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I'd done a horror film called All the
Boys Love Mandy Lane with friends from
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AFI and Adam, he and I had been on a
couple of panels together for
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micro budget horror films because You
know, Mandy Lane was under 200 ,000. He
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was on sort of the festival circuit for
Popskull.
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And we became friends and then, you
know, just hit it off.
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And then one day he asked me, you know,
he said, doing this movie called You're
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Next, would you be interested?
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I said yes, and here we are.
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Adam just has this really easygoing way
about him and this very calm demeanor
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that just allows him to get these great
performances out of actors.
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And he just puts in the time and the
planning in that he can be so specific
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about what he wants and needs to tell
the story that he can chisel away all
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other stuff and that allows us to be
really ambitious for those, you know,
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really focus our money.
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for a production designer that's great
because you know what to concentrate it
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on and that what you're concentrating on
is going to make the movie and will
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make the movie better you want
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to try sure
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the um i mean the first time the guest
came
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up is Adam told me he and Simon were
thinking about this
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Halloween movie, but they'd just seen
Terminator.
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And they wanted to somehow combine the
two, but they had no idea how to do it.
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But they were thinking about it.
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Really, it's when you've got it, you've
broken it down, and then
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Adam and I will generally...
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go out to lunch and we'll just start
talking about whatever really inspired
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about that script. And honestly, in the
case of the guest, it was color.
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Like we really started talking about
Halloween.
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What are the colors of Halloween?
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What makes it so special? And what can
we kind of take from that as a base and
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then keep adding to it? And can we make
this horror film that's really
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wonderfully colorful?
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we knew at that point it was going to be
shot in new mexico we're talking about
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embracing kind of the new mexico of it
all the the colors the light the
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big skies and then we were getting you
know really excited about what could we
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do in camera as far as the shootouts and
how big could we make them if we were
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really really careful with it and that's
when you know you start thinking about
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things in a practical sense and figuring
out how to make it happen and that's
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just when it all started coming together
well there's a lot more logistics
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involved because you're moving places
constantly you have multiple crews
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up striking taking things down getting
you place to place but you're just
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to find all those little pieces that
build that very, in this case, odd world
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and just building out that world as a
single sort of cohesive entity.
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I don't blame you.
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The vibe really was that so before we
even did our first location scout, Adam
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already had like a mix put together and
was already composing music.
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So is he and I driving around New Mexico
scouting. He's like playing this mix
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constantly, which really Adam does a
lot. It's how he works.
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And so very much you're in the vibe
early on, and then the thing is it
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right? All of a sudden the location
manager who's there is hearing it, and
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the location assistant.
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And then it's playing in the background
as you're interviewing people because
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Adam's blaring it in his office that's
next door to you.
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Everybody gets the vibe of a Wingard
film.
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We set it ahead of time and part of that
is all those things came from such a
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wide variety of places that they had to
be gotten.
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way in advance to be able to put that
room together.
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But I do, I love that room. It's one of
the favorite sets I've ever done, even
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though it's such a small, small thing.
But something about the colors and the
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lighting and the detail, you know, like
the butterfly lampshades and the odd
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hand -hammered, you know, metal end
tables from India.
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And a comic artist friend of mine, Megan
Hutchison, did all of the original art
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and etchings for that room.
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We had a lot of antique Japanese paper
masks in there, just tons of fun
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You know, you have it all set up and
Maike came in and we kind of ran through
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all and she moved stuff around, you
know, took some stuff off the shelf, put
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in her purse, like...
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put things in her pockets and even if it
never made the movie it it all helps it
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all helps with the character so that
that room was a blast
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Terminator
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and Halloween are way up there also Lady
from Shanghai in terms of figuring out
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you know reflections are really
difficult to do well like to get that
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-layered part of the maze.
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So we really studied Lady from Shanghai.
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And then we also spent some time looking
at In the Mood for Love for colors,
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patterns, that kind of thing.
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And so those, I know it's a bit of an
odd group of references, but it all sort
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of slams together in the end. You know
that weird scarecrow from it that Adam
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and I built that on a Sunday weekend
just for fun for the shootout you're
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oh man if we could make it with wooden
arms I bet special effects could just
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explosives on it just blow it to hell at
the end of the shootout sequence it's
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what happened you know the big point
obviously is color and lighting and both
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Susan and Robbie are great and what it
would do is we because Practical lights
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are so important to Robbie.
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I mean, he was a fantastic gaffer in
addition to being a great
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So we'd lay out all the practical
lights, the paint chips of all the
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then we'd worry about how do you make
those practical lights as good and
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as possible.
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And that's where lots of the
collaboration really came from.
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And then also figuring out What do you
do with the window treatments? Because
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the light is so bright in New Mexico.
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So you're sort of constantly trying to
cut stuff down. And Susan is really
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about understanding the shooting needs
and just what has to happen to get a
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great image.
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Silks were handmade to go inside
lampshades to like take the lamps down.
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lot's going into those, you know, little
tiny rooms.
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I think we shot for four weeks.
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pretty fast considering it's a film with
car crashes and the big shootouts and
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frankly doing that on practical
locations is pretty complicated from my
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things so it's like for instance the
front of the house for the shootout like
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the whole front of that house is coated
in steel and then a whole fake front of
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the house is built on top of the steel
that's fitted with charges so that's how
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we're able to blow the hell out of a
real location that's a family's house is
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you have that thick steel that protects
the house the charges go off and just
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blow the hell out of the front of the
house so all of that it's all real
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similarly you're taking out their real
windows you're putting in breakaways
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building a fake front of the diner so
that can be blown up so Again, tons of
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fun. It's made out of balsa wood. It's a
very soft breakaway wood.
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And then it's covered with plaster.
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And so that's what's blowing out. And
then similarly, when you're inside the
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house, there's both shootouts in
practical rooms and a stage set.
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But so when David first jumps through
the window, he's jumping into a
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room. So the whole back wall of the
room, again, is covered with steel.
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And then the closet doors or breakaway
doors that are set with charges, but the
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back wall is also covered with steel
with fake drywall over the top. So all
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that's blowing out for real in camera.
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But then when the machine gun opens up
and David's leaping into the hallway and
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crawling along, that's... That's all a
set, and you can tell from the slightly
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stylized choice where instead of the
wall blowing out and there being black,
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it's light behind every bullet hole, so
you can see it really well.
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But that's fun. That's part of the world
of the guest.
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You know, I should say one of the things
that's really going part of the way all
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of that looks so incredible is the
construction coordinator, Bill Holmquist
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his team. All you really need to know is
Bill did There Will Be Blood.
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He built...
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all that in -camera oil Derek blowing up
and blowing apart, and here he is
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coming out to do this little tiny movie.
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But man, he's great at what he does.
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What are you doing?
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I'm going to a bar.
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That time of year we were shooting, the
weather was really rough, so we had to
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shut down for a lot of lightning storms.
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And crazily enough, we had huge dust
storms that blew down parts of sets.
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That was trying.
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And one of the strangest oddities is
just that
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we had to have pumpkins for a Halloween
movie.
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pumpkins are not available out of season
there you plant them one at the last
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frost and they're barely ready for
halloween and we couldn't do it with
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pumpkins so we literally called every
agricultural university in the southern
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u .s and paid people to walk greenhouses
anyone who had a pumpkin research
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project going on searching for pumpkins
for us. And we ended up getting like
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eight pumpkins sent to us.
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And that's why those pumpkins are so
precious in the carving scene.
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The two pumpkins in the background,
those are like carved foam.
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But you know, David's really ripping
through those things with his butterfly
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knife. So when we ran out of pumpkins,
we ran out of pumpkins.
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The car wreck was actually really hard
to do in camera, and part of it was that
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even though the road looks dry, there
had been these crazy flash floods.
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And so the road was absolutely slick and
muddy, and we'd use torches to just,
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like, dry out the top of it for camera.
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But the cars were speeding toward each
other, hit the mud, slid, and, like,
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scraped down the sides.
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And they were the only two.
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cars we had, and so body work, repaint,
start from scratch
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on a whole new, that was a little
trying, but you know, you get through it
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in the end the car crash is great.
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We really scaled down the number of days
we got to shoot to really,
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really focus, and there was just,
everything you're seeing, there aren't
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on the cutting room floor.
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like everything you're seeing is what
was shot and what made the movie so it
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to be razor sharp basically to free up
the money to do everything in camera
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was that was the goal something just
hits with this one and audiences love it
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it's all the other movies you know
they're great it's so much fun seeing
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with an audience but something about
this one
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The humor just lands, the action just
lands, the scares just land.
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It's the best live film experience I've
ever been a part of.
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