your best interests at heart what
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about the content of the tape segment
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you
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brought as I said this is late in the
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series in fact it's quite close to the
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end because of his unwillingness to
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reveal his own identity Victor's story
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stands or falls on The credibility of
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the tape he supplied here exclusively
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for the first time anywhere is the uncut
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uninterrupted alien interview tape shown
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in its entirety in real time
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