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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,440 This programme contains scenes which some viewers may find upsetting and some strong language 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,640 FOOTSTEPS JOGGING, RAPID HEARTBEAT 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,880 CELL DOOR SLAMS SHUT 4 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,320 My father always said to me, 5 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,520 he said, "God helps those who help themselves." 6 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:41,440 I think you can help yourself by living a good and healthy life. 7 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,920 Love and respect yourself and others. 8 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,080 You first have to have respect and love for yourself. 9 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,080 If you don't love yourself, how are you going to love your neighbour? 10 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,720 BUZZING 11 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,000 METAL CLANKS 12 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:24,400 I feel that I've been pretty fortunate in my life. 13 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:25,480 Steven, how are you doing? 14 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:31,920 You know, a lot of guys haven't had the advantages I've had. 15 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:42,600 They've had a tough time and been in tough situations 16 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,360 and they've made mistakes. 17 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:55,080 Typically, I don't question any of the inmates about their crimes. 18 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,800 If they want to discuss them with me, 19 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,840 I'll discuss them with them. 20 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:04,840 It really doesn't matter much to me what they've done in the past. 21 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,760 What matters to me is what are they doing now 22 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,280 and what are they going to do in the future? 23 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,680 We all make mistakes and we hopefully learn 24 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,760 from our mistakes and go forward. 25 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,640 FAINT, INDISTINCT CHATTER 26 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,480 CHATTER GETS LOUDER 27 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,920 One of the first things that they tell you in prison 28 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:10,640 is put your feelings in an envelope and mail that home. 29 00:03:10,640 --> 00:03:11,960 You can get them when you get there. 30 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,240 I wasn't Christopher Scull. 31 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,320 I was T-24369. 32 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,000 I was my number. 33 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,800 8105! 8105! 34 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,760 Knowing you're going to be locked up for the rest of your life, 35 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,920 you've got to have ways to cope. 36 00:03:26,920 --> 00:03:28,760 Yard crew, head over to checkpoint. 37 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,040 Yard crew, head over to checkpoint. Do so now. 38 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,640 forward 39 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,360 Distractions only slow you 40 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,560 forward 41 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,120 Distractions only slow you 42 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,520 Up is where I'm shooting 43 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,880 He's the one to pull me through it 44 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,280 We have a running group here at San Quentin, the 1,000 Mile Club. 45 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,400 On the yard is one of the few places where you don't have to wear clothes 46 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,200 that say "prisoner" on them. You can wear your own clothes, 47 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,880 and you can dress just like anybody else in society. 48 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,880 But it allows you to feel like you're doing something normal, 49 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,080 that you're doing something that's not prison. 50 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,040 It's also comprised of coaches. 51 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,200 They are marathon runners that want to come in and share 52 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,600 their experience about running. 53 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,080 Named the club the 1,000 Mile Club. 54 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:28,240 The idea was to have the inmates run 1,000 miles 55 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,440 while they were at San Quentin. 56 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,760 I have a fairly extensive running background. 57 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,280 I've run 78 marathons, 58 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:42,160 38 ultra-marathons, including a 100-mile race, 59 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,240 and I was a competitive runner up until age 60. 60 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,200 And I enjoy coaching running. 61 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,720 Listen up, everybody! 62 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:55,920 We've got the half-marathon in 32 days. 63 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,280 Then 35 days after that, we've got the two-hour run. 64 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:04,040 35 days after that, we have a three-hour run. 65 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:09,400 And then you have six weeks, 42 days, the marathon. 66 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:10,720 November 17th. 67 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,840 Woo! Yeah, baby! 68 00:05:12,840 --> 00:05:16,200 Now things start getting a little bit tougher. Two, one, go! 69 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:21,080 We train the runners starting at shorter distances... 70 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,680 Three minutes down, three to go! 71 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:28,080 ..and then as the year goes on, we build up to a marathon. 72 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,440 Three to go! SHOUTING INDISTINCTLY 73 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,840 If you look at statistics, less than 1% of the population 74 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:37,400 have finished a marathon. 75 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:43,760 So if you can go out and you can finish a 26.2 mile marathon, 76 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,320 you're doing pretty good. 77 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,600 The thought of running 26.2 miles 78 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,480 in or out of prison is incredibly intimidating, but for a lot 79 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:56,760 of people, it's the journey 80 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,600 of actually getting there, getting to the starting line 81 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,680 and having the confidence that, "Yeah, I can do this." 82 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:18,200 My goal is to run under three hours, maybe qualify for Boston here. 83 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:19,520 Be the first one to do that. 84 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:26,080 I started running to stay focused on my main goals and that's to get 85 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,040 out, have my freedom. But while I'm here, 86 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,760 stay focused on staying right, doing the right things. 87 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,080 And the board, because I know that I had to go to the board 88 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,760 and I've seen so many people after being denied five, six, seven 89 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,360 years, they get stressed out. 90 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,520 And somebody that I knew that became a good friend 91 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,760 of mine, that worked at PLA with me, he ended up killing himself. 92 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,800 I know it's stressful and people handle things differently, 93 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,920 and I won't let that happen to me. 94 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,160 INDISTINCT SPEAKING OVER LOUDSPEAKER 95 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,800 This is my first major conviction, my first time getting time. 96 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,040 I got it all at once. A double life sentence. 97 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,080 I'm never supposed to go home. 98 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,680 But instead of letting that anger eat me, I decided to put 99 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,320 in something positive and not let these people think they're right 100 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:19,400 about me. Not let my son grow up thinking that his dad is a loser. 101 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,360 I'm hoping to survive the marathon on Friday. 102 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,000 If you guys have seven hours, you might just see that happen. 103 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,120 HE LAUGHS 104 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,040 You've got a squad's notice, man. I keep forgetting to give you... 105 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,200 Recent arrival. 106 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:43,000 The last time I was here was '90, and I did not parole a better 107 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,360 person back there, and they didn't have programmes. 108 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,640 First thing I learned was how to make alcohol, 109 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,120 how to make weapons, how to slam narcotics. 110 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,400 I mean, I told myself I'll never teach that to none of these kids. 111 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,640 Even some of the melees and the riots in here had nothing 112 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,720 on how I felt after that marathon. 113 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,240 What started me running was I don't like sitting at tables 114 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,160 talking about prison stuff. 115 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,080 You hear the same stories, but it's just a different phase. 116 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,440 I've been running for a year and a half. I've got 2,500 miles in. 117 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,160 I lost over 55 pounds. And here I am. 118 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,880 I want under a four-hour marathon. That's all I want. 119 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,480 Yard crew, head over to checkpoint! 120 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,800 Yard crew, head over to checkpoint! Do so now. 121 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,000 INDISTINCT SPEAKING OVER RADIO 122 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,200 Today is marathon day in San Quentin. 123 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,440 It's the culmination of a year's progress. 124 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,280 This is what we do at the 1,000 Mile Club. 125 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,440 We work from a benchmark mile 126 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,840 up in January, right on up to 26 miles in November. 127 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,120 This is the only day that we actually demand the track, 128 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:07,560 kind of sort of by proxy. 129 00:09:07,560 --> 00:09:11,440 But there are guys out here who probably wouldn't be on the yard, 130 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,080 just because somebody they know is running. 131 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,120 They come out and support. It's a good time. 132 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,960 My goal today is to complete the marathon. 133 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,160 But the thing is, when I'm at six miles, Markelle's finished. 134 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,160 So I want to see if I can... LAUGHTER 135 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,040 Yeah, most people are halfway done by the time Markelle's done. 136 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:36,520 Perfect day. Sunny. Perfect day. You couldn't get a better day. 137 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,800 Oh, did Frank put the cones out? Did he come in early? Yeah. 138 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,640 Frank did? Yeah. Did you know that they...? 139 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,720 Shoes that are donated don't belong to us. 140 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,800 They belong to the state, so they're stored in these lockers. 141 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,280 We got to give them ID in order to get the shoes. 142 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,440 And when we're finished, we got to return them. 143 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,880 Hey, how are you? Jim! Y'all ready? Great, ready. 144 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,480 The shoes look ready! The shoe... 145 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:05,720 At least the shoes are ready. 146 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:06,760 Buenos dias! 147 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,480 Let's get our shoes on 148 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,280 and let's get ready to run. 149 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,720 INDISTINCT CHATTER Good luck today. Good luck. 150 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:19,000 Markelle is the fastest man in the club by leaps and bounds. 151 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,640 The only thing is whether or not he's going to break three hours. 152 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,960 A lot of guys, they've gotten to the halfway point. 153 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,600 They've gotten to the three-quarters point, but they haven't done 154 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,920 the whole 26.2. For them, today is another crack at it. 155 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,800 Three minutes! We're going in three minutes! 156 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,680 We start in three minutes! 157 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,920 Hey, Jim. How you doing? How you doing? Good to see you. 158 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,520 Three minutes! And you're in the community... 159 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,560 Change comes from within, as frustrating as it is... No. 160 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:46,240 Change comes from doing stuff. Change comes from within. 161 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,640 What are any of us going to do on a national level? 162 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,040 Who knows? Who knows? This... Locally. 163 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,640 Things for me will happen locally, if I can get my hands 164 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,360 on and just sort of work... 165 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,040 That's actually where the biggest changes need to happen 166 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,400 and where the most change is needed. I agree. 167 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,880 Because federal laws don't really reach us like that. 168 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,280 I'm going to put the banner up. 169 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:10,360 Am I centre? Am I centre? Hey, Tone. Am I centre? Yep. 170 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,600 The San Quentin Marathon is 105 laps. 171 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,560 The track itself entails the whole yard. 172 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:21,680 We have our uphill turns and downhill slopes. 173 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:24,960 We have gravel. We're on pavement. We're on dirt. 174 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,400 It's more of an endurance run than a race. 175 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,960 If we can keep the track clear, this should be a very good day 176 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,040 for the club. This is a good day for us. 177 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,080 This is a holiday for us. 178 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,960 All right! I want all the runners... 179 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,480 Left-batters! 180 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,560 Brad's where? Where are you, Brad? 181 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:49,960 Yeah, I'm right here. I'm counting for you. 182 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,520 Hey, buddy. How you doing? I'm pretty good. 183 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,160 You're going to run it? 184 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,040 He's got Butchie. 185 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,240 OK. Melody! Melody! You got... Here's Jerry. 186 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,200 Jerry says he's not running. Oh, you're not running. 187 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,480 He wants to count. Oh, OK. That's all right. 188 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:09,200 The inmates in prison don't have a lot of options. 189 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:14,040 When I'm training runners on the outside to run a marathon, 190 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:19,120 we do a lot of long runs and trail runs, and it's a lot 191 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,320 more interesting and a lot easier to do. 192 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:27,960 The runners at San Quentin are running lap after lap after lap. 193 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,800 All right. Everybody that's running, 194 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:35,960 we've been doing this for a year now, so we should be ready. 195 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:38,440 Pace yourself. 196 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,440 It's game time. 197 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:47,520 OK, we're going in ten, nine, eight... 198 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,640 Good luck to everybody. ..seven, six, five, four... 199 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,680 May the force be with you. ..three, two, one... 200 00:12:55,680 --> 00:12:57,720 Go! CHEERING 201 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,960 The San Quentin marathon is way harder 202 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:13,080 than any of the hardest hilly marathons I ran outside of here. 203 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,480 I don't want to even call it a track, because it's a loop 204 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,160 with six 90-degree turns in it. 205 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,840 That's hard. And plus, you're running in an environment 206 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,120 where there's a couple of thousand other people out in the yard 207 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,960 and you've kind of got to move around them. 208 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,600 I mean, most of the guys are very, very respectful, but... 209 00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:31,520 You're doing great. 210 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,520 Is there a better punishment than running? 211 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,040 That's every other sport's punishment. 212 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,240 "Go run ten laps", or whatever, right? 213 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,000 All right now, New York. 214 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,680 Yes, sir. Stay with it. 215 00:13:44,680 --> 00:13:46,560 Looking good! 216 00:13:46,560 --> 00:13:48,840 I have run the marathon before. 217 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,640 I've been hurt here and there the last couple of years. 218 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,200 This is probably the toughest corner of the course 219 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,240 to navigate right here. 220 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,280 Most of the traffic on a Friday morning, on the hourly unlocks, 221 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,960 traffic is going counterclockwise from where we're racing. 222 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,960 If you're not part of the race, 223 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,440 you're kind of oblivious to what's going on around you, 224 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,920 and we're trying to stop collisions here on the corner. 225 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,480 Basically, that's what we do right here. 226 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,880 I'm basically a traffic cop here. 227 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,440 When you have a race this long, once you get physically tired, 228 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:23,880 you start to get mentally tired. 229 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,280 And if one of these guys bumps you and knocks you off your line 230 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,000 then you're more subject to quit. 231 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,560 Watch your line, fellas. Watch your line. 232 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:31,960 Swing wide! 233 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,720 Hey, fellas, bad place to hold a conversation, please! 234 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,160 They're working hard. 235 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,240 Nowhere else in competitive running 236 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,240 do you have to run on an obstacle course. 237 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,400 Good run! Stay with it, Eddie. Come on, Larry. 238 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:43,600 Yard down! 239 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,040 Yard down! 240 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,200 Oh, man. The yard's down. 241 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,720 I needed this rest like five miles in. 242 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,480 HE LAUGHS 243 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,640 Something happened somewhere in the prison. 244 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,040 Here we go. We got to sit, no matter where we're at. 245 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,560 Most of the time, it's not serious. 246 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,280 But if it's real long, it's something serious. 247 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,480 Probably maybe it's a medical alarm right now, 248 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,120 so we just got to wait until they resume it. 249 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,840 So probably take five, ten, 15 minutes. 250 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,680 Depends. Up to an hour. 251 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,800 So we just got to wait until they say it's clear. 252 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,160 It's not a good start. 253 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,960 One thing you learn about prison, 254 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,640 the menu is subject to change! 255 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:37,880 And everything else... 256 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,600 Without notification. Without prior notification. 257 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,880 It looks like a long one. Man. I'll have a seat. 258 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,240 Ah! 259 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,240 Shucks. 260 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,440 I'm curious to see, like, how a guy like Markelle 261 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:53,800 would run in the street. 262 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,400 He runs, like, 3.21. 263 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,400 I wonder, like, how much faster would he be in the street, 264 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,080 where it wasn't just the same old track? 265 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,400 If geese weren't in the way, you didn't have to get up 266 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,040 and get down, get up and get down - if it was under normal conditions. 267 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,040 Like, what would our times be? 268 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,120 I'm curious to see what that would be like. 269 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,640 When I was a junior in the PE class, 270 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,360 I was running with a backpack on full of books, 271 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,000 and I was beating some of the guys that were running. 272 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,520 The track coach seen that and asked me to join the track team. 273 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,720 My junior year, I ran the 880, 274 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,080 the mile, the 4x400. 275 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:30,720 I was offered a scholarship. 276 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,960 The biggest one was UNLV for track. 277 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,320 Then I had Cal State Fullerton and Cal State Northridge 278 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:38,880 offer scholarships for track. 279 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,960 I didn't understand what I was offered and what I had, 280 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,440 so I didn't take advantage of the opportunity 281 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,120 like I should have. 282 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,440 The self doubt and, you know, 283 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,360 am I going to be able to live up to that expectation 284 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:52,640 of what was offered to me? 285 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,400 I ended up dropping out, from partying and drinking and stuff. 286 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,200 So that's where the downward spiral started. 287 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,120 This dude can run all day. HE LAUGHS 288 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,200 Day and night. He already run all night. Yeah. 289 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,400 Markelle, what's going on? How you doing? 290 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,480 What's up with it, man? How y'all doing? 291 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,240 How you doing? I'm all right. 292 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,440 I wasn't feeling good inside, you know? 293 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,640 I was sad, depressed, angry. 294 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:27,280 So all my feelings that I had bottled up inside of me, 295 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,880 I hid that in drinking. 296 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,720 I was working through the registry, 297 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,640 and I was also working in the convalescent hospital, 298 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,800 nursing, taking care of patients. 299 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,680 Separated from my wife. 300 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,560 Living with another female, 301 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,480 and relationship got bad after a year 302 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,520 of us being together, 303 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,160 and stuff got violent. 304 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,480 We started being abusive towards each other, 305 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,840 and she ended up getting pregnant and... 306 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,120 Um... 307 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,760 And, one day, after working and drinking, 308 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,480 I assaulted her while she was pregnant 309 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,440 and she had to go to the hospital and have a C-section. 310 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,520 She was seven months pregnant. 311 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:20,320 Had the baby three days later, after she went to the hospital, 312 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,880 I called the police, turned myself in. 313 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,800 They said my son was OK, but... 314 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,360 ..the baby ended up dying 28 days later of an infection. 315 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:32,960 Went to trial and got a second degree murder, so... 316 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,640 So I did that, and now I'm paying for it. 317 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,960 Markelle, er, he went to the parole board. 318 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,960 He got denied, but I think he'll make the next one. 319 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,720 So, he will... He will have a shot to do that, God willing. 320 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,760 I think a lot of us will get that chance. 321 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,120 Even me. 322 00:18:57,120 --> 00:18:59,080 I started with a 55 to life, 323 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,920 but now I go to parole board in 13 years instead of never, 324 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,800 and I think it's going to get shortened even more. 325 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:07,480 So, we'll see. 326 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,040 Gotta stay in shape in the meantime, though, 327 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,560 so you can have a decent quality of life on the other side. 328 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:21,040 So it's been going for almost...seven minutes now. 329 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,960 Sometimes it might be a half hour long. Yeah. 330 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,760 Clear! Oh, there we go. 331 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,640 All right! Back at it. 332 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,000 Off to the races! 333 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,240 We've got you. 334 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,640 Come on. All right! Yes, sir. 335 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,760 I got you. I'll check in! That's all right, I got you, brother. 336 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,160 Hey. Looking good. Way to go. 337 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,440 We have a pretty good strong field here as far as finishing. 338 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,840 Everybody may not run 100% of the 26 miles. 339 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,800 You may have some walk episodes. 340 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,880 OK, we've been doing 30 minutes of running time, guys. 341 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,040 All right, Steve? 342 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,920 If I had to pick one that might not finish today, 343 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,600 I think it just might be New York on time constraints. 344 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,760 So, my name is Rahsaan. 345 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,400 I'm named after a jazz musician named Rahsaan Roland Kirk. 346 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,680 Another one? Cool kids are doing it. You'll feel better. Come on! 347 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,320 And all my life, no-one's ever got my name right, 348 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:28,600 or hardly ever got my name right, 349 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,040 so I answer to anything starting with a "Ra" sound, 350 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,560 like Rasheen, Rashawn, Rayshawn, Raheem. 351 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,440 As long as you're in the neighbourhood, 352 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,480 I feel like you're talking about me in a positive way, I'll answer. 353 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,000 New York City! New York, yeah! 354 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,320 Woo woo woo! 355 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,960 I gotta go, dawg. I gotta get back to work! 356 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,400 MUSIC INTRO 357 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,320 This song for everybody that kept doing 358 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,360 what they was supposed to be doing, didn't fold under pressure. 359 00:20:52,360 --> 00:20:55,160 Shout out to anybody that did that. 360 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,040 I recognised a while ago that my voice is free. 361 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,160 I can reach the world through words. 362 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,240 My family's all the way in New York, so I don't get visits. 363 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,800 But they can see my change through my writing, 364 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,960 and they can see I can be a success. 365 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,520 Even from prison, I can be a successful writer. 366 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,120 Dying a loser, like, wasting my life - it's my greatest fear, 367 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:30,640 and it's inspired a passion for me to do whatever I can, 368 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:31,800 even from here. 369 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,200 Even if I never go home, 370 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,800 to be the best me I can be, 371 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,480 and have some kind of positive contribution to society. 372 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,400 So, I'm a staff writer for San Quentin News. 373 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,720 That's one of my jobs. 374 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,320 We just got our website up - sanquentinnews.com. 375 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,760 Our online analytics show that almost every country goes online 376 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,200 to check out San Quentin News. 377 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,880 Somebody from somewhere, everywhere. 378 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,560 Also a contributing writer for the Marshall Project. 379 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,800 Every once in a while I write Life Inside stories 380 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,000 and shoot it there. 381 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,880 I'm also a consultant for Amazon, working on a project with them. 382 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,280 One of my favourite things 383 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,200 is the co-founder of Prison Renaissance. 384 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,080 We're trying to build bridges to get over these walls. 385 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,640 I grew up in Brownsville, Brooklyn, New York. 386 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,200 It's a community with 21 different housing projects. 387 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,640 I saw myself getting killed, but I didn't see myself getting life. 388 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,480 This is considered Brownsville, Brooklyn. 389 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:52,160 It's probably one of the worst neighbourhoods in New York City. 390 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,720 Mike Tyson is from this neighbourhood. 391 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,040 You know, poverty stricken, crime stricken, 392 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,360 drug addicts all over here. 393 00:23:00,360 --> 00:23:01,760 A lot of shooting. 394 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,040 We're right in front of Atlantic Towers, 216 Rockaway Avenue. 395 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,760 Me and Rahsaan was pretty much born and raised here. 396 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:12,000 Most of the time, there'd probably be, like, drugs selling over here. 397 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,200 There's probably, like, 40, 50 people 398 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,720 standing in front of the building. 399 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,880 You might, in the morning time, guys, winos all across the street. 400 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,520 The environment, kind of, 401 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,960 is what created Rahsaan to go where he went. 402 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,360 Because when Rahsaan would come out the neighbourhood, 403 00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:31,080 Rahsaan didn't look like nobody in the neighbourhood. 404 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,800 Rahsaan was a computer wiz. 405 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:37,240 There was no other kid in this whole building that had a Commodore 64 406 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,400 and was creating his own video games. 407 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,560 He was like 12 years old at that point. 408 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,720 He was like a white kid growing up in an all-black neighbourhood. 409 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,320 And they called him White Boy. 410 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,720 And they took advantage of him, 411 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,960 and it was like they would punish him for 200 years of slavery. 412 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,680 They were taking it out on him. 413 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,560 I know Rahsaan had a lot going for him. 414 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,200 He was always an A student. 415 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,640 He didn't like it. He was like, "Don't put me in that school 416 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,960 "because I don't want to be in a special class. 417 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,480 "I don't want to be..." 418 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,360 He did not want to be recognised 419 00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:14,120 as someone, you know, above the rest. 420 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,920 He was a victim for so long that just one day, 421 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,360 he just said he didn't want to be a victim no more. 422 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,480 One day, me and him were standing outside. 423 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,200 There was a guy like, "Give up your jewellery!" 424 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,640 You know, "Give up everything", 425 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,080 and he went to rob us. 426 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,080 And the guy began shooting. 427 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,120 And in the process of the guy shooting, 428 00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:41,600 pulling away, I ended up getting shot. 429 00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:44,520 He got hit in both legs. 430 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,680 I took it dramatically, like he died. 431 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,280 I couldn't forgive myself for it, 432 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,920 and I couldn't forgive that guy for it. I just wanted to get him. 433 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,960 I run to the projects nearby. 434 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,560 I go to a drug dealer there that I hung out with sometimes 435 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,760 in clubs, and I ask him for a gun and he's like, 436 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,320 "Come on, man. What you gonna do with a gun? You ain't like that." 437 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,080 And I said, "He shot my brother. Give me the gun." 438 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,240 And he looked at me and he took me serious, 439 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,520 and he gave me a gun. 440 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,960 And, for the first time in my life, I used it. 441 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,160 I ran up on him and shot him three times. 442 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,560 He lived, but I ended up arrested for it. 443 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,600 I only served three days on Rikers Island. 444 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,360 The case was dismissed at the grand jury 445 00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:20,440 because he had seven cases out on him for robbing people 446 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,280 and shooting people in my neighbourhood, 447 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,360 and he just... He didn't testify against me. 448 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,440 Watch your line, please! Thank you. 449 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,840 Swing wide. 450 00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:40,640 Come on, you're doing good! 451 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,280 Here at San Quentin, you kind of break a lot of rules 452 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,160 and regulations that you were brought up into in the system. 453 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,880 As far as mingling and mixing with other races. 454 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,120 Geographically, we basically have African Americans over here. 455 00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:56,120 You have what you would call 456 00:25:56,120 --> 00:25:58,880 the Mexican Americans in this corner. 457 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,960 Most of the Muslim segregation, this is where they populate. 458 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,440 The northern Mexicans are down in this corner. 459 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,520 You have the Native American sweat lodge where they populate, 460 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:08,960 and, for the most part, 461 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,120 far corner, you have the whites and the others, 462 00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:14,960 and everybody has their own basic area... 463 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,400 Track! Let them up the lane, please! 464 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,520 Mostly it's prison politics. 465 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,000 Most of these guys have come in and they fall into 466 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,840 the racism aspect of prison, 467 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,920 and you kind of go with party lines... Looking good! 468 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,040 Looking good! 469 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,800 Oh, that's fast. 470 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,200 Pretty fast! 471 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,560 As you get older, 472 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,880 you basically start to form your own identity again. 473 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,440 None of us are the same person we were 20 years ago. 474 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,200 Tommy... 475 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,720 Tommy has a swastika tattooed on his arm, 476 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,400 but I'm probably one of Tommy's biggest fans. 477 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,600 If you're going to reintegrate back into society, 478 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,080 that's what you need to be - a stand up guy. 479 00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:01,800 So, want to do one more? Yeah. OK. 480 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,400 Which one would you circle? 481 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,320 Er, circle the common... Right. 482 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,760 That would be metals. 483 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,720 And then underline that. Brilliant. Got it, buddy. 484 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,480 Cool. Thanks, buddy. 485 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,760 You're always a big help. Any time. 486 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,160 Cool. 487 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,240 I test Wednesday on my reading language arts - RLA. 488 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,720 And if I pass that, I've got one more after that, 489 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,920 that's maths, so hopefully I'll have my GED no later than January. 490 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,800 Fourth grade was pretty much it for me because I flunked. 491 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,680 And then after that, my teachers back then they just passed me 492 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,080 from grade to grade. 493 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,360 School was never important for me, to tell you the truth. 494 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:42,360 A bunch of BS is what I believed in. 495 00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:44,400 It's weird how you get caught up 496 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,680 in the prison politics and the beliefs. 497 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,120 Even my wife, she knew me right when I got in my gang, 498 00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:55,880 and she came up to me and she's like, Palmdale Peckerwoods? 499 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,280 But she went, "Palmdale Peckerpunk!". 500 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,200 And I was like, "Oh!" I wanted to get her! 501 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,280 There's a lot of times over the last 13 years 502 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,880 I wanted to give up on Marion and I 503 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,160 because I don't feel right. 504 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,680 Because I say, "You deserve a person out there, 505 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,960 "not somebody in prison." 506 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,000 She's like, "I don't care. I'm with you, 507 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,680 "and that's all there is to it." 508 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,240 Do we have it at 750? 509 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,920 That was the idea, to get away, huh? 510 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,320 You gotta wait for me! 511 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,600 These are the shoes that Tommy made for me. 512 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,040 I love these shoes. 513 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,120 And you'll notice it says 26.2. 514 00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:40,040 And on the back side, right here, 515 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,640 is the "I love you" sign for sign language. 516 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,520 Now these are two bobble heads that he made of us. 517 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,800 And on the side of his head, it says "Ma and Pa tried". 518 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,840 I look really good. 519 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,800 I love the bobble heads, 520 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,600 and they're made out of newspaper, soap and water. 521 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,120 And we entered it in the fair, 522 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,400 and I have the paperwork on that, actually. 523 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,080 Tommy Wickerd. 524 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:08,240 For Christmas, I sent Tommy a letter and I wrote, "Ask me". 525 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,440 I was like, no, she doesn't want me to get married. 526 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,080 I was like, "Marion, I'm probably never coming home." 527 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,560 She's like, "I don't care. I'm with you, no matter what." 528 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,280 Everybody got a radio and a chair, 529 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,400 I was on the phone in the cell, and we got married over the phone. 530 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,080 And when we got married, Marcelle at the time said, 531 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,280 "Hey, they're married!" So you hear all the bars go "de-de-de"! 532 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,920 "That's right, Tommy!" 533 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,160 We became husband and wife, and we've been that ever since. 534 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,600 And I adopted Tommy II 535 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,920 after his mom died. 536 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,600 Being a wife from somebody that's incarcerated is extremely difficult, 537 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,200 because all you have is the telephone. 538 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,200 You watch a TV show together. 539 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,160 He's in prison, I'm at home. 540 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,800 You sit down in front of the TV at the same time, 541 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,520 and you watch the show together. 542 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:56,960 We watched The OC. 543 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,560 Oh, my gosh. The OC was our show 544 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,920 that we watched while we were growing to love each other. 545 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,240 It was wild. 546 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,320 I have the... I have the DVD still unopened, 547 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,000 so if he does get to come home, 548 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,000 we're going to watch The OC together. 549 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,240 You go to a visiting room and you sit there and you hold hands 550 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,640 and you walk around, eat vending food together, 551 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,560 play card games, 552 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,880 talk. 553 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,280 And that's your life as the wife of someone that's incarcerated. 554 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,880 Now, when they moved Tommy to San Quentin, 555 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,360 Tommy thought our relationship would actually end. 556 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,520 Because San Quentin is 375 miles away from our home. 557 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,440 He was on the bus with this guy and he said, 558 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,200 "Ask for family visits", 559 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,600 and we got them. 560 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,520 You have 46 hours together. 561 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,480 You get to watch TV together, 562 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:54,200 you cook together, you shower together, you clean together, 563 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,760 you do whatever comes to mind together. 564 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,000 And it's like living a real life. 565 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,520 It's... It's like really being a couple. 566 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,000 Hurry, hurry, hurry, hurry! 567 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,200 What's making this family visit so special 568 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,520 is Tommy II, our son, is flying in from Nebraska, 569 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,080 and he's going in for his first family visit with his dad, ever. 570 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,440 So he's only ever had visits with his dad 571 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,640 in regular visiting rooms where you have 572 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,320 correctional officers watching you. 573 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,960 Other families, other inmates. 574 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,720 I've got a couple memories of him outside, but not much. 575 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,000 We used to wake up two o'clock in the morning, 576 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,120 line up our car outside the prison before the prison opened its gates. 577 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,040 They opened their gates at seven. 578 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,840 We drove in, filled out our paperwork, 579 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,320 went through processing, and got to see him by, like 9:30. 580 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,720 Somebody will come ask me something simple, maybe, 581 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,400 like, "change my oil in my car". 582 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,400 People change their oil all the time. 583 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,080 I don't know how to do that. 584 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,560 My dad didn't show me that. 585 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,840 He can't show me that in the visiting room. 586 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,680 Like, everyone's like, "Oh, you don't know how to do this?" 587 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,800 "OK, who showed you that when you were a kid?" 588 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,320 "Oh, my dad." 589 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,280 "OK." Like, how am I going to learn that? 590 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,640 I can't. 591 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,520 So everything that I've learned, 592 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,320 I've either taught myself, or YouTube. 593 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,920 YouTube's been my dad. 594 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,080 I taught myself how to change a tyre. 595 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,040 I taught myself how to climb trees, 596 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,600 and I taught myself... 597 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,480 ..how to catch and throw a football. 598 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,080 Just... 599 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,080 I want to ask him why. 600 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,680 Like, what the fuck's your problem? 601 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,800 That's it. 602 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,000 I just... 603 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,400 I just want to know. 604 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,320 Because it's not easy. 605 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,880 It's not easy for me. 606 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,720 And I know, yeah, I'm tough... 607 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,320 Everything. 608 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,600 There's no reason that he's in there for as long as he is. 609 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,640 That's all his choice. 610 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,640 I can understand the law's the law, 611 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,360 but I have the right to be mad at my dad. 612 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,360 No-one's going to take that from me. 613 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,240 I know he feels sorry, but tell me then. 614 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,040 I share my feelings. Why can't a grown man share his, to his son? 615 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,160 It's like he's scared to cry. 616 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,560 I've only seen tears in his eyes twice. 617 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,920 He's like, "Can't let people see me cry. 618 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,280 "I can't let these COs see me cry." 619 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,960 And now there's nobody. 620 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,120 I better see some damn tears in his eyes. 621 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,680 Or I'm gonna make some. 622 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,240 Hey, Siri. 623 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,680 Driving directions to San Quentin State Prison. 624 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,560 One possibility is San Quentin State Prison on Main Street 625 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,000 in San Quentin. Do you want that one? 626 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,240 Yes. 627 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,000 Starting route to San Quentin State Prison. 628 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,040 People turn away from people when they're incarcerated. 629 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,640 And if you don't have anybody to show you that your dad is cool, 630 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,280 or your mom is cool, 631 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,640 then how do you learn to accept them? 632 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,160 Are you ready? 633 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,800 We're not allowed to take suitcases into the prison. 634 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,680 It has to be bags that have soft sides. 635 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,880 Bags that you can't put any contraband in. 636 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,120 You have to have the suitcases for the airport, 637 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,880 these for here. 638 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,440 It's a lot of work. 639 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,080 It's all worth it! 640 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,960 I feel like a pack mule. 641 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,640 I am a pack mule. 642 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,840 I could actually be 643 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,480 or just happy being me 644 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,280 that had more pull than the sea 645 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,000 I'm looking more like the streets 646 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,680 and then buy into your dreams 647 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,320 Push pawns to some queens 648 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,920 Who wanna practise medicine? 649 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,880 They can never be defeated. 650 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,160 I wanna tell you about it 651 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,280 Hey, Vincent! Here we go. 652 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,280 Hey, Sergio. Way to go! 653 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,040 Looking good, man. Hey, Steve. 654 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,600 Take that deep breath and relax. 655 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:58,760 All right, Tommy! 656 00:35:58,760 --> 00:35:59,960 Tommy! Tommy! 657 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:01,320 Don't give in, buddy. 658 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,320 Get some... Get some fluids in you. 659 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,120 All right? I don't know. Got you. 660 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,800 Markelle's well out. 661 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,360 Well out there, but he's not running as fast as he ran last year 662 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,120 when he set the record. 663 00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:21,960 So hopefully he picks it up, and... 664 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,520 ..runs a faster time, but we'll see. 665 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,240 Keep drinking, Markelle! 666 00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:30,520 Good work. You're more than halfway done! 667 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,000 Yeah. That's smart. If he can get some... 668 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,680 I mean, they're at a huge disadvantage in terms of 669 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,040 running the same course every day, 670 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,320 and nutrition and sleep, 671 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,480 and having control of a lot of different variables, 672 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,600 that they just don't have control of, 673 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:48,920 but they do a great job, 674 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,960 taking their athletics seriously. 675 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,240 17 miles, Markelle! 17 now. 676 00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:58,440 A big part of the thousand mile club too is the outside volunteers. 677 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,520 They really make us feel like we're part of the community. 678 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,320 Hello. Good evening. 679 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,120 How are you? Good. 680 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,080 What you got going on today? 681 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,520 We are going to do some running. 682 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,520 Wow, you guys are always running. 683 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,360 There's an old Indian saying, right? 684 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,160 He who doesn't feel like he's part of the tribe 685 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,440 acts as if he doesn't have any relatives, 686 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,040 and Franklin will make that impossible to not feel like 687 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,760 you're part of the tribe, especially Frank. 688 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,240 He comes in on Fridays and every other Monday. 689 00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:26,720 I haven't seen my mom since I've been incarcerated. 690 00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:30,480 So, it's been 16 years now, 691 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,840 almost 17 years. 692 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,480 So that's what I appreciate a lot 693 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,120 from people from the outside spending time with me. 694 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,240 That's actually how I consider having my visits. 695 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:42,880 That's what I consider family. 696 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,320 This doesn't happen in every prison. 697 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,960 You've got to remember, all I did was hang around gang members 698 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,320 and do drugs and sell drugs and hurt people. 699 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,320 Now I'm around coaches that are just like... 700 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,920 like my mom and dad growing up - good people, and it's... 701 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,560 I had to... 702 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,640 ALARM SOUNDS There's an alarm, so.... 703 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,600 HE GROANS 704 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:15,760 Well... 705 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,000 ..they have a lot of programmes here 706 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,040 and you got a lot of outside people here, but this is still prison. 707 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,880 Um, it gets violent. 708 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,400 So, um... 709 00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:31,120 There's a lot of stuff I can't really talk about 710 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,520 because I'm in prison and I still have to live here. 711 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:35,880 Um... 712 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,280 But, um... 713 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,000 with the time that remain 714 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,800 running through my veins 715 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,680 To survive in a level four prison, you've got to really be tough. 716 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,520 You know what I mean? 717 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,120 A certain image. 718 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,560 There was violence a lot every day. 719 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,600 You have to participate in a riot, or your own peers 720 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,720 will remove you from the yard. 721 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,200 When I was at Ironwood Prison, it was in 2011 722 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,040 there was a 400 man riot. 723 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,320 I was strongly advised to choose a side, 724 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,920 so I chose a side with the Asians and Filipinos 725 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,440 because I'm half Filipino. 726 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,720 The other race took offence to the person exercising 727 00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:29,160 in their area and it started... 728 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,360 It's like a fire that starts off. 729 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,720 The people are fighting groups of five, groups of 20, groups of 40. 730 00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:40,280 And then it would... You can see it move. 731 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,920 It's almost like a... Almost like a virus. 732 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,040 with the time that remain 733 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,760 I got running through my veins 734 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,920 with the time that remain 735 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:01,960 So your own peers will challenge you, 736 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,360 will...test you 737 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,160 to see if you're able to stay with them. 738 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,520 I call this a big project. 739 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,200 You just can't leave yet. 740 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,760 with the time that remain 741 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,000 running through my veins 742 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,800 Good job, Chris. 743 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,240 All right, Chris. Nice going. 744 00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:51,400 Good work, you guys. You want a drink? 745 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,520 Skull! Ready to go, Steve? 746 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,480 We're probably somewhere around the midway point of the race right now. 747 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:57,960 Guys are looking good. 748 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,680 Markelle looks awesome. 749 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,560 He's got a nice stride going. 750 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,400 Jonathan Chiu, I'm gonna put my money there on the dark horse. 751 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,560 Him and Steve Reese. 752 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,080 Let's go, Markelle! Watch your runners in the lane, fellas. 753 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,440 Let 'em through. 754 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,600 So I've run this race, I've run a marathon on the streets, 755 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,840 and it's really hard to run around for four hours in a circle. 756 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,560 It's like being on a hamster wheel on a track this small. 757 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,800 It's an almost out-of-body experience. 758 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,920 but I won't let it get to me 759 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,280 In San Quentin, you run in these circles. 760 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,520 And you have to trick your mind 761 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,200 to believe that you're somewhere else. 762 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,520 Four hours of running, you can go stir crazy 763 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,800 if you're not thinking about something other than running. 764 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,760 In my mind, I was just focused on that 765 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,040 I was actually out somewhere in society running. 766 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,440 I would block the walls out, the gun towers, 767 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,320 and just go into a zone. 768 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,400 It felt that much closer to freedom, 769 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,960 that much closer to being with family or friends or just... 770 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,440 It just took everything away. 771 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,560 When I came to prison, I thought about really just ending it all. 772 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,240 I mean, because there's no point. 773 00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:15,480 I mean, I'm doing 50 years of life, 774 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,880 and I didn't see a point being in prison. 775 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,800 I mean, I could have just...would have just taken the easy way out 776 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,080 and just kill myself. 777 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,640 When I saw the reality of prison and I saw everybody around me, 778 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,080 I mean, these guys can do it. 779 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,600 I was like, there must be a way just to survive this. 780 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,760 I do think about my crime a lot. 781 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,560 So in a sense, it's like... 782 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,240 ..kind of penance. You know, penance for my crime. 783 00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:47,120 I, like... I kind of feel like, 784 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,480 OK, I caused so much suffering and pain in my victim 785 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,760 and my victim's family that, you know... 786 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,240 Some of that pain is, you know... 787 00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:04,000 Excuse me. 788 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,960 But I deserve some suffering as well, so. 789 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,400 That's part of it. 790 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,040 Excuse me. 791 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,160 They are there for a reason. 792 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,960 I don't get a lot of stories about, 793 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,040 like, "I shouldn't be here", you know? 794 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:34,840 But it's more that, you know, behind every person there, 795 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,640 there really is something. 796 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,960 And there is a story and there is a circumstance 797 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,000 that brought them there, 798 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:46,840 but at the same time, you know, they're just like you and me. 799 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,520 21 miles, Markelle. 21 miles! 800 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,040 Five and a quarter to go. 801 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,920 Come on, Markelle! 802 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,280 I've been with re-entry for four years. 803 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,880 I've been with Markelle for about a year now. 804 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,520 Markelle has been to the board twice. 805 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:37,960 Both denied. 806 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,680 The most recent one this summer, he was denied. 807 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,600 They gave him a three year denial. 808 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,880 So... Which is... Which is good. 809 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,760 You could get a seven year denial. 810 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,560 Um, there are a lot of variables now that are playing out 811 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,240 in California, that he might be called in early. 812 00:44:56,240 --> 00:44:58,400 Did you guys watch Warriors in here? 813 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,240 Oh, yeah. I'm glad they won. 814 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,040 Why should they let me out? 815 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,160 Because I've changed. I'm a better person. 816 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,280 I'm not the same person that committed that crime 817 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,120 17 years ago. 818 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,880 Given the opportunity, um... 819 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,600 ..to be released, er... 820 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,960 I'll be responsible and accountable. 821 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,800 And I have people that I can 822 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,120 help hold me to being accountable for my actions. 823 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,480 I know that I can't drink ever again, 824 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,880 because if I drink, I will die. 825 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,080 If I don't end up back in prison. 826 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,880 And, er, I can't waste 17 years of sobriety. 827 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,240 You're going to the board on October 12th, which is good news. 828 00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:46,520 You gave me your relapse plan. 829 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,840 And I was able to type it up for you. 830 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,800 You were mentioning earlier that you got your psych report back. 831 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,560 This is a copy of it. Yeah. 832 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,120 So, there's a lot of information that's covered here - 833 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:57,440 pretty much your whole life. 834 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,760 But essentially the most important part is the last page, 835 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,640 where it's based on the analysis. 836 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,480 You are a low risk of reoffending 837 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,000 and a low risk of violence. 838 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,400 Yeah. So, that's as good as it gets. 839 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,360 Mm-hm. That's fabulous. 840 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:13,960 That's a great indicator. 841 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,360 So you're way ahead of most other guys. 842 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,800 I got to be. OK. 843 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,000 I know one thing. I'm not going to try to do things on my own no more. 844 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,200 I'm gonna use that support system. 845 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,320 That's one thing I can say. We can't do it on our own. 846 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,320 I tried to do that on my own, and it failed. 847 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,880 I failed tremendously. 848 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,520 A 15 and life sentence because I tried doing everything on my own. 849 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,360 So, get help, 850 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,000 instead of holding it in. 851 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,960 Because if you hold it in, that's when... 852 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,320 ..you explode. 853 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,000 And sometimes when you explode, if you don't kill yourself 854 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,160 or hurt yourself, you're gonna hurt somebody else. 855 00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:58,880 That's not good, so... 856 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,440 Of course, I still have a little bit of fear. 857 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,840 Because a little bit of fear keeps you in check. 858 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,880 It's like, balance you out. 859 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:13,320 But for the most part, I have a new way to live. 860 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,880 Two laps to go! Two laps to go! 861 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,800 25.75. 862 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,920 You got this, Markelle. 863 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,040 I know it hurts like hell. Come on! 864 00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:30,760 I had a stepfather that was very abusive. 865 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,960 That was a nightmare in itself. 866 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,320 He used drugs, drank, cocaine. 867 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,280 Found out later on he had a third grade education, 868 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,480 and my mom did everything for him. 869 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,800 26 miles! 870 00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:51,120 One inside lap... 871 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,040 No, you got to go around - inside. 872 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,160 Being abused by my stepfather 873 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,760 growing up, since I was like seven years old, 874 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,720 sleeping in closets, 875 00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:10,760 whupped, being punched on. And the drugs. 876 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,800 I done seen that. 877 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,560 Watching my mom get slapped around. 878 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,960 And I had a family that liked to fight. 879 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,360 You know, they...beat each other up all the time. 880 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,520 So, I mean, I've been around violence all my life. 881 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,160 Yeah, Markelle! 882 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,400 Bring it on in, Markelle! 883 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,320 You can stop running right around there. 884 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:46,880 Nice work. 885 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,520 You got it! First finisher! 886 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,960 CHEERING 887 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,920 All right, Steve, I got it. 888 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,280 Have a seat. 889 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,280 23.25. 890 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,440 Three left. 891 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:06,920 The champ! 892 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,560 14.75! 893 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,320 Keep going, Troy. You're good. 894 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,800 that I'm tryin' to get in 895 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,400 I promise my mind I'm the vision 896 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,520 Lookin' good! Lookin' good! 897 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,640 Good job, Darren. 898 00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,680 19.5! 19.5! 899 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,760 Great, Tommy! 900 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,040 Being a parent in prison, and a husband, 901 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,120 that's harder than being a gang member or a drug addict. 902 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,520 I would love to be out there to help my mom and dad 903 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,440 but, more than likely, I won't be there to help my mom and dad, 904 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,440 and I'll be lucky if I get to help my wife. 905 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,520 And I'll be really lucky if I get to be out there with my grandkids 906 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,760 because all my kids, they're growing now. 907 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,280 I missed all that because of my dumb choices. 908 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,360 That's pain, it's not anger. I'm not mad at nothing any more. 909 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,040 And if I get a little irritated, I'll go out and I'll run. 910 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,280 Tommy's running under an eight minute pace, 911 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,480 was kind of his goal, 912 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,040 which, if he does that, he'll be happy. 913 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,760 Right when we got there, we got inside, 914 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,280 put everything where it needed to be, and then he took his shirt off 915 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,760 and, like, I haven't seen him without a shirt on, 916 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,280 only in pictures, and it was kind of surprising, 917 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,520 so I was like, OK, took my shirt off, 918 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,440 and then we kind of walked up to him and just picked him up 919 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,840 and dropped him on the couch. HE LAUGHS 920 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,840 And it was just... It was just cool. 921 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,080 I've never been able to do that before. 922 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,280 He straight took the words out of my mouth. 923 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,360 I didn't even bring it up and he told me. He's like, "I'm sorry. 924 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,840 "I wish I was there to teach you all these things." 925 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,680 He brought all that up before I did. 926 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,640 So it was very satisfying just to know 927 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,840 that I'm not the only one thinking about it. 928 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,040 He thinks about that on a daily, he said, 929 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:36,120 and it was just really cool to hear it from him, so I'm happy. 930 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,000 Very happy. 931 00:51:41,240 --> 00:51:44,000 Have fun, OK? You, too. Thanks for everything. 932 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,440 I'll see you soon. I love you, Mom. 933 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,680 Be good. You, too. Stay out of trouble. I will. 934 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,680 Shoot, that's the wrong way to do that. 935 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,160 Crap! 936 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,280 Come on, you know how to do this! 937 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:06,520 Marian and I were a team and she's had her work cut out with me, 938 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,520 getting me back on track as a good person, as a husband, 939 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,520 as a positive male role model, period, 940 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,120 because I was messed up from the life that I was living for so long. 941 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:20,520 I mean, 18 years old to, what, 35... 942 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,320 ..I didn't care about too much. 943 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,360 SIREN 944 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,760 I went out drunk one night, drinking with a couple of buddies, 945 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,040 and one thing led to another, 946 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,800 we drove through the store doors because the store was closed. 947 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,520 They hit the doors, boom! 948 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,880 I was like, "What the heck?!", and I booked. 949 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,280 I came back. That's where I messed up. 950 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,760 As soon as I came back I was a part of it, and I took all the Funyuns. 951 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,680 They gave me a commercial burglary and forever my life was changed. 952 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:04,200 I worked for LA County and we would teach the county inmates. 953 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,600 Rehab. 954 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:10,040 I never thought that he would be one of the workers, or the inmate. 955 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,040 I just... Just never did. 956 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,840 But when he turned 18... 957 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,280 ..he seen another life and he went for it. 958 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,040 Because all his whole... His younger life, he wanted to be a Sheriff. 959 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,760 1985, LA County Jail. I was just a long-haired country boy. 960 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,600 I don't know if you guys know how tight 961 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,440 country boys wear their clothes, but it's pretty tight. 962 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:41,040 Well, in jail, in prison, you don't want your clothes tight, erm, so... 963 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,920 There was this older Mexican guy and he's like, "Hey, homes, 964 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,280 "you want to trade jumpsuits?" I was like, "Heck yeah! Here you go, bro." 965 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,640 I squeeze in his jumpsuit thinking I'm all country boy'd back, right? 966 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,760 I remember walking through the chow line and everybody's looking at me 967 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,040 cos I had long hair, my little wings on the side. 968 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,120 I mean, this is 1985. I'm just 18. 969 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,760 And I remember the guys walking through the chow line, 970 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,280 they were the biggest dudes I've ever seen in my life. 971 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,040 They had muscles on top of muscles. 972 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,040 And I remember when I got my tray, this big old dude said, 973 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,040 "You're the finest thing that's been through here in a long time." 974 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,960 I just looked at him, like, "Whoa, dude." 975 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,280 He came out and he had this "Peckerwood" on him. 976 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,040 He'd joined the Peckerwoods. 977 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,520 I says, "Tommy, you know what you're doing?" 978 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,680 And he had a swastika on his calf. 979 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,280 He's still got it. 980 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,760 I says, "You know what this stands for?" 981 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,040 He says, "They're good people, Dad." I says, "No, they're not." 982 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,520 Well, about a week later, him and his homies 983 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,760 are going down the boulevard, and there's these three blacks, 984 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,440 they all jump out and start beating up on these blacks, 985 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,040 and Tommy says, "What the hell are you guys doing?!" 986 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,280 He gets out and helps the blacks. 987 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:48,760 He's naive. He didn't know what a Peckerwood was and he joined them. 988 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,680 Don't be stupid, Tom. I mean, he... He was... 989 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,040 He led a sheltered life until he left here, 990 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,840 and then it was like... 991 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,040 A Mexican guy that I live with said, "Tommy, you should cut your hair." 992 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,040 There's only one kind of haircut you're going to get in a county jail 993 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,520 with a shaving razor, and that's bald, so everybody 994 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,360 thought I was a skinhead, so I was fighting everybody anyway. 995 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,920 Because of my fights and my behaviour, they housed me 996 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,680 with some of the most dangerous LA gang members there are 997 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,800 and I learned that gang mentality, and I brought it up to my hometown 998 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,040 and I was involved with gangs ever since. 999 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,360 Six months I was in jail, I got out, 1000 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,480 I got a job working for the Iron Workers Union, section slate 509. 1001 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,200 The next thing you know, they asked me, "Hey, can you weld?" 1002 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,440 So I did a couple beads for them and they're like, 1003 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,360 "We're sending you to school. We're going to get you certified." 1004 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,920 Well, there was a couple of guys there that was doing speed 1005 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,840 and I started doing speed, and the next thing you know I quit 1006 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,520 and said, "I'm going to make more money making...or selling drugs"... 1007 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:52,000 ..and then I went to jail right after that for strong-armed robbery. 1008 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,520 Prison didn't make me a better person. 1009 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:59,560 It taught me everything that I needed to be a criminal, an outlaw. 1010 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,680 Your cousin Kenny's getting married in three weeks. 1011 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,760 Man, is that right? Yep. 1012 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,520 Is he still with that same gal? Yeah, same gal. 1013 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,080 They've been together, what, 17, 18 years. 1014 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,040 Right. Yeah, that's a long time. Yeah. 1015 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,680 We won't go down that road. 1016 00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,520 Want to talk to your mom? Yeah. 1017 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:20,920 OK. 1018 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,520 Love you, love you, love you. Love you, love you, love you. 1019 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,440 Hi, hon. 1020 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,520 Hello, Mom. How are you? 1021 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,040 This call and your telephone number will be monitored and recorded. 1022 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,320 We know. SHE LAUGHS 1023 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,040 Well, the guy that I ended up killing 1024 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,440 was my homeboy Tim Carter, 1025 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,040 the father of my stepson. 1026 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,280 So, erm... Because he had shot at me prior, too, 1027 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,360 and it's like, man, this dude's really trying to play for keeps, 1028 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,360 and I told him, we made up. 1029 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:56,840 And then that night, he was up there in the house cooking drugs, and... 1030 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,080 ..I walked in and I was going to take his drugs, that's all I wanted, 1031 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,280 but when he pulled the gun on me and he grazed the right side of my head 1032 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,040 with the...with the... 1033 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:10,040 ..with the gun, and I took the gun and now he's dead. 1034 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:11,680 It was just a terrible night. 1035 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,280 As soon as it happened, I knew my life was done. 1036 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,120 That's why I just told 'em, 1037 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,760 "Get me anything without a life sentence. I'm guilty." 1038 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,040 And I've never been to a trial. 1039 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,520 I've always took a deal. Five times I took a deal because I'm guilty. 1040 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,040 I mean, I'm not going to waste the state's money 1041 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:29,760 and sit in a county jail. 1042 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,720 Just give me... Give me the deal. 1043 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,040 They came back and said, "Plead guilty to voluntary manslaughter." 1044 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,040 OK, cool. That's 11 years. 1045 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,200 No, but you're a three-striker, so they strike that strike. 1046 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,680 That 11 turns into 22. 1047 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:46,840 Then you get five years for each prior prison term. That's 15 more. 1048 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,440 And ten for the gun and ten for the gang. 1049 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,520 So it's a total of 46 years of enhancements on that charge. 1050 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,520 All I had to do is just keep going to work and going home, 1051 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,040 but, no, I had to go over to that house that night 1052 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:00,840 to come up one more time. 1053 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,040 I mean, did I really win the fight that night? 1054 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,360 Did I really win, to grow old and die in prison? 1055 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,440 I've been sober and gang-free for 15 years now, 1056 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,040 so I'm off to a good start. 1057 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,040 My wife pushes me to believe that I'm going to be out 1058 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,760 before calendars. That's her exact words. 1059 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,560 So, hopefully, honey. HE CHUCKLES 1060 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:24,760 2053 is my EPRD - earliest possible release date. 1061 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,280 I'll be 86 years old, but if I keep running I'll be all right. 1062 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,240 You've got to stay positive. 1063 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,840 21.5! 21.5! 1064 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,640 You got it! You got it! 1065 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,040 Tommy, way to go! 1066 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,040 You got it! You got it! 1067 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,920 Have some water, Eddie. Thank you. Good job. 1068 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,320 Six-twelve. 1069 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,040 I've got you, Al. 1070 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,040 One more lap. Look, he's picking it up. 1071 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,360 Nice! 1072 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,920 You look good, man. New York! New York! 1073 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:13,280 Selling drugs, for me, came late in the game. Like, when I was 25, 26. 1074 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:17,440 I just felt angry. Like, doing everything right and being picked on 1075 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:21,040 or being a victim to the world. I feel like, just put my foot down. 1076 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,360 And, for me, putting my foot down meant... 1077 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,440 ..this righteous anger that was unproductive, 1078 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,040 and I started feeling like I wasn't going to make it in society 1079 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,480 in another way because I didn't see hope. 1080 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,600 In the year 2000, here in California, 1081 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,440 I took part in what was a drug deal. 1082 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,040 The guys, they didn't bring money, they brought guns. 1083 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,040 And I shouldn't have been there, I shouldn't have had a gun, 1084 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,520 I should have said, "You can just have the bag", 1085 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:52,800 but, when they said, "Robbery!", I lost it and I reacted in violence. 1086 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,520 I killed one man, I put another man in critical. 1087 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,520 This happened in broad daylight in a parking lot, so I endangered 1088 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,920 anybody that could have been walking by at the time 1089 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,120 because I couldn't let it go, I couldn't let them 1090 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,240 take something from me - my ego, my pride, 1091 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,400 so I'm here because I'm convicted of murder. 1092 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,520 An older guy that I was in Calipatria with named Samir, 1093 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,760 he saw my anger and he said, "Youngster, there's nobody 1094 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,360 "you can beat up that's going to get you out of prison. 1095 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,360 "In fact, that's going to make it worse." 1096 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,920 And so when I started thinking about that, I realised, 1097 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,120 "Damn, I'm throwing my life away over anger." 1098 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,360 When I had this revelation, it was in Calipatria. 1099 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,280 a level four prison, there were no groups, there were no therapy. 1100 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,440 All they had was Jesus, Muhammad and Buddha. 1101 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,280 So I started going to all the religious services, just trying 1102 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,040 to find a direction, and 55 to life back then, the Governor, 1103 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,040 life meant life - there wasn't all this mass incarceration hope 1104 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:42,040 we have now. It meant you was never going home. 1105 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:48,280 So I started being good not for a Parole Board or to go home, 1106 01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,840 but maybe to make it to heaven. And still I don't want to 1107 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,120 make the system think they were right about me. 1108 01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,040 I want to show that I was a better person than you thought I was 1109 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,280 and I want to show my mother I'm a better son 1110 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,040 and you didn't waste your time. 1111 01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,520 All his life, pretty much, he worked a job. 1112 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,920 He was a working guy, went to school, a regular person. 1113 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,840 Hey, G, I need a copy of Message To My Younger Self. 1114 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,280 You need a copy of it? Yeah. All right. All right? That's good? 1115 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:22,360 I think just the problem-solving techniques he used was wrong 1116 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:26,040 and I think that he knows that but he's never going to get a chance... 1117 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,280 ..to be free... 1118 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,280 ..to really redo his story, 1119 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:36,040 so now he's trying to live his story in prison. 1120 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:37,920 And then you go... 1121 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,160 ..but people just still see that he's in prison. 1122 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,040 Very good to see you, man. 1123 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:49,040 What?! See? What?! See? What's up, man? 1124 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,280 San Quentin is the only prison that has a Society 1125 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,040 of Professional Journalists chapter in it at all, 1126 01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,280 and today we're going to show off some projects that we made, 1127 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,080 basically cross training. 1128 01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,120 Like, for instance, I'm a writer 1129 01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,760 and today you're going to see two videos I produced. 1130 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,040 Other guys that are audio journalists are now doing videos, 1131 01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,040 some of them are doing writing, and we did art installations. 1132 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,600 We didn't know what that was a year ago, right? 1133 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,080 If I had a chance to talk to my young self, 1134 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,520 I would tell my young self that Big Daddy Kane is not your daddy 1135 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,920 and what he's teaching you is how to get the respect of a loser. 1136 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,120 The way you get power is not from something outside yourself, 1137 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,520 it's something that God already gave you, 1138 01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,920 and that's what I would tell my young self. 1139 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,560 15 to life is for second degree murder, 1140 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,680 five-and-a-half years is for attempted voluntary manslaughter 1141 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,200 for the guy that survived, 1142 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,240 additional 25 to life for the use of a gun 1143 01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,360 and another ten years for the use of a gun 1144 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,720 that great bodily injury on the other guy. 1145 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:02,840 So it's 20 years for the crime 1146 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,360 and 35 years extra in gun enhancements. 1147 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,120 I think he's going to finish. 1148 01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:10,680 I think we might be here until the afternoon, but that's fine. 1149 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,440 We've got all day. 1150 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:19,040 If you're running a marathon or if you've got a life sentence, 1151 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,280 it's too overwhelming to think about how much farther you've got to go. 1152 01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:27,360 You just do one step at a time, one day at a time, one hour at a time, 1153 01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:31,040 and just try to be productive every single day. 1154 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,040 Hey, this is 15 miles. 1155 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:40,520 Hang in there. 1156 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:44,280 Over the years, I've become a little bit more attuned 1157 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,760 into our current prison system, 1158 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,520 and I'm frankly pretty appalled 1159 01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,240 when I read that, erm... 1160 01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:58,680 ..the United States has 5% of the world's population 1161 01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,760 and 25% of the prison population. 1162 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:06,000 And I think there are a lot of guys 1163 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,040 in prison that really... 1164 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,120 ..don't belong there. 1165 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,760 Well done, Rahsaan! 1166 01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,520 131, now! We're on 131! 1167 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:26,040 The last six miles of a marathon are super intense experiences, 1168 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,360 so when you share that experience with a bunch of people, 1169 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,280 it leaves its mark 1170 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,280 and it changes who you are. 1171 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,520 Walk right back in the lane. Everybody going through. 1172 01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,280 Let's go, fellas. It's going to be a long day. 1173 01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,840 What's up? Yes, sir. How you doing? We're getting 40... 1174 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,040 I'll be back, man. All right. 1175 01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,280 They're coming down right now. Don't let 'em get down in my line. 1176 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,000 I'll be right back. 1177 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,920 Hey. Welcome, everybody. I'm glad you could make it 1178 01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,520 to the American Sign Language class here in San Quentin. 1179 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,280 In order to talk to my brother I had to know sign language, 1180 01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:06,400 so I grew up with sign language, so I wrote a proposal up 1181 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,520 and sent it to the AW, and they were like, "No way, dude, 1182 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,280 "you're not teaching sign language 1183 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,280 "in a level four maximum security prison. 1184 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,400 "That's how you guys communicate in the hall." 1185 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,040 The next weekend, with my brother on a visit, 1186 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,280 they see me talking to him in sign language, 1187 01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,360 they're like, "Send that proposal back 1188 01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,480 "and we're going to get this approved." 1189 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,480 Five years later, 16 guys on the yard learned sign language, 1190 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,280 from all backgrounds. This is a very diverse group. 1191 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,040 As you can see, I like diversity. 1192 01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,520 And not only can we learn sign language to work with at risk youth, 1193 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,840 the deaf children or the deaf community, 1194 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,000 if you learn this and you get certified, 1195 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,720 that's $75 to $100 an hour just as a translator. 1196 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,040 You apply yourself and get this under your belt, 1197 01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,680 you'll be ready to be certified as soon as you get out of here. 1198 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,920 Football. You've got to remember all that. 1199 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,120 And then tennis. It's basically the movement of the sport, so... 1200 01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,080 Running. 1201 01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,280 And then one, two, three. Runner. And then personalise it. 1202 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,040 Runner. I am a runner. OK. 1203 01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,360 I... I... Am... Am... A... 1204 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,040 A... 1205 01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,080 Runner.Runner. 1206 01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,040 All right, Tommy, this is where all that work pays off. 1207 01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,760 One inside lap! All right, Larry. One inside lap! 1208 01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,760 That was a good lap, Larry. Nice work. 1209 01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,760 Second place, Eddie Herena. 1210 01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,040 03:37:20. 1211 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,920 Third place, Chris Scull. 1212 01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,640 03:42:25. 1213 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:38,040 Super proud of you. Give it to me, man. 1214 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,280 Fourth place, Vincente Gomez. 1215 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,880 03:42:41. 1216 01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,280 Fifth place, Tommy Wickerd. 1217 01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:57,040 03:46:16. 1218 01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,040 Sixth place, Jonathan Chiu. 1219 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:01,840 One second behind. 1220 01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,280 03:46:17. 1221 01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,840 When you're around a runner, the last thing you're going to do is, 1222 01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,520 "I want to go mess this up" 1223 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,920 or, "I want to put something foul in my body." 1224 01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,360 There's none of that. It's all positive stuff. 1225 01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:18,040 OK, here comes Sergio, seventh place finisher. 1226 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:21,680 Running in San Quentin really saved me. 1227 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,520 Big dog, we did it, dog! 1228 01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,800 It just changed my life forever. 1229 01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:27,360 Woo! 1230 01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,520 That was a nice finish from you and Chiu. 1231 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,280 That was a great move. 1232 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,280 It's a good day, dog. It's a good day. 1233 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,920 Eighth place, Steve Brooks. Yes, Steve! 1234 01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,040 Four hours and 12 seconds. 1235 01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:46,040 Ninth place, Jon Levin. 1236 01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,280 04:03:06. 1237 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,280 Tenth place, Larry Ford. 1238 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,040 04:06:25. 1239 01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:58,760 Larry becomes our first fifth-time finisher. 1240 01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:03,320 Thank you, Lord, for allowing us to be in this day, in this race, 1241 01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,600 and enjoy this beautiful day that you give to us to run 1242 01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,320 and the strength that you give to us. Thank you, Lord. 1243 01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,520 In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen. 1244 01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,120 Yes, thank you. 1245 01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:14,680 Woo! 1246 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,720 Let's go, Al! Come on, Al! Right now. 1247 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,040 This is the 11th place, 1248 01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,040 Al Yaseng. 1249 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,520 Tommy, you were... You were the most focused one out there. 1250 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:34,240 You were, like, game face. Right. Not, like, smiling. It's good. 1251 01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:38,520 OK, number 12 finisher, Lee Goins. 1252 01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,800 Timbuktu. Timbuk! 1253 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,040 All right, good job. 1254 01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:44,800 Nice job. 1255 01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:48,040 You can stop! That's it! You're done! 1256 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:49,760 Lee, you're done! 1257 01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,040 Yeah! 1258 01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:58,760 Man. 1259 01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,320 Told y'all I'm from New Orleans. Woo... 1260 01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,040 Good job. I don't know what happened to this. 1261 01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,280 Good job, good job. All right. 1262 01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:11,520 Well, we've had 12 marathon finishers so far. 1263 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,760 Now I just want Rahsaan to finish. 1264 01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,280 HE LAUGHS 1265 01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:18,040 So, my training sucked. 1266 01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,280 Erm, it started off great. 1267 01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,840 I was doing... I was doing this, I was determined, 1268 01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,120 and then we had that three-week lockdown, 1269 01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,360 and then there was the smoke inhalation from Napa. 1270 01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,120 The poor air quality days. 1271 01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,040 And then there's my own cold. 1272 01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,280 So my training... My training fell off. 1273 01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:37,840 But even at best, I only run, maybe... At best I run twice a week. 1274 01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:39,440 At best. 1275 01:09:39,440 --> 01:09:43,280 Erm, and maybe that's not enough to do the Markelle, 1276 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,040 so I have to work on that. 1277 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,360 But it's just so hard. I'm in college, I work, 1278 01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:50,680 I just finished Guiding Rage Into Power, which is a self-help group. 1279 01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,920 I just do so much. I'm in creative writing, the policy workshop. 1280 01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,760 I got so much going on. And then there's only limited times 1281 01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,320 you can shower, so it's just hard to navigate all that. 1282 01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,440 Two miles to go. Just keep it up. 1283 01:10:01,440 --> 01:10:03,360 No-one said it was going to be easy. 1284 01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,760 You're doing great. Just hang in there. 1285 01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:13,280 I applied to Governor for commutation of my sentence, 1286 01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,280 and what that would do, if the Governor is so inclined, 1287 01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,040 it would give me a time cut. 1288 01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,280 So, right now, about 55 to life sentence, 1289 01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,760 and he can reduce that as much as he wants. 1290 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,440 When I got here, I got into a restorative justice group. 1291 01:10:27,440 --> 01:10:31,280 Hearing victims, you realise what you did to that person's family, 1292 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,360 you realise what you did to them people. 1293 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,040 You realise the ramifications - 1294 01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,920 how many people care about somebody else. The ripple effect. 1295 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,280 And when you see the impact, it just changes it, 1296 01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,520 because until then, violence almost feels cartoonish. 1297 01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,120 Because you might fire some shots and then you run 1298 01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:47,880 and you never see what you did. 1299 01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,040 You never see the victims at the funeral, you never see the ambulance 1300 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,440 pumping and doing all the stuff that they need to do 1301 01:10:53,440 --> 01:10:55,760 and you are able to ignore it in your mind. 1302 01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,440 But when you face the victims and look at those tears 1303 01:10:58,440 --> 01:11:01,920 and know what you did and know that you did it to your family, too. 1304 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,680 You know, on the one hand, at a place like San Quentin, 1305 01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,520 getting up close and personal like we have over all this time, 1306 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,760 like, you see the success of it. 1307 01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:20,040 It's like, OK, you know what? These guys are reformed. 1308 01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:23,000 Like, they're ready to go out into society. 1309 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,080 Like, I would feel comfortable 1310 01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,720 having people here in my living room. 1311 01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:33,360 So that is a case of, like, successful rehabilitation. 1312 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,280 But most of these guys, or a lot of them, 1313 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:40,680 will never get out or won't get out until they're 80 or 90 years old. 1314 01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,320 So, then, what's the point of that? 1315 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,840 What's the benefit to the society of holding people in prison? 1316 01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:52,280 When I take a step back and I think of why every ghetto in America 1317 01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,600 has these same elements, what's going on? 1318 01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:57,760 And I think it's just something way bigger than individual free will 1319 01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,760 or individual choices. I think that the invisible walls, 1320 01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:03,760 the frustration from all the invisible walls blocking you in. 1321 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,520 Somebody's beating you up and you can't see who's doing it. 1322 01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,680 They're doing it from way up in the penthouse 1323 01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,360 or the White House or whatever, 1324 01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,800 and I think that it makes people act some kind of way. 1325 01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,840 Now that I've let go of that anger, good opportunities come to me. 1326 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:19,280 When you're angry all the time, you create... You attract negativity. 1327 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,640 People feed off that. It just brings rain clouds. 1328 01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,520 But when you're happy, man, even when something bad happens, 1329 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,920 you find a silver lining and you're still smiling. 1330 01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,520 I'm supposed to be miserable. 1331 01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,760 You're entering the final lap here! 1332 01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,320 I'm supposed to be a failure. 1333 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,760 I'm supposed to give up. I'm supposed to die in here. 1334 01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,520 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Go! Go! Go! 1335 01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:55,280 06:12:23. Welcome to the alumni, son! 1336 01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,040 You're a marathon runner! 1337 01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:00,040 I got the record, coach. The longest time. 1338 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,760 06:12:23. Is that the longest time? That's the longest time. 1339 01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:07,880 Woo! For all the people that come in last, I did this for us! 1340 01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,760 He also set a record. 13th finisher, and that's a record. 1341 01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:14,240 That's a record? First-ever. We've never had more than 12 before. 1342 01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,280 Woo! 13th finisher! 1343 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,680 Great job. Great job, Rahsaan. 1344 01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,360 This is for my mom, who didn't think I was an athlete. 1345 01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:25,040 For everybody who was in a baseball club but never got to play. 1346 01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,360 For everybody who went out to play basketball 1347 01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,040 and they told you you had next and you're still waiting. 1348 01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:31,600 LAUGHTER 1349 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,040 For everybody... LAUGHTER 1350 01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:37,680 ..that understands that he who is last shall be first sooner or later, 1351 01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,360 just not today. 1352 01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,040 Woo! Good job. Yeah! APPLAUSE 1353 01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,520 Nice work. Thank you. 1354 01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:46,840 I want to thank all my coaches... Amen. 1355 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,280 ..who got me through the last five miles 1356 01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:53,280 when I was getting ready to quit. We had our doubts, but you did it. 1357 01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,280 What was the spread? Man, I got paid, son! 1358 01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:58,040 HE LAUGHS 1359 01:13:59,480 --> 01:14:02,040 And it's not even count time yet. What time is it? 1360 01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,760 It's only 2:41pm. We did it. 1361 01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:09,760 Woo-wee. 1362 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,760 Now I've got to go upstairs. Up all them stairs. 1363 01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:14,920 Who's going to get me up them stairs? 1364 01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:16,680 I didn't think about the stairs. 1365 01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:18,760 Oh, my God, I live on the fifth tier. 1366 01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,760 I got a lot of that out of the way, though. 1367 01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:22,200 It's going to be tough. 1368 01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,200 That was great. Come here. 1369 01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:25,840 Tommy, you good up there? 1370 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:27,200 Congratulations. 1371 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,040 Thanks for counting for me. Hey. 1372 01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:33,280 Thanks for being there with the water and the nutrients. Yeah. 1373 01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:38,040 You happy? Erm, yeah. All right. Still alive, so happy. 1374 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:41,440 All right. So I'm happy. I'm still in prison, so not that happy. 1375 01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,520 That was fun. Great day. Hey, awesome. 1376 01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:50,040 We'll take a month off in December and do it all again next year. 1377 01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:53,800 All right, y'all, we love y'all. See you. Bye. 1378 01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,520 Kind of picked it up there towards the end. 1379 01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,120 Tommy ran great. 1380 01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,040 Yeah. Tommy was just hoping to break... 1381 01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:02,760 I know, 3:46. 1382 01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:07,040 And you know what? Darren ran really well, considering. 1383 01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:11,280 And his buddy, Vince, I was surprised he hit 21 miles. 1384 01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,280 Yeah, that was good, Frank. 1385 01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:14,960 Great day. 1386 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,600 I was really hoping to break my record or clear three. 1387 01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:21,760 I was thinking, OK, if that goal is not reachable, 1388 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:26,520 at least maybe I can get in between my best time 1389 01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,120 and my second best time. 1390 01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,120 And I was able to do that and I'm glad I was able to do that, so... 1391 01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:36,920 I'll be buckled down on starting to get ready for the Board again. 1392 01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:40,280 What they wanted last time, more insight or... 1393 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:45,520 ..more time, I'm going to give them all of that 1394 01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:49,040 because I do want to run with the coach when I get out. 1395 01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:13,520 It's lock up. Off your phones, out of the shower... 1396 01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,280 THUNDER 1397 01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:26,280 Is that him? 1398 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,280 You guys, that might be him. 1399 01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,040 INDISTINCT QUIP 1400 01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:45,760 LAUGHTER 1401 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,040 Markelle, get out here. CHEERING 1402 01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:49,760 Nice hat! Nice hat! 1403 01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,040 CHEERING Man! 1404 01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,760 How are you all doing? Man, we've got to get you a better hat. 1405 01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,280 I love your headgear, man. This is my 1000 Mile Club hat. 1406 01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,680 OK. Nice. Did you get any sleep last night? 1407 01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,760 No. No! LAUGHTER 1408 01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,040 Man. You made it. 1409 01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:07,520 Yeah. 1410 01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:11,280 Man. 1411 01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,040 I'm just happy to be out. Happy to be free. 1412 01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,280 Overwhelmed. 1413 01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,520 I'm really feeling overwhelmed. 1414 01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:26,040 And I'm anxious to just get this all behind me, you know what I mean? 1415 01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,280 Just to be able to start my new life. 1416 01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,840 Why don't you try a Tuscany? 1417 01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:34,040 A Tuscany? What number is that? I mean... 1418 01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,280 Right under. Oh, OK. The chicken breast with mushroom... 1419 01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:40,880 Almond... OK. 1420 01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,520 You want potatoes or fries? French fries. 1421 01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:45,280 Fries. Got it. Any drink? 1422 01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:49,040 Fresh orange juice, fresh cranberry juice... Orange juice. 1423 01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:50,280 OK. 1424 01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:53,040 Do I look like I just got out of prison? 1425 01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:54,960 No. OK, good. 1426 01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:59,000 I'm still just trying to learn how to be free. 1427 01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:09,040 See, I want to be able to learn how to cook like this. 1428 01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,520 All in time, my friend. 1429 01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:26,760 Re-acclimating myself back into society, 1430 01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,280 starting over, living life as a civilian. 1431 01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:32,040 just taking it day by day, hour by hour, 1432 01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:33,920 so I can take it all in. 1433 01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:39,680 I think if I just came in and just ran on my own, 1434 01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:42,560 I would have never envisioned or even dreamed 1435 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,680 of ever trying to run in the Boston Marathon. 1436 01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:47,760 One minute! 1437 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,920 I'm proud of Markelle and I'm really happy for him. 1438 01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:55,840 I know when I got serious about my distance running, 1439 01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,760 my goal was to qualify for Boston. 1440 01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:02,080 It'll be a big deal for Markelle 1441 01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,680 and it'll be a big deal for all the guys in the club. 1442 01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:12,520 I've never been on the East Coast, so the ride on the plane, 1443 01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:15,520 everything is going to be a brand-new experience for me 1444 01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:19,040 and I'm just going to enjoy the moment. 1445 01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:21,760 All right, good luck to you. 1446 01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:26,080 Here's a card from the guys at 1000 Mile Club. 1447 01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:28,760 Ooh, this is different. 1448 01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,040 Are you all right there? Yeah. 1449 01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:34,040 Everything is different here, man. I'm normally just walking. 1450 01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,440 My personal best is 3:10. 1451 01:19:36,440 --> 01:19:39,040 What I'm trying to do in Boston is... 1452 01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:42,760 ..break three hours. 1453 01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:48,280 Look what I got from Frank right before getting on the plane. 1454 01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,440 Tommy wrote me some letters. 1455 01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:56,280 "It's been an honour to spend three-and-a-half years of my life 1456 01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,680 "with the fastest man in San Quentin. 1457 01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:00,760 "I am so proud of my true brother. 1458 01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,520 "All of the hurdles he overcame and all of the hard work 1459 01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,680 "he put into becoming a member of free society. 1460 01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:10,040 "While he still has time to be an inspiration 1461 01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:14,520 "and prove to all of our 1000 Mile Club coaches 1462 01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,760 "that all of their time and hard work was not in vain. 1463 01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,280 "Markelle 'The Gazelle' Taylor is free 1464 01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:22,600 "and about to run the Boston Marathon." 1465 01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:24,280 STARTING GUN 1466 01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:29,520 The 123rd running of the Boston Marathon is under way. 1467 01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,760 "I love and miss you, brother. 1468 01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,040 "26.2 to life." 1469 01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:42,760 I know that there's a lot of guys that worked just as hard as I did 1470 01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,520 and wasn't given the opportunity. 1471 01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,120 But I know it's coming, I know their time is coming, 1472 01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:49,760 I really believe that. 1473 01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:52,680 You know, they told me that they couldn't wait for me to get out. 1474 01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,760 They said, "Man, get out, because we know that we're following 1475 01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,520 "right behind", so whenever there's a lifer getting out, 1476 01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:00,840 it gives another guy that's a lifer hope. 1477 01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,840 So I'm hope for those guys that are left behind. 1478 01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:05,760 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1479 01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:12,040 Let's give it up for Ty again. Come on, Ty. Good job, man. 1480 01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:20,680 Well, December, I'll start my 18th year sober and no gang activity. 1481 01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,360 CHEERING 1482 01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:28,280 I lost my Pa in March and my Uncle Bill a year before that, 1483 01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:31,520 and the last time they walked out of this visiting room, 1484 01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,880 they told me, "You're the son and nephew that we raised you to be." 1485 01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:38,840 I could talk to the youngsters about how bad gangs and drugs were, 1486 01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:42,040 but I couldn't tell them how important education was 1487 01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:43,840 when I didn't have it myself. 1488 01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:45,520 I can now. 1489 01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:47,280 CHEERING 1490 01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:54,040 LAUGHTER 1491 01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:58,760 but can't come out 1492 01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:00,760 some real, some fake 1493 01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:02,520 they make a mouse 1494 01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,040 Thinking dude cool, man 1495 01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,280 till you see a few things 1496 01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,360 like they go to 2 Chainz 1497 01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:14,280 You are now tuned in to San Quentin's Ear Hustle 1498 01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:17,520 from PRX's Radiotopia. I am Rahsaan 'New York' Thomas, 1499 01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,520 a resident of San Quentin State Prison 1500 01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,920 serving a life sentence for second degree murder. 1501 01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:28,920 for more than one person 1502 01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:35,040 I just feel like I am my brother's keeper. 1503 01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:40,040 That, erm, if he needs help, I'm going to try to help him. 1504 01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:44,560 And I feel like these guys over there, 1505 01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,400 they need help... 1506 01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:49,520 ..and they appreciate whatever help they get. 1507 01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:52,360 and thinking dumb 1508 01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:54,440 and drugs in the slums 1509 01:22:54,440 --> 01:22:56,360 to where I'm from 1510 01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,520 just in different ways 1511 01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:00,760 just in a different place 1512 01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:02,760 just a different pace 1513 01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:06,600 of the mind of the masses 1514 01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:09,000 can hear me loud and clearly 1515 01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,120 I think before I worked on myself in the self-help groups 1516 01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:19,040 and the running and all the support that I have, 1517 01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:23,040 and me feeling a lot better about myself than I did in my past... 1518 01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:27,880 ..I'm not going to say I'm 100% cured. 1519 01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:30,760 I'm still a work in progress. 1520 01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:37,520 for more than one person 1521 01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:41,520 so tired of hurting 1522 01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,760 if we come together 1523 01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:50,040 at least that's what we was told 1524 01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,120 to blow grass and sell dope 1525 01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:57,760 when you got to call home 1526 01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,040 A hope was a joke, man 1527 01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,040 thinking that's how it go 1528 01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,920 young brother from the streets 1529 01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,560 the beast cos the weak can't eat 1530 01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,200 when they lock us in prison? 1531 01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:13,040 in blocks 1532 01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,040 come for jobs 1533 01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,440 when will it stop? 1534 01:24:17,440 --> 01:24:20,280 know till we make that endeavour 1535 01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,200 must be severed 1536 01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:24,040 of perception 1537 01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:26,040 to a higher place 1538 01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:27,920 you couldn't reach it 1539 01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,040 Another one! CHEERING 1540 01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:38,360 What the...? 1541 01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:40,280 Oh, my God. 1542 01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:42,760 Yeah! Yeah! 1543 01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,280 as my grandfather 1544 01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,040 then why we still trying? 1545 01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,600 of seeing my mother crying 1546 01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:57,320 I was slowly dying 1547 01:24:57,320 --> 01:25:00,120 no, I ain't lying 1548 01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,520 for selling dope 1549 01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:05,360 tell her where's the hope 1550 01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,680 live a life of crime? 1551 01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,040 as my grandfather 1552 01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:15,760 for my own daughter 124567

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