All language subtitles for All Rise S03E04 Trouble Man

Previously on All Rise. You were working
for my campaign. It looked like you

were trying to buy votes. Oh.

Bo is right.

Emily Lopez working for the biggest pro
bono law firm in the world? No pressure.

None. The Southland Women's Reentry
Center. Many women live there with their

children. Louise and Harry Collins.

What's happening? You must be Charlotte
Collins.

Excuse me, you can't just make that. I
will, I will, I will, I will.

Oh,

what is your daddy doing?

You know that babies tend to stop
wearing diapers before the age of four,

You got enough pampers in there to last
baby until her senior prom.

Very funny.

Robin Taylor, you have got our home
looking like a wholesale warehouse with

these coupons.

So would you prefer I not pay lower than
low, low prices?

All right, start talking.

Who's your supplier?

I get my coupons from Nancy.

Nancy Adler from your little mommy
social club?

Nancy's got you all hopped up. On deals
and discounts, yes.

You're welcome.

Wait a minute.

I think I know what's going on here.

You think I'm jealous?

No. No.

I gotta get to work.

Anything new on the Sherry assistant
drama?

Sherry kept her word.

She transferred to Delgado's courtroom.

But... I have already decided that she
ain't going out like that.

All right.

Handle your business.

Good day, sir.

Goodbye, Jamie.

Oh, wait, wait.

I got you a value sausage biscuit for
your car ride.

I don't want your little discount
biscuit.

Thank you.

Okay, I'll leave it.

Bye!

Damn, did that just happen? Did Mark
Callen just outrun Luke Watkins?

Dude, did Mark Callen just require us in
third person?

Because Watkins really hates that. So
what's your excuse? What, you got a

in your shoe, didn't get enough sleep
last night? What's up? Oh, that and I

haven't worked out in a while.

How about you?

Yeah, I'm having my share of sleepless
nights.

It's not every day you...

Go up against your buddy in a murder
trial.

Let's make a pact.

We keep up our weekly jobs as you.

No matter who wins. No matter who loses.

Deal.

Like the saying goes, bros before
litigation.

Bros before litigation.

Hey, no fair, man. You're getting a head
start.

I've got a new trick.

Guaranteed to knock your Bobby socks
off. Zachary, I am not in the mood. You

know, I'm good with the 101 tricks you
showed me over the weekend.

Oh, girl, real quick.

Now, do you have a quarter?

No. Okay, I have one right here.

Okay, so what I'm going to do, I'm going
to take this quarter and magically put

it inside of this balloon.

When it happens, it's going to
instantaneously turn into a bunch of

Yeah? So you're going to be my
assistant.

You hold this.

There you go.

Oh, my God. Zachary, what the hell?

I'm so sorry. You know, it appears that
I purchased a confetti bomb version by

mistake. Okay, you want one of those
cute little vacuum things? You get away.

Where'd the corner go?

All right, Kansky, this is how it's
going down. You're coming back to my

at least for the weekend. If you want to
leave after that, then fine.

But for right now, it's you and me. So
snatch up your hot tea, gather your

little meditation crystals, and be in my
courtroom before they start calling

morning calendar.

Got it?

Good.

Fine.

But I'm bringing this chair with me.

What's happening today is an evidentiary
hearing.

The judge is going to rule on the motion
that I filed to throw out the

statements you gave to police. Look, I
know the strongest evidence the DA got

against me is about DNA, so I've been
reading up.

They say one to four percent of all DNA
matches are false. Carl, listen to me.

You need to tell the jury about all
that. There is this legal thing called

presumption of innocence.

I know.

Innocence will prove you guilty. Right.
It exists in theory.

But I promise you, from the moment that
you step in front of those jurors,

they're already pegging you as a... cold
-blooded murderer who shot a woman in

the head and dumped her body in a trash
bin.

But I can persuade them that their
preconceived notions are wrong, but I

you to stop fighting me.

Do you believe I'm innocent, Mr.
Watkins?

It doesn't matter, I think. No, no, no.
I need you to answer my question.

My job is to show how weak the
prosecution's case is against you.

only thing that matters.

And I was going to represent myself.

My sister said no. She told me it would
be stupid not to ask for a public

defender.

I don't want to be one of those guys
that gets old in prison before someone

finally proves they're innocent.

Please.

Please, Mr. Watkins.

I'm putting my life in your hands.

Today's calendar, Your Honor. Thank you,
Sherry.

Okay. Already working my last nerve.

It's just like it's been a hundred years
and we haven't even started the trial

yet. I just hate the thought of seeing
Mark and Luke go at each other's throats

in court.

I would posit that if the trial had gone
to someone like Lasky, the Punisher

would be eating Luke Watkins' life right
about now.

Lasky does have an appetite for new
public defendants, that's for sure.

I see your point.

See? That's why we work well together.
You're the yin and the yang.

Pain to my bones.

If you say so, Your Honor.

My sneaky husband of mine.

Knocked my favorite shea butter into my
briefcase.

He's a little thing.

Give me a minute.

Looks like the only reason he got me
this hand cream is because he had a

Does this man not think I'm worth full
price?

Emily?

Amy, hey.

Hi.

What are you doing here?

I mean, not that I mind the surprise
visit. Oh, wow. Okay.

Okay, so I ran into Ness in court, and I
mentioned that there's still no desk

available for me at Free Counsel
Initiative.

And Ness offered you Rachel's office
until she gets back.

Obviously, without your knowledge. I am
so sorry. I can find some place off,

honestly. No, absolutely not.

Her instincts are spot on.

I would have invited you myself.

I really, really appreciate it.

So, what case are you working on?

Charlotte Collins.

Single mom in the country on a green
card.

She caught a mayhem case and I got it
reduced to felony false imprisonment.

So she is set up at the reentry center
on probation, but DCFS still took her

kids. When's the hearing?

In a couple days.

I dropped the ball.

I should have been in front of this. You
were focused on keeping Charlotte out

of custody and in the country.

And you did exactly that.

And? You will get her kids back, too.

In the meantime, make yourself at home.

Thank you so much. You're welcome.

Olani Brodnack, am I pronouncing that
correctly?

Yes. You were a stenographer at Elite
Deposition Solutions, Riverside County

Superior Court.

Oh, goodness.

Excuse me? It's strong.

Very, very strong.

My boss, Gabe, it is a little strong,
isn't it? No, dear. Your energy is

I feel it emanating from your aura.

You see, I'm a psychic.

I'm looking for this job as a court
reporter to supplement my income.

Oh. I found someone well above your pay
grade seeking your forgiveness.

Oh, someone very close to you.

Oh, you are not going to win me over
that easily.

What's that, dear?

Miss Holani Broadnax.

Welcome to courtroom 802.

Of course.

Did you know that was coming?

I saw that, too.

Hi, um, Darius?

Hi, I'm Sarah Castillo. I'm the victim's
advocate assigned to this case.

Oh, right, right. I had time, Ms.
Castillo. Oh, no, please call me Sarah.

Um... Uh, sorry, um, you'll have to
excuse my appearance.

Anyway, I'm here to offer any support I
can. I also want to offer my

condolences. You know, I know it must be
tough sitting through this trial and

hearing all the details. With all due
respect, Ms. Castile, my mom was the

victim, not me.

So I'm going to head in there now.

Oh, yeah, yes, please.

Did you pick up Brenda Fletcher from the
bar she worked at?

You know, maybe I should get a lawyer.

I keep telling you I didn't kill nobody.
We found your DNA on her dead body,

Carl. It's like your signature is all
over her corpse.

Thank you, Judge.

Very well, Mr. Watkins. I will hear you
one last time before I rule in the

evidence. Your Honor, detectives
relentlessly interrogated Carl Brewer

continuous hours. He was not in his
right state of mind. Even more

his statements were made involuntarily.
He continuously asked the detectives for

an attorney, and they denied it. Your
Honor, the techniques used by the

detectives during the interrogation were
not coercive. And for Mr. Watkins to

suggest otherwise, look, I'll borrow one
of his own dramatic terms here,

outrageous.

Mr. Brewer clearly stated that he
understood he had a right to retain

counsel, and yet he never definitively
asked for an attorney. He waived his

Miranda rights. Absolutely did not.
Stop.

I'm ready to rule.

Mr. Watkins, as to your motion to
suppress Mr. Brewer's statement...

I believe detectives had an affirmative
duty to confirm whether Mr. Brewer was

exercising his right against self
-incrimination. With all due respect,

Honor, the law says that officers do not
have to clarify... It's good police

practice to do so. I believe that
detectives should have asked further

to clarify.

I'm granting the defense's motion to
suppress.

Now, as for the people's 402 motion,
relevance regarding the defendant's

condition, Mr.

Callen. It is your position that the
jury should not hear Mr. Brewer suffers

from acute myeloid leukemia, correct?

Yes, Your Honor. It's clear the defense
is only trying to gain the jury's

sympathy by mentioning that Mr. Brewer
had suffered from leukemia his entire

adult life. He would not have the
physical ability nor the energy to

a murder. Well, it doesn't take much vim
and vigor to pull a trigger, Your

Honor. The victim wasn't just shot. Her
hair was ripped out. It's the people's

position. Her body dumped like trash.
That takes energy. energy that Mr.

did not have. Mr. Watkins, take a
breath.

I find that the defense as a proponent
of the evidence regarding your client's

current medical condition has not met
its burden.

The probative value of your client's
medical condition is outweighed by the

of undue prejudice.

I agree with the people that this
evidence would elicit more sympathy than

would tend to disprove identity.

My client has an absolute constitutional
right to present a defense. But not

with inadmissible evidence. I have
excluded the evidence on 352 grounds and

not interrupt me again.

I apologize, Your Honor.

The trial will begin in a couple days.

Good morning, Your Honor.

I'm hoping it will be.

Tea for you, two for me.

Oh, I might need to triple up on the
caffeine. I did so much tossing and

last night. Is it the trial?

If the evidentiary hearing is any
indication, it's about to get brutal out

there. This must be an immense amount of
pressure for Luke. I can't think of any

new PD who got a murder case so soon.

He has come a long way in a short amount
of time, Your Honor.

Sherry, how are you and I doing?

Are we making any bit of progress here?

Your Honor, I will be returning to Judge
Delgado's court on Monday.

I want to see my kids! And now!

Ma 'am, calm down.

Don't tell me to calm down!

Ma 'am. Charlotte?

Hey. I have been looking all over town
for you. Louise is sick.

They say she's in the hospital, but they
won't tell me where.

Where is my daughter?

You need to get her out of here. I got
it. Thank you. Charlotte, look at me.

Your daughter is fine. I spoke to the
doctor after the re -entry center called

me. She is fine.

She had an ear infection.

She's okay.

She's okay.

I need to see my children.

I understand.

But right now, we need to get you back
to the center because you cannot afford

to.

Officer, hi. We had a young lady who was
distraught, but it's fine. I'm her

attorney. We need to talk to her. Okay,
look. She found out her kid was sick,

and she can't. All right? We are on our
way out right now. I promise.

A murder trial of 56 -year -old Carl
Brewer begins in about an hour. The

forklift operator is accused of shooting
a woman to death.

This morning, the victim's 20 -year -old
son... I join you with someone today

who is concerned about the dangerous
effects of under -policing in our

communities.

So many women in the past three decades
have gone missing or been murdered. The

case is unsolved. So in the spirit of
calling for justice for my mom...

And other women, I ask that you join me
in saying their names.

Sheila James.

Harriet Boyd.

Martina Sanchez.

I'm not saying I disagree.

I just wonder if the push for more
policing doesn't get lost behind the

for defunding the police. Police reform
can walk the fine line between

maintaining public safety and decreasing
police brutality.

This murder trial I'm handling right now
has me thinking about all of it.

Clearly, black and brown communities are
suffering the worst of it. The problem

is either aggressive policing or not
enough policing.

Or both. You know, it's a complex issue.
And one which probably isn't going to

be solved over coffee and fruit in the
judge's lounge.

Oh, here we go. I'll say this. Most
police officers in this country...

are selfless, patriotic citizens.

No one's disputing that.

Yes, we must curtail the authority for
police officers to use deadly force, but

not to the extent that their actions are
frozen when confronting violent crime.

Since you chimed in with the pitch of
the problem, why don't you hit us with a

solution? I'll hit you with several. De
-escalation training.

Tearing down of the blue wall of
silence, which protects abuse of

More effective training for police
officers dealing with crisis

want to bring this back around to the
dangers of under -policing.

Grassroots organizations have long
offered up solutions to these issues.

Real progress would be city and police
leaders sitting down with them. Not just

every other quarter.

And that's something on which we all
agree.

And not bad.

We should have this chat every week.

We'll be here.

Jimmy Sims.

That's me.

Luke Watkins. We consulted on the Brewer
case over the phone. I was supposed to

meet you here. Oh, yeah.

Forgive me.

Most days, I don't know if I'm coming or
going. But right now, I am going. I'm

sorry. I've got to get to trial. I just
need two seconds.

Have you found any discrepancies in how
the police collected the evidence?

Uh, compromised DNA, contamination
testing issues.

I haven't spotted any inconsistencies.

We may not find any, Mr. Watkins. That's
just the reality.

Trust me, I've seen DNA specimen
techniques as messed up as a Hogan's

Hmm, but not here.

If you could just take another look at
the case while I fit you.

I'll try and grab some time over the
next couple days.

Great. I will call you.

I will call you.

There were rope burns on the victim's
wrists.

And we could see that a lock of her hair
had been ripped from the scalp.

And where did you apprehend the suspect?

In the backyard of his home. He never
asked why he was being arrested, which I

found odd.

No. Did he even say that? A few more
follow -up questions about the bullet

casing you found in the alley. What kind
of bullet was it? The casing we found

was from a silver -colored 9mm bullet.
It's a very particular piece of ammo.

And what more did you find?

Using the automated firearm system, we
were able to find out that Mr. Brewer

owns a 9mm.

He's lying.

I'm telling you to, Jack. And I'm
telling you to be cool. And of course,

the shell casing found at the scene, we
determined that Mr. Brewer owns the same

type of gun used to murder the victim.

Thank you, Detective Blair.

Mr. Watkins.

You led a search of Mr. Brewer's home,
correct?

Correct. But you didn't find any
firearms in the house, correct?

As I already stated, we knew Mr. Brewer
had the same type of gun.

Is that yes or no?

No, we didn't find a gun.

In fact, Mr. Brewer filed a report years
ago that a 9mm gun that he owned was

stolen, isn't that right?

Correct. It's funny, I didn't hear you
tell the prosecution that.

Objection. Withdrawn.

Did you find any of Mr. Brewer's DNA in
the alley where you believe Mrs.

Fletcher was shot to death?

Just Mr.

Brewer's DNA on her body.

And you testified earlier that you
didn't find any scratches, bruises, or

on Mr. Brewer, correct?

Correct. Yet you found, or you say you
found, his DNA under the victim's

fingernails? Right. Again, I stated that
I personally didn't observe any

injuries on your client. That doesn't
mean he didn't have any. That's all,

Honor.

Redirects, Mr. Cameron?

No, Your Honor.

Your Honor, I'd like to address the
court.

I'd like to fire my lawyer. Excuse me,
bailiff. Remove this man from my

courtroom. Mr. Watkins is not following
any of my directions. I demand new

counsel. Members of the jury, we will
take a break.

Disregard Mr.

Brewer's statement. I demand new
counsel. Mr. Watkins, you need to

client. Mr. Watkins is not adequate for
my defense.

My Sixth Amendment right to effective
counsel is being violated.

You showed a lack of respect for this
court, for counsel, and most

significantly, for the jury.

Any more outbursts like that, and I will
have you removed for the rest of trial.

Am I clear?

Yes, Your Honor.

I will say I considered your request for
new counsel, and since you did not make

this request before trial began, and we
are already deep into testimony, I am

denying your request for a margin
hearing.

I know Mr. Watkins well.

And he is an excellent attorney. It
would behoove you to trust him in

representing you.

We will pick up again tomorrow morning.

Bailiff? Thank you, Your Honor.

I miss my kids.

I know you do.

But you get to see the judge tomorrow.

I'll be right there with you.

I'm a screw -up.

The judge is going to know that.

Well, then you must be screw -up number
two because I hold the title.

Oh, no.

You should have seen me when I was a
teenager.

You could not tell me anything.

I had all the answers. I knew it all. If
there was a rule, I broke it. I spent

time in juvie.

You were in juvie?

Mm -hmm.

I turned things around for myself.

Look at you now.

A lawyer.

And look at you.

A fearless mom who has raised two
beautiful, amazing kids on her own. That

doesn't look like a screw -up to me.

Can I tell you something?

Yeah.

They tried to take away my kids before I
came to the States.

Sherry? Oh, what are we calling her? It
looks like our new stenographer slash

psychic has her in her keep. She
predicted that an admirer would give me

and here it is.

A gift card to Psycho City. Someone just
left it on my desk.

Sherry, Robin actually got me that gift
card. It must have fallen out of my bag,

and someone accidentally placed it on
your desk. No, no, no, no, no.

Sherry, you keep it. No, thank you. It's
yours.

Come on, Sherry. When would I even have
the time?

I suggest you make the time, Your Honor.

Mr. Watkins, I'm sorry to disturb you.
I'm Carl, Mr.

Mildred. I met you when you first took
on his case. Yes, I remember.

I'm so sorry about my brother's outburst
today in court. That should not have

happened. Please.

Have a seat.

He has had challenges his whole life.

When we were kids, Carl got into a lot
of trouble.

I've been trying my whole life to
restore him to Christ.

It may be true he's trapped in sin, but
my brother is not a murderer.

You said that your grandparents raised
you, too? What happened to your parents?

Mama. Well, she had a hard time.

No.

Well, it's fine.

I think about how sick my brother was
with leukemia and everything.

I was his only caretaker after our
grandparents passed.

I've seen that cancer come and go and
come back again.

But because of God's grace and mercy,

My brother is still here.

I go to Howard University.

Mom helped me enroll using some
religious money.

She sounds like a wonderful lady.

When I was a kid, my mom, she had this
tattoo on her arm, her favorite Bible

verse. And I'm a much more religious guy
myself, but I wanted to do something

special to remember her by, so I
actually ended up getting the same

Love does not delight in evil, but
rejoices with the truth.

That's a beautiful verse and a great
tribute to your mom.

Thank you.

you put your mind to. If you see it, you
can achieve it.

Let's go. Excuse me.

Lola Carmichael?

Yeah? I'm Officer Bernard, my partner,
Officer Cohen.

Would you like to talk about the gift
card you used for this class?

Would you come with us, please?

Yeah.

Okay, people, focus up. Big hill.

Three, two, one, push.

Tomorrow, the prosecution will call more
witnesses, including the criminalists

that work with investigators on your
case. Let me guess.

You grew up in an upper -middle -class
home, went to one of them highfalutin

private schools, probably only dated
rich white women, huh?

Your mommy and daddy spoil you rotten, I
can tell.

Look, Carl, I get it.

I get that you had it rough growing up.
Your sister, she told me about you.

The troubles you face.

It's a lot.

Your father's on time like that.

Your mom leaving you with your
grandparents.

Don't talk about my mother.

You understand?

Don't ever talk about her.

It's okay, Debbie.

Just give us a minute, please.

I don't know if my sister told you, but
after our mother left, she came back

years later when she found out about my
cancer.

She was a match when she wanted to
donate her bone marrow.

And I was so happy. My mama came back to
save me.

Then she took off again right before my
surgery.

I never knew why.

All I knew was my mama had left me a
second time.

She left me.

That bitch left me to die.

Thanks for showing up. You think I
wouldn't? I wasn't.

Can I ask you a question?

You ever worry about charging the wrong
guy with murder?

Just curious.

I tend to worry about the guilty guy
getting away with it.

Look,

I've been doing this long enough to know
that restorative justice doesn't work

for everybody.

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

I can't tell you everything, but we are
learning new information.

New information like? I can't tell you.
Are you planning to drop a bombshell in

trial? This has nothing to do with
trial, Luke.

And maybe I shouldn't have said
anything, but I am. But you sure as hell

I'm giving you a heads up that there is
something coming down the pike.

Okay? And there might be more to Carl
Brewer than you think.

You know what I think, Callan?

I think this is you trying to get into
my head, knock me off my game, because

your case.

is getting weaker by the minute, and you
cannot handle the thought of losing to

a public defender in his first murder
trial. Are you serious right now? Your

can't handle it, Calum. Wow, man. Okay.

I'll see you in court.

Bailey's down.

Mm -hmm.

Thank you, husband.

You're welcome, wife.

Rough day, huh, babe?

Well, at least they didn't throw you in
the clink.

You should have let me come down and
help you.

No, it was fine once I explained
everything to the officers. The point

embarrassed in front of my entire spin
class because of your little girlfriend,

Nancy.

I can't believe that gift card she gave
you was counterfeit.

Nancy, a wanted scammer.

I didn't see that one coming.

Yeah, I'm as surprised as you are, Mr.
FBI agent.

Guess this puts a huge dent in me and
Nancy's relationship.

It's too soon, Robin.

It's too soon.

I'm sorry, baby.

Guess I've got some making up to do. Mm
-hmm.

But this prime rib feast?

It's a good start. It looks delicious.

Wait.

Did you buy this dinner with one of
Nancy's coupons?

I paid the fifth year honor.

Are you kidding?

I live with my brother in his very
crowded home. Of course I was coming.

Congrats on a new place, Em. I'm happy
for you.

Thank you.

I mean, I move in a week or so, and I
just, I cannot wait.

Well, I look forward to my invitation to
the housewarming.

Well, I look forward to having you.

So what's up with this new adventure of
yours they call holistic law?

I... Told you about the case I'm
working.

I'm a mom trying to get our kids back.

She's young, you know, and she's had a
really tough life. She shared some stuff

with me about some things she
experienced that was extremely

Then you share that with the judge. If
the judge is empathetic.

It's Judge Taylor.

Judge Nina Taylor. I appeared before him
before he was transferred over to

juvenile court. I'm not going to lie. He
was tough.

Great. Maybe think about holding your
most compelling argument to the very end

right before he rules. That worked for
me.

Duly noted.

So, Luke Wacky.

What's up with this new adventure of
yours they call public defense?

I'm not going to lie.

It's been tough.

The trial, Callan, my client. He shares
something

very painful with me today about his
mother.

I could feel the misery that he was
living with.

Haunted he was. It was almost

like I could

feel that misery too.

Mr. Slims, thanks for getting back. Did
you have a chance to look at the case

file again?

Bottom line, the prosecution's saying
Carl Brewer's DNA and only his DNA was

found on this woman's body. A lot of it.
Like, too much to ignore.

You're going to have to argue something
else, but DNA is solid.

Hey, listen, I wanted to ask you again
about my client's transplant from 35

years ago. I thought you weren't allowed
to mention that in trial. I'm not

allowed to talk about my client's
current medical condition, but no one

can't refer to his medical history.

You're the lawyer.

Wait a minute.

What kind of transplant did you say your
client had?

I've heard all that I'm going to hear,
Ms. Lopez. I would just like to say one

more thing on behalf of Ms. Collins. She
recently shared with me something that

she experienced that was very tough for
her to handle back in British Columbia,

Canada, where she's from.

There was a certain practice called a
birth alert.

It allowed social workers to flag an
expecting parent without their consent

being unfit.

to care for their child.

Tell me how this relates to the case
before me. Yes, Your Honor. These birth

alerts were often issued without
regulation, disproportionately against

indigenous women, but also low -income
women like Charlotte.

In fact, she received them during both
of her pregnancies.

She spent years on the run for fear that
her children were going to be taken

from her.

Judge Taylor, please do not add to the
trauma that Charlotte has had to endure.

She is loving.

A loving mother.

Because she deserves to have her
children back.

Sherry, you are a lifesaver. You're
welcome, Your Honor.

It was a look, this incredulous look you
gave me at the public integrity

hearing, the same look you give to
guilty defendants before you sentence

And in that moment, it hit me.

The woman that I have come to respect,
idolize even, and care for?

Would think that I would steal half a
million dollars from her campaign.

And though I did nothing wrong, I carry
tremendous guilt.

As though I had somehow betrayed you.

And for that, I am angry.

It really hurt.

Sherry.

The look I gave you wasn't a look of
scorn. It was one of concern.

For the first time, something nefarious
had happened in my backyard.

And while I never, for one second,
believed that you had stolen that money,

someone in my camp did. And I was
worried sick about it.

So for what seemed like an accusatory
glance that I gave you, I am truly

sorry.

But this look, this look right here that
I'm giving you right now,

is a look.

Of admiration and appreciation and of
respect.

It is a look of love and of apology.

Thank you.

Ms. Collins.

You've missed court -mandated therapy
sessions. You've missed AA meetings.

You're someone who does not obey rules.

That is a problem.

Having said all that, I strongly believe
in a concerted effort to strengthen the

relationship between parents involved in
the system and their children.

Ms. Lopez is right. You've been through
a lot, and I'm convinced you never put

your children in harm's way.

I'm ruling that your children be
returned to you while you serve out the

of your plea agreement.

We found the blood for processing and we
found that the genetic profile

generated from the blood found on the
victim's body was consistent with Carl

Brewer's DNA profile.

Thank you.

Mr. Watkins?

Ms.

Reed, just to be clear, you told this
jury that the DNA from the victim and

DNA from my client matched to a
certainty of, what was it, 1 in 19

Correct. Right.

19 billion, that's a big number. Three
times the total population of humans on

the planet.

Even with that certainty, wouldn't you
say that there are circumstances in

DNA can change?

Change?

Possible, but extraordinarily rare.

I want to show you something.

Know what this is, Miss Reed?

It's a chimera.

A chimera? Comes from Greek mythology,
right?

Yes.

Fire -breathing monster, a hybrid
creature made up of three different

parts. A lion, the body of a goat, and a
snake's head for a tail.

Beautiful action. Your Honor, relevance.

Overruled. I want to see where this is
going.

But we're not talking about Greek
mythology, are we, Mrs. Reed? Tell us

beautiful creature connects to the
medical definition.

In medicine, chimera refers to a hybrid
human, someone who could be carrying two

totally different sets of DNA inside
their body.

So let's say if someone received a
procedure like, say, a bone marrow

transplant, that person could be a
chimera, yes?

They could be carrying two distinct sets
of DNA, one of the recipients and one

of the donor, right?

Sorry, I didn't hear you, Ms. Reed.
Human chimerism is rare.

Rare, yes, but it is possible under
these circumstances. Objection.

352 and Foundation.

Overruled. Continue, Mr. Watkins. Ms.
Reed, if you learned that Mr. Brewer had

bone marrow transplant, would that
change your opinion regarding the

of the DNA evidence?

Your Honor, marking Defense Exhibit W,
Carl Brewer's medical records from 1987

showing he received a bone marrow
transplant from the California Cancer

Organization. Your Honor.

objection on prior grounds. The defense
just violated the court's rulings to

prohibit the mention of the defendant's
medical record. The court didn't tell me

not to present evidence from a medical
procedure that my client received 35

years ago. Bay left to remove the jury.
I ask that the evidence be excluded and

that the jurors be instructed to
disregard it. Those records include the

medical records as well as the fact that
Mr. Brewer received a bone marrow

transplant. Watkins, are you serious
right now? I comply with the court's

discovery rules as well as the court's
402 ruling.

Counsel, you are both out of order. I
want to see you in my chambers now.