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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,769 --> 00:00:09,268 This week on Vice: 2 00:00:09,303 --> 00:00:12,503 Indonesia's internal struggle over Sharia. 3 00:00:21,114 --> 00:00:23,681 This is the Sharia police division. 4 00:00:23,718 --> 00:00:24,850 We're about to go on patrol with them, 5 00:00:24,885 --> 00:00:28,085 as they make sure people are abiding by Islamic law. 6 00:00:28,121 --> 00:00:30,155 And then, the monumental effort 7 00:00:30,190 --> 00:00:32,457 to clean up the plastic in our ocean. 8 00:00:32,493 --> 00:00:35,393 This is the very first time that the Ocean Cleanup guys 9 00:00:35,427 --> 00:00:37,362 have had their product actually in the water. 10 00:00:37,396 --> 00:00:39,296 What we're seeing here is just one segment, 11 00:00:39,332 --> 00:00:42,500 and eventually, the thing will be about a thousand times larger than this. 12 00:00:42,534 --> 00:00:45,936 We're finding plastic in Antarctic species. 13 00:00:45,972 --> 00:00:47,972 So, this is really a global issue. 14 00:00:54,847 --> 00:00:56,179 Go! 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Go! 15 00:00:59,085 --> 00:01:00,284 We are not animals! 16 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:10,751 Sync & corrections by honeybunny www.addic7ed.com 17 00:01:11,664 --> 00:01:15,498 Sharia is a strict code of Islamic law based on the Quran, 18 00:01:15,534 --> 00:01:17,001 which has been in the news a lot lately 19 00:01:17,036 --> 00:01:20,236 because it's the underlying philosophy of ISIS, 20 00:01:20,272 --> 00:01:22,138 who believe that all countries in the world 21 00:01:22,174 --> 00:01:24,441 should practice this type of governance. 22 00:01:24,475 --> 00:01:28,344 But adherence to Sharia has also been gaining ground in other countries. 23 00:01:28,379 --> 00:01:31,581 Indonesia, the most populous Muslim country in the world, 24 00:01:31,617 --> 00:01:33,983 usually known for its moderate brand of Islam, 25 00:01:34,019 --> 00:01:36,353 is now experimenting with Sharia 26 00:01:36,388 --> 00:01:38,188 in the province of Aceh. 27 00:01:38,222 --> 00:01:41,156 Suroosh Alvi went to Indonesia to investigate. 28 00:01:56,073 --> 00:01:57,972 So, it's Wednesday night in Aceh. 29 00:01:58,008 --> 00:02:01,376 This is the Sharia police division behind me, 30 00:02:01,412 --> 00:02:04,713 and we're about to go on patrol with them as they go around town 31 00:02:04,748 --> 00:02:07,549 and make sure people are abiding by Islamic law. 32 00:02:11,055 --> 00:02:13,455 If they see couples that are just sitting together, 33 00:02:13,490 --> 00:02:17,058 they'll talk to them, make sure that they are a married couple. 34 00:02:17,093 --> 00:02:19,895 So everybody is getting on their motorcycles and running away. 35 00:02:22,265 --> 00:02:23,899 The buzzkill division. 36 00:02:23,933 --> 00:02:26,100 Sharia police... 37 00:02:26,135 --> 00:02:28,236 ...killing good vibes. 38 00:02:28,271 --> 00:02:30,239 The strict Islamic code of Sharia 39 00:02:30,274 --> 00:02:34,074 is most common in countries such as Saudi Arabia and Iran, 40 00:02:34,110 --> 00:02:36,877 but now it's taking root in parts of Indonesia, 41 00:02:36,913 --> 00:02:39,980 a historically secular country. 42 00:02:40,015 --> 00:02:42,584 Previously common practices like socializing 43 00:02:42,618 --> 00:02:44,618 between unmarried men and women, 44 00:02:44,653 --> 00:02:48,055 drinking alcohol, or even wearing Western clothing, 45 00:02:48,091 --> 00:02:50,456 are violations of the law. 46 00:02:50,492 --> 00:02:53,627 Unfortunately, this interpretation of Sharia 47 00:02:53,662 --> 00:02:56,296 targets some communities more than others. 48 00:02:56,331 --> 00:02:58,299 We've read a lot about 49 00:02:58,334 --> 00:03:00,300 the Sharia police going after 50 00:03:00,336 --> 00:03:02,735 gay couples, and people having gay sex. 51 00:03:02,771 --> 00:03:05,372 How do you actually patrol? 52 00:03:20,322 --> 00:03:23,622 Prejudice against Aceh's LGBTQ population, 53 00:03:23,658 --> 00:03:25,490 already widespread in the region, 54 00:03:25,526 --> 00:03:27,560 has now effectively become state-sanctioned. 55 00:03:27,594 --> 00:03:31,631 These two teens were arrested for homosexual behavior 56 00:03:31,665 --> 00:03:34,433 and agreed to speak to us about life under Sharia. 57 00:03:34,468 --> 00:03:37,937 What is life for you like here in Aceh? 58 00:03:48,449 --> 00:03:50,615 The Indonesian Ulama Council 59 00:03:50,651 --> 00:03:54,019 released a fatwa against the LGBT community 60 00:03:54,055 --> 00:03:58,424 proposing punishments ranging from a hundred canings 61 00:03:58,459 --> 00:04:00,491 to the death penalty 62 00:04:00,526 --> 00:04:03,962 for individuals accused of homosexual acts. 63 00:04:15,943 --> 00:04:18,343 While the death penalty has only been proposed 64 00:04:18,377 --> 00:04:19,978 by Aceh's most extreme hardliners, 65 00:04:20,012 --> 00:04:22,880 those caught violating Sharia law 66 00:04:22,915 --> 00:04:25,783 face harsh and very public repercussions. 67 00:04:25,819 --> 00:04:27,918 Why are you here? 68 00:04:27,954 --> 00:04:29,752 Why did they put you in this cell? 69 00:04:34,326 --> 00:04:36,726 Are they gonna punish you 70 00:04:36,762 --> 00:04:39,062 by caning you, in front of everyone? 71 00:04:44,737 --> 00:04:46,302 These taxi drivers were jailed 72 00:04:46,338 --> 00:04:48,338 for nearly a month for violating Sharia, 73 00:04:48,374 --> 00:04:52,610 awaiting the same fate that people across Aceh are becoming accustomed to. 74 00:05:28,612 --> 00:05:30,913 But even the executioners of Sharia law 75 00:05:30,949 --> 00:05:32,581 have mixed feelings about it. 76 00:05:34,117 --> 00:05:35,918 You're a moral enforcer. 77 00:05:35,952 --> 00:05:39,021 Do you see this job as an honor? 78 00:05:50,901 --> 00:05:52,834 The call for enforcement of Sharia 79 00:05:52,870 --> 00:05:54,870 is actually relatively new to Aceh, 80 00:05:54,904 --> 00:05:58,906 and was amplified in the wake of one of the deadliest natural disasters 81 00:05:58,942 --> 00:06:00,742 in recorded history, 82 00:06:00,778 --> 00:06:03,545 which many here interpreted as a religious reckoning. 83 00:06:03,581 --> 00:06:07,115 We're standing in front of the grand mosque in Aceh, 84 00:06:07,149 --> 00:06:09,783 which was built in the late 1800s. 85 00:06:09,819 --> 00:06:13,620 When the tsunami happened in 2004, 86 00:06:13,656 --> 00:06:18,125 everything was destroyed around the mosque for miles, 87 00:06:18,161 --> 00:06:21,562 and this is one of the only structures that survived. 88 00:06:21,598 --> 00:06:24,865 And this event was a turning point 89 00:06:24,901 --> 00:06:27,901 in terms of the evolution of Sharia in Aceh. 90 00:06:27,937 --> 00:06:31,838 The tsunami killed over 230,000 people 91 00:06:31,874 --> 00:06:34,841 but also forced the end of a decades-long civil war 92 00:06:34,877 --> 00:06:36,343 between Aceh separatists 93 00:06:36,377 --> 00:06:38,677 and the Indonesian central government. 94 00:06:38,713 --> 00:06:42,516 Aceh was given partial autonomy as part of a peace agreement, 95 00:06:42,550 --> 00:06:46,487 allowing them to enforce Sharia as the law of the land. 96 00:06:46,521 --> 00:06:49,088 Syahrizal Abbas was instrumental 97 00:06:49,125 --> 00:06:51,358 in upholding Sharia in Aceh 98 00:06:51,393 --> 00:06:53,759 and explained its evolution to us. 99 00:07:23,391 --> 00:07:24,923 Abbas and fellow hardliners 100 00:07:24,959 --> 00:07:26,792 believe the tsunami was the wrath of God, 101 00:07:26,826 --> 00:07:31,129 punishing the people of Aceh for living in sin, 102 00:07:31,165 --> 00:07:32,898 and that the way to fix their society 103 00:07:32,932 --> 00:07:35,533 was through punishment for these moral crimes. 104 00:07:35,569 --> 00:07:38,502 So, if you're caught having gay sex, 105 00:07:38,538 --> 00:07:41,572 you could get caned up to a hundred times? 106 00:07:41,608 --> 00:07:42,675 Mm-hmm. 107 00:07:42,709 --> 00:07:44,308 That seems a little extreme, no? 108 00:07:45,312 --> 00:07:47,278 Yeah, uh... 109 00:08:06,665 --> 00:08:08,331 Really? 110 00:08:12,771 --> 00:08:16,439 Does it appear that the behavior is being modified 111 00:08:16,475 --> 00:08:18,875 of the population by the implementation of caning? 112 00:08:25,483 --> 00:08:27,783 As the citizens of Aceh find themselves 113 00:08:27,819 --> 00:08:29,952 increasingly under this control, 114 00:08:29,987 --> 00:08:33,090 Sharia may be gaining traction in the rest of Indonesia, 115 00:08:33,125 --> 00:08:36,058 as a recent poll found up to 72 percent 116 00:08:36,095 --> 00:08:39,428 of Indonesian Muslims support Sharia law. 117 00:08:39,463 --> 00:08:41,463 And with a recent surge in attacks 118 00:08:41,499 --> 00:08:43,633 targeting minority Buddhists and Christians, 119 00:08:43,668 --> 00:08:45,467 there's a growing fear 120 00:08:45,503 --> 00:08:48,504 that as Sharia gains strength in the Indonesian capital, 121 00:08:48,539 --> 00:08:52,508 the country's long-standing legacy of secularism is at risk. 122 00:08:52,543 --> 00:08:54,409 In the capital of Jakarta, 123 00:08:54,446 --> 00:08:57,614 we spoke to Islamic preacher Syamsudin Uba 124 00:08:57,649 --> 00:09:00,283 about why he supports the spread of Sharia. 125 00:09:00,317 --> 00:09:03,152 We just spent a few days in Aceh 126 00:09:03,187 --> 00:09:06,556 to look at the Sharia system that they have there. 127 00:09:06,591 --> 00:09:12,594 What is your view on the Sharia system that they have implemented in Aceh? 128 00:09:39,088 --> 00:09:41,489 What was the last thing you said? 129 00:09:51,835 --> 00:09:54,701 To clarify what I thought he meant by Syria and Iraq, 130 00:09:54,736 --> 00:09:58,071 I asked him about some cities that until now 131 00:09:58,106 --> 00:10:01,140 had been exclusively controlled by ISIS. 132 00:10:01,177 --> 00:10:03,677 Are you referring to the Sharia that is 133 00:10:03,712 --> 00:10:05,578 in Ramadi and Mosul in Iraq, 134 00:10:05,615 --> 00:10:07,648 and in Raqqa in Syria? 135 00:10:07,683 --> 00:10:09,850 Are those the cities that you're talking about? 136 00:10:25,533 --> 00:10:26,799 May I see? 137 00:10:26,836 --> 00:10:28,034 Yikes. 138 00:10:29,104 --> 00:10:30,135 What does it say? 139 00:10:35,844 --> 00:10:38,144 I said "Islamic Caliphate" and then... 140 00:10:38,178 --> 00:10:40,679 Good timing. 141 00:10:40,716 --> 00:10:42,914 And this isn't the first time that he's pledged support 142 00:10:42,951 --> 00:10:45,351 for Al-Baghdadi, the leader of ISIS. 143 00:10:45,386 --> 00:10:47,552 In March of 2014, 144 00:10:47,587 --> 00:10:49,754 the preacher led a rally of hundreds of people 145 00:10:49,789 --> 00:10:52,290 encouraging them to join the Islamic State. 146 00:10:59,033 --> 00:11:01,333 And he was arrested and briefly detained 147 00:11:01,369 --> 00:11:04,403 for publicly promoting ISIS in 2015. 148 00:11:04,437 --> 00:11:07,172 What you're preaching is that there should be 149 00:11:07,206 --> 00:11:12,510 the establishment of an Islamic caliphate in Indonesia 150 00:11:12,546 --> 00:11:16,248 in which the leader will be Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi. 151 00:12:05,831 --> 00:12:08,965 Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi is leader of an organization 152 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,000 that perpetrated attacks in Paris, 153 00:12:12,037 --> 00:12:13,503 California. 154 00:12:13,538 --> 00:12:17,506 Baghdadi's organization is responsible 155 00:12:17,543 --> 00:12:20,076 for countless atrocities 156 00:12:20,110 --> 00:12:22,546 and violations of human rights, 157 00:12:22,581 --> 00:12:24,179 and death, and rape, 158 00:12:24,215 --> 00:12:26,282 and lots of bad... shit. 159 00:12:26,317 --> 00:12:29,384 So, I'm having trouble reconciling your pitch. 160 00:13:04,620 --> 00:13:06,989 Don't you think what you're preaching 161 00:13:07,024 --> 00:13:09,256 is creating a psychological environment 162 00:13:09,293 --> 00:13:13,861 that makes it very easy to take that next step 163 00:13:13,897 --> 00:13:17,764 and to pick up a gun, and-- and fight? 164 00:13:41,356 --> 00:13:43,923 While Uba maintains that his messaging is 165 00:13:43,959 --> 00:13:47,427 that Indonesians should not engage in violence or radicalism, 166 00:13:47,462 --> 00:13:51,163 hundreds of Indonesians have left the country to join ISIS in Syria... 167 00:13:53,601 --> 00:13:57,169 and ISIS attacks have recently struck very close to home. 168 00:13:58,673 --> 00:14:02,009 And as the Indonesian government attempts to stop further attacks, 169 00:14:02,043 --> 00:14:03,777 along with ISIS recruitment attempts, 170 00:14:03,812 --> 00:14:06,913 it's clear that there's a battle for hearts and minds 171 00:14:06,947 --> 00:14:09,849 raging in the world's most populous Muslim country, 172 00:14:09,884 --> 00:14:11,518 with extremists like Uba 173 00:14:11,552 --> 00:14:14,421 opposing activists like Alissa Wahid, 174 00:14:14,456 --> 00:14:16,389 the daughter of Indonesia's former president, 175 00:14:16,424 --> 00:14:20,759 who is fighting for the secular ideals Indonesia was founded on. 176 00:14:21,596 --> 00:14:25,330 Does the existence of a Sharia state 177 00:14:25,365 --> 00:14:27,432 create an environment of religious intolerance? 178 00:14:27,467 --> 00:14:31,269 The Sharia should live in the personal 179 00:14:31,304 --> 00:14:34,072 and everyday life of a Muslim. 180 00:14:34,107 --> 00:14:36,642 It should not be formalized. 181 00:14:36,677 --> 00:14:39,711 Because the fundamental of Islam 182 00:14:39,745 --> 00:14:43,347 is belief that God creates people 183 00:14:43,384 --> 00:14:47,619 from different types, from different background to help each other. 184 00:14:47,653 --> 00:14:50,389 We're the fundamentalists, not them. 185 00:14:50,423 --> 00:14:51,623 They're the extremists. 186 00:14:57,496 --> 00:14:59,563 One of Vice's first-ever documentaries 187 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,966 focused on the Great Pacific Garbage Patch, 188 00:15:02,001 --> 00:15:05,703 an enormous mass of plastic swirling in the Pacific Ocean 189 00:15:05,739 --> 00:15:09,941 that some have estimated to be larger than the state of Texas. 190 00:15:09,976 --> 00:15:12,576 Now, what we found was tons of discarded plastic 191 00:15:12,611 --> 00:15:15,879 breaking down into a mix of debris and chemical sludge. 192 00:15:15,914 --> 00:15:17,215 We're nowhere near land. 193 00:15:17,250 --> 00:15:19,015 We're nowhere near any other ships. 194 00:15:19,051 --> 00:15:21,985 We've changed the composition of ocean water 195 00:15:22,020 --> 00:15:24,087 almost a thousand miles from shore. 196 00:15:24,124 --> 00:15:25,889 It's always been Vice's mission 197 00:15:25,924 --> 00:15:29,525 to keep following the issues even after they fade from the news cycle. 198 00:15:29,561 --> 00:15:33,797 And today there are some major new developments in this story. 199 00:15:33,832 --> 00:15:35,197 So we sent Isobel Yeung 200 00:15:35,234 --> 00:15:37,835 to see if there might finally be some workable solutions 201 00:15:37,870 --> 00:15:40,169 for saving the world's oceans. 202 00:15:54,852 --> 00:15:56,286 We are just driving 203 00:15:56,321 --> 00:16:00,722 towards the very southern tip of Hawaii's big island, 204 00:16:00,759 --> 00:16:04,693 which, not so long ago, was an absolute paradise. 205 00:16:07,431 --> 00:16:12,201 But this one-time paradise has become a magnet for the ocean's plastic. 206 00:16:20,744 --> 00:16:23,178 All you can see as far as the horizon 207 00:16:23,213 --> 00:16:25,614 is the remains of human refuse. 208 00:16:25,649 --> 00:16:29,652 This could be from Asia, it could be from the mainland, America, 209 00:16:29,687 --> 00:16:34,322 and a lot of this stuff comes from the Great Pacific Garbage Patch. 210 00:16:34,356 --> 00:16:37,524 The Garbage Patch, also known as the North Pacific Gyre, 211 00:16:37,561 --> 00:16:39,161 is where ocean currents converge 212 00:16:39,196 --> 00:16:41,663 to create a concentration of plastics. 213 00:16:41,698 --> 00:16:43,230 A lot of the plastic at Kamilo Beach 214 00:16:43,265 --> 00:16:45,866 has been circulating in the ocean for so long 215 00:16:45,903 --> 00:16:50,037 it's been broken down into tiny particles, or micro-plastics. 216 00:16:50,072 --> 00:16:52,005 Which are nearly impossible to clean up. 217 00:16:55,711 --> 00:16:57,678 How frequently do you do these beach clean-ups? 218 00:16:57,713 --> 00:17:00,047 You know, we've done 32 so far this year. 219 00:17:00,082 --> 00:17:02,883 We're gonna pick this stuff up and come back down here next week, 220 00:17:02,918 --> 00:17:05,686 and it could potentially be just as dirty, if not worse. 221 00:17:07,222 --> 00:17:09,990 This plastic doesn't just ruin a day at the beach. 222 00:17:11,326 --> 00:17:14,060 It's estimated that nearly 700 marine species 223 00:17:14,096 --> 00:17:16,529 have encountered man-made debris. 224 00:17:19,667 --> 00:17:21,801 At Hawaii's Oceanic Institute 225 00:17:21,837 --> 00:17:24,371 Dr. David Hyrenbach is studying how plastic 226 00:17:24,405 --> 00:17:26,972 is becoming a permanent part of our ecosystem. 227 00:17:27,008 --> 00:17:30,943 So this bird was incidentally killed-- Whoa, that is a beast! 228 00:17:30,979 --> 00:17:33,447 Then you see the hooks coming out of the neck there. - Oh. 229 00:17:33,481 --> 00:17:37,182 This is the gizzard. so the heart's out of the way. 230 00:17:37,219 --> 00:17:38,684 Let me just... 231 00:17:38,721 --> 00:17:40,586 I see some plastic! 232 00:17:40,622 --> 00:17:44,022 - Whoa. Look at that. - Okay. 233 00:17:44,058 --> 00:17:47,425 A 2015 study predicted that as many as 90 percent 234 00:17:47,461 --> 00:17:49,095 of all seabirds worldwide 235 00:17:49,131 --> 00:17:52,231 now consume plastic as part of their diet. 236 00:17:52,267 --> 00:17:54,733 How far do you think most of this plastic has traveled from? 237 00:17:54,769 --> 00:17:55,800 It could be coming from anywhere. 238 00:17:55,836 --> 00:17:59,271 I mean, we're finding plastic in Antarctic species. 239 00:17:59,307 --> 00:18:01,406 You know, places where people don't really go. 240 00:18:01,442 --> 00:18:04,277 So this is really a global issue. 241 00:18:04,311 --> 00:18:06,679 And it's not just birds eating this plastic. 242 00:18:07,548 --> 00:18:09,281 Oceanographer Dr. Anela Choy 243 00:18:09,317 --> 00:18:12,951 is studying the plastics impact on the entire ocean food chain. 244 00:18:12,987 --> 00:18:14,419 This is a lancetfish, 245 00:18:14,453 --> 00:18:17,955 and what's great about these guys is they sample the environment for us. 246 00:18:17,991 --> 00:18:21,625 So, we sample the stomachs from different locations in the ocean 247 00:18:21,662 --> 00:18:24,863 um, take a look at what-- what they're feeding on. 248 00:18:24,898 --> 00:18:27,965 Whoa! Look what we have here. Whoa! Wow. 249 00:18:28,001 --> 00:18:31,568 What the hell is that? That's a giant piece of plastic. 250 00:18:31,605 --> 00:18:32,804 Oh, God. 251 00:18:32,838 --> 00:18:35,873 These pieces of plastic are made out of petroleum 252 00:18:35,909 --> 00:18:37,141 and other chemical contaminants. 253 00:18:37,176 --> 00:18:39,576 When pieces of plastic are in the water column, 254 00:18:39,613 --> 00:18:41,913 they sort of act as little sponges. 255 00:18:41,948 --> 00:18:44,080 They actually accumulate toxins, 256 00:18:44,116 --> 00:18:47,084 and then they get ingested by animals, 257 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,386 and so, we're still learning about the chemistry of what happens 258 00:18:50,423 --> 00:18:51,955 when fish like that eats it. 259 00:18:51,990 --> 00:18:54,858 How out of hand is this situation getting? 260 00:18:54,894 --> 00:18:58,261 Animals at almost every single trophic level of the food web 261 00:18:58,298 --> 00:19:00,330 in the open ocean are ingesting plastics. 262 00:19:00,365 --> 00:19:02,732 Yeah, it's the biggest habitat on the planet. 263 00:19:02,768 --> 00:19:06,102 Mm-hmm. - And if there's plastic throughout that habitat, 264 00:19:06,137 --> 00:19:08,838 it's gonna have some really serious impacts. 265 00:19:08,874 --> 00:19:12,875 Many of the species humans eat prey on lancetfish. 266 00:19:12,911 --> 00:19:15,912 Meaning plastic is likely finding its way up the food chain 267 00:19:15,948 --> 00:19:19,249 and into our dinners. 268 00:19:19,284 --> 00:19:22,719 Are you worried that any of that plastic might find its way into the fish? 269 00:19:22,753 --> 00:19:23,920 Of course this happens. 270 00:19:23,955 --> 00:19:26,195 You know, I mean, how are we gonna stop it? I don't know. 271 00:19:26,224 --> 00:19:27,757 It's coming from all over the world. 272 00:19:27,791 --> 00:19:30,492 So, what happens when you gut the fish on the boat? 273 00:19:30,528 --> 00:19:33,829 You find like a plastic bag, or like, bottle caps, things like that. 274 00:19:33,865 --> 00:19:37,165 Wow. You are what you eat depending on what the fish ingests, 275 00:19:37,201 --> 00:19:40,802 so it's probably not the best for the fish, and for you. 276 00:19:40,838 --> 00:19:45,173 Plastic in our world's oceans is reaching crisis levels. 277 00:19:45,209 --> 00:19:49,077 Since the Great Pacific Garbage Patch was discovered in 1997, 278 00:19:49,113 --> 00:19:52,480 four additional patches have been found across the globe, 279 00:19:52,516 --> 00:19:54,849 accumulating more and more plastic. 280 00:19:54,885 --> 00:19:57,952 We spoke with Dominic Waughray at the World Economic Forum, 281 00:19:57,989 --> 00:20:00,821 who is tracking the problem on a global scale. 282 00:20:00,857 --> 00:20:05,727 Plastic is one of the most pervasive human-made materials that we have. 283 00:20:05,762 --> 00:20:07,628 We have the problem that we make a lot of plastic. 284 00:20:07,663 --> 00:20:11,665 We kind of use it once, or at the most twice, and then we get rid of it, 285 00:20:11,701 --> 00:20:14,335 and ultimately, it can only go into three places. 286 00:20:14,371 --> 00:20:15,604 It can be burnt, 287 00:20:15,638 --> 00:20:17,171 it can be landfilled, 288 00:20:17,207 --> 00:20:21,410 or it can be dumped, and dumping often then means the sea. 289 00:20:21,444 --> 00:20:23,811 Don't forget with the mass urbanization that we're going through 290 00:20:23,846 --> 00:20:25,212 a lot of this is in coastal areas. 291 00:20:25,248 --> 00:20:28,182 Most big cities are by the sea. 292 00:20:28,218 --> 00:20:31,786 Eight million tons of that plastic goes into the ocean every year. 293 00:20:31,820 --> 00:20:33,121 That's about an equivalent 294 00:20:33,155 --> 00:20:35,155 of one garbage truck every minute. 295 00:20:35,191 --> 00:20:40,461 That one garbage truck will become four garbage trucks by 2050 or so. 296 00:20:40,496 --> 00:20:43,230 If we carry on that rate, there will be more plastic, 297 00:20:43,265 --> 00:20:45,999 by weight, in the ocean than fish. 298 00:20:46,035 --> 00:20:50,770 So as a human, sort of, conundrum, this, surely, can't be good. 299 00:20:50,807 --> 00:20:52,005 What is the wake-up call? 300 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:56,443 With 165 million tons of plastic already in the ocean, 301 00:20:56,479 --> 00:20:57,944 and more being dumped in every day, 302 00:20:57,980 --> 00:21:01,949 it's hard to imagine how we would even begin to clean this up. 303 00:21:01,983 --> 00:21:05,986 But there is someone who is attempting to do just that. 304 00:21:06,020 --> 00:21:08,454 When talking about environmental issues, 305 00:21:08,490 --> 00:21:10,156 I think a common response is, 306 00:21:10,192 --> 00:21:11,991 "Well, that's, pfft, a long way off. 307 00:21:12,027 --> 00:21:14,160 That's for our children to worry about." 308 00:21:14,194 --> 00:21:16,194 So, hello, here I am. 309 00:21:16,230 --> 00:21:20,532 Since Boyan was 16, he's been on an environmental mission. 310 00:21:20,568 --> 00:21:22,034 Now, six years later, 311 00:21:22,069 --> 00:21:25,104 he's crowd-funded millions of dollars to start his own company: 312 00:21:25,138 --> 00:21:26,839 The Ocean Cleanup. 313 00:21:26,875 --> 00:21:29,576 Along with a team of top engineers and scientists, 314 00:21:29,611 --> 00:21:31,277 their goal is simple: 315 00:21:31,311 --> 00:21:33,644 to rid the world's oceans of plastic. 316 00:21:33,681 --> 00:21:36,414 We caught up with Boyan at the Ocean Cleanup offices 317 00:21:36,451 --> 00:21:37,615 and plastic laboratory. 318 00:21:37,651 --> 00:21:39,884 So, this is the Great Pacific Garbage Patch. 319 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,586 This is the concentration of plastic, 320 00:21:41,622 --> 00:21:43,154 - these little specks here? - Right. 321 00:21:43,191 --> 00:21:45,156 So, there are-- there are five of them in the world. - Mm-hmm. 322 00:21:45,192 --> 00:21:47,792 And because the North Pacific is most polluted, we'll start with that. 323 00:21:47,827 --> 00:21:50,394 We're trying all these different variables, 324 00:21:50,430 --> 00:21:52,964 like how large should it be, what angle should it be, 325 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,835 to get to a system that collects most plastic for as little cost as possible. 326 00:21:56,871 --> 00:21:59,003 Boyan and his team spent years 327 00:21:59,038 --> 00:22:01,373 mapping the Great Pacific Garbage Patch to understand 328 00:22:01,407 --> 00:22:02,907 how to go about cleaning it up. 329 00:22:02,942 --> 00:22:05,942 So talk me through how the Ocean Cleanup works. 330 00:22:05,979 --> 00:22:08,512 So really the problem is that although there is a lot of plastic, 331 00:22:08,548 --> 00:22:10,515 it's spread out over a very large area, 332 00:22:10,549 --> 00:22:13,584 so you first need to concentrate it before you get it out. 333 00:22:13,619 --> 00:22:15,519 So, what we propose is to deploy 334 00:22:15,555 --> 00:22:18,490 sort of an artificial coastline, where there is no coastline, 335 00:22:18,525 --> 00:22:21,692 So we have this very long array of floating barriers 336 00:22:21,728 --> 00:22:23,728 that is anchored to the sea bed. 337 00:22:23,762 --> 00:22:25,730 The ocean current does the hard work for us, 338 00:22:25,765 --> 00:22:27,330 brings the plastic towards it, 339 00:22:27,365 --> 00:22:28,900 and concentrates in the center. 340 00:22:28,934 --> 00:22:32,403 And once it's in the center, it's so dense you can hardly see the water, 341 00:22:32,438 --> 00:22:34,905 and that's the spot where we can then easily take it out, 342 00:22:34,941 --> 00:22:37,707 and store it before shipping it to land for recycling. 343 00:22:37,742 --> 00:22:41,577 Over 95 percent of the mass is still in those big objects, 344 00:22:41,613 --> 00:22:43,113 which is so urgent to clean up, 345 00:22:43,148 --> 00:22:46,049 because all that big stuff will become micro-plastics 346 00:22:46,085 --> 00:22:48,152 over the next few decades, which is the problem. 347 00:22:48,186 --> 00:22:52,388 Why has no one else attempted to clean up on the scale that you're proposing? 348 00:22:52,424 --> 00:22:57,894 People assume that a complex problem requires a complex solution, 349 00:22:57,930 --> 00:23:01,263 but I think the simpler a solution can be, the better. 350 00:23:01,298 --> 00:23:03,700 When I started this, I didn't know whether it would work, 351 00:23:03,734 --> 00:23:07,269 but I thought, considering the scale of the problem, 352 00:23:07,305 --> 00:23:09,605 that it was just important to at least try. 353 00:23:10,674 --> 00:23:12,840 After months spent perfecting the design, 354 00:23:12,876 --> 00:23:15,545 Boyan's invention is ready for the ultimate test. 355 00:23:16,681 --> 00:23:19,682 To find out whether it can survive in the ocean. 356 00:23:21,952 --> 00:23:25,621 Welcome to the Ocean Cleanup's prototype unveiling. 357 00:23:32,663 --> 00:23:36,699 Boyan and his team have got their first prototype in the sea going out today. 358 00:23:36,733 --> 00:23:39,134 So, we're gonna go and see the progress in getting it out. 359 00:23:39,169 --> 00:23:41,135 And there's going to be tests for all weather sorts, 360 00:23:41,171 --> 00:23:43,270 which is the perfect place to do it here on the North Sea. 361 00:23:43,307 --> 00:23:44,806 It gets pretty stormy out here. 362 00:23:52,281 --> 00:23:54,682 The conditions in the North Sea are pretty severe. 363 00:23:54,718 --> 00:23:57,352 Now, with the first minor storm, we'll get forces higher 364 00:23:57,386 --> 00:23:59,753 than during a hundred-year storm in the Pacific Ocean. 365 00:23:59,788 --> 00:24:04,458 It's pretty safe to say that if it survives here, it will survive anywhere. 366 00:24:04,493 --> 00:24:08,362 But to scale the array to be scooping up the Pacific Garbage Patch, 367 00:24:08,396 --> 00:24:09,931 Boyan has a way to go. 368 00:24:09,965 --> 00:24:11,464 What we're seeing here is just one segment, 369 00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:14,902 and eventually, the thing will be about a thousand times larger than this. 370 00:24:14,938 --> 00:24:16,970 - Wow. - And then somewhere in the center 371 00:24:17,006 --> 00:24:19,006 of the giant V-shaped array, 372 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,442 we would have these conveyor belts and pumps to extract the plastic. 373 00:24:22,478 --> 00:24:26,078 I mean, 100 kilometers, it's very large for a manmade structure, 374 00:24:26,115 --> 00:24:28,848 but it's peanuts compared to the size of the Pacific Ocean. 375 00:24:35,857 --> 00:24:37,523 Assuming everything does go to plan, 376 00:24:37,558 --> 00:24:38,724 what's the next step? 377 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,327 We should be ready to deploy the first full operational system 378 00:24:42,364 --> 00:24:44,064 uh, by late 2017. 379 00:24:44,098 --> 00:24:46,499 So that will be the first time we're actually removing plastic 380 00:24:46,535 --> 00:24:47,701 from the ocean at a large scale. 381 00:24:47,736 --> 00:24:49,000 And then, if that goes well, 382 00:24:49,037 --> 00:24:52,738 we should be ready to start the largest cleanup in history by 2020. 383 00:24:52,773 --> 00:24:56,075 So, this is just the beginning, it's not the end. 384 00:24:56,109 --> 00:24:58,278 While Boyan works towards hitting 385 00:24:58,313 --> 00:25:00,078 the next milestone of his experiment, 386 00:25:00,114 --> 00:25:02,048 he's simultaneously planning what to do 387 00:25:02,083 --> 00:25:04,450 with the degraded plastic he's able to collect 388 00:25:04,486 --> 00:25:05,616 and how to make it valuable again. 389 00:25:05,653 --> 00:25:08,420 This is one of the companies we're working with 390 00:25:08,454 --> 00:25:11,256 to actually produce the recycling product, because eventually, 391 00:25:11,291 --> 00:25:16,061 this is sort of how we want to finance the whole Ocean Cleanup. 392 00:25:16,096 --> 00:25:19,030 This is a machine, where we put in the flakes... Mm-hmm. 393 00:25:19,067 --> 00:25:21,633 ...so the ground-up ocean plastic objects. 394 00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:25,036 So to get the-- the highest quality of, uh, of plastic 395 00:25:25,071 --> 00:25:27,905 we really want to sort it first before recycling it. 396 00:25:32,712 --> 00:25:37,215 Then it should exit here as... Ooh! It's coming out like spaghetti. 397 00:25:37,250 --> 00:25:38,883 It's like a pasta machine. 398 00:25:38,919 --> 00:25:40,518 It is exactly as a pasta machine. 399 00:25:42,154 --> 00:25:44,756 The process involves chopping up the plastic 400 00:25:44,790 --> 00:25:47,224 into tiny beads, known as nurdles. 401 00:25:47,259 --> 00:25:52,296 These are then sold and melted down into the objects we use in everyday life. 402 00:25:52,332 --> 00:25:54,498 So then it's just shredding it up in nuggets? 403 00:25:54,534 --> 00:25:58,435 Yeah, so this is sort of the whole currency of the plastic industry. 404 00:25:58,471 --> 00:26:01,939 So, car companies buy these nurdles to make their products, 405 00:26:01,973 --> 00:26:04,442 and furniture companies use them as well. 406 00:26:04,477 --> 00:26:07,612 So, it's sort of giving ocean plastic a second life. 407 00:26:07,646 --> 00:26:09,579 This is pretty cool to know that 408 00:26:09,615 --> 00:26:12,281 this plastic has been around for the last few decades, 409 00:26:12,317 --> 00:26:14,017 and could have come from anywhere in the world. 410 00:26:14,053 --> 00:26:15,952 Oh, yeah, and this could have well been 411 00:26:15,988 --> 00:26:20,522 some of the first plastic that was ever produced at scale in the '50s and the '60s. 412 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,729 While Boyan is recycling ocean plastics into more permanent uses, 413 00:26:25,765 --> 00:26:29,566 the vast majority of the world's plastics are never recycled at all. 414 00:26:29,601 --> 00:26:34,936 In fact, even the most commonly used are only recycled 14% of the time. 415 00:26:34,972 --> 00:26:37,307 But at IBM, Dr. Jeannette Garcia 416 00:26:37,342 --> 00:26:40,309 is developing a process called "chemical recycling" 417 00:26:40,345 --> 00:26:43,779 that could change how we think about plastics altogether. 418 00:26:43,815 --> 00:26:46,949 How do you see plastic? Is it a big problem or a great invention? 419 00:26:46,984 --> 00:26:49,218 I think of plastic as being a great invention, 420 00:26:49,253 --> 00:26:51,653 because it permeates our entire life. 421 00:26:51,689 --> 00:26:55,057 Plastic is ubiquitous, in everything from shoes, 422 00:26:55,093 --> 00:26:58,693 pills, to healthcare, to disposable syringes, 423 00:26:58,729 --> 00:27:01,863 and so to try to do away with it completely, 424 00:27:01,898 --> 00:27:04,700 is probably not a viable option. 425 00:27:04,734 --> 00:27:07,568 Tell us about chemical recycling and why you think that's the answer. 426 00:27:07,605 --> 00:27:10,105 The main difference is that in mechanical recycling, 427 00:27:10,140 --> 00:27:13,174 what you're doing is you're taking the material 428 00:27:13,210 --> 00:27:16,044 and you have to shred it down, then melt it down, remold it, 429 00:27:16,078 --> 00:27:19,847 and it can only happen a certain number of times before it loses the properties. 430 00:27:19,883 --> 00:27:22,416 Chemical recycling is different, because what you actually do 431 00:27:22,451 --> 00:27:25,119 is you take the material, and you chemically react it 432 00:27:25,154 --> 00:27:28,423 so it goes back down to its most fundamental unit. 433 00:27:28,458 --> 00:27:31,125 That fundamental unit can then be reacted again 434 00:27:31,161 --> 00:27:33,594 back into the same thing or into something different, 435 00:27:33,630 --> 00:27:37,498 and we can reach a 100 percent, like, full cycle process. 436 00:27:37,534 --> 00:27:39,534 If we can scale this process up, 437 00:27:39,568 --> 00:27:43,037 we could take the hundreds of millions of tons of discarded plastics 438 00:27:43,072 --> 00:27:47,273 recycle them, and move towards a zero waste economy. 439 00:27:47,309 --> 00:27:50,109 People are gonna start realizing that we can save money, 440 00:27:50,145 --> 00:27:52,578 and a lot of money by recycling materials, 441 00:27:52,614 --> 00:27:55,348 and so that it makes sense from all standpoints. 442 00:27:55,384 --> 00:27:59,552 We have to start thinking of our landfills as gold mines. 443 00:28:01,190 --> 00:28:04,124 With the right approach, and the will to make it happen, 444 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,393 all this trash would become valuable again, 445 00:28:06,428 --> 00:28:09,363 and solving this mammoth environmental task 446 00:28:09,397 --> 00:28:11,897 could create an economic miracle. 447 00:28:11,932 --> 00:28:15,067 Economically, if we had to pay for all that plastic, 448 00:28:15,103 --> 00:28:16,803 which we could do something better with, 449 00:28:16,838 --> 00:28:19,905 between $80 and $120 billion a year 450 00:28:19,941 --> 00:28:23,709 that you can make valuable with straight away, effectively we're dumping, 451 00:28:23,744 --> 00:28:26,511 but like anything in life, if there's a problem, 452 00:28:26,547 --> 00:28:28,146 then there's gonna be opportunity. 453 00:28:28,182 --> 00:28:30,115 We know through history in terms of 454 00:28:30,151 --> 00:28:32,417 disruptions in industries or new products 455 00:28:32,452 --> 00:28:36,855 that it's kind of innovators and disruptors who kind of take us to the next level. 456 00:28:36,892 --> 00:28:39,491 The fact that we now are creating a path 457 00:28:39,527 --> 00:28:42,461 in which there is a chance that we can have clean oceans again, 458 00:28:42,497 --> 00:28:44,630 that could potentially inspire 459 00:28:44,664 --> 00:28:46,464 a lot more people to get involved with this problem. 460 00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:49,535 Human history is a long list of things 461 00:28:49,569 --> 00:28:51,503 that couldn't be done and then were done. 462 00:28:51,538 --> 00:28:53,305 Really, the challenge in this century 463 00:28:53,339 --> 00:28:55,973 is to convert a lifestyle created in a previous century 464 00:28:56,009 --> 00:28:59,009 into one that will still be around in the next century. 465 00:29:00,355 --> 00:29:10,748 Sync & corrections by honeybunny www.addic7ed.com 41041

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