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This week on Vice:
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Indonesia's internal
struggle over Sharia.
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This is the
Sharia police division.
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We're about to go
on patrol with them,
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as they make sure people
are abiding by Islamic law.
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And then, the monumental effort
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to clean up the plastic
in our ocean.
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This is the very first time
that the Ocean Cleanup guys
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have had their product
actually in the water.
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What we're seeing here
is just one segment,
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and eventually, the thing will be about
a thousand times larger than this.
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We're finding plastic
in Antarctic species.
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So, this is really
a global issue.
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Go! Go! Go!
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We are not animals!
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Sync & corrections by honeybunny
www.addic7ed.com
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Sharia is a strict code of
Islamic law based on the Quran,
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which has been in
the news a lot lately
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because it's the underlying
philosophy of ISIS,
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who believe that all
countries in the world
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should practice this
type of governance.
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But adherence to Sharia has also been
gaining ground in other countries.
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Indonesia, the most populous
Muslim country in the world,
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usually known for its
moderate brand of Islam,
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is now experimenting with Sharia
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in the province of Aceh.
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Suroosh Alvi went
to Indonesia to investigate.
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So, it's Wednesday
night in Aceh.
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This is the Sharia police
division behind me,
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and we're about to go on patrol
with them as they go around town
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and make sure people
are abiding by Islamic law.
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If they see couples
that are just sitting together,
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they'll talk to them, make sure
that they are a married couple.
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So everybody is getting on their
motorcycles and running away.
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The buzzkill division.
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Sharia police...
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...killing good vibes.
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The strict
Islamic code of Sharia
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is most common in countries
such as Saudi Arabia and Iran,
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but now it's taking root
in parts of Indonesia,
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a historically secular country.
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Previously common
practices like socializing
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between unmarried men and women,
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drinking alcohol, or even
wearing Western clothing,
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are violations of the law.
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Unfortunately, this
interpretation of Sharia
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targets some communities
more than others.
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We've read a lot about
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the Sharia police going after
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gay couples,
and people having gay sex.
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How do you actually patrol?
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Prejudice against
Aceh's LGBTQ population,
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already widespread
in the region,
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has now effectively
become state-sanctioned.
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These two teens were arrested
for homosexual behavior
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and agreed to speak to us
about life under Sharia.
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What is life for you
like here in Aceh?
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The Indonesian Ulama Council
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released a fatwa against
the LGBT community
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proposing punishments
ranging from a hundred canings
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to the death penalty
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for individuals accused
of homosexual acts.
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While the death penalty
has only been proposed
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by Aceh's most
extreme hardliners,
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those caught
violating Sharia law
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face harsh and very
public repercussions.
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Why are you here?
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Why did they
put you in this cell?
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Are they gonna punish you
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by caning you,
in front of everyone?
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These taxi
drivers were jailed
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for nearly a month
for violating Sharia,
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awaiting the same fate that people
across Aceh are becoming accustomed to.
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But even the
executioners of Sharia law
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have mixed feelings about it.
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You're a moral enforcer.
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Do you see this job as an honor?
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The call for
enforcement of Sharia
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is actually relatively
new to Aceh,
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and was amplified in the wake of one
of the deadliest natural disasters
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in recorded history,
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which many here interpreted
as a religious reckoning.
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We're standing in front
of the grand mosque in Aceh,
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which was built
in the late 1800s.
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When the tsunami
happened in 2004,
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everything was destroyed
around the mosque for miles,
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and this is one of the only
structures that survived.
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And this event
was a turning point
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in terms of the evolution
of Sharia in Aceh.
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The tsunami killed
over 230,000 people
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but also forced the end
of a decades-long civil war
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between Aceh separatists
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and the Indonesian
central government.
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Aceh was given partial autonomy
as part of a peace agreement,
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allowing them to enforce Sharia
as the law of the land.
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Syahrizal Abbas was instrumental
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in upholding Sharia in Aceh
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and explained
its evolution to us.
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Abbas and fellow hardliners
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believe the tsunami
was the wrath of God,
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punishing the people
of Aceh for living in sin,
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and that the way
to fix their society
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was through punishment
for these moral crimes.
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So, if you're caught
having gay sex,
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you could get caned
up to a hundred times?
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Mm-hmm.
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That seems a little extreme, no?
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Yeah, uh...
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Really?
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Does it appear that
the behavior is being modified
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of the population by the
implementation of caning?
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As the citizens
of Aceh find themselves
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increasingly under this control,
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Sharia may be gaining traction
in the rest of Indonesia,
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as a recent poll found up
to 72 percent
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of Indonesian Muslims
support Sharia law.
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And with a recent
surge in attacks
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targeting minority
Buddhists and Christians,
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there's a growing fear
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that as Sharia gains strength
in the Indonesian capital,
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the country's long-standing
legacy of secularism is at risk.
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In the capital of Jakarta,
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we spoke to Islamic
preacher Syamsudin Uba
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about why he supports
the spread of Sharia.
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We just spent a few days in Aceh
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to look at the Sharia system
that they have there.
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What is your view on the Sharia system
that they have implemented in Aceh?
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What was the last thing you said?
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To clarify what I thought
he meant by Syria and Iraq,
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I asked him about some
cities that until now
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had been exclusively
controlled by ISIS.
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Are you referring
to the Sharia that is
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in Ramadi and Mosul in Iraq,
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and in Raqqa in Syria?
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Are those the cities that
you're talking about?
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May I see?
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Yikes.
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What does it say?
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I said "Islamic Caliphate"
and then...
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Good timing.
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And this isn't the first
time that he's pledged support
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for Al-Baghdadi,
the leader of ISIS.
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In March of 2014,
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the preacher led a rally
of hundreds of people
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encouraging them
to join the Islamic State.
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And he was arrested
and briefly detained
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for publicly promoting
ISIS in 2015.
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What you're preaching
is that there should be
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the establishment of an Islamic
caliphate in Indonesia
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in which the leader
will be Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi.
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Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi
is leader of an organization
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that perpetrated
attacks in Paris,
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California.
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Baghdadi's organization
is responsible
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for countless atrocities
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and violations of human rights,
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and death, and rape,
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and lots of bad... shit.
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So, I'm having trouble
reconciling your pitch.
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Don't you think
what you're preaching
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is creating
a psychological environment
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that makes it very easy
to take that next step
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and to pick up a gun,
and-- and fight?
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While Uba maintains
that his messaging is
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that Indonesians should not
engage in violence or radicalism,
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hundreds of Indonesians have left the
country to join ISIS in Syria...
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and ISIS attacks have recently
struck very close to home.
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And as the Indonesian government
attempts to stop further attacks,
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along with ISIS
recruitment attempts,
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it's clear that there's
a battle for hearts and minds
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raging in the world's most
populous Muslim country,
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with extremists like Uba
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opposing activists
like Alissa Wahid,
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the daughter of Indonesia's
former president,
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who is fighting for the secular
ideals Indonesia was founded on.
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Does the existence
of a Sharia state
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create an environment
of religious intolerance?
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The Sharia should live
in the personal
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and everyday life of a Muslim.
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It should not be formalized.
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Because the fundamental of Islam
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is belief that God
creates people
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from different types, from different
background to help each other.
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We're the fundamentalists,
not them.
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They're the extremists.
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One of Vice's first-ever
documentaries
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focused on the Great
Pacific Garbage Patch,
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an enormous mass of plastic
swirling in the Pacific Ocean
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that some have estimated to be
larger than the state of Texas.
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Now, what we found
was tons of discarded plastic
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breaking down into a mix
of debris and chemical sludge.
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We're nowhere near land.
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We're nowhere near
any other ships.
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We've changed the
composition of ocean water
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almost a thousand miles
from shore.
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It's always
been Vice's mission
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to keep following the issues even
after they fade from the news cycle.
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And today there are some major
new developments in this story.
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So we sent Isobel Yeung
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to see if there might finally
be some workable solutions
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for saving the world's oceans.
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We are just driving
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towards the very southern tip
of Hawaii's big island,
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which, not so long ago,
was an absolute paradise.
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But this one-time paradise has become
a magnet for the ocean's plastic.
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All you can see
as far as the horizon
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is the remains of human refuse.
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This could be from Asia, it could
be from the mainland, America,
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and a lot of this stuff comes from
the Great Pacific Garbage Patch.
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The Garbage Patch, also
known as the North Pacific Gyre,
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is where ocean currents converge
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to create a concentration
of plastics.
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A lot of the plastic
at Kamilo Beach
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has been circulating
in the ocean for so long
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it's been broken down into tiny
particles, or micro-plastics.
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Which are nearly
impossible to clean up.
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How frequently do you do
these beach clean-ups?
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You know, we've done
32 so far this year.
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We're gonna pick this stuff up and
come back down here next week,
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and it could potentially be
just as dirty, if not worse.
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This plastic doesn't
just ruin a day at the beach.
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It's estimated that
nearly 700 marine species
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have encountered
man-made debris.
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At Hawaii's Oceanic Institute
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Dr. David Hyrenbach
is studying how plastic
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is becoming a permanent
part of our ecosystem.
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So this bird was incidentally
killed-- Whoa, that is a beast!
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Then you see the hooks
coming out of the neck there. - Oh.
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This is the gizzard.
so the heart's out of the way.
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Let me just...
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I see some plastic!
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- Whoa. Look at that.
- Okay.
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A 2015 study predicted
that as many as 90 percent
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of all seabirds worldwide
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now consume plastic
as part of their diet.
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How far do you think most of
this plastic has traveled from?
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It could be coming
from anywhere.
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I mean, we're finding
plastic in Antarctic species.
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You know, places where
people don't really go.
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So this is really
a global issue.
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And it's not just
birds eating this plastic.
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Oceanographer
Dr. Anela Choy
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is studying the plastics impact
on the entire ocean food chain.
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This is a lancetfish,
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and what's great about these guys is
they sample the environment for us.
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So, we sample the stomachs from
different locations in the ocean
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um, take a look at what--
what they're feeding on.
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Whoa! Look what we have here.
Whoa! Wow.
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What the hell is that? That's
a giant piece of plastic.
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Oh, God.
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These pieces of plastic
are made out of petroleum
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and other chemical contaminants.
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When pieces of plastic
are in the water column,
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they sort of act
as little sponges.
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They actually accumulate toxins,
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and then they get
ingested by animals,
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and so, we're still learning about
the chemistry of what happens
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when fish like that eats it.
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How out of hand
is this situation getting?
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Animals at almost every single
trophic level of the food web
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in the open ocean
are ingesting plastics.
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Yeah, it's the biggest
habitat on the planet.
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Mm-hmm. - And if there's plastic
throughout that habitat,
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it's gonna have some
really serious impacts.
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Many of the species
humans eat prey on lancetfish.
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Meaning plastic is likely finding
its way up the food chain
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and into our dinners.
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Are you worried that any of that plastic
might find its way into the fish?
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Of course this happens.
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You know, I mean, how are we gonna stop it?
I don't know.
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It's coming from
all over the world.
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So, what happens when
you gut the fish on the boat?
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You find like a plastic bag, or like,
bottle caps, things like that.
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Wow. You are what you eat depending
on what the fish ingests,
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so it's probably not the best
for the fish, and for you.
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Plastic in our world's
oceans is reaching crisis levels.
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Since the Great Pacific Garbage
Patch was discovered in 1997,
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four additional patches have
been found across the globe,
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accumulating more
and more plastic.
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We spoke with Dominic Waughray
at the World Economic Forum,
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who is tracking the problem
on a global scale.
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Plastic is one of the most pervasive
human-made materials that we have.
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We have the problem
that we make a lot of plastic.
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We kind of use it once, or at the most
twice, and then we get rid of it,
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and ultimately, it can
only go into three places.
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It can be burnt,
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it can be landfilled,
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or it can be dumped, and dumping
often then means the sea.
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Don't forget with the mass
urbanization that we're going through
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a lot of this is
in coastal areas.
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Most big cities are by the sea.
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Eight million tons of that plastic
goes into the ocean every year.
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That's about an equivalent
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of one garbage truck
every minute.
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That one garbage truck will become
four garbage trucks by 2050 or so.
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If we carry on that rate,
there will be more plastic,
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by weight,
in the ocean than fish.
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So as a human, sort of, conundrum,
this, surely, can't be good.
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What is the wake-up call?
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With 165 million tons of
plastic already in the ocean,
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and more being
dumped in every day,
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it's hard to imagine how we would
even begin to clean this up.
303
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But there is someone who is
attempting to do just that.
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When talking about
environmental issues,
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I think a common response is,
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"Well, that's, pfft,
a long way off.
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That's for our children
to worry about."
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So, hello, here I am.
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Since Boyan was 16, he's
been on an environmental mission.
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Now, six years later,
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he's crowd-funded millions of
dollars to start his own company:
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The Ocean Cleanup.
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Along with a team of top
engineers and scientists,
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their goal is simple:
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to rid the world's
oceans of plastic.
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We caught up with Boyan
at the Ocean Cleanup offices
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and plastic laboratory.
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So, this is the Great
Pacific Garbage Patch.
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This is the concentration
of plastic,
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- these little specks here?
- Right.
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So, there are-- there are
five of them in the world. - Mm-hmm.
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And because the North Pacific is most
polluted, we'll start with that.
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We're trying all these
different variables,
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like how large should it be,
what angle should it be,
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to get to a system that collects most
plastic for as little cost as possible.
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Boyan and his team spent years
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mapping the Great Pacific
Garbage Patch to understand
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how to go about cleaning it up.
329
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So talk me through how
the Ocean Cleanup works.
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So really the problem is that
although there is a lot of plastic,
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it's spread out over
a very large area,
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so you first need to concentrate
it before you get it out.
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So, what we propose is to deploy
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sort of an artificial coastline,
where there is no coastline,
335
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So we have this very long
array of floating barriers
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that is anchored to the sea bed.
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The ocean current does
the hard work for us,
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brings the plastic towards it,
339
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and concentrates in the center.
340
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And once it's in the center, it's so
dense you can hardly see the water,
341
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and that's the spot where
we can then easily take it out,
342
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and store it before shipping
it to land for recycling.
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Over 95 percent of the mass
is still in those big objects,
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which is so urgent to clean up,
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because all that big stuff
will become micro-plastics
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over the next few decades,
which is the problem.
347
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Why has no one else attempted to clean
up on the scale that you're proposing?
348
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People assume that a complex problem
requires a complex solution,
349
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but I think the simpler a
solution can be, the better.
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When I started this, I didn't
know whether it would work,
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but I thought, considering
the scale of the problem,
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that it was just
important to at least try.
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After months spent
perfecting the design,
354
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Boyan's invention is ready
for the ultimate test.
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To find out whether
it can survive in the ocean.
356
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Welcome to the Ocean Cleanup's
prototype unveiling.
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Boyan and his team have got their first
prototype in the sea going out today.
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So, we're gonna go and see the
progress in getting it out.
359
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And there's going to be tests
for all weather sorts,
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which is the perfect place
to do it here on the North Sea.
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It gets pretty stormy out here.
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The conditions in the
North Sea are pretty severe.
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Now, with the first minor
storm, we'll get forces higher
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than during a hundred-year
storm in the Pacific Ocean.
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It's pretty safe to say that if it
survives here, it will survive anywhere.
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But to scale the array to be
scooping up the Pacific Garbage Patch,
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Boyan has a way to go.
368
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What we're seeing here
is just one segment,
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and eventually, the thing will be about
a thousand times larger than this.
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- Wow.
- And then somewhere in the center
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of the giant
V-shaped array,
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we would have these conveyor belts
and pumps to extract the plastic.
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I mean, 100 kilometers, it's very
large for a manmade structure,
374
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but it's peanuts compared to
the size of the Pacific Ocean.
375
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Assuming everything
does go to plan,
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what's the next step?
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We should be ready to deploy the
first full operational system
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uh, by late 2017.
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So that will be the first time
we're actually removing plastic
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from the ocean at a large scale.
381
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And then, if that goes well,
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we should be ready to start the
largest cleanup in history by 2020.
383
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So, this is just the beginning,
it's not the end.
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While Boyan
works towards hitting
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the next milestone
of his experiment,
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he's simultaneously
planning what to do
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with the degraded plastic
he's able to collect
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and how to make
it valuable again.
389
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This is one of the
companies we're working with
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to actually produce the recycling
product, because eventually,
391
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this is sort of how we want to
finance the whole Ocean Cleanup.
392
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This is a machine, where we
put in the flakes... Mm-hmm.
393
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...so the ground-up
ocean plastic objects.
394
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So to get the-- the highest
quality of, uh, of plastic
395
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we really want to sort it
first before recycling it.
396
00:25:32,712 --> 00:25:37,215
Then it should exit here as... Ooh!
It's coming out like spaghetti.
397
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It's like a pasta machine.
398
00:25:38,919 --> 00:25:40,518
It is exactly as
a pasta machine.
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The process involves
chopping up the plastic
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into tiny beads,
known as nurdles.
401
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These are then sold and melted down into
the objects we use in everyday life.
402
00:25:52,332 --> 00:25:54,498
So then it's just
shredding it up in nuggets?
403
00:25:54,534 --> 00:25:58,435
Yeah, so this is sort of the
whole currency of the plastic industry.
404
00:25:58,471 --> 00:26:01,939
So, car companies buy these
nurdles to make their products,
405
00:26:01,973 --> 00:26:04,442
and furniture companies
use them as well.
406
00:26:04,477 --> 00:26:07,612
So, it's sort of giving
ocean plastic a second life.
407
00:26:07,646 --> 00:26:09,579
This is pretty cool to know that
408
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this plastic has been around
for the last few decades,
409
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and could have come
from anywhere in the world.
410
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Oh, yeah, and this
could have well been
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some of the first plastic that was ever
produced at scale in the '50s and the '60s.
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While Boyan is recycling ocean
plastics into more permanent uses,
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the vast majority of the world's
plastics are never recycled at all.
414
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In fact, even the most commonly used
are only recycled 14% of the time.
415
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But at IBM,
Dr. Jeannette Garcia
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is developing a process
called "chemical recycling"
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that could change how we think
about plastics altogether.
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How do you see plastic? Is it a
big problem or a great invention?
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I think of plastic as being
a great invention,
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because it permeates
our entire life.
421
00:26:51,689 --> 00:26:55,057
Plastic is ubiquitous,
in everything from shoes,
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00:26:55,093 --> 00:26:58,693
pills, to healthcare,
to disposable syringes,
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00:26:58,729 --> 00:27:01,863
and so to try to do
away with it completely,
424
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is probably not a viable option.
425
00:27:04,734 --> 00:27:07,568
Tell us about chemical recycling and
why you think that's the answer.
426
00:27:07,605 --> 00:27:10,105
The main difference is that
in mechanical recycling,
427
00:27:10,140 --> 00:27:13,174
what you're doing is
you're taking the material
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00:27:13,210 --> 00:27:16,044
and you have to shred it down,
then melt it down, remold it,
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00:27:16,078 --> 00:27:19,847
and it can only happen a certain number
of times before it loses the properties.
430
00:27:19,883 --> 00:27:22,416
Chemical recycling is different,
because what you actually do
431
00:27:22,451 --> 00:27:25,119
is you take the material,
and you chemically react it
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so it goes back down
to its most fundamental unit.
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00:27:28,458 --> 00:27:31,125
That fundamental unit
can then be reacted again
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back into the same thing
or into something different,
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00:27:33,630 --> 00:27:37,498
and we can reach a 100 percent,
like, full cycle process.
436
00:27:37,534 --> 00:27:39,534
If we can scale
this process up,
437
00:27:39,568 --> 00:27:43,037
we could take the hundreds of millions
of tons of discarded plastics
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recycle them, and move towards
a zero waste economy.
439
00:27:47,309 --> 00:27:50,109
People are gonna start realizing
that we can save money,
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00:27:50,145 --> 00:27:52,578
and a lot of money
by recycling materials,
441
00:27:52,614 --> 00:27:55,348
and so that it makes
sense from all standpoints.
442
00:27:55,384 --> 00:27:59,552
We have to start thinking
of our landfills as gold mines.
443
00:28:01,190 --> 00:28:04,124
With the right approach,
and the will to make it happen,
444
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,393
all this trash would
become valuable again,
445
00:28:06,428 --> 00:28:09,363
and solving this mammoth
environmental task
446
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could create an
economic miracle.
447
00:28:11,932 --> 00:28:15,067
Economically, if we had
to pay for all that plastic,
448
00:28:15,103 --> 00:28:16,803
which we could do
something better with,
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between $80 and
$120 billion a year
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that you can make valuable with straight
away, effectively we're dumping,
451
00:28:23,744 --> 00:28:26,511
but like anything in life,
if there's a problem,
452
00:28:26,547 --> 00:28:28,146
then there's gonna
be opportunity.
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00:28:28,182 --> 00:28:30,115
We know through
history in terms of
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disruptions in industries
or new products
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that it's kind of innovators and disruptors
who kind of take us to the next level.
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The fact that we
now are creating a path
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in which there is a chance that
we can have clean oceans again,
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that could potentially inspire
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a lot more people to get
involved with this problem.
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Human history is
a long list of things
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that couldn't be done
and then were done.
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Really, the challenge
in this century
463
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is to convert a lifestyle
created in a previous century
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into one that will still
be around in the next century.
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