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Okay. You wanna just lay this down?
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[Ella] Ready when you are.
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I'm ready.
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[Ella] Are you recording?
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I am now.
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[Ella] ♪ When I fall in love ♪
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♪ It will be forever ♪
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♪ Or I'll never ♪
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♪ Fall in love ♪
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♪ In a restless world ♪
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♪ Like this is ♪
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♪ Love is ended before it's begun ♪
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♪ And too many ♪
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♪ Moonlight kisses ♪
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♪ Seem to cool ♪
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♪ In the warmth of the sun ♪
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♪ When I give my heart ♪
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♪ It will be completely ♪
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♪ Or I'll never give ♪
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♪ My heart ♪
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♪ And the moment ♪
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♪ I can feel ♪
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♪ That you feel ♪
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♪ That way too ♪
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♪ Is when I fall in love ♪
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♪ With you ♪
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♪ Or I'll never fall ♪
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♪ In love ♪
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♪ And the moment ♪
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♪ I can feel that ♪
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♪ You feel ♪
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♪ That way too ♪
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♪ Is when I fall in love ♪
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♪ With you ♪
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This just might do nobody any good.
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At the end of this discourse,
a few people may accuse
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this reporter of fouling
his own comfortable nest.
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And you all may be accused
of giving hospitality
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to heretical and even dangerous thoughts.
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It is my desire, if not my duty,
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to try to speak to you with some candor
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about what is happening in our mass media.
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You should know at the outset
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that I appear here voluntarily,
by invitation,
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and that these remarks are strictly
of a do-it-yourself nature.
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If what I have to say is responsible,
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I alone am responsible
for the saying of it.
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I've decided to express my concern
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on the manner
in which we inform ourselves.
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I am seized by an abiding fear
of what these instruments
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are doing to our society,
our culture, our heritage.
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Our history will be what we make of it.
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And if any historians,
50 to 100 years from now were to look,
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they would in there
find evidence of decadence,
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escapism, and insulation
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from the realities
of the world in which we live.
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And surely we will pay a price.
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We are currently fat,
comfortable, and complacent.
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We have a built-in allergy to unpleasant
or disturbing information,
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but unless we get off of our fat assets
and recognize that media in the main
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is being used to distract, delude, amuse,
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and insulate us,
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then those who finance it,
those who profit from it,
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those who work at it,
and those who consume it
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may see a totally
different picture too late.
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Good evening. Earlier tonight,
Adlai E. Stevenson
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urged the United States
to take the initiative
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-in peace talks with the Soviet Union.
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The talks are aimed
toward worldwide disarmament
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and assurances of non-aggression
for the Russians,
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-as well as for the free world.
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In a broadcast
from his globe-circling tour,
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Stevenson warned
the Eisenhower administration
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against shutting the door on conferences
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with the Soviet leaders
and putting too much pressure...
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I'll be right down.
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...on the uncommitted bloc of nations
not linked with either...
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Millie, this is the Annie Lee Moss
footage from yesterday.
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Okay, I'll give it to Leo.
Wait, it's only two cans?
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What? Oh, yeah, that's all it is,
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but there's some notes with it
to go for Fred.
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Oh, Fred's in with the guys.
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[chuckles] Okay,
I'll give the film to Leo.
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You can go ahead
and give the notes to Fred.
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[both] He's in the writer's room.
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-Yeah. Thank you, Palmer.
-Thank you, Millie.
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Hi, Joe. Shirley, what's going on in here?
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-[Joe] Hey, Palmer.
-[Shirley] Hello, Palmer.
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-Just making some copies for the...
-[Shirley] Nothing.
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Just making sure. Two attractive
people alone in a copy room.
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-[chuckles] Okay, Palmer.
-I mean...
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-Don't tell anyone.
-I, uh, certainly won't say anything.
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Well, don't tell Fred. He'll fire me.
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Well, I mean, both of us.
Shirley, it's the nepotism rule.
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The nepotism rule.
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You know, I think Joe would get the axe.
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[chuckles] Well, uh,
rules are made to be broken.
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You can afford to say that.
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Oh, actually, Shirley, I think he's right.
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What do you say?
You want to get a drink tonight?
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Yeah, you know,
just a couple of guys trying to help.
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The day I need dating advice
from you two knuckleheads is...
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Ouch. All right.
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Let me see this.
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I don't know.
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It's simply a loyalty oath.
I mean, there's nothing in there about...
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-To CBS?
-To America.
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-You promise to be a loyal American?
-All the reporters have it.
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Who were you promising this to?
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-Fred signed it.
-CBS, Paley--
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And Murrow.
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-Murrow signed it?
-Murrow signed it.
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"Are you now, or have you ever been,
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a member of these organizations..."
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[Joe] I've had it for a while now.
I thought this was a joke.
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...that appeared on the Attorney General's
list of subversive groups?
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It's a lot of pressure.
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I don't know.
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All right, let's think about this.
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What is it really saying?
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Is it a civil liberties issue?
Is it censorship?
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I don't know.
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I mean, is it simply stating
to CBS that I'm not a Communist?
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-Murrow signed it.
-And Fred.
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-Maybe you should talk to Fred.
-Well, I talked to Fred.
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He told me to sign it.
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If you don't sign it,
are you and I a target?
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If I don't sign it, they will fire me.
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Well...
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at least then
we can tell everyone the truth.
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[chuckles] Okay, all right.
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[Joe] Hey, they got the film?
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Uh, yeah, it's all queued up
and ready to go.
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Oh, Eddie, you're right.
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I went through the D.C. phone book.
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More than one
Annie Lee Moss in there, right?
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-Oh, yeah, a lot more.
-See? I told you.
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All right, here they are.
Hey, Joe, we got it queued up.
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Hey, Fred, do you want a cigarette?
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No, I'll just breathe the air.
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[Palmer] Okay, thank you. All right.
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-Ready? All right.
-Yeah.
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On this reel, this woman, Annie Lee Moss.
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This is the person McCarthy
has spent two weeks
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claiming was a spy in the Pentagon.
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Yeah, well, she was a clerk
in the communications office.
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Right.
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So, after all this buildup,
she finally comes in.
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McCarthy only asks her four questions,
and he gets up and he leaves.
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-Wait, wait, wait. He just left?
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Well, he realized
he had nothing, so...
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Uh, Leo, hit it.
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[Palmer] Yeah, yeah, yeah...
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[McCarthy] And, uh...
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...you say you personally
did not know Robert Hall.
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-No, sir.
-That you were
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not there when he came to the house.
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-That's right.
-Uh...
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Do you know what business
Robert Hall had with your husband,
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besides merely delivering
the copy of the daily work?
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-No, sir. I do not.
-Uh...
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I'm afraid I'm going
to have to excuse myself.
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I've got a... uh, a rather important
appointment tonight,
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which I've got to work on right now.
And I wonder if none of them are...
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-[Charlie] Wait, wait, wait.
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All right, look, and Charlie
gets a shot at the empty chair.
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-[Cohn] Chairman...
-[Palmer] Right there!
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...I have no further questions
of this witness at this time.
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We have the testimony of Mrs. Markward,
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the undercover agent for the FBI,
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stating that Annie Lee Moss was a member,
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a dues-paying member
of the Communist Party...
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The Northeast Club of the Communist Party.
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[Fred] Leo, that's enough. Turn it off.
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[Eddie] Oh, that Roy Cohn's
a real charmer.
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Ed, did you see that he just walked out?
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She is not a spy.
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You don't know that.
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Boy, I'll take the odds on it, Fred.
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-What do you think, Ed?
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You haven't made your case.
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He's lying.
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What's your proof?
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I... I think it's pretty obvious.
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Is that our standard now, what you think?
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McCarthy told the whole country
he found the spy
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in the Pentagon, and it was her?
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Meaning what?
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[chuckles] I mean, Ed,
does she look like a spy to you?
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What does a spy look like, Palmer?
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He got up and left his own hearing.
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Prove she's not a spy
and you have a story.
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Until then, you haven't
made your case. File it.
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Okay, fellas, let's save it with the rest
of the Senate footage. Thanks.
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Fred, uh...
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Did you guys look
at the Secretary Stevens stuff?
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-We will, John. Not yet.
-Just watch it to the end.
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-All the way to the end.
-Thank you, John.
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-Thank you, John.
-It's worth it.
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It's pretty good stuff, Ed.
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You ever spent any time in Detroit, Fred?
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We got 20 or so of these pieces filed.
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There's a story here
in the Detroit Free Press,
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Dexter, Michigan.
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Kid named Milo Radulovich.
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-Italian?
-Irish.
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Air force kicked him out
'cause his dad read
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some Serbian newspaper.
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They called Milo a security risk.
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-Is his dad a Communist?
-I don't know.
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-Who brought the charges?
-The air force.
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The charges were in a sealed envelope.
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-Nobody saw them.
-Not even at the hearing?
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He was declared guilty without a trial
and told that if he wants to keep his job
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he has to denounce
his father and his sister.
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So he told them to take a hike.
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His sister, huh?
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Let's send Joe and Charlie down there,
see if he's any good on camera.
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Is he being brought before the committee?
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-No.
-So it's not McCarthy.
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Isn't it?
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Milo Radulovich.
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Lt. Radulovich.
Uh, Milo, let me ask you this.
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What happens now to your two children,
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that is your five-year-old
and your five-month-old,
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in terms of you?
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{\an8}Yes. If I am being judged on my relatives,
if, uh...
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{\an8}Are my children
going to be asked to, uh,
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{\an8}denounce me? Are they going to be judged
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{\an8}on what their father was labeled?
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Are they going to, uh,
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have to explain
to their friends, et cetera,
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why their father is a security risk?
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I... I see, absolutely,
that this is a chain reaction
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if the thing is let stand
as the first recommendation
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was sent out by the board,
I see a chain reaction that...
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[chuckles] ...has no end
to anybody, for anybody.
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Well, that's new.
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And I don't think you can
call this a neutral piece.
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We tried to talk to the air force...
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I think the other side's
been represented--
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They haven't gone on record.
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-Their lawyers won't unseal the envelope.
-Hey!
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So you just want to forego the standards
you've stuck to for over 15 years?
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Both sides, no commentary.
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Hey, hey, hey, blah, blah, blah.
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I'm just making sure we identify
what it is you're both doing.
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I can't find any justification for this.
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I can't accept that on every story
there are two equal and logical sides.
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You want to call that editorializing?
We'll give them equal time.
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-It is editorializing. Period.
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You understand the position
you're putting us in?
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We're all in it together.
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If the Senate or the air force
asks for equal time...
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Oh, Fred, do me this favor.
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Avoid any speeches about how we're all
in a big boat together.
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-Please, don't insult me.
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I have to go back to ALCOA,
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who sponsors your show
and also has military contracts,
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and I gotta tell them
they might get caught
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in a tough bind because you had
a beef with Joe McCarthy.
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I'm not going at Joe McCarthy...
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Well, you're starting a goddamn fire.
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-I know what this is, Ed...
-You guaranteed me.
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This goes back to Hear It Now.
You guaranteed that corporate
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would have no influence
over news content.
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What I'm saying is
please don't try to con me
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into thinking this will be good for me.
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Just do me that courtesy.
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I-- I'm sorry, Mr. Paley, Mr. Murrow.
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Fred, there's a Colonel Anderson
here to see you.
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[Fred] Okay, Shirley.
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-Where is he?
-He's in your office.
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Sorry, gentlemen. Uh...
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Maybe this guy loves the transcript
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and is here to congratulate me.
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Go after Joe Kennedy. We'll pay for it.
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We got a great story about Hoover.
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[chuckles] Do you know
how many Person to Persons
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you'll have to do to make this up?
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Oh, Judy and her daughter Liza next week.
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No chance. You will be interviewing Lassie
and then Mr. Ed back to back.
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ALCOA won't pay for it.
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We probably won't either.
Nobody will stop you.
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-How much are the ads?
-3,000.
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I'll split it with Fred.
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He just won't have
Christmas presents for his kid this year.
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He's a Jew.
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-Well, go tell Fred. He loves Christmas.
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Colonel.
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[Anderson] Mr. Friendly.
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Please.
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[Fred] I trust you've had a chance
to review the transcript.
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We have,
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but we've not been allowed
to see the footage.
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We're still shooting it.
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Charlie Mack is on a plane from Dexter
with the last of the interviews.
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We'll be going right down to the wire.
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Your show airs tomorrow.
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How can we possibly comment
on what we're being accused of?
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-You haven't given us the foot--
-Colonel...
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With all due respect...
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you have been invited
to comment on this piece.
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Not to approve this piece.
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We are going with the story
that says that the US Air Force
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tried Milo Radulovich
without one shred of evidence
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and found him guilty
of being a security risk
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without the Constitutional right...
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And you have also not seen the evidence
claiming he's not.
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Wouldn't you guess that the people
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that have seen the contents
of that envelope
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might know a little more
about what makes a person
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-a danger to his country?
-Who are these people?
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-Are they elected, appointed?
-Should it just be you that decides?
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Do they have an axe to grind?
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-Is it you, sir?
-Mister Friendly.
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Do you know even the contents
of that sealed envelope?
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We have been a friend and ally
of Mr. Murrow and CBS News.
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The story you intend to air
is without merit.
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Now, before you take steps
that cannot be undone,
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I urge you to reconsider your stand.
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These are very dangerous waters
you're attempting to navigate.
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Two minutes to air!
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Damn it, Millie, unload
that thing before I crack.
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-[Millie] A couple more seconds.
-All right.
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[Millie] Ugh.
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Okay.
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-Is Don ready for this?
-I don't know.
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Tell him I front-loaded the opening
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with about five seconds extra.
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Front-loaded, five seconds.
Thank you, Millie.
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Oh, Millie, tell Joe he's gonna have
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-to do the voiceover live.
-[Millie] Joe's on set.
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-We ain't got time to sync it up.
-[Millie] No, you tell him.
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We need a live mic on the floor.
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[Millie] I'll get the mic set.
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[Palmer] Hi, Don. It's front-loaded.
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-How much?
-[Palmer] By about five seconds.
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[Hewitt] I said it's too much!
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-[Palmer] And it's missing the voiceover...
-Okay. Which piece is Joe gonna do live?
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-[Palmer] His questions.
-Why don't we try to sync it up
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-with the whole show on air?
-Yeah, Joe can do it live.
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-I hate this.
-You love it.
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Fred. Fred, did you time Ed's intro?
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-I think we're gonna be long.
-Long is good, Don.
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Remember, no commercial break.
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Right. Right, I've gotta add two minutes.
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Don, they're doing
a commercial in the booth.
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What commercial?
We didn't have any commercial!
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Okay. Yeah. Eddie, set up a mic.
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[Millie] I got it, Don. I got it.
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[Hewitt] And get that idiot
out of the booth!
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[Eddie] Natalie...
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[Hewitt] Joe, it's too loud in here.
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{\an8}-One minute.
-Three. Okay. Thank you.
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{\an8}[Fred] We got the film.
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Will it be ready?
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Yep.
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What do you think, Freddie?
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Every time you light a cigarette
for me, I know you're lying.
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We'll have it. We'll have it.
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What'd the colonel tell you yesterday?
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[chuckles] He wasn't too pleased.
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You're gonna get audited this year.
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Not me, you.
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I told him I didn't want to do the piece.
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You always were yellow.
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-Better than red.
-[Hewitt] Twenty seconds.
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You know...
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it occurs to me we might
not get away with this one.
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[Hewitt] Ten seconds.
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In five, four, three, two...
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[announcer] Stand by now for See It Now
with Edward R. Murrow.
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[announcer] ALCOA,
Aluminum Company of America,
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in cooperation with CBS Television,
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presents the distinguished
reporter and news analyst
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Edward R. Murrow in See It Now,
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edited and produced by Mr. Murrow
and Fred W. Friendly,
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a weekly presentation
of Aluminum Company of America,
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the nation's leading producer of aluminum.
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Now speaking to you from the control room
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of Studio 41 is the editor of See It Now,
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-Edward R Murrow.
-[Hewitt] Live in five, four, three, two...
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Good evening.
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A few weeks ago there appeared
a few obscure notices
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in the newspapers
about a Lt. Milo Radulovich,
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a lieutenant in the Air Force Reserve.
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And also something about
Air Force Regulation 35-62.
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That is a regulation
which states that a person
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may be regarded as a security risk
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if he has close and continuing association
with Communists
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or people believed
to have Communist sympathies.
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The lieutenant was asked
to resign in August.
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He declined. A board was called
and his case was heard.
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At the end, it was recommended
that he be severed
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from the air force,
although it was also stated
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that there was no question whatsoever
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as to the lieutenant's loyalty.
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We propose to examine, insofar as we can,
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the case of Milo Radulovich.
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Our reporter, Joe Wershba,
cameraman, Charlie Mack.
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[Joe] This is the town
of Dexter, Michigan,
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population, 1,500.
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This is the story of Milo Radulovich.
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No special hero, no martyr.
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He came to Dexter one year ago
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after ten years in the air force.
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The air force, uh...
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...does not question my loyalty
in the least.
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They have reiterated that
on several occasions.
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Uh... They have presented me
with allegations
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against my sister and father,
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uh, that they have, uh...
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To the effect that my sister
and dad have taken...
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have read what are now called
subversive newspapers,
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and that, um...
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my sister and father's
activities are questionable.
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That's the specific charge or allegation,
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I prefer to call it, against them.
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Lt. Radulovich was defended
by attorney Charles C. Lockwood,
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and this is the report on the hearing.
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{\an8}The air force did not produce
a single witness.
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{\an8}We were not told who the accusers were.
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{\an8}We had no right to confront them
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{\an8}or to cross-examine them.
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{\an8}But at the conclusion of the trial,
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{\an8}although we had met the allegations,
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the air force made findings
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at the conclusion of the hearing
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that every single allegation was true.
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This is the sister,
Margaret Radulovich Fishman.
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She neither defends nor explains
her political activities.
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I feel that my activities,
well, be they what they may,
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or my political beliefs,
are my own private affair.
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And I feel that the charges, uh...
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leveled against me
and by reason of which he is...
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they are trying to purge him
from the army, are, uh,
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just, you know, it just seemed to me to be
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a fantastic trend in this country.
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Milo, I guess a lot of people
must have asked you
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from time to time.
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Wouldn't it have been
a lot easier for you if you'd...
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Well, just kept sort of quiet
about the whole thing?
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Maybe resigned and nobody would
have known anything about it,
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and all this trouble
wouldn't have come to you?
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Yes, that's right.
I could have signed a, uh,
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resignation form, which was titled
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"A resignation in Lieu of
Elimination from the Service."
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And this would have given me
an honorable discharge.
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However, the honorable
discharge would have stipulated
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that I had, you know, been discharged, uh,
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because the air force could not trust me.
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In other words,
because I have been discharged
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as a security risk.
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And what happens to your two children?
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That is your five-year-old
and your five-month-old
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in terms of you?
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Yes, if I am being judged on my relatives,
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if, uh, are my children
going to be asked to, uh...
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denounce me? Are they going to be judged
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on what their father was labeled?
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Are they going to, uh,
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have to explain
to their friends, et cetera,
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why their father is a security risk?
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I see absolutely
that this is a chain reaction
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if... if the thing is let stand
as the first recommendation,
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uh, was sent out by the board,
I see a chain reaction
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-that has no end to anybody...
-Five, four, three, two...
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...for anybody.
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Perhaps you'll permit me to read
a few sentences just at the end
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because I'd like to say
rather precisely what we mean.
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We have told the air force
that we will provide facilities
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for any corrections or criticisms
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it should like to make
in the case of Milo Radulovich.
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We are unable to judge the charges against
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00:24:51,990 --> 00:24:54,701
the lieutenant's father
or sister because neither we,
497
00:24:54,784 --> 00:24:57,370
nor you, nor they, nor the lawyers
498
00:24:57,454 --> 00:25:01,082
know precisely what was contained
in that manila envelope.
499
00:25:01,166 --> 00:25:03,752
Was it hearsay, rumor, gossip, slander?
500
00:25:03,835 --> 00:25:08,089
Or was it hard ascertainable fact
that can be backed by credible witnesses?
501
00:25:08,173 --> 00:25:09,758
We do not know.
502
00:25:09,841 --> 00:25:12,177
We believe the son
shall not bear the iniquity
503
00:25:12,260 --> 00:25:14,512
of the father even
if that iniquity be proved.
504
00:25:14,596 --> 00:25:16,932
And, in this case, it was not.
505
00:25:17,015 --> 00:25:20,143
But we also believe that this
case illustrates the urgent need
506
00:25:20,227 --> 00:25:22,562
for the armed forces
to communicate more fully
507
00:25:22,646 --> 00:25:25,482
than they have so far done
the regulations and procedures
508
00:25:25,565 --> 00:25:28,485
to be followed in attempting
to protect national security
509
00:25:28,568 --> 00:25:31,154
and the rights of the individual.
510
00:25:31,238 --> 00:25:33,865
In any case, whatever happens
in this whole area
511
00:25:33,949 --> 00:25:38,411
of the relationship between the individual
and the state, we will do it ourselves.
512
00:25:38,495 --> 00:25:41,581
It cannot be blamed
on Malenkov or Mao Tse-Tung
513
00:25:41,665 --> 00:25:46,294
or even our allies. And it seems to us,
that is Fred Friendly and myself,
514
00:25:46,378 --> 00:25:50,340
that this is a subject that should be
argued about endlessly.
515
00:25:50,423 --> 00:25:52,259
Good night, and good luck.
516
00:25:53,468 --> 00:25:54,928
[announcer] Friday's Edward R. Murrow
517
00:25:55,011 --> 00:25:57,764
Person to Person,
on the CBS Television Network.
518
00:25:59,516 --> 00:26:01,142
[Hewitt] And we're out.
519
00:26:01,226 --> 00:26:05,480
520
00:26:06,731 --> 00:26:08,441
521
00:26:08,525 --> 00:26:10,527
-Are we in for it, Freddy?
-
522
00:26:10,610 --> 00:26:13,947
-I think we're fine.
-
523
00:26:14,030 --> 00:26:17,075
524
00:26:17,158 --> 00:26:20,453
[Ella] Oh, I like the sound
of this.
525
00:26:20,537 --> 00:26:24,541
What's this tune? Ah, all right.
526
00:26:26,835 --> 00:26:28,878
I sure hope I remember these words.
527
00:26:28,962 --> 00:26:32,340
It's been a while. Right here.
528
00:26:32,424 --> 00:26:37,762
♪ I've got my eyes on you ♪
529
00:26:37,846 --> 00:26:43,143
♪ So best beware
Where you roam ♪
530
00:26:45,603 --> 00:26:47,897
♪ I... ♪
531
00:26:47,981 --> 00:26:50,108
-♪ No, don't know the word ♪
532
00:26:50,191 --> 00:26:51,192
[producer] Great.
533
00:26:51,276 --> 00:26:56,114
♪ I thought I did
But I don't... ♪
534
00:26:56,197 --> 00:26:57,073
Incidentally.
535
00:26:57,157 --> 00:26:59,451
♪ Incidentally
I... ♪
536
00:26:59,534 --> 00:27:01,077
Thank you, Lorain.
537
00:27:01,161 --> 00:27:07,167
♪ Set my spies on you
I'm checking on all you do ♪
538
00:27:07,250 --> 00:27:11,546
♪ From A to Z ♪
539
00:27:11,629 --> 00:27:17,344
♪ So, darling, just be wise ♪
540
00:27:17,427 --> 00:27:23,808
♪ Keep your eyes on me ♪
541
00:27:23,892 --> 00:27:30,565
♪ Keep your eyes on me ♪
542
00:27:31,649 --> 00:27:33,818
All right, let's take five.
Gotta learn these words.
543
00:27:33,902 --> 00:27:35,653
544
00:27:35,737 --> 00:27:39,824
545
00:28:00,804 --> 00:28:03,181
Oh, that's all the room
we had on the fence for it.
546
00:28:03,264 --> 00:28:05,058
Lee, how old are you?
547
00:28:05,141 --> 00:28:07,394
I'm 35, Ed.
548
00:28:07,477 --> 00:28:10,522
Well, at 35, looking back
at all that's happened,
549
00:28:10,605 --> 00:28:12,524
what comes to your mind first?
550
00:28:13,817 --> 00:28:18,279
Ed, I would say that God
has been very, very good to us
551
00:28:18,363 --> 00:28:20,949
in making all of this happen
to our family.
552
00:28:21,616 --> 00:28:26,079
And I suppose that nowhere
but in the United States
553
00:28:26,162 --> 00:28:29,249
could this happen to an ordinary
554
00:28:29,332 --> 00:28:31,793
American family like ours.
555
00:28:31,876 --> 00:28:33,420
I'm very grateful.
556
00:28:33,503 --> 00:28:37,173
Well, surely something must get under
your skin once in a while, doesn't it?
557
00:28:37,257 --> 00:28:40,260
Well, about the only thing
that bothers me is
558
00:28:40,343 --> 00:28:42,095
when people accuse me of...
559
00:28:42,178 --> 00:28:46,266
of having a following
only of nice old ladies.
560
00:28:46,349 --> 00:28:48,685
I have nothing
against the nice old ladies,
561
00:28:48,768 --> 00:28:51,396
but I like nice young ladies, too.
562
00:28:51,479 --> 00:28:53,606
-
-Well, Lee,
563
00:28:53,690 --> 00:28:55,692
thanks so much for letting us
come and visit you.
564
00:28:55,775 --> 00:28:58,194
And will you say goodnight
to the rest of your family for us?
565
00:28:58,278 --> 00:29:00,363
-I certainly would.
-Thanks. Thanks a lot.
566
00:29:00,447 --> 00:29:03,408
-Thank you so much. Good night, Ed.
-Good night, Lee.
567
00:29:03,491 --> 00:29:05,994
Next week we'll take you
to Beverly Hills, California,
568
00:29:06,077 --> 00:29:08,621
and the home of Mickey Rooney
and his new bride.
569
00:29:08,705 --> 00:29:11,916
Until then, good night, and good luck.
570
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,002
[John] And we're out.
571
00:29:14,085 --> 00:29:18,381
572
00:29:19,507 --> 00:29:20,759
[cameraman] Good show, Ed.
573
00:29:22,260 --> 00:29:25,096
574
00:29:37,192 --> 00:29:40,069
575
00:29:47,327 --> 00:29:48,495
Mr. Murrow.
576
00:29:50,663 --> 00:29:55,168
Uh, Mr. Murrow, Mr. Paley was wondering
if you'd meet him for a drink.
577
00:29:55,251 --> 00:29:56,628
When?
578
00:29:56,711 --> 00:29:59,339
Uh, now. He's at the Pentathon Bar.
579
00:29:59,422 --> 00:30:00,799
What's he doing there?
580
00:30:00,882 --> 00:30:03,092
Will you just call him, Shirley,
will you, please?
581
00:30:03,176 --> 00:30:04,719
-I'll let him know.
-Thank you.
582
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:09,808
-Hi, Don.
-Hi, Shirley.
583
00:30:11,351 --> 00:30:13,895
Huh.
584
00:30:14,938 --> 00:30:16,648
585
00:30:17,565 --> 00:30:19,651
You're getting good at this, Ed.
586
00:30:19,734 --> 00:30:21,110
They're gonna think you like it.
587
00:30:21,194 --> 00:30:25,073
[chuckles] Pays the bills.
How are you, Don?
588
00:30:25,156 --> 00:30:26,658
It's day to day.
589
00:30:26,741 --> 00:30:29,744
Well, if she saw how good you
look right now, she'd be back.
590
00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:32,247
Tell her that if you see her, will ya?
591
00:30:32,330 --> 00:30:34,541
So I read the O'Brian piece.
592
00:30:34,624 --> 00:30:37,418
Yeah, it's pretty tough.
593
00:30:37,502 --> 00:30:40,755
I'm a pinko. I slant the news.
594
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:43,299
Just waiting for him to say
my wife left me too.
595
00:30:43,383 --> 00:30:45,510
Well, nobody worth their salt reads him.
596
00:30:45,593 --> 00:30:48,805
-You read him.
-Well, see, I rest my case.
597
00:30:48,888 --> 00:30:50,431
598
00:30:50,515 --> 00:30:51,724
Does Paley read him?
599
00:30:53,142 --> 00:30:56,145
Bill Paley's not going
to do anything, Don.
600
00:30:56,229 --> 00:30:58,523
Listen, Ed. Thanks.
601
00:30:58,606 --> 00:31:01,651
I just came over because I wanted to say
how great the lieutenant piece was.
602
00:31:01,734 --> 00:31:03,611
-Thanks.
-How's the fallout?
603
00:31:03,695 --> 00:31:05,697
Mostly good, surprisingly.
604
00:31:05,780 --> 00:31:08,116
Is this the start? Are you taking sides?
605
00:31:08,199 --> 00:31:10,451
It's just a little poke
with a stick, see what happens.
606
00:31:10,535 --> 00:31:12,662
Well, let me know if I can help.
607
00:31:12,745 --> 00:31:15,206
-But you're a pinko, Don.
-I'll see you, Ed.
608
00:31:15,290 --> 00:31:16,916
-Yeah.
-
609
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,419
[announcer] May I have your attention,
please, on track one.
610
00:31:19,502 --> 00:31:22,380
The 8:30 train to New Haven
has been canceled.
611
00:31:22,463 --> 00:31:25,216
We apologize for any inconvenience.
612
00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:31,931
Hey, Joe, what's all this
Radwich junk you're putting out?
613
00:31:32,015 --> 00:31:36,060
Oh, Don, I got nothing to say to you now.
614
00:31:36,144 --> 00:31:38,521
We just gotta get this film
off to the lab.
615
00:31:38,605 --> 00:31:40,064
What would you say if I told you
616
00:31:40,148 --> 00:31:44,110
that Murrow was
on the Soviet payroll in 1934?
617
00:31:48,197 --> 00:31:50,950
Uh, give us a sec, will you, Charlie?
618
00:31:51,034 --> 00:31:53,369
Sure. I gotta use the head anyway.
619
00:31:56,247 --> 00:32:00,126
Hey, Joe, watch yourself
with this guy.
620
00:32:05,924 --> 00:32:09,844
Is, uh, McCarthy going
to the Eisenhower dinner?
621
00:32:09,928 --> 00:32:13,514
No idea. I don't keep
the senator's calendar for him, Joe.
622
00:32:13,598 --> 00:32:15,099
Oh, really?
623
00:32:15,183 --> 00:32:16,935
[announcer] This is a track
change announcement.
624
00:32:17,018 --> 00:32:20,146
The 8:45 Northeast Corridor
train to New York City
625
00:32:20,229 --> 00:32:23,107
will be arriving on track two.
626
00:32:26,152 --> 00:32:28,780
What, you don't watch
any spy films, Donald?
627
00:32:29,614 --> 00:32:31,908
You can't just hand me
a classified folder.
628
00:32:31,991 --> 00:32:35,620
You gotta slip it in my briefcase
when I'm not looking.
629
00:32:35,703 --> 00:32:37,497
It's actually perfect.
I didn't know who to give
630
00:32:37,580 --> 00:32:40,333
this information to, Paley or Murrow.
631
00:32:40,416 --> 00:32:43,753
As you can imagine,
Fred and I aren't very friendly.
632
00:32:43,836 --> 00:32:47,799
-No pun intended.
-No pun elocuted.
633
00:32:47,882 --> 00:32:49,217
634
00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:53,513
Elocuted. Is that a word
or did you just make that up?
635
00:32:53,596 --> 00:32:55,932
You boys and your words.
636
00:32:56,015 --> 00:33:00,353
Is Ed in New York right now
memorizing a thesaurus? Joe.
637
00:33:00,436 --> 00:33:02,981
What's another word for thesaurus?
638
00:33:03,064 --> 00:33:08,444
Oh, it must be awfully quiet
at the Algonquin now that you're gone.
639
00:33:08,528 --> 00:33:10,989
Except for Harpo talking away.
640
00:33:11,072 --> 00:33:13,950
All right, Donald, what do you got?
641
00:33:14,033 --> 00:33:17,161
In short, Ed Murrow's
been a Communist sympathizer
642
00:33:17,245 --> 00:33:18,746
since the 1930s.
643
00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:20,957
Member of the Industrial Workers
of the World,
644
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,335
sponsor of educational trips to Moscow
645
00:33:24,419 --> 00:33:28,840
and on the Soviet payroll
in 1934. It's all there.
646
00:33:31,175 --> 00:33:32,552
Uh, you, uh...
647
00:33:35,013 --> 00:33:37,140
You want to know why that's not possible?
648
00:33:37,223 --> 00:33:40,810
Or why you're gonna lose this one, Donald?
649
00:33:40,893 --> 00:33:43,146
Because everybody in the country knows
650
00:33:43,229 --> 00:33:47,108
that, if nothing else,
Ed Murrow is a loyal American.
651
00:33:47,191 --> 00:33:49,444
-He is a patriot.
-Hmm.
652
00:33:49,527 --> 00:33:53,489
Did you know that the word gullible
isn't in the dictionary, Joe?
653
00:33:53,573 --> 00:33:55,491
-Can I give this to Ed?
-I'd like you to.
654
00:33:55,575 --> 00:33:57,035
I have copies.
655
00:33:58,661 --> 00:34:00,246
I think you guys go too far.
656
00:34:00,329 --> 00:34:04,250
Well, if it walks like a duck
and talks like a duck...
657
00:34:05,710 --> 00:34:07,545
It's a terrible shame.
658
00:34:07,628 --> 00:34:11,007
Murrow's brother being
a general in the air force.
659
00:34:12,091 --> 00:34:13,426
What'd I miss?
660
00:34:15,303 --> 00:34:16,387
Nothing.
661
00:34:17,305 --> 00:34:19,348
Donald was just leaving. He's...
662
00:34:20,308 --> 00:34:22,310
got a hole to crawl back into.
663
00:34:22,393 --> 00:34:25,438
[Don chuckles] Give my best to Ed.
664
00:34:34,197 --> 00:34:35,907
-Bill.
-Hello, Ed.
665
00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:37,950
How's Janet? How's your boy?
666
00:34:38,034 --> 00:34:41,954
-All well, how's babe?
-Fine. She's fine.
667
00:34:42,038 --> 00:34:44,248
Well, her fundraiser got rained on.
668
00:34:44,332 --> 00:34:46,000
Yeah, that's why I don't plan anything.
669
00:34:46,084 --> 00:34:48,795
Really? You wouldn't know it.
670
00:34:48,878 --> 00:34:52,548
-Reading fiction?
-I hope. [laughs] You tell me.
671
00:34:52,632 --> 00:34:54,550
Well, we know
how they're gonna come at us.
672
00:34:54,634 --> 00:34:58,137
That's just the first shot.
Somebody will go down.
673
00:34:58,221 --> 00:34:59,639
Now, have you checked your facts?
674
00:34:59,722 --> 00:35:02,266
-Are you on safe ground?
-It's time. Show our cards.
675
00:35:02,350 --> 00:35:04,227
They're my cards.
676
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:08,272
You lose, what happens?
Five guys find themselves out of work.
677
00:35:09,065 --> 00:35:14,028
I am responsible for a hell of a lot more
than five goddamn reporters.
678
00:35:15,571 --> 00:35:17,281
Let it go.
679
00:35:17,365 --> 00:35:20,076
McCarthy will self-destruct,
Cohn, all of them.
680
00:35:20,159 --> 00:35:21,619
It's not like you to run from a fight.
681
00:35:21,702 --> 00:35:23,287
-I'm not running from anything.
-Is that so?
682
00:35:23,371 --> 00:35:24,789
Hey.
683
00:35:24,872 --> 00:35:26,457
-I write your check.
-Yeah.
684
00:35:26,541 --> 00:35:29,877
I put you in that country house.
I put your son through school.
685
00:35:29,961 --> 00:35:33,089
And you should have told me about this
before it got so far down the road.
686
00:35:33,172 --> 00:35:34,715
Is it an apology that you want?
687
00:35:34,799 --> 00:35:38,177
We don't make the news, Ed.
We report the news.
688
00:35:38,261 --> 00:35:39,846
99% percent of the time
he is wrong
689
00:35:39,929 --> 00:35:41,639
about the people he labels
as being a Communist.
690
00:35:41,722 --> 00:35:43,683
If he goes too far,
the Senate will investigate him,
691
00:35:43,766 --> 00:35:45,268
-and we will report on that.
-But 100% of the time
692
00:35:45,351 --> 00:35:46,936
he is wrong when he steps
on their civil liberties.
693
00:35:47,019 --> 00:35:50,731
What are you doing, Ed?
You are trying him in the press.
694
00:35:50,815 --> 00:35:55,611
No. You have decided on this,
and you're presenting it as fact.
695
00:35:55,695 --> 00:35:56,946
So where do you wanna take this?
696
00:35:58,865 --> 00:35:59,907
697
00:36:03,161 --> 00:36:08,124
Every one of your boys has to be clean.
You understand? No ties.
698
00:36:08,207 --> 00:36:14,130
If Aaron's mother went to a group
theater fundraiser in 1932, he is out.
699
00:36:14,213 --> 00:36:19,635
Hewitt, too. Everyone in that room.
Make no mistake, I will cut them loose.
700
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,681
And Corporate will not interfere
with Editorial.
701
00:36:23,764 --> 00:36:27,143
But Editorial will not jeopardize
702
00:36:27,226 --> 00:36:30,021
the hundreds of employees
of the Columbia Broadcasting System.
703
00:36:30,104 --> 00:36:31,647
-
-Yes?
704
00:36:31,731 --> 00:36:34,442
[secretary] Mr. Paley,
Senator Symington is on the phone.
705
00:36:34,525 --> 00:36:35,651
706
00:36:36,861 --> 00:36:39,197
And we're not advertising it.
707
00:36:41,741 --> 00:36:44,452
Hello, Stu. Right.
708
00:36:44,535 --> 00:36:47,038
Well, yes, Senator, I do have a question.
709
00:36:47,121 --> 00:36:48,623
The US military is said to have
710
00:36:48,706 --> 00:36:51,709
better nuclear capabilities
with much smaller bombs.
711
00:36:51,792 --> 00:36:55,087
But the Soviets have developed
longer-range missiles,
712
00:36:55,171 --> 00:36:57,173
which pits the two powers
against each other
713
00:36:57,256 --> 00:37:00,092
in a race to build the first
intercontinental rocket
714
00:37:00,176 --> 00:37:02,428
capable of delivering a nuclear explosion.
715
00:37:03,387 --> 00:37:05,514
The Soviets believe
they have the upper hand.
716
00:37:05,598 --> 00:37:08,184
But military experts
here at home are confident
717
00:37:08,267 --> 00:37:09,727
the US will win the race
718
00:37:09,810 --> 00:37:11,812
to complete a full
and functioning missile...
719
00:37:11,896 --> 00:37:13,439
[John] Is this about our sponsors?
720
00:37:13,522 --> 00:37:15,483
Are we afraid
of losing our sponsors?
721
00:37:15,566 --> 00:37:16,525
[Palmer] Have we lost sponsors?
722
00:37:16,609 --> 00:37:17,818
-Come on.
-I don't understand...
723
00:37:17,902 --> 00:37:19,570
Fellas, listen... Let me make it easier.
724
00:37:19,654 --> 00:37:22,365
I just need to know,
for the good of the peace,
725
00:37:22,448 --> 00:37:26,077
if any of you have any connection at all.
726
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,039
Read a Communist newsletter.
Traveled to St. Petersburg.
727
00:37:30,122 --> 00:37:33,417
Was your mother dating
a socialist in 1922?
728
00:37:33,501 --> 00:37:36,003
You know what,
why don't you leave my mother out of this?
729
00:37:36,087 --> 00:37:39,340
Don't care. I just need to know.
730
00:37:39,423 --> 00:37:41,759
You know, I had
a fling with a fascist once.
731
00:37:41,842 --> 00:37:43,135
Oh, that must have been fun.
732
00:37:43,219 --> 00:37:45,513
No, not after the war.
They were a little down.
733
00:37:45,596 --> 00:37:46,722
[Fred] Knock it off. Knock it off.
734
00:37:46,806 --> 00:37:50,059
Maybe it was you, Eddie.
It was definitely you, Eddie.
735
00:37:50,142 --> 00:37:51,811
And I think I should excuse myself.
736
00:37:51,894 --> 00:37:53,813
I'm gonna have to excuse myself.
737
00:37:53,896 --> 00:37:55,147
738
00:37:55,231 --> 00:37:58,317
No, really, let me get it out now.
739
00:38:00,403 --> 00:38:03,739
-I don't wanna hurt us.
-Christ. Okay, that kills us.
740
00:38:03,823 --> 00:38:04,740
Oh.
741
00:38:06,534 --> 00:38:08,119
My ex was...
742
00:38:09,245 --> 00:38:12,415
I... [sighs] I wouldn't say
she was a Communist, but...
743
00:38:14,041 --> 00:38:15,751
she certainly attended meetings.
744
00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:19,297
It was before we were married,
745
00:38:20,131 --> 00:38:23,342
and it never came up
until after we were divorced.
746
00:38:24,051 --> 00:38:26,387
It didn't matter then, we were...
747
00:38:27,722 --> 00:38:29,265
We were all on the same side.
748
00:38:30,975 --> 00:38:33,602
Look, I'm not telling you
anything you don't already know.
749
00:38:33,686 --> 00:38:36,063
But the thing of it is,
somebody will find out
750
00:38:36,147 --> 00:38:37,398
and they'll hurt us with it.
751
00:38:37,481 --> 00:38:40,026
Hurt us? We can't do the story.
752
00:38:40,109 --> 00:38:41,235
I should have told you sooner.
753
00:38:42,236 --> 00:38:45,239
[sighs] I'm sorry, Fred. Ed...
754
00:38:47,116 --> 00:38:48,284
755
00:38:50,244 --> 00:38:51,412
Sit down, Palmer.
756
00:38:52,496 --> 00:38:53,497
Sit down.
757
00:38:58,878 --> 00:39:00,296
[chuckles] I...
758
00:39:02,173 --> 00:39:06,177
If none of us ever read a book
that was dangerous
759
00:39:06,260 --> 00:39:08,471
or had a friend that was different,
760
00:39:08,554 --> 00:39:11,057
or joined an organization
that advocated change...
761
00:39:12,016 --> 00:39:15,603
we would all be the exact kind
of person Joe McCarthy wants.
762
00:39:17,980 --> 00:39:19,482
We're gonna go with the story...
763
00:39:20,816 --> 00:39:23,569
because the terror is right here
in this room.
764
00:39:25,446 --> 00:39:27,990
Our next report will be
about the junior senator
765
00:39:28,074 --> 00:39:30,034
from Wisconsin and, Fred,
we use only his words,
766
00:39:30,117 --> 00:39:31,243
you understand?
767
00:39:32,495 --> 00:39:33,871
Okay, fellas, that's it.
768
00:39:33,954 --> 00:39:36,040
All the footage we've banked. Everything.
769
00:39:36,123 --> 00:39:39,293
John, you and Joe and Charlie
go through the HUAC hearings.
770
00:39:39,377 --> 00:39:44,340
Eddie and Palmer, see what else we have.
Any speeches he gave or interviews.
771
00:39:44,423 --> 00:39:47,259
His own words, boys, that's what we need.
772
00:39:47,343 --> 00:39:50,179
Millie, give me those notes.
773
00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:53,891
-[Ella] Yeah.
-
774
00:39:53,974 --> 00:39:56,644
775
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:02,274
♪ There may trouble ahead ♪
776
00:40:02,358 --> 00:40:04,443
♪ But while there's moonlight ♪
777
00:40:04,527 --> 00:40:09,198
♪ And music and love and romance ♪
778
00:40:09,281 --> 00:40:13,869
♪ Let's face the music and dance ♪
779
00:40:13,953 --> 00:40:18,416
♪ Before the fiddlers have fled ♪
780
00:40:18,499 --> 00:40:22,670
♪ Before they ask us to pay the bill ♪
781
00:40:22,753 --> 00:40:27,466
♪ And while we still got a chance ♪
782
00:40:27,550 --> 00:40:32,012
♪ Let's face the music and dance ♪
783
00:40:32,096 --> 00:40:35,975
♪ Soon, we'll be without the moon ♪
784
00:40:36,058 --> 00:40:41,397
♪ Humming a different tune and then ♪
785
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,943
♪ There may be teardrops to shed ♪
786
00:40:46,026 --> 00:40:49,196
♪ But while there's moonlight and music ♪
787
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,700
♪ And love and romance ♪
788
00:40:52,783 --> 00:40:57,788
♪ Let's face the music and dance ♪
789
00:40:57,872 --> 00:41:01,584
♪ Let's face the music ♪
790
00:41:01,667 --> 00:41:06,046
♪ And dance ♪
791
00:41:07,465 --> 00:41:09,383
792
00:41:09,467 --> 00:41:11,218
[Hewitt] Two minutes to air.
793
00:41:11,302 --> 00:41:13,721
-Are we gonna make it?
-We lost a projector.
794
00:41:14,805 --> 00:41:16,098
Yeah, we'll make it.
795
00:41:16,182 --> 00:41:19,351
Excuse me, Mr. Murrow.
Uh, Mr. Paley's on the line.
796
00:41:20,519 --> 00:41:23,689
Maybe he's gonna reimburse us for the ads.
797
00:41:23,772 --> 00:41:25,483
-You'd like that.
-[Fred] I would like that.
798
00:41:25,566 --> 00:41:26,942
799
00:41:29,028 --> 00:41:30,196
This is Ed.
800
00:41:30,279 --> 00:41:32,990
Hey, the Knickerbockers
are playing tonight
801
00:41:33,073 --> 00:41:35,743
and I got front row seats.
Are you interested?
802
00:41:36,368 --> 00:41:39,038
I'm a little busy bringing down
the network tonight, Bill.
803
00:41:39,121 --> 00:41:40,748
804
00:41:40,831 --> 00:41:42,917
Oh, is that tonight?
805
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,211
-The Knickerbockers you said.
-[Bill] Front row.
806
00:41:45,294 --> 00:41:46,545
It's tempting.
807
00:41:48,297 --> 00:41:50,716
So you know, we're covered.
808
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:52,510
All right.
809
00:41:54,803 --> 00:41:56,597
I'm with you tonight, Ed.
810
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,183
And I'll be with you
in the morning as well.
811
00:42:00,726 --> 00:42:01,810
Thanks, Bill.
812
00:42:04,021 --> 00:42:05,356
[Shirley] What do you think, Joe?
813
00:42:06,273 --> 00:42:09,193
I think we're ready.
814
00:42:09,276 --> 00:42:11,695
I wish we could wait
till we get more footage.
815
00:42:11,779 --> 00:42:13,405
I just don't think we can take the chance.
816
00:42:13,489 --> 00:42:18,035
I think that we have to hit McCarthy
before he can come after Ed.
817
00:42:18,118 --> 00:42:21,914
Well, they haven't gone
after The Alsops or Herb Block.
818
00:42:21,997 --> 00:42:25,501
Yeah. [chuckles] The Alsops
and Herb Block didn't work
819
00:42:25,584 --> 00:42:29,004
for the Institute of
International Education in 1934.
820
00:42:30,339 --> 00:42:32,758
Then I guess it's time.
821
00:42:32,841 --> 00:42:34,927
-Okay.
-[Shirley] Hi.
822
00:42:35,010 --> 00:42:36,512
-Hi.
-Hi.
823
00:42:36,595 --> 00:42:37,513
[Shirley] Bye.
824
00:42:37,596 --> 00:42:39,265
-Bye.
-Bye.
825
00:42:43,686 --> 00:42:44,728
You worried?
826
00:42:45,813 --> 00:42:47,731
I didn't think I was. Uh...
827
00:42:47,815 --> 00:42:50,526
I... I don't know why.
I was in the office on Friday.
828
00:42:50,609 --> 00:42:51,944
I answered the phone.
829
00:42:52,027 --> 00:42:54,363
It was Howard calling from London.
830
00:42:54,446 --> 00:42:56,282
He asked me
what was going on with McCarthy
831
00:42:56,365 --> 00:42:58,909
and before I answered him I turned
832
00:42:58,993 --> 00:43:01,912
and looked over my shoulder
to see who was listening.
833
00:43:02,788 --> 00:43:04,415
And who was listening?
834
00:43:05,666 --> 00:43:08,043
-Chairman Mao.
-
835
00:43:08,127 --> 00:43:12,339
-Ah, Joe, your ring.
-Jesus Christ.
836
00:43:12,423 --> 00:43:14,592
Name me another wife
who reminds her husband
837
00:43:14,675 --> 00:43:17,761
to take off his wedding ring
before he goes to the office.
838
00:43:18,762 --> 00:43:19,847
-Ava Gardner.
-
839
00:43:19,930 --> 00:43:21,307
[Hewitt] Thirty seconds.
840
00:43:24,852 --> 00:43:26,604
841
00:43:29,064 --> 00:43:30,441
[clears throat] Beautiful.
842
00:43:38,115 --> 00:43:39,658
[Hewitt] Twenty seconds.
843
00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:50,753
[Hewitt] Ten seconds.
844
00:43:54,965 --> 00:43:59,136
[Hewitt] In five, four, three, two.
845
00:44:01,055 --> 00:44:02,389
Good evening.
846
00:44:02,473 --> 00:44:04,975
Because a report
on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy
847
00:44:05,059 --> 00:44:07,603
is by definition controversial,
we wanna say
848
00:44:07,686 --> 00:44:10,439
exactly what we mean
and request permission to read
849
00:44:10,522 --> 00:44:14,735
from a script any remarks
Murrow and Friendly may make.
850
00:44:14,818 --> 00:44:16,654
If the senator feels
that we have done violence
851
00:44:16,737 --> 00:44:19,406
to his words or pictures
and he wishes to speak
852
00:44:19,490 --> 00:44:20,658
to answer himself,
853
00:44:20,741 --> 00:44:24,203
an opportunity will be afforded him
on this program.
854
00:44:24,286 --> 00:44:27,164
Our working thesis tonight
is from this quotation,
855
00:44:27,247 --> 00:44:29,750
"If this fight against
Communism has made a fight
856
00:44:29,833 --> 00:44:32,711
between America's
two great political parties,
857
00:44:32,795 --> 00:44:34,797
the American people
know that one of those parties
858
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,174
will be destroyed
and the Republic cannot endure
859
00:44:37,257 --> 00:44:39,176
very long as a one-party system."
860
00:44:39,259 --> 00:44:40,469
We applaud that statement.
861
00:44:40,552 --> 00:44:45,391
We think Senator McCarthy should as well.
He said it 17 months ago in Milwaukee.
862
00:44:46,517 --> 00:44:49,853
The American people realize
that this cannot be made a fight
863
00:44:49,937 --> 00:44:52,648
between America's
two great political parties.
864
00:44:52,731 --> 00:44:55,025
If the fight against Communism
is made a fight
865
00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:57,236
between America's
two great political parties,
866
00:44:57,319 --> 00:44:59,571
the American people know
that one of those parties
867
00:44:59,655 --> 00:45:02,950
will be destroyed
and the Republic can't endure
868
00:45:03,033 --> 00:45:04,910
very long as a one-party system.
869
00:45:04,993 --> 00:45:08,247
On one thing the senator
has been consistent.
870
00:45:08,330 --> 00:45:12,584
Often acting as a one-man committee,
he has traveled far, interviewed many,
871
00:45:12,668 --> 00:45:16,338
terrorized some,
accused civilian and military leaders
872
00:45:16,422 --> 00:45:18,590
of the past administration
of a great conspiracy
873
00:45:18,674 --> 00:45:21,301
to hand over the country to Communism.
874
00:45:21,385 --> 00:45:23,470
Well, may I say
that I was extremely shocked
875
00:45:23,554 --> 00:45:26,515
when I heard that Secretary Stevens
876
00:45:26,598 --> 00:45:30,310
told two Army officers
that they had to take part
877
00:45:30,394 --> 00:45:34,148
in the cover-up of those who promoted
and coddled Communists.
878
00:45:34,231 --> 00:45:39,736
As I read each statement, I, uh...
thought of that quotation,
879
00:45:39,820 --> 00:45:45,033
"On what meat doth this our Caesar feed?"
880
00:45:45,117 --> 00:45:47,661
And upon what meat
does Senator McCarthy feed?
881
00:45:47,744 --> 00:45:50,831
Two of the staples of his diet
are the investigations
882
00:45:50,914 --> 00:45:54,460
protected by immunity and half-truths.
883
00:45:54,543 --> 00:45:56,795
You... You attended Columbia University
884
00:45:56,879 --> 00:45:59,214
-in the early '30s?
-[Harris] I did, Mr. Chairman.
885
00:45:59,298 --> 00:46:00,757
Will you speak a little louder, sir?
886
00:46:00,841 --> 00:46:02,634
[Harris] I did, Mr. Chairman.
887
00:46:02,718 --> 00:46:06,388
And were you expelled from Columbia?
888
00:46:07,806 --> 00:46:11,852
[Harris] I was suspended from
classes on April 1st, 1932.
889
00:46:11,935 --> 00:46:16,899
I was later reinstated.
And I resigned from the university.
890
00:46:16,982 --> 00:46:19,234
[McCarthy] And you resigned
from the university.
891
00:46:19,318 --> 00:46:20,527
Uh...
892
00:46:21,445 --> 00:46:25,073
Did the Civil Liberties Union
provide you with an attorney
893
00:46:25,157 --> 00:46:26,950
at that time?
894
00:46:27,034 --> 00:46:29,286
[Harris] I had many offers
of attorneys, and one of those
895
00:46:29,369 --> 00:46:31,914
was from the American Civil
Liberties Union. Yes.
896
00:46:31,997 --> 00:46:33,999
The question is,
did the Civil Liberties Union
897
00:46:34,082 --> 00:46:35,459
supply you with an attorney?
898
00:46:35,542 --> 00:46:37,085
[Harris] They did supply an attorney.
899
00:46:37,169 --> 00:46:39,546
-The answer is yes.
-[Harris] The answer is yes.
900
00:46:39,630 --> 00:46:41,381
Uh, you know the Civil Liberties Union
901
00:46:41,465 --> 00:46:44,176
has been listed as a front for,
and doing the work of,
902
00:46:44,259 --> 00:46:45,677
the Communist Party.
903
00:46:46,845 --> 00:46:49,973
[Harris] Mr. Chairman, this was 1932.
904
00:46:50,057 --> 00:46:51,558
[McCarthy] Yeah, I know this was 1932.
905
00:46:51,642 --> 00:46:53,936
Do you know that they
since have been listed
906
00:46:54,019 --> 00:46:56,313
as a front for, and doing the work of,
the Communist Party?
907
00:46:56,396 --> 00:46:57,981
[Harris] I do not know
that they have been listed.
908
00:46:58,065 --> 00:46:59,066
So, sir, no, I do not.
909
00:46:59,149 --> 00:47:01,151
-You don't know they have been listed?
-I have heard that mentioned...
910
00:47:01,235 --> 00:47:02,986
or read that mentioned.
911
00:47:03,070 --> 00:47:07,574
Now, you wrote a book in 1932.
I'm going to ask you again.
912
00:47:07,658 --> 00:47:09,368
At the time you wrote this book,
913
00:47:09,451 --> 00:47:14,164
did you feel that professors
should be given the right
914
00:47:14,248 --> 00:47:16,708
to teach sophomores that marriage...
915
00:47:17,501 --> 00:47:21,672
uh, let me quote... "should be
cast out of our civilization
916
00:47:21,755 --> 00:47:25,801
as antiquated and stupid
religious phenomena?"
917
00:47:25,884 --> 00:47:27,719
Was that your feeling at that time?
918
00:47:27,803 --> 00:47:31,348
[Harris] My feeling was that professors
should have the right to express
919
00:47:31,431 --> 00:47:34,726
their considered opinions on any subject,
whatever they were, sir.
920
00:47:34,810 --> 00:47:36,562
[McCarthy] I'm going to make you
answer this.
921
00:47:36,645 --> 00:47:40,399
I'll answer yes. But you put
an implication on it.
922
00:47:40,482 --> 00:47:42,901
And you feature this particular
point out of a book,
923
00:47:42,985 --> 00:47:44,820
which, of course is quite out of context,
924
00:47:44,903 --> 00:47:48,240
does not give a proper impression
of the book as a whole.
925
00:47:48,323 --> 00:47:50,242
The American public doesn't
get an honest impression
926
00:47:50,325 --> 00:47:51,994
of even that book, bad as it is...
927
00:47:52,077 --> 00:47:54,997
[Hewitt] Back in five, four, three, two...
928
00:47:55,581 --> 00:47:59,501
The Reed Harris hearing illustrates
one of the senator's techniques.
929
00:47:59,585 --> 00:48:02,170
Twice he said the American
Civil Liberties Union was listed
930
00:48:02,254 --> 00:48:04,047
as a subversive front.
931
00:48:04,131 --> 00:48:06,258
The Attorney General's list
does not and never has
932
00:48:06,341 --> 00:48:08,510
listed the ACLU as subversive,
933
00:48:08,594 --> 00:48:12,264
nor has the FBI or any other
federal government agency.
934
00:48:12,347 --> 00:48:14,808
And the ACLU holds in its files
935
00:48:14,891 --> 00:48:16,977
letters of commendation
from President Truman,
936
00:48:17,060 --> 00:48:20,439
President Eisenhower,
and General MacArthur.
937
00:48:20,522 --> 00:48:22,065
Earlier, the senator asked,
938
00:48:22,149 --> 00:48:25,611
"Upon what meat
does this our Caesar feed?"
939
00:48:25,694 --> 00:48:27,070
Had he looked three lines earlier
940
00:48:27,154 --> 00:48:29,656
in Shakespeare's Caesar,
he would have found this line,
941
00:48:29,740 --> 00:48:31,783
which is not altogether inappropriate,
942
00:48:31,867 --> 00:48:37,164
"The fault, dear Brutus,
is not in our stars, but in ourselves."
943
00:48:37,247 --> 00:48:39,916
No one familiar with the history
of this country can deny
944
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,085
that congressional committees are useful.
945
00:48:42,169 --> 00:48:45,797
It is necessary to investigate
before legislating,
946
00:48:45,881 --> 00:48:49,301
but the line between investigating
and persecuting is a very fine one.
947
00:48:49,384 --> 00:48:53,930
And the junior senator from Wisconsin
has stepped over it repeatedly.
948
00:48:54,014 --> 00:48:56,808
We must not confuse
dissent with disloyalty.
949
00:48:56,892 --> 00:48:59,686
We must remember always
that accusation is not proof,
950
00:48:59,770 --> 00:49:03,398
and that conviction depends upon evidence
and due process of law.
951
00:49:03,482 --> 00:49:06,068
We will not walk in fear, one of another.
952
00:49:06,151 --> 00:49:08,945
We will not be driven
by fear into an age of unreason,
953
00:49:09,029 --> 00:49:11,281
if we dig deep
in our history and our doctrine,
954
00:49:11,365 --> 00:49:14,076
and remember that we are not
descended from fearful men,
955
00:49:14,159 --> 00:49:17,496
not from men who fear to write,
to speak, to associate,
956
00:49:17,579 --> 00:49:19,289
or to defend the causes that are,
957
00:49:19,373 --> 00:49:21,333
for the moment, unpopular.
958
00:49:21,416 --> 00:49:24,795
We proclaim ourselves as indeed
we are the defenders of freedom,
959
00:49:24,878 --> 00:49:27,172
wherever it continues
to exist in the world,
960
00:49:27,255 --> 00:49:31,551
but we cannot defend freedom
abroad by deserting it at home.
961
00:49:31,635 --> 00:49:34,304
The actions of
the junior senator from Wisconsin
962
00:49:34,388 --> 00:49:37,766
have caused alarm and dismay
amongst our allies abroad,
963
00:49:37,849 --> 00:49:41,144
and given considerable comfort
to our enemies.
964
00:49:41,228 --> 00:49:43,105
And whose fault is that?
965
00:49:43,188 --> 00:49:44,690
Not really his.
966
00:49:44,773 --> 00:49:47,442
He didn't create this situation of fear.
967
00:49:47,526 --> 00:49:51,905
He merely exploited it,
and rather successfully.
968
00:49:51,988 --> 00:49:54,074
Cassius was right.
969
00:49:54,157 --> 00:49:57,369
"The fault, dear Brutus,
is not in our stars,
970
00:49:57,452 --> 00:50:01,206
but in ourselves."
Good night, and good luck.
971
00:50:01,289 --> 00:50:04,292
972
00:50:07,754 --> 00:50:08,880
[Hewitt] And we're out.
973
00:50:13,427 --> 00:50:15,011
[Hollenbeck] Good evening.
974
00:50:15,804 --> 00:50:18,390
I don't know whether all of you
have seen what I just saw,
975
00:50:18,473 --> 00:50:20,475
but I want to associate myself
and this program
976
00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:22,018
with what Ed Murrow has just said
977
00:50:22,102 --> 00:50:25,272
and say that I've never been
prouder of CBS.
978
00:50:26,106 --> 00:50:27,190
And now the news...
979
00:50:27,274 --> 00:50:28,567
Feel like a scotch?
980
00:50:28,650 --> 00:50:30,152
I think everybody could use one.
981
00:50:30,235 --> 00:50:31,236
[Ed] Yep.
982
00:50:31,319 --> 00:50:33,155
[Hollenbeck] Women have moved
into another male domain.
983
00:50:33,238 --> 00:50:35,115
In 20 United States cities
984
00:50:35,198 --> 00:50:36,950
they've proved themselves
highly efficient
985
00:50:37,033 --> 00:50:38,869
in parking and traffic control.
986
00:50:38,952 --> 00:50:40,662
987
00:50:40,746 --> 00:50:42,456
988
00:51:11,193 --> 00:51:13,153
[Ed] Fritz, what time is it?
989
00:51:13,236 --> 00:51:17,824
Uh... 3:30. Early editions are out now.
990
00:51:17,908 --> 00:51:19,534
[Ed] Oh, I'm not worried about that.
991
00:51:19,618 --> 00:51:21,536
[chuckles] No, of course not.
992
00:51:21,620 --> 00:51:25,207
Hey, Shirl, honey, run down
and pick up the early edition.
993
00:51:25,290 --> 00:51:26,541
-[Shirley] All of them?
-All of them.
994
00:51:26,625 --> 00:51:28,126
-Just get O'Brian.
-
995
00:51:28,210 --> 00:51:30,462
-
-[Shirley] All right. Uh... Watch my drink.
996
00:51:30,545 --> 00:51:32,339
Yeah, I'll go with you, Shirley.
997
00:51:35,509 --> 00:51:37,677
998
00:51:37,761 --> 00:51:39,971
I'm gonna have to fire Joe
so those two can date.
999
00:51:40,055 --> 00:51:42,140
-Cigarette?
-I quit.
1000
00:51:42,224 --> 00:51:44,142
Good time to quit.
1001
00:51:44,226 --> 00:51:45,560
Yeah, but what could you do?
1002
00:51:45,644 --> 00:51:48,230
Well, first we want to see
if we have jobs tomorrow.
1003
00:51:48,313 --> 00:51:49,981
And if we still have jobs tomorrow,
1004
00:51:50,065 --> 00:51:53,151
then, uh, Tail Gunner Joe
gets to return fire.
1005
00:51:53,235 --> 00:51:54,402
What's he gonna say?
1006
00:51:54,486 --> 00:51:57,572
Uh, he's gonna say
we're, uh, a pinko organization
1007
00:51:57,656 --> 00:52:00,325
-with a leftist agenda.
-We used his own words.
1008
00:52:00,408 --> 00:52:01,701
It's, uh...
1009
00:52:02,661 --> 00:52:05,038
Well, we do have a leftist agenda.
1010
00:52:05,956 --> 00:52:07,874
I'm a pinko.
1011
00:52:07,958 --> 00:52:09,543
1012
00:52:09,626 --> 00:52:11,253
A little too loud there, Charlie.
1013
00:52:11,336 --> 00:52:12,712
1014
00:52:12,796 --> 00:52:14,631
It's got awfully quiet there, didn't it?
1015
00:52:14,714 --> 00:52:16,633
We've got Annie Lee Moss.
1016
00:52:16,716 --> 00:52:19,553
We can have that together
by next week if need be.
1017
00:52:19,636 --> 00:52:22,013
-Is that a whole show?
-It's close.
1018
00:52:22,097 --> 00:52:24,224
-Listen, Ed.
-
1019
00:52:24,307 --> 00:52:27,060
There's not gonna be
a shortage of material on him.
1020
00:52:27,143 --> 00:52:29,396
What we have to do now
is keep up the pressure
1021
00:52:29,479 --> 00:52:31,565
till his rebuttal...
1022
00:52:31,648 --> 00:52:33,316
and then move to Calcutta.
1023
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,360
1024
00:52:35,443 --> 00:52:39,447
-Sure do miss radio.
-You've got a face for radio.
1025
00:52:40,866 --> 00:52:42,325
That's what my wife keeps telling me.
1026
00:52:42,409 --> 00:52:44,870
[Shirley] All right, here we go.
We've got all of them.
1027
00:52:44,953 --> 00:52:46,705
Um, The Post, The Times.
1028
00:52:46,788 --> 00:52:48,206
-Who wrote it?
-[Shirley] Jack Gould.
1029
00:52:48,290 --> 00:52:49,583
1030
00:52:49,666 --> 00:52:52,836
"Edward R. Murrow's television program
1031
00:52:52,919 --> 00:52:57,257
on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy
was an exciting and provocative
1032
00:52:57,340 --> 00:53:00,176
examination of the man and his methods.
1033
00:53:00,260 --> 00:53:05,473
It was crusading journalism
of high responsibility and courage.
1034
00:53:05,557 --> 00:53:09,436
For TV so often plagued
by timidity and hesitation,
1035
00:53:09,519 --> 00:53:12,898
the program was a milestone that reflected
enlightened citizenship."
1036
00:53:12,981 --> 00:53:14,566
Okay. He didn't like it.
1037
00:53:14,649 --> 00:53:16,651
[Eddie] Yeah, what's this guy's beef, huh?
1038
00:53:16,735 --> 00:53:18,945
[Shirley] Wait. Hold on. Hold on.
1039
00:53:19,029 --> 00:53:21,740
"The program was no less
an indictment of those who wish
1040
00:53:21,823 --> 00:53:24,200
the problems posed
by the senator's tactics
1041
00:53:24,284 --> 00:53:28,288
and theatrics would just
go away and leave them alone.
1042
00:53:28,371 --> 00:53:30,332
That was Mr. Murrow's
and television's triumph,
1043
00:53:30,415 --> 00:53:31,541
and a very great one."
1044
00:53:31,625 --> 00:53:33,501
-Hear, hear!
-
1045
00:53:33,585 --> 00:53:36,046
Fritz, send The New York Times
a bottle of scotch.
1046
00:53:36,129 --> 00:53:38,632
I already did. How do you think
we got that review?
1047
00:53:38,715 --> 00:53:40,717
1048
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,177
-[Palmer] What about The Post?
-[Ed] Hmm.
1049
00:53:42,260 --> 00:53:44,012
-[Joe] It's pretty good.
-[staff] Yeah. Yeah.
1050
00:53:44,095 --> 00:53:46,514
-What about O'Brian?
-[Shirley] The same.
1051
00:53:46,598 --> 00:53:49,476
-
-Shirley, what did O'Brian say?
1052
00:53:50,310 --> 00:53:52,604
Oh, I don't have it.
Um, Joe, what about you?
1053
00:53:52,687 --> 00:53:55,065
Uh... I... No, it's here somewhere.
1054
00:53:56,524 --> 00:53:58,443
[Shirley] Okay, um...
1055
00:53:59,986 --> 00:54:03,615
Hang on. I... Okay.
[clears throat] Jack O'Brian.
1056
00:54:05,033 --> 00:54:07,744
"We can't say we were surprised
at Edward R. Murrow's
1057
00:54:07,827 --> 00:54:10,914
hate-McCarthy telecast last evening
1058
00:54:10,997 --> 00:54:16,670
when his explosively one-sided propaganda,
edited with deviously clever selectivity
1059
00:54:16,753 --> 00:54:20,924
for McCarthy's march against Communism,
was finished last evening.
1060
00:54:21,007 --> 00:54:23,134
By equally Machiavellian coincidence,
1061
00:54:23,218 --> 00:54:27,514
the following telecast featured
Murrow's PM protégé, Don Hollenbeck."
1062
00:54:27,597 --> 00:54:29,140
-
-What?
1063
00:54:29,224 --> 00:54:32,310
"Uh, in an obviously
gloating mood, Hollenbeck hoped
1064
00:54:32,394 --> 00:54:35,605
viewers had witnessed his patron's triumph
from and for the left."
1065
00:54:36,481 --> 00:54:38,024
Uh, and so on and so on.
1066
00:54:38,108 --> 00:54:40,652
Yeah, I guess O'Brian doesn't like scotch.
1067
00:54:41,319 --> 00:54:45,115
-It's okay, Shirley. Finish it.
-Shirley, read The Post, huh?
1068
00:54:45,198 --> 00:54:48,702
-That's it, Don. It's just--
-Shirley, finish it.
1069
00:54:48,785 --> 00:54:50,495
-[Shirley] That's it, Don.
-[Joe] Don, that's it.
1070
00:54:50,578 --> 00:54:51,830
Shirley.
1071
00:54:54,499 --> 00:54:55,542
Okay.
1072
00:54:55,625 --> 00:54:57,085
1073
00:54:57,168 --> 00:54:58,670
"The Columbia Broadcasting System
1074
00:54:58,753 --> 00:55:01,506
has been in a lengthy
clean-house of lefties mood.
1075
00:55:01,589 --> 00:55:03,174
The worst offenders on lesser levels
1076
00:55:03,258 --> 00:55:05,677
have been quietly
pushed out of the company.
1077
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,097
Don Hollenbeck, a graduate
of the demised pinko publication
1078
00:55:09,180 --> 00:55:13,977
'PM,' attacked conservative newspapers
with sly and slanted propaganda.
1079
00:55:14,060 --> 00:55:16,354
He then proceeded through
an equally tilted review
1080
00:55:16,438 --> 00:55:18,314
of the day's events,
with McCarthy dominating
1081
00:55:18,398 --> 00:55:20,942
his words, actions, attitude and camera..."
1082
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:23,778
[sighs] It's O'Brian.
1083
00:55:25,071 --> 00:55:26,448
I think I'll have that cigarette, Ed.
1084
00:55:26,531 --> 00:55:27,532
-
-Yep.
1085
00:55:29,117 --> 00:55:31,411
{\an8}-[Fred] I'm heading out.
-Yeah.
1086
00:55:31,494 --> 00:55:33,913
{\an8}Got a staff meeting in five hours.
1087
00:55:33,997 --> 00:55:36,916
{\an8}[Joe] Whoa! Whoa, it is late.
1088
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,376
[Fred] Hmm.
1089
00:55:38,460 --> 00:55:40,587
Do you... Do you wanna share a cab?
1090
00:55:40,670 --> 00:55:41,880
Oh, uh, yeah.
1091
00:55:41,963 --> 00:55:43,256
-You headed downtown?
-Yes.
1092
00:55:43,339 --> 00:55:44,883
But where do you live, Shirley?
1093
00:55:44,966 --> 00:55:47,385
-Oh, she lives downtown.
-Yes.
1094
00:55:48,678 --> 00:55:49,888
Hang in there, Don.
1095
00:55:49,971 --> 00:55:51,181
[Hollenbeck] See ya, boys.
1096
00:55:51,264 --> 00:55:54,350
-[Charlie] See ya.
-[Palmer] See ya, Ed, Don.
1097
00:55:54,434 --> 00:55:56,728
-I appreciate it.
-[Joe] Big day tomorrow.
1098
00:55:56,811 --> 00:55:58,855
Yeah. Today, you mean, huh?
1099
00:55:58,938 --> 00:56:00,023
[staff] We're drinking. We're drinking?
1100
00:56:00,106 --> 00:56:01,608
1101
00:56:04,027 --> 00:56:06,279
Sorry I missed you the other night, Don.
1102
00:56:09,657 --> 00:56:11,576
I need to ask you something, Ed.
1103
00:56:12,410 --> 00:56:13,578
It's about O'Brian.
1104
00:56:13,661 --> 00:56:14,829
-O'Brian doesn't matter.
-He's killing me.
1105
00:56:14,913 --> 00:56:16,247
He doesn't make
a bit of difference in the news.
1106
00:56:16,331 --> 00:56:18,291
It's not just him.
We have to let this guy have it.
1107
00:56:18,374 --> 00:56:20,126
We're not gonna go after O'Brian.
1108
00:56:20,210 --> 00:56:22,712
I'm not gonna take on McCarthy and Hearst.
1109
00:56:22,796 --> 00:56:26,341
I can't beat them both.
Don't read the paper, Don.
1110
00:56:26,424 --> 00:56:28,093
Or don't read O'Brian, anyway.
1111
00:56:33,932 --> 00:56:35,975
No.
1112
00:56:36,059 --> 00:56:37,519
No. I guess not.
1113
00:56:40,855 --> 00:56:41,898
1114
00:56:53,284 --> 00:56:54,285
1115
00:56:57,831 --> 00:56:59,165
I wake up in the morning...
1116
00:57:00,917 --> 00:57:03,336
and I don't recognize anything.
1117
00:57:05,130 --> 00:57:07,549
I feel like I went to sleep
three years ago
1118
00:57:07,632 --> 00:57:09,884
and somebody hijacked the...
1119
00:57:11,010 --> 00:57:13,638
As if all the reasonable people
took a plane to Europe
1120
00:57:13,721 --> 00:57:15,390
-and left us behind.
-
1121
00:57:18,184 --> 00:57:19,436
1122
00:57:20,895 --> 00:57:24,816
1123
00:57:26,192 --> 00:57:27,527
1124
00:57:28,486 --> 00:57:29,779
Huh?
1125
00:57:33,158 --> 00:57:34,868
-Uh, I was always...
-
1126
00:57:37,704 --> 00:57:42,750
I was always an optimist. Really.
I always thought things work out.
1127
00:57:43,501 --> 00:57:44,627
Half full.
1128
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:47,922
Yeah.
1129
00:57:50,175 --> 00:57:52,760
I believe in the system, Don.
1130
00:57:53,761 --> 00:57:57,098
As disastrous as it can seem
at times, I believe in it.
1131
00:57:58,057 --> 00:58:00,185
We designed it to fix it.
1132
00:58:01,186 --> 00:58:05,815
Madison built it into the Constitution,
for Christ's sake. It's a...
1133
00:58:05,899 --> 00:58:07,442
I was talking about my divorce.
1134
00:58:09,444 --> 00:58:10,487
So was I.
1135
00:58:11,779 --> 00:58:13,573
1136
00:58:13,656 --> 00:58:17,368
Well, I'm glad the forefathers understood
the term "dissolution of a union."
1137
00:58:17,452 --> 00:58:21,372
[chuckles] Sure, they had
their difficulties with the opposite sex.
1138
00:58:21,456 --> 00:58:23,833
I'm talking about McCarthy.
1139
00:58:23,917 --> 00:58:25,585
So was I.
1140
00:58:30,548 --> 00:58:32,217
Well, I thought I'd try.
1141
00:58:34,302 --> 00:58:35,678
Sorry, Don.
1142
00:58:37,430 --> 00:58:39,891
We never had this conversation, okay?
1143
00:58:40,934 --> 00:58:42,352
If it's okay with you, Senator.
1144
00:58:42,435 --> 00:58:43,937
1145
00:58:44,020 --> 00:58:45,563
Don't laugh. I've thought about it.
1146
00:59:06,918 --> 00:59:09,337
-
-[announcer] From Studio 41
1147
00:59:09,420 --> 00:59:10,922
in Grand Central Station, New York City...
1148
00:59:11,005 --> 00:59:12,340
-
-...The Morning Show.
1149
00:59:12,423 --> 00:59:14,092
{\an8}-How long for that new copy?
-Just give me an hour.
1150
00:59:14,175 --> 00:59:15,677
{\an8}Uh, it's gonna need an hour.
1151
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,304
-You've been here all night?
-Yeah. We got a deadline.
1152
00:59:18,388 --> 00:59:20,640
-Yeah...
-We just got back from D.C.
1153
00:59:20,723 --> 00:59:24,227
McClellan just took an axe to McCarthy
at the Pentagon Hearing.
1154
00:59:24,310 --> 00:59:26,437
-[Charlie] He called McCarthy evil.
-[Palmer] Wait, who did?
1155
00:59:26,521 --> 00:59:28,731
Senator McClellan, sitting two seats
down from McCarthy...
1156
00:59:28,815 --> 00:59:30,191
I've gotta get this to the land.
1157
00:59:30,275 --> 00:59:32,402
...gets up, calls him evil.
1158
00:59:32,485 --> 00:59:34,279
-Wait, who's evil?
-Did you get it on camera?
1159
00:59:34,362 --> 00:59:36,990
-Yeah, I think we did.
-Wait, who is evil?
1160
00:59:37,073 --> 00:59:39,409
-Oh, Eddie...
-I can hear you.
1161
00:59:39,492 --> 00:59:40,618
{\an8}
1162
00:59:40,702 --> 00:59:41,786
{\an8}What are they doing there?
1163
00:59:41,869 --> 00:59:43,663
{\an8}Uh, rewriting the Constitution.
1164
00:59:43,746 --> 00:59:46,082
{\an8}They were there for the original.
1165
00:59:46,165 --> 00:59:49,002
{\an8}Uh, hold on, Joe.
Palmer, can I talk to you for a minute?
1166
00:59:49,085 --> 00:59:51,170
{\an8}-[Palmer] Yeah. Sure, Fred.
-[Fred] Uh, just a second one.
1167
00:59:51,254 --> 00:59:52,672
{\an8}-Fred.
-[Fred] Yeah?
1168
00:59:52,755 --> 00:59:56,551
{\an8}Uh, fellas, uh,
McCarthy's office just called.
1169
00:59:56,634 --> 00:59:58,928
-He wants equal time.
-When?
1170
00:59:59,012 --> 01:00:01,055
-April 6th.
-In studio?
1171
01:00:01,139 --> 01:00:02,640
He wants to film it in his office.
1172
01:00:02,724 --> 01:00:03,850
Who?
1173
01:00:03,933 --> 01:00:05,643
McCarthy.
1174
01:00:05,727 --> 01:00:07,395
[Palmer] Jesus Christ.
1175
01:00:07,478 --> 01:00:09,731
They... They told me
Buckley wanted to respond.
1176
01:00:09,814 --> 01:00:11,858
No. Uh...
1177
01:00:11,941 --> 01:00:13,026
It's McCarthy.
1178
01:00:13,109 --> 01:00:15,236
Yeah, but are they gonna
let Charlie shoot it?
1179
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:16,529
What's he gonna say?
1180
01:00:16,613 --> 01:00:17,947
1181
01:00:18,781 --> 01:00:20,199
I know what it's gonna be.
1182
01:00:20,283 --> 01:00:23,036
He's gonna come after me.
It's the only thing he can do.
1183
01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:25,622
He's gonna bet that a Senator
trumps a newsman.
1184
01:00:25,705 --> 01:00:27,707
-Ha. He'll lose.
-
1185
01:00:29,250 --> 01:00:30,251
Maybe.
1186
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,546
[sighs] Okay, fellas, here we go.
1187
01:00:33,630 --> 01:00:35,089
Joe, call Stanton and let him know.
1188
01:00:35,173 --> 01:00:36,758
-You got it.
-John, uh, let's see
1189
01:00:36,841 --> 01:00:38,676
all the Eisenhower footage you've got.
1190
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:39,969
We'll need to prep for his spots.
1191
01:00:40,053 --> 01:00:42,430
-Okay, Fred. Yup.
-Um, Palmer.
1192
01:00:42,513 --> 01:00:45,391
Phil in Legal wants
to have a word with you.
1193
01:00:47,143 --> 01:00:51,397
-Okay. Now?
-Uh, yes, now is best.
1194
01:00:52,231 --> 01:00:54,942
Never very good news, is it?
1195
01:00:56,778 --> 01:00:57,862
Not often.
1196
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,377
[on phone] Operator.
1197
01:01:12,460 --> 01:01:14,253
Can you connect me with Phil in Legal?
1198
01:01:14,337 --> 01:01:15,421
Right away.
1199
01:01:15,505 --> 01:01:16,673
1200
01:01:17,382 --> 01:01:19,801
-Mr. Williams.
-Guilty.
1201
01:01:19,884 --> 01:01:21,761
-
-Let's hope not.
1202
01:01:23,638 --> 01:01:25,515
There isn't a lot of time,
so I'll be brief.
1203
01:01:27,058 --> 01:01:30,144
This network is under
a tremendous amount of pressure.
1204
01:01:30,228 --> 01:01:32,605
-These stories aren't helping.
-I... I understand.
1205
01:01:32,689 --> 01:01:33,940
I'm not sure you do.
1206
01:01:35,149 --> 01:01:38,820
There's a great deal of concern
about your past positions.
1207
01:01:38,903 --> 01:01:41,280
-My wife's past position?
-That's right.
1208
01:01:42,532 --> 01:01:44,409
HUAC has a file on you.
1209
01:01:46,452 --> 01:01:49,956
-How do you know?
-A file was sent to Mr. Paley yesterday.
1210
01:01:50,039 --> 01:01:51,457
Well, that's interesting timing.
1211
01:01:51,541 --> 01:01:53,251
Well, when you strike at a king...
1212
01:01:53,334 --> 01:01:55,628
Or a junior senator from Wisconsin?
1213
01:01:59,132 --> 01:02:01,134
CBS is prepared to make an offer.
1214
01:02:01,217 --> 01:02:02,927
-Uh-oh.
-If you submit your resignation,
1215
01:02:03,010 --> 01:02:06,806
CBS will cover any legal expenses
you might incur on this subject.
1216
01:02:06,889 --> 01:02:08,516
-That's awfully kind of you.
-No, it isn't.
1217
01:02:08,599 --> 01:02:11,060
-No, it isn't.
-
1218
01:02:11,144 --> 01:02:14,439
These guys don't play around.
They're relentless.
1219
01:02:14,522 --> 01:02:17,608
They will cost you everything you have.
1220
01:02:18,776 --> 01:02:20,153
I understand.
1221
01:02:23,489 --> 01:02:24,615
Do you?
1222
01:02:26,117 --> 01:02:27,118
Palmer...
1223
01:02:27,827 --> 01:02:29,078
take the deal.
1224
01:02:29,871 --> 01:02:33,374
If these guys decide to call you in,
we will cut you loose.
1225
01:02:33,458 --> 01:02:37,670
And then no one will be there to help.
Not CBS, not Murrow.
1226
01:02:38,588 --> 01:02:39,797
No one.
1227
01:02:45,928 --> 01:02:47,263
Phil, you're a good guy.
1228
01:02:48,723 --> 01:02:51,601
And I... I appreciate that this is your job...
1229
01:02:53,686 --> 01:02:57,023
but what you're asking me to do,
I could never do.
1230
01:02:59,776 --> 01:03:01,235
I understand.
1231
01:03:04,781 --> 01:03:06,741
It's funny how your life can be upended
1232
01:03:06,824 --> 01:03:08,826
-just for telling the truth.
-And marrying a communist.
1233
01:03:08,910 --> 01:03:10,870
-Oh, yeah. There is that.
-
1234
01:03:12,205 --> 01:03:13,206
Be careful.
1235
01:03:14,081 --> 01:03:15,374
Yeah.
1236
01:03:15,917 --> 01:03:17,919
1237
01:03:18,002 --> 01:03:21,130
[Hewitt] Ed. It's 28 minutes.
1238
01:03:21,214 --> 01:03:23,424
I could clip a little off the ends.
1239
01:03:23,508 --> 01:03:27,178
I think we have to leave it alone.
Very smart. No time for comment.
1240
01:03:27,261 --> 01:03:31,724
Came in ten minutes ago and we put it up,
saw the first couple of minutes...
1241
01:03:32,767 --> 01:03:35,228
-You're right.
-He's coming after me.
1242
01:03:36,103 --> 01:03:37,730
Okay. Thanks.
1243
01:03:40,483 --> 01:03:42,443
Charlie, have you seen the latest polls?
1244
01:03:42,527 --> 01:03:45,321
The most trusted man in America
is Milton Berle.
1245
01:03:45,404 --> 01:03:46,739
1246
01:03:46,823 --> 01:03:48,908
Maybe he should do the story.
1247
01:03:50,076 --> 01:03:51,577
[Ed] Hey, Fred.
1248
01:03:51,661 --> 01:03:54,455
What say we grab
a little dinner after the show?
1249
01:03:54,539 --> 01:03:56,666
-The 21 Club?
-Sure.
1250
01:03:56,749 --> 01:03:58,835
Forty-five seconds to air.
1251
01:04:00,169 --> 01:04:01,838
Look...
1252
01:04:01,921 --> 01:04:04,215
there's nothing fun about this one.
1253
01:04:04,298 --> 01:04:07,260
You just gotta put your gloves down,
stick your chin out,
1254
01:04:07,343 --> 01:04:09,554
and just take it for a whole round.
1255
01:04:09,637 --> 01:04:12,890
-Next week's our round.
-If I make it up off the mat.
1256
01:04:12,974 --> 01:04:15,059
-You will.
-[Hewitt] Thirty seconds.
1257
01:04:15,142 --> 01:04:17,854
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1258
01:04:17,937 --> 01:04:20,106
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1259
01:04:20,189 --> 01:04:22,859
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1260
01:04:22,942 --> 01:04:25,069
-
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1261
01:04:25,152 --> 01:04:26,529
[Hewitt] Twenty seconds.
1262
01:04:26,612 --> 01:04:30,575
...like wonderful Ivory Snow
because it's the only soap
1263
01:04:30,658 --> 01:04:33,786
both ivory mild for kindness to your hands
1264
01:04:33,870 --> 01:04:36,664
and granulated for speed in your dishpan.
1265
01:04:36,747 --> 01:04:38,749
-Ten seconds.
-...for speedier dishwashing,
1266
01:04:38,833 --> 01:04:41,294
for snow-white hands.
1267
01:04:41,377 --> 01:04:46,549
[Hewitt] In five, four, three, two...
1268
01:04:47,925 --> 01:04:49,010
Good evening.
1269
01:04:49,093 --> 01:04:53,472
One month ago tonight we presented
our report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy.
1270
01:04:53,556 --> 01:04:56,517
We labeled it as controversial.
Most of that report
1271
01:04:56,601 --> 01:04:59,437
consisted of words and pictures
of the senator.
1272
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:00,938
At the time, we told the senator
1273
01:05:01,022 --> 01:05:03,691
that if he feels that we have
done violence to his words
1274
01:05:03,774 --> 01:05:06,736
or pictures and he wishes
to speak to answer himself,
1275
01:05:06,819 --> 01:05:09,614
an opportunity would be
afforded him on this program.
1276
01:05:09,697 --> 01:05:12,199
The senator sought that opportunity,
1277
01:05:12,283 --> 01:05:14,785
asked for a three-week delay
because he said he was very busy
1278
01:05:14,869 --> 01:05:18,664
and wished adequate time
to prepare his reply. We agreed.
1279
01:05:18,748 --> 01:05:21,083
We placed no restrictions
on the method or manner
1280
01:05:21,167 --> 01:05:23,002
of the presentation of his reply,
1281
01:05:23,085 --> 01:05:27,173
and suggested that we would not take time
for comment on this program.
1282
01:05:27,256 --> 01:05:31,552
Here now is Senator Joseph R. McCarthy,
junior senator from Wisconsin.
1283
01:05:32,803 --> 01:05:34,263
Uh, good evening.
1284
01:05:34,347 --> 01:05:39,477
Mr. Edward R. Murrow, Educational Director
of the Columbia Broadcasting System,
1285
01:05:40,311 --> 01:05:43,272
devoted his program
to an attack on the work
1286
01:05:43,356 --> 01:05:46,108
of the United States Senate
Investigating Committee
1287
01:05:46,192 --> 01:05:48,277
and on me personally as its chairman.
1288
01:05:48,361 --> 01:05:51,572
Now, ordinarily... ordinarily,
I would not take time out
1289
01:05:51,656 --> 01:05:55,660
from the important work at hand
to answer Murrow.
1290
01:05:55,743 --> 01:05:59,497
However, in this case,
I feel justified in doing so
1291
01:05:59,580 --> 01:06:01,916
because Murrow is a symbol,
1292
01:06:01,999 --> 01:06:06,253
the leader and the cleverest
of the jackal pack,
1293
01:06:06,337 --> 01:06:11,050
which is always found at the throat
of anyone who dares to expose
1294
01:06:11,133 --> 01:06:13,427
individual Communists and traitors.
1295
01:06:14,136 --> 01:06:19,600
I am compelled by the fact
to say to you that Mr. Edward R. Murrow,
1296
01:06:19,684 --> 01:06:22,853
as far back as 20 years ago
1297
01:06:22,937 --> 01:06:26,524
was engaged in propaganda
for Communist causes.
1298
01:06:27,566 --> 01:06:30,695
For example, the Institute
of International Education,
1299
01:06:30,778 --> 01:06:33,572
of which he was the acting director,
1300
01:06:33,656 --> 01:06:39,704
was chosen to act as a representative
by a Soviet agency
1301
01:06:39,787 --> 01:06:45,418
to do a job which would normally be done
by the Russian Secret Police.
1302
01:06:45,501 --> 01:06:49,046
Now, Mr. Murrow, by his own admission,
was a member of the IWW,
1303
01:06:49,130 --> 01:06:51,674
that's the Industrial Workers
of the World,
1304
01:06:51,757 --> 01:06:55,302
a terrorist organization
cited as subversive
1305
01:06:55,386 --> 01:06:57,930
by an Attorney General
of the United States.
1306
01:06:58,014 --> 01:07:02,226
Now, Mr. Murrow said
on this program, and I quote,
1307
01:07:02,309 --> 01:07:07,440
he said, "The actions
of the junior senator from Wisconsin
1308
01:07:07,523 --> 01:07:12,028
have given considerable
comfort to the enemy."
1309
01:07:12,111 --> 01:07:16,574
That is the language of our Statute
of Treason, rather strong language.
1310
01:07:16,657 --> 01:07:22,371
If I am giving comfort to our enemies,
I ought not to be in the Senate.
1311
01:07:22,455 --> 01:07:25,666
If, on the other hand,
Mr. Murrow is giving comfort
1312
01:07:25,750 --> 01:07:31,088
to our enemies, he ought not to be brought
into the homes of millions of Americans
1313
01:07:31,172 --> 01:07:33,799
by the Columbia Broadcasting System.
1314
01:07:33,883 --> 01:07:36,135
This is a question...
1315
01:07:36,218 --> 01:07:39,388
which can be resolved
with very little difficulty...
1316
01:07:41,724 --> 01:07:44,518
I have to go to Philadelphia
in the morning.
1317
01:07:45,811 --> 01:07:49,023
-What time is your train?
-Uh, 8:00.
1318
01:07:49,106 --> 01:07:51,692
-Is Charlie going with you?
-Mm-hmm.
1319
01:07:57,406 --> 01:07:58,574
[Joe] I don't...
1320
01:07:59,909 --> 01:08:03,079
-
-uh... want to say...
1321
01:08:04,246 --> 01:08:05,790
what I'm about to say.
1322
01:08:06,707 --> 01:08:08,417
-Uh-oh.
-Yeah.
1323
01:08:08,501 --> 01:08:09,877
You want a divorce?
1324
01:08:10,669 --> 01:08:12,671
No. Do you?
1325
01:08:14,381 --> 01:08:16,258
Depends on what you're about to say.
1326
01:08:16,342 --> 01:08:18,385
1327
01:08:18,469 --> 01:08:21,222
I just keep having this nagging thought...
1328
01:08:22,348 --> 01:08:24,141
that we might be wrong.
1329
01:08:25,142 --> 01:08:26,602
About what?
1330
01:08:26,685 --> 01:08:28,062
Well...
1331
01:08:28,145 --> 01:08:29,939
-there are Communists here.
-Yes.
1332
01:08:30,022 --> 01:08:32,650
[chuckles] And hey don't always
have our best interests at heart.
1333
01:08:32,733 --> 01:08:33,859
-Probably not.
-Yeah.
1334
01:08:33,943 --> 01:08:35,486
-Does McCarthy?
-Well...
1335
01:08:36,737 --> 01:08:38,614
The argument could be made...
1336
01:08:39,657 --> 01:08:41,492
it's for the greater good.
1337
01:08:42,409 --> 01:08:45,746
-That's one argument.
-Like Alger Hiss... was.
1338
01:08:45,830 --> 01:08:47,581
Alger Hiss had a trial.
1339
01:08:47,665 --> 01:08:50,626
[chuckles] Alger Hiss faced his accusers.
1340
01:08:51,502 --> 01:08:53,129
-He went to jail.
-That's right.
1341
01:08:54,130 --> 01:08:55,548
That's how this works.
1342
01:09:00,553 --> 01:09:02,555
So, we're not gonna look back and...
1343
01:09:03,514 --> 01:09:05,766
say we protected the wrong side?
1344
01:09:07,434 --> 01:09:09,520
-You're right, Joe.
-Yeah?
1345
01:09:11,897 --> 01:09:14,942
-I want a divorce.
-
1346
01:09:15,025 --> 01:09:16,819
Yeah, wouldn't blame you.
1347
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,072
When did you start smoking?
1348
01:09:21,365 --> 01:09:23,409
-Fifteen minutes ago.
-
1349
01:09:25,911 --> 01:09:27,204
Good evening.
1350
01:09:27,288 --> 01:09:29,498
Last week, Senator McCarthy appeared
1351
01:09:29,582 --> 01:09:32,251
on this program to correct
any errors he might have thought
1352
01:09:32,334 --> 01:09:34,795
we made in our report of March 9th.
1353
01:09:34,879 --> 01:09:37,923
Since he made no reference
to any statements of fact,
1354
01:09:38,007 --> 01:09:39,466
we must conclude that he found
1355
01:09:39,550 --> 01:09:41,677
no errors of fact.
1356
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:46,515
He proved, once again, that anyone
who exposes him, anyone who does not share
1357
01:09:46,599 --> 01:09:49,852
his hysterical disregard
to decency and human dignity
1358
01:09:49,935 --> 01:09:52,104
and the rights guaranteed
in the Constitution
1359
01:09:52,188 --> 01:09:55,691
must be either a Communist
or a fellow traveler.
1360
01:09:55,774 --> 01:09:58,027
I fully expected this treatment.
1361
01:09:58,110 --> 01:09:59,695
The senator added this reporter's name
1362
01:09:59,778 --> 01:10:02,865
to a long list of individuals
and institutions
1363
01:10:02,948 --> 01:10:05,784
that he has accused of serving
the Communist cause.
1364
01:10:05,868 --> 01:10:07,995
His proposition is a very simple one.
1365
01:10:08,078 --> 01:10:11,540
Anyone who criticizes
or opposes McCarthy's methods
1366
01:10:11,624 --> 01:10:14,335
must be a Communist. And if that be true,
1367
01:10:14,418 --> 01:10:17,171
there are an awful lot
of Communists in this country.
1368
01:10:17,254 --> 01:10:21,258
For the record, let us consider briefly
some of the senator's charges.
1369
01:10:21,342 --> 01:10:23,219
He claimed, but offered no proof,
1370
01:10:23,302 --> 01:10:25,596
that I was a member of the
Industrial Workers of the World.
1371
01:10:25,679 --> 01:10:29,058
That is false.
I never was a member of the IWW.
1372
01:10:29,141 --> 01:10:30,976
Never applied for membership.
1373
01:10:31,060 --> 01:10:33,395
The senator charged
that Professor Harold Laski,
1374
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,482
a British scholar and politician,
dedicated a book to me.
1375
01:10:36,565 --> 01:10:40,611
That is true. He is dead.
He was a socialist. I am not.
1376
01:10:40,694 --> 01:10:42,988
He was one of those civilized individuals
1377
01:10:43,072 --> 01:10:45,741
who didn't insist upon agreement
with political principles
1378
01:10:45,824 --> 01:10:48,827
as a precondition
for friendship or conversation.
1379
01:10:48,911 --> 01:10:51,413
I don't agree with his political ideas.
1380
01:10:51,497 --> 01:10:53,874
Laski, as he makes clear
in the introduction,
1381
01:10:53,958 --> 01:10:57,002
dedicated the book to me
not because of political agreement,
1382
01:10:57,086 --> 01:10:59,296
but because he held my wartime broadcasts
1383
01:10:59,380 --> 01:11:03,550
from London in high regard,
and the dedication so reads.
1384
01:11:03,634 --> 01:11:06,095
I believed 20 years ago,
and I believe today,
1385
01:11:06,178 --> 01:11:08,555
that mature Americans
can engage in conversation,
1386
01:11:08,639 --> 01:11:11,475
controversy, a clash of ideas
with Communists anywhere
1387
01:11:11,558 --> 01:11:14,645
in the world without becoming
contaminated or converted.
1388
01:11:14,728 --> 01:11:16,438
{\an8}I believe that our faith, our conviction,
1389
01:11:16,522 --> 01:11:18,816
{\an8}our determination
are stronger than theirs,
1390
01:11:18,899 --> 01:11:21,110
{\an8}and that we can compete, and successfully,
1391
01:11:21,193 --> 01:11:25,948
{\an8}not only in the area of bombs,
but in the area of ideas.
1392
01:11:26,031 --> 01:11:29,410
{\an8}I have worked for CBS for 19 years.
1393
01:11:29,493 --> 01:11:32,871
{\an8}The company has subscribed fully
to my integrity
1394
01:11:32,955 --> 01:11:36,875
{\an8}as a broadcaster and as a loyal American.
1395
01:11:36,959 --> 01:11:40,045
{\an8}I require no lectures
from the junior senator from Wisconsin.
1396
01:11:41,297 --> 01:11:43,674
{\an8}Having searched
my conscience and my files,
1397
01:11:43,757 --> 01:11:46,385
{\an8}I cannot contend that I have
always been right or wise.
1398
01:11:46,468 --> 01:11:48,095
{\an8}But I have attempted to pursue the truth
1399
01:11:48,178 --> 01:11:51,265
{\an8}with some diligence
and to report it, even though,
1400
01:11:51,348 --> 01:11:53,726
{\an8}as in this case,
I had been warned in advance
1401
01:11:53,809 --> 01:11:55,477
{\an8}that I would be subjected
to the attentions
1402
01:11:55,561 --> 01:11:57,438
{\an8}of Senator McCarthy.
1403
01:11:57,521 --> 01:11:58,897
{\an8}We should hope to deal with matters
1404
01:11:58,981 --> 01:12:01,108
{\an8}of more vital interest
to the country next week.
1405
01:12:01,191 --> 01:12:02,860
{\an8}Good night, and good luck.
1406
01:12:02,943 --> 01:12:06,405
{\an8}
1407
01:12:07,781 --> 01:12:09,533
And we're out.
1408
01:12:13,203 --> 01:12:15,247
-
-[singer] ♪ Use new White Rain ♪
1409
01:12:15,331 --> 01:12:17,041
♪ Shampoo tonight ♪
1410
01:12:17,124 --> 01:12:20,461
♪ And tomorrow your hair
Will be sunshine bright ♪
1411
01:12:20,544 --> 01:12:24,631
-
-♪ Sun, rain, sun, rain ♪
1412
01:12:26,175 --> 01:12:27,843
Good morning.
1413
01:12:27,926 --> 01:12:29,219
[Ella] How are you feeling?
1414
01:12:29,303 --> 01:12:31,597
How am I... [laughs] How are you feeling?
1415
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:33,390
What time did you leave last night?
1416
01:12:33,474 --> 01:12:35,017
[Imani] She didn't leave last night.
1417
01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:37,394
I didn't leave this morning.
1418
01:12:37,478 --> 01:12:40,314
- Uh, it's just this today.
-Oh, just this.
1419
01:12:40,397 --> 01:12:41,648
Yes, ma'am.
1420
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:47,154
♪ Somewhere there's music ♪
1421
01:12:47,237 --> 01:12:49,615
♪ How faint the tune ♪
1422
01:12:49,698 --> 01:12:55,120
♪ Somewhere there's heaven
How high the moon ♪
1423
01:12:55,204 --> 01:12:56,413
-
-Uh...
1424
01:12:56,497 --> 01:12:58,540
Uh, what time are we going till today?
1425
01:12:58,624 --> 01:13:01,960
Oh, uh... I'll get back
to you in a minute.
1426
01:13:02,044 --> 01:13:03,962
[scoffs] We'll be here.
1427
01:13:05,130 --> 01:13:08,258
"In the last analysis,
the senator was perched
1428
01:13:08,342 --> 01:13:10,969
on the television high dive
and all prepared
1429
01:13:11,053 --> 01:13:12,930
to make a resounding splash.
1430
01:13:13,013 --> 01:13:16,683
He jumped beautifully,
but neglected to che...
1431
01:13:16,767 --> 01:13:19,812
...to check first
where he was going to land."
1432
01:13:19,895 --> 01:13:21,438
"It must have been something
1433
01:13:21,522 --> 01:13:26,193
of a shock to discover that Mr. Murrow
had drained the water out of the pool."
1434
01:13:26,276 --> 01:13:27,569
1435
01:13:27,653 --> 01:13:28,987
-[Charlie] Jack Gould.
-[Joe] The Times.
1436
01:13:29,071 --> 01:13:30,489
Yeah, The Times.
1437
01:13:30,572 --> 01:13:33,409
[Joe] He's a... hell of a writer.
1438
01:13:33,492 --> 01:13:34,910
We should hire him away from The Times.
1439
01:13:34,993 --> 01:13:37,955
Yeah. Well, uh, CBS has got
a public opinion survey here
1440
01:13:38,038 --> 01:13:40,916
that, uh, Elmo Roper put together.
1441
01:13:40,999 --> 01:13:42,042
-Uh-oh.
-Says,
1442
01:13:42,126 --> 01:13:46,839
"Thirty-three percent of all households
believe McCarthy proved you're a Commie..."
1443
01:13:46,922 --> 01:13:48,757
[Palmer] Only 33 percent?
1444
01:13:48,841 --> 01:13:50,968
Listen, listen, listen.
1445
01:13:52,970 --> 01:13:55,639
The Senate is investigating McCarthy.
1446
01:13:55,722 --> 01:13:57,558
1447
01:13:57,641 --> 01:13:59,601
1448
01:14:09,778 --> 01:14:12,156
Oh, oh, you'll be all right, Palmer.
1449
01:14:12,239 --> 01:14:14,032
-You'll be all right.
-Palmer!
1450
01:14:16,660 --> 01:14:18,203
Fritz, did you hear?
1451
01:14:18,287 --> 01:14:20,080
The Senate's investigating McCarthy.
1452
01:14:20,164 --> 01:14:22,332
We're a hit.
We're up there with Howdy Doody.
1453
01:14:22,416 --> 01:14:23,500
[Fred] Hold on, Ed.
1454
01:14:25,294 --> 01:14:31,341
[Ella] ♪ Somewhere there's music ♪
1455
01:14:31,425 --> 01:14:36,847
♪ How faint the tune ♪
1456
01:14:36,930 --> 01:14:42,895
♪ Somewhere there's heaven ♪
1457
01:14:42,978 --> 01:14:49,318
♪ How high the moon ♪
1458
01:14:50,694 --> 01:14:56,617
♪ There is no moon ♪
1459
01:14:56,700 --> 01:14:58,744
♪ Above ♪
1460
01:14:58,827 --> 01:15:00,662
♪ When love ♪
1461
01:15:00,746 --> 01:15:06,335
♪ Is far away too ♪
1462
01:15:08,462 --> 01:15:14,551
♪ Until it comes true ♪
1463
01:15:15,928 --> 01:15:20,307
♪ That you love me ♪
1464
01:15:20,390 --> 01:15:26,480
♪ As I love you ♪
1465
01:15:28,524 --> 01:15:30,734
One of the best programs I ever heard
1466
01:15:30,817 --> 01:15:33,278
was called CBS Views the Press.
1467
01:15:33,362 --> 01:15:35,822
{\an8}A great many people liked it, some didn't.
1468
01:15:35,906 --> 01:15:38,033
{\an8}But no one would say
it was anything but honest.
1469
01:15:38,116 --> 01:15:40,827
{\an8}It was the work of an honest
reporter, Don Hollenbeck.
1470
01:15:40,911 --> 01:15:43,539
{\an8}He also worked occasionally on See It Now.
1471
01:15:43,622 --> 01:15:46,959
{\an8}He did the 11:00 p.m. news
over some of these stations.
1472
01:15:47,042 --> 01:15:50,212
{\an8}He'd been sick lately,
and he died this morning.
1473
01:15:50,295 --> 01:15:52,965
{\an8}The police said it was suicide.
1474
01:15:53,048 --> 01:15:54,299
{\an8}Gas.
1475
01:15:55,133 --> 01:15:56,510
{\an8}Not much of an obit...
1476
01:15:57,344 --> 01:15:59,680
{\an8}but at least we got our facts straight,
and it was brief.
1477
01:16:00,430 --> 01:16:02,391
{\an8}That's all Don Hollenbeck
would have asked.
1478
01:16:03,809 --> 01:16:06,186
{\an8}Good night... and good luck.
1479
01:16:12,985 --> 01:16:17,531
{\an8}[Ella] ♪ Until you will ♪
1480
01:16:17,614 --> 01:16:20,909
{\an8}♪ How still my heart ♪
1481
01:16:21,493 --> 01:16:27,457
♪ How high the moon ♪
1482
01:16:42,598 --> 01:16:43,682
1483
01:16:48,145 --> 01:16:49,521
Son of a bitch.
1484
01:17:19,217 --> 01:17:20,594
1485
01:17:26,558 --> 01:17:28,018
[John clears throat] Here.
1486
01:17:29,728 --> 01:17:30,812
See It Now.
1487
01:17:32,272 --> 01:17:35,525
Uh, yeah. Circulate that memo to 41.
1488
01:17:35,609 --> 01:17:39,154
Yeah. Circulate to Stanton.
Circulate to Sig.
1489
01:17:39,237 --> 01:17:41,406
{\an8}Um, everybody gets that memo. Got it?
1490
01:17:43,575 --> 01:17:45,619
{\an8}Yes. Well, Sunday, 4:30.
1491
01:17:47,454 --> 01:17:48,955
{\an8}Yes. 4:30, Sunday. Yes.
1492
01:17:49,873 --> 01:17:51,708
[John] All right.
1493
01:17:51,792 --> 01:17:55,295
[John] Yep. Okay. Thanks. Yep. Thank you.
1494
01:18:01,009 --> 01:18:02,803
Joe. Shirley.
1495
01:18:03,637 --> 01:18:07,557
Can I talk to you both?
Let's use the editing room.
1496
01:18:11,603 --> 01:18:13,814
Millie, could you excuse us for a minute?
1497
01:18:23,615 --> 01:18:24,825
Shirley...
1498
01:18:26,743 --> 01:18:28,412
-how are you?
-
1499
01:18:29,663 --> 01:18:31,164
Fine, Fred.
1500
01:18:36,253 --> 01:18:37,963
Is there a... Is there a problem, Fred?
1501
01:18:38,046 --> 01:18:40,757
I wanna ask you both
a question...
1502
01:18:40,841 --> 01:18:42,426
...but I don't want you to answer it.
1503
01:18:43,844 --> 01:18:45,303
Just consider it.
1504
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:48,306
I know you two are married.
1505
01:18:51,268 --> 01:18:53,478
Everyone knows. That's not my question.
1506
01:18:53,562 --> 01:18:55,856
1507
01:18:55,939 --> 01:18:57,607
In the next few weeks...
1508
01:18:58,567 --> 01:19:00,944
I have to lay a couple of people off.
1509
01:19:02,446 --> 01:19:07,117
We're making some significant
cuts across the board.
1510
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,327
I... I wanted you to know that because, uh...
1511
01:19:10,704 --> 01:19:12,914
if you have any intention
in the near future
1512
01:19:12,998 --> 01:19:14,791
of starting a family...
1513
01:19:16,084 --> 01:19:19,963
I would say to you that you could save
someone else from being fired.
1514
01:19:22,090 --> 01:19:23,884
I'm...
1515
01:19:23,967 --> 01:19:28,054
asking you to consider making
this decision a little easier.
1516
01:19:30,724 --> 01:19:31,850
1517
01:19:33,351 --> 01:19:36,813
I don't need an answer now.
Just think about it.
1518
01:19:49,242 --> 01:19:50,243
Well...
1519
01:19:53,622 --> 01:19:54,915
Mrs. Wershba...
1520
01:19:55,791 --> 01:19:56,792
1521
01:19:57,667 --> 01:19:59,878
We're really going to miss you
around here, Joe.
1522
01:19:59,961 --> 01:20:03,256
1523
01:20:12,474 --> 01:20:14,643
-Everybody knew.
-
1524
01:20:16,353 --> 01:20:20,774
[Bill] Yeah. The problem
isn't simply that you lost your sponsor.
1525
01:20:20,857 --> 01:20:22,859
Even with ALCOA,
See It Now still loses money.
1526
01:20:22,943 --> 01:20:23,985
The fee is $50,000.
1527
01:20:24,069 --> 01:20:25,612
Last week's show
we did for less than the fee.
1528
01:20:25,695 --> 01:20:27,155
We'll find another sponsor.
1529
01:20:27,239 --> 01:20:31,910
$64,000 Question brings in
over 80,000 in sponsors,
1530
01:20:31,993 --> 01:20:34,329
and it costs a third of what you do.
1531
01:20:34,412 --> 01:20:37,123
Ed, I've got Tuesday night programming.
1532
01:20:37,207 --> 01:20:38,834
It's number one.
1533
01:20:38,917 --> 01:20:41,753
Because people just want
to enjoy themselves.
1534
01:20:41,837 --> 01:20:43,797
They don't want a civics lecture.
1535
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,966
-Well, what do you want, Bill?
-Well, I don't want
1536
01:20:46,049 --> 01:20:49,594
a constant stomachache
every time you take on a...
1537
01:20:49,678 --> 01:20:51,513
controversial subject.
1538
01:20:51,596 --> 01:20:53,765
That's a price you have
to be willing to pay.
1539
01:20:53,849 --> 01:20:54,933
Careful, Ed.
1540
01:20:56,226 --> 01:20:59,896
Let's walk very carefully
through these next few moments.
1541
01:21:03,066 --> 01:21:05,235
The content of what we're doing
is more important
1542
01:21:05,318 --> 01:21:07,195
than what some sponsor
in Cincinnati, Ohio thinks.
1543
01:21:07,279 --> 01:21:08,697
No, no. What you're doing.
1544
01:21:08,780 --> 01:21:10,532
Not me, not CBS. You.
1545
01:21:10,615 --> 01:21:12,784
CBS News, See It Now,
they all belong to you.
1546
01:21:12,868 --> 01:21:15,871
-Well, you wouldn't know it.
-Is it credit that you want?
1547
01:21:15,954 --> 01:21:18,957
I never censored a single program.
1548
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:21,209
-Oh, my...
-I've kept our affiliates
1549
01:21:21,293 --> 01:21:23,336
who just wanted entertainment from us.
1550
01:21:23,420 --> 01:21:26,381
And I fought to keep our license
1551
01:21:26,464 --> 01:21:29,175
with the same politicians
you were working to bring down.
1552
01:21:29,259 --> 01:21:31,386
And I never said no to you.
1553
01:21:31,469 --> 01:21:32,804
-Not once.
-I would argue that we have
1554
01:21:32,888 --> 01:21:34,306
-done well by one another.
-[Bill] Never!
1555
01:21:34,389 --> 01:21:36,433
I would argue that this network is defined
1556
01:21:36,516 --> 01:21:38,727
by what the news department
has accomplished.
1557
01:21:38,810 --> 01:21:40,645
I would also argue not saying "no"
1558
01:21:40,729 --> 01:21:43,356
is not the same as not censoring.
1559
01:21:44,232 --> 01:21:45,233
Really?
1560
01:21:46,651 --> 01:21:48,737
You should teach journalism.
1561
01:21:49,863 --> 01:21:51,197
{\an8}No, let me ask you this.
1562
01:21:51,281 --> 01:21:53,658
{\an8}Why is it that you always refer to him
1563
01:21:53,742 --> 01:21:55,619
{\an8}as the junior senator from Wisconsin?
1564
01:21:55,702 --> 01:21:57,746
{\an8}Because he's the junior senator
from Wisconsin.
1565
01:21:57,829 --> 01:21:59,164
{\an8}
1566
01:22:00,582 --> 01:22:01,625
Not likely.
1567
01:22:02,667 --> 01:22:07,380
You taunt him, Ed, like a cat
with a ball of string.
1568
01:22:08,298 --> 01:22:10,759
But now, you see, you've opened the door.
1569
01:22:10,842 --> 01:22:13,762
News with a dash of commentary.
1570
01:22:15,013 --> 01:22:20,018
What happens when it isn't
Edward R. Murrow minding the store?
1571
01:22:22,312 --> 01:22:23,897
[sighs] I...
1572
01:22:24,689 --> 01:22:26,316
What do you wanna do, Bill?
1573
01:22:27,651 --> 01:22:31,446
[sighs] I'm gonna take your show
from half an hour to an hour.
1574
01:22:32,489 --> 01:22:36,618
But it won't be a weekly program
and it won't be on Tuesday night.
1575
01:22:37,243 --> 01:22:38,787
-When would it be?
-Sunday...
1576
01:22:39,996 --> 01:22:41,039
afternoon.
1577
01:22:43,708 --> 01:22:45,043
How many episodes?
1578
01:22:45,669 --> 01:22:46,878
Five.
1579
01:22:50,757 --> 01:22:53,426
[scoffs] Why don't you just fire me, Bill?
1580
01:22:53,510 --> 01:22:54,469
1581
01:22:54,552 --> 01:22:57,973
Well, Ed, I don't think
it's what either of us wants.
1582
01:23:00,266 --> 01:23:02,060
You owe me five shows.
1583
01:23:04,646 --> 01:23:06,523
You won't like the subject matter.
1584
01:23:06,606 --> 01:23:08,566
No, probably not.
1585
01:23:08,650 --> 01:23:10,527
1586
01:23:17,075 --> 01:23:20,078
[Fred] He wants me
to lay a few people off.
1587
01:23:20,161 --> 01:23:21,162
Hmm.
1588
01:23:22,831 --> 01:23:23,999
I'm sure.
1589
01:23:24,708 --> 01:23:28,586
Let's do the next show
about the downfall of television.
1590
01:23:28,670 --> 01:23:30,630
1591
01:23:30,714 --> 01:23:34,092
So, if the Senate votes
to censure McCarthy,
1592
01:23:34,175 --> 01:23:36,302
-what happens then?
-
1593
01:23:36,386 --> 01:23:38,638
He sits in the back row.
1594
01:23:38,722 --> 01:23:41,391
-But they don't kick him out?
-No, he stays.
1595
01:23:41,474 --> 01:23:44,894
He'll just... just lose all of his power.
1596
01:23:44,978 --> 01:23:46,771
He's already lost all of his power.
1597
01:23:46,855 --> 01:23:48,982
[chuckles] Right.
1598
01:23:49,774 --> 01:23:51,443
Now, they just teach him a lesson.
1599
01:23:51,526 --> 01:23:52,610
Yeah.
1600
01:23:55,989 --> 01:23:59,659
They're moving See It Now
to Sunday afternoons.
1601
01:24:02,829 --> 01:24:03,872
Uh-oh.
1602
01:24:03,955 --> 01:24:06,041
1603
01:24:06,124 --> 01:24:08,209
-How many episodes?
-Five.
1604
01:24:09,961 --> 01:24:11,671
1605
01:24:11,755 --> 01:24:13,548
[smacks lips] Well...
1606
01:24:14,799 --> 01:24:17,218
might as well go down swinging.
1607
01:24:17,969 --> 01:24:20,638
We'll do the story
about the migrant farm workers.
1608
01:24:20,722 --> 01:24:22,682
-Make a couple of enemies.
-
1609
01:24:23,475 --> 01:24:26,311
The most trusted man
in America is Milton Berle.
1610
01:24:26,394 --> 01:24:27,687
1611
01:24:27,771 --> 01:24:30,774
See? Maybe you should have worn a dress.
1612
01:24:30,857 --> 01:24:32,817
-Hmm.
-
1613
01:24:32,901 --> 01:24:34,819
My legs are too skinny.
1614
01:24:34,903 --> 01:24:38,114
-Feel like a scotch?
-Scotch is good.
1615
01:24:38,198 --> 01:24:40,784
Did you know that Joe
and Shirley were married?
1616
01:24:40,867 --> 01:24:42,035
Sure.
1617
01:24:43,244 --> 01:24:44,829
Did everyone know?
1618
01:24:45,580 --> 01:24:47,832
-Pretty much.
-
1619
01:24:47,916 --> 01:24:49,042
Oh, it's nothing.
1620
01:24:49,125 --> 01:24:51,002
I meant to do you no personal injury.
1621
01:24:51,086 --> 01:24:53,338
-[Cohn] No?
-And if I did,
1622
01:24:53,421 --> 01:24:55,215
I beg your pardon.
1623
01:24:55,298 --> 01:24:58,718
Let us not assassinate
this lad further, Senator.
1624
01:24:58,802 --> 01:25:00,929
-[McCarthy] Let's... Let's...
-You've done enough.
1625
01:25:01,012 --> 01:25:06,309
Have you no sense of decency,
sir, at long last?
1626
01:25:06,392 --> 01:25:10,230
Have you left no sense of decency?
1627
01:25:10,313 --> 01:25:11,773
[McCarthy] I know this hurts you,
Mr. Welch.
1628
01:25:11,856 --> 01:25:12,857
I'll get the scotch.
1629
01:25:12,941 --> 01:25:14,109
[Mr. Welch] I'll say it hurts.
1630
01:25:14,192 --> 01:25:16,444
[McCarthy] If I may say, Mr. Chairman,
as a point of personal privilege,
1631
01:25:16,528 --> 01:25:17,529
I'd like to finish this.
1632
01:25:17,612 --> 01:25:19,405
[Mr. Welch] Senator,
I think it hurts you too, sir.
1633
01:25:19,489 --> 01:25:20,907
[McCarthy] I'd like to finish this.
1634
01:25:20,990 --> 01:25:24,869
Mr. McCarthy, I will not
discuss this further with you.
1635
01:25:24,953 --> 01:25:28,581
You have sat within six feet
of me and could have...
1636
01:25:28,665 --> 01:25:31,376
and could have asked me about Fred Fisher.
1637
01:25:31,459 --> 01:25:33,795
You have seen fit to bring it out,
1638
01:25:33,878 --> 01:25:38,466
and if there is a God in
heaven, it will do neither you
1639
01:25:38,550 --> 01:25:40,593
nor your cause any good.
1640
01:25:40,677 --> 01:25:43,388
I will not discuss it further.
1641
01:25:43,471 --> 01:25:46,766
I will not ask, Mr. Cohn,
any more witnesses.
1642
01:25:46,850 --> 01:25:51,271
You, Mr. Chairman, may, if you will,
call the next witness.
1643
01:25:54,357 --> 01:25:57,277
[chairman] Are there any questions to come
from the members of the chair?
1644
01:26:03,491 --> 01:26:08,997
I begin by saying our history will be
what we make of it.
1645
01:26:09,747 --> 01:26:13,585
If we go on as we are,
then history will take its revenge
1646
01:26:13,668 --> 01:26:16,713
and retribution will not limp
in catching up with us.
1647
01:26:17,755 --> 01:26:19,966
Just once in a while
let us exalt the importance
1648
01:26:20,049 --> 01:26:21,926
of ideas and information.
1649
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,471
Let us dream to the extent of saying
1650
01:26:25,555 --> 01:26:28,349
that on a given Sunday night,
the time normally used
1651
01:26:28,433 --> 01:26:31,978
by Ed Sullivan, is given
over to a clinical survey
1652
01:26:32,061 --> 01:26:34,981
on the state of American education.
1653
01:26:35,815 --> 01:26:37,817
And a week or two later,
the time normally used
1654
01:26:37,901 --> 01:26:40,195
by Steve Allen
1655
01:26:40,278 --> 01:26:44,407
is devoted to a thoroughgoing study
of American policies in the Middle East.
1656
01:26:45,742 --> 01:26:49,454
Would the corporate image
of their respective sponsor be damaged?
1657
01:26:49,537 --> 01:26:54,250
Would the stockholders rise up
in their wrath and complain?
1658
01:26:54,334 --> 01:26:56,753
Would anything happen
other than a few million people
1659
01:26:56,836 --> 01:26:59,172
would have received a little
illumination on subjects
1660
01:26:59,255 --> 01:27:01,966
that may well determine
the future of this country?
1661
01:27:03,801 --> 01:27:07,430
To those who say people wouldn't look,
they wouldn't be interested,
1662
01:27:07,513 --> 01:27:10,475
they're too complacent, indifferent...
1663
01:27:11,517 --> 01:27:12,477
insulated,
1664
01:27:13,770 --> 01:27:15,355
I can only reply there is...
1665
01:27:16,481 --> 01:27:17,815
in one reporter's opinion,
1666
01:27:17,899 --> 01:27:20,026
considerable evidence
against that contention.
1667
01:27:20,109 --> 01:27:23,738
But even if they are right...
what have they got to lose?
1668
01:27:24,781 --> 01:27:27,116
Because, if they are right
and these instruments are good
1669
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:30,620
for nothing but to entertain,
and amuse, and insulate...
1670
01:27:31,537 --> 01:27:34,582
then the tube is flickering now...
1671
01:27:34,666 --> 01:27:37,877
and we will soon see
that the whole struggle is lost.
1672
01:27:37,961 --> 01:27:41,214
-
-
1673
01:27:42,966 --> 01:27:45,718
[instructor] One, two, three,
a change, a one, two, three...
1674
01:27:45,802 --> 01:27:47,804
Ladies and gentlemen,
here he is, Fats Domino.
1675
01:27:47,887 --> 01:27:49,264
Good evening, I'm Mike Wallace.
1676
01:27:49,347 --> 01:27:53,017
{\an8}This is a program of fact,
news, information, and observation.
1677
01:27:53,101 --> 01:27:55,478
-Thank you very much.
-[MLK Jr.] Now is the time
1678
01:27:55,561 --> 01:27:57,772
to make real the promises of democracy.
1679
01:27:57,855 --> 01:27:59,899
Our goal is not the victory of might...
1680
01:27:59,983 --> 01:28:01,025
[Cronkite] From Dallas, Texas...
1681
01:28:01,109 --> 01:28:02,402
...but the vindication of right...
1682
01:28:02,485 --> 01:28:04,529
[Cronkite] ...the flash,
apparently official,
1683
01:28:04,612 --> 01:28:07,699
President Kennedy died at 1:00 p.m...
1684
01:28:07,782 --> 01:28:12,245
[Armstrong] One small step for man,
one giant leap...
1685
01:28:12,328 --> 01:28:15,206
Sock it to me, sock it to me,
sock it to me, sock it to me?
1686
01:28:15,290 --> 01:28:17,292
Ladies and gentlemen,
the Beatles. Bring them on.
1687
01:28:17,375 --> 01:28:20,586
[reporter] What happened here
at Kent State University defined a name.
1688
01:28:20,670 --> 01:28:22,463
Your president's a crook.
Well, I'm not a crook.
1689
01:28:22,547 --> 01:28:24,632
[announcer] The space shuttle Challenger
has exploded.
1690
01:28:24,716 --> 01:28:27,468
Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!
1691
01:28:27,552 --> 01:28:30,471
{\an8}It doesn't fit. If it
doesn't fit, you must acquit.
1692
01:28:30,555 --> 01:28:31,723
{\an8}They're supposed to be
married in three weeks.
1693
01:28:31,806 --> 01:28:34,142
{\an8}-What are you doing?
-
1694
01:28:34,225 --> 01:28:37,270
{\an8}-You are not the father.
-Yeah!
1695
01:28:37,353 --> 01:28:38,563
{\an8}Weapons of mass destruction...
1696
01:28:38,646 --> 01:28:40,273
{\an8}Didn't the media get rolled
by the Bush administration?
1697
01:28:40,356 --> 01:28:42,150
{\an8}We got him. We got him. We got him.
1698
01:28:42,233 --> 01:28:44,944
{\an8}[reporter] Look at New York City.
This is at the World Trade Center.
1699
01:28:45,028 --> 01:28:46,237
{\an8}[reporter 2] A big explosion
has just occurred.
1700
01:28:46,321 --> 01:28:47,989
{\an8}What exactly happened on 9/11?
1701
01:28:48,072 --> 01:28:50,408
{\an8}Conspiracy theories continue
to saturate the internet.
1702
01:28:50,491 --> 01:28:51,576
{\an8}Terrorist fist jab...
1703
01:28:51,659 --> 01:28:52,827
{\an8}He was wearing this tan suit...
1704
01:28:52,910 --> 01:28:53,911
{\an8}For all you kids watching at home,
1705
01:28:53,995 --> 01:28:56,164
{\an8}-Santa just is white.
-The big lie.
1706
01:28:56,247 --> 01:28:58,666
{\an8}-...on Dominion Voting...
-...company is called Dominion...
1707
01:28:58,750 --> 01:29:01,544
{\an8}Another in a series of stolen elections...
1708
01:29:01,627 --> 01:29:03,379
{\an8}President Biden has a photographic memory...
1709
01:29:03,463 --> 01:29:05,840
{\an8}-He's totally focused.
-He's very sharp at meetings.
1710
01:29:05,923 --> 01:29:07,550
{\an8}-Forget about the evidence.
-Alternative facts to that...
1711
01:29:07,633 --> 01:29:11,637
{\an8}FBI operatives were organizing
the attack on the...
1712
01:29:11,721 --> 01:29:14,891
{\an8}The FBI had 26 of their people
on the inside.
1713
01:29:14,974 --> 01:29:17,685
{\an8}-...false flag operation...
-Obtain millions of dollars
1714
01:29:17,769 --> 01:29:20,355
{\an8}and apologizing to the president-elect...
1715
01:29:20,438 --> 01:29:27,153
{\an8}-
-
1716
01:29:43,711 --> 01:29:46,923
Please raise your right hand
and repeat after me.
1717
01:29:47,006 --> 01:29:48,674
1718
01:29:48,758 --> 01:29:51,886
1719
01:30:05,191 --> 01:30:07,527
1720
01:30:20,456 --> 01:30:21,874
These instruments...
1721
01:30:22,583 --> 01:30:23,835
can teach,
1722
01:30:24,502 --> 01:30:26,045
they can illuminate,
1723
01:30:26,963 --> 01:30:29,006
they can even inspire.
1724
01:30:31,300 --> 01:30:33,469
But they can do so only
to the extent that humans
1725
01:30:33,553 --> 01:30:36,222
are determined to use them to those ends.
1726
01:30:36,305 --> 01:30:38,099
Otherwise...
1727
01:30:38,182 --> 01:30:40,059
they're merely wires and lights in a box.
1728
01:30:42,353 --> 01:30:43,688
There is a great...
1729
01:30:44,981 --> 01:30:48,234
and perhaps decisive battle to be fought,
1730
01:30:49,902 --> 01:30:51,696
against ignorance,
1731
01:30:52,446 --> 01:30:53,906
intolerance,
1732
01:30:55,116 --> 01:30:56,409
indifference.
1733
01:30:59,203 --> 01:31:02,165
It's a fight for the very soul
of this Republic.
1734
01:31:04,458 --> 01:31:06,627
And so the question is a very simple one.
1735
01:31:08,004 --> 01:31:13,092
Not what power unchecked can do.
We have seen that answer.
1736
01:31:14,260 --> 01:31:15,344
No.
1737
01:31:17,180 --> 01:31:18,681
The question is...
1738
01:31:20,391 --> 01:31:22,560
what are you prepared to do?
1739
01:31:49,754 --> 01:31:51,547
The fault, dear Brutus...
1740
01:32:01,182 --> 01:32:02,850
Good night,
1741
01:32:02,934 --> 01:32:04,101
and good luck.
1742
01:32:05,311 --> 01:32:08,481
1743
01:32:45,017 --> 01:32:48,938
1744
01:32:52,775 --> 01:32:56,362
♪ Let's take a boat to Bermuda ♪
1745
01:32:56,445 --> 01:32:59,949
♪ Let's take a plane to Saint Paul ♪
1746
01:33:00,032 --> 01:33:03,953
♪ Let's grab a kayak to Quincy Or Nyack ♪
1747
01:33:04,036 --> 01:33:07,164
♪ Let's get away from it all ♪
1748
01:33:07,248 --> 01:33:10,668
♪ Let's take a trip in a trailer ♪
1749
01:33:10,751 --> 01:33:14,380
{\an8}♪ No need to come back at all ♪
1750
01:33:14,463 --> 01:33:18,342
♪ Let's take a powder
To Boston for chowder ♪
1751
01:33:18,426 --> 01:33:21,304
♪ Let's get away from it all ♪
1752
01:33:21,387 --> 01:33:25,182
♪ We'll travel 'round from town to town ♪
1753
01:33:25,266 --> 01:33:28,227
♪ We'll visit every state ♪
1754
01:33:29,603 --> 01:33:32,481
♪ I'll repeat that I love you sweet! ♪
1755
01:33:32,565 --> 01:33:35,776
♪ In all the forty-eight ♪
1756
01:33:36,902 --> 01:33:40,114
♪ Let's take a boat to Bermuda ♪
1757
01:33:40,197 --> 01:33:43,951
♪ This time we'll keep dig the Fall ♪
1758
01:33:44,035 --> 01:33:47,747
-♪ Let's leave our hut, dear ♪
-♪ Get out of our rut, dear ♪
1759
01:33:47,830 --> 01:33:51,292
♪ Let's get away, love ♪
1760
01:33:51,375 --> 01:33:54,962
♪ Let's fly away, love ♪
1761
01:33:55,046 --> 01:34:00,885
♪ Let's get away from it all ♪
1762
01:34:17,693 --> 01:34:19,028
1763
01:34:19,111 --> 01:34:20,237
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