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Help!
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This episode is unique
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in the sense that
it's going from the very beginning.
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There's a little bit more engine
behind it, a lot happens.
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I remember reading episode 6,
even in outline form,
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and I was like,
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"I don't know what poor sucker of
a director's gonna direct that one."
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Wow.
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Because there's like,
five different action sequences.
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But what's even more exceptional
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is it also has
truly great character scenes.
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Something's coming.
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Now, at last, it is time.
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We open episode 6
with Nancy's smoking shotgun
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and the disturbance of that sphere
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sets up shockwaves
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that impact every reach
of the Upside Down.
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-Maybe we should…
-Yeah.
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The gate!
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I can clear a path!
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No!
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We're going to be pushed
into the rift behind us,
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which means, we're screwed.
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So, I kind of create a force field
around Kali, Hopper, and I.
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They've trained for years. We see
this at the beginning of the season,
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that she's finally able to put this
training to use in the real world.
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Go!
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I loved it, actually,
I thought it was so much fun.
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In three, two, one, overhead,
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and wham!
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It feels like you're just making
a blockbuster movie.
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It's just epic.
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Cut!
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Goal!
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That was so fun!
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Working with Shawn is so fun.
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We have more of like
a father-daughter relationship,
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and I truly will miss
the energy that he brings to set.
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And the relationship just
meant a lot to me growing up
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and it still does now.
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When the sphere is disturbed,
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Jonathan and Nancy
see the melted building,
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this grey-like sludge,
rising and rising.
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Holy shit!
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And they assume,
understandably, that that's the end.
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And they end up having a scene
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filled with a level of honesty
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that is an all-timer
of a Jonathan/Nancy scene.
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I tried to convince myself
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that this would
somehow fix everything.
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But it was just
gonna make things worse.
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It was the last scene
that we shoot together
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as Jonathan and Nancy,
as the two characters.
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We wanted to make sure
that we were so familiar with it
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that we didn't have to think about it,
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because there's so much truth
going on in this scene,
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so we, like, mechanically
just kind of went through the scene,
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like literally beat-by-beat
for a good month.
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I love you, Nancy Wheeler.
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I love you, Jonathan Byers.
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And then that was just about
me and Natalia just
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kind of focusing on each other
and trying to block everything out
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and just try and be as honest
as we could be with the scene
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and the emotion of it.
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Our characters have always been
kind of, you know, paired together
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and I think having last season
where they weren't together,
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coming back and having
a scene like that
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was really nice for our characters.
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One of the most difficult concepts
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we had to figure out
how to make physical
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was the Hawkins lab
melting from the top-down.
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We never sculpted anything
quite like that,
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quite at that scale,
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and we knew we wanted it
to feel like organic melting
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but also supernatural.
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It's a lot of goo.
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We had 3,000-gallon tanks of goo.
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We had about 1,500 feet of piping
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going around the set
just to deliver it, you know, on cue.
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Physically, I had no idea
what we were going into.
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They were like, "Yeah, melting."
And it's like, "Okay."
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There's 30 of these
all the way around the set.
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And these, once you pull them open,
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they fill these troughs here,
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and this trough has
a little slit in the front.
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That's where the goo
will just flow down the walls.
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We couldn't keep it running
constantly down the walls.
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That's gonna fill up the set.
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The bottom needs to be
at a certain level so like…
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…one. Action!
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…Levy calls action,
we turn everything on,
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it starts pouring,
they call cut, we turn it off.
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Three, two, one, goo flow.
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Get back.
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It was probably one of
the harder things
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I've had to do on the show
because it's never been done.
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Who's ever been
in a melty goo-room?
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We did many tests within our
department and special effects
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and we worked with like a paint
that would kind of stick longer,
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and then we'd have to flake that off.
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It was a big challenge.
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They would have to come
to the side,
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and we had color bottles of the goo,
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and we would just spray it
onto their hair.
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Get to the table!
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Cut! Big win for special effects!
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Working with Shawn
in that scene was really nice,
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he really guided us through that
and gave us what we needed.
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Honestly, it's some of
my favorite days I've had filming
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even though it was hard
and like we were just soaking wet
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and freezing.
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But I think it's fun
to be physically challenged
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and it kind of just adds
to the energy of that scene.
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That week felt really like
a collaborative community,
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trying to work with
what we were trying to get done.
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I'm so glad that these characters
got that moment,
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that whole week
of shooting was such a joy.
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Steve, what the hell are you doing?
That's never going to work. Stop.
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-You also have the relationship…
-Steve, stop!
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…with Steve and Dustin
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come to a level of honesty
that we haven't seen there as well.
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That is unique and beautiful,
and deeply moving.
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Stop being an asshole!
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That relationship
is an interesting one.
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A lot of the fuel for my character
I think is just like my worry for him
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and how that might come off.
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You're gonna die,
I can't deal with it again.
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You can't die
because I can't deal with it again.
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It's kind of the one part of the
season that I had been anticipating,
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sometimes dreading,
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sometimes looking forward to
over the course of the year.
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And I think it was
really fun to dig into with Joe.
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I can't let it happen again, please.
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Please don't let it happen again.
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Not you.
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I'm sorry.
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No.
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So I think it's been earned over
a long time of like fun banter
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and a season that's been building up
where we're at odds consistently.
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Kind of a needed moment
between the two of them
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where they could actually like
verbally express to each other
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what they wanted
to say for a long time.
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It's cool to let those boundaries
break down and explore that.
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It was really fun. It was cool.
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That was fun to film because
I was in that same place
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where I got saved in Season 1,
in that library basement,
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in that same cocoon.
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Will!
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So it was so nostalgic for me
to step back in there and film there.
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Do you remember this place?
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And, you know,
working with Jamie/Vecna,
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which I hadn't done until this year
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is such a cool experience.
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It just helps me so much,
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it makes my job so easy
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if I can work off someone
who's so amazing
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and makes it so real.
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And I am genuinely terrified of him
when he gets in his character.
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Found you.
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Save your junkie breath.
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The Demo-dogs are coming
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and there's nothing
I can do about it but run.
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And, in this moment,
in Lucas's head,
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this time he's gonna
get her out of there.
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The last time she was unconscious,
he effed up.
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This time he's like,
"I'm going to carry her out of here."
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Ready? And, come on, action!
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C'mon, running.
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Button! Kick!
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Caleb is really strong.
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He had to carry me for
a really long time, run with me.
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Like that's just insane,
and the boom box as well.
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There's just so many moving parts,
but Caleb did such a good job.
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Jesus!
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Honestly, that might be
one of my favorites scenes
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I filmed on the show.
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This way guys, c'mon.
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Even though we're still hidden,
it's a really sweet moment of,
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"I'm with you, you've got me,
that's all I need to know."
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All my work at the hospital
was extremely fun,
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I loved doing
all of that work with Vickie
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and it was just really great.
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It's beautiful,
it's like these two couples,
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but one couple doesn't know that
the other two people are a couple.
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It's fun when you're doing
a big action sequence
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to have it be so brimming
with emotional stakes
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and this unlikely
double date of chaos.
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The set was inside
a practical location in a real building,
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so everything that we did
was all high-pressured air blast.
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Three, two, one, go!
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All the debris
and all that you see coming out
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was all practical effects.
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Two, one, go!
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And, of course,
Karen Wheeler's epic moment.
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My favorite stage direction
ever in a script:
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Karen. Dot. Fucking. Dot. Wheeler.
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"The room is on fire
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and the dogs are scattered about
in charred pieces."
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"Dead. Very, very dead."
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"Then, out of the curtain
of black smoke, a figure…
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Karen. Fucking. Wheeler."
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I hadn't really acted with
the other cast in this capacity
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where I was part of the action.
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It was just really fun. It was fun.
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Are you ready?
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We're ready out here.
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-Roll cameras.
-Rolling, we're rolling.
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Three, two, one, action.
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To go in there, push the doors open,
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the hero music comes on,
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it's like the ultimate inner-kid in me
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who's pretending and gets to play
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and it's like, "Wow, someone
created this thing for me to play in."
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It was fun to watch the reaction
of the other cast.
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Oh my God, she's the coolest
woman in the whole world.
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That was so great. I mean,
I love her journey this season.
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It's such an awesome
moment for her.
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"Those bitches
couldn't take the heat."
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That's my new line.
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With that scene,
the writing was so good,
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and Nell's performance
was so good,
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and that moment
between them is so special
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because they've obviously had
such an intense journey together.
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So, you see,
Holly Heroic is not just a toy.
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She's you, Holly.
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To kind of pause
at such a climactic point
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and have Max express to Holly
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everything that
she's picked up on about her
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and give her that little pep talk,
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it meant a lot.
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I'll see you on the other side.
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On the other side.17194
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