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You know, when you have to play one of
these roles, whether it's like playing a
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pianist or playing a sort of weapons
expert, it's like, oh, you're the best
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person in the world at whatever this is.
It's like, oh, great, cool.
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And I have how many weeks to do this?
Right, cool. Yeah.
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I think I was just sort
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of miscreant at school, and I remember
being put in...
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school play almost as a punishment for
how distracting I'd been in class and
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that just led to a lifetime of
misbehavior
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So
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I was sent this script You know pretty
soon after moving to the States really
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and I decided that I was gonna come over
here and see what variety I could find.
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And it was so unlike anything I'd ever
read, certainly unlike anything that
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made in the UK.
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And I had recently seen Your Next, so I
knew just how batshit crazy
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Adam Wingard must be. And I thought, I
have to meet this man and convince him
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that I'm the person he needs.
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We met up, I came out to LA and I was
living in New York at the time and I
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out to meet him and we just hit it off.
And I think...
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The sense of humour that I could see
coming through the screenplay and the
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of humour I felt from Your Next and
obviously his collaboration with Simon
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Barrett, there was a wicked, wicked
sense of humour there. He found the idea
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putting the guy from Downton Abbey in
his movie very, very funny, as did I.
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It was not something anyone was
expecting to see and it was certainly
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something I was expecting to do, but I
was thrilled to get the chance.
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The script was totally different to
anything I'd ever read. And I just
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laughing my ass off the whole way
through it. And I spoke to one of my
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had found it just unrelentingly grisly
and nasty.
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And I was like, didn't you find it funny
at all?
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They're like, you found it funny? I'm
like, yeah, it's hilarious.
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Yeah, that's fine.
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You want the elite?
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Well, I'll take them all.
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All the handguns? No, everything.
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All your guns.
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You know, shooting in that quarry that
day where, you know, Ethan Embry's
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to sell me the weapons, and, you know, I
just remember that being an intensely
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hot day and, you know, trying to keep my
cool, literally, and, you
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know, and remember my...
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weapons training, all that kind of
stuff.
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I think it was that scene where I had to
strip the gun and take it apart and put
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it back together. Again, that was a
whole new thing for me, which I had
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practiced and was really trying to get
right while it was like a thousand
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degrees.
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That's what I was thinking.
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Look, man, if you brought money for all
of them, I'll cut you a deal. You can
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take them all off my hands. No, I'm
going to kill you.
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This is definitely not... the kind of
film that really gets made in the UK
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often. And the tone of it and the style
and the kind of role, it seemed so kind
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of quintessentially American. It was
really feeding off all those sort of,
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know... B action movies, you know, that
they used to make in the 70s and 80s.
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And, you know, there's something
quintessentially American about that. We
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very interested in the idea of charm as
a weapon.
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And, you know, there's obviously British
charm and then there's Southern
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American charm, which are, there are
some overlaps, I would say, you know, in
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their passive aggression, perhaps. And
so, yeah, just playing with that in some
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of the scenes was really, really fun.
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David and the guest is... supposedly
from Kentucky.
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He's gone through the military.
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You know, there were a lot of things
that we were processing through the role
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that were very out of my experience. But
it was great. You know, for an actor,
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it's a dream just to dive into a totally
different world and learn about stuff
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like that.
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That's me.
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David is a charming young man who has
been part of this military program.
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It's very deliberately undefined as to
exactly what he's endured, what he's
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through. He's been in the same platoon
as this young man, Caleb, who's been
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killed in action, and he goes to visit
their family.
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Very nice to meet you.
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Caleb told me a lot about you.
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David just got discharged this week. He
was a friend of your brother's.
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You know Caleb?
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Yes, ma 'am. Very often the secret with
playing bad guys is that they don't
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think that they're particularly bad.
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And I think certainly in the
beginning...
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David's programming is such that he
feels that he's doing the family the
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ultimate service by solving problems of,
I don't know, ex -boyfriends or
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miserable bosses or bullies at school.
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And he goes through and almost one by
one ticks off these families' problems
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an absurdly extreme way.
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And so I think that's part of the fun of
the role is feeling like he's... you
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know, a very twisted knight in shining
armour.
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But then when the military element comes
in and he begins to be sort of hunted
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down, then the second part of his
programming, I suppose, kicks in where
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designed to self -preserve and protect
the programme and things go haywire.
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What about him?
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Everybody's best friend.
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I called the military base that he said
he was from, and they told me he was
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dead.
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This is military intelligence for you.
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Right.
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Ask the CSID.
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He's not David Collins, okay? We don't
know who he is.
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Mike is fantastic in that role. I mean,
it's really survival girl role taken to
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the extreme. She's so badass in it. And
I think she matches David, you know,
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step for step. And there's a fantastic
showdown between the two of them. And
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it's unusual in that it's sort of not a
particularly sexual relationship at any
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point. There's sort of odd moments where
it sort of flirts with that idea, but
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it never really goes there.
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was quite refreshing. It's a fun dynamic
that, you know, and just watching her
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navigate his weirdness is a joy.
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What are you doing here?
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I told your mom I could pick you up from
school today.
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Is that cool?
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Yeah.
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You'd have to ask Brendan if he looks up
to me in real life. Probably doesn't
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anymore.
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But he was very, very sweet.
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It's a great trope that, you know, in
those movies, the sort of the innocent
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who just, you know, who thinks that this
guy is, you know, the sun shines out of
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his ass and, you know, he can do no
wrong when David is clearly doing a lot
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wrong. And it just kind of, that hero
worship just gets increasingly absurd as
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the movie goes on.
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Oh, man.
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Your parents' knives suck.
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Yeah.
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That's a very sweet dynamic, and also
the brother -sister thing that he has
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going on with Micah's character is very
sweet.
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Adam and Simon were very keen to play
with a lot of the expectations of a role
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like that, but no, he was great.
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Please stay.
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It's nice having you here, and I would
love to hear more about you and Caleb.
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Yeah, Sheila Kelly is wild. And, you
know, she has this amazing kind of
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stare, you know, which is just so
perfect for that role of the sort of the
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unseeing mom, I suppose, who doesn't
quite know, you know, enough about what
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kids are really up to and, you know,
wants to see the good in everyone. And
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has this amazing positivity and light
about her, which was so great for that
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role.
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I didn't know that they'd almost run out
of bullets, but it doesn't surprise me
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because it was absolute mayhem that day.
And also, I remember they got an
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incredible stunt driver to do that scene
where they back out of the garage, and
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I think they only had one garage door,
so they had to get it right on this one
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take, and this guy just ripped through.
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It was amazing to watch. There were some
really spectacular...
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scenes to watch um you know like the the
scene where he rolls the grenades into
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the cafe and walks out into the street
we
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filmed
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in a tiny town in in new mexico um i
think it was called edgewater but i
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be somewhere near there in New Mexico,
one of those small towns which is
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essentially a sort of a truck stop with
a high school that happens to exist in
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the middle of nowhere. And they hadn't
really told any of the town that we were
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going to be blowing the windows out.
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And so there were people just like
driving past with these windows and this
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just shot across the street and very,
very nearly took out just an innocent
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driving by. So there was some insane
stuff going on.
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In terms of the gun stuff, I mean, I
hadn't handled a lot of weapons like
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before. And so I was, for the movie, a
fully paid up member of the LAX
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firing range and was going there and
learning how to handle handguns and all
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sorts of military grade weapons. And
yeah, I had some excellent teachers,
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Clayton Barber, who was our stunt
coordinator.
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who put me through my paces just
physically, but also, you know, with all
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gun training.
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And, you know, he knew exactly what it
needed to look like. And, you know, I
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determined to get there. So, yeah, there
was some great stuff. But the scene
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with the, you know, the laundry, you
know, fire, and that was one of the
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scenes to shoot, I think.
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There's certain scenes you shoot
sometimes where you kind of know that
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going to be in slow -mo and the sort of
actor's mistake is often to kind of do
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the slow -mo yourself, you know, and
you're kind of like, and so there was a,
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you know, I had to kind of resist that
and just, you know, but it was more
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just with Clayton just like technically
getting all the gun stuff looking right
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and as soon as that, you know, all...
clicked into place then you know they
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took care of the rest but um yeah it was
very very funny just watching them you
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know spatter all the the uh the laundry
with blood and that kind of stuff and um
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and also just i remember having to
coordinate dropping the laundry basket
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whipping the gun out and doing that
which is a lot harder than it looks i'll
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tell you you killed dad's boss too right
i don't care i'm not going to say
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anything why not
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Because we're friends.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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Do I not blink much? I know there was
that one particular scene where he sort
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of, I don't know if he's like uploading
or whatever, he sort of, you know, he
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goes very much into kind of a robotic
trance -like state and Adam wanted to do
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this tracking shot through the window
and...
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And I feel like we had to do that a few
times because he was like, I don't want
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you to blink. I don't want you to blink.
I was like, okay, fine.
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He is just about to stream down my face.
It was like, no, we don't want him
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crying. We want him staring, looking
scary. I was like, fine, no crying.
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fine. You know, and doing that over and
over again. So, yeah, listen, what Adam
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wants, Adam gets.
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Luke, come on. I mean.
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I'm sorry.
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No, no, I am sorry.
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I thought Wick was in there.
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Up to that point, it was definitely the
most rigorous physical transformation
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and regime I'd ever been through.
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And Clayton Barber, our stunt
coordinator and trainer, who was a kind
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taekwondo champion back in the day, you
know, he...
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really um you know put me through my
paces physically mentally and uh you
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he'd seen this kind of transformation
before and i hadn't i had no idea what
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going on and so we started off in la and
i was training at a facility down near
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lax and then we went to new mexico and
we basically borrowed it was in the
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summer holidays and we borrowed uh this
high school gym
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And it was essentially this, I mean,
that in itself would make a great movie
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just this sort of this English actor
sweating in the New Mexico heat in this
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sort of, you know, very retro high
school gym with, you know, lots of sort
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motivational quotes all around the wall,
you know, running around a track on my
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own.
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And, you know, it's like, come on, you
know, you want to be the best? Come on!
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It was an amazing, amazing experience.
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Yeah, behind that shower door, you know,
he was there just like, you know,
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Robert, give me 30, you know, and it was
like, action, come out, you know, just
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like looking as hench as I could.
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You know, Adam is so...
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steeped in cinema of all kinds,
especially the kind of weird and
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-horror and B -action movies that many
of us grew up with. And he really
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understands the vocabulary of a shot.
And it was one of the first times I've
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worked with a director where you just, I
don't know how else to describe it, you
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know you're in a great frame.
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And so rather than feeling like it's all
on you to kind of come up with the
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magic of the scene, actually a lot of it
you can tell is, you know, between him
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and Robbie, the DP, you know, just...
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you know these beautiful kind of western
style shots sometimes and you know
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really borrowing from from great cinemas
and so yeah he was just meticulous in
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knowing the style that he that he wanted
and and uh yeah i just remember being
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you know so uh enamored really with that
with that way of working and a lot of
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people coming in you know for days here
and there they you know they weren't
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necessarily sure what they were stepping
into and it was it was sort of on me to
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reassure them it's like no no he's got
this he knows he knows what he wants and
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yeah I know it seems weird but you know
just go with it and so there's a lot of
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confusion for some of those day players
but I think it worked out
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they
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constructed a Halloween maze in this
high school as I said we had the run
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of this high school for the summer which
was weird in itself, you know, shooting
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in those empty corridors and things like
that. And I hadn't spent a lot of time
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in American high schools anyway. So that
was kind of a new experience for me.
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And yeah, you know, using the sort of
desolate landscape of rural New Mexico,
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which is something, you know, it's
really wild out there. And, you know, I
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staying in a place in the middle of
nowhere and just watching these
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storms over the mountains at night. And
it was, you know, the whole...
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atmosphere of the shoot was was pretty
strange you know and the drive to work
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each day you know just going on this
interstate you know which is bare
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and and i'd never seen anything like
that you know coming from from england
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and you know visiting mostly you know
coastal American cities, and this was,
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know, really kind of deepened my
understanding of Middle America.
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And, you know, Simon Barrett is from
Missouri, Adams from Alabama, and a lot
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that, you know, what they experienced
and endured as, you know, adolescents in
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those parts of the country, I think
really feed into the script.
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Can't help but notice those ladies over
there are drinking cheap beer. That
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seems like a shame to me. I'd like to
buy each one of them a blowjob shot.
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Are you serious?
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It was just a real sense of humor, I
think, on set with just the madness of
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we were doing, really. And as the story
goes along, just how it kind of ratchets
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up. And I think one of the joys of
shooting it for me and I think for
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was just how steeped it was in a love of
this kind of...
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film and this kind of cinema so yeah
it's borrowing on a lot of tropes of
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kind of films but it's not a it's not a
reboot it's not a remake as such it but
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it's definitely it's definitely a very
affectionate homage to that that style i
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don't remember the premiere at all i was
terrified it was at sundance it was
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midnight madness and uh i had not been
shown the film i think they'd only
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finished it a few hours before you know
and they'd sent the print and uh
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I was, yeah, I was really excited, but,
you know, terrified because I'd never
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done anything like this before. I'd
never seen anything like this before.
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And I was aware of Midnight Madness at
Sundance and just like, what a big deal
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that is for this kind of film. It was
just the perfect.
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home and the perfect place to launch it.
And it got a wild reception. It was
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great, you know, and to hear the
laughter and that kind of thing. But it
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bit of a blur.
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I was a bundle of nerves, for sure. One
of the things I do remember was taking
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the film to London.
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And I was allowed a special screening
where I could invite friends and family
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who hadn't seen me for a couple of
years. I'd moved to the States. I'd gone
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and done a couple of different things.
And everyone was a bit confused as to
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I'd left.
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And this really felt like part of my
explanation, which came as a massive...
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shock and surprise to even my closest
friends they were just like what is this
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you know and um especially for an
english audience there was it was very
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different to the midnight madness
reaction you know midnight madness are
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and ready and they're thirsty for this
kind of film and the english crowd were
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just in in sort of shock and awe of like
what i had been up to um which was
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great
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It's one of those films that over the
years has really kind of found its
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audience.
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And you never expect these things to
blow up at the time, and if they do,
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great. But it definitely over the years
has found its crowd, and that's a pretty
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wonderful thing. I'm thrilled I did it,
and it's led to a long, long friendship
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with Adam and Simon, which is wonderful,
and hopefully more films from us in the
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future.
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