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Previously on All Rise. You were working for my campaign. It looked like you
were trying to buy votes. Oh.
Bo is right.
Emily Lopez working for the biggest pro bono law firm in the world? No pressure.
None. The Southland Women's Reentry Center. Many women live there with their
children. Louise and Harry Collins.
What's happening? You must be Charlotte Collins.
Excuse me, you can't just make that. I will, I will, I will, I will.
Oh,
what is your daddy doing?
You know that babies tend to stop wearing diapers before the age of four,
You got enough pampers in there to last baby until her senior prom.
Very funny.
Robin Taylor, you have got our home looking like a wholesale warehouse with
these coupons.
So would you prefer I not pay lower than low, low prices?
All right, start talking.
Who's your supplier?
I get my coupons from Nancy.
Nancy Adler from your little mommy social club?
Nancy's got you all hopped up. On deals and discounts, yes.
You're welcome.
Wait a minute.
I think I know what's going on here.
You think I'm jealous?
No. No.
I gotta get to work.
Anything new on the Sherry assistant drama?
Sherry kept her word.
She transferred to Delgado's courtroom.
But... I have already decided that she ain't going out like that.
All right.
Handle your business.
Good day, sir.
Goodbye, Jamie.
Oh, wait, wait.
I got you a value sausage biscuit for your car ride.
I don't want your little discount biscuit.
Thank you.
Okay, I'll leave it.
Bye!
Damn, did that just happen? Did Mark Callen just outrun Luke Watkins?
Dude, did Mark Callen just require us in third person?
Because Watkins really hates that. So what's your excuse? What, you got a
in your shoe, didn't get enough sleep last night? What's up? Oh, that and I
haven't worked out in a while.
How about you?
Yeah, I'm having my share of sleepless nights.
It's not every day you...
Go up against your buddy in a murder trial.
Let's make a pact.
We keep up our weekly jobs as you.
No matter who wins. No matter who loses.
Deal.
Like the saying goes, bros before litigation.
Bros before litigation.
Hey, no fair, man. You're getting a head start.
I've got a new trick.
Guaranteed to knock your Bobby socks off. Zachary, I am not in the mood. You
know, I'm good with the 101 tricks you showed me over the weekend.
Oh, girl, real quick.
Now, do you have a quarter?
No. Okay, I have one right here.
Okay, so what I'm going to do, I'm going to take this quarter and magically put
it inside of this balloon.
When it happens, it's going to instantaneously turn into a bunch of
Yeah? So you're going to be my assistant.
You hold this.
There you go.
Oh, my God. Zachary, what the hell?
I'm so sorry. You know, it appears that I purchased a confetti bomb version by
mistake. Okay, you want one of those cute little vacuum things? You get away.
Where'd the corner go?
All right, Kansky, this is how it's going down. You're coming back to my
at least for the weekend. If you want to leave after that, then fine.
But for right now, it's you and me. So snatch up your hot tea, gather your
little meditation crystals, and be in my courtroom before they start calling
morning calendar.
Got it?
Good.
Fine.
But I'm bringing this chair with me.
What's happening today is an evidentiary hearing.
The judge is going to rule on the motion that I filed to throw out the
statements you gave to police. Look, I know the strongest evidence the DA got
against me is about DNA, so I've been reading up.
They say one to four percent of all DNA matches are false. Carl, listen to me.
You need to tell the jury about all that. There is this legal thing called
presumption of innocence.
I know.
Innocence will prove you guilty. Right. It exists in theory.
But I promise you, from the moment that you step in front of those jurors,
they're already pegging you as a... cold -blooded murderer who shot a woman in
the head and dumped her body in a trash bin.
But I can persuade them that their preconceived notions are wrong, but I
you to stop fighting me.
Do you believe I'm innocent, Mr. Watkins?
It doesn't matter, I think. No, no, no. I need you to answer my question.
My job is to show how weak the prosecution's case is against you.
only thing that matters.
And I was going to represent myself.
My sister said no. She told me it would be stupid not to ask for a public
defender.
I don't want to be one of those guys that gets old in prison before someone
finally proves they're innocent.
Please.
Please, Mr. Watkins.
I'm putting my life in your hands.
Today's calendar, Your Honor. Thank you, Sherry.
Okay. Already working my last nerve.
It's just like it's been a hundred years and we haven't even started the trial
yet. I just hate the thought of seeing Mark and Luke go at each other's throats
in court.
I would posit that if the trial had gone to someone like Lasky, the Punisher
would be eating Luke Watkins' life right about now.
Lasky does have an appetite for new public defendants, that's for sure.
I see your point.
See? That's why we work well together. You're the yin and the yang.
Pain to my bones.
If you say so, Your Honor.
My sneaky husband of mine.
Knocked my favorite shea butter into my briefcase.
He's a little thing.
Give me a minute.
Looks like the only reason he got me this hand cream is because he had a
Does this man not think I'm worth full price?
Emily?
Amy, hey.
Hi.
What are you doing here?
I mean, not that I mind the surprise visit. Oh, wow. Okay.
Okay, so I ran into Ness in court, and I mentioned that there's still no desk
available for me at Free Counsel Initiative.
And Ness offered you Rachel's office until she gets back.
Obviously, without your knowledge. I am so sorry. I can find some place off,
honestly. No, absolutely not.
Her instincts are spot on.
I would have invited you myself.
I really, really appreciate it.
So, what case are you working on?
Charlotte Collins.
Single mom in the country on a green card.
She caught a mayhem case and I got it reduced to felony false imprisonment.
So she is set up at the reentry center on probation, but DCFS still took her
kids. When's the hearing?
In a couple days.
I dropped the ball.
I should have been in front of this. You were focused on keeping Charlotte out
of custody and in the country.
And you did exactly that.
And? You will get her kids back, too.
In the meantime, make yourself at home.
Thank you so much. You're welcome.
Olani Brodnack, am I pronouncing that correctly?
Yes. You were a stenographer at Elite Deposition Solutions, Riverside County
Superior Court.
Oh, goodness.
Excuse me? It's strong.
Very, very strong.
My boss, Gabe, it is a little strong, isn't it? No, dear. Your energy is
I feel it emanating from your aura.
You see, I'm a psychic.
I'm looking for this job as a court reporter to supplement my income.
Oh. I found someone well above your pay grade seeking your forgiveness.
Oh, someone very close to you.
Oh, you are not going to win me over that easily.
What's that, dear?
Miss Holani Broadnax.
Welcome to courtroom 802.
Of course.
Did you know that was coming?
I saw that, too.
Hi, um, Darius?
Hi, I'm Sarah Castillo. I'm the victim's advocate assigned to this case.
Oh, right, right. I had time, Ms. Castillo. Oh, no, please call me Sarah.
Um... Uh, sorry, um, you'll have to excuse my appearance.
Anyway, I'm here to offer any support I can. I also want to offer my
condolences. You know, I know it must be tough sitting through this trial and
hearing all the details. With all due respect, Ms. Castile, my mom was the
victim, not me.
So I'm going to head in there now.
Oh, yeah, yes, please.
Did you pick up Brenda Fletcher from the bar she worked at?
You know, maybe I should get a lawyer.
I keep telling you I didn't kill nobody. We found your DNA on her dead body,
Carl. It's like your signature is all over her corpse.
Thank you, Judge.
Very well, Mr. Watkins. I will hear you one last time before I rule in the
evidence. Your Honor, detectives relentlessly interrogated Carl Brewer
continuous hours. He was not in his right state of mind. Even more
his statements were made involuntarily. He continuously asked the detectives for
an attorney, and they denied it. Your Honor, the techniques used by the
detectives during the interrogation were not coercive. And for Mr. Watkins to
suggest otherwise, look, I'll borrow one of his own dramatic terms here,
outrageous.
Mr. Brewer clearly stated that he understood he had a right to retain
counsel, and yet he never definitively asked for an attorney. He waived his
Miranda rights. Absolutely did not. Stop.
I'm ready to rule.
Mr. Watkins, as to your motion to suppress Mr. Brewer's statement...
I believe detectives had an affirmative duty to confirm whether Mr. Brewer was
exercising his right against self -incrimination. With all due respect,
Honor, the law says that officers do not have to clarify... It's good police
practice to do so. I believe that detectives should have asked further
to clarify.
I'm granting the defense's motion to suppress.
Now, as for the people's 402 motion, relevance regarding the defendant's
condition, Mr.
Callen. It is your position that the jury should not hear Mr. Brewer suffers
from acute myeloid leukemia, correct?
Yes, Your Honor. It's clear the defense is only trying to gain the jury's
sympathy by mentioning that Mr. Brewer had suffered from leukemia his entire
adult life. He would not have the physical ability nor the energy to
a murder. Well, it doesn't take much vim and vigor to pull a trigger, Your
Honor. The victim wasn't just shot. Her hair was ripped out. It's the people's
position. Her body dumped like trash. That takes energy. energy that Mr.
did not have. Mr. Watkins, take a breath.
I find that the defense as a proponent of the evidence regarding your client's
current medical condition has not met its burden.
The probative value of your client's medical condition is outweighed by the
of undue prejudice.
I agree with the people that this evidence would elicit more sympathy than
would tend to disprove identity.
My client has an absolute constitutional right to present a defense. But not
with inadmissible evidence. I have excluded the evidence on 352 grounds and
not interrupt me again.
I apologize, Your Honor.
The trial will begin in a couple days.
Good morning, Your Honor.
I'm hoping it will be.
Tea for you, two for me.
Oh, I might need to triple up on the caffeine. I did so much tossing and
last night. Is it the trial?
If the evidentiary hearing is any indication, it's about to get brutal out
there. This must be an immense amount of pressure for Luke. I can't think of any
new PD who got a murder case so soon.
He has come a long way in a short amount of time, Your Honor.
Sherry, how are you and I doing?
Are we making any bit of progress here?
Your Honor, I will be returning to Judge Delgado's court on Monday.
I want to see my kids! And now!
Ma 'am, calm down.
Don't tell me to calm down!
Ma 'am. Charlotte?
Hey. I have been looking all over town for you. Louise is sick.
They say she's in the hospital, but they won't tell me where.
Where is my daughter?
You need to get her out of here. I got it. Thank you. Charlotte, look at me.
Your daughter is fine. I spoke to the doctor after the re -entry center called
me. She is fine.
She had an ear infection.
She's okay.
She's okay.
I need to see my children.
I understand.
But right now, we need to get you back to the center because you cannot afford
to.
Officer, hi. We had a young lady who was distraught, but it's fine. I'm her
attorney. We need to talk to her. Okay, look. She found out her kid was sick,
and she can't. All right? We are on our way out right now. I promise.
A murder trial of 56 -year -old Carl Brewer begins in about an hour. The
forklift operator is accused of shooting a woman to death.
This morning, the victim's 20 -year -old son... I join you with someone today
who is concerned about the dangerous effects of under -policing in our
communities.
So many women in the past three decades have gone missing or been murdered. The
case is unsolved. So in the spirit of calling for justice for my mom...
And other women, I ask that you join me in saying their names.
Sheila James.
Harriet Boyd.
Martina Sanchez.
I'm not saying I disagree.
I just wonder if the push for more policing doesn't get lost behind the
for defunding the police. Police reform can walk the fine line between
maintaining public safety and decreasing police brutality.
This murder trial I'm handling right now has me thinking about all of it.
Clearly, black and brown communities are suffering the worst of it. The problem
is either aggressive policing or not enough policing.
Or both. You know, it's a complex issue. And one which probably isn't going to
be solved over coffee and fruit in the judge's lounge.
Oh, here we go. I'll say this. Most police officers in this country...
are selfless, patriotic citizens.
No one's disputing that.
Yes, we must curtail the authority for police officers to use deadly force, but
not to the extent that their actions are frozen when confronting violent crime.
Since you chimed in with the pitch of the problem, why don't you hit us with a
solution? I'll hit you with several. De -escalation training.
Tearing down of the blue wall of silence, which protects abuse of
More effective training for police officers dealing with crisis
want to bring this back around to the dangers of under -policing.
Grassroots organizations have long offered up solutions to these issues.
Real progress would be city and police leaders sitting down with them. Not just
every other quarter.
And that's something on which we all agree.
And not bad.
We should have this chat every week.
We'll be here.
Jimmy Sims.
That's me.
Luke Watkins. We consulted on the Brewer case over the phone. I was supposed to
meet you here. Oh, yeah.
Forgive me.
Most days, I don't know if I'm coming or going. But right now, I am going. I'm
sorry. I've got to get to trial. I just need two seconds.
Have you found any discrepancies in how the police collected the evidence?
Uh, compromised DNA, contamination testing issues.
I haven't spotted any inconsistencies.
We may not find any, Mr. Watkins. That's just the reality.
Trust me, I've seen DNA specimen techniques as messed up as a Hogan's
Hmm, but not here.
If you could just take another look at the case while I fit you.
I'll try and grab some time over the next couple days.
Great. I will call you.
I will call you.
There were rope burns on the victim's wrists.
And we could see that a lock of her hair had been ripped from the scalp.
And where did you apprehend the suspect?
In the backyard of his home. He never asked why he was being arrested, which I
found odd.
No. Did he even say that? A few more follow -up questions about the bullet
casing you found in the alley. What kind of bullet was it? The casing we found
was from a silver -colored 9mm bullet. It's a very particular piece of ammo.
And what more did you find?
Using the automated firearm system, we were able to find out that Mr. Brewer
owns a 9mm.
He's lying.
I'm telling you to, Jack. And I'm telling you to be cool. And of course,
the shell casing found at the scene, we determined that Mr. Brewer owns the same
type of gun used to murder the victim.
Thank you, Detective Blair.
Mr. Watkins.
You led a search of Mr. Brewer's home, correct?
Correct. But you didn't find any firearms in the house, correct?
As I already stated, we knew Mr. Brewer had the same type of gun.
Is that yes or no?
No, we didn't find a gun.
In fact, Mr. Brewer filed a report years ago that a 9mm gun that he owned was
stolen, isn't that right?
Correct. It's funny, I didn't hear you tell the prosecution that.
Objection. Withdrawn.
Did you find any of Mr. Brewer's DNA in the alley where you believe Mrs.
Fletcher was shot to death?
Just Mr.
Brewer's DNA on her body.
And you testified earlier that you didn't find any scratches, bruises, or
on Mr. Brewer, correct?
Correct. Yet you found, or you say you found, his DNA under the victim's
fingernails? Right. Again, I stated that I personally didn't observe any
injuries on your client. That doesn't mean he didn't have any. That's all,
Honor.
Redirects, Mr. Cameron?
No, Your Honor.
Your Honor, I'd like to address the court.
I'd like to fire my lawyer. Excuse me, bailiff. Remove this man from my
courtroom. Mr. Watkins is not following any of my directions. I demand new
counsel. Members of the jury, we will take a break.
Disregard Mr.
Brewer's statement. I demand new counsel. Mr. Watkins, you need to
client. Mr. Watkins is not adequate for my defense.
My Sixth Amendment right to effective counsel is being violated.
You showed a lack of respect for this court, for counsel, and most
significantly, for the jury.
Any more outbursts like that, and I will have you removed for the rest of trial.
Am I clear?
Yes, Your Honor.
I will say I considered your request for new counsel, and since you did not make
this request before trial began, and we are already deep into testimony, I am
denying your request for a margin hearing.
I know Mr. Watkins well.
And he is an excellent attorney. It would behoove you to trust him in
representing you.
We will pick up again tomorrow morning.
Bailiff? Thank you, Your Honor.
I miss my kids.
I know you do.
But you get to see the judge tomorrow.
I'll be right there with you.
I'm a screw -up.
The judge is going to know that.
Well, then you must be screw -up number two because I hold the title.
Oh, no.
You should have seen me when I was a teenager.
You could not tell me anything.
I had all the answers. I knew it all. If there was a rule, I broke it. I spent
time in juvie.
You were in juvie?
Mm -hmm.
I turned things around for myself.
Look at you now.
A lawyer.
And look at you.
A fearless mom who has raised two beautiful, amazing kids on her own. That
doesn't look like a screw -up to me.
Can I tell you something?
Yeah.
They tried to take away my kids before I came to the States.
Sherry? Oh, what are we calling her? It looks like our new stenographer slash
psychic has her in her keep. She predicted that an admirer would give me
and here it is.
A gift card to Psycho City. Someone just left it on my desk.
Sherry, Robin actually got me that gift card. It must have fallen out of my bag,
and someone accidentally placed it on your desk. No, no, no, no, no.
Sherry, you keep it. No, thank you. It's yours.
Come on, Sherry. When would I even have the time?
I suggest you make the time, Your Honor.
Mr. Watkins, I'm sorry to disturb you. I'm Carl, Mr.
Mildred. I met you when you first took on his case. Yes, I remember.
I'm so sorry about my brother's outburst today in court. That should not have
happened. Please.
Have a seat.
He has had challenges his whole life.
When we were kids, Carl got into a lot of trouble.
I've been trying my whole life to restore him to Christ.
It may be true he's trapped in sin, but my brother is not a murderer.
You said that your grandparents raised you, too? What happened to your parents?
Mama. Well, she had a hard time.
No.
Well, it's fine.
I think about how sick my brother was with leukemia and everything.
I was his only caretaker after our grandparents passed.
I've seen that cancer come and go and come back again.
But because of God's grace and mercy,
My brother is still here.
I go to Howard University.
Mom helped me enroll using some religious money.
She sounds like a wonderful lady.
When I was a kid, my mom, she had this tattoo on her arm, her favorite Bible
verse. And I'm a much more religious guy myself, but I wanted to do something
special to remember her by, so I actually ended up getting the same
Love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth.
That's a beautiful verse and a great tribute to your mom.
Thank you.
you put your mind to. If you see it, you can achieve it.
Let's go. Excuse me.
Lola Carmichael?
Yeah? I'm Officer Bernard, my partner, Officer Cohen.
Would you like to talk about the gift card you used for this class?
Would you come with us, please?
Yeah.
Okay, people, focus up. Big hill.
Three, two, one, push.
Tomorrow, the prosecution will call more witnesses, including the criminalists
that work with investigators on your case. Let me guess.
You grew up in an upper -middle -class home, went to one of them highfalutin
private schools, probably only dated rich white women, huh?
Your mommy and daddy spoil you rotten, I can tell.
Look, Carl, I get it.
I get that you had it rough growing up. Your sister, she told me about you.
The troubles you face.
It's a lot.
Your father's on time like that.
Your mom leaving you with your grandparents.
Don't talk about my mother.
You understand?
Don't ever talk about her.
It's okay, Debbie.
Just give us a minute, please.
I don't know if my sister told you, but after our mother left, she came back
years later when she found out about my cancer.
She was a match when she wanted to donate her bone marrow.
And I was so happy. My mama came back to save me.
Then she took off again right before my surgery.
I never knew why.
All I knew was my mama had left me a second time.
She left me.
That bitch left me to die.
Thanks for showing up. You think I wouldn't? I wasn't.
Can I ask you a question?
You ever worry about charging the wrong guy with murder?
Just curious.
I tend to worry about the guilty guy getting away with it.
Look,
I've been doing this long enough to know that restorative justice doesn't work
for everybody.
What the hell is that supposed to mean?
I can't tell you everything, but we are learning new information.
New information like? I can't tell you. Are you planning to drop a bombshell in
trial? This has nothing to do with trial, Luke.
And maybe I shouldn't have said anything, but I am. But you sure as hell
I'm giving you a heads up that there is something coming down the pike.
Okay? And there might be more to Carl Brewer than you think.
You know what I think, Callan?
I think this is you trying to get into my head, knock me off my game, because
your case.
is getting weaker by the minute, and you cannot handle the thought of losing to
a public defender in his first murder trial. Are you serious right now? Your
can't handle it, Calum. Wow, man. Okay.
I'll see you in court.
Bailey's down.
Mm -hmm.
Thank you, husband.
You're welcome, wife.
Rough day, huh, babe?
Well, at least they didn't throw you in the clink.
You should have let me come down and help you.
No, it was fine once I explained everything to the officers. The point
embarrassed in front of my entire spin class because of your little girlfriend,
Nancy.
I can't believe that gift card she gave you was counterfeit.
Nancy, a wanted scammer.
I didn't see that one coming.
Yeah, I'm as surprised as you are, Mr. FBI agent.
Guess this puts a huge dent in me and Nancy's relationship.
It's too soon, Robin.
It's too soon.
I'm sorry, baby.
Guess I've got some making up to do. Mm -hmm.
But this prime rib feast?
It's a good start. It looks delicious.
Wait.
Did you buy this dinner with one of Nancy's coupons?
I paid the fifth year honor.
Are you kidding?
I live with my brother in his very crowded home. Of course I was coming.
Congrats on a new place, Em. I'm happy for you.
Thank you.
I mean, I move in a week or so, and I just, I cannot wait.
Well, I look forward to my invitation to the housewarming.
Well, I look forward to having you.
So what's up with this new adventure of yours they call holistic law?
I... Told you about the case I'm working.
I'm a mom trying to get our kids back.
She's young, you know, and she's had a really tough life. She shared some stuff
with me about some things she experienced that was extremely
Then you share that with the judge. If the judge is empathetic.
It's Judge Taylor.
Judge Nina Taylor. I appeared before him before he was transferred over to
juvenile court. I'm not going to lie. He was tough.
Great. Maybe think about holding your most compelling argument to the very end
right before he rules. That worked for me.
Duly noted.
So, Luke Wacky.
What's up with this new adventure of yours they call public defense?
I'm not going to lie.
It's been tough.
The trial, Callan, my client. He shares something
very painful with me today about his mother.
I could feel the misery that he was living with.
Haunted he was. It was almost
like I could
feel that misery too.
Mr. Slims, thanks for getting back. Did you have a chance to look at the case
file again?
Bottom line, the prosecution's saying Carl Brewer's DNA and only his DNA was
found on this woman's body. A lot of it. Like, too much to ignore.
You're going to have to argue something else, but DNA is solid.
Hey, listen, I wanted to ask you again about my client's transplant from 35
years ago. I thought you weren't allowed to mention that in trial. I'm not
allowed to talk about my client's current medical condition, but no one
can't refer to his medical history.
You're the lawyer.
Wait a minute.
What kind of transplant did you say your client had?
I've heard all that I'm going to hear, Ms. Lopez. I would just like to say one
more thing on behalf of Ms. Collins. She recently shared with me something that
she experienced that was very tough for her to handle back in British Columbia,
Canada, where she's from.
There was a certain practice called a birth alert.
It allowed social workers to flag an expecting parent without their consent
being unfit.
to care for their child.
Tell me how this relates to the case before me. Yes, Your Honor. These birth
alerts were often issued without regulation, disproportionately against
indigenous women, but also low -income women like Charlotte.
In fact, she received them during both of her pregnancies.
She spent years on the run for fear that her children were going to be taken
from her.
Judge Taylor, please do not add to the trauma that Charlotte has had to endure.
She is loving.
A loving mother.
Because she deserves to have her children back.
Sherry, you are a lifesaver. You're welcome, Your Honor.
It was a look, this incredulous look you gave me at the public integrity
hearing, the same look you give to guilty defendants before you sentence
And in that moment, it hit me.
The woman that I have come to respect, idolize even, and care for?
Would think that I would steal half a million dollars from her campaign.
And though I did nothing wrong, I carry tremendous guilt.
As though I had somehow betrayed you.
And for that, I am angry.
It really hurt.
Sherry.
The look I gave you wasn't a look of scorn. It was one of concern.
For the first time, something nefarious had happened in my backyard.
And while I never, for one second, believed that you had stolen that money,
someone in my camp did. And I was worried sick about it.
So for what seemed like an accusatory glance that I gave you, I am truly
sorry.
But this look, this look right here that I'm giving you right now,
is a look.
Of admiration and appreciation and of respect.
It is a look of love and of apology.
Thank you.
Ms. Collins.
You've missed court -mandated therapy sessions. You've missed AA meetings.
You're someone who does not obey rules.
That is a problem.
Having said all that, I strongly believe in a concerted effort to strengthen the
relationship between parents involved in the system and their children.
Ms. Lopez is right. You've been through a lot, and I'm convinced you never put
your children in harm's way.
I'm ruling that your children be returned to you while you serve out the
of your plea agreement.
We found the blood for processing and we found that the genetic profile
generated from the blood found on the victim's body was consistent with Carl
Brewer's DNA profile.
Thank you.
Mr. Watkins?
Ms.
Reed, just to be clear, you told this jury that the DNA from the victim and
DNA from my client matched to a certainty of, what was it, 1 in 19
Correct. Right.
19 billion, that's a big number. Three times the total population of humans on
the planet.
Even with that certainty, wouldn't you say that there are circumstances in
DNA can change?
Change?
Possible, but extraordinarily rare.
I want to show you something.
Know what this is, Miss Reed?
It's a chimera.
A chimera? Comes from Greek mythology, right?
Yes.
Fire -breathing monster, a hybrid creature made up of three different
parts. A lion, the body of a goat, and a snake's head for a tail.
Beautiful action. Your Honor, relevance.
Overruled. I want to see where this is going.
But we're not talking about Greek mythology, are we, Mrs. Reed? Tell us
beautiful creature connects to the medical definition.
In medicine, chimera refers to a hybrid human, someone who could be carrying two
totally different sets of DNA inside their body.
So let's say if someone received a procedure like, say, a bone marrow
transplant, that person could be a chimera, yes?
They could be carrying two distinct sets of DNA, one of the recipients and one
of the donor, right?
Sorry, I didn't hear you, Ms. Reed. Human chimerism is rare.
Rare, yes, but it is possible under these circumstances. Objection.
352 and Foundation.
Overruled. Continue, Mr. Watkins. Ms. Reed, if you learned that Mr. Brewer had
bone marrow transplant, would that change your opinion regarding the
of the DNA evidence?
Your Honor, marking Defense Exhibit W, Carl Brewer's medical records from 1987
showing he received a bone marrow transplant from the California Cancer
Organization. Your Honor.
objection on prior grounds. The defense just violated the court's rulings to
prohibit the mention of the defendant's medical record. The court didn't tell me
not to present evidence from a medical procedure that my client received 35
years ago. Bay left to remove the jury. I ask that the evidence be excluded and
that the jurors be instructed to disregard it. Those records include the
medical records as well as the fact that Mr. Brewer received a bone marrow
transplant. Watkins, are you serious right now? I comply with the court's
discovery rules as well as the court's 402 ruling.
Counsel, you are both out of order. I want to see you in my chambers now.
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